Re: emac 700Mhz Opinium

2011-11-11 Thread MACMAN
Its not worth spending over 200 dollars upgrading the emac 700Mhz CD
Rom Model.

Its Probably worth getting a Power mac Dual G4 or G5 single or G5 dual
or quad as a Replacement.

Upgrading to power mac G4 dual or any G5 is going to work out cheaper
and faster.

The G5's have faster videos cards more expansion.

The emac on the other hand is clutter free.

The emac 700Mhz model dual boots mac os 9.2.2 and mac os x.

Thats somthing you can't do on the G5's.

The 2002 Powermac G4's are the fastest dual boot macs. boots mac os 9
and os x.
same age as the emac 700Mhz model but faster.


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Re: emac 700Mhz Opinium

2011-11-10 Thread Bruce Johnson

On Nov 9, 2011, at 11:41 PM, Charles Lenington wrote:

 
 Have you tried turning on receipt required in your email program?
 
 ie: (firefox)  Prefs/advaned/return receipts/
 check: when sending messages always request a return receipt


That only works if the recipient's mail system supports it. Fax systems have 
that built in as a part of the standard.
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Re: emac 700Mhz Opinium

2011-11-10 Thread MACMAN
Jack what does emac 700Mhz feels like with 1gb of ram running 10.4.

My emac 700 with 256mb of ram runs much slower.

I use mac os x 10.4.11 tiger.

This emac struggles with several editing apps like imovie 06 and
garageband 06.





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Re: emac 700Mhz Opinium

2011-11-10 Thread MACMAN
The emac i use doesn't have built in modem.

This emac 700 cdrom was sold to education market only.

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Re: emac 700Mhz Opinium

2011-11-10 Thread Ashgrove
On Nov 8, 2:10 pm, Tina K. penguir...@gmail.com wrote:
 For some people, rural areas mostly, dialup is the only hardwired
 connection available to them. There is satellite but you have to have
 visibility of the satellite, it's expensive, and can be unreliable for
 a number of reasons. You might say it is quirky.

And then there is the plain weird.

I live in an area where there are several sources of cable Internet;
in fact, in my own building, the businesses downstairs have cable
Internet.

However, when I tried to order it, ALL cable companies told me that
there was no residential cable Internet service in this part of town,
so I'm stuck with DSL. Well, at least it's not dial-up... :-/

Felix

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Re: emac 700Mhz Opinium

2011-11-10 Thread JOHN CARMONNE


On Nov 10, 2011, at 6:48 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote:



On Nov 9, 2011, at 11:41 PM, Charles Lenington wrote:



Have you tried turning on receipt required in your email program?

ie: (firefox)  Prefs/advaned/return receipts/
check: when sending messages always request a return receipt



That only works if the recipient's mail system supports it. Fax  
systems have that built in as a part of the standard.

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Another problem with the email is a lot of company's  email is  
someone's personal address and the mail may wind up in SPAM and never  
even read so I email invoices to offices that request that method all  
others go via FAX and a couple of companies still want snail mail.


John Carmonne
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Re: emac 700Mhz Opinium

2011-11-10 Thread Mark Sokolovsky
All my my G4 machines are running leopard regardless of their speed. I just
throw in the max ram, and it works fine for most basic things.

On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 12:34 PM, Jack Suggs jhs...@gmail.com wrote:

 I gave my grandson an eMac 700mhz with 1 gb RAM running 10.4.11 when
 he was 10, now he's 12 and the eMac still runs great, never had a
 problem. He uses it online (mostly Facebook), with GarageBand (iLife
 2005 version), and with his iPod Shuffle.



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Re: emac 700Mhz Opinium

2011-11-10 Thread Christopher Satterfield
1 gig of ram on an 800 MHz G4 was usable but not the greatest. However, it
will be a huge improvement over 256 megs, you will not regret upgraded.
However, I was spoiled by a Dual 2 GHz G5 with 6 gigs of ram at the same
time, which a single G5 is better than any G4.

