RE: [ilugd] Gentoo
She is actually a He :-) Ha Ha Ha!!! The 'HE' and 'SHE' confusion... Interesting, but can't help! It's the name only which can be blamed! Hope the original 'MARY' (he or she) is listing to us and clear all our doubts ;o) BR, GSS ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
RE: [ilugd] Gentoo
To summarize the heart of Gentoo, imagine a user sitting in front of a Linux system. What does he or she want do to? The Gentoo philosophy is to allow this user to do what he or she wants to do, without getting in the way... Portage will keep your Gentoo Linux system as up-to-date as you desire. And because of this, experienced Gentoo users don't pay too much attention to new versions of Gentoo Linux -- after all, the latest and greatest version of Gentoo Linux is always available by typing an emerge sync command. There's no need to wait several months for a new version of Gentoo Linux to be released because Gentoo Linux is continually updated and refined and these improvements are immediately made available to you... #Support for x86, PowerPC, UltraSparc, Alpha and MIPS processors #LiveCD-based installation for x86, PowerPC, UltraSparc and Alpha #Latest stable KDE and GNOME #Various optimized Linux kernels #Very modern GNU development environment #Excellent filesystem support: ReiserFS, XFS, ext3, EVMS, LVM #Excellent hardware support: NVIDIA, Creative Labs Live! and Audigy #Modular OpenGL and compiler sub-system (supports multiple co-existing versions) #Clean, dependency-based system initialization scripts #New hardened Gentoo security initiative #6000+ packages of the latest and greatest software #Enhanced Portage capabilities Great Yaar! Awesome for both -- newbie and Gurus. HATS OFF for Daniel Robbins (Chief Architect) How much time will it take to come into the race? ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
RE: [ilugd] Re: [ilugd-announce] ILUGD Monthly Meet 28th March, 2004
Dear we had a newbies meet and we will conduct it in future Yes! Luckily I was also the part of that successful meet and fortunately got the chance to meet you guys for the first time and I remember that we were planning to have a similar at JIMS. i had proposed to have meet on linx securities. Even I was dreaming about that as I really relish this cherry... I appreciate every ones initiative in it. If the response is good we will continue this or else drop it. Sounds Good! ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
RE: [ilugd] Re: [ilugd-announce] ILUGD Monthly Meet 28th March, 2004
after the meet, the newbies could ask questions one-to-one. Get Ready Man!!! I am coming with a bag *fool* of questions ;) Kiding! ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
RE: [ilugd] Re: [ilugd-announce] ILUGD Monthly Meet 28th March, 2004
15 minutes is infinitely more than zero. I concur! Even 2 mins is infinitely more than zero. :-) look, let's get the ball rolling in this direction. its a process of exploration Very true honorable LL Ji... But can we actually manage the show in 15 mins??? I don't think so... Let us put our feet in the shoes of a newbie, would that be justified if someone starts speaking with you in 'Hindi/Punjabi' and suddenly starts 'French' and the tragedy is that before that, everyone was enjoying the show but now everyone else are enjoying the show except me along with some few newbie and we are watching each others faces :-( Introduction to GNU/Linux and then suddenly technojargon + flamewars + netequitte flames + bla bla Will that shed *off* my nervousness or... Won't it be a great idea if we arrange the similar newbie meet after the great success of Dec 2003 meet so that we can give the justice to newbie? Comments? BR, GSS ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
RE: [ilugd] Winmodems
Is the above true? Yes! AFAIR, the honorable LL did mention that in his 'Gyan Vardhak Bhashan' in the December's newbie meet... ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
RE: [ilugd] [OT] sapm from amkette
i love fighting a losing battle. tell me what we need to do. Start with the same case reported by honorable Raj Mathur -- 'Sapm' Whoops! Spam from amkette. Find who was responsible for this mail in the poor INBOX of Raj and why the *hell* did they do that??? [RAJ] The suspicious thing was that is addressed me as Dear Linux professional. The only place I had given out that particular email ID was at LinuxAsia. Are they selling those email IDs? Has any one you got such mails too? And if this suspect becomes truth! Ask the explanation from these guys and tell them to prove there justification for this 'Sin'... Then if some success is achieved, burn the newspapers, magazine and badly publicize the same... I am sure after that we will be in a position wherein Sandip Bhattacharya will also get 'Insaaf' for the offence made by Indiatimes astrology promo mail. I am sure you have the powers and you *will* win the battle... Good Luck! BR, GSS ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
RE: [ilugd] [Weird] Postgresql vs Oracle
Hi Vivek, This is a slightly weird question. I am having this debate with a friend of mine. We already had one Hot! Hot! discussion on it in oct last year... Where in Tarun initiated the Fire. And the honorable Raj Mathur, Shantanu and Supreet took active part in it. Which is a better DB for serving enterprise needs Postgresql or Oracle. The fire started after I made a comment You are comparing an apple with a Water Melon :o) which unfortunately did not sound good to Tarun... Let me make it very cleat that I don't have any hunch in open source and thats why I am in the list but my dear, facts are facts. --Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva (14th Oct 2003) (comaprision in terms of support, cost, platform independence, deployment in critical situations etc.) Support: Oracle has an edge over PostgreSQL. Poor support offered by PostgreSQL team. Oracle supports more than 10 plateforms including the features in Grid Computing and Mobile Technology. Oracle pioneered grid computing for the enterprise. Only Oracle offers a complete commercial software infrastructure designed specifically for grid computing in the data center Cost: Again it's a debatable thing but I *believe* cost is measured by ROI. And it depends on the requirement. For a very large enterprise, Oracle has proved to attain the ROI within a year or so. Oracle is expensive (BUT worth every single penny if it deployed on an enterprise platform). PostgreSQL is free. Plateform Independence: Oracle has support for every platform on this planet. It scales from a PDA to a MPP machine. PostgreSQL does have a good platform support BUT works well on few of them. Solaris, Windows, and other flavours. Deployment: Deployment in critical situations - what does 'critical means'? 24*7 or what ???. If 24*7 then Oracle has an edge over PostgreSQL. So, if you have deep pockets then opt for oracle else focus on PostgreSQL. We absolutely know we made the right decision at the right time to implement Oracle E-Business Suite. The economy has changed and things are tougher; businesses are more competitive. EMC is now prepared to handle these changes because our investment in Oracle software has made us more efficient. -- Dave Ellard, Senior Vice President and CIO ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
RE: [ilugd] Suggestion for ilugd meet
How about having a ilugd meet on Securing your linux boxes, and how about conducting it this month??? Awesome Idea! Raj, Kishore or any one who is into seurity, please volunteer to speak. Can any one come up with practical implementations and some live examples of security in Linux? It would be a treat for me :-) BR, GSS ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
RE: [ilugd] Suggestion for ilugd meet
I can cover usage of security tools in linux - nessus, ntop, nmap, distro called phlak Is there any volunteer for 'John the Ripper'? I tried it once but was not successful... I am dieing to have that Cherry :o( ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
RE: [ilugd] [OT] Spy trackers in Indiatimes mailers?
