Re: [Ilugc] Wireless USB Broadband provider in and around Chennai

2010-11-08 Thread விக்னேஷ் நந்த குமார்
Hi,

On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 12:48 PM, Arun Kumar coolwith...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm planning to heading back India soon and would like to understand
 which wireless broadband (via USB modem) provider supports Linux
 operating system and provides good coverage (not necessarily very high
 speed but average is good enough). - I'll be visiting tier-II, III
 towns in Tamilnadu and mostly available in Chennai but occasional
 visits to other states/metros.


I'm using Reliance Netconnect in Ubuntu and I am able to connect using
wvdial.
The coverage is very good, AFAIK. Even during my visit to hometown (a remote
village), I could get reasonable speed in 1x mode (Broadband+ network is
available only in major cities).

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[Ilugc] [Job] Product Engineer Server Admin opening at Nuveda Learning

2010-11-08 Thread Recruitment Nuveda
Hi Team,

Nuveda Learning Pvt Ltd is a company that provides learning solutions
and is based at Mandaveli, Chennai.  We have the following openings
currently. If interested, please respond to
recruitm...@nuvedalearning.com

URL: http://nuvedalearning.com


POSITION 1: PRODUCT ENGINEER/SOFTWARE DEVELOPER
NuVeda is searching for an experienced web savvy, talented, highly
motivated, focused, process oriented and successful Product engineer
to join our team.
We need a candidate who has strong programming skills, can work in
Agile environments and
who is competent with MVC design patterns and Perl.
It is alright if the candidate does not know perl but is very
competent n any other language, OO principles and design patterns.
We require candidates who have contributed actual code to at least 1
open source project. This ensures that the candidate is good at
collaboration, documentation, systematically versions code and adheres
to standards.

No. of openings: 1
Min Exp: 1.5 yrs
Max exp:  5+ yrs

Qualifications required:
· Excellent programming skills (PHP, Perl or Java)
· Worked with MVC frameworks(Ruby or Catalyst)
· Good understanding of Web technologies(HTTP,Apache, MySQL)
· Good understanding of Web standards(JSON, XML, REST)
· Comfortable with Unix/Linux environment(ssh,rsync,tar)
· Comfortable with Version Control system (preferably GIT)
· Adaptable to rapid changes in development environment
· Can use new tools/technolgies with ease
· Aware of new and upcoming technologies(HTML 5 Vs FLASH)
· Demonstrable use of open technologies in consumer applications.
· Amazon EC2 or other Enterprise Cloud hosting services



POSITION  2: SERVER ADMIN
No. of openings: 1
Min exp: 3 – 5 years.
TYPE OF OPENING: CONSULTANT/PART TIME

Job Responsibility:

-   Improve Catalyst hosting environment’s performance parameters to
meet acceptable response time standards
-   Set up tools for monitoring web server’s operation
-   Improve MySQL performance to meet acceptable standards.
-   Suggest solutions for efficient Database scaling
-   Migration of database to a different DBMS engine if required
•   Hosting Architecture,
•   Web server Administration,
•   Load Balancing,
•   DB Administration,
•   Security Backup and restoration,
•   Code versioning,
•   Ticketing,
•   Mail server configuration,
•   DNS Binding,
•   Performance;

Skills Required:
•   Apache,
•   MySql and load balancing,
•   Apache,
•   MySql,
•   GIT,
•   SMTP,
•   Postfix

Compensation: As per market standards
Requirement: Immediate


Warm Regards
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Re: [Ilugc] Wireless USB Broadband provider in and around Chennai

2010-11-08 Thread manoj kumar
On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 12:48 PM, Arun Kumar coolwith...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm planning to heading back India soon and would like to understand
 which wireless broadband (via USB modem) provider supports Linux
 operating system and provides good coverage (not necessarily very high
 speed but average is good enough). - I'll be visiting tier-II, III
 towns in Tamilnadu and mostly available in Chennai but occasional
 visits to other states/metros. However I've already gone through many
 comments/suggestions over forums but would like to get the folks real
 experience from this group as well.



A friend of mine uses BSNL EVDO and connects to Internet in Ubuntu through
wvdial.
The cost is Rs.800/- with more than 512Kbps(1Mbps I guess! ) speed and he
is satisfied with  the quality.