I installed Leopard on an 800 MHz eMac with 1 gig of ram so that's how I
know. I got Leopard on it by using my 1 GHz emac, connecting the 800 one
using Firewire Target Mode and installing as if the 800 was a firewire
drive, worked great.


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Re: emac 700Mhz Opinium

2011-11-10 Thread Bruce Johnson

On Nov 9, 2011, at 4:55 PM, MACMAN wrote:

 Jack what does emac 700Mhz feels like with 1gb of ram running 10.4.
 
 My emac 700 with 256mb of ram runs much slower.
 
 I use mac os x 10.4.11 tiger.
 
 This emac struggles with several editing apps like imovie 06 and
 garageband 06.

You will see a dramatic increase in performance moving up to 512 megs, about 
half again as much moving to 1 gig. Your system is severely constrained by your 
lack of RAM, so you're swapping to disk incessantly, which is slow, especially 
if that's an older slower drive that's mostly full. ONce you've gotten rid of 
the RAM bottleneck, then your CPU will start to be the bottleneck.

RAM is cheap. There's little reason to not upgrade your emac to the max it can 
hold.

It costs $42 here:

http://www.datamemorysystems.com/_apple_info/Apple_G4_eMac_700MHz_Memory_1289.asp

No doubt the original 40gb HDD is also a 4200 or 5400 rpm drive.

Replacing that with a larger, faster 7200 rpm, drive will also give you a 
noticeable speed increase, on top of what you get from adding RAM.

That's another $45: 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148797

So for less than a hundred bucks, you can max out that eMac, and make so it's 
usable for garage band and imovie.

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Re: emac 700Mhz Opinium

2011-11-10 Thread Jack Suggs
When I bought the eMac it had 256mb, and wouldn't run GarageBand very
well, which is what my grandson wanted. After upping the RAM to 1gb,
it runs pretty smooth. I can't answer about iMovie, we haven't tried
it. (FYI, I have some apps that were released during System 7 that
work in Classic mode under 10.4.11).

On 11/9/11, MACMAN joshantiq...@gmail.com wrote:
 Jack what does emac 700Mhz feels like with 1gb of ram running 10.4.
 My emac 700 with 256mb of ram runs much slower.
 I use mac os x 10.4.11 tiger.
 This emac struggles with several editing apps like imovie 06 and
 garageband 06.





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Re: emac 700Mhz Opinium

2011-11-10 Thread Bruce Johnson

On Nov 10, 2011, at 9:55 AM, Jack Suggs wrote:

 (FYI, I have some apps that were released during System 7 that
 work in Classic mode under 10.4.11).

This is a screen shot of the classic OS 6 game Shufflepuck, running under OS X

http://dbdev2.pharmacy.arizona.edu/miscjunk/howcompatible.jpg

(it was renamed by a friends kid ages ago, from the day when I was running it 
on my Mac plus...)

Pretty freakin' amazing.

(and it would run today, on my quad core i7 iMac, under SheepShaverif I 
retrieved it off my old backups.) 

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Re: emac 700Mhz Opinium

2011-11-09 Thread MACMAN
My emac 700Mhz works ok for tiger for web browsing and watching videos
and playing old games.

I know 256 meg of ram is extremely minimum for tiger especially if you
want to do editing.

Ilife 06, Imovie, garageband runs very sluggish on a emac 700Mhz  with
256 meg of ram.

Running Ilife 06, imovie 06, garage band, iphoto, safari, itunes, at
the same time,  this mac slows down allot.

I usually run 1 or 2 apps at a time no more than 3 or 4 or especially
heavy apps.

im not interested going back to pre mac os x 10.4 tiger.

I tried mac os x 10.3 panther it ran much slower than 10.4 tiger.

Do you Know any one who owns an emac 700 with 1gig of ram?

Joshua Lewis

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Re: emac 700Mhz Opinium

2011-11-09 Thread John Carmonne


On Nov 8, 2011, at 6:48 AM, Mark Sokolovsky wrote:


I actually forgot about this.

