Re: z/VM 6.1 - IBM Preview Letter..
Mike Walter wrote: snip For that matter, z/VM Version 6.1? What happened to Version 6.0? Doesn't everyone know that odd-numbered versions are considered unlucky? Can't have Version 6 Release 0 ... ya know? ...phsiii
Re: z/VM 6.1 - IBM Preview Letter..
If I remember the story correctly, you won't see a version such as 6.0, because in IBM wisdom, this would imply that there would be following releases (due to the decimal). Now why it's ok to have 6.1, and why that doesn't carry the same implication, I don't know. -- Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation.~. RO-OE-5-55 200 First Street SW/V\ 507-284-0844 Rochester, MN 55905 /( )\ -^^-^^ In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice, theory and practice are different. On 7/8/09 6:50 AM, Phil Smith III li...@akphs.com wrote: Mike Walter wrote: snip For that matter, z/VM Version 6.1? What happened to Version 6.0? Doesn't everyone know that odd-numbered versions are considered unlucky? Can't have Version 6 Release 0 ... ya know? ...phsiii
Re: z/VM 6.1 - IBM Preview Letter..
IBM's use of V6.1 is shorthand for Version 6 Release 1. The first release of each version is necessarily Release 1. What IBM avoids (IIRC) is *Version* 1, as that implies a future version, presumably with substantial upgrades. On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 10:35 AM, RPN01 nix.rob...@mayo.edu wrote: If I remember the story correctly, you won't see a version such as 6.0, because in IBM wisdom, this would imply that there would be following releases (due to the decimal). Now why it's ok to have 6.1, and why that doesn't carry the same implication, I don't know. -- Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation.~. RO-OE-5-55 200 First Street SW/V\ 507-284-0844 Rochester, MN 55905 /( )\ -^^-^^ In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice, theory and practice are different. On 7/8/09 6:50 AM, Phil Smith III li...@akphs.com wrote: Mike Walter wrote: snip For that matter, z/VM Version 6.1? What happened to Version 6.0? Doesn't everyone know that odd-numbered versions are considered unlucky? Can't have Version 6 Release 0 ... ya know? ...phsiii
Re: z/VM 6.1 - IBM Preview Letter..
Ethan Lanz wrote: The first release of each version is necessarily Release 1. To people who learned programming from Rexx. To those of us who use assembler, Forth, C, Java, it would be Release 0 :) -- Jack J. Woehr# I run for public office from time to time. It's like http://www.well.com/~jax # working out at the gym, you sweat a lot, don't get http://www.softwoehr.com # anywhere, and you fall asleep easily afterwards.
Re: z/VM 6.1 - IBM Preview Letter..
Um - z/OS V1 R 1-10 to this point. On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Ethan Lanz llel...@gmail.com wrote: IBM's use of V6.1 is shorthand for Version 6 Release 1. The first release of each version is necessarily Release 1. What IBM avoids (IIRC) is *Version* 1, as that implies a future version, presumably with substantial upgrades. On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 10:35 AM, RPN01 nix.rob...@mayo.edu wrote: If I remember the story correctly, you won't see a version such as 6.0, because in IBM wisdom, this would imply that there would be following releases (due to the decimal). Now why it's ok to have 6.1, and why that doesn't carry the same implication, I don't know. -- Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation.~. RO-OE-5-55 200 First Street SW/V\ 507-284-0844 Rochester, MN 55905 /( )\ -^^-^^ In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice, theory and practice are different. On 7/8/09 6:50 AM, Phil Smith III li...@akphs.com wrote: Mike Walter wrote: snip For that matter, z/VM Version 6.1? What happened to Version 6.0? Doesn't everyone know that odd-numbered versions are considered unlucky? Can't have Version 6 Release 0 ... ya know? ...phsiii -- Mark Pace Mainline Information Systems 1700 Summit Lake Drive Tallahassee, FL. 32317
Re: z/VM 6.1 - IBM Preview Letter..
Only if you are counting bits, bytes, words, etc., and then only if it is an offset you are counting. Who thought of using offset instead of ordinal numbers, anyway? Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Jack Woehr Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 8:17 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: z/VM 6.1 - IBM Preview Letter.. Ethan Lanz wrote: The first release of each version is necessarily Release 1. To people who learned programming from Rexx. To those of us who use assembler, Forth, C, Java, it would be Release 0 :) -- Jack J. Woehr# I run for public office from time to time. It's like http://www.well.com/~jax # working out at the gym, you sweat a lot, don't get http://www.softwoehr.com # anywhere, and you fall asleep easily afterwards.
Re: z/VM 6.1 - IBM Preview Letter..
Schuh, Richard wrote: Only if you are counting bits, bytes, words, etc., and then only if it is an offset you are counting. Who thought of using offset instead of ordinal numbers, anyway? The Almighty started on the zero'th day. After he did his work, the earth was without form and void, and the evening and subsequent morning were the first day, i.e., the first day wasn't complete until it was over! -- Jack J. Woehr# I run for public office from time to time. It's like http://www.well.com/~jax # working out at the gym, you sweat a lot, don't get http://www.softwoehr.com # anywhere, and you fall asleep easily afterwards.
Re: z/VM 6.1 - IBM Preview Letter..
z/OS being the current poster child I can just see the rain-drenched vista of the Poughkeepsie IBM plant in the poster with a soaking wet z10 sitting on the lawn out front, with the word Give. in a big white square at the bottom of the poster. -- db
Re: z/VM 6.1 - IBM Preview Letter..
