[JOYnet] Suicide : A Query
Dear JYs We have recently read the 2 Part mails of Father Thomas on whether Sucide is a Sin or not. It was really a wonderful sharing. I had recently been for a Retreat. There the Priest had mentioned that a Person committing Suicide is as good as Handing over ur Soul to the Satan. My Question is : Considering that a person commits Suicide and knowing that his Soul is as good as lost. Is then fruitful then praying for his Soul or would it be waste to do so Please note i am not saying that it is waste to pray for any1. But considering in this case of suicide or like euthanasia whatever the case may be would it be fruitful then to pray for that soul. I would really love ur views on this. urs in faith Jason Mumbai _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. To unsubscribe, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to this mailing list, visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet For automatic help, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[JOYnet] He moulded me instead
He moulded me instead - by Sue Henly == I just had my 25th wedding anniversary. What an accomplishment. I've only contemplated divorce about 1 million times over the last 25 years, so you can imagine my surprise over reaching this milestone. I have been complaining about this man for about 9,125 daysgive or take a few days. My life is not how I envisioned it. Every major fight we've ever had has been over money. How you fight about something you don't have is beyond me. There was also the big fight over the candle light dinner I fixed...it seems he wants to see what he eats! He has seldom paid me a compliment. He rarely buys me presents. He won't learn how to massage my back. He won't wear shorts or swim trunks. We have only been on one family vacation in 25 years. He has never disciplined our girls, thus leaving me as the repeated bad guy! He refuses to go grocery shopping and continues to sneak and smoke after a bilateral carotid endartectomy. AND he spends way too much time in his recliner! This same man wouldn't miss a day of work unless he was half dead and he hands over his check every payday. He would drive day and night to pick up either of our girls if they needed him. He loves my mom and Granny almost as much as I do. If you called him and said, "I'm Sue's friend, we've never met and my car won't start".he would be out of the door in a flash to help you out. What an incredible father he has been. I know he loves our girls as much as I do! He has never complained about how much I've spent on either childno matter how out of budget I went. Since he knows how I hate to cookhe hasn't complained (much) about the 20,000 fast food meals we've consumed. He almost drowned as a childwhich is why he doesn't swim...and maybe if we didn't make fun of his ultra white legs.he'd wear shorts. He doesn't drink alcohol and is forbidden to use the words that are unacceptable to children's ears (and mine). He hates to leave our sleepy little town.but, encourages me to go where I want to and he always seems happy to see me as I make it back up the driveway. I cannot begin to tell you the number of conversations I've had with God about him. "Lord, I'm so UNhappy. Life is too short and I know you don't want me to be UNhappy!" He'd whisper."Make yourself happy with him, Sue" "I can't live with him another minute, Lord. You're up there watching the whole vast universe and I don't think you see me down here, miserable!" "Oh, I see you. I'm here, always and forever. Speak to me." "I am speaking to you! I want to have some peace in my life, you know, Lordbut I don't want you mad at me! He's driving me crazy!" "And he's doing what?" "First of allhe's breathing my air!" "THAT'S NOT GOOD ENOUGH, SUE!" I spent so many years praying for God to change him. God doesn't play fair sometimes. It seems that all along God was changing me. I had to come face to face with the fact that 'submissiveness' just isn't my best quality. (Not even close!) But, I spend a small part of each day working on it. I was so busy with my girls and my life that I didn't realize how little of myself I gave to him. I concentrated on the fact that we were polar opposites and he would never be able to fill that part of me that needed filled. I didn't realize I wasn't playing fair either because I hadn't reached into myself to give him the part of me that needed nurturing. The poor man was walking in the dark. He didn't have a clue. I think we both wondered if love was enough. We were at a family reunion and someone asked where he was. I gleefully told them he was working overtime! Someone said, "Poor Leonard." It's become a family joke to say "Poor Leonard" because it grates on my last nerve! My own mother looked at me and said, "Do you notice no one ever says, "Poor Sue"? It felt like ice water had been dumped on my head. It was SO very true! That day my eyes started to open. So, at the ripe old age of 47, I've learned that happiness is a state of mind. You can be hopelessly in love and decide you don't want to be happy. He still does things that drive me totally over the edge. But, I am receiving the nuturing that I have so long desired. I made up my mind that's he's not responsible for my happiness with him.I am. I can hold grudges over what he's not done or done badlyor I embrace all the fine things he does so well. So this morning, and hopefully every morning for the next 50 years, I choose to keep my family whole, to love with all my heart and please God and myself. Sue Henley [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. To unsubscribe, send a m
