Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10 could mean things stopworking at anytime. Dan's tip for June 25 2015

2015-06-26 Thread Trish
George,

I just sent this to the list as way of informational, I am sticking with 
Window's 7 for now.
If in the near future I upgrade to anything, it will be a Mac system.

  - Original Message - 
  From: TheHangMan 
  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 
  Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 5:06 PM
  Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10 could mean things 
stopworking at anytime. Dan's tip for June 25 2015


  Hi trish,
  Thank you for this mail.

  I'm going 10 Pro on my 2 laptops and say, 'later to 7.'
  Got to stay running with the horses,
  I notice you're up there in the pack.

  Jorge


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Behalf Of Trish
  Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 11:06 AM
  To: Jaws-users-list
  Subject: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10 could mean things stop working 
at anytime. Dan's tip for June 25 2015


  Upgrading to Windows 10 could mean things stop working at anytime June 22, 
2015 by 22 Point

   

  Windows 10 logo

  I’m excited about the upcoming release of Windows 10 – which is good, since 
I’m writing a book on Windows 10 (Please E-Mail me to subscribe to my E-Mail 
list to be in the know as soon as it’s released). 

  You will find an email link at the URL just below.

  
https://22point.wordpress.com/2015/06/22/upgrading-to-windows-10-could-mean-things-stop-working-at-anytime/

   

   

  I think the return of the start menu is a fantastic thing. I am looking 
forward to the voice activation features Cortana will bring (even if they’ll 
only be available to several countries at launch), and I’m ambitious about the 
possibilities of the new Windows Store making it safe again for people to 
download addon software without extra addons they didn’t ask for (see this 
warning about every major Windows freeware site 

  Found here:

  
http://www.howtogeek.com/207692/yes-every-freeware-download-site-is-serving-crapware-heres-the-proof/

   

   

  and this warning about Sourceforge 

  
http://www.howtogeek.com/218764/warning-don%e2%80%99t-download-software-from-sourceforge-if-you-can-help-it/

   

  and this warning about ‘free’ Anti-virus software – 

   

  
http://www.howtogeek.com/218675/beware-free-antivirus-isnt-really-free-anymore/

   

  in fact, while you’re on HowToGeek, and if you only read one article, make it 
this article about 12 common PC myths with references those others as well).

  http://www.howtogeek.com/219555/12-of-the-biggest-pc-myths-that-just-wont-die/

   

   

  I do however, have one big reservation about Windows 10, which will resonate 
with anyone who has been through a major system update and uses adaptive 
technology (third party software which makes the PC accessible to those with 
various disabilities) – and indeed for anyone who relies heavily on any piece 
of third party software. Microsoft have announced that as part of the Windows 
10 experience you won’t be able to delay updates in Windows 10 home edition. 

  Read more here:

  https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-10-specifications

   

  Windows 10 will come in a range of flavours, much like the versions before 
it, so if you are using Windows 7 or 8 home, you’ll get a free update to 
Windows 10 home. If you’re using Windows 7 or 8 Pro, then you’ll get the update 
to Windows 10 Pro. While traditionally, Windows updates have mostly been 
security patches and bug fixes, with the occasional Service Pack which might 
introduce some new functionality, Microsoft have generally held over on major 
system and interface updates for new releases of Windows.

  Now however, Microsoft have announced that Windows 10 will be the last 
version of Windows – 

  http://www.theverge.com/2015/5/7/8568473/windows-10-last-version-of-windows

   

  meaning that instead of bringing in new features in a few years and 
repackaging the lot in a major update called say Windows 11, Microsoft will 
simply add these features as they are developed into your regular Windows 
updates. On the one hand this has the potential to be really handy – One day 
suddenly new options and settings will appear, Cortana will work in Australia, 
and other things will be changed and improved. But will that always be a good 
thing? Imagine if you were happily using Windows 7 and then one day got a 
Windows update you couldn’t defer and all of a sudden you lost the start menu 
and had the Windows 8 metro tile interface? With user interface and feature 
enhancements being brought into regular Windows updates, it is possible. Since 
in Windows 10 home edition, you won’t be able to defer updates, 

  
http://www.howtogeek.com/219166/you-won%E2%80%99t-be-able-to-disable-or-delay-windows-updates-on-windows-10-home/

   

  you won’t be able to do much about it if it does happen. With Windows 10 
Professional, and Windows 10 Enterprise, users have the option of taking 
updates after a few months, only after they’ve been extensively 

[JAWS-Users] McAfee web advisor

2015-06-26 Thread anna vimini

Hi all using McAfee internet security suite,,
Everything updated fine except my web advisor.
so my question is,
Is this the right version for web advisor:
birsion 4.0
build  4.00.274
AffId: 91020
thanks in advance

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Re: [JAWS-Users] messed up a computer with malware

2015-06-26 Thread Lenny McHugh
will give that a try this evening when she gets home. I do not think it will 
work but worth the try. Last night I had her try to search for IE and run it 
but it could not find her wifi.


-Original Message- 
From: Humberto Rodriguez

Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 9:46 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] messed up a computer with malware

Hello Lenny:

Have you tried going to c:\program files\Internet Explorer\iexplorer.exe  to 
start IE from there?  If that works, just make a shortcut to it for the 
desktop, or pin it to the Start Menu or Task Bar.


Humberto


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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Lenny McHugh

Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 11:16 PM
To: JFW List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] messed up a computer with malware

I have never seen this before. My grandson’s girlfriends computer was
running extremely slow and I was asked to help. What a mistake. I first did
disk cleanup and internet options to delete history etc. This made no change
but removed over a gig of junk. I then had her download malware bytes and
run it.
It located 1,052 infections and removed them. It removed browser.exe and she
can now not get on the internet. She is using a wireless card. It looks like
her network is still there but the short cuts to internet explorer or her
email are gone.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Outlook Freezes

2015-06-26 Thread Mario
if this has been mentioned already, nnext to the power bbutton is a 
reset/restart button usually smaller and sometimes flush or recessed. 
use it instead of doing a forced shutdown.




On 6/25/2015 11:00 PM, TheHangMan wrote:

 Hi,

I'm sure this happens a lot out there.

  


And the PC doesn't want to do anything and you're force to do a shut down.

  


Since, jaws is not responding, is there a way to do a restart, instead of
shutting down???

  


Thanks,

  

  
Jorge


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Re: [JAWS-Users] VIPRE 2015 not in systray

2015-06-26 Thread Rick Justice
It may be necessary to change the settings for it in the notification area 
before it shows in the system tray.

HTH,
Rick Justice

- Original Message - 
From: Michael Boyd mike@comcast.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 12:53 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] VIPRE 2015 not in systray


Yes, it should be there, if it installed properly. It has always appeared in
my system tray. Open the program and check that you do have the virus
protection enabled, if this is not checked off, then it may not show up
there.

Mike
mike@comcast.net


-Original Message- 
From: Mario
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 11:53 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] VIPRE 2015 not in systray

what do I have to do? it should show up, should it not after it gets
installed?
running 7 64 bit, JAWS 14.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] VIPRE 2015 not in systray

2015-06-26 Thread Mario
Mike, being a bit concerned, I checked security in the action center and 
discovered that the firewall in use is the windows firewall, but the 
vipre firewall is listed but is turned off. the AV is vipre's.


I'm not sure if I should call tech support or just execute the offline 
installer, or uninstall what's already installed and run the installer 
again?




On 6/26/2015 12:53 AM, Michael Boyd wrote:
Yes, it should be there, if it installed properly. It has always 
appeared in my system tray. Open the program and check that you do 
have the virus protection enabled, if this is not checked off, then it 
may not show up there.


Mike
mike@comcast.net


-Original Message- From: Mario
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 11:53 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] VIPRE 2015 not in systray

what do I have to do? it should show up, should it not after it gets
installed?
running 7 64 bit, JAWS 14.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] VIPRE 2015 not in systray

2015-06-26 Thread Mario

Rick, I looked there but there's no listitem for VIPRE.


On 6/26/2015 9:23 AM, Rick Justice wrote:

It may be necessary to change the settings for it in the notification area
before it shows in the system tray.

HTH,
Rick Justice

- Original Message -
From: Michael Boyd mike@comcast.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 12:53 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] VIPRE 2015 not in systray


Yes, it should be there, if it installed properly. It has always appeared in
my system tray. Open the program and check that you do have the virus
protection enabled, if this is not checked off, then it may not show up
there.

Mike
mike@comcast.net


-Original Message-
From: Mario
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 11:53 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] VIPRE 2015 not in systray

what do I have to do? it should show up, should it not after it gets
installed?
running 7 64 bit, JAWS 14.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] messed up a computer with malware

2015-06-26 Thread Humberto Rodriguez
Is the wi-fi connected?  Insert-F11 will show you the System Tray and the 
wireless connection should be there.

Humberto


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Lenny McHugh
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 10:03 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] messed up a computer with malware

will give that a try this evening when she gets home. I do not think it will 
work but worth the try. Last night I had her try to search for IE and run it 
but it could not find her wifi.

-Original Message- 
From: Humberto Rodriguez
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 9:46 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] messed up a computer with malware

Hello Lenny:

Have you tried going to c:\program files\Internet Explorer\iexplorer.exe  to 
start IE from there?  If that works, just make a shortcut to it for the 
desktop, or pin it to the Start Menu or Task Bar.

Humberto


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Lenny McHugh
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 11:16 PM
To: JFW List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] messed up a computer with malware

I have never seen this before. My grandson’s girlfriends computer was
running extremely slow and I was asked to help. What a mistake. I first did
disk cleanup and internet options to delete history etc. This made no change
but removed over a gig of junk. I then had her download malware bytes and
run it.
It located 1,052 infections and removed them. It removed browser.exe and she
can now not get on the internet. She is using a wireless card. It looks like
her network is still there but the short cuts to internet explorer or her
email are gone.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] reserve battery

2015-06-26 Thread TheHangMan
Hi,
It's just an idiot light reminder, like in a car to service your engine and
you today change the oil and is full.
Just use the pc, until the low battery alert sounds again.

Press insert + F11 and arrow down and check your battery level.

Maybe you have a bad power strip.

Doctor Hangman



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Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 8:22 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] reserve battery

Hi, when I start my computer, I get this funny sound right after 
loggin in.  I then get Jaws professional. Then I get this 
message Reserve battery, please plug your computer or find a 
power source.  Your battery is at #0 minutes, 95 percent. If my 
battery time falls down (to less than an hour, I get this alert.  
Yet checking the power status the time remaining always chandes, 
but  it's at the 2 hour to 4 hour intervals.  What does reserve 
battery mean?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Can't Enter Text Into Forms Mode Edit Field

2015-06-26 Thread wayne smith
When you are in an edit box have you tried pressing the Numb Pad Enter key
to activate the field?

Wayne

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 07:07 PM
To: Jaws users list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Can't Enter Text Into Forms Mode EditField

Hello, everyone.

 

I'm still having issues typing characters into the edit box when on the
internet with my  home Windows 7 PC.

 

I can arrow down or tab until I hear the forms mode sound, but when I type,
nothing gets entered into the edit box.

 

I had someone sighted check, and nothing gets entered onto the screen when I
do the typing in forms mode, even though the sound indicates I'm in forms
mode.

 

I find the issue both in Internet Explorer and in Firefox.  And, I have
tried performing searches on several different web sites where info needs to
be entered into the search box.

 

 

Is there a Jaws or other setting I should check to troubleshoot the issue?

 

For the record, I'm using Jaws 14 on this particular computer.

 

Thank you!

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

 

 



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Can't Enter Text Into Forms Mode Edit Field

2015-06-26 Thread Tom Behler
No, I have not tried this, and will certainly do so when I am back home at
the computer in question.


However, I actually think my problem is more significant than this, as
viewed by the folks at FS, with whom I am now working.

Will keep you posted.

Dr.  Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of wayne smith
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 2:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can't Enter Text Into Forms Mode Edit Field

When you are in an edit box have you tried pressing the Numb Pad Enter key
to activate the field?

Wayne

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 07:07 PM
To: Jaws users list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Can't Enter Text Into Forms Mode EditField

Hello, everyone.

 

I'm still having issues typing characters into the edit box when on the
internet with my  home Windows 7 PC.

 

I can arrow down or tab until I hear the forms mode sound, but when I type,
nothing gets entered into the edit box.

 

I had someone sighted check, and nothing gets entered onto the screen when I
do the typing in forms mode, even though the sound indicates I'm in forms
mode.

 

I find the issue both in Internet Explorer and in Firefox.  And, I have
tried performing searches on several different web sites where info needs to
be entered into the search box.

 

 

Is there a Jaws or other setting I should check to troubleshoot the issue?

 

For the record, I'm using Jaws 14 on this particular computer.

 

Thank you!

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

 

 



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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS-Users] Does anyone know about Qihoo 360?

