Re: [Inkscape-docs] extension testers needed
On Sun, 2018-06-17 at 19:23 -0600, brynn wrote: > Yes, it could be something like check boxes for the systems and > versions. Hello, Victor, Maren and Brynn, could you test the function I've just added to the upload form. It adds a drop down of selectable tags which only appear when you select a category that this group of tags is associated with. It uses the same selection as the gallery/category pages do (so for extensions we have a ready made list of options) https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/upload/ It may need some tweaks, but I wanted to get the format in front of you sooner so you can try it out. Best Regards, Martin Owens Websites ᴙ Us -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] moderation - auto-draw
Personally, If you've messaged the poster about the original link, then you can go ahead and delete this re-posting. It's not really related to Inkscape as far as I can see and so long as the user is aware that if they keep posting these images without an explanation, or description, or preview image or anything that would make the resource useful or appropriate. Then their user account is going t get moderated. I don't know if we have a bit in the CoC about re-posting entries that are under moderation. Best Regards, Martin Owens On Sun, 2018-05-06 at 03:19 -0600, brynn wrote: > Hi Friends, > I've flagged and hidden a linked webpage for a web app called > Auto-Draw. > The member (who although flagged, hasn't been deleted yet) has re- > posted it. > (The re-upload: > https://inkscape.org/en/~lorena.losterzo/%E2%98%85lorena-lo-sterzo+0) > Is that > somehow related to Inkscape, or does it actually use Inkscape? > > I've tried researching it, but all I can tell is that it's > related to > Experiments with Google and Google Creative Labs. I don't see a > connection to > Inkscape, but if there is one, will someone please let me know? > > (Normally I would just wait for another moderator on the > moderation > page. But since he's re-posted it, I wanted to find out sooner.) (or > might be > "she") > > Thanks, > brynn > > > --- > --- > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > ___ > Inkscape-docs mailing list > Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] odd display on moderation page
Hi Brynn, Looks like they're trying to test the system. There's no bug our side (nothing to fix as such) just to delete the image. I noticed I'm being blocked from moderating images, that probably is a bug. I get an error 403 (permission denied) from the flagging view. Best Regards, Martin Owen On Sat, 2018-04-28 at 09:19 -0600, brynn wrote: > Hi Friends, > I just wanted to mention a flagged resource on the moderation > page, > where the code for the raster image is pasted into the description > (data:image/jpeg;base64,/..). It's creating an unexpected > display. Just in > case it might not be already known. > > See "Black Womann Silhouette With Shade" by member ttdavis3 > > All best, > brynn > > PS - Do you need a new Issue on gitlab? > -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] red dashed rectangle missing (moderation)
On Fri, 2018-03-16 at 06:23 -0600, brynn wrote: > Hi Martin, > I'm no longer seeing the red dashed rectangle around hidden > images > anymore. Now the images are just missing entirely. Has something > been changed? Yes, moderated images have been removed. Because I couldn't remove them from the search index and keep them for moderators at the same time. Martin, -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] moderation question - formats which aren't displayed
Hi Brynn, A file which isn't either a) a standard format for the web, print or linux or b) isn't a format Inkscape can use OR c) could be converted to a more useful format for the given task Should be removed / moderated after giving the user the chance to amend the entry. There isn't an exhaustive list of formats we would accept, but project files for other programs is pretty high up on the list of no. Best Regards, Martin Owens On Fri, 2018-03-16 at 06:03 -0600, brynn wrote: > Hi Moderators, > I was just pondering the recent upload of a file with the > format > .studio3. > (https://inkscape.org/en/~Tanzbella/%E2%98%85nahliebe-chrissibag-embl > em-1mal) > I'm not familiar with that format, and suspect it might be the native > format for > some particular graphics program. > > My question is what should we do with images with formats > which the > website does not recognize or display? Should we take the time to > contact the > member, and ask them to submit a different format? Or should we just > delete > them (not removing member in this case)? > > To me, it doesn't make sense to waste our space on something > which no > one can see (unless they download it, and have a program which will > open it). > > To me, TIFF is a different story, as it's my understanding we > hope to be > able to display them someday. But for anything else which is fairly > obscure, > how should we handle it? > > Thanks for comments :-) > brynn > -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] welcome new moderator, and discuss PDFs
On Sat, 2018-03-10 at 19:04 -0700, brynn wrote: > > Any reason not to use that? I can't say, as a Linux user for a very long time, this is outside my expertise. 😃 Martin, -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] welcome new moderator, and discuss PDFs
Hi Brynn, > But I guess it's something like scanning the file before it actually > uploads? This isn't at issue at the moment, but we should be aware of it for the future. > I suppose it might be more convenient to copy the PDF and take to a > free online scanner (rather than moderators downloading them). More load on the server wouldn't be good. But I am thinking of ways to protect the user, if pdfs are this small in number then we could check them all manually. > I mean, for that matter, I think the same thing is true for SVGs, > isn't it? > They can contain scripts which could potentially be malicious, > right? I wonder > if there is some server side scanner which could automatically check > all > uploads? No, we don't host svg images to users like that. There's a flag that allows us to embed them IF we trust the contents. But it's only used by the admins for certain svg files that's we've checked out first. Browsers will naturally protect users from non-embeded svg files and should be protecting users from pdf files too. Unless we know we're getting viruses because we're checking files manually, I say we wait until we have a problem. We can always pause the quota to pause uploads while we get a solution put together when that day comes. Best Regards, Martin Owens -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] welcome new moderator, and discuss PDFs
It's possible to convert a pdf to an image on the webserver to aid with the problem. Wouldn't be a completely proof solution, but would help. If this seems like it would be urgently need, I can spend some time on it. Best Regards, Martin Owens On Wed, 2018-03-07 at 18:30 -0700, brynn wrote: > Hi Fellow Moderators! > Welcome to our newest moderator, Abdur-Rahmaan > Janhangeer. Now with 6 > moderators, 3 of which are able visit on almost daily basis, I'm > starting to > feel like the system is really able to meet its potential. > > (Fyi Everyone, JAKE is now Panda.) > > I'd also like to discuss a moderation issue regarding > PDFs. There was a > recent image, I think it was the map of Europe, uploaded as a > PDF. One comment > which was posted, along with a vote to delete, was "pdf can contain > viruses or > get your ip on opening". > > While I understand that potentially can happen, PDF is an > acceptable > format for uploaded resources (whether image or text) in the > gallery. So we > can't delete them only because they are PDFs. > > However, since their contents are not displayed, we must open > them, to > find out if they meet the CoC guidlines. What would be the best way > to get a > look at the contents, without risking our personal privacy and/or > security? > > I'm thinking we should download and run our local security > scans, before > opening. (Or I suppose there are some free online scanners. Don't > have any > links right offhand though.) Does anyone know of a better, > possibly less time > consuming (and memory eating) way to get a safe look at the contents? > > All best, > brynn > -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] gallery moderation - where is this image?
On Sat, 2018-02-10 at 19:24 -0700, brynn wrote: > Hi Martin, > Do you mean 2 images for each slot? I don't see how > > I made a test: > https://inkscape.org/en/~brynn/%E2%98%85happy-valentines-day SVG > file, and PNG > for the visible image (which I think of as a thumbnail). But how can > I include > a 3rd image? No the thumbnail is the third image, but it's generated and not something that you can normally enter. An administrator /could/ put in a different image for the thumbnail vs. the rendering vs. the svg file though. Best Regards, Martin Owens -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] new moderation features
On Fri, 2018-02-09 at 21:14 +0100, Maren Hachmann wrote: > Thanks, that helps. Kudos for figuring out that weird reason. > > Turns out one cannot subscribe to all news. I don't think it should > require me to subscribe to a specific language, when I have set it to > 'all', though. > > Screenshots: > http://i.imgur.com/3TxCOWG.png > http://i.imgur.com/Hi70BIT.png Great! I've fixed this specific issue, I don't think it was ever intended to be a required field like this. I also pushed the new keywords and html desc fields for the releases app. Which I figured was VERY important to fix. So we can now set a htmldesc on the release (say 0.91) which will show in google's search results as the description for those pages. Plus keywords for the release which will be added to the keywords list, then on top of that each platform can have it's own keywords now, so they get added on too. So base.html says "inkscape,", release.html template adds "release,download," Release object adds "0.92.1,fun_release,etc..." then the platform adds "windows,win32,win10,windows 10,..." etc etc. None of these fields are currently filled in though, so if there's some really kind docs person who wants to mull over what they should be all set to, let us know and I can give some training into how to use the admin site to set them. Martin, -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] new moderation features
Thanks for trying Maren, I've pushed a much more comprehensive set of changes, firstly by making form errors VERY visible. What's happening is that the form is being rejected because a field is required. The first fix was to tell the form that the field wasn't required, I don't know why it didn't work for you the second time though, so that's why I've pushed a bigger fix that shows tabs in red, keeps tabs present and shows field errors in red. So hopefully when you test again, it'll either work, or fail in a really big showy way. Best Regards, Martin Owens On Fri, 2018-02-09 at 14:50 +0100, Maren Hachmann wrote: > Thanks for having a look. > > No, doesn't work. > > To reproduce: > > Visit https://inkscape.org/en/alerts/settings/ > Go to one of the tabs (e.g. Website Page Published) > Move one of the sliders (e.g. Send Email Alert -> On) > Save Notification Settings > > Go to a different page. > Open Message settings page again. > All will be as before, the change was not registered. Emails are not > sent, either. > > Maren > > Am 09.02.2018 um 13:55 schrieb Martin Owens: > > > > Maren, > > > > Can you try now? I think I might have fixed the subscription saving > > issue. > > > > Martin, > > > > On Thu, 2018-02-08 at 19:07 -0700, brynn wrote: > > > > > > I think you misunderstood me. > > > > > > Let's say someone flags a member - anyone, moderator or regular > > > member. If > > > another moderator looks at that member's profile, they have no > > > idea > > > that member > > > has already been flagged. > > > > > > That member probably has at least one reported resource in their > > > profile page, > > > which is a clue that member might already be flagged. But > > > sometimes > > > the member > > > doesn't get flagged. > > > > > > Of course we can look at the Moderation Page, to find out if they > > > have been > > > flagged. But it would just be convenient to see it on the > > > profile > > > page, and not > > > have to look around for it. > > > > > > I'm just thinking that maybe reported items all need to be > > > handled > > > the same way. > > > Maybe reported Comments need to show some indication that it's > > > been > > > flagged? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > brynn > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Martin Owens > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2018 10:53 PM > > > To: brynn ; Inkscape-Docs > > > Cc: die humblex > > > Subject: Re: new moderation features > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Martin, would it be possible to have a similar label > > > > for > > > > flagged > > > > members? Just to prevent confusion? Or is the idea more about > > > > identifying > > > > hidden things, while members don't get hidden? > > > Users get deleted when they are censured. So there's no flag to > > > show. > > > They and their objects are toast (that includes anything they've > > > posted) > > > > > > Best Regard, Martin Owens > > > > > - > > - > > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > > ___ > > Inkscape-docs mailing list > > Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs > > > > --- > --- > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > ___ > Inkscape-docs mailing list > Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] gallery moderation - where is this image?
Hi Brynn, There are two upload spots in a resource, one is the 'file' and other is the rendering. You're currently free to upload two images into these slots. The main image page will show the rendering, while I think the moderation page is showing the 'file' version instead. This makes me wonder if we should have a way to see that. Martin, On Thu, 2018-02-08 at 19:52 -0700, brynn wrote: > Hi Friends, > I'm seeing something on the Moderation Page which I don't > understand. > Regarding the item titled "Wensen en Grenzen" by member Koekiepoekie. > > Look at kokiepokie profile. It shows no avatar, and 2 > reported images - > a thumbnail (pineapple) and resource is a b/w cartooon. > > On Moderation Page are 3 items related to this -- the > reported member > (no avatar showing), "cool ananas" which is the b/w cartoon, and item > titled > "Wensen en Grenzen". > > The "Wensen en Grenzen" item is showing a grayish-blue and > rust colored > abstract background with (I think) a puppy or some kind of cute baby > animal in > foreground. > > Where is that blue puppy image, in the gallery? It seems > they have > somehow uploaded 3 image files for one resource. But I can't find > where the > blue puppy image is being displayed. > > Thanks for your help :-) > brynn > > > --- > --- > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > ___ > Inkscape-docs mailing list > Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] new moderation features
Maren, Can you try now? I think I might have fixed the subscription saving issue. Martin, On Thu, 2018-02-08 at 19:07 -0700, brynn wrote: > I think you misunderstood me. > > Let's say someone flags a member - anyone, moderator or regular > member. If > another moderator looks at that member's profile, they have no idea > that member > has already been flagged. > > That member probably has at least one reported resource in their > profile page, > which is a clue that member might already be flagged. But sometimes > the member > doesn't get flagged. > > Of course we can look at the Moderation Page, to find out if they > have been > flagged. But it would just be convenient to see it on the profile > page, and not > have to look around for it. > > I'm just thinking that maybe reported items all need to be handled > the same way. > Maybe reported Comments need to show some indication that it's been > flagged? > > Thanks, > brynn > > -Original Message- > From: Martin Owens > Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2018 10:53 PM > To: brynn ; Inkscape-Docs > Cc: die humblex > Subject: Re: new moderation features > > > > > > > > Martin, would it be possible to have a similar label for > > flagged > > members? Just to prevent confusion? Or is the idea more about > > identifying > > hidden things, while members don't get hidden? > Users get deleted when they are censured. So there's no flag to show. > They and their objects are toast (that includes anything they've > posted) > > Best Regard, Martin Owens > -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] new moderation procedure?
