[jQuery] Re: libraries
1.you just dont need to put ids in li element. All what you want to do is
doable only with on id on the root ul.
Do do that , you should use relative selectors such as:
$tree = $('#mytree');
$('li', $tree).doSomething();
2.ok
3.yes it is the correct design.
4.licence. if you want to attract peoples, you may consider adding also a
less restrictive licence, sucha s MIT.
Olivier
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 6:59 PM, Dirceu Barquette
dirceu.barque...@gmail.com wrote:
- think your plugin is tied to specific ids on each node. This should not
be necessary.
I didn't understand this sentence...
- the plugin is calling directly image to decorate the tree, I think it
should be done via options.
You are right. It will be done for the next version!
(google : jquery plugin pattern)
I did it already in 0.1 version (thanks to Mike Alsup - nice tutorial)
- you've a method new_node and then one named insert_node. confusing.
new_node intend to be private method, and insert_node is the public
method that uses new_node method. If its wrong try to explain me correct
implementation, please!
other than that, nice, very nice, for somebody that is just learning
english.
My brother is an excellent English writer and translator...
you've ambitious scripts.
thank you very much I want to share these projects with developers. Do
you want colaborate? All of them is GPL!!!
correct URL. forgive me.
http://calango.barquettenet.net/~dirceu/isabela/jquery.isabela_drawhttp://calango.barquettenet.net/%7Edirceu/isabela/jquery.isabela_draw
2008/12/17 Olivier Percebois-Garve perceb...@gmail.com
quick comments:
- think your plugin is tied to specific ids on each node. This should not
be necessary.
- the plugin is calling directly image to decorate the tree, I think it
should be done via options. (google : jquery plugin pattern)
actually the best is to use css clases for the different states and
decorate them using css.
- you've a method new_node and then one named insert_node. confusing.
other than that, nice, very nice, for somebody that is just learning
english. you've ambitious scripts.
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 5:49 PM, Dirceu Barquette
dirceu.barque...@gmail.com wrote:
I think the thread just ended. :D
If you have some time, download and comment my plugins:
http://jqtreevial.sourceforge.net
And:
http;//isabeladraw.sourceforge.net (official versioning)
http://calango.barquettenet.net/~dirceu/isabela/jquery.isabela_drawhttp://calango.barquettenet.net/%7Edirceu/isabela/jquery.isabela_draw(nightly
version)
Thank you very much!
2008/12/17 Olivier Percebois-Garve perceb...@gmail.com
Don't worry with your english, I'm not a native.
So you want to know how to make json request ?
Do you still have a question, or do you want just to discuss stuffs ?
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 5:21 PM, Dirceu Barquette
dirceu.barque...@gmail.com wrote:
The initial question was just about libraries.
The thread now pointing to CMS. This is my goal! Write in English about
this is so much difficult to me.
I have been doing many apps (my job...) using jquery.
I follow this group just to learn more with others developers. When I
have some dummy doubt about jQuery I just googlit and voila!! jQuery is
a
fatastic tool!! But I want much more and it is truely possible using
jQuery
thoughts.
This is just a dream, but reachable: View components builded with
jQuery that can request data from server (controller). Controller can be
builded using any language you wish, but the answer just is a JSON! jQuery
read easy this answer and put data in the component previously created.
You
know?
Thanks again for your interest!
Dirceu Barquette
2008/12/17 Olivier Percebois-Garve perceb...@gmail.com
using a MVC framework such as cakephp or zend framework, you can put
the html in a view, and on top of that view insert the js. If you use the
head helper, you can make it be inserted between in the head/head.
same for css.
The I advice you to put your javascript code into seperate files, one
for each plugins.
This way, every time a view is requested, the relevant js will be
called, and with HTML + js + css, you've your widget.
Is that answering your question ?
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 4:38 PM, Dirceu Barquette
dirceu.barque...@gmail.com wrote:
Forgive me the wrong words and semanthics. My mind is a tool for
automatic translation...
You are right about new thread. But in other words I want build the
view part only. To do this I need some IDE. See this IDE like a GUI
builder (with components ready to use).
Second:
If an user wants a list, he doesn't need write:
$('li/')
.attr({id:'li-1'})
.css({list-style-image:'url(./imgs/blah.png)'})
.addClass('generalList')
.text('blah')
.appendTo('#ul-id');
End users just wants: click on the element and choice what he
wants.
Put these two topics together and you have an application that build
[jQuery] Re: libraries
jQuery's API is intuitive by nature, you should learn by heart.
On Dec 16, 5:41 pm, Ricardo Tomasi ricardob...@gmail.com wrote:
Ah now I see what you mean.
You can download the extensions for Dreamweaver or IntelliSense
athttp://xtnd.us/dreamweaver/jqueryhttp://www.mustafaozcan.net/en/post/2008/06/15/JQuery-1-2-6-Intellise...
But I think it's more productive to rewrite it from scratch in your
own format. The Intellisense code is embedded in the comments of the
script itself, you'd have to create a parser for that.
On Dec 16, 8:09 pm, Dirceu Barquette dirceu.barque...@gmail.com
wrote:
OK. CSV isn't required...