At which point it was released as Day 1! :) On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 11:54 AM, Jack Woehr j...@well.com wrote: Schuh, Richard wrote: Only if you are counting bits, bytes, words, etc., and then only if it is an offset you are counting. Who thought of using offset instead of ordinal numbers, anyway? The Almighty started on the zero'th day. After he did his work, the earth was without form and void, and the evening and subsequent morning were the first day, i.e., the first day wasn't complete until it was over! -- Jack J. Woehr# I run for public office from time to time. It's like http://www.well.com/~jax http://www.well.com/%7Ejax # working out at the gym, you sweat a lot, don't get http://www.softwoehr.com # anywhere, and you fall asleep easily afterwards.
Re: z/VM 6.1 - IBM Preview Letter..
Ethan Lanz wrote: At which point it was released as Day 1! :) You win! -- Jack J. Woehr# I run for public office from time to time. It's like http://www.well.com/~jax # working out at the gym, you sweat a lot, don't get http://www.softwoehr.com # anywhere, and you fall asleep easily afterwards.
Re: z/VM 6.1 - IBM Preview Letter..
Also, Did you catch this part of the announcement IBM Europe, Middle East, and Africa Marketing Announcement ZA09-0015 So sorry everyone else, we have to wait this time around, no 6.1 for us yet :) William 'Doug' Carroll Mainframe Systems Eng Sr I Global Technology Infrastructure ECS Core Services z/Software Group / Emerging Technologies RedHat Certified Engineer: 805008304430937 -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 9:37 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: z/VM 6.1 - IBM Preview Letter.. On Tuesday, 07/07/2009 at 02:25 EDT, Ivan Warren i...@vmfacility.fr wrote: Found this little link in my weekly announcement summary : http://www.ibm.com/vrm/newsletter_10576_5350_121006_email_DYN_1IN/fremt106679968 Basically, it's z/VM 6.1.. Don't know if anyone had said anything about it previously.. No, we haven't said anything about z/VM 6.1 prior to this announcement. Anyway.. the most striking feature I see in this literature is that z/VM 6.1 is ... z10 ONLY ! True. We wanted to exploit instructions that are available only on the z10. Please also note these important items as well: - z/VM 5.4 end of service moved to 30 Sept 2013 (was 2011) - z/VM 5.4 will continue to be orderable to support older servers - Statement of Direction: z/VM Single System Image - Statement of Direction: z/VM Live Guest Relocation - Statement of Direction: Withdrawal of DNS server (NAMESRV) Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott This communication is for informational purposes only. It is not intended as an offer or solicitation for the purchase or sale of any financial instrument or as an official confirmation of any transaction. All market prices, data and other information are not warranted as to completeness or accuracy and are subject to change without notice. Any comments or statements made herein do not necessarily reflect those of JPMorgan Chase Co., its subsidiaries and affiliates. This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential, legally privileged, and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. Although this transmission and any attachments are believed to be free of any virus or other defect that might affect any computer system into which it is received and opened, it is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that it is virus free and no responsibility is accepted by JPMorgan Chase Co., its subsidiaries and affiliates, as applicable, for any loss or damage arising in any way from its use. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately contact the sender and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. Please refer to http://www.jpmorgan.com/pages/disclosures for disclosures relating to European legal entities.
Re: z/VM 6.1 - IBM Preview Letter..
Ivan Warren wrote: Found this little link in my weekly announcement summary : http://www.ibm.com/vrm/newsletter_10576_5350_121006_email_DYN_1IN/fremt106679968 Basically, it's z/VM 6.1.. Don't know if anyone had said anything about it previously.. Anyway.. the most striking feature I see in this literature is that z/VM 6.1 is ... z10 ONLY ! --Ivan Did you miss this? * *z/VM Single System Image* IBM intends to provide capabilities that permit multiple z/VM systems to collaborate in order to provide a single system image. This is planned to allow all z/VM member systems to be managed, serviced, and administered as one system across which workloads can be deployed. The single system image is intended to share resources among all member systems. * *z/VM Live Guest Relocation* IBM intends to further strengthen single system image support by providing live guest relocation. This is planned to provide the capability to move a running Linux virtual machine from one single system image member system to another. This is intended to further enhance workload management across a set of z/VM systems and to help clients avoid planned outages for virtual servers. -- Rich Smrcina Phone: 414-491-6001 http://www.linkedin.com/in/richsmrcina Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2010
Re: z/VM 6.1 - IBM Preview Letter..
On Tuesday, 07/07/2009 at 02:25 EDT, Ivan Warren i...@vmfacility.fr wrote: Found this little link in my weekly announcement summary : http://www.ibm.com/vrm/newsletter_10576_5350_121006_email_DYN_1IN/fremt106679968 Basically, it's z/VM 6.1.. Don't know if anyone had said anything about it previously.. No, we haven't said anything about z/VM 6.1 prior to this announcement. Anyway.. the most striking feature I see in this literature is that z/VM 6.1 is ... z10 ONLY ! True. We wanted to exploit instructions that are available only on the z10. Please also note these important items as well: - z/VM 5.4 end of service moved to 30 Sept 2013 (was 2011) - z/VM 5.4 will continue to be orderable to support older servers - Statement of Direction: z/VM Single System Image - Statement of Direction: z/VM Live Guest Relocation - Statement of Direction: Withdrawal of DNS server (NAMESRV) Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott
Re: z/VM 6.1 - IBM Preview Letter..
