Re: [JAWS-Users] start Jaws with run command

[northstar1950]

ooops, didn't notice i did that, lol! sorry about that. it is jaws12 
for jaws 12 and jaws13 for jaws 13. of course if you are still 
running jaws 11, then it would be jaws11.



Legend has it that on Tuesday 2/7/2012 06:30 PM, Ann Byrne said:


I don't put in the space: jaws12
At 06:11 PM 2/7/2012, you wrote:

jaws 12



Legend has it that on Tuesday 2/7/2012 04:43 PM, Lennie said:


Hi,

What is the proper syntax to start Jaws from the run command using 
Jaws12 on XP computer?


Thanks. Take care.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.

[rich]

Again, many thanks.
I must have been hitting the wrong download link.
It installed.
It looks like I will have to spend some time figuring how to negotiate and 
use this product.


rich
- Original Message - 
From: "Steve" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 11:21 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.



Rich,

You need to look for the download now link from that page, it is right 
above the 4Star rating in the links list.


When I initiated the download, I got the IE infobar pop-up and I had to 
hit alt-n and then the application key to allow the download to proceed.


If you successfully downloaded the file, it will be in the folder where 
you typically place your downloads.  The file starts with if-en-trial I 
think.


- Original Message - 
From: "rich" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 9:24 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.



Thanks for the suggestion.
I found a web site that had image for windows with a free 30 day trial.
http://download.cnet.com/Image-for-Windows/3000-2242_4-10149389.html
I clicked on the download link and after it announced 100 % there was no 
other information on what to do.

I could not find the program in my docs or programs.
How would I know if I actually downloaded it?

Rich
- Original Message - 
From: "Steve" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 5:51 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.



Image For Windows is good.
- Original Message - 
From: "rich" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.



Thanks for the info.
What program do you recommend to take an image for back up?
By the way, when the problem began, my sighted wife said the mouse 
would not work as well as the keyboard.
I had not made any changes to the configuration manager prior to the 
problem.

Interestingly, after rebooting, Microsoft ran a "check disc"?
Thanks again.

Rich
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From: "Steve" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 12:08 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.


Ok, lets start with selective startup.  There's nothing wrong with 
using selective startup, that's what I do to keep extra programs that 
aren't necessary from loading.


I can't figure out why you said the keyboard wasn't working, but I can 
educatedly guess why Jaws wasn't working.  I'll bet somehow you 
unchecked the REaltech sound manager from loading by mistake.  That 
will kill sound every time after Windows loads.  So the bottom line, 
when you go through the startup list, make sure you know which 
programs you are unchecking so you don't dump one that might be system 
critical, as the sound manager is for us, and of course, as an 
anti-virus program is.


As to your second question, your Outlook Express files are stored 
under your documents and settings, Username, Local Settings, 
application Data, Identities, alphanumeric string, Microsoft, Outlook 
Express folder. Unless you have Task and Folder options set to show 
hidden files, you won't see these files.


However, if you set up your backup solution to backup your Documents 
and Settings folder, it will back up your OE .dbx files as well.


The other type of backup you can use of course is a program that takes 
an image of your hard drive and stores it on external media.  The 
image will restore everything if there is a severe crash, including 
the Windows System and all your installed programs.  You don't have to 
do image files as often, but you should back up your data in the 
Documents and Settings folder more often, as that likely changes on a 
daily basis.
"Government is the great fiction, through which everybody endeavors to 
live at the expense of everybody else."

-Frederic Bastiat

Steve
Lansing, MI


- Original Message - 
From: "Rich Hamel" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 11:31 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.



Thanks all!! You guys really helped me on this one.
I've seemed to have gotten the computer working with your help.

To complete, I went in to msconfig and noticed that "selective" start 
was checked. My other options were "normal" and one other one.

What should be checked?
That computer is XP home.
My second computer is XP pro and when I checked , all 3 options said 
"checked".

The main computer would only allow one option to be checked.

Another question.
I have, I think, an external hard drive to back up information.
I am able to copy the C drive in to this but, I am not sure how or if 
I can copy my e mails from Outlook Express.
When in O E, the options to copy to folders were for folders within O 
E.


So, how can I back up e mails?

Thanks again for all of the help.

Rich
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From: "Steve" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 9:23 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.



Rich,


First, try starting your computer and hitting the f8 key until you

Re: [JAWS-Users] start Jaws with run command

[Ann Byrne]

I don't put in the space: jaws12
At 06:11 PM 2/7/2012, you wrote:

jaws 12



Legend has it that on Tuesday 2/7/2012 04:43 PM, Lennie said:


Hi,

What is the proper syntax to start Jaws from the run command using 
Jaws12 on XP computer?


Thanks. Take care.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] start Jaws with run command

[northstar1950]

jaws 12



Legend has it that on Tuesday 2/7/2012 04:43 PM, Lennie said:


Hi,

What is the proper syntax to start Jaws from the run command using 
Jaws12 on XP computer?


Thanks. Take care.

Lennie


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Re: [JAWS-Users] PDF files?

[Chris Smart]

yes you use Adobe reader, not flash player!

In Windows, change the application association for the file type 
pdf to whatever program you wish.


At 05:37 PM 2/7/2012, you wrote:
What do I need to open and read PDF documents?  I thought it was 
adobe, but
whenever I try and open a PDF file, it asks what program to open 
with, and

adobe flash player is not on the list.  Furthermore, I thought it was
supposed to open them with adobe automatically?  Suggestions?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] PDF files?

[tcivi31]

It is Adobe reader. Which I believe   is down loadable for free on  the 
Adobe Web site. Tom
- Original Message - 
From: "Kliphton" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 2:37 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] PDF files?