2015-06-26 Thread Jo Luland
Does anyone on this list use Qihoo 360? If so, is it compatible with JAWS 
16? Any thoughts will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] saving word documents

2015-06-26 Thread LeDon
Thankyou very much, Mike,  for these very excellent instructions.  LeDon. 

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Michael B.
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 12:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] saving word documents

Hi LeDon,

To choose where your saved documents are saved to, try the following:
1. While in Word press, Alt + T, for tools  the letter, O, for options.
2. Navigate to the Send tab / page.
3. Tab several times to, Default File Location,  this tells you where your
saved documents are currently being saved to.
4. Now, tab 1 more time to the, Browse button,  press the spacebar.  You
can type the file path into the edit field where you want your files saved
to, or keep tabbing to the Tree View  navigate to where you want your files
saved to.
5. After you have selected your default file location tab to Okay  press
enter to save  close.
6. Now go bac into Tools / Options / Save  tab to Default File Location 
make sure your files are going to be saved where you want them.  If it's not
correct you have to do the browse experience all over again.
HTH
Take care.
Mike
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To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 9:03 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] saving word documents


Can someone please tell me how to change where MS  word ten  saves your
document.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Can't Enter Text Into Forms Mode Edit Field

2015-06-26 Thread Tom Behler
George:

I did this, but had no luck.

No text gets entered into the edit field, even though I get the forms mode
click.

I confirmed this with sighted assistance.

Even  though Jaws indicates I'm in forms mode, my cursor is obviously
somewhere else.

This problem is especially significant in Internet Explorer 11.

Dr.  Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of TheHangMan
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 2:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can't Enter Text Into Forms Mode Edit Field

Hi,
Try tabbing through the edit fields, then type on the box, you have to type
in.

Jorge


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 2:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can't Enter Text Into Forms Mode Edit Field

No, I have not tried this, and will certainly do so when I am back home at
the computer in question.


However, I actually think my problem is more significant than this, as
viewed by the folks at FS, with whom I am now working.

Will keep you posted.

Dr.  Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of wayne smith
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 2:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can't Enter Text Into Forms Mode Edit Field

When you are in an edit box have you tried pressing the Numb Pad Enter key
to activate the field?

Wayne

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 07:07 PM
To: Jaws users list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Can't Enter Text Into Forms Mode EditField

Hello, everyone.

 

I'm still having issues typing characters into the edit box when on the
internet with my  home Windows 7 PC.

 

I can arrow down or tab until I hear the forms mode sound, but when I type,
nothing gets entered into the edit box.

 

I had someone sighted check, and nothing gets entered onto the screen when I
do the typing in forms mode, even though the sound indicates I'm in forms
mode.

 

I find the issue both in Internet Explorer and in Firefox.  And, I have
tried performing searches on several different web sites where info needs to
be entered into the search box.

 

 

Is there a Jaws or other setting I should check to troubleshoot the issue?

 

For the record, I'm using Jaws 14 on this particular computer.

 

Thank you!

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

 

 



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Can't Enter Text Into Forms Mode Edit Field

2015-06-26 Thread Tom Behler
George:

I did this, but no text gets entered.

I confirmed this with sighted assistance.

I get the forms mode click, but my cursor is somewhere else.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of TheHangMan
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 2:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can't Enter Text Into Forms Mode Edit Field

Hi,
Try tabbing through the edit fields, then type on the box, you have to type
in.

Jorge


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 2:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can't Enter Text Into Forms Mode Edit Field

No, I have not tried this, and will certainly do so when I am back home at
the computer in question.


However, I actually think my problem is more significant than this, as
viewed by the folks at FS, with whom I am now working.

Will keep you posted.

Dr.  Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of wayne smith
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 2:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can't Enter Text Into Forms Mode Edit Field

When you are in an edit box have you tried pressing the Numb Pad Enter key
to activate the field?

Wayne

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 07:07 PM
To: Jaws users list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Can't Enter Text Into Forms Mode EditField

Hello, everyone.

 

I'm still having issues typing characters into the edit box when on the
internet with my  home Windows 7 PC.

 

I can arrow down or tab until I hear the forms mode sound, but when I type,
nothing gets entered into the edit box.

 

I had someone sighted check, and nothing gets entered onto the screen when I
do the typing in forms mode, even though the sound indicates I'm in forms
mode.

 

I find the issue both in Internet Explorer and in Firefox.  And, I have
tried performing searches on several different web sites where info needs to
be entered into the search box.

 

 

Is there a Jaws or other setting I should check to troubleshoot the issue?

 

For the record, I'm using Jaws 14 on this particular computer.

 

Thank you!

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

 

 



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Outlook Freezes

2015-06-26 Thread Jim Pursley
Talking about tower desktop.  i only use the forced restart button as a 
last resort but it's probably preferable to anything more drastic.


On 6/26/2015 6:14 PM, TheHangMan wrote:

Hi,
Are you talking:
  on a tower in a  regular desktop computer?
  Or, on a laptop?   I had someone check and that was a NEGATIVE...

Jorge
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jim Pursley
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 9:37 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Outlook Freezes

I think that the keyboard command restart is preferable to the forced
restart by pressing the small button in the vicinity of the son-off
switch.  When I have been forced because of a locked keyboard to use the
forced restart, I always get a non-JAWS readable Windows screen from
which I must choose the restart option - normal or safe mode and one other.

On 6/26/2015 10:14 AM, Mario wrote:

if this has been mentioned already, nnext to the power bbutton is a
reset/restart button usually smaller and sometimes flush or recessed.
use it instead of doing a forced shutdown.



On 6/25/2015 11:00 PM, TheHangMan wrote:

  Hi,

I'm sure this happens a lot out there.


And the PC doesn't want to do anything and you're force to do a shut
down.


Since, jaws is not responding, is there a way to do a restart,
instead of
shutting down???


Thanks,


   Jorge

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Re: [JAWS-Users] VIPRE 2015 not in systray

2015-06-26 Thread Michael Boyd

Mario,

You should be able to open Vipre, go to the Firewall tab, and then check the 
box to enable the firewall in the program. It is pretty simple. You are 
running the Internet Security software Right? The Antivirus package does not 
include the firewall. This is really the only difference between the two 
packages.


Mike
mike@comcast.net


-Original Message- 
From: Mario

Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 8:35 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] VIPRE 2015 not in systray

Mike, being a bit concerned, I checked security in the action center and
discovered that the firewall in use is the windows firewall, but the
vipre firewall is listed but is turned off. the AV is vipre's.

I'm not sure if I should call tech support or just execute the offline
installer, or uninstall what's already installed and run the installer
again?



On 6/26/2015 12:53 AM, Michael Boyd wrote:
Yes, it should be there, if it installed properly. It has always appeared 
in my system tray. Open the program and check that you do have the virus 
protection enabled, if this is not checked off, then it may not show up 
there.


Mike
mike@comcast.net


-Original Message- From: Mario
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 11:53 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] VIPRE 2015 not in systray

what do I have to do? it should show up, should it not after it gets
installed?
running 7 64 bit, JAWS 14.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS-Users] Does anyone know about Qihoo 360?

2015-06-26 Thread Kevin Lee
I tried it once it is accessible , but I had no idea if the virus 
definitions were up to date

plus I had no idea if anything was found a threat or something
I also had troubles updating.
somebody else on the list may have better input, this is just my 2 cents!

-Original Message- 
From: Jo Luland

Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 11:49 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS-Users] Does anyone know about Qihoo 360?

Does anyone on this list use Qihoo 360? If so, is it compatible with JAWS
16? Any thoughts will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Outlook Freezes

2015-06-26 Thread TheHangMan
Mario,
Of course, this is on a laptop, right?
There is no reset key on the Dell Latitude near the power button.

When, outlooks freezes, so does jaws.
Next time, I'll try dumping jaws and I bet you the key command is going to
do nothing.

Jorge


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 9:14 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Outlook Freezes

if this has been mentioned already, nnext to the power bbutton is a 
reset/restart button usually smaller and sometimes flush or recessed. 
use it instead of doing a forced shutdown.



On 6/25/2015 11:00 PM, TheHangMan wrote:
  Hi,

 I'm sure this happens a lot out there.

   

 And the PC doesn't want to do anything and you're force to do a shut down.

   

 Since, jaws is not responding, is there a way to do a restart, instead of
 shutting down???

   

 Thanks,

   

   
 Jorge

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Re: [JAWS-Users] messed up a computer with malware

2015-06-26 Thread TheHangMan
Lenny,
The PC, if it's a laptop has a wireless external switch and an internal one too.
That's the one, which is hard to access,
Depending on the type of laptop it is,

There is a key command like the FN key + F2 + F10, for example that will allow 
you to turn it on/off.
Can anyone help on the correct command please. 

Jorge

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Humberto Rodriguez
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 10:05 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] messed up a computer with malware

Is the wi-fi connected?  Insert-F11 will show you the System Tray and the 
wireless connection should be there.

Humberto


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Lenny McHugh
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 10:03 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] messed up a computer with malware

will give that a try this evening when she gets home. I do not think it will 
work but worth the try. Last night I had her try to search for IE and run it 
but it could not find her wifi.

-Original Message- 
From: Humberto Rodriguez
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 9:46 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] messed up a computer with malware

Hello Lenny:

Have you tried going to c:\program files\Internet Explorer\iexplorer.exe  to 
start IE from there?  If that works, just make a shortcut to it for the 
desktop, or pin it to the Start Menu or Task Bar.

Humberto


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Behalf Of Lenny McHugh
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 11:16 PM
To: JFW List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] messed up a computer with malware

I have never seen this before. My grandson’s girlfriends computer was
running extremely slow and I was asked to help. What a mistake. I first did
disk cleanup and internet options to delete history etc. This made no change
but removed over a gig of junk. I then had her download malware bytes and
run it.
It located 1,052 infections and removed them. It removed browser.exe and she
can now not get on the internet. She is using a wireless card. It looks like
her network is still there but the short cuts to internet explorer or her
email are gone.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] messed up a computer with malware

2015-06-26 Thread Lenny McHugh

It is a desktop with a wireless card.

-Original Message- 
From: TheHangMan

Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 4:16 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] messed up a computer with malware

Lenny,
The PC, if it's a laptop has a wireless external switch and an internal one 
too.

That's the one, which is hard to access,
Depending on the type of laptop it is,

There is a key command like the FN key + F2 + F10, for example that will 
allow you to turn it on/off.

Can anyone help on the correct command please.

Jorge

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Humberto Rodriguez

Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 10:05 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] messed up a computer with malware

Is the wi-fi connected?  Insert-F11 will show you the System Tray and the 
wireless connection should be there.


Humberto


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Lenny McHugh

Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 10:03 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] messed up a computer with malware

will give that a try this evening when she gets home. I do not think it will
work but worth the try. Last night I had her try to search for IE and run it
but it could not find her wifi.

-Original Message- 
From: Humberto Rodriguez

Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 9:46 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] messed up a computer with malware

Hello Lenny:

Have you tried going to c:\program files\Internet Explorer\iexplorer.exe  to
start IE from there?  If that works, just make a shortcut to it for the
desktop, or pin it to the Start Menu or Task Bar.

Humberto


-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Lenny McHugh
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 11:16 PM
To: JFW List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] messed up a computer with malware

I have never seen this before. My grandson’s girlfriends computer was
running extremely slow and I was asked to help. What a mistake. I first did
disk cleanup and internet options to delete history etc. This made no change
but removed over a gig of junk. I then had her download malware bytes and
run it.
It located 1,052 infections and removed them. It removed browser.exe and she
can now not get on the internet. She is using a wireless card. It looks like
her network is still there but the short cuts to internet explorer or her
email are gone.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] messed up a computer with malware

2015-06-26 Thread Kevin Lee
the hot key is f12 depending on if the laptop allows to disable the fn key 
in the bios such as an hp laptop.


-Original Message- 
From: TheHangMan

Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 1:16 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] messed up a computer with malware

Lenny,
The PC, if it's a laptop has a wireless external switch and an internal one 
too.

That's the one, which is hard to access,
Depending on the type of laptop it is,

There is a key command like the FN key + F2 + F10, for example that will 
allow you to turn it on/off.

Can anyone help on the correct command please.

Jorge

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Humberto Rodriguez

Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 10:05 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] messed up a computer with malware

Is the wi-fi connected?  Insert-F11 will show you the System Tray and the 
wireless connection should be there.


Humberto


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Lenny McHugh

Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 10:03 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] messed up a computer with malware

will give that a try this evening when she gets home. I do not think it will
work but worth the try. Last night I had her try to search for IE and run it
but it could not find her wifi.

-Original Message- 
From: Humberto Rodriguez

Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 9:46 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] messed up a computer with malware

Hello Lenny:

Have you tried going to c:\program files\Internet Explorer\iexplorer.exe  to
start IE from there?  If that works, just make a shortcut to it for the
desktop, or pin it to the Start Menu or Task Bar.

