Re: [ilugd] Is it illegal to redistribute RHEL? Open Letter To Linux For You India
I know that this is a flamebait, but ... M.S.Yatnatti CEO KPN UNLIMITD [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is it illegal to redistribute RHEL? if so why? Please go through the license which comes with RHEL. Under what provision of trademark law Redhat claims the copyrights and where it has registered the copyrights for RHEL. Does it own RHEL.. Certainly, you need to take legal advice. Prevention is better than cure. How redhat is GPL compliant.Fedora is upstream and open gate when Open gate? What is that? Fedora is upstream for what? RHEL? it flow down stream in the name of RHEL its gate are shut.which is derived version of Fedora becomes owned by Redhat under trademarks. Your views might be diffrent than others .Please let me know your views only .Let us know your logic. M.S.Yatnatti I think you should do some search on the topic of RHEL and its redistribution. There are umpteen search engines out there; and it will take you very little time to find the relevant material. And there are alternatives to RHEL, if you want to be a sponger and re-distribute RHEL without a quid pro quo. -- Mahesh T. Pai Man's most judicious trait, is a good sense of what not to believe. --Euripides ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Is it illegal to redistribute RHEL? Open Letter To Linux For You India
On Sat, Oct 11 2008, M.S.Yatnatti CEO KPN UNLIMITD wrote: You feel that issue is resolved.But many other don't feel like that. You do not mention specifically what issue it is you are talking about, but I assume it is about Red Hat aggregating some software, part of which is under the GPL, and other parts under various licenses, adding trademarks to the aggregation, and distributing the result. Of course, in such a scenario, since the mark is aggregated with the packaged software, there is no contradiction: The mark applies to the aggregation, not the individual parts, you you can;t take the mark and redistribute that, but you can redistribute every other component, under whatever name you wish. But you say some people think that this is not the case, and actually the GPL is somehow being violated. Who are these people who feel there is an issue to be resolved? What are they doing about it? Why do they think that a distribution is not an aggregation, but a derived work? If a distribution is a derived work, which work has it been derived from? Since there are several thousand source packages, if the distribution is a derived work of all the source packages, it will be impossible to distribute for anyone, because of the license mismatches. So do these people, who do not believe that distributions are derived works, also think that the GNU/Linux distributions are illegal? If not, how do they resolve this fundamental paradox? BTW, it is not just RHEL. You can't take an official debian release, modify it yourself, and distribute the result as Debian. You can't take your own collection of software, put it on a CD, and call it Debian either. Of course, since Debian is really poor, you can get away with stealing the mark like that, since we likely do not have the money to sue you. But it is still illegal. I have noted your comment.Is it any court has resolved this issue or FSF has resolved this issue or Copyright Holders have resolved this Since no one, apart from the nebulous group of people you mention, think there is a GPL violation in the first place, of course there has been no challenge raised. Now, if this mysterious group of people think there is a GPL violation, perhaps _they_ can raise this issue in court? issue or Red hat has filed any case against redistributing the RHEL and has won the case .If it was resolved issue why Linux For You Magzine had published a resolved issue.Redhat it self could have provided this in its website.Please let me know any link or URL if you have come across anouncing that this issue is resolved by courts and FSF. Since very likely most of these people think there is no ambiguity in Red Hat having the right to protect it';s mark, and no ambiguity in that there is no GPL violation, they have not taken any steps to resolve the non-ambiguity. manoj -- I am, therefore I am. Akira Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.golden-gryphon.com/ 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Is it illegal to redistribute RHEL? Open Letter To Linux For You India
M.S.Yatnatti CEO KPN UNLIMITD [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: comment.Is it any court has resolved this issue or FSF has resolved this issue or Copyright Holders have resolved this issue or Red hat has filed any case against redistributing the RHEL and has won the case .If it was resolved issue why Linux For You Magzine had published a resolved issue.Redhat it self could have provided this in its website.Please let me know any link or URL if you have come across anouncing that this issue is resolved by courts and FSF. M.S.Yatnatti Let us consider three persons, Appu, Pappu and Babli. (all are fictitious names). Appu has created one painting, each beautiful and delightful. Appu explicitly says that any body is free to modify and / or redistribute the paintings so long as:- 0. The redistributor allows the person getting a copy to redistribute. 1. Modifications / modified copies should be clearly marked. 2. If modified copies are being distributed, there should be a pointer to the original. 