Re: [IceHorses] Happy Holidays!
Mic's pinto in front of him, Cute. He's called Omar, btw. Mic Mic (Michelle) Rushen --- Solva Icelandic Horses and DeMeulenkamp Sweet Itch Rugs: www.solva-icelandics.co.uk --- Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes
RE: [IceHorses] Happy Holidays!
That's Nasi at the wheel, Mic's pinto in front of him, Buck to his side, Charm and Cookie behind the lead who is baby Landi as Rudolph :-) GREAT job, Judy...and doesn't my baby make a cute Rudolph...? Not that I'm biased. ;) Karen Thomas, NC No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.13/1169 - Release Date: 12/3/2007 10:56 PM
[IceHorses] Re:Side saddle
Finding a sidesaddle that fits a widebacked Icelandic was extremely challenging. You definitely don't want to get one off of ebay. Most sidesaddles you find online are older sidesaddles built for horses from long ago when they were much narrower than today's horses. Or...you may find a saddle that is not balanced or even downright dangerous. Fit is even more crucial for a sidesaddle than an astride saddle. I know, I know - fit is important for any saddle, but with an aside saddle, slippage can be a real problem. It took less than five minutes for my gelding to get used to a sidesaddle. Not having any leg on the offside was the only issue - he wasn't sure that I meant go forward when I was just using my left leg. After we worked that out - it was great. What was really interesting was how easy we could do our leg yields and side passing. I think that was because my posture and seat bones were all in a good position. Your hips need to be pointing straightforward when you ride. Do a google search for Marti and Hundred Oaks. This is where I bought my sidesaddle. Marti is extremely helpful. I bought an Elan which is an english style saddle that Marti has made to her specification in Pakistan. I had to buy and XX wide. Marti said that it was the widest sidesaddle she had ever seen in her life. Learning to ride in a sidesaddle is not that difficult - you do feel pretty secure with the two horns and it does wonders for your posture. I am much more fearful of trying to figure out how to sew one of those sidesaddle aprons that the aside ladies wear. They use aprons instead of skirts. I bought a pattern for the apron and I am terrified of even pulling it out of the package. I haven't sewed anything since 7th grade Home Ec. Cindy
Re: [IceHorses] Happy Holidays!
On 12/3/07, Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Happy Holidays from the IceRyder Reindeer! Oh my gosh, Judy!! How clever Laree in NC Doppa Mura Simon, Sadie and Sam (the S gang) Yet when all the books have been read and reread, it boils down to the horse, his human companion, and what goes on between them. - William Farley
Re: [IceHorses] Landslides
i guess whether you believe in global warming or not you pretty much have to admit the climate is weird! Janice -- yipie tie yie yo
Re: [IceHorses] adobe photoshop
does anyone know how in photoshop to take the head off something and put it on someone elses body? Ready? yes. -- yipie tie yie yo
Re: [IceHorses] Happy Holidays!
That's Nasi at the wheel, Mic's pinto in front of him, Buck to his side, Charm and Cookie behind the lead who is baby Landi as Rudolph :-) Please feel free to forward, or to reprint as a holiday card. oh my gosh how did you do that!!?!! Thats so AWESOME. I think one passes for Tivar too :) I will try and get some card stock and see if i can make a christmas card out of it! janice -- yipie tie yie yo
Re: [IceHorses] OT - trail class
wow that looked so fun! Janice -- yipie tie yie yo
Re: [IceHorses] Happy Holidays!
i wonder if judy could help me do one of those of my neice flying over karens house riding a broom with a witch hat on her head. that would be a nice christmas card for me to send out to the whole family. not that I am bitter about that thanksgiving incident. gosh maybe i need to work on my christmas spirit... Janice-- yipie tie yie yo
[IceHorses] storms
wanda are you in a blizzard?? janice -- yipie tie yie yo
[IceHorses] Re: white hairs on back
Hi All: Dana Johnsen has said many , many times to all of us dealers that it is not a good idea to ride free swing for any length of time because of the decreased ability to spread the weight of the stirrups the rider. Hard use OR endurance leathers is the way the saddle was best designed according to Dana in order to maximize comfort for the horse. For those who choose to ride free swing in the Sensation, Dana has told me more times than I would like to count that you do so at your horse's risk. As more people are using the Sensations for longer periods of time or jumping, Dana has had reports of issues developing under the butterfly using free swing for longer ride times/frequent riding on the same horse. As Karen Thomas mentioned, a lot is dependant on the rider biomechanics. I'm sure it is possible for those of you riding shorter/infrequent times on different horses, with good rider balance to be ok, but those are a lot of variables. Why tempt fate when Dana has done extensive testing on the way it was designed to be used. I'm sure Melissa or Dana would be happy to explain to those want further info on this. Call her direct in Canada on this subject. Kaaren
Re: [IceHorses] Happy Holidays!
