Re: [Ilugc] Need help - HTML to PDF with Custom Fonts
Hi Shrini On Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 2:30 AM, Shrinivasan T wrote: > > Looking for a solution to automate the process of converting XHTML to A4 > and B7 size PDFs so that we add a web interface, host in server, ask > authors to upload epub or xhtml file to get PDF files as outputs. > > If processing text to HTML/PDF is an acceptable option, there are tools like AsciiDoctor[1] that are wonderful. It allows you to generate HTML, PDF, EPUB etc. from marked up plain text. And the mark up very simple, it doesn't come in the way of content creation. It is a free software release under MIT license. You can give it a try. Thanks [1] http://asciidoctor.org/ -- Thank you Balachandran Sivakumar ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines
[Ilugc] [OT Very much] Flood help
Hi, A few friends are stuck near Guduvancheri and have been asking for help for accomodation and food. I hear that there is some accommodation provided by SRM university. In case your friends are affected, please pass on SRM University is accommodating ppl in their buildings Whoever standed n GST pls go For Food Cntact Mr.Jogani 9840042152 PS: I know this is totally unrelated to Free Software or GNU/Linux. But I am requesting that this be accepted on humanitarian grounds. Also to state, I am no way related to SRM university, just passing on the info. -- Thank you Balachandran Sivakumar ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines
Re: [Ilugc] File & folder comparing open source software
Hi, On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 2:56 PM, Siva prabu wrote: > > > Hi Friends, > > Please suggest best file & folder comparing open source software for > Windows 8 and Ubuntu 12.04. > > In Ubuntu, for folder comparison, you can use mc (midnight commander). For file comparison, meld or if you want to do it from editors, ediff(emacs) and vimdiff(vim). Thanks -- Thank you Balachandran Sivakumar ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines
Re: [Ilugc] Co-ordinator for Ilugc
Hi, On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 6:19 AM, A. Mani wrote: > On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 6:11 AM, Raman Pandarinathan > wrote: > > As Bharathi used > > to say repeatedly co-ordinator is office-boy, let us not complicate > > this simple system. > > > That is sexism! > > It is a figure of speech, and in the very literal sense in this context, when Bharathi was the co-ordinator, he called the role(his role) "Office-boy", no sexism there. In my opinion, we don't have to be politically correct here - Technical correctness is sufficient. Concentrating on Political correctness and the use of gender neutral words, in a language that is not the first language, can interrupt the flow of thought for the actual message that is being conveyed. No one wants to discriminate against anyone in this lug. Thanks. > Best > > A. Mani > > > > Prof(Miss) A. Mani > CU, ASL, AMS, ISRS, CLC, CMS > HomePage: http://www.logicamani.in > Blog: http://logicamani.blogspot.in/ > http://about.me/logicamani > sip:girlprofes...@ekiga.net > ___ > ILUGC Mailing List: > http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc > ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: > http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines > -- Thank you Balachandran Sivakumar ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines
Re: [Ilugc] Linux Malware Scanner?
Hi, On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 3:18 PM, Vikas Tara wrote: > But we don't need one for linux, right? > > http://www.amnesty.org/en/news/detekt-new-tool-against-government-surveillance-questions-and-answers-2014-11-20 > > Not really. We do need it because there are more and more people using GNU/Linux resulting in more targetted attacks. And, I see a dangerous trend of people adding their normal login to sudoers with ALL privileges. So, when novice to moderate users are involved, it is useful to have such tools. Thanks -- Thank you Balachandran Sivakumar ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines
Re: [Ilugc] In defense of Free Software
Hi, On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 10:55 PM, Prasanna Venkadesh wrote: > "I speak of Richard Stallman, progenitor of the free software movement and > creator of GNU (as in GNU/Linux, the most widely deployed operating system > in the world, and GNU bash, the tool that has caused so much shellshock > Nice write up - Though I don't give RMS a hero status, his contributions are invaluable. Irrespective of his contributions code-wise, his ideas/philosophies etc inspired a whole generation of people and just bashing him because some software has a bug is ridiculous. Those people really need to grow up. Thanks -- Thank you Balachandran Sivakumar ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines
Re: [Ilugc] [OT] Tamil or no Tamil sparring ring
Hi, On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 2:04 PM, Manokaran K wrote: > On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 1:39 PM, Balachandran Sivakumar > wrote: >> Hi, > > Pls do not hijack threads. > Hijack ??? -- Thank you Balachandran Sivakumar ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines
Re: [Ilugc] Event Report- Software Freedom Day at Trichy Sept 17 2014.
Hi, On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 11:33 PM, Manokaran K wrote: > 2014-09-18 23:15 GMT+05:30 L. Guruprasad : > > In fact, you could've posted the translation yourself - it would've > taken less number of lines than your objection! > What makes you think he knows Tamil. Probably, he doesn't know how to read tamil well enough, and was not able to understand that email. And could have sent that email out of that frustration. Since we know that there are non-tamil people on the list, It is basic courtesy to send emails in English, or at least a translation of the contents in the same email.Thanks -- Thank you Balachandran Sivakumar ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines
Re: [Ilugc] Awesome WM[ was Linux Mint Cinnamon]
Hi, On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 10:03 AM, Mohan Sundaram wrote: > In the same vein... > > I tried out Awesome WM 18 months ago and am hooked on to it. This WM is > standard in Arch, fluxbox etc. It started as a tiling manager and now has I didn't quite catch that - Fluxbox in itself is a WM, and it is an excellent one :) So,Did you mean to say Awesome works on top of fluxbox as well ? > > I installed it on Ubuntu. This is a highly configurable WM with the > complete menu system and keyboard/ mouse shortcuts programmed in Lua. One > has to launch services and applets explicitly. Strict systray > implementations only work from Ubuntu. So some things like calender widget, > BT etc do not work. > Quite good. Unity is bloated and a light weight, nice WM is definitely needed. Fluxbox is what I have been recommending :) I'll try Awesome. Thanks -- Thank you Balachandran Sivakumar Arise Awake and stop not till the goal is reached. - Swami Vivekananda ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines
Re: [Ilugc] multiple routing ?
Hi Krishna, On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 1:00 PM, km wrote: > Thanks for the quick reply. > Let me be more clear. All the four network interfaces are in the same > subnet with different IPs and the same default gateway. > > Can it be configured in such a way that the traffic gets distributed > between the network interfaces if one of them is busy ? > Thought I don't have a solution right away, I vaguely remember the LARTC explaining something very similar - Here is the link[1]. It might just be useful. BTW, please do not top post - Do an trimmed, interleaved reply. Thanks [1] http://www.lartc.org/ -- Thank you Balachandran Sivakumar Arise Awake and stop not till the goal is reached. - Swami Vivekananda ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines
[Ilugc] Fwd: [Inpycon] [X-post] :PyCon India 2014 Early bird Registrations are open
Hi, Early bird registrations open for Pycon India 2014. Thanks -- Forwarded message -- From: vijay kumar Date: Mon, May 12, 2014 at 8:14 AM Subject: [Inpycon] [X-post] :PyCon India 2014 Early bird Registrations are open To: Mailing list for the PyCon India conference , bangpyp...@python.org, pythonp...@googlegroups.com, chenna...@googlegroups.com, mu...@googlegroups.com, ncr-python...@python.org Hi, Early bird Registrations are open for PyCon India 2014. http://pyconindia2014.doattend.com/ Please spread the word and book your early-bird tickets. With Thanks VIjay ___ Inpycon mailing list inpy...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon -- Thank you Balachandran Sivakumar Arise Awake and stop not till the goal is reached. - Swami Vivekananda ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines
Re: [Ilugc] Atom and Vim
Hi, On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 9:10 AM, A. Mani wrote: > https://medium.com/p/433852f4b4d1 > > > In Vim, commands can be composed but that is not the case in Emacs and Atom. > From the article, it is the last line that is quite important to anyone who talks about creating the next best text editor - "it needs to learn everything that 1976 has to teach — not just the lesson of Emacs, but also the lesson of vi." I don't think I could have put it as succinctly. Again thinking, will it not be possible to write a Emacs lisp functions that would let us delete/copy/cut till end of paragraph etc. ? I somehow think it should be possible. Thanks -- Thank you Balachandran Sivakumar Arise Awake and stop not till the goal is reached. - Swami Vivekananda ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines
Re: [Ilugc] [OT] Filing taxes for freelancing work
Hi, On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 3:49 PM, Christopher wrote: > and for the benefit of dumb f**trds like MADAN > > Check your bank transactions when you get a USD wire and when you get a > paypal transaction > Can someone(Bharati/Shrini/Raman) ban him for his abusive language? Thanks -- Thank you Balachandran Sivakumar Arise Awake and stop not till the goal is reached. - Swami Vivekananda Mail: benignb...@gmail.com Blog: http://benignbala.wordpress.com/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines
Re: [Ilugc] Install_ mathics _reg
Hi, On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 11:41 AM, mani maran wrote: > Dear Sir/ Madam > Can you help me how to install sage and mathics in my ubuntu 12.04. > If you had pasted the very same questions in your search engine, you would have got the results below. I would like to reiterate that ilugc is not a "free technical support" group. It is a group that will guide when you are stuck in your efforts to use free software. Which means, you have already taken some effort/steps and you are not able to solve your problem with those steps/effort. Also, finding answers to our problems using search engines is a good skill to have. It will definitely help us. Thanks [1] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SAGE [2] http://www.mathics.net/doc/manual/installation/ -- Thank you Balachandran Sivakumar Arise Awake and stop not till the goal is reached. - Swami Vivekananda Mail: benignb...@gmail.com Blog: http://benignbala.wordpress.com/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines
Re: [Ilugc] Help_reg
Hi, On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 2:30 PM, mani maran wrote: > Dear Sir/Madam > How to edit the pdf file in ubuntu 12.04, any software available. > Can you please set an appropriate subject to your emails ? Instead of Help_reg, you can possibly set the subject to "Editng PDF files in GNU/Linux". That way, it is easy for people on the list to know what the mail is about. Thanks -- Thank you Balachandran Sivakumar Arise Awake and stop not till the goal is reached. - Swami Vivekananda Mail: benignb...@gmail.com Blog: http://benignbala.wordpress.com/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines
Re: [Ilugc] [OT] Unemployed Engineering Graduates