Humberto


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Lenny McHugh
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 11:16 PM
To: JFW List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] messed up a computer with malware

I have never seen this before. My grandson’s girlfriends computer was
running extremely slow and I was asked to help. What a mistake. I first did
disk cleanup and internet options to delete history etc. This made no change
but removed over a gig of junk. I then had her download malware bytes and
run it.
It located 1,052 infections and removed them. It removed browser.exe and she
can now not get on the internet. She is using a wireless card. It looks like
her network is still there but the short cuts to internet explorer or her
email are gone.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] one drive

2015-06-26 Thread wayne smith
Going back over missed messages and I wonder if One Drive can automatically
backup my harddrive like Carbonite?  I want to have a external backup but I
don't want one that deletes anything from storage that is no longer on the C
drive so I can store things that I do not need all the time.  What is your
take.
Equally important, have you tried a brand of ice cream called Hudsonville?
My wife just discovered it by accident and boy is it creamy and the flavors
explode on your budd.  It can't however, be detected by JAWS, at least not
yet.

Waynes

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 09:08 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] one drive

I just signed up for the service this evening and downloaded the application
although it is too late to do any installing. My question is how usable is
this thing? 

 

Note there is one of those graphic things with stuff for you to type in the
box before the sign up process will complete. Annoying but not impossible.
There is an audio option but fortunately my wife was able to figure out the
letters. 

 

I just have no desire to fiddle with such things when there are so many more
things in life to worry about like is my ice cream supply stocked or not. 

David Ferrin
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Outlook Freezes

2015-06-26 Thread TheHangMan
Hi,
Are you talking:
 on a tower in a  regular desktop computer?
 Or, on a laptop?   I had someone check and that was a NEGATIVE...

Jorge
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jim Pursley
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 9:37 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Outlook Freezes

I think that the keyboard command restart is preferable to the forced 
restart by pressing the small button in the vicinity of the son-off 
switch.  When I have been forced because of a locked keyboard to use the 
forced restart, I always get a non-JAWS readable Windows screen from 
which I must choose the restart option - normal or safe mode and one other.

On 6/26/2015 10:14 AM, Mario wrote:
 if this has been mentioned already, nnext to the power bbutton is a 
 reset/restart button usually smaller and sometimes flush or recessed. 
 use it instead of doing a forced shutdown.



 On 6/25/2015 11:00 PM, TheHangMan wrote:
  Hi,

 I'm sure this happens a lot out there.


 And the PC doesn't want to do anything and you're force to do a shut 
 down.


 Since, jaws is not responding, is there a way to do a restart, 
 instead of
 shutting down???


 Thanks,


   Jorge

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[JAWS-Users] vipre 2016 antivirus

2015-06-26 Thread Kevin Lee
I saw on the threat track security website that vipre 2016 is in the beta stage 
anyone know anything about that, more jaws compatible ?
Email is golden!!!
Kevin Lee
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Latest JFW 16 update and eloquence pausing

2015-06-26 Thread Don Queen
I am having problems with a pause and blank page  announcement. Very
brief, but I would like a quicker response.
Don 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rose Combs
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 5:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Latest JFW 16 update and eloquence pausing

I am having no problems with the latest update, Window 7, IE 11, Office
2010.  


Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com
A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the
memory!


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Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 11:55 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Latest JFW 16 update and eloquence pausing

Yes, me!

I do that jaws dump command to bring it back as it seems to pause for a long
while, and I'm using ie 11.

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Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 9:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Latest JFW 16 update and eloquence pausing

Hello list,

So, adding to the list of issues discussed here with the latest JFW update
from earlier in the week, I am noticing that Jaws is pausing every now and
then when I’m making my way around webpages in Firefox. I use FF as my
primary browser so haven’t had the need to play with IE. 

It mainly happens when I’m navigating around sites with the read by
paragraph, line, word or character commands. At first, I thought it may have
been an issue to a particular webpage, but as I’ve been moving around
online, I’m coming across it on all sorts of sites. It’s enough of a
hesitation where it interrupts one’s flow of getting around webpages. 

Is anyone else experiencing this annoying issue with the latest Jaws update?

 

Thanks,

Cristobal

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Re: [JAWS-Users] sorting largest files / programs to clean up desktop?

2015-06-26 Thread Ann Marie Medlar

I use XP Jaws 15.
I store most things on my external drive.
But my C drive seems very full so how might I sort programs/ folders / files 
in descending order to find out what is taking up the most space?  Or any 
helpful command is appreciated.

Thanks,
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Re: [JAWS-Users] messed up a computer with malware

2015-06-26 Thread TheHangMan
Roberto,
Thanks for that idea and will save it.

Jorge
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Lenny McHugh
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 10:03 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] messed up a computer with malware

will give that a try this evening when she gets home. I do not think it will 
work but worth the try. Last night I had her try to search for IE and run it 
but it could not find her wifi.

-Original Message- 
From: Humberto Rodriguez
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 9:46 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] messed up a computer with malware

Hello Lenny:

Have you tried going to c:\program files\Internet Explorer\iexplorer.exe  to 
start IE from there?  If that works, just make a shortcut to it for the 
desktop, or pin it to the Start Menu or Task Bar.

Humberto


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Lenny McHugh
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 11:16 PM
To: JFW List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] messed up a computer with malware

I have never seen this before. My grandson’s girlfriends computer was
running extremely slow and I was asked to help. What a mistake. I first did
disk cleanup and internet options to delete history etc. This made no change
but removed over a gig of junk. I then had her download malware bytes and
run it.
It located 1,052 infections and removed them. It removed browser.exe and she
can now not get on the internet. She is using a wireless card. It looks like
her network is still there but the short cuts to internet explorer or her
email are gone.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Can't Enter Text Into Forms Mode Edit Field

2015-06-26 Thread TheHangMan
Hi,
Try tabbing through the edit fields, then type on the box, you have to type
in.

Jorge


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Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 2:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can't Enter Text Into Forms Mode Edit Field

No, I have not tried this, and will certainly do so when I am back home at
the computer in question.


However, I actually think my problem is more significant than this, as
viewed by the folks at FS, with whom I am now working.

Will keep you posted.

Dr.  Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of wayne smith
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 2:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can't Enter Text Into Forms Mode Edit Field

When you are in an edit box have you tried pressing the Numb Pad Enter key
to activate the field?

Wayne

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 07:07 PM
To: Jaws users list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Can't Enter Text Into Forms Mode EditField

Hello, everyone.

 

I'm still having issues typing characters into the edit box when on the
internet with my  home Windows 7 PC.

 

I can arrow down or tab until I hear the forms mode sound, but when I type,
nothing gets entered into the edit box.

 

I had someone sighted check, and nothing gets entered onto the screen when I
do the typing in forms mode, even though the sound indicates I'm in forms
mode.

 

I find the issue both in Internet Explorer and in Firefox.  And, I have
tried performing searches on several different web sites where info needs to
be entered into the search box.

 

 

Is there a Jaws or other setting I should check to troubleshoot the issue?

 

For the record, I'm using Jaws 14 on this particular computer.

 

Thank you!

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

 

 



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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS-Users] Does anyone know about Qihoo 360?

2015-06-26 Thread Gerald Levy


I installed this anti-virus program about a year ago, and it completely 
messed up my computer.  Fortunately, I was able to uninstall it and restore 
things to normal.  Try it at your own risk.


Gerald


- Original Message - 
From: Jo Luland jolul...@verizon.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 2:49 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS-Users] Does anyone know about Qihoo 360?


Does anyone on this list use Qihoo 360? If so, is it compatible with JAWS 
16? Any thoughts will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Jo

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Keyboard Configurations With Jaws

2015-06-26 Thread Kevin Lee
I'm not argueing with you Rick, but in the guidelines doesn't it say 
anything is free game!


-Original Message- 
From: Moderator

Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 5:36 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Keyboard Configurations With Jaws

If we are going to discuss keyboard configurations, then change the subject
line to show that!
And keep it related to Jaws.
If you want to reminisce, take it off list!

Richard Q. Justice-list moderator
jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com

- Original Message - 
From: Rose Combs roseco...@q.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 6:43 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010?


Well I am prehistoric then because it was 50 years ago this coming September
that I started learning to type on a manual typewriter.


Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com
A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the
memory!


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of j Bron
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 3:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010?

No I don't!  As far back as I can remember the tab key on the computer was
in the same place as the typewriter, another pre-historic relic.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 6:08 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010?

Of course, JAWS wasn't in the picture then, but do any of you remember when
the tab was where the function keys are now?

Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right. Henry Ford.

Carolyn

- Original Message -
From: Flor Lynch florl...@iol.ie
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 5:39 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010?



Yes, We've all been reduced to Ribbons, and they're here to stay. Now it'd
be nice if there were a tab key on the right of the keyboard as well as
just the one on the left! (It'd also protect JAWS from being swore at so
much in dialogues as well by users!)

-Original Message- 
From: Kimsan

Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 10:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010?

I understand, less is better.

Doesn't change the fact that they are here to stay.

I will admit though it drives me bonkers to tab a thousand times but if
one remembers all of the keytips or use the qat to their advantage then
all is better than before.  The qat, allows 9 items I think, so pick your
favorite 9.  Also, I think you can create your own ribbon with all of your
favorite keytips aalso to avoid all of that tabbing.
I think with enough time and patience one can modify it to their liking to
getter done.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 2:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010?

But you have to remember more shortcut keys, and more often, than in the
past! It takes longer to move around the ribbons.

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Lee
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 3:50 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010?

this is true while the drop down menus were replaced by the ribbons the
shortcut keys still work, so if you remember the shortcut keys your fine!

-Original Message-
From: Jim Pursley
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 7:25 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010?

I think Landa nailed it.  As Microsoft Office became more complex, pull
down menus did not enable most users to see more than a few controls
without going to sub menus.  Hence, the ribbon, which had been in use in
other software products, was adapted to replace much of the top line
apparatus. This said, not all ribbon controls are logical nor highly
visible either. e.g. page renaming in Excel comes under a layer called
cells.  Fortunately, hot keys perform the most common functions in office,
bypassing the need to overheat the tab keys.

On 6/25/2015 10:55 AM, Londa Peterson wrote:

I think it's easier for sighted people because more options are on the
screen at a time where they can see them. I know a lot of sighted
people who don't like them either. When you press the alt key, you can
then right arrow across the upper ribbon to find the different tabs.
If you press tab, you will be in the choices for that ribbon. The tab
key, in my opinion, is the most reliable way to move from item to item
on the lower ribbon. Control right and left arrow is supposed to move
you from group to group on the ribbon so that you can move through the
choices faster. You also have accelerators that will let you press a
series of 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Can't Enter Text Into Forms Mode Edit Field

2015-06-26 Thread TheHangMan
Doctor,
Did you try jaws to pc cursor?
When, typing in the tabs fields.

Good luck,

Jorge

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 4:43 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can't Enter Text Into Forms Mode Edit Field

George:

I did this, but had no luck.

No text gets entered into the edit field, even though I get the forms mode
click.

I confirmed this with sighted assistance.

Even  though Jaws indicates I'm in forms mode, my cursor is obviously
somewhere else.

This problem is especially significant in Internet Explorer 11.

Dr.  Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of TheHangMan
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 2:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can't Enter Text Into Forms Mode Edit Field

Hi,
Try tabbing through the edit fields, then type on the box, you have to type
in.

Jorge


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 2:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can't Enter Text Into Forms Mode Edit Field

No, I have not tried this, and will certainly do so when I am back home at
the computer in question.


However, I actually think my problem is more significant than this, as
viewed by the folks at FS, with whom I am now working.

Will keep you posted.

Dr.  Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of wayne smith
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 2:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can't Enter Text Into Forms Mode Edit Field

When you are in an edit box have you tried pressing the Numb Pad Enter key
to activate the field?

Wayne

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 07:07 PM
To: Jaws users list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Can't Enter Text Into Forms Mode EditField

Hello, everyone.

 

I'm still having issues typing characters into the edit box when on the
internet with my  home Windows 7 PC.

 

I can arrow down or tab until I hear the forms mode sound, but when I type,
nothing gets entered into the edit box.

 

I had someone sighted check, and nothing gets entered onto the screen when I
do the typing in forms mode, even though the sound indicates I'm in forms
mode.

 

I find the issue both in Internet Explorer and in Firefox.  And, I have
tried performing searches on several different web sites where info needs to
be entered into the search box.

 

 

Is there a Jaws or other setting I should check to troubleshoot the issue?

 

For the record, I'm using Jaws 14 on this particular computer.

 

Thank you!

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

 

 



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Outlook Freezes

2015-06-26 Thread TheHangMan
Hello Kimsan,
The only thing I accomplish was to change the location of the drop down
list, where the restart is located and move it to the top of the dropdown
list,.