Those are Statements of Direction, not in 6.1. But good stuff!!! Hurry up and bring on 6.2! (if that is what they are in!). Marcy This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Rich Smrcina Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 6:17 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] z/VM 6.1 - IBM Preview Letter.. Ivan Warren wrote: Found this little link in my weekly announcement summary : http://www.ibm.com/vrm/newsletter_10576_5350_121006_email_DYN_1IN/fremt106679968 Basically, it's z/VM 6.1.. Don't know if anyone had said anything about it previously.. Anyway.. the most striking feature I see in this literature is that z/VM 6.1 is ... z10 ONLY ! --Ivan Did you miss this? * *z/VM Single System Image* IBM intends to provide capabilities that permit multiple z/VM systems to collaborate in order to provide a single system image. This is planned to allow all z/VM member systems to be managed, serviced, and administered as one system across which workloads can be deployed. The single system image is intended to share resources among all member systems. * *z/VM Live Guest Relocation* IBM intends to further strengthen single system image support by providing live guest relocation. This is planned to provide the capability to move a running Linux virtual machine from one single system image member system to another. This is intended to further enhance workload management across a set of z/VM systems and to help clients avoid planned outages for virtual servers. -- Rich Smrcina Phone: 414-491-6001 http://www.linkedin.com/in/richsmrcina Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2010
Re: z/VM 6.1 - IBM Preview Letter..
I hope that Linux is the first, not the only, guest O/S that can be supported by Guest Relocation. Regards, Richard Schuh * *z/VM Live Guest Relocation* IBM intends to further strengthen single system image support by providing live guest relocation. This is planned to provide the capability to move a running Linux virtual machine from one single system image member system to another. This is intended to further enhance workload management across a set of z/VM systems and to help clients avoid planned outages for virtual servers. -- Rich Smrcina Phone: 414-491-6001 http://www.linkedin.com/in/richsmrcina Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2010
Re: z/VM 6.1 - IBM Preview Letter..
I interpret the following to say that V6.1 will only run on a z10. Correct/Incorrect? This release implements a new Architecture Level Set (ALS) available only on the IBM System z10 Enterprise Class server and System z10 Business Class server and future generations of System z(r) servers. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Marcy Cortes Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 8:32 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: z/VM 6.1 - IBM Preview Letter.. Those are Statements of Direction, not in 6.1. But good stuff!!! Hurry up and bring on 6.2! (if that is what they are in!). Marcy This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Rich Smrcina Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 6:17 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] z/VM 6.1 - IBM Preview Letter.. Ivan Warren wrote: Found this little link in my weekly announcement summary : http://www.ibm.com/vrm/newsletter_10576_5350_121006_email_DYN_1IN/fremt1 06679968 Basically, it's z/VM 6.1.. Don't know if anyone had said anything about it previously.. Anyway.. the most striking feature I see in this literature is that z/VM 6.1 is ... z10 ONLY ! --Ivan Did you miss this? * *z/VM Single System Image* IBM intends to provide capabilities that permit multiple z/VM systems to collaborate in order to provide a single system image. This is planned to allow all z/VM member systems to be managed, serviced, and administered as one system across which workloads can be deployed. The single system image is intended to share resources among all member systems. * *z/VM Live Guest Relocation* IBM intends to further strengthen single system image support by providing live guest relocation. This is planned to provide the capability to move a running Linux virtual machine from one single system image member system to another. This is intended to further enhance workload management across a set of z/VM systems and to help clients avoid planned outages for virtual servers. -- Rich Smrcina Phone: 414-491-6001 http://www.linkedin.com/in/richsmrcina Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2010
Re: z/VM 6.1 - IBM Preview Letter..
It was probably going to be OFFICIALLY announced at SHARE in August ? Now you have gone and spoiled the surprise ! Bill Munson Sr. z/VM Systems Programmer Brown Brothers Harriman CO. 525 Washington Blvd. Jersey City, NJ 07310 201-418-7588 President MVMUA http://www2.marist.edu/~mvmua/ William D Carroll william.d.carr...@jpmchase.com Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 07/07/2009 10:40 AM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: z/VM 6.1 - IBM Preview Letter.. Also, Did you catch this part of the announcement IBM Europe, Middle East, and Africa Marketing Announcement ZA09-0015 So sorry everyone else, we have to wait this time around, no 6.1 for us yet :) William 'Doug' Carroll Mainframe Systems Eng Sr I Global Technology Infrastructure ECS Core Services z/Software Group / Emerging Technologies RedHat Certified Engineer: 805008304430937 -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 9:37 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: z/VM 6.1 - IBM Preview Letter.. On Tuesday, 07/07/2009 at 02:25 EDT, Ivan Warren i...@vmfacility.fr wrote: Found this little link in my weekly announcement summary : http://www.ibm.com/vrm/newsletter_10576_5350_121006_email_DYN_1IN/fremt106679968 Basically, it's z/VM 6.1.. Don't know if anyone had said anything about it previously.. No, we haven't said anything about z/VM 6.1 prior to this announcement. Anyway.. the most striking feature I see in this literature is that z/VM 6.1 is ... z10 ONLY ! True. We wanted to exploit instructions that are available only on the z10. Please also note these important items as well: - z/VM 5.4 end of service moved to 30 Sept 2013 (was 2011) - z/VM 5.4 will continue to be orderable to support older servers - Statement of Direction: z/VM Single System Image - Statement of Direction: z/VM Live Guest Relocation - Statement of Direction: Withdrawal of DNS server (NAMESRV) Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott This communication is for informational purposes only. It is not intended as an offer or solicitation for the purchase or sale of any financial instrument or as an official confirmation of any transaction. All market prices, data and other information are not warranted as to completeness or accuracy and are subject to change without notice. Any comments or statements made herein do not necessarily reflect those of JPMorgan Chase Co., its subsidiaries and affiliates. This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential, legally privileged, and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. Although this transmission and any attachments are believed to be free of any virus or other defect that might affect any computer system into which it is received and opened, it is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that it is virus free and no responsibility is accepted by JPMorgan Chase Co., its subsidiaries and affiliates, as applicable, for any loss or damage arising in any way from its use. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately contact the sender and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. Please refer to http://www.jpmorgan.com/pages/disclosures for disclosures relating to European legal entities. *** IMPORTANT NOTE* The opinions expressed in this message and/or any attachments are those of the author and not necessarily those of Brown Brothers Harriman Co., its subsidiaries and affiliates (BBH). There is no guarantee that this message is either private or confidential, and it may have been altered by unauthorized sources without your or our knowledge. Nothing in the message is capable or intended to create any legally binding obligations on either party and it is not intended to provide legal advice. BBH accepts no responsibility for loss or damage from its use, including damage from virus.