india has a pathetic stance on spyware, privacy issues, email harvesting, Agreed!!! I just (for the first time in my life -- after signing in yahoo for more than 7 years) read the Yahoo's Date Protection Policy. Source: http://privacy.yahoo.com/ Yahoo! takes your privacy seriously. Please read the following to learn more about our privacy policy... 1) collection of address, email, mobile, res numbers, etc., while filling up most forms for banks etc. no clear-cut policy with liability responsibility on default mentioned. This policy covers how Yahoo! treats personal information that Yahoo! collects and receives, including information related to your past use of Yahoo! products and services. Personal information is information about you that is personally identifiable like your name, address, email address, or phone number, and that is not otherwise publicly available. This policy does not apply to the practices of companies that Yahoo! does not own or control or to people that Yahoo! does not employ or manage. 2) no policy on sale or hire of such databases to third party or sub-contractors. or to other marketing services. Yahoo! does not rent, sell, or share personal information about you with other people or nonaffiliated companies except to provide products or services you've requested, when we have your permission, or under the following circumstances: We provide the information to trusted partners who work on behalf of or with Yahoo! under confidentiality agreements. These companies may use your personal information to help Yahoo! communicate with you about offers from Yahoo! and our marketing partners. However, these companies do not have any independent right to share this information. 4) spam, marketing junk material need not have any real responsibility Yahoo! uses information for the following general purposes: to customize the advertising and content you see, fulfill your requests for products and services, improve our services, contact you, conduct research, and provide anonymous reporting for internal and external clients. 5) if you ever ask total strangers who call you on marketing calls, where they caught hold of your contact details, they refuse to reveal their source, and promptly hang up. DO we really care to cross check or try to become so reactive that we can find the root cause for it other than just banging on the poor fellow??? Do we care to read all this GYAN written about the privacy before actually signing in or filling any form??? I couldn't find even a drop of it on Indiatimes...If any one finds it plz do let me know) Are we *really* willing to stop using there services just because they don't have any defined Data Protection Policy for there customers??? I wish to do something about this. Who else has some proactive, tangible steps on what we can do that leads to results? We need to put awareness in the general public that this is harmful and will cause a slow poison in us. This is for sure that many of us (including me) care a damm! about it and take it very likely until it actually irritate us and we start crying and screaming for the procedure and policy of various companies... :-( let's try those steps on indiatimes for a start for the spyware email they sent sandip. I am there with you will all my TAN, MAN and DHAN... until it actually affects my job and doesn't involve a Police ruffart in it... I am scared of police... ;o) ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
RE: [ilugd] sendmail problem :(
sendmail is unable to get the MX record of the domain This is the case when the mail server is unable to send mails on a single domain and its working perfect on other domains. ## but when I try sending mail to *anywhere* outside say abc.com it says ## connecting to abc.com via esmtp Then DNS may not be the prime issue rather relaying can be a problem. Contact your ISP, if they have properly given a relay to your IPs. Or you can make your own SMTP server without using the ISP one. Edit /etc/sendmail.cf and change 127.0.0.1 -- Public IP And vi /etc/mail/relay-domains and give the IP block of your network. You can use this as your SMTP server. HTH... BR, Gurpreet ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
RE: [ilugd] Updating linux-delhi.org website
Also Kindly upload the PICS of Newbie meet (Dec. 2003). Thanks and Regards, Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva Can someone Please take some initiative to update linux-delhi.org with current LinuxAsia2004 pics. ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
RE: [ilugd] LinuxAsia, last day
Hats Off for these Guys... May GOD bless them with Open Source!!! :o) Regards, Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Raj Mathur Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 7:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ilugd] LinuxAsia, last day -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all you Dudes and Dudettes out there! Today (13th) is the last day of LinuxAsia 2004. As you'd no doubt recall, ILUG-Delhi has a strong presence out there -- despite being relegated to the stall furthest from the ``real'' action, we're seeing more visitors than probably all the other exhibitors put together! So what're we doing at the ILUGD stall? We're playing loud music. We mainly do 60s and 70s rock, but old Hindi is also available on request :) I mention this because a gentleman from another, nearby stall popped in yesterday and said words to the effect of ``Thanks for the music, otherwise we'd have been very bored out here'' We're selling CDs. We currently have Knoppix 3.3, Fire 0.4, GnuWinII and Mandrake. Plan to get Fedora Core 1 (3-CD set) today. We've sold tons of CDs so far, and given away not a few. Kapil is managing the CD sales, and he's henceforth given the title ``Supreme CD Sales Generalissimo for Life'' in ILUG-Delhi. We're giving demos of Linux to visitors. If Sudev were selling anything he'd be a millionaire by now -- he's so busy demonstrating and discussing LTSP and Linux in the Office that he doesn't even get time to eat lunch! AshLin stands near the entrance of the stall and charms visitors into having a look, and you know what they say, one look and they're hooked. We're pledging support to educational and government institutions who visit the stall. Expect a long list of TODOs once the event is over - -- we've committed to propagating Linux and Free Software all over India, from Almora to Ahmedabad. And, of course, in Delhi. We're having a ball! The days have passed by in a haze of activity, and the evenings in a haze of food and alcohol. So come on, visit the stall up to 2pm today and buy a couple of CDs, talk to some people, make a convert, join the festivities. And while you're there, don't forget to give a special thanks to the people who made this possible. You will get the whole list, but for now let me mention (to the best of my abilities, which are nearly 0 at 0800) those who have selflessly (well, OK, for a couple of samosas) and fearlessly stood up and been counted: Amitabh Anirban AshLin Kapil Kishore Mairu Mary Pankaj Sudev Viksit Vivek Please give a large hand to these folks. If our LUG has managed to achieve anything, it is because of people like you and your unflagging enthusiasm. ...and if I've inadvertently missed you out, please forgive -- extra samosa on me for you today, and maybe even a free cup of tea :) Regards, - -- Raju - -- Raj Mathur[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F It is the mind that moves -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.5.6 and Gnu Privacy Guard http://www.gnupg.org/ iD8DBQFALDW4yWjQ78xo0X8RAtrBAKCWvjZPKtLcL+cBTb026FjsbrQVCgCePUql IiYqqGITd2+2QIQLeWe+FV4= =E3Mg -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
RE: [ilugd] HAS LFY mag. duped us...