Windows  key, tab twice, right arrow:
That's the drop down list I move the restart to the top.
That's no good.

Can you send me a note on how to do  the restart shortcut,To help my problem
of shutting down.


Thanks,

Jorge







restart shortcut, I just press control shift r and whatever is frozen, the
comp restarts.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 11:53 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Outlook Freezes

Restarting outlook? Or the computer?

If it's the computer with my restart shortcut, I just press control shift r
and whatever is frozen, the comp restarts.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of TheHangMan
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 8:00 PM
To: Jaws-Users
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Outlook Freezes

Hi,

I'm sure this happens a lot out there.

 

And the PC doesn't want to do anything and you're force to do a shut down.

 

Since, jaws is not responding, is there a way to do a restart, instead of
shutting down???

 

Thanks,

 

 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Outlook Freezes

2015-06-26 Thread TheHangMan
Kimsan,
I did the command you wrote for the hell of it, and it took me back to a new
reply message, I believe. 
I am just going to call MSA.

Thanks,

Jorge
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 11:53 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Outlook Freezes

Restarting outlook? Or the computer?

If it's the computer with my restart shortcut, I just press control shift r
and whatever is frozen, the comp restarts.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of TheHangMan
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 8:00 PM
To: Jaws-Users
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Outlook Freezes

Hi,

I'm sure this happens a lot out there.

 

And the PC doesn't want to do anything and you're force to do a shut down.

 

Since, jaws is not responding, is there a way to do a restart, instead of
shutting down???

 

Thanks,

 

 
Jorge

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[JAWS-Users] Jaws and vipre!

2015-06-26 Thread Bob Edenhofer
Yes! I agree! vipre 2015 is a great program! and it’s verry accessible! if 
you’ve got any questions about it Joe, feel free to ask me!
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[JAWS-Users] messed up computer

2015-06-26 Thread Lenny McHugh
Well I now have it where you can get to the internet. There were quite a few 
viruses on that machine. The one browser.exe hijacked the internet 
connection. When malwarebytes cleaned the system it took that virus out and 
all internet connections associated with it. The virus had stopped the 
system from doing updates as well. When finally connected it did 69 updates. 
Now I still have a problem that I can not figure out yet. When IE is 
launched it goes to a safe search page. I can not get rid of it. in internet 
options both in control panel or through IE I delete that and set a new page 
as default. When IE is launched safe search is back.
I do think that I will be looking for a new antivirus program for her. She 
is using windows defender and the fact that 1,051 infections were removed 
tells me that it is not working on her machine.
If I can not get IE working I probably will install firefox for her to use. 
Off to do some searching about that problem.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010?

2015-06-26 Thread George Martinez CPA
Well, a girl should say fossil rather than prehistoric.
50 years ago September I was learning how to use a key punch machine in college 
on an IBM 1401! GRIN



“If I continue to do the same things I have always done and am believing for 
change in my life… That is a form of “insanity!”
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12231 North 50th Avenue
Glendale, AZ 85304-2215
Voice 602.368.8854 FAX 206.666.2589 
Email george.martinez...@cox.net 


  


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Rose Combs
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 3:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010?

Well I am prehistoric then because it was 50 years ago this coming September 
that I started learning to type on a manual typewriter.  


Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com
A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the memory!


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of j Bron
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 3:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010?

No I don't!  As far back as I can remember the tab key on the computer was in 
the same place as the typewriter, another pre-historic relic.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 6:08 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010?

Of course, JAWS wasn't in the picture then, but do any of you remember when the 
tab was where the function keys are now?

Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right. Henry Ford.

Carolyn

- Original Message -
From: Flor Lynch florl...@iol.ie
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 5:39 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010?


 Yes, We've all been reduced to Ribbons, and they're here to stay. Now it'd 
 be nice if there were a tab key on the right of the keyboard as well as 
 just the one on the left! (It'd also protect JAWS from being swore at so 
 much in dialogues as well by users!)

 -Original Message- 
 From: Kimsan
 Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 10:18 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010?

 I understand, less is better.

 Doesn't change the fact that they are here to stay.

 I will admit though it drives me bonkers to tab a thousand times but if 
 one remembers all of the keytips or use the qat to their advantage then 
 all is better than before.  The qat, allows 9 items I think, so pick your 
 favorite 9.  Also, I think you can create your own ribbon with all of your 
 favorite keytips aalso to avoid all of that tabbing.
 I think with enough time and patience one can modify it to their liking to 
 getter done.

 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
 Behalf Of Flor Lynch
 Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 2:01 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010?

 But you have to remember more shortcut keys, and more often, than in the 
 past! It takes longer to move around the ribbons.

 -Original Message-
 From: Kevin Lee
 Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 3:50 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010?

 this is true while the drop down menus were replaced by the ribbons the 
 shortcut keys still work, so if you remember the shortcut keys your fine!

 -Original Message-
 From: Jim Pursley
 Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 7:25 AM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010?

 I think Landa nailed it.  As Microsoft Office became more complex, pull 
 down menus did not enable most users to see more than a few controls 
 without going to sub menus.  Hence, the ribbon, which had been in use in 
 other software products, was adapted to replace much of the top line 
 apparatus. This said, not all ribbon controls are logical nor highly 
 visible either. e.g. page renaming in Excel comes under a layer called 
 cells.  Fortunately, hot keys perform the most common functions in office, 
 bypassing the need to overheat the tab keys.

 On 6/25/2015 10:55 AM, Londa Peterson wrote:
 I think it's easier for sighted people because more options are on the
 screen at a time where they can see them. I know a lot of sighted
 people who don't like them either. When you press the alt key, you can
 then right arrow across the upper ribbon to find the different tabs.
 If you press tab, you will be in the choices for that ribbon. The tab
 key, in my opinion, is the most reliable way to move from item to item
 on the lower ribbon. Control right and left arrow is supposed to move
 you from group to group on the ribbon so that you can move through the
 choices 

Re: [JAWS-Users] General instructions for JAWS Research-It feature.

2015-06-26 Thread TheHangMan
Carolyn,
I change the name at the end in the quote,
Some people have their jaws speaking speed, so fast speaking that they miss 
things, I think.

Jorge
 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 9:31 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] General instructions for JAWS Research-It feature.

Glad you like it.

Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right. Henry Ford.

Carolyn

- Original Message - 
From: TheHangMan jorgethehang...@gmail.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 9:49 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] General instructions for JAWS Research-It feature.


 Hi,
 Thanks for the notes,
 I had them buried.
 Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right. Tim Ford.
 You can thanks Carolyn for this quote...

 Jorge
 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
 Behalf Of Tim Ford
 Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 8:33 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] General instructions for JAWS Research-It feature.

 Hi All,

 For others who have questions about how to fill in text to run a given
 Research-It feature, do the following.

 Go into Research-It by pressing insert and the space bar, then after the
 beep tone, press the letter r.  That puts you in the text entry field. 
 Tab
 once and arrow to the feature you want.  Tab again, and you will be in a
 text box you can read with the up an down arrow keys.  It describes just 
 how
 to enter/format the search information.  Use shift tab twice to get back 
 to
 the text entry field, enter your data, and press enter.  That's it! 
 (There
 are other features you will find if you continue to tab through.  Those 
 are
 all self-explanatory.

 Tim Ford


 -Original Message- 
 From: Janie Degenshein
 Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 4:01 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Converting currency with ResearchIt

 Glad you had it work out for you
 I like this feature and use it often
 Happy using friend!

 -Original Message- 
 From: wayne smith
 Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 6:11 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Converting currency with ResearchIt

 That worked like a charm/doing it right.

 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
 Behalf Of Janie Degenshein
 Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 12:19 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Converting currency with ResearchIt

 Here you go
 Enter the amount followed by the currency type. Then, enter the currency
 that
 you wish to convert the entered amount to. For example, 100 U.S. dollars
 converted to British pounds would be written as, 100 USD GBP. If you make 
 a
 mistake in the format, you will be provided a list of all the countries 
 and
 their currency codes to

 -Original Message-
 From: Cristóbal
 Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 12:58 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Converting currency with ResearchIt

 Go to your help files from within the Jaws menus and navigate the treeview
 or
 topics or tab around from within ResearchIt itself. What you're looking 
 for
 should be there.

 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
 Behalf Of wayne smith
 Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 9:50 AM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Converting currency with researchit

 InsertF1 was of no help.

 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
 Behalf Of Cristóbal
 Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 11:36 AM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Converting currency with researchit

 I don’t' use this feature, but I would have to imagine that this is 
 outlined
 in the corresponding help files. Either in the Jaws help menu or from 
 within
 the ResearchIt prompts.

 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
 Behalf Of wayne smith
 Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 9:31 AM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Converting currency with researchit

 Hello-I want to convert Mexican Pesos to US dollars and I wrote in this in
 researchit in several different ways and I got nothing.  Can you tell me 
 how
 to write in the correct way to get the result?

 Thanks in advance.



 Wayne

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010?

2015-06-26 Thread Carolyn Arnold
I remember 10 function keys on the left too on some computer way back along 
the way.


Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right. Henry Ford.

Carolyn

- Original Message - 
From: Rose Combs roseco...@q.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 6:41 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010?


No, but I remember a keyboard that had the function keys just to the left 
of the tab key, two rows of five in fact.  Then they started using F11 and 
F12 and the function keys move to across the top.  I am speaking of an IBM 
from about 1986 keyboard.  Used in DOS 3.0 I believe, I was using 
Videovoice as a screen reader at the time.



Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com
A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the 
memory!



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold

Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 3:08 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010?

Of course, JAWS wasn't in the picture then, but do any of you remember 
when

the tab was where the function keys are now?

Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right. Henry 
Ford.


Carolyn

- Original Message - 
From: Flor Lynch florl...@iol.ie

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 5:39 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010?


Yes, We've all been reduced to Ribbons, and they're here to stay. Now 
it'd

be nice if there were a tab key on the right of the keyboard as well as
just the one on the left! (It'd also protect JAWS from being swore at so
much in dialogues as well by users!)

-Original Message- 
From: Kimsan

Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 10:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010?

I understand, less is better.

Doesn't change the fact that they are here to stay.

I will admit though it drives me bonkers to tab a thousand times but if
one remembers all of the keytips or use the qat to their advantage then
all is better than before.  The qat, allows 9 items I think, so pick your
favorite 9.  Also, I think you can create your own ribbon with all of 
your

favorite keytips aalso to avoid all of that tabbing.
I think with enough time and patience one can modify it to their liking 
to

getter done.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 2:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010?

But you have to remember more shortcut keys, and more often, than in the
past! It takes longer to move around the ribbons.

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Lee
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 3:50 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010?

this is true while the drop down menus were replaced by the ribbons the
shortcut keys still work, so if you remember the shortcut keys your fine!

-Original Message-
From: Jim Pursley
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 7:25 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010?

I think Landa nailed it.  As Microsoft Office became more complex, pull
down menus did not enable most users to see more than a few controls
without going to sub menus.  Hence, the ribbon, which had been in use in
other software products, was adapted to replace much of the top line
apparatus. This said, not all ribbon controls are logical nor highly
visible either. e.g. page renaming in Excel comes under a layer called
cells.  Fortunately, hot keys perform the most common functions in 
office,

bypassing the need to overheat the tab keys.

On 6/25/2015 10:55 AM, Londa Peterson wrote:

I think it's easier for sighted people because more options are on the
screen at a time where they can see them. I know a lot of sighted
people who don't like them either. When you press the alt key, you can
then right arrow across the upper ribbon to find the different tabs.
If you press tab, you will be in the choices for that ribbon. The tab
key, in my opinion, is the most reliable way to move from item to item
on the lower ribbon. Control right and left arrow is supposed to move
you from group to group on the ribbon so that you can move through the
choices faster. You also have accelerators that will let you press a
series of letters to do things more quickly. Hope this helps a little.
I know sighted people who don't like it either because they don't know
where things are. On the other hand, I know people who love it because
they can find obscure options more quickly.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 10:41 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010?


Re: [JAWS-Users] messed up a computer with malware

2015-06-26 Thread Mauricio Molina
Something similar to this occurred to me while I was assisting another visually 
impaired individual with their laptop. After running MalWareBytes, the computer 
would say that it was connected to the network but would not connect to 
internet using either Internet Explorer or Google Chrome. After attempting some 
troubleshooting steps which included system restore, it took a call to 
Microsoft's disability tech support line to get the problem resolved. 
Fortunately, the individual I was attempting to assist, though visually 
impaired, had decent enough vision to perform the steps as directed by the 
Microsoft technician. Unfortunately, I do not recall the steps though it did 
involve going to Internet Options and to the connection tab. You may want to 
compare the settings of a working computer to the one that cannot get online, 
or, you can call Microsoft straight away. 

Mauricio

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Lenny McHugh
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 1:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] messed up a computer with malware

It is a desktop with a wireless card.