That's Nasi at the wheel, Mic's pinto in front of him, Buck to his side, Charm and Cookie behind the lead who is baby Landi as Rudolph :-) Oh I am sure I saw Dagur and Scooter in the group. Lorraine Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See how. http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [IceHorses] adobe photoshop
does anyone know how in photoshop to take the head off something and put it on someone elses body? That is discusting. LOL Lorraine Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See how. http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [IceHorses] 1st time to scrub in
Gosh, I wish some of these places would video these surgeries! I bet some of those types of videos are available but not to the general public - either because they think there wouldn't be an interest or they worry that someone might try this at home. I think they would be fascinating. -- Laree in NC Doppa Mura Simon, Sadie and Sam (the S gang) Yet when all the books have been read and reread, it boils down to the horse, his human companion, and what goes on between them. - William Farley
Re: [IceHorses] 1st time to scrub in
maybe she can save you some bucks:) I'm counting on it, Janice. :-)) -- Laree in NC Doppa Mura Simon, Sadie and Sam (the S gang) Yet when all the books have been read and reread, it boils down to the horse, his human companion, and what goes on between them. - William Farley
Re: [IceHorses] Re: white hairs on back
On 12/4/07, Kaaren Jordan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All: a lot is dependant on the rider biomechanics. I'm sure it is possible for those of you riding shorter/infrequent times on different horses, with good rider balance to be ok, but those are a lot of variables. i have a problem in that area! ! When Teev trots fast or canters it scares me because i feel wobbly. The saddle does not slip when we are going, does not even slip when mounting now that I got a good breast strap. But I dont seem to be able to ever feel part of the horse like I do with other treed saddles. I have never brought this up because i felt it would draw criticism of the sensation or other treeless saddles and its not the saddle, its ME. I cant ever feel secure in a dressage saddle either because the stirrups are too free moving. I suspect it has something to do with the way I use my feet in the stirrups when going? but in my orthoflex I just hold on with my legs and feel actually a part of the horse. Teev is very very in tune with ME and whenever I get wobbly he immediately drops back down into a walk. I guess you could say he is taking care of me but more likely us since my sudden lurching could make him go off balance. The other day when trotting fast and about to canter and going up a slight long incline hill I stood in the stirrups and grabbed mane like my CTR friend says to do, swayed a little to the side and he immediately dropped into a walk, sensing I was losing balance. In my orthoflex on Jaspar he can canter up a hill and go around a hairpin and i am part of him, stonewall too. and in my bona allen saddle too. but in the sensation there is enough give and plushness to it that i havent yet gotten the hang of balancing at speed or with sudden turns. altho the fixed stirrups are a huge improvement. Tivar is not spooky so its ok, but Fox needs a wide tree and I would like to ride him in the sensation but i am nervous when i do because he is basically green and when I had my bad fall off stonewall it was in the trail sensation. (he whirled) Janice -- yipie tie yie yo
Re: [IceHorses] Landslides
In a message dated 12/4/2007 7:22:19 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) Yes, I have to agree, people that made it through the fires here now are going to have to survive the mud slides. I was talking to a lady that works over at the Senior Center, I did volunteer with, yesterday. I asked how the seniors made it through the fires and she said many lost their homes. One of the ladies that did not burn had her house disappear the other night under a mud slide, gone. I personally live on a granite hill and it has not moved ever. The people that are in cut our areas that their pads have been built up are in real trouble. The more water we get the worse it will be for those that live in the bare areas that lost trees and scrub. It looks like a moon scape here, bare black hills everywhere with sticks that used to be trees. I think global warming is evolutionary and we are not at the end times its just ongoing. My opinion, that will start a thread. Sylvia **Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop000301)
Re: [IceHorses] adobe photoshop
Ready? yes. OK, open up the main photo, the one with the body that you want to use. Then open up the photo with the head that you want to use. Find your Lasso Tool and use it along the edges of the head. There's a start and a finish and those ends need to be connected to stop the tool and end up with your desired image. Copy this to your clipboard. Go to the main photo, and paste the head on this picture. You should be able to move the head into position. If it's not the right size, you can use the Transform tool to make it larger or smaller. Transform: http://softwarehelp.magnify.net/item/VP8J1VDB3GYQYBKL Let me know if you can get this far. Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com
Re: [IceHorses] Where is Nasi
On 12/4/07, Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nasi is hiding from Janice again he likes to travel the world, and she tries to find him! Where is Nasi? HAHAHA!! I LOVE it!! that is just like him too! hiding in the bushes from me, but I see he has on his shades cause his future is so bright :) Janice -- yipie tie yie yo
RE: [IceHorses] Happy Holidays!
Very good Judy - thanks Icelandic Horse Farm Robyn Hood Phil Pretty Vernon BC Canada www.icefarm.com -
[IceHorses] a season for giving
it is time for us to do something GOOD you guys!! I am thinking of all the money spent on things this time of year, christmas candy, cakes and pies and donuts and for excesses we are all so fortunate to have... but a woman lives down the street from me who has three children under age ten and lives in one of those old egg shaped camper trailers with a generator and a childs playhouse attached to the front to add an extra room. I also know someone whose husband just left her, she has four kids and a horse and we have been giving her hay when we can but i know she is in a struggle to make ends meet and it would be nice to do something for her children. I know many of you, all of you, must be aware of similar situations!! I also know Judy tried in the past to set up an iceryder pajama fund where we send money or pajamas to be delivered to needy children, children who may not even have pajamas. I know the ones down the street from me dont, at least not good ones, because one morning I passed by and saw the children outside in their underwear and it was really early. Could we set up a way Judy, to send donations to iceryder or send actual pajamas for the Oprah pajama fund? I am taking gift baskets and pajamas to the needy people i just mentioned and i was thinking of having Tivar deliver them and take pics so when we give the money and pajamas we have collected to the oprah fund we can all send with it pics of our icelandics delivering pajamas to kids... can we set something like this up Judy? It is really stupid for me to spend money on donuts and candy this time of year when so much good could be done. janice -- yipie tie yie yo
Re: [IceHorses] Happy Holidays!
Very good Judy - thanks Robyn, if you have a picture of your place in snow, and some of your favorite horses running, I could make a personalized IceFarm card for you. Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com
Re: [IceHorses] storms
On 04/12/2007, Janice McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wanda are you in a blizzard?? janice No, nothing quite as strong as a blizzard Wanda
Re: [IceHorses] adobe photoshop
On Tue, 4 Dec 2007 07:26:27 -0800 (PST), you wrote: does anyone know how in photoshop to take the head off something and put it on someone elses body? Didn't they already do that in real life with Posh Spice aka Victoria Beckham? Sure looks like it! Mic Mic (Michelle) Rushen --- Solva Icelandic Horses and DeMeulenkamp Sweet Itch Rugs: www.solva-icelandics.co.uk --- Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes
[IceHorses] help with Icies wanted
From a friend who lives in the English Lake District (actually the inventor of the Trapezius saddle) : From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 16:55:51 - Hi All, Does anyone know of a person wishing to work with Icies from mid January to at least the end of March/middle of April?? We could do with some help here. The chores would be the usual picking up loads of poo at regular intervals but there would also be the opportunity to ride and help with the development of the horses, young and not so young. We would provide comfortable accom with plenty of good food and regular riding lessons. Please pass this on wherever you think might be able to help. Many thanks - Janice www.icelandichorses.co.uk Mic (Michelle) Rushen --- Solva Icelandic Horses and DeMeulenkamp Sweet Itch Rugs: www.solva-icelandics.co.uk --- Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes
Re: [IceHorses] storms
