Re: [JPP-Devel] [jump-users] [Fwd: Transformation Plugin and JAI]

2007-03-28 Thread Edgar Soldin
thanks stefan,

now i am subscribed .. why i was not .. i don't know ...

regarding the question ...
as far as i see there is no direct linkage between jai_core, jai_codec 
and the cts extension ... but maybe the used geotools jars depend on it? 
... try to install the extension without them & see what happens .. as 
far as i know the priority when searching classes in  the classpath is 
like .. first come first serve .. to say.. the first found match is taken.

regards from cologne .. ede
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>
>  Original Message 
> Subject: [JPP-Devel] Transformation Plugin and JAI
> Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 11:03:57 +0100
> From: Pedro Doria Meunier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: List for discussion of JPP development and use. 
> 
> To: List for discussion of JPP development and use. 
> 
>
>
>
> Hey Edgar,
>
> About the transformation plugin...
> Í've noticed that there's jai_codec.jar and jai_core.jar inside the zip.
>
> My question is:
> How does this interfere with existing JAI (sun's) installation?
>
> BR
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Re: [JPP-Devel] Help with a Java problem...

2007-04-05 Thread Edgar Soldin
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[JPP-Devel] stefan writes his thesis :)

2007-04-11 Thread Edgar Soldin

> dont wonder if i may answer delayed or even never,
> i started writing the thesis last week
> stefan
>
>   
good luck with it ... ede
> Michaël Michaud schrieb:
>   
>> Hi,
>>
>> Mhh, what is in the 'org.openjump.core' package makes not much sense to 
>> me, but on the other way, vivid's code has an equivalent 
>> 'com.vividsolutions.workbench' package which I think is useful and we 
>> can't put all the stuff which is under 'org.openjump.core' or under 
>> 'com.vividsolutions.workbench' directly under 'org.openjump'.
>> To make the proposition clear, one has to explain what has to take place 
>> directly under org.openjump, what has to be in subpackages, and what are 
>> the main subpackages to use.
>>
>> Michaël
>>
>> Sunburned Surveyor a écrit :
>>
>> 
>>> I've completed the initial version of the class files for the plug-in 
>>> dependecy system and the pluggable renderers and I am adding them to 
>>> OpenJUMP-Ex' code base.  I want to keep the package names in 
>>> OpenJUMP-Ex the same as the package names in OpenJUMP. This will make 
>>> transition of code from OpenJUMP-Ex into OpenJUMP much easier.
>>>  
>>> Most of the pacakges in JUMP use a "com.vividsolutions" prefix. I 
>>> created two new packages for OpenJUMP's core using the same package 
>>> names as JUMP, except that I replaced the "com.vividsolutions" prefix 
>>> with " org.openjump".
>>>  
>>> As an example, the two packages I want to eventually add to OpenJUMP's 
>>> core are:
>>>  
>>> org.openjump.workbench.ui.renderer
>>> org.openjump.plugin
>>>  
>>> However, I noticed that existing packages that have been added to 
>>> OpenJUMP use the "org.openjump.core" prefix, essentially adding the 
>>> "core" package. Is this necessary? Would it be better to use only the 
>>> " org.openjump" prefix so that our code more closely resembles the 
>>> package structure in JUMP?
>>>  
>>> If there is a good reason to stick with the "org.openjump.core" prefix 
>>> I will modify my package names.
>>>  
>>> Thanks,
>>>  
>>> The Sunburned Surveyor
>>>
>>> 
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Re: [JPP-Devel] [Geotools-devel] Requesting some thoughts on GeoTools...

2007-04-19 Thread Edgar Soldin
ols
> - essentially
> > re-inventing all sorts of stuff from scratch.
> >
> > Over the years I have kept a bit of an eye on GeoTools and the
> Java community
> > at large.  I have been both amazed (in a positive way!) and also
> dismayed at
> > the enthusiasm for refactoring found in the GeoTools
> community.  I think David
> > Zwiers is right to raise stability as a concern with regard to
> GeoTools.  The
> > cardinal rule of GDAL/OGR is "I may get the interface wrong the
> first time,
> > but at least I don't change it!".  Quite the opposite for
> GeoTools who seem
> > keen to revisit core interface design every major rev in the
> interest of
> > getting a cleaner or more general design.
> >
> > But I think OpenJUMP and other teams interested in GeoTools can
> absolutely
> > have a positive effect on the GeoTools team in this regard.  I
> think it is
> > important that you and others get involved and stress the
> importance of
> > stability rather than just giving up and duplicating things.  I
> was keen on
> > GeoTools being an OSGeo project because I think the Java
> community needs a
> > strong library or set of libraries to build on.  GeoTools seems
> the clear and
> > obvious choice for this role.  Now what can we do to help it
> live up to that
> > role?
> >
> > While I think there would be some benefits to actually changing
> out the
> > OpenJUMP feature model for the one in GeoTools, I can understand
> why that
> > would be a high risk step.  In the meantime I'd like to strongly
> encourage
> > you build some sort of adapter so that any geotools feature
> source can be
> > used as an OpenJUMP feature source, even if there is a bit of extra
> > conversion between feature models always going on.  And then
> stop work on
> > any data access code of your own, and throw in with GeoTools for
> this
> > functionality!  Get involved, help out, etc.  Just using parts
> of the low
> > level shapefile code on the other hand is essentially next to no
> cooperation
> > at all.
> >
> > I don't know what OpenJUMP uses for coordinate system
> transformations, but
> > I will stress that GeoTools is quite sophisticated in this realm
> and this
> > would be another obvious aspect to take advantage of.
> >
> > You mentioned the difference in GUI toolkits between OpenJUMP and
> > GeoTools (uDig?).  I don't think you should focus on sharing GUI
> > components at this time.  This is another whole ball of wax, and I'd
> > claim that the C/C++ world has shown that a huge amount of sharing
> > and leverage can be accomplished without sharing GUI components.
> >
> > Anyways, this email is really my plea to OpenJUMP and indirectly
> to other
> > projects in the FOSS4G community to treat GeoTools as a building
> block,
> > to get involved and to provide strong feedback on the importance
> for
> > stability if that is important to you.
> >
> > The Java world has a quite reasonable desire for "pure java"
> solutions,
> > but make that work I think it is important to share labour on a
> lot of
> > common low level components.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
>
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Re: [JPP-Devel] GPL and LGPL (I need an attorney.) :]

2007-06-22 Thread Edgar Soldin
Simple.. as jump is derived from jts and jts LGPL does not enforce a 
type of license for the derived work... this is what makes it the Lesser 
GPL.. it declares the use of libraries to "/work that uses the Library/" 
and excepts it from the derivation rule. see

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGPL

ede
> So how is it JTS can be released under the LGPL is JUMP uses it?
> Doesn't JUMP's GPL infect JTS?
>
> Or is JTS released under both the GPL and LGPL? Or does releasing JTS
> under the LGPL meet the "viral" requirement of the GPL?
>
> The Sunburned Surveyor
>
> On 6/22/07, Edgar Soldin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> Hello all,
>>
>> unfortunately separating the code is not enough too allow a new license.
>> At a quick glance i only found only this
>>
>> http://www.fsf.org/licensing/licenses/gpl-faq.html#TOCLinkingOverControlledInterface
>>
>> And to my knowledge the GPL enforces itself on derived work (incl.
>> inheritance, use of interfaces). Thats why any work based on GPLed
>> software has to be at least licensed for GPL. Dual licensing of the same
>> is still allowed though.
>>
>> Regards ede
>> --
>> 
>>> Sunburned Surveyor wrote:
>>>
>>>   
>>>> Martin,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for this great clarification. I believe in my particular case I
>>>> will have to release the converter code under the GPL, since I will be
>>>> linking directly to JUMP code to do the conversion.
>>>>
>>>> I'll have to consider how important it is to use GPL for other code I
>>>> write that isn't tied as directly to JUMP. I'd appreciate any thoughts
>>>> on this. Does code released under the GPL discourage use and adoption
>>>> in a way that code released under the LGPL does not?
>>>>
>>>> 
>>> yes.. do it under LGPL if you can (i.e. don't rely on GPL code).
>>> what i have done (though i am still not sure if it is truly correct) is
>>> to release the mapgentoolbox code under an apache like license.
>>> But the important thing has been that i have put my code in separate
>>> *.jars and not in the jar that contains the jump-extension class stuff.
>>> I think that having two jars is the way.
>>>
>>> stefan
>>>
>>>
>>>   
>>>> The Sunburned Surveyor
>>>>
>>>> On 6/21/07, Martin Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>> I don't think you can develop code that links in GPL code under anything
>>>>> except GPL.  See here:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl-faq.html#GPLAndPlugins
>>>>>
>>>>> LGPL is weaker than GPL, so you can't release an actual plugin class
>>>>> (which uses the JUMP API's) as LGPL.
>>>>>
>>>>> However, I think what you can do is package up an independent library
>>>>> under some other license (as long as it doesn't use any JUMP code) and
>>>>> then call it from a "wrapper" plugin which is under GPL.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sunburned Surveyor wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>   
>>>>>> I think Paul hit the nail on the head. GeoTools is worried about
>>>>>> including code that can't be included in commercial applications.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I found an interesting article that discusses whether or not you
>>>>>> should use the LGPL or GPL for library code at the link Sascha sent.
>>>>>> The article is here:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.fsf.org/licensing/licenses/why-not-lgpl.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll have to think carefully about this. It seems like a very
>>>>>> important difference. Any thoughts on whether or not we want to
>>>>>> encourage development of OpenJUMP plug-ins and "support" or library
>>>>>> code under the GPL or LGPL?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (I'm probably opening Pandora's box with this question.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm really undecided as to which license I should use for my code.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Sunburned Surveyor
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 6/21/07, Paul Austin <[EMAIL P

Re: [JPP-Devel] GPL and LGPL Compatibility

2007-06-22 Thread Edgar Soldin
of converters that would allow developers to do the
>>>>>> GeoTools > JUMP and JUMP > GeoTools Feature Model conversion. He said
>>>>>> that there may be some issues since any code that I write will
>>>>>> necessarily need to utilize JUMP code released under the GPL. This is
>>>>>> an issue because GeoTools is released under the LGPL.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't know as much about this area as I should, so I'm hoping to get
>>>>>> some suggestions from this group. How might I be able to get code that
>>>>>> works with JUMP code under the GPl to play nice with GeoTools code
>>>>>> released under the LGPL? Is this even possible?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for the suggestions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Sunburned Surveyor
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[JPP-Devel] Fwd: Re: Edgar's CTS and core

2007-06-23 Thread Edgar Soldin

Hey Pedro,



give thanks for the compliment. But the compliment has to go to the

geotools project as i only interfaced their mighty magic;). Also I have to

thank them for their support in the mailinglists.

As for the extension, there is still the Nullpointer bug if the cs.conf is

not in the classpath, which has to be removed as lot's of new users stumble

over it and have hard times to solve it;(.



Kind regards Ede



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> Hi guys,

>

> Seeing Edgar's post about another matter brought my mind to a user's

> question/request...

>

> I wonder why Edgar's excellent work on the coordinate transformation

> plugin hasn't yet been incorporated into the core... :O

>

> That user was right on one thing... a self-respecting GIS app

> **needs** a menu-driven coordinate system choice/re-projection.

> It's my belief that Edgar's work fills the bill for this one as it's

> very easy to edit (or perhaps include every entry of the

> spatial_ref_sys table) the cs.conf file...

>

> This would certainly make OJ even more user-friendly! ;-)

>

> Just sharing my thoughts here... :]

>

> Kind regards,

> Pedro Doria Meunier

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Re: [JPP-Devel] GPL and LGPL (I need an attorney.) :]

2007-06-23 Thread Edgar Soldin

Right, but this makes the LGPL as well, the difference is that you are

allowed to let proprietary code _use_ it .. 



I found some conversation with gnu.org in my thesis about this matter.

You'll find it from page 96 on ..

http://soldin.de/about/2003-diplom/mobigis_wl_small.pdf



May this clarifies things a even better.



And a correction: It is of course _not_ possible to dual license your code

if it is derived from GPL code. Only the solely copyright holder with a

free choice of licensing (not using GPLed components) can multilicense the

work.



Regards ede

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On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 10:31:16 -0700, "Sunburned Surveyor"

<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> This conversation has been great and has really helped me understand

> the difference between the GPL and LGPL licenses.

> 

> I imagine that an important distinction between JUMP and GeoTools/UDig

> is the fact that JUMP is released under the GPL and can't be

> "sucked-in" by proprietary software.

> 

> The Sunburned Surveyor

> 

> On 6/22/07, Larry Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> Right.  It is the dependency that matters.  JUMP depends on JTS.  JTS

>> doesn't depend on JUMP.

>>

>> And lawyers aren't always a bad thing.  Some might say that the threat

>> of layers is the only thing that keeps GPL code free.  I might release

>> some code under "Larry's license" but it would not be backed up by the

>> threat of the Free Software Foundation suing you for violating the

>> license.

>>

>> regards,

>> Larry Becker

>>

>>

>> On 6/22/07, Edgar Soldin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> > Simple.. as jump is derived from jts and jts LGPL does not enforce a

>> > type of license for the derived work... this is what makes it the

> Lesser

>> > GPL.. it declares the use of libraries to "/work that uses the

> Library/"

>> > and excepts it from the derivation rule. see

>> >

>> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGPL

>> >

>> > ede

>> > > So how is it JTS can be released under the LGPL is JUMP uses it?

>> > > Doesn't JUMP's GPL infect JTS?

>> > >

>> > > Or is JTS released under both the GPL and LGPL? Or does releasing

> JTS

>> > > under the LGPL meet the "viral" requirement of the GPL?

>> > >

>> > > The Sunburned Surveyor

>> > >

>> > > On 6/22/07, Edgar Soldin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> > >

>> > >> Hello all,

>> > >>

>> > >> unfortunately separating the code is not enough too allow a new

> license.

>> > >> At a quick glance i only found only this

>> > >>

>> > >>

>

http://www.fsf.org/licensing/licenses/gpl-faq.html#TOCLinkingOverControlledInterface

>> > >>

>> > >> And to my knowledge the GPL enforces itself on derived work (incl.

>> > >> inheritance, use of interfaces). Thats why any work based on GPLed

>> > >> software has to be at least licensed for GPL. Dual licensing of the

> same

>> > >> is still allowed though.

>> > >>

>> > >> Regards ede

>> > >> --

>> > >>

>> > >>> Sunburned Surveyor wrote:

>> > >>>

>> > >>>

>> > >>>> Martin,

>> > >>>>

>> > >>>> Thanks for this great clarification. I believe in my particular

> case I

>> > >>>> will have to release the converter code under the GPL, since I

> will be

>> > >>>> linking directly to JUMP code to do the conversion.

>> > >>>>

>> > >>>> I'll have to consider how important it is to use GPL for other

> code I

>> > >>>> write that isn't tied as directly to JUMP. I'd appreciate any

> thoughts

>> > >>>> on this. Does code released under the GPL discourage use and

> adoption

>> > >>>> in a way that code released under the LGPL does not?

>> > >>>>

>> > >>>>

>> > >>> yes.. do it under LGPL if you can (i.e. don't rely on GPL code).

>> > >>> what i have done (though i am still not sure if it is truly

> correct) is

>> > >>> to release the mapgentoolbox code under an apache like license.

>> > >>> But the important thing has been that i have put my code in

> separate

>> > 

[JPP-Devel] Spread the message .. Re: User Plug-In Survey

2007-06-27 Thread Edgar Soldin
maybe linking it prominently on jump webspaces (wiki?) might help
or
advertising in additional newsgroups/mailinglists (eg. geotools) ?

regards ede
--
> Perhaps they are not using the User discussion list - is it possible to 
> contact them directly
>
> Geoff
>
> Larry Becker wrote:
>   
>> User participation in the jump-list has always been pretty sparse.
>> Makes you wonder.  I wonder what the 1200 people who downloaded
>> OpenJump in the last 60 days are doing with it?
>>
>> Larry
>>
>> On 6/26/07, Sunburned Surveyor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>   
>> 
>>> Or it might be possible that we only have 6 users. :]
>>>
>>> SS
>>>
>>> On 6/21/07, Geoffrey G Roy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>   
>>>> Dear SS
>>>>
>>>> Only 6 responses so far, it is possible that some additional prompting
>>>> may be necessary.
>>>>
>>>> Geoff
>>>>
>>>> Sunburned Surveyor wrote:
>>>>   
>>>> 
>>>>> Geoff,
>>>>>
>>>>> What type of response did you get to your user survey?
>>>>>
>>>>> Just curious.
>>>>>
>>>>> The Sunburned Surveyor
>>>>>
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Re: [JPP-Devel] Tapping into GeoTools Projection Code

2007-06-27 Thread Edgar Soldin
Hello all,

are there known bugs or problems, which prevent cts extension from 
running in openjump? Are there requirements?
Not sure but maybe I could spend a weekend these days...

regards ede
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> Jody has offered to help if there is interest in prefecting/fixing the
> code that Edgar wrote for Coordinate Projection using the GeoTools
> library.
>
> I'd take this on myself but I have already made a lot of other commitments.
>
> If we have any takers I will let Jody know. This sounds like a great
> opportunity to get projection support into OpenJUMP.
>
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  Address address = new Address();
  address.setStreet("Stadtweg 119");
  address.setZip(39116);
  address.setCity("Magdeburg");
  address.setCountry("Germany");

  sender.setAddress(address);

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Re: [JPP-Devel] Tapping into GeoTools Projection Code

2007-06-27 Thread Edgar Soldin
G'day Stefan,
> 2) I had a go with the newer geotools code (Edgar uses older libs) about 
> a year a go but stuck with some problems (the example provided at the 
> webpage did not run, since they changed some thing.. i think we talked 
> about that issue). Since that time i had no time to try again.
>   
was there a reason to switch to newer libs? eg. something in the old 
libs did not work?

> 3) the internal JUMP projection stuff is nice but very limited. the 
> problem - if we go further with that and not use geotools - is that we 
> would need to reinvent the weel.
>   
true .. still maybe the jump code can be modified to use geotools.. but 
I admit that I just had a really short look at the code weeks ago.. 
probably a simple conversion of geometries is as simple and enough for 
users these days .. future might proof otherwise
> 4) how to do: for simplicity i would recommend to have a layer-menu item 
>that allows you to reproject the data - for a first version (using 
> the EPSG codes). In and out coordsystems have to be provided! 
> Transformed data could be put to a new layer?
>   
A textfile containing WKT-String for common proj/cs would be helpful.. 
can somebody provide these?
> 5) from my point of view we do *not need* to hurry with implementing it 
> because a) Edgars plugin works for the wector data (as far as i know)...
>   
true ... no need for hurry.. but still I think it's time to make a beta 
out of the alpha version :) ..

regards ede

> but a offer from Jody to help is of course nice offer
>
> stefan
>
> PS: as sunburned realized.. he has a lot of projects.. so i would also 
> rather recommend to reschedule the projection project at an unknown date
>
> Edgar Soldin schrieb:
>   
>> Hello all,
>>
>> are there known bugs or problems, which prevent cts extension from 
>> running in openjump? Are there requirements?
>> Not sure but maybe I could spend a weekend these days...
>>
>> regards ede
>> --
>> 
>>> Jody has offered to help if there is interest in prefecting/fixing the
>>> code that Edgar wrote for Coordinate Projection using the GeoTools
>>> library.
>>>
>>> I'd take this on myself but I have already made a lot of other commitments.
>>>
>>> If we have any takers I will let Jody know. This sounds like a great
>>> opportunity to get projection support into OpenJUMP.
>>>
>>> SS
>>>
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  Address address = new Address();
  address.setStreet("Stadtweg 119");
  address.setZip(39116);
  address.setCity("Magdeburg");
  address.setCountry("Germany");

  sender.setAddress(address);

  sender.setMobilePhone(" +49(0)171-2782880 ");
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[JPP-Devel] CTS Extension based on Geotools 2.3 Referencing Components & Re: Fwd: Re: Edgar's CTS and Help documentation

2007-07-09 Thread Edgar Soldin
Hello Peppe,

could you please specify the jump version you use and tell me if it's 
windows xp? Additionally a screenshot might help as it looks like you 
don't ran into the usual Nullpointerexception typical for the extensions 
nasty bug.

If you are a bit more patient you could wait until I finished the first 
update of the extension. I did the first the steps last weekend and it 
looks promising.