What do I need to open and read PDF documents?  I thought it was adobe, 
but

whenever I try and open a PDF file, it asks what program to open with, and
adobe flash player is not on the list.  Furthermore, I thought it was
supposed to open them with adobe automatically?  Suggestions?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] graphics question with Internet Explorer

[Dean Martineau]

Sharon, you may gain a lot of running a demo of JAWS 13 and trying
the page.  Sometimes the upgrades can enhance Internet Explorer
functionality with different pages. Even if you don't plan to upgrade, you
could run the demo and still get a little use of the latest version.

It seems like you're doing the right thing with regards to setting graphics
mode to All, so I don't know why the setting isn't holding.  While on the
site, press shift+insert+v, then press G until you reach the graphics
options; space until you hear All, then press enter.  That way, whatever the
setting is in the configuration manager, it will be personalized for this
page.

More controvertially, you might want to try the page with www.satogo.com.  I
find several pages where I need to use System Access to read them fully,
though I'm going to experiment, now that this has come up, to see if having
all graphics spoken solves any of those problems.

Dean


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[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Sharon Gosling
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 10:13 AM
To: jaws
Subject: [JAWS-Users] graphics question with Internet Explorer

I am using Windows 7, Jaws 11, and IE 9.  I want the Jaws settings to show
all graphics not tagged graphics when I open a website.  Every page I open
that I need a specific graphic to show I have to go in and change the
setting from tagged graphics to show all graphics.
I think it is the configuration manager that I need to set it for all my
Internet Explorer pages but I am having a very hard time with this.  I went
to the default jaws settings in configuration manager and the choice for
graphics is show all.  I opened the Internet explorer.jcf configuration and
it was already set to show all graphics. I did the save on that screen
anyway but every page I open in Internet Explorer shows the graphics back to
tagged only.
I am beginning to think I should just go back to IE 8 although I was really
excited when I actually got a Doctor Oz video to play the other day and then
got one to play this morning.  But I can't replicate what I did except that
the link to start the video is a long string of letters and such that only
shows up once in a while.  I have spent hours and hours trying to figure out
exact steps to play the videos.  Very frustrating as I am really a Doctor Oz
fan. If anyone knows how to make them play, I would love to know. The
website is www.doctoroz.com.
I also need more graphics to show up on my Facebook page and on some other
sites.
So how do I make I E 9 remember to show all graphics and not tagged
graphics.
Thanks,
Sherrie Gosling
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Re: [JAWS-Users] start Jaws with run command

[Stephan, William S NWK]

Windows key, then r for run, then jaws12


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[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Lennie
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 4:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] start Jaws with run command

Hi,

What is the proper syntax to start Jaws from the run command using 
Jaws12 on XP computer?

Thanks. Take care.

Lennie


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[JAWS-Users] start Jaws with run command

[Lennie]

Hi,

What is the proper syntax to start Jaws from the run command using 
Jaws12 on XP computer?


Thanks. Take care.

Lennie


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[JAWS-Users] PDF files?

[Kliphton]

What do I need to open and read PDF documents?  I thought it was adobe, but
whenever I try and open a PDF file, it asks what program to open with, and
adobe flash player is not on the list.  Furthermore, I thought it was
supposed to open them with adobe automatically?  Suggestions?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Symbol Confirmation

[Flor Lynch]

Yep, that's ANSI. the number without a leading zero is ASCII. However, 
the number values in each code are different for each character. 
Alt+0231 (ANSI) = c cedilla.


- Original Message - 
From: 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 9:21 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Symbol Confirmation


well, didn't realy mean to say strange, lol! if
you place a 0 as the first digit, you get yet another symbol.


Legend has it that on Tuesday 2/7/2012 02:43 PM, Flor Lynch said:

Nothing really strange about it. there are more than two character 
codes: ANSI, and ASCII, in this case; and JAWS gives the ANSI number. 
Then there is also Unicode, which has different numbers again.


- Original Message - From: 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 7:47 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Symbol Confirmation


hmmm, its really strange because with jaws, i can
print the c cadella (ç) and it shows as 231 so i
guess 231 and 135 are one and the same.

Legend has it that on Tuesday 2/7/2012 01:33 PM, Dan Rossi said:

Yep, ccidilla is a Frenchy accent.  I went to google and typed in 
"what is a ccidilla"  in quotes and poof.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Symbol Confirmation

[northstar1950]

well, didn't realy mean to say strange, lol! if 
you place a 0 as the first digit, you get yet another symbol.



Legend has it that on Tuesday 2/7/2012 02:43 PM, Flor Lynch said:

Nothing really strange about it. there are more 
than two character codes: ANSI, and ASCII, in 
this case; and JAWS gives the ANSI number. Then 
there is also Unicode, which has different numbers again.


- Original Message - From: 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 7:47 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Symbol Confirmation


hmmm, its really strange because with jaws, i can
print the c cadella (ç) and it shows as 231 so i
guess 231 and 135 are one and the same.

Legend has it that on Tuesday 2/7/2012 01:33 PM, Dan Rossi said:

Yep, ccidilla is a Frenchy accent.  I went to 
google and typed in "what is a ccidilla"  in quotes and poof.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Symbol Confirmation

[Flor Lynch]

Nothing really strange about it. there are more than two character 
codes: ANSI, and ASCII, in this case; and JAWS gives the ANSI number. 
Then there is also Unicode, which has different numbers again.


- Original Message - 
From: 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 7:47 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Symbol Confirmation


hmmm, its really strange because with jaws, i can
print the c cadella (ç) and it shows as 231 so i
guess 231 and 135 are one and the same.