No Bipin, I received this month's edition day before yesterday! Probably you too will get a one in a day or two or you can use your right to bang their ears! Pick up the phone buddy :o) Regards, Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of bipin sartape Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2004 5:22 PM To: The Linux-Delhi mailing list Subject: [ilugd] HAS LFY mag. duped us... Hi friends, Has anyone subscribed to LFY (Linux for you) magazines . I think those fellows have duped us because all of a sudden I have stopped receiving them __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
RE: [ilugd] sendmail query
Are you configuring ur own sendmail??? If yes -- Check the entry in /etc/mail/local-host-names (give the domain name in that). Also check the MX records in DNS. They should point properly with the reverse lookup zone configured. Can be a bandwidth issues also but it's a rare case. The *Mailer-Deamon* send back will tell u the whole story :) HTH... Regards, Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva _ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of s nagar Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 1:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ilugd] sendmail query Hi There is one query regarding sendmail, suppose if user is not able to receive mails in his/her inbox but is able to compose mails from the same account what kind of problem is this and how could we rectify this kind of problem. please explain by taking some example. I'll appreciate any initiative from your side. Thanking You - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] hi
Hello Mr. Mathur, I just had a question; I have heard that a normal Linux user can make changes (by some means) into the files of another normal Linux user. Is it possible?? Please guide me towards some of the good books for securing Linux boxes. I am still waiting for my photograph dear :o) Regards, Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
RE: [ilugd] RedHat contact
Mumbai Red Hat India Pvt. Ltd. 135, Mittal Towers, 13th Floor, B-Wing, Nariman Point, Mumbai 400 021 India Phone: +91-22-22881326 : + 91-22-22881327,56306045 : + 91-22-56306193 Fax: +91-22-22881318 Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delhi Red Hat India Pvt. Ltd. B-44, Defence Colony, New Delhi-24 Phone: +91-11-51550569 Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bangalore Name : Rohit Kumar Rai. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mobile: +919886111025. Source: http://www.in.redhat.com/contact/address.php3 Regards, Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sudev Barar Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 3:52 PM To: Linux Help; The Linux-Delhi mailing list Subject: [ilugd] RedHat contact Any one guide me to Delhi (or India) office of RedHat? Contact number / address. -- Sudev Barar Learning Linux Address: D10 NH2, Faridabad 121001 Tel; +91-129-5021588 ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
RE: [ilugd] Firewall implimentation
Hi Dheerendar, How are you doing?? For configuring a firewall in Linux Machine, iptables is the best option. Iptables restrict the flow of incoming and outgoing packets on the base of policies you make. The policies are considered from top to bottom. For making policies using iptables, man iptables is the best resource but you can also refer to http://www.faqs.org/docs/iptables/ Please don't forget to issue iptables-save command in the end and restarting the iptables daemon. Do let me know if you face any problem in doing that. Warm Regards, Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of dks Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 8:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ilugd] Firewall implimentation Hi I want to implement Linux Firewall , Please provide best documentation for implimenatation of firewall. Thanks Regards Dheerendar ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
RE: [ilugd] Help Require to divide Bandwidth
Hi Sandeep, We also had such scenario in my previous organization. I successfully did that by using Pools in squid, wherein you can manage the bandwidth pools on IP base... You can also do that in CISCO by either using QoS or rate-limit based on IPs. HTH... Regards, Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sandeep Agarwal Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 12:26 PM To: The Linux-Delhi mailing list Subject: [ilugd] Help Require to divide Bandwidth Hi Everyone!!! Please help in the following... I have Lease Line of Bharti (64k in 1:4). Presently it is connected as Lease Line (Copper Pair)- RAD HTU E1--RAD FCD-2---Cisco Router 1720 (WIC1T)--Gateway Server Gateway Server (RHL 7.3 with IPChains) have 3 NIC's which are connected as Eth0--Cisco Router Eth1--Switch (For Server's) Eth2--Switch(For Users) Now we are going to upgrade this Lease Line to 128k as one new sister concern is going to open in the same premises. Management wants to divide this 128k into 50-50% in parent sister concern. Can we achieve it on Gateway ? If any other solution has, please suggest. Thanking you in advance. Sandeep Agarwal ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
RE: [ilugd] Club bandwidth
Comments emembeded... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of amit soni Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 7:14 PM To: The Linux-Delhi mailing list Subject: Re: [ilugd] Club bandwidth Yikes!! This gives an impression that all Linux Techie lead a hand to mouth life. I thought Linuxers/GNUers are driven by the statement The most courageous people in the world are volunteers. Aren't you trying to exploit this statement??? However, most of the replies that come from gurus in this mailing list are like, newbies need to be looked down upon. No doubt there are words of encouragement that appear to just float all over. But when a newbie asks a technical query. The replies have a tone HUH! You don't even know that!, get lost, read this, this and this, do a million sit-ups and then come back, I might explain you the real answer. It won't be a sit-up exersice but yes, no body should encourage Mouth Feeding. Progress has little to do with speed, but much to do with direction!!! So a breif direction would let me *scratch* all the possibilties to solve the problem and let all my brothers know, if I found another related thing that would help others in future... Could be due to the fact that 1) The guru is tired of replying to stupid questions 2) The guru is conceited. 3) The guru doesn't want to be with newbies any more. 4) guru is not a guru, but simply wants to be called a guru. The conscience of the soul will help you change and be the best you can be!!! For eg. Ghane replies as if he is going to skin a newbie alive if he/she dared to ask what the command to see a directory listing is! The above example has not much to do with the rest of the mail. If I was a guru I'd probably know. Having, said all that, I as a novice, I still feel nice to be a part of ILUGD. Perhaps the above is NOT true to that extreme, but I do sense it sometimes. And life is what we make it, always has been and always will be :-) -Amit. Cheers!!! -Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
RE: [ilugd] Club bandwidth - linux gurus
No I was just suggesting that rude(which apparently only I felt) comments to linux newbies from Linux gurus can act as a detterent to newbies from being a part of Linux community. Some initial mouth feeding could resolve this? Why we guys always have an escapist attitude??? We never want to open a book or document and dream that some day some magician will come with his magic stick, will make a liquid of the book and will put it in our brain... I *believe* that no one in this group will refuse to answer a sub query on a query (provided you have made a sincere effort to tackle that... Oh I dont know! But this is similar to reinventing the wheel. Something GNU is against.] To a tribe that has seen a wheel for the first time, isnt it better for the world if the tribe is shown how a wheel is used rather than handling them a manual they can't read. Good example!!! But I never knew that you are unable to read the manual... Plz, I am sure that you are grown enough to read something written in simple salty English and even if you find some spice in it, you can always refer to www.dictionary.com. And if any Technical query (no matter how basic it may be); you are always welcome to post them in the list... The tribe could then develop if furhter, rather than discovering the use of the wheel on their own and then starting on to something better OR dumping the wheel aside because they couldnt figure what a wheel is all about! Believe me, I would be the last person on this earth to discourage any one or be a hindrance in the development on anyone in this world... You are most welcome to post any of the queries/questions/suggestions and I am nobody to stop anyone from doing this... Ofcourse, Sandip's point of hiring is accepted. But hire or I wont tell you a thing, just do what you want with the manual is unhealthy. Can we call the tribe dumb if they are not able to figure out the use of a wheel on their own ? Mercy! But ...are you drunk or a philosopher? Sorry!!! I don't drink and it was just to lighten up the mood... At the center of the Linux philosophy is a concept that we now call Open Source Software Cheers!!! Regards, Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