Regards Ede
--
> Edgar, Pedro, Sunburned and Stefan
> I am testing Edgar's CTS since it seems to be useful
> for many users and I want to add a description about
> it in the help documentation.
>
> I followed the help file to instal it:
> 1) put files from gt2jump.cts-0.1a/ext to OJ/lib/ext 
> folder
> 2) Check if in Openjump.bat (Windows)  file
> ‘lib/ext’ is in the  classpath
>
>  By the time I try to set coordinate system I always
> had the same error message "can't locate cs.conf..."
>
> I also saw this page
> http://openjump.org/wiki/show/Installing+PlugIns and
> Ravi/Edgar. And I tried in different ways (other
> foldre and other classpath). 
>
> Maybe I missed something. Coul you help me?
>
> Peppe
>
>
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  Address address = new Address();
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  address.setZip(39116);
  address.setCity("Magdeburg");
  address.setCountry("Germany");

  sender.setAddress(address);

  sender.setMobilePhone(" +49(0)171-2782880 ");
  sender.setWebSiteUrl(" http://www.soldin.de ");
  sender.setEmail(" [EMAIL PROTECTED] ");
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Re: [JPP-Devel] Fwd: Re: Edgar's CTS and Help documentation

2007-07-09 Thread Edgar Soldin
what happens if you try to start with the batch file? .. ede
--
> --- Edgar Soldin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto:
> Hi Edgar
> I try to test the last nightly build of Openjump 1.2B.
> Actually I am testing openjump-20070627-0014 with
> Windows XP
> 
> All files from gt2jump.cts-0.1a are in OJ/lib/ext
> 
> This is the CLASSPATH in OpenJUMP.EXE:
>
> CLASSPATH=%LIB%/bsh-2.0b4.jar;%LIB%/Buoy.jar;%LIB%/Jama-1.0.1.jar;%LIB%/jdom.jar;%LIB%/jts-1.7.2.jar;%LIB%/jump-workbench-20070627-0014.jar;%LIB%/jump-api-20070627-0014.jar;%LIB%/xercesImpl.jar;%LIB%/xml-apis.jar;%LIB%/xml-apis-ext.jar;%LIB%/log4j-1.2.8.jar;%LIB%/batik/batik-all.jar;%LIB%/jmat_5.0.jar;%LIB%/ermapper.jar;%LIB%/jai_codec.jar;%LIB%/jai_core.jar;%LIB%/ext
>
>
> **
>
> This is the error message.
>
> "can't locate  cs.conf. make sure is in the classpath
> (exception) "
>
> java.lang.Exception:  Can't locate cs.conf. Make sure
> it's in the classpath.
>   at
> de.soldin.gt2jump.cts.WKTCSLoader.(WKTCSLoader.java:68)
>   at
> de.soldin.gt2jump.cts.CSComboBox.(CSComboBox.java:48)
>   at
> sun.reflect.NativeConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance0(Native
> Method)
>   at
> sun.reflect.NativeConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance(Unknown
> Source)
>   at
> sun.reflect.DelegatingConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance(Unknown
> Source)
>   at java.lang.reflect.Constructor.newInstance(Unknown
> Source)
>   at java.lang.Class.newInstance0(Unknown Source)
>   at java.lang.Class.newInstance(Unknown Source)
>   at org.swixml.DefaultFactory.newInstance(Unknown
> Source)
>   at org.swixml.Parser.getSwing(Unknown Source)
>   at org.swixml.Parser.getSwing(Unknown Source)
>   at org.swixml.Parser.parse(Unknown Source)
>   at org.swixml.SwingEngine.render(Unknown Source)
>   at org.swixml.SwingEngine.render(Unknown Source)
>   at org.swixml.SwingEngine.render(Unknown Source)
>   at
> de.soldin.gt2jump.cts.CSLayerSetExtension.execute(CSLayerSetExtension.java:218)
>   at
> com.vividsolutions.jump.workbench.plugin.AbstractPlugIn$1.actionPerformed(AbstractPlugIn.java:130)
>   at
> javax.swing.AbstractButton.fireActionPerformed(Unknown
> Source)
>   at
> javax.swing.AbstractButton$Handler.actionPerformed(Unknown
> Source)
>   at
> javax.swing.DefaultButtonModel.fireActionPerformed(Unknown
> Source)
>   at javax.swing.DefaultButtonModel.setPressed(Unknown
> Source)
>   at javax.swing.AbstractButton.doClick(Unknown Source)
>   at
> javax.swing.plaf.basic.BasicMenuItemUI.doClick(Unknown
> Source)
>   at
> javax.swing.plaf.basic.BasicMenuItemUI$Handler.mouseReleased(Unknown
> Source)
>   at java.awt.Component.processMouseEvent(Unknown
> Source)
>   at javax.swing.JComponent.processMouseEvent(Unknown
> Source)
>   at java.awt.Component.processEvent(Unknown Source)
>   at java.awt.Container.processEvent(Unknown Source)
>   at java.awt.Component.dispatchEventImpl(Unknown
> Source)
>   at java.awt.Container.dispatchEventImpl(Unknown
> Source)
>   at java.awt.Component.dispatchEvent(Unknown Source)
>   at
> java.awt.LightweightDispatcher.retargetMouseEvent(Unknown
> Source)
>   at
> java.awt.LightweightDispatcher.processMouseEvent(Unknown
> Source)
>   at
> java.awt.LightweightDispatcher.dispatchEvent(Unknown
> Source)
>   at java.awt.Container.dispatchEventImpl(Unknown
> Source)
>   at java.awt.Window.dispatchEventImpl(Unknown Source)
>   at java.awt.Component.dispatchEvent(Unknown Source)
>   at java.awt.EventQueue.dispatchEvent(Unknown Source)
>   at
> java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpOneEventForFilters(Unknown
> Source)
>   at
> java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEventsForFilter(Unknown
> Source)
>   at
> java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEventsForHierarchy(Unknown
> Source)
>   at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEvents(Unknown
> Source)
>   at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEvents(Unknown
> Source)
>   at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.run(Unknown Source)
>
> ***
>
> Thanks
>
> Peppe
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Re: [JPP-Devel] Fwd: Re: Edgar's CTS and Help documentation

2007-07-09 Thread Edgar Soldin
another idea.. the exception is thrown by the FileReader which means 
that Classloader found the file, but the file reader didn't find it with 
the path delivered by the Classloader.

On which drive (network drive?), or is there something special in your 
filesystem is the oj installation located?
Which jdk/jre are you running?

regards agn ede
--
> --- Edgar Soldin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto:
> Hi Edgar
> I try to test the last nightly build of Openjump 1.2B.
> Actually I am testing openjump-20070627-0014 with
> Windows XP
> 
> All files from gt2jump.cts-0.1a are in OJ/lib/ext
> 
> This is the CLASSPATH in OpenJUMP.EXE:
>
> CLASSPATH=%LIB%/bsh-2.0b4.jar;%LIB%/Buoy.jar;%LIB%/Jama-1.0.1.jar;%LIB%/jdom.jar;%LIB%/jts-1.7.2.jar;%LIB%/jump-workbench-20070627-0014.jar;%LIB%/jump-api-20070627-0014.jar;%LIB%/xercesImpl.jar;%LIB%/xml-apis.jar;%LIB%/xml-apis-ext.jar;%LIB%/log4j-1.2.8.jar;%LIB%/batik/batik-all.jar;%LIB%/jmat_5.0.jar;%LIB%/ermapper.jar;%LIB%/jai_codec.jar;%LIB%/jai_core.jar;%LIB%/ext
>
>
> **
>
> This is the error message.
>
> "can't locate  cs.conf. make sure is in the classpath
> (exception) "
>
> java.lang.Exception:  Can't locate cs.conf. Make sure
> it's in the classpath.
>   at
> de.soldin.gt2jump.cts.WKTCSLoader.(WKTCSLoader.java:68)
>   at
> de.soldin.gt2jump.cts.CSComboBox.(CSComboBox.java:48)
>   at
> sun.reflect.NativeConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance0(Native
> Method)
>   at
> sun.reflect.NativeConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance(Unknown
> Source)
>   at
> sun.reflect.DelegatingConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance(Unknown
> Source)
>   at java.lang.reflect.Constructor.newInstance(Unknown
> Source)
>   at java.lang.Class.newInstance0(Unknown Source)
>   at java.lang.Class.newInstance(Unknown Source)
>   at org.swixml.DefaultFactory.newInstance(Unknown
> Source)
>   at org.swixml.Parser.getSwing(Unknown Source)
>   at org.swixml.Parser.getSwing(Unknown Source)
>   at org.swixml.Parser.parse(Unknown Source)
>   at org.swixml.SwingEngine.render(Unknown Source)
>   at org.swixml.SwingEngine.render(Unknown Source)
>   at org.swixml.SwingEngine.render(Unknown Source)
>   at
> de.soldin.gt2jump.cts.CSLayerSetExtension.execute(CSLayerSetExtension.java:218)
>   at
> com.vividsolutions.jump.workbench.plugin.AbstractPlugIn$1.actionPerformed(AbstractPlugIn.java:130)
>   at
> javax.swing.AbstractButton.fireActionPerformed(Unknown
> Source)
>   at
> javax.swing.AbstractButton$Handler.actionPerformed(Unknown
> Source)
>   at
> javax.swing.DefaultButtonModel.fireActionPerformed(Unknown
> Source)
>   at javax.swing.DefaultButtonModel.setPressed(Unknown
> Source)
>   at javax.swing.AbstractButton.doClick(Unknown Source)
>   at
> javax.swing.plaf.basic.BasicMenuItemUI.doClick(Unknown
> Source)
>   at
> javax.swing.plaf.basic.BasicMenuItemUI$Handler.mouseReleased(Unknown
> Source)
>   at java.awt.Component.processMouseEvent(Unknown
> Source)
>   at javax.swing.JComponent.processMouseEvent(Unknown
> Source)
>   at java.awt.Component.processEvent(Unknown Source)
>   at java.awt.Container.processEvent(Unknown Source)
>   at java.awt.Component.dispatchEventImpl(Unknown
> Source)
>   at java.awt.Container.dispatchEventImpl(Unknown
> Source)
>   at java.awt.Component.dispatchEvent(Unknown Source)
>   at
> java.awt.LightweightDispatcher.retargetMouseEvent(Unknown
> Source)
>   at
> java.awt.LightweightDispatcher.processMouseEvent(Unknown
> Source)
>   at
> java.awt.LightweightDispatcher.dispatchEvent(Unknown
> Source)
>   at java.awt.Container.dispatchEventImpl(Unknown
> Source)
>   at java.awt.Window.dispatchEventImpl(Unknown Source)
>   at java.awt.Component.dispatchEvent(Unknown Source)
>   at java.awt.EventQueue.dispatchEvent(Unknown Source)
>   at
> java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpOneEventForFilters(Unknown
> Source)
>   at
> java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEventsForFilter(Unknown
> Source)
>   at
> java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEventsForHierarchy(Unknown
> Source)
>   at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEvents(Unknown
> Source)
>   at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEvents(Unknown
> Source)
>   at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.run(Unknown Source)
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Re: [JPP-Devel] Fwd: Re: Edgar's CTS and Help documentation

2007-07-09 Thread Edgar Soldin

hmm .. because openjump 1.2b needs java5 to run I ran cts extension in

java5 .. no problems ... weird thing that .. anyway .. please tell me your

exact java version and i'll setup your oj/java/cts combination here ..

maybe i'll find out something .. bis dahin ede 



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> 

> --- Edgar Soldin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto:

> 

>> another idea.. the exception is thrown by the

>> FileReader which means

>> that Classloader found the file, but the file reader

>> didn't find it with

>> the path delivered by the Classloader.

>>

>> On which drive (network drive?),

> 

> ... Hard Dive (C)...

> 

>> or is there

>> something special in your

>> filesystem is the oj installation located?

> 

> ...I don't think so...

> 

>> Which jdk/jre are you running?

> 

> ..Well, Probabily that could be the reason. Some weeks

> ago I passed from 1.4 to 1.5. Since I never tested

> your plugin before, I am not sure that probabily it

> works with JRE 1.4. I will do other test with older

> JRE version.

> 

> Ciao, Peppe

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Re: [JPP-Devel] [jump-users] [Fwd: File format plugins]

2007-08-24 Thread Edgar Soldin
the gt2 reader writer extension (not updated since 2004), installs as
extra entry in file menu, supports
gml2, shape, gtopo30, ascii, mapinfo
as they came with gt2... not sure about the last three (if raster or
vector, only vector supported by the extension) .. tested were only gml2
and shape then.

just to remind of it .. regards edgar
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> file-load dialog for OpenJUMP
>
> stefan
> -
>
> Does anyone know of any file based readers and writers or Image plugins
> for JUMP not included in the following list?
>
> *Raster*
> ECW - Standard
> GeoTiff/Tiff + World - Standard
> JPG, PNG, JPG - Standard
> MrSID -Standard
>
> *Vector*
> ESRI Shapefile - Standard
> WKT - Standard
> FME GML - Standard
> GML 2.0 - Standard
> JUMP GML - Standard
>
> DXF - Michael
> MIF - Michael
> SAIF - Me
> MOEP - Me
> (MIF - Michael, not working currently)
> CSV - Pirol
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Re: [JPP-Devel] [udig-devel] Transformation/Reprojection

2007-09-05 Thread Edgar Soldin
 is suitable for
>>> OpenJUMP etc...
>>>
>>> Since this question is asked every couple of months by a jump developer
>>> it has made its way into the geotools user guide:
>>> - http://docs.codehaus.org/display/GEOTDOC/Welcome+to+JUMP+Developers
>>>   
>>>> It seems to me that it would make sense to share reporojection code
>>>> between OpenJUMP and UDig, especially if we can transform individual
>>>> coordinate and don't need to deal with the feature model problem.
>>>>
>>>> 
>>> Yes it makes sense to share; interfaces via geoapi and implementation
>>> via geotools, and hopfully swing widgets and swt widgets as well ;-)
>>>
>>> Don't worry about stealing worry about forking; if you see anything you
>>> want out of udig lets make sure we can place it in a common library so
>>> we can share maintence cost.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Jody
>>> ___
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>>>
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Re: [JPP-Devel] R: [Fwd: [jump-devel] Projection with Geotools2 CRS]

2007-09-14 Thread Edgar Soldin
P.Rizzi Ag.Mobilità Ambiente wrote:
> Seriously speaking, the projection part of GT2 is, IMHO, probably 
> the only part worth considering, but I have no idea of how much 
> it is entangled with all the rest (and I don't want to know, either).
>   
as far as I my test went, it showed that at least the crs projection
part is not depending on the whole package, but only the projection jars.

regards ede
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> Bye
> Paolo Rizzi
>
>
>   
>> The Sunburned Surveyor
>>
>> On 9/13/07, Stefan Steiniger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hei Larry,
>>>
>>> as far as i remember Edgar has a transformation/projection 
>>>   
>> plugin for
>> 
>>> JUMP on his website. But one of the problems was, that we 
>>>   
>> do not speak
>> 
>>> about one jar, but several jars.. (it requires for instance 
>>>   
>> jai.. who
>> 
>>> knows why?). And I am not sure if the same system edgard employed is
>>> still working with newer GT versions.
>>>
>>> look for the coordinate transformation plugin on the OJ-wiki
>>> http://openjump.org/wiki/show/Plugins
>>>
>>> stefan
>>>
>>> Larry Becker schrieb:
>>>   
>>>> Hi Edgar,
>>>>
>>>>   It isn't the difficulty of doing transformations that I 
>>>> 
>> fear.  Just
>> 
>>>> the difficulty of interfacing GT2 to OpenJump.  I'm sure we are
>>>> willing to learn though if you're offering to teach.  :-)
>>>>
>>>>   More seriously - are you saying that we can just add a 
>>>> 
>> GT2 jar, wrap
>> 
>>>> it in an interface like some of the guys have been 
>>>> 
>> kicking around, and
>> 
>>>> get instant transformation?
>>>>
>>>>   What would we do for a start?   Add a Layer->reproject function?
>>>>
>>>> regards,
>>>> Larry
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 9/13/07, Stefan Steiniger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> probably rather to this list ;)
>>>>>
>>>>>  Original-Nachricht 
>>>>> Betreff: [jump-devel] Projection with Geotools2 CRS
>>>>> Datum: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 21:00:44 +0200
>>>>> Von: Edgar Soldin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>> Antwort an: JUMP Developers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>> An: JUMP Developers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello All,
>>>>>
>>>>> because of all the comments related to projection 
>>>>>   
>> (interfaces) , here is
>> 
>>>>> an example of the simplicity in using GT2 CRS for 
>>>>>   
>> projection/transformation
>> 
>>>>> SNIPPET-->
>>>>> CoordinateOperationFactory coFactory =
>>>>> FactoryFinder.getCoordinateOperationFactory(null);
>>>>> MathTransform transform;
>>>>> src = 
>>>>>   
>> FactoryFinder.getCRSFactory(null).createFromWKT("PROJCS[\"DHDN
>> 
>>>>> / Gauss-Kruger Zone 3\", GEOGCS[\"DHDN\", DATUM[\"Deutsches
>>>>> Hauptdreiecksnetz\", SPHEROID[\"Bessel 1841\", 
>>>>>   
>> 6377397.155, 299.1528128,
>> 
>>>>> AUTHORITY[\"EPSG\",\"7004\"]], TOWGS84[598.1, 73.7, 418.2,
>>>>> 0.2018, 0.04495, 
>>>>>   
>> -2.45499974, 6.7],
>> 
>>>>> AUTHORITY[\"EPSG\",\"6314\"]], PRIMEM[\"Greenwich\", 0.0,
>>>>> AUTHORITY[\"EPSG\",\"8901\"]], UNIT[\"degree of
>>>>> angle\",0.017453292519943295], AXIS[\"Geodetic longitude\",EAST],
>>>>> AXIS[\"Geodetic latitude\",NORTH], AUTHORITY[\"EPSG\",\"4314\"]],
>>>>> PROJECTION[\"Transverse_Mercator\"], PARAMETER[\"semi_major\",
>>>>> 6377397.155], PARAMETER[\"semi_minor\", 6356078.962818189],
>>>>> PARAMETER[\"central_meridian\", 8.991],
>>>>> PARAMETER[\"latitude_of_origin\", 0.0], 
>>>>>   
>> PARAMETER[\"scale_fa

Re: [JPP-Devel] Extension class loader

2007-09-14 Thread Edgar Soldin
well .. if there would be a possibility to define a custom class loader 
this would enable an extension to load its own jars circumventing 
conflicts with possible existing other versions of a library used by 
jump or another extension. a nice feature from my point of view.

problem is: as far as i understand _all jars_ in 'ext' and its 
subfolders currently get included in the default classloaders classpath 
by the extension manager in order to find an initialize the plugins. 
anybody knows if this is still true? so to avoid conflicts currently 
have to be put outside of 'ext'. don't know any extension doing so by now.

in the end: custom classloaders really help to seperate 
plugins/extensions from each other, thus preventing problems. also it 
makes fiddling with the startup script (classloader var) obsolete, 
making extension installation more user friendly (why should users care 
about the classpath?).

anyway while writing the gt2readerwrite extension i experimented with a 
custom classloader to find all available gt2 io modules. see this

SNIP-->
/**
 * This is thought of as a way to dynamically load the gt2 
readerwriter modules
 * from a directory of choice. this way they don't have reside in 
the general classpath
 * but can be put in separate directory.
 * 
 * The property "user.dir" works for windows, i doubt it'll do for 
linux/unix.
 * 
 *
 * @return a classloader object, containing all available jars in 
the specified directory
 */
public static ClassLoader createLoader(){
final String SEP = System.getProperty("file.separator");
String mod_dir = SEP+"lib"+SEP+"ext"+SEP+"readwrite";
File workingDir = new File(System.getProperty("user.dir"));
   
System.out.println("Working Dir: "+workingDir.getPath());
   
   
File extensionDir = new File(workingDir.getPath()+mod_dir);
if (!extensionDir.exists())
extensionDir = new 
File(workingDir.getPath()+SEP+".."+mod_dir);
   
System.out.println("Extension Dir: 
"+extensionDir.getPath());   
   
File[] entries = extensionDir.listFiles();
Collection urls = new Vector();
try {
urls.add(extensionDir.toURL());
} catch (MalformedURLException e1) {}
for (int i = 0; entries != null && i < entries.length; i++) {
try {
urls.add(entries[i].toURL());
} catch (MalformedURLException e) { e.printStackTrace(); }
}
   
System.out.println("ExtDir contains: "+urls.toString());
   
return new URLClassLoader((URL[])urls.toArray(new URL[]{}));   
}
<--SNIP

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> classloaders then we shouldn't
>
> Paul
>
> Paul Austin wrote:
>   
>> Right now the class loader used for loading extension classes does not
>> have a parent class loader set see
>> com.vividsolutions.jump.workbench.plugin.PlugInManager.
>>
>> I think that it should have a parent and it be set to the class loader
>> of the PlugInManager class (which is the system class path).
>>
>> Can anyone see any issues with doing this?
>>
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Re: [JPP-Devel] R: Extension class loader

2007-09-14 Thread Edgar Soldin
this is as i understand it as well ... ede
> Java classloading is a _very_ delicate thing.
> I wouldn't change anything if not necessary.
> Since it now works (I think it works) I see no reason to change it.
> It may as well be that it has no parent for some specific reason.
>
> Also the Java spec for ClassLoader.getParent() says:
> "...Returns the parent class loader for delegation. 
> Some implementations may use null to represent the bootstrap class loader. 
> This method will return null in such implementations if this class loader's 
> parent 
> is the bootstrap class loader."
>
> This sounds like saying that even if a ClassLoader returns a null parent, 
> it doesn't mean it has no parent, but it has the bootstrap loader has parent.
>
> Bye
> Paolo Rizzi
>
>
>   
>> -Messaggio originale-
>> Da: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>> conto di Paul
>> Austin
>> Inviato: venerdì 14 settembre 2007 18.03
>> A: JUMP Developer
>> Oggetto: [JPP-Devel] Extension class loader
>>
>>
>> Right now the class loader used for loading extension classes does not
>> have a parent class loader set see
>> com.vividsolutions.jump.workbench.plugin.PlugInManager.
>>
>> I think that it should have a parent and it be set to the class loader
>> of the PlugInManager class (which is the system class path).
>>
>> Can anyone see any issues with doing this?
>>
>> Paul
>>
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Re: [JPP-Devel] R: [Fwd: [jump-devel] Projection with Geotools2 CRS] (needed jars)

2007-09-14 Thread Edgar Soldin
I just doublecheck it at home... yes needed as by version 2.3 of 
geotools is mere 4 jars namely

gt2-api, gt2-referencing, gt2-epsg-wkt & geoapi

things were really cleaned up in between.. remember the original cts 
extension is from 2004

regards ede
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> P.Rizzi Ag.Mobilità Ambiente wrote:
>   
>> Seriously speaking, the projection part of GT2 is, IMHO, probably 
>> the only part worth considering, but I have no idea of how much 
>> it is entangled with all the rest (and I don't want to know, either).
>>   
>> 
> as far as I my test went, it showed that at least the crs projection
> part is not depending on the whole package, but only the projection jars.
>
> regards ede
> --
>
>   
>> Bye
>> Paolo Rizzi
>>
>>
>>   
>> 
>>> The Sunburned Surveyor
>>>
>>> On 9/13/07, Stefan Steiniger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>   
>>>> Hei Larry,
>>>>
>>>> as far as i remember Edgar has a transformation/projection 
>>>>   
>>>> 
>>> plugin for
>>> 
>>>   
>>>> JUMP on his website. But one of the problems was, that we 
>>>>   
>>>> 
>>> do not speak
>>> 
>>>   
>>>> about one jar, but several jars.. (it requires for instance 
>>>>   
>>>> 
>>> jai.. who
>>> 
>>>   
>>>> knows why?). And I am not sure if the same system edgard employed is
>>>> still working with newer GT versions.
>>>>
>>>> look for the coordinate transformation plugin on the OJ-wiki
>>>> http://openjump.org/wiki/show/Plugins
>>>>
>>>> stefan
>>>>
>>>> Larry Becker schrieb:
>>>>   
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Edgar,
>>>>>
>>>>>   It isn't the difficulty of doing transformations that I 
>>>>> 
>>>>>   
>>> fear.  Just
>>> 
>>>   
>>>>> the difficulty of interfacing GT2 to OpenJump.  I'm sure we are
>>>>> willing to learn though if you're offering to teach.  :-)
>>>>>
>>>>>   More seriously - are you saying that we can just add a 
>>>>> 
>>>>>   
>>> GT2 jar, wrap
>>> 
>>>   
>>>>> it in an interface like some of the guys have been 
>>>>> 
>>>>>   
>>> kicking around, and
>>> 
>>>   
>>>>> get instant transformation?
>>>>>
>>>>>   What would we do for a start?   Add a Layer->reproject function?
>>>>>
>>>>> regards,
>>>>> Larry
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 9/13/07, Stefan Steiniger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>   
>>>>>> probably rather to this list ;)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Original-Nachricht 
>>>>>> Betreff: [jump-devel] Projection with Geotools2 CRS
>>>>>> Datum: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 21:00:44 +0200
>>>>>> Von: Edgar Soldin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>> Antwort an: JUMP Developers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>> An: JUMP Developers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello All,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> because of all the comments related to projection 
>>>>>>   
>>>>>> 
>>> (interfaces) , here is
>>> 
>>>   
>>>>>> an example of the simplicity in using GT2 CRS for 
>>>>>>   
>>>>>> 
>>> projection/transformation
>>> 
>>>   
>>>>>> SNIPPET-->
>>>>>> CoordinateOperationFactory coFactory =
>>>>>> FactoryFinder.getCoordinateOperationFactory(null);
>>>>>> MathTransform transform;
>>>>>> src = 
>>>>>>   
>>>>>> 
>>> FactoryFinder.getCRSFactory(null).createFromWKT("PROJCS[\"DHDN
>>> 
>>>   
>>>>>> / Gauss-Kruger Zone 3\", GEOGCS[\"DHDN\", DATUM[\"Deutsches
>&g