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Re: [Ilugc] Wireless USB Broadband provider in and around Chennai

2010-11-08 Thread Vamsee Kanakala

On Monday 08 November 2010 02:17 PM, விக்னேஷ் நந்த குமார் wrote:


I'm using Reliance Netconnect in Ubuntu and I am able to connect using
wvdial.


+1 for Reliance Netconnect. Wanted to pick up a Tata Photon+, and 
realized that my hometown (AP) wasn't covered in the list. Reliance has 
a far bigger list of covered towns/villages, it keeps me connected 
(mostly around 250-300 kbps, I suspect) in my small-ish hometown and 
almost all through the journeys to and fro, which is good enough for me. 
I use it with my Ubuntu netbook, and you don't even have to use wvdial. 
You can just configure it from the network manager applet (which has 
settings in-built for both Reliance and Tata modems - just enter your 
assigned number as both username and password).


Vamsee.
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Re: [Ilugc] Wireless USB Broadband provider in and around Chennai

2010-11-08 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Mon, 2010-11-08 at 14:55 +0530, manoj kumar wrote:
  which wireless broadband (via USB modem) provider supports Linux
  operating system and provides good coverage (not necessarily very
 high
  speed but average is good enough). - I'll be visiting tier-II, III
  towns in Tamilnadu and mostly available in Chennai but occasional
  visits to other states/metros. However I've already gone through
 many
  comments/suggestions over forums but would like to get the folks
 real
  experience from this group as well.
 
 
 
 A friend of mine uses BSNL EVDO and connects to Internet in Ubuntu
 through
 wvdial.
 The cost is Rs.800/- with more than 512Kbps(1Mbps I guess! ) speed and
 he
 is satisfied with  the quality. 

I am happy with BSNL 3G - only problem is in some III tier cities where
3G is not available, I have not been able to configure the 2G option in
fedora - but I hear it works in some other distros.
-- 
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[Ilugc] Cloud based projects

2010-11-08 Thread chidambaresan ananthan
Dear Luggies,

Is anybody work on the cloud based projects.i do the virtualized academic
lab project for my final year.i am in need of help regarding the
implementation of the cloud and virtualized lab.please dont refer any sites
or manual.i am in need of direct help from any person who work over the
cloud environment or refer me any person.
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www.sakthiinnovators.com
+919245256098
04562263005
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Re: [Ilugc] Wireless USB Broadband provider in and around Chennai

2010-11-08 Thread Manokaran K
On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 3:18 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@thenilgiris.comwrote:


 I am happy with BSNL 3G - only problem is in some III tier cities where
 3G is not available, I have not been able to configure the 2G option in
 fedora - but I hear it works in some other distros.


Would be nice to know the avg download speed. And the cost.

thanks,
mano

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Re: [Ilugc] Wireless USB Broadband provider in and around Chennai

2010-11-08 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Mon, 2010-11-08 at 15:24 +0530, Manokaran K wrote:
 On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 3:18 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves
 law...@thenilgiris.comwrote:
 
 
  I am happy with BSNL 3G - only problem is in some III tier cities
 where
  3G is not available, I have not been able to configure the 2G option
 in
  fedora - but I hear it works in some other distros.
 
 
 Would be nice to know the avg download speed. And the cost.
 
 

faster than my BSNL broadband connection (which is supposed to be
2mbps). I have no idea how to measure the speed - if any one can tell me
what tests to use, I will carry them out and report. It cost me 2900 for
connection and modem and some prepaid balance. The local guys have no
idea about billing and how to pay, so I have no idea about the running
cost. I have been using it for 2 months now, and no one has asked me for
money yet! I often use both the broadband connection and the 3G at the
same time to get additional speed (and to overcome BSNL's habit of
suddenly turning their DNS off)
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Re: [Ilugc] Wireless USB Broadband provider in and around Chennai

2010-11-08 Thread விக்னேஷ் நந்த குமார்
On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 3:18 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@thenilgiris.comwrote:

  I am happy with BSNL 3G


One of my friends uses BSNL 3G and I came to know that he is getting only
local IP (10.x.x.x) which prevents him from using some applications.
I'm not sure if this is the case with all BSNL 3G connections.

