Re: [ilugd] convert ?

2008-04-11 Thread Nalin Savara
Ho ho ho.. You have'nt read the manual.. Have you ? R.t.F.M

To complete a partial download you started with wget :-
1. cd to folder where you were downloading.
2. Give command :-
wget -c [url]
where url = url you were earlier incomplete downloading
3. Wget will detect partial .. And complete it..

Hope that helps..
-Nalin
-sent from mobile-

On 4/11/08, Mani A [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Is it possible to finish a partial download (wget) with ktorrent etc?

 Thanks

 A. Mani



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[ilugd] [OT] etiquette note (was Re: Use for a really old PC?)

2008-04-11 Thread PJ
Nalin Savara [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
[snip paragraphs suggesting Anupam give the PC away]
 
 Though ofcourse it may not appeal to you and it's possible you may
 have to give it to some one not from your own caste or strata of
 society.
 
 -n.s


I went through the thread again, and I saw no reason for introducing
that snide remark.

PJ



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Re: [ilugd] convert ?

2008-04-11 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves

On 11-Apr-08, at 11:34 AM, Nalin Savara wrote:

 Ho ho ho.. You have'nt read the manual.. Have you ? R.t.F.M

I think he wants to complete a partial download started with wget  
using torrent. RTOP


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Re: [ilugd] convert ?

2008-04-11 Thread Sharninder
   (2) I pointed out that wget supports the above get files in pieces
   use-case-- through the -c command-line switch and hence is sufficient.

  BS. if you would learn not to top post, I would elaborate. But while
  you are investigating what is a top post, you could also investigate
  the difference between a distributed download and a resumed download
  - and the meaning of BS

lol

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Re: [ilugd] convert ?

2008-04-11 Thread Nalin Savara
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 3:52 PM, Sharninder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

(2) I pointed out that wget supports the above get files in pieces
use-case-- through the -c command-line switch and hence is
 sufficient.
 
   BS. if you would learn not to top post, I would elaborate. But while
   you are investigating what is a top post, you could also investigate
   the difference between a distributed download and a resumed download
   - and the meaning of BS

 lol

 Keep laughing man... and yes; when I first saw that message; I was tempted
to write a small snippet of code to take a torrent file and a partially wget
gotten file--- and to convert the partially wget-ten file to a partially
gotten torrent.

But ok reading that mail; I could see that the obvious reason that
question is being asked is because the user doesnt seem to be aware that you
can do 'resumed downloads' with wget.

I hope that helps...

Regards,

Nalin
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Re: [ilugd] convert ?

2008-04-11 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves

On 11-Apr-08, at 2:47 PM, Nalin Savara wrote:

 (2) I pointed out that wget supports the above get files in pieces
 use-case-- through the -c command-line switch and hence is sufficient.

BS. if you would learn not to top post, I would elaborate. But while  
you are investigating what is a top post, you could also investigate  
the difference between a distributed download and a resumed download  
- and the meaning of BS


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Associate, NRC-FOSS
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [ilugd] convert ?

2008-04-11 Thread Nalin Savara
BS. if you would learn not to top post, I would elaborate. But while


That msg was posted from a mobile device-- and yes; I pointed out why I felt
my post was relevant.

As regards the rest of your post; I dont even consider it worthwhile to even
reply.

Thanks and have several nice days...
-N.
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Re: [ilugd] convert ?

2008-04-11 Thread Nalin Savara
To re-phrase my reply:-- (and Mani; please point out if I'm off-target or
on-target)

(1) I assume that by download partially wget file through torrent you are
saying how can I completely a large file which I've partially got through
wget ?-- torrent is mentioned here because when we talk of the use-case of
get files in pieces we think of torrent.

(2) I pointed out that wget supports the above get files in pieces
use-case-- through the -c command-line switch and hence is sufficient.

(3) I've furthermore pointed out that scanning the
documentation/manual-pages of wget would help further familiarize with
various options.

I hope that helps...

