Re: [IceHorses] Lori's Place
>>>I'll tell you what, this winter, when it is cold and miserable, I will trailer down with Andi and spend a week in my camper close to you, and we can go together, and I will be glad to help you!!! >> Better yet..."I" will come down this winter when >> it's -40 up here and >> I'll be happy to do anything >> > Everyone is welcome. And Judy can come and visit too. YES! Party at Lori's in AZ! Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com
[IceHorses] Comment for Lori
Hi Lori: When we were working with Peppy to get him accustomed to traffic when we were training him to drive. We took him on many relaxing walks along the road where we encountered trafficand sometimes I brought Gusti or someone else along. Always just on a lead rope, no one was riding. Long relaxing pleasant walks might help a barn sour horse settle in with his new neighbourhood and all the sights and sounds and smells that go with it. If your arms are tired from holding him back on the way home, would it be easier to manage from the ground? There's more than one way to skin a cat...(lordy...I hate that saying)... Sometimes we set our goals a little too lofty for the day, when the reality is...tons of good progress was made, and the next day you can build a little more positive progress onto that. Seriously, I wish I was there to help you relax and puzzle through this. I think you're doing wonderfully well with him as it is though Wanda
Re: [IceHorses] another snaffle or just bit question
On 06/08/07, Lorraine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sorry Wanda, I am getting names mixed up because > everyone is trying to help me. And thanks for the answer Oh no Lori...I just butted in...There may have been a message from Nancy that I was missing in the conversation. My email has not been the greatest lately... Wanda
Re: [IceHorses] O/T Peppy
On 06/08/07, Judy Ryder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Oh, and lights! > > It should have some battery operated lights or LED's And some feather plumes and some bells... Oh...where is Janice when we need her.? Wanda (actually lights aren't a bad idea)...
Re: [IceHorses] Noel and Blondie
> Here's Noel and Blondie, MFT, Sorry, Blondie is a gaited Morgan, not MFT. Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com
Re: [IceHorses] snaffles
> Better yet..."I" will come down this winter when > it's -40 up here and > I'll be happy to do anything > > Wanda Everyone is welcome. And Judy can come and visit too. Happy Trails from Lorraine Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/
Re: [IceHorses] O/T Peppy
> > > Peppy was as perfect as though he was just driven > yesterday. Not one > mistake. He's a good boy and as bright as a button. > Great pictures. Happy Trails from Lorraine Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545433
Re: [IceHorses] another snaffle or just bit question
> > I'm not Nancy, but the nutcracker effect means that > Sorry Wanda, I am getting names mixed up because everyone is trying to help me. And thanks for the answer Happy Trails from Lorraine Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7
Re: [IceHorses] O/T Peppy
> This is fine for now though. Come to think of it, we need to paint > the sleighs before the cold weather hits. Oh, and lights! It should have some battery operated lights or LED's Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com
Re: [IceHorses] snaffles
> Going for a walk just means the two of you can visit > while you're > making progress with your horse > > Wanda > That would be nice. Happy Trails from Lorraine Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545433
Re: [IceHorses] snaffles
> I'll tell you what, this winter, when it is cold and > miserable, I will trailer down with Andi and spend a > week in my camper close to you, and we can go > together, and I will be glad to help you!!! > Wow Susan, That would be so cool. It is very pretty here in the winter. Happy Trails from Lorraine Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=summer+activities+for+kids&cs=bz
Re: [IceHorses] O/T Peppy
On 06/08/07, Judy Ryder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Superb! > > Is that the cart that Kevin built? No, Kevin made sleighs for both Peppy and Gusti. This cart was made by one of the driving club members, but now that we know what we need, Kevin may build a fancy schmancy one for Peppy with better tires, should we decide to take him into the driving trials next year. This is fine for now though. Come to think of it, we need to paint the sleighs before the cold weather hits. Wanda
Re: [IceHorses] O/T Peppy
> Peppy was as perfect as though he was just driven yesterday. Not one > mistake. He's a good boy and as bright as a button. Superb! Is that the cart that Kevin built? Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com
Re: [IceHorses] another snaffle or just bit question
>>>the nutcracker effect means that the bit has a > single joint that can poke the soft pallet on the roof of the horses > mouth, while 'cracking' down on the jawline along the bars of the > horse's lower jaw. Here are some bit radiographs: http://iceryder.net/bitradiographs.html This is with the static bit in the horse's mouth (no contact from the reins, which would present different pictures). Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com
Re: [IceHorses] snaffles
On 06/08/07, Lorraine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nice try Wanda. My husband??? Scofff. I love him > but he expects me to take care of the horse stuff. > Maybe I can get someone. Goog idea though. > > Happy Trails from Lorraine Well...never say never. I just sent in some pics of my previously non-horsey husband ...doing ground driving with Dagur and now tonight I sent in pics of him driving Peppy... Going for a walk just means the two of you can visit while you're making progress with your horse Wanda
Re: [IceHorses] Maja videos - first ride
>> Ok, this is really getting boring, so please don't >> feel you have to watch<< > > Absolutely not! boring is good! I love watching this > "boring" stuff. I think it's great, and generous for everyone to show how they're starting their Icelandic Horses. It will help those coming up to be able to read the text and view the videos. Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com
Re: [IceHorses] snaffles
On 06/08/07, susan cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'll tell you what, this winter, when it is cold and > miserable, I will trailer down with Andi and spend a > week in my camper close to you, and we can go > together, and I will be glad to help you!!! Better yet..."I" will come down this winter when it's -40 up here and I'll be happy to do anything Wanda
Re: [IceHorses] another snaffle or just bit question
On 06/08/07, Lorraine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nancy, What is the nutcracker effect? Dumb question > I am sure. That must mean it pinchs right? I'm not Nancy, but the nutcracker effect means that the bit has a single joint that can poke the soft pallet on the roof of the horses mouth, while 'cracking' down on the jawline along the bars of the horse's lower jaw. A double jointed snaffle is much kinderor can be kinder. Depending on the hands at the end of the reins.. Wanda
Re: [IceHorses] Maja videos - first ride
On 06/08/07, susan cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Absolutely not! boring is good! I love watching this > "boring" stuff. I'm getting all my preliminary work > done on Andi - all the boring stuff. On October 1, I > am wimping out and taking him to a trainer for 30 days > of riding. Well...you know what you need and you're getting the job done. Try to pop in now and then and watch the training if possible. It might give you some insight into what you need to know about him when the time comes for you to ride. Also, when you take over the reins, can you take some lessons from this trainer? Give us feedback on how this is working for you. You never know when one of us might need some advice about the do's and don'ts of finding a trainer... Good luck with this I know I'm spoiled having Cara and Kevin to help me, but there are times when we shake our heads puzzling over how to present some concept now and then. Sometimes I envy Karen, having Shirley so close... Wanda
[IceHorses] Noel and Blondie
Here's Noel and Blondie, MFT, from the gaitedhorse list, doing hunter jumper: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fT0soKBNo-A Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com
Re: [IceHorses] O/T - Does this pup match my new saddle?