Hi Brynn, It's worth contacting and inviting them in, yes. If you see a pattern of flagigng that indicates a misunderstanding, especially if they're leaving notes. Best Regards, Martin Owens On Thu, 2018-02-08 at 20:24 -0700, brynn wrote: > Hi Friends, > This is something which has never been discussed. But > recently we've > had some images being reported by a regular member, which moderators > have > approved, and they remain in the gallery. In one case they reported > a member. > > Should we contact a member who reports an image, thank them > for helping, > and explain our decision, why we decided not to delete the image? > > In this particular case, I'm thinking we may need to contact > him or her, > just to try and prevent more unnecessary reports. But in general, I > wonder if > we should take the time to explain our motivation, since the member > is taking > the time to help us. > > (Hah, for these recent reports, maybe I should try to recruit > him or her > as a moderator?) > > Thanks for any comments :-) > brynn > -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] new moderation features
> > Martin, would it be possible to have a similar label for > flagged > members? Just to prevent confusion? Or is the idea more about > identifying > hidden things, while members don't get hidden? Users get deleted when they are censured. So there's no flag to show. They and their objects are toast (that includes anything they've posted) Best Regard, Martin Owens -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] website unavailable
Thanks Brynn, First I heard of it was from you. Looks like the machine was reset and that stupid machine loads httpd (apache2) instead of nginx and the wsgi still doesn't auto load. It's all manual. So if there's a sys admin that can fix that, I'd love the help. Best Regards, Martin Owens On Tue, 2018-01-30 at 15:07 -0700, brynn wrote: > Hi Friends, > Just in case it's not already known, the website is > down. First noticed > about an hour ago. > > All best, > brynn > > > --- > --- > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > ___ > Inkscape-docs mailing list > Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] holiday graphics for website?
Hi Brynn, The poster originally emailed me directly and I asked them to post the image to the gallery and then post a message to the inkscape mailing list. Mostly just to see what people were thinking. I like the idea personally. But I see some challenges to it professionally. The biggest consideration for things like this is the both western centric and perceivably christian/pagan centric traditions. If images can be targeted, then it makes it easier to just show it for certain countries etc. If we don't mind being a bit blustering and ham fisted about it, then putting up a replacement image is just a matter of a small code update to the website. Although then you do have to look after the site later when you need it to come down. Best Regards, Martin Owens On Wed, 2017-12-20 at 14:19 -0700, brynn wrote: > Hi Friends, > I'm thinking about starting a tradition of making holiday > graphics for > the website. Like for example, today I spiffed up the logo for > Inkscape > Community with some lights (not twinkling, but maybe next year ;-p > ). > https://forum.inkscapecommunity.com/index.php I'm thinking of just > something > small and simple like that. Holly and berries, or something. > > We couldn't do exactly the same thing on the website, because > the logo > doesn't work the same way as IC. (plus it's pretty small) But there > must be > some ways to easily slip in some extra graphics into the website? > > Like maybe in the menu/navigation bar? (could they be red > and green? > or look like snow is piled on them?) Or the white space between the > logo on the > top-left and the search field on the right? > > I saw that cute Inkscape logo with a santa hat in the > gallery > (https://inkscape.org/en/~jiawhein/%E2%98%85inkscape-logo-christmas), > and that's > what got me started. But unfortunately, it has a solid white > background, which > I don't think could be used for the site. I requested either SVG or > a > transparent PNG, but no answer yet. > > I made some sort of straight lines of lights, one of which > might fit in > the white space at the top. But alone, they're hardly creative. > > Anyway, if someone could explain what those ways might be, > where we > could sneak in some cute graphics around holidays, I'll take the > responsibility > to put out a call for such graphics before each major holiday.or > maybe just > 4 seasons? Or maybe holidays plus 4 seasons? > > (I still want to see more graphics on the site, in > general. But that's > a much bigger project which I can't take a leadership role right > now. Well, not > unless someone else wants to co-leader it?) > > Thanks for comments :-) > > All best, > brynn > > > --- > --- > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > ___ > Inkscape-docs mailing list > Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] member name isn't a link (gallery)
Hi Brynn, When you upload an item, there' a drop down to say if you made the thing or if you have permission. If you have permission then there's an extra box for the name of the real author. That's when we show the author instead of the uploader's name. Best regards, Martin Owens On Sun, 2017-11-05 at 00:29 -0600, brynn wrote: > Hi Friends, > Just checking out this recent upload: > https://inkscape.org/en/~jay.hale/%E2%98%85heel-horse+0 > > How does it happen that thewell sort of a bylineisn't > a link, > and is not the name of the member who uploaded it. Even when I find > the member > in the breadcrumbs/path (jay.hale) I don't see that name as a > nickname or > something. > > It's no big deal. I'm just curious :-) > > Same member has another image (flagged) and it's "by name" is > a 3rd > different name. I just don't see how that can be done? Must be some > option > that I've never used. > > Thanks, > brynn > > > --- > --- > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > ___ > Inkscape-docs mailing list > Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] [Inkscape-devel] moderation - 'could have been made w/Inkscape'
On Mon, 2017-10-30 at 22:27 -0600, brynn wrote: > So going to the next step, these images, when well proven not to be > related to > Inkscape, can be handled just like spam. Both image and member > removed without > warning. > > Correct? Yes, if there's no redeeming feature, it's hard to imagine why we wouldn't spam the account. > Thanks again, > brynn -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] [Inkscape-devel] moderation - 'could have been made w/Inkscape'
On Fri, 2017-10-27 at 21:03 -0600, brynn wrote: > When I first was learning about the internet (just before y2k) it was > common to > see websites prominently posting warnings, and further explaining > that the > website owner can be held responsible (if users posts anything from > another > site, without giving credits, whether text or image). Sometimes it > was > threatened to remove any members who did so. > > So that's where I'm coming from. But now, it seems seems the climate > has > changed. There seems to be a different perspective (and apparently > some new > regulations too). This is called the Safe Harbour provisions in US law. As long as we're taking reasonable actions to remove content we have been informed is infringing, we're not culpable (IANAL, this isn't 100% true) > Are you suggesting we could work up some kind of search routine, for > when we > suspect an image has ownership issues (see my clues below)? If > TinEye reports, > let's say 6 identical stock images, and there's no connection in user > names, why > isn't that enough? It's a fairly high account, but it's slightly possible that the user has uploaded their inkscape image to a stock image site. So it's worth checking for an Author in the stock image sites and see if it matches. > I don't think I can see logins, or emails either. Certainly not > IPs. Unless I > just haven't found them yet. I've never found a member list or > anything like > that. If I need to find a member, I can only do it if I know their > name (type > it into the url). You can use the username and any other information posted. > These are the clues I had for the images I used for examples (which > apparently > all are turned out to be fishy). I think you've got a good list of things to check. Keep this list for future possible documentation for new moderators please. > How should we handle these members? Just like with the random, > unrelated photos > (which is delete the image, member stays)? Or is there some point > where the > member should be removed? The member can be removed if you like. > Here's a current example: https://inkscape.org/en/~techie001 The > hidden one is > an uploaded link (no image) to an entirely unrelated site (I think > music > download site). The Lamborghini one echoes several stock images, but > I can't > investigate (whether it might be "fan art" made with Inkscape) > because it's a > JPG. Originally it had an external link to a music download > site. The green > one got no results in TinEye, but had an external link to a game and > music > download site. That's a suspicious user, but it's very hard to tell for sure. But you can probably be a bit more critical of this user since as you say in your list, they don't seem to post any actual content other than links. Best Regards, Martin Owens -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] [Inkscape-devel] moderation - 'could have been made w/Inkscape'
On Fri, 2017-10-27 at 14:43 -0600, brynn wrote: > TinEye - Omg, a whole new world, haha!! > > Are we now saying that we will address certain copyright issues? Well it's not our job to delve into the legality, so these images shouldn't be removed because we've made a decision about copyright. But because we can see a moral issue with the posting of works like this and that they create noise and reduce the quality of our galleries. Moderation is firstly a measure to improve the quality of our community content. Secondary is the removal of legal issues when identified by actual lawyers and we can take action for them. I know this seems like a cop-out, but I'm always concerned vesting discerning and subjective powers into volunteers. > But maybe posting someone else's image needs to be addressed. And > especially > having such a tool as TinEye. I knew that it was possible to search > an image, > but I didn't know it was publicly available. (Thought probably cost > a lot of > money to buy or subscribe.) > > I would be so happy to use it, to take out this type of image. And I > would even > go retro to the date we put the CoC into effect. (in extra spare > time) It's actually a lot of work to do proper tracking. Every one of the previous entries was not just a search on tiny-eye, but also google image searches, searching for authors by email or username, looking for patterns. I tend to trust user content first, but there are signs that content is poor quality such as users with only one entry, who have only logged in once and that have posted jpeg images etc etc. > This might not be explainable (since I've asked it a few times over > the years, > and it always gets ignored). But I'm just so curious why people go > around > posting things, like images that aren't theirs, or meaningless > messages in > forums. Is it a certain class of spammer which tries to fill > unmoderated forums > or galleries, to overwhelm it, or test to find out if they are > moderated? There > can't be that many people who are sad wannabees, can there? I think it's not ignored, but just a really hard question to answer. It could be a bot posting random images in the belief that posting content will make their accounts look more real. It could be real people attempting to create a bit of fake pride in themselves by pretending they made a work. There's not a good way to know for sure why. One reason to post an image would be to get us to host their avatar image. So they can link from forums or other places their favourite artwork. We have space limits to stop spammers. Best Regards, Martin Owens -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] [Inkscape-devel] moderation - 'could have been made w/Inkscape'
On Thu, 2017-10-26 at 13:49 +0100, C R wrote: > On second thought, I'd take this down: > > https://inkscape.org/en/~noahgabe@_99/%E2%98%85music > > Reason: The lead graphic is marked "getty" at the bottom, so it's > clearly taken from another website. Getty is the company behind iStock Images, this image searched via TinEye (which I highly recommend to anyone doing moderation on images) shows the images was uploaded[1] in 2013 by BlackJack3D. > I'd take this one down too: > https://inkscape.org/en/~chiquitita/%E2%98%8515230751-703016283207581 > -8475381764676214363-n > > Because the author name in the graphic does not match the user name, > and they have not responded to your question. This is a ceramic tile from San Juan[2] so very likely not made in Inkscape, the email address for the store is ducart at yahoo, where as the user on inkscape.org is an aol address. > And I'd take this one down as well: > https://inkscape.org/en/~KristiBryant113/%E2%98%85jesus-saves-the-wor > ld2 > Because not only does it rip off (c) characters, it's a rip off of > the original you pointed to. The law is very clear when it gives people right to parody and create these kinds of cultural commentary works. We take stuff like this down on request from the original copyright holders only. BUT. This work is still not an original work. It was drawn by Menselijke Christen in 2014 using Coral Draw and Illustrator[3]. So it should be taken down on grounds that it's not an Inkscape work and wasn't made by the user > Anything with (c) marked as Public Domain needs to have some proof > that poster has the right to license it that way. > > No one should be posting other people's work on the inkscape website. Generally no. If I draw something infringing, that different to if I copy an image from where else. There's at least a creative step to drawing things which we should be up for defending under grounds of free speech until asked to take it down. Best Regards, Martin Owens 1. http://www.istockphoto.com/photo/music-in-the-heart-gm171271203-2008 0753 2. http://www.mipequenosanjuan.com/puertorican-decorative-tiles.html 3. https://nl.dreamstime.com/redactionele-stock-afbeelding-held-en-jesu s-image66927814s-image66927814 -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] website curate questions
On Mon, 2017-10-09 at 20:01 -0600, brynn wrote: > Oh, it's an uploaded link? I understand. > > It's not the first or even 2nd or 3rd time I've seen the external > link point to > the upload form (just the first time I couldn't change it). I wonder > if there's > some confusion somewhere? > > What do you mean "not a complete resource"? A complete resource has a file associated with it. A link has a url associated with it but no file. Martin, -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] website curate questions
Hi Brynn, This is because this entry was always a link and wasn't a resource/download in the same way other items are. There's a different form. If you look at the "Video or Link" option in the gallery menu top right, that should make the kind of item here. I've removed the link in the admin to make it easier for you to change. Although I suspect it'll need deleting since it's not a complete resource. Best Regards, Martin Owens On Mon, 2017-10-09 at 01:08 -0600, brynn wrote: > Hi Friends, > Since the external link for this image: > https://inkscape.org/en/~mahafuj/%E2%98%85images-27 points to the > upload form, I > thought I would remove the link via Curate. But it won't let me save > the > changes unless I enter a URL. > > The curate form doesn't look like the others I've > seen. Usually in the > black area, it allows to actually change the image, and the external > link is the > top field below-right (just under the black area). But here, the > external link > field is in the black area, and there's no opportunity to change the > image. And > the usual external link field below the black area isn't there. If I > remove the > URL from the field in the black area, and click Save, it warns me > that the URL > is missing, and won't save it. > > There must be something about this image that makes it > different, which > would probably explain this. But I don't see what it is. Can > someone offer > some guidance on this? > > Thank you very much, > brynn > > PS - At the moment, I don't think this is a bug, or else I would have > posted it > to the gitlab issue. But if it is, let me know and I'll post a new > Issue. > > > --- > --- > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > ___ > Inkscape-docs mailing list > Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] quick question re website messaging
Hi Brynn, Good question. The pastebin should be fine. the only reason the editor copies the codes over is because it's a 'rich-text' type editor with all the extra buttons for bold/headers etc etc. If it's just a text box, it should just paste text only. Best Regards, Martin Owens On Sat, 2017-10-07 at 19:57 -0600, brynn wrote: > Hi Friends, > Just a quick question. Somewhere recently someone told me > not to paste > text into the website pages editor, from a word processing type of > text document > (like LibreOffice). Apparently it transfers conflicting codes or > something. > > Is it the same for using the website's private > message? Should I only > use Notepad? > > (I'm just making myself some templates for when I need to > message > members as a moderator. Then I can just paste in the message, change > the member > name and maybe the name of the image.) > > Thanks, > brynn > > > > --- > --- > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > ___ > Inkscape-docs mailing list > Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] UX team?