Re: z/VM 6.1 - IBM Preview Letter..
Correct. Hodge, Robert L wrote: I interpret the following to say that V6.1 will only run on a z10. Correct/Incorrect? This release implements a new Architecture Level Set (ALS) available only on the IBM System z10 Enterprise Class server and System z10 Business Class server and future generations of System z(r) servers. -- Rich Smrcina Phone: 414-491-6001 http://www.linkedin.com/in/richsmrcina Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2010
Re: z/VM 6.1 - IBM Preview Letter..
See Alan's response. True. We wanted to exploit instructions that are available only on the z10. On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 10:38 AM, Hodge, Robert L robert.l.ho...@lmco.comwrote: I interpret the following to say that V6.1 will only run on a z10. Correct/Incorrect? This release implements a new Architecture Level Set (ALS) available only on the IBM System z10 Enterprise Class server and System z10 Business Class server and future generations of System z(r) servers. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Marcy Cortes Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 8:32 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: z/VM 6.1 - IBM Preview Letter.. Those are Statements of Direction, not in 6.1. But good stuff!!! Hurry up and bring on 6.2! (if that is what they are in!). Marcy This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Rich Smrcina Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 6:17 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] z/VM 6.1 - IBM Preview Letter.. Ivan Warren wrote: Found this little link in my weekly announcement summary : http://www.ibm.com/vrm/newsletter_10576_5350_121006_email_DYN_1IN/fremt1 06679968 Basically, it's z/VM 6.1.. Don't know if anyone had said anything about it previously.. Anyway.. the most striking feature I see in this literature is that z/VM 6.1 is ... z10 ONLY ! --Ivan Did you miss this? * *z/VM Single System Image* IBM intends to provide capabilities that permit multiple z/VM systems to collaborate in order to provide a single system image. This is planned to allow all z/VM member systems to be managed, serviced, and administered as one system across which workloads can be deployed. The single system image is intended to share resources among all member systems. * *z/VM Live Guest Relocation* IBM intends to further strengthen single system image support by providing live guest relocation. This is planned to provide the capability to move a running Linux virtual machine from one single system image member system to another. This is intended to further enhance workload management across a set of z/VM systems and to help clients avoid planned outages for virtual servers. -- Rich Smrcina Phone: 414-491-6001 http://www.linkedin.com/in/richsmrcina Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2010 -- Mark Pace Mainline Information Systems 1700 Summit Lake Drive Tallahassee, FL. 32317
Re: z/VM 6.1 - IBM Preview Letter..
Is this GDPS/VM??? Alan Altmark wrote: On Tuesday, 07/07/2009 at 02:25 EDT, Ivan Warren i...@vmfacility.fr wrote: Found this little link in my weekly announcement summary : http://www.ibm.com/vrm/newsletter_10576_5350_121006_email_DYN_1IN/fremt106679968 Basically, it's z/VM 6.1.. Don't know if anyone had said anything about it previously.. No, we haven't said anything about z/VM 6.1 prior to this announcement. Anyway.. the most striking "feature" I see in this literature is that z/VM 6.1 is ... z10 ONLY ! True. We wanted to exploit instructions that are available only on the z10. Please also note these important items as well: - z/VM 5.4 end of service moved to 30 Sept 2013 (was 2011) - z/VM 5.4 will continue to be orderable to support older servers - Statement of Direction: z/VM Single System Image - Statement of Direction: z/VM Live Guest Relocation - Statement of Direction: Withdrawal of DNS server (NAMESRV) Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott
Re: z/VM 6.1 - IBM Preview Letter..