On 06/08/07, Nancy Sturm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Oh come on you guys - I not only have a grandhorse, I have two great > grandhorses. > Nancy Two great grand horses? Well...so do I come to think of it... Is being this desperate sad?... Wanda
Re: [IceHorses] snaffles
--- Lorraine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nice try Wanda. My husband??? Scofff. I love him > but he expects me to take care of the horse stuff. > Maybe I can get someone. Goog idea though. << I'll tell you what, this winter, when it is cold and miserable, I will trailer down with Andi and spend a week in my camper close to you, and we can go together, and I will be glad to help you!!! Susan in NV Nevermore Ranch http://users.oasisol.com/nevermore/ Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7
Re: [IceHorses] another snaffle or just bit question
> > My two use a standard Icelandic size bitless bridle > made by Kaaren's > husband. They are more relaxed and responsive, > easier to stop on the trail > in case of a spook, and I don't have to worry what > size the bits should be > or in what way they are making my horses > uncomfortable. > > Sue > > Do you know the website? Is it Kaaren Jordan that has the treeless saddles? I tryed a sidepull on Scooter and he started bolting. But it was a cheap one. I may have had it on wrong. Probably. Geeezz Happy Trails from Lorraine Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. http://travel.yahoo.com/
Re: [IceHorses] Maja videos - first ride
--- Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ok, this is really getting boring, so please don't > feel you have to watch<< Absolutely not! boring is good! I love watching this "boring" stuff. I'm getting all my preliminary work done on Andi - all the boring stuff. On October 1, I am wimping out and taking him to a trainer for 30 days of riding. I know it's not much, but I don't mind a green horse, but I want someone who won't tense up putting the first rides on. Someone who is relaxed, then when I take over after 30 days, I will be relaxed. But at least I did back him first, and 3 times at that. Being the first was always my dream, and I did fulfill that! Susan in NV Nevermore Ranch http://users.oasisol.com/nevermore/ Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. http://farechase.yahoo.com/
Re: [IceHorses] another snaffle or just bit question
The bit will collapse in the horse's mouth, pinching the corners of his lips and stabbing him in the roof of his mouth. You can play with it in your hands to see what it might do. I actually usually use a French-link snaffle. It is a little less likely to break in the middle and tuen into a vise. I also have one I just bought that is made from sweet iron and has a little copper roller in the middle where the two pieces join. Yrsa isn't the least bit fussy with it so I'm assuming she likes the way it tastes. Nancy
Re: [IceHorses] The Eyes of the Horse
Ah - what a great article. I have an off-track Standardbed that has the saddest eyes I have ever seen. He is twelve years old and I know of eight owners. There could have been more. Right now a friend is riding him while her horse heals. He searches for my face when we are out riding and watches for me when she's tacking up. He seems to seek reassurance. There is no way I would sell him, even though I have never quite figured out what he would enjoy. He has earned a permanent home. Nancy
Re: [IceHorses] another snaffle or just bit question
> > Do you have different size bits to try in his mouth? > > For a snaffle, I would suggest a double jointed > mouthpiece (not the single > jointed), something like a french link (not Dr. > Bristol), eggbutt or D-ring. > > I have about 20 bits. I like to try everything. Also like to shop. I have a french link. I think I got it from Stateline Tack. It is a 4 and a half. I tryed it on Dagur. He seemed ok but I was in the round coral. He neck reins some too. Happy Trails from Lorraine Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=graduation+gifts&cs=bz
Re: [IceHorses] another snaffle or just bit question
> > Take a lead rope and pop it in his mouth, and hold > it on either side I measured the bit that came withScooter. It is a 5". But that bit I didn't like. It was hard to stop him too. Must be me. Oh man.. Happy Trails from Lorraine Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. http://travel.yahoo.com/
Re: [IceHorses] another snaffle or just bit question
> wide, it has even more of the nutcracker action that > people complain of. > > Nancy Nancy, What is the nutcracker effect? Dumb question I am sure. That must mean it pinchs right? Happy Trails from Lorraine Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545433
RE: [IceHorses] another snaffle or just bit question
> > That's right. You don't want a bit so narrow that > it rubs the corners of > the mouth, but if it's too wide, the edges won't be > supported by the bars, Should I try the lead rope thing? Happy Trails from Lorraine Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=graduation+gifts&cs=bz
Re: [IceHorses] snaffles
) > get my gelding's attention. The release part is > very > important. > > -Kristen > > > I must be pulling too hard. I am going out again tomorrow. Wish me luck. My chiropracter appt. is after. I will probably need it. LOL Happy Trails from Lorraine Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center. http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/
Re: [IceHorses] another snaffle or just bit question
> > > That's how I learned to do it... > > Wanda Thanks Wanda. Happy Trails from Lorraine Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. http://sims.yahoo.com/
Re: [IceHorses] snaffles
> > You know Lori, another thing you can do is you can > ride him, while a > friend or your hubby comes along for a walk on the > ground. The person > on the ground can help set the pace on the way home. > Nice try Wanda. My husband??? Scofff. I love him but he expects me to take care of the horse stuff. Maybe I can get someone. Goog idea though. Happy Trails from Lorraine Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. http://sims.yahoo.com/
Re: [IceHorses] another snaffle or just bit question
> If you took English lessons, then you know that when > the snaffle is too > wide, it has even more of the nutcracker action that > people complain of. No. My trainer failed to tell me that. She just picked out the bit for me. He did great with it. Captain was an Arab. Still is I hope. I sold him. I am learning tons of stuff. Wow Happy Trails from Lorraine Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow
[IceHorses] The 5 F's