On Wed, 2017-09-20 at 07:57 -0600, brynn wrote: > Oh! (Copying over to dev and user lists.) There are so very many > people > interested in working on the UX (I seem to recall several people had > been > signed up -- it's hard to believe not one of them would volunteer for > this > simple task. > > If "the team's business" means writing the intro, Team Details and > Charter, I > can do that. What other business might there be? (Even though I'm > leading the > Moderators Team, I suspect the "business" is probably different.) > > If it requires a lot of work, let's put it up on the To-Do List page, > to try to > recruit someone. But what kind of business is it? The above, plus managing ux requests and making sure the team has a function that it can maintain. So if we have a discussion about a ux piece, there's a gitlab issues tracker or similar we can all go to. But the actual setup is up to the leader and team tbh. Best Regards, Martin Owens -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] UX team?
On Wed, 2017-09-20 at 06:42 -0600, brynn wrote: > Hi Friends, > I just noticed there is no UX team showing on the Teams page > (https://inkscape.org/en/teams/). I could have sworn I saw one > there, not too > long ago (couple of months maybe). I think it had several members. > > What happened with that? The UI team is currently hidden as it's TODO introduction and lack of leadership made it hard to justify keeping it visible. So what it needs is someone with a passion, preferably a UX person, who can say that even if it's just a team of one, that they will handle the team's business. Best Regards, Martin Owens -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] how to edit the top part of FAQ page
Dear Brynn, The questions part is actually generated by the 'toc' or table of contents plugin. You should only have to make H2/H3/H4 headers in your main body to update it. i.e. it's automatic, shouldn't need you to add both. Best Regards, Martin Owens On Wed, 2017-09-20 at 00:14 -0600, brynn wrote: > Hi Friends, > Having finally learned how to use the Scale setting and > change units for > version 0.92, I wanted to make a new FAQ for it. But I can only edit > the > "answers" section of the page. I can't figure out how to edit the > top part, > where the "questions" are. > > I tried switching from Content to Structure, in case the page > was > divided into 2 sections (like it once was in the past). But no luck. > > By right-clicking on the title of the toc, I found a box to > edit the > toc, but it only lets me edit the title. I would need to add a new > item. > > Even if I look at the Source, it only references a toc id > "259261". The > "questions" don't even appear in the source! I think I just don't > have the > right kind of access. > > Shall I just write the contents that I want to add, and send > them to > someone who can add them? > > Thank you very much, > brynn > > > > --- > --- > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > ___ > Inkscape-docs mailing list > Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] [Inkscape-devel] News item about the new manual work?
On Sun, 2017-06-04 at 13:20 -0500, Marietta Walker wrote: > If I can help, I will be glad to do so, but I do have limitations in > knowing the software. You would make a good editor then, both in the generic sense for English grammar and the functional sense in 'do you understand this' Is this something you'd be good at helping with? Best Regards, Martin Owens -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] [Inkscape-devel] News item about the new manual work?
Can someone help Maren? I feel like a news article and a deviantArt post would be useful for drumming up volunteers. But also, for a project director when just getting started, it's useful to hand out jobs, so people know that they are needed and that they don't have to think too much about which of the jobs they should do while figuring out the software/editing platform. Thoughts? Best Regards, Martin Owens On Sun, 2017-06-04 at 14:46 +0200, Maren Hachmann wrote: > CR, I have been translating (and fixing contents as I go) 1-2 > chapters > each day for the last 2.5 weeks and am more than halfway through (35 > chapters done, 24 left to do). There wasn't anyone else to be seen > around, after the first week, when one person translated a chapter > (unfortunately they picked the only one that needs to be rewritten > from > scratch, because Inkscape changed), and two people proofread a couple > of > chapters (thank you!!!). Well, and a couple of days ago, someone > seems > to have accidentally wiped all the notes on the book, that were > supposed > to help get people started (or maybe it was a platform bug). > > I'd be glad to see some proofreading and styling/screenshooting > people > get on board, so we can continue seamlessly after I'm through with > translating. > > I'm a bit disappointed about everyone being so engaged and vocal > about > helping/liking the action, and now me working on it alone for > 2 > weeks > already. > But that's normal, I guess - it was the reason why I haven't started > this earlier, and I felt ready to take it on now, no matter what. > > Anyway, I'm going to continue to plow through, then translations will > be > ready before the hackfest. In parallel, I'm going to be plowing > through > my new garden, and to help fix up someone else's house, so I expect > to > not have time for much else. > > I'd be glad if someone could try and reengage people to help with the > manual (preferably people who are able to work independently and know > Inkscape inside out, or who concentrate on something they really do > well, like fixing up language or styling). > > There are more than enough open tasks: > from CSS to cover design, to screenshooting, to consistency checking > and > layouting, to improving on my more or less weird English, to adding > missing content (or perhaps, translating, of course). > > And yet, when we do this, I think it's important to take care to > honor > the underlying 'Keep it simple and as short as possible' concept of > the > book, which would make it possible for young teenagers to use it to > get > started, without much theoretical ballast. > Elisa seems to have invested a *lot* of thought into how she built up > the chapters and when to start teaching which concept. I suspect her > concept stems from experience in teaching live Inkscape courses. > > Maren > > Am 04.06.2017 um 13:32 schrieb C R: > > > > I'd say let's wait and do a progress report, so we can say that > > we're > > making progress on it, rather than just that we've decided to do > > it. I > > plan on helping this area of the project much more after I handle > > the > > hackfest swag. It would be better to have a more or less complete > > manual before we announce it to the public, unless it's a call for > > help with it. > > > > If it's a call for help with that area of the project, then go > > ahead, though. :) > > > > Thanks for the amazing amount of work you're doing for the project, > > brynn. It's definitely helping drive my own motivation for Inkscape > > project work. :) > > > > -C > > > > On Sun, Jun 4, 2017 at 12:17 PM, brynn wrote: > > > > > > Hi Friends, > > > As I'm writing up a quick draft to announce the upcoming > > > hackfest, I > > > suddenly wondered if it might be a good idea to write a short > > > item about the > > > recent new work on the new manual? > > > > > > I could do that, after I finish the hackfest article. I'm > > > thinking > > > Maren might be able to get all the details correct, the first > > > time around? > > > Although I don't mean to volunteer her. As I said, I could do it > > > myself, if > > > we decide to do it. > > > > > > I think it would help in community-building, to keep the > > > wider > > > community up to date about these things. What do other manual > > > workers and > > > Docs list
Re: [Inkscape-docs] Robert Sterbal's introduction
On Fri, 2017-06-02 at 00:32 -0400, Robert Sterbal wrote: > Martin, > Thank you. > The first thing that needs to be done is to set up pages on Facebook > and Instagram. > Do you have a preference on the type of page to create? For facebook, this page already exists: https://www.facebook.com/Inksca pe.org/ The page is likely to be a "Cause or Community", not sure what kind of instagram options there are. Please do check if there are existing pages, groups or users with the brand. Best Regards, Martin Owens > Create a Page > Give your brand, business or cause a voice on Facebook and connect > with the people who matter to you. > It's free to set up. Just choose a Page type to get started. > Local Business or Place > Local Business or Place > Local Business or Place > > > > > > Get Page tips in app-messenger Messenger > By clicking Get Started, you agree to theFacebook Pages Terms. > Get Started > > Company, Organization or Institution > Company, Organization or Institution > Company, Organization or Institution > Join your supporters on Facebook. > Choose a category > Get Page tips in app-messenger Messenger > By clicking Get Started, you agree to theFacebook Pages Terms. > Get Started > > Brand or Product > Brand or Product > Brand or Product > Choose a category > Get Page tips in app-messenger Messenger > By clicking Get Started, you agree to theFacebook Pages Terms. > Get Started > > Artist, Band or Public Figure > Artist, Band or Public Figure > Artist, Band or Public Figure > Have a profile? Learn more about letting > people follow your public updates. > Choose a category > Get Page tips in app-messenger Messenger > By clicking Get Started, you agree to theFacebook Pages Terms. > Get Started > > Entertainment > Entertainment > Entertainment > Join your community on Facebook. > Choose a category > Get Page tips in app-messenger Messenger > By clicking Get Started, you agree to theFacebook Pages Terms. > Get Started > > Cause or Community > Cause or Community > Cause or Community > Join your supporters on Facebook. > > Get Page tips in app-messenger Messenger > By clicking Get Started, you agree to theFacebook Pages Terms. > Get Started > > > Robert Sterbal > rob...@sterbal.com > 412-977-3526 call/text > On 6/2/2017 12:15 AM, Martin Owens wrote: > > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1kilt4tm1KDCNysd5oy5M5wJnCCS > > 45fq > > a7VIoEyBl090/edit#gid=0 > -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] Robert Sterbal's introduction
Hi Robert, We're a fairly small team here, I look after the deviantArt group (and am the website administrator). There's a comprahensive list of everything here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1kilt4tm1KDCNysd5oy5M5wJnCCS45fq a7VIoEyBl090/edit#gid=0 If you make an intagram page or group, add the details to the spreadsheet above. If you need to store a password for admin access then let the inkscape-board know and we'll store the credentials in the board password vault. If you need access to facebook, we should get more details from Josh Andler (scislac) about how that works (I'm not on facebook myself) Thanks for your help! Best regards, Martin Owens On Thu, 2017-06-01 at 23:52 -0400, Robert Sterbal wrote: > All, > > I've been using social media since the 1990s and hope to help this > project reach out to users, particularly via Facebook Groups and > Instagram. > > Please let me know who I need to contact in order to move forward. > > Thanks, > > Robert Sterbal > rob...@sterbal.com > 412-977-3526 call/text > > --- > --- > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > ___ > Inkscape-docs mailing list > Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] [Manual] Terminology
On Mon, 2017-05-22 at 12:23 -0600, brynn wrote: > Unfortunately, we cannot copy-paste from > http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Inkscape_glossary, to get a > quickstart, because of licensing reasons, but we should stick to the > terminology that is used there, which is the canonical way to name > things for Inkscape. Although you can copy the list itself (without descriptions), since lists of things documenting something isn't copyrightable. (It's data) But that's up to you if you want to use it as a skelington. Martin, -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] zip versions of 0.48 not available
On Tue, 2017-05-16 at 12:28 -0600, brynn wrote: > Hi Friends, > Just trying to get a version of 0.48 for testing (helping > someone in a > forum) and for both zip and 7z, it says > > Download Failed > WARNING! The download for this isn't working or isn't set up right. > > Is this a problem? Or is there somewhere else where we can > get older > versions? Hi Brynn, Can you mention the page you're looking at/linking from? Best Regards, Martin Owens -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] website moderation policy final / teams?
On Fri, 2017-05-12 at 08:23 -0600, brynn wrote: > There was a weird glitch when I clicked Publish. It resulted in the > little gear > icon spinning around endlessly. But when I refreshed the page, it > showed me > that it had been published. That was an odd error with django-cms. I got the email showing the error, but it's an upstream issue. Let me know if it happens again or if this page is 'stuck' Martin, -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] website moderation policy final / teams?