I get the US IBM Announcements and this was in it today. http://www.ibm.com/vrm/newsletter_10577_5037_121009_email_DYN_1IN/gvuhb33457147 Jim William D Carroll wrote: Also, Did you catch this part of the announcement=0D=0AIBM Europe, Middle= East, and Africa Marketing Announcement ZA09-0015=0D=0A=0D=0ASo sorry eve= ryone else, we have to wait this time around, no 6=2E1 for us yet :)=0D=0A= =0D=0A=0D=0AWilliam 'Doug' Carroll=0D=0AMainframe Systems Eng Sr I=0D=0AGlo= bal Technology Infrastructure=0D=0AECS Core Services z/Software Group / Eme= rging Technologies=0D=0ARedHat Certified Engineer: 805008304430937=0D=0A= =0D=0A=0D=0A-Original Message-=0D=0AFrom: The IBM z/VM Operating Sy= stem [mailto:ib...@listserv=2euark=2eedu] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark=0D=0ASe= nt: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 9:37 AM=0D=0ATo: ib...@listserv=2euark=2eedu=0d= =0ASubject: Re: z/VM 6=2E1 - IBM Preview Letter=2E=2E=0D=0A=0D=0AOn Tuesday= , 07/07/2009 at 02:25 EDT, Ivan Warren i...@vmfacility=2efr =0D=0Awrote:= =0D=0A Found this little link in my weekly announcement summary :=0D=0A = =0D=0A =0D=0Ahttp://www=2Eibm=2Ecom/vrm/newsletter_10576_5350_121006_email= _DYN_1IN/fremt106679968=0D=0A =0D=0A Basically, it's z/VM 6=2E1=2E=2E Don= 't know if anyone had said anything about=0D=0A it previously=2E=2E=0D=0A= =0D=0ANo, we haven't said anything about z/VM 6=2E1 prior to this announcem= ent=2E=0D=0A=0D=0A Anyway=2E=2E the most striking feature I see in this = literature is that=0D=0A z/VM 6=2E1 is =2E=2E=2E z10 ONLY !=0D=0A=0D=0ATru= e=2E We wanted to exploit instructions that are available only on the =0D= =0Az10=2E=0D=0A=0D=0APlease also note these important items as well:=0D=0A-= z/VM 5=2E4 end of service moved to 30 Sept 2013 (was 2011)=0D=0A- z/VM 5= =2E4 will continue to be orderable to support older servers=0D=0A- Statemen= t of Direction: z/VM Single System Image=0D=0A- Statement of Direction: z/V= M Live Guest Relocation=0D=0A- Statement of Direction: Withdrawal of DNS se= rver (NAMESRV)=0D=0A=0D=0AAlan Altmark=0D=0Az/VM Development=0D=0AIBM Endic= ott=0D=0AThis communication is for informational purposes only=2E It is not= =0Aintended as an offer or solicitation for the purchase or sale of=0Aany f= inancial instrument or as an official confirmation of any=0Atransaction=2E = All market prices, data and other information are not=0Awarranted as to com= pleteness or accuracy and are subject to change=0Awithout notice=2E Any com= ments or statements made herein do not=0Anecessarily reflect those of JPMor= gan Chase Co=2E, its subsidiaries=0Aand affiliates=2E=0D=0A=0D=0AThis tra= nsmission may contain information that is privileged,=0Aconfidential, legal= ly privileged, and/or exempt from disclosure=0Aunder applicable law=2E If y= ou are not the intended recipient, you=0Aare hereby notified that any discl= osure, copying, distribution, or=0Ause of the information contained herein = (including any reliance=0Athereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED=2E Although this = transmission and any=0Aattachments are believed to be free of any virus or = other defect=0Athat might affect any computer system into which it is recei= ved and=0Aopened, it is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that = it=0Ais virus free and no responsibility is accepted by JPMorgan Chase =0A= Co=2E, its subsidiaries and affiliates, as applicable, for any loss=0Aor da= mage arising in any way from its use=2E If you received this=0Atransmission= in error, please immediately contact the sender and=0Adestroy the material= in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard=0Acopy format=2E Thank you= =2E=0D=0A=0D=0APlease refer to http://www=2Ejpmorgan=2Ecom/pages/disclosure= s for=0Adisclosures relating to European legal entities=2E -- Jim Bohnsack Cornell University (972) 596-6377 home/office (972) 342-5823 cell jab...@cornell.edu
Re: z/VM 6.1 - IBM Preview Letter..
Nope, but you can buy that today if you really wanted to. It's called GDPS/PPRC Multiplatform Resiliency for System z (Cross Platform Disaster Recovery) http://ew.share.org/client_files/callpapers/attach/SHARE_in_Orlando/S5247NL094447.pdf (GDPS/VM would be a much easier to understand/remember name though!) Marcy This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Mr. Woofer Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 8:26 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] z/VM 6.1 - IBM Preview Letter.. Is this GDPS/VM???
Re: z/VM 6.1 - IBM Preview Letter..
On Tuesday, 07/07/2009 at 12:27 EDT, Mr. Woofer mrwoo...@swbell.net wrote: Is this GDPS/VM??? Not really, no. GDPS is a collection of Services offerings that create an automated recovery HA/DR environment for System z (site failover, I/O failover, ...) with special focus on z/OS. GDPS already supports z/VM. If you mean Is a z/VM Single System Image similar to a z/OS SYSPLEX? then I would answer Sort of. It will be a tightly-coupled cluster of z/VM systems that share resources, communicate information about those resources, and share a single security context. (And, no, it won't use the Coupling Facility.) Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott
Re: z/VM 6.1 - IBM Preview Letter..