Re: [JPP-Devel] [Fwd: [jump-devel] Projection with Geotools2 CRS]

2007-09-14 Thread Edgar Soldin
greetings sunburned and all,
>  What happens
> when GeoTools moves on to a different set of projection code? What
> happens when Refraction Research abandons the project because of a
> lack of funding?
>   
well were still free to use the existing working code. also we can write 
a new extension to use the new 'projection code' as a replacement 
extension. remember its only a wrapper/interface using gt's mighty 
magic. and they really make it simple as the interface is jts with is 
used by jump also.
> Could we maintain and improve the code on our own?
>   
as for now i think gt2 stable means stable for production use. true as 
long as there proof otherwise :). still i think, this question is a bit 
like thinking about modding/maintaining other thirdparty libs (e.g. 
database drivers),. this does not happen. we either tell gt2 folks about 
the bug, maybe deliver a patch, but in the end the question is merely: 
does the lib do what its expected to do or try another lib (version or 
another lib at all).
> But I'm very much a rookie programmer, and the GeoTools code may just
> be to advanced for me to easily understand.
>   
i think they have only a very modular clearly structured architecture .. 
which makes it very good maintainable and extensible .. btw respect for 
this to the geotools dev team.

regards ede
> The Sunburned Surveyor
>
> On 9/13/07, Stefan Steiniger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> Hei Larry,
>>
>> as far as i remember Edgar has a transformation/projection plugin for
>> JUMP on his website. But one of the problems was, that we do not speak
>> about one jar, but several jars.. (it requires for instance jai.. who
>> knows why?). And I am not sure if the same system edgard employed is
>> still working with newer GT versions.
>>
>> look for the coordinate transformation plugin on the OJ-wiki
>> http://openjump.org/wiki/show/Plugins
>>
>> stefan
>>
>> Larry Becker schrieb:
>> 
>>> Hi Edgar,
>>>
>>>   It isn't the difficulty of doing transformations that I fear.  Just
>>> the difficulty of interfacing GT2 to OpenJump.  I'm sure we are
>>> willing to learn though if you're offering to teach.  :-)
>>>
>>>   More seriously - are you saying that we can just add a GT2 jar, wrap
>>> it in an interface like some of the guys have been kicking around, and
>>> get instant transformation?
>>>
>>>   What would we do for a start?   Add a Layer->reproject function?
>>>
>>> regards,
>>> Larry
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9/13/07, Stefan Steiniger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>   
>>>> probably rather to this list ;)
>>>>
>>>>  Original-Nachricht 
>>>> Betreff: [jump-devel] Projection with Geotools2 CRS
>>>> Datum: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 21:00:44 +0200
>>>> Von: Edgar Soldin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> Antwort an: JUMP Developers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> An: JUMP Developers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>
>>>> Hello All,
>>>>
>>>> because of all the comments related to projection (interfaces) , here is
>>>> an example of the simplicity in using GT2 CRS for projection/transformation
>>>>
>>>> SNIPPET-->
>>>> CoordinateOperationFactory coFactory =
>>>> FactoryFinder.getCoordinateOperationFactory(null);
>>>> MathTransform transform;
>>>> src = FactoryFinder.getCRSFactory(null).createFromWKT("PROJCS[\"DHDN
>>>> / Gauss-Kruger Zone 3\", GEOGCS[\"DHDN\", DATUM[\"Deutsches
>>>> Hauptdreiecksnetz\", SPHEROID[\"Bessel 1841\", 6377397.155, 299.1528128,
>>>> AUTHORITY[\"EPSG\",\"7004\"]], TOWGS84[598.1, 73.7, 418.2,
>>>> 0.2018, 0.04495, -2.45499974, 6.7],
>>>> AUTHORITY[\"EPSG\",\"6314\"]], PRIMEM[\"Greenwich\", 0.0,
>>>> AUTHORITY[\"EPSG\",\"8901\"]], UNIT[\"degree of
>>>> angle\",0.017453292519943295], AXIS[\"Geodetic longitude\",EAST],
>>>> AXIS[\"Geodetic latitude\",NORTH], AUTHORITY[\"EPSG\",\"4314\"]],
>>>> PROJECTION[\"Transverse_Mercator\"], PARAMETER[\"semi_major\",
>>>> 6377397.155], PARAMETER[\"semi_minor\", 6356078.962818189],
>>>> PARAMETER[\"central_meridian\", 8.991],
>>>> PARAMETER[\"latitude_of_origin\",

Re: [JPP-Devel] [Fwd: [jump-devel] Projection with Geotools2 CRS]

2007-09-14 Thread Edgar Soldin
Hey Larry,
>   More seriously - are you saying that we can just add a GT2 jar, wrap
> it in an interface like some of the guys have been kicking around, and
> get instant transformation?
>   
make it 4 jars and use given jts objects .. voila, see:
http://docs.codehaus.org/display/GEOTDOC/01+CRS+Helper+Class

what i did originally was filtering geometries coordinates, create and 
replace new geometries with them and save the old ones for a possible 
'UNDO'.
it looks like by version gt2.3, they have a utility class that can 
manipulate geometries directly. *nice*
>   What would we do for a start?   Add a Layer->reproject function?
>   
to check how good it works yes... i suggested a user interface earlier 
this year.. maybe you want to check
http://www.jump-project.org/pipermail/jump-devel/2007-July/000629.html

re-regards ede
> regards,
> Larry
>
>
>
> On 9/13/07, Stefan Steiniger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> probably rather to this list ;)
>>
>>  Original-Nachricht 
>> Betreff: [jump-devel] Projection with Geotools2 CRS
>> Datum: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 21:00:44 +0200
>> Von: Edgar Soldin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Antwort an: JUMP Developers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> An: JUMP Developers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>> Hello All,
>>
>> because of all the comments related to projection (interfaces) , here is
>> an example of the simplicity in using GT2 CRS for projection/transformation
>>
>> SNIPPET-->
>> CoordinateOperationFactory coFactory =
>> FactoryFinder.getCoordinateOperationFactory(null);
>> MathTransform transform;
>> src = FactoryFinder.getCRSFactory(null).createFromWKT("PROJCS[\"DHDN
>> / Gauss-Kruger Zone 3\", GEOGCS[\"DHDN\", DATUM[\"Deutsches
>> Hauptdreiecksnetz\", SPHEROID[\"Bessel 1841\", 6377397.155, 299.1528128,
>> AUTHORITY[\"EPSG\",\"7004\"]], TOWGS84[598.1, 73.7, 418.2,
>> 0.2018, 0.04495, -2.45499974, 6.7],
>> AUTHORITY[\"EPSG\",\"6314\"]], PRIMEM[\"Greenwich\", 0.0,
>> AUTHORITY[\"EPSG\",\"8901\"]], UNIT[\"degree of
>> angle\",0.017453292519943295], AXIS[\"Geodetic longitude\",EAST],
>> AXIS[\"Geodetic latitude\",NORTH], AUTHORITY[\"EPSG\",\"4314\"]],
>> PROJECTION[\"Transverse_Mercator\"], PARAMETER[\"semi_major\",
>> 6377397.155], PARAMETER[\"semi_minor\", 6356078.962818189],
>> PARAMETER[\"central_meridian\", 8.991],
>> PARAMETER[\"latitude_of_origin\", 0.0], PARAMETER[\"scale_factor\",
>> 1.0], PARAMETER[\"false_easting\", 350.0],
>> PARAMETER[\"false_northing\", 0.0], UNIT[\"metre\",1.0],
>> AXIS[\"Easting\",EAST], AXIS[\"Northing\",NORTH],
>> AUTHORITY[\"EPSG\",\"31467\"]]");
>>  //src = FactoryFinder.getCRSAuthorityFactory("EPSG",
>> null).createCoordinateReferenceSystem("EPSG:31467");
>> trg = FactoryFinder.getCRSAuthorityFactory("EPSG",
>> null).createCoordinateReferenceSystem("EPSG:4326");
>> CoordinateOperation co = coFactory.createOperation(src, trg);
>>
>> transform = co.getMathTransform();
>> <--SNIPPET
>>
>> the snippet is only rough cut out of my tests. It will not compile in
>> this state, but still it shows how easy it is with GT2 to get a
>> transformation (from WKT or EPSG ID, as you choose) for projecting
>> coordinates. The EPSG entries of the factory are of course
>> request-/listable by name(description).
>>
>> just trying to lobby for the GT2 library, as I get the impression the
>> list is a bit afraid of it ;).
>>
>> regards ede
>>
>> --
>> public class WhoDidIt{ // A comment. I love comments
>>   private static Person sender;
>>
>>   public static void main (String[] foo){
>>
>>   sender = new Person();
>>   sender.setName(new String[]{"Edgar", "Soldin"});
>>
>>   Address address = new Address();
>>   address.setStreet("Stadtweg 119");
>>   address.setZip(39116);
>>   address.setCity("Magdeburg");
>>   address.setCountry("Germany");
>>
>>   sender.setAddress(address);
>>
>>   sender.setMobilePhone(" +49(0)171-2782880 ");
>>   sender.setWebSiteUrl(" http://www.soldin.de ");
>>   sender.setEmail(" [EMAIL PROTECTED] ");
>>   sender.setPGPPubl

Re: [JPP-Devel] [Fwd: [jump-devel] Projection with Geotools2 CRS]

2007-09-14 Thread Edgar Soldin
what do you think of the user interface i suggested?

ede
--
> Hmm.  I'm intrigued.  If no one else wants to take this on, I'll have
> a go at it.
>
> I realize that there is a discussion about the best interface going
> on, but this will be a proof (more like a re-proof) of concept.
>
> regards,
> Larry
>
> On 9/14/07, Edgar Soldin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> Hey Larry,
>> 
>>>   More seriously - are you saying that we can just add a GT2 jar, wrap
>>> it in an interface like some of the guys have been kicking around, and
>>> get instant transformation?
>>>
>>>   
>> make it 4 jars and use given jts objects .. voila, see:
>> http://docs.codehaus.org/display/GEOTDOC/01+CRS+Helper+Class
>>
>> what i did originally was filtering geometries coordinates, create and
>> replace new geometries with them and save the old ones for a possible
>> 'UNDO'.
>> it looks like by version gt2.3, they have a utility class that can
>> manipulate geometries directly. *nice*
>> 
>>>   What would we do for a start?   Add a Layer->reproject function?
>>>
>>>   
>> to check how good it works yes... i suggested a user interface earlier
>> this year.. maybe you want to check
>> http://www.jump-project.org/pipermail/jump-devel/2007-July/000629.html
>>
>> re-regards ede
>> 
>>> regards,
>>> Larry
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9/13/07, Stefan Steiniger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>   
>>>> probably rather to this list ;)
>>>>
>>>>  Original-Nachricht 
>>>> Betreff: [jump-devel] Projection with Geotools2 CRS
>>>> Datum: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 21:00:44 +0200
>>>> Von: Edgar Soldin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> Antwort an: JUMP Developers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> An: JUMP Developers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>
>>>> Hello All,
>>>>
>>>> because of all the comments related to projection (interfaces) , here is
>>>> an example of the simplicity in using GT2 CRS for projection/transformation
>>>>
>>>> SNIPPET-->
>>>> CoordinateOperationFactory coFactory =
>>>> FactoryFinder.getCoordinateOperationFactory(null);
>>>> MathTransform transform;
>>>> src = FactoryFinder.getCRSFactory(null).createFromWKT("PROJCS[\"DHDN
>>>> / Gauss-Kruger Zone 3\", GEOGCS[\"DHDN\", DATUM[\"Deutsches
>>>> Hauptdreiecksnetz\", SPHEROID[\"Bessel 1841\", 6377397.155, 299.1528128,
>>>> AUTHORITY[\"EPSG\",\"7004\"]], TOWGS84[598.1, 73.7, 418.2,
>>>> 0.2018, 0.04495, -2.45499974, 6.7],
>>>> AUTHORITY[\"EPSG\",\"6314\"]], PRIMEM[\"Greenwich\", 0.0,
>>>> AUTHORITY[\"EPSG\",\"8901\"]], UNIT[\"degree of
>>>> angle\",0.017453292519943295], AXIS[\"Geodetic longitude\",EAST],
>>>> AXIS[\"Geodetic latitude\",NORTH], AUTHORITY[\"EPSG\",\"4314\"]],
>>>> PROJECTION[\"Transverse_Mercator\"], PARAMETER[\"semi_major\",
>>>> 6377397.155], PARAMETER[\"semi_minor\", 6356078.962818189],
>>>> PARAMETER[\"central_meridian\", 8.991],
>>>> PARAMETER[\"latitude_of_origin\", 0.0], PARAMETER[\"scale_factor\",
>>>> 1.0], PARAMETER[\"false_easting\", 350.0],
>>>> PARAMETER[\"false_northing\", 0.0], UNIT[\"metre\",1.0],
>>>> AXIS[\"Easting\",EAST], AXIS[\"Northing\",NORTH],
>>>> AUTHORITY[\"EPSG\",\"31467\"]]");
>>>>  //src = FactoryFinder.getCRSAuthorityFactory("EPSG",
>>>> null).createCoordinateReferenceSystem("EPSG:31467");
>>>> trg = FactoryFinder.getCRSAuthorityFactory("EPSG",
>>>> null).createCoordinateReferenceSystem("EPSG:4326");
>>>> CoordinateOperation co = coFactory.createOperation(src, trg);
>>>>
>>>> transform = co.getMathTransform();
>>>> <--SNIPPET
>>>>
>>>> the snippet is only rough cut out of my tests. It will not compile in
>>>> this state, but still it shows how easy it is with GT2 to get a
>>>> transformation (from WKT or EPSG ID, as you choose) for pr

[JPP-Devel] list confusion

2007-09-14 Thread Edgar Soldin
.. i am confused .. which list is the right one?

regards ede

-- 
public class WhoDidIt{ // A comment. I love comments 
  private static Person sender;

  public static void main (String[] foo){

  sender = new Person();
  sender.setName(new String[]{"Edgar", "Soldin"});

  Address address = new Address();
  address.setStreet("Stadtweg 119");
  address.setZip(39116);
  address.setCity("Magdeburg");
  address.setCountry("Germany");

  sender.setAddress(address);

  sender.setMobilePhone(" +49(0)171-2782880 ");
  sender.setWebSiteUrl(" http://www.soldin.de ");
  sender.setEmail(" [EMAIL PROTECTED] ");
  sender.setPGPPublicKey(" http://www.soldin.de/edgar_soldin.asc ");
  sender.setGender(true);

  System.out.println(sender.toString());
  }
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Re: [JPP-Devel] list confusion

2007-09-15 Thread Edgar Soldin
thanks for all replies .. this clears why some remarks seemed 
mysteriously unanswered :) ..
will use only

jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net


from now on.  regards ede
-- 
> Perhaps I can help clear the muddied water.
>
> jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net is the mailing list for
> development of OpenJUMP. This is where most of the activity has been
> recently.
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] is an old mailing list that used to
> be maintained by Refractions Research for the original JUMP. I don't
> think that it is used anymore.
>
> Does this help?
>
> The Sunburned Surveyor
>
> On 9/14/07, Larry Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> It isn't for me to say which list is right,  :-) however there is more
>> JUMP developer traffic on jump-pilot-devel than any other list that I
>> know of.
>>
>> Larry
>>
>> On 9/14/07, Edgar Soldin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>>> .. i am confused .. which list is the right one?
>>>
>>> regards ede
>>>
>>> --
>>> public class WhoDidIt{ // A comment. I love comments
>>>   private static Person sender;
>>>
>>>   public static void main (String[] foo){
>>>
>>>   sender = new Person();
>>>   sender.setName(new String[]{"Edgar", "Soldin"});
>>>
>>>   Address address = new Address();
>>>   address.setStreet("Stadtweg 119");
>>>   address.setZip(39116);
>>>   address.setCity("Magdeburg");
>>>   address.setCountry("Germany");
>>>
>>>   sender.setAddress(address);
>>>
>>>   sender.setMobilePhone(" +49(0)171-2782880 ");
>>>   sender.setWebSiteUrl(" http://www.soldin.de ");
>>>   sender.setEmail(" [EMAIL PROTECTED] ");
>>>   sender.setPGPPublicKey(" http://www.soldin.de/edgar_soldin.asc ");
>>>   sender.setGender(true);
>>>
>>>   System.out.println(sender.toString());
>>>   }
>>> }
>>>
>>>
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  private static Person sender;

  public static void main (String[] foo){

  sender = new Person();
  sender.setName(new String[]{"Edgar", "Soldin"});

  Address address = new Address();
  address.setStreet("Stadtweg 119");
  address.setZip(39116);
  address.setCity("Magdeburg");
  address.setCountry("Germany");

  sender.setAddress(address);

  sender.setMobilePhone(" +49(0)171-2782880 ");
  sender.setWebSiteUrl(" http://www.soldin.de ");
  sender.setEmail(" [EMAIL PROTECTED] ");
  sender.setPGPPublicKey(" http://www.soldin.de/edgar_soldin.asc ");
  sender.setGender(true);

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Re: [JPP-Devel] [Fwd: [jump-devel] Projection with Geotools2 CRS]

2007-09-15 Thread Edgar Soldin
Paul,

so the status quo for now in gereral openjump development is to modify 
the geometries under the mentioned entities.. and to keep a more 
difficult to realise reprojecting rendering to later?

so you want to integrate reprojecting in the core? is this correct?

regards ede
--
> Larry,
>
> Alevel we should probably have a utility class that would reproject a
> Category,a Layer, a FeatureCollection
>
> In JUMP we should have some high level utility methods to reproject the
> following. We can then leave the more detailed discussion on projection
> libraries to a later date.
>
> Task
> Category
> Layer
> FeatureCollection
> Feature
>
> Paul
>
>
> Larry Becker wrote:
>   
>> Hmm.  I'm intrigued.  If no one else wants to take this on, I'll have
>> a go at it.
>>
>> I realize that there is a discussion about the best interface going
>> on, but this will be a proof (more like a re-proof) of concept.
>>
>> regards,
>> Larry
>>
>> On 9/14/07, Edgar Soldin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>   
>> 
>>> Hey Larry,
>>> 
>>>   
>>>>   More seriously - are you saying that we can just add a GT2 jar, wrap
>>>> it in an interface like some of the guys have been kicking around, and
>>>> get instant transformation?
>>>>
>>>>   
>>>> 
>>> make it 4 jars and use given jts objects .. voila, see:
>>> http://docs.codehaus.org/display/GEOTDOC/01+CRS+Helper+Class
>>>
>>> what i did originally was filtering geometries coordinates, create and
>>> replace new geometries with them and save the old ones for a possible
>>> 'UNDO'.
>>> it looks like by version gt2.3, they have a utility class that can
>>> manipulate geometries directly. *nice*
>>> 
>>>   
>>>>   What would we do for a start?   Add a Layer->reproject function?
>>>>
>>>>   
>>>> 
>>> to check how good it works yes... i suggested a user interface earlier
>>> this year.. maybe you want to check
>>> http://www.jump-project.org/pipermail/jump-devel/2007-July/000629.html
>>>
>>> re-regards ede
>>> 
>>>   
>>>> regards,
>>>> Larry
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 9/13/07, Stefan Steiniger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>   
>>>> 
>>>>> probably rather to this list ;)
>>>>>
>>>>>  Original-Nachricht 
>>>>> Betreff: [jump-devel] Projection with Geotools2 CRS
>>>>> Datum: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 21:00:44 +0200
>>>>> Von: Edgar Soldin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>> Antwort an: JUMP Developers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>> An: JUMP Developers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello All,
>>>>>
>>>>> because of all the comments related to projection (interfaces) , here is
>>>>> an example of the simplicity in using GT2 CRS for 
>>>>> projection/transformation
>>>>>
>>>>> SNIPPET-->
>>>>> CoordinateOperationFactory coFactory =
>>>>> FactoryFinder.getCoordinateOperationFactory(null);
>>>>> MathTransform transform;
>>>>> src = FactoryFinder.getCRSFactory(null).createFromWKT("PROJCS[\"DHDN
>>>>> / Gauss-Kruger Zone 3\", GEOGCS[\"DHDN\", DATUM[\"Deutsches
>>>>> Hauptdreiecksnetz\", SPHEROID[\"Bessel 1841\", 6377397.155, 299.1528128,
>>>>> AUTHORITY[\"EPSG\",\"7004\"]], TOWGS84[598.1, 73.7, 418.2,
>>>>> 0.2018, 0.04495, -2.45499974, 6.7],
>>>>> AUTHORITY[\"EPSG\",\"6314\"]], PRIMEM[\"Greenwich\", 0.0,
>>>>> AUTHORITY[\"EPSG\",\"8901\"]], UNIT[\"degree of
>>>>> angle\",0.017453292519943295], AXIS[\"Geodetic longitude\",EAST],
>>>>> AXIS[\"Geodetic latitude\",NORTH], AUTHORITY[\"EPSG\",\"4314\"]],
>>>>> PROJECTION[\"Transverse_Mercator\"], PARAMETER[\"semi_major\",
>>>>> 6377397.155], PARAMETER[\"semi_minor\", 6356078.962818189],
>>>>> PARAMETER[\"central_meridian\", 8.991],
>>>>> PARAMETER[\"latitude_of_origin\", 0.

Re: [JPP-Devel] [Fwd: Re: Projection with Geotools2 CRS]

2007-09-17 Thread Edgar Soldin

Not really ;) ...

after posting the snippet mentioned, i also had a look in your docs and 
found the utility class, even posted about it in the list (see attachment).
once again .. respect to you geotools folks, you really made a nice 
feature even more handy by creating the utility class.


just one question .. what is this bursa wolf parameter option?