Hi, On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 11:23 AM, Manokaran K wrote: > > Is one not allowed to have a different point of view? Perhaps family values > would not allow it!! :) > Of course they can have a different point of view. That's what freedom is all about :). Just like Mani feels family values are backward(at least that's how I read that statement), in my opinion calling family values "backward" doesn't make sense. Thanks -- Thank you Balachandran Sivakumar ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines
Re: [Ilugc] [OT] Unemployed Engineering Graduates
Hi, On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 9:35 PM, A. Mani wrote: > On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 12:27 AM, Rajagopal Swaminathan > wrote: > > People should not be slaves of backward oppressive systems linked to > 'family values' and such and should work towards changing them. Family values are backward and oppressive ? Wonderful!, Just wonderful! -- Thank you Balachandran Sivakumar Arise Awake and stop not till the goal is reached. - Swami Vivekananda Mail: benignb...@gmail.com Blog: http://benignbala.wordpress.com/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines
Re: [Ilugc] ILUGC Meetings in cyberspace
Hi Arun, On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 11:30 PM, ARUN PALANIAPPAN wrote: > I agree... There are GLUGS.. > But, I told that I WISH TO ATTEND ILUGC MEET... > I can understand/relate to what you are saying, but as discussed, there might be practical issues in conducting the meetings online. > > I am not much aware of any GLUG near me... > In case to start one, again I am just a End User of Linux and hardly know > anything beyond that!! > Initially, all of us start as very basic end users. But if you start a GLUG near you and spread the news(word-of-mouth, or GLUGs etc), you will soon find people (from beginners to experts) joining you. And gradually, with the effort of all you guys, all of you will learn more and benefit. So, you need not be worried about being just an end user :) > > There are people who have to travel 10s of kilometers to get good water... > Do you think GLUGS are more nearer?? > > Definitely :) To get water, you need it to be available. For GLUGs, you just need to decide to start one if there is none near by - So, yes, starting(and hence participating in) a GLUG is far easier than getting water :) . Thanks -- Thank you Balachandran Sivakumar Arise Awake and stop not till the goal is reached. - Swami Vivekananda Mail: benignb...@gmail.com Blog: http://benignbala.wordpress.com/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines
Re: [Ilugc] Serve a Particular url from Line 2 Permanently
Hi, On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Mohamed Mushab wrote: > Dear All, > > i am having 2 Internet line. > > Line 1 reliance > Line 2 Airtel > http://www.lartc.org/lartc.html - Check out the section on "Routing for multiple uplinks/providers" - But from what I know, I doubt if you can do it based on an URL. Based on ip addresses may be possible, but not very sure about URLs. Thanks -- Thank you Balachandran Sivakumar Arise Awake and stop not till the goal is reached. - Swami Vivekananda Mail: benignb...@gmail.com Blog: http://benignbala.wordpress.com/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines
Re: [Ilugc] ILUGC Meetings in cyberspace
Hi, On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 1:58 PM, ASHOK KUMAR wrote: > dont relate to your expenses on techie session. my opinion is face to face > meeting will give more interactive oriented rather than any > medium(online)... > Can you do a proper trimmed posting(which means do not do top posting) ? And I can relate to only what I have experienced(I can only guess that mail was directed at me and not at Balasubramaniam Natarajan) And if you look at my response again, I said the same thing - physical meetings are better(though we can have fully interactive sessions online as well). Thanks -- Thank you Balachandran Sivakumar Arise Awake and stop not till the goal is reached. - Swami Vivekananda Mail: benignb...@gmail.com Blog: http://benignbala.wordpress.com/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines
Re: [Ilugc] ILUGC Meetings in cyberspace
Hi, On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 11:47 AM, Balasubramaniam Natarajan wrote: > Hi > > My house is near central and say if I take the auto to come to IIT Chennai > due to my personal reasons I have to shell out ~ RS. 250 one way and would > take equally that much back to my house. I cannot shell out RS 500 just on Same thing happens to me in Bangalore :( Travel takes the maximum expense. > travel alone :-(, Since I am interested in sharing and gaining knowledge I > feel it is more apt and easy for many people to join the meeting should > this happen over the web. > We should possibly have physical + web, if at all. Because we are still not a country where most people have unlimited high speed broadband. So, people might have difficulty having it over the web. But physical + web would mean have a phone/conferencing system at the venue and it needs to be of a reasonable quality so that the people on the phone/conference can hear every one in the venue. This setup, I think, might get quite expensive. But we have quite a lot of people on this list who have expertise is these kinds of setups(conferencing/hardware setup). They might have some suggestions. But there will be one pertinent counter point - Meetings over the web are not the same as physical/real meetings where you actually meet fellow volunteers. Because, when we have the free software user groups meetings, it is not just the agenda that is followed - You meet other people with similar interests as you and have a small chat and by means of that get to know of more projects/tools etc. It is this means of gathering/spreading knowledge that makes user group meetings interesting. When you have the meetings over the web, you will lose out on those aspects. Of course, mostly my own thoughts - But good to consider when we take these kind of decisions :) Thanks -- Thank you Balachandran Sivakumar ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines
Re: [Ilugc] ILUGC Meetings in cyberspace
Hi, On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 12:42 PM, Prakash Prasad wrote: > Why can't we use skype or record it by the presenter (self) and upload in > youtube? The presenter can always be called offline for quiries. > Because skype isn't a free software - At least for free software user group meetings, we should restrict to using free software. And, before that, please do not top post. Thanks -- Thank you Balachandran Sivakumar Arise Awake and stop not till the goal is reached. - Swami Vivekananda Mail: benignb...@gmail.com Blog: http://benignbala.wordpress.com/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines
Re: [Ilugc] Creating a facebook group for ilugc
Hi, On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 5:04 PM, techno craze wrote: > > Now, i have another suggestion.. why cant the group server be used for > ILUGC? > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GroupServer > Mailman is good enough. You can probably try using gmane. Thanks -- Thank you Balachandran Sivakumar Arise Awake and stop not till the goal is reached. - Swami Vivekananda Mail: benignb...@gmail.com Blog: http://benignbala.wordpress.com/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines
Re: [Ilugc] [OT] Reply for mail - newbies and FOSS-reg
Hi Arun P, On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 9:18 PM, ARUN PALANIAPPAN wrote: > > Newbies never expect answerers to bend or bow. All they expect is Answer / > Solution to their Questions / Problems. When he said "bend or bow", what he meant was, they expect direct answers to their questions. And you agree to it as well. Now, there are 2 things - Paid technical support and informal user groups. I will explain these two further down. > > Yes. It happens. > But, people ask questions here just because they are not aware. All those > who ask Questions are not experts in Computer. (Some may be new to computer > itself). They may not be able to answer you completely. > Let's be frank - If someone can subscribe to a mailing list and post a question, do you tell that they cannot type it in their web search engine and get a result ? They just want readymade answers(They => people who behave that way, not all newbies). They don't want to work towards an answer. > In case you need more information for attempting to resolve the issue, you > may provide them with a guideline on how to get that EXTRA information. > Isn't that spoon feeding when it gets very basic ? > For instance, when you go to a mechanic shop for repairing your car / bike, > you just tell him / her about the problem in your own language... Or as if > what you know. > And he will never ask you back details of technical specifications. Rather > he will ask you and get answers from you in yiur own understanding. > Is this applicable only for them? > No, it is not applicable only for them. This is where we get into paid technical support(like the mechanic shop) and user groups. Fore eg. if an Applie iPad misbehaves and you take it to a Apple center(what ever it is called), they don't ask you technical questions. Same with any tech support for computers as well. But let's say there is an online forum for people who work on Thermodymanics. If someone asks "What do you mean by 2nd law of thermodynamics", do you think people will patiently answer ? Most likely, they will ask him to look it up in the web. The same happens here. >> A few have been "fearless" and their knowledge base has blossomed, if >> this is their "fear" then IMO they should stick with whatever OS they >> are comfortable with. > > Then, May I request you to kindly brief me the purpose of Install Fests, > SFD, etc? > Install fests and SFDs are to create awareness. But with the awareness, what is needed is effort. No one learns anything without putting in effort. > > None in the world had switched to anything for the benefit of humanity nor > benefit of world. Infact, even researchers switch things to experiment and > find whether that is beneficial. > I fail to understand your point. >> They are not doing FOSS any favor by switching >> to Linux/*BSD. > > Do you mean that everyone who switches over to Linux must do something to > FOSS ? Misunderstanding. Most newbies who expect immediate answers, assume that they have done GNU/Linux a favour by agreeing to use it. I have seen that attitude among dozens are people who are exposed to GNU/Linux for the first time, after using other operating systems for a few years. > If that is the case, should those who did not contribute switch back to > Nasty windows? Again then, what is the aim of FOSS and where is it heading? > Misunderstanding. > Final Question... > Suppose some enthusiastic homemaker switches over to Linux, do you expect > him / her to learn Software Engineering to solve the problems? What type of > contribution do you expect? > What most people expect is to use common sense, and not to treat the list members as some "people with a strict responsibility to give instant answers" > P.S: In case this mailing list is meant only for Software professionals / > Linux career enthusiastics, I request you to kindly intimate me the same > and, unsubscribe me from this list. > This list is for people who are interested in learning and using free software. This is list is not a "free" tech support center. Thanks -- Thank you Balachandran Sivakumar Arise Awake and stop not till the goal is reached. - Swami Vivekananda Mail: benignb...@gmail.com Blog: http://benignbala.wordpress.com/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines
Re: [Ilugc] Apologies for posting FDP/Workshop event mails in ILUG-C
Hi On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 10:55 PM, A. Mani wrote: > > Further the member(s) in question should inform the list well in advance > and obtain an implicit no objection certificate on the mailing list. > Why do you think this is needed ? What does an "implicit" no objection certificate mean ? What if people object to someone doing it individually ? (may be out of jealousy, nothing valid). What if the poerson is requested to present something short notice ? Do you think we should not talk about/on behalf of ilugc even to genuinely interested people. That's unfair. > But ILUGC may be involved in Free software events subject to clearance > from the mailing list. > From all 3000 members ? Just 1 member ? What if 5 guys agree and 5 guys disagree ? Instead of doing our best to promote free software, and appreciating people who earnestly do that, we are talking about totally unnecessary rules here. At least Raman's points look quite reasonable, but I personally do not agree with these as a necessity. Thanks -- Thank you Balachandran Sivakumar Arise Awake and stop not till the goal is reached. - Swami Vivekananda Mail: benignb...@gmail.com Blog: http://benignbala.wordpress.com/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines
Re: [Ilugc] Creating a facebook group for ilugc
Hi Shrini, On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 1:12 PM, Shrinivasan T wrote: > Thanks for all the comments. > > > Though we create facebook group, the mailing list will remain as it is. > Unless every post in facebook is posted(automatically/however) to this list, this is a very bad and disappointing decision. People who are only on the list *might be* put to disadvantage. > We lack physical volunteers for any of the activities. > Please check the archives on the replies for any "Call for X". > > To make more interactions with people and to get more > volunteers/participants/visibility, > created a facebook group. > > https://www.facebook.com/groups/149125865297604/ > > Join there if you are interested. > It is not a question of interest - We are all here because we are interested. It is a question on what facebook would do with the data. It is enough trouble having to worry about what gmail will do with my data(for people like me who use gmail). Hope you understand. Thanks -- Thank you Balachandran Sivakumar Arise Awake and stop not till the goal is reached. - Swami Vivekananda Mail: benignb...@gmail.com Blog: http://benignbala.wordpress.com/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines
Re: [Ilugc] Creating a facebook group for ilugc
Hi Shrini, On Sun, Sep 15, 2013 at 11:32 PM, Shrinivasan T wrote: > The following are my personal views. > > 1. Many ILUGC members have fear on posting to mailing list. They have told > many times to me in person. They may have to learn many guidelines. They > feel that facebook has no guidelines. > I don't know what's there to fear. When we make mistakes, people tell so - in plain words and we correct ourselves. That's part of the learning. And how is having no guidelines good ? Is having no law at all good ? I don't think so. What we can do is, make the guidelines newbie friendnly. But no guidelines at all is bad. > 2. They are already in lot of facebook groups and they are contributing a > lot. > Tons of questions/answers, news sharing, event sharing/contributing > happening there. > Are people finding email more difficult than FB ? I don't know. > 3. It is very tough to see the low contributions from the people > contributing the mailing list, for any of the "Call for X". Call for > speakers, Call for SFD demo stalls etc. > I can think of why - A lot of us are not from Madras. I am myself from Bangalore, and a native of Trichy. Only rarely do I visit Madras. > > 5. What if we have a facebook group and via it we get more > questions/answers/interactions/events/participation/volunteers as it seems > very easy for many potential people. There are chances for good things to > happen. Why not to explore. > The concept of lugs started when Internet was not this wide, there were far less users of GNU/Linux and documentation, if any, was quite bad. So, people needed the help of others who had been in that situation to guide them. But that time has passed. Most GNU/Linux distros work on a wide range of hardware, the installation is straight-forward and they are quite user friendly. In general, lugs aren't the same as generic "user" forums, where people expect to be spoon-fed. Historically, you go to a "lug" with a question when you are in a situation where you have tried everything you know, done your (re)search on the web and you are still stuck. ilugc too has been this kind of list. What we can do is, make it newbie friendly. We can help newbies both with the problem they are facing and with the guidelines. > > In the age of internet, the support we give is very less, while most of the > content is available on various forums/blogs/stackoverflow etc. Do we need > archiving? How are we using ilugc mail archives? > Yes, we do need archiving.. The content available on forums etc. is available because they decided to archive. Archiving contributes to the existing knowledge base, irrespective of how less the support we give is. For eg., the other day Noorul Islam helped another member with the usb dongle(or something similar). Now that it is archived, it will benefit everyone. > > Ex: only 3 SFD stall submission till two days ago. Once I shared them in > other facebook groups, we got 12 now. > We can ask those who volunteered newly to join ilugc :) I personally do not prefer going the facebook way. We should look at ways to improve the list and make it newbie friendly. Of course, it is just my opinion. Thanks -- Thank you Balachandran Sivakumar Arise Awake and stop not till the goal is reached. - Swami Vivekananda Mail: benignb...@gmail.com Blog: http://benignbala.wordpress.com/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines
Re: [Ilugc] Apologies for posting FDP/Workshop event mails in ILUG-C
Hi , On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 7:19 AM, Baskar Selvaraj wrote: > Dear all, > > My sincere apologies for posting the FDP/Workshop Event Report mails in > ILUG-C in the recent times. > > As I came to know through Mr.Shrinivasan, the members of the ILUG-C > community were against the term 'on behalf of ILUG-C' used in my posts. > Very sad to see this. Personally, I would prefer to see your mails on ilugc. It helps in letting a larger audience know that more colleges are moving towards FOSS. What's confusing me is, you are actually promoting ilugc by adding that tagline and so why should anyone object to this ? Sometimes, we should stop going by the book and look at what we stand for. We, as a group that encourages and promotes the use of free software in all walks of computing, should be supportive of people and organisations that promote this very cause. Baskar has been doing exactly that for so many years on practically a showstring budget. And, after doing the event on his own, at his own expense he has been kind enough to add the ilugc banner to the events. Let's be practical and thank him for all the good he has done. Thanks -- Thank you Balachandran Sivakumar Arise Awake and stop not till the goal is reached. - Swami Vivekananda Mail: benignb...@gmail.com Blog: http://benignbala.wordpress.com/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines
Re: [Ilugc] Creating a facebook group for ilugc
Hi, On Sun, Sep 15, 2013 at 12:17 PM, DEVI P wrote: > What are the open source online job opportunities? What are the key skills > required? Can anyone please reply > The subject of this email is "Creating a facebook group for ilugc". Now, tell us, how is your mail related to the subject ? Please do not hijack the threads by asking questions not relavant to the thread. Start a new one(with proper subject) and ask this question there. Thanks -- Thank you Balachandran Sivakumar Arise Awake and stop not till the goal is reached. - Swami Vivekananda ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines
Re: [Ilugc] Echoing the current command
Hi, On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 9:51 PM, Arun Khan wrote: > On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Sahil ModGill > > $ !$ > date > Tue Sep 10 21:49:07 IST 2013 > !$ is a bash variable that expands to "last term/string/word in the previous command". When you did "ls -l network-*", !$ would point to network-* - The last term of the command. When you did "date", it is single-word command. So, !$ would point to that. When you do $ !$ You are asking bash to execute the last term of the previous command. It would work for date because there is an executable with such a name in your $PATH. It wouldn't work for network-* because that is not an executable. Thanks -- Thank you Balachandran Sivakumar Arise Awake and stop not till the goal is reached. - Swami Vivekananda Mail: benignb...@gmail.com Blog: http://benignbala.wordpress.com/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines
Re: [Ilugc] Need to work Linux Commands In Windows System
Hi, On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 5:57 PM, kasiviswanathan nathan wrote: > Dear All, > > I want to practice Linux commands through my windows > system. Please suggest any console or editor. > The best option is to run GNU/Linux on a VM. If that is not possible, you can give MobaXterm[1] a shot. It is a single executable that has most of what we need, including an XServer. It is GPL licensed[2]. Thanks [1] http://mobaxterm.mobatek.net/ [2] http://mobaxterm.mobatek.net/support/licenses.html -- Thank you Balachandran Sivakumar Arise Awake and stop not till the goal is reached. - Swami Vivekananda Mail: benignb...@gmail.com Blog: http://benignbala.wordpress.com/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines
Re: [Ilugc] website opens a blank page from HTTP, it works correctly from HTTPS
Hi, On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Mohamed Mushab wrote: > *Hi this is the output of wget command from the server machine > > By using wget http://www.annauniv.edu* > > general@soldier:~$ wget http://www.annauniv.edu > --2013-07-24 11:38:24-- http://www.annauniv.edu/ > Resolving www.annauniv.edu... 115.249.106.136 > Connecting to www.annauniv.edu|115.249.106.136|:80... connected. > HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 403 Forbidden > 2013-07-24 11:38:24 ERROR 403: Forbidden. > Looks like HTTP is being blocked - most likely a content scan. > *By using wget https://www.annauniv.edu* > > general@soldier:~$ wget https://www.annauniv.edu > --2013-07-24 11:38:33-- https://www.annauniv.edu/ > Resolving www.annauniv.edu... 115.249.106.136 > To connect to www.annauniv.edu insecurely, use `--no-check-certificate'. > Seems to allow this. But to check if there is some content scan being done, just try once more with --no-check-certificate. that is wget https://www.annauniv.edu --no-check-certificate . Thanks PS: Please avoid top posting. Use interleaved posting style. -- Thank you Balachandran Sivakumar Arise Awake and stop not till the goal is reached. - Swami Vivekananda Mail: benignb...@gmail.com Blog: http://benignbala.wordpress.com/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines
Re: [Ilugc] What changes we need in the list?
Hi, On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 10:32 AM, Manokaran K wrote: > On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 11:08 PM, ThiaguWinId wrote: > > 3. Except for purely technical queries and responses, if your post is > longer than 140 characters, then just write a blog about it and post the Lol - By any chance, were you the one who gave this idea to twitter as well ;) On a serious note, let's not restrict the length. Otherwise, I guess I will agree with you. Thanks -- Thank you Balachandran Sivakumar Arise Awake and stop not till the goal is reached. - Swami Vivekananda Mail: benignb...@gmail.com Blog: http://benignbala.wordpress.com/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines
Re: [Ilugc] Fwd: Drupal Groups Chennai Drupal Community: Drupal at ASAN Engg College with IEEE
Hi, On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 3:44 PM, Ganesan Gopal wrote: > Can anyone say which is the best tutorial for learning drupal.? I dono how > to start with drupal. If anyone knows please tell which is the best site > for learning drupal within one day. > 1. Please do not top post 2. Please do not hijack threads 3. Euclid said, "There is no royal roadto geometry" - Meaning there is no shortcut for learning. You can't learning anything within one day. 4. To answer your question, the best resource is drupal's documentation available at their site. -- Thank you Balachandran Sivakumar Arise Awake and stop not till the goal is reached. - Swami Vivekananda Mail: benignb...@gmail.com Blog: http://benignbala.wordpress.com/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines
Re: [Ilugc] What changes we need in the list?