3. the person(s) receiving a copy is free is use it any way he wants. And Millions of other artistes like Appu have created such images and released on same terms. Papu scans it on to a CD and distributes them. He calls the CD Pappu Ka CD. Now, comes Babli. Babli says:- quote Is it any court has resolved this issue or Appu has resolved this issue or Copyright Holders have resolved this issue or Pappu has filed any case against redistributing the Pappu ka CD and has won the case /quote I am speechless. Pappu can create the CD only because Appu and others have given permission to copy and redistribute their Images. Appu and /or anybody else cannot create a CD and call it Pappu ka CD. That is common sense. You cannot steal other's property. That is commonsense, I mean, that is the law. but some people do steal. Several are not caught. Several of those who are caught, are not prosecuted. Several of those who are prosecuted _and_ found guilty, are not punished. So?? Go ahead and steal? -- Mahesh T. Pai || http://paivakil.blogspot.com Encryption: A powerful algorithmic encoding technique employed in the creation of computer manuals. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] 10 Examples to Make Your Linux Prompt like Angelina Jolie
10 awesome bash tweaks you can't miss: http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2008/09/bash-shell-ps1-10-examples-to-make-your-linux-prompt-like-angelina-jolie/ Cheers -- Angad Singh http://angadsingh.in ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Is it illegal to redistribute RHEL? Open Letter To Linux For You India
Pappu ka CD. I have been reading this thread for a while, but didn't have much to say. Mr Yatnatti is raising some genuine and good points. Hope some conclusion will come out, sooner or later. I am basically a writer to can't suggest anything. I just saw the Dark Knight last night and I can recall a dialogue: : You just couldn't let me go could you? This is what happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object. You truly are incorruptible aren't you? You won't kill me out of some misplaced sense of self-righteousness, and I won't kill you, because you're just too much fun. I think you and I are destined to do this forever. :-) Swapnil ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] 10 Examples to Make Your Linux Prompt like Angelina Jolie
On 10/11/08, Angad Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 10 awesome bash tweaks you can't miss: http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2008/09/bash-shell-ps1-10-examples-to-make-your-linux-prompt-like-angelina-jolie/ Cheers -- Wow. This is something I could cal Khool! :-) Swapnil Bhartiya http://ybfree.blogspot.com/ Mobile: 09910956518 === I use Free Software, what do you use? === ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] HowTo: access SFTP only ( exclude ssh shell )
Hi, You can assign a /bin/false as login shell for that user! So even if he tries to login using SSH s/he will disconnected immediately. scp might not work if shell is changed to /bin/false. -- Prasanta ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Is it illegal to redistribute RHEL? Open Letter To Linux For You India
On Sat, Oct 11 2008, Swapnil Bhartiya wrote: Pappu ka CD. I have been reading this thread for a while, but didn't have much to say. Mr Yatnatti is raising some genuine and good points. Hope some conclusion will come out, sooner or later. In that case, could you please translate for him? I find it somewhat hard to understand his run-on prose, and I truly can't see what valid points he might be raising. What _is_ the basic issue here? manoj -- You're not an alcoholic unless you go to the meetings. Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.golden-gryphon.com/ 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Is it illegal to redistribute RHEL? Open Letter To Linux For You India
What _is_ the basic issue here? manoj Manoj, Try to catch my point: You won't kill me out of some misplaced sense of self-righteousness, and I won't kill you, because you're just too much fun. I think you and I are destined to do this forever. I hope you understand what I meant... Swapnil ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Is it illegal to redistribute RHEL? Open Letter To Linux For You India
On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 1:18 AM, Swapnil Bhartiya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try to catch my point: You won't kill me out of some misplaced sense of self-righteousness, and I won't kill you, because you're just too much fun. I think you and I are destined to do this forever. I hope you understand what I meant... Swapnil By the 'fun' part do you mean: http://donotfeedtheenergybeast.com/ ? Couldn't resist... putting this link is fun... ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Is it illegal to redistribute RHEL? Open Letter To Linux For You India
On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 1:29 AM, Nandeep Mali [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 1:18 AM, Swapnil Bhartiya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try to catch my point: You won't kill me out of some misplaced sense of self-righteousness, and I won't kill you, because you're just too much fun. I think you and I are destined to do this forever. I hope you understand what I meant... Swapnil By the 'fun' part do you mean: http://donotfeedtheenergybeast.com/ ? Couldn't resist... putting this link is fun... You are smart guy ;-) Swapnil ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Is it illegal to redistribute RHEL? Open Letter To Linux For You India