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Re: [Ilugc] Ubuntu 10.10 Screen resolution problem

2010-11-08 Thread Mehul Ved
On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Girish Venkatachalam
girishvenkatacha...@gmail.com wrote:
 It didn't help. The same is the case with KDE also. What can I do to get
 higher resolution say 1024x768?

 xrandr -s 1024x768

 Just type xrandr to know the modes your video card likes.

KDE also has a GUI frontend to it called KRandr.


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Re: [Ilugc] Wireless USB Broadband provider in and around Chennai

2010-11-08 Thread Yoganandam Goteti
On Mon, 2010-11-08 at 13:52 +0530, Girish Venkatachalam wrote:
 On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 12:48 PM, Arun Kumar coolwith...@gmail.com wrote:
  I'm planning to heading back India soon and would like to understand
  which wireless broadband (via USB modem) provider supports Linux
  operating system and provides good coverage (not necessarily very high
  speed but average is good enough). - I'll be visiting tier-II, III
  towns in Tamilnadu and mostly available in Chennai but occasional
  visits to other states/metros. However I've already gone through many
  comments/suggestions over forums but would like to get the folks real
  experience from this group as well.
 
 Tata Indicom's photon would be a good bet.
 
 It may necessitate download of firmware with hotplug but that should
 be straight forward.

TATA proton HAS no LINUX  support  am stuck with  one when I  called
their help-desk and was told they have no linux support as of now
however some people have tried they said depends on the model one has. I
have a Hauwai usb which they said WILL NOT SUPPORT LINUX You can try
Reliance they mostly supply ZTE and ZTE has linux support.
GY
 However I have no real life experience with it.
 
 -Girish
 PS: I hope you know that there is no such thing as Wireless broadband.
 It will always be slow.
 



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[Ilugc] Updating my calendar

2010-11-08 Thread Sathish Kumar
Hello

Click on the link below and please enter your birthday for me.  It will take 
less than one minute.

http://www.birthdayalarm.com/bd2/84043926a728351267b1527273330c476755526d1386

Thank You,
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[Ilugc] could not update .ICEauthorityy

2010-11-08 Thread gupta.chand...@gmail.com
Hi,
Yesterday I changed the log-in settings.. from ask password while log-in to
dont ask password.
the next time i re-boot my system got this error

error1. could not update ICEauthority file /home/user/.ICEauthority

after closing that pop up I got next error pop-up

error2: There is a  problem with the configuration server.
(/usr/lib/libconfg2-4/gconf-
sanity-check2 exited with status 256)

error3: Nautilus could not create the following required folders:
/home/user/Desktop/,/home/user/.nautilus

thought of searching the solutin in ubuntu-forums thread.. got some thread..
one of which i followed and deleted the .ICEauthority file :( :(
should not have deleted that coz I got another solution like chmod stuff for
it. but pathetically theh ICEauthority is deleted.
Now what can be done?

please suggest...
¬chandan
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[Ilugc] Workshop/Seminar on monetising IP

2010-11-08 Thread Chandran
This is regarding the 4-city Seminar on 'Monetising IP' that IPDome 
cid:part1.05040207.04050705@lawgonindia.com is  organising in 
partnership with Achromic Point who are the event management partners.  
Please contact ipdome.n...@gmail.com  to receive brochure for the event 
at Chennai.


  The events at Delhi held on 10th Sept. at Hotel Eros 
Intercontinental,  at  Mumbai held on 24th Sept. at Hotel 
Intercontinental the Lalit and at Bangalore on 29th Oct. at Hotel Royal 
Orchid evoked wide interest and participation; the participants included 
Vice President of Mahindra  Mahindra (Ms.Usha Amonkar ), CFO of 
Religare Technologies (Mr.Manish Sharma), Manager, IP of Teva Pharma and 
Vice President of Bry Air Asia (Ms.Sonali Dutta), IP Manager of USV 
Pharma,  delegates from ITC, Philips Innovation Centre, 3i Infotech, 
Bally Technologies, Dynamaitcs and representatives from IT  ITES 
Companies and assorted IP heads and senior Managers.


The Seminar goes beyond the conventional defensive deployment of IP 
and promotes a strategic perspective of IP that transforms it from a 
cost-centre to a profit-centre.  The Seminar has an experiential and 
hands-on approach to Intellectual Property targeting Value-enhancement, 
not just Value-protection and addressing RD and Marketing Managerial 
personnel along with lawyers.   The methodology includes a Strategy Game 
in which two corporations and two consulting firms deal with live IP 
infringement and licensing issues that enables a higher quality of 
learning on a wider canvas, that has the potential to transform the IP 
Strategy in their organisations.