This should do it: https://inkscape.org/en/*moderators/ A user can click "Request to join" and brynn can approve them. Also listed on: https://inkscape.org/en/teams/ Best Regards, Martin Owens On Fri, 2017-05-12 at 12:57 +0200, Maren Hachmann wrote: > Hi Brynn, > > Am 12.05.2017 um 12:27 schrieb brynn: > > > > Hi Friends, > > Since there have been no further comments regarding website > > moderation policy, I've made the changes to the CoC that we > > discussed. > - It's not published yet, was that intentional or were you waiting > for > some confirmation? > > > > > Most of those who commented about being retroactive, thought > > since the policy was not existing at the time, we should not delete > > images uploaded before this date (or the members who uploaded > > them). > > (So we can vote those old ones that I flagged, back in now.) > - Done. There are still a couple of images where Martin voted to > remove, > but we didn't... those are stuck in the queue. > > > > > I started to put out a call for volunteer moderators (on the > > To-Do List page, and also posting in forums and mailing lists) > > except I > > wasn't sure about the wording. I was going to say something like > > "Volunteers are needed to join the Website Team as Moderators." > > > > But then I realized there's no such thing as a Website Team, > > and > > actually it's a Website Editors teamwhich I'm not sure if > > moderators > > would be subset of editors... Hhmm, maybe so? > - I'd say we can make one. Would you like to provide the icon? > > > > > Anyway, I seem to recall there was some mention of possibly > > creating a Moderation Team. But before I post something like > > "Volunteers are needed to form a/join the Website Moderation Team" > > maybe > > we should decide if Moderators need their own team? > > > > This might be another subject, but pursuant to all the > > recent > > discussion and movement towards getting the French manual > > translated, so > > we can find update and expand it, I wonder if we need to think > > about a > > Documentation Team? > - I think it's not urgent, because communication might happen within > the > Booktype website (they have groups and chat). Generally, I believe it > would be a good idea. > > > > > Since Martin is the website guru, he probably has an idea > > what > > would be best here. Personally, I can't think of a reason for a > > formal > > moderation team. But there may be one (or more), that make sense, > > that I > > just never realized. > - Permissions ;-) > > Maren > > > > > Thoughts, comments? > > > > All best, > > brynn > > > > > > -Original Message- From: brynn > > Sent: Friday, May 05, 2017 10:04 AM > > To: Inkscape-Devel ; Inkscape-Docs ; C R ; Maren Hachmann ; Martin > > Owens > > ; Sylvain Chiron ; Eduard Braun > > Subject: [Inkscape-docs] website moderation policy final > > > > Hi Friends, > > It seems like this last message about moderation policy got > > buried in > > all the recent important chatter. So I'm re-sending the most vital > > parts of it, > > so we can finish this up. For convenience, > > https://inkscape.org/community/coc/ > > And here's the suggested change: > > > > In the Guidelines for User-Submitted Content section, replace > > > > "Art and other content submitted to the Inkscape website should > > adhere > > to the > > following rules:" > > > > with > > > > "Content uploaded to the gallery should be related to Inkscape > > (e.g. > > created > > with Inkscape, created for use with Inkscape, showing how to work > > with > > Inkscape, > > etc.). We reserve the right to remove any content that does not > > seem > > appropriate > > or does not adhere to the following obligatory rules:" > > > > C R said > > > > > > Little thing, but "created for use with Inkscape" could cover > > > things > > like just regular images... in fact it could cover just about > > anything, even things made with Adobe Illustrator. I'd simply cut > > that > > bit out. > > > > Hhmm.yes, I see what you mean. My interpretation of that, is > > for > > things > > like extensions or fil
Re: [Inkscape-docs] [Inkscape-devel] License for the new manual
Hi Maren, Victor, CR, Yes, let's settle this. CC-BY 4.0 https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Shall be used for the inkscape manual. I believe there's a weighty enough consensus not to beat around the bush any more. Best Regards, Martin Owens On Thu, 2017-05-11 at 01:18 +0200, Maren Hachmann wrote: > Sorry, I think I need to explain and ask one last question: > > I asked for CC-By, because that allows the licence to be changed when > you make derivatives, and because it wasn't clear yet which licence > we > might want to use in the end, and because this wasn't my decision to > make. > > Martin, you took it on you to count the votes. I think CC0 is out of > the > question by now. What is the current status? > > (Mc asked about CC-By, I think. I bet CR would prefer CC-By to CC-By- > SA, > from what I read.) > > Do people now just want to go with CC-By, either because they like it > most, or to just 'be done' with it and start working? (I'd like to > have > some kind of final decision). -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] [Inkscape-devel] Any chance we can make some docs material? (targeting the moon)
On Fri, 2017-05-05 at 08:12 -0600, brynn wrote: > I don't understand the first thing you described, about something > build and translate svg. But "the SVG screenshots program" caught my > attention. What is that? It's a way of taking a screenshot, where instead of getting a png with a flat canvas of pixels, you get an svg, with boxes and text where they appeared on the screen. It only works for Gtk3 apps, so inskcape 0.91, gimp, anything written for Qt, windows programs and Firefox all wouldn't work. (although there are browser screenshot programs for that) I suspect that such a venture would be fraught with niggles like menus, spacing, default icon themes and so on. So I put it on the back burner. But an interesting idea if anyone else is excited by it. Best Regards, Martin Owens -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] [Inkscape-devel] License for the new manual
On Tue, 2017-05-02 at 20:19 +0100, C R wrote: > but I'll bend. Thanks CR. That's very gracious. I'm counting the straw poll as: CC-BY-SA - Martin, Maren, a bending CR I'll commit us to a CC-BY-SA license by tomorrow unless some other developers or docs contributors step in against. Best Regards, Martin Owens -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] [Inkscape-devel] Any chance we can make some docs material? (targeting the moon)
On Tue, 2017-05-02 at 20:29 +0200, Maren Hachmann wrote: > > > If it needs screenshots that are close up, showing a drawing, I > could do > > that. But anything showing dialogs, it would not be a good idea, > imo. > > > > But I'll have a go at using a translator. And if I see any places > where > > I can make a screenshot ready, I'll do that too. > > > > - Sounds great :) Thank you, Brynn! I was thinking of something a little bit mad. Taking screenshots of our gtk3 inkscape build using the svg screenshots program. Seeing if we could standardise the size and look of any of our screenshots and maybe even translate the svg instead of the app each time. But so far that's just a whistful thought. Martin, -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] License for the new manual
CR, Brynn, I can not more highly recommend using CC-BY-SA, because it has attribution (which I think we've cleared up prior) and contains the appropriate copyleft. It's the license I would expect to use, it's the one that fits most with Inkscape as a project and it's the one we use on the website. Best Regards, Martin Owens On Tue, 2017-05-02 at 08:57 -0600, brynn wrote: > Retitled - "License for the new manual" (was "Any chance we can make > some > docs.") Also copying in Sylvain, since he's been working on > translation. I > know there's another translator, but I can't seem to open the manual > today, to > look it up. So if someone knows who that is, please copy them in to > this new > thread. > > > > > We should sort out what license we will offer the new manual under > > as > a first step, before starting any work. We need to reach a consensus > before work can proceed. > > Well, considering work has already started on the manual (the > translating part), > we might be a little behind the 8 ball. But I agree that we need to > nail down > the license asap. > > Retitling this to start the discussion. > > > > > Also, according to > https://fr.flossmanuals.net/start-with-inkscape/about-this-book/ > This document is GPL v3. > I recommend against choosing this license, as it requires all other > content used along with the parts of it to be gpl 3, which is > unnecessarily restrictive, especially for a document of this type. > > Well that's the same license as Inkscape. How is it too restrictive? > > For me, the main point is that it needs a license that will allow > anyone to edit > it. We can't get stuck with an outdated manual and have no way to > edit it (as a > community), ever again. > > All best, > brynn > > -Original Message- > From: C R > Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2017 4:22 AM > To: brynn > Cc: Nicolas Dufour ; Maren Hachmann ; inkscape-devel ; Inkscape-Docs > Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] [Inkscape-devel] Any chance we can make > some docs > material? (targeting the moon) > > Also, according to > https://fr.flossmanuals.net/start-with-inkscape/about-this-book/ > > This document is GPL v3. > I recommend against choosing this license, as it requires all other > content used along with the parts of it to be gpl 3, which is > unnecessarily restrictive, especially for a document of this type. > > We should sort out what license we will offer the new manual under as > a first step, before starting any work. We need to reach a consensus > before work can proceed. > > -C > > > On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 11:14 AM, C R wrote: > > > > Is anyone discussing a copyrighted book or manual at this point? If > > so, let's not. It's Copyleft or Public Domain. No proprietary books > > or > > content should be included in official Inkscape documentation. We > > need > > to be able to freely revise, edit, distribute without the legal > > entanglements. > > > > -C > > > > On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 8:28 AM, brynn wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > - How does version control work for booktype? > > > > > > This question will probably make more sense when you make the > > > next post you > > > promised from a different message. I had asked why we were > > > talking about > > > using gitlab and all that, if we were still focused on the FLOSS > > > translation/manual. And you said you had an idea to present that > > > you didn't > > > have time at that moment. > > > > > > I can't really see a marriage of these 2 projects (free manual, > > > copyrighted > > > book of tutorials). But I'm looking forward to hearing your > > > proposal :-) > > > > > > All best, > > > brynn > > > > > > -Original Message- From: Maren Hachmann > > > Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 1:28 PM > > > To: Nicolas Dufour ; brynn ; C R > > > Cc: inkscape-devel ; Inkscape-Docs > > > Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] [Inkscape-devel] Any chance we can > > > make some > > > docs material? (targeting the moon) > > > > > > > > > Hi Nicolas :D, > > > > > > thank you! > > > > > > What I would like to know (and what is now buried deep in the > > > email > > > stream) is: > > > > > > - How does version control work for booktype? Could it be > > > combined with > > > a git repos
Re: [Inkscape-docs] [Inkscape-devel] Any chance we can make some docs material? (targeting the moon)
Hi Maren, I talked with Chris this morning about how to set things up. But we were mostly trialing, thinking and researching. So not decisions or anything. > Even the booktype server of flossmanuals works with automation. > Using one of those would also have the advantage that, once set up, > this > system could be used for both developer as well as user documentation > (as Victor wrote in his post - and I agree with him). Developer documentation is a very different beast and I'd like to if at all possible keep that separate. wiki.inkscape.org is the best location for that at the moment. One of the ideas we were playing with, was getting contributors to edit content directly at gitlab.com, then we have a bunch of scripts that consume the wiki git repository, generate pot/po files, and provide the raw resource for an optional secondary step. The second step would be a sort of publishing step. Where we take the content as a specific time, and produce it into a cleaned up, pretty book/pdf. I imagine contributors like CR would be most interested in this step. But everyone would be involved in the raw materials step (writing words and getting screenshots into the wiki) > CC-By would lose that, after the first iteration, as far as my > understanding of the licence goes. That's not how licenses work (at least not these ones), you can't remove any prior terms, you can only add terms. Technically you could take a CC-BY work and wrap it in a CC-BY-SA work, or relicense as All Rights Reserved. BUT everyone would still be required to attend that that attribution of the original license. SA means you can't /add licenses/ to make it more restrictive. > @doctormo: "FLOSS Manuals utilise la licence libre GPL pour > l'ensemble > de ses travaux." - translates to: all manuals on flossmanuals are > under > the GPL (don't ask which version, doesn't say there on that page. > (https://www.flossmanualsfr.net/faq-floss-manuals-francophone/ch011_q > uest-ce-que-lopen-source-et-quelle-est-la-difference-entre-free- > libre-et-open). Ugh, not dual licensed then. This is where a CC0 or PD would have been better. We can't do anything with the content if we want to use CC-BY- SA since the licenses are incompatible. We'll have to be careful. Best Regards, Martin Owens -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] [Inkscape-devel] Any chance we can make some docs material? (targeting the moon)
On Sat, 2017-04-29 at 07:19 -0600, brynn wrote: > As far as I understand, all that's needed is an English translation > of...well I > can't find a link to the French version. Here's a link to whatever > has been > translated already: > https://fr.flossmanuals.net/start-with-inkscape/introduction/ No, that's not licensed. We can't and shouldn't use it until it has a known and open license. Unfortunately there are going to be lots of good resources that we just can't use. But you can use "the idea" of the content. So having similar sections and covering similar ground. Best Regards, Martin Owens -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] [Inkscape-devel] Any chance we can make some docs material? (targeting the moon)
> It's fine to pull content > from properly licenced sources, imho, too. > > I disagree. This would create a tangle of licenses and attribution > requirements that will make the contents less usable in/by other > projects. We should remove the burden of attribution where possible. It doesn't have to be a tangle if you set out the rules from the start. Copyleft exists to protect projects and attribution exists to give authors credit for their hard work. A CC-BY-SA project should be doable. But I'm hoping to examples of situations where educational materials were harmed by choosing an attribution style license. (also, if it's in a repository, the "who wrote what" becomes a bit easier) As for pulling in content from outside. Ask. Firstly ask if the author would like their work included, then ask if they could relicense their work to whatever is needed and then finally if the other two were met with enthusiasm, ask them to join the team. :-) Best Regards, Martin Owens -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] [Inkscape-devel] Any chance we can make some docs material? (targeting the moon)
On Sat, 2017-04-29 at 00:01 +0200, Maren Hachmann wrote: > Would it make sense to use gitlab's new subgroups feature for this? > > The inkscape-docs team could be a sub-team of Inkscape, that way. > There > are only 4 members as of now, so changing wouldn't be so difficult as > it > might be later on. Agreed. I've moved everything around and re-added the members to the group. Project is now: https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape-docs/manuals Group is now: https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape-docs Best Regards, Martin Owens -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] [Inkscape-devel] Any chance we can make some docs material? (targeting the moon)