All the IDE has {css,tagHtml}attrs or jQuery{attr,methods} auto-complete
cappable . If I have these lists, auto-completing is easy... isn't it?
Thanks
Dirceu Barquette
2008/12/16 Ricardo Tomasi ricardob...@gmail.com
Hmm.. what do you mean? all of these are plain text, I guess you meant
something other than 'file format' (and csv has nothing to do with CSS
by the way, more than the rest is unrelated!) :]
On Dec 16, 5:22 pm, Dirceu Barquette dirceu.barque...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi,
I'd like to know, please:
There is {HTML,CSS,jQuery}library in [xml,csv,json]file format?
The goal is an IDE...
Thanks.
Dirceu Barquette
[jQuery] Re: libraries
Don't worry with your english, I'm not a native.
So you want to know how to make json request ?
Do you still have a question, or do you want just to discuss stuffs ?
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 5:21 PM, Dirceu Barquette
dirceu.barque...@gmail.com wrote:
The initial question was just about libraries.
The thread now pointing to CMS. This is my goal! Write in English about
this is so much difficult to me.
I have been doing many apps (my job...) using jquery.
I follow this group just to learn more with others developers. When I have
some dummy doubt about jQuery I just googlit and voila!! jQuery is a
fatastic tool!! But I want much more and it is truely possible using jQuery
thoughts.
This is just a dream, but reachable: View components builded with jQuery
that can request data from server (controller). Controller can be builded
using any language you wish, but the answer just is a JSON! jQuery read easy
this answer and put data in the component previously created. You know?
Thanks again for your interest!
Dirceu Barquette
2008/12/17 Olivier Percebois-Garve perceb...@gmail.com
using a MVC framework such as cakephp or zend framework, you can put the
html in a view, and on top of that view insert the js. If you use the head
helper, you can make it be inserted between in the head/head. same for
css.
The I advice you to put your javascript code into seperate files, one for
each plugins.
This way, every time a view is requested, the relevant js will be called,
and with HTML + js + css, you've your widget.
Is that answering your question ?
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 4:38 PM, Dirceu Barquette
dirceu.barque...@gmail.com wrote:
Forgive me the wrong words and semanthics. My mind is a tool for
automatic translation...
You are right about new thread. But in other words I want build the
view part only. To do this I need some IDE. See this IDE like a GUI
builder (with components ready to use).
Second:
If an user wants a list, he doesn't need write:
$('li/')
.attr({id:'li-1'})
.css({list-style-image:'url(./imgs/blah.png)'})
.addClass('generalList')
.text('blah')
.appendTo('#ul-id');
End users just wants: click on the element and choice what he wants.
Put these two topics together and you have an application that build
applications. Or a CMS!!!
Thanks a lot!!!
Dirceu Barquette
2008/12/17 Olivier Percebois-Garve perceb...@gmail.com
Dirceu
is this a different question ? in that case you should start a new
thread with a different title
also if you are using a tool for automatic translation, just mention it.
I'm trying to understand what is your question.
You are trying to create a client-side widget in a MVC framework, and
you dont know how to structurate it ?
Olivier
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 2:42 PM, Dirceu Barquette
dirceu.barque...@gmail.com wrote:
Ok!
Thanks to all!. But the right stuff I want is everything like this:
http://tof2k.com/ext/formbuilder
I want to build components for the view layer. People (me included)
has been building widgets and plugins for topics apps. Most of them mixes
among styles and logic to build it and force you develop controller at the
same time.
When I develop an application, first I used to put any components
without styles at the view layer. These components doesn't need to know
how
the logic works to. It must exists without know weather model or
controller exists and has own logic. View is a complete application by
itself. Styles comes latter... Web designers doesn't need to know how
jQuery
works. They need stylesheet only.
The above link shows that it is possible (but still mixing style with
logic). Components needs constructor method to build itself. Others
methods
and attrs comes latter.
Again, sorry my english... I hope you understand the semanthic of my
words.
Thanks,
Dirceu Barquette
2008/12/17 Olivier Percebois-Garve perceb...@gmail.com
Aptana does a good job for auto completion.
I you weant to learn the api for yourself, I think that
visualjquery.com is excellent, I almost always have it open whilst
developing.
On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 8:22 PM, Dirceu Barquette
dirceu.barque...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
I'd like to know, please:
There is {HTML,CSS,jQuery}library in [xml,csv,json]file format?
The goal is an IDE...
Thanks.
Dirceu Barquette
[jQuery] Re: libraries
I think the thread just ended. :D
If you have some time, download and comment my plugins:
http://jqtreevial.sourceforge.net
And:
http;//isabeladraw.sourceforge.net (official versioning)
http://calango.barquettenet.net/~dirceu/isabela_draw/jquery.isabela_draw(nightly
version)
Thank you very much!
2008/12/17 Olivier Percebois-Garve perceb...@gmail.com
Don't worry with your english, I'm not a native.
So you want to know how to make json request ?
Do you still have a question, or do you want just to discuss stuffs ?
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 5:21 PM, Dirceu Barquette
dirceu.barque...@gmail.com wrote:
The initial question was just about libraries.
The thread now pointing to CMS. This is my goal! Write in English about
this is so much difficult to me.