-Original Message- 
From: TheHangMan
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 4:16 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] messed up a computer with malware

Lenny,
The PC, if it's a laptop has a wireless external switch and an internal one 
too.
That's the one, which is hard to access,
Depending on the type of laptop it is,

There is a key command like the FN key + F2 + F10, for example that will 
allow you to turn it on/off.
Can anyone help on the correct command please.

Jorge

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Humberto Rodriguez
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 10:05 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] messed up a computer with malware

Is the wi-fi connected?  Insert-F11 will show you the System Tray and the 
wireless connection should be there.

Humberto


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Lenny McHugh
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 10:03 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] messed up a computer with malware

will give that a try this evening when she gets home. I do not think it will
work but worth the try. Last night I had her try to search for IE and run it
but it could not find her wifi.

-Original Message- 
From: Humberto Rodriguez
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 9:46 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] messed up a computer with malware

Hello Lenny:

Have you tried going to c:\program files\Internet Explorer\iexplorer.exe  to
start IE from there?  If that works, just make a shortcut to it for the
desktop, or pin it to the Start Menu or Task Bar.

Humberto


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Lenny McHugh
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 11:16 PM
To: JFW List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] messed up a computer with malware

I have never seen this before. My grandson’s girlfriends computer was
running extremely slow and I was asked to help. What a mistake. I first did
disk cleanup and internet options to delete history etc. This made no change
but removed over a gig of junk. I then had her download malware bytes and
run it.
It located 1,052 infections and removed them. It removed browser.exe and she
can now not get on the internet. She is using a wireless card. It looks like
her network is still there but the short cuts to internet explorer or her
email are gone.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] one drive

2015-06-26 Thread David Ferrin
The way it looks to me at least is that anything you put in your one drive 
directory gets uploaded automatically. Conversely anything you remove from 
the same place locally gets deleted remotely as well, sort of like drop box 
in that regard I imagine.
David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from 
a simpler system that worked perfectly.
- Original Message - 
From: wayne smith waynesoundsm...@earthlink.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 5:11 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] one drive


Going back over missed messages and I wonder if One Drive can automatically
backup my harddrive like Carbonite?  I want to have a external backup but I
don't want one that deletes anything from storage that is no longer on the C
drive so I can store things that I do not need all the time.  What is your
take.
Equally important, have you tried a brand of ice cream called Hudsonville?
My wife just discovered it by accident and boy is it creamy and the flavors
explode on your budd.  It can't however, be detected by JAWS, at least not
yet.

Waynes

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 09:08 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] one drive

I just signed up for the service this evening and downloaded the application
although it is too late to do any installing. My question is how usable is
this thing?



Note there is one of those graphic things with stuff for you to type in the
box before the sign up process will complete. Annoying but not impossible.
There is an audio option but fortunately my wife was able to figure out the
letters.



I just have no desire to fiddle with such things when there are so many more
things in life to worry about like is my ice cream supply stocked or not.

David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010?

2015-06-26 Thread Rose Combs
I have occasionally needed to look up Jaws keystrokes for things I don't use on 
a regular basis.  I have not used the new feature for them, as it has actually 
been more than a year since I needed to look up a particular keystroke, 
however, there is no crime in looking them up when needed, same as using the 
ribbons in Microsoft products.  If you don't know, look by all means.  


Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com
A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the memory!


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Kimsan
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 2:50 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010?

I swear at my comp or jaws to keep it on list topics lol no matter where the 
keys are at haha.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 2:39 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010?

Yes, We've all been reduced to Ribbons, and they're here to stay. Now it'd be 
nice if there were a tab key on the right of the keyboard as well as just the 
one on the left! (It'd also protect JAWS from being swore at so much in 
dialogues as well by users!)

-Original Message-
From: Kimsan
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 10:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010?

I understand, less is better.

Doesn't change the fact that they are here to stay.

I will admit though it drives me bonkers to tab a thousand times but if one 
remembers all of the keytips or use the qat to their advantage then all is 
better than before.  The qat, allows 9 items I think, so pick your favorite 9.  
Also, I think you can create your own ribbon with all of your favorite keytips 
aalso to avoid all of that tabbing.
I think with enough time and patience one can modify it to their liking to 
getter done.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 2:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010?

But you have to remember more shortcut keys, and more often, than in the past! 
It takes longer to move around the ribbons.

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Lee
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 3:50 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010?

this is true while the drop down menus were replaced by the ribbons the 
shortcut keys still work, so if you remember the shortcut keys your fine!

-Original Message-
From: Jim Pursley
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 7:25 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010?

I think Landa nailed it.  As Microsoft Office became more complex, pull down 
menus did not enable most users to see more than a few controls without going 
to sub menus.  Hence, the ribbon, which had been in use in other software 
products, was adapted to replace much of the top line apparatus. 
This said, not all ribbon controls are logical nor highly visible either. 
e.g. page renaming in Excel comes under a layer called cells.  Fortunately, hot 
keys perform the most common functions in office, bypassing the need to 
overheat the tab keys.

On 6/25/2015 10:55 AM, Londa Peterson wrote:
 I think it's easier for sighted people because more options are on the 
 screen at a time where they can see them. I know a lot of sighted 
 people who don't like them either. When you press the alt key, you can 
 then right arrow across the upper ribbon to find the different tabs.
 If you press tab, you will be in the choices for that ribbon. The tab 
 key, in my opinion, is the most reliable way to move from item to item 
 on the lower ribbon. Control right and left arrow is supposed to move 
 you from group to group on the ribbon so that you can move through the 
 choices faster. You also have accelerators that will let you press a 
 series of letters to do things more quickly. Hope this helps a little.
 I know sighted people who don't like it either because they don't know 
 where things are. On the other hand, I know people who love it because 
 they can find obscure options more quickly.

 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
 On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
 Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 10:41 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010?

 Where in the world did Office 2010 and other newer programs come up 
 with this ribbon idea? It makes no sense to me. I just got some 
 directions, keep them handy and follow them. I guess it makes sense to 
 somebody.

 Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right. Henry 
 Ford.

 Carolyn

 - Original Message -
 From: 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010?

2015-06-26 Thread Rose Combs
No, but I remember a keyboard that had the function keys just to the left of 
the tab key, two rows of five in fact.  Then they started using F11 and F12 and 
the function keys move to across the top.  I am speaking of an IBM from about 
1986 keyboard.  Used in DOS 3.0 I believe, I was using Videovoice as a screen 
reader at the time.  


Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com
A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the memory!


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 3:08 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010?

Of course, JAWS wasn't in the picture then, but do any of you remember when 
the tab was where the function keys are now?

Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right. Henry Ford.

Carolyn

- Original Message - 
From: Flor Lynch florl...@iol.ie
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 5:39 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010?


 Yes, We've all been reduced to Ribbons, and they're here to stay. Now it'd 
 be nice if there were a tab key on the right of the keyboard as well as 
 just the one on the left! (It'd also protect JAWS from being swore at so 
 much in dialogues as well by users!)

 -Original Message- 
 From: Kimsan
 Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 10:18 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010?

 I understand, less is better.

 Doesn't change the fact that they are here to stay.

 I will admit though it drives me bonkers to tab a thousand times but if 
 one remembers all of the keytips or use the qat to their advantage then 
 all is better than before.  The qat, allows 9 items I think, so pick your 
 favorite 9.  Also, I think you can create your own ribbon with all of your 
 favorite keytips aalso to avoid all of that tabbing.
 I think with enough time and patience one can modify it to their liking to 
 getter done.

 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
 Behalf Of Flor Lynch
 Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 2:01 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010?

 But you have to remember more shortcut keys, and more often, than in the 
 past! It takes longer to move around the ribbons.

 -Original Message-
 From: Kevin Lee
 Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 3:50 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010?

 this is true while the drop down menus were replaced by the ribbons the 
 shortcut keys still work, so if you remember the shortcut keys your fine!

 -Original Message-
 From: Jim Pursley
 Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 7:25 AM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010?

 I think Landa nailed it.  As Microsoft Office became more complex, pull 
 down menus did not enable most users to see more than a few controls 
 without going to sub menus.  Hence, the ribbon, which had been in use in 
 other software products, was adapted to replace much of the top line 
 apparatus. This said, not all ribbon controls are logical nor highly 
 visible either. e.g. page renaming in Excel comes under a layer called 
 cells.  Fortunately, hot keys perform the most common functions in office, 
 bypassing the need to overheat the tab keys.

 On 6/25/2015 10:55 AM, Londa Peterson wrote:
 I think it's easier for sighted people because more options are on the
 screen at a time where they can see them. I know a lot of sighted
 people who don't like them either. When you press the alt key, you can
 then right arrow across the upper ribbon to find the different tabs.
 If you press tab, you will be in the choices for that ribbon. The tab
 key, in my opinion, is the most reliable way to move from item to item
 on the lower ribbon. Control right and left arrow is supposed to move
 you from group to group on the ribbon so that you can move through the
 choices faster. You also have accelerators that will let you press a
 series of letters to do things more quickly. Hope this helps a little.
 I know sighted people who don't like it either because they don't know
 where things are. On the other hand, I know people who love it because
 they can find obscure options more quickly.

 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
 On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
 Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 10:41 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010?

 Where in the world did Office 2010 and other newer programs come up
 with this ribbon idea? It makes no sense to me. I just got some
 directions, keep them handy and follow them. I guess it makes sense to
 somebody.

 Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right. Henry
 Ford.

Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10 could mean things stop working at any time. Dan's tip for June 25 2015

2015-06-26 Thread Rose Combs
Old version Jaws 15 has already been uninstalled from my computer, but then I 
won't be in a great hurry for Window 10, will do it after I know a bit more 
about Jaws 17 probably, I am still in 7, as until recently I had to be for my 
job.  Now no longer employed, retired earlier than I thought I was going to do 
so last year at this time.  Not anxious to move to 10 at this point as I am now 
alone, my late husband is not here to help me initially as he was with 7, 
Vista, XP, 98.  I held onto 98 for two years after everyone else went to XP 
until the computer I was using stopped working in fact.  However, I was more 
than glad to upgrade from Vista to 7 but was not a first-day adopter, changed 
in February 2010.  I know it is long past time for me to move on from 7 but 8.0 
did not appeal at all, I here 8.1 is better but, since 10 is out soon will wait 
at least until September or October to switch.  Will see if my cousin can come 
help, first as he is an expert with degree in computer software engineering.  
Based on what I am hearing thus far, I know I am going to prefer Windows 7 over 
10, but6 progress is the name of the game.  No squealing for joy over this 
change as I did when 95 became accessible but know must continue to progress if 
at a snail's pace.  \

On the other hand I am a first day adopter of Jaws beta when it becomes 
available, I trust FS to meet my needs if not initially soon after as I don't 
trust Microsoft to do so.  I don't turn many problems with a beta, as I usually 
do mostly internet, e-,ail and word processing, don't touch Excel unless I am 
forced to do so and only then if someone else has created the worksheet.  I am 
not into desktop publishing, don't subscribe to movie services, am not into 
truly complex stuff at all and only maybe twice in the years I have used Jaws 
have I turned in a complaint or bug report.  Still, for the most part I like 
the improvements I have seen over the past 18 years or so, for the things I 
have done the most.  Only wish that more medical transcription platforms did 
everything they should do with Jaws, but that is not necessarily the fault of 
JAWS programmers but the programmers who create the platforms.  I was employed 
39 years at one job, managed with Optacon, ASAP, JAWS during that time with 
minor difficulties that my former job understood but was outsourced in March.  
I might still be employed had I been able to access every item needed in 
eScription 11 for example but instead I stressed out, became very ill with more 
than stress as an issue and lost the job after six weeks.  Again, not Jaws 
fault, not completely my fault but more the programmers and supervisors who 
could not understand the issues I was facing with boxes that would not open so 
I could provide the correct information, some of which were not even visible to 
JAWS.  

Since this is not a commonly used program by thousands but only used by 
probable less than 10 persons, I did not expect FS to assist me.  Instead, I 
decided to retire a couple of years earlier than I had initially planned, now 
am bored to death after only eight weeks and wish I could help somewhere from 
home, can't move at the moment.  

Feeling mostly useless which is probably why I am writing long messages, LOL.  
 


Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com
A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the memory!


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 3:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10 could mean thingsstopworking 
at anytime. Dan's tip for June 25 2015

Same here. Thanks for reminding about IE - need to make note of that one.

Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right. Henry Ford.

Carolyn

- Original Message -
From: Holger Fiallo hfia...@rcn.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 6:13 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10 could mean thingsstopworking 
at anytime. Dan's tip for June 25 2015


 Check podcast by FS on jaws 16 and window 10. There comments about 10 
 is very interesting. Also the suggestion regarding making IE the 
 default program. Also how you will need to uninstall old version of 
 jaws before installing 10. Anyone who will get 10, must listen to the 
 podcast. I did and will follow their suggestion.