On Fri, 2017-04-28 at 12:39 +0100, C R wrote: > I'd love to quit my job and just do docs. :) Unfortunately, that's > what it would probably take to get docs going to the extent we'd > like. > It's been discussed before, but never gone anywhere because of lack > of time/hands involved. > > Yes, we should use Scribus to do it. In fact, it should probably be a > github project to attract contributors. This way we can patch what > needs to be patched when stuff changes in subsequent releases. Sounds like you have a solid step one Chris. Here's the inkscape-docs group on gitlab, EVERYONE should join, there should be a button to join: https://gitlab.com/inkscape-docs And here's the new book/manual/docs project where files can be put: https://gitlab.com/inkscape/manuals I recommend using the wiki attached to the project to plan the adventure slowly. Add a bit at a time and don't rush to have something "complete" but have something small produced. Best Regards, Martin Owens -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] revisiting vetting of tutorials (on the website)
Hi Brynn, On Sun, 2017-03-26 at 07:40 -0600, brynn wrote: > But there does seem to be some functionality, which has been > planned > for, but not actually functioning yet, to allow for resource uploads > to be > approved. Maren says that we have 2 database fields, called > 'checked_by' > (person) and 'checked_sig' (person's signature), which are > specifically created > for approving uploads. She suggests making a bug/wishlist report to > request > these fields be defined (and made functional). > I would suggest attaching them to the Inkscape User account > (or some > other account which can be used for this). And then we would just > give people > who are interested in vetting tutorials (or other resources), access > to that > account. So question for Martin. > Before I make the bug report, is there some reason why it > would be a > waste of time for tutorials? I'm a little unsure of the question. But I'm going to try and answer what I think the question is: checked_by is a user object, checked sig is a gpg signature against the content. A bug report asking that all moderators be allowed to "check" any resource would be a very good idea and I imagine it being a fairly high priority as it allows us to enable a useful feature. Hope this helps! Best Regards, Martin Owens > Could this be done before the forum issue is > settled? Because if not, by then I'll be able to start on the > vetting process > that I've already been planning (see link to bug report above). But > if it could > be done before then, then other people could start vetting tutorials > that I > might not have even seen yet. (I've been putting off my twice yearly > update of > that page, while working on the new forum issue. So certainly there > are plenty > I haven't seen yet.) > Or is there some other reason why this plan would not > work? Or should > something else be included in the report (in case I'm not > understanding > something correctly? > > Thanks for any comments, > brynn > > -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] website issue
On Tue, 2017-02-21 at 03:15 +0100, Maren Hachmann wrote: > Made a report, but I suspect Martin already knew about it. > > He's currently working on updating the website, after it has moved to > gitlab. > This entrailed a couple of other updates that had been put on hold, > and > I assume one of those caused the issue. This is right. I updated the editor plugin which was required because of an updated cms module. Which of course caused a weird problem... of course. Martin, -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, SlashDot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] news editing
Hi Brynn, Not sure why that's going wrong for you. Pop the editor into HTML mode and check the code directly. Maybe the paste caused some weird tags that's confusing the editor. Best Regards, Martin Owens On Thu, 2017-02-16 at 20:44 -0700, brynn wrote: > Hi Martin and/or Maren, > I'm trying to make a quick News item using Bryce's 0.92.1 > announcement. > I'm trying to make "Regression Fixes" into h4 heading. I highlight > those 2 > words, and choose h4 heading from the Paragraph Format dropdown > menu. But it > keeps changing the entire page to h4! > Is there something new about the editor that I haven't > learned about > yet? > Maybe it has something to do with having been copied from > email, and > pasted directly into the editor? Maybe I need to type it in > fresh? At least I > already know I have to re-do the links, so they use the proper codes. > Well, I'll be limping along, by changing the html directly, > until I hear > from one of you (it's getting late for family households). > > Thanks, > brynn > > > --- > --- > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > engaging tech sites, SlashDot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > ___ > Inkscape-docs mailing list > Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, SlashDot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] 504 and 502 gateway errors
On Tue, 2017-01-24 at 18:48 +0100, Sylvain Chiron wrote: > Le 24/01/2017 à 17:19, Martin Owens a écrit : > > > > Also the link "Website Contributors" is misleading since the page > > it > > links to is actually a list of all contributors to all inkscape > > projects so far gathered. Including the main repository and docs > > teams. > Are you talking about this page? > https://inkscape.org/en/credits/ > > I don’t see any section for the main repository, and the docs are > actually part of the website; just look there: > https://inkscape.org/en/learn/ You're right Sylvain, the main repository information is only on my local website instance. Sorry for the noise Brynn! Martin, -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, SlashDot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] 504 and 502 gateway errors
On Mon, 2017-01-23 at 22:38 -0700, brynn wrote: > I know there are issues with the website not having enough > space lately. > But just to document. Or maybe this wasn't related to that? I was > trying to > get to: > > https://inkscape.org/en/contribute/contributors/ It's currently working for me. Also the link "Website Contributors" is misleading since the page it links to is actually a list of all contributors to all inkscape projects so far gathered. Including the main repository and docs teams. Martin, -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, SlashDot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] server errors in gallery
There was disk issues again, I've asked OSUOSL for more disk space and removed a 5GB access log... which showed there might have been issues with our caching service since requests for media and static files were rife within it. Martin, On Fri, 2017-01-20 at 07:14 -0700, brynn wrote: > Hi Friends, Martin, > I'm getting server errors when I try to open resources in the > gallery > that I've never opened before. If I've opened them before, they open > as normal. > I want to keep testing and try to gather info for you, but > the error > message says that it's generating an email. So I don't want to flood > you. > But let me know if I can help. > > All best, > brynn > > > > --- > --- > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > engaging tech sites, SlashDot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > ___ > Inkscape-docs mailing list > Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, SlashDot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website
On Sat, 2017-01-14 at 12:22 -0700, brynn wrote: > If it's as simple as making a "good" or "vetted" tag, and writing > guidelines, why not get started? Why not indeed. I trust you wholly with creating a simple set of guidelines, I think you made a good start in the previous email. You may wish to discuss, but I'm happy enough not to. The videos tutorials will be in two great categories: unvetted (all video tutorials added by anyone) and vetted (videos checked against your checklist). Getting a list of vetted videos is not critical, so we can be patient for your guidance and help sorting the content when the time is right. In the mean time, anyone is free to add tutorial links to the website. Best Regards, Martin Owens -- Developer Access Program for Intel Xeon Phi Processors Access to Intel Xeon Phi processor-based developer platforms. With one year of Intel Parallel Studio XE. Training and support from Colfax. Order your platform today. http://sdm.link/xeonphi ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website
On Fri, 2017-01-13 at 22:35 -0700, brynn wrote: > It seems to me like the Inkscape website should bear some > responsibility for providing quality content (even if it's not its > own content), especially regarding tutorials. And it will, it will bear as much responsibility for tagging tutorials as 'good' or 'vetted' as there are volunteers to do the vetting. If there is no one (or no one that knows what to do yet) then there is no vetting. But that does not mean we do not have a process in mind for tagging and marking tutorials as 'good' in the future. But I'd like to get a collection of tutorials built up before we drive it to perfection. Martin, -- Developer Access Program for Intel Xeon Phi Processors Access to Intel Xeon Phi processor-based developer platforms. With one year of Intel Parallel Studio XE. Training and support from Colfax. Order your platform today. http://sdm.link/xeonphi ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website
Hi Brynn, Most of what you say is right. > Well, something still feels weird about this kind of routine. It's perfectly normal for the internet. It's just like putting links into a spreadsheet instead of a text document. We have more flexibility with the spreadsheet as it's DATA, rather than text, which must be reformatted manually every time. > I assume it takes more resources - bandwidth, space, cpu or other? To host our own? Yeah, it's 300 times more pressure than a text file and 20 times more pressure than a large image. We'd need a server FARM, rather than a single machine. So since we can embed and link to youtube we do that. Wven my own videos will be on youtube and I'll be generally deleting any large videos that might be uploaded by other people since as an administrator I draw the line as hosting video directly. Of course there may be future exceptions, but I feel this is a fairly good baseline rule. > to do it using the > gallery, than just a simple text link. I guess I'm just old > fashioned. I'd > rather see nicely organized text, lists or table, where potentially > hundreds of > tutorials can be linked on one page. That's the elegance of DATA, we can turn the links into a list and design a page for the content that's disconnected from the actual content. So management of which videos becomes a parallel job that ANYONE can do, and page design becomes something that web designers do in code. The DATA can also be indexed, so text searches and drill down categorisation become possible. Overall it's much better to have this sort of thing in a SYSTEM, than to have it in a manually curated text file. > Or is it never in the plans? I think it would make the website even > better. In this case, there's no clear benefit to hosting our own. Only costs and burdens to us. Youtube (and others) so a fine job allowing embedding and handle many hairy issues for us. Our job is to integrate well enough to make it worthwhile for people to list their tutorials on the website. I'm hoping the new link function will make that easier. Best Regards, Martin Owens -- Developer Access Program for Intel Xeon Phi Processors Access to Intel Xeon Phi processor-based developer platforms. With one year of Intel Parallel Studio XE. Training and support from Colfax. Order your platform today. http://sdm.link/xeonphi ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website
On Tue, 2017-01-10 at 21:21 +0100, Maren Hachmann wrote: > Can't say that I can see why we'd take this route, when seemingly, we > all agree that the page would be better off being replaced with a > proper > solution to the problem... > We already had this situation once (where it was my fault), I don't > like > to see it repeated. > > Btw. anyone can add a link to an Inkscape tutorial video they like, > and > mark as 'Tutorial'. It needn't be the author (but it would be good to > have them on board, of course). If someone needs help with how to do > this, I'm available for explanations / step-by-steps. I'm really hoping my improvements which are yet to go in, will help get links added correctly. Because really that page needs to not exist in the form it is. But who knows, I have hope the next website release will be met with positive review. Best Regards, Martin Owens -- Developer Access Program for Intel Xeon Phi Processors Access to Intel Xeon Phi processor-based developer platforms. With one year of Intel Parallel Studio XE. Training and support from Colfax. Order your platform today. http://sdm.link/xeonphi ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website
Brynn & others, I'm working on an extra special form for the website that's tailored for adding videos. Hopefully this will both make is easier and explain what's to happen, rather than require people to remember what to do. I'll hopefully have something to show by the end of next week. poke me if I disappear though since I'm coming back from England and I might get distracted by real life. Best Regards, Martin Owens On Fri, 2017-01-06 at 20:49 -0700, brynn wrote: > Hi Vardenis, > I hope I can find a way to display the info, without all the > bullets > (black squares and circles and dots). In my opinion, that's what > makes the page > look so bad now. I think I might try a table. Or maybe a small > table for each > author? I can't promise that I'll be able to use your format. But > we can do > trial and error, until we find something that works for everyone. > As soon as I get your list, I can start working on it. After > I've > formatted, let's say 25% of the list, I'll show everyone how it > looks, or maybe > I'll try a couple of different formats, and we can discuss from > there. > I suppose there's no way to make a custom bullet, is > there? I can see > the list format working, with more subtle bullets. Maybe gray > instead of > black, or something else -- smaller bullets maybe? Sylvain, if > you're watching > this thread, maybe you know about that? I guess I've done it in the > past, by > list style. But I'm not sure how hard it would be to do on this > website. > > Thanks, > brynn > > > -Original Message- > From: Vardenis Pavardenis > Sent: Friday, January 06, 2017 4:45 AM > To: Martin Owens ; brynn ; Maren Hachmann ; inkscape-docs@lists.sourc > eforge.net > Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in > website > > > Hello, > I was a little busy these days, sorry. :-) I'm too agree that > you will not need upload all YouTube videos to the gallery, but just > update > "Video Tutorials" with new tutorials, or entire redesign or delete > this page, > but maybe just update. :-) I don't know how exactly works editor, but > someone > agree with format I give? (https://inkscape.org/en/paste/10565/) > It can be: > Nick Saporito @YouTube > Inkscape Explained < playlist link. > Inkscape Explained: Path Functions < video link > In this video I'll be going over the Path menu in > Inkscape. description > > ...with a lot black circles and black squares. :-) > > > 06.01.2017, 11:46, "Martin Owens" : > > > On Thu, 2017-01-05 at 23:51 -0700, brynn wrote: > > > Another thought I had. Video tutorial authors might be more inclined > to upload > videos, if they could upload small batches in one go, instead of one > at a time. > Would that be really hard to provide? > > > > We really DO NOT want people uploading videos to the inkscape > website. > > We only want the video links. Video links can be added by anyone and > I > wouldn't mind having a generic inkscape user to collect them all > under > if we need to. Linking to videos is allowed by anyone. > > The system is only a matter of cataloguing so we don't have to do so > much manual work. Esp for translations and updates. > > Best Regards, Martin Owens > > P.S. Maren, I should check to make sure that our pages don't say "by > Username" when the item is "I have permission" instead of "I own this > work" > > --- > --- > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > engaging tech sites, SlashDot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > ___ > Inkscape-docs mailing list > Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs > > -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, SlashDot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website
On Thu, 2017-01-05 at 23:51 -0700, brynn wrote: > Another thought I had. Video tutorial authors might be more inclined > to upload > videos, if they could upload small batches in one go, instead of one > at a time. > Would that be really hard to provide? We really DO NOT want people uploading videos to the inkscape website. We only want the video links. Video links can be added by anyone and I wouldn't mind having a generic inkscape user to collect them all under if we need to. Linking to videos is allowed by anyone. The system is only a matter of cataloguing so we don't have to do so much manual work. Esp for translations and updates. Best Regards, Martin Owens P.S. Maren, I should check to make sure that our pages don't say "by Username" when the item is "I have permission" instead of "I own this work" -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, SlashDot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] Website, Debugging updated: Publish?