Hi Arun, On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 10:00 PM, ARUN PALANIAPPAN wrote: > > > There is a Search Engine called Google, I agree. But, Googling cannot solve > problems. It requires the intervention of some humans! > > Most people are not interested in Researching. They need their problems > solved. > > I don't know whether you are a computer professional or not. But let's take this as an example. Let's say there is a student of mechanical engineering who goes home from college and and tries to solve a problem in thermodynamics. He is stuck somewhere. What would be the best approach ? Posting the question in some forum pertaining to thermodynamics and waiting for someone to respond, or trying to seach through the web to see if some similar problem has been faced by someone and helped by others ? I would believe it is that latter. No one would want to wait until someone in some forum to replies to their query. So, why should it be any different in the world of computers in general, and GNU/Linux or free software in particular ? I will also tell why I had to give such an explanation - I have been trying to help people use GNU/Linux for 7-8 years now. From what I have observed, whenever we give a direct reply to people's query, they almost always forget what the problem was, and how the problem was solved. After a while they re-encounter the same problem, and they again expect(even demand) someone else to fix it because that was how it was done the previous time. There is no learning there. The objective of this list is to promote the use of free/libre software, specifically GNU/Linux. But when we say "use" GNU/Linux, it means that you are comfortable using the system and you can do basic troubleshooting. I will further explain it with an example. Let's say someone wants to use a more recent version of firefox than what's shipped with the distro. They download, and launch it and it says xulrunner.so is missing. If they had googled for that, it would have been the very first link. But people would not have done that and would have simply sent a mail to this list. That is what I call as "expecting to be spoonfed". That, in my opinion is bad. > And, yet there is another fact... All those people in the World (atleast in > India) do not know Coding (and they don't need to)!! > Agreed :) But all of us, when trying out something new, should put in the effort to learn and then use it. > > Had GUI been not available till date, I think that hardly 10% of the people > would have bought or used Computers! > > Suppose for a Question, your answer is completely in Code. > Will all people understand how to try the Code? > Another valid point. But people reply based on what they know. If you ask me how would someone know the IP address of their machine(of course a bad question :) ), I would probably say "run ifconfig". That's not because I want to reply with a "command", but because that's what I am used to. If someone is used to doing it using a GUI, they would respond as well. So, the person who asked it now knows 2 ways of doing it. > P.S: I am sorry if any part of my mail hurts anyone. I am also sorry for a > longer mail. me too :) A really long response. Sorry and Thanks -- Thank you Balachandran Sivakumar Arise Awake and stop not till the goal is reached. - Swami Vivekananda Mail: benignb...@gmail.com Blog: http://benignbala.wordpress.com/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines
Re: [Ilugc] jQuery UI effects explanation
Hi, On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 4:51 PM, Ambarish Santhanam Gmail wrote: > Hi > > Girish's mails blocked! > Ok, here we go :). Sriram has blocked Girish's mail from his inbox. Not from ilugc. So, you will receive his emails. But there is one other thing that you need to take care of - Top posting. When you reply to an email in ilugc form Gmail, the cursor is positioned at the top of the email text that you are replying to. If you just start typing and hit reply, the list receives your mail in what is called a top-posted way. The right way to respond to emails in ilugc(and most other GNU/Linux User Groups) is, hit reply, remove the unnecessary parts from the email you replying to. Retain those parts of the email that you are quoting, do an inter leaved response. For eg, if an email has 10 lines and you are replying to lines 1,2,3 and line 8, remove all other lines. Type your reply relevant to lines 1,2,3 below those lines, and the reply relevant to line 8 below that. This style of posting is called inter leaved posting. This wikipedia article[1] gives a good explanation of various posting styles. > Iam a Newbie and I have learnt a lot from his posts. I got a very rough > response for my first post but support came my way too. I would kindly No one expected such harsh response for your post :) So, don't take it negatively. Thanks [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style -- Thank you Balachandran Sivakumar Arise Awake and stop not till the goal is reached. - Swami Vivekananda Mail: benignb...@gmail.com Blog: http://benignbala.wordpress.com/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines
Re: [Ilugc] How did I fix a bug in kubuntu installer?
Hi Shirni, On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 6:45 PM, Shrinivasan T wrote: > > Read more at > http://goinggnu.wordpress.com/2013/07/04/how-did-i-fix-a-bug-in-kubuntu-installer/ > > I shared the details on how I fixed the small bug in kubuntu installer. > Good find :) And good that you fixed it and documented how you fixed it. On a related note, I very recently had a discussion with some guys who thought you need to be a super efficient C programmer to be able to contribute to any of the GNU/Linux related projects/distros. We should probably look at creating awareness in this area. We can be a valuable contributor even if we are good at art work/GIMP(or what ever the tool people use for that). We need to spread the word that all kinds of skills are needed to make a distro successful. Thanks -- Thank you Balachandran Sivakumar Arise Awake and stop not till the goal is reached. - Swami Vivekananda Mail: benignb...@gmail.com Blog: http://benignbala.wordpress.com/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines
Re: [Ilugc] What changes we need in the list?
Hi Shrini, On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 11:57 AM, Shrinivasan T wrote: > > Rarely we are getting the mails from newbies. > > I am getting many complaints as we are not newbie friendly. > I agree that we should be newbie friendly. But, there must be a limit at which we should stop. That is, we should help them learn and use GNU/Linux. But we should never spoon-feed them. For eg, if someone runs into an issue in configuring a web server, we shouldn't simply say do steps x, y, z and you will be done. Asking them to show evidence of what they have already done is not being unfriendly. It just makes sure that they are not using the list as a free support service. When people violate list guidelines, we do tell them that it is incorrect, and suggest the right way to do it. That again is not being unfriendly, it is just part of the learning. May be the tone used in such responses look stern. We can try to do something about that. Also, we need to reduce the amount of unnecessary noise on the list. At least on the list, we should stop showing hatred and inflated egos. If people don't like mails from someone, let them just filter those mails out. If people do like mails "about" someone, they can simply delete that email and go ahead. > When the experienced people are raising many issues and they want the list > to be fully moderated, > There won't be any discussion happening here. > I am not for moderation. We have been a self-governing list, and occasionally, we do run into issues. But I guess we have enough mature people to come out of it. Thanks -- Thank you Balachandran Sivakumar Arise Awake and stop not till the goal is reached. - Swami Vivekananda Mail: benignb...@gmail.com Blog: http://benignbala.wordpress.com/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines
Re: [Ilugc] New Website Development
Hi Ambarish, On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 11:04 PM, Ambarish Santhanam Gmail wrote: > > 1. How to ensure that my site works in all browsers and OS? > You can use any of the free/open CSS frameworks like bootstrap[1] or pure[2]. Basically, they have a "reset" css, which removes the differences between the layouts in various browsers. You can use just that, and use your own customi CSS for the rest. Or, you can use all their CSS features and customise just the colours used in the website to suit your company's colour themes. > 2. How to make a Pull down Menu. > You can do these with jQuery/YUI or some such library. Bootstrap too supports these(IIRC, botstrap's JS is written over jQuery). I would suggest that you try out possible options and use what suits you the best. Please do not just go by what we suggest :) Thanks [1] - Bootstrap - http://twitter.github.io/bootstrap/ [2] Pure CSS - http://purecss.io/ (This is the CSS part of the YUI3 library). -- Thank you Balachandran Sivakumar Arise Awake and stop not till the goal is reached. - Swami Vivekananda Mail: benignb...@gmail.com Blog: http://benignbala.wordpress.com/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines
Re: [Ilugc] PDF XL and HTML reporting
Hi, On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 5:22 PM, steve wrote: > > I disagree with the statement that it was an overdose. The dose of sarcasm > doled > out by Ashwin was in perfect proportion to the dose of incoherent half-baked > tech gyaan Girish relives himself off on this list. > Is sarcasm as a fitting response to half-baked tech gyaan ? IMHO, No. > Why the double standards ? If one has a big enough problem with Ashwin's reply > so as to voice it, one should have the same problem with Girish's > mis-information, personal propaganda and soopbox rants. > No double standards that I could see. People have been asking Girish to stop his incoherent mails, and I am doing the same to Ashwin's sarcasm. > If on the other hand, ignoring Girish is something you can do, I think you can > do the same for Ashwin's sarcasm laden replies ...ah ! or do you think Ashwin > needs to be treated differently than Girish ? > Yes, filtered out Ashwin's responses as well, just like I do Girish's. I, nor anyone else, need to apply different rules on this list to anyone. Thanks -- Thank you Balachandran Sivakumar Arise Awake and stop not till the goal is reached. - Swami Vivekananda Mail: benignb...@gmail.com Blog: http://benignbala.wordpress.com/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines
Re: [Ilugc] PDF XL and HTML reporting
Hi, On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Ashwin Dixit wrote: >> > Guru-ji, as you requested without using words, I have done my homework. > Since you have not yet uttered any enlightened words on PDF generation in Overdose of sarcasm is just as bad. It is easier to ignore emails, I guess. Let's not stoop very low, in trying to correct others. Thanks -- Thank you Balachandran Sivakumar Arise Awake and stop not till the goal is reached. - Swami Vivekananda Mail: benignb...@gmail.com Blog: http://benignbala.wordpress.com/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines
Re: [Ilugc] 1D1C - wc
Hi, On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 7:55 PM, Kiruthika wrote: > Do some one know what is the equivalent command for ctrl+r > (reverse-i-search) in tcsh shell ??? > reverse-i-search is not related to wc. When you are replying to a mail/thread what you ask/tell should be related to the topic of discussion of that thread. Replying to a thread and posing a question not related to thread is called "thread hijacking". The list guidelines of ilugc prohibit that. So, can you please start a new thread and ask this question ? Thanks -- Thank you Balachandran Sivakumar Arise Awake and stop not till the goal is reached. - Swami Vivekananda Mail: benignb...@gmail.com Blog: http://benignbala.wordpress.com/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines
Re: [Ilugc] hanging on futex call
Hi, On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 6:45 PM, Narendran K wrote: > All, > > I am writing a program that uses select call to check if a packet is > available in the socket to read. the program has also a timer running > (setitimer) and the resulting SIGALRM is handled using a handler. > Though I am not directly answering your question, I would suggest using epoll(and non-blocking sockets). So, you will be notified of data when it arrives. You don't have to block for some timeout secs(or milliseconds). Once you have a EPOLL_IN notification, you can use recv() and read all available data. Thanks -- Thank you Balachandran Sivakumar Arise Awake and stop not till the goal is reached. - Swami Vivekananda Mail: benignb...@gmail.com Blog: http://benignbala.wordpress.com/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines
Re: [Ilugc] 1D1C
Hi, On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 8:20 PM, Arun Khan wrote: > > However, it might also be worthwhile to start a blog and start putting I think Bharati Subramanian started a blog for his ODOC series, to which posts could be made via emails. May be he will have some pointers on how to do that. Thanks -- Thank you Balachandran Sivakumar Arise Awake and stop not till the goal is reached. - Swami Vivekananda Mail: benignb...@gmail.com Blog: http://benignbala.wordpress.com/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines
Re: [Ilugc] lampp/xampp alternative
Hi, On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 12:52 PM, Ramesh Murukesan wrote: > hi, yesterday i meet many issues on lampp. so i google it and find the What kind of issues ? There are thousands of websites that run Python/PHP/Perl with MySQL and Apache running on GNU/Linux. So, when you said you ran into issues, do you mean to say you hit new bugs? Thanks -- Thank you Balachandran Sivakumar Arise Awake and stop not till the goal is reached. - Swami Vivekananda Mail: benignb...@gmail.com Blog: http://benignbala.wordpress.com/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines
Re: [Ilugc] Fwd: [ubuntu-in] list of indian adopters of linux