Also I stumbled across a problem converting DHDN / Gauss Kruger 3 into 
WGS84 with the GT2.3 EPSG. It was impossible due to Bursa Wolf (?*) 
parameters missing. Setting a GT2.3 parameter named 
LENIENT_DATUM_SHIFT 
<http://udig.refractions.net/docs/api-geotools/org/geotools/factory/Hints.html#LENIENT_DATUM_SHIFT> 

enabled the conversion but gave inexact results. Maybe the dialogue 
should enable the user to set options like that to modify the way 
GT2.3 works?
Finally I compared the wkt strings from GT2.3 and my original  
cts.0.1a  and found some missing parameters  in the DHDN definition. 
Using the old WKT string it worked perfectly and gave nearly identical 
results. 


cheers too .. ede
--

Stefan Steiniger wrote:

 Original-Nachricht 
Betreff: Re: [jump-devel] Projection with Geotools2 CRS
Datum: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 18:22:55 -0700
Von: Jody Garnett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Antwort an: JUMP Developers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
An: JUMP Developers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Referenzen: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hi Edgar:

We have a different idea of simplicity ;-) I tend to use the utility
class to get the job done.

CoordinateReferenceSystem src = CRS.decode("EPSG:31467");
CoordinateReferenceSystem trg  = CRS.decode("EPSG:4326");
MathTransform transform = CRS.findMathTransform( src, trg );

Geometry targetGeometry = JTS.transform( sourceGeometry, transform);

This example and others are in the user guide:
- http://docs.codehaus.org/display/GEOTDOC/01+CRS+Helper+Class

Cheers,
Jody
  

Hello All,

because of all the comments related to projection (interfaces) , here 
is an example of the simplicity in using GT2 CRS for 
projection/transformation


SNIPPET-->
   CoordinateOperationFactory coFactory = 
FactoryFinder.getCoordinateOperationFactory(null);

   MathTransform transform;
   src = 
FactoryFinder.getCRSFactory(null).createFromWKT("PROJCS[\"DHDN / 
Gauss-Kruger Zone 3\", GEOGCS[\"DHDN\", DATUM[\"Deutsches 
Hauptdreiecksnetz\", SPHEROID[\"Bessel 1841\", 6377397.155, 
299.1528128, AUTHORITY[\"EPSG\",\"7004\"]], TOWGS84[598.1, 73.7, 
418.2, 0.2018, 0.04495, -2.45499974, 
6.7], AUTHORITY[\"EPSG\",\"6314\"]], PRIMEM[\"Greenwich\", 0.0, 
AUTHORITY[\"EPSG\",\"8901\"]], UNIT[\"degree of 
angle\",0.017453292519943295], AXIS[\"Geodetic longitude\",EAST], 
AXIS[\"Geodetic latitude\",NORTH], AUTHORITY[\"EPSG\",\"4314\"]], 
PROJECTION[\"Transverse_Mercator\"], PARAMETER[\"semi_major\", 
6377397.155], PARAMETER[\"semi_minor\", 6356078.962818189], 
PARAMETER[\"central_meridian\", 8.991], 
PARAMETER[\"latitude_of_origin\", 0.0], PARAMETER[\"scale_factor\", 
1.0], PARAMETER[\"false_easting\", 350.0], 
PARAMETER[\"false_northing\", 0.0], UNIT[\"metre\",1.0], 
AXIS[\"Easting\",EAST], AXIS[\"Northing\",NORTH], 
AUTHORITY[\"EPSG\",\"31467\"]]");
//src = FactoryFinder.getCRSAuthorityFactory("EPSG", 
null).createCoordinateReferenceSystem("EPSG:31467");
   trg = FactoryFinder.getCRSAuthorityFactory("EPSG", 
null).createCoordinateReferenceSystem("EPSG:4326");

   CoordinateOperation co = coFactory.createOperation(src, trg);
 transform = co.getMathTransform();
<--SNIPPET

the snippet is only rough cut out of my tests. It will not compile in 
this state, but still it shows how easy it is with GT2 to get a 
transformation (from WKT or EPSG ID, as you choose) for projecting 
coordinates. The EPSG entries of the factory are of course 
request-/listable by name(description).


just trying to lobby for the GT2 library, as I get the impression the 
list is a bit afraid of it ;).


regards ede




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Re: [JPP-Devel] Bursa-wolf parameters [WAS: Projection with Geotools2 CRS]

2007-09-18 Thread Edgar Soldin
Adrian,

true, true .. well told story rhat ... thanks alot.

just to make a point:
if bursa wolf parameters are missing, the parameters for an accurate 
ellipsoid shift are missing, so results will be (very?) inaccurate?

kind regards ede
--
> Hey,
>
> In the "for dummies" collection, "geodesy for dummies", from adrian, 
> will surely become a best seller :-)
>
> Michael
>
> Adrian Custer a écrit :
>
>   
>> On Mon, 2007-09-17 at 10:46 -0700, Jody Garnett wrote:
>>  
>>
>> 
>>> Edgar Soldin wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>   
>>>> just one question .. what is this bursa wolf parameter option?
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> 
>> ...
>>
>>  
>>
>> 
>>> My impression is that this is scary math I never quite understood. The 
>>> javadocs describe it all detail (and have links to papers etc..).
>>>
>>>
>>>   
>> Well, Bursa was a 9 year old bicyclist from the Alps and...no, no, no, i
>> lie. Actually it's not particularly scary math and quite easy to
>> understand. All you really need to remember is that no one has ever been
>> to the center of the earth. 
>>
>> So everyone started surveying (mostly so the repressive central
>> governments could exploit taxes from people and have lots of jolly wars
>> where people could slog through the mud and kill each other so they'd be
>> blood and suffering for all). Each group started from some random place
>> on the surface of the earth. Right away, it becomes obvious to everyone
>> that euclidean rules don't work so well. Some didn't care so much since
>> taxes are basically arbitrary anyway and getting serious about it means
>> you'd have to walk through fields and woods and get lots of mud on your
>> shoes. Others kept at it and resorted to spherical geometry. Once you
>> start doing that precisely and at continental scales you realize that
>> doesn't really work either so you decide to try the next hardest thing,
>> an ellipsoid of rotation. Now how do you know which one to choose? Well
>> you pick one that minimizes your squared errors. All good and nice but
>> (1) you are surveying the ground which is anything but an ellipsoid
>> since it has all those ditches you keep falling into and that keep
>> getting your clothes covered in mud and (2) you are not perfect
>> especially with all that mud on your paper. So you have a bunch of
>> errors. Well everyone that does this comes up with lots of different
>> ellipsoids that work really nice for their data and everyone is sure
>> they clearly have found the 'one true ellipsoid' and they decide to use
>> that for all their work. Then everyone guesses where they actually are
>> on each of their particular ellipsoids which involves lots of going
>> outside at night and looking up from the mud at the stars. But then it's
>> not like the edges of each survey was nice and level on these ellipsoids
>> either --- think of the eastern USA. You can start nice and clean and
>> warm and dry at an inn in Boston on the edge of the sea drinking clam
>> chowder and having a good time but a few months later it will be bitter,
>> bitter cold in that tiny town of Denver because you are somewhere like a
>> mile high up in the air and you're wet and covered in mud from slogging
>> through the plains in a snowstorm. So you've got a pretty good idea that
>> your data is on a major slant but, well, you'll do your best to make up
>> for it but it really doesn't help the effort any, especially what with
>> all that mud that's still itching in your hair. So your errors may be a
>> wee bit big but hey it's all right: it's good enough to wage lots of
>> good wars with lots of mud and blood and to keep collecting lots of
>> taxes so no one cares too much. 
>>
>> Fast forward to more recent times where some people want to talk to lots
>> of different governments and work with lots of different data. They take
>> everyone's guess and try to line them up. Well it turns out, when you
>> try to line everything up, that the center points of all the different
>> ellipses aren't really the same points and even the orientation of the
>> three axes are all a bit off because of how everyone guessed where their
>> were on their ellipsoids. So now, to go from one data set to another so
>> they line up "the best," you need estimates of how much to rotate each
>> of the axes and how to shift the center point around; all this 

jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net

2007-11-07 Thread edgar . soldin
TH=%PLUGINDIR%;%CLASSPATH%
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> REM Add extension directory to path, so extensions can put DLL's 
>>>>>>>>>>> there [Jon Aquino 2005-03-18]
>>>>>>>>>>> set PATH=%PATH%;%LIB%/ext;
>>>>>>>>>>> start javaw -Dlog4j.configuration=file:./log4j.xml -Xms256M 
>>>>>>>>>>> -Xmx256M -cp %CLASSPATH% 
>>>>>>>>>>> com.vividsolutions.jump.workbench.JUMPWorkbench -properties 
>>>>>>>>>>> workbench-properties.xml -plug-in-directory %LIB%/ext
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I shall await for your further advise
>>>>>>>>>>> Aneel
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>   
>>>>>>>>>>>> set LIB=../lib
>>>>>>>>>>>> set CLASSPATH=../conf;...SNIP
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> REM add plugindir to classpath
>>>>>>>>>>>> set PLUGINDIR=..\lib\ext
>>>>>>>>>>>> set CLASSPATH=%PLUGINDIR%;%CLASSPATH%
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> REM Add extension directory to path, so extensions can put DLL's 
>>>>>>>>>>>> there [Jon Aquino 2005-03-18]
>>>>>>>>>>>> set PATH=%PATH%;%LIB%/ext;%LIB%/ext/ext
>>>>>>>>>>>> start javaw -Dlog4j.configuration=file:./log4j.xml -Xms256M 
>>>>>>>>>>>> -Xmx256M -cp %CLASSPATH% 
>>>>>>>>>>>> com.vividsolutions.jump.workbench.JUMPWorkbench -properties 
>>>>>>>>>>>> workbench-properties.xml -plug-in-directory %LIB%/ext
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> above are the necessary entries. locate the line after the long 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 'set Classpath' statement and insert the 3 lines (REM..., set 
>>>>>>>>>>>> PLUGINDIR.., set CLASSPATH...) as shown above..
>>>>>>>>>>>> you can safely remove the %LIB%/ext/ext from the 'set PATH' 
>>>>>>>>>>>> statement later on, as there should be no such folder.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> btw. where did you find/download the old JavaComApi 2.0 for 
>>>>>>>>>>>> windows?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> good luck ..ede
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>   Please find the file attached herewith.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aneel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .. please send your jumpworkbench.bat and i'll advise you where 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to edit it :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

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2007-11-30 Thread Edgar Soldin
Hello Aneel,

edit the gps.bat .. after the line ":start"

FROM-->
:start
java -Xmx128M -Dorg.xml.sax.driver=...SNIP

TO-->
:start
"c:\Program files\java\jdk1.6.0_02\bin\java.exe" -Xmx128M 
-Dorg.xml.sax.driver=...SNIP

leave the parameters as they are .. I snipped them to make the example 
shorter
do NOT forget the "s .. your path contains spaces

how does it work? ..ede
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> Dear Edgar,
> could you kindly write the detailed steps to fallow for both the 
> options; The bin folder of java is at
> 1)c:\Program files\java\jdk1.6.0_02\bin
> 2)C:\Program Files\Java\jdk1.6.0_02\jre\bin
> 3)C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.6.0_02\bin
> all of them contain java.exe and javaw.exe
>  =
> .. this explains a lot ;) .. finally..
>
> you have 2 options here...
>
> 1. add the full path to java the binaries globally (c:\program
> file\java\...\bin), replace '...'
> or
> 2. modify the batch command to include the full path e.g. c:\program
> file\java\...\bin\java.exe
>
> I'll suggest number one.
> Try to execute the gps.bat.. if it still doesnt find your java
> interpreter, doublecheck the settings. Eventually your jump should start
> when you execute the batch file.
>
> Good luck again.. ede
> --
> >  Hello Edgar,
> > I just double click the jump icon on my desktop which is linked to 
> "C:\Program Files\OpenJUMP\bin\openjump.exe.All the extensions kept in 
> ext folder work.
> >
> > Do you suggest me to try adding any items in "My 
> Computer->RTclick->properties->Advanced->Environment variabes->user 
> defined/system defined variables"
> >
> > Thanks
> > Aneel
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :
> > 
> >> hello aneel,
> >>
> >> what i don't understand now is, why the batch file does not find 
> your java interpreter (java, or javaw) ...
> >>
> >> how do you usually start jump .. please describe the process in detail!
> >>
> >> regards ede
>
>
>
> mobiles 
>   
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Re: [JPP-Devel] [jump-users] Projected Coordinate Systems

2007-11-30 Thread Edgar Soldin
Hello Tim,

I agree with Jukka on the topic. (Open-)Jump is measureless, which means 
it simply shows/projects the values (x,y) in the window. It does not 
know about projections how to interpret a specific measurement. I wrote 
an extension which reprojects coordinates of data. But still _you_ have 
to know what  the original cs is, because Jump does not know a way to 
find out.

Solution:
Reproject the Shapefile (the data must hold the new coordinates) before 
you edit it in Jump.
Or.
Try to reproject in Jump. Whether use the mentioned extension or a 
connection to GIS enabled DBMS and reproject use the dbms capabilities. 
Extensions to load/save data from/to a dbms are available. Both options 
might proof more difficult than use your commercial GIS software for the 
purpose.

Regards ede
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> Hi,
>  
> I wonder why OpenJUMP shows you lat/long coordinates.  JUMP should 
> not know anything about the projection but just show the coordinates 
> that are stored inside the shapefile. Are you sure that your shapefile 
> is holding coordinates in meters?  What happens if you rename the .prj 
> file to something else and re-open the file with a) OpenJUMP and b) 
> with other software?   You should not need any plugins or anything if 
> you just want to work in the original coordinate system.
>  
> -Jukka Rahkonen-
>  
>  
>
> *Lähettäjä:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Puolesta
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Lähetetty:* 29. marraskuuta 2007 12:48
> *Vastaanottaja:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Aihe:* [jump-users] Projected Coordinate Systems
>
> Hello Jump Users,
>
> Does Open Jump read /use  the Project-Files (*.prj), which comes
> along with  ESRI Shapefile formats?
>
> I have a  Shapefile (*.shp), and the Coordinate System of this
> file is  a  Projected Coordinate System.
>
> (like  "UTM Zone 32" or  "Gauss Krueger Zone 2"...)
>
> But for some reason, in Open Jump my Shapefile will always be
> displayed with Geographic Coordinates (Lat°  Long°).
> I do not get meters, but degrees.
> Plus the Geometry of my region differs from what it should look like.
>  
> Whatever Projection I assign to my Shapefile (in ARCMap), Open
> Jump won´t accept it
>
> (With georeferenced GeoTIFF Rasters it works perfectly alright  
> -  Unit: Meters, Geomety: correct, Coordinate System: correct)
>
> (OpenJump 1.2D / Windows XP)
>
> What am I doing wrong?
>
> Thank you for helping !!
> Greets
> Tim
>
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2007-12-04 Thread Edgar Soldin
Please insert a space before '-Xmx128M' .. this is a parameter ;)
Make sure that the java call after ':start' including is _one_ line only 
with a return after the last parameter '-plug-in-directory %PLUGINDIR%'

now? ede
--
>   
> Dear Edgar,
> I tried the step you suggested, the fallowing is the result
> Regards
> Aneel
>
>
> The edited gps.bat is as below
>
> @echo off
>
> for %%i in (..\lib\*.*) do (
> set jarfile=%%i
>
> rem If we append to a variable inside the for, only the last entry will
> rem be kept. So append to the variable outside the for.
> rem See 
> http://www.experts-exchange.com/Operating_Systems/MSDOS/Q_20561701.html.
> rem [Jon Aquino]
>
> call :setclass
> )  
>
> set PLUGINDIR=../lib/ext
> set CLASSPATH=%PLUGINDIR%;%CLASSPATH%
> set PATH=%PATH%;.;%PLUGINDIR%
>
> for %%i in (%PLUGINDIR%\*.*) do (
> set jarfile=%%i
>
> rem If we append to a variable inside the for, only the last entry will
> rem be kept. So append to the variable outside the for.
> rem See 
> http://www.experts-exchange.com/Operating_Systems/MSDOS/Q_20561701.html.
> rem [Jon Aquino]
>
> call :setclass
> )
>
> echo %CLASSPATH%;
>
> :start 
> "c:\Program files\java\jdk1.6.0_02\bin\java.exe"
> -Xmx128M -Dorg.xml.sax.driver=org.apache.xerces.parsers.SAXParser 
> com.vividsolutions.jump.workbench.JUMPWorkbench -properties 
> workbench-properties.xml -plug-in-directory %PLUGINDIR%
>
>
> goto :eof
>
> :setclass
> set CLASSPATH=%jarfile%;%CLASSPATH%
> set jarfile=
> goto :eof
>
> :eof
>
> ===on running gps.bat=
>
>
> C:\>gps.bat
> ../lib/ext;;
> '"c:\Program files\java\jdk1.6.0_02\bin\java.exe"-Xmx128M' is not recognized 
> as
> an internal or external command,
> operable program or batch file.
>
> C:\>
>
> ==Error file 
> java.io.FileNotFoundException: Can't find settings file 'gps.conf' for plugin 
> 'GPS Tracker'. Hint: Put it in the classpath!
>   at 
> de.soldin.gt2jump.gps.GPSTrackerPlugin.readFile(GPSTrackerPlugin.java:630)
>   at 
> de.soldin.gt2jump.gps.GPSTrackerPlugin.initialize(GPSTrackerPlugin.java:243)
>   at de.soldin.gt2jump.gps.GPSExtension.configure(GPSExtension.java:38)
>   at 
> com.vividsolutions.jump.workbench.plugin.PlugInManager.loadConfigurations(PlugInManager.java:90)
>   at 
> com.vividsolutions.jump.workbench.plugin.PlugInManager.load(PlugInManager.java:84)
>   at 
> com.vividsolutions.jump.workbench.JUMPWorkbench.main(JUMPWorkbench.java:250)
>   at 
> com.vividsolutions.jump.workbench.JUMPWorkbench.main(JUMPWorkbench.java:213)
>
>
>
> On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 Edgar Soldin wrote :
>   
>> Hello Aneel,
>>
>> edit the gps.bat .. after the line ":start"
>>
>> FROM-->
>> :start
>> java -Xmx128M -Dorg.xml.sax.driver=...SNIP
>>
>> TO-->
>> :start
>> "c:\Program files\java\jdk1.6.0_02\bin\java.exe" -Xmx128M 
>> -Dorg.xml.sax.driver=...SNIP
>>
>> leave the parameters as they are .. I snipped them to make the example 
>> shorter
>> do NOT forget the "s .. your path contains spaces
>>
>> how does it work? ..ede
>> --
>>
>>
>> 
>>> Dear Edgar,
>>> could you kindly write the detailed steps to fallow for both the options; 
>>> The bin folder of java is at
>>> 1)c:\Program files\java\jdk1.6.0_02\bin
>>> 2)C:\Program Files\Java\jdk1.6.0_02\jre\bin
>>> 3)C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.6.0_02\bin
>>> all of them contain java.exe and javaw.exe
>>>  =
>>> .. this explains a lot ;) .. finally..
>>>
>>> you have 2 options here...
>>>
>>> 1. add the full path to java the binaries globally (c:\program
>>> file\java\...\bin), replace '...'
>>> or
>>> 2. modify the batch command to include the full path e.g. c:\program
>>> file\java\...\bin\java.exe
>>>
>>> I'll suggest number one.
>>> Try to execute the gps.bat.. if it still doesnt find your java
>>> interpreter, doublecheck the settings. Eventually your jump should start
>>> when you execute the batch file.
>>>
>>> Good luck again.. ede
>>> --
>>>   
>>>>  Hello Edgar,
>>>> I just double click the jump icon on my desktop which is linked to 
>>>> "C:\Program Files\OpenJUMP\bin\openjump.exe.