On Dec 4, 2007 11:10 AM, Janice McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wanda are you in a blizzard?? janice I'm in a blizzard. Moncton seems to have the worst of the whole Atlantic provinces. Going on 40 cm wet snow and still falling... V NB Canada
RE: [IceHorses] Re: white hairs on back/treeless saddles-long
i have a problem in that area! ! When Teev trots fast or canters it scares me because i feel wobbly. sensing I was losing balance. In my orthoflex on Jaspar he can canter up a hill and go around a hairpin and i am part of him, stonewall too. i am nervous when i do because he is basically green and when I had my bad fall off stonewall it was in the trail sensation. (he whirled) Janice, I share the same problem, when I got hurt it was my draft and he would counter canter and over extend his back end in canter, both problems as well as drop his head to propell his front end into trot as drafts when being trained in saddle are not very strong in the rear for collection, not that they don't get that way but they are very wobbly when getting started and I was not the best at balance with his gaits and got hurt pretty bad. I do not ride him in a treeless as I don't ride him as much as the 3 iceys who even at trot are very easy to be more of a passenger than a rider, even my green icey is easier than my draft. I have to ride a trot at least 5-10 minutes to get into rhythm with his so I can post, and finally, he has a little wither so I can keep the saddle centered if it is treed I find myself tipping sideways even a little, and I make him lead on trail rides to get him less spooky instead of mindlessly following, seems to decrease his adrenaline reaction to anything we run across on trails if it is just his response rather than all the horses around his field of vision. I don't take him away on large groupings to ride as I can't always keep his attention and he does bolt when afraid, not pleasant. I will eventually take him to these kinds of rides but he is now 7 and this is the first year I can tell he is maturing and learning, so I can get him to hear me when I am on him. Then icelandics are so smooth that I don't have to work as hard when I ride and I like the way I feel them under the treeless, I use the Torsion. My iceys are witherless, I call them sausages with legs, and if they make sudden change in direction I have to grab mane, to recenter or potentially go off, which I have plenty of times when wildlife pops up and we are going too fast for my legs to hold on. I also put too much pressure in my stirrups when I ride and need to do more of what Karen mentioned about riding the faster gaits without stirrups in my ring until I find a better seat, I have been just so relaxed at riding with friends that I don't spend time improving myself, I become a passenger on my horses way more than I should and don't do them justice carrying my big rear around without working on this. None of my friends ride treeless and it is because they say it isn't secure enough for them, won't even try it when I have made the offer. I think they have felt the same insecurity that I have on my draft and they don't want to lose that control or the appearance of it. Jeannette
Re: [IceHorses] adobe photoshop
does anyone know how in photoshop to take the head off something and put it on someone elses body? Didn't they already do that in real life with Posh Spice aka Victoria Beckham? Sure looks like it! i would like to put my head on her body and my name on her bank account haha Janice -- yipie tie yie yo
[IceHorses] OT-chickens
hey you guys there are list newsgroups for people who like to swap hatching eggs and for people who sell hatching eggs. I am going to get 3 emu eggs! I am so excited!! I cant wait to get film of an emu living with Teev and Noss! will that be cool or what. Only I would hope it would not peck any horses in the eye. Janice -- yipie tie yie yo
Re: [IceHorses] Did I enjoy Aftrica
On Nov 30, 2007 3:14 PM, Ann Cassidy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kissing a giraffe is pretty much fun! Ann The middle pic is exactly as you described and my favorite!!! Ferne
Re: [IceHorses] I did enjoy Africa!
On Nov 30, 2007 3:19 PM, Ann Cassidy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I rode the donkeys about 1/2 hour a day which helped. We went to one village where I was on a donkey and these Maasai ladies ran up to us all excited, my donkey went toward one and she ran away screaming and I thought she was afraid of the donkey. Turns out they had never seen white people before and it was me that terrified her. You didn't tell me you had frightened the natives!?! The donkeys look about the same size as Jack... Ferne
[IceHorses] Re: white hairs on back
Dana Johnsen has said many , many times to all of us dealers that it is not a good idea to ride free swing for any length of time because of the decreased ability to spread the weight of the stirrups the rider. Hard reports of issues developing under the butterfly using free swing for longer ride times/frequent riding on the same horse. I can't figure this out myself, never heard of it before. What is to ride free swing or using free swing Is this something just relating to the Sensation saddle? Thanks Monica Ontario
Re: [IceHorses] OT-chickens
Only I would hope it would not peck any horses in the eye. Janice - if they are anything like ostriches, the least of your worries would be the pecking - an ostrich kick could easily break a horses leg. -- Laree in NC Doppa Mura Simon, Sadie and Sam (the S gang) Yet when all the books have been read and reread, it boils down to the horse, his human companion, and what goes on between them. - William Farley
Re: [IceHorses] Re: white hairs on back
On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 09:28:34AM -0600, Janice McDonald wrote: i have a problem in that area! ! When Teev trots fast or canters it scares me because i feel wobbly. The saddle does not slip when we are going, does not even slip when mounting now that I got a good breast strap. But I dont seem to be able to ever feel part of the horse like I do with other treed saddles. I have never brought this up because i felt it would draw criticism of the sensation or other treeless saddles and its not the saddle, its ME. a couple suggestions, not to do with saddles but exercises i've found that help with this sort of feeling: . try using a neck strap, esp. at the trot where your horse's head is stable, to stabilize your hands. sometimes that's all it takes, is a steady point of reference you can touch or hang on to :) . (this is harder but a *fantastic* exercise) go up in half seat, and starting at slow trot, let your bum move from side to side as if you had a tail to wag with each stride your horse takes. this will put you in a purposeful, controlled wobble just in time with the sway in your horse's stride. then try a faster trot and see if it helps -- sometimes i put myself into half seat for just a few strides to get it at fast trot, and can then return to posting -- i can't sit stjarni's fast trot at all :) . half-seat at canter -- again, let your seat bob (more than wobble, it's the nature of the canter to be more back-and-forth, rocking-horse style) while you rest your hands on the withers or hold a neck strap. try just a few strides at first. i found this really helps! the half-seat exercises especially will tend to set your lower leg properly and securely in the stirrups. it's not standing up in the stirrups -- as your front comes forward, your behind goes backwards, so your upper body's center of gravity remains directly above your heels. (there's a terrific illustration of this in centered riding, and this is i think why what i call half seat is also called two point, though i've heard other derivations for that term too.) i and my students have all tried all of these in the sensation (back when we were using the first one) and they really helped. good luck to you with yours! hope this helps, --vicka
Re: [IceHorses] Re: white hairs on back
On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 06:02:02PM -, Monica wrote: What is to ride free swing or using free swing Is this something just relating to the Sensation saddle? yes, there are several ways to attach the stirrups on the sensation. i was previously using free swing because with my short legs and my short students, the sensation dressage flap we had was too long for the other ways to be comfortable, especially in half-seat or over fences. i have since trialed (and just got, though i haven't tried it yet!) a different-model sensation with shorter flaps, which allows me to use a different way of stirrup attachment (i think hard use) that spreads the riders weight through the saddle more. (kaaren please correct if any of the above is inaccurate/inadequate?) --vicka
RE: [IceHorses] OT-chickens
I am so excited!! I cant wait to get film of an emu living with Teev and Noss! will that be cool or what. Cool stuff, I had a woman come to my farm years ago to hire my geese to sit her eggs she bought. I couldn't charge her anything and they didn't hatch, but she bought them from someone saying they were fertile and she just had to keep them warm and turned. Also got a call from a neighbor last night to say some loose chickens about a mile from my farm. My husband told our boys and gave them 2 nets, off they went to bring home two hens and two roosters, they must have been blown to our farms from the 40-50mph winds we had yesterday. Not much relief of winds today.