I have been doing many apps (my job...) using jquery.
I follow this group just to learn more with others developers. When I have
some dummy doubt about jQuery I just googlit and voila!! jQuery is a
fatastic tool!! But I want much more and it is truely possible using jQuery
thoughts.
This is just a dream, but reachable: View components builded with jQuery
that can request data from server (controller). Controller can be builded
using any language you wish, but the answer just is a JSON! jQuery read easy
this answer and put data in the component previously created. You know?
Thanks again for your interest!
Dirceu Barquette
2008/12/17 Olivier Percebois-Garve perceb...@gmail.com
using a MVC framework such as cakephp or zend framework, you can put the
html in a view, and on top of that view insert the js. If you use the head
helper, you can make it be inserted between in the head/head. same for
css.
The I advice you to put your javascript code into seperate files, one for
each plugins.
This way, every time a view is requested, the relevant js will be called,
and with HTML + js + css, you've your widget.
Is that answering your question ?
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 4:38 PM, Dirceu Barquette
dirceu.barque...@gmail.com wrote:
Forgive me the wrong words and semanthics. My mind is a tool for
automatic translation...
You are right about new thread. But in other words I want build the
view part only. To do this I need some IDE. See this IDE like a GUI
builder (with components ready to use).
Second:
If an user wants a list, he doesn't need write:
$('li/')
.attr({id:'li-1'})
.css({list-style-image:'url(./imgs/blah.png)'})
.addClass('generalList')
.text('blah')
.appendTo('#ul-id');
End users just wants: click on the element and choice what he wants.
Put these two topics together and you have an application that build
applications. Or a CMS!!!
Thanks a lot!!!
Dirceu Barquette
2008/12/17 Olivier Percebois-Garve perceb...@gmail.com
Dirceu
is this a different question ? in that case you should start a new
thread with a different title
also if you are using a tool for automatic translation, just mention
it.
I'm trying to understand what is your question.
You are trying to create a client-side widget in a MVC framework, and
you dont know how to structurate it ?
Olivier
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 2:42 PM, Dirceu Barquette
dirceu.barque...@gmail.com wrote:
Ok!
Thanks to all!. But the right stuff I want is everything like this:
http://tof2k.com/ext/formbuilder
I want to build components for the view layer. People (me included)
has been building widgets and plugins for topics apps. Most of them mixes
among styles and logic to build it and force you develop controller at
the
same time.
When I develop an application, first I used to put any components
without styles at the view layer. These components doesn't need to know
how
the logic works to. It must exists without know weather model or
controller exists and has own logic. View is a complete application by
itself. Styles comes latter... Web designers doesn't need to know how
jQuery
works. They need stylesheet only.
The above link shows that it is possible (but still mixing style with
logic). Components needs constructor method to build itself. Others
methods
and attrs comes latter.
Again, sorry my english... I hope you understand the semanthic of my
words.
Thanks,
Dirceu Barquette
2008/12/17 Olivier Percebois-Garve perceb...@gmail.com
Aptana does a good job for auto completion.
I you weant to learn the api for yourself, I think that
visualjquery.com is excellent, I almost always have it open whilst
developing.
On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 8:22 PM, Dirceu Barquette
dirceu.barque...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
I'd like to know, please:
There is {HTML,CSS,jQuery}library in [xml,csv,json]file format?
The goal is an IDE...
Thanks.
Dirceu Barquette
[jQuery] Re: libraries
OH!!
I've forgotten the magic word: please :-)
2008/12/17 Dirceu Barquette dirceu.barque...@gmail.com
I think the thread just ended. :D
If you have some time, download and comment my plugins:
http://jqtreevial.sourceforge.net
And:
http;//isabeladraw.sourceforge.net (official versioning)
http://calango.barquettenet.net/~dirceu/isabela_draw/jquery.isabela_drawhttp://calango.barquettenet.net/%7Edirceu/isabela_draw/jquery.isabela_draw(nightly
version)
Thank you very much!
2008/12/17 Olivier Percebois-Garve perceb...@gmail.com
Don't worry with your english, I'm not a native.
So you want to know how to make json request ?
Do you still have a question, or do you want just to discuss stuffs ?
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 5:21 PM, Dirceu Barquette
dirceu.barque...@gmail.com wrote:
The initial question was just about libraries.
The thread now pointing to CMS. This is my goal! Write in English about
this is so much difficult to me.
I have been doing many apps (my job...) using jquery.
I follow this group just to learn more with others developers. When I
have some dummy doubt about jQuery I just googlit and voila!! jQuery is a
fatastic tool!! But I want much more and it is truely possible using jQuery
thoughts.
This is just a dream, but reachable: View components builded with jQuery
that can request data from server (controller). Controller can be builded
using any language you wish, but the answer just is a JSON! jQuery read easy
this answer and put data in the component previously created. You know?
Thanks again for your interest!
Dirceu Barquette
2008/12/17 Olivier Percebois-Garve perceb...@gmail.com
using a MVC framework such as cakephp or zend framework, you can put the
html in a view, and on top of that view insert the js. If you use the
head
helper, you can make it be inserted between in the head/head. same for
css.
