Re: Wondering about issues with this particular iMac
On Sep 26, 2010, at 5:45 PM, Jack Suggs wrote: If there was a Like button for all the above, I'd click it. I have no idea what you're referring to, since you didn't quote anything above. Josh -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Wondering about issues with this particular iMac
On Sep 26, 2010, at 1:23 PM, Steven wrote: I only used the term imaginary as a sort of insult to digital files. Yes, they may technically exist, but only in the same way that a song on the radio exists, not in an immediately available physical form (I can't very well remove my hard disk and play it in a CD player). This is a red herring, unless you actually plan to spin records yourself and drop a pine needle + styrofoam cup into the groove. In real life, you're using an electronic playing machine, and if it breaks, then your music too is imaginary until you fix or replace it, so you're no better off than with CDs. On the contrary: CDs are smaller, hold more content at higher resolution, can automatically seek to track boundaries (or arbitrary locations), can pause reliably, may contain additional non-audio content, are more durable, and can be losslessly copied, either disc-to-disc or via rip and burn (if you avoid lossy compression like MP3, of course). There is a big difference between analog and digital technologies. Both vinyl records and compact disc do use plastic circles with information stored on the surface, but analog information doesn't need to be decoded like digital does. The very minimum you need to play back a CD is a CD player, with complex mechanics and computer chips, while you can play a record with nothing more than a paper cone and a spinning surface that can be moved by hand. Sure, it won't sound nearly as good as playing the record on a stereo, but you can still retrieve the data with almost no technology whatsoever. This is because the scratches on the disc are an imprint of the actual sound wave, and while they may be recorded and read electrically (or in the case of some releases since the 1970s, even mastered digitally), the only real process that goes into recording and playing most records is electrical amplification and manipulation. With a CD or any other digital recording, you only get complex instructions on how to reproduce the file. Perhaps the simplest way to examine the differences would be to compare the most primitive versions of analog and digital recordings, player piano rolls and wax cylinders. The wax cylinder can reproduce the sound of a full orchestra with nothing more than a motor, lathe, needle, and horn, while the piano roll needs an actual piano and is incapable of performing other voices or even simple stylistic accents like volume and intensity. Both technologies have come a very long way, but there still remains the fact that an analog recording contains an imprint of an actual sound wave while digital recordings are instructions that tell the computer how to go about reconstructing the sound. Audio CD contents are data, not instructions. The data are just as much a waveform as are the scratches on a vinyl record or wax cylinder. By the way, have you actually *heard* a wax cylinder? Listen to this 1910 recording of the Major General's song by C. H. Workman, or the 1888 recording of Sir Arthur Sullivan addressing Thomas Edison. The song is enjoyable despite the heavy scratching distortion, but perhaps more as a historical record than for its entertainment value -- in the same way that you might place an ancient pot on display in a museum for viewers to appreciate, though you're not going to cook in it. The speech however, is barely discernible and considerably less pleasant to listen to. Maybe encoding the sound wave directly onto a physical medium is not the best way to go. Or maybe it just deteriorates over time, which would be another great reason to avoid it. http://www.metamage.com/savoyard/ Now rather than actually trying to compose a shot and take one good picture, people have become accustomed to pointing the camera in the general direction and clicking the shutter as many times as it takes before they accidentally get a good picture. Computer-assisted photography is related to but distinct from the issue of analog vs. digital storage. Storage can be another problem, because while physical photos do take up room, digital pictures take up a lot of storage as well, and a shoebox is quite a bit cheaper than a new hard drive. One hard drive (which I needed anyway to use the computer at all) is enough to store every photo I've ever taken at a resolution appropriate to the camera I used. One hard drive is smaller than many shoeboxes. In the end, most people switch to digital and never look back or care about the problems, but I want a physical master and total control of the picture, so I'm sticking with film until no one makes it anymore. I'd rather have the ability to make lossless backups of my photos than be stuck with having to guard the unique master copy. Josh -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The
Re: Wondering about issues with this particular iMac