On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Bruce Johnson  
john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote:


On Nov 6, 2011, at 8:31 PM, Mark Sokolovsky wrote:

I am rather to question as to why modems were placed on any  
machines after 2003 at all. It's not like we are still dealing  
with dial-up anymore, are we?


Aside from all the folks without access to broadband, there's this  
quaint form of paper/electronic hybrid communications called  
'faxes' :-)



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The FAX is usually a more accurate method for my invoicing because  
everyone in the worldwide industry I belong to has to have FAX  
capabilities. Some use a paperless computer system but most still  
have the original machines plus most of the time a paper FAX is read  
as it falls on the floor. It's an annoying sheet starring at the  
payable officer on the desk where as an email is easily and  
conveniently set aside with all the usual excuses like the computer  
system was down on the day we cut checks)  :-) I have a record that  
the FAX was received but no way of knowing the the email got there.



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92886 USA
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Re: emac 700Mhz Opinium

2011-11-09 Thread John Carmonne


On Nov 8, 2011, at 1:11 PM, Dennis Faulkner wrote:

I only upgraded to Cox high-speed when Cox played dirty pool,  
raised my second phone line to $10 per month, and claimed they  
couldn't fix that line - to me, my dial-up had a pretty fast  
phone line, and the economy of dial-up through fastermac.net made  
it worth it - I have not been overly impressed with Cox high-speed  
- most of the time not a big difference in speed on the sites I visit.


Dennis





If you have cable availible it will run circles around any phone  
system In my expierence a DSL modem gets real slow the more computers  
that sign on. I'm spoiled with Time Warner  Talladega Fast Turbo on  
a Netgear N speed router.


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92886 USA
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Re: emac 700Mhz Opinium

2011-11-09 Thread John Carmonne


On Nov 8, 2011, at 5:22 PM, Clark Martin wrote:



On Nov 8, 2011, at 5:14 AM, JohnCarmonne wrote:



On Nov 6, 2011, at 7:31 PM, Mark Sokolovsky wrote:

I am rather to question as to why modems were placed on any  
machines after 2003 at all. It's not like we are still dealing  
with dial-up anymore, are we?





I FAX 80% of my invoices to my customers so I need a modem on my  
machines the Apple USB with FaxPro is my solution.



In addition to everyone having a laptop we have a joint, family  
computer in the kitchen, a G5.  One of it's uses is for sending  
faxes as it has both a built in modem and an HP scanner / printer /  
copier attached.  Whenever we upgrade it to an intel I'll have to  
figure another solution.  Or stop faxing.


Clark Martin
Redwood City, CA, USA
Macintosh / Internet Consulting


I use the Apple USB modem on all my Intel machines it FAX's just the  
same as the PPC's


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Re: emac 700Mhz Opinium

2011-11-09 Thread ALLNIGHTVI
I'm sorry, but I'm afraid that I am.  Modems are also great back up if  you 
lose your DSL/Cable/Satellite.  There are some very, very good modems  
still being made.  Just my two cents.  Peace, Virgil Fritz.  
_AllnightVi@aol.com_ (mailto:allnigh...@aol.com)   
 
 
In a message dated 11/8/2011 8:22:14 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
cm...@sonic.net writes:


On  Nov 8, 2011, at 5:14 AM, JohnCarmonne wrote:

 
 On Nov 6,  2011, at 7:31 PM, Mark Sokolovsky wrote:
 
 I am rather to  question as to why modems were placed on any machines 
after 2003 at all. It's  not like we are still dealing with dial-up anymore, 
are we?
  
 
 
 I FAX 80% of my invoices to my customers so I need  a modem on my 
machines the Apple USB with FaxPro is my solution.


In  addition to everyone having a laptop we have a joint, family computer 
in the  kitchen, a G5.  One of it's uses is for sending faxes as it has both 
a  built in modem and an HP scanner / printer / copier attached.  Whenever  
we upgrade it to an intel I'll have to figure another solution.  Or stop  
faxing.