The I advice you to put your javascript code into seperate files, one
for each plugins.
This way, every time a view is requested, the relevant js will be
called, and with HTML + js + css, you've your widget.
Is that answering your question ?
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 4:38 PM, Dirceu Barquette
dirceu.barque...@gmail.com wrote:
Forgive me the wrong words and semanthics. My mind is a tool for
automatic translation...
You are right about new thread. But in other words I want build the
view part only. To do this I need some IDE. See this IDE like a GUI
builder (with components ready to use).
Second:
If an user wants a list, he doesn't need write:
$('li/')
.attr({id:'li-1'})
.css({list-style-image:'url(./imgs/blah.png)'})
.addClass('generalList')
.text('blah')
.appendTo('#ul-id');
End users just wants: click on the element and choice what he wants.
Put these two topics together and you have an application that build
applications. Or a CMS!!!
Thanks a lot!!!
Dirceu Barquette
2008/12/17 Olivier Percebois-Garve perceb...@gmail.com
Dirceu
is this a different question ? in that case you should start a new
thread with a different title
also if you are using a tool for automatic translation, just mention
it.
I'm trying to understand what is your question.
You are trying to create a client-side widget in a MVC framework, and
you dont know how to structurate it ?
Olivier
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 2:42 PM, Dirceu Barquette
dirceu.barque...@gmail.com wrote:
Ok!
Thanks to all!. But the right stuff I want is everything like this:
http://tof2k.com/ext/formbuilder
I want to build components for the view layer. People (me included)
has been building widgets and plugins for topics apps. Most of them
mixes
among styles and logic to build it and force you develop controller at
the
same time.
When I develop an application, first I used to put any components
without styles at the view layer. These components doesn't need to know
how
the logic works to. It must exists without know weather model or
controller exists and has own logic. View is a complete application by
itself. Styles comes latter... Web designers doesn't need to know how
jQuery
works. They need stylesheet only.
The above link shows that it is possible (but still mixing style with
logic). Components needs constructor method to build itself. Others
methods
and attrs comes latter.
Again, sorry my english... I hope you understand the semanthic of my
words.
Thanks,
Dirceu Barquette
2008/12/17 Olivier Percebois-Garve perceb...@gmail.com
Aptana does a good job for auto completion.
I you weant to learn the api for yourself, I think that
visualjquery.com is excellent, I almost always have it open whilst
developing.
On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 8:22 PM, Dirceu Barquette
dirceu.barque...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
I'd like to know, please:
There is {HTML,CSS,jQuery}library in [xml,csv,json]file format?
The goal is an IDE...
Thanks.
Dirceu Barquette
[jQuery] Re: libraries
- think your plugin is tied to specific ids on each node. This should not
be necessary.
I didn't understand this sentence...
- the plugin is calling directly image to decorate the tree, I think it
should be done via options.
You are right. It will be done for the next version!
(google : jquery plugin pattern)
I did it already in 0.1 version (thanks to Mike Alsup - nice tutorial)
- you've a method new_node and then one named insert_node. confusing.
new_node intend to be private method, and insert_node is the public
method that uses new_node method. If its wrong try to explain me correct
implementation, please!
other than that, nice, very nice, for somebody that is just learning
english.
My brother is an excellent English writer and translator...
you've ambitious scripts.
thank you very much I want to share these projects with developers. Do
you want colaborate? All of them is GPL!!!
correct URL. forgive me.
http://calango.barquettenet.net/~dirceu/isabela/jquery.isabela_drawhttp://calango.barquettenet.net/%7Edirceu/isabela/jquery.isabela_draw
2008/12/17 Olivier Percebois-Garve perceb...@gmail.com
quick comments:
- think your plugin is tied to specific ids on each node. This should not
be necessary.
- the plugin is calling directly image to decorate the tree, I think it
should be done via options. (google : jquery plugin pattern)
actually the best is to use css clases for the different states and
decorate them using css.
- you've a method new_node and then one named insert_node. confusing.
other than that, nice, very nice, for somebody that is just learning
english. you've ambitious scripts.
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 5:49 PM, Dirceu Barquette
dirceu.barque...@gmail.com wrote:
I think the thread just ended. :D
If you have some time, download and comment my plugins:
http://jqtreevial.sourceforge.net
And:
http;//isabeladraw.sourceforge.net (official versioning)
http://calango.barquettenet.net/~dirceu/isabela/jquery.isabela_drawhttp://calango.barquettenet.net/%7Edirceu/isabela/jquery.isabela_draw(nightly
version)
Thank you very much!
2008/12/17 Olivier Percebois-Garve perceb...@gmail.com
Don't worry with your english, I'm not a native.
So you want to know how to make json request ?
Do you still have a question, or do you want just to discuss stuffs ?
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 5:21 PM, Dirceu Barquette
dirceu.barque...@gmail.com wrote:
The initial question was just about libraries.
The thread now pointing to CMS. This is my goal! Write in English about
this is so much difficult to me.
I have been doing many apps (my job...) using jquery.
I follow this group just to learn more with others developers. When I
have some dummy doubt about jQuery I just googlit and voila!! jQuery is a
fatastic tool!! But I want much more and it is truely possible using jQuery
thoughts.