The feedback we received was positive; many participants said that 
they gained a strategic perspective of IP and their learnings in the 
Seminar would enhance their capability to deal with IP issues in their 
respective organisations. We request you to send delegates for the 
Seminar from your company who could benefit from it.


--


Regards,


R.Chandrasekar,
Advocate

P.V.S.Giridhar  Sai
Advocates
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No.319(Old No.155), Linghi Chetty Street (III Floor), George Town, Chennai 600 
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Phone: 91-44- 2524 3949/ 4216 3949 Fax: 91-44- 2522 9151
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Re: [Ilugc] Workshop/Seminar on monetising IP

2010-11-08 Thread Arun SAG
On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 10:11 PM, Chandran chand...@lawgonindia.com wrote:

 This is regarding the 4-city Seminar on 'Monetising IP' that IPDome 
 cid:part1.05040207.04050705@lawgonindia.comcid%3apart1.05040207.04050...@lawgonindia.com
 is  organising in partnership with Achromic Point who are the event
 management partners.  Please contact ipdome.n...@gmail.com  to receive
 brochure for the event at Chennai.


Monetising IP - means - How to get money from intellectual property? I am
sorry to say this, to me it sounds much like  A seminar on how to become a
patent troll?

In Free software and GNU/Linux there is no room from Intellectual property.
I am sorry, you have posted it to a **wrong**  list :-)


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Re: [Ilugc] Workshop/Seminar on monetising IP

2010-11-08 Thread Chandran


On Monday 08 November 2010 10:27 PM, Arun SAG wrote:

On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 10:11 PM, Chandranchand...@lawgonindia.com  wrote:

   

This is regarding the 4-city Seminar on 'Monetising IP' that IPDome
   

cid:part1.05040207.04050705@lawgonindia.comcid%3apart1.05040207.04050...@lawgonindia.com
is  organising in partnership with Achromic Point who are the event
management partners.  Pleasecontact ipdome.n...@gmail.com  to receive
brochure for the event at Chennai.


 

Monetising IP - means -  How to get money from intellectual property? I am
sorry to say this, to me it sounds much like  A seminar on how to become a
patent troll?

In Free software and GNU/Linux there is no room from Intellectual property.
I am sorry, you have posted it to a **wrong**  list :-)

Dear all,
   
Every member in this list is an intellect. But members wanted to deliver 
their intellects to the society without any consideration. In order to 
protect your intellect[other than software], I am inclined to reply as 
follows.

The post is not intended only for Software. It is an information for all 
streams. Infact in my office Majority of the computer is running on Ubuntu for 
the past one year. I have been promoting Opensource software among my 
professional community. This is an information to pass it on to others who are 
likely ot be benefitted. If you feel this information is leading to patent 
troll. I am sorry you are misconcieved this information.  Intellectual Property 
rights includes Patents, Trademark, Copyright, Design, Geographical Indications 
and Integrated Circuits layout protection. Even your blog is 
copyrighted,*Copyright © 2007-2010 Arun's blog. Sorry to mention personally. 
Our Patent Act is not granting patents to software perse. So Source codes are 
protected under Copyright. Even when you want to promote your opensource 
software, you need a trademark[brand name]. You have to keep that brand name 
proctected in order to promote your software. Members in the list will also 
develop integrated circuits which can be protected. Designs which you are 
creating using opensource software is protected under copyright and if it is a 
industrial design it can be protected under Designs Act.Intellectual property 
is not only Patents. Please look at the world with broad perspective. I have 
seen many  people nowadays using open source software for their 
business/profession. That doesn't mean that they are not entitled to protect 
their products/designs/logo.*
   
If you feel I have hurt you, it is not intentional but it is only 
clarification to be given to the members in the list.  Don't take it 
personally. Thanks for giving an oppurtunity to me to explain about 
Intellectual Property in this list.