Regards,

-N.S


On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 1:22 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:


 On 11-Apr-08, at 11:34 AM, Nalin Savara wrote:

  Ho ho ho.. You have'nt read the manual.. Have you ? R.t.F.M

 I think he wants to complete a partial download started with wget
 using torrent. RTOP


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 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [ilugd] hello

2008-04-11 Thread Parijat Garg
  if u want to play mp3 only..u may use xmms player
  http://www.linux-noob.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=518

xmms does not come with an mp3 plugin anymore and getting hold of a
decoder is hard, by my experience. beep-media-player is a nice
substitute. http://sourceforge.net/projects/beepmp

parijat


  i tried a lot of websites but this shows that fedora not
   supporting restricted formats.
   but with installing codec this problem will be solved. where to get
   this codec and how to install this? please help me.
   AmrithRaj. R

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Re: [ilugd] convert ?

2008-04-11 Thread Manish
  On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 3:57 PM, Nalin Savara wrote:
   On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 3:52 PM, Sharninder wrote:
  
(2) I pointed out that wget supports the above get files in pieces
use-case-- through the -c command-line switch and hence is
 sufficient.
 
   BS. if you would learn not to top post, I would elaborate. But while
   you are investigating what is a top post, you could also investigate
   the difference between a distributed download and a resumed download
   - and the meaning of BS

 lol

 Keep laughing man... and yes; when I first saw that message; I
was tempted
to write a small snippet of code to take a torrent file and a
partially wget
gotten file--- and to convert the partially wget-ten file to a partially
gotten torrent.

So why didn't you?

But ok reading that mail; I could see that the obvious reason that
question is being asked is because the user doesnt seem to be
aware that you
can do 'resumed downloads' with wget.

-c seems to continue broken downloads of a /single/ file (as in one
piece).  Where as a torrent is a, well.. torrent[1].  The below excerpt
from the wget man page about -c option does not directly or indirectly
suggest what you claim.

,[ Excerpt from wget(1) ]---
|  -c
|  --continue
|  Continue getting a partially-downloaded file.  This is useful
when you want to finish up a download started by a pre-
|  vious instance of Wget, or by another program.  For instance:
|
|  wget -c ftp://sunsite.doc.ic.ac.uk/ls-lR.Z
|
|  If there is a file named ls-lR.Z in the current directory, Wget
will assume that it is the first portion of the remote
|  file, and will ask the server to continue the retrieval from an
offset equal to the length of the local file.
|
|  Note that you don't need to specify this option if you just
want the current invocation of Wget to retry downloading a
|  file should the connection be lost midway through.  This is the
default behavior.  -c only affects resumption of down-
|  loads started prior to this invocation of Wget, and whose local
files are still sitting around.
|
|  Without -c, the previous example would just download the remote
file to ls-lR.Z.1, leaving the truncated ls-lR.Z file
|  alone.
|
|  Beginning with Wget 1.7, if you use -c on a non-empty file, and
it turns out that the server does not support contin-
|  ued downloading, Wget will refuse to start the download from
scratch, which would effectively ruin existing contents.
|  If you really want the download to start from scratch, remove the file.
|
|  Also beginning with Wget 1.7, if you use -c on a file which is
of equal size as the one on the server, Wget will
|  refuse to download the file and print an explanatory message.
The same happens when the file is smaller on the server
|  than locally (presumably because it was changed on the server
since your last download attempt)---because ``continu-
|  ing'' is not meaningful, no download occurs.
|
|  On the other side of the coin, while using -c, any file that's
bigger on the server than locally will be considered an
|  incomplete download and only (length(remote) - length(local))
bytes will be downloaded and tacked onto the end of
|  the local file.  This behavior can be desirable in certain
cases---for instance, you can use wget -c to download just
|  the new portion that's been appended to a data collection or log file.
|
|  However, if the file is bigger on the server because it's been
changed, as opposed to just appended to, you'll end up
|  with a garbled file.  Wget has no way of verifying that the
local file is really a valid prefix of the remote file.
|  You need to be especially careful of this when using -c in
conjunction with -r, since every file will be considered as
|  an incomplete download candidate.
|
|  Another instance where you'll get a garbled file if you try to
use -c is if you have a lame HTTP proxy that inserts a
|  ``transfer interrupted'' string into the local file.  In the
future a ``rollback'' option may be added to deal with
|  this case.
|
|  Note that -c only works with FTP servers and with HTTP servers
that support the Range header.
`

After all the bluster, you owe teaching us how to continue an
interrupted torrent download using wget.