Hi, On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 2:31 PM, Rajagopal Swaminathan wrote: >> > I wont.. > If you want it added, add it yourself, otherwise, leave it. If you are not interested in adding it, why do expect someone else to add it ? > > I bloody well know but I am not interested in learning too many new things > at this stage of my IT life which spans over 3 decades. > > So no preachings to me please :) > Three decades in IT, and still can't do interleaved trimmed posting in the new interface, without having to "learn" ? I am surprised ;). (Of course tongue-in-cheek). Thanks -- Thank you Balachandran Sivakumar Arise Awake and stop not till the goal is reached. - Swami Vivekananda Mail: benignb...@gmail.com Blog: http://benignbala.wordpress.com/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Microsoft Office 365 for Education made mandatory for approved institutions by AICTE
Hi, On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 9:50 PM, A. Mani wrote: > On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 9:31 PM, Rajagopal Swaminathan > wrote: > > We can go for a PIL and there are many other ways of wrecking havoc on AICTE. > Good to know that :) AICTE, should have been a neutral body, with no vendor association. But given that they have already partnered with MS, we need to put up a united, joint effort. We aren't aware of what the ilugd/fosscom members have planned for this. It would be good if you could as well share the decision taken there. And as Bharathi said, we need to get help from a lot of other organisations across India. Bhaskar, it is true that you have been migrating/already migrated a lot of colleges in TN to using free software. But since this problem is pan-India, I guess we need to make quite an effort to avoid partnering en-mass with microsoft. Thanks -- Thank you Balachandran Sivakumar Arise Awake and stop not till the goal is reached. - Swami Vivekananda Mail: benignb...@gmail.com Blog: http://benignbala.wordpress.com/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] [OT] Php, MySQL people help me
Hi, On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 3:03 PM, ThiaguWinId wrote: > What I need ? > # for 4200 students > # I could export the data in spread sheet or CSV form > # the parents can login and view the details [ marks , attendance, remarks ] > Should the solution be definitely tied to Drupal ? If not, you can try Fedena[1]. It is a school/college management software, written in RoR. You can have your school website separately, and link this fedena from the website. I remember another thread going on in the list about setting it up. That too would be useful in case you are going with it. Thanks [1] http://www.projectfedena.org/ -- Thank you Balachandran Sivakumar Arise Awake and stop not till the goal is reached. - Swami Vivekananda Mail: benignb...@gmail.com Blog: http://benignbala.wordpress.com/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] My experiences with SpamCheetah
Hi, On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 11:52 AM, Girish Venkatachalam < girishvenkatacha...@gmail.com> wrote: > > That is the client part. This SMTP client is actually the SMTP server > of the sender. > > I didn't get that. How does the SMTP client become the SMTP server of the sender ? > I have written a C SMTP proxy that uses UNIX semantics doing a fork(), > and uses poll(2) to ferry packets between the client and server. > > Wouldn't epoll(I guess the *BSD equivalent is kqueue) be a better option ? > As and when my experience unfolds more info I shall post to LUG. > > Sure do. It is worth spending time understanding how the basic protocols work, and most of the text based protocols are quite easy to understand. Thanks PS: GMail has made its new-style compose and the default. So, if the reply(quoting style) looks odd/confusing, I apologise. I will move to using some a mail client very soon. -- Thank you Balachandran Sivakumar Arise Awake and stop not till the goal is reached. - Swami Vivekananda Mail: benignb...@gmail.com Blog: http://benignbala.wordpress.com/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] problem with umbrello window
Hi, On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 2:17 PM, Joe Steeve wrote: > On Saturday 19 January 2013 12:34 PM, Balachandran Sivakumar wrote: >> I have worked in a big organisation that uses concepts of >> Model-Driven-Engineering very effectively, and uses model-to-code in >> production. And it has been quite successful. > > How does it work when you refactor your design? > I am not sure if I got your question. You refactor your design, run make build, you have code generated again. Run make, the code gets compiled and the binaries are out. Thanks -- Thank you Balachandran Sivakumar Arise Awake and stop not till the goal is reached. - Swami Vivekananda Mail: benignb...@gmail.com Blog: http://benignbala.wordpress.com/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] problem with umbrello window
Hi, On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 10:07 AM, Joe Steeve wrote: > > I dont have suggestions to fix your problem. However, IMHO: > > On Saturday 12 January 2013 11:09 AM, சுதன் | suthan wrote: >> The Code generation wizard window does not open properly in windows. > > UML is best when it is used to communicate a design idea to fellow > peers. The usefulness of model-to-code practices/methods is debatable. > In most cases, a white-board works better than the tools. > I have worked in a big organisation that uses concepts of Model-Driven-Engineering very effectively, and uses model-to-code in production. And it has been quite successful. Not just that, UML, aided with U2TP covers your product and test designs. And there are tools that take MSCs as inputs and generate test cases. This way you get really nice path coverage for testing. > Students should be taught to design by modelling rather than using a > tool to generate code. > Agreed :) Unfortunately, students are not taught to design at all. In most colleges, the "lab exercise" is an exercise in copying the same code written by a senior and getting full score in for the lab sessions. Thanks -- Thank you Balachandran Sivakumar Arise Awake and stop not till the goal is reached. - Swami Vivekananda Mail: benignb...@gmail.com Blog: http://benignbala.wordpress.com/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] multiple ssl on single ip
Hi, On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 7:34 PM, Balachandran Sivakumar wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 7:30 PM, suresh rajasekaran > wrote: >> > > Yes, you can do that if you use TLS. Thanks > Also, you would need SNI support. If you are talking about apache, the recent versions work ok. Also, the browsers need to support SNI. Thanks -- Thank you Balachandran Sivakumar Arise Awake and stop not till the goal is reached. - Swami Vivekananda Mail: benignb...@gmail.com Blog: http://benignbala.wordpress.com/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] multiple ssl on single ip
Hi, On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 7:30 PM, suresh rajasekaran wrote: > > Hi, > > Can any one tell me is it possible for to configure two ssl > certificate for two different domains on a single ip ? Yes, you can do that if you use TLS. Thanks -- Thank you Balachandran Sivakumar Arise Awake and stop not till the goal is reached. - Swami Vivekananda Mail: benignb...@gmail.com Blog: http://benignbala.wordpress.com/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] ToD - OpenVPN [OT] politics
Hi Girish, On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 10:21 AM, Girish Venkatachalam wrote: > On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 8:31 AM, Mohan Sundaram wrote: > > Even in ILUGC In my tenure since 2006 August I am yet to find someone > who did not call my projects "a mere effort". > I don't understand that statement. Why is a project not an "effort" and why do you think calling it an "effort" is derogatory ? This is just my opinion - but every project is an effort towards some goal. Thanks -- Thank you Balachandran Sivakumar Arise Awake and stop not till the goal is reached. - Swami Vivekananda Mail: benignb...@gmail.com Blog: http://benignbala.wordpress.com/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] CGI
Hi, On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 3:55 PM, Suraj Kumar wrote: > The creator of Catalyst no longer recommends Catalyst. They have created > Mojolicious - a kickass web framework that puts itself ahead of most Catalyst was a bit frustrating(and bulky) when I tried it. I agree that we shouldn't be using it :). > > Equally comparable is Dancer http://www.perldancer.org/ - very similar > syntax and all. But I haven't tried this out although there are great > reviews about dancer. > +1. Recently, I had to work with dancer for something at office. And it is really simple, and doesn't come in the way. It is more like Flask in Python. Thanks -- Thank you Balachandran Sivakumar Arise Awake and stop not till the goal is reached. - Swami Vivekananda Mail: benignb...@gmail.com Blog: http://benignbala.wordpress.com/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Linux drop support for i386 chips
Hi, On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 9:30 PM, Mohan L wrote: > > It is not x86. The title clearly says it is just 386 not x86. > IIRC, on Debian, uname -m (or uname -a) used to return i386 for x86 machines(Or was always i686 ?) and hence the confusion Thanks. -- Thank you Balachandran Sivakumar Arise Awake and stop not till the goal is reached. - Swami Vivekananda Mail: benignb...@gmail.com Blog: http://benignbala.wordpress.com/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] [ RIP : RAJ MATHUR ] Shocking and sad news
Hi, 2012/12/13 Girish Venkatachalam : > Sorry but who is this gentleman? > Sad news indeed. He was active in the Bombay GLUG IIRC. Also on IRCs. Thanks -- Thank you Balachandran Sivakumar Arise Awake and stop not till the goal is reached. - Swami Vivekananda Mail: benignb...@gmail.com Blog: http://benignbala.wordpress.com/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Unity Dash Mess
Hi, On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 10:29 PM, prasannatsmkumar wrote: > Ubuntu is helping Linux to reach as many people as possible. Lets not > confuse and scare users (leave it to microsoft and apple). Lets educate Unfortunately, Ubuntu is just doing more harm than good by intruding upon once privacy. And it is promoting itself, not GNU/Linux. Though I am not able to locate that specific link, there was a suggestion from a Ubuntu developer a while back that Ubuntu should drop the 'L' word(referring to Linux) in Firefox etc. so that it just stands as Ubuntu and not as Ubuntu Linux something. This, IMHO, is skewed up thinking. Ubuntu supports a lots of newer hardware(the sole reason my laptop runs ubuntu, but soon to switch over), but it just can't do such stupid things as integrating Amazon stuff enabled by default. Thanks -- Thank you Balachandran Sivakumar Arise Awake and stop not till the goal is reached. - Swami Vivekananda Mail: benignb...@gmail.com Blog: http://benignbala.wordpress.com/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Real LiveCD now LiveUSB OpenBSD
Hi, On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 4:26 PM, Girish Venkatachalam wrote: > > I am sure you can easily get going with OpenBSD if you try the LiveCD. > Nice effort. The Live USB page's install instructions are wel detailed. Will try it out. Thanks -- Thank you Balachandran Sivakumar Arise Awake and stop not till the goal is reached. - Swami Vivekananda Mail: benignb...@gmail.com Blog: http://benignbala.wordpress.com/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Foss.in started and see it live now
Hi, On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 11:40 AM, Arun Khan wrote: > > Nice initiative -but the streaming video is staccato. I have a 1Mbps > symmetric service - my desktop is the only system active on the LAN. > > What about others in this list? > Same experience for me too. Thanks -- Thank you Balachandran Sivakumar Arise Awake and stop not till the goal is reached. - Swami Vivekananda Mail: benignb...@gmail.com Blog: http://benignbala.wordpress.com/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Fwd: Issues in BSD Development
Hi, On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 11:44 AM, Arun Khan wrote: > On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 10:36 AM, Balachandran Sivakumar > wrote: >> > > To the best of my knowledge and the deployments I have seen, RHEL is > meant for server setups. Thus, the development tools may not be part > of the "default" installations. That is the USP Redhat has built up > for RHEL. > Redhat and "long back" made me think he was talking about RH9(pre-fedora) and before and hence my reply. Otherwise, if it is a server install with RHEL, I agree with what you say. Thanks -- Thank you Balachandran Sivakumar Arise Awake and stop not till the goal is reached. - Swami Vivekananda Mail: benignb...@gmail.com Blog: http://benignbala.wordpress.com/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Fwd: Issues in BSD Development
Hi Arun, On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 1:11 AM, Arun Khan wrote: > On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 9:24 PM, Girish Venkatachalam wrote: >> I agree with Marc(what is surprising here?). Long ago I installed Redhat >> and was shocked to find that there was no make in the default install. > > Why do you need 'make' in the default install when there are pre-built > RPM package files for everything that Redhat provides in it's distro? > It may not be for what ever is already in the distro's repositories. What if I write a simple C application, with the source code over 3-4 files ? I would use make. I guess it is alright to expect make in the default install. Thanks -- Thank you Balachandran Sivakumar Arise Awake and stop not till the goal is reached. - Swami Vivekananda Mail: benignb...@gmail.com Blog: http://benignbala.wordpress.com/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] how tmux simplifies life
Hi, On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 10:00 PM, ashwin wrote: > Girish Venkatachalam writes: > > > tmux is not that all great idea as you are describing. tmux simply builds upon > the idea of program called screen. I dont know how improving upon a idea can > be > called a great program. screen has been around for long long time. > If the improvements make the job easier/better it certainly can be called a great program. For eg, the GUI, originally was an improvement over the command line interface, but there are millions of people who call GUIs great, but look down upon command line interface!. Thanks -- Thank you Balachandran Sivakumar Arise Awake and stop not till the goal is reached. - Swami Vivekananda Mail: benignb...@gmail.com Blog: http://benignbala.wordpress.com/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Is it possible for 15000 student can attend online quiz at the same time?