It should be live, sorry for the confusion. On Thu, 2016-12-29 at 20:42 +0100, Maren Hachmann wrote: > Hi, > > Martin seems to have updated the debugging section a couple of days > ago: > https://inkscape.org/en/develop/debugging/?edit > > Was it intended to be published, or is it still a WIP? > > Maren > > --- > --- > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > engaging tech sites, SlashDot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > ___ > Inkscape-docs mailing list > Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, SlashDot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website
Hi Guys, I've been sick (and still am) so I'm trying to follow this thread as best I can, if you still have questions, you can ask me like this: "A question for Martin: Blah blah blah" and I'll hopefully see it. > - I wouldn't mind if some day, someone would decommission that page > entirely... It's not a beautiful page, and the gallery can do it just > as well, only with search, tags, ordering by quality, pagination, > commenting ... I agree and would like to see the page replaced. > I think that would be an improvement, and also make it easier for new > videos to be added by their creators. The idea of video embedding is really to collect resources and empower non-admins to add content. Tutorial videos or svg images, the only extra for videos is that they are links to a video site with a thumbnail instead of the actual video file. > But maybe that would be going too far? Nope, well within reason. Best Regards, Martin Owens -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, SlashDot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website
Don't forget to upload each of the videos into the website, if you add the youtube video as the URL link it will embed the video and you can add text and other important information like the license (if there is one). This way videos can be collected onto these tutorial pages using the gallery widgets. Martin, On Mon, 2017-01-02 at 16:02 -0700, brynn wrote: > No need to create a page. But if you want to make a list of > tutorials, with a > link to each one, I'll be glad to add them to that page. That page > needs some > attention besides current videos, too. I'm not sure how it got to be > organized > like it is, but I'm sure we could eliminate a lot of bullets. > > Thanks for your help, > brynn > > -Original Message- > From: Vardenis Pavardenis > Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 12:40 PM > To: brynn > Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in > website > > > No, no (I don't have permissions and maybe someone don't agree with > me). I'm not > editing, I'm only discuss for now about "Video Tutorials" section, > and I'm > thinking Nick Saporito, Chris Hildenbrand, Sids Art tutorials can be > more > helpful than now tutorials in Video Tutorial section. > I can try (In text editor) create page with format familiar to the > current with > new video tutorials from above authors and share here. :-) > > > 02.01.2017, 21:26, "brynn" : > > > Hi Vardenis, > Yes, Nick Saporito has very quickly compiled a huge amount of > Inkscape > tutorials! I think that now, they aren't quite as good as when he > first > started. Goes a little too fast now. And it drives me crazy that he > ALWAYS > calls the Selection tool, "the arrow tool". Even after I mentioned > it, he still > keeps saying it. But still, they are a free resource, and I think > they are > helpful for a LOT of Inkscape users. > Chris Hildenbrand's tutorials are mostly text tutorials. I > think only a > few are videos. Unless recently he's started using videos? But yes, > very good! > I haven't heard of Sids Art. I'll follow your link and check > it out. > Yes, those would certainly help to make the Video Tutorials > page more > current. I didn't understand you though. Did you mean to say that you > are > going to edit that page? If you want to help with the Inkscape > project, and > edit that page, we can give you permissions to edit the website. > > All best, > brynn > > -Original Message- > From: Vardenis Pavardenis > Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 11:55 AM > To: brynn > Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in > website > > > Hello, Brynn, > Thanks for you website, it is amazing! And really try to help with > your website > and outdated tutorials, I'm now trying with Video Tutorials section > in website, > Thanks for you help. ;-) > I'm thinking in "Video Tutorials" section tutorials from Nick > Saporito > (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEQXp_fcqwPcqrzNtWJ1w9w/playlists), > he have > playlist Inkscape explained(for very beginners), Inkscape Beginner > Tutorials, > Inkscape Intermediate/Advanced Tutorials, Inkscape Typeface > Tutorials, Inkscape > Logo tutorials, he explains from very beginning to advanced topics in > Inkscape, > too Chris Hildenbrand have awesome tutorials( > https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVMhFCCmrMisICIoyTIXsKw/playlists ) > for game > art, Inkscape basics of game art creation, Inkscape seamless > patterns, too in > channel is tutorials about how to animate. Too Sids Art - Inkscape > And Drawing > have interesting tutorials > (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLLI43BLYCGCqrnxqHwDRTni9K3V-Y > bkhs). > > I'm thinking this videos make Video Tutorials section more modern and > more > interest. > > What do you thinks about that? > > Sorry for my bad English language, Thanks. :-) > > > 02.01.2017, 20:41, "brynn" : > > > I have an interest in tutorials of all kinds, and keep a list of what > I consider > the best or most helpful tutorials (meaning that they don't contain > any errors > or outdated steps) on my website: https://forum.inkscapecommunity.com > /index.php > It's probably about 6 months out of date, right now. But I'll make it > current > pretty soon. > > I have a plan to bring them all over to the website, eventually, but > can't start > on it until I finish with other projects first. But I'd be glad to > help you, if > you wanted or needed it. >
Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website
On Mon, 2017-01-02 at 18:30 +0200, Vardenis Pavardenis wrote: > Hello, > "Video Tutorials" section in website is very, very old. Videos in > this section is about from 2007 years. I don't say these tutorials is > bad, but maybe is better to replace these tutorials to newer (video > quality low, etc.) or redesign this section in website (Because is > hard to share all new tutorial's, and I'm think most people searching > in YouTube or something like Vimeo) ? > In YouTube and Vimeo there are many who create Inkscape video > tutorials. I believe the job of Video Tutorial curator is available if you'd like to have a go. The first thing to do is to think about what's out there, maybe make a list of all the really great stuff, then think about how you'd put it together on a website. Sound like fun? Best Regards, Martin Owens Website Administrator > Sorry for my bad English language, Thanks, I'm post this only for > discussion. :-) > --- > --- > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > engaging tech sites, SlashDot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > ___ > Inkscape-docs mailing list > Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, SlashDot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] Website: Bad Gateway and server errors, even on login
On Mon, 2016-12-19 at 10:47 -0700, brynn wrote: > The site seems offline, at this moment. I get an "Unable to Connect" > page from > Firefox, but no error codes. Earlier today I was getting server > errors when > trying to view images in the gallery. I didn't report here, because > the error > message says that a report is generated. So I assumed Martin was > knowing about > it already. I did. I took the website down so I could do a post-mortem. * Server restart after power * Database [postgresql on localhost] didn't quite come back all the way. * Logs fills filled with error messages * Disk full pretty quick. What I'm surprised by was how memcached kept the site sort of going with all these issues. > (Perhaps it's my americanized consumerism, but even for free hosting, > this is > darn poor service which the project has been receiving lately. In my > opinion, > it's outrageous. I would have bailed long ago. My opinion.) These services are really quite expensive. This is because our website gets a LOT of hits. I understand the feeling that we ort to bail for something else, but to be honest we'd either be chaffing under less control or way more cost. Not that we should dismiss it because of costs of course. But it'd be a few thousand dollars a month and we should consider that carefully. Martin, -- Developer Access Program for Intel Xeon Phi Processors Access to Intel Xeon Phi processor-based developer platforms. With one year of Intel Parallel Studio XE. Training and support from Colfax. Order your platform today.http://sdm.link/intel ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] Website: Bad Gateway and server errors, even on login
On Mon, 2016-12-19 at 16:36 +0100, Jabier Arraiza wrote: > Not sure if undertand but if help, I still couldent upload a image. Looks like the webserver has run out of space :-( 30GB used up, 9GB on logs, 13GB on media files. It'll need some cleaning. Martin, -- Developer Access Program for Intel Xeon Phi Processors Access to Intel Xeon Phi processor-based developer platforms. With one year of Intel Parallel Studio XE. Training and support from Colfax. Order your platform today.http://sdm.link/intel ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] Website: Bad Gateway and server errors, even on login
I've reset the nginx and wsgi services, testing from here looks ok, but it might be something intermittent. Martin, On Mon, 2016-12-19 at 15:07 +0100, Maren Hachmann wrote: > Hi Martin, > > could you have a look at the website? It's giving lots of server > errors > and Bad Gateway errors, upon trying to upload something (Bryce's pre4 > source code), trying to view resources as well as when trying to > login. > > It could be connected to the outages we experienced yesterday, which > were related to power failure in some data center, but I suspect that > it > isn't (or that it would need fixing on the server, at least). > > Regards, > Maren -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, SlashDot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] about contest entry excluded?
On Sat, 2016-11-19 at 13:09 -0700, Brynn wrote: > Hi Friends, > Just catching up on gallery postings since I've been under > the > weather last week. I noticed this image: > > https://inkscape.org/en/~rognu/%E2%98%85inkscape-092 > > which is not in the contest gallery, but obviously seems to be meant > to be > in the contest. Awesome image, I probably would have voted for it. > Is there some reason it's not in the contest > gallery? Submitted too > late? Does anyone know the story? They were late and when Josh Andler asked me to add it, I couldn't because it's not an svg file and doesn't have the right license. I'm hoping the next contest will be able to have an entrant from this artist. Martin, signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] website messaging
On Wed, 2016-11-02 at 17:16 -0600, Brynn wrote: > Hi Martin, > Looks like the message went through. Doesn't give a > confirmation, > but I'm not sure if it's supposed to. > However, I find comments are entirely missing from the > gallery :-( I forgot to commit the templatetag files. Martin, -- Developer Access Program for Intel Xeon Phi Processors Access to Intel Xeon Phi processor-based developer platforms. With one year of Intel Parallel Studio XE. Training and support from Colfax. Order your platform today. http://sdm.link/xeonphi ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] website messaging
Give it another go now. On Wed, 2016-11-02 at 14:23 -0600, Brynn wrote: > Hi Friends, > Is the website messaging system not working? I'm getting a > server > error, trying to send a message. Not a Comment, but a message. If > it's > broken, I'll stop trying to send a message. But if it's > intermittent, I'll > wait a while and try again. It's just that the page showing "Server > Error" > indicates that it's generating emails, so I don't want to deluge > Martin. > > Thanks, > brynn > > > --- > --- > Developer Access Program for Intel Xeon Phi Processors > Access to Intel Xeon Phi processor-based developer platforms. > With one year of Intel Parallel Studio XE. > Training and support from Colfax. > Order your platform today. http://sdm.link/xeonphi > ___ > Inkscape-docs mailing list > Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs -- Developer Access Program for Intel Xeon Phi Processors Access to Intel Xeon Phi processor-based developer platforms. With one year of Intel Parallel Studio XE. Training and support from Colfax. Order your platform today. http://sdm.link/xeonphi ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] comment glitch?
I've just pushed an update to the caching formula to attempt to account for comment creation. Will the best luck, it should cover any page with comments now and in the future. Tests also added. Let me know if you spot issues. Best Regards, Martin Owens On Tue, 2016-11-01 at 18:19 +0100, Jabiertxo Arraiza Cenoz wrote: > It also happends to me. > But i think not click on the number. > > On Tue, 2016-11-01 at 05:17 -0600, Brynn wrote: > > > > Hi Friends, > > Not posting bug report yet, in case this might be a known > > issue, or > > even a non-issue. I was just posting a comment in the gallery > > (contest > > section). After I posted, I wondered if I could edit, and I > > clicked > > on the > > comment number (#3). Then the comment just disappeared. I > > thought > > it had > > been deleted somehow. So I posted another comment. > > Well, of course, now the first comment has returned, as > > soon > > as I > > submitted the 2nd one. Maybe it's not a major issue, but just in > > case. Let > > me know if I can provide further info. > > Just tested on one of my own images, so I don't mess up > > someone > > else's image page. Submitted a comment, then clicked the comment > > number. > > Comment disappeared! > > Refreshing page several times over 5 minutes, it still is > > missing. > > I'll keep watching and refreshing, and after 15 min, I'll post > > another > > comment, to see what happens. > > Aargh, I lost track of time. So an hour later, now the > > comment is > > showing again. Maybe it's not a problem, but just in case. > > > > Thanks, > > brynn > > > > > > --- > > --- > > Developer Access Program for Intel Xeon Phi Processors > > Access to Intel Xeon Phi processor-based developer platforms. > > With one year of Intel Parallel Studio XE. > > Training and support from Colfax. > > Order your platform today. http://sdm.link/xeonphi > > ___ > > Inkscape-docs mailing list > > Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs > --- > --- > Developer Access Program for Intel Xeon Phi Processors > Access to Intel Xeon Phi processor-based developer platforms. > With one year of Intel Parallel Studio XE. > Training and support from Colfax. > Order your platform today. http://sdm.link/xeonphi > ___ > Inkscape-docs mailing list > Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs -- Developer Access Program for Intel Xeon Phi Processors Access to Intel Xeon Phi processor-based developer platforms. With one year of Intel Parallel Studio XE. Training and support from Colfax. Order your platform today. http://sdm.link/xeonphi ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] prevent email address as username on website?
Hi Brynn, This should be reported as a bug in the inkscape-web project Thanks, Martin On Thu, 2016-10-27 at 12:48 -0600, Brynn wrote: > Hi Friends, > I was just looking at the gallery today, and noticed a new > image > that's been uploaded. And I happened to notice that the user name is > an > email address. Is there any way to prevent that? > It seems like this has been briefly discussed before, but I > don't > remember which solution was proposed, if any. > Or is it not considered to be a problem? To me, the use of > email > addresses for username is just another way for spammers to harvest > addresses. So it just seems prudent not to contribute to that > problem. (Or > if nothing else, not to have a lot of spammer traffic). > > Thanks, > brynn > > > > --- > --- > The Command Line: Reinvented for Modern Developers > Did the resurgence of CLI tooling catch you by surprise? > Reconnect with the command line and become more productive. > Learn the new .NET and ASP.NET CLI. Get your free copy! > http://sdm.link/telerik > ___ > Inkscape-docs mailing list > Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs -- The Command Line: Reinvented for Modern Developers Did the resurgence of CLI tooling catch you by surprise? Reconnect with the command line and become more productive. Learn the new .NET and ASP.NET CLI. Get your free copy! http://sdm.link/telerik ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] about screen InkSpace description
We're pushing the about screen contest out today, So I've drafted out an update which you can see here: https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/=about-screen-contest/ It can still be amended, but I think it's fairly good for now. Thanks Brynn and Maren for your help. One day we'll be able to translate these texts too. Best Regards, Martin Owens On Thu, 2016-10-20 at 14:57 +0200, Maren Hachmann wrote: > Hi Brynn, > > thanks :) > > The link is https://inkscape.org/en/about-screen-contests/ (if Martin > intends to use it, I don't know). > > I like the 'celebration' part a lot. > > But as this is Martin's text and Martin's 'project', I won't do any > edits to it, unless he agrees. He may have had other ideas why he > wrote > it like this, don't know. > > Regards, > Maren > > Am 20.10.2016 um 05:52 schrieb Brynn: > > > > Hi Friends, > > I was just looking at the About Screen Contest InkSpace > > page: > > > > https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/=about-screen-contest/ > > > > after Martin asked on the User list if people would test uploading > > on this > > page: > > > > https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/=about-screen-contest/about-test-co > > ntest/ > > > > And I noticed the description on the first page, which is: > > > > "When the Inkscape team and community is winding down development > > and > > preparing to release the next version we invite our artist users to > > help us > > make Inkscape stand out by drawing an About Screen. Our goal is to > > show off > > what the new version of Inkscape can do in an artistic manner. We > > don't have > > a particular theme, but it should be smart, attractive and show off > > the best > > you can do in Inkscape." > > > > I think the tone reinforces a separation between the user > > and > > development communities, so I suggested the following > > change. However, I > > would also welcome others to tweak on it, since I'm sure it could > > be > > improved even further. > > (And of course I can't actually perform the edit, because I > > don't > > have the right kind of access for that.) > > > > "Long time Inkscape users may have noticed that the About screen > > (Help menu > > > About) is different for each major version of > > Inkscape. Traditionally, > > when development is winding down, and just before each new version > > is > > released, the community celebrates by holding a contest to choose a > > new > > image for the About screen. The goal is to show off what the new > > version > > can do, in an artistic manner, as well as to announce the release > > (with > > flair???). Please see [link] for more information." > > > > So I eliminated any mentioning of separate communities, > > explained > > what the About screen is, and about the contest. I dropped that > > part about > > the theme, because it seems to belong more in the instructions for > > the > > contest. I don't actually know where the instructions are > > yet. But if this > > is where they are supposed to be, then of course it needs a lot > > more > > editing! And I added a link to the instructions or other > > additional info. > > > > Please tweak away :-) > > > > Thank you very much, > > brynn > > > > > > - > > - > > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > > engaging tech sites, SlashDot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > > ___ > > Inkscape-docs mailing list > > Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs > > > > --- > --- > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > engaging tech sites, SlashDot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > ___ > Inkscape-docs mailing list > Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, SlashDot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] about screen InkSpace description
On Thu, 2016-10-20 at 14:57 +0200, Maren Hachmann wrote: > But as this is Martin's text and Martin's 'project', I won't do any > edits to it, unless he agrees. He may have had other ideas why he > wrote it like this, don't know. No, he asked Brynn to post it here. I wrote it when I was rushing and Brynn is pretty much right so I may end up using her text as is, but want to see what other people think too. Martin, signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, SlashDot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] Website design
Additional: Since inkscape is moving to Git(Hub|Lab) there is the prospect of moving inkscape-web there too. I know there's a few people who would be happy to use these tools, so if you're a contributor or likely to be one, let me know. We'd probably move our issues though, as much as possible to keep things together. Martin, -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, SlashDot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] [Inkscape-devel] how about some marketing and outreach?