Legend has it that on Tuesday 2/7/2012 01:33 PM, Dan Rossi said:

Yep, ccidilla is a Frenchy accent.  I went to google and typed in "what 
is a ccidilla"  in quotes and poof.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] adobe flash player?

[Roger Levine]

Hi Clifton, 
Use the following web site for easiest way to update flash . 
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You have version 11.1.102  and are up-to-date. 

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 Although this browser's Flash Player is up-to-date others on   your
machine may not be (there are two types of browser plugins on Windows).  

 You should probably download and run the 
Ninite
 Flash installer.   It will install/update Flash for all browsers
without adding any toolbars or junk and without making you 
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Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 10:29 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] adobe flash player?

Having issues installing adobe flash player.  When I click install, it just
gives me 2 buttons, one says I button, the other says q button.  I assumed
the I button means install, so I click that one, and nothing happens, the
installer just quits.  Suggestions?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Kendal reader?

[Moderator]

Let's make sure that we are not talking about the stand-alone units, since 
they don't conform to this list.
Thank you,
Richard Q. Justice-list moderator
blind-comput...@jaws-users.com
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- Original Message - 
From: "jerry martin" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 12:52 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Kendal reader?


Dean:

I just finished listening to the report on the EReaders.  It is a very in
depth bit of comparison shopping research (for lack of a better way to say
it).  But after listening to the report, I am still at a loss as to which is
the most blind-user friendly unit out there.  Do you think you could clear
this up for me?  I know that it will, mainly, depend on personal preference.
Thanks.  Jerry


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From: "Dean Martineau" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 9:02 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Kendal reader?


> The Kindle for PC program voices whatever it voices with its own voice.
> It
> does not rely on screen reader access.  With that program, some reading is
> possible.
>
> As amy Mason pointed out in the January, 2012 Braille Monitor: "The Amazon
> Kindle for PC provides a  slightly better experience in so far as it is
> possible to go forward and  backward in a book, read continuously or
> by page, and read sentences. Amazon  has chosen to allow JAWS and NVDA
> users
> to navigate menus with the screen  reader, but it has implemented its own
> commands and voice to read the actual  text on the screen, meaning that
> there is no Braille support for the  experience, and users are unable to
> read in
> smaller increments than by  sentence. Thus, although some rudimentary
> access
> to Kindle books is available,  it is not nearly enough to use the books
> for
> anything but the most casual  reading."
> For the best summary on this topic, read that article:
> http://www.nfb.org/images/nfb/Publications/bm/bm12/bm1201/bm120105.htm
>
> Dean
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> Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 6:15 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
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>
> Is the kindle reader accessible with jaws on the PC?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Symbol Confirmation

[jerry martin]

Thanks.
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From: "Dan Rossi" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 1:33 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Symbol Confirmation


Yep, ccidilla is a Frenchy accent.  I went to google and typed in "what is 
a ccidilla"  in quotes and poof.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Symbol Confirmation

[jerry martin]

Thanks.
- Original Message - 
From: "Flor Lynch" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 1:38 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Symbol Confirmation



It's also Portuguese, JSYK!

- Original Message - 
From: "Dan Rossi" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 7:33 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Symbol Confirmation


Yep, ccidilla is a Frenchy accent.  I went to google and typed in 
"what is a ccidilla"  in quotes and poof.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Symbol Confirmation

[northstar1950]

hmmm, its really strange because with jaws, i can 
print the c cadella (ç) and it shows as 231 so i 
guess 231 and 135 are one and the same.


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Yep, ccidilla is a Frenchy accent.  I went to 
google and typed in "what is a ccidilla"  in quotes and poof.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Symbol Confirmation

[northstar1950]

if the french accented letter looks like a letter c with a tail at 
the bottom then it does.



Legend has it that on Tuesday 2/7/2012 01:04 PM, jerry martin said:


To All Listers:

Using Windows Vista w/32 bit system, JAWS version 11, and MS Word 
2007, I need a confirmation on a symbol.  A friend of mine told me 
that using the ALT + 135 will put the french accented letter C in a 
word document.  When I performed this function, I got 
"Ccidilla"  Can anyone confirm this operation's accuracy?


Thanks.
Jerry

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Symbol Confirmation

[Flor Lynch]

It's also Portuguese, JSYK!

- Original Message - 
From: "Dan Rossi" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 7:33 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Symbol Confirmation


Yep, ccidilla is a Frenchy accent.  I went to google and typed in 
"what is a ccidilla"  in quotes and poof.


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Blue skies.
Dan Rossi
Carnegie Mellon University.
E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu
Tel: (412) 268-9081

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Symbol Confirmation

[Flor Lynch]

As reported. Correct. You can also get c cedilla from the JAWS 'select a 
symbol to print' list, which is initiated by JAWSKey+4. Then arrow to 
it, or press c (until upper or lower case) and then enter


- Original Message - 
From: "jerry martin" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 7:04 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Symbol Confirmation



To All Listers:

Using Windows Vista w/32 bit system, JAWS version 11, and MS Word 
2007, I need a confirmation on a symbol.  A friend of mine told me 
that using the ALT + 135 will put the french accented letter C in a 
word document.  When I performed this function, I got "Ccidilla"  Can 
anyone confirm this operation's accuracy?


Thanks.
Jerry

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Symbol Confirmation

[Dan Rossi]

Yep, ccidilla is a Frenchy accent.  I went to google and typed in "what is 
a ccidilla"  in quotes and poof.