R.Chandrasekar,

Advocate

P.V.S.Giridhar  Sai
Advocates
Legal  Allied Services
No.319(Old No.155), Linghi Chetty Street (III Floor), George Town, Chennai 600 
001.
Phone: 91-44- 2524 3949/ 4216 3949 Fax: 91-44- 2522 9151
Email: girid...@lawgonindia.com / s...@lawgonindia.com  website: 
www.lawgonindia.com

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Re: [Ilugc] Workshop/Seminar on monetising IP

2010-11-08 Thread steve


On 11/08/2010 10:11 PM, Chandran wrote:

This is regarding the 4-city Seminar on 'Monetising IP' that IPDome
cid:part1.05040207.04050705@lawgonindia.com  is  organising in
partnership with Achromic Point who are the event management partners.
Please contact ipdome.n...@gmail.com  to receive brochure for the event
at Chennai.
 [...snip...]

  The Seminar goes beyond the conventional defensive deployment of IP
and promotes a strategic perspective of IP that transforms it from a
cost-centre to a profit-centre.


Are  You  Serious ???


 The Seminar has an experiential and
hands-on approach to Intellectual Property targeting Value-enhancement,
not just Value-protection


ehe ...


and addressing RD and Marketing Managerial
personnel along with lawyers.   The methodology includes a Strategy Game
in which two corporations and two consulting firms deal with live IP
infringement and licensing issues that enables a higher quality of
learning on a wider canvas,


Now, I don't know whether to laugh or be afraid !!

Why the eff would this kind of thing be promoted here ? I call this spam.

BTW, speaking of IP, is the domain name of the OP's email ^monetizing^ in some 
manner the well know identity of list member of (dis)repute :)


cheers,
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Re: [Ilugc] Workshop/Seminar on monetising IP

2010-11-08 Thread Chandran

On Monday 08 November 2010 11:22 PM, Chandran wrote:


On Monday 08 November 2010 11:15 PM, steve wrote:


On 11/08/2010 10:11 PM, Chandran wrote:

This is regarding the 4-city Seminar on 'Monetising IP' that IPDome
cid:part1.05040207.04050705@lawgonindia.com  is  organising in
partnership with Achromic Point who are the event management partners.
Please contact ipdome.n...@gmail.com  to receive brochure for the event
at Chennai.
 [...snip...]

  The Seminar goes beyond the conventional defensive deployment 
of IP

and promotes a strategic perspective of IP that transforms it from a
cost-centre to a profit-centre.


Are  You  Serious ???


 The Seminar has an experiential and
hands-on approach to Intellectual Property targeting Value-enhancement,
not just Value-protection


ehe ...


and addressing RD and Marketing Managerial
personnel along with lawyers.   The methodology includes a Strategy 
Game

in which two corporations and two consulting firms deal with live IP
infringement and licensing issues that enables a higher quality of
learning on a wider canvas,


Now, I don't know whether to laugh or be afraid !!

Why the eff would this kind of thing be promoted here ? I call this 
spam.


BTW, speaking of IP, is the domain name of the OP's email 
^monetizing^ in some manner the well know identity of list member of 
(dis)repute :)


cheers,
- steve

Please mention why you wanted to copyright your posts in your 
blog._*Copyright © 2010 lonetwin.net*_ . You wanted to protect your 
writings. That's it. Please read my explanation to SAGarun's mail.


Chandran.


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*Trademark*:

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Re: [Ilugc] Workshop/Seminar on monetising IP

2010-11-08 Thread steve

Hello Chandran,

On 11/08/2010 11:13 PM, Chandran wrote:

[...snip...]

Monetising IP - means -   How to get money from intellectual property? I
am sorry to say this, to me it sounds much like  A seminar on how to
become a patent troll?

In Free software and GNU/Linux there is no room from Intellectual
property. I am sorry, you have posted it to a **wrong**  list :-)

Dear all,


Every member in this list is an intellect. But members wanted to deliver
their intellects to the society without any consideration. In order to
protect your intellect[other than software], I am inclined to reply as
follows.