On Sat, Oct 11 2008, Swapnil Bhartiya wrote: What _is_ the basic issue here? manoj Manoj, Try to catch my point: You won't kill me out of some misplaced sense of self-righteousness, and I won't kill you, because you're just too much fun. I think you and I are destined to do this forever. I hope you understand what I meant... Actually, not really (aside: why _must_ people speak in riddles?) -- unless you are telling me that I am feeding that which lives under a bridge. manoj -- Managing senior programmers is like herding cats. Dave Platt Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.golden-gryphon.com/ 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Is it illegal to redistribute RHEL? Open Letter To Linux For You India
Dear sir , We have noted your points .Thanks for your feed back.For some persons freedom of software is looks like fun.When we lose total freedom then only we understand the value of freedom. But FOSS is big community .it will take care of every body's fun.Least bothered even if some body calls me stupid.I am continuously getting good response. My new sub question ? Is Red Hat Enterprise Linux violates the fedora license Agreement (GPL) ? which is available at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Legal/Licenses/License Agreement By its trade marks policy available at http://www.redhat.com/about/companyprofile/trademark/ Legally Red Hat Enterprise Linux cannot Violates Fedora 9 (GPL) license .Red hat is also user of fedora and has to continue same license in Red Hat Enterprise Linux. It can ask the user to rename the distribution if user modify and distribute. Red Hat cannot prohibit the user to distribute unmodified versions. Red Hat cannot restrict the user to distribute or redistribute unmodified versions for which Fedora 9 license (GPL)permits. Red hat cannot force the community for Rebuilds with other names of unmodified versions . If user modifies Red Hat Enterprise Linux and modifies the Software, then User must replace all images containing the Red Hat Enterprise Linux trademark. Those images are in the Red hat -logos package. To our information Centos does not modify anything accept removing Red Hat Enterprise Linux trademark and logo files. Therefore Red Hat Enterprise Linux Violates Fedora 9 (GPL license)Hope I get response only on the subject. M.S.Yatnatti KPN UNLIMITED Corporate Office:No.18/6, Executive chambers, Cunningham Road, Bangalore – 560052. WEBSITE WWW.KPNUNLIMITED.ORG --- On Sat, 10/11/08, Mahesh T. Pai [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Mahesh T. Pai [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ilugd] Is it illegal to redistribute RHEL? Open Letter To Linux For You India To: ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org Date: Saturday, October 11, 2008, 1:57 PM M.S.Yatnatti CEO KPN UNLIMITD [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: comment.Is it any court has resolved this issue or FSF has resolved this issue or Copyright Holders have resolved this issue or Red hat has filed any case against redistributing the RHEL and has won the case .If it was resolved issue why Linux For You Magzine had published a resolved issue.Redhat it self could have provided this in its website.Please let me know any link or URL if you have come across anouncing that this issue is resolved by courts and FSF. M.S.Yatnatti Let us consider three persons, Appu, Pappu and Babli. (all are fictitious names). Appu has created one painting, each beautiful and delightful. Appu explicitly says that any body is free to modify and / or redistribute the paintings so long as:- 0. The redistributor allows the person getting a copy to redistribute. 1. Modifications / modified copies should be clearly marked. 2. If modified copies are being distributed, there should be a pointer to the original. 3. the person(s) receiving a copy is free is use it any way he wants. And Millions of other artistes like Appu have created such images and released on same terms. Papu scans it on to a CD and distributes them. He calls the CD Pappu Ka CD. Now, comes Babli. Babli says:- quote Is it any court has resolved this issue or Appu has resolved this issue or Copyright Holders have resolved this issue or Pappu has filed any case against redistributing the Pappu ka CD and has won the case /quote I am speechless. Pappu can create the CD only because Appu and others have given permission to copy and redistribute their Images. Appu and /or anybody else cannot create a CD and call it Pappu ka CD. That is common sense. You cannot steal other's property. That is commonsense, I mean, that is the law. but some people do steal. Several are not caught. Several of those who are caught, are not prosecuted. Several of those who are prosecuted _and_ found guilty, are not punished. So?? Go ahead and steal? -- Mahesh T. Pai || http://paivakil.blogspot.com Encryption: A powerful algorithmic encoding technique employed in the creation of computer manuals. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] Science Fiction Foss
