Re: [ilugd] [OT]Wireless Router
On 11/09/2007, Vikas Rawal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Off the topic, at the end of the day, I was unable to install ubuntu on the machine either. It was a new AMD dual core HP laptop with broadcom wireless lan and nvidia graphics card. Ubuntu feisty fawn did not install either with the regular i386 CD or with the alternate CD. I had an edubuntu 6.06 CD at hand but that would not install either. My machine specs match and this is going out using Ubuntu on wireless. You need to blacklist bcm43xx driver and use ndiswrapper to install the original windows inf file. See my blog at blog.sudev.in for details. -- Regards, Sudev Barar See you at 'Freed.in - freedom in technology software' - India's leading free and open source community event. 28- 29 September 2007, New Delhi. Entry free, on first come basis. Register at http://Freed.in ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] [OT]Wireless Router
My machine specs match and this is going out using Ubuntu on wireless. You need to blacklist bcm43xx driver and use ndiswrapper to install the original windows inf file. See my blog at blog.sudev.in for details. Thanks Sudev. I will try to implement your tips next time I am in Kolkata, and will report to the list if I succeed. Vikas ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] [OT]Wireless Router
Also, he paid for the Vista along with his PC. The philosophy is not to force and convince people for using Linux/Ubuntu. If a user can afford hefty sum for the Operating System, he can use that. Linux and FOSS started for free availablity of OS and software, and share the knowledge. There is really no agenda of forcing or convincing people by this mean. Many of us have had to buy laptops with Microsoft OSs simply because there were very limited options where you could buy the hardware without them. The fact that the machine came pre-installed with a windows OS does not prove anything. My machine came pre-installed with Windows. Sudev has already written about his machine. But I don't have too much disagreement with your overall point. Vikas ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] [OT]Wireless Router
On 9/12/07, Ravi Shanker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2007-09-11 at 22:46 +0530, Goldwyn Rodrigues wrote: I recently bought a Dell Inspiron 1420 laptop. I have an existing Airtel DSL Connection at home.I want to share this internet connection with my laptop through a wireless router. My DSL modem is connected to my desktop via Ethernet. I have never bought a wireless router so dont know what to look for and what to watch out for. If you wish to save on electricity and the the numbers of wires coming from your switch board, you can ask Airtel to give you a DSL Modem+router. They usually supply a D-Link one. I would be really thankful if any of you could provide me with some helpful hints. Another question that I have is how do i go about installing Ubuntu on this laptop. Should i format the drive,install ubuntu and then install the Vista Home Preimium that comes along with it. The pre paritioned configuration has a recovery partition also.Whatsthat bit for, and does it need to be recreated for Vista to run?? The recovery partition you got in HP is its specific drive, where your vista is backup up. I have Dell not HP. Did you get the VISTA bootable install CD? I think you didnt. I did. But the OS came preinstalled. And bro, I have used Vista on friends PC, liked its Interface and minute work in UI/Presentation, Umm...Have only been using it for like a week. But somehow it just feels like its changed for changing. And im trying to reduce my dependance on WIndows and related software. havent taken that pirated office CD from my friend. Using open office, no prbs so far. -- Puneet ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] [OT]Wireless Router
I recently bought a Dell Inspiron 1420 laptop. I have an existing Airtel DSL Connection at home.I want to share this internet connection with my laptop through a wireless router. My DSL modem is connected to my desktop via Ethernet. I have never bought a wireless router so dont know what to look for and what to watch out for. If you wish to save on electricity and the the numbers of wires coming from your switch board, you can ask Airtel to give you a DSL Modem+router. They usually supply a D-Link one. I would be really thankful if any of you could provide me with some helpful hints. Another question that I have is how do i go about installing Ubuntu on this laptop. Should i format the drive,install ubuntu and then install the Vista Home Preimium that comes along with it. The pre paritioned configuration has a recovery partition also.Whats that bit for, and does it need to be recreated for Vista to run?? I think Ubuntu can resize and re-partition Windown NTFS partitions, but I am not sure about Vista. Ubuntu will ask you during install. -- Goldwyn ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] [OT]Wireless Router