RE: [ilugd] what career opportunity for me
Hi Ramesh, I am sorry since my core area is Linux Administration/Networking and Securities; I won't be able to throw appropriate light on the Combo of Linux + C. But many of my friends are working on it in Bangalore and Hyderabad. I surely will forward your query to them. Yes!!! Linux in Networking is a hot area and I have seen many openings in various ISPs, IT and Non IT firms. Again it's a truth that they need guys with an exp. Of at least 1-2 years. But if you can manage to gather some practical knowledge, things are not so difficult. You never know, when a Penguin will knock your door... Regards, Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva _ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ramesh chandra Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 2:22 PM To: The Linux-Delhi mailing list Subject: Re: [ilugd] what career opportunity for me hanks for your kind response, i have already registered in naukri.com, monsterindia.com, jobsahead.com, timesjobs.com, jobdb.com. and i periodically visit these sites but the problem is everyone is seeking for experience person. and i have noone who guide me in this area, all my friends are java programmer, will you suggest me some specific field i have to concentrate on (Qt, KDE, Gtk, GNOME, X Window, Linux networking, etc) currently i am working on Qt-KDE and MySql. ramesh - Original Message - From: Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Linux-Delhi mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 11:44 PM Subject: RE: [ilugd] what career opportunity for me Hi Ramesh, Plz don't get dishearten, there are huge amount of Jobs in the combo -- Linux + C @ naukri dot com. Just have a look on jobs available in LFY for the past few months. Or just do let me know if I can help you in finding a one. Regards, Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva _ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ramesh chandra Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 1:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ilugd] what career opportunity for me ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
RE: [ilugd] Knoppix Kicks!!!!!
OUTPORT is a very good tool that can be used. -- http://outport.sourceforge.net/ http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-mini/Outlook-to-Unix-Mailbox.html can also help. HTH... Regards, Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva _ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mani Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 1:35 AM To: The Linux-Delhi mailing list Subject: Re: [ilugd] Knoppix Kicks! Is there any similar tool that can conver the .pst files of Microsoft Outlook? (Yes Ms outlook and MS-outlook express are different ;) Regards Mani - Original Message - From: LinuxLingam [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Suraj Berwal [EMAIL PROTECTED]; The Linux-Delhi mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 1:07 AM Subject: Re: [ilugd] Knoppix Kicks! On Tue, 2004-01-13 at 19:01, Suraj Berwal wrote: 4. Another thing is I need a email client which can import all my mails from the Outlook Express 6. google search for 'dbfconv' which is a small 24k utility, that converts a bleak outlook into a rosy future . . . . it converts dbx datafiles into mbx, which almost all email clients open. your real problem is your contact list. just export that as an ldap file, or even a *.csv, and then import that into the email client of choice under gnulinux, then you'll be okay. :-) LL ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
RE: [ilugd] Re: Promiscuous Mode of Ethernet
Hi AMS, Now I got that, Thanks Buddy!!! Regards, Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva _ ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
RE: [ilugd] Re: Promiscuous Mode of Ethernet
Hi AMS, I am sorry but I couldn't get *(instead of only those that are addressed to it)*. Yeh baat kuch hazam nahi hui... Please elaborate :-( Regards, Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva At 2004-01-09 02:02:33 +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What exactly is promiscuous mode? It's a mode in which an Ethernet card receives all frames on the network (instead of only those that are addressed to it). In this case, tcpdump is setting the promiscuous mode on your interface, which will return to normal when you exit tcpdump. I would appreciate it deep from my heart if someone explains it deeply... Did you ask Google about promiscuous mode? -- ams ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] Promiscuous Mode of Ethernet
Hi Folks, I configured NFS a few days back, and after giving #tcpdump command, I was shown that the Ethernet is running in promiscuous mode and a huge amount of packets were coming in and out of the poor box!!! Can anyone throw some light on it...? What exactly is promiscuous mode? I would appreciate it deep from my heart if someone explains it deeply... Thanks and Regards, Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] Photographs and minuts of the last meet!!!
Hi guys, I just wanted to ask if someone is uploading the minutes and the photographs of the December meet on the website. Would humbly request RAJ to send me some of the photographs including the one (U + me + Penguin Uncle), off list. I would appreciate that. Regards, Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
RE: [ilugd] now, help on lilo
Oops!!! 3 hours and that too precious... OMG!!! Was there any separate boot partition when the linux was running on both pf its legs? After booting it in rescue mode, what does fdisk -l says??? You need to mount the file system of linux, change root on the mounted file system and then make changes and do some formalities of sync sync before un-mounting and exiting... HTH... Regards, Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva _ | Organisational Unit: Nokia | Direct dial US: +1 613-271-6721 Option 5 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | www.igate.com iGate Global Process Outsourcing Limited | C133/A Sector - 2 | Noida | 201 301 | India| +91 (120) 254-8520 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vijay Raghavan Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 3:24 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ilugd] now, help on lilo Hello, I had a dual boot system with redhat linux and winxp. Winxp was giving a lot of problems. so decided to remove it and install win 2000. did it and as usual, lilo was gone. I have faced such a problem earlier too but I always used to reinstalled linux and I dont want to take the same old step. The steps I took: 1) used knoppix, was able to mount the root, was able to edit lilo.conf (used vi) but was unable to run lilo. whenever i ran lilo, it gave some error saying 'there's some problem in lilo.conf at line number xx'. I searched for some sample lilo.conf and there was no mistake. 2) used 2-3 floppy bootable linux distributions but was unseccussful. 3) since i can't go into dos, i can't use loadlin. i used a dos bootable floppy and tried loadlin from there but to no avail. 4) I even used the RHL 8.0 first CD to get into the rescue mode and try from there. but it says that there aren't any linux partitions present in the hard disk. ufff, there are i guess because explore2fs is able to read the partitions. NOW WHAT SHOULD I DO, I NEED LINUX TO STAND UP AND START RUNNING. Just the day before I lost linux, i apt-get_ed it. It took precious 3 hours of mine. regards, vijay. -- Vijay Raghavan [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Send your email first class ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] Help needed!!!