The post is not intended only for Software. It is an information for all
streams. Infact in my office Majority of the computer is running on Ubuntu
for the past one year. I have been promoting Opensource software among my
professional community. This is an information to pass it on to others who
are likely ot be benefitted. If you feel this information is leading to
patent troll. I am sorry you are misconcieved this information.
Intellectual Property rights includes Patents, Trademark, Copyright,
Design, Geographical Indications and Integrated Circuits layout protection.
Even your blog is copyrighted,*Copyright © 2007-2010 Arun's blog. Sorry to
mention personally. Our Patent Act is not granting patents to software
perse. So Source codes are protected under Copyright. Even when you want to
promote your opensource software, you need a trademark[brand name]. You
have to keep that brand name proctected in order to promote your software.
Members in the list will also develop integrated circuits which can be
protected. Designs which you are creating using opensource software is
protected under copyright and if it is a industrial design it can be
protected under Designs Act.Intellectual property is not only Patents.
Please look at the world with broad perspective. I have seen many  people
nowadays using open source software for their business/profession. That
doesn't mean that they are not entitled to protect their
products/designs/logo.*



In that paragraph above I see 7 mentions of the word 'protect' or variations 
thereof. I don't see anything about Value-enhancement, not just 
Value-protection ...so please do clarify how do you propose on using all the 
kinds of IP protection you listed above to go ... beyond the conventional 
defensive deployment of IP ... and to ... transforms it from a cost-centre to 
a profit-centre. ?


In case you missed the point, let me spell it out for you -- We in the 
opensource community are *not* against things like copyright -- In fact, we are 
very vocal about the who does or does not have the right-to-copy. What we find 
disgusting though is treating software as 'property' and using ^Intellectual 
Property^ as means to profit from.


People in the software business /ideally/ ought to monetize on software and 
services around it instead of monetizing IP.


cheers,
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Re: [Ilugc] Workshop/Seminar on monetising IP

2010-11-08 Thread Arun SAG
On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 11:13 PM, Chandran chand...@lawgonindia.com wrote:

 Infact in my office Majority of the computer is running on Ubuntu for the
 past one year. I have been promoting Opensource software among my
 professional community.


 Nice.

I am sorry you are misconcieved this information.  Intellectual Property
 rights includes Patents, Trademark, Copyright, Design, Geographical
 Indications and Integrated Circuits layout protection. Even your blog is
 copyrighted,*Copyright © 2007-2010 Arun's blog. Sorry to mention
 personally. Our Patent Act is not granting patents to software perse. So
 Source codes are protected under Copyright. Even when you want to promote
 your opensource software, you need a trademark[brand name]. You have to
 keep that brand name proctected in order to promote your software. Members
 in the list will also develop integrated circuits which can be protected.
 Designs which you are creating using opensource software is protected under
 copyright and if it is a industrial design it can be protected under
 Designs Act.Intellectual property is not only Patents. Please look at the
 world with broad perspective. I have seen many  people nowadays using open
 source software for their business/profession. That doesn't mean that they
 are not entitled to protect their products/designs/logo.*


 So this workshop/seminar is not about software patents? Will you be
discussing about various Free software licenses ? By the way the as you have
mentioned intellectual property is a broad term, please refrain from using
it. Request you read the following article on Intellectual property by
stallman http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/not-ipr.html .The term IP made me
to think about your firm is actually lobbying for Software patents. Thank
you.

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Re: [Ilugc] Workshop/Seminar on monetising IP

2010-11-08 Thread steve

Hello Chandran,

On 11/08/2010 11:31 PM, Chandran wrote:

On Monday 08 November 2010 11:22 PM, Chandran wrote:

[...snip...]

 Please mention why you wanted to copyright your posts in your
 blog._*Copyright © 2010 lonetwin.net*_ . You wanted to protect your
 writings. That's it. Please read my explanation to SAGarun's mail.

Thanks for pointing that out. I've just been too lazy to update the footer since 
I hardly think there is anything worth copying there, but I've updated it. Feel 
free to 'monetize' on my IP (under the terms of the cc-by-sa copyright license, 
of course !).



This is an information about OpenOffice.org- a trademark registered by
Sun Microsystems, Inc. They are protecting their opensource software
using intellectual property only. visit
http://www.openoffice.org/about_us/summary.html

*Trademark*:

Because of trademark issues, OpenOffice.org must insist that all public
communications refer to the project and software as OpenOffice.org or
OpenOffice.org 1.x, and not OpenOffice or Open Office.
OpenOffice.org and the OpenOffice.org logo are trademarks or registered
trademarks of Sun Microsystems, Inc. in the United States and other
countries.



Yes ! The most successful and profitable open source company, Red Hat, also does 
that.