-- Manish
1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Segmented_downloading

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Re: [ilugd] convert ?

2008-04-11 Thread Raj Mathur
On Friday 11 Apr 2008, Nalin Savara wrote:
 BS. if you would learn not to top post, I would elaborate. But while

 That msg was posted from a mobile device-- and yes; I pointed out why
 I felt my post was relevant.

I really feel that you cannot use that as an excuse for flouting mailing 
list etiquette.  If your mail client doesn't let you add text inline in 
mails, you can:

1. Get yourself another mobile device that does, or

2. Not post to the list until you have access to a proper e-mail client.

In the meantime I'm strongly tempted to request Kishore to consider 
banning all mails that contain the text ``Sent from my handheld 
crackberry'' or whatever, since I've yet to see one of those which 
contains etiquette instead of of advertising.

Regards,

-- Raju
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Re: [ilugd] convert ?

2008-04-11 Thread Nalin Savara
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 6:36 PM, Manish [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

After all the bluster, you owe teaching us how to continue an
interrupted torrent download using wget.

Hey Manish (and others),

A Mani Wrote:--

Is it possible to finish a partial download (wget) with ktorrent etc?

 Thanks

 A. Mani


(1) Obvious Answer: NO - It is not possible to finish a partial download
(wget) with ktorrent etc.

(2) To complete a partial download (wget) using the wget -c option.

Hope that helps.

Regards,

Nalin
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Re: [ilugd] convert ?

2008-04-11 Thread Sahil Dave
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 6:46 PM, Nalin Savara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 6:36 PM, Manish [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
 After all the bluster, you owe teaching us how to continue an
 interrupted torrent download using wget.
 
 Hey Manish (and others),

 A Mani Wrote:--
 
 Is it possible to finish a partial download (wget) with ktorrent etc?
 
  Thanks
 
  A. Mani
 

 (1) Obvious Answer: NO - It is not possible to finish a partial download
 (wget) with ktorrent etc.

 (2) To complete a partial download (wget) using the wget -c option.


by now Mani must have downloaded the same file 5 times with ktorrent... :-)

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Re: [ilugd] convert ?

2008-04-11 Thread Nalin Savara
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 6:51 PM, Sahil Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


by now Mani must have downloaded the same file 5 times with ktorrent... :-)

Yes indeed Sahil Dave... unless ofcourse... he believes the journey is the
reward... and he's enjoyin the journey ! ! !

-N.S
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Re: [ilugd] convert ?

2008-04-11 Thread Mehul Ved
On Fri Apr 11, 2008 at 06:46:04PM +0530, Nalin Savara wrote:
 A Mani Wrote:--
 
 Is it possible to finish a partial download (wget) with ktorrent etc?
 
 (1) Obvious Answer: NO - It is not possible to finish a partial download
 (wget) with ktorrent etc.

You can if the same download has a torrent somewhere.
eg. I am downloading an iso file of a certain distro using wget, if I
can get the torrents of the same version of the distro I can very well
use torrents to finish rest of the download. 
But, since the OP hasn't mentioned what is being downloaded it can't be
ascertained as to whether it can be resumed using bittorrent or not.

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Re: [ilugd] convert ?

2008-04-11 Thread Nalin Savara
Mehul Wrote:

You can if the same download has a torrent somewhere.
 eg. I am downloading an iso file of a certain distro using wget, if I
 can get the torrents of the same version of the distro I can very well
 use torrents to finish rest of the download.

How did you manage that mehul ?