I think Ubuntu can resize and re-partition Windown NTFS partitions, but I am not sure about Vista. Ubuntu will ask you during install. I was recently trying to use Ubuntu to resize an NTFS partition created by vista, only to find that ubuntu could not resize it. Vista, as I mentioned in an earlier post, would resize it only by a limited extent and not as much as I wanted. Eventually I convinced the person whose machine I was setting up to throw out Vista. Off the topic, at the end of the day, I was unable to install ubuntu on the machine either. It was a new AMD dual core HP laptop with broadcom wireless lan and nvidia graphics card. Ubuntu feisty fawn did not install either with the regular i386 CD or with the alternate CD. I had an edubuntu 6.06 CD at hand but that would not install either. The machine is in Kolkata (I am back in Delhi) waiting for somebody to install ubuntu/debian. It is running WinXP at the moment, with a partition kept for linux. Would much appreciate if somebody based in Kolkata could help. (I know this thread was about something else, and that this is Delhi LUG. Sorry.) Vikas ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] [OT]Wireless Router
On Tue, 2007-09-11 at 22:46 +0530, Goldwyn Rodrigues wrote: I recently bought a Dell Inspiron 1420 laptop. I have an existing Airtel DSL Connection at home.I want to share this internet connection with my laptop through a wireless router. My DSL modem is connected to my desktop via Ethernet. I have never bought a wireless router so dont know what to look for and what to watch out for. If you wish to save on electricity and the the numbers of wires coming from your switch board, you can ask Airtel to give you a DSL Modem+router. They usually supply a D-Link one. I would be really thankful if any of you could provide me with some helpful hints. Another question that I have is how do i go about installing Ubuntu on this laptop. Should i format the drive,install ubuntu and then install the Vista Home Preimium that comes along with it. The pre paritioned configuration has a recovery partition also.Whats that bit for, and does it need to be recreated for Vista to run?? The recovery partition you got in HP is its specific drive, where your vista is backup up. Did you get the VISTA bootable install CD? I think you didnt. Vista is not distributed like this with HP. Its setup comes preinstalled, and when you start computer for the first time, it installs it. It let you make a backup CD's series, thats what you must be having. If this is the case, you should not reinstall vista, just make some room for Ubuntu, use Vista to resize the disk partition (Not HP backup partition, but C: ) if it allows. And bro, I have used Vista on friends PC, liked its Interface and minute work in UI/Presentation, but I don;t own it. I just know something, for more, pl;ease gooogle more and more till you are satisfied. Then take the action. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] [OT]Wireless Router
On Tue, 2007-09-11 at 23:31 +0530, Vikas Rawal wrote: Eventually I convinced the person whose machine I was setting up to throw out Vista. Does that person is a old Linux user, familiar with Linux, or just you convinced him for Linux because you love Linux. Have you considered his works and software need feasibility before transfering him. many people are there who uses certain software (and to a good skill) on Windows, but either that alternative or full-featured alternative is not available for Linux. You must consider those facts. Also, he paid for the Vista along with his PC. The philosophy is not to force and convince people for using Linux/Ubuntu. If a user can afford hefty sum for the Operating System, he can use that. Linux and FOSS started for free availablity of OS and software, and share the knowledge. There is really no agenda of forcing or convincing people by this mean. Off the topic, at the end of the day, I was unable to install ubuntu on the machine either. So Ubuntu got a bad option in his view. Everyone knows Linux has many miles to go and we are advancing with better pace and successes. But again, not only the security and viruses are reasons which should be considered for migration. There are many others, which are more prominent that these options. It was a new AMD dual core HP laptop with broadcom wireless lan and nvidia graphics card. Ubuntu feisty fawn did not install either with the regular i386 CD or with the alternate CD. I had an edubuntu 6.06 CD at hand but that would not install either. My friend came with AMD Dual, but Acer. I can successfully boot, but in commandline, XServer diddnt started. Why? Many devices were unknown to Ubuntu, e.g AGP, Network Interface(LAN), Wireless, Disk and PCI Controller Hub and many others. I was not installing Ubuntu, but booted to see the device Tags, so I can tell him what and where to download Drivers for Windows XP. Anyway, my personal experience is, when a person is really interested in moving to Ubuntu, help him. Guide a person with the option Ubuntu if he is in trouble, but also present the downside whatever be that. Be true, don't rush to convert people to Linux. -- Ravi Shanker [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] [OT]Wireless Router