Copyright and trademarks are tools to protect the identity of artifacts (I 
*hate* the term Intellectual /Property/). They are employed so that one does not 
confuse the source of the artifact.


Copyrights and trademarks are tools for *identification* _not_ monetization.

Unfortunately, years of greed and subsequent brain-washing has led to the belief 
that ideas are 'property' that have 'owners' who can assert their claim over the 
idea.


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Re: [Ilugc] Wireless USB Broadband provider in and around Chennai

2010-11-08 Thread Asokan Pichai
I have used Tata Photon and Reliance and both at the same point of
time so I can compare. Both worked reasonably well. But the Tata
device consistently gave better speed and robust connection. Reliance
dropped fairly often; while the Tata almost never.

I used it on a Mac and on a Linux Machine (Ubuntu, wvdial)

CAVEAT This is based on my usage in Chennai only. /CAVEAT

But in one respect Reliance is in my blacklist. Their service at the
service centers is abyssmal.
I needed copies of old bills and they simply said We cannot give
you. (This is not the only one reason).

Finally I surrendered my Reliance data card in mid-Sep. That required
a bit of song and dance finally I
did it. For one week after that I was called up by higher and higher
(in their own words) level folks
from Reliance asking why. I had to repeatedly tell them to refer to my
detailed letter.

After that stopped, the calls for over-due bills -- for October
started--I am routinely called two-three times a week
and everyone is so unsurprised at the fact I have surrendered the card
and still getting bugged and billed.

I am hoping to fix it when I visit Chennai, but based on past meetings
at the Besant Nagar Reliance Center it wont be
easy. SIGH


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Re: [Ilugc] Workshop/Seminar on monetising IP

2010-11-08 Thread Siddhesh Poyarekar
On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 11:22 PM, Chandran chand...@lawgonindia.com wrote:
 Please mention why you wanted to copyright your posts in your
 blog._*Copyright Š 2010 lonetwin.net*_ . You wanted to protect your
 writings. That's it. Please read my explanation to SAGarun's mail.

I did and I feel that you're trolling, not due to lack of knowledge,
but just to defend your stand. Let me explain:

 The post is not intended only for Software. It is an information for all 
 streams. Infact
 in my office Majority of the computer is running on Ubuntu for the past one 
 year. I
 have been promoting Opensource software among my professional community.

*Using* Ubuntu has nothing to do with IP protection. You're using it
because it works for you. You're using this reference just to
disillusion readers.

 This is an information to pass it on to others who are likely ot be 
 benefitted. If you
 feel this information is leading to patent troll. I am sorry you are 
 misconcieved this
 information.  Intellectual Property rights includes Patents, Trademark, 
 Copyright,
 Design, Geographical Indications and Integrated Circuits layout protection.

From the above, only Patents, Trademarks and Copyright are categories
that constitute IP. Others (Design, Geographical Indications, IC
layout) are specific examples of IP. You again combined the two to
make it seem as if IP is a very broad term and there are so many
things included in it.

 Even your blog is copyrighted,*Copyright (c) 2007-2010 Arun's blog. Sorry to 
 mention
 personally.

Unnecessary.

 Our Patent Act is not granting patents to software perse. So Source codes are 
 protected
 under Copyright. Even when you want to promote your opensource software, you 
 need
 a trademark[brand name]. You have to keep that brand name proctected in order 
 to promote
 your software.

This still does not justify you posting about this topic on this list.
Your email did not have any reference on the significance of IP
protection in the FOSS sense, so you cannot even claim this.

 Members in the list will also develop integrated circuits which can be 
 protected.

Members in this list will get married, have babies, go on vacations,
get indigestion, etc. Do we start discussing those topics on this list
too?

 Designs which you are creating using opensource software is protected under 
 copyright and
 if it is a industrial design it can be protected under Designs 
 Act.Intellectual property is not
 only Patents. Please look at the world with broad perspective. I have seen 
 many  people
 nowadays using open source software for their business/profession. That 
 doesn't mean that
 they are not entitled to protect their products/designs/logo.*

See above. Your email had nothing to do with the core interest of the
list. If anything, it was offensive to a number of members of this
list due to the nature of its content and the implied meaning of IP.
If you intend to write such emails to this list, it would be a good
idea to add an [OT] tag. Despite that tag, it would be a marginal call
IMO. The list admins might want to clarify on that.