Re: [JOYnet] the copy cat
Dear Lina & Other JYs It is really humurous to know that Josun copied Leena's dog name and he becomes a Copy Cat. He should be a Copy Dog. hehehe For me I guess the only good reason I can think of Lina trying to sue for Violation is that because after 5 years of LL.B. she is now compatible to be an Advocate. Hence you can proudly see that Adv. in front of her name. So all those seeking to file litigations can always refer her. The sharing of Josun as usual was good. There are so many of us who take such moments for granted and then with such sharings we do have to remember that every moments of Joy and happiness in our family do count with praise to our Lord. I love the part when he used all the Surf Ariel to clean the puppy. Reminds me of the Advertisement of Surf Excel (not Ariel) they show on our TVs. I think many of us have seen it. But for those who havent. It basically shows how clean clothes become so dirty that it would be unimaginable for the owner to wash them. Till someone comes and says the most important caption of the Ad "Ghar par Surf Excel hain na".[You have Surf Excel at home rite]. which would mean that as long as u have Surf Excel at home, then why worry about how much your clothes can get dirty. It reminds us that as long Jesus is there within our heart then no matter which way we are rubbed or how much dirt in life is thrown on us after all "Dil mean Jesus hain na". And then lets remember from this great episode of Josun and his Mom. "A Little Massaging gives a good Messaging." hehe so go pamper the Lord it is surely gonna pay u dividends . urs in faith Jason Mumbai Never frown, even when you are sad, because you never know who is falling in love with your smile. _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. To unsubscribe, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to this mailing list, visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet For automatic help, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[JOYnet] 2 New Faces on JoyNet
Dear JYs First of all I would like to wish you all a Happy Sacred Heart Feast. Yep today is the Big F - of our beloved Sacred Heartof Jesus. Its so unusual, no mails so far wishing us all abt the Feast. Anyways I take this opportunity to introduce two new faces on Joynet. Both are from Mumbai. 1) Jennifer D'souza ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - I guess you all must have got her email by now titled "Birthday Wishes - Thanx". We are blessed to have two Jennifer's from Mumbai now out here on Joynet. So as usual there were some of us who did get confused in replying to her. Jennifer is a good friend and former office colleague of our own Welchy and after hearing so much about us wonderful people :) she has joined us. At present she is in the prayer grp of her parish. I had an opportunity of meeing her recently and is a wonderful person to know. 2) Jefferson Herbert ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - Yeah my own brother. Actually more my funee half... :) After finally filling his head for over a year with the wonderful moments experienced by me with u wonderful ppl., he has finally joined us. My brother has just given his TY exams and is awaiting his results patiently which are due any moment so do keep him in ur prayers. Anwyays hoping to find more ppl signing up and more wonderful sharings out here on JY. with best wishes in faith Jason Mumbai _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. To unsubscribe, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to this mailing list, visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet For automatic help, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[JOYnet] The Difference of One
Can one dime make a difference? Here is a woman who turned a dime into millions of dollars. Her name was Martha Berry. This clever woman founded the Berry School in Rome, Georgia. She scraped together funds from every source possible. One day she approached Henry Ford, of Ford automobile fame, and asked for a contribution. Patronizingly, he reached into his pocket and pulled out a dime. Rather than be insulted or discouraged by the "gift," Miss Berry bought a package of seed peanuts with it. The seeds were planted and tended, and they eventually yielded a large crop, which she later sold. Again she called on Mr. Ford. "Here's the dime you gave me last year," she said, handing him a coin. Then she told him of the return she had realized from his token investment. Ford was so impressed that, in the years to come, he gave millions of dollars to the school. Can one dime make a difference? Yes, if we invest it well. How about one hour of your time? Can it make a difference? Or how about the life of one person? Can a life like yours or mine really make a difference? The answer to each of these questions is the same: Yes, if we invest it well. Now...how are your investments doing? >From Steve Goodier's TOUCHING MOMENTS . _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. To unsubscribe, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to this mailing list, visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet For automatic help, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[JOYnet] Lord Jesus Let Me Know Myself