Can anyone in the group refer me some good material on the net/books for CISA and CISSP. I can understand it's an off-topic request but the urgency forced me to post this request. Any God's man there to help me out!!! Knock Knock!!! Regards, Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
RE: [ilugd] delay in bootup process - RH 8.0
Must be due to Time Skew Error... Try #touch /etc/mail #touch /etc/mail/* And restart the Sendmail service... HTH... Regards, Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MALKIAT BENIPAL Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 1:17 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ilugd] delay in bootup process - RH 8.0 Hello guys, I have installed RH 8.0 on a HCL PC. While booting and coming at the stage of Starting mail it takes approx. 3-4 minutes and then proceeds ahead. Pl. guide where is the problem. I shall be thankful to you. Best Regards, MALKIAT [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
RE: [ilugd] ILUG-D: pl rpy
Even I am taking Linux classes on weekends and in the institute in which I am doing free lancing take very decent and reasonable charges. The course is for the RHCE covering all the three modules. If you want to further enquire about anything, you can contact me off-list. Regards, Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva _ | Organisational Unit: Nokia | Direct dial US: +1 613-271-6721 Option 5 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | www.igate.com iGate Global Process Outsourcing Limited | C133/A Sector - 2 | Noida | 201 301 | India| +91 (120) 254-8520 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2003 10:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ilugd] ILUG-D: pl rpy [Please CC the original poster -- Raju] Message from Mr. Sandipan Saha: sir/mam i have some quary about linux 1. if i want 2 learn linux where should i go(in delhi). 2.how much i have 2 give as a tution fees. 3. details about course institute address. thank you. -- This email is brought to you by http://www.linux-delhi.org/ ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
RE: [ilugd] Has any one used floppy based Linux firewalls/routers? Whathas been the experience?
Arjun, You may go ahead with IPTABLES which will also help you in NAT/Proxy -- Simple and Sweet :-) Or else squid is also an option wherein you can use ACLs and data caching simultaneously... HTH... Regards, Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva _ | Organisational Unit: Nokia | Direct dial US: +1 613-271-6721 Option 5 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | www.igate.com iGate Global Process Outsourcing Limited | C133/A Sector - 2 | Noida | 201 301 | India| 9811138897 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Arjun Asthana Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2003 4:20 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ilugd] Has any one used floppy based Linux firewalls/routers? Whathas been the experience? Dear Friends, I plan to use an old PC based Linux firewall/router for my father's office network. I want to know which ones are good and can be used/implemented easily. There will be around 20 Win/Lin machines with one proxy+mail server (may be Linux). The network will be connected to Internet thru cable/DSL/Modem. The Lin firewall/router will sit between the internal network and internet. Regards. Arjun Asthana [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-12-25 17:14:52 When you lose, don't lose the lesson. ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
RE: [ilugd] Doubling Download Speed
Hi Varun, I *believe* its not possible as the 24 hours online won't allow you to do so. If by any chance you manage to introduce a proxy at your client end, it should be a transparent one and that is impossible with a single LAN card. Regards, Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva _ | Organisational Unit: Nokia | Direct dial US: +1 613-271-6721 Option 5 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | www.igate.com iGate Global Process Outsourcing Limited | C133/A Sector - 2 | Noida | 201 301 | India| +91 (120) 254-8520 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Varun Anand Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2003 11:48 PM To: ILUGD Mailing List Subject: [ilugd] Doubling Download Speed hey people i have a 24 online cable connection at my place. the cable-waalah has capped the speed at 32kbps. i have a friend who also has subscribed to the same cable-waalah and are being serviced by the same hub(he lives some 25 ft from my place). his computer is usually on the whole day and is used to check the mail only and/or to type some office related documents. so his internet connection is just there to prevent misuse of the dial-up connection. and since i am usually downloading something or the other :D i was wondering if i can double my speed by installing a proxy server s/w at his place and routing half of my internet traffic thru his comp thereby doubling my effective speed. I won't be able to install more LAN card on his machine. and he uses win98 and won't be able to change the s/w at his place. i use RHL9.0. any pointers affly Varun Anand ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
RE: [ilugd] The December Meet
Hi Ashwin, First of all thanks for considering my offer. Sure I will get the details you require in a day or two. I believe it's a *pleasure* more me in contributing in such a noble gesture. Regards, Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ashwin Baindur Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 3:59 AM To: The Linux-Delhi mailing list Subject: Re: [ilugd] The December Meet Dear Gurpreet, Thanks for the offer. Can you get me some figures as to how many will attend from SSI? Names, phone-numbers, email ids would make it perfect ;-). But of course, if one cant get these things, a rough indication such as .. I think 5 chaps will be there on 21st ... will help. The meet agenda will be finalised in the next week. Regards, Ashwin - Original Message - From: Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Linux-Delhi mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 1:39 PM Subject: RE: [ilugd] The December Meet Dear Ashwin, That's sounds good... On this auspicious occasion, (With your permission) I take the ownership to distribute such a message among the students of almost all the SSI institutes in Delhi. But kindly confirm the entire program to me. I have decided to take active part in all the meets in future. Regards, Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ashwin Baindur Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2003 9:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ilugd] The December Meet Dear Puneet, that's cool! looks very exciting. wish i can be there too. my two cents :) Thanks for your enthusiasm. We need support from enthu people like you. So I welcome you to the volunteer committee for the Dec meet and hope to see you contribute. Since I do not have time (I'm a chief administrator of a govt college ((all students of late 50s age))) may I request you to kindly compose and put up notices in two Colleges having IT DEptts/computer courses? This is to be done after I send Raju final programme, sometime after Dec 01. Do let me know where you are putting up the notices. and more advertisement about linux-delhi. and in case we are getting overcrouded we can put some small enterence fees, just to cover up expenses Regretfully, I am vetoing your suggestion for entrance fees. I'm of the opinion that it would act like a barrier. A better model is the present one ie to request those who earn to shell out Rs 50/- or Rs 100/- as per your ichha; students may dish out less or need not dish out if they are hard up. In this way we pay for our eats/drinks. Newbies buy their CDs at Rs 30/- or so. and to keep the freebies(i mean ppl who are not serious enough) out . There is nothing which is free in the world. I welcome people to a Newbies