> Yes, but I think the SVGs are heavier than the PNGs on the page. I'd > also have to load the fonts (anime ace 2) and make sure the dialogue > balloons can contain the text in all languages. Generate balloons, load css font (e.g. ttf), convert lower layer to png and just use svg as overlay. Stick some js in there or some css animations for a fun time. > What's this system? Is there info on the wiki about that? https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/=tutorial/ You can submit to this category a link to a youtube tutorial, and if we can collect them, it'd be really useful. (tag them as video) Martin, -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, SlashDot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] [Inkscape-devel] how about some marketing and outreach?
On Wed, 2016-10-12 at 11:07 -0400, Frédéric Guimont wrote: > Here's the link, for the curious, (don't mean to spam, though I think > it's on topic): http://quebeccite.com Did you know, you could post the images as svg files and make the text translatable ;-) > I can also help moderate the forums, make tutorials and such (I've > made an intro to the powerstroke a while back on youtube). Curating existing youtube videos would be a really big help. Getting them all into a youtube playlist and being able to put them into the inkscape website gallery system. We have a system where if you post a youtube video, the video will be embeded into the page and so we can collect them and put them into the website fairly easily. Martin, -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, SlashDot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] [Bug 1258842] Re: No page for vectors vs. Bitmaps
The page has been deleted along with all materials. Please see the board or a third party for further communications. Martin, On Fri, 2016-09-02 at 19:18 +, ugajin wrote: > @Martin Owens > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape-web/+bug/1258842 > > You are not as disappointed as I am with you. Irregular is right. > > How dare you speak to me this way. You were clearly told, before you > went ahead and made the page live, that I did not have a working > picture plugin. I am not responsible if you do not provide the tools > needed to upload image files. It was and/or ought to have been clear > to anyone with eyes to see, that the test page relied on external > links, and you were directed to this fact. > > Further, I did not ask you to download files from my web-site. In > fact you downloaded the said files without asking, and without my > consent. Is this how you generally behave, and treat artists? If so, > shame on you, and shame on you for doing it to me. I provided links > to those resources only, and not the resources themselves, Inkscape > have no claim on them, or right to host those image files. Please > remove them, and please refer this matter to the Board. > > It seems to me, it was a very small thing indeed, especially in the > circumstances to ask that someone replace dirty files with clean > ones, not least because I did not have the tools, and/or permissions > to replace them at that time. We were so close to getting the thing > right, and your hostile reaction is totally innapropriate. I have put > a lot of hard work into this project, and I have had few thanks for > doing so. As a reward for my effort, you have taken artwork which > does not belong to you, and in addition you removed my editor > priviledges. I cannot trust, or work with you again. > > Whatever your problem is, it should be with yourself with who you are > disappointed, and to be treated and spoken too, by you in this way, > is wholly unacceptable. Thanks to you, I have deleted, the guides, > and viewBox extension files from my resources directory. I am more > dissapointed than you can possiblt know, or imagine, and you can of > course file your own bug report. > > I will not be the assignee for the 'No page for vectors vs. Bitmaps' > bug, thank you. > > -u > > > > On Fri, 02 Sep 2016 16:23:22 + Martin Owens com> wrote > @ugajin - The files you provided on the page were published as live. > > I'm disappointed that you have come back to me now, after the > publish > time, to tell me the graphics were not the final versions. > > This is highly irregular and I will not change the files at this > time. > When we come back to this page in the future, we can update the > graphics. But I have committed the page in it's current state and > with > that I complete this long bug report as Fixed Released. Please open > another bug report to update the graphics. > > Maren if you need to track the svg picture plugin issue, or a bug > report > to make our own plugin, please go ahead. > > ** Changed in: inkscape-web > Importance: Undecided => Low > > ** Changed in: inkscape-web > Status: New => Fix Released > > ** Changed in: inkscape-web > Assignee: (unassigned) => rant (ugajin) > > -- > You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to the > bug > report. > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1258842 > > Title: > No page for vectors vs. Bitmaps > > Status in Inkscape-website: > Fix Released > > Bug description: > This page here: > > http://quasdar.deviantart.com/art/Bitmaps-vs-Vectors-323184682 > > Looks like the kind of information we may want on the website. > > To manage notifications about this bug go to: > https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape-web/+bug/1258842/+subscriptions > > > --- > --- > ___ > Inkscape-docs mailing list > Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] Shield data left
OK, Unless you're Martin or Maren, don't touch the front pages at the moment. The live content is there (as english versions) for most translations, but content has disapeared and we can't be sure why. To make sure there's no corruption, I'm putting a freeze on the home page for now. Martin, On Mon, 2016-08-29 at 15:01 +0200, Sylvain Chiron wrote: > Re, > > Shield data has gone; I provided it again, using my local instance > data, > in the English page, so that most users don't notice the bug — ;). > Translated shields are still blank: > https://inkscape.org/de/ > https://inkscape.org/fr/ > https://inkscape.org/es/ > https://inkscape.org/pt/ > https://inkscape.org/pt-br/ > https://inkscape.org/ru/ > https://inkscape.org/ja/ > https://inkscape.org/zh/ > https://inkscape.org/ko/ > > I don't know if the data will be restored automatically (I can > provide > all the translations except European Portuguese as it was translated > too > recently), but before it is, I have a question: > Duarte, it seems you are the artist who drew /Sunset/, the banner for > the ‘Learning Resources’ tab. The credit link to your art (in the > bottom > left-hand corner) is dead. Can you provide a working one please? > -- > Sylvain > > --- > --- > ___ > Inkscape-docs mailing list > Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] About the wiki
On Thu, 2016-08-04 at 09:36 +0200, Sylvain Chiron wrote: > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Wiki_in_site_root_directory > Well, seems we mustn't use the root directory. But we should at least > remove that annoying index.php/ part. I think ET is the person who last updated the wiki configuration. Martin, signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] About the wiki
On Tue, 2016-08-02 at 11:26 +0200, Sylvain Chiron wrote: > > On this home page, section ‘Project Info’, there are still several > page > that are addressed to normal users (and redundent with the main > website): About, Features, the FAQ (for questions not related to > development)… > I'd like to make things clearer but I'll need your help of course — > :) — > as I don't know much about the project and the way you see things. This is a matter of cleaning up content. You can delete pages, as well as making sure the content is available on the website itself. Older pages ended up on the wiki because the old website was not editable and was frozen for a long time. > My first thoughts: > * Couldn't we remove ‘/wiki/index.php’ from the URL and get something > like ‘http://wiki.inkscape.org/Inkscape’ that would be clear enough, > more logical/KISS, easier to type and shorter when copied? I wouldn't know anything about that. That sounds like a php thing. > * Do we still want to support the wiki translation (for release notes > maybe)? Then could we use MediaWiki's new and official translation > system (used on https://meta.wikimedia.org/ for example)? No, development is in English. If a thing needs translation, then that's a very big sign that the content shouldn't be on the wiki but on the website somewhere. Although for some fields on the website, we're still working on translation support. Martin, signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] Help please?
A couple of corrections for you Sylvain, Copyleft - using copyright terms to REQUIRE that copies retain the same license no matter how it's modified or re-copied. GPL and Creative Commons Share-alike are copyleft. Apache, MIT and Creative Commons Attribution are not copyleft licences. Although all are open source and Free Software licenses. > About us, we didn't plan to copy your content at all, at least for > the moment, but libre content is always appreciated. We require permission to make copies for all content on the website. Because delivering content makes a copy upon each request. When you view a website's contents you are making a copy. A link is ok though, and like you say it's easy enough to link. But it's more helpful I think to consider digesting good content into our docs rather than linking. Because we're more likely to maintain things centrally and be able to apply upgrades in visual appearance and translations. > I just added a link to your tutorial on the Inkscape wiki (there's > probably not much restriction for it) — that wiki whose hundreds of > dead > links from years and incorrectly formatted contents really scare me > —: > http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Tutorials_and_help#English_.2 > 8en.29 The wiki is dedicated to inkscape development. So tutorials about inkscape development (coding, website devel, writing docs) makes sense. But tutorials about how inkscape can be used should go on the website itself. You can use the wiki to plan out or draft content though, as long as the intention is that it'll end up on our public facing website at some point. Best Regards, Martin Owens signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] Help please?
HTML can't really be rendered directly as it opens the website up to abuses which are hard to control. We have a way to embed svg files, but even these can only be enabled one by one by an admin and all svg files not 'embedded' will be shown in tags and thus rendered by the browser without css and javascript support. I'd upload a pdf if you have a document about some external resource (like an extension). We may have a way to have blogs (like the planet) on the website, so that could be a way if you have a blog. But for ANY documentation or tutorial about inkscape that is useful enough, we should try and include it either in the docs project or the website. I'd be happy to see a collection of html tutorials on the website using the website's cms if we have the quality of submissions. Best Regards, Martin Owens On Mon, 2016-07-25 at 04:30 +0200, Sylvain Chiron wrote: > > > > Is not having them downloadable, to prevent them from being edited, > > or used > > without permission? > Well, I don't see what you could mean with ‘allowing to view a file > but > not to download it’. A file must be downloaded to be viewed, and then > can be taken, copied, edited. You should only think about law and > copyright if you have special wishes. > > Whether the website provides an explicit ‘Download’ button or you use > the ‘Save as…’ menu item of your browser when viewing, there's not > much > difference. > -- > Sylvain > > --- > --- > What NetFlow Analyzer can do for you? Monitors network bandwidth and > traffic > patterns at an interface-level. Reveals which users, apps, and > protocols are > consuming the most bandwidth. Provides multi-vendor support for > NetFlow, > J-Flow, sFlow and other flows. Make informed decisions using capacity > planning > reports.http://sdm.link/zohodev2dev > ___ > Inkscape-docs mailing list > Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- What NetFlow Analyzer can do for you? Monitors network bandwidth and traffic patterns at an interface-level. Reveals which users, apps, and protocols are consuming the most bandwidth. Provides multi-vendor support for NetFlow, J-Flow, sFlow and other flows. Make informed decisions using capacity planning reports.http://sdm.link/zohodev2dev___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] like it
On Wed, 2016-06-22 at 20:06 +0200, Sylvain Chiron wrote: > I don't know at all. Each of the sourceforge mailing lists has an administrative password to do this sort of task. Would you believe me if I said replacing the mailing lists was a high priority task? It's taking a long time to sort out, sorry about that. Best Regards, Martin Owens signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Attend Shape: An AT&T Tech Expo July 15-16. Meet us at AT&T Park in San Francisco, CA to explore cutting-edge tech and listen to tech luminaries present their vision of the future. This family event has something for everyone, including kids. Get more information and register today. http://sdm.link/attshape___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] Features + FAQ
On Fri, 2016-06-17 at 14:33 +0200, Sylvain Chiron wrote: > Isn't the opaque background exported with PNGs? It is. There's also a feature request to add the html style attribute 'background-color' to the svg tag, since that works in all browsers but isn't a part of the svg spec. Martin, signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- What NetFlow Analyzer can do for you? Monitors network bandwidth and traffic patterns at an interface-level. Reveals which users, apps, and protocols are consuming the most bandwidth. Provides multi-vendor support for NetFlow, J-Flow, sFlow and other flows. Make informed decisions using capacity planning reports. http://sdm.link/zohomanageengine___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] Questions concerning the website's content
On Fri, 2016-06-03 at 08:27 +0200, Sylvain Chiron wrote:
> Although it seems like it stays in the distant
> > future, and doesn't get closer. But the response was let's talk
> about
> > it when we are getting a new design.
>
> Sure, we could have a better design… Currently pages' content is a
> bit
> blunt. I don't think it's the right moment as the focus is on the
> 0.92
> release. We could work on it in a few months if you want.
I can say that you should consider any new website design to be frozen
and you can sort on any part of the design for the website for
incremental improvements. I've been ding that for the past few months
too.
If you change H1, h2, h3 styles, just remember to be specific in your
css and say .page h1 { ... }, so that the styles won't change non-cms
content pages. (unless that's what you want to do of course)
You can email me updated css files if you're not sure about patching or
merge requests.