On Sep 26, 2010, at 2:23 PM, Tina K. wrote: The issue I have with digital files is that regardless of the media you store them on, be it a HDD or flash drive, both of which are subject to magnetic damage; or writable optical media, which seem to degrade simply by existing; they are subject to deterioration over time. A bit gets flipped here and there eventually resulting in discernible damage to the file. Enough bits get flipped and the file becomes useless. It's too bad MO (magneto-optical) drives didn't take off. Unfortunately, Zip and Jaz were more popular in the US. But regardless of medium, the solution is to keep multiple copies. In nine years of computing I've had several files, mostly text and image files, that have mysteriously become unreadable. Given time it's likely that I will encounter a video file that has become corrupt and is no longer usable. If I originally purchased the data on a pressed, not burned, optical disk I can make another copy. If I purchased the data as a download then I have to hope that the vendor will let me re-download it. However I don't trust the vendors to do what I consider to be the right thing and pass on a perceived opportunity to make additional profit. As well you shouldn't. I suggest avoiding all forms of DRM (that haven't been cracked) to whatever extent possible. That is why I prefer pressed CDs and DVDs. Yes they are subject to damage but they don't spontaneously degrade, at least they shouldn't in my lifetime. I originally avoided the iTunes store due to DRM. After that ceased to be an issue, I realized I'd rather pay extra for full CD quality. Sorry Steve (Jobs), I think you are wrong. For many, it will be good enough. Josh -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: ITunes 10
On Sep 27, 2010, at 7:02 AM, Dennis B. Swaney wrote: What everyone seems to be missing is the fact that the iTunes 10 UI VIOLATES Apple's own guidelines in that ALL applications have to present the same UI as the Mac OS. What you seem to be missing is that Apple has been doing this for decades, so it's hardly shocking news these days. Josh -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Wondering about issues with this particular iMac
I'd rather have the ability to make lossless backups of my photos They likely come out of the camera lossy (jpg). -- Malcolm 800MHz 17 flat panel iMac running Leopard (1GB RAM, 500GB HD) -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Wondering about issues with this particular iMac
Store them as PNG (.png). Lossless On 27/09/10 10:43 AM, Malcolm O'Brien wrote: I'd rather have the ability to make lossless backups of my photos They likely come out of the camera lossy (jpg). -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Wondering about issues with this particular iMac
On 2010/09/26 19:11, Matt Rhinesmith wrote: Flash drives aren't susceptible to magnetic damage... While that may be correct, they are subject to spontaneous catastrophic failure which in the end is even worse. Factory pressed optical disks don't spontaneously fail. Tina -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Wondering about issues with this particular iMac
Store them as PNG (.png). Lossless Your camera will do that? What's the brand? -- Malcolm 800MHz 17 flat panel iMac running Leopard (1GB RAM, 500GB HD) -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Wondering about issues with this particular iMac
On Sep 27, 2010, at 7:43 AM, Malcolm O'Brien wrote: I'd rather have the ability to make lossless backups of my photos They likely come out of the camera lossy (jpg). That only happens once. There's no *generational* loss as with analog copies. Josh -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: ITunes 10
On 2010/09/27 02:00, Joshua Juran wrote: I originally objected to the traffic light colors because the functions in question have nothing to do with traffic signals I can see a correlation. Green = Go (big, continue working in the window) Yellow = Pause (minimize, continue working in the window later) Red = Stop (close, no further work in that window) But then I have my own way of seeing things. Tina -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: ITunes 10
I agree with you assessment On 27/09/10 11:09 AM, Tina K. wrote: On 2010/09/27 02:00, Joshua Juran wrote: I originally objected to the traffic light colors because the functions in question have nothing to do with traffic signals I can see a correlation. Green = Go (big, continue working in the window) Yellow = Pause (minimize, continue working in the window later) Red = Stop (close, no further work in that window) But then I have my own way of seeing things. Tina -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Wondering about issues with this particular iMac
I don't have a digital camera... I meant once you download onto your computer, save them as png in Preview or Photoshop, or whatever. PNG retains pixel info, and have also replaced GIF format On 27/09/10 11:11 AM, Malcolm O'Brien wrote: Store them as PNG (.png). Lossless Your camera will do that? What's the brand? -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Wondering about issues with this particular iMac
I've always understood that jpegs continually lose pixels every time you save them. On 27/09/10 11:13 AM, Joshua Juran wrote: On Sep 27, 2010, at 7:43 AM, Malcolm O'Brien wrote: I'd rather have the ability to make lossless backups of my photos They likely come out of the camera lossy (jpg). That only happens once. There's no *generational* loss as with analog copies. Josh -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: ITunes 10