--
Blue skies.
Dan Rossi
Carnegie Mellon University.
E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu
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Re: [JAWS-Users] adobe flash player?

[Flor Lynch]

There are three buttons, one of which is unlabelled, just called 
'button'. This is the Accept button (accept license Agreement. You may 
see it as one of two buttons, the other being Q or 'Quit' button. If you 
don't hear/see anything, press the tab key in that dialogue, and once 
again press either the 'button' or the i button. you may need to press 
the I button about three times (presumably for the different components 
of this awkwardly-fangled  Flash player) before the process is 
completed. Similarly, you may needd to activate the 'button' twice. the 
dialogue just goes away when the process is completed. Another 
alternative way to do the whole thing is to install the Flash update 
from http://ninite/com/flashupdate >.


- Original Message - 
From: "Kliphton" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 6:29 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] adobe flash player?


Having issues installing adobe flash player.  When I click install, it 
just
gives me 2 buttons, one says I button, the other says q button.  I 
assumed
the I button means install, so I click that one, and nothing happens, 
the

installer just quits.  Suggestions?

Kliphton Senior
(Twitter&Skype) kliphton72
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(Marriage group) 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/committed-married-christians

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[JAWS-Users] Symbol Confirmation

[jerry martin]

To All Listers:

Using Windows Vista w/32 bit system, JAWS version 11, and MS Word 2007, I need 
a confirmation on a symbol.  A friend of mine told me that using the ALT + 135 
will put the french accented letter C in a word document.  When I performed 
this function, I got "Ccidilla"  Can anyone confirm this operation's accuracy?

Thanks.
Jerry

"I used to complain about not having any shoes; until I met a man without any 
feet."
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[JAWS-Users] adobe flash player?

[Kliphton]

Having issues installing adobe flash player.  When I click install, it just
gives me 2 buttons, one says I button, the other says q button.  I assumed
the I button means install, so I click that one, and nothing happens, the
installer just quits.  Suggestions?

Kliphton Senior
(Twitter&Skype) kliphton72
(Marriage Blog) http://cm-i-t-real-world.blogspot.com
(Marriage group) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/committed-married-christians
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[JAWS-Users] graphics question with Internet Explorer

[Sharon Gosling]

I am using Windows 7, Jaws 11, and IE 9.  I want the Jaws settings to show all 
graphics not tagged graphics when I open a website.  Every page I open that I 
need a specific graphic to show I have to go in and change the setting from 
tagged graphics to show all graphics.
I think it is the configuration manager that I need to set it for all my 
Internet Explorer pages but I am having a very hard time with this.  I went to 
the default jaws settings in configuration manager and the choice for graphics 
is show all.  I opened the Internet explorer.jcf configuration and it was 
already set to show all graphics. I did the save on that screen anyway but 
every page I open in Internet Explorer shows the graphics back to tagged only.
I am beginning to think I should just go back to IE 8 although I was really 
excited when I actually got a Doctor Oz video to play the other day and then 
got one to play this morning.  But I can't replicate what I did except that the 
link to start the video is a long string of letters and such that only shows up 
once in a while.  I have spent hours and hours trying to figure out exact steps 
to play the videos.  Very frustrating as I am really a Doctor Oz fan. If anyone 
knows how to make them play, I would love to know. The website is 
www.doctoroz.com.
I also need more graphics to show up on my Facebook page and on some other 
sites.
So how do I make I E 9 remember to show all graphics and not tagged graphics.
Thanks,
Sherrie Gosling
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Re: [JAWS-Users] the old How to Access Facebook Most Effectively question

[Chris Smart]

main site and Jaws. no problems here.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Kendal reader?

[Sugar]

hello, speaking of Kindle, is there a list we can go for only Kindle 
assistance?
I have a good friend who just got one, but she is not blind;however I have 
no where else to ask this about

sorry if this is out of line,
just asking.
thanks
sugar

"Let Your Light So Shine before men,
so that they may see your good works and glorify our heavenly father in 
heaven.

`Matthew 5:16"
~Be Blessed, Sugar
- Original Message - 
From: "jerry martin" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 9:52 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Kendal reader?



Dean:

I just finished listening to the report on the EReaders.  It is a very in 
depth bit of comparison shopping research (for lack of a better way to say 
it).  But after listening to the report, I am still at a loss as to which 
is the most blind-user friendly unit out there.  Do you think you could 
clear this up for me?  I know that it will, mainly, depend on personal 
preference. Thanks.  Jerry



- Original Message - 
From: "Dean Martineau" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 9:02 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Kendal reader?


The Kindle for PC program voices whatever it voices with its own voice. 
It
does not rely on screen reader access.  With that program, some reading 
is

possible.

As amy Mason pointed out in the January, 2012 Braille Monitor: "The 
Amazon

Kindle for PC provides a  slightly better experience in so far as it is
possible to go forward and  backward in a book, read continuously or
by page, and read sentences. Amazon  has chosen to allow JAWS and NVDA 
users

to navigate menus with the screen  reader, but it has implemented its own
commands and voice to read the actual  text on the screen, meaning that
there is no Braille support for the  experience, and users are unable to
read in
smaller increments than by  sentence. Thus, although some rudimentary 
access
to Kindle books is available,  it is not nearly enough to use the books 
for

anything but the most casual  reading."
For the best summary on this topic, read that article:
http://www.nfb.org/images/nfb/Publications/bm/bm12/bm1201/bm120105.htm

Dean
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[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kliphton
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 6:15 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Kendal reader?

Is the kindle reader accessible with jaws on the PC?