[JPP-Devel] Happy new year (Open)Jump folks

2008-01-03 Thread edgar . soldin
.. ein frohes neues Jahr.. ede

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public class WhoDidIt{ // A comment. I love comments 
  private static Person sender;

  public static void main (String[] foo){

  sender = new Person();
  sender.setName(new String[]{"Edgar", "Soldin"});

  Address address = new Address();
  address.setStreet("Stadtweg 119");
  address.setZip(39116);
  address.setCity("Magdeburg");
  address.setCountry("Germany");

  sender.setAddress(address);

  sender.setMobilePhone(" +49(0)171-2782880 ");
  sender.setWebSiteUrl(" http://www.soldin.de ");
  sender.setEmail(" [EMAIL PROTECTED] ");
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Re: [JPP-Devel] Coordinate system (Edgar's plugin)

2008-04-20 Thread Edgar Soldin
ndow.java:806)
> at java.awt.Dialog.setVisible(Dialog.java:985)
> at
> de.soldin.gt2jump.cts.CSLayerSetExtension.execute(CSLayerSetExtension.java:293)
> at com.vividsolutions.jump.workbench.plugin.AbstractPlugIn
> $1.actionPerformed(AbstractPlugIn.java:130)
> at
> javax.swing.AbstractButton.fireActionPerformed(AbstractButton.java:1995)
> at javax.swing.AbstractButton
> $Handler.actionPerformed(AbstractButton.java:2318)
> at
> javax.swing.DefaultButtonModel.fireActionPerformed(DefaultButtonModel.java:387)
> at
> javax.swing.DefaultButtonModel.setPressed(DefaultButtonModel.java:242)
> at javax.swing.AbstractButton.doClick(AbstractButton.java:357)
> at
> javax.swing.plaf.basic.BasicMenuItemUI.doClick(BasicMenuItemUI.java:1220)
> at javax.swing.plaf.basic.BasicMenuItemUI
> $Handler.mouseReleased(BasicMenuItemUI.java:1261)
> at java.awt.Component.processMouseEvent(Component.java:6041)
> at
> javax.swing.JComponent.processMouseEvent(JComponent.java:3265)
> at java.awt.Component.processEvent(Component.java:5806)
> at java.awt.Container.processEvent(Container.java:2058)
> at java.awt.Component.dispatchEventImpl(Component.java:4413)
> at java.awt.Container.dispatchEventImpl(Container.java:2116)
> at java.awt.Component.dispatchEvent(Component.java:4243)
> at
> java.awt.LightweightDispatcher.retargetMouseEvent(Container.java:4322)
> at
> java.awt.LightweightDispatcher.processMouseEvent(Container.java:3986)
> at
> java.awt.LightweightDispatcher.dispatchEvent(Container.java:3916)
> at java.awt.Container.dispatchEventImpl(Container.java:2102)
> at java.awt.Window.dispatchEventImpl(Window.java:2440)
> at java.awt.Component.dispatchEvent(Component.java:4243)
> at java.awt.EventQueue.dispatchEvent(EventQueue.java:599)
> at
> java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpOneEventForFilters(EventDispatchThread.java:273)
> at
> java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEventsForFilter(EventDispatchThread.java:183)
> at
> java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEventsForHierarchy(EventDispatchThread.java:173)
> at
> java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEvents(EventDispatchThread.java:168)
> at
> java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEvents(EventDispatchThread.java:160)
> at
> java.awt.EventDispatchThread.run(EventDispatchThread.java:121)
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Kind regards,
>
>   


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public class WhoDidIt{ // A comment. I love comments 
  private static Person sender;

  public static void main (String[] foo){

  sender = new Person();
  sender.setName(new String[]{"Edgar", "Soldin"});

  Address address = new Address();
  address.setStreet("Stadtweg 119");
  address.setZip(39116);
  address.setCity("Magdeburg");
  address.setCountry("Germany");

  sender.setAddress(address);

  sender.setMobilePhone(" +49(0)171-2782880 ");
  sender.setWebSiteUrl(" http://www.soldin.de ");
  sender.setEmail(" [EMAIL PROTECTED] ");
  sender.setPGPPublicKey(" http://www.soldin.de/edgar_soldin.asc ");
  sender.setGender(true);

  System.out.println(sender.toString());
  }
}


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Re: [JPP-Devel] [XxxJUMP-users] Re: coordinate system

2008-04-22 Thread edgar . soldin
ugIn
>>> $1.actionPerformed(AbstractPlugIn.java:130)
>>>at javax.swing.AbstractButton.fireActionPerformed(Unknown Source)
>>>at javax.swing.AbstractButton$Handler.actionPerformed(Unknown Source)
>>>at javax.swing.DefaultButtonModel.fireActionPerformed(Unknown Source)
>>>at javax.swing.DefaultButtonModel.setPressed(Unknown Source)
>>>at javax.swing.AbstractButton.doClick(Unknown Source)
>>>at javax.swing.plaf.basic.BasicMenuItemUI.doClick(Unknown Source)
>>>at javax.swing.plaf.basic.BasicMenuItemUI
>>> $Handler.mouseReleased(Unknown Source)
>>>at java.awt.Component.processMouseEvent(Unknown Source)
>>>at javax.swing.JComponent.processMouseEvent(Unknown Source)
>>>at java.awt.Component.processEvent(Unknown Source)
>>>at java.awt.Container.processEvent(Unknown Source)
>>>at java.awt.Component.dispatchEventImpl(Unknown Source)
>>>at java.awt.Container.dispatchEventImpl(Unknown Source)
>>>at java.awt.Component.dispatchEvent(Unknown Source)
>>>at java.awt.LightweightDispatcher.retargetMouseEvent(Unknown Source)
>>>at java.awt.LightweightDispatcher.processMouseEvent(Unknown Source)
>>>at java.awt.LightweightDispatcher.dispatchEvent(Unknown Source)
>>>at java.awt.Container.dispatchEventImpl(Unknown Source)
>>>at java.awt.Window.dispatchEventImpl(Unknown Source)
>>>at java.awt.Component.dispatchEvent(Unknown Source)
>>>at java.awt.EventQueue.dispatchEvent(Unknown Source)
>>>at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpOneEventForFilters(Unknown
>>> Source)
>>>at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEventsForFilter(Unknown Source)
>>>at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEventsForHierarchy(Unknown
>>> Source)
>>>at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEvents(Unknown Source)
>>>at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEvents(Unknown Source)
>>>at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.run(Unknown Source)
>>>
>>>   
>> 
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  Address address = new Address();
  address.setStreet("Stadtweg 119");
  address.setZip(39116);
  address.setCity("Magdeburg");
  address.setCountry("Germany");

  sender.setAddress(address);

  sender.setMobilePhone(" +49(0)171-2782880 ");
  sender.setWebSiteUrl(" http://www.soldin.de ");
  sender.setEmail(" [EMAIL PROTECTED] ");
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Re: [JPP-Devel] Soldin's CTS plugin

2008-04-29 Thread edgar . soldin
Hi Peppe,

Which version of jump do you have  it running on?
How is the undo feature working for you?

Kind Regards Ede
--
> Hi all
>
> I played around with Edgar Soldin's coordinate
> transformation plugin.
> I created my own conf EPGS file which works on Italian
> projections (which was quite difficult since bursa
> wolf parameters). 
> I am going to ugrade this page
> http://openjump.org/wiki/new/Working+with+Projections
> on OJ honline help doc with an description of cts
> plugin, how to create personal conf files and how to
> use it.
> I also will put a link to italian conf file for users.
> If you have other cts conf files (which work) and you
> want to share with other user, this would be an
> opportunity.
>
> regards
>
> Peppe 
>
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  private static Person sender;

  public static void main (String[] foo){

  sender = new Person();
  sender.setName(new String[]{"Edgar", "Soldin"});

  Address address = new Address();
  address.setStreet("Stadtweg 119");
  address.setZip(39116);
  address.setCity("Magdeburg");
  address.setCountry("Germany");

  sender.setAddress(address);

  sender.setMobilePhone(" +49(0)171-2782880 ");
  sender.setWebSiteUrl(" http://www.soldin.de ");
  sender.setEmail(" [EMAIL PROTECTED] ");
  sender.setPGPPublicKey(" http://www.soldin.de/edgar_soldin.asc ");
  sender.setGender(true);

  System.out.println(sender.toString());
  }
}


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Re: [JPP-Devel] Edgar's CTS plugin and Bursa Wolf problems - Test

2008-05-03 Thread Edgar Soldin
sformation
>>> from Italian ROMA40 to WGS84) I had the official parameters for
>>> Italy mainland with a maximum error of 4 metres.
>>> Well, I tested these parameters in some places "mainland" in
>>> Italy, I had an errror even of 60 metres, for instance, in
>>> Southern Italy
>>> More than this I discover that some regions/areas defined their
>>> own parameters.
>>> This happens becaue the  transformation between ROMA40, ED50 e
>>> WGS84 is not correlated by geometric relations or simple
>>> math but by comparing coordinates of some points within different .
>>>
>>>
>>> The resault is this:
>>>
>>> Edgar's plugin works fine but people need to know the BW
>>> parameters for the area of their interest. And sometimes this is
>>> not easy to do. (in respect to EPSG, geotools, etc). I image
>>> this is a common problem in Europe
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> I will go anyway to write the tutorial page about projections on
>>> wiki since this could be useful for who is interested. I will also
>>> put on wiki some modified cs.conf (configurations) files
>>> optrimized for local transformation (Umbria-Tuscany, South Tyrol
>>> and Campania-Basilicata).
>>> Note that there is no problem with transformation between crs that
>>> don't BW parameters (eg. WGS84 to WGS84/UTM..) to be used for GPS
>>> fanatics!
>>>
>>> **
>>> The bulk of my letter is the follow notes:
>>> Since OpenJUMP has some warping tools (Warp and even New affine
>>> transformation). Is it possible to calculate local Bursa-Wolf
>>> parameters using these tools on some reference points? Does
>>> somebody thought about before?
>>> This probabily could be an interesting area of research (for
>>> pratical usage) of OpenJUMP: A way or a plugin that calculate
>>> local Bursa Wolf parameters.
>>>
>>> I pass these questions expecially to Europian collugues since this
>>> maybe is acommon pronblem: Gauss (Kruge, Boaga, etc) vs WGS84 or
>>> ETRS89
>>>
>>> ***
>>>
>>> Regards and thanks for the answers
>>>
>>> Peppe
>>>
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Re: [JPP-Devel] @ Edgar: structure of cs.conf file in CRS plugin

2008-05-03 Thread Edgar Soldin
hi peppe,

well .. the first entries are commented out, so you can safely ignore 
them..

not sure why i kept them.. ok, i had a look now..  as far as i remember 
the german definitions had exchanged axes (x/y was y/x) .. so I kept the 
original defs delivered to me just for security purposes. Btw. I 
actually never studied geoinformatics or such .. so ''all'' I did was 
integrating geotools with jump in some aspects.

Thanks for your efforts.. ede
--
> Hi Edgar,
>   just a question about your plugin
>
>   I saw in the cs.conf file that the wkt spec of EPSG codes are writen 2 
> times 
>   ***
>   #PROJCS["WGS 84 / UTM...
>   #GEOGCS["WGS 84"
>   ...
>
>   PROJCS["WGS 84 / UTM...
>   GEOGCS["WGS 84"
>   ...
>   *
>
>   What is the reason? I want to put it on the wiki page
>
>   Regards
>
>   Peppe
>
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  private static Person sender;

  public static void main (String[] foo){

  sender = new Person();
  sender.setName(new String[]{"Edgar", "Soldin"});

  Address address = new Address();
  address.setStreet("Stadtweg 119");
  address.setZip(39116);
  address.setCity("Magdeburg");
  address.setCountry("Germany");

  sender.setAddress(address);

  sender.setMobilePhone(" +49(0)171-2782880 ");
  sender.setWebSiteUrl(" http://www.soldin.de ");
  sender.setEmail(" [EMAIL PROTECTED] ");
  sender.setPGPPublicKey(" http://www.soldin.de/edgar_soldin.asc ");
  sender.setGender(true);

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  }
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[JPP-Devel] GPS Input extension for OJ? [WAS]: [jump-users] @Ede New article on OJ wiki on projections

2008-05-05 Thread edgar . soldin
your most welcome peppe,

I don't have jump or java programming environment setup these days (as I 
am not working on/with that). But still If you could deliver the 
pictures, I would write some text on the wiki. Also I volunteer to do 
some spelling corrections.No logins necessary?

Regarding GPS extension:
Actually the combination of the extensions was meant to empower the user 
to use jump (v1.1 then) for surveiing with a mobile computer.. 
Unfortunately it was more like a prototype for my superiors at the 
university. It was never used practically, so there was no bugfixing, 
updating etc.
The question to me is: When I actually update any extension, in my spare 
time, without any connection to my daytime business, there should be an 
active user community in need for the features. To date, question or 
messages regarding the extensions came rather sparsely. Even some 
thoughts about the redesign of the CTS extension, that were on the 
mailing list, had no real response.

Maybe the guys from lat/lon (is that stefan?) in Bonn are interested in 
further development of these extensions, and could put some manpower or 
support into the matter. I am currently in Cologne, which is pretty 
close to Bonn. For example I could need a gps mouse to work on the GPS 
extension.
There are some open tasks: e.g. The serial interface library is 
completely rewritten inbetween by some opensource people. The old one 
from sun only working for win32 (and sparc?), is not distributed 
anymore. The old opensource lib for linux is also not available anymore. 
So currently it wouldn't work under linux.

But as I said... the question for me is... who would need this and 
actively use it? Comments anyone?

Kind regards ...Ede
--
> Thanks Ede,
> I will provide to add this one. Anyhow,  you are most
> welcome to edit it and do modifications.
> BTW: I saw also  your GPS plugin. It seems not working
> with OJ while it seems that Jump 1.2 opens it (I have
> no GPS to test it). 
> If it is fixed for OJ, together with your CRS plugin,
> it colud be  a base for a future OpenJUMp for mobile
> devise (wish for the future?) 
>
> Peppe
>
>
> --- Edgar Soldin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto:
>
>   
>> Well done Peppe,
>>
>> I like it ... just one another point:
>> Reprojecting is done _only_ when the small checkbox
>> on the right is 
>> activated (which it gets automagically if a CRS is
>> assigned). The user 
>> can assign a different CRS (e.g. wrong assigned on
>> the first hand) by 
>> manually unchecking the checkbox and simply
>> selecting another from the 
>> dropdown field.
>> Maybe you want to point this out, as I think now
>> this is not clear from 
>> your guide.
>>
>> But overall... sehr gut :) .. Ede
>> --
>>
>>
>> 
>>> Dear users,
>>> I wrote this note abou how to re-project vector
>>>   
>> datas
>> 
>>> using OpenJUMP and Edgar Soldin's CRS plugin
>>>
>>>
>>>   
> http://openjump.org/wiki/show/Working+with+Projections
>   
>>> I would appreciate a comment and ideas
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>>
>>> Peppe
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>> public class WhoDidIt{ // A comment. I love comments
>>
>>   private static Person sender;
>>
>>   public static void main (String[] foo){
>>
>>   sender = new Person();
>>   sender.setName(new String[]{"Edgar", "Soldin"});
>>
>>   Address address = new Address();
>>   address.setStreet("Stadtweg 119");
>>   address.setZip(39116);
>>   address.setCity("Magdeburg");
>>   address.setCountry("Germany");
>>
>>   sender.setAddress(address);
>>
>>   sender.setMobilePhone(" +49(0)171-2782880 ");
>>   sender.setWebSiteUrl(" http://www.soldin.de ");
>>   sender.setEmail(" [EMAIL PROTECTED] ");
>>   sender.setPGPPublicKey("
>> http://www.soldin.de/edgar_soldin.asc ");
>>   sender.setGender(true);
>>
>>   System.out.println(sender.toString());
>>   }
>> }
>>
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Re: [JPP-Devel] Mobile GPS solution in OJ

2008-05-23 Thread Edgar Soldin
... would you or Peppe offer to assist me by using and testing an 
updated gps tracker extension for OJ?

regards ede
--
>   
> Dear Edgar, 
>
> I am aware of the constraints you mentioned in your communication to 
> jump-users forum on May 5th .Please recall I have actively tried to work with 
> the plugin in Nov-DEC07 but failed to takeoff.Pl keep us informed of further 
> progress with GPS plugin
>
> Aneel
>   


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public class WhoDidIt{ // A comment. I love comments 
  private static Person sender;

  public static void main (String[] foo){

  sender = new Person();
  sender.setName(new String[]{"Edgar", "Soldin"});

  Address address = new Address();
  address.setStreet("Stadtweg 119");
  address.setZip(39116);
  address.setCity("Magdeburg");
  address.setCountry("Germany");

  sender.setAddress(address);

  sender.setMobilePhone(" +49(0)171-2782880 ");
  sender.setWebSiteUrl(" http://www.soldin.de ");
  sender.setEmail(" [EMAIL PROTECTED] ");
  sender.setPGPPublicKey(" http://www.soldin.de/edgar_soldin.asc ");
  sender.setGender(true);

  System.out.println(sender.toString());
  }
}


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Re: [JPP-Devel] Mobile GPS solution in OJ

2008-05-24 Thread Edgar Soldin
Well,

as I don't own a gps mouse, primarly the now unfunctional input has to 
be tested. So anybody owning a device is a potential tester. Volunteers 
wanted :)

Anything else depends on that. I would suggest I'll fix that and we'll 
see what should be done else.
Btw. If the cts extension isn't installed it tracks with the CRS the gps 
input puts out.

But still I'd really appreciate some more testing offers...

regards ede
--
> Hi,
>
> I am ready to test it as well.  Tracker could be a good start to GPS field 
> data collector extension, something equivalent to ESRI ArcPAD, TDS SOLO 
> Field, Terra Sync/Pathfinder office etc.  I have some ideas for such an 
> extension.
> -Jukka Rahkonen-
>
>
> -Alkuperäinen viesti-
> Lähettäjä: [EMAIL PROTECTED] puolesta: Edgar Soldin
> Lähetetty: pe 23.5.2008 22:05
> Vastaanottaja: ANEEL KUMAR.V; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; List for discussion of JPP 
> development and use.; JUMP Developers; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Aihe: Re: [JPP-Devel] Mobile GPS solution in OJ
>  
> ... would you or Peppe offer to assist me by using and testing an 
> updated gps tracker extension for OJ?
>
> regards ede
> --
>   
>>   
>> Dear Edgar, 
>>
>> I am aware of the constraints you mentioned in your communication to 
>> jump-users forum on May 5th .Please recall I have actively tried to work 
>> with the plugin in Nov-DEC07 but failed to takeoff.Pl keep us informed of 
>> further progress with GPS plugin
>>
>> Aneel
>>   
>> 
>
>
>   


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public class WhoDidIt{ // A comment. I love comments 
  private static Person sender;

  public static void main (String[] foo){

  sender = new Person();
  sender.setName(new String[]{"Edgar", "Soldin"});

  Address address = new Address();
  address.setStreet("Stadtweg 119");
  address.setZip(39116);
  address.setCity("Magdeburg");
  address.setCountry("Germany");

  sender.setAddress(address);

  sender.setMobilePhone(" +49(0)171-2782880 ");
  sender.setWebSiteUrl(" http://www.soldin.de ");
  sender.setEmail(" [EMAIL PROTECTED] ");
  sender.setPGPPublicKey(" http://www.soldin.de/edgar_soldin.asc ");
  sender.setGender(true);

  System.out.println(sender.toString());
  }
}


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Re: [JPP-Devel] [jump-users] Re: Mobile GPS solution in OJ

2008-05-27 Thread Edgar Soldin
The extension is using a java gps framework which can be found here
http://javagps.sourceforge.net/
and should work as smoothly as in 2004 (at least I hope so) as soon as 
the serial input is brought back to life. Though there might  be 
problems with changes between jump 1.1.1 & the recent openjump... but 
I'll take care of that then.

Thanks so far.. ede
--
> Hello Edgar,
>
> I think it should be possible to spend You a mouse for the development of the 
> plugin. I will discuss it tomorrow in the team and give You soon a response.
>
> Two years ago we made some experiences gathering data from a gps receiver by 
> a quickly developed standalone java tool. maybe the source code could also 
> help you developing a gps plugin for OJ for realtime gps data import??
>
> Kindly regards
> Arnd 
>
>   
>> good idea ..
>>
>> maybe you (PIROL) or the guys from lat/lon (Andreas? are you reading 
>> me?) can spend a gps mouse for a month or so ...
>> how about it?
>>
>> regards ede
>> --
>> 
>>> Hello Edgar,
>>>
>>> may be that I missunderstood what is needed...
>>> So, I want to ask if it is helpful when You get a receiver for Your 
>>> development from someone?
>>> Then it should be a receiver which could provide data in NMEA and also 
>>> SIRF protocol.
>>>
>>> Kindly regards
>>> Arnd
>>>
>>> Edgar Soldin schrieb:
>>>   
>>>> Arnd Kielhorn wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hello Edgar,
>>>>>
>>>>> does it make any differences what chipset the GPS receiver have, 
>>>>> when You only want to get the NMEA data from it???
>>>>>   
>>>> it does when I have to spend my own private money ;) ... my point 
>>>> about it is just, if I consider a device it should be a fair trade of 
>>>> value vs. function.. I don't want it only to check the input.
>>>>
>>>> But still: If  I don't have this device anybody knows of an easy way 
>>>> to send data to the serial device to doublecheck that its working 
>>>> with java? Maybe a nullmodem cable with a second pc sending out test 
>>>> data?
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>> But by the way, if using a SIRF chipset You have to look into the 
>>>>> manual if the reciever works with fix positions or if the receiver 
>>>>> gives only the calculated position. When You use SIRF dynamically 
>>>>> (e.g. with a car) it is not so critically when the GPS works with 
>>>>> fix position. But when You use it by feet (e.g. field mapping by 
>>>>> feet) You change You position very slowly and often only a little 
>>>>> bit, so You should not have a SIRF chipset in the receiver which 
>>>>> works with fix positions.
>>>>>   
>>>> that's confusing .. sorry .. what is the exact difference between a 
>>>> _fixed_ and a _calculated_ position (isn't the position always 
>>>> _calculated_ from the satellite signals, at least is this what I 
>>>> researched for my thesis ;)
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>> So, from my point of view a GPS plugin should import the NMEA0183 
>>>>> raw data (by choosing COM/USB port and baud rate) and separate the 
>>>>> WGS84 position.
>>>>>   
>>>> the GPS tracker so far works this way (see attached graphics)
>>>> - configure it under options
>>>> - enable the gps thread receiving from the gps device (1.)
>>>> - using a java gps library it can interpret nmea,sirf & garmin
>>>> - if the gps delivers a position you may find it in the status bar
>>>> - you can enable a tracking of one tasks viewport
>>>> - you can append points to existing features, or create new features 
>>>> by inserting points to a layer (2.)
>>>>
>>>> for the screens I had setup java 1.4.2 with jump 1.1.1 to have the 
>>>> commapi working. I am not sure if OJ is still Java 4 capable?
>>>>
>>>> as mentioned before.. I will research the current state of serial 
>>>> interfaces and sun java and update the corresponding code, to make it 
>>>> work under win32.. I don't have no schedule now .. but I will find 
>>>> some time.
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>> Receivers with SIRF II or III You can costs about 40 to 100 Euros. 
>>>>> E.g. HAICOM HI-20

Re: [JPP-Devel] [jump-users] Re: Mobile GPS solution in OJ

2008-05-29 Thread edgar . soldin
Very good Arnd,

if you will supply it I actually am less picky. I even think if I run 
into severe incompatibility issues between javagps & the mouse output we 
could simply swap the model...