How'd ya manage to import a partially gotten wget into torrent download
proggy to use torrents to finish rest of the download. ???

Do let us know

Thanks and Regards,

N.S
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Re: [ilugd] convert ?

2008-04-11 Thread Sriram J

 In the meantime I'm strongly tempted to request Kishore to consider
 banning all mails that contain the text ``Sent from my handheld
 crackberry'' or whatever, since I've yet to see one of those which
 contains etiquette instead of of advertising.

 Regards,

 -- Raju


+1 from myside
Regards
Sriram
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[ilugd] Gartner says Open source will quietly take over

2008-04-11 Thread Dhiraj Gaur
Dear LUG users
Now even the industry is feeling the heat off open source. The latest
gartner report confirms that Open Source is here to stay.

Read more at

http://news.zdnet.co.uk/software/0,100121,39379900,00.htm

Regards

Dhiraj
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Re: [ilugd] convert ?

2008-04-11 Thread Mehul Ved
On Fri Apr 11, 2008 at 07:04:50PM +0530, Nalin Savara wrote:
 Mehul Wrote:
 How'd ya manage to import a partially gotten wget into torrent download
 proggy to use torrents to finish rest of the download. ???
 
 Do let us know

I stated that if the same download has an existing bittorrent file then
it can be done.
eg. Near the end of this month most people will be downloading Ubuntu
8.04 and Fedora 9. So, after starting the download they realise the
servers are heavily loaded thus giving them below optimal download
speeds. Thus, they can switch over to torrents for the rest of the
downloads. Bittorrent can check the file for the downloaded parts thus
avoiding re-downloading them. So, in effect you will be continuing your
downloads at much better speeds(subject to properly configured
bittorrent client).

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Re: [ilugd] Gartner says Open source will quietly take over

2008-04-11 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves

On 11-Apr-08, at 9:11 PM, Dhiraj Gaur wrote:

 Now even the industry is feeling the heat off open source. The latest
 gartner report confirms that Open Source is here to stay.

 Read more at

 http://news.zdnet.co.uk/software/0,100121,39379900,00.htm

open source is now official:

http://www.microsoft.com/opensource/heroes/nimish.mspx


-- 
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Re: [ilugd] convert ?

2008-04-11 Thread Mehul Ved
On Fri Apr 11, 2008 at 09:32:06PM +0530, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
 
 On 11-Apr-08, at 9:13 PM, Mehul Ved wrote:
  I stated that if the same download has an existing bittorrent file  
  then
  it can be done.
 
 the question is: the original partial file is a wget download - how  
 can you continue that download with torrent?

Either I am failing to understand the question or others are failing to
understand my reply.
If the OP can provide the following then it maybe clearer
1) What is he downloading?
2) Does there exist a torrent file for the same somewhere?
3) Does he require the process of how download can be continued after
the torrent file has been obtained?
4) If possible, reason for switching over from wget to bittorrent.

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[ilugd] Binary Compatibility between distros

2008-04-11 Thread Anoop John
I had a request recently from a firm in Trivandrum to try to set up
their software (Altair Hyperworks) on RHEL 3. I took fedora, assuming
that if it worked on RHEL it would on fedora too, and with some minor
tweaks in the installation script I was able to set it up on Fedora 8.
So the question is, if a software (binary) works on a given distro,
would it work on other distros too? If there are dependancies will we
be able to figure them out without having access to the source?

Thanks
Anoop

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[ilugd] GNU/Linux Install Fest in Trivandrum Kerala

2008-04-11 Thread Anoop John
Hi,
Happy to let you all know of a GNU/Linux Install fest in Trivandrum.
You can read more about it at
http://www.ilug-tvm.org/content/keralas-first-gnulinux-install-fest-12-april-2008
Sorry to have mailed this late. I guess it is too late for any kind of
web based promotion through blogs and stuff. I just wanted to share
the happy news with all of you.
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Re: [ilugd] Binary Compatibility between distros

2008-04-11 Thread Shiv
From: Anoop John [EMAIL PROTECTED]

If there are dependancies will we
be able to figure them out without having access to the source?