meet. If they come, they may become serious. Thanks for your involvement :-) Regards, Ashwin From: Puneet [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: The Linux-Delhi mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Linux-Delhi mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ilugd] The December Meet Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:11:41 +0530 To increase the presence we can advertise this event at some colleges and Computer institutes like NIIT and some companies. those are the places where we will be getting most of the newbies and ppl who are just willing to know more about Linux. I am sure our current members can do this kind of advertisement at their place either by word of mouth or mailing to companies list or so n so. Of course we will be geeting more volunteer for next meets I am already smelling a fabulous and quality presence there :). cheers! Puneet ** Dont be fooled!! The penguins are coming!!! ** - Original Message - From: LinuxLingam [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Linux-Delhi mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 12:09 AM Subject: Re: [ilugd] The December Meet On Wed, 2003-11-19 at 17:26, Ashwin Baindur wrote: * With help - Volunteers required please who can showcase the install, the use of the Seven Steps to Samadhi programmes, speak on Newbie topics. i have done several talks, seminars, and workshops, where have walked through the seven steps to samadhi programme. the document is both an outcome of that, and a documentation for that. could do one for ilug-d as well. suggestion: one or two newbies could bring their *fully backed up* and ready-to-migrate pcs to the meet, where volunteers could demo an install. * With resources - For example, I'd appreciate if you can bring some Linux books, CDs or something to the meet to show/inspire/educate the Newbie. abhishek could come with a nice collection set of LinuxForYou *and* a one-page flier of a summary of topics
RE: [ilugd] Linux Support Engineers
Hi Rahul, I will request you to first *mind* your language. Secondly do let us know what the dam thing you want *we guys* to do for you... Plz elaborate your reason for writing such rash words. But plz for GOD sake this time write in an easy language... Regards, Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rahul Barua Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 7:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Kaushal Bhandu; The Linux-Delhi mailing list Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ilugd] Linux Support Engineers Dear All , Who the Fuck cares wat the Linux group accepts or not , well u guyz are just a big fart building websites and debugging sound card and agp card issues ,well not to mention u all suck while givin real support and i dont understand how come all o/p data becomes insufficient and incomprehensible suddenly ,any way the linux group can spare me the atrocities id be happy , plz I have not subscribed to any of ur services .Dont bother , just go and kiss ass some where else , and kaushal why do u think these guys are of any help , havent u seen other forums .thanks for trying anyway ..Delhi Linux Fart list .. Regards Rahul Barua Try not . Do . Or do not . There is no try . -- Yoda . - Original Message - From: Tarun Dua [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Kaushal Bhandu [EMAIL PROTECTED]; The Linux-Delhi mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 11:57 AM Subject: Re: [ilugd] Linux Support Engineers On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 10:37, Kaushal Bhandu wrote: May I request you to please clarify the context in which this mail was sent to a awed members of Linux Delhi and enlighten us. I can't seem to make any head or tail out of it. -Tarun PS:The ilugd list doesn't accept any attachments. From: Kaushal Bhandu [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Linux Support Engineers Those who can, do. Those who cannot, teach. Those who cannot teach, HACK! Kaushal Bhandankar room#259 hostel #5 NIT Kurukshetra Kurukshetra Haryana 136119 INDIA. ph (0) 98121 84680 -- http://www.tarundua.net Nothing you ever wanted to find about Tarun Dua ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
RE: [ilugd] The December Meet
Dear Ashwin, That's sounds good... On this auspicious occasion, (With your permission) I take the ownership to distribute such a message among the students of almost all the SSI institutes in Delhi. But kindly confirm the entire program to me. I have decided to take active part in all the meets in future. Regards, Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ashwin Baindur Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2003 9:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ilugd] The December Meet Dear Puneet, that's cool! looks very exciting. wish i can be there too. my two cents :) Thanks for your enthusiasm. We need support from enthu people like you. So I welcome you to the volunteer committee for the Dec meet and hope to see you contribute. Since I do not have time (I'm a chief administrator of a govt college ((all students of late 50s age))) may I request you to kindly compose and put up notices in two Colleges having IT DEptts/computer courses? This is to be done after I send Raju final programme, sometime after Dec 01. Do let me know where you are putting up the notices. and more advertisement about linux-delhi. and in case we are getting overcrouded we can put some small enterence fees, just to cover up expenses Regretfully, I am vetoing your suggestion for entrance fees. I'm of the opinion that it would act like a barrier. A better model is the present one ie to request those who earn to shell out Rs 50/- or Rs 100/- as per your ichha; students may dish out less or need not dish out if they are hard up. In this way we pay for our eats/drinks. Newbies buy their CDs at Rs 30/- or so. and to keep the freebies(i mean ppl who are not serious enough) out . There is nothing which is free in the world. I welcome people to a Newbies meet. If they come, they may become serious. Thanks for your involvement :-) Regards, Ashwin From: Puneet [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: The Linux-Delhi mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Linux-Delhi mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ilugd] The December Meet Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:11:41 +0530 To increase the presence we can advertise this event at some colleges and Computer institutes like NIIT and some companies. those are the places where we will be getting most of the newbies and ppl who are just willing to know more about Linux. I am sure our current members can do this kind of advertisement at their place either by word of mouth or mailing to companies list or so n so. Of course we will be geeting more volunteer for next meets I am already smelling a fabulous and quality presence there :). cheers! Puneet ** Dont be fooled!! The penguins are coming!!! ** - Original Message - From: LinuxLingam [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Linux-Delhi mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 12:09 AM Subject: Re: [ilugd] The December Meet On Wed, 2003-11-19 at 17:26, Ashwin Baindur wrote: * With help - Volunteers required please who can showcase the install, the use of the Seven Steps to Samadhi programmes, speak on Newbie topics. i have done several talks, seminars, and workshops, where have walked through the seven steps to samadhi programme. the document is both an outcome of that, and a documentation for that. could do one for ilug-d as well. suggestion: one or two newbies could bring their *fully backed up* and ready-to-migrate pcs to the meet, where volunteers could demo an install. * With resources - For example, I'd appreciate if you can bring some Linux books, CDs or something to the meet to show/inspire/educate the Newbie. abhishek could come with a nice collection set of LinuxForYou *and* a one-page flier of a summary of topics through the 10 months for newbies. * By passing the word to Newbies about this Golden Opprtunity - if we can get even say a dozen newbies of whom say even three-four get hooked - we'd have achieved success. Anything more than that would be good success, great success or extraordinary success (depending on how many come .AND. become Linux-lovers). neat idea. I'd be able to do a little bit of each of the things I've asked help for - but the success of an ILUGD Meet depends on - how many ILUGDites actually come, and as importantly, how many get 'involved' in organising the meet. members could spread the word *beyond* and *outside* the firewalls of linux-delhi? ad-hoc, verbatim. what do you say? Now, dear ILUGDites - the cat is out of the bag. Let's put our words into action and move forward to make the Meet a success. PS - I promise to deliver on the Jungle Juice ;-) . Regards, Ashwin let's do a dhamaka in december :-) LL ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net