This is just a dream, but reachable: View components builded with jQuery
that can request data from server (controller). Controller can be builded
using any language you wish, but the answer just is a JSON! jQuery read
easy
this answer and put data in the component previously created. You know?
Thanks again for your interest!
Dirceu Barquette
2008/12/17 Olivier Percebois-Garve perceb...@gmail.com
using a MVC framework such as cakephp or zend framework, you can put
the html in a view, and on top of that view insert the js. If you use the
head helper, you can make it be inserted between in the head/head.
same for css.
The I advice you to put your javascript code into seperate files, one
for each plugins.
This way, every time a view is requested, the relevant js will be
called, and with HTML + js + css, you've your widget.
Is that answering your question ?
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 4:38 PM, Dirceu Barquette
dirceu.barque...@gmail.com wrote:
Forgive me the wrong words and semanthics. My mind is a tool for
automatic translation...
You are right about new thread. But in other words I want build the
view part only. To do this I need some IDE. See this IDE like a GUI
builder (with components ready to use).
Second:
If an user wants a list, he doesn't need write:
$('li/')
.attr({id:'li-1'})
.css({list-style-image:'url(./imgs/blah.png)'})
.addClass('generalList')
.text('blah')
.appendTo('#ul-id');
End users just wants: click on the element and choice what he wants.
Put these two topics together and you have an application that build
applications. Or a CMS!!!
Thanks a lot!!!
Dirceu Barquette
2008/12/17 Olivier Percebois-Garve perceb...@gmail.com
Dirceu
is this a different question ? in that case you should start a new
thread with a different title
also if you are using a tool for automatic translation, just mention
it.
I'm trying to understand what is your question.
You are trying to create a client-side widget in a MVC framework, and
you dont know how to structurate it ?
Olivier
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at
[jQuery] Re: libraries
Aptana does a good job for auto completion.
I you weant to learn the api for yourself, I think that visualjquery.com is
excellent, I almost always have it open whilst developing.
On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 8:22 PM, Dirceu Barquette
dirceu.barque...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
I'd like to know, please:
There is {HTML,CSS,jQuery}library in [xml,csv,json]file format?
The goal is an IDE...
Thanks.
Dirceu Barquette
[jQuery] Re: libraries
quick comments:
- think your plugin is tied to specific ids on each node. This should not be
necessary.
- the plugin is calling directly image to decorate the tree, I think it
should be done via options. (google : jquery plugin pattern)
actually the best is to use css clases for the different states and
decorate them using css.
- you've a method new_node and then one named insert_node. confusing.
other than that, nice, very nice, for somebody that is just learning
english. you've ambitious scripts.
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 5:49 PM, Dirceu Barquette
dirceu.barque...@gmail.com wrote:
I think the thread just ended. :D
If you have some time, download and comment my plugins:
http://jqtreevial.sourceforge.net
And:
http;//isabeladraw.sourceforge.net (official versioning)
http://calango.barquettenet.net/~dirceu/isabela_draw/jquery.isabela_drawhttp://calango.barquettenet.net/%7Edirceu/isabela_draw/jquery.isabela_draw(nightly
version)
Thank you very much!
2008/12/17 Olivier Percebois-Garve perceb...@gmail.com
Don't worry with your english, I'm not a native.
So you want to know how to make json request ?
Do you still have a question, or do you want just to discuss stuffs ?
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 5:21 PM, Dirceu Barquette
dirceu.barque...@gmail.com wrote:
The initial question was just about libraries.
The thread now pointing to CMS. This is my goal! Write in English about
this is so much difficult to me.
I have been doing many apps (my job...) using jquery.
I follow this group just to learn more with others developers. When I
have some dummy doubt about jQuery I just googlit and voila!! jQuery is a
fatastic tool!! But I want much more and it is truely possible using jQuery
thoughts.
This is just a dream, but reachable: View components builded with jQuery
that can request data from server (controller). Controller can be builded
using any language you wish, but the answer just is a JSON! jQuery read easy
this answer and put data in the component previously created. You know?
Thanks again for your interest!
Dirceu Barquette
2008/12/17 Olivier Percebois-Garve perceb...@gmail.com
using a MVC framework such as cakephp or zend framework, you can put the
html in a view, and on top of that view insert the js. If you use the
head
helper, you can make it be inserted between in the head/head. same for
css.
The I advice you to put your javascript code into seperate files, one
for each plugins.
This way, every time a view is requested, the relevant js will be
called, and with HTML + js + css, you've your widget.
Is that answering your question ?
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 4:38 PM, Dirceu Barquette
dirceu.barque...@gmail.com wrote:
Forgive me the wrong words and semanthics. My mind is a tool for
automatic translation...
You are right about new thread. But in other words I want build the
view part only. To do this I need some IDE. See this IDE like a GUI
builder (with components ready to use).
Second:
If an user wants a list, he doesn't need write:
$('li/')
.attr({id:'li-1'})
.css({list-style-image:'url(./imgs/blah.png)'})
.addClass('generalList')
.text('blah')
.appendTo('#ul-id');
End users just wants: click on the element and choice what he wants.