Hi,
I've found that a man's best friend in such cases is the ldd command.
once you have installed this software, you could run ldd against the binary. It 
would tell you what libraries are missing.
as an example (output is the binary):-
$ldd output
linux-gate.so.1 =  (0xe000)
libX11.so.6 = /usr/lib/libX11.so.6 (0xb7e26000)
libXi.so.6 = /usr/lib/libXi.so.6 (0xb7e1e000)
libXmu.so.6 = /usr/lib/libXmu.so.6 (0xb7e08000)
libGL.so.1 = /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 (0xb7d67000)
libGLU.so.1 = /usr/lib/libGLU.so.1 (0xb7ce7000)
libtiff.so.4 = /usr/lib/libtiff.so.4 (0xb7c95000)
libglut.so.3 = /usr/lib/libglut.so.3 (0xb7c63000)
libstdc++.so.6 = /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6 (0xb7b79000)
libm.so.6 = /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libm.so.6 (0xb7b52000)
libgcc_s.so.1 = /lib/libgcc_s.so.1 (0xb7b45000)
libc.so.6 = /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6 (0xb7a04000)
libXau.so.6 = /usr/lib/libXau.so.6 (0xb7a01000)
libXdmcp.so.6 = /usr/lib/libXdmcp.so.6 (0xb79fc000)
libdl.so.2 = /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libdl.so.2 (0xb79f8000)
libXext.so.6 = /usr/lib/libXext.so.6 (0xb79ea000)
libXt.so.6 = /usr/lib/libXt.so.6 (0xb7998000)
libSM.so.6 = /usr/lib/libSM.so.6 (0xb798f000)
libICE.so.6 = /usr/lib/libICE.so.6 (0xb7977000)
libpthread.so.0 = /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libpthread.so.0 (0xb796)
libjpeg.so.62 = /usr/lib/libjpeg.so.62 (0xb7941000)
libz.so.1 = /usr/lib/libz.so.1 (0xb792c000)
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0xb7f2a000)

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Re: [ilugd] convert ?

2008-04-11 Thread Sharninder
  
   the question is: the original partial file is a wget download - how
   can you continue that download with torrent?

I think what Mehul is trying to say is that if the filename that the
torrent client creates is exactly the same as the file that the user
had been downloading with wget, then most torrent clients will take
that as a base and assume that the data already 'in' the file has been
downloaded in a previous session and continue downloading the rest of
the data.

The gnome built-in torrent client does check the file for data already
downloaded while resuming a session, so Mehul's suggestion just might
work. I've never written a torrent client myself to understand the
protocol well enough, though.

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Re: [ilugd] convert ?

2008-04-11 Thread Arindam Ghosh
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 6:58 PM, Mehul Ved [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Fri Apr 11, 2008 at 06:46:04PM +0530, Nalin Savara wrote:
   A Mani Wrote:--
   
   Is it possible to finish a partial download (wget) with ktorrent etc?
  

  (1) Obvious Answer: NO - It is not possible to finish a partial download
   (wget) with ktorrent etc.

  You can if the same download has a torrent somewhere.
  eg. I am downloading an iso file of a certain distro using wget, if I
  can get the torrents of the same version of the distro I can very well
  use torrents to finish rest of the download.
  But, since the OP hasn't mentioned what is being downloaded it can't be
  ascertained as to whether it can be resumed using bittorrent or not.

+1I did the same while downloading Fedora 8. I switched from
wget to bittorrent-curses around 3-4 times to get the best
download speeds possible. It worked pretty well without any hickups.

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Re: [ilugd] convert ?

2008-04-11 Thread Raj Shekhar
in infinite wisdom Arindam Ghosh spoke thus  On 04/11/2008 12:51 PM:

 +1I did the same while downloading Fedora 8. I switched from
 wget to bittorrent-curses around 3-4 times to get the best
 download speeds possible. It worked pretty well without any hickups.