On Sep 27, 2010, at 8:09 AM, Tina K. wrote: On 2010/09/27 02:00, Joshua Juran wrote: I originally objected to the traffic light colors because the functions in question have nothing to do with traffic signals I can see a correlation. Green = Go (big, continue working in the window) Yellow = Pause (minimize, continue working in the window later) Red = Stop (close, no further work in that window) But then I have my own way of seeing things. If I was required to invent a rationalization I might use that one. But in actuality, red is a temporary condition until the light turns green, at which point you leave the signalled area and that traffic light is no longer part of your environment. With Apple's widgets, green just moves and resizes the window, whereas red removes it from your environment. Also, there's only two possible actions: stop and go. Yellow/amber is just a warning that red is approaching -- you're still going to stop or go, though now it's your call. Another point is that the title bar widgets are controls, whereas the traffic lights are signals. Controls are the (GUI) means by which you pass instructions to the computer; traffic signals give *you* instructions. I agree that the colors are aesthetically pleasing, but they don't function similarly to the traffic light on which they're presumably based. Josh -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: ITunes 10
Just call the 'traffic-lights' a kind of 'paraphrase' of the real deal. They are a brilliant adaptation, close enough. Simple, elegant. If MS came up with that they would make them octagons and about 4 times larger. On 27/09/10 11:46 AM, Joshua Juran wrote: On Sep 27, 2010, at 8:09 AM, Tina K. wrote: On 2010/09/27 02:00, Joshua Juran wrote: I originally objected to the traffic light colors because the functions in question have nothing to do with traffic signals I can see a correlation. Green = Go (big, continue working in the window) Yellow = Pause (minimize, continue working in the window later) Red = Stop (close, no further work in that window) But then I have my own way of seeing things. If I was required to invent a rationalization I might use that one. But in actuality, red is a temporary condition until the light turns green, at which point you leave the signalled area and that traffic light is no longer part of your environment. With Apple's widgets, green just moves and resizes the window, whereas red removes it from your environment. Also, there's only two possible actions: stop and go. Yellow/amber is just a warning that red is approaching -- you're still going to stop or go, though now it's your call. Another point is that the title bar widgets are controls, whereas the traffic lights are signals. Controls are the (GUI) means by which you pass instructions to the computer; traffic signals give *you* instructions. I agree that the colors are aesthetically pleasing, but they don't function similarly to the traffic light on which they're presumably based. Josh -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: ITunes 10
On 27/09/10 09:40PDT, Bill Chapman wrote: Just call the 'traffic-lights' a kind of 'paraphrase' of the real deal. They are a brilliant adaptation, close enough. Simple, elegant. If MS came up with that they would make them octagons and about 4 times larger. They did, but they used squares. Oh, and technically, only the red one should be an octagon. ;) -- Sincerely, Dennis B. Swaney Windows is a command-line OS with a GUI shell while Mac System 10 is ... oh, never mind. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: ITunes 10
Do you mean Win7. I've not seen it... I do have WinXP SP2 sandboxed on 2 Macs (via Virtual PC 7). Instead of those ugly squares with totally unappealing icons, I might have at least suggested the red, yellow green from their logo, keeping the flag shapes. On 27/09/10 12:58 PM, Dennis B. Swaney wrote: On 27/09/10 09:40PDT, Bill Chapman wrote: Just call the 'traffic-lights' a kind of 'paraphrase' of the real deal. They are a brilliant adaptation, close enough. Simple, elegant. If MS came up with that they would make them octagons and about 4 times larger. They did, but they used squares. Oh, and technically, only the red one should be an octagon. ;) -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: ITunes 10
On 27/09/10 10:09PDT, Bill Chapman wrote: Do you mean Win7. I've not seen it... I do have WinXP SP2 sandboxed on 2 Macs (via Virtual PC 7). Instead of those ugly squares with totally unappealing icons, I might have at least suggested the red, yellow green from their logo, keeping the flag shapes. Yes. Either in Win2K or WinXP the minimize/maximize/close icons gained color (they used to be a uniform gray) with the close icon being reddish orange. I can't remember what the other colors were as it has been 2.5 years since I've had to use Windoze. -- Sincerely, Dennis B. Swaney Windows is a command-line OS with a GUI shell while Mac System 10 is ... oh, never mind. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: ITunes 10
I only need WinXP to check my site designs in IE6/7... I do that locally... I don't venture online with XP. There's no point. On 27/09/10 2:11 PM, Dennis B. Swaney wrote: On 27/09/10 10:09PDT, Bill Chapman wrote: Do you mean Win7. I've not seen it... I do have WinXP SP2 sandboxed on 2 Macs (via Virtual PC 7). Instead of those ugly squares with totally unappealing icons, I might have at least suggested the red, yellow green from their logo, keeping the flag shapes. Yes. Either in Win2K or WinXP the minimize/maximize/close icons gained color (they used to be a uniform gray) with the close icon being reddish orange. I can't remember what the other colors were as it has been 2.5 years since I've had to use Windoze. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Leopard?