Essentially I am not going to survey. So the accuracy is not overly 
important. I'd say I'd need the following:

- USB Mouse with drivers which emulate serial interfaces under Windows 
XP & Linux
- with a cable of at least 2 meters, to avoid the need of an extender
- it should output NMEA for a start, but I am willing to test 
Sirf/Garmin as well

Thanks for your support.. Ede
 --

> Hello Edgar,
>
> I just had a talk in the team and I nowcan give You the positive 
> reaction. So, we can spend You a GPS mouse for the development of the 
> GPS plugin. So let us choose a usable mouse for it.
>
> Kindly regards
> Arnd
>
> Edgar Soldin schrieb:
>> The extension is using a java gps framework which can be found here
>> http://javagps.sourceforge.net/
>> and should work as smoothly as in 2004 (at least I hope so) as soon 
>> as the serial input is brought back to life. Though there might  be 
>> problems with changes between jump 1.1.1 & the recent openjump... but 
>> I'll take care of that then.
>>
>> Thanks so far.. ede
>> -- 
>>> Hello Edgar,
>>>
>>> I think it should be possible to spend You a mouse for the 
>>> development of the plugin. I will discuss it tomorrow in the team 
>>> and give You soon a response.
>>>
>>> Two years ago we made some experiences gathering data from a gps 
>>> receiver by a quickly developed standalone java tool. maybe the 
>>> source code could also help you developing a gps plugin for OJ for 
>>> realtime gps data import??
>>>
>>> Kindly regards
>>> Arnd
>>>  
>>>> good idea ..
>>>>
>>>> maybe you (PIROL) or the guys from lat/lon (Andreas? are you 
>>>> reading me?) can spend a gps mouse for a month or so ...
>>>> how about it?
>>>>
>>>> regards ede
>>>> -- 
>>>>   
>>>>> Hello Edgar,
>>>>>
>>>>> may be that I missunderstood what is needed...
>>>>> So, I want to ask if it is helpful when You get a receiver for 
>>>>> Your development from someone?
>>>>> Then it should be a receiver which could provide data in NMEA and 
>>>>> also SIRF protocol.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kindly regards
>>>>> Arnd
>>>>>
>>>>> Edgar Soldin schrieb:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Arnd Kielhorn wrote:
>>>>>>   
>>>>>>> Hello Edgar,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> does it make any differences what chipset the GPS receiver have, 
>>>>>>> when You only want to get the NMEA data from it???
>>>>>>>   
>>>>>> it does when I have to spend my own private money ;) ... my point 
>>>>>> about it is just, if I consider a device it should be a fair 
>>>>>> trade of value vs. function.. I don't want it only to check the 
>>>>>> input.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But still: If  I don't have this device anybody knows of an easy 
>>>>>> way to send data to the serial device to doublecheck that its 
>>>>>> working with java? Maybe a nullmodem cable with a second pc 
>>>>>> sending out test data?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   
>>>>>>> But by the way, if using a SIRF chipset You have to look into 
>>>>>>> the manual if the reciever works with fix positions or if the 
>>>>>>> receiver gives only the calculated position. When You use SIRF 
>>>>>>> dynamically (e.g. with a car) it is not so critically when the 
>>>>>>> GPS works with fix position. But when You use it by feet (e.g. 
>>>>>>> field mapping by feet) You change You position very slowly and 
>>>>>>> often only a little bit, so You should not have a SIRF chipset 
>>>>>>> in the receiver which works with fix positions.
>>>>>>>   
>>>>>> that's confusing .. sorry .. what is the exact difference between 
>>>>>> a _fixed_ and a _calculated_ position (isn't the position always 
>>>>>> _calculated_ from the satellite signals, at least is this what I 
>>>>>> researched for my thesis ;)
&

Re: [JPP-Devel] Workbench Properties

2008-05-29 Thread Edgar Soldin
I agree with Paul & SS on

- user profile data should reside in users home folders (present under 
MacOSX, Linux, Windows and user writeable)
- if needed the functionality should be realized with an extension to 
keep the core small

regards ede
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> On a UNIX system in the shell script I would recommend putting user 
> specific configuration into ~/.openjump rather than under sub 
> directory the open jump application directory. Remember that in a lot 
> of systems users don't have permission to write to the directories 
> where the application is stored.
>
> On windows you can get the users home directory from the %USERPROFILE% 
> environment variable so you could use this to create a settings file 
> under there.
>
> Then for a given user if you wanted to create multiple profiles you 
> would have one config file in the user's OJ config directory that 
> lists the profiles and then a sub directory for each profile. At 
> startup the user could be given an option to select the profile to 
> load (unless they checked always use a specific profile).
>
> For custom OJ distributions that a company put's together they can 
> either just use a different profile name in their batch script or 
> change the batch script to user a different config directory name.
>
> Paul
>
> Sunburned Surveyor wrote:
>> Or even /openjump/lib/ext/users...
>>
>> SS
>>
>> On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 5:04 PM, Sunburned Surveyor
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>  
>>> We could also create a /openjump/users/ folder. This would allow us to
>>> maintain our "cross-platform" status while still supporting individual
>>> user configuration settings.
>>>
>>> The Sunburned Surveyor
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 12:57 AM, Andreas Schmitz 
>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Paul Austin wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>>* All users share the same properties file unless you change it in
>>>>>  the batch script to point to a user specific directory
>>>>> 
>>>> then maybe we should change the batch scripts. Since most of the 
>>>> Windows people
>>>> will have installed at least Windows 2000/XP (and not Windows 98 
>>>> any more ;-)),
>>>> there's a good chance that they have a home directory...
>>>>
>>>> I'm also for a change in the linux script to create the $HOME/.jump 
>>>> directory if
>>>> it does not exist.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards, Andreas
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Re: [JPP-Devel] [XxxJUMP-users] Re: [jump-users] Re: Mobile GPS solution in OJ

2008-05-31 Thread Edgar Soldin
Hi Arndt,

the device seems to support NMEA over a virtual com port installed by a 
driver under windows.
Under linux it looks like it is supported by gpsd, which supplies the 
necessary kernel modules and hotplug scripts to setup a usb device node.

as far as I'm concerned, good choice Arndt.
Please send it over to

Edgar Soldin
c/o group of pictures
Bismarckstr 27-29
50672 Köln

How long can you spare the device?

.. regards ede
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> Hello Ede,
>
> could You please have a look to the HAICOM HI-204E / HI-204E.
> It is a nice receiver which can work with egnos correction signal for 
> D-GPS.
>
> product information - http://www.haicom.com.tw/gps204III_USB.aspx
> manual - http://www.haicom.com.tw/driver/HI-204III_USB.pdf
>
> I found information for a linux driver here: 
> http://myy.helia.fi/~karte/haicom_hi-204e_usb_gps_on_linux.html
>
> Kindly regards
> Arnd
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
>>
>> Very good Arnd,
>>
>> if you will supply it I actually am less picky. I even think if I run 
>> into severe incompatibility issues between javagps & the mouse output 
>> we could simply swap the model...
>>
>> Essentially I am not going to survey. So the accuracy is not overly 
>> important. I'd say I'd need the following:
>>
>> - USB Mouse with drivers which emulate serial interfaces under 
>> Windows XP & Linux
>> - with a cable of at least 2 meters, to avoid the need of an extender
>> - it should output NMEA for a start, but I am willing to test 
>> Sirf/Garmin as well
>>
>> Thanks for your support.. Ede
>> -- 
>>
>>> Hello Edgar,
>>>
>>> I just had a talk in the team and I nowcan give You the positive 
>>> reaction. So, we can spend You a GPS mouse for the development of 
>>> the GPS plugin. So let us choose a usable mouse for it.
>>>
>>> Kindly regards
>>> Arnd
>>>
>>> Edgar Soldin schrieb:
>>>> The extension is using a java gps framework which can be found here
>>>> http://javagps.sourceforge.net/
>>>> and should work as smoothly as in 2004 (at least I hope so) as soon 
>>>> as the serial input is brought back to life. Though there might  be 
>>>> problems with changes between jump 1.1.1 & the recent openjump... 
>>>> but I'll take care of that then.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks so far.. ede
>>>> -- 
>>>>> Hello Edgar,
>>>>>
>>>>> I think it should be possible to spend You a mouse for the 
>>>>> development of the plugin. I will discuss it tomorrow in the team 
>>>>> and give You soon a response.
>>>>>
>>>>> Two years ago we made some experiences gathering data from a gps 
>>>>> receiver by a quickly developed standalone java tool. maybe the 
>>>>> source code could also help you developing a gps plugin for OJ for 
>>>>> realtime gps data import??
>>>>>
>>>>> Kindly regards
>>>>> Arnd
>>>>>  
>>>>>> good idea ..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> maybe you (PIROL) or the guys from lat/lon (Andreas? are you 
>>>>>> reading me?) can spend a gps mouse for a month or so ...
>>>>>> how about it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> regards ede
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> Hello Edgar,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> may be that I missunderstood what is needed...
>>>>>>> So, I want to ask if it is helpful when You get a receiver for 
>>>>>>> Your development from someone?
>>>>>>> Then it should be a receiver which could provide data in NMEA 
>>>>>>> and also SIRF protocol.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kindly regards
>>>>>>> Arnd
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Edgar Soldin schrieb:
>>>>>>>   
>>>>>>>> Arnd Kielhorn wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hello Edgar,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> does it make any differences what chipset the GPS receiver 
>>>>>>>>> have, when You only want to get the NMEA data from it???
>>>>>>>>>   
>>>>>>>> it does when I have to spend my own private money ;) ... my 
>>>>>>>> point about it is just, if I consider a device it should be a 
>>

Re: [JPP-Devel] Try to use GeoTools SimpleFeature or extract JUMP Feature in small, portable library.

2008-06-03 Thread Edgar Soldin
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  Address address = new Address();
  address.setStreet("Stadtweg 119");
  address.setZip(39116);
  address.setCity("Magdeburg");
  address.setCountry("Germany");

  sender.setAddress(address);

  sender.setMobilePhone(" +49(0)171-2782880 ");
  sender.setWebSiteUrl(" http://www.soldin.de ");
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Re: [JPP-Devel] Style Sheet For Java FOSS Coding

2008-07-02 Thread edgar . soldin
Hi Paul,
>
>1. Avoid using inline conditionals  x ? y : z
>
whats wrong with inline conditional statements? .. regards ede

> Paul
>
> Sunburned Surveyor wrote:
>> I'm thinking about the preparation of a short document with code style
>> tips for Java FOSS programming.
>>
>> There is the concise way to code something, and then there is the way
>> to code something in a manner that will
>> makes it more understandable for the guy that has to come behind you.
>>
>> I think this is probably more important in FOSS programming than it is
>> in "normal" or proprietary programming.
>>
>> I'm not talking about where you put the curly braces or other stuff like 
>> that.
>>
>> I'm talking about things like using the "this" keyword when
>> appropriate, avoiding long method call chains in the argument list of
>> a method call, and avoiding complicated groups of statements with no
>> comments indicating the purpose or desired result.
>>
>> I realize not everyone will agree that code should be written for
>> clarity at the cost of some conciseness. However, if you have some
>> style suggestions that I could consider and include in the sheet I
>> would welcome them. (I'm not looking for stuff that is in the existing
>> Java style books. I have those. :] I'm looking for suggestions that
>> deal with the type of clarity that becomes critical in open source
>> programming, especially when a the next maintainer or contributor
>> might not be a programming professional.)
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  public static void main (String[] foo){

  sender = new Person();
  sender.setName(new String[]{"Edgar", "Soldin"});

  Address address = new Address();
  address.setStreet("Stadtweg 119");
  address.setZip(39116);
  address.setCity("Magdeburg");
  address.setCountry("Germany");

  sender.setAddress(address);

  sender.setMobilePhone(" +49(0)171-2782880 ");
  sender.setWebSiteUrl(" http://www.soldin.de ");
  sender.setEmail(" [EMAIL PROTECTED] ");
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Re: [JPP-Devel] R: R: Style Sheet For Java FOSS Coding

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  public static void main (String[] foo){

  sender = new Person();
  sender.setName(new String[]{"Edgar", "Soldin"});

  Address address = new Address();
  address.setStreet("Stadtweg 119");
  address.setZip(39116);
  address.setCity("Magdeburg");
  address.setCountry("Germany");

  sender.setAddress(address);

  sender.setMobilePhone(" +49(0)171-2782880 ");
  sender.setWebSiteUrl(" http://www.soldin.de ");
  sender.setEmail(" [EMAIL PROTECTED] ");
  sender.setPGPPublicKey(" http://www.soldin.de/edgar_soldin.asc ");
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Re: [JPP-Devel] R: R: Style Sheet For Java FOSS Coding

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   sender = new Person();
   sender.setName(new String[]{"Edgar", "Soldin"});

   Address address = new Address();
   address.setStreet("Stadtweg 119");
   address.setZip(39116);
   address.setCity("Magdeburg");
   address.setCountry("Germany");

   sender.setAddress(address);

   sender.setMobilePhone(" +49(0)171-2782880 ");
   sender.setWebSiteUrl(" http://www.soldin.de ");
   sender.setEmail(" [EMAIL PROTECTED] ");
   sender.setPGPPublicKey(" http://www.soldin.de/edgar_soldin.asc ");
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[JPP-Devel] article on java and bluetooth gps devices

2008-08-28 Thread Edgar Soldin
Hello all,

just stumbled across this article
http://developers.sun.com/mobility/apis/articles/bluetooth_gps/part1/

.. regards ede

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  private static Person sender;

  public static void main (String[] foo){

  sender = new Person();
  sender.setName(new String[]{"Edgar", "Soldin"});

  Address address = new Address();
  address.setStreet("Stadtweg 119");
  address.setZip(39116);
  address.setCity("Magdeburg");
  address.setCountry("Germany");

  sender.setAddress(address);

  sender.setMobilePhone(" +49(0)171-2782880 ");
  sender.setWebSiteUrl(" http://www.soldin.de ");
  sender.setEmail(" [EMAIL PROTECTED] ");
  sender.setPGPPublicKey(" http://www.soldin.de/edgar_soldin.asc ");
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Re: [JPP-Devel] [XxxJUMP-users] R: [XxxJUMP-users] GPS plugin - can't find gps.conf

2008-09-07 Thread Edgar Soldin
Well,

I just doublechecked with a recent openjump nightly build. Even if the 
extension would start, I doubt the GPS Menu entries would be available. 
Also I am under the impression that the old COM-API is not compatible 
with java 1.5+ ... The old combination jump 1.1.2 / java 1.4 / comm-api 
/ gps extension works as good as developed 4 years ago, but I doubt this 
might be helpful to somebody.

Good news is I am working loosely on an updated version of the extension 
which includes the former functionality but should works with openjump 
1.2 and jdk 1.5 .. The need for extra serial driver installation will be 
obsolete then. I can already confirm this aspect.

Sincerely Ede
> HI all,
> I subscript Colin's request. I ws just wandering in these days how to set up 
> GPS plugin with java. Does somebody already tested it? 
>
> Regards
>
> peppe
>
>
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>
>   
>> Da: Colin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Oggetto: [XxxJUMP-users] GPS plugin - can't find gps.conf
>> A: "openjump-users" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Data: Sabato 6 settembre 2008, 07:01
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm interested in using openjump with a raster image
>> and a GPS plugin
>> to locate my position of the raster image using Windows XP.
>> I went to
>> http://soldin.de/about/2004-jump_plugins/ and followed the
>> instructions. I've applied gt2jump.gps-0.1a.zip but the
>> url on Edgar's
>> page didn't lead me to the java comm. I found
>> javacomm20-win32.zip and
>> used this instead. Also, I have a usb GPS mouse which works
>> with
>> another application.
>>
>> I had to put javax.comm.properties in javaruntimehome/lib
>> and
>> win32com.dll in javacomm20-win32.zip/bin to get around an
>> error. Not
>> sure if this correct but the error has gone.
>>
>> When I run openjump12.exe I get an error :'Can't
>> find settings file
>> 'gps.conf'...Hint:put it in the classpath.'
>>
>> When I run a command prompt 'echo %classpath%'
>> returns %classpath% so
>> I'm guessing there's no classpath defined. So I
>> tired openjump.bat and
>> it returns and error saying 'Could not find the main
>> class'. Program
>> will exit'
>>
>> I've tried putting gps.conf file everywhere in my java
>> intall
>> directory and where openjump is installed but no luck.
>>
>> Can anyone help with gps.conf and classpath?
>>
>> Thanks in advance
>>
>> Colin
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  public static void main (String[] foo){

  sender = new Person();
  sender.setName(new String[]{"Edgar", "Soldin"});

  Address address = new Address();
  address.setStreet("Stadtweg 119");
  address.setZip(39116);
  address.setCity("Magdeburg");
  address.setCountry("Germany");

  sender.setAddress(address);

  sender.setMobilePhone(" +49(0)171-2782880 ");
  sender.setWebSiteUrl(" http://www.soldin.de ");
  sender.setEmail(" [EMAIL PROTECTED] ");
  sender.setPGPPublicKey(" http://www.soldin.de/edgar_soldin.asc ");
  sender.setGender(true);

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Re: [JPP-Devel] [XxxJUMP-users] R: [XxxJUMP-users] GPS plugin - can't find gps.conf

2008-09-07 Thread Edgar Soldin
Well,

I just doublechecked with a recent openjump nightly build. Even if the
extension would start, I doubt the GPS Menu entries would be available.
Also I am under the impression that the old COM-API is not compatible
with java 1.5+ ... The old combination jump 1.1.2 / java 1.4 / comm-api
/ gps extension works as good as developed 4 years ago, but I doubt this
might be helpful to somebody.

Good news is I am working loosely on an updated version of the extension
which includes the former functionality but should works with openjump
1.2 and jdk 1.5 .. The need for extra serial driver installation will be
obsolete then. I can already confirm this aspect.

Sincerely Ede
> HI all,
> I subscript Colin's request. I ws just wandering in these days how to set up 
> GPS plugin with java. Does somebody already tested it? 
>
> Regards
>
> peppe
>
>
> --- Sab 6/9/08, Colin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto:
>
>   
>> Da: Colin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Oggetto: [XxxJUMP-users] GPS plugin - can't find gps.conf
>> A: "openjump-users" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Data: Sabato 6 settembre 2008, 07:01
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm interested in using openjump with a raster image
>> and a GPS plugin
>> to locate my position of the raster image using Windows XP.
>> I went to
>> http://soldin.de/about/2004-jump_plugins/ and followed the
>> instructions. I've applied gt2jump.gps-0.1a.zip but the
>> url on Edgar's
>> page didn't lead me to the java comm. I found
>> javacomm20-win32.zip and
>> used this instead. Also, I have a usb GPS mouse which works
>> with
>> another application.
>>
>> I had to put javax.comm.properties in javaruntimehome/lib
>> and
>> win32com.dll in javacomm20-win32.zip/bin to get around an
>> error. Not
>> sure if this correct but the error has gone.
>>
>> When I run openjump12.exe I get an error :'Can't
>> find settings file
>> 'gps.conf'...Hint:put it in the classpath.'
>>
>> When I run a command prompt 'echo %classpath%'
>> returns %classpath% so
>> I'm guessing there's no classpath defined. So I
>> tired openjump.bat and
>> it returns and error saying 'Could not find the main
>> class'. Program
>> will exit'
>>
>> I've tried putting gps.conf file everywhere in my java
>> intall
>> directory and where openjump is installed but no luck.
>>
>> Can anyone help with gps.conf and classpath?
>>
>> Thanks in advance
>>
>> Colin
>>     
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Re: [JPP-Devel] Fwd: Do we have any GPX users?

2008-10-31 Thread edgar . soldin
Landon,

thanks for the offer, I'll do so when I have an overview.

ede
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> Ede,
>
> When you have time to do the research can you put together a simple
> task list of the improvements/changes that need to be made? If you can
> coordinate the work that needs to be done I will do some of the heavy
> lifting needed to port your plug-in to OJ 1.3.
>
> SS
>
> On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 10:22 AM,  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> I am listening :) .. and still looking forward to port the current jump
>> 1.1.1 extension to Openjump, but unfortunately still didn't find the time...
>>
>> here some info
>>
>> the GPS tracker so far works this way (see attached graphics)
>> - configure it under options
>> - enable the gps thread receiving from the gps device (1.)
>> - using a java gps library it can interpret nmea,sirf & garmin
>> - if the gps delivers a position you may find it in the status bar
>> - you can enable a tracking of one tasks viewport
>> - you can append points to existing features, or create new features by
>> inserting points to a layer (2.)
>>
>> for the screens I had setup java 1.4.2 with jump 1.1.1 to have the
>> commapi working. I am not sure if OJ is still Java 4 capable?
>>
>> as mentioned before.. I will research the current state of serial
>> interfaces and sun java and update the corresponding code, to make it
>> work under win32.. I don't have no schedule now .. but I will find some
>> time.
>>
>> regards ede
>> --
>>
>> 
>>> I thought maybe Edgar Soldin had written a plug-in that could do this.
>>> Perhaps (if he is listening) he could comment for us.
>>>
>>> Edgar did point me to the gpsylon library, which should allow OpenJUMP
>>> to read from a GPS receiver directly. This is something I would like
>>> to work on in the future, but I don't know when.
>>>
>>> The Sunburned Surveyor
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 3:23 PM, Colin East
>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>   
>>>> No worries. Thanks for get back to me anyway.
>>>>
>>>> Do you happen to know if reading a GPS input is on the 'to do' list?
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards
>>>>
>>>> Colin
>>>>
>>>> Sunburned Surveyor wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Colin,
>>>> I'm sorry I'm getting back to you so late. I'm actually talking about
>>>> GPX, which is a file format for waypoints, routes, and tracks. I'm not
>>>> talking about reading data from GPS receiver directly.
>>>> The Sunburned Surveyor
>>>> On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 7:10 PM, Colin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi!
>>>> Is this different from Edgar Soldin's GPS tool?
>>>> I ask because I'm interested in open source GIS that has 'moving map'
>>>> functionality. I have a GPS mouse plugged into a laptop and it works
>>>> with ArcGIS. I put a post on the user group as I couldn't get the tool
>>>> to work and Edgar says he needs to update it. Is there some
>>>> opportunity for collaboration?
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Colin
>>>> On Jun 25, 5:07 am, "Sunburned Surveyor"
>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I was wondering if any OpenJUMP users work with GPS data in GPX
>>>> format. I'm working on a library for GeoTools that manipulates GPX
>>>> files. The ultimate goal of this code will be to support reading,
>>>> writing, and manipulation of GPX waypoints, tracks, and routes in
>>>> OpenJUMP.
>>>> If you are a GPX user and would be interested in helping me test the
>>>> code, please let me know. I have a small Garmin GPS receiver, but I
>>>> don't know EasyGPS very well and I won't really have a lot of time to
>>>> capture my own data this summer.
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> The Sunburned Surveyor
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: [JPP-Devel] Testing Michael's DXF Plug-In

2008-10-31 Thread edgar . soldin
it's available here
http://michael.michaud.free.fr/jump/alpha/ressources/driver-dxf-0.5-20061112.zip

.. ede
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> I coul dtranslate the comments if you send me the code or if you tell me
> where to find it. :-)
> For now, I just have the jar file.
>
> 2008/10/31 Sunburned Surveyor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>   
>> Julien,
>>
>> Thanks very much for your help.
>>
>> The second DXF file screenshot looks correct. How did you get the two
>> different snapshots? Were they imported with different plug-ins?
>>
>> The Sunburned Surveyor
>>
>> P.S. - Let me know if you would be willing to translate Michael's
>> source code comments in the DXF plug-in. Even if it wasn't "proper"
>> English I think I could figure out what was going on between the
>> translated comments and the code. This would be very helpful.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 1:36 PM, julien perret <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I opened them with Michael's plugin and took the snapshots that are
>>> attached.
>>> If that is what you were expecting, I guess it worked.
>>> I don't have any experience with this plugin though and I have neither
>>>   
>> its
>> 
>>> documentation nor its code so I probably won't be of much help.
>>> I think I read somewhere that the documentation (or the comments, or
>>>   
>> both)
>> 
>>> was in french and I happen to be french (I actually work for the same
>>> company as Michael - but who cares) so if anybody has a document they
>>>   
>> want
>> 
>>> translated into a language closer to english (I can't promise it would be
>>> proper english), maybe I can help.
>>>
>>> good luck anyway
>>>
>>> 2008/10/31 Sunburned Surveyor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>   
 I forgot to attach the DXF file.

 Sorry about that.