The 5 F's - Flight, Fight, Freeze, Fidget, Faint by Robyn Hood This could also be called, beyond fight & flight; since these are the usually associated with instinctive responses and the other three are rarely considered except in the context of behavior or attitude. Over the years the "fight" and "flight" responses in horses have been recognized as a starting point in many training methods. We all have experienced dangerous, or potentially dangerous, situations because of those instincts, and many humans and horses have been hurt because of these responses. The following scenarios are familiar to many of us: [] A horse spooks and flees at the sight of flapping plastic. [] A tied horse pulls back and fights at the end of the lead. [] Upon approaching the trailer, the horse's head goes up and he bolts away from the trailer. This list goes on! I imagine you could add a few of your own to the story, but the same basic characteristics are displayed by these horses: their heads go up, the adrenalin flows, their breathing pattern changes and these animals simply react instinctively. They don't think. The Flight or Fight Reflex One of the main principles of the TTEAM work is to teach a horse to override the flight or fight reflex. We teach the horse to stop and evaluate a situation by thinking rather than by responding instinctively. While this instinctive response is the key to a horse's survival in the wild, it is no longer useful to the domesticated horse. It is, in fact, the cause of many dangerous situations. In the wild, a horse's fight or flight reflex almost always triggered his flight from something threatening his existence. He rarely chose to stand and fight if there were other paths to safety. In his vastly different life of today, however, flight is not always an option for the horse. Thus, some individuals turn their fear into fight or aggressive actions. These horses may bite, kick and when pushed to the point of feeling cornered, attack. We need to recognize that even these dramatic responses are simply the horse trying to cope or survive. Think about a horse walking over the top of a hill and seeing a wildly fluttering kite being flown by several running, screaming children. Threatened and frightened by this situation, the horse usually throws his head up. This posture activates the adrenal glands and over-stimulates the horse's entire nervous system. As long as the horse's head is high and the neck and back muscles are tensed, adrenalin will pump into the blood stream, the blood is drawn away from the extremities to support the heart and lungs in preparation for flight. One way to override this chemical countdown is to lower the head and normalize the breathing. It is for this reason that we pay so much attention to posture. Biofeedback Research Brainwave-biofeedback equipment has been used to monitor horses during TTEAM work. The data indicates that a horse is more likely to access the thinking part of his brain when he has his head in a relaxed position. For a young horse or a horse who is being re-schooled accepting these cues from the ground can be the first step to getting him to respond under saddle. Freeze Reflex While fight -flight is recognized, the freeze reflex is rarely considered. Think of what happens when a horse sees something in the distance, the head goes up, the horse freezes and often so does the handler. This is often the precursor to flight. There is a chemical released in the brain that causes the horse to freeze and the synapses stop firing. At this time, if we stroke the underside of the neck and front legs with the wand it helps start the synapses firing, helps to activate the triple warmer meridian (which activates the parasympathetic nervous system) and lowers the head. It also helps the handler start breathing and thinking instead of reacting. We often see a "freeze" response, labeled by some people, as the horse being "stubborn" or "unwilling". This may happen when a horse is saddled or mounted and he stands stock-still as if "frozen" to the ground. At this point the horse is usually holding his breath and when the rider insists the horse go forward, the horse shoots forward or explodes bucking. The horse may become labeled as "needing an attitude adjustment". Fool Around or Fidget It was in the dog world that I first heard the term "fool around" used. You can think of dogs you have known that would respond to some situations by rolling on the floor or just "fooling around". It is a form of displacement behavior - taking the focus off of one situation onto another. For instance, if you are trying to groom some dogs, they may roll on the floor and grab the brush in play. It is a way of displaying concern that is often not identified because the dog is not shaking nor is the dog growling or biting. Some children, and adults, fall into "fooling around" when the pressure is on. I started looking at horse behavior, i.e.: horses who grab the lead line
[IceHorses] The Eyes of the Horse
The Eyes of the Horse by Linda Tellington-Jones TTEAMT Connections July-September, 2005 The eyes of a horse have a special message that give clues to the personality of the individual. It has been said that the eye of a horse is the window to the soul. I believe this is true. I look for attitude in the light in the eyes. Is the horse friendly, trusting, curious, defensive, nervous, aggressive, frightened, introverted, guarded? I'm often asked to look at photographs of horse's heads to give an opinion about their character and behavior. What I love to see is a look of thankfulness. This look is often in the eye of a horse who has been formerly a school horse and is now owned by a private owner who appreciates the horse for its special character. A horse whose eye is hard and distant with no light or warmth coming from the eye, lacks trust and confidence. Sometimes I see hopefulness - a look in the eye that the horse is hopeful that the owner or rider will be understanding and friendly. When I see a look of skepticism or mistrust or fear in a horse's eye it makes me sad to think how the horse has been treated, because so many horses are misunderstood and punished unfairly. There is a special look called "The look of eagles," that I have known in a few very good racehorses who won a lot and knew they were champions. The look is a little distant and detached and often hard, as though they look through you or beyond you. Such horses are usually independent and self-confident and may get along only with one special person. The famous American Thoroughbred gelding, John Henry, often had that look in his eye. The shape of a horse's eye has an influence on personality. "Personality" is a collection of qualities - the total of the body, mind and social characteristics and the behaviors of an individual. When the eye is large and open with the skin around the eye soft and supple, this gives a friendly look. These horses are generally intelligent and want to learn. If the eye is bulging