 From what I have seen, torrent does a sanity check on the data it has 
downloaded and resumes from the point where it has left off.  I.e.  the 
only state that it sees it the data in the download.  Hence, if the file 
you are downloading is exactly the same what the torrent has, the 
torrent should be able to start from where wget left off.

This is the theory at least - untested, unverified etc. etc. disclaimers

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Re: [ilugd] convert ?

2008-04-11 Thread Mani A
Nalin Savara  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  lol
 
  Keep laughing man... and yes; when I first saw that message; I was tempted
 to write a small snippet of code to take a torrent file and a partially wget
 gotten file--- and to convert the partially wget-ten file to a partially
 gotten torrent.


The problem was with the unfinished Mandriva dvd dowload... I was not
able to get faster mirrors... so I was looking for completing it with
Ktorrent. Usually torrents are a bit slow (~100kbps)...but ok anyway.


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Re: [ilugd] convert ?

2008-04-11 Thread Viksit Gaur
Hello,

--- Raj Mathur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 In the meantime I'm strongly tempted to request
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 banning all mails that contain the text ``Sent from
 my handheld 
 crackberry'' or whatever, since I've yet to see one
 of those which 
 contains etiquette instead of of advertising.

Heh, and risk alienating those users from the mailing
list? :) Nooo. 

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Re: [ilugd] Network Installation of SLES

2008-04-11 Thread Smruti
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 9:34 PM, Sharninder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
   I want to install Suse Enterprise Server 9 with SP3 throguh network.

 PXE definitely is the least painful method if your servers are setup
 to boot from LAN. You can have different config files/profiles for
 booting the different installation types that you want and combined
 with yast autoinstall files, the process can be fully automated.

 If you need more info on setting up PXE specifically look at:

 http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/feature/17719.html

 This should get you a basic idea to start with.


Thanks a bunch Sharinder.

I will get back to you, once i initiate the build.

Regards
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Re: [ilugd] convert ?

2008-04-11 Thread Sahil Dave
On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 5:07 AM, Mani A [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Nalin Savara  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   lol
  
   Keep laughing man... and yes; when I first saw that message; I was
 tempted
  to write a small snippet of code to take a torrent file and a partially
 wget
  gotten file--- and to convert the partially wget-ten file to a
 partially
  gotten torrent.
 

 The problem was with the unfinished Mandriva dvd dowload... I was not
 able to get faster mirrors... so I was looking for completing it with
 Ktorrent.

 this could be done only if, you can find a torrent for mandriva dvd, that
contains exactly the same files and folders, so that when you start the
torrent in the same place where your partial stuff is, ktorrent is able to
find some already existing (downloaded) files. so, it'll continue from where
you stuck..!!



 Usually torrents are a bit slow (~100kbps)...but ok anyway.

 and i thought torrents were much more reliable and faster (at least for
downloading complete distros.)

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Re: [ilugd] convert ?

2008-04-11 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves

On 11-Apr-08, at 10:44 PM, Mehul Ved wrote:


 the question is: the original partial file is a wget download - how
 can you continue that download with torrent?

 Either I am failing to understand the question or others are  
 failing to
 understand my reply.
 If the OP can provide the following then it maybe clearer
 1) What is he downloading?
 2) Does there exist a torrent file for the same somewhere?
 3) Does he require the process of how download can be continued after
 the torrent file has been obtained?
 4) If possible, reason for switching over from wget to bittorrent.

all these questions are irrelevant. Assume he has downloaded 500 mb  
of a 3 gb iso using wget. It is taking too long. Torrent is  
available. He doesnt want to waste the 500 mb he has already  
downloaded. So he wants to download the *remaining* 2.5 gb using  
torrent. Is it possible?


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Re: [ilugd] convert ?

2008-04-11 Thread Mehul Ved
On Sat Apr 12, 2008 at 05:07:15AM +0530, Mani A wrote:
 The problem was with the unfinished Mandriva dvd dowload... I was not
 able to get faster mirrors... so I was looking for completing it with
 Ktorrent. Usually torrents are a bit slow (~100kbps)...but ok anyway.