Hi, On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 11:27 AM, Arun Venkataswamy wrote: > > My experience has been very bad. > Moodle is extremely heavy on resources. > Failed miserably for a friend of mine with just 300 concurrent users Oh, I forgot the moodle part when I replied initially. I am sorry. When I said apache can handle 15k connections, I was talking just about apache, not in combination with moodle. Thanks -- Thank you Balachandran Sivakumar Arise Awake and stop not till the goal is reached. - Swami Vivekananda Mail: benignb...@gmail.com Blog: http://benignbala.wordpress.com/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] [kanchilug] Is it possible for 15000 student can attend online quiz at the same time?
Hi, On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Shrinivasan T wrote: > On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 9:50 AM, Dhastha wrote: > > Do a performance test using jmeter. > I haven't used jmeter, and so I can't comment on what all it does. But for apache, the tool that is normally used is 'ab' - The apache benchmark[1]. But just to answer your question, apache, with proper configurations, will be able to handle 15k. Thanks [1] AB - http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/programs/ab.html -- Thank you Balachandran Sivakumar Arise Awake and stop not till the goal is reached. - Swami Vivekananda Mail: benignb...@gmail.com Blog: http://benignbala.wordpress.com/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] [OT] Best first language
Hi, On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 2:47 PM, Arun Venkataswamy wrote: > programming some 24 years back. Any better choices? A language which will > be a foundation for her to explore and make better choices later and > a language which is not imposing and is fun? > This is a tough question, because most of us program with the language that we use, because it is fun :) Having said that, python would be really nice. You can use the interpreter, and do everything from 1+1 and print "Hello" to somewhat complex stuff. Another option(given that she is just 6 years) might be LOGO(KTurtle ? ) with which kids can draw alphabets, small diagrams etc and will be fun. Thanks -- Thank you Balachandran Sivakumar Arise Awake and stop not till the goal is reached. - Swami Vivekananda Mail: benignb...@gmail.com Blog: http://benignbala.wordpress.com/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] My first contribution to an open source project (to minix)
Hi, On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 9:21 AM, Girish Venkatachalam wrote: > Minix is long dead. Nobody uses it.It was a college experiment. > > Do some hacking elsewhere. > > Don't waste time beating dead horse and find out uncompetitive areas like some > companies do. > Can you explain why it is a waste of time ? Do you think there is nothing that could be learnt from it ? In what detail have you looked at the Minix source code to conclude that it is a waste of time to contribute to that ? There are still people who contribute to proejcts from 70's and 80's, just for fun. Likewise, this is done for fun as well. If you don't like Minix, leave it at that. Please do not discourage good work done by someone. > They want to focus on African markets, South America and colleges. I now know > why. They are afraid of competing with the best talent. > Minix was a pet project of AST, intended at helping college students. It doesn't matter whether its focus is on African markets or Asian markets. There are a lot of things that college students can gain from Minix. -- Thank you Balachandran Sivakumar Arise Awake and stop not till the goal is reached. - Swami Vivekananda Mail: benignb...@gmail.com Blog: http://benignbala.wordpress.com/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Keyboard access for headless app
Hi, On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 4:56 PM, Arun Venkataswamy wrote: > > #!/bin/sh > exec exec >/dev/tty1 > exec 2>/dev/tty1 > /path/to/app > Nice solution :) and quite a simple one in fact. Congrats! -- Thank you Balachandran Sivakumar Arise Awake and stop not till the goal is reached. - Swami Vivekananda Mail: benignb...@gmail.com Blog: http://benignbala.wordpress.com/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Keyboard access for headless app
Hi, On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Arun Khan wrote: > On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 10:11 AM, Arun Venkataswamy wrote: > > > You could hack an init script wherein you redirect std out/err to a > logfile(s) and run the program in the background like > [ -x /usr/local/bin/myCprog ] && /usr/local/bin/myCprog > 1>/var/log/myCprog.log 2>&1 & > You can append the line suggested by Arun Khan to /etc/rc.local. That way, you don't have to change/add anything in /etc/init.d/* -- Thank you Balachandran Sivakumar Arise Awake and stop not till the goal is reached. - Swami Vivekananda Mail: benignb...@gmail.com Blog: http://benignbala.wordpress.com/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Private IP in Public Network
Hi, On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 1:27 PM, Nirmalya Lahiri wrote: > Hi everyone, > today I have discover a critical network infrastructure which is almost > impossible. I believe very few people have seen this before. > This server fault link[1] talks about it :) It is odd, but people have observed something like this before. Thanks [1] http://serverfault.com/questions/59516/traceroute-includes-un-routable-ip -- Thank you Balachandran Sivakumar Arise Awake and stop not till the goal is reached. - Swami Vivekananda Mail: benignb...@gmail.com Blog: http://benignbala.wordpress.com/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] mx records for mailing list
Hi, On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 10:36 PM, Ganesh Kumar wrote: > Hi, I am setting up a mailing list and want some help on mx records. > Name lists.mydomain.comClass INType AStatus ActiveValue >54.xxx.xxx.xxx.xxxTTL 28800 > and > Name mx.mydomain.comClassINType MXPriority 10Status > ActiveValue lists.mydomain.comTTL 28800 > Is this correct? Even after almost 12hrs the mails are not received. I am > able to send(using sendmail), but not receive. The formatting looks a little messed up. Probably gmail did something "intelligently". For the DNS entries, this is how it should be in bind mydomain.comINA ip.addr.ess IN MX 10 mx.mydomain.com mx.mydomain.com IN A ip.address.of.mx Normally, lists will be on the same box as the mx. So, you need to add lists.mydomain.com IN CNAME mx.mydomain.com Having these should work ok for Bind. What DNS server are you running ? Based on that, the syntax would vary. But conceptually, this is how the entries should be. Thanks PS: If it is just mailing lists, and you are not very specific about the domain, you can use freelists - www.freelists.org -- Thank you Balachandran Sivakumar Arise Awake and stop not till the goal is reached. - Swami Vivekananda Mail: benignb...@gmail.com Blog: http://benignbala.wordpress.com/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] apache2 with SSL on ubuntu12.04 [mod_ssl.la] Error 1
Hi, On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 8:11 AM, Balachandran Sivakumar wrote: > desktop version and the mini OS. :( So, I can't comment here. But it > build ok on my 12.04 desktop version. Thanks > s/build/builds -- Thank you Balachandran Sivakumar Arise Awake and stop not till the goal is reached. - Swami Vivekananda Mail: benignb...@gmail.com Blog: http://benignbala.wordpress.com/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] apache2 with SSL on ubuntu12.04 [mod_ssl.la] Error 1
Hi, On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 8:30 AM, Balasubramaniam Natarajan wrote: > On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 8:13 AM, Balachandran Sivakumar > wrote: > >> > I am installing from Ubuntu mini OS so it is a stripped down version so we > need to manually install just what we require inside it. I tried I don't know what's the difference between the standard Ubuntu desktop version and the mini OS. :( So, I can't comment here. But it build ok on my 12.04 desktop version. Thanks -- Thank you Balachandran Sivakumar Arise Awake and stop not till the goal is reached. - Swami Vivekananda Mail: benignb...@gmail.com Blog: http://benignbala.wordpress.com/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] 3G out of the box
Hi, On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 11:35 PM, Arun Venkataswamy wrote: > On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 9:13 AM, Arun Venkataswamy wrote: > > suspect it is higher with other apps. Will post after checking this. Any > better way of testing upload speeds from the command line? > Just an indirect way that I could think of. Doing an scp will show the speed. If we scp a large file(say 50 MB), we should be able to get the speed from the progress output. But, I don't know how reliable that is as a tool to measure speed. Thanks -- Thank you Balachandran Sivakumar Arise Awake and stop not till the goal is reached. - Swami Vivekananda Mail: benignb...@gmail.com Blog: http://benignbala.wordpress.com/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] wanted - php and Python trainers
Hi, On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 12:03 PM, Thyagarajan தியாகராஜன் wrote: > > If a programme is conducted say for 60 hours , I charge X amount. > This may be high or low to that of professional charges what ilugc charges. > If I go with ilugc, I have to take a slice of a cake. > so the word 'cartel' is used in that sense . > Ok. I get what you meant. But the term as such, has a lot of negative connotation. >>>"As a member of ilugc, you cannot conduct training for people who have > approached ilugc". > > I do not understand how this is not possible. > I was asked by ilugc to do a training programme in Bhubaneswar Odissa > India which i did it. > To work in chennai, do any local permit needed ? > Gmail introduced a line break and misquoted my sentence. I meant to say, if ilugc does something restrictive, that is bad. But here, no one says you shouldn't do the training. So, ilugc is not being anti-competitive. > > On health grounds I am struck. Any way, will try to reach them out. > Just passing a email will be a courteous one. > In pursuit of a job, I thought ilugc will be helpful for people who > are ready to do the job in their own terms, for me it appears > otherwise. > Sorry about you being stuck on health grounds. But as Raman pointed out, in this case, the institute had wanted it to be under the banner of ilugc. May be, we could make that appoint up front when ever that is the case. >>>I agree that we need to put the clause back. But again, if people want > the training from ilugc, I don't think many people in ilugc would > object to that either. So, we need a slightly modified clause than > what it used to be > > Personally I am not against this training programme, I am against the > manner in which it is operated. Giving the email id to the list helps > many people to seize the opportunity.. > My plea would be, "please open the gates ;) for all ". > It would help genuine people to pursue it. But it also gives an opportunity for the "criminal elements" to exploit the person whose identity has bee shared :( There is no way we can ascertain that some person X(I am not talking about you. You have been around for a long time here, but others ?) is genuinely interested in promoting free software, and help people by training them. Thanks -- Thank you Balachandran Sivakumar Arise Awake and stop not till the goal is reached. - Swami Vivekananda Mail: benignb...@gmail.com Blog: http://benignbala.wordpress.com/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] wanted - php and Python trainers
Hi Thyagarajan, On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 8:34 AM, Thyagarajan தியாகராஜன் wrote: > > I guess this is not a private query which i raised!. I am asking for > "equal opportunity" to compete with the cartel formation by some members of > ilugc. I object to the use of the term "cartel" here. It was explicitly mentioned that we are contacting HoD, CS at DG Vaishnav college. A "cartel" would never do that. No one in ilugc said, "As a member of ilugc, you cannot conduct training for people who have approached ilugc". Only when such a scenario occurs, you can call it anti-competitive. People have been asking you to reach out to the HoD, and talk about your training. You said you do training as a job. Then, I don't understand the reluctance on your part to reach out to the people concerned. > Further the mailing list "trainers" clause is stripped from the guidelines, > as a trainer I want it and hence i am asking about that clause. > I agree that we need to put the clause back. But again, if people want the training from ilugc, I don't think many people in ilugc would object to that either. So, we need a slightly modified clause than what it used to be. Thanks -- Thank you Balachandran Sivakumar Arise Awake and stop not till the goal is reached. - Swami Vivekananda Mail: benignb...@gmail.com Blog: http://benignbala.wordpress.com/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] apache2 with SSL on ubuntu12.04 [mod_ssl.la] Error 1