Sorry for replying so late, but I just realized that your description sounds a lot like a Photoshop drawing I did of Mac OS 9.6. Lots of shiny blacks and glowing blues. http://www.flickr.com/photos/obi1kenobi1/3017206820/sizes/o/ After looking at it again, mine probably wouldn't work so well as an interface, since the letters in the menu and title bars are too hard to read. You have some interesting ideas, I think I may have even seen something similar for ShapeShifter, but that was so long ago I can't remember the details. Steven On Sep 23, 2010, at 2:58 PM, Midnight rider wrote: The Apple GUI never fails to surprise me with it's eye candy since the days of Panther, and every new GUI is like a present from Apple to us to see and work with the OS in a new way. I like all of the Apple themes so far, and i think i will like the newer ones when they come out. If i were to have a favorite Apple theme, it would be this: Mac OS X Leopard windows that turn transparent like the Jaguar windows only without the lines when inactive or deselected. The Mac OS X leopard menu bar, only with the Mac OS X cheetah dark blue apple logo and when i click on it or go over it with my mouse, it will shine, and the selected blue box around it will be blue and glossy like the early beta builds of Mac OS X tiger. When the menu bar has any button selected like File for example, it will have the blue glossy button like the one on OS X tiger beta builds. And, on the dock, whenever i roll over it, the area around it glows blue with an optional apple logo shaped reflection on the dock. and, i'd like the same dock design as leopard, but only make the icons and not the desktop reflected against the dock, and make the dock glow blue. Dashboard should shatter through the desktop, and have a completely individual desktop on it's own, and when it reverts back to the desktop, the pieces of the desktop are put back together. when the system starts up, instead of the regular Apple logo, it should be a black background with the dark blue shiny apple logo like the one in the Mac OS X cheetah menu bar, and the outline of the apple logo should have a line running on it glowing blue, until the system is done loading and the entire apple logo glows blue. then, every time you login, it says welcome in some video in the same exact way that it was in the Mac OS X panther beta builds where a school of fish/dots in a giant circle turned into the word welcome, and then it zooms in past the letters kinda like in the Mac OS X leopard intro, and shows the desktop. That is my favorite theme. hopefully it's real or Mac OS X 10.7 has it. Sorry if this is too descriptive, this is my vision of what OS X should look like. blue glowing effects is a must. a good example of that are the buttons in front row. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: ITunes 10
On 10-09-27 9:46 AM, Joshua Juran wrote: I agree that the colors are aesthetically pleasing, but they don't function similarly to the traffic light on which they're presumably based. I am somewhat lost in this thread because my children have always referred to the Apple traffic lights. Kids say the darn dist things as someone once said. What should we call them ? -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: ITunes 10
On 27/09/10 12:16PDT, Walter Sheluk wrote: I am somewhat lost in this thread because my children have always referred to the Apple traffic lights. Kids say the darn dist things as someone once said. What should we call them ? Technically from left to right they are called: Close button Minimize button Zoom button so maybe the CMZ buttons? Oh, and if you go System PreferencesAppearance and change the Appearance from Blue to Graphite, all three buttons are gray. -- Sincerely, Dennis B. Swaney Windows is a command-line OS with a GUI shell while Mac System 10 is ... oh, never mind. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: ITunes 10
I didn't mean that it did, only that I have seen XP and not Win 7 On 27/09/10 2:50 PM, Dennis B. Swaney wrote: On 27/09/10 11:15PDT, Bill Chapman wrote: I only need WinXP to check my site designs in IE6/7... I do that locally... I don't venture online with XP. There's no point. The minimize/maximize/close icons are at the top right of an open window in Windows. It has absolutely nothing to do with going online. See: http://tinyurl.com/36a5jqs That link also answers the question on the minimize maximize icon's color. In Vista it looks like the square buttons became more rectangular. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: ITunes 10