Or later .. is it time for z11 yet?? -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Rich Smrcina Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 10:32 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: z/VM 6.1 - IBM Preview Letter.. Correct. Hodge, Robert L wrote: I interpret the following to say that V6.1 will only run on a z10. Correct/Incorrect? This release implements a new Architecture Level Set (ALS) available only on the IBM System z10 Enterprise Class server and System z10 Business Class server and future generations of System z(r) servers. -- Rich Smrcina Phone: 414-491-6001 http://www.linkedin.com/in/richsmrcina Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2010
Re: z/VM 6.1 - IBM Preview Letter..
z11? And you call yourself a __SYSPROG__!!? Wouldn't the next model be a zA? ;-) Oh, that's right... there are probably rooms full of IBM marketeers who don't speak geek yet pick the next model names. Nevermind. For that matter, z/VM Version 6.1? What happened to Version 6.0? Doesn't everyone know that odd-numbered versions are considered unlucky? Or was that just for PUTs in days of yore? If they're worried about senior management acceptance of low version numbers, then this could have been Version 6.5 (following Version 5.4) - 6.5 would probably be acceptable to even the most strident risk-averse senior manager. But then, the new code that will probably be staged for z/VM Single System Image and z/VM Live Guest Migration (after all, why bother migrating a dead guest?) might be, u... very interesting - at least as a challenge for Early Support Program customers. Mike Walter Hewitt Associates Any opinions expressed herein are mine alone and do not necessarily represent the opinions or policies of Hewitt Associates. Huegel, Thomas thue...@kable.com Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 07/07/2009 11:11 AM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: z/VM 6.1 - IBM Preview Letter.. Or later .. is it time for z11 yet?? -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Rich Smrcina Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 10:32 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: z/VM 6.1 - IBM Preview Letter.. Correct. Hodge, Robert L wrote: I interpret the following to say that V6.1 will only run on a z10. Correct/Incorrect? This release implements a new Architecture Level Set (ALS) available only on the IBM System z10 Enterprise Class server and System z10 Business Class server and future generations of System z(r) servers. -- Rich Smrcina Phone: 414-491-6001 http://www.linkedin.com/in/richsmrcina Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2010 The information contained in this e-mail and any accompanying documents may contain information that is confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, or if this message has been addressed to you in error, please immediately alert the sender by reply e-mail and then delete this message, including any attachments. Any dissemination, distribution or other use of the contents of this message by anyone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. All messages sent to and from this e-mail address may be monitored as permitted by applicable law and regulations to ensure compliance with our internal policies and to protect our business. E-mails are not secure and cannot be guaranteed to be error free as they can be intercepted, amended, lost or destroyed, or contain viruses. You are deemed to have accepted these risks if you communicate with us by e-mail.
Re: z/VM 6.1 - IBM Preview Letter..
Well we have been trying to set this up under z/VM 5.4 with suse10 sp 2 on a layer 2 switch with no luck. So I guess we should hold off until 6.1 is available :-) Anyone having any luck with the ability to move Linux guests from one z/VM to another while retaining it's IP and MAC address? We were told this could only be done on a layer 2 network especially if we want to trunk OSA's for band width. Sorry to jump in on the z/VM 6.1 subject. Russell Gendreau Time Customer Service, Inc. 813-554-2064 -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Schuh, Richard Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 12:00 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: z/VM 6.1 - IBM Preview Letter.. I hope that Linux is the first, not the only, guest O/S that can be supported by Guest Relocation. Regards, Richard Schuh * *z/VM Live Guest Relocation* IBM intends to further strengthen single system image support by providing live guest relocation. This is planned to provide the capability to move a running Linux virtual machine from one single system image member system to another. This is intended to further enhance workload management across a set of z/VM systems and to help clients avoid planned outages for virtual servers. -- Rich Smrcina Phone: 414-491-6001 http://www.linkedin.com/in/richsmrcina Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2010
Re: z/VM 6.1 - IBM Preview Letter..
On 7/7/2009 at 3:31 PM, russell.gendr...@custserv.com wrote: Well we have been trying to set this up under z/VM 5.4 with suse10 sp 2 on a layer 2 switch with no luck. So I guess we should hold off until 6.1 is available :-) I doubt this has anything to do with the version of z/VM you're running. From what I can tell, you do have support via IBM, so it may be time to open up a PMR with them. Mark Post
Re: z/VM 6.1 - IBM Preview Letter..
Sounds like a re-birth of VM/CMS Unlimited's Single System Image product from VM/SP 5 and HPO 5 days. I am guessing that Romney W. may have something to do with this :) Mike Brocade Communications -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 1:05 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: z/VM 6.1 - IBM Preview Letter.. If you mean Is a z/VM Single System Image similar to a z/OS SYSPLEX? then I would answer Sort of. It will be a tightly-coupled cluster of z/VM systems that share resources, communicate information about those resources, and share a single security context. (And, no, it won't use the Coupling Facility.) Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott
Re: z/VM 6.1 - IBM Preview Letter..
Wouldn't it be zB ? :) -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Mike Walter Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 2:36 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: z/VM 6.1 - IBM Preview Letter.. z11? And you call yourself a __SYSPROG__!!? Wouldn't the next model be a zA? ;-) Oh, that's right... there are probably rooms full of IBM marketeers who don't speak geek yet pick the next model names. Nevermind. For that matter, z/VM Version 6.1? What happened to Version 6.0? Doesn't everyone know that odd-numbered versions are considered unlucky? Or was that just for PUTs in days of yore? If they're worried about senior management acceptance of low version numbers, then this could have been Version 6.5 (following Version 5.4) - 6.5 would probably be acceptable to even the most strident risk-averse senior manager. But then, the new code that will probably be staged for z/VM Single System Image and z/VM Live Guest Migration (after all, why bother migrating a dead guest?) might be, u... very interesting - at least as a challenge for Early Support Program customers. Mike Walter Hewitt Associates Any opinions expressed herein are mine alone and do not necessarily represent the opinions or policies of Hewitt Associates. Huegel, Thomas thue...@kable.com Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 07/07/2009 11:11 AM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: z/VM 6.1 - IBM Preview Letter.. Or later .. is it time for z11 yet?? -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Rich Smrcina Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 10:32 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: z/VM 6.1 - IBM Preview Letter.. Correct. Hodge, Robert L wrote: I interpret the following to say that V6.1 will only run on a z10. Correct/Incorrect? This release implements a new Architecture Level Set (ALS) available only on the IBM System z10 Enterprise Class server and System z10 Business Class server and future generations of System z(r) servers. -- Rich Smrcina Phone: 414-491-6001 http://www.linkedin.com/in/richsmrcina Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2010 The information contained in this e-mail and any accompanying documents may contain information that is confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, or if this message has been addressed to you in error, please immediately alert the sender by reply e-mail and then delete this message, including any attachments. Any dissemination, distribution or other use of the contents of this message by anyone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. All messages sent to and from this e-mail address may be monitored as permitted by applicable law and regulations to ensure compliance with our internal policies and to protect our business. E-mails are not secure and cannot be guaranteed to be error free as they can be intercepted, amended, lost or destroyed, or contain viruses. You are deemed to have accepted these risks if you communicate with us by e-mail.