 -Original Message-
 From: TheHangMan
 Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 5:06 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10 could mean things 
 stopworking at anytime. Dan's tip for June 25 2015

 Hi trish,
 Thank you for this mail.

 I'm going 10 Pro on my 2 laptops and say, 'later to 7.'
 Got to stay running with the horses,
 I notice you're up there in the pack.

 Jorge


 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
 On 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Outlook Freezes

2015-06-26 Thread TheHangMan
Hi,
Thanks for the correction.

I had people all over looking for a flush reset key near the power key on
their laptops, HaHahaha!

Jorge


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jim Pursley
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 5:20 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Outlook Freezes

Talking about tower desktop.  i only use the forced restart button as a last
resort but it's probably preferable to anything more drastic.

On 6/26/2015 6:14 PM, TheHangMan wrote:
 Hi,
 Are you talking:
   on a tower in a  regular desktop computer?
   Or, on a laptop?   I had someone check and that was a NEGATIVE...

   Jorge
 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
 On Behalf Of Jim Pursley
 Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 9:37 AM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Outlook Freezes

 I think that the keyboard command restart is preferable to the forced 
 restart by pressing the small button in the vicinity of the son-off 
 switch.  When I have been forced because of a locked keyboard to use 
 the forced restart, I always get a non-JAWS readable Windows screen 
 from which I must choose the restart option - normal or safe mode and one
other.

 On 6/26/2015 10:14 AM, Mario wrote:
 if this has been mentioned already, nnext to the power bbutton is a 
 reset/restart button usually smaller and sometimes flush or recessed.
 use it instead of doing a forced shutdown.



 On 6/25/2015 11:00 PM, TheHangMan wrote:
   Hi,

 I'm sure this happens a lot out there.


 And the PC doesn't want to do anything and you're force to do a shut 
 down.


 Since, jaws is not responding, is there a way to do a restart, 
 instead of shutting down???


 Thanks,


Jorge

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[JAWS-Users] Keyboard Configurations With Jaws

2015-06-26 Thread Moderator
If we are going to discuss keyboard configurations, then change the subject 
line to show that!
And keep it related to Jaws.
If you want to reminisce, take it off list!

Richard Q. Justice-list moderator
jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com

- Original Message - 
From: Rose Combs roseco...@q.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 6:43 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010?


Well I am prehistoric then because it was 50 years ago this coming September 
that I started learning to type on a manual typewriter.


Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com
A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the 
memory!


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of j Bron
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 3:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010?

No I don't!  As far back as I can remember the tab key on the computer was 
in the same place as the typewriter, another pre-historic relic.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 6:08 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010?

Of course, JAWS wasn't in the picture then, but do any of you remember when 
the tab was where the function keys are now?

Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right. Henry Ford.

Carolyn

- Original Message -
From: Flor Lynch florl...@iol.ie
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 5:39 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010?


 Yes, We've all been reduced to Ribbons, and they're here to stay. Now it'd
 be nice if there were a tab key on the right of the keyboard as well as
 just the one on the left! (It'd also protect JAWS from being swore at so
 much in dialogues as well by users!)

 -Original Message- 
 From: Kimsan
 Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 10:18 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010?

 I understand, less is better.

 Doesn't change the fact that they are here to stay.

 I will admit though it drives me bonkers to tab a thousand times but if
 one remembers all of the keytips or use the qat to their advantage then
 all is better than before.  The qat, allows 9 items I think, so pick your
 favorite 9.  Also, I think you can create your own ribbon with all of your
 favorite keytips aalso to avoid all of that tabbing.
 I think with enough time and patience one can modify it to their liking to
 getter done.

 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
 Behalf Of Flor Lynch
 Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 2:01 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010?

 But you have to remember more shortcut keys, and more often, than in the
 past! It takes longer to move around the ribbons.

 -Original Message-
 From: Kevin Lee
 Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 3:50 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010?

 this is true while the drop down menus were replaced by the ribbons the
 shortcut keys still work, so if you remember the shortcut keys your fine!

 -Original Message-
 From: Jim Pursley
 Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 7:25 AM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010?

 I think Landa nailed it.  As Microsoft Office became more complex, pull
 down menus did not enable most users to see more than a few controls
 without going to sub menus.  Hence, the ribbon, which had been in use in
 other software products, was adapted to replace much of the top line
 apparatus. This said, not all ribbon controls are logical nor highly
 visible either. e.g. page renaming in Excel comes under a layer called
 cells.  Fortunately, hot keys perform the most common functions in office,
 bypassing the need to overheat the tab keys.

 On 6/25/2015 10:55 AM, Londa Peterson wrote:
 I think it's easier for sighted people because more options are on the
 screen at a time where they can see them. I know a lot of sighted
 people who don't like them either. When you press the alt key, you can
 then right arrow across the upper ribbon to find the different tabs.
 If you press tab, you will be in the choices for that ribbon. The tab
 key, in my opinion, is the most reliable way to move from item to item
 on the lower ribbon. Control right and left arrow is supposed to move
 you from group to group on the ribbon so that you can move through the
 choices faster. You also have accelerators that will let you press a
 series of letters to do things more quickly. Hope this helps a little.
 I know sighted people who don't like it either because they don't know
 where things are. On the other hand, I know people who love it because
 they can 

Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS-Users] Does anyone know about Qihoo 360?

2015-06-26 Thread Kevin Lee

vipre 2015 is a great program many of us on the jaws list use it!

-Original Message- 
From: Jo Luland

Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 3:59 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS-Users] Does anyone know about Qihoo 360?

Hi Gerald and Kevin,
Thanks to both of you for sharing your experiences regarding this program.
Looks like I'll be hunting for another program to protect my computer.
Jo

-Original Message- 
From: Gerald Levy

Sent: June 26, 2015 4:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS-Users] Does anyone know about Qihoo 360?


I installed this anti-virus program about a year ago, and it completely
messed up my computer.  Fortunately, I was able to uninstall it and restore
things to normal.  Try it at your own risk.

Gerald


- Original Message - 
From: Jo Luland jolul...@verizon.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 2:49 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS-Users] Does anyone know about Qihoo 360?


Does anyone on this list use Qihoo 360? If so, is it compatible with JAWS 
16? Any thoughts will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Jo

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010?

2015-06-26 Thread Carolyn Arnold
Sixty years ago, I graduated from high school and had a job typing and 
operating a switchboard. The typewriter had the tab key where the function 
keys are now. Shift 2 was the quote sign. It seems like underline was Shift 
6. Anyway, things are way different. We used belts on a Dictaphone. Rose 
probably remembers some of that, not 60 years back working, but 50 anyway.


JAWS turned out to be a great blessing for any kind of clerical or computer 
jobs.


Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right. Henry Ford.

Carolyn

- Original Message - 
From: George Martinez CPA george.martinez...@cox.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 7:23 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010?



Well, a girl should say fossil rather than prehistoric.
50 years ago September I was learning how to use a key punch machine in 
college on an IBM 1401! GRIN




“If I continue to do the same things I have always done and am believing 
for change in my life… That is a form of “insanity!”

George A Martinez CPA, PC
12231 North 50th Avenue
Glendale, AZ 85304-2215
Voice 602.368.8854 FAX 206.666.2589
Email george.martinez...@cox.net





-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Rose Combs

Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 3:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010?

Well I am prehistoric then because it was 50 years ago this coming 
September that I started learning to type on a manual typewriter.



Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com
A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the 
memory!



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of j Bron

Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 3:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010?

No I don't!  As far back as I can remember the tab key on the computer was 
in the same place as the typewriter, another pre-historic relic.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold

Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 6:08 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010?

Of course, JAWS wasn't in the picture then, but do any of you remember 
when the tab was where the function keys are now?


Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right. Henry 
Ford.


Carolyn

- Original Message -
From: Flor Lynch florl...@iol.ie
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 5:39 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010?


Yes, We've all been reduced to Ribbons, and they're here to stay. Now 
it'd

be nice if there were a tab key on the right of the keyboard as well as
just the one on the left! (It'd also protect JAWS from being swore at so
much in dialogues as well by users!)

-Original Message- 
From: Kimsan

Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 10:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010?

I understand, less is better.

Doesn't change the fact that they are here to stay.

I will admit though it drives me bonkers to tab a thousand times but if
one remembers all of the keytips or use the qat to their advantage then
all is better than before.  The qat, allows 9 items I think, so pick your
favorite 9.  Also, I think you can create your own ribbon with all of 
your

favorite keytips aalso to avoid all of that tabbing.
I think with enough time and patience one can modify it to their liking 
to

getter done.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 2:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010?

But you have to remember more shortcut keys, and more often, than in the
past! It takes longer to move around the ribbons.

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Lee
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 3:50 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010?

this is true while the drop down menus were replaced by the ribbons the
shortcut keys still work, so if you remember the shortcut keys your fine!

-Original Message-
From: Jim Pursley
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 7:25 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010?

I think Landa nailed it.  As Microsoft Office became more complex, pull
down menus did not enable most users to see more than a few controls
without going to sub menus.  Hence, the ribbon, which had been in use in
other software products, was adapted to replace much of the top line
apparatus. This said, not all ribbon controls are logical nor highly
visible either. e.g. page renaming in Excel comes under a layer called
cells.  Fortunately, hot keys perform the 

Re: [JAWS-Users] General instructions for JAWS Research-It feature.

2015-06-26 Thread Carolyn Arnold

I did notice the Tim Ford and thought that was pretty good.

Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right. Henry Ford.

Carolyn

- Original Message - 
From: TheHangMan jorgethehang...@gmail.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 7:57 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] General instructions for JAWS Research-It feature.



Carolyn,
I change the name at the end in the quote,
Some people have their jaws speaking speed, so fast speaking that they 
miss things, I think.


Jorge


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold

Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 9:31 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] General instructions for JAWS Research-It 
feature.


Glad you like it.

Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right. Henry 
Ford.


Carolyn

- Original Message - 
From: TheHangMan jorgethehang...@gmail.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 9:49 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] General instructions for JAWS Research-It 
feature.




Hi,
Thanks for the notes,
I had them buried.
Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right. Tim 
Ford.

You can thanks Carolyn for this quote...

Jorge
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 8:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] General instructions for JAWS Research-It feature.

Hi All,

For others who have questions about how to fill in text to run a given
Research-It feature, do the following.

Go into Research-It by pressing insert and the space bar, then after the
beep tone, press the letter r.  That puts you in the text entry field.
Tab
once and arrow to the feature you want.  Tab again, and you will be in a
text box you can read with the up an down arrow keys.  It describes just
how
to enter/format the search information.  Use shift tab twice to get back
to
the text entry field, enter your data, and press enter.  That's it!
(There
are other features you will find if you continue to tab through.  Those
are
all self-explanatory.

Tim Ford


-Original Message- 
From: Janie Degenshein

Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 4:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Converting currency with ResearchIt

Glad you had it work out for you
I like this feature and use it often
Happy using friend!

-Original Message- 
From: wayne smith

Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 6:11 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Converting currency with ResearchIt

That worked like a charm/doing it right.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Janie Degenshein
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 12:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Converting currency with ResearchIt

Here you go
Enter the amount followed by the currency type. Then, enter the currency
that
you wish to convert the entered amount to. For example, 100 U.S. dollars
converted to British pounds would be written as, 100 USD GBP. If you make
a
mistake in the format, you will be provided a list of all the countries
and
their currency codes to

-Original Message-
From: Cristóbal
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 12:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Converting currency with ResearchIt

Go to your help files from within the Jaws menus and navigate the 
treeview

or
topics or tab around from within ResearchIt itself. What you're looking
for
should be there.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of wayne smith
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 9:50 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Converting currency with researchit

InsertF1 was of no help.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 11:36 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Converting currency with researchit

I don’t' use this feature, but I would have to imagine that this is
outlined
in the corresponding help files. Either in the Jaws help menu or from
within
the ResearchIt prompts.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of wayne smith
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 9:31 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Converting currency with researchit

Hello-I want to convert Mexican Pesos to US dollars and I wrote in this 
in

researchit in several different ways and I got nothing.  Can you tell me
how
to write in the correct way to get the result?

Thanks in advance.



Wayne

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Re: [JAWS-Users] one drive

2015-06-26 Thread Guerra Access Technology Training
OneDrive will not do as Carbonite does 


Respectfully,

Guerra Access Technology Training LLC
gacces...@gmail.com
507.722.1397


 On Jun 26, 2015, at 4:11 PM, wayne smith waynesoundsm...@earthlink.net 
 wrote:
 
 Going back over missed messages and I wonder if One Drive can automatically
 backup my harddrive like Carbonite?  I want to have a external backup but I
 don't want one that deletes anything from storage that is no longer on the C
 drive so I can store things that I do not need all the time.  What is your
 take.
 Equally important, have you tried a brand of ice cream called Hudsonville?
 My wife just discovered it by accident and boy is it creamy and the flavors
 explode on your budd.  It can't however, be detected by JAWS, at least not
 yet.
 