Hi Puneet, You have two options regarding partitioning - either go for a clean install by formatting the drive and dividing the whole into two partitions - One for Ubuntu and one for Windows Vista. Or a better option would be to resize the disk in Windows Vista as it includes its own partition-resizing utility and create enough space for Ubuntu to sit on. Regarding your query on Wireless routers, you should either go for NetGear which is a cheaper option which should be around 2k or go for a slightly higher one byD-Link. Regards Deepank On 09/09/2007, Puneet Lakhina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I recently bought a Dell Inspiron 1420 laptop. I have an existing Airtel DSL Connection at home.I want to share this internet connection with my laptop through a wireless router. My DSL modem is connected to my desktop via Ethernet. I have never bought a wireless router so dont know what to look for and what to watch out for. I would be really thankful if any of you could provide me with some helpful hints. Another question that I have is how do i go about installing Ubuntu on this laptop. Should i format the drive,install ubuntu and then install the Vista Home Preimium that comes along with it. The pre paritioned configuration has a recovery partition also.Whats that bit for, and does it need to be recreated for Vista to run?? -- Puneet ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ -- Eschew Obfuscation ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] [OT]Wireless Router
On 10/09/2007, Deepank Gupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Puneet, [SNIP] Hi, I recently bought a Dell Inspiron 1420 laptop. I have an existing Airtel DSL [END SNIP] Mail list manners out of the window? In line / bottom posts please. -- Regards, Sudev Barar See you at 'Freed.in - freedom in technology software' - India's leading free and open source community event. 28- 29 September 2007, New Delhi. Entry free, on first come basis. Register at http://Freed.in ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
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Mail list manners out of the window? In line / bottom posts please. I am really sorry. Will keep in mind in future. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] [OT]Wireless Router
On 09/09/2007, Puneet Lakhina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ethernet. I have never bought a wireless router so dont know what to look for and what to watch out for. Dlink is usually a safe bet. Another question that I have is how do i go about installing Ubuntu on this laptop. Should i format the drive,install ubuntu and then install the Vista Home Preimium that comes along with it. The pre paritioned configuration has a recovery partition also.Whats that bit for, and does it need to be recreated for Vista to run?? Re-size window$ partition bu utility under vista and then install Ubuntu. But better still dump vista. -- Regards, Sudev Barar See you at 'Freed.in - freedom in technology software' - India's leading free and open source community event. 28- 29 September 2007, New Delhi. Entry free, on first come basis. Register at http://Freed.in ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] [OT]Wireless Router
Another question that I have is how do i go about installing Ubuntu on this laptop. Should i format the drive,install ubuntu and then install the Vista Home Preimium that comes along with it. The pre paritioned configuration has a recovery partition also.Whats that bit for, and does it need to be recreated for Vista to run?? Re-size window$ partition bu utility under vista and then install Ubuntu. But better still dump vista. Dump vista. Vista's utility for resizing partitions is a pain. It generally allows very limited resizing, sometimes asking for a minimum of 80-90 gb for the C drive. Microsoft has given up fat32 partitioning and vista does not do a fat32 partition. Some of the common proprietary partitioning utilities like partition magic do not work on vista. There are others that do and perhaps work better than the vista's own utility. But they do not come free. And qtparted, as far as I have seen, does not resize vista paritions. In sum, throw out vista. Too bad you had to pay for it. Vikas ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