RE: [ilugd] Attendees, November Meet
Hi Raj, Can you plz also send the minutes (briefly describing) what was discussed in the meeting. This will surely encourage *newbies* like me to actively take part in the next meet. Thanks and Regards, Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva _ | Organisational Unit: Nokia | Direct dial US: +1 613-271-6721 Option 5 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | www.igate.com iGate Global Process Outsourcing Limited | C133/A Sector - 2 | Noida | 201 301 | India| +91 (120) 254-8520 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Raj Mathur Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 4:57 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ilugd] Attendees, November Meet List of people who attended the ILUGD November Meet at Dilli Haat, 2003-11-16: Alolita Sharma as (at) technetra (dot) com Anuj Sharma anuj (dot) sharma (at) hpsglobal (dot) com Ashish Mukherjee ashishm (at) grex (dot) org Ashwin Baindur ashwin_baindur (at) yahoo (dot) com Jasmeet Virdi jvirdi (at) softhome (dot) net Kishore Bhargava kishore (at) linkaxis (dot) com Nagadeepan xyberdip (at) yahoo (dot) com Nitin Chandra nitin_chandra1 (at) yahoo (dot) com Pankaj Kaushal penguinhead (at) linux-delhi (dot) org Rajesh Kumarrajeshbabu (at) hotmail (dot) com Raju Mathur raju (at) linux-delhi (dot) org Robert Adkins radkins (at) technetra (dot) com Sudev Barar sudev (at) mantraonline (dot) com Supreet Sethisupreet (at) softhome (dot) net Tarun Dua tarundua (at) linux-delhi (dot) org Vivek Khuranakhuranavivek_in (at) yahoo (dot) com V Vivek v_vivek_in (at) yahoo (dot) com Thanks to Ashwin Baindur for the list. -- Raju -- Raj Mathur[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F It is the mind that moves ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
RE: [ilugd] User name with Enter as password.
Well that is fine and I already did that but dear my question was to give *Enter* as password. This activity will remove the password and won't ask the user for it. But the target is that while the user logs into the Red Hat Linux machine, he should be prompted for a password and after the user gives *Enter* as a password, he should be able to login. Just in case of Windows 2000. Regards, Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva _ | Organisational Unit: Nokia | Direct dial US: +1 613-271-6721 Option 5 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | www.igate.com iGate Global Process Outsourcing Limited | C133/A Sector - 2 | Noida | 201 301 | India| +91 (120) 254-8520 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Abhishek Kumar Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 4:26 AM To: The Linux-Delhi mailing list Subject: Re: [ilugd] User name with Enter as password. remove the entry in second column in /etc/passwd for any user and it won't ask for password for ex guru:*: to guru:: regards Abhishek - Original Message - From: Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Linux-Delhi mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 11:31 PM Subject: [ilugd] User name with Enter as password. Hi Folks, I was wondering if there is an option in any of the Red Hat Flavors, that we can give *ENTER* as the password for a particular user... like we do in Windows. Do let me know if it's possible or not... Regards, Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] How can I change my Email
Hi Group, My email ID has been changed. I updated that in my profile and even contacted the administrator of Linux-delhi but still I am not able to receive mails on my new ID. Plz help me as my present account will expire in 2 days Happy Diwali Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
RE: [ilugd] Postgres vs oracle
Correct! To be more precise: The standard form of VACUUM is best used with the goal of maintaining a fairly level steady-state usage of disk space. The standard form finds old tuples and makes their space available for re-use within the table, but it does not try very hard to shorten the table file and return disk space to the operating system. If you need to return disk space to the operating system you can use VACUUM FULL --- but whats the point of releasing disk space that will only have to be allocated again soon? Moderately frequent standard VACUUMs are a better approach than infrequent VACUUM FULLs for maintaining heavily-updated tables. Recommended practice for most sites is to schedule a database-wide VACUUM once a day at a lowusage time of day, supplemented by more frequent vacuuming of heavily-updated tables if necessary. (If you have multiple databases in an installation, dont forget to vacuum each one; the vacuumdb script may be helpful.) Use plain VACUUM, not VACUUM FULL, for routine vacuuming for space recovery. VACUUM FULL is recommended for cases where you know you have deleted the majority of tuples in a table, so that the steady-state size of the table can be shrunk substantially with VACUUM FULLs more aggressive approach. If you have a table whose contents are deleted completely every so often, consider doing it with TRUNCATE rather than using DELETE followed by VACUUM. Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva -Original Message- From: Raj Mathur [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu 10/16/2003 5:38 PM To: The Linux-Delhi mailing list Cc: Subject: Re: [ilugd] Postgres vs oracle -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ambar == Ambar Roy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Surely NO...so we would certainly be interested to know some of your Ambar Biggest Internet Sites running on open source. Geocrawler use Postgres. Ambar Intresting thing about Geocrawler AudioGalaxy using Ambar postgres was that both of these sites seemed to go offline Ambar for daily maintainence during the middle of the day here in Ambar India. Both the sites ran Postgresql, and were probably Ambar running a daily database cleanup. IMHO this is what has Ambar kept me away from considering postgresql for serious Ambar databases. Has this issue of regular database maintainence Ambar been solved by the recent versions of postgresql? PostgreSQL (PgSQL) has two types of ``cleanup'': vacuum and vacuum full. The first (plain vacuum) merely marked unused (deleted) disk clusters as free but does not compact the physical database. The second (vacuum full) does all that and also physically compacts the database on disk. Using vacuum full will lock up your database, no queries or transactions will be possible while it is running. However most databases achieve a sort of `steady state' (roughly the same number of records being added and deleted regularly) and plain vacuum suffices for that. Transactions are possible during vacuum, and most installations will prefer to use that periodically over vacuum full. It's only if your database sizes vary wildly over the course of time that you'll need to use vacuum full (and consequently bring the system down for maintenance). The above is from my understanding of PgSQL, would appreciate clarifications in case I've missed anything out. Ambar Another intresting thing about postgresql is that while the Ambar web hosting control panels on Linux used to only support Ambar MySQL, cPanel Plesk now have support for Postgresql. To Ambar me this is a good sign. Now even smaller sites can start Ambar using Postgresql. Regards, - -- Raju - -- Raj Mathur[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F It is the mind that moves -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.5.6 and Gnu Privacy Guard http://www.gnupg.org/ iD8DBQE/joo+yWjQ78xo0X8RAh/9AJ92FPCIhsOSYWwlOrgI610XI6IjtQCbBOCv apkVPv4S87Ot14c7+YDzGwo= =RF8Y -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