Dear Friends, Today, there is as little as hair-thin difference between science fiction and reality. Every other day, we come across studies and products which seem to bring alive imaginations of science fiction writers. In India also science fiction has been present in its own form. To complement science fiction writing in India, National Council of Science and Technology Communication in association with Indian Science Fiction Writers' Association (ISFWA), Faizabad and Indian Association of Science Fiction Studies (IASFS), Vallore, is organising the first-ever national discussion on science fiction – its past, present and future. Date from 10 -14 November, 2008 I was supposed to attend the event and high-light the possibilities of FOSS in science fiction as well as educated writers about Creative Commons, but due to some personal issues I may not be able to attend. If there is someone in LUG, who wants to touch upon the subject may let me know so that I can connect him/her to the person concerned. Regards -- Swapnil Bhartiya http://ybfree.blogspot.com/ Mobile: 09910956518 === I use Free Software, what do you use? === ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Is it illegal to redistribute RHEL? Open Letter To Linux For You India
M.S.Yatnatti CEO KPN UNLIMITD wrote: Dear sir , We have noted your points .Thanks for your feed back.For some persons freedom� of software is looks like fun.When we lose total freedom then only we understand the value of freedom. But FOSS is big community .it will take care of every body's fun.Least bothered even if some body calls me stupid.I am continuously getting good response. My new sub question ? � Is Red Hat Enterprise Linux violates the fedora license Agreement (GPL) ? which is available at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Legal/Licenses/License Agreement By its trade marks policy available at http://www.redhat.com/about/companyprofile/trademark/ And, to re-iterate - have you asked Red Hat about it ? While all the people on the list can provide view points and interpretation, that would be their personal points-of-view (unless they are a lawyer, or, they represent some company's perspective on this question). If asking Red Hat isn't what you plan to do, have you asked this query to the SFLC ? -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] FOSS Contest To Encourage Students
Swapnil Bhartiya wrote: During the Software Freedom Day discussion @ Delhi, there was a point that how we can work towards further promoting/increasing penetration of Free Software in India. There was a suggestion to start a Contest at student level to encourage them to work on Free Software/ GNU/Linux systems. The Seneca College Wiki has a list of problems from various Projects that have been put up. A similar list could lend itself well to a contest 'perhaps'. -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] FOSS Contest To Encourage Students
The Seneca College Wiki has a list of problems from various Projects that have been put up. A similar list could lend itself well to a contest 'perhaps'. Dear Sankarshan, Thanks. Could you please share the link of the wiki page? Regards Swapnil ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] FOSS Contest To Encourage Students
The Seneca College Wiki The list hosted at http://zenit.senecac.on.ca/wiki/index.php/Main_Page has a focus on student courseware and would be a good place to begin Regards, Abhishek ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] List of FOSS for 2020 AD
need of a Wiki rather than a Blog for such a task I have started a Wiki for the list at http://foss2020.wikidot.com/ Regards, Abhishek ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] Volunteer to represent mother-tongue programming at Manthan Awards
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Re: [ilugd] FOSS Contest To Encourage Students
On Sunday 12 Oct 2008, Swapnil Bhartiya wrote: During the Software Freedom Day discussion @ Delhi, there was a point that how we can work towards further promoting/increasing penetration of Free Software in India. There was a suggestion to start a Contest at student level to encourage them to work on Free Software/ GNU/Linux systems. Sounds like a good idea ;-) [snip] * Guideline for what kind of projects should students work on? IMO this is the critical part of the contest. We shouldn't limit students to only programming projects. There's all sorts of other stuff that can be done, the objective being to involve students with all sorts of skills -- programming, artistic, writing, analytical, etc. into the process. For instance, some of the activities that the contest could cover include: - Making fonts - Translations - Comparisons of distributions, or FOSS vs non-FOSS environments and packages - Writing user guides and HOWTOs for other students - Application of FOSS in environments that the students interact with regularly (school management systems, grading, testing, etc.) - Logo, poster and CD cover design - Hardware/robotics/innovative uses of hardware I agree it would be difficult to write a statement of objectives given a large array of possibilities, but we can throw up suggestions and leave it to the students to come up with their own ideas, the only proviso being that they get the project approved by us before commencing (so we can decide whether it's relevant to FOSS, and guide the student into making it more relevant if it isn't). * How to engage colleges for this contest? * Deadline for final draft of the proposed contest? The LINUX For You magazine already organizes a FOSS India Award. In fact, a few of the awards could be made exclusive for the students category. Umm, do you really want to club an amateur effort aimed at raising FOSS awareness in schools with some corporate awards? Regards, -- Raju -- Raj Mathur[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/