Put these two topics together and you have an application that build
applications. Or a CMS!!!
Thanks a lot!!!
Dirceu Barquette
2008/12/17 Olivier Percebois-Garve perceb...@gmail.com
Dirceu
is this a different question ? in that case you should start a new
thread with a different title
also if you are using a tool for automatic translation, just mention
it.
I'm trying to understand what is your question.
You are trying to create a client-side widget in a MVC framework, and
you dont know how to structurate it ?
Olivier
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 2:42 PM, Dirceu Barquette
dirceu.barque...@gmail.com wrote:
Ok!
Thanks to all!. But the right stuff I want is everything like this:
http://tof2k.com/ext/formbuilder
I want to build components for the view layer. People (me included)
has been building widgets and plugins for topics apps. Most of them
mixes
among styles and logic to build it and force you develop controller at
the
same time.
When I develop an application, first I used to put any components
without styles at the view layer. These components doesn't need to know
how
the logic works to. It must exists without know weather model or
controller exists and has own logic. View is a complete application by
itself. Styles comes latter... Web designers doesn't need to know how
jQuery
works. They need stylesheet only.
The above link shows that it is possible (but still mixing style with
logic). Components needs constructor method to build itself. Others
methods
and attrs comes latter.
Again, sorry my english... I hope you understand the semanthic of my
words.
Thanks,
Dirceu Barquette
2008/12/17 Olivier Percebois-Garve
[jQuery] Re: libraries
Dirceu
is this a different question ? in that case you should start a new thread
with a different title
also if you are using a tool for automatic translation, just mention it.
I'm trying to understand what is your question.
You are trying to create a client-side widget in a MVC framework, and you
dont know how to structurate it ?
Olivier
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 2:42 PM, Dirceu Barquette
dirceu.barque...@gmail.com wrote:
Ok!
Thanks to all!. But the right stuff I want is everything like this:
http://tof2k.com/ext/formbuilder
I want to build components for the view layer. People (me included) has
been building widgets and plugins for topics apps. Most of them mixes among
styles and logic to build it and force you develop controller at the same
time.
When I develop an application, first I used to put any components without
styles at the view layer. These components doesn't need to know how the
logic works to. It must exists without know weather model or controller
exists and has own logic. View is a complete application by itself. Styles
comes latter... Web designers doesn't need to know how jQuery works. They
need stylesheet only.
The above link shows that it is possible (but still mixing style with
logic). Components needs constructor method to build itself. Others methods
and attrs comes latter.
Again, sorry my english... I hope you understand the semanthic of my words.
Thanks,
Dirceu Barquette
2008/12/17 Olivier Percebois-Garve perceb...@gmail.com
Aptana does a good job for auto completion.
I you weant to learn the api for yourself, I think that visualjquery.comis
excellent, I almost always have it open whilst developing.
On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 8:22 PM, Dirceu Barquette
dirceu.barque...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
I'd like to know, please:
There is {HTML,CSS,jQuery}library in [xml,csv,json]file format?
The goal is an IDE...
Thanks.
Dirceu Barquette
[jQuery] Re: libraries
Ok!
Thanks to all!. But the right stuff I want is everything like this:
http://tof2k.com/ext/formbuilder
I want to build components for the view layer. People (me included) has
been building widgets and plugins for topics apps. Most of them mixes among
styles and logic to build it and force you develop controller at the same
time.
When I develop an application, first I used to put any components without
styles at the view layer. These components doesn't need to know how the
logic works to. It must exists without know weather model or controller
exists and has own logic. View is a complete application by itself. Styles
comes latter... Web designers doesn't need to know how jQuery works. They
need stylesheet only.
The above link shows that it is possible (but still mixing style with
logic). Components needs constructor method to build itself. Others methods
and attrs comes latter.
Again, sorry my english... I hope you understand the semanthic of my words.
Thanks,
Dirceu Barquette
2008/12/17 Olivier Percebois-Garve perceb...@gmail.com
Aptana does a good job for auto completion.
I you weant to learn the api for yourself, I think that visualjquery.comis
excellent, I almost always have it open whilst developing.
On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 8:22 PM, Dirceu Barquette
dirceu.barque...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
I'd like to know, please:
There is {HTML,CSS,jQuery}library in [xml,csv,json]file format?
The goal is an IDE...
Thanks.
Dirceu Barquette
[jQuery] Re: libraries
The initial question was just about libraries.
The thread now pointing to CMS. This is my goal! Write in English about this
is so much difficult to me.
I have been doing many apps (my job...) using jquery.
I follow this group just to learn more with others developers. When I have
some dummy doubt about jQuery I just googlit and voila!! jQuery is a
fatastic tool!! But I want much more and it is truely possible using jQuery
thoughts.
This is just a dream, but reachable: View components builded with jQuery
that can request data from server (controller). Controller can be builded
using any language you wish, but the answer just is a JSON! jQuery read easy
this answer and put data in the component previously created. You know?
Thanks again for your interest!
Dirceu Barquette
2008/12/17 Olivier Percebois-Garve perceb...@gmail.com
using a MVC framework such as cakephp or zend framework, you can put the
html in a view, and on top of that view insert the js. If you use the head
helper, you can make it be inserted between in the head/head. same for
css.