and the skin around it tight, this gives a stressed, fearful look. This type of horse tends to be nervous, spooky and learns slowly. A horse with an almond shaped eye is usually trusting and friendly. Small eyes usually indicate a horse who is hard to train and will show little interest in people. When the eye is set higher than normal on the head, this horse will often be a little slow to learn. One of the most difficult eye forms is when the eyes are set so much on the side of the head, that when you stand directly in front of the horse, you cannot see much of the eyes. This is rare, but the horses I have known with such form, usually spook and may spin and bolt when another horse approaches them from the front in a warm-up ring at a horse show. I believe such horses cannot see clearly what is coming head on. This can be dangerous in traffic. Sometimes the eyes will look perfect although the horse may have inadequate vision. I've known horses I believe had poor depth perception which made them spooky and reactive, but you could not tell by the shape of their eyes. I think one of the most interesting cases was a young mare who was said to be very stubborn. When she was sent for training as a three-year-old, she refused to go forward when she was lead out of the pasture even if she was hit with a whip. When I observed the mare in the pasture with another horse she always followed a gelding with her nose close to his hindquarters. It turned out that she was almost blind and simply did not feel confident moving forward on her own. There was no obvious difference in the look of her eye. So much of the time, when a horse refuses to do what we ask, there is a physical or psychological reason they do not respond. I've seen the shape and the look in horses eyes change when they understood what was being asked, and when the rider or owner of the horse developed an understanding and respected the individuality of the horse. Of course, the eye is only one of the ways of evaluating character. The shape and set of the ears, length of the mouth, the form of the chin, the profile, thickness of the nose, position of swirls on the head, all have an influence on personality and behavior. You can learn much about your horse and others by being observant and developing your own eye for horses. This will pay off over many years by giving you a key to understand the personality and behavior of horses. The following book and Video/DVD expands on Linda's evaluation of personalities: Getting In TTOUCH - Understand and Influence Your Horses Personality Hit It Off with Your Horse: Understanding and Influencing Character and Personality Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com
[IceHorses] Feeding by Weight
By Kathy:I would like to encourage people to feed hay by weight. Get a little infant scale and weigh your hay each time you feed. I buy hay from the same grower every year and I can tell you that every single bale is a bit different in weight, even from the same cutting. If I'm feeding 7 lbs of hay at a feed, then sometimes that's one flake and sometimes it's one and a half depending on the bale. Just when I think I can eyeball 7 lbs of hay I'll pick up what I think it is, weigh it and find that I can be off by as much as 2-3 pounds. Right now I'm feeding the horse at my place 8 lbs of grass hay per feed and she's fed twice a day. Another mare will get fat on that, so that one usually gets about 6 1/2 - 7 lbs per feed. And then you have to factor in whether the horse is working or idle and adjust the amount according to that, or the time of year (snow, cold, rain, etc.). Hope this helps. Kathy
Re: [IceHorses] O/T - Does this pup match my new saddle?
Oh come on you guys - I not only have a grandhorse, I have two great grandhorses. Nancy
Re: [IceHorses] My Videos
Try Firefox, it's free and is supposed to have less vulnerabilities than > IE: > > Oh no! I just spent the afternoon deleting stuff off my hard drive. I > don't have room to load one more package! (I had Firefox, but it had to > go.) Well, then, you'll have to update IE! :-) Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com
RE: [IceHorses] My Videos
>>> Try Firefox, it's free and is supposed to have less vulnerabilities than IE: Oh no! I just spent the afternoon deleting stuff off my hard drive. I don't have room to load one more package! (I had Firefox, but it had to go.) Karen Karen Thomas Wingate, NC No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.6/938 - Release Date: 8/5/2007 4:16 PM
Re: [IceHorses] My Videos
> What browser are you using? Donna said the same thing, but she was > using IE 6. > > I use IE6. Probably IE 6 doesn't have the RSS capabilities as the updated versions. Try Firefox, it's free and is supposed to have less vulnerabilities than IE: http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/ Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com
RE: [IceHorses] My Videos
What browser are you using? Donna said the same thing, but she was using IE 6. I use IE6. Karen Karen Thomas Wingate, NC No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.6/938 - Release Date: 8/5/2007 4:16 PM
Re: [IceHorses] My Videos
> Subscribe to the icehorses videos (my videos): > http://www.youtube.com/rss/user/icehorses/videos.rss > > Judy, I just got a page of HTML code when I clicked on that link...? What browser are you using? Donna said the same thing, but she was using IE 6. I usually use Firefox, but I opened IE 7 and it showed up in regular text (as did Firefox), with thumbnails of the videos, and a subscribe button at the top. Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com
Re: [IceHorses] another snaffle or just bit question
>To find the right bit fit how much should be hanging >out of the sides of their mouth? Any at all. I have >always been a hackamore girl. I am not sure if he >takes a 5" or a 41/2" My two use a standard Icelandic size bitless bridle made by Kaaren's husband. They are more relaxed and responsive, easier to stop on the trail in case of a spook, and I don't have to worry what size the bits should be or in what way they are making my horses uncomfortable. Sue
RE: [IceHorses] My Videos
Subscribe to the icehorses videos (my videos): http://www.youtube.com/rss/user/icehorses/videos.rss Judy, I just got a page of HTML code when I clicked on that link...? Another way to subscribe is to go to one of Judy's videos, like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lq9bG1tqKbw&mode=user&search= and click on the "Subscribe" button. If you have an account and are logged in, that should do it - not sure what is required if you don't have an account. Karen Karen Thomas Wingate, NC No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.6/938 - Release Date: 8/5/2007 4:16 PM
RE: [IceHorses] O/T - Does this pup match my new saddle?