Re: z/VM 6.1 - IBM Preview Letter..
Already have, just hoping someone may have this working; or are we trying to do something that really has not been done or proven in a production business environment. I will say I believe the issue is more then likely with the linux guest install script or something related to the install of the linux guest not able to use a MAC address in a layer 2 switch. I don't know yet. Russell Gendreau Time Customer Service, Inc. 813-554-2064 -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Mark Post Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 3:55 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: z/VM 6.1 - IBM Preview Letter.. On 7/7/2009 at 3:31 PM, russell.gendr...@custserv.com wrote: Well we have been trying to set this up under z/VM 5.4 with suse10 sp 2 on a layer 2 switch with no luck. So I guess we should hold off until 6.1 is available :-) I doubt this has anything to do with the version of z/VM you're running. From what I can tell, you do have support via IBM, so it may be time to open up a PMR with them. Mark Post
Re: z/VM 6.1 - IBM Preview Letter..
In the days of O/S 360, the even numbered releases were the bad ones. Was it perhaps because of the team alignments? We went from O/S MFT R15 to R17 and then to R21 and had very little trouble with any of them. On the other hand, the people I knew who installed R16 and R20 had all sorts of trouble. That was before the availability of VM. Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- For that matter, z/VM Version 6.1? What happened to Version 6.0? Doesn't everyone know that odd-numbered versions are considered unlucky? Or was that just for PUTs in days of yore? Mike Walter Hewitt Associates Any opinions expressed herein are mine alone and do not necessarily represent the opinions or policies of Hewitt Associates.
Re: z/VM 6.1 - IBM Preview Letter..
Mike, zA would come after z9, not z10. Dennis A good plan, violently executed now, is better than a perfect plan next week.. -- General George S. Patton -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Mike Walter Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 12:36 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] z/VM 6.1 - IBM Preview Letter.. z11? And you call yourself a __SYSPROG__!!? Wouldn't the next model be a zA? ;-) Oh, that's right... there are probably rooms full of IBM marketeers who don't speak geek yet pick the next model names. Nevermind. For that matter, z/VM Version 6.1? What happened to Version 6.0? Doesn't everyone know that odd-numbered versions are considered unlucky? Or was that just for PUTs in days of yore? If they're worried about senior management acceptance of low version numbers, then this could have been Version 6.5 (following Version 5.4) - 6.5 would probably be acceptable to even the most strident risk-averse senior manager. But then, the new code that will probably be staged for z/VM Single System Image and z/VM Live Guest Migration (after all, why bother migrating a dead guest?) might be, u... very interesting - at least as a challenge for Early Support Program customers. Mike Walter Hewitt Associates Any opinions expressed herein are mine alone and do not necessarily represent the opinions or policies of Hewitt Associates. Huegel, Thomas thue...@kable.com Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 07/07/2009 11:11 AM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: z/VM 6.1 - IBM Preview Letter.. Or later .. is it time for z11 yet?? -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Rich Smrcina Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 10:32 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: z/VM 6.1 - IBM Preview Letter.. Correct. Hodge, Robert L wrote: I interpret the following to say that V6.1 will only run on a z10. Correct/Incorrect? This release implements a new Architecture Level Set (ALS) available only on the IBM System z10 Enterprise Class server and System z10 Business Class server and future generations of System z(r) servers. -- Rich Smrcina Phone: 414-491-6001 http://www.linkedin.com/in/richsmrcina Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2010 The information contained in this e-mail and any accompanying documents may contain information that is confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, or if this message has been addressed to you in error, please immediately alert the sender by reply e-mail and then delete this message, including any attachments. Any dissemination, distribution or other use of the contents of this message by anyone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. All messages sent to and from this e-mail address may be monitored as permitted by applicable law and regulations to ensure compliance with our internal policies and to protect our business. E-mails are not secure and cannot be guaranteed to be error free as they can be intercepted, amended, lost or destroyed, or contain viruses. You are deemed to have accepted these risks if you communicate with us by e-mail.
Re: z/VM 6.1 - IBM Preview Letter..
On Tuesday, 07/07/2009 at 03:33 EDT, russell.gendr...@custserv.com wrote: Well we have been trying to set this up under z/VM 5.4 with suse10 sp 2 on a layer 2 switch with no luck. So I guess we should hold off until 6.1 is available :-) Anyone having any luck with the ability to move Linux guests from one z/VM to another while retaining it's IP and MAC address? We were told this could only be done on a layer 2 network especially if we want to trunk OSA's for band width. Sorry to jump in on the z/VM 6.1 subject. You can do this, but you have to make sure that both CP's have the same MACPREFIX in SYSTEM CONFIG and that the directory entry for the user on both systems has the same MACID. This means you need to carefully control the range that CP will use for automatic MAC addresses assignments so that they don't overlap. And, yes, it requires Layer 2 VSWITCH. The other requirement is that Linux issue a gratuitous ARP response (grat ARP) when the adapter is enabled. That's how the physical switch knows that MAC is on port . Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott
Re: z/VM 6.1 - IBM Preview Letter..