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Re: [JAWS-Users] the old How to Access Facebook Most Effectively question

[Rick Watson]

I use m.facebook.com to post status updates and comment.
That's about all I do.
Rick


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(760) 753-1134 Ext 4007

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Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 12:34 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] the old How to Access Facebook Most Effectively question

I keep thinking of becoming active  on Facebook, but its accessibility of
lack thereof doesn't encourage me, and so I haven't done it.  Therefore, I
would like to hear experiences of anybody successfully using it.  Which
site(s) do you use, main, mobile, or other, and which tool(s, i.e., system
Access, JAWS, IOS, or different tools to access different aspects?

Dean



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Check Mark in MS Word 2007

[Brian Lee]

Hello Jerry, You can use the Alt key with 10003 to produce a checkmark in Word 
2007.  The Unicode value is 2713 so if you don't have a number pad you can type 
2713 and select it, and use alt+X to get the checkmark.   
Take care.  

 

Brian Lee
brianl...@hotmail.com

[JAWS-Users] Check Mark in MS Word 2007 Good morning.  Can anyone tell me what 
the ALT number combination is to insert a check mark in an MS Word 2007 word 
document?  Many thanks.  Jerry
  
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Kendal reader?

[jerry martin]

Dean:

I just finished listening to the report on the EReaders.  It is a very in 
depth bit of comparison shopping research (for lack of a better way to say 
it).  But after listening to the report, I am still at a loss as to which is 
the most blind-user friendly unit out there.  Do you think you could clear 
this up for me?  I know that it will, mainly, depend on personal preference. 
Thanks.  Jerry



- Original Message - 
From: "Dean Martineau" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 9:02 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Kendal reader?


The Kindle for PC program voices whatever it voices with its own voice. 
It

does not rely on screen reader access.  With that program, some reading is
possible.

As amy Mason pointed out in the January, 2012 Braille Monitor: "The Amazon
Kindle for PC provides a  slightly better experience in so far as it is
possible to go forward and  backward in a book, read continuously or
by page, and read sentences. Amazon  has chosen to allow JAWS and NVDA 
users

to navigate menus with the screen  reader, but it has implemented its own
commands and voice to read the actual  text on the screen, meaning that
there is no Braille support for the  experience, and users are unable to
read in
smaller increments than by  sentence. Thus, although some rudimentary 
access
to Kindle books is available,  it is not nearly enough to use the books 
for

anything but the most casual  reading."
For the best summary on this topic, read that article:
http://www.nfb.org/images/nfb/Publications/bm/bm12/bm1201/bm120105.htm

Dean
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[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kliphton
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 6:15 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Kendal reader?

Is the kindle reader accessible with jaws on the PC?


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[JAWS-Users] the old How to Access Facebook Most Effectively question

[Dean Martineau]

I keep thinking of becoming active  on Facebook, but its accessibility of
lack thereof doesn't encourage me, and so I haven't done it.  Therefore, I
would like to hear experiences of anybody successfully using it.  Which
site(s) do you use, main, mobile, or other, and which tool(s, i.e., system
Access, JAWS, IOS, or different tools to access different aspects?

Dean



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.

[Steve]

Rich,

You need to look for the download now link from that page, it is right above 
the 4Star rating in the links list.


When I initiated the download, I got the IE infobar pop-up and I had to hit 
alt-n and then the application key to allow the download to proceed.


If you successfully downloaded the file, it will be in the folder where you 
typically place your downloads.  The file starts with if-en-trial I think.


- Original Message - 
From: "rich" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 9:24 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.



Thanks for the suggestion.
I found a web site that had image for windows with a free 30 day trial.
http://download.cnet.com/Image-for-Windows/3000-2242_4-10149389.html
I clicked on the download link and after it announced 100 % there was no 
other information on what to do.

I could not find the program in my docs or programs.
How would I know if I actually downloaded it?

Rich
- Original Message - 
From: "Steve" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 5:51 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.



Image For Windows is good.
- Original Message - 
From: "rich" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.



Thanks for the info.
What program do you recommend to take an image for back up?
By the way, when the problem began, my sighted wife said the mouse would 
not work as well as the keyboard.
I had not made any changes to the configuration manager prior to the 
problem.

Interestingly, after rebooting, Microsoft ran a "check disc"?
Thanks again.

Rich
- Original Message - 
From: "Steve" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 12:08 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.


Ok, lets start with selective startup.  There's nothing wrong with 
using selective startup, that's what I do to keep extra programs that 
aren't necessary from loading.


I can't figure out why you said the keyboard wasn't working, but I can 
educatedly guess why Jaws wasn't working.  I'll bet somehow you 
unchecked the REaltech sound manager from loading by mistake.  That 
will kill sound every time after Windows loads.  So the bottom line, 
when you go through the startup list, make sure you know which programs 
you are unchecking so you don't dump one that might be system critical, 
as the sound manager is for us, and of course, as an anti-virus program 
is.


As to your second question, your Outlook Express files are stored under 
your documents and settings, Username, Local Settings, application 
Data, Identities, alphanumeric string, Microsoft, Outlook Express 
folder. Unless you have Task and Folder options set to show hidden 
files, you won't see these files.


However, if you set up your backup solution to backup your Documents 
and Settings folder, it will back up your OE .dbx files as well.


The other type of backup you can use of course is a program that takes 
an image of your hard drive and stores it on external media.  The image 
will restore everything if there is a severe crash, including the 
Windows System and all your installed programs.  You don't have to do 
image files as often, but you should back up your data in the Documents 
and Settings folder more often, as that likely changes on a daily 
basis.
"Government is the great fiction, through which everybody endeavors to 
live at the expense of everybody else."