Lord Jesus Let Me Know Myself by St. Augustine of Hippo Lord Jesus, let me know myself and know You, And desire nothing save only You. Let me hate myself and love You. Let me do everything for the sake of You. Let me humble myself and exalt You. Let me think of nothing except You. Let me die to myself and live in You. Let me accept whatever happens as from You. Let me banish self and follow You, And ever desire to follow You. Let me fly from myself and take refuge in You, That I may deserve to be defended by You. Let me fear for myself, let me fear You, And let me be among those who are chosen by You. Let me distrust myself and put my trust in You. Let me be willing to obey for the sake of You. Let me cling to nothing save only to You, And let me be poor because of You. Look upon me, that I may love You. Call me that I may see You, And for ever enjoy You. Amen. urs in faith Jason Mumbai _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. To unsubscribe, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to this mailing list, visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet For automatic help, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[JOYnet] May this Bring a smile on ye faces
Hoping that this catches you all in the best of humour: A businessman who needed a hundred thousand dollars to clinch an important deal went to church to pray for the money. By chance he knelt next to a man who was praying for $100 to pay an urgent debt. The businessman took out his wallet and pressed $100 into the other man's hand. Overjoyed, the man got up and left the church. The businessman then closed his eyes and prayed, "And now, Lord, that I have your undivided attention..." = Timmy was a little five year old boy that his Mom loved very much and, being a worrier, she was concerned about him walking to school when he started Kindergarten. She walked him to school the couple of days but when he came home one day, he told his mother that he did not want her walking him to school everyday. He wanted to be like the "big boys." He protested loudly, so she finally got an idea of how to handle it. She asked a neighbor, Mrs. Goodnest, if she would surreptitiously follow her son to school, at a distance behind him that he would not likely notice, but close enough to keep a watch on him. Mrs. Goodnest said that since she was up early with her toddler anyway, it would be a good way for them to get some exercise as well so she agreed. The next school day, Mrs. Goodnest and her little girl, Marcy, set out following behind Timmy as he walked to school with another neighbor boy he knew. She did this for the whole week. As the boys walked and chatted, kicking stones and twigs, the little friend of Timmy noticed that this same lady was following them as she seemed to do every day all week. Finally, he said to Timmy, "Have you noticed that lady following us all week? Do you know her?" Timmy nonchalantly replied, "Yea, I know who she is." The little friend said, "Well who is she?" "That's just Shirley Goodnest" Timmy said. "Shirley Goodnest? Who the heck is she and why is she following us?" "Well," Timmy explained, "every night my Mom makes me say the 23rd Psalm with my prayers 'cuz she worries about me so much. And in it, the prayer psalm says, "Shirley Goodnest and Marcy shall follow me all the days of my life." so I guess I'll just have to get used to it. = Psalm 23:6. Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life: and I will dwell in the house of the Lord for ever. OCCUPATIONAL HYMNS Just A Little Something To Make You Laugh The Dentist's Hymn:.Crown Him with Many Crowns The Weatherman's Hymn:There Shall Be Showers of Blessings The Contractor's Hymn:...The Church's One Foundation The Tailor's Hymn:..Holy, Holy, Holy The Golfer's Hymn:..There's a Green Hill Far Away The Politician's Hymn:Standing on the Promises The Optometrist's Hymn:.Open My Eyes That I Might See The IRS Agent's Hymn:...I Surrender All The Gossip's Hymn:..Pass It On The Electrician's Hymn:.Send The Light The Shopper's Hymn:Sweet By and By The Realtor's Hymn:.I've Got a Mansion, Just Over The Hilltop The Massage Therapists Hymn...He Touched Me The Doctor's Hymn:..The Great Physician For those who speed on the highway - a few hymns: 45mphGod Will Take Care of You 55mphGuide Me, O Thou Great Jehovah 65mphNearer My God To Thee 75mphNearer Still Nearer 85mphThis World Is Not My Home 95mphLord, I'm Coming Home 100mph.Precious Memories Give me a sense of humor, Lord, Give me the grace to see a joke, To get some humor out of life And pass it on to other folk. urs in faith Jason, Mumbai _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. To unsubscribe, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to this mailing list, visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet For automatic help, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[JOYnet] Uncle Joseph Lonth in India