Clark Martin
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Macintosh / Internet  Consulting

I'm a designated driver on the Information Super  Highway

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Re: emac 700Mhz Opinium

2011-11-09 Thread Jack Suggs
I gave my grandson an eMac 700mhz with 1 gb RAM running 10.4.11 when
he was 10, now he's 12 and the eMac still runs great, never had a
problem. He uses it online (mostly Facebook), with GarageBand (iLife
2005 version), and with his iPod Shuffle.

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Re: emac 700Mhz Opinium

2011-11-09 Thread Charles Lenington

On 11/8/11 6:02 PM, John Carmonne wrote:


On Nov 8, 2011, at 6:48 AM, Mark Sokolovsky wrote:


I actually forgot about this.

On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Bruce Johnson
john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote:

On Nov 6, 2011, at 8:31 PM, Mark Sokolovsky wrote:


I am rather to question as to why modems were placed on any machines
after 2003 at all. It's not like we are still dealing with dial-up
anymore, are we?


Aside from all the folks without access to broadband, there's this
quaint form of paper/electronic hybrid communications called 'faxes' :-)


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The FAX is usually a more accurate method for my invoicing because
everyone in the worldwide industry I belong to has to have FAX
capabilities. Some use a paperless computer system but most still have
the original machines plus most of the time a paper FAX is read as it
falls on the floor. It's an annoying sheet starring at the payable
officer on the desk where as an email is easily and conveniently set
aside with all the usual excuses like the computer system was down on
the day we cut checks) :-) I have a record that the FAX was received but
no way of knowing the the email got there.


JOHN CARMONNE
Yorba Linda CA
92886 USA
 From TiBook 867





Have you tried turning on receipt required in your email program?

ie: (firefox)  Prefs/advaned/return receipts/
check: when sending messages always request a return receipt

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Re: emac 700Mhz Opinium

2011-11-08 Thread Mark Sokolovsky
Bump the RAM to 1GB and it will be a smooth ride.

On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 10:58 AM, MACMAN joshantiq...@gmail.com wrote:

 I Just want to get peoples opinium on the emac 700Mhz

 The emac i use

 specs

  powerpc G4 700mhz
 256 megs of sdram
 40 gig hard drive
 CD rom only,
 no modem

 OS, mac os x 10.4.11 and mac os 9.2.2




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Re: emac 700Mhz Opinium

2011-11-08 Thread Mark Sokolovsky
I am rather to question as to why modems were placed on any machines after
2003 at all. It's not like we are still dealing with dial-up anymore, are
we?

On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 10:18 PM, Christopher Satterfield 
christopher1...@gmail.com wrote:

 The ram is really low, especially for Tiger. The hard drive is fine for
 simple web browsing. The CD-ROM is a big setback since most programs and
 such now come on DVDs and the modem isn't needed at all.

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Re: emac 700Mhz Opinium

2011-11-08 Thread Beverly Woods

On 11/6/11 10:31 PM, Mark Sokolovsky wrote:

I am rather to question as to why modems were placed on any machines
after 2003 at all. It's not like we are still dealing with dial-up
anymore, are we?

Mark, you may not be in dialup land yourself, but going into 2012, there 
are still plenty of places in my area where that is all that is available.


Beverly

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Re: emac 700Mhz Opinium

2011-11-08 Thread Bruce Johnson

On Nov 6, 2011, at 8:31 PM, Mark Sokolovsky wrote:

 I am rather to question as to why modems were placed on any machines after 
 2003 at all. It's not like we are still dealing with dial-up anymore, are we?

Aside from all the folks without access to broadband, there's this quaint form 
of paper/electronic hybrid communications called 'faxes' :-)


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Re: emac 700Mhz Opinium

2011-11-08 Thread Tina K.

On 2011/11/06 20:31, Mark Sokolovsky so eloquently wrote:

I am rather to question as to why modems were placed on any machines
after 2003 at all. It's not like we are still dealing with dial-up
anymore, are we?