 SS

 On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 12:46 PM, Sunburned Surveyor
 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 
> I'm trying to evaluate the DXF plug-in that Michael generously donated
> to OJ. I'm having some trouble reading the DXF file that is attached.
> I've tried to import the two parcel polygons in the file as both
> LWPolyline entities and Line entities. Neither option works. The
> version of the DXF file is 2000.
>
> Can anyone else read this DXF file successfully? Is someone else using
> Michael's DXF plug-in without problems?
>
> Is there a version limitation on the plug-in?
>
> The Sunburned Surveyor
>
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Re: [JPP-Devel] Testing Michael's DXF Plug-In

2008-10-31 Thread Edgar Soldin
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  sender.setName(new String[]{"Edgar", "Soldin"});

  Address address = new Address();
  address.setStreet("Stadtweg 119");
  address.setZip(39116);
  address.setCity("Magdeburg");
  address.setCountry("Germany");

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  sender.setWebSiteUrl(" http://www.soldin.de ");
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Re: [JPP-Devel] OpenJUMP poster / flyer

2008-12-15 Thread Edgar Soldin
just some remarks on the text and the gradient...

-->
OpenJUMP is...
. a Vector GIS (that can read rasters as well),
. not just another free demo viewer, but you can
edit, save, analyse, conflate and display your data,
. [is] working on Windows, Linux and MacOSX platforms
as it programmed in JAVA,
. [provides] an excellent framework for rapid prototyping,
. [is] freely distributed under the GNU GPL license.

<--

remarks:
1) [] should be removed, as they conflict with the head line.
2) Every line should therefore also end with a period (.)  .
3) "as it programmed in JAVA" should be "as it is .." but maybe you'd
like to use *java based* plus the term *cross platform* instead?


For the _coloured gradient_ activate the gradient tool from the palette
and click in the visualized gradient line on the bottom. two colorboxes
will appear. one on the left and another on the right. Doubleclick on
one of them to change its value in the color tool. Go back to the
gradient tool .. done..

regards ede
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> update:
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> . supports: OGC WMS & WFS
>
> stefan
>
> Stefan Steiniger schrieb:
>   
>> Hei guys,
>>
>> I though I spent this weekend a bit sensefull and created a kind of 
>> flyer. Not sure how the images come in print (I couldn't print yet), and 
>> I would also like to change the top and bottom grey bars to 
>> blue-ish/green-ish.. but I couldn't find a way in Illustrator yet to 
>> make a coloured gradient [if somebody knows...]
>>
>> Any comments? Are the fonts of good size?
>> Should we put the flyer on the webpage?
>>
>> stefan
>>
>>
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  public static void main (String[] foo){

  sender = new Person();
  sender.setName(new String[]{"Edgar", "Soldin"});

  Address address = new Address();
  address.setStreet("Stadtweg 119");
  address.setZip(39116);
  address.setCity("Magdeburg");
  address.setCountry("Germany");

  sender.setAddress(address);

  sender.setMobilePhone(" +49(0)171-2782880 ");
  sender.setWebSiteUrl(" http://www.soldin.de ");
  sender.setEmail(" ed...@soldin.de ");
  sender.setPGPPublicKey(" http://www.soldin.de/edgar_soldin.asc ");
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Re: [JPP-Devel] Question about our (the JPP) licensing authority.

2009-03-04 Thread edgar . soldin
True,

"or later versions of the GPL X.X" is the backdoor for newer GPL licences with 
more up to date legal definitions and regulations in the old GPL. But ... once 
licensed eg. 3.0 , there is no way back anymore ... without asking all 
copyright holders (code contributors). This becomes especially tricky for new 
code contributions that are automatically GPL3.

So the question is if the changes in the new welcome by the community. 


regards ede

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> Hei short answer.
>
> If the current license contains the text "or later versions of the GPL 
> X.X" then we can switch to V3. I think. But I need to do a bit of 
> reading on fsf.org pages and in the source code license annotations.
>
> stefan
>
> Sunburned Surveyor wrote:
>   
>> Julien made an interesting request that we relicenze OpenJUMP under
>> the GPL version 3. I wanted to discuss this request in a separate
>> thread, because I think it is a very important discussion.
>>
>> My first question would be: Do we have the authority to relicense OpenJUMP?
>>
>> I would think this authority to relicense OpenJUMP would lie with
>> Vivid Solutions, and all of our contributors that maintain copyright
>> over there code.
>>
>> I believe this means we can't relicense OpenJUMP, even if we wanted
>> to. This is one disadvantage of allowing contributors to keep the
>> copyright to their patches/improvements to OpenJUMP. If we could get
>> Vivid Solutions to agree to relicense the JUMP code in OJ, we'd still
>> have to get agreements from all of our pass contributors.
>>
>> That is going to be tough. :]
>>
>> Comments?
>>
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Re: [JPP-Devel] Question about our (the JPP) licensing authority.

2009-03-05 Thread edgar . soldin

> I also don't think the permission from just Vivid Solutions is
> sufficient. There have been a lot of other people contributing code to
> OJ. Our project doesn't require contributors to transfer copyright or
> the authority to relicense. That means we'd really need to contact all
> of our past contributors for permission to change the license.
>   

This is not true. Because the contributions were for a GPL'd codebase 
and are derived (subclassing, interfacing) from it, they are 
automatically GPL2. Isn't it amazing how virulent this license works :).

> I know people have reacted coldly to the idea of asking for copyright
> on contributions before, but this very issue is one reason to do it.
>   

Again not necessary as the project is already GPL. Of course has every 
author the right to do whatever with his/her own code in parallel, but 
this leads away from the topic.

> Still, GPL V2 has worked fine for us, so I don't think this is a burning 
> issue.
>   

In short there is an overview on
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_General_Public_License#Version_3

I personally favour GPL3, because it advocates free and open software 
more efficiently. But thats just my point of view.

Regards Ede
--
> SS
>
> On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 5:54 PM, Stefan Steiniger  wrote:
>   
>> Hei,
>>
>> @Ede: thanks for the comment:
>>
>> so the VividSolution note says:
>>
>>  * This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or
>>  * modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public License
>>  * as published by the Free Software Foundation; either version 2
>>  * of the License, or (at your option) any later version.
>>
>> so, we could switch to GPL V3, but if Ede is right... there really need
>> to be some "big advantages" for switching.
>>
>> Mhm.. I also just checked. GPL code can not be used on LGPL code, if I
>> understand correctly:
>> http://www.fsf.org/licensing/licenses/gpl-faq.html#SwitchToLGPL
>> but there is also:
>> http://www.fsf.org/licensing/licenses/gpl-faq.html#AllCompatibility
>> which says there is no way back from GPL/LGP v3 to v2...
>>
>> stefan
>>
>> edgar.sol...@web.de wrote:
>> 
>>> True,
>>>
>>> "or later versions of the GPL X.X" is the backdoor for newer GPL licences 
>>> with more up to date legal definitions and regulations in the old GPL. But 
>>> ... once licensed eg. 3.0 , there is no way back anymore ... without asking 
>>> all copyright holders (code contributors). This becomes especially tricky 
>>> for new code contributions that are automatically GPL3.
>>>
>>> So the question is if the changes in the new welcome by the community.
>>>
>>>
>>> regards ede
>>>
>>>  --
>>>   
 Hei short answer.

 If the current license contains the text "or later versions of the GPL
 X.X" then we can switch to V3. I think. But I need to do a bit of
 reading on fsf.org pages and in the source code license annotations.

 stefan

 Sunburned Surveyor wrote:

 
> Julien made an interesting request that we relicenze OpenJUMP under
> the GPL version 3. I wanted to discuss this request in a separate
> thread, because I think it is a very important discussion.
>
> My first question would be: Do we have the authority to relicense 
> OpenJUMP?
>
> I would think this authority to relicense OpenJUMP would lie with
> Vivid Solutions, and all of our contributors that maintain copyright
> over there code.
>
> I believe this means we can't relicense OpenJUMP, even if we wanted
> to. This is one disadvantage of allowing contributors to keep the
> copyright to their patches/improvements to OpenJUMP. If we could get
> Vivid Solutions to agree to relicense the JUMP code in OJ, we'd still
> have to get agreements from all of our pass contributors.
>
> That is going to be tough. :]
>
> Comments?
>
> The Sunburned Surveyor
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Re: [JPP-Devel] new bugs - getting ready for OJ 1.3 release - translators sought

2009-03-05 Thread edgar . soldin
>
>
> BTW: The lat/lon contributions (at least the ones I wrote) may have incorrect
> LGPL header files ("this file is part of deegree") anyway, since my new Java
> files are usually created from an eclipse template (I can change these as well
> in this process).
>   

this should be corrected soon, as it may lead to wrong conclusions. On 
the other hand it is impossible to be LGPL'd derived from GPL2 ... so no 
legal argument but a human-misunderstanding-prevention one ...

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Re: [JPP-Devel] Question about our (the JPP) licensing authority.

2009-03-05 Thread edgar . soldin
Hi Landon :)
> I think you may have understood my previous statement.
>
> I'm not saying that others contributions are not also under GPL
> version 2. I'm saying that we can't choose another license, even a
> later version of the GPL, because the contributors didn't give us that
> right explicitly.
>   

not any, but a later version of the GPL2 ...

> When I contribute to OpenJUMP I agree to release my code under the
> project's current license (GPL V2) and not under any other license or
> license version.
>   

actually you don't agree ... it is more that your work (patch, plugin or 
else) is derived from the GPL'd (open)jump codebase and therefore must 
be GPL'd.
for example:
You write a new plugin and interface a plugin interface class or extend 
an existing plugin class. Et voila, your work is derived from GPL'd code 
and therefore must be published under GPL as well.

> That is why other projects (like Geotools) require programmers to
> transfer copyright to contributions. The programmer that control's the
> copyright can relicnese the code as he pleases.
>   

makes sense. But I can imagine at least one scenario where I wouldn't 
give my copyrights away.
(Just a note: In german law copyrights can't be given away. Only 
exploitation rights and the others ..)
ok the scenario:
A company develops a software in a commercial fork and a GPL'd fork.. 
Third parties have to give their copyrights away, therefor the changes 
get integrated in the commercial version and later on in the GPL'd.
But some of these changes never come to the GPL'd version and even 
worse. Someday the company discontinues their efforts in th GPL'd fork 
and close the source completely.

> I suppose there may be some gray area when someone contributes a patch
> to an existing JUMP class or interface, since Vivid's statement in the
> header file allows transfer to a later GPL version.
>   

Nothing gray at all :) ... this is plain black and is dealt with in  the 
GPL.
http://www.fsf.org/licensing/licenses/gpl-faq.html#TheGPLSaysModifiedVersions

regards ede
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>
> On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 6:30 AM,   wrote:
>   
>>> I also don't think the permission from just Vivid Solutions is
>>> sufficient. There have been a lot of other people contributing code to
>>> OJ. Our project doesn't require contributors to transfer copyright or
>>> the authority to relicense. That means we'd really need to contact all
>>> of our past contributors for permission to change the license.
>>>
>>>   
>> This is not true. Because the contributions were for a GPL'd codebase
>> and are derived (subclassing, interfacing) from it, they are
>> automatically GPL2. Isn't it amazing how virulent this license works :).
>>
>> 
>>> I know people have reacted coldly to the idea of asking for copyright
>>> on contributions before, but this very issue is one reason to do it.
>>>
>>>   
>> Again not necessary as the project is already GPL. Of course has every
>> author the right to do whatever with his/her own code in parallel, but
>> this leads away from the topic.
>>
>> 
>>> Still, GPL V2 has worked fine for us, so I don't think this is a burning 
>>> issue.
>>>
>>>   
>> In short there is an overview on
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_General_Public_License#Version_3
>>
>> I personally favour GPL3, because it advocates free and open software
>> more efficiently. But thats just my point of view.
>>
>> Regards Ede
>> --
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>>> SS
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 5:54 PM, Stefan Steiniger  wrote:
>>>
>>>   
 Hei,

 @Ede: thanks for the comment:

 so the VividSolution note says:

  * This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or
  * modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public License
  * as published by the Free Software Foundation; either version 2
  * of the License, or (at your option) any later version.

 so, we could switch to GPL V3, but if Ede is right... there really need
 to be some "big advantages" for switching.

 Mhm.. I also just checked. GPL code can not be used on LGPL code, if I
 understand correctly:
 http://www.fsf.org/licensing/licenses/gpl-faq.html#SwitchToLGPL
 but there is also:
 http://www.fsf.org/licensing/licenses/gpl-faq.html#AllCompatibility
 which says there is no way back from GPL/LGP v3 to v2...

 stefan

 edgar.sol...@web.de wrote:

 
> True,
>
> "or later versions of the GPL X.X" is the backdoor for newer GPL licences 
> with more up to date legal definitions and regulations in the old GPL. 
> But ... once licensed eg. 3.0 , there is no way back anymore ... without 
> asking all copyright holders (code contributors). This becomes especially 
> tricky for new code contributions that are automatically GPL3.
>
> So the question is if the changes in the new welcome by the community.
>
>
> regards ede
>
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Re: [JPP-Devel] Question about our (the JPP) licensing authority.

2009-03-05 Thread Edgar Soldin
Well,

as the jump source (just checked 1.2 from vivid solutions website)
states the infamous
 * as published by the Free Software Foundation; either version 2
 * of the License, or (at your option) any later version.
paragraph.. we are free to choose ... but again, this is a one way street.

While I see personally no reason against it..
here are some more pros - http://www.gnu.org/licenses/rms-why-gplv3.html
essentially the open source is better protected with GPL3, but there
might be companies that feel attacked by the more strict rules and keep
them from commiting.

Here is as I see it. If someone feels threatened by the GPL then
probably only because this someone does mainly want to take advantage of
GPL'd software without committing own resources. A company or person
opposing version 3 of GPL should be asked: Are you planning to use legal
weaknesses of GPL2 to workaround the idea of open and free software?

On the other hand: I also see projects like the linux kernel
deliberately staying with GPL2 ...

.. just some thoughts, ede
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>
> Your are absolutely correct. I forgot about the powerful viral quality
> of the GPL. I'm not sure how that viral quality affects being able to
> move to different versions of the GPL though. This is an intersting
> legal question.
>
> SS
>
> On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 9:25 AM,   wrote:
>   
>> Hi Landon :)
>> 
>>> I think you may have understood my previous statement.
>>>
>>> I'm not saying that others contributions are not also under GPL
>>> version 2. I'm saying that we can't choose another license, even a
>>> later version of the GPL, because the contributors didn't give us that
>>> right explicitly.
>>>
>>>   
>> not any, but a later version of the GPL2 ...
>>
>> 
>>> When I contribute to OpenJUMP I agree to release my code under the
>>> project's current license (GPL V2) and not under any other license or
>>> license version.
>>>
>>>   
>> actually you don't agree ... it is more that your work (patch, plugin or
>> else) is derived from the GPL'd (open)jump codebase and therefore must
>> be GPL'd.
>> for example:
>> You write a new plugin and interface a plugin interface class or extend
>> an existing plugin class. Et voila, your work is derived from GPL'd code
>> and therefore must be published under GPL as well.
>>
>> 
>>> That is why other projects (like Geotools) require programmers to
>>> transfer copyright to contributions. The programmer that control's the
>>> copyright can relicnese the code as he pleases.
>>>
>>>   
>> makes sense. But I can imagine at least one scenario where I wouldn't
>> give my copyrights away.
>> (Just a note: In german law copyrights can't be given away. Only
>> exploitation rights and the others ..)
>> ok the scenario:
>> A company develops a software in a commercial fork and a GPL'd fork..
>> Third parties have to give their copyrights away, therefor the changes
>> get integrated in the commercial version and later on in the GPL'd.
>> But some of these changes never come to the GPL'd version and even
>> worse. Someday the company discontinues their efforts in th GPL'd fork
>> and close the source completely.
>>
>> 
>>> I suppose there may be some gray area when someone contributes a patch
>>> to an existing JUMP class or interface, since Vivid's statement in the
>>> header file allows transfer to a later GPL version.
>>>
>>>   
>> Nothing gray at all :) ... this is plain black and is dealt with in  the
>> GPL.
>> http://www.fsf.org/licensing/licenses/gpl-faq.html#TheGPLSaysModifiedVersions
>>
>> regards ede
>> --
>> 
>>> SS
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 6:30 AM,   wrote:
>>>
>>>   
> I also don't think the permission from just Vivid Solutions is
> sufficient. There have been a lot of other people contributing code to
> OJ. Our project doesn't require contributors to transfer copyright or
> the authority to relicense. That means we'd really need to contact all
> of our past contributors for permission to change the license.
>
>
>   
 This is not true. Because the contributions were for a GPL'd codebase
 and are derived (subclassing, interfacing) from it, they are
 automatically GPL2. Isn't it amazing how virulent this license works :).


 
> I know people have reacted coldly to the idea of asking for copyright
> on contributions before, but this very issue is one reason to do it.
>
>
>   
 Again not necessary as the project is already GPL. Of course has every
 author the right to do whatever with his/her own code in parallel, but
 this leads away from the topic.


 
> Still, GPL V2 has worked fine for us, so I don't think this is a burning 
> issue.
>
>
>   
 In short there is an overview on
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_General_Public_License#Version_3

 I personally favour GPL3, because it advocates free and ope

Re: [JPP-Devel] Question about our (the JPP) licensing authority.

2009-03-06 Thread edgar . soldin

>
> However, GIS data is a side product for us. Our main job is to run a
> bunch of integrated services.  We have a large variety of software in
> use, both commercial, open source and self made.  Right now we are
> missing a map component that could be embedded in our existing
> applications lacking spatial features.  Because OpenJUMP is under GPL I
> don't believe we can easily use it for that purpose. Correct me if I am
> wrong.  

This mainly depends on the way of integration ...

> I am meaning integration like making a special OJ plugin for
> logging into our user rights management system, 

this would be GPL in case you aree going to publish it to somebody.

> tailored connector for
> reading data from our databases, 

also only if published .. for your in house use you can do whatever you 
want.

> sharing some Java components, or being
> integrated with commercial reporting system.  

If sharing java components means integrating GPL'd software parts in 
closed software _and_ publishing the result, would lead to a need of 
opening the closed source under GPL.

On integrating it highlky depends on the way of doing so.  Please see
http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#GPLPluginsInNF
and the following questions.

> Our contractors have been
> feeling safe with uDig that is LGPL, as well as with MapServer and
> Geoserver.  That has not prevented us from committing back if we have
> been able to.
>   

Glad to hear. But essentially I understand GPL as a way to keep software 
free, than to force somebody to contribute. eg.
You can do whatever you like with the source and the software, but only 
if you give it to somebody, this somebody has to begranted the same 
rights that you got as you received your copy ;)

> It would actually be nice to have some use cases about how OpenJUMP can
> be legally used together with non-open or in-another-way open software.
>   

If you could be more specific, we could work out those ... regards Ede

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Re: [JPP-Devel] Spatial Query Bug...Not a Bug?

2009-03-09 Thread edgar . soldin

> (1) in fact, I'm not sure if having the same feature in several layers 
> (without clone) is a good or a dangerous idea. I think it could be nice 
> to have a kind of "view" (like in database) to be able to work easily on 
> a small part of a large featurecollection or to apply different styles 
> to a featureCollection without cloning objects...
>   

This might confuse users, but also helps to save memory ... maybe enable 
this as a choice for advanced users?
Of course every change in on layer changes all instances in every other 
layer, but this may be on purpose.

regards ede

> Sunburned Surveyor a écrit :
>   
>> Before I examined the source code for the spatial query bug, I decided
>> to see if I could duplicate the incorrect behavior.
>>
>> I was not able to do this.
>>
>> I successfully executed a spatial query and was able to copy & cut the
>> resulting selection from the source layer, pasting the selected
>> features to a destination layer.
>>
>> Has anyone else been able to duplicate this bug? As far as I can tell,
>> the selections created by the spatial query tool behave like all other
>> JUMP selections.
>>
>> If someone can confirm this isn't a real bug, I will close the bug
>> report. In this case, I will take a look at the other bug that Stefan
>> mentioned.
>>
>> The Sunburned Surveyor
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Sunburned Surveyor
>>  wrote:
>>   
>> 
>>> I meant to say "check with you on the desired behavior of the plug-in"...
>>>
>>> SS
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 1:51 PM, Sunburned Surveyor
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>>   
 Thanks for the help Stefan. I hope to start work on this bug next
 week. I may need to check on the desired behavior of the plug-in again
 after I have looked at the code.

 SS

 On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 12:09 PM, Stefan Steiniger  
 wrote:
   
 
> Hei,
>
> so I just had to check... it is the plugin:
> ui.plugin.analysis.SpatialQueryPlugIn of the original JUMP
>
> the case where the selection is needed is for instance if feature in one
> layer appear also in a second layer and one wants to find those using
> "equal".
> Then the goal would be to delete or modify the features that appear in 
> both
> layers (e.g. "cut selected items" doesn't work) - I attach two datasets.
>
> stefan
>
> Sunburned Surveyor wrote:
> 
>   
>> Here is the link to the bug tracker page for the bug I am talking about:
>>
>>
>> http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=2660272&group_id=118054&atid=679906
>>
>> SS
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Sunburned Surveyor
>>  wrote:
>>   
>> 
>>> I will start work on squishing the bug that has to do with "phantom"
>>> feature selections produced by the spatial query functionality in
>>> OpenJUMP.
>>>
>>> Can anyone tell me if the spatial query functionality is part of the
>>> core program, or part of a plug-in? That will help me track down the
>>> source code so I can get started.
>>>
>>> SS
>>>
>>> 
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Re: [JPP-Devel] some questions...

2009-03-10 Thread edgar . soldin
Hi Peppe,

 I am terribly sorry .. work has bound me so far from porting the 
existing gps extension to openjump ... this is even worse because Arndt 
from Pirol sponsored a gps mouse last year but I had only time to do 
some tests since at least october 2008...

sorry again ..ede
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>
> 1) support for  coordnate system (I think from Deegree)
> 2) support for GPS (from previous Soldin's Jump plugin)
>
> Can I have some informations?
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[JPP-Devel] plugin internationalization

2009-03-31 Thread edgar . soldin
Hi all,

just found some time (laying around lazily) and set up OJ from svn and 
my old extensions
To get warm with it I am gonna update geometry conversion tool. To keep 
it simple for now.

I want to internationalize it and add support for batch (multiple 
geometries selected) conversion. This came up a while ago.

As I am new to internationalization topic I just want to know if there 
is some documentation about how to do it. Implementing, and translating 
the strings later .. the whole process. Or is there a good example in 
the code somewhere?

Thanks a lot .. Ede

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Re: [JPP-Devel] plugin internationalization

2009-04-01 Thread edgar . soldin
Thanks Larry,

I will fetch your new sources ... but I still wonder how to start on 
internationalization?