RE: [IceHorses] Iceland
--- Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Somewhere I also read that Iceland has an extremely high per capita consumption of alcohol...so that may explain part of the happiness. I guess they have to do what they can though to make it through those LONG, COLD winters. winter Olympic ceremony, the announcer read that Iceland had the highest percentage of all-night bars and discos of any country in the world.. Karen Wow, sounds A LOT like one of Americas states, Alaska. Skye Fire Island Eco-Treks-808-443-6085 Fire Island Professional Farrier Service-640-6080
Re: [IceHorses] Snow pix
Very beautiful, Virginia. I do love snow - in your yard, or Wanda's. Nancy
Re: [IceHorses] Can You Turn Your Horse Without the Reins
On Dec 2, 2007 9:06 PM, Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://youtube.com/watch?v=mgcqbWqZL_Q And here's the 'Blooper' to show how difficult it can be: http://youtube.com/watch?v=4wYNBlZEQeE V
[IceHorses] Snow pix
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Re: [IceHorses] Snow pix
On Dec 4, 2007 3:26 PM, Nancy Sturm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Very beautiful, Virginia. I do love snow - in your yard, or Wanda's. I've uploaded some photos to Kodak hubby took when he went out to shovel...the invite to view them should show up soon. I do hope the snow will melt.. V
Re: [IceHorses] Snow pix
It is truly beautiful. When do you move into your new home? Nancy IceHorses Community for Photos and Videos: http://kickapps.com/icehorses The greatest enemy of the truth very often is not the lie- deliberate, contrived and dishonest -- but the myth -- persistent, persuasive and unrealistic. All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. ~ Arthur Schopenhauer [] Lee Ziegler http://leeziegler.com [] Liz Graves http://lizgraves.com [] Lee's Book Easy Gaited Horses http://tinyurl.com/7vyjo [] IceHorses Map http://www.frappr.com/IceHorses Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IceHorses/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IceHorses/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [IceHorses] Snow pix
On Dec 4, 2007 4:44 PM, Nancy Sturm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is truly beautiful. When do you move into your new home? The owners move out on December 15th, so we can move in any time after thatI may want to do some painting first before all our stuff gets moved over though. Our fencing project is stalleddarn snow. We have all the posts and the company we hired couldn't do the job on Monday (need a different truck or something) so now they'll come do the work the next 'nice' day--the ground hasn't been frozen too deep yet so I'm hoping it can still be done. I'm getting stressed... V
RE: [IceHorses] Iceland
--- Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought it really odd that's what their Olympic opening ceremony blurb was about - after all, the Olympics are supposed to be about dedication to sports and physical fitness, not about bars and discos. Karen Thomas, NC It is really odd, mabye they should hire better announcers that can keep it focused on sports...the announcers could have used that time to talk about what Icelandic people have done for centuries, riding Icelandic horses, which is a sport. Another reason we no longer have TV in our cabin...media crap. Skye Fire Island Eco-Treks-808-443-6085 Fire Island Professional Farrier Service-640-6080
Re: [IceHorses] Re: white hairs on back/treeless saddles-long
. None of my friends ride treeless and it is because they say it isn't secure enough for them, won't even try it when I have made the offer. I think they have felt the same insecurity that I have on my draft and they don't want to lose that control or the appearance of it. Jeannette thanks jeannette, that was very helpful. I am going to try the arena thing. janice -- yipie tie yie yo
Re: [IceHorses] OT-chickens
On 12/4/07, Laree Shulman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Only I would hope it would not peck any horses in the eye. Janice - if they are anything like ostriches, the least of your worries would be the pecking - an ostrich kick could easily break a horses leg. oh my gosh! a man down the street has one in with some goats and some horses and minis. It just grazes and stares over the fence. Janice-- yipie tie yie yo
Re: [IceHorses] storms
I'm in a blizzard. Moncton seems to have the worst of the whole Atlantic provinces. Going on 40 cm wet snow and still falling... how many inches V ?? I have always wanted to go there since i read the book The Shipping News. Janice -- yipie tie yie yo
Re: [IceHorses] Snow pix
its like a dream! wonder where all the birds are! Janice-- yipie tie yie yo
Re: [IceHorses] I did enjoy Africa!
The maasai look like they are beautiful people! And they are either shorter than I thought or you are taller than I thought :) I thought massai were like 7 ft tall or something :) if you were just walking, werent you afraid the lion would come after you wanting a snack?? Janice
[IceHorses] tobiano test
not sure what this means... since there has been a tobiano test for years I think this must mean there is now a test for homozygous tobiano? Janice Tobiano Gene Discoveries Mean Better Tests by: Erin Ryder, TheHorse.com News Editor December 01 2007, Article # 10914 Looking to breed for spots and have certainty about it? Breeders trying to produce horses with tobiano coloring have a new tool, available through genetic research, to help them select their breeding stock. Tobiano is a common spotting pattern in horses, but up until this point the available tests to determine whether a horse could pass this pattern on to offspring weren't always accurate. Samantha Brooks, PhD, postdoctoral fellow at the University of Kentucky's Gluck Equine Research Center, recently completed a project that will result in an accurate test for this pattern. Brooks looked at the chromosomes of tobiano horses and discovered a large rearrangement of the genes thought to be involved in the production of pigment. We've designed a DNA-based test that will enable us to look for this chromosome inversion and, therefore, predict which horses are going to have two copies of tobiano--known as homozygous--and are going to be true breeding, so breeders can select for animals that are going to give them the best production of spotted horses, she said. This inversion so far, from our own testing as well as that of collaborators, is 100% associated with the tobiano gene, so that means that it's going to be an excellent test. -- yipie tie yie yo
[IceHorses] Re: white hairs on back
Janice: Depending on the whithers height length, side to side back contours the Hybrid may or may not be a good bet for your other horses. I'd be happy to give you my opinion if you e-mail me the pix I request on my site under Demo Info. para 1. Dana has told all us dealers to stress safety first that green horses/ riders who need some help in the balance dept. are best served trying the Sensation with an English Hunt Style breast plate in a smaller enclosed area until everyone feels safe. Even better yet to have a ground walker to lead you around in walk/ trot/gait if possible or at least have someone on the property nearby when you try it for stability. So many things can happen so quicky with a green horse, it's better to be safe than sorry. Treeless saddles can be more laterally unstable depending on horse/rider combo..go slowly with some help from friends , we want you safe in one piece. Us older broads (I'm 57yo this next year) dont's take the falls as easily anymore not to mentioned lost income. Kaaren
Re: [IceHorses] Snow pix
The next nice day - that's sort of an odd thing to say in December! My brand new washing machine quit yesterday. Only after whining pitifully about having three incontinent children in the house did the repair people agree to come before next week. Nancy
Re: [IceHorses] storms
Gosh Janice. I read The Shipping News and wanted NEVER to go there. Nancy
Re: [IceHorses] Snow pix
On Dec 4, 2007 3:44 PM, Janice McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: its like a dream! wonder where all the birds are! LOL--that's the same question I asked my husband! He said they're probably hiding in the trees. I did notice little bird tracks around the house and I also saw a colorful male pheasant walking through our backyard (didn't have the camera). V
Re: [IceHorses] Can You Turn Your Horse Without the Reins
And here's the 'Blooper' to show how difficult it can be: http://youtube.com/watch?v=4wYNBlZEQeE It should be much easier with our calmer ponies :-) Judy
Re: [IceHorses] Re: white hairs on back
On 12/4/07, Kaaren Jordan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Janice: Depending on the whithers height length, side to side back contours the Hybrid may or may not be a good bet for your other horses. I'd be happy to give you my opinion if you e-mail me the pix I request on my site under Demo Info. para 1. my fox is a big gentle giant built much like an icelandic, very wide and flat back and not much withers. He was not broke to ride til over 8 years old and has a good strong back. I want to keep it that way and not hurt his back like I did with my old soul Jaspar. He does not have prominent spine/withers. He seems fine with anything i put on him and when he spooks he is so big he cant really whirl and jump around like a smaller horse can. and he has a real calm temperament. but being on the green side i really dont know what he would do in every situation. Janice-- yipie tie yie yo
Re: [IceHorses] I did enjoy Africa!