 Waynes
 
 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
 Behalf Of David Ferrin
 Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 09:08 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] one drive
 
 I just signed up for the service this evening and downloaded the application
 although it is too late to do any installing. My question is how usable is
 this thing? 
 
 
 
 Note there is one of those graphic things with stuff for you to type in the
 box before the sign up process will complete. Annoying but not impossible.
 There is an audio option but fortunately my wife was able to figure out the
 letters. 
 
 
 
 I just have no desire to fiddle with such things when there are so many more
 things in life to worry about like is my ice cream supply stocked or not. 
 
 David Ferrin
 A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from
 a simpler system that worked perfectly.
 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Outlook Freezes

2015-06-26 Thread Mario

oh, absolutely... oh oh. umm, what was that keystroke again?


On 6/26/2015 9:36 AM, Jim Pursley wrote:
I think that the keyboard command restart is preferable to the forced 
restart by pressing the small button in the vicinity of the son-off 
switch.  When I have been forced because of a locked keyboard to use 
the forced restart, I always get a non-JAWS readable Windows screen 
from which I must choose the restart option - normal or safe mode and 
one other.


On 6/26/2015 10:14 AM, Mario wrote:
if this has been mentioned already, nnext to the power bbutton is a 
reset/restart button usually smaller and sometimes flush or recessed. 
use it instead of doing a forced shutdown.




On 6/25/2015 11:00 PM, TheHangMan wrote:

 Hi,

I'm sure this happens a lot out there.


And the PC doesn't want to do anything and you're force to do a shut 
down.



Since, jaws is not responding, is there a way to do a restart, 
instead of

shutting down???


Thanks,


  Jorge

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010?

2015-06-26 Thread Rose Combs
Well I am prehistoric then because it was 50 years ago this coming September 
that I started learning to type on a manual typewriter.  


Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com
A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the memory!


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of j Bron
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 3:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010?

No I don't!  As far back as I can remember the tab key on the computer was in 
the same place as the typewriter, another pre-historic relic.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 6:08 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010?

Of course, JAWS wasn't in the picture then, but do any of you remember when the 
tab was where the function keys are now?

Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right. Henry Ford.

Carolyn

- Original Message -
From: Flor Lynch florl...@iol.ie
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 5:39 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010?


 Yes, We've all been reduced to Ribbons, and they're here to stay. Now it'd 
 be nice if there were a tab key on the right of the keyboard as well as 
 just the one on the left! (It'd also protect JAWS from being swore at so 
 much in dialogues as well by users!)

 -Original Message- 
 From: Kimsan
 Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 10:18 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010?

 I understand, less is better.

 Doesn't change the fact that they are here to stay.

 I will admit though it drives me bonkers to tab a thousand times but if 
 one remembers all of the keytips or use the qat to their advantage then 
 all is better than before.  The qat, allows 9 items I think, so pick your 
 favorite 9.  Also, I think you can create your own ribbon with all of your 
 favorite keytips aalso to avoid all of that tabbing.
 I think with enough time and patience one can modify it to their liking to 
 getter done.

 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
 Behalf Of Flor Lynch
 Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 2:01 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010?

 But you have to remember more shortcut keys, and more often, than in the 
 past! It takes longer to move around the ribbons.

 -Original Message-
 From: Kevin Lee
 Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 3:50 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010?

 this is true while the drop down menus were replaced by the ribbons the 
 shortcut keys still work, so if you remember the shortcut keys your fine!

 -Original Message-
 From: Jim Pursley
 Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 7:25 AM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010?

 I think Landa nailed it.  As Microsoft Office became more complex, pull 
 down menus did not enable most users to see more than a few controls 
 without going to sub menus.  Hence, the ribbon, which had been in use in 
 other software products, was adapted to replace much of the top line 
 apparatus. This said, not all ribbon controls are logical nor highly 
 visible either. e.g. page renaming in Excel comes under a layer called 
 cells.  Fortunately, hot keys perform the most common functions in office, 
 bypassing the need to overheat the tab keys.

 On 6/25/2015 10:55 AM, Londa Peterson wrote:
 I think it's easier for sighted people because more options are on the
 screen at a time where they can see them. I know a lot of sighted
 people who don't like them either. When you press the alt key, you can
 then right arrow across the upper ribbon to find the different tabs.
 If you press tab, you will be in the choices for that ribbon. The tab
 key, in my opinion, is the most reliable way to move from item to item
 on the lower ribbon. Control right and left arrow is supposed to move
 you from group to group on the ribbon so that you can move through the
 choices faster. You also have accelerators that will let you press a
 series of letters to do things more quickly. Hope this helps a little.
 I know sighted people who don't like it either because they don't know
 where things are. On the other hand, I know people who love it because
 they can find obscure options more quickly.

 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
 On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
 Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 10:41 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010?

 Where in the world did Office 2010 and other newer programs come up
 with this ribbon idea? It makes no sense to 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010?

2015-06-26 Thread Rose Combs
Due to the fact that I used many keystrokes in Word from 97 to 2003, Jaws 
virtual ribbons eventually annoyed me because I could not use the keystrokes I 
already knew.  After about 30 days of using the feature I turned it off again 
so I could use those keystrokes I already knew and use the ribbons for the more 
obscure things I did not use on a regular basis.  It is a great idea for those 
new to office or those who use it seldom but not for someone who knows even 
just a few keystrokes they use regularly such as center, left and right 
justify, etc.  I wish we could go back to the drop down menus, true, but, we 
are a minority of folks, so we have to learn to deal with the ribbons 
eventually as they do supposedly make it a lot easier for mousers.  They are a 
Microsoft staple now, so learn to deal with them as soon as possible.  They 
will show up in newer versions of Windows, office products, e-mail products 
etc.  We may wish differently but supply and dement is the byword here, we 
don't rule when it comes to public wishes or company decisions.  It would be 
wonderful if we had the choice to use old-style in the products themselves but 
we don't so use the virtual ribbons in Jaws or those Microsoft has provided, 
learn the shortcuts you use most often or use the Jaws menus or the ribbons, 
which ever makes you feel most productive.  I feel more productive using the 
combinations I have known by heart since 1998, others may feel more comfortable 
with going down through the Jaws menus and finding what they need.  As I said 
initially I thought it was a wonderful feature but after a month of using in in 
2010 when it was introduced, I switched back to the ribbons so I could be 
competitive and productive in my own way.  

Jaws Help does have instructions at least to help you learn the newer ribbon 
usage.  I don't know all the keystrokes either but I do know several that I 
used daily for the past five years and found others that I might use only once 
a month or a year when needed.  
Each to their own, but the ribbons, much as many of us would like them to, are 
not going away.  



Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com
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-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Bissett, Tom
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 12:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010?

I always use the jaws virtual ribbon,  I can never remember all the keystrokes. 
 With the virtual ribbon it feels much like the old menus.  Even though it is 
new and takes a little getting used to I really have no issues with it.
Tom Bisset
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 3:38 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010?

That's encouraging.

Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right. Henry Ford.

Carolyn

- Original Message - 
From: Kimsan kimsans...@gmail.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 3:15 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010?


I hated the ribbons the first time I was introduced to them.

 Another list member here was actually my trainer for it and if memory 
 serves, I think he wanted to pull out his hair lol
 However, I hated it because it was new but after I left his training 
 sessions, I was good and after a few, I loved the ribbons and I can do 
 without menus.

 People state the ribbons are confusing and cannot find what they are 
 looking for, I'm the opposite.  When I use something with menus, I'm like, 
 ribbons! Where are the ribbons!

 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
 Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
 Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 8:19 AM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010?

 I'm on your side there - bummer.

 Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right. Henry 
 Ford.

 Carolyn

 - Original Message - 
 From: Kevin Lee klee...@gmail.com
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 11:19 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010?


 the ribbon menus is suppose to add more security however they are suppose
 to accomplish that.  I dislike the ribbon interface as well.
 I think microsoft is seeing how complex they can get.
 the ribbon interface is basically for power users.  not all of us are
 power users.
 I'm probably wrong with my assumption but it is what I think

 -Original Message- 
 From: Carolyn Arnold
 Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 7:41 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010?

 Where in the world did Office 2010 and other newer programs come up with
 this ribbon idea? It 

Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS-Users] Does anyone know about Qihoo 360?

2015-06-26 Thread Jo Luland

Hi Gerald and Kevin,
Thanks to both of you for sharing your experiences regarding this program. 
Looks like I'll be hunting for another program to protect my computer.

Jo

-Original Message- 
From: Gerald Levy

Sent: June 26, 2015 4:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS-Users] Does anyone know about Qihoo 360?


I installed this anti-virus program about a year ago, and it completely
messed up my computer.  Fortunately, I was able to uninstall it and restore
things to normal.  Try it at your own risk.

Gerald


- Original Message - 
From: Jo Luland jolul...@verizon.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 2:49 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS-Users] Does anyone know about Qihoo 360?


Does anyone on this list use Qihoo 360? If so, is it compatible with JAWS 
16? Any thoughts will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Jo

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[JAWS-Users] removing safe search

2015-06-26 Thread Lenny McHugh
I just did some searches. It is quite interesting on the manual steps to get 
rid of that thing. Fortunately there is a safe search removal tool. Tomorrow 
I will have my wife download and  run it I really do not want to install 
jaws on her machine. 40 minutes at a time is not long enough. .



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Re: [JAWS-Users] messed up computer

2015-06-26 Thread Kevin Lee

might I suggest vipre for antivirus?

-Original Message- 
From: Lenny McHugh

Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 7:22 PM
To: JFW List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] messed up computer

Well I now have it where you can get to the internet. There were quite a few
viruses on that machine. The one browser.exe hijacked the internet
connection. When malwarebytes cleaned the system it took that virus out and
all internet connections associated with it. The virus had stopped the
system from doing updates as well. When finally connected it did 69 updates.
Now I still have a problem that I can not figure out yet. When IE is
launched it goes to a safe search page. I can not get rid of it. in internet
options both in control panel or through IE I delete that and set a new page
as default. When IE is launched safe search is back.
I do think that I will be looking for a new antivirus program for her. She
is using windows defender and the fact that 1,051 infections were removed
tells me that it is not working on her machine.
If I can not get IE working I probably will install firefox for her to use.
Off to do some searching about that problem.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] removing safe search

2015-06-26 Thread Dave Carlson
Lenny,

You'd benefit by having a dongle for JAWS. That way, you can run JAWS on 
your wife's machine as long as you need, with the dongle connected.

Costs about $40.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: Lenny McHugh lennymch...@comcast.net
To: JFW List jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 07:31 PM
Subject: [Bulk] [JAWS-Users] removing safe search


I just did some searches. It is quite interesting on the manual steps to get
rid of that thing. Fortunately there is a safe search removal tool. Tomorrow
I will have my wife download and  run it I really do not want to install
jaws on her machine. 40 minutes at a time is not long enough. .



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Keyboard Configurations With Jaws

2015-06-26 Thread Rick Justice
Hi Kevin,
Yes, as long as it pertains to Jaws, the conversation drifted away from 
that.

- Original Message - 
From: Kevin Lee klee...@gmail.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 8:45 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Keyboard Configurations With Jaws


I'm not argueing with you Rick, but in the guidelines doesn't it say
anything is free game!

-Original Message- 
From: Moderator
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 5:36 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Keyboard Configurations With Jaws

If we are going to discuss keyboard configurations, then change the subject
line to show that!
And keep it related to Jaws.
If you want to reminisce, take it off list!

Richard Q. Justice-list moderator
jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com

- Original Message - 
From: Rose Combs roseco...@q.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 6:43 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010?


Well I am prehistoric then because it was 50 years ago this coming September
that I started learning to type on a manual typewriter.


Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com
A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the
memory!


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of j Bron
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 3:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010?

No I don't!  As far back as I can remember the tab key on the computer was
in the same place as the typewriter, another pre-historic relic.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 6:08 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010?

Of course, JAWS wasn't in the picture then, but do any of you remember when
the tab was where the function keys are now?

Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right. Henry Ford.

Carolyn

- Original Message -
From: Flor Lynch florl...@iol.ie
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 5:39 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010?


 Yes, We've all been reduced to Ribbons, and they're here to stay. Now it'd
 be nice if there were a tab key on the right of the keyboard as well as
 just the one on the left! (It'd also protect JAWS from being swore at so
 much in dialogues as well by users!)

 -Original Message- 
 From: Kimsan
 Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 10:18 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010?

 I understand, less is better.

 Doesn't change the fact that they are here to stay.

 I will admit though it drives me bonkers to tab a thousand times but if
 one remembers all of the keytips or use the qat to their advantage then
 all is better than before.  The qat, allows 9 items I think, so pick your
 favorite 9.  Also, I think you can create your own ribbon with all of your
 favorite keytips aalso to avoid all of that tabbing.
 I think with enough time and patience one can modify it to their liking to
 getter done.