-Frederic Bastiat

Steve
Lansing, MI


- Original Message - 
From: "Rich Hamel" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 11:31 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.



Thanks all!! You guys really helped me on this one.
I've seemed to have gotten the computer working with your help.

To complete, I went in to msconfig and noticed that "selective" start 
was checked. My other options were "normal" and one other one.

What should be checked?
That computer is XP home.
My second computer is XP pro and when I checked , all 3 options said 
"checked".

The main computer would only allow one option to be checked.

Another question.
I have, I think, an external hard drive to back up information.
I am able to copy the C drive in to this but, I am not sure how or if 
I can copy my e mails from Outlook Express.
When in O E, the options to copy to folders were for folders within O 
E.


So, how can I back up e mails?

Thanks again for all of the help.

Rich
- Original Message - 
From: "Steve" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 9:23 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.



Rich,


First, try starting your computer and hitting the f8 key until you 
get a dialog menu.  Try booting into safe mode.


Check out the following microsoft article.  It has several methods 
you can try, but many of them are advanced.


http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314503
Take my advice, I don't use it anyway.

Steve
Lansing, MI
- Original Message - 
From: "Rich Hamel" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, Feb

Re: [JAWS-Users] setting up Windows Live mail

[susan]

   Hi Steve and Dave,
Many thanks for your responses. The solution to my problem turned out to be
embarrassingly simple--I had forgotten to confirm my settings in gmail so
the imap settings weren't being recognized at the login prompt. Anyway, now
that I've synched up my account, what is the easiest way to clean up all the
old messages that migrated from the gmail server? I want to be sure that
Windows Live is not going to download all of them the next time I reopen it.
Also, what are the recommended settings to increase accessibility? For
example, I think I remember reading something about turning off the preview
and folder panes but can't quite find them. I'm still getting somewhat lost
within the program, especially with the ribbons.
Susan




-Original Message- 
From: Steve

Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 8:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] setting up Windows Live mail

Susan,

First, when you install the Livemail thing from Microsoft, as you run the
installer, there are about nine or so checkboxes at the beginning.  These
determine which of the components you will be installing.  If you don't want
anything else, then just uncheck all of them except for the mail program
itself.

Second, you have two choices here.  When you install Gmail, when you run
Livemail, you can tell it your GMail address and it will automatically
configure that for you, but it will configure it as a Mapi email client.

If you want, you can set up Gmail manually instead.  I'm going from memory
here, because our Windows Live Mail is the earlier version that doesn't have
the ribbons.  In that version, accounts was under the Tools menu.

I think you need to go to the Office Ribbon with alt-h and look for
accounts.  Or, it could be under the Options tab that you can access with
control-shift-o, but I am not certain about that.  Microsoft says when you
open WLM, you click on Mail and then you will see accounts, for whatever
that's worth.

Once you find accounts, you do things in the same way that you did for
Outlook Express.  On the first tab, you enter in your Gmail address,
password etc.  Then, you go to the servers tab to specify the Gmail Pop3 and
SMTP.  You will need to go to the advanced tab to specify the port numbers
and enable SSL checkboxes.

NOTE:  Before you set up your email in Google Mail, you need to log-in to
Google Mail and check the radio button to enable Pop3.

Take my advice, I don't use it anyway.

Steve
Lansing, MI
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From: "Susan Wojtecki" 

To: "jaws-users-list" 
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 1:02 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] setting up Windows Live mail



--
Hi Everyone,
I've had a new Windows 7 system for about a month. This was not a PC
with a preinstalled system so we installed Windows 7 and office 2007
but no email client. I attempted to install Windows live mail but
could not configure Pop3 access. I tried to follow the directions but
for some reason my Gmail password is not being accepted. I don't know
whether this is a problem with Comcast as my ISP or something about
gmail vs. microsoft. At this point I'm very confused about the
difference, if any, between Hotmail or Windows Live vs. live mail and
wonder whether it would be easier to enable Pop3 with a Microsoft
identity. At this point I've uninstalled Windows Live Essentials and
want to start from scratch because it was such a mess. By the way, is
there any place to go just to download the email client itself without
all the junk that Microsoft in its infinite wisdom wants to include?
Anyway, I would appreciate advice on this either on or off list at
susan.wojte...@gmail.com. Any assistance much appreciated.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Kendal reader?

[Dean Martineau]

The Kindle for PC program voices whatever it voices with its own voice.  It
does not rely on screen reader access.  With that program, some reading is
possible.  

As amy Mason pointed out in the January, 2012 Braille Monitor: "The Amazon
Kindle for PC provides a  slightly better experience in so far as it is
possible to go forward and  backward in a book, read continuously or
by page, and read sentences. Amazon  has chosen to allow JAWS and NVDA users
to navigate menus with the screen  reader, but it has implemented its own
commands and voice to read the actual  text on the screen, meaning that
there is no Braille support for the  experience, and users are unable to
read in
smaller increments than by  sentence. Thus, although some rudimentary access
to Kindle books is available,  it is not nearly enough to use the books for
anything but the most casual  reading."  
For the best summary on this topic, read that article:
http://www.nfb.org/images/nfb/Publications/bm/bm12/bm1201/bm120105.htm

Dean
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[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kliphton
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 6:15 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Kendal reader?

Is the kindle reader accessible with jaws on the PC?