RE: [ilugd] Postgres vs oracle
Hi Tarun, Let me make it very cleat that I don't have any hunch in open source and thats why I am in the list but my dear, facts are facts. (Is Amazon.com running on open source (database)? Is eBay.com running on open source (database)? Is Yahoo.com running on open source (database)? Surely NO...so we would certainly be interested to know some of your Biggest Internet Sites running on open source. Kindly show us any relevant benchmark to prove your point on your tried and tested approach. That (deploying parallel servers) reminds me of a circus. Parallel execution of query in PostgeSQL? Try out and f'd for yourself. And also do let us know if we can live without Foreign Keys in a relational world (MySQL)? Well I would prefer (anyday) a muft thandi lassi than a muft thanda software. Regards, Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva -Original Message- From: Tarun Dua [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue 10/14/2003 2:16 PM To: The Linux-Delhi mailing list Cc: Subject: RE: [ilugd] Postgres vs oracle On Mon, 2003-10-13 at 22:13, Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva wrote: The strategy of employing dual servers to divide your data is a short term arrangement. Lot of performance related issues *will* crop up in the future and lot of fingers would be raised on you. No such things would happen if the architecture is good. If at all this would normally lead to performance improvement not degradation. The strategy to divide the Database onto multiple parallel servers is a good one And a tried and tested one at that. It would be anyday faster than a single large footprint database cluster. All you would need to do is pick up data in parallel from more than one database to generate a report and very likely use a single database for a transaction. And Gurpreet about your hunch on using a Free Software. Biggest of Internet Sites are running on open source databases. And you have option of paying up if you don't like Free(muft as in thandi lassi) software. -Tarun ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
RE: [ilugd] Postgres vs oracle
Dear Tarun, Comparison of PostgreSQL (open source) vis-a-vis Oracle (commercial) is UNFAIR! The subject *should* be PostgeSQL vs Foxpro Ooops MySQL. PostgreSQL no doubt is a good database BUT you can't match Oracle's superior technology. Its in the business for the past 27 years (PostgreSQL made its presence felt in 1996) and a dominant player (40% market share). Oracle's database is supported on PDAs to MPP machines (support for more than 200 platforms). PostgreSQL CAN't boast such kind of statistics. Replication Support was ONLY announced lately 28/08/2003. It will take *some* time to mature (bug fixing underway). Fail over support Yawn, Yawn ...N/D (No Details). Oracle's technology (i.e Real Application Clusters) *is* UNBREAKABLE. Consider this: Synonyms Postgres: No Updateable views Postgres: No. Partial rollback of transaction Postgres: No. Practically useful maximum number of concurrent users Postgres: N/D Practical maximum number of concurrent users writing to the database Postgres: N/D Incremental backups Postgres: No. Scalability - Support for SMP systems (parallel query execution, etc.) Postgres: Postgres is not threaded, but every connection gets it's own process. The OS will distribute the processes across the processors. Basically a single connection will not be any faster with SMP, but multiple connections will be. Bitmap indexes Postgres: No. OLAP supporting functions in SQL Postgres: No. Automatic partitioning of large tables/indexes Postgres: No. Gateways to other DBMSs Postgres: None. Access to multiple databases in one session Postgres: Only switching between databases. Two phase commit Postgres: No. VLDB implementations Postgres: 60GB+ databases exist BUT performance usually degrades. Support from CASE packages Postgres: N/D Special solutions for storage of XML documents Postgres: No. XML support integrated in DBMS Postgres: No. Dedicated Web servers Postgres: None. Automatic recovery from failures Postgres: No. There is no transaction log, so the only recovery method is to restore database from backup Availability and quality of technical support Postgres: ONLY mailing lists and web-site (postgresql.org). Poor. Specific market segments occupied Postgres: Mostly in education and small web services -Original Message- From: Tarun Upadhyay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Fri 10/10/2003 9:50 PM To: 'The Linux-Delhi mailing list' Cc: Subject: [ilugd] Postgres vs oracle We have a customer application on oracle. They want to crate a small footprint version of it to be sold at a cheaper price. I want to suggest that Postgres could be the right choice of database for that as it is close to oracle in its sql syntax and hence porting should be simpler. Can anybody guide me on what kind of pitfalls we could run into by choosing Postgres. The database is not very large but is much larger than what goes for database in mysql discussions (about 1 GB of data, 100 tables with about 10-50 MB added every day)? In particular, I would be interested in hearing from people who have run moderately large databases on postgres and how fast they found it. I have heard that it is possible to now provide replication and fail over with postgres. Has anybody tried it? Tarun ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
RE: [ilugd] Postgres vs oracle
Hi Tarun, I think you are trying to compare a Apple with a Water Melon. But any case if you are really facing a real time scenario, please make it clear. what exactly the application you are running and how many concurrent user you are expecting to be there as concurrency is a major factor which can cause ample amount of problems for the DBA. I make sure that I would be able to solve all your queries. Regards, Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva -Original Message- From: Tarun Upadhyay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Fri 10/10/2003 9:50 PM To: 'The Linux-Delhi mailing list' Cc: Subject: [ilugd] Postgres vs oracle We have a customer application on oracle. They want to crate a small footprint version of it to be sold at a cheaper price. I want to suggest that Postgres could be the right choice of database for that as it is close to oracle in its sql syntax and hence porting should be simpler. Can anybody guide me on what kind of pitfalls we could run into by choosing Postgres. The database is not very large but is much larger than what goes for database in mysql discussions (about 1 GB of data, 100 tables with about 10-50 MB added every day)? In particular, I would be interested in hearing from people who have run moderately large databases on postgres and how fast they found it. I have heard that it is possible to now provide replication and fail over with postgres. Has anybody tried it? Tarun ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] Free SWAN
Hi group, Can any one plz give me some good documentation on FreeSwan on Redhat Linux. I was trying to configure VPN on my Linux Box but was failed to that. Can any one guide me how to that. Thanks, Warm Regards, Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