 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
 Behalf Of Flor Lynch
 Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 2:01 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010?

 But you have to remember more shortcut keys, and more often, than in the
 past! It takes longer to move around the ribbons.

 -Original Message-
 From: Kevin Lee
 Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 3:50 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010?

 this is true while the drop down menus were replaced by the ribbons the
 shortcut keys still work, so if you remember the shortcut keys your fine!

 -Original Message-
 From: Jim Pursley
 Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 7:25 AM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010?

 I think Landa nailed it.  As Microsoft Office became more complex, pull
 down menus did not enable most users to see more than a few controls
 without going to sub menus.  Hence, the ribbon, which had been in use in
 other software products, was adapted to replace much of the top line
 apparatus. This said, not all ribbon controls are logical nor highly
 visible either. e.g. page renaming in Excel comes under a layer called
 cells.  Fortunately, hot keys perform the most common functions in office,
 bypassing the need to overheat the tab keys.

 On 6/25/2015 10:55 AM, Londa Peterson wrote:
 I think it's easier for sighted people because more options are on the
 screen at a time where they can see them. I know a lot of sighted
 people who don't like them either. When you press the alt key, you can
 then right arrow across the upper ribbon to find the different tabs.
 If you press tab, you will be in 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Keyboard Configurations With Jaws

2015-06-26 Thread Kevin Lee

OH I wasn't following the thread!

-Original Message- 
From: Rick Justice

Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 8:15 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Keyboard Configurations With Jaws

Hi Kevin,
Yes, as long as it pertains to Jaws, the conversation drifted away from
that.

- Original Message - 
From: Kevin Lee klee...@gmail.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 8:45 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Keyboard Configurations With Jaws


I'm not argueing with you Rick, but in the guidelines doesn't it say
anything is free game!

-Original Message- 
From: Moderator

Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 5:36 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Keyboard Configurations With Jaws

If we are going to discuss keyboard configurations, then change the subject
line to show that!
And keep it related to Jaws.
If you want to reminisce, take it off list!

Richard Q. Justice-list moderator
jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com

- Original Message - 
From: Rose Combs roseco...@q.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 6:43 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010?


Well I am prehistoric then because it was 50 years ago this coming September
that I started learning to type on a manual typewriter.


Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com
A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the
memory!


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of j Bron
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 3:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010?

No I don't!  As far back as I can remember the tab key on the computer was
in the same place as the typewriter, another pre-historic relic.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 6:08 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010?

Of course, JAWS wasn't in the picture then, but do any of you remember when
the tab was where the function keys are now?

Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right. Henry Ford.

Carolyn

- Original Message -
From: Flor Lynch florl...@iol.ie
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 5:39 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010?



Yes, We've all been reduced to Ribbons, and they're here to stay. Now it'd
be nice if there were a tab key on the right of the keyboard as well as
just the one on the left! (It'd also protect JAWS from being swore at so
much in dialogues as well by users!)

-Original Message- 
From: Kimsan

Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 10:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010?

I understand, less is better.

Doesn't change the fact that they are here to stay.

I will admit though it drives me bonkers to tab a thousand times but if
one remembers all of the keytips or use the qat to their advantage then
all is better than before.  The qat, allows 9 items I think, so pick your
favorite 9.  Also, I think you can create your own ribbon with all of your
favorite keytips aalso to avoid all of that tabbing.
I think with enough time and patience one can modify it to their liking to
getter done.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 2:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010?

But you have to remember more shortcut keys, and more often, than in the
past! It takes longer to move around the ribbons.

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Lee
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 3:50 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010?

this is true while the drop down menus were replaced by the ribbons the
shortcut keys still work, so if you remember the shortcut keys your fine!

-Original Message-
From: Jim Pursley
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 7:25 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010?

I think Landa nailed it.  As Microsoft Office became more complex, pull
down menus did not enable most users to see more than a few controls
without going to sub menus.  Hence, the ribbon, which had been in use in
other software products, was adapted to replace much of the top line
apparatus. This said, not all ribbon controls are logical nor highly
visible either. e.g. page renaming in Excel comes under a layer called
cells.  Fortunately, hot keys perform the most common functions in office,
bypassing the need to overheat the tab keys.

On 6/25/2015 10:55 AM, Londa Peterson wrote:

I think it's easier for sighted people because more options are on the
screen at a time where they can see them. I know a lot of sighted
people 

[JAWS-Users] Needing information about Avira and JAWS

2015-06-26 Thread Allen Childs
Hello,
I am wondering if Avira will work with JAWS 16?  I have Win 8.1 and
Windows Defender, and I am looking for a better antivirus, preferably free.
Thanks for any help you can give.

Allen

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Outlook Freezes

2015-06-26 Thread Jim Pursley
I think that the keyboard command restart is preferable to the forced 
restart by pressing the small button in the vicinity of the son-off 
switch.  When I have been forced because of a locked keyboard to use the 
forced restart, I always get a non-JAWS readable Windows screen from 
which I must choose the restart option - normal or safe mode and one other.


On 6/26/2015 10:14 AM, Mario wrote:
if this has been mentioned already, nnext to the power bbutton is a 
reset/restart button usually smaller and sometimes flush or recessed. 
use it instead of doing a forced shutdown.




On 6/25/2015 11:00 PM, TheHangMan wrote:

 Hi,

I'm sure this happens a lot out there.


And the PC doesn't want to do anything and you're force to do a shut 
down.



Since, jaws is not responding, is there a way to do a restart, 
instead of

shutting down???


Thanks,


  Jorge

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Re: [JAWS-Users] messed up a computer with malware

2015-06-26 Thread Humberto Rodriguez
Hello Lenny:

Have you tried going to c:\program files\Internet Explorer\iexplorer.exe  to 
start IE from there?  If that works, just make a shortcut to it for the 
desktop, or pin it to the Start Menu or Task Bar.

Humberto


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Lenny McHugh
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 11:16 PM
To: JFW List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] messed up a computer with malware

I have never seen this before. My grandson’s girlfriends computer was 
running extremely slow and I was asked to help. What a mistake. I first did 
disk cleanup and internet options to delete history etc. This made no change 
but removed over a gig of junk. I then had her download malware bytes and 
run it.
It located 1,052 infections and removed them. It removed browser.exe and she 
can now not get on the internet. She is using a wireless card. It looks like 
her network is still there but the short cuts to internet explorer or her 
email are gone.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] How to print email message on Outlook 2010

2015-06-26 Thread George Martinez CPA
After you type CTRL + P it is easier to SHIFT TAB about 3 times.



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-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of TheHangMan
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 6:37 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How to print email message on Outlook 2010

Ed,
You have to use the tab  at lease 6 or 7 times.


Jorge
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Pinky
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 10:07 AM
To: JAWS-Users-List 2
Subject: [JAWS-Users] How to print email message on Outlook 2010

Hi Guys,

How do you print the email message in Outlook 2010. I am having a brain fart
this morning. I hit the crtl+P key but then I could not find the print
button.

Any help on this would be appreciated.

Ed

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010?

2015-06-26 Thread Bissett, Tom
It is always interesting how all of us use jaws in our own way.  What works for 
one doesn't necessarily work for some one else.  
I find it easier to remember where things are using the virtual ribbon rather 
than remembering all those key strokes.  After slogging through the ribbon 
enough times I have learned where to find what I need.
Tom Bisset
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Kimsan
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 5:50 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010?

I swear at my comp or jaws to keep it on list topics lol no matter where the 
keys are at haha.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 2:39 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010?

Yes, We've all been reduced to Ribbons, and they're here to stay. Now it'd be 
nice if there were a tab key on the right of the keyboard as well as just the 
one on the left! (It'd also protect JAWS from being swore at so much in 
dialogues as well by users!)

-Original Message-
From: Kimsan
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 10:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010?

I understand, less is better.

Doesn't change the fact that they are here to stay.

I will admit though it drives me bonkers to tab a thousand times but if one 
remembers all of the keytips or use the qat to their advantage then all is 
better than before.  The qat, allows 9 items I think, so pick your favorite 9.  
Also, I think you can create your own ribbon with all of your favorite keytips 
aalso to avoid all of that tabbing.
I think with enough time and patience one can modify it to their liking to 
getter done.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 2:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010?

But you have to remember more shortcut keys, and more often, than in the past! 
It takes longer to move around the ribbons.

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Lee
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 3:50 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010?

this is true while the drop down menus were replaced by the ribbons the 
shortcut keys still work, so if you remember the shortcut keys your fine!

-Original Message-
From: Jim Pursley
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 7:25 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010?

I think Landa nailed it.  As Microsoft Office became more complex, pull down 
menus did not enable most users to see more than a few controls without going 
to sub menus.  Hence, the ribbon, which had been in use in other software 
products, was adapted to replace much of the top line apparatus. 
This said, not all ribbon controls are logical nor highly visible either. 
e.g. page renaming in Excel comes under a layer called cells.  Fortunately, hot 
keys perform the most common functions in office, bypassing the need to 
overheat the tab keys.

On 6/25/2015 10:55 AM, Londa Peterson wrote:
 I think it's easier for sighted people because more options are on the 
 screen at a time where they can see them. I know a lot of sighted 
 people who don't like them either. When you press the alt key, you can 
 then right arrow across the upper ribbon to find the different tabs.
 If you press tab, you will be in the choices for that ribbon. The tab 
 key, in my opinion, is the most reliable way to move from item to item 
 on the lower ribbon. Control right and left arrow is supposed to move 
 you from group to group on the ribbon so that you can move through the 
 choices faster. You also have accelerators that will let you press a 
 series of letters to do things more quickly. Hope this helps a little.
 I know sighted people who don't like it either because they don't know 
 where things are. On the other hand, I know people who love it because 
 they can find obscure options more quickly.

 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
 On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
 Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 10:41 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010?

 Where in the world did Office 2010 and other newer programs come up 
 with this ribbon idea? It makes no sense to me. I just got some 
 directions, keep them handy and follow them. I guess it makes sense to 
 somebody.

 Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right. Henry 
 Ford.

 Carolyn

 - Original Message -
 From: Lenny McHugh lennymch...@comcast.net
 To: JFW List jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 10:40 PM
 Subject: 

Re: [JAWS-Users] General instructions for JAWS Research-It feature.

2015-06-26 Thread Carolyn Arnold

Glad you like it.

Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right. Henry Ford.

Carolyn

- Original Message - 
From: TheHangMan jorgethehang...@gmail.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 9:49 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] General instructions for JAWS Research-It feature.



Hi,
Thanks for the notes,
I had them buried.
Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right. Tim Ford.
You can thanks Carolyn for this quote...

Jorge
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Tim Ford

Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 8:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] General instructions for JAWS Research-It feature.

Hi All,

For others who have questions about how to fill in text to run a given
Research-It feature, do the following.

Go into Research-It by pressing insert and the space bar, then after the
beep tone, press the letter r.  That puts you in the text entry field. 
Tab

once and arrow to the feature you want.  Tab again, and you will be in a
text box you can read with the up an down arrow keys.  It describes just 
how
to enter/format the search information.  Use shift tab twice to get back 
to
the text entry field, enter your data, and press enter.  That's it! 
(There
are other features you will find if you continue to tab through.  Those 
are

all self-explanatory.

Tim Ford


-Original Message- 
From: Janie Degenshein

Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 4:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Converting currency with ResearchIt

Glad you had it work out for you
I like this feature and use it often
Happy using friend!

-Original Message- 
From: wayne smith

Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 6:11 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Converting currency with ResearchIt

That worked like a charm/doing it right.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Janie Degenshein
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 12:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Converting currency with ResearchIt

Here you go
Enter the amount followed by the currency type. Then, enter the currency
that
you wish to convert the entered amount to. For example, 100 U.S. dollars
converted to British pounds would be written as, 100 USD GBP. If you make 
a
mistake in the format, you will be provided a list of all the countries 
and

their currency codes to

-Original Message-
From: Cristóbal
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 12:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Converting currency with ResearchIt

Go to your help files from within the Jaws menus and navigate the treeview
or
topics or tab around from within ResearchIt itself. What you're looking 
for

should be there.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of wayne smith
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 9:50 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Converting currency with researchit

InsertF1 was of no help.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 11:36 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Converting currency with researchit

I don’t' use this feature, but I would have to imagine that this is 
outlined
in the corresponding help files. Either in the Jaws help menu or from 
within

the ResearchIt prompts.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of wayne smith
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 9:31 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Converting currency with researchit

Hello-I want to convert Mexican Pesos to US dollars and I wrote in this in
researchit in several different ways and I got nothing.  Can you tell me 
how

to write in the correct way to get the result?

Thanks in advance.



Wayne

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President, National Federation of the Blind of New Jersey Senior Division
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