The I advice you to put your javascript code into seperate files, one for
each plugins.
This way, every time a view is requested, the relevant js will be called,
and with HTML + js + css, you've your widget.
Is that answering your question ?
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 4:38 PM, Dirceu Barquette
dirceu.barque...@gmail.com wrote:
Forgive me the wrong words and semanthics. My mind is a tool for automatic
translation...
You are right about new thread. But in other words I want build the view
part only. To do this I need some IDE. See this IDE like a GUI builder (with
components ready to use).
Second:
If an user wants a list, he doesn't need write:
$('li/')
.attr({id:'li-1'})
.css({list-style-image:'url(./imgs/blah.png)'})
.addClass('generalList')
.text('blah')
.appendTo('#ul-id');
End users just wants: click on the element and choice what he wants.
Put these two topics together and you have an application that build
applications. Or a CMS!!!
Thanks a lot!!!
Dirceu Barquette
2008/12/17 Olivier Percebois-Garve perceb...@gmail.com
Dirceu
is this a different question ? in that case you should start a new thread
with a different title
also if you are using a tool for automatic translation, just mention it.
I'm trying to understand what is your question.
You are trying to create a client-side widget in a MVC framework, and you
dont know how to structurate it ?
Olivier
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 2:42 PM, Dirceu Barquette
dirceu.barque...@gmail.com wrote:
Ok!
Thanks to all!. But the right stuff I want is everything like this:
http://tof2k.com/ext/formbuilder
I want to build components for the view layer. People (me included)
has been building widgets and plugins for topics apps. Most of them mixes
among styles and logic to build it and force you develop controller at the
same time.
When I develop an application, first I used to put any components
without styles at the view layer. These components doesn't need to know how
the logic works to. It must exists without know weather model or
controller exists and has own logic. View is a complete application by
itself. Styles comes latter... Web designers doesn't need to know how
jQuery
works. They need stylesheet only.
The above link shows that it is possible (but still mixing style with
logic). Components needs constructor method to build itself. Others
methods
and attrs comes latter.
Again, sorry my english... I hope you understand the semanthic of my
words.
Thanks,
Dirceu Barquette
2008/12/17 Olivier Percebois-Garve perceb...@gmail.com
Aptana does a good job for auto completion.
I you weant to learn the api for yourself, I think that
visualjquery.com is excellent, I almost always have it open whilst
developing.
On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 8:22 PM, Dirceu Barquette
dirceu.barque...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
I'd like to know, please:
There is {HTML,CSS,jQuery}library in [xml,csv,json]file format?
The goal is an IDE...
Thanks.
Dirceu Barquette
[jQuery] Re: libraries
using a MVC framework such as cakephp or zend framework, you can put the
html in a view, and on top of that view insert the js. If you use the head
helper, you can make it be inserted between in the head/head. same for
css.
The I advice you to put your javascript code into seperate files, one for
each plugins.
This way, every time a view is requested, the relevant js will be called,
and with HTML + js + css, you've your widget.
Is that answering your question ?
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 4:38 PM, Dirceu Barquette
dirceu.barque...@gmail.com wrote:
Forgive me the wrong words and semanthics. My mind is a tool for automatic
translation...
You are right about new thread. But in other words I want build the view
part only. To do this I need some IDE. See this IDE like a GUI builder (with
components ready to use).
Second:
If an user wants a list, he doesn't need write:
$('li/')
.attr({id:'li-1'})
.css({list-style-image:'url(./imgs/blah.png)'})
.addClass('generalList')
.text('blah')
.appendTo('#ul-id');
End users just wants: click on the element and choice what he wants.
Put these two topics together and you have an application that build
applications. Or a CMS!!!
Thanks a lot!!!
Dirceu Barquette
2008/12/17 Olivier Percebois-Garve perceb...@gmail.com
Dirceu
is this a different question ? in that case you should start a new thread
with a different title
also if you are using a tool for automatic translation, just mention it.
I'm trying to understand what is your question.
You are trying to create a client-side widget in a MVC framework, and you
dont know how to structurate it ?
Olivier
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 2:42 PM, Dirceu Barquette
dirceu.barque...@gmail.com wrote:
Ok!
Thanks to all!. But the right stuff I want is everything like this:
http://tof2k.com/ext/formbuilder
I want to build components for the view layer. People (me included) has
been building widgets and plugins for topics apps. Most of them mixes among
styles and logic to build it and force you develop controller at the same
time.
When I develop an application, first I used to put any components without
styles at the view layer. These components doesn't need to know how the
logic works to. It must exists without know weather model or controller
exists and has own logic. View is a complete application by itself. Styles
comes latter... Web designers doesn't need to know how jQuery works. They
need stylesheet only.
The above link shows that it is possible (but still mixing style with
logic). Components needs constructor method to build itself. Others methods
and attrs comes latter.
Again, sorry my english... I hope you understand the semanthic of my
words.
Thanks,
Dirceu Barquette
2008/12/17 Olivier Percebois-Garve perceb...@gmail.com
Aptana does a good job for auto completion.
I you weant to learn the api for yourself, I think that
visualjquery.com is excellent, I almost always have it open whilst
developing.