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Introduction & office 2010 question

[Kliphton A.M-SR]

Your experience could be made easier by turning off the preview pain, and 
unchecking showing messages in groups, unless you like the group messages view. 
 To turn off the preview pain, hit alt v, followed by pn, then arrow down to 
off, and hit enter.  If you want to uncheck show messages in groups, hit alt V 
followed by a and b, then arrow up twice and hit inter on show messages in 
group.  This will make your experience a lot smoother.  HTH
On Feb 4, 2012, at 11:08 PM, Muhammad Babar Shahzad wrote:

> Dear Listers Greetings,
> I am a social entrepreneur from Pakistan I have been a regular jaws user for 
> last 11 years.
> I have been trying to work with MS office 2010 but it seems I need to have 
> some guidance as the ribbons are not easy to use with jaws. at least in my 
> case that i am using jaws 13.0 . Any help please?
> 
> Thanks and Warm Regards, 
> Muhammad Babar Shahzad, Co-Director & Founder, Empower Pak (EP),
> Cell: +92-300--5631220
> E-Mail: ba...@ep.org.pk / babarant...@gmail.com
> Office Phone: +92-995--616220
> Web: www.ep.org.pk
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> Farooqi Colony, Railway Road,
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[JAWS-Users] Kendal reader?

[Kliphton]

Is the kindle reader accessible with jaws on the PC?


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Re: [JAWS-Users] daily information

[jerry martin]

Thanks much.
- Original Message - 
From: "Flor Lynch" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 7:55 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] daily information


It does, in the Wingdings font anyway. In other circumstances - different 
fonts, etc. - that symbol

number represents a German o umlaut.

- Original Message - 
From: "jerry martin" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 1:39 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] daily information



Does the ALT number combination also work in MS Word 2007; and if not,
what is the ALT number combination for a checkmark?  Thanks.  Jerry
- Original Message - 
From: "David Ferrin" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 6:04 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] daily information



Daily Tip:
Excel: Add A Check Mark (Fast)

You can insert a check mark into a spreadsheet via the Symbols menu,
but a
fast way to do it is to select Wingdings (from the Font menu on the
Home tab
of the Ribbon), press the ALT key, and type 0252. Note that you must
use the
number pad. Another hint: scrolling all the way to Wingdings in the
Font
menu is a pain. Instead, click it and then type wi. You’re there:
Press
ENTER and your cursor returns to the page with the Wingdings font.

 Daily Term:
strikethrough

A feature in word processors by which a word or phrase has a line or
lines
drawn through it, indicating that the word or phrase should be
ignored or
deleted.
David Ferrin
"Beauty fades but dumbness is forever."
Judge Judy
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Re: [JAWS-Users] daily information

[Flor Lynch]

It does, in the Wingdings font anyway. In other circumstances - 
different fonts, etc. - that symbol

number represents a German o umlaut.

- Original Message - 
From: "jerry martin" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 1:39 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] daily information



Does the ALT number combination also work in MS Word 2007; and if not,
what is the ALT number combination for a checkmark?  Thanks.  Jerry
- Original Message - 
From: "David Ferrin" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 6:04 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] daily information



Daily Tip:
Excel: Add A Check Mark (Fast)

You can insert a check mark into a spreadsheet via the Symbols menu,
but a
fast way to do it is to select Wingdings (from the Font menu on the
Home tab
of the Ribbon), press the ALT key, and type 0252. Note that you must
use the
number pad. Another hint: scrolling all the way to Wingdings in the
Font
menu is a pain. Instead, click it and then type wi. You’re there:
Press
ENTER and your cursor returns to the page with the Wingdings font.

 Daily Term:
strikethrough

A feature in word processors by which a word or phrase has a line or
lines
drawn through it, indicating that the word or phrase should be
ignored or
deleted.
David Ferrin
"Beauty fades but dumbness is forever."
Judge Judy
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Re: [JAWS-Users] daily information

[David Ferrin]

I do not know since I don't have that version of office.
David Ferrin
"Beauty fades but dumbness is forever."
Judge Judy
- Original Message - 
From: "jerry martin" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 8:39 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] daily information


Does the ALT number combination also work in MS Word 2007; and if not, what
is the ALT number combination for a checkmark?  Thanks.  Jerry
- Original Message - 
From: "David Ferrin" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 6:04 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] daily information


> Daily Tip:
> Excel: Add A Check Mark (Fast)
>
> You can insert a check mark into a spreadsheet via the Symbols menu, but a
> fast way to do it is to select Wingdings (from the Font menu on the Home
> tab
> of the Ribbon), press the ALT key, and type 0252. Note that you must use
> the
> number pad. Another hint: scrolling all the way to Wingdings in the Font
> menu is a pain. Instead, click it and then type wi. You’re there: Press
> ENTER and your cursor returns to the page with the Wingdings font.
>
>  Daily Term:
> strikethrough
>
> A feature in word processors by which a word or phrase has a line or lines
> drawn through it, indicating that the word or phrase should be ignored or
> deleted.
> David Ferrin
> "Beauty fades but dumbness is forever."
> Judge Judy
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


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Re: [JAWS-Users] daily information

[jerry martin]

Does the ALT number combination also work in MS Word 2007; and if not, what 
is the ALT number combination for a checkmark?  Thanks.  Jerry
- Original Message - 
From: "David Ferrin" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 6:04 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] daily information



Daily Tip:
Excel: Add A Check Mark (Fast)

You can insert a check mark into a spreadsheet via the Symbols menu, but a
fast way to do it is to select Wingdings (from the Font menu on the Home 
tab
of the Ribbon), press the ALT key, and type 0252. Note that you must use 
the

number pad. Another hint: scrolling all the way to Wingdings in the Font
menu is a pain. Instead, click it and then type wi. You’re there: Press
ENTER and your cursor returns to the page with the Wingdings font.