Ah Karen...but I have seven grand fish... Ok...I don't have any grandfish, but I have three grandcats and two grandparrots. But then, we have custody of the grandcats and the grandparrots, so that's not really so grand... (Sarah, the Siamese barn cat is actually Emily's, as are Ernie the Conure and Crackers the blue and gold macaw.) How many grandhorses? Karen Karen Thomas Wingate, NC No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.6/938 - Release Date: 8/5/2007 4:16 PM
RE: [IceHorses] O/T - Does this pup match my new saddle?
>>> Was the maltipoo the girl in the sweater? The sweater and the pink hair bow - but then, what would you expect from a Malti-poo... Karen Karen Thomas Wingate, NC No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.6/938 - Release Date: 8/5/2007 4:16 PM
Re: [IceHorses] O/T - Does this pup match my new saddle?
On 06/08/07, Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You're getting behind, Wanda. Cary and I already have three granddogs: > Kelsey, Stella, and Annie. Kelsey is the new little fluff ball in the > pictures from yesterday. She's a Maltipoo. (I can't believe I just admitted > that!) Stella is a Cocker Spaniel, and Little Orphan Annie is some sort of > Golden Retriever mix pound puppy. Ah Karen...but I have seven grand fish... Was the maltipoo the girl in the sweater? Wanda
Re: [IceHorses] IceHorses Community
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[IceHorses] Maja videos - first ride
Ok, this is really getting boring, so please don't feel you have to watch these. I just noticed that Cary made a few short videos of Maja's first ride - just before he took the series of still pictures yesterday. I'm making a whole video log of her progress, to save to review next winter when it's too cold to do much else. If anyone wants to look, here you go: http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=BE0BACBAA673868C Karen Karen Thomas Wingate, NC No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.6/938 - Release Date: 8/5/2007 4:16 PM
[IceHorses] IceHorses Community
Here's our IceHorses Community, for photos and videos: http://kickapps.com/icehorses The video that's currently on that home page, is of me visiting a friend's Icelandic Horse. Please feel free to join the community and upload some pictures and videos. Nancy, Stephanie can have her own account there, as well; and Virginia, Alex can, too. Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com
Re: [IceHorses] another snaffle or just bit question
> To find the right bit fit how much should be hanging > out of the sides of their mouth? Any at all. I have > always been a hackamore girl. I am not sure if he > takes a 5" or a 41/2" Icelandic heads are sometimes small, sometimes large! I don't think there's a general rule about what size bit they take. Ljufur could wear a 5 inch; Charm's mother only a 4 ½. Do you have different size bits to try in his mouth? For a snaffle, I would suggest a double jointed mouthpiece (not the single jointed), something like a french link (not Dr. Bristol), eggbutt or D-ring. Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com
RE: [IceHorses] O/T - Does this pup match my new saddle?
Lori, yes, the pup is an Australian Shepherd. I guess she's our grand dog. You're getting behind, Wanda. Cary and I already have three granddogs: Kelsey, Stella, and Annie. Kelsey is the new little fluff ball in the pictures from yesterday. She's a Maltipoo. (I can't believe I just admitted that!) Stella is a Cocker Spaniel, and Little Orphan Annie is some sort of Golden Retriever mix pound puppy. Karen Karen Thomas Wingate, NC No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.6/938 - Release Date: 8/5/2007 4:16 PM
RE: [IceHorses] another snaffle or just bit question
I think there is a bit-measuring goodie out there. Someone probably knows. Our Icelandics use a 4 1/2 and a 4 3/4. A 5" would be too wide for them. If you took English lessons, then you know that when the snaffle is too wide, it has even more of the nutcracker action that people complain of. That's right. You don't want a bit so narrow that it rubs the corners of the mouth, but if it's too wide, the edges won't be supported by the bars, and thus the center will tend to poke the roof of the mouth and pinch the tongue. I like for the bits to be just barely wide enough not to rub. I have a couple of Icelandic's that can use 5" bits, but most of mine use 4.5" and 4 3/4" too. Sina can use a 4 1/4" if necessary. Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [IceHorses] My Videos
Judy, what did I do wrong? I got a page full of what is not exactly programming language, but isn't anything that would allow me to subscribe to anything. Nancy
Re: [IceHorses] another snaffle or just bit question
Wanda - you're so smart! Nancy
Re: [IceHorses] Neck ring question for Robyn H
For one of the Robyn's - I also printed out the article. Can one of you send the website address for the lariat neck ring? I am so lazy. Nancy
Re: [IceHorses] another snaffle or just bit question
I think there is a bit-measuring goodie out there. Someone probably knows. Our Icelandics use a 4 1/2 and a 4 3/4. A 5" would be too wide for them. If you took English lessons, then you know that when the snaffle is too wide, it has even more of the nutcracker action that people complain of. Nancy
Re: [IceHorses] snaffles
--- Lorraine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I just wanted to walk. In my > appinion a snaffle is worthless to slow or stop a > horse in my experience. Am I doing something wrong. > > My wrists are so sore from slowing him down. > Try not to give him anything to pull against. Sometimes I have to close and release my hands (both hands together) several times in a row (quickly) to get my gelding's attention. The release part is very important. -Kristen Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center. http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/
[IceHorses] Dagur is dappleing
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Re: [IceHorses] another snaffle or just bit question
On 06/08/07, Lorraine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > To find the right bit fit how much should be hanging > out of the sides of their mouth? Any at all. I have > always been a hackamore girl. I am not sure if he > takes a 5" or a 41/2" Take a lead rope and pop it in his mouth, and hold it on either side right against the sides of his mouth with your fingers. Take the rope out and measure between your fingers (or have someone else measure)...when you have that measurement, add a half inch (to give him 1/4 of room on either side). That's how I learned to do it... Wanda