Dear JYs Welchy has asked me to inform you wonderful people that the Dear Uncle of Joynet, Joseph Lonth will be in Mumbai shortly. Apparently Uncle Joseph Lonth will be in Mumbai on June 21 night and u can call him early on June 22 at (022) 6121086. urs in faith Jason Mumbai P.S. Welchy was unable to send this mail as rite now she is grooving at Priya's Wedding... hehe... so dont forget to catch up with her as well at Priya's Wedding. _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. To unsubscribe, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to this mailing list, visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet For automatic help, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[JOYnet] The Force Be With Who ? ? ? - referring to Irma's and Welchy's Mail
[This mail refers to Irma's mail; sharing of Welchy and Star Wars, the Movie] Dear JYs. I would like you all to refer to two wonderful emails sent here by Irma Raymond on Harry Potter on 23-4-2002 and by Welchy Fatima Fernandes on behalf of Christopher on Reiki on 9 - 5 - 2002. Now obviously one can gradually perceive that the basic bottomline of both emails is that Satan can be envisaged in different forms. But when you read both these emails closely u realise that the tool used by Satan is so well disguised. Let us refer to Irma's mail. I invite your attention to this para: "The "Christian" leaders, however, defend them by saying that good magic always wins and overcomes evil magic. This is the oldest con game ever hatched out of hell. As a real witch, I learned about the two sides of "the force." Apparently, so do many "Christian" leaders. When real witches have sabats and esbats and meet as a coven, they greet each other by saying "Blessed be", and when they part, they say "The Force be with you." Both sides of this "Force" are satan. It is not a good side of the force that overcomes the bad side of the force, but rather it's the blood of Jesus Christ that destroys both supposed sides of the satanic "Force." Now let us refer to Christopher's mail. I invite your attention to this para: Reiki is a subset of a system of medicine known as Alternative therapy or medicines of the New Age. What is the NAM? It is a rapidly growing movement with people who believe in a one world government embodying the best in all religions which will eventually take over the world. It encompasses Astrology, Pantheism, Reincarnation, Channeling(a medium thru which people long since dead communicate), Witchcraft and Paganism So what is common between the two. Let us look at some of the concepts of NAM - The New Age Movement. * A group of divinely born and ascended masters are in tune with the Force. * Because of divine birth, the Force lives in the blood of each master. * Occasionally, a new master is born equally in tune with the Force. * The new master illustrates how others can live in harmony with the Force then takes his place among the ascended masters. * Another master will come along at the right time to help us feeble humans. In this way, New Age theology prepares the world for the coming of the False Prophet and the Antichrist. Now my dear JYs I am going to ask you to recognise this phrase from Irma's mail which I quoted in the para above: "The Force be with you." Any quesses. It is the famous line from the Trilogy of Star Wars. The epic movie. It is supposed to be a movie for children. But then so is Harry Potter a book for Children rite? New Age Theology speaks of the second coming of a Master. Let us see some films with the same concept. They all show man seeking for one thing - The Chosen One. These include films like: 1. Star Wars - The Trilogy 2. Matrix 3. Terminator and many more. Let us take a look at Star Wars. Now why am I chosing this Movie to discuss here. Well glaringly this movie directly brings out use of the words such as The force and in so many ways goes against the teachings of Christ. It proclaims the teachings of NAM indirectly. You can pass this film as just a fable. However, being one of the top grosser of all times, it takes realisation to know what you accepted to be a great film turns to out to preach so much against Jesus Christ. Here are some of the glaring points on the film. * In the Star Wars saga the Savior ironically becomes Anakin Skywalker (Darth Vader). In The Phantom Menace Anakin is referred to as the one who will bring balance to the Force. The message is: the one that has always been perceived as evil (Darth Vader/Satanic Personality) ultimately becomes the savior in the end = set up for Antichrist * Anakin (anakim, sons of Anak) were supernaturally conceived of Satan or demons according to Biblical and extra-biblical histories. * As Jesus was the divinely conceived "seed of the woman," the Antichrist will be the "seed of the serpent," i.e. the son of Satan or demons. Anakin is the son of the Force. * The Antichrist will nevertheless present himself as an enlightened world teacher or savior. The New Age "Law of the Avatars" claims that every new age begins when the Supreme Being known as "the Solar Logos," a.k.a. the god of Forces, overshadows a human being and imparts the Christ consciousness. * The God of the Antichrist will be "the God of Forces" (Dan. 11:38), also known in antiquity as Baalhazor, the god of munitions and war and protector of fortresses. * Finally, Qui-Gon Jinn's name comes from a combination of Taoism and Arabic mythology. In Taoism Qi-Gong combines "Qi," the energy or "force" that flows within and around everything, and "Gong" the method of interacting with or controlling the Force (learned through meditation). Jinn (or genie, plural Jinn) is part of Arabic mythology and consists of Ghul