 Daily Term:
strikethrough

A feature in word processors by which a word or phrase has a line or lines
drawn through it, indicating that the word or phrase should be ignored or
deleted.
David Ferrin
"Beauty fades but dumbness is forever."
Judge Judy
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.

[tim]

Try using windows search and give it the file name or just use *.pdf. 
That should bring up all of them on the computer and tell you where 
if its listed, and if not try to download again.


At 09:52 PM 2/6/2012, you wrote:

I could not find it.
I was in "My Docs" and opened up my received files and it was empty.
Then, I went to my C drive and found "my downloads" but the image 
was not there.


Any other thoughts on where I could look?
For some reason, I don't think the download went through. I tried it twice.

Thanks.

rich
- Original Message - From: "tim" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 8:38 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.


Try looking in download folder. You have to install it to see it in 
other places.


At 09:24 PM 2/5/2012, you wrote:

Thanks for the suggestion.
I found a web site that had image for windows with a free 30 day trial.
http://download.cnet.com/Image-for-Windows/3000-2242_4-10149389.html
I clicked on the download link and after it announced 100 % there 
was no other information on what to do.

I could not find the program in my docs or programs.
How would I know if I actually downloaded it?

Rich
- Original Message - From: "Steve" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 5:51 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.



Image For Windows is good.
- Original Message - From: "rich" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.



Thanks for the info.
What program do you recommend to take an image for back up?
By the way, when the problem began, my sighted wife said the 
mouse would not work as well as the keyboard.
I had not made any changes to the configuration manager prior to 
the problem.

Interestingly, after rebooting, Microsoft ran a "check disc"?
Thanks again.

Rich
- Original Message - From: "Steve" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 12:08 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.


Ok, lets start with selective startup.  There's nothing wrong 
with using selective startup, that's what I do to keep extra 
programs that aren't necessary from loading.


I can't figure out why you said the keyboard wasn't working, 
but I can educatedly guess why Jaws wasn't working.  I'll bet 
somehow you unchecked the REaltech sound manager from loading 
by mistake.  That will kill sound every time after Windows 
loads.  So the bottom line, when you go through the startup 
list, make sure you know which programs you are unchecking so 
you don't dump one that might be system critical, as the sound 
manager is for us, and of course, as an anti-virus program is.


As to your second question, your Outlook Express files are 
stored under your documents and settings, Username, Local 
Settings, application Data, Identities, alphanumeric string, 
Microsoft, Outlook Express folder. Unless you have Task and 
Folder options set to show hidden files, you won't see these files.


However, if you set up your backup solution to backup your 
Documents and Settings folder, it will back up your OE .dbx files as well.


The other type of backup you can use of course is a program 
that takes an image of your hard drive and stores it on 
external media.  The image will restore everything if there is 
a severe crash, including the Windows System and all your 
installed programs.  You don't have to do image files as often, 
but you should back up your data in the Documents and Settings 
folder more often, as that likely changes on a daily basis.
"Government is the great fiction, through which everybody 
endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else."

-Frederic Bastiat

Steve
Lansing, MI


- Original Message - From: "Rich Hamel" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 11:31 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.



Thanks all!! You guys really helped me on this one.
I've seemed to have gotten the computer working with your help.

To complete, I went in to msconfig and noticed that 
"selective" start was checked. My other options were "normal" 
and one other one.

What should be checked?
That computer is XP home.
My second computer is XP pro and when I checked , all 3 
options said "checked".

The main computer would only allow one option to be checked.

Another question.
I have, I think, an external hard drive to back up information.
I am able to copy the C drive in to this but, I am not sure 
how or if I can copy my e mails from Outlook Express.

When in O E, the options to copy to folders were for folders within O E.

So, how can I back up e mails?

Thanks again for all of the help.

Rich
- Original Message - From: "Steve" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 9:23 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.



Rich,


First, try starting your computer and hitting the f8 key 
until you get a dialog menu.  Try booting into safe mode.


Check out the following microsoft article.  It has several 
methods you can

[JAWS-Users] daily information

[David Ferrin]

Daily Tip:
Excel: Add A Check Mark (Fast)

You can insert a check mark into a spreadsheet via the Symbols menu, but a 
fast way to do it is to select Wingdings (from the Font menu on the Home tab 
of the Ribbon), press the ALT key, and type 0252. Note that you must use the 
number pad. Another hint: scrolling all the way to Wingdings in the Font 
menu is a pain. Instead, click it and then type wi. You’re there: Press 
ENTER and your cursor returns to the page with the Wingdings font.

  Daily Term:
strikethrough

A feature in word processors by which a word or phrase has a line or lines 
drawn through it, indicating that the word or phrase should be ignored or 
deleted.
David Ferrin
"Beauty fades but dumbness is forever."
Judge Judy 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] frames

[Flor Lynch]

No. the keystroke for frames is JAWSKey+9.

- Original Message - 
From: "justin williams" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 4:11 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] frames


Hit the letter m to go from frame to frame.  Put them in a list with 
insert

f9.

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From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com

[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Dan Rossi
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 11:10 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] frames

Miriam,

It is my experience that you don't get into and out of a frame.  You 
can
just arrow down the page and you will hear something like FRAME NAME, 
then

all the stuff in that frame, then end of frame.


You don't have to do anything special to enter it.  Just by moving 
down with

your virtual cursor, you enter and exit it.

Some frames are emtpy so there really isn't anything in them to 
navigate to.


You can use the m key to jump around the page by frames, then when you 
get

to the frame you want, just start arrowing down.

--
Blue skies.
Dan Rossi
Carnegie Mellon University.
E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu
Tel: (412) 268-9081

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