Re: [IceHorses] snaffles
On 06/08/07, Lorraine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thanks. That sounds good. It is work thought. I > didn't realize how much it would be. When I turn him > around he hard to get going the other way. When my > friend comes back for the winter it will be easier to > work with him You know Lori, another thing you can do is you can ride him, while a friend or your hubby comes along for a walk on the ground. The person on the ground can help set the pace on the way home. Wanda
RE: [IceHorses] Levelness of the Saddle
> > There are still so many different opinions about > saddle fit, as there always > will be, but listening to the horse goes a long way > IME (in my experience). > I am really learning alot about it. Especially since I have purchased Icelandics. Thanks for explaining IME. I am learning all those intials. Whatever you call it. LOL Happy Trails from Lorraine Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/222
Re: [IceHorses] My Videos
That is neat. Is that your new horse. Or are you just boarding Cha Cha. He or she is very pretty. I want a pinto next time. Why are you working with the wheel chair? Happy Trails from Lorraine Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7
Re: [IceHorses] survival ideas
On 8/6/07, Robyn Hood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Janice, > The hay shortage in Florida is so sad, I have a friend in Oklahoma who has > so much hay they can't get cut all they have as they don't know where to > sell it to. > This is how it is for us here this year too. But a few years ago, I was afraid that I wouldn't find any, and we paid $8/small bale that year. I was ready to feed cubes. This year I found nice grass hay for $5/bale, and there's plenty of it. On that dry year tho, there ended up being enough hay to go around b/c a number of truckers brought loads in from elsewhere to sell. Janice, maybe you can rent a flatbed trailer and head out to OK to pick up a load of hay. Robyn S
[IceHorses] Neck ring question for Robyn H
Hi Robyn, I really appreciate the info from yesterday re: using the neck ring/lariat. I printed that out and went ahead and ordered a neck lariat--I'm really excited about using it! I have a question re: the article tho: it's suggested to do a "signal-and-release" when giving cues w/ the neck ring. However, this seems like the release would be rewarding the horse for "not doing anything", as opposed to asking lightly and holding pressure, releasing when there's a response. Thanks, Robyn S -- "Horses and life; it's all the same to me." ~Buck Brannaman
Re: [IceHorses] O/T - Does this pup match my new saddle?
On 06/08/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wanda, Is that a Sensation saddle? Sylvia Yes it is. I can't believe you haven't seen it. I've probably sent 50 or 60 pictures of it :)... Lori, yes, the pup is an Australian Shepherd. I guess she's our grand dog. Wanda
RE: [IceHorses] Svertla Videos
That is so cool. Was she tolting? Mostly in these videos, she was trotting and cantering (and bucking). In a couple of places though, she did a foxtrot and flat walk, but just for a few strides. When she's not quite so wound up, I see her foxtrot in the pasture a good bit. On one video that I didn't post today, she did a few strides of saddle rack. Did anyone notice her head nod, when she speeds up from walk, but before she goes into trot? I think she has potential to do a good running walk. Time will tell. >>>What a pretty place you live. I get sick of cactus Thanks - but I get tired of heat and humidity! Karen Karen Thomas Wingate, NC No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.6/938 - Release Date: 8/5/2007 4:16 PM
Re: [IceHorses] ground driving Dagur
On 06/08/07, Janice McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > so you dont use a bit at all, or even a sidepull? Looks like a > special type of halter. Could I use a sidepull and try it with my > surcingle?? > Janice It's an old cavesson. We havent' started Dagur in a bit much yetso we're keeping it simple. Plus we're using the cavesson mainly because the hardware is narrower and we can fit the rein clips on it a little better than Dagur's regular halter. Until you have a baby going well ground driving, I would keep a bit out of his mouth. There can be a lot of jerky movements until he has things worked out. Wanda
RE: [IceHorses] Levelness of the Saddle
Hi >>>When I first started riding along time ago I just threw a saddle on and went. Who knew that they had to fit. Funny. But it is true. I think that, hopefully, most people could say "if I knew a week, month, year, 10 years ago, what I know now I would do things differently". I have ridden for well over 50 years and it was only about 15-18 years ago that really started to look at saddle fit and then people it was a real novelty. You just put the saddle on, moved it around a bit to see if it was in the 'right' place and as long as it wasn't sitting on the horse's withers, off you went. There are still so many different opinions about saddle fit, as there always will be, but listening to the horse goes a long way IME (in my experience). Robyn Icelandic Horse Farm Robyn Hood & Phil Pretty Vernon BC Canada www.icefarm.com
[IceHorses] another snaffle or just bit question
To find the right bit fit how much should be hanging out of the sides of their mouth? Any at all. I have always been a hackamore girl. I am not sure if he takes a 5" or a 41/2" Happy Trails from Lorraine Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545469
Re: [IceHorses] Svertla
> > Svertla did get a few minutes of play time > yesterday. She's got more energy Very pretty Happy Trails from Lorraine Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. http://mobile.yahoo.com/go?refer=1GNXIC
Re: [IceHorses] American Walking Pony
> > What is an American Walking Pony? Interesting! I'd heard of them before, but was told that they were simply a small-sized TWH--didn't know they were a combo of TWH and Welsh. And "Merry Walk"--what a wonderful description of a gait! Robyn S
Re: [IceHorses] Svertla Videos
--- Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Icelandic's - not that it's a bad thing. It's just > her. > That is so cool. Was she tolting? What a pretty place you live. I get sick of cactus Happy Trails from Lorraine Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. http://travel.yahoo.com/
Re: [IceHorses] snaffles
so best > not let him get away with even a little... > Janice-- > yipie tie yie yo > > Thanks. That sounds good. It is work thought. I didn't realize how much it would be. When I turn him around he hard to get going the other way. When my friend comes back for the winter it will be easier to work with him Happy Trails from Lorraine Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. http://autos.yahoo.com/carfinder/
Re: [IceHorses] Really cool and it has some horses
http://webmail.aol.com/29047/aol/en-us/Mail/get-attachment.aspx?uid=1.18713488&folder=New+Mail&partId=4&saveAs=Double_Vision.pps Laree, that takes us to our own aol webmail do you have another link? Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com
RE: [IceHorses] Svertla Videos
Hi Nancy, >>>Someone made the sensible suggestion that I take some panels out and make mine round, I think it is more sensible to have an oval than a round pen. It means that horses have a chance to learn to go straight and not just in circles. It is easier for a horse to find their balance when they are not always turning. When I lunge horses I often move them in ovals rather than circles as it is also easier on their joints than always being on a curve. Robyn Icelandic Horse Farm Robyn Hood & Phil Pretty Vernon BC Canada www.icefarm.com
Re: [IceHorses] snaffles
> I always hesitate to tell people how to use a > snaffle because sometimes they > end up "sawing" on their horse's mouth. But you > don't want to pull back > with both hands at the same time. I do more of a > hand-closing thing. Left > (briefly) right (briefly). See - I can't explain > it, but I love a snaffle I took english lessons year ago and was taught what you are talking about. It kept my horse's head down for the show. I am not giving up. He is such a sweetie. Happy Trails from Lorraine Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. http://mobile.yahoo.com/go?refer=1GNXIC
RE: [IceHorses] survival ideas
Hi Janice, The hay shortage in Florida is so sad, I have a friend in Oklahoma who has so much hay they can't get cut all they have as they don't know where to sell it to. Strange year - really feast or famine depending on where you are. I really feel for you because before the first hay of this year we had to borrow some bales and that is really scary. Robyn Icelandic Horse Farm Robyn Hood & Phil Pretty Vernon BC Canada www.icefarm.com
[IceHorses] My Videos
Subscribe to the icehorses videos (my videos): http://www.youtube.com/rss/user/icehorses/videos.rss Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com
[IceHorses] New member hello
Hi, My name is Jackie. I have 2 paint 1/4horses that I rode basic dressage before my baby was born. I do not show. I rode mostly for the love of riding. I have owned horses for a very long time. A friend of mine just sent me some pics from Swenden of these Iceland ponies. Now, I am interested in learning more about them. We are planning on buying a pony in a few years when my daughter is old enough. Can anyone tell me a little more about these ponies. Are they easy keeper? How are they around children? Are they gaited? Can you do "basic" english...on the bit..soft rounded back working from behind? What do these ponies cost? Can a 135lb person ride them? I would love to learn more about these ponies before a run out and buy one. I am one of those people that fall in love with their animals and my animals are just a big part of our family.
[IceHorses] Svertla
Karen, Svertla has really turned out to be a beauty!!. Renee ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
Re: [IceHorses] Get plenty of pictures of your horses
i dont have to worry about plenty of pics with jas, he is our "first child" horse and the photos would fill up several truckloads I think. I have tons of older pics of GB since he was jaspars sire i took pics of him thru the years too even tho I didnt own him. as years go by i take less and less tho. There are pitifully few of Nasi and Tivar compared to jaspar. Janice -- yipie tie yie yo
Re: [IceHorses] ground driving Dagur
so you dont use a bit at all, or even a sidepull? Looks like a special type of halter. Could I use a sidepull and try it with my surcingle?? Janice -- yipie tie yie yo
RE: [IceHorses] Levelness of the Saddle
> Not sure where you would have heard that from. Robyn, Carla told me you were mainly into Eng. Thats all. Happy Trails from Lorraine Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7
Re: [IceHorses] snaffles
On 8/6/07, Lorraine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ok. I realize I bought a green horse. I got him away > from the corral. He was great. But I have a feeling > he use to tolt home. I just wanted to walk. In my > appinion a snaffle is worthless to slow or stop a > horse in my experience. Am I doing something wrong. > My wrists are so sore from slowing him down. > > Happy Trails from Lorraine > with my stonewall I had to teach him that he couldnt go home until he went home soft and relaxed. If he got hyped up I would head back down the road. When he calmed and relaxed I would turn him back for home. It took a while but he caught on, i still have to remind him sometime. With my jaspar I can let him "hurry" home because all he does is walk a little more animated and never tries to break into a canter. If he did I would do the same thing I do to stonewall. If I let stonewall get away with it he would be worse the enxt time until before i knew it he was practically racing and having little hissy fits. so best not let him get away with even a little... Janice-- yipie tie yie yo
Re: [IceHorses] Cha Cha
she's awesome! she wasnt a problem horse was she?? if so, hard to believe. she is so much like charm, wanting to explore!-- yipie tie yie yo
Re: [IceHorses] O/T - Does this pup match my new saddle?
--- Wanda Lauscher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I must have a thing about brown... > > Wanda Both pup and saddle are beautiful. Is that an ausie? The pup that is. LOL Cute Happy Trails from Lorraine Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/
Re: [IceHorses] O/T - Does this pup match my new saddle?