[JOYnet] Pray for Welchy
Dear JYs Please keep Welchy in your Prayers. Today, 25th April at 11.30am she has an important Meeting with her boss which is very important with regards to her future in the Company. Her boss has promised her a lot of things. However till now nothing has yet been done. Hence she plans to clear a lot of things at this Meeting. Do Keep her in your prayers as she is really looking forward to this Meeting. Also do pray for her computer situation in her office as recently most of her Office Computers had crashed cause of virus and the blame almost came on her. As a result for the past few days she is unable to receive and read any JY mails or check her email acct. urs in faith Jason Mumbai _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. To unsubscribe, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to this mailing list, visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet For automatic help, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[JOYnet] I NEED A FAVOUR
OOPS IT APPEARS I SENT A BLANK MAIL. ANYWAYS... A BROTHER FROM TABOR ASHRAM, KALYAN WHO IS IN CHARGE OF PRINTING OF PRAYER BOOKS THERE HAS ASKED ME TO COLLECT SOME NICE PHOTOS OF JESUS CHRIST FROM THE NET. BECAUSE HE WANTS TO USE IT IN HIS NEW PRAYER BOOK FOR THE ASHRAM... CAN U GUYS PL FORWARD ME ANY NICE PHOTOS OF JESUS OR ANY LINK WHERE I CAN SAVE SOME I HAVE TO GIVE IT TO HIM NEXT WEEK... SO PLSS I CAN DO WITH SOME HELP. URS IN FAITH JASON _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. To unsubscribe, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to this mailing list, visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet For automatic help, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[JOYnet] I NEED A FAVOUR
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[JOYnet] You shouldnt have by Tom Norvell
As she opened her diamond necklace she was overcome with joy. You shouldnt have! she said, But, Im certainly glad you did. He unwrapped the box inside the box inside the box inside the box inside the box, and finally he worked his way to the tiny box containing a key to his new car. As he went to the driveway and unlocked the door he said, You shouldnt have! he said, But, man am I glad you did! She was dreading spending her first Christmas all alone, and her children called to say they were not going to be able to get there this year. There were just too many things going on. She understood and prepared to make the best of a difficult situation. She was curious when the doorbell rang so late in the day, but when she peeked through the window to see who it was she was thrilled. There they stood, children and grandchildren, smiling and bearing gifts. As she opened the door tears were flowing down her face and she said, You shouldnt have! You shouldnt have. But, I am so very glad you did! I am so very glad you did! He was preparing to eat alone like he had done every Christmas since his wife has died. So, he was shocked when he went to the door and saw the family from his church standing there with gifts, a full meal, and singing, We Wish You a Merry Christmas. He knew this year would be different. He was glad he would not be alone. You shouldnt have! he said with a quiver in his voice. But, Im real glad you did! I could not stop thinking about all the things I had done wrong. Unkind words. Selfish attitudes. Sins I had committed. I had been a lousy example. I did not feel very good about myself. Then, I heard the story again. Immanuel. God with us. To seek and save the lost. The blind receive sight, the lame are walking, the imprisoned are set free, and good news to the poor. I have come that you might have life and have it to the full. It is finished! He is risen! Peace be with you! Tears filled my eyes. I fell to my knees and I cried, Lord, you shouldnt have! But, I am eternally grateful you did. Enjoy His gift and Merry Christmas! _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. To unsubscribe, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to this mailing list, visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet For automatic help, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JOYnet] Drinking - reply to Christine's mail