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Re: [Ilugc] FOSS Lab Setup in Vellalar College of Engineering and Technology, Thindal, Erode District

2010-11-08 Thread senthilraja P


 Today, myself and Mr. Balamurugan setup a 25 seat FOSS lab for Vellalar
 College of Engineering and Technology, Thindal, Erode District, (
 http://www.vellalar.com/Engg/index.htm) for the department of MCA using
 Fedora-13.

 For any feedback, pl. contact Prof. L.M.Palanivelu / HOD-IT regarding the
 FOSS Lab implementation.


First of all, i welcome this initiative of setting up exclusive foss lab.  I
have few thoughts to share here..

   - Setting up a foss lab should NOT be an end in itself.  Is there any
   result oriented projects planned?
   - FOSS should NOT be confined within a lab.  Rather, we should explore
   how we can use foss applications for day to day use of the college life.
   eg:  intranet mail servers, intranet wiki, intranet forums, intranet blogs,
   a knowledge repository,,   Please excuse me, if these are already done in
   your college.  (In my observation most colleges dont even have an intranet
   mail server).
   - There should institutional mechanism, where the department consistently
   works on a FOSS project, irrespective of students studying.  ie, students
   should learn and contribute for the project, and when before he gets passed
   out, he has to train the incoming students..  by this way, we can generate
   continous pool of resources to work on any FOSS related projects.
   - There are many issues where Linux based machines could not be
   integrated to a windows network. (this is one of the reason why windows
   servers are preferred over linux)..  Colleges can work on these issues with
   colloboration from corporates.

These are just my thoughts..  although there are so much awareness created
in indian colleges, there is no visible FOSS product coming out, bcoz, we
lack product development skills.  Knowing a technology is different from
developing a product.   Unless we aspire to develop products (either for
research purpose, or for requirements of our society), we could not have the
required leap in FOSS movement in india.

Regards,
Senthil
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[Ilugc] [OT] JUG-C : WeaverFX session 13th Nov, 10am ThoughtWorks, Chennai

2010-11-08 Thread rajmahen...@gmail.com
Open Java community JavaUserGroup-Chennai (
https://sites.google.com/site/chennaijug/ ) is hosting a session on a new
Open-source RIA framework WeaverFX www.weaverfx.com on 13th November
(Saturday) @ 10am ThoughtWorks, Ekkatuthangal, Guindy.


About WeaverFX:
The lighter faster Rich Internet Application and Swing Application
Development Framework. If you know XML and basic Java, your can weave
WeaverFX :)


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Re: [Ilugc] Wireless USB Broadband provider in and around Chennai

2010-11-08 Thread விக்னேஷ் நந்த குமார்
On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 7:09 AM, Asokan Pichai paso...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have used Tata Photon and Reliance and both at the same point of
 time so I can compare. Both worked reasonably well. But the Tata
 device consistently gave better speed and robust connection. Reliance
 dropped fairly often; while the Tata almost never.

 I used it on a Mac and on a Linux Machine (Ubuntu, wvdial)

 CAVEAT This is based on my usage in Chennai only. /CAVEAT

 But in one respect Reliance is in my blacklist. Their service at the
 service centers is abyssmal.


+1
I migrated recently from postpaid to prepaid recently, for which I had to
visit the Reliance shop and Reliance World several times, in the past 2
months.

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[Ilugc] FOSS Project - Development Requirement

2010-11-08 Thread Subbu.R Subramanian

There is a requirement to develop a portal using FOSS tools.

www.precisionit.co.in is a IT services company and
the largest sales / support partner for HP / IBM products.

The company has supplied and currently maintaining over 60,000 various 
IT equipments
like laptops,desktops, servers, printers, UPS etc for their customers 
spread across India.


The company is  panning to build a portal to log breakdowns, monitor the 
service progress,

plan spare part movements, plan man power requirements etc.

Was given to believe that there are  FOSS tools already in place which 
can meet most of the requirements

in compliance with ITIL processes.

If any of the member/s of this group is interested in evaluating the 
various available tools,
suggest the best one to deploy, carryout customization requirements etc 
by taking this

as a project / freelance/ consulting, please let me know.

With warm regards
Subbu R Subramanian
Consultant 


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www.legendsystems.co.in
+91 9283137349


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