They are beautiful both inside and out. They migrated down into East Africa a few hundred years ago from the north. They seem so tall but just are skinny, we had all different heights. I feel that the Loita area in Kenya is my second home and wonder perhaps if I lived there in another life. The lions we saw up close were in game parks though there were no fences between us hiking outside the park and them. When we went through brushy areas we walked together and the Maasai were always aware. God forbid we should see a loin when I was on the donkey. We did have a leopard kill a goat just behind one of our camps in broad daylight. Ann
Re: [IceHorses] storms
On 12/4/07, Nancy Sturm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gosh Janice. I read The Shipping News and wanted NEVER to go there. Nancy really!! Why? it sounded fascinating. i remember where he talked about it being so cold that fog would turn into ice lace on the power lines. That environment seems so foreign to me. The house chained to giant boulders and carried across the frozen canals. The people seemed so funny and interesting. I just loved it! I still want to go to newfoundland! Janice -- yipie tie yie yo
Re: [IceHorses] Snow pix
On 12/4/07, Nancy Sturm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The next nice day - that's sort of an odd thing to say in December! My brand new washing machine quit yesterday. Only after whining pitifully about having three incontinent children in the house did the repair people agree to come before next week. Nancy maybe you could call back and say if they dont come this afternoon you will bring the childrens soiled garments in to do them in the appliance showroom. Janice -- yipie tie yie yo
[IceHorses] Any ideas on lameness????
I think this list may be the best source of information on what may have happened to my colt. Last week my daughter and I had to go to town, and it was almost dark when we got home. Needless to say, we were tired and just wanted to get the horses fed and get into the house. I have a three year old colt, Wart, on a 15 acre pasture with two mares. When I went to feed, the mares came running down the hill. Then I saw Wart running down the hill. He was running on three legs, dragging his hind leg behind him. When he got to the feeder, I had thrown in some hay and he started to eat. But he could not support any weight on that leg. I was sure he had a fracture because it dangled at the pastern. However, he did not seem to be any any pain and tried several times to put weight on it, only to have it buckle at the pastern. I called for my daughter to call the vet and hitch up the trailer. Where I live you cannot get a vet for any reason at night, you have to trailer in, about 60 miles down a mountainous road. Anyway, I wrapped his pastern into the right position so it would not flop. He just continued eating while I manipulated his pastern to get the wrap on - no sign of pain. And bless Wart's heart, he loaded on three feet, almost falling down getting into the trailer. We got to the vet about two hours later. I opened the trailer to unload, and Wart stepped out like nothing had happened - full weight on his foot, no sign of lameness. We took him inside and the vet examined him and could find nothing. We left him overnight, and in the morning, the vet called and said they could find noting wrong. They ex-rayed his pastern, hock, stifle, etc. So, $600 later, could not get him so show any sign of lameness. Either I have a magical trailer, or both my daughter and I are delusional!! Honest, we were both in tears all the way to the vet we were so sure this was a serious injury. I am still worried about Wart - kept him confined for a few days, and finally put him back on pasture. No sign of any lameness. Wart is a beautiful sweet young stallion - if anyone has any idea what may have happened, I would really appreciate hearing from you. Thanks for any ideas or suggestions - Janet Caliente, California
RE: [IceHorses] OT-chickens
Janice: Emus! Now I know you're crazy! Do you know they eat minimally 1 1/2 to 2 lbs of special pellets a day? They also have to be fed those special ratite pellets, otherwise you'll get growth problems in the legs. While you're raising them you have to be very careful that they don't eat a lot of rocks and other indigestible items.They are much nicer than ostriches but can still pack a punch when they kick and they do peck at shiny objects! That said, they are cute and look like little striped tumbleweeds when they hatch. Cherie
[IceHorses] Fun horse quizzes
I am new to the group so I thought I would share some horse quizzes with you at this link http://jayperkins7.googlepages.com/horses thank you Lisa Iowa Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping
Re: [IceHorses] Happy Holidays!
that is so darn cute!
[IceHorses] Re: white hairs on back
For you non Sensation riders, freeswing is the way traditional english leathers are attached with the ability to have a lot of swing both front back. Hard use is a Sensation innovative design that has a buckle at the base of the flap that the specially made standard Sensation stirrup leathers buckle into for maximum weight distribution engagement of the internal multi point rigging system. Your leg swing is still about 5-6 each way, but hard use your leg centered under you which can be a good thing once you get used to it if the flap is the correct length for you. Thanks Vicka for your excellent description of your experience with the different choices. Kaaren
Re: [IceHorses] Re: white hairs /Fox
Fox sounds like our Twist. The story in the family is that Twisty says, in a very slow deep voice, I may be about to spook some time in the next week. That would be now, I think. Nancy
Re: [IceHorses] Snow pix
Hi V...is that your new house? Pretty photos. Raven
Re: [IceHorses] Snow pix
Only after whining pitifully about having three incontinent children in the house did the repair people agree to come before next week Nancy...you're my hero. I don't know how you do it!! Raven
Re: [IceHorses] Any ideas on lameness????