I do agree with Smiju. i mean like music. the viles of drinking can be debated upon 4ever. and wot could be even worse is that... there are many who use to bible to support their claim. I was remember reading an Article in the Don Bosco Madonna and there it was written that in those days... wine wasnt treated as an alcohol. wot the bible actually spoke abt wine was that it was used as a digestive when people ate food. times have changed. in those days. u had wine today in the same way we drink water after we eat our food.its not that in those day they didnt have water just that wine was more preferred... the bible condemned the consumption of wine in the context of it being used as an Alcohol urs in faith Jason - Original Message - From: Smiju Joseph <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Jesus Youth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 11:48 AM Subject: Re: [JOYnet] Drinking - reply to Christine's mail > Dear Christine > > I don't know I am right or wrong. If it is wrong > excuse me. Comming to the point. It felt me like that > u wrote this mail to justify something:) I don't know > what it is. > Do you know one thing.. if we argue on this subject we > will never get into a conclusion. Yes, we can find > words from bible which supports and objects drinking. > > Just we should ask a simple question. Which is good > drinking alcohol or not drinking ? (It should be 'Yes' > or 'No' no other statements) and the other one is what > moral we give to the society by drinking ? > find the answer. > > with lots of lov & prayers > smiju joseph, abu dabhi > > Praise God > with lots of lov & prayers > smiju joseph, abu dhabi > > > > > --- Christine Antony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Here's a thought: if God so disliked drinking, would > > Christ have turned > > water into wine at the Wedding Feast of Canaan? > > It's not like He would do > > that if drinking was something that God disapproved > > of, right? Or why would > > Christ change water and wine into his blood? Why > > not change pure water into > > his divine blood, why wine? Wine has more alcoholic > > content than beer. > > Water is much more accessible than wine in many > > parts of the world. So why > > would Christ do that if it were wrong? > > > > Drinking is an attitude. Anything done in excess or > > done in the wrong > > mind-set is never good. Don't drink excessively. > > Don't drink to get drunk. > > Drinking wine to compliment a meal that is being > > eaten, I think, is fine. > > Eating too much makes you sick, too. Does that mean > > that eating is bad? > > Even taking too many vitamins isn't good. That too > > gives a bad stomach > > ache. > > > > In Christ, > > Christine > > > > > _ > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > > http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > > > ** > > This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth > > mailing list. > > To unsubscribe, send a mail to > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For automatic help, send a mail to > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > In case of any issue related to the mailing list > > contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To know more about Jesus Youth, visit > > http://www.jesusyouth.org > > > ** > > ** > This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. > To unsubscribe, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For automatic help, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To know more about Jesus Youth, visit http://www.jesusyouth.org > ** ** This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. To unsubscribe, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For automatic help, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] To know more about Jesus Youth, visit http://www.jesusyouth.org **
[JOYnet] Recent Prayer Requests
THESE ARE THE RECENT PRAYER REQUESTS I HAVE RECEIVED = === I am asking for prayer for my son. He is fighting a drug addition. He was doing good for the last month or so and for some reason he keeps the door open for the devile to keep telling just one more time. He went out again last night and came back today very mad at all of us. I know that this is one of the after affects of the drug, but so how it was different today. His wife and I fast and pray for him every Thursday and we did that today, but again today was different. The Holy Sprit lead to my computer tonight to ask for pray, because the Lord is about to do somthing in his life and I can feel it. So please pray with me for my son Anton Campbell. Thank you, Diana Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] My name is Ethel. I want you to pray for Pauline Roe, 8 years old, who was hit by a vehicle in front of my house, after dashing into the street to get to the other side to see her friend. The vehicle that hit her, belongs to one of my neighbors, and, boy! does he feel bad about what he did, though it was only an accident. Pauline is at Children's Hospital Los Angeles, in a coma, coming out of it, but, slowly, not able to recognize her family at this time. This took place while I was at Church and my husband, Lloyd was elsewhere taking care of Ethel White business. Ethel [EMAIL PROTECTED] === My nephew Andy has been in a tragic motor vechicle accident while stationed in germany he has contuisions of the brain and severe lung blister damage and is on a ventalitor, he is fighting for his life, need prayer for him and his parents (lois douglas) [EMAIL PROTECTED] URGENT PRAYER REQUEST FOR MY PARENTS - URGENT HELP NEEDED! Please