Hi, On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 7:40 AM, Balasubramaniam Natarajan wrote: > Hi > > I am trying to compile and install apache2 with ssl support on Ubuntu 12.04 > when I am encountering the following error. > Can't you simply do apt-get install apache2 ? It has mod_ssl by default, IIRC. > I Installed OpenSSL with the following > cd openssl-1.0.1c > ./config --prefix=/usr zlib-dynamic --openssldir=/etc/ssl shared > make && make install > OpenSSL is installed by default. I guess we have to install libssl and/or libcrypto dev libraries for ssl based programs. > I am trying to install apache2 with the following > > cd httpd-2.4.3 > ./configure --enable-ssl --enable-so > make > gine_rand.lo ssl_engine_vars.lo ssl_scache.lo ssl_util_stapling.lo > ssl_util.lo ssl_util_ssl.lo ssl_engine_ocsp.lo ssl_util_ocsp.lo -lssl > -lcrypto -lrt -lcrypt -lpthread -ldl -export-symbols-regex ssl_module > libtool: link: `mod_ssl.lo' is not a valid libtool object > *make[4]: *** [mod_ssl.la] Error 1* I have 12.04 on my laptop. I can try this out later in the evening and share the results. Thanks -- Thank you Balachandran Sivakumar Arise Awake and stop not till the goal is reached. - Swami Vivekananda Mail: benignb...@gmail.com Blog: http://benignbala.wordpress.com/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] SSH based management tool
Hi, On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 11:20 PM, Balasubramaniam Natarajan wrote: > On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 10:41 PM, Rajagopal Swaminathan < >> > This ends up on my face after I started with puppet for more than 10 day Not a problem, right ? :) You can try out both and decide which one suits you better. If you specifically want python, then Ansible is a must, IMHO. But even otherwise, be sure to try it out. You might like it :) Thanks -- Thank you Balachandran Sivakumar Arise Awake and stop not till the goal is reached. - Swami Vivekananda Mail: benignb...@gmail.com Blog: http://benignbala.wordpress.com/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Acceptable behaviour? was (Re: Foss based solutions providing Organizations in TamilNadu)
Hi, On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 12:55 PM, Mehul Ved wrote: > On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 12:45 PM, Karthikeyan A.K wrote: >> Yup, you may not read it if you wish. It could put you into hell. :-)) > > I went around and looked at his emails to the list. Each of them seem > to be bordering either trolling or immature behaviour. It is just > adding noise to the list without adding any meaningful content. I too feel that it is adding a lot of noise, without useful learning. It will be nice if either Shrini or Raman can step in. Though I don't like moderation in general, this attitude of "I will behave the way I want, I don't care about others/guidelines" doesn't look right to me. Thanks -- Thank you Balachandran Sivakumar Arise Awake and stop not till the goal is reached. - Swami Vivekananda Mail: benignb...@gmail.com Blog: http://benignbala.wordpress.com/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Obtaining the view definition using a query
Hi,
On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 12:12 PM, Noorul Islam K M wrote:
> Balachandran Sivakumar writes:
>
>
> Is this what you are looking for?
>
> SELECT definition FROM pg_views WHERE viewname like 'yourviewname' and
> schemaname NOT IN ('pg_catalog', 'information_schema');
>
Thanks a lot :) That was what I was looking for.
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Re: [Ilugc] [X-Post] Emacs movies by Noufal
Hi, On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 12:01 PM, Karthikeyan A.K wrote: > Ah! There it goes, no VIM users to fight against this guy :-)) > > Waiting for good entertainment! > It is normally not a good idea to reply to cross-posts. And definitely not right to top post. But since you asked - vimcasts.org is the equivalent. Thanks -- Thank you Balachandran Sivakumar Arise Awake and stop not till the goal is reached. - Swami Vivekananda Mail: benignb...@gmail.com Blog: http://benignbala.wordpress.com/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] [X-Post] Emacs movies by Noufal
Hi, I am not sure if it was shared here. Noufal Ibrahim[1] has done a great work by creating screencasts that help people learn emacs, and customise it. They are located at the emacs movies[2] site. So, emacs beginners(and probably even long-time users) can benefit from it. A great many thanks to Noufal for that. Thanks [1] Noufal Ibrahim - http://nibrahim.net.in/ [2] Emacs movies - http://emacsmovies.org/ -- Thank you Balachandran Sivakumar Arise Awake and stop not till the goal is reached. - Swami Vivekananda Mail: benignb...@gmail.com Blog: http://benignbala.wordpress.com/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] Obtaining the view definition using a query
Hi, I am using postgres 8.2. I would like to know if there is a way to get the definition of a 'view' by running a query. For eg., to get the list of views, we can do something like(of course, there are other ways) "SELECT table_name from infromation_schema.tables WHERE table_type = 'VIEW'" Can we do something similar to get the definition of the view ? The normal way of doing it is by running "\d+ view_name" in the postgres database prompt. Thanks -- Thank you Balachandran Sivakumar Arise Awake and stop not till the goal is reached. - Swami Vivekananda Mail: benignb...@gmail.com Blog: http://benignbala.wordpress.com/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Foss based solutions providing Organizations in TamilNadu
Hi, On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 10:41 AM, Karthikeyan A.K wrote: > > We need to wake up. > We also need to wake up to the fact that top-posting is bad and that the list guidelines state the in a clear explicit, manner :) Please do not top-post. Use trimmed-interleaved posting. Thanks -- Thank you Balachandran Sivakumar Arise Awake and stop not till the goal is reached. - Swami Vivekananda Mail: benignb...@gmail.com Blog: http://benignbala.wordpress.com/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Need help for organizing a SFD event in my college
Hi, On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 9:26 PM, Sriram Ilango wrote: > Hello, > > interesting and innovative. For instance, we are planning to arrange booths > in which we will create Live USB Keys of Ubuntu and Fedora. > > Any other ideas? > GNU/Linux User Group Of TCE(Thiagarajar College of Engg. Madurai), and the GNU/Linux User Group - Madurai have been celebrating FStival, in commemoration of the software freedom day for about 7-8 years now. This is how it is done there. 1) First, they create pamphlets and posters, and spread the word to schools and colleges nearby. The posters are also pasted in all prominent places in colleges. 2) On the day of the event, they organise "demo stalls" - They are classified into various categories like day-to-day, type setting etc, programming and development etc. Students volunteer to handle these stalls and there by learn these tools well, and demo it. 3) In parallel, there will be demo of installations of Ubuntu/Fedora. 4) There will be booths where we burn images of various distros for the guests(They need to bring blank disks). 5) There will be talks on various topics(by volunteers, so the topics are decided by the speakers). So, you can start with some of these, and over the years, do other things as well. All the best. Thanks [1] glugot.tce.edu - GLUGOT [2] glug-madurai.org - GLUG-Madurai -- Thank you Balachandran Sivakumar Arise Awake and stop not till the goal is reached. - Swami Vivekananda Mail: benignb...@gmail.com Blog: http://benignbala.wordpress.com/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] HackFest 2012
Hi, On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Gopal Krishna wrote: > Dear All, > > Postfix with quota is working fine on postfix-2.8.8-1. > > > I installed squirrelmail plugin vaction and autoresponder in centos5.4 > x86_64. I configured everything (proftpd & ldap). In that, i select the > option vaction message. so it will not deliver to sender. > So, what has this got to do with the Hackfest ? Please reply to appropriate threads. Don't randomly reply to some thread. Thanks -- Thank you Balachandran Sivakumar Arise Awake and stop not till the goal is reached. - Swami Vivekananda Mail: benignb...@gmail.com Blog: http://benignbala.wordpress.com/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] [X-Post] Fwd: [Inpycon] PyCon India 2012: Important Dates
Hi, Important dates for the PyCon India 2012. Thanks -- Forwarded message -- From: Anand Chitipothu Date: Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 2:49 PM Subject: Re: [Inpycon] PyCon India 2012: Important Dates To: Mailing list for the PyCon India conference Can someone please take care of forwarding this message to all Python mailing lists in India? Thanks, Anand On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 3:04 PM, Anand Chitipothu wrote: > Hi, > > PyCon India 2012, the fourth edition of PyCon India conference is > being held in Bangalore,India from 28th September 2012 to 30th > September 2012. > > http://in.pycon.org/2012/ > > With two keynote speakers, Jacob Kaplan-Mos (co-author of Django) and > David Mertz (author of Text Processing with Python) and with lot of > interesting talks coming up (including 2 talks proposed by a core > CPython developer), this is promising to be best PyCon India ever. > > The last date for regular registration is August 16. Register soon. > > http://pyconindia2012.doattend.com/ > > If you are planning to submit a talk or a tutorial, the last date is > August 25. Talks can be submitted at: > > http://in.pycon.org/2012/funnel/pyconindia2012/ > > Conference Dates: > > Tutorial day - Friday, September 28, 2012 > Main Conference - Saturday-Sunday, September 29-30, 2012 > > Please spread this message to your friends, friends of friends and > whoever might be interested. Posting it message to various mailing > lists, internal mailing lists at your workplace, facebook/Google+ and > any other medium will help spreading the word. > > Thanks, > Anand ___ Inpycon mailing list inpy...@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon -- Thank you Balachandran Sivakumar Arise Awake and stop not till the goal is reached. - Swami Vivekananda Mail: benignb...@gmail.com Blog: http://benignbala.wordpress.com/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Linux carrier growth and solaris
Hi, On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 1:59 PM, Girish Venkatachalam wrote: > On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Murugan, Naresh Kumar > > Your mail also shows poor English and muddled thinking. > > Along with that you want to become a systems admin instead of a programmer. > > So it is all wrong. > I don't think we should be criticizing someone's English to this extent here. We are here to learn the technology from each other, not English grammar or sentence formation. There are people on this list who had their education in the vernacular language. Yet, they are making an attempt to communicate in English because that is the medium of communication on this list. We need to appreciate that and help them out, and in a gentle manner. > Anyway Solaris is old commercial UNIX. > Solaris is old and commercial. But when we talk about 'old', a great many things in the computer world are just as old - including emacs and vi. And there are free variants Open Indiana, Belenix, Joyent, Delphix - There are many of them out there. All of them stable and reliable. -- Thank you Balachandran Sivakumar Arise Awake and stop not till the goal is reached. - Swami Vivekananda Mail: benignb...@gmail.com Blog: http://benignbala.wordpress.com/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Linux carrier growth and solaris
Hi, On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Girish Venkatachalam wrote: > > 2) There are too many ways to do the same thing. No agreement, too many egos > to > satisfy and the project is being pulled in too many directions as > finding consensus when > there are too many interests is hard. Even in things like epoll or > inotify or udev or whatever > There are lots of ways to do a thing even in the UNIX world. It is the availability of options that makes it good. > > 4) Linux is immature and a kid compared to UNIX as it does not have > ftp, ssh or make or gcc or > gdb in base install. The very spirit of UNIX and engineer mindset is > lost in trying to make it > everything for everybody > That is in fact a very trivial thing. And if enough people make a request to their distro, they are going to make it available in the base install. The idea is to separate policy and mechanism - You have a mechanism to install, and you have a policy of what goes into the base install. It is very easy to change the policy and add 1 package - for eg. build-essential in case of Debian, to get what you want. -- Thank you Balachandran Sivakumar Arise Awake and stop not till the goal is reached. - Swami Vivekananda Mail: benignb...@gmail.com Blog: http://benignbala.wordpress.com/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] [Inpycon] Sad demise of our dear KG (Keneth Gonsalvas)
Hi, On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 3:25 PM, JAGANADH G wrote: > Hi All, > > Just now I got a message that our dear KG (Kenneth Gonsalvas) passed away. > He was admitted in hospital due to Asthma attack and passed away today > morning. > Cremation will be held at ooty on 4th Aug 2012. > Oh my God! Feeling really sad. Such a nice person and a great asset to many mailing lists. -- Thank you Balachandran Sivakumar Arise Awake and stop not till the goal is reached. - Swami Vivekananda Mail: benignb...@gmail.com Blog: http://benignbala.wordpress.com/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] [opinion]Dear Gnome devs: Please stop trashing Gnome!