Yes, you can finish the rest of the download with torrents. You just
need to obtain the torrent file of the same release of the distro either
from Mandriva's website or from linuxtracker.org.
Open the torrent file in your BitTorrent client. When it asks for
location to download, point it to your unfinished download. You won't
have to bother about filename since torrent will adher to it as it's the
same release via HTTP, FTP or torrents. Now the client will check the
download for the existing pieces, discard bad pieces if any and then
continue with the rest of the download.

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Re: [ilugd] convert ?

2008-04-11 Thread Dinesh Shah
Mehul,

On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 9:37 AM, Mehul Ved  wrote:

 Another couple of times I have used it to generate a clean iso out of
 sub-standards CD/DVD's supplied by technology magazines. A minor portion
 of
 data was unreadable but majority of the data was very much readable from
 the disc. Thus, rather than throwing away the whole disc as useless one
 can create an ISO from it using dd or K3B or whatever your favourite
 tool is. Obtained the torrent for the same and pointed it to the iso.
 The torrent client checked the iso and discarded pieces that didn't match
 the checksum. Thus, I only needed to download whatever wasn't readable
 from the media.


This is indeed is a great hack to repair damaged CD using torrent!

Must go in GNU/Linux  tips and tricks section somewhere!

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Re: [ilugd] Gartner says Open source will quietly take over

2008-04-11 Thread Gaurav Mishra
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 9:30 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:


  Read more at
 
  http://news.zdnet.co.uk/software/0,100121,39379900,00.htm

 open source is now official:

 http://www.microsoft.com/opensource/heroes/nimish.mspx


Official ? How ?

Completely missed your point !, If microsoft talks about open source it`s
official :P

OMG





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Re: [ilugd] Gartner says Open source will quietly take over

2008-04-11 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves

On 12-Apr-08, at 10:22 AM, Gaurav Mishra wrote:

 wrote:


 Read more at

 http://news.zdnet.co.uk/software/0,100121,39379900,00.htm

 open source is now official:

 http://www.microsoft.com/opensource/heroes/nimish.mspx


 Official ? How ?

 Completely missed your point !, If microsoft talks about open  
 source it`s
 official :P

yes

 OMG

s/OMG/OMFG/


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Re: [ilugd] Gartner says Open source will quietly take over

2008-04-11 Thread Gaurav Mishra
On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 11:06 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:



  open source is now official:
 
  http://www.microsoft.com/opensource/heroes/nimish.mspx
 
 
  Official ? How ?
 
  Completely missed your point !, If microsoft talks about open
  source it`s
  official :P



This is so wrong statement.

Man,  Go and read Cathedral and Bazaar again.

For rest of ILUGD crowd. FLOSS community has nothing to do with microsoft
and microsoft is just another properiatery software company. If microsoft
talks about Open source, no big deal


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Re: [ilugd] convert ?

2008-04-11 Thread Manish
On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 9:37 AM, Mehul Ved [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[snip]
  Yes, I have done it so many times with quite a few distros, especially
  happened 3 times with me when ubuntu was just released. Their servers
  are hammered so badly that I get pathetic download speeds. So, after
  quitting wget, even though the download is partially finished, I got
  hold of the torrent of the same release and pointed it to download at
  the same location where the partially downloaded file was.

  Another couple of times I have used it to generate a clean iso out of
  sub-standards CD/DVD's supplied by technology magazines. A minor portion of
  data was unreadable but majority of the data was very much readable from
  the disc. Thus, rather than throwing away the whole disc as useless one
  can create an ISO from it using dd or K3B or whatever your favourite
  tool is. Obtained the torrent for the same and pointed it to the iso.
  The torrent client checked the iso and discarded pieces that didn't match
  the checksum. Thus, I only needed to download whatever wasn't readable
  from the media.

Brilliant!  Thanks for sharing.

-- Manish

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