For some people, rural areas mostly, dialup is the only hardwired 
connection available to them. There is satellite but you have to have 
visibility of the satellite, it's expensive, and can be unreliable for 
a number of reasons. You might say it is quirky.


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Re: emac 700Mhz Opinium

2011-11-08 Thread Jim Scott
As a retired editor who never got less than an A in spelling in school, I'd 
just like to state that Opinium is not the way the word opinion is spelled. 
That's just in case someone, somewhere gets the mistaken impression that 
Opinium is correct because it's in print (so to speak) and thus far has been 
unchallenged in this thread.

My opinion is that an eMac with 700 MHz and 1 GB of RAM running OS 10.4.11 with 
all updates is about as slow as I would choose to go with a Mac on the internet.

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Re: emac 700Mhz Opinium

2011-11-08 Thread Jim Scott

On Nov 8, 2011, at 12:11 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:

 
 On Nov 8, 2011, at 12:29 PM, Jim Scott wrote:
 
 As a retired editor who never got less than an A in spelling in school, I'd 
 just like to state that Opinium is not the way the word opinion is 
 spelled. That's just in case someone, somewhere gets the mistaken impression 
 that Opinium is correct because it's in print (so to speak) and thus far 
 has been unchallenged in this thread.
 
 Perhaps he's merely searching for the soothing narcotic effect of getting 
 other's opinions on the matter :-P
 

Ah so. Sort of like the difference between plain ole aluminum and high-falutin' 
aluminium? :^)

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Re: emac 700Mhz Opinium

2011-11-08 Thread Dennis Faulkner

I only upgraded to Cox high-speed when Cox played dirty pool, raised my second phone 
line to $10 per month, and claimed they couldn't fix that line - to me, my dial-up had 
a pretty fast phone line, and the economy of dial-up through fastermac.net made it worth it - I 
have not been overly impressed with Cox high-speed - most of the time not a big difference in speed 
on the sites I visit.

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Re: emac 700Mhz Opinium

2011-11-08 Thread Clark Martin

On Nov 8, 2011, at 5:14 AM, JohnCarmonne wrote:

 
 On Nov 6, 2011, at 7:31 PM, Mark Sokolovsky wrote:
 
 I am rather to question as to why modems were placed on any machines after 
 2003 at all. It's not like we are still dealing with dial-up anymore, are we?
 
 
 
 I FAX 80% of my invoices to my customers so I need a modem on my machines the 
 Apple USB with FaxPro is my solution.


In addition to everyone having a laptop we have a joint, family computer in the 
kitchen, a G5.  One of it's uses is for sending faxes as it has both a built in 
modem and an HP scanner / printer / copier attached.  Whenever we upgrade it to 
an intel I'll have to figure another solution.  Or stop faxing.

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Re: emac 700Mhz Opinium

2011-11-08 Thread Charles Lenington

On 11/8/11 7:22 PM, Clark Martin wrote:


On Nov 8, 2011, at 5:14 AM, JohnCarmonne wrote:



On Nov 6, 2011, at 7:31 PM, Mark Sokolovsky wrote:


I am rather to question as to why modems were placed on any machines after 2003 
at all. It's not like we are still dealing with dial-up anymore, are we?




I FAX 80% of my invoices to my customers so I need a modem on my machines the 
Apple USB with FaxPro is my solution.



In addition to everyone having a laptop we have a joint, family computer in the 
kitchen, a G5.  One of it's uses is for sending faxes as it has both a built in 
modem and an HP scanner / printer / copier attached.  Whenever we upgrade it to 
an intel I'll have to figure another solution.  Or stop faxing.


I thought all the aio's had fax capability.

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Re: emac 700Mhz Opinium

2011-11-06 Thread Christopher Satterfield
The ram is really low, especially for Tiger. The hard drive is fine for
simple web browsing. The CD-ROM is a big setback since most programs and
such now come on DVDs and the modem isn't needed at all.

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