Hi, On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 2:18 PM, Tushar Rishabadas wrote: > http://alexcabal.com/dear-gnome-devs-please-stop-trashing-gnome I am not very sure what he is trying to say. But these past few days, I have moved away from Gnome to Fluxbox. And I am finding it really wonderful. It is extremely customisable and very very light. Gnome 3, though better than the Unity desktop that we have in Ubuntu**, has been quite an irritant for a while. A lot of short cuts that I have been used to over the years have changed. And trying to figure them out, reconfigure them hasn't been as easy as it ought to have been(at least for me). As for Ubuntu, with the HUD thing in Unity, they made sure they drove me out of it. Thanks ** It is just my opinion that Gnome3 is better than Unity. -- Thank you Balachandran Sivakumar Arise Awake and stop not till the goal is reached. - Swami Vivekananda Mail: benignb...@gmail.com Blog: http://benignbala.wordpress.com/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] FSFTN goes to new office
Hi, On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 1:46 PM, Arun Prakash wrote: > > Free Software Foundation Tamil Nadu, B 2, Thanickachalam Road, Thyagaraya > Nagar, Chennai, Kanchipuram, Chennai City Corporation Limits, Tamil Nadu, That's funny :). T Nagar is not in Kanchipuram. It is right in the middle of the city of Chennai :). We need to update it. Thanks -- Thank you Balachandran Sivakumar Arise Awake and stop not till the goal is reached. - Swami Vivekananda Mail: benignb...@gmail.com Blog: http://benignbala.wordpress.com/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] kill
Hi, On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 3:14 PM, Noorul Islam K M wrote: > Balachandran Sivakumar writes: > >> Hi, >> >>Bash shows it for me. kill -l in bash 4.1.x shows the same >> output. But, when you say bash completion, were you trying kill >> ? I don't think that shows it up. thanks > > > noman in ~ > $ --> kill -l > What do you get, when you do kill -l ? I too am on Debian Sqeeze(6.0.3) and I get the list of signals available. IIRC, -l just lists the signals and doesn't take any parameters/arguments. So tab completion probably doesn't work. Thanks -- Thank you Balachandran Sivakumar Arise Awake and stop not till the goal is reached. - Swami Vivekananda Mail: benignb...@gmail.com Blog: http://benignbala.wordpress.com/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] kill
Hi, On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 12:50 PM, Noorul Islam K M wrote: > > Which shell are you using? Bash completion is not displaying those > numbers. > Bash shows it for me. kill -l in bash 4.1.x shows the same output. But, when you say bash completion, were you trying kill ? I don't think that shows it up. thanks -- Thank you Balachandran Sivakumar Arise Awake and stop not till the goal is reached. - Swami Vivekananda Mail: benignb...@gmail.com Blog: http://benignbala.wordpress.com/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Shell script with arguments
Hi, On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 5:57 PM, Vijay Kumar wrote: > Hi All, > > I need some help/ideas in coming up with a shell script. > For example, if I type in pkgscript.sh a1 a2 a3, it should install all the > 3 scripts and pkgscript.sh a1 should install only a1. > Use $# and $@. A rough outline is : if [[ $# == 0 ]]; then fi for pkg in "$@" do done Please read up on bash programming. This will be covered there. thanks -- Thank you Balachandran Sivakumar Arise Awake and stop not till the goal is reached. - Swami Vivekananda Mail: benignb...@gmail.com Blog: http://benignbala.wordpress.com/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] dual boot success
Hi Kenneth, On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 5:19 PM, kenneth gonsalves wrote: > hi, > > finally succeeded. I did not use lvm. What I did: > Will it be possible for you to document your whole experience in a wiki or something where people looking for info can get it through a web search. I agree that there might already be info on that. But just in case. :) > 4 booted from the fedora installation dvd and restored grub. I now have > a nice dual boot system - I still have one more partition available, > should I install mandriva, or does someone have suggestions for > something more exotic? How about Open Indiana. I guess the current build is 151a and it is a nice OS[1]. For someone used to the GNU/Linux system, it should be very easy. IIRC, it has just gnome(gnome2). And it has the usual tools - firefox, thunderbird etc. They have a synaptic like UI for installing new software. Would be worth a try. Thanks [1] Open Indiana is an OS using the illumos kernel, which was a fork of Open Solaris after Oracle acquired Sun -- Thank you Balachandran Sivakumar Arise Awake and stop not till the goal is reached. - Swami Vivekananda Mail: benignb...@gmail.com Blog: http://benignbala.wordpress.com/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] programming languages
Hi, On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 10:31 PM, A. Mani wrote: > On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 6:28 PM, kenneth gonsalves > wrote: >> this may be of interest to some: >> http://me.veekun.com/blog/2012/04/09/php-a-fractal-of-bad-design/ > > > http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4177516 > says it is very bad article with wrong and very outdated statements. I don't know how reliable the above quoted news URL is, but there are quite a few facts in the article linked to by Kenneth. As of 5.2, PHP still has a few annoying behaviour, which would look extremely weird to someone new to the language. Just that the author has exaggerated few of the issues. > \quote > "I wish bloggers would stop quoting that fractal article. At least 50% > of what's written in there is totally wrong/false. Other information I have been using PHP for 6+ years. They have ironed out a few things now, and things are certainly improving. And to this date, there are millions of sites that run php. But things have been really bad in the past. Thanks PS: IIRC, Kenneth is himself hates php very much. So :) -- Thank you Balachandran Sivakumar Arise Awake and stop not till the goal is reached. - Swami Vivekananda Mail: benignb...@gmail.com Blog: http://benignbala.wordpress.com/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] How to create deb file for Qt based application
Hi, On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 5:24 PM, prasannatsmkumar wrote: > Hi, > > I have created an application using Qt framework for ubuntu app > showdown. I have hosted it in > https://launchpad.net/share-ubuntu-updates. Please let me know how to > package it (creating a .deb file). I am very new to creating deb so I The Ubuntu packaging guide is located here[1]. [1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Complete -- Thank you Balachandran Sivakumar Arise Awake and stop not till the goal is reached. - Swami Vivekananda Mail: benignb...@gmail.com Blog: http://benignbala.wordpress.com/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] SVN_WITH_GUI
Hi, On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 3:50 PM, rmariya sagaya asirvatham wrote: > Hi > what is top-post ? > please help me how to post my questions > For a detailed reply, please read the wiki page on posting styles[1]. For a short answer, when you reply to an email, if you typing your reply above the email to which you are replying, you are top posting. The correct way to post is Interleaved posting, with proper trimming. This thread, [2] and this message[3] in particula explains what to do and why top/bottom posting is a problem. Thanks [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style [2] http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/pipermail/ilugc/2012-July/072123.html [3] http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/pipermail/ilugc/2012-July/072126.html -- Thank you Balachandran Sivakumar Arise Awake and stop not till the goal is reached. - Swami Vivekananda Mail: benignb...@gmail.com Blog: http://benignbala.wordpress.com/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] SVN_WITH_GUI
Hi, On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 3:02 PM, rmariya sagaya asirvatham wrote: > Thank you , > > I am using Uber Svn Server in Ubuntu , The problem is i am unable to locate > the repository path through linux command line.I searched lot in the I don't know how Uber SVN works. But on Ubuntu, just do sudo apt-get install subversion And you will have your subversion ready. Then, if you want to create a new repo on the box, use svnadmin create repo_name Then you need to import the necessary data using svn import. If you want to access your repo over HTTP/HTTPS, you need to add the WebDAV for svn and configure apache(or what ever server you prefer to use). If you just want to use it to check out a copy, after install subversion, just do svn co https://url/of/repo dest_folder dest_folder is optional there. You can do commit, update, resolve conflicts etc using the respective commands. Thanks PS: Please do not top post. There have been numerous discussion on the list asking people not to top post just last week :) -- Thank you Balachandran Sivakumar Arise Awake and stop not till the goal is reached. - Swami Vivekananda Mail: benignb...@gmail.com Blog: http://benignbala.wordpress.com/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