pray for my mother's salvation and her deliverance from the powers of darkness. Several weeks ago, I observed my 73 years old natural mother tainting my 80 years old natural father's orange juice with I believe a poison. As a result, my father was hospitalized for a week. Rather than living at home with my mother, my dad is now in a board and care facility due to the recommendations from the attending physician and the Adult Protective Service. I believe my mother wants my father who has Alzheimer "dead" in order to collect on his life insurance and not have to pay for the exorbitant cost of his care at a nursing facility. No evidence of poisoning was obtained and I did not want to pursue charges against my mother. Of course, she denied my allegation when I privately confronted her and is saying to everyone that I must be having some kind of break down to have accursed her of trying to kill my dad. I now believe she has paid someone to kill me by working witchcraft against me so that she can continue with her more cautious plans against my dad. In addition to praying for my mother's salvation and her deliverance from the powers of darkness as she is not saved, please cover my mother as well as my father with the blood of Christ Jesus because these evil spirits made be attacking them also...as well as myself. URGENT PRAYER REQUEST FOR MYSELF I urgently need deliverance from evil spirits that have been tormenting me for 14 years. I have an urgent need for healing (big time). Lost health 14 years ago when evil spirits started tormenting me. With healing I need to lose 120 pounds. I urgently need a permanent job, and immediate prosperity (money) in order to pay three months rent or face eviction. I am a born again believer in Christ Jesus. I've been standing against these attacks but have grown very weary. I need a lot of help to stand as I am very tire and depressed. Help, Lord Jesus? I need your miracles right now. Thank you, Velva Garrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. To unsubscribe, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For automatic help, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] To know more about Jesus Youth, visit http://www.jesusyouth.org **
Re: [JOYnet] Tithing!!
Hi JYs. The topic on Tithin is really a refreshing one. Dr. Sindhu i do remember a similar discussion held.. I do remember that there were two sets of people... One set of people who felt that.. since it is God who gives us. why should we give it back to him. God has given for our use...The other ... set of people.. felt that... since it is God who gives us. everything is rightfully his so even 10% seems less... While it was difficult to resolve the first set of people.. the second set of people. felt it was a joy to give.. then a survey was taken among the two sets.. and what was found to be surprising was that most ... of the people in the first set. were people who..earned a relativley high payscale.. and the people in the second set were people who... earned a relatively low payscale..were basically the ordinary working class.. However I have noticed one thing... that when people talk about Tithe they only think in regard of giving 10% of their earnings to God... I remember during one of the retreat at Divine, it was specifically that not only 10% of our salary but atleast 10% of our time as well should be given to God. hmmm now let me see.. how many of us can spend 2.4 hrs with God out of 24 hrs in a day. 10% of our lives dedicated to the lords work... that makes 36.5 days a year.. gosh i remember the discussion some of us youth had after the talk when we had to break up for tea. many of them had already resigned to their faith that spending 2.4 hrs a day doing gods work or even 36.5 days was impossible. Then when some of us had gone to the Brother who had given the talk.. he told us how simple it was he said if we went for mass daily.. read the bible daily... said the rosary daily.. and said our personal prayers we can make up. 2.4 hrs a day ... Then we asked him how do we spend 36.5 days in a year with the lord he said there are atleast 52 Sundays in a year out of 52 Sundays cant we atleast spend 37 totally with him doing his will. Wot is 37 sundays as compared to 313 weekdays where we spend time on our jobs , entertainments etc. I remember a retreat which I had gone for at Kalyan and the Rev. Father incharge there was giving an example on Tithing which went like this: After one of my talks on tithing, a young man came up to me with a problem. He told me "Father when I was earning a salary of Rs. 1000 I used to regularly give a tithe of Rs. 100. Then I got a promotion and very soon another promotion and now my salary is Rs. 10,000. Now Father if I am to give tithe it will come to Rs. 1000/- my god... that is a big amount. Please pray Father that God may work something out". So I prayed for that young man and I prayed like this "Oh Heavenly Father you have been so kind enough on my brother here. However he is in a bit of bother. You see. when he was earning Rs. 1000/- he was in a position to give you 10% of his earning as Tithe. However, now look at him ... after you have blessed him with a bigger salary he is finding it difficult to pay