On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 8:22 PM, Dirceu Barquette
dirceu.barque...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
I'd like to know, please:
There is {HTML,CSS,jQuery}library in [xml,csv,json]file format?
The goal is an IDE...
Thanks.
Dirceu Barquette
[jQuery] Re: libraries
Forgive me the wrong words and semanthics. My mind is a tool for automatic
translation...
You are right about new thread. But in other words I want build the view
part only. To do this I need some IDE. See this IDE like a GUI builder (with
components ready to use).
Second:
If an user wants a list, he doesn't need write:
$('li/')
.attr({id:'li-1'})
.css({list-style-image:'url(./imgs/blah.png)'})
.addClass('generalList')
.text('blah')
.appendTo('#ul-id');
End users just wants: click on the element and choice what he wants.
Put these two topics together and you have an application that build
applications. Or a CMS!!!
Thanks a lot!!!
Dirceu Barquette
2008/12/17 Olivier Percebois-Garve perceb...@gmail.com
Dirceu
is this a different question ? in that case you should start a new thread
with a different title
also if you are using a tool for automatic translation, just mention it.
I'm trying to understand what is your question.
You are trying to create a client-side widget in a MVC framework, and you
dont know how to structurate it ?
Olivier
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 2:42 PM, Dirceu Barquette
dirceu.barque...@gmail.com wrote:
Ok!
Thanks to all!. But the right stuff I want is everything like this:
http://tof2k.com/ext/formbuilder
I want to build components for the view layer. People (me included) has
been building widgets and plugins for topics apps. Most of them mixes among
styles and logic to build it and force you develop controller at the same
time.
When I develop an application, first I used to put any components without
styles at the view layer. These components doesn't need to know how the
logic works to. It must exists without know weather model or controller
exists and has own logic. View is a complete application by itself. Styles
comes latter... Web designers doesn't need to know how jQuery works. They
need stylesheet only.
The above link shows that it is possible (but still mixing style with
logic). Components needs constructor method to build itself. Others methods
and attrs comes latter.
Again, sorry my english... I hope you understand the semanthic of my
words.
Thanks,
Dirceu Barquette
2008/12/17 Olivier Percebois-Garve perceb...@gmail.com
Aptana does a good job for auto completion.
I you weant to learn the api for yourself, I think that visualjquery.comis
excellent, I almost always have it open whilst developing.
On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 8:22 PM, Dirceu Barquette
dirceu.barque...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
I'd like to know, please:
There is {HTML,CSS,jQuery}library in [xml,csv,json]file format?
The goal is an IDE...
Thanks.
Dirceu Barquette
[jQuery] Re: libraries
Hmm.. what do you mean? all of these are plain text, I guess you meant
something other than 'file format' (and csv has nothing to do with CSS
by the way, more than the rest is unrelated!) :]
On Dec 16, 5:22 pm, Dirceu Barquette dirceu.barque...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi,
I'd like to know, please:
There is {HTML,CSS,jQuery}library in [xml,csv,json]file format?
The goal is an IDE...
Thanks.
Dirceu Barquette
[jQuery] Re: libraries
OK. CSV isn't required...
All the IDE has {css,tagHtml}attrs or jQuery{attr,methods} auto-complete
cappable . If I have these lists, auto-completing is easy... isn't it?
Thanks
Dirceu Barquette
2008/12/16 Ricardo Tomasi ricardob...@gmail.com
Hmm.. what do you mean? all of these are plain text, I guess you meant
something other than 'file format' (and csv has nothing to do with CSS
by the way, more than the rest is unrelated!) :]
On Dec 16, 5:22 pm, Dirceu Barquette dirceu.barque...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi,
I'd like to know, please:
There is {HTML,CSS,jQuery}library in [xml,csv,json]file format?
The goal is an IDE...
Thanks.
Dirceu Barquette
[jQuery] Re: libraries
Ah now I see what you mean.
You can download the extensions for Dreamweaver or IntelliSense at
http://xtnd.us/dreamweaver/jquery
http://www.mustafaozcan.net/en/post/2008/06/15/JQuery-1-2-6-Intellisense-for-Visual-Studio-2008.aspx
But I think it's more productive to rewrite it from scratch in your
own format. The Intellisense code is embedded in the comments of the
script itself, you'd have to create a parser for that.
On Dec 16, 8:09 pm, Dirceu Barquette dirceu.barque...@gmail.com
wrote:
OK. CSV isn't required...
All the IDE has {css,tagHtml}attrs or jQuery{attr,methods} auto-complete
cappable . If I have these lists, auto-completing is easy... isn't it?
Thanks
Dirceu Barquette
2008/12/16 Ricardo Tomasi ricardob...@gmail.com
Hmm.. what do you mean? all of these are plain text, I guess you meant
something other than 'file format' (and csv has nothing to do with CSS
by the way, more than the rest is unrelated!) :]
On Dec 16, 5:22 pm, Dirceu Barquette dirceu.barque...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi,
I'd like to know, please:
There is {HTML,CSS,jQuery}library in [xml,csv,json]file format?
The goal is an IDE...
Thanks.
Dirceu Barquette