Martin,
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Re: [Inkscape-docs] Hackfest page
On Thu, 2016-06-02 at 19:23 -0600, Brynn wrote: > Oh! Doesn't django much have a find/replace? I don't see it. But > if there > is, you could search for , and search again for space > , and > space, and replace with the correct thing. Yes, please confirm the all records action you'd like me to take in the backend. For examine "replace in all text plugins, this text for this text" etc Martin, signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- What NetFlow Analyzer can do for you? Monitors network bandwidth and traffic patterns at an interface-level. Reveals which users, apps, and protocols are consuming the most bandwidth. Provides multi-vendor support for NetFlow, J-Flow, sFlow and other flows. Make informed decisions using capacity planning reports. https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/305295220;132659582;e___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
[Inkscape-docs] Language Redirect
I've put in a 302 redirect into nginx on the website to tell it to redirect anyone going to inkscape.org/ to inkscape.org/en/ if you notice that the website is now always going to english on this page, that is intended. The background to this is that 20% of the webserver's resources were being used redirecting people from / to their language of choice like /de/ or /fr/ and the code and the database queries were /really/ very bad. Despite the loss in automatic language redirection for the landing page, please open a bug report in lp:inkscape-web if you need this feature. It'll take a while to write something that isn't quite so demanding on the resources of the machine. You should notice a slight speed improvement on the website. Martin Owens signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- What NetFlow Analyzer can do for you? Monitors network bandwidth and traffic patterns at an interface-level. Reveals which users, apps, and protocols are consuming the most bandwidth. Provides multi-vendor support for NetFlow, J-Flow, sFlow and other flows. Make informed decisions using capacity planning reports. https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/305295220;132659582;e___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] Hackfest page
On Tue, 2016-05-31 at 23:41 -0600, Brynn wrote: > To be honest, I see it as sad (not to mention, a little bit > illiterate). I think there's more acceptance that English is a language of consensus and not as prescriptive as children were taught in school in previous generations. For example people in the USA and UK can't agree if a comma is required between every and, or, and but. This is a marked departure from 'proper' since it's very hard to say what is proper when the language is naturally evolving as it's used in different spaces like text messages, websites and etcetera. So long as the text is a) Understandable and b) presentable; the actual grammar rules are up to the writer to a large degree. (the docs team might have different rules, but while I'm currently acting web master, these are my thoughts on website content) Best Regards, Martin Owens signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- What NetFlow Analyzer can do for you? Monitors network bandwidth and traffic patterns at an interface-level. Reveals which users, apps, and protocols are consuming the most bandwidth. Provides multi-vendor support for NetFlow, J-Flow, sFlow and other flows. Make informed decisions using capacity planning reports. https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/305295220;132659582;e___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] Hackfest page
On Tue, 2016-05-31 at 22:17 +0200, Sylvain Chiron wrote: > I have this existential question which pollutes my mind since I > started > translation in the Inkscape project: is it so common to write two > spaces > between a full stop/period and the sentence that follows in English > prose? Or is it the fault of shaking fingers with the use of the > ‘double-space becomes period then space’ feature with a mobile touch > keyboard? I often saw those two spaces on the Inkscape website, > enough > to be able to think it can be a wished rule. What is the reason? Unless you insert a no-breaking-space ( ) into the document, all spaces in html are counted as one space. The wysiwyg editor is the only thing capable of inserting anything more. Rule wise, two spaces are not needed, we can always recode two spaces formatting via code we want it later. A single space should be enough. Martin, signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- What NetFlow Analyzer can do for you? Monitors network bandwidth and traffic patterns at an interface-level. Reveals which users, apps, and protocols are consuming the most bandwidth. Provides multi-vendor support for NetFlow, J-Flow, sFlow and other flows. Make informed decisions using capacity planning reports. https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/305295220;132659582;e___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] New document liberation link
On Tue, 2016-05-24 at 01:13 +0200, Maren Hachmann wrote: > Couldn't we just ask? The suggested proceeding feels a bit 'the wrong > way around'. Who would need to be asked? We could even pass the > translations back to them, if they want. I don't think so in this case. There is a case for just going to do something. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Mobile security can be enabling, not merely restricting. Employees who bring their own devices (BYOD) to work are irked by the imposition of MDM restrictions. Mobile Device Manager Plus allows you to control only the apps on BYO-devices by containerizing them, leaving personal data untouched! https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/304595813;131938128;j___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] New document liberation link
On Mon, 2016-05-23 at 19:40 +0200, Maren Hachmann wrote: > Martin, is the change at > > https://inkscape.org/en/about/ > > ready for translation? > > And while I'm at it: is the new licence page confirmed now? I'm going to say yes, both are ready for translation. Martin, signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Mobile security can be enabling, not merely restricting. Employees who bring their own devices (BYOD) to work are irked by the imposition of MDM restrictions. Mobile Device Manager Plus allows you to control only the apps on BYO-devices by containerizing them, leaving personal data untouched! https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/304595813;131938128;j___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] user gallery (InkSpace)
Hi Brynn, > will there be a way to change the title, such as > change "brynn's gallery" to "brynn's artwork" (or whatever)? Since > it says > "None" underneath the title, does that mean there is going to be a > way to > add a description? Or maybe there already is, and I haven't found it > yet? There's supposed to be, but it's not there in the new design. So that's a bug. > How does it decide which image to use for the thumbnail? I > think > that's the first image I uploaded. But it would be nice to be able > to > choose. Also that thumbnail doesn't have the correct > proportions. It's > distorted. That's also a bug report. There is a way to select the thumbnail, but it's not restrictive enough for general use since you can at the moment pick /any/ work ever uploaded. > And finally. It's not easy to find this page, and it seems > like it > should be more easily accessible. I don't understand why it goes > from my > profile (https://inkscape.org/en/~brynn/gallery/brynns-gallery/) > where I > have to click on "All Uploads" > (https://inkscape.org/en/~brynn/gallery/). > And then from there, click on "brynn's gallery" > (https://inkscape.org/en/~brynn/gallery/brynns-gallery/). > It seems like the Galleries menu (bottom-right of > https://inkscape.org/en/~brynn/gallery/) should be on the profile > page. How would you lay it out? > > The Media Category and License menus could go on brynn's gallery > page > (https://inkscape.org/en/~brynn/gallery/brynns-gallery/). I deliberately took out the extra filters for the gallery pages. I want to make the gallery pages seem less like the normal "all works" pages. > I can see how it's helpful to have an "all uploads" > page. But > having to click through it, to find the gallery page (or pages), > seems > unnecessary. I think the galleries should be linked directly from > the > profile. This would need a spot of UI work, how would they link, what would the link look like? > Let me know if any of these should be written in a new bug > report. > I'll be glad to create one. But otherwise, just having those > questions > answered would be much appreciated. Thanks brynn, this is a good review of the gallery pages. Martin, signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Mobile security can be enabling, not merely restricting. Employees who bring their own devices (BYOD) to work are irked by the imposition of MDM restrictions. Mobile Device Manager Plus allows you to control only the apps on BYO-devices by containerizing them, leaving personal data untouched! https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/304595813;131938128;j___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] Recommending an OS
On Wed, 2016-05-11 at 20:05 +0200, Sylvain Chiron wrote: > > "Is it false > > balance to present ourselves as if all desktops are equal to us?" > > > > Aren't they? > > I think they are not, at least on the developer side, as for many > cross-platform free software projects. I should clarify. "Equal to us" means how we consider them. As a project we could consider Linux a preferred desktop, even if it's technically exactly the same. This is because we have a Free Software culture which supports the social and moral benefits of Free Software, even if we're not going to limit Inkscape to Linux. I don't think there's much benefit to thinking about the technical support since we should always allow developers the space to support inkscape on any platform they want really. Martin, signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Mobile security can be enabling, not merely restricting. Employees who bring their own devices (BYOD) to work are irked by the imposition of MDM restrictions. Mobile Device Manager Plus allows you to control only the apps on BYO-devices by containerizing them, leaving personal data untouched! https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/304595813;131938128;j___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
[Inkscape-docs] Recommending an OS
I'm mentioning this in inkscape since it's an interesting idea executed by a company rather than a free software project: http://store.steampowered.com/about/ Take a look at the bottom, where it says: "Ubuntu is our favorite version of Linux. Interested in giving it a whirl? You can install and run Ubuntu from a Live CD or USB stick, or install it to run alongside Windows. Grab an Ubuntu installer from Canonical and see what it’s all about." That's really interesting from our perspective, because our website never recommends using a free software desktop, or linking to ubuntu's website. Are we too cautious about recommending something like Ubuntu along side using Inkscape? Should we say that linux is the platform with the most support and Ubuntu is probably the one you should try first. Or are we happy with the no-opinion presentation we have currently? Is it false balance to present ourselves as if all desktops are equal to us? Anyway, I'm just mulling this over. Best Regards, Martin Owens signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Mobile security can be enabling, not merely restricting. Employees who bring their own devices (BYOD) to work are irked by the imposition of MDM restrictions. Mobile Device Manager Plus allows you to control only the apps on BYO-devices by containerizing them, leaving personal data untouched! https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/304595813;131938128;j___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
[Inkscape-docs] Credits Page
Docs and Developers, There's a new credits page on the website, it documents the full list of people who help do documentation, translations and website work: https://inkscape.org/en/credits/ It could be expanded to include regular lp:inkscape codebase too, since the lists are dynamic and most are generated from bzr logs. Best Regards, Martin Owens signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Find and fix application performance issues faster with Applications Manager Applications Manager provides deep performance insights into multiple tiers of your business applications. It resolves application problems quickly and reduces your MTTR. Get your free trial! https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/302982198;130105516;z___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] gallery spam
Thanks Brynn, You can bring spam to my attention directly with an email to webmaster@ inkscape.org or pressing the report spam button... although I'll be the first to admin that the report buttons on the website haven't historically always sent out the right emails. In this case I've deleted the item and deactivated the user account. Best Regards, Martin Owens On Sun, 2016-04-24 at 21:58 -0600, Brynn wrote: > Hi Friends, > https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/item/9492/ > https://media.inkscape.org/media/resources/file/7-1.jpg > Title translates to "dry eye syndrome". If you follow the link, it's > an > advertisement for some kind of eye drops. > > Doubtful the image was made with Inkscape. > > Thanks, > brynn > > > --- > --- > Find and fix application performance issues faster with Applications > Manager > Applications Manager provides deep performance insights into multiple > tiers of > your business applications. It resolves application problems quickly > and > reduces your MTTR. Get your free trial! > https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/302982198;130105516;z > ___ > Inkscape-docs mailing list > Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Find and fix application performance issues faster with Applications Manager Applications Manager provides deep performance insights into multiple tiers of your business applications. It resolves application problems quickly and reduces your MTTR. Get your free trial! https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/302982198;130105516;z___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] Code style example + FLOSS manual
On Mon, 2016-04-04 at 21:07 +0200, Maren Hachmann wrote: > Maybe there's also an option to use a code plugin again, if there > exists > one (I couldn't find one yet). The pygments plugin was probably > removed > because it was incompatible (as the last release date from 2010 seems > to hint at compatibility issues). I can confirm I removed it for compatibility reasons. Sorry about the missing code, I did a search but didn't pick up on these uses. Keep an eye open for any code viewing or hilighting functions, we can always add in things if they're useful and easy to maintain. Martin, -- ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] report of difficulty uploading to gallery
Fixing this wasn't easy, but I've committed (not released yet) code that replaces the License widget with the new FilterSelect widget, this gets the information about what categories their tied to and passes it to jquery. A jquery piece then disables options not allowed. The message returned to users is also improved, it now says what licenses are allowed (this is for people with disable js) Best Regards, Martin Owens On Sun, 2016-04-03 at 22:38 +0200, Maren Hachmann wrote: > Am 03.04.2016 um 21:06 schrieb Brynn: > > Hi Friends, > > Lazur mentioned to me that he's trying to upload a new filter set > > to > > the gallery. If I understand correctly, it won't upload, and the license > > area becomes red. I've guessed it's because he needs to use a certain > > license for a filter set, but I'm not sure specifically which one. (Also > > not sure if that's a correct guess.) He had tried to use Public Domain. > > (See the Chatbox on the index page of Inkscape Community, for details.) > > Hi Brynn, > > Yes, you're guessing correctly. The valid licences for Inkscape files > (i.e. those that potentially could be distributed with the program) are > set to GPL, LGPL and AGPL. > I'd also have added Public Domain and other free licences - but my > question about that topic has probably been lost. > > I also find it frustrating to upload something, and to have to re-select > the file when the licence doesn't match (I think it should at least give > feedback on which ones are allowed when submission fails). > > Would you like to make a bug report for this? (I don't know if that's > possible with django forms or if this needs some additional js. The > greying out would need AJAX to update the form when you switch the > category.) > > Thanks, > Kind regards, > Maren > > > > Thanks, > > brynn > > > > > > > > -- > > Transform Data into Opportunity. > > Accelerate data analysis in your applications with > > Intel Data Analytics Acceleration Library. > > Click to learn more. > > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=278785471&iu=/4140 > > ___ > > Inkscape-docs mailing list > > Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs > > > > > -- > Transform Data into Opportunity. > Accelerate data analysis in your applications with > Intel Data Analytics Acceleration Library. > Click to learn more. > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=278785471&iu=/4140 > ___ > Inkscape-docs mailing list > Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs -- Transform Data into Opportunity. Accelerate data analysis in your applications with Intel Data Analytics Acceleration Library. Click to learn more. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=278785471&iu=/4140 ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] non-Inkscape image in gallery
On Tue, 2016-02-23 at 04:41 -0700, Brynn wrote: > My offer to moderate (that I made some months ago) still stands :-) Hi Brynn, Your moderator privileges would be based on the mechanisms we have in the website. If that makes sense. I'll get back to you soon because I want to test it properly before throwing you into the mix. Thanks for your help. Best Regards, Martin Owens -- Site24x7 APM Insight: Get Deep Visibility into Application Performance APM + Mobile APM + RUM: Monitor 3 App instances at just $35/Month Monitor end-to-end web transactions and take corrective actions now Troubleshoot faster and improve end-user experience. Signup Now! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=272487151&iu=/4140 ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] non-Inkscape image in gallery
On Sun, 2016-02-21 at 14:09 -0700, Brynn wrote: > Oh no, I didn't see anything malicious either. But isn't this supposed to > be a gallery for Inkscape images? > > If any image is ok, as long as it's not malicious or advertising or nudity, > won't the gallery eventually lose its focus (along with its audience)? > (That cardboard castle image still annoys me. It's less about Inkscape than > this one! If this one actually has any connection.) > > Perhaps I'm missing something about this? But especially with space > apparently coming at a premium (BG 4 times in the last hour), won't the > gallery and website be better off without random non-Inkscape images? We have no official policy on non-inkscape images. Part of the reason for having such a low quota (when it works) is to not have to mind so much about random images that aren't actually offensive. It's an attempt to reduce our workloads if you will. Martin, -- Site24x7 APM Insight: Get Deep Visibility into Application Performance APM + Mobile APM + RUM: Monitor 3 App instances at just $35/Month Monitor end-to-end web transactions and take corrective actions now Troubleshoot faster and improve end-user experience. Signup Now! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=272487151&iu=/4140 ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] non-Inkscape image in gallery
Each user gets 10MB, there's nothing malicious I can see here (yet). I guess we'll just wait and see if this user does anything wrong. Martin, On Sun, 2016-02-21 at 04:29 -0700, Brynn wrote: > Hi Friends (website team), > I'm reporting images here, until the report system allows for > the > reporter to add comments. (Maybe I should make a feature request for > that?) > https://inkscape.org/en/~UptownKas/%E2%98%85kas > The member may well have created the logo in Inkscape, but > it's a > photo of (probably) his kids (or her kids?). It could be perfectly > innocent > misunderstanding. But could also just be advertisingalthough > they > didn't make any outside links. Should they be contacted? > Remind me how much space a regular member gets? -- Site24x7 APM Insight: Get Deep Visibility into Application Performance APM + Mobile APM + RUM: Monitor 3 App instances at just $35/Month Monitor end-to-end web transactions and take corrective actions now Troubleshoot faster and improve end-user experience. Signup Now! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=272487151&iu=/4140 ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