you 10% and it is making him sad. Hence please make his salary Rs. 1000/- again." . hehe... it seems... the man got up with a shock.. and. he asked Father Mathew for forgiveness. However, what affects me on Tithing is that there are some parishes that I have come to know about where the Parish Priest has actually gone door to door... demanding Tithe from the parishners... I do believe giving Tithe depends solely on an individual... even though it is required by our faith. In this regard I need your views.do correct me if i am wrong in some aspects :) urs in faith Jason, Mumbai - Original Message - From: Shimmy J. Charles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Jesus Youth World Wide <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2001 8:54 AM Subject: [JOYnet] Tithing!! > Dear Friends in Jesus > So happy to find a beautiful topic discussed on Joy net. > Thank you Dr. Sindhu for letting the fire blaze. > I have hardly heard any body sharing about Tithing.even in our prayer > groups. > Don't know why every body take it as an Orthodox practice!! > People are spending some money, but nobody checks whether it is coming to > at least 10%they don't want to call it a 'tithing'. > We need to spread this good practise > What Dr. Sindhu shared is exactly true, if all JY's can maintain there > tithing account properly, they don't have to run for money before and after > each program. > > I have a little doubt, if somebody knows the exact thing do share. > Once I heard somewhere that "the amount we spend in the name of tithing > should be purely for evangelisation purpose!" >
[JOYnet] PRayer Request
Dear Friends I received this Prayer Request recently = My husband and I are divorced but for over 2 years I feel like God has been telling me to let Him restore our marriage. Neither of us have remarried; although my husband is not interested in restoration. I know that nothing is too difficult for God; and that though my situation my look hopeless, in God's eyes it is not. Please agree in prayer with me that God will soften my husband's heart and turn his heart back to God, his children, and to me (the wife of his youth). Pray also for my husband's salvation...that he will make Christ the Lord of his life. Thank you! Cindy [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. To unsubscribe, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For automatic help, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] To know more about Jesus Youth, visit http://www.jesusyouth.org **
[JOYnet] Prayer Partners
I am sorry for sending out this Public mail but sometime ago a mail had appeared here... talking about.. prayer partners.. after that i did some info... abt it and i got a detailed reply thanx to a blessed soul out there... I would like to have a prayer partner please can i have the email add or the site which i shld visit for this purpose.. urs in faith Jason ** This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. To unsubscribe, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For automatic help, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] To know more about Jesus Youth, visit http://www.jesusyouth.org **
[JOYnet] Do we take God for granted ???
One day a group of eminent scientists got together and decided that Man had come a long way and no longer needed God. So they picked one scientist to go and tell Him that they were done with Him. The scientist walked up to God and said, "God, we've decided that we no longer need You. We're to the point that we can clone people and do many miraculous things, so why don't You just retire?" God listened very patiently to the man and then said, "Very well, but first, how about this, let's have a Man-making contest." To which the scientist replied, "OK, great!" But God added, "Now, we're going to do this just like I did back in the old days with Adam." The scientist said, "Sure, no problem" and bent down and grabbed himself a handful of dirt. God just looked at him and said, "No, no, no. You go get your own dirt!" = This was supposed to be a joke which i got from my friend. At first it did seemed as one of those jokes amongst the many others which i received. But as i was about to read the next joke i just realised that how much of God we do need in our daily lives... things that we take for granted. The ground we walk on, the air we breathe, the bed we sleep on, even the power to read this email is given by God. And yet i wonder how many of us do thank him for all this. I guess if we were to thank god for everything in detail that he has given and done for us we would have to take a vacation from all our daily duties. Now i would like your comments on two questions cause i am sure that your views will certainly increase my faith and others here. 1. WHY DOES MAN TAKE GOD FOR GRANTED IN SO MANY WAYS... AND YET 2. Y DOES GOD TAKE CARE OF MAN IN EACH AND EVERY MINUTE DETAILS IN WHICH HE IS TAKEN GRANTED FOR BY MAN urs in faith Jason ** This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. To unsubscribe, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For automatic help, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] To know more about Jesus Youth, visit http://www.jesusyouth.org **