On 04/12/2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for any ideas or suggestions - Janet Caliente, California Hi Janet, it sounds like a locking stifle. Put down lots of poles for him to step over, and place them in areas he has to pass through. He needs to strengthen his leg and he needs all the exercise he can get. Lots of ditch walking (up and down) helps too. Solon had this as a yearling and we did a lot of walking to help him strengthen his leg. They eventually grow out of it. It's too bad you don't have a gelding for him to wrestle with. Our boys are relentless when it comes to wrestling, so poor Solon had no choice but to join in. Look up locking stifle on the internet and you'll find a ton of info. Good luck with him. Wanda
[IceHorses] Holiday Greetings
Happy Holidays to Everyone, I have attached a copy of my holiday greeting card in the Photo section under 07 Holiday Greetings. I am really enjoying being a member of the group and learning a lot about Icelandics, plus other interesting topics. The card is based on a water color that I did of the geldings at Icefarm when I was taking the Centered Riding Clinic. The clinic is very worthwhile. Plus it was so much fun to go visit the horses. Whenever you came anywhere near the bachelor herd, they would stop grazing no matter where they where, and drift to your location. Within minutes you had about 15 horses just standing by the fence line waiting for some attention, any attention. I think this behavior says something about the breed. Enjoy, Pamela
Re: [IceHorses] Snow pix
Darn! Wish I'd thought of that. Maybe I could just burn the laundry and go buy new. Nancy
Re: [IceHorses] Where Is Nasi 2
That is too cute! And beautiful, too. Nancy
RE: [IceHorses] Re: white hairs on back
As more people are using the Sensations for longer periods of time or jumping, Dana has had reports of issues developing under the butterfly using free swing for longer ride times/frequent riding on the same horse. ... I did the hunter lesson thing for 3-4 years, maybe longer - we had a jump course set up at home that we used regularly. My point is that a good rider shouldn't use their stirrups more when they jump than when they do anything else - or at least that's how I've been taught. I don't really care if people use the free-swing option or the hard-use option with their Sensations - that's their choice. But, when a 100-ish-pound rider starts complaining about that flimsy butterfly plate after only a couple of months, I have to ask questions. The questions I ask are: what saddles were used on the horse in his prior life, and how much pressure is the rider putting into their stirrups? As Karen Thomas mentioned, a lot is dependant on the rider biomechanics. I'm sure it is possible for those of you riding shorter/infrequent times on different horses, with good rider balance to be ok, but those are a lot of variables. Why tempt fate when Dana has done extensive testing on the way it was designed to be used. Kaaren, I don't know who you are talking about riding infrequently, but Cary weighs 240 pounds. Yep, two hundred and forty - over twice what some riders weigh. He's been riding in a Sensation for almost two years and he typically rides 2-3 hours, sometimes less, sometimes more. That's a lot of weight, and he's been doing it in that saddle for over a year and a half. We are PICKY about watching out for Skjoni's back. I am not recommending that people Cary's size ride with free-swinging stirrups...heck, I'm not even recommending that people his size ride in a treeless saddle, but he does, and they have had no problems. (MUCH credit to Cary for finally taking an interest in how he rides.) My point is simply that the stirrup rigging isn't so much of a factor if the rider doesn't jam all their weight in their stirrups. That's not a good habit to have in any saddle, treed or not. My big fear is that people will throw the baby out with the bath water and overlook a perfectly good saddle option because of some claims that I'm not sure are valid. I'm sure the Sensations won't be THE answer for ALL riders on ALL horses...but if it works for big old Cary, then I think that's a pretty serious endorsement - for the saddle, AND for taking a few riding lessons. Karen Karen Thomas Wingate, NC No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.13/1169 - Release Date: 12/3/2007 10:56 PM IceHorses Community for Photos and Videos: http://kickapps.com/icehorses The greatest enemy of the truth very often is not the lie- deliberate, contrived and dishonest -- but the myth -- persistent, persuasive and unrealistic. All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. ~ Arthur Schopenhauer [] Lee Ziegler http://leeziegler.com [] Liz Graves http://lizgraves.com [] Lee's Book Easy Gaited Horses http://tinyurl.com/7vyjo [] IceHorses Map http://www.frappr.com/IceHorses Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IceHorses/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IceHorses/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [IceHorses] Snow pix
I do love snow - in your yard, or Wanda's. Beautiful, stunning pictures, Virginia...but I have to agree with Nancy - much prettier in your yard than in mine! Karen Karen Thomas Wingate, NC No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.13/1169 - Release Date: 12/3/2007 10:56 PM
Re: [IceHorses] storms
We are having snow here in SE MN, it took me an hour to go 10 miles that usually takes 20 minutes, through town -- I and my horses love our track system, take a look~~~ http://picasaweb.google.com/dakota.charm/TrackForHorses
Re: [IceHorses] Holiday Greetings
On Wed, Dec 05, 2007 at 12:08:25AM -, blessiowner wrote: I have attached a copy of my holiday greeting card in the Photo section under 07 Holiday Greetings. I am really enjoying being a member of the group and learning a lot about Icelandics, plus other interesting topics. The card is based on a water color that I did of the geldings at Icefarm when I was taking the Centered Riding Clinic. very beautiful! thanks for sharing :) --vicka
RE: [IceHorses] Iceland
It is really odd, mabye they should hire better announcers that can keep it focused on sports...the announcers could have used that time to talk about what Icelandic people have done for centuries, riding Icelandic horses, which is a sport. Based on the different blurbs for the different countries...and based on how much Iceland plays up the drinking and partying in their own ads, I suspect that Olympic blurb was approved by the Icelandic tourism industry. Most of the other countries DID have sports-related comments in their blurbs, and you'd think that a country with ice in its name would take the Winter Olympic sports at least a little seriously. Karen Karen Thomas Wingate, NC No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.13/1169 - Release Date: 12/3/2007 10:56 PM
Re: [IceHorses] Any ideas on lameness????