In a message dated 8/6/2007 12:50:34 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) Wanda, Is that a Sensation saddle? Sylvia ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
RE: [IceHorses] Levelness of the Saddle
> > Then that makes perfect sense about the saddle not > being used on Scooter. > > Robyn Exactly. No argument here. When I first started riding along time ago I just threw a saddle on and went. Who knew that they had to fit. Funny. But it is true. Happy Trails from Lorraine Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545433
Re: [IceHorses] Svertla Videos
Someone made the sensible suggestion that I take some panels out and make mine round, but most of the time, it's more useful the size it is. Originally, it was the size of a small dressage court. Then, in the years when I wasn't actively riding, I let my husband have the nice flat spot for a small orchard and large garden. I reclaimed the garden spot, but really couldn't ask him to uproot his trees and raspberries. Nancy
RE: [IceHorses] Levelness of the Saddle
> > I think Lori's saddle in that picture is a Barefoot > Arizona, and if so, yes, > it's treeless. Yes it is treeless. It is almost just like a Cheyenne except it has a horn. I think it might be a little longer in back. It is really comtfy. Happy Trails from Lorraine Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow
Re: [IceHorses] survival ideas
thats a good point Karen. here in NW fla deer eat acorns and lichens etc. i find deer tracks in my pasture every day where they come in at nite in ecstasy over a little grass. People bait up deer with sweet feed and corn and they go nuts. Janice-- yipie tie yie yo
RE: [IceHorses] Svertla Videos
>>> Maybe we should trade? I can't imagine either of ours expending that much energy, although Yrsa seems a little more energized than Tosca. She is one of our more energetic Icelandic's. She's pretty calm and sensible, so hopefully that will make for a nice balance and a fun horse- I don't care for energy without a good brain! :) Cary is crazy about Maja, and I was joking that after Maja's next foal is born and weaned, in a little over a year, he and I should start taking Maja and Svertla out on the trails, so we can have "his and hers" matching mares. Svertla is the one who was starved when we got her, and her mane was pretty sparse. I think when it finishes growing in, it will as long and thick as Maja's and their gaits seem pretty similar - both have good trots, but show running walk and foxtrot too. >>> Your round pen looks a little like mine - oval perhaps? I'm actually moving Tosca up the road in a week or so because of their smaller round pen, larger arena and sand sand sand. Yes, it's oval. Normally, it doesn't matter too much because we don't normally use it as a "round pen." We can take a few panels out and make it back round without too much trouble but hopefully, we won't be doing too much along this line. We have something locally called "pit gravel" for footing - not very deep. It's a blend of small, rounded rocks, interspersed with some sand-like particles. There's just enough to keep the mud down when it rains. Obviously, we don't use it all the time, or we wouldn't have as much grass come up as we have. When it cools down, we will move back to our "arena", which is actually a section of the pasture we cross-fenced off. It's about the size of a large dressage arena with grass for footing. Karen Karen Thomas Wingate, NC No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.6/938 - Release Date: 8/5/2007 4:16 PM
Re: [IceHorses] Svertla Videos
Maybe we should trade? I can't imagine either of ours expending that much energy, although Yrsa seems a little more energized than Tosca. Your round pen looks a little like mine - oval perhaps? I'm actually moving Tosca up the road in a week or so because of their smaller round pen, larger arena and sand sand sand. Nancy
[IceHorses] Svertla Videos
These aren't so much training videos, as us watching Svertla run off some energy in the round pen. If you notice, no one is really asking her to move much of the time, but she sort of got caught up in running down the side of the round pen, parallel with the dogs in the backyard - or at least that's all we can figure she was doing. At any rate, she has more energy than some Icelandic's - not that it's a bad thing. It's just her. http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=56249837E599C4AC Karen Karen Thomas Wingate, NC No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.6/938 - Release Date: 8/5/2007 4:16 PM
Re: [IceHorses] snaffles
Of course you are not doing anything wrong. You have a green horse. The response to the snaffle has to be pre-taught, preferably in a round pen or other enclosed area. You probably wouldn't have the control you are looking for with a rope halter or a sidepull either. Many endurance horses are not started untl they are four or five and as a result are frequently taken out on trail quite early in their training. We will sometimes tuck a green horse behind an experienced horse on a narrow trail so that he will learn to settle down without having his mouth pulled on. I always hesitate to tell people how to use a snaffle because sometimes they end up "sawing" on their horse's mouth. But you don't want to pull back with both hands at the same time. I do more of a hand-closing thing. Left (briefly) right (briefly). See - I can't explain it, but I love a snaffle and generally recommend not more bit but more training. This is absolutely not a criticism of you. I understand that his is a new horse and hope that you will give him a chance to become the horse you dreamed of. Nancy
Re: [IceHorses] ground driving Dagur
On 06/08/07, Laree Shulman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > One extra thing we always do the first time they actually pull anything > > is to have it set with a quick release so the assisting person can release > > the object being pulled if they get upset and it looks like it might get out > > of control. We never had to use that by the time we were at that step but I > > do think it's a good safety precaution. > > Good suggestion Laree. I forgot to mention that, the tugs we have are basically like a button hole fitting over a hook. Very easy to release should something unexpected happen. Laree, what other sorts of things do you do for driving? I'm always looking for better ways to do things. Wanda
Re: [IceHorses] Wheel Chair Training Op
Well done, Judy. Probably because we have four wheelchair users in our home, our horses seem to have a non-reaction to the chairs. However, when I took Stephanie to the boarding facility where Hunter lives we got some pretty nice reactions. The majority of the horses there are Arabs and several of them found the power chair quite scarey, even though they are fed from an ATV in the winter. One exception was Tali, my grandson's Arab. He walked up to Stephanie, stretched his pretty Arab head forward and nuzzled her neck. Nancy
Re: [IceHorses] ground driving Dagur
> > > Or as in Gusti's case one winter, we didn't have harness, so we put > the surcingle on him, and then a nice padded western cinch went across > his chest, and from the cinch we attached some lines (no separator) to > either side of him and he dragged the kids and I on a toboggan while > one of us led him... > > One extra thing we always do the first time they actually pull anything is > to have it set with a quick release so the assisting person can release the > object being pulled if they get upset and it looks like it might get out of > control. We never had to use that by the time we were at that step but I do > think it's a good safety precaution. > -- > Laree