On 7/7/2009 at 4:12 PM, russell.gendr...@custserv.com wrote: Already have, just hoping someone may have this working; or are we trying to do something that really has not been done or proven in a production business environment. I've done it a number of times on my z/VM guest, and never saw this issue. Mark Post
Re: z/VM 6.1 - IBM Preview Letter..
Dennis, You win the kewpie doll! I was wondering how long it would be before a REAL SYSPROG would notice that. Of course... I planted it that way to see who was paying attention. That's my story and I'm sticking to it! ;-) blush After a z10, it would always be a z11 if IBM suddenly switched over to binary, right? Then a z100, etc... Mike Walter Hewitt Associates Any opinions expressed herein are mine alone and do not necessarily represent the opinions or policies of Hewitt Associates. O'Brien, Dennis L dennis.l.o'br...@bankofamerica.com Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 07/07/2009 03:30 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: z/VM 6.1 - IBM Preview Letter.. Mike, zA would come after z9, not z10. Dennis A good plan, violently executed now, is better than a perfect plan next week.. -- General George S. Patton -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Mike Walter Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 12:36 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] z/VM 6.1 - IBM Preview Letter.. z11? And you call yourself a __SYSPROG__!!? Wouldn't the next model be a zA? ;-) Oh, that's right... there are probably rooms full of IBM marketeers who don't speak geek yet pick the next model names. Nevermind. For that matter, z/VM Version 6.1? What happened to Version 6.0? Doesn't everyone know that odd-numbered versions are considered unlucky? Or was that just for PUTs in days of yore? If they're worried about senior management acceptance of low version numbers, then this could have been Version 6.5 (following Version 5.4) - 6.5 would probably be acceptable to even the most strident risk-averse senior manager. But then, the new code that will probably be staged for z/VM Single System Image and z/VM Live Guest Migration (after all, why bother migrating a dead guest?) might be, u... very interesting - at least as a challenge for Early Support Program customers. Mike Walter Hewitt Associates Any opinions expressed herein are mine alone and do not necessarily represent the opinions or policies of Hewitt Associates. Huegel, Thomas thue...@kable.com Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 07/07/2009 11:11 AM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: z/VM 6.1 - IBM Preview Letter.. Or later .. is it time for z11 yet?? -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Rich Smrcina Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 10:32 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: z/VM 6.1 - IBM Preview Letter.. Correct. Hodge, Robert L wrote: I interpret the following to say that V6.1 will only run on a z10. Correct/Incorrect? This release implements a new Architecture Level Set (ALS) available only on the IBM System z10 Enterprise Class server and System z10 Business Class server and future generations of System z(r) servers. -- Rich Smrcina Phone: 414-491-6001 http://www.linkedin.com/in/richsmrcina Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2010 The information contained in this e-mail and any accompanying documents may contain information that is confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, or if this message has been addressed to you in error, please immediately alert the sender by reply e-mail and then delete this message, including any attachments. Any dissemination, distribution or other use of the contents of this message by anyone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. All messages sent to and from this e-mail address may be monitored as permitted by applicable law and regulations to ensure compliance with our internal policies and to protect our business. E-mails are not secure and cannot be guaranteed to be error free as they can be intercepted, amended, lost or destroyed, or contain viruses. You are deemed to have accepted these risks if you communicate with us by e-mail. The information contained in this e-mail and any accompanying documents may contain information that is confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, or if this message has been addressed to you in error, please immediately alert the sender by reply e-mail and then delete this message, including any attachments. Any dissemination, distribution or other use of the contents of this message by anyone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. All messages sent to and from this e-mail address may be monitored as permitted by applicable law and regulations to ensure compliance with our internal policies and to protect our
Re: z/VM 6.1 - IBM Preview Letter..
Mike Walter wrote: After a z10, it would always be a z11 if IBM suddenly switched over to binary, right? Then a z100, etc... Let's try to make sense of the marketroids branding system.. 1st, let's look at the facts : In chronological order, and excluding the 'BC' class systems (z800, z890, z9-109 renamed z9 EC, the z9 BC, z10 renamed z10 EC and the z10 BC), we have : U(0)=z900 U(1)=z990 U(2)=z9 U(3)=z10 So how does one calculate Un ? (z is a common factor so it is ignored). Apparently, when n is Even or 0, U(n+1)=U(n)+U(n)/10 as 900+90 = 990 and 9+.9=9.9 which can be rounded to 10 And when n is Odd, U(n+1)=U(n)/110 as 990/110 = 9 So My belief if that the next generation and any subsequent generations should be z0 since 10/110=1/11=0.0909... which can be rounded to 0 Of course, it could also be named a z2, z1000, z19, z1900 or .. whatever.. (just not z80.. please !) (Oops.. It's not Friday yet ?) --Ivan
Re: z/VM 6.1 - IBM Preview Letter..
After a z10, it would always be a z11 if IBM suddenly switched over to binary, right? Then a z100, etc... Well, actually, assuming any reasonably rational base, 11 would always follow 10. The question gets interesting when you reach n symbols in a single position (assuming zero as minimum). But that's REALLY not related to the Preview letter.