Dr, Wanda probably has the diagnosis. When we went to look at Icelandics, I loved Yrsa from first sight, but her left hind leg would lock up, then give way so violently that it bruised my thumb. I talked with the seller and we decided to have a pre-purchase done on her, I'd pay if she passed and buy her, the owner would pay if she were unsound. Well, she was just fine for the vet. He said it was patellar dislocation - there's lots on the internet. He said that he had a colt come to the clinic whose leg had been locked forl ong enough to get him in the trailer and transport him to the clinic and was now at the track. He said increased exercise, especially up and down hills would help and that she would outgrow it. Still makes me nervous. Nancy
Re: [IceHorses] help with Icies wanted/false heat
Actually, Mic: There is a German girl (about 25) who just contacted me. I'll send you her e-mail address tomorrow; I am too pooped right now. I just found out that none of my five mares, who stood for Melnir as if in heat, is pregnant. Karen called it false heat. I have never had any experience with that. With all the breeding I have done, this concept is entirely new to me. A standing heat (which is what the mares seemed to show) to me meant close to ovulation. Well we learn something new every day. I would appreciate input from anyone with experience with this. This is a hard learning experience. I was expecting up to five foals and there will be none. Anneliese On 12/4/07 12:20 PM, Mic Rushen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From a friend who lives in the English Lake District (actually the inventor of the Trapezius saddle) : From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 16:55:51 - Hi All, Does anyone know of a person wishing to work with Icies from mid January to at least the end of March/middle of April?? We could do with some help here. The chores would be the usual picking up loads of poo at regular intervals but there would also be the opportunity to ride and help with the development of the horses, young and not so young. We would provide comfortable accom with plenty of good food and regular riding lessons. Please pass this on wherever you think might be able to help. Many thanks - Janice www.icelandichorses.co.uk Mic (Michelle) Rushen -- - Solva Icelandic Horses and DeMeulenkamp Sweet Itch Rugs: www.solva-icelandics.co.uk -- - Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes IceHorses Community for Photos and Videos: http://kickapps.com/icehorses The greatest enemy of the truth very often is not the lie- deliberate, contrived and dishonest -- but the myth -- persistent, persuasive and unrealistic. All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. ~ Arthur Schopenhauer [] Lee Ziegler http://leeziegler.com [] Liz Graves http://lizgraves.com [] Lee's Book Easy Gaited Horses http://tinyurl.com/7vyjo [] IceHorses Map http://www.frappr.com/IceHorses Yahoo! Groups Links -- Anneliese Virro UNICORN VALLEY ICELANDICS 1800 Carter School Road Stanford, Kentucky 40484 606-346-4963 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [IceHorses] Re: white hairs on back
I also did the hunter thing with many lessons, probably more like 10 or 20 years. As Karen says, at least in that discipline, and with the instructor I rode for, very little weight should be applied to the sturrups. Even now, if I feel that I am letting weight fall into my stirrups, I correct my balance. Hunter is an edgy, reactive little guy (I love him. I really do love this horse) and it took me a while to figure out that he was made anxious when my leg rested on his side. So now, not only do I not weight my stirrup, I have to let may leg fall in a really relaxed fashion so that I'm not using it to balance on his body.. The whole thing has really helped me to regain my balance in motion. I can't remember what I was doing, maybe just dropping my stirrups for a rest, and some event happened out on trail not long ago. He sort of surged forward and then took a few trot steps. I was still right in the middle when we finished. Still stirrup-less. Nancy IceHorses Community for Photos and Videos: http://kickapps.com/icehorses The greatest enemy of the truth very often is not the lie- deliberate, contrived and dishonest -- but the myth -- persistent, persuasive and unrealistic. All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. ~ Arthur Schopenhauer [] Lee Ziegler http://leeziegler.com [] Liz Graves http://lizgraves.com [] Lee's Book Easy Gaited Horses http://tinyurl.com/7vyjo [] IceHorses Map http://www.frappr.com/IceHorses Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IceHorses/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IceHorses/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [IceHorses] help with Icies wanted/false heat
I just found out that none of my five mares, who stood for Melnir as if in heat, is pregnant. Karen called it false heat. I have never had any experience with that. With all the breeding I have done, this concept is entirely new to me. A standing heat (which is what the mares seemed to show) to me meant close to ovulation. I'm really sorry that Anneliese won't be having any little Melnirs. I was looking forward to some little (tow-headed?) babies cavorting in the paradise of Unicorn Valley... To complete the details of the story, Melnir was only there for five days, and most any vet will tell you that breeding five mares in five days is not ideal. It doesn't give much time for the sperm count to build back up between breedings. (Not that I have to worry about protecting his reputation or anything - he's a great gelding, so his reputation isn't exactly on the line here! :) ) Most vets will advise not to breed a stallion more than once a day, maybe twice. But, when they pasture breed, they breed much more often than that. I'm sure some get pregnant right off the bat anyway, but by restricting the contact, you should be able increase the odds of immediate conception. I know that 2-3 of my mares seemed to cycle immediately when I put them in with him the first year, but at least two were back standing for him a week or two later. Ultrasounds showed that the two got pregnant on the later heat. Since normal heat cycles are 21 days apart. I know the dates that Christine told me that Bjola, Brunka and Saga stood for their stallions before they came to live with us, but the ultrasounds I had done immediately upon their arrival showed they didn't conceive then, but instead all conceived right before they left Canada for NC. Anyway, I sure didn't breed that many mares, so I don't have as much experience as some others - but I have ultrasounded all my mares within 15-21 days of breeding, so I have a pretty good idea of when my pregnant mares did conceive and when they didn't. Karen Thomas, NC No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.13/1169 - Release Date: 12/3/2007 10:56 PM IceHorses Community for Photos and Videos: http://kickapps.com/icehorses The greatest enemy of the truth very often is not the lie- deliberate, contrived and dishonest -- but the myth -- persistent, persuasive and unrealistic. All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. ~ Arthur Schopenhauer [] Lee Ziegler http://leeziegler.com [] Liz Graves http://lizgraves.com [] Lee's Book Easy Gaited Horses http://tinyurl.com/7vyjo [] IceHorses Map http://www.frappr.com/IceHorses Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IceHorses/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IceHorses/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [IceHorses] Where Is Nasi 2
that is TOO cool!! nasi really does do that :) Janice -- yipie tie yie yo
Re: [IceHorses] OT-chickens
Emus! Now I know you're crazy! Do you know they eat minimally 1 1/2 to 2 lbs of special pellets a day? maybe donny wont feel bad to kill them and we will eat them. Janice -- yipie tie yie yo
Re: [IceHorses] Iceland
On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 08:39:20PM -0500, Karen Thomas wrote: Based on the different blurbs for the different countries...and based on how much Iceland plays up the drinking and partying in their own ads, I suspect that Olympic blurb was approved by the Icelandic tourism industry. Most of the other countries DID have sports-related comments in their blurbs, and you'd think that a country with ice in its name would take the Winter Olympic sports at least a little seriously. i think that iceland's relatively liberal alcohol regulations, along with cheap in-eu airline fares, have served to bring in a lot of tourist eurodollars. taras grescoe's travelogue the devil's picnic documents quite the opposite in norway, another dark-n-chilly country with the most restrictive alcohol laws outside the islamic world. interestingly, the cold countries are not outstandingly represented in medals at the winter games. canada's 119 total medals (38 gold) do not compare terribly well to the usa's 216 total (78 gold). iceland's total of three medals (all in summer games) are actually not so bad for a country with a total population of around 300,000 people, which is to say about one-fifth the size of manhattan island's. (norway, quite the opposite again, is a shining beacon for competition, with a total of 280 winter-games medals, as opposed to its relatively meagre summer total 135.) i confess i hold the old-fashioned notions that playing sports and drinking alcohol are both best done for fun. --vicka
[IceHorses] OT-Draft Horse Auction, WI
About a month ago, a couple and their two grandchildren died from carbon monoxide poisoning while sleeping in thier horse trailer at the World Clydesdale Show in Madison, WI. DeVere R. Clay, 68, and his wife, Barbara J. Clay, 57, owners of Clay's Clydesdales, and grandchildren Erin Briney, 10, and Hope Briney, 13. De Vere Clay was a well-known breeder and exhibitor within the Clydesdale community. Mr. Clay was a fourth-generation horse-breeder. http://tinyurl.com/376yme Anywho...their draft horses are going to auction. I heard that the Clay family had beautiful horses. Dec 15th. Auctioners info John Marg 715-284-4684 17 Broodmares, 11- Mares 2 and under, 5- Geldings, 3 Stud Foals, and 2 aged stallions. All equipment and carts. Auction is being held at Cleaver Creek Farm in Mausto, WI. http://tinyurl.com/yur7nt Please cross post this info to other who may be interested in these horses. Raven Lucy Molly, the Girl Doggies Huginn Dixie Chick, the Back Behind the Barn Ponies Maggie Rose, the cat who makes me sneeze Respect ALL Earthlings. We are all animals of this planet. We are all creatures.