Call them Apple's version of traffic lights... moving through windows is 'traffic'... right? Kids get the idea... adults want to nit-pick ; ) On 27/09/10 3:16 PM, Walter Sheluk wrote: On 10-09-27 9:46 AM, Joshua Juran wrote: I agree that the colors are aesthetically pleasing, but they don't function similarly to the traffic light on which they're presumably based. I am somewhat lost in this thread because my children have always referred to the Apple traffic lights. Kids say the darn dist things as someone once said. What should we call them ? -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
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This is of course down to personal choice, but I have nothing to go on here. Your opinions are welcome. I am a member of the official apple community forums, which is good in it's own regimented way and here or course. But I am looking for an independent community forum that covers all things apple and mainly current apple technology free from the controlling nature of apple themselves. Which do you use and why? www.mac-forums.com/ forums.macrumors.com www.macusersforum.com etc thanks Guys Jay -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Best independent Apple forum
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 1:10 PM, Jonathan jonathan.newcas...@googlemail.com wrote: This is of course down to personal choice, but I have nothing to go on here. Your opinions are welcome. I am a member of the official apple community forums, which is good in it's own regimented way and here or course. But I am looking for an independent community forum that covers all things apple and mainly current apple technology free from the controlling nature of apple themselves. Which do you use and why? ___ None of those listed. Do you really need to go beyond LEM forums? Well I can see some here are very opinionated vis-a-vis pre and post Intel, and date of LEM inception. Ergo pre Intel users loathe Windows and those who see Macs as primarily Windows machines. Some bias may be found in LEM listers about the need for change or the holiness of Apple as far a brand or decision making as a corporation/ business, or as a user motivated concern. But if you need to find one that matches your outlook and preconceptions I think you are best on your own. No one other than yourself can tell you what fits you. -- Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer fluxstrin...@gmail.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/fluxstreamcommunication/ http://www.youtube.com/fluxstringer http://www.facebook.com/FluxStringer http://www.linkedin.com/in/fluxstreamcommunications http://flux-influx.blogspot.com/ http://remnantsofthestorm.blogspot.com http://fluxdreams.designbinder.com/ -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Best independent Apple forum
On 10-09-27 7:10 AM, Jonathan wrote: Which do you use http://68kmla.net/forums http://forums.macworld.com/ http://www.maclife.com/forums/ -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Best independent Apple forum
On 2010/09/27 07:10, Jonathan wrote: But I am looking for an independent community forum that covers all things apple and mainly current apple technology free from the controlling nature of apple themselves. There is a lot of good people and good information at the MacNN forums: http://forums.macnn.com/ And for sheer number of posts (I don't know anything about the people there), try MacRumors Forums: http://forums.macrumors.com/ Tina -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Wondering about issues with this particular iMac
Any *real* camera will save images as RAW... :) No loss of anything there. If you save JPG's with no compression, you don't loose virtually no pixel data. My camera saves uncompressed JPG's, and when I save them from Photoshop, I save them at maximum quality, which is basically uncompressed. -Elliott I've always understood that jpegs continually lose pixels every time you save them. I'd rather have the ability to make lossless backups of my photos They likely come out of the camera lossy (jpg). That only happens once. There's no *generational* loss as with analog copies. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