[IceHorses] Thumper stold Dagur's carrot.
I was tring to get Dagur down the driveway with carrots hidden along the way. We got to the last carrot and it was gone. I saw a bunny running off with something orange in it's mouth. Very cute. Dagur was still looking for it.. LOL Lorraine Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
Re: [IceHorses] Re: white hairs on back
On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 07:15:53PM -0800, Nancy Sturm wrote: I can't remember what I was doing, maybe just dropping my stirrups for a rest, and some event happened out on trail not long ago. He sort of surged forward and then took a few trot steps. I was still right in the middle when we finished. Still stirrup-less. this is indeed an important thing. tonight i went to check on our ring's condition (fine, just a thin crust of ice over a few inches of snow), and i turned stjarni out at liberty while i poked about. of course then i had to clean his feet, and one thing led to another, and next thing i knew i had slipped the safety vest on under the icelandic riding suit (but i wasn't wearing paddock boots! i had NO idea! ;) and was slithering aboard for a bit of bareback. stjarni's a good and careful fellow, but we've been probably overemphasizing the lateral work lately, and he takes any opportunity to suddenly turn some thirty to ninety degrees and go sideways. (just with me, which is why i say we above; he doesn't pull this with my students very often.) at no point was i insecure or out-of-the-middle, even when (i've been waiting for him to try this) it happened in tolt. balance is a whole-body business, and all the tack in the world can't change that. (though a nice thick icey mane may help you now and again when you lose :) --vicka
Re: [IceHorses] Thumper stold Dagur's carrot.
carrots hidden along the way. We got to the last carrot and it was gone. I saw a bunny running off with something orange in it's mouth. Ohmigosh, that's priceless!!! Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com
Re: [IceHorses] Happy Holidays!
Happy Holidays from the IceRyder Reindeer! For those who can't see the pictures, they are here: http://iceryder.net/holidaycards.html and I made a little video which is on the same page :-) Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com
Re: [IceHorses] Happy Holidays!
Ohmigosh - love the Ice Deer. Nancy
Re: [IceHorses] Thumper stold Dagur's carrot.
--- Lorraine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was tring to get Dagur down the driveway with carrots hidden along the way. We got to the last carrot and it was gone. Does that mean you got to the end of the driveway without incident? Susan in NV Nevermore Ranch http://users.oasisol.com/nevermore/ Disclaimer CAUTION: DO NOT DRIVE WITH HOT COFFEE IN YOUR LAP Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
Re: [IceHorses] Thumper stold Dagur's carrot.
--- susan cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does that mean you got to the end of the driveway without incident? Yes. But that is as far as I got. He is too smart. It was like he was glued to the ground. Lorraine Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
Re: [IceHorses] Re: white hairs on back
On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 08:23:47PM -0500, Karen Thomas wrote: I don't really care if people use the free-swing option or the hard-use option with their Sensations - that's their choice. and i think it should be a choice informed by the designer of the saddle and reports of other users. But, when a 100-ish-pound rider starts complaining about that flimsy butterfly plate after only a couple of months, I have to ask questions. The questions I ask are: what saddles were used on the horse in his prior life, and how much pressure is the rider putting into their stirrups? i've always ridden stjarni in a hrimnir x-wide treed saddle, aside from the sensations. i ride him bareback as well, and without stirrups with a saddle. i can't possibly be putting more than fifty-five pounds or so of pressure per stirrup, even if i were standing on my toes, which of course i'm not. i imagine i could jump up and down to exert more force, but in fact i have not done that either. as i mentioned earlier, his previous owner was a little girl, and presumably even lighter than i am. i do not know what saddle she used, but it was at least two years between her riding and stjarni's white hairs showing up. i think it would be quite the coincidence for the white hairs to match the butterfly-plate shape so well if there were a years-old injury involved instead. He's been riding in a Sensation for almost two years and he typically rides 2-3 hours, sometimes less, sometimes more. That's a lot of weight, and he's been doing it in that saddle for over a year and a half. how often does he ride? in the summer, stjarni will get ridden for that long more days than not. (my students have thinned out since the snows hit, to which i can only say both sillies, get icelandic riding suits and yay, more free time for me! :) stjarni also, i should mention, shows white hairs rapidly after injury (he sustains bites and kicks quite often, since he deposed the former alpha in his paddock and the former alpha doesn't like it) unless they are treated fairly aggressively. he has a patch on one flank that i can't imagine how he got, but it's quite distinct and has been there for over a year. (i haven't tried treating that; it doesn't seem to bother him.) skjoni may have less graphic skin than stjarni does. My point is simply that the stirrup rigging isn't so much of a factor if the rider doesn't jam all their weight in their stirrups. That's not a good habit to have in any saddle, treed or not. are you suggesting i do that? i doubt we'd be winning two-phases (in the sensation, yet) if i were, nor has anyone said as much any time i've posted pictures of myself or my students to the list or other equestrian communities. --vicka ps. as we say in the statistical-analysis world, anecdote is not the singular form of 'data'. i do presume that the sensation's designers have, in the course of their ongoing engineering and revisioning of their saddle design, collected and examined enough information to be dignified with the term 'data', though.