Anybody, any hints?

regards ede
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>
>   I modified your converter to do batch in SkyJUMP a while ago where 
> it is a standard PlugIn.  You can take a look at the changes I made at:
>
> http://skyjump.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/skyjump/skyjump/de/soldin/gt2jump/geomconv/
>
> Internationalization would be nice.  I think it should be a standard 
> part of OJ too!
>
> regards,
> Larry
>
> On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 10:10 AM,  > wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> just found some time (laying around lazily) and set up OJ from svn and
> my old extensions
> To get warm with it I am gonna update geometry conversion tool. To
> keep
> it simple for now.
>
> I want to internationalize it and add support for batch (multiple
> geometries selected) conversion. This came up a while ago.
>
> As I am new to internationalization topic I just want to know if there
> is some documentation about how to do it. Implementing, and
> translating
> the strings later .. the whole process. Or is there a good example in
> the code somewhere?
>
> Thanks a lot .. Ede
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Re: [JPP-Devel] plugin internationalization

2009-04-01 Thread edgar . soldin
Thanks for the hint ... I will check these. Regarding the placement of 
the Menu Item I definitely agree and will place it there in the 
internationalized version.

regards ede
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> examples.  The Wiki page is:
>
> http://openjump.org/wiki/show/How+to+use+i18n+Internationalization
>
> The only hard part is editing the language/property files.  It helps 
> to use a property editor like https://prbeditor.dev.java.net/ that 
> will edit and spell check multiple languages at the same time.
>
> It would be easier if it was under the OJ source tree.  Then you could 
> just add i18N strings to the existing language files.  It would fit 
> quite nicely under Tools->Edit Geometry->Convert, don't you think?
>
> regards,
> Larry
>
> On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 4:33 AM,  > wrote:
>
> Thanks Larry,
>
> I will fetch your new sources ... but I still wonder how to start on
> internationalization?
>
> Anybody, any hints?
>
> regards ede
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> > Hi Edgar,
> >
> >   I modified your converter to do batch in SkyJUMP a while ago where
> > it is a standard PlugIn.  You can take a look at the changes I
> made at:
> >
> >
> 
> http://skyjump.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/skyjump/skyjump/de/soldin/gt2jump/geomconv/
> >
> > Internationalization would be nice.  I think it should be a standard
> > part of OJ too!
> >
> > regards,
> > Larry
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 10:10 AM,  
> > >> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > just found some time (laying around lazily) and set up OJ
> from svn and
> > my old extensions
> > To get warm with it I am gonna update geometry conversion
> tool. To
> > keep
> > it simple for now.
> >
> > I want to internationalize it and add support for batch
> (multiple
> > geometries selected) conversion. This came up a while ago.
> >
> > As I am new to internationalization topic I just want to
> know if there
> > is some documentation about how to do it. Implementing, and
> > translating
> > the strings later .. the whole process. Or is there a good
> example in
> > the code somewhere?
> >
> > Thanks a lot .. Ede
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Re: [JPP-Devel] plugin internationalization

2009-04-01 Thread Edgar Soldin
Do you mean like a default plugin or do you actually want to put in the
core source tree? I would prefer the plugin choice. Keeps it lightweight.

.. ede
> I agree - should be part of the core,
>
> I once looked into it and to add it to the core - but by programming 
> knowledge was/is to restricted to understand how you automatically 
> generated the conversion and menu items.
>
> stefan
>
> Sunburned Surveyor wrote:
>   
>> Larry and Ede,
>>
>> I would have no problem including the tool in the core. What does Stefan 
>> think?
>>
>> SS
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 6:19 AM, Larry Becker  wrote:
>> 
>>> Adding internationalization is pretty easy.  See any OJ PlugIn for
>>> examples.  The Wiki page is:
>>>
>>> http://openjump.org/wiki/show/How+to+use+i18n+Internationalization
>>>
>>> The only hard part is editing the language/property files.  It helps to use
>>> a property editor like https://prbeditor.dev.java.net/ that will edit and
>>> spell check multiple languages at the same time.
>>>
>>> It would be easier if it was under the OJ source tree.  Then you could just
>>> add i18N strings to the existing language files.  It would fit quite nicely
>>> under Tools->Edit Geometry->Convert, don't you think?
>>>
>>> regards,
>>> Larry
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 4:33 AM,  wrote:
>>>   
 Thanks Larry,

 I will fetch your new sources ... but I still wonder how to start on
 internationalization?

 Anybody, any hints?

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>
>   I modified your converter to do batch in SkyJUMP a while ago where
> it is a standard PlugIn.  You can take a look at the changes I made at:
>
>
> http://skyjump.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/skyjump/skyjump/de/soldin/gt2jump/geomconv/
>
> Internationalization would be nice.  I think it should be a standard
> part of OJ too!
>
> regards,
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>
> On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 10:10 AM,  > wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> just found some time (laying around lazily) and set up OJ from svn
> and
> my old extensions
> To get warm with it I am gonna update geometry conversion tool. To
> keep
> it simple for now.
>
> I want to internationalize it and add support for batch (multiple
> geometries selected) conversion. This came up a while ago.
>
> As I am new to internationalization topic I just want to know if
> there
> is some documentation about how to do it. Implementing, and
> translating
> the strings later .. the whole process. Or is there a good example
> in
> the code somewhere?
>
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Re: [JPP-Devel] plugin internationalization

2009-04-05 Thread Edgar Soldin
Hi All,

I have recent OJ sources and am working on the internationalized
GeomConv Plugin.
Anyway I can't seem to find the 'Tools' Menu Entry .. is it an entry
generated by Plugins?
Which plugin does use it populating entries under 'Edit Geometries'?
I am just concerned about the ordering of the menuitems.

thanks ede

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> Adding internationalization is pretty easy.  See any OJ PlugIn for
> examples.  The Wiki page is:
>
> http://openjump.org/wiki/show/How+to+use+i18n+Internationalization
>
> The only hard part is editing the language/property files.  It helps to use
> a property editor like https://prbeditor.dev.java.net/ that will edit and
> spell check multiple languages at the same time.
>
> It would be easier if it was under the OJ source tree.  Then you could just
> add i18N strings to the existing language files.  It would fit quite nicely
> under Tools->Edit Geometry->Convert, don't you think?
>
> regards,
> Larry
>
> On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 4:33 AM,  wrote:
>
>   
>> Thanks Larry,
>>
>> I will fetch your new sources ... but I still wonder how to start on
>> internationalization?
>>
>> Anybody, any hints?
>>
>> regards ede
>> --
>>
>> 
>>> Hi Edgar,
>>>
>>>   I modified your converter to do batch in SkyJUMP a while ago where
>>> it is a standard PlugIn.  You can take a look at the changes I made at:
>>>
>>>
>>>   
>> http://skyjump.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/skyjump/skyjump/de/soldin/gt2jump/geomconv/
>> 
>>> Internationalization would be nice.  I think it should be a standard
>>> part of OJ too!
>>>
>>> regards,
>>> Larry
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 10:10 AM, >> > wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> just found some time (laying around lazily) and set up OJ from svn
>>>   
>> and
>> 
>>> my old extensions
>>> To get warm with it I am gonna update geometry conversion tool. To
>>> keep
>>> it simple for now.
>>>
>>> I want to internationalize it and add support for batch (multiple
>>> geometries selected) conversion. This came up a while ago.
>>>
>>> As I am new to internationalization topic I just want to know if
>>>   
>> there
>> 
>>> is some documentation about how to do it. Implementing, and
>>> translating
>>> the strings later .. the whole process. Or is there a good example in
>>> the code somewhere?
>>>
>>> Thanks a lot .. Ede
>>>
>>>
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[JPP-Devel] geomconv undoability

2009-04-05 Thread Edgar Soldin
Hey Larry,

it seems that currently only the last conversion is undoable. Would you
please doublecheck in skyjump and tell me your observation?

Also. Do you think it would make sense to add a second, not undoable
conversion menu item, for the case of converting lots of geometries and
does deliberately decide not to litter the RAM?

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Re: [JPP-Devel] plugin internationalization

2009-04-05 Thread Edgar Soldin
Stefan Steiniger wrote:
> The tools menu should be generated by the new default-plugins.xml file
>
> to get the international version we use the string retrieved from
> MenuNames.TOOLS
>
> The first plugin that adds an entry to Edit Geometries should be:
> org.openjump.core.ui.plugin.tools.geometrychange.ExtractPointsPlugIn
>
> according to default.xml file.

ahhh .. just set it up in eclipse but didnt add the default-plugins file
to the run configuration .. makes sense this way

>
> but this hold only for OpenJUMP. I am not sure if you could use the
> MenuNames class for skyjump (i.e. you would need to use the i18n check
> - since SkyJUMP is not internationalized)

the plugin is meant to be integrated in openjump when internationalized.
Under Tools/Edit Geometries. So no SkyJump limitations apply and I'll
try to work according to the docs on the wiki or as I can learn from the
other default plugins then.


thanks ... ede

>
> stefan
>
> PS: the current default-plugins.xml file is attached
>
> Edgar Soldin schrieb:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I have recent OJ sources and am working on the internationalized
>> GeomConv Plugin.
>> Anyway I can't seem to find the 'Tools' Menu Entry .. is it an entry
>> generated by Plugins?
>> Which plugin does use it populating entries under 'Edit Geometries'?
>> I am just concerned about the ordering of the menuitems.
>>
>> thanks ede
>>
>> -- 
>>> Adding internationalization is pretty easy.  See any OJ PlugIn for
>>> examples.  The Wiki page is:
>>>
>>> http://openjump.org/wiki/show/How+to+use+i18n+Internationalization
>>>
>>> The only hard part is editing the language/property files.  It helps
>>> to use
>>> a property editor like https://prbeditor.dev.java.net/ that will
>>> edit and
>>> spell check multiple languages at the same time.
>>>
>>> It would be easier if it was under the OJ source tree.  Then you
>>> could just
>>> add i18N strings to the existing language files.  It would fit quite
>>> nicely
>>> under Tools->Edit Geometry->Convert, don't you think?
>>>
>>> regards,
>>> Larry
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 4:33 AM,  wrote:
>>>
>>>  
>>>> Thanks Larry,
>>>>
>>>> I will fetch your new sources ... but I still wonder how to start on
>>>> internationalization?
>>>>
>>>> Anybody, any hints?
>>>>
>>>> regards ede
>>>> -- 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Edgar,
>>>>>
>>>>>   I modified your converter to do batch in SkyJUMP a while ago where
>>>>> it is a standard PlugIn.  You can take a look at the changes I
>>>>> made at:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>   
>>>> http://skyjump.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/skyjump/skyjump/de/soldin/gt2jump/geomconv/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Internationalization would be nice.  I think it should be a standard
>>>>> part of OJ too!
>>>>>
>>>>> regards,
>>>>> Larry
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 10:10 AM, >>>> <mailto:edgar.sol...@web.de>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> just found some time (laying around lazily) and set up OJ from
>>>>> svn
>>>>>   
>>>> and
>>>>
>>>>> my old extensions
>>>>> To get warm with it I am gonna update geometry conversion
>>>>> tool. To
>>>>> keep
>>>>> it simple for now.
>>>>>
>>>>> I want to internationalize it and add support for batch (multiple
>>>>> geometries selected) conversion. This came up a while ago.
>>>>>
>>>>> As I am new to internationalization topic I just want to know if
>>>>>   
>>>> there
>>>>
>>>>> is some documentation about how to do it. Implementing, and
>>>>> translating
>>>>> the strings later .. the whole process. Or is there a good
>>>>> example in
>>>>> the code somewhere?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks a lot .. Ede
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>   
>>>> -

Re: [JPP-Devel] plugin internationalization

2009-04-05 Thread Edgar Soldin
in this case you should be able to reuse the updated plugin unchanged...

what do you think about the undoable choice option? On a quick test the
default heap filled up quite quick by converting a bunch of geometries.
Also the whole operation stpped in the middle because of that.

.. ede

> Hi,
>
>   SkyJUMP also has MenuNames for compatibility with OJ.  I also recently
> added I18N strictly so that I could get the latest Simple Query code.  OJ
> should come first, but I'll definitely be updating the Geometry conversion
> in SkyJUMP.
>
> Larry
>
> On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 4:01 PM, Edgar Soldin  wrote:
>
>   
>> Stefan Steiniger wrote:
>> 
>>> The tools menu should be generated by the new default-plugins.xml file
>>>
>>> to get the international version we use the string retrieved from
>>> MenuNames.TOOLS
>>>
>>> The first plugin that adds an entry to Edit Geometries should be:
>>>
>>>   
>> org.openjump.core.ui.plugin.tools.geometrychange.ExtractPointsPlugIn
>> 
>>> according to default.xml file.
>>>   
>> ahhh .. just set it up in eclipse but didnt add the default-plugins file
>> to the run configuration .. makes sense this way
>>
>> 
>>> but this hold only for OpenJUMP. I am not sure if you could use the
>>> MenuNames class for skyjump (i.e. you would need to use the i18n check
>>> - since SkyJUMP is not internationalized)
>>>   
>> the plugin is meant to be integrated in openjump when internationalized.
>> Under Tools/Edit Geometries. So no SkyJump limitations apply and I'll
>> try to work according to the docs on the wiki or as I can learn from the
>> other default plugins then.
>>
>>
>> thanks ... ede
>>
>> 
>>> stefan
>>>
>>> PS: the current default-plugins.xml file is attached
>>>
>>> Edgar Soldin schrieb:
>>>   
>>>> Hi All,
>>>>
>>>> I have recent OJ sources and am working on the internationalized
>>>> GeomConv Plugin.
>>>> Anyway I can't seem to find the 'Tools' Menu Entry .. is it an entry
>>>> generated by Plugins?
>>>> Which plugin does use it populating entries under 'Edit Geometries'?
>>>> I am just concerned about the ordering of the menuitems.
>>>>
>>>> thanks ede
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> 
>>>>> Adding internationalization is pretty easy.  See any OJ PlugIn for
>>>>> examples.  The Wiki page is:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://openjump.org/wiki/show/How+to+use+i18n+Internationalization
>>>>>
>>>>> The only hard part is editing the language/property files.  It helps
>>>>> to use
>>>>> a property editor like https://prbeditor.dev.java.net/ that will
>>>>> edit and
>>>>> spell check multiple languages at the same time.
>>>>>
>>>>> It would be easier if it was under the OJ source tree.  Then you
>>>>> could just
>>>>> add i18N strings to the existing language files.  It would fit quite
>>>>> nicely
>>>>> under Tools->Edit Geometry->Convert, don't you think?
>>>>>
>>>>> regards,
>>>>> Larry
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 4:33 AM,  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>   
>>>>>> Thanks Larry,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I will fetch your new sources ... but I still wonder how to start on
>>>>>> internationalization?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anybody, any hints?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> regards ede
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi Edgar,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   I modified your converter to do batch in SkyJUMP a while ago where
>>>>>>> it is a standard PlugIn.  You can take a look at the changes I
>>>>>>> made at:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   
>> http://skyjump.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/skyjump/skyjump/de/soldin/gt2jump/geomconv/
>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Internationalization would be nice.  I think it should be a standard
>>>>>>> part of OJ 

Re: [JPP-Devel] Super Stoked About GPX Support

2009-05-05 Thread Edgar Soldin
SS,

will do my very best .. ede
>
> P.S. - The next item for OpenJUMP GPS support: Creating GPX files
> directly from a GPS receiver. Edgar will hopefully be able to offer me
> some advice on this. :]
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Re: [JPP-Devel] Super Stoked About GPX Support

2009-05-06 Thread edgar . soldin
[1] this is taken care of in recent versions of gpsylon .. the necessary 
rxtx serial libraries (osx,windows,linux) are delivered with the binary 
release and used automagically. I tried this on XP and it worked good.

[2] gpsylon parses GARMIN and NMEA. You get infos on available 
satellites and current position and such. I don't know how routes are 
supported.

Hope this helps ..ede


> Ede,
>
> I guess the tricky part of reading waypoints and tracks directly from
> a GPS receiver is two-fold:
>
> [1] You have to use communication ports on the computer to talk to the
> receiver. This seems to be a very operating specific task, which can
> be a problem for cross-platform Java programs. It seems like most of
> the open source solutions to this problem use a low-level native code
> library to access the communication ports and then to pass data to a
> Java program.
>
> [2] You have to parse the Garmin communication protocol. I think the
> GPSylon Library may already provide this functionality.
>
> Landon
>
>
> On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 4:09 AM, Edgar Soldin  wrote:
>   
>> SS,
>>
>> will do my very best .. ede
>> 
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Re: [JPP-Devel] Shapefile reader

2009-05-11 Thread Edgar Soldin
if the current geotools (just checked they are 2.5.5 stable now)
shapefile reader/writer is more advanced why not aiming on using it .. i
once wrote a geotools reader/writer extension, that should be possible
these days as well ... only problem was that I had to convert the data
structure because it was different those days, so I ended up loading the
file and converting the whole collection, which of course wasted memory
and computing power.
but hey, it worked.

generally jump should target on using more geotools power (did i mention
that before? :)).

...ede
>  
> Michaël Michaud wrote:
>   
>> Hi,
>>
>> As I tried to fix a bug in PolygonHandler (see end of e-mail), I noticed 
>> some other strange pieces of code in this class.
>>
>>   
>> 
> The ShapefileReader code is really horrific, IMHO.  We grabbed it from 
> an early release of GeoTools, and never upgraded it since it (more or 
> less) worked.  At this point it's probably best not to upgrade, since it 
> has been enhanced (eg adding date support) and pretty well tested.  But 
> no doubt there's lots of improvements that could be made.
>
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Re: [JPP-Devel] OpenJump plugins and License issues

2009-06-26 Thread Edgar Soldin
Julien Perret wrote:
> 2009/6/26 Sunburned Surveyor 
> 
>> Julien wrote: "The issue is that GeOxgene licenses is LGPL and
>> OpenJump's is GPL, so I guess we have to release the library under
>> GPL, right?"
>>
>> I don't believe this is the case. GPL programs can used LGPL
>> libraries. The LGPL was designed this way on purpose. In fact, I think
>> that JTS, OJ's geometry library is released under the LGPL.
>>
>> See this link for more info:
>>
>> "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/License_compatibility";
> 
> 
> I might have not explained it clearly: this small library uses both
> GeOxygene code and OpenJump code.
> Using OpenJump code automatically makes this code GPL, no?
> God, these license issues are tiresome :)
> 
> 
yes the more restrictive license applies .. gpl in this case 

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Re: [JPP-Devel] problem with downloads on sourceforge

2009-08-03 Thread edgar . soldin
you can assign platforms to the files in the new sourceforge FRS. Maybe 
it is assigned to linux only?

... ede

> Hello Stefan,
>
> Stefan Steiniger, [20090802 - 13:40:52]
>
>> Hei,
>>
>> I just recognized that they did a couple of changes on sourceforge.
>> Unfortunately I can't see anymore the openjump-1.3.zip file on
>> windows - despite the fact that I just uploaded it again.
>> It could be that it is related to the fact that i am using windows.
>> Can somebody with a Linux system check if that file is to see?
>
> I do see that file from linux.
>
> Best
>
>   Stephan
>
>
>
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Re: [JPP-Devel] problem with downloads on sourceforge

2009-08-03 Thread edgar . soldin
also I see it in the all files listing with firefox 3.5 on wiindows. 
Still it seems not to be tagged for windows.

.. ede

> Hello Stefan,
>
> Stefan Steiniger, [20090802 - 13:40:52]
>
>> Hei,
>>
>> I just recognized that they did a couple of changes on sourceforge.
>> Unfortunately I can't see anymore the openjump-1.3.zip file on
>> windows - despite the fact that I just uploaded it again.
>> It could be that it is related to the fact that i am using windows.
>> Can somebody with a Linux system check if that file is to see?
>
> I do see that file from linux.
>
> Best
>
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>
>
>
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Re: [JPP-Devel] problem with downloads on sourceforge

2009-08-03 Thread edgar . soldin
On 03.08.2009 19:50, Stefan Steiniger wrote:
> ok.. thanx for looking into it.
> I just checked it again and the new file is there - wonder what happend
> with the old one (and all the nice downloadcount, but the general stats
> seems to be broken too).
>

did work in between, but doesn't now, again  they seem to be working 
on it (since a week or so). I wonder when sf get's reliable again.

> the tagging is thought for setting as standard file to download on the
> main project page - if I read correctly.
>

you're absolutely right. Was just suggesting to try this, could've 
helped .. regards ede

> cheers
> stefan
>
> edgar.sol...@web.de schrieb:
>
>> also I see it in the all files listing with firefox 3.5 on wiindows.
>> Still it seems not to be tagged for windows.
>>
>> .. ede
>>
>>  
>>> Hello Stefan,
>>>
>>> Stefan Steiniger, [20090802 - 13:40:52]
>>>
>>>
 Hei,

 I just recognized that they did a couple of changes on sourceforge.
 Unfortunately I can't see anymore the openjump-1.3.zip file on
 windows - despite the fact that I just uploaded it again.
 It could be that it is related to the fact that i am using windows.
 Can somebody with a Linux system check if that file is to see?
  
>>> I do see that file from linux.
>>>
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>>>
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[JPP-Devel] regarding sf statistics

2009-08-07 Thread edgar . soldin
just found this ..
http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/sourceforge/ticket/3578

... ede

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Re: [JPP-Devel] Virus/Spyware 'Troj/Agent-KRQ' in OpenJump 1.3 zip file

2009-09-07 Thread edgar . soldin
What does virustotal.com has to say about it? .. Probably a mismatch 
because of the executing external code routine.

.. ede


On 07.09.2009 16:12, Rahkonen Jukka wrote:
> Hi,
>
> My OJ.exe has been on my disk for several months but just a few weeks ago 
> eTrust Antivirus gave the first virus alarm. F-Secure Client Security is not 
> worried at all. I do not know if it is a false alarm or not.
>
> -Jukka Rahkonen-
>
>> -Alkuperäinen viesti-
>> Lähettäjä: Malte Weller [mailto:wel...@umwelt.uni-hannover.de]
>> Lähetetty: 7. syyskuuta 2009 15:18
>> Vastaanottaja: OpenJump develop and use
>> Aihe: [JPP-Devel] Virus/Spyware 'Troj/Agent-KRQ' in OpenJump
>> 1.3 zip file
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I just downloaded version 1.3 (zip and source files) from
>> SourceForge and my Sophos antivirus software informed me
>> about a trojan
>> (Troj/Agent-KRQ) in the OJ.exe (openjump-1.3\bin\OJ.exe).
>>
>> Can someone else confirm this?
>>
>> Greetings from Hanover.
>> Malte
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [JPP-Devel] Virus/Spyware 'Troj/Agent-KRQ' in OpenJump 1.3 zip file

2009-09-13 Thread edgar . soldin
Downloaded the recent version of the converter and redid peppe's steps...
interestingly the result still has some hits, obviously the way of 
executing a batch file during run time is something some malware does 
similarly.
Also the resulting exe file is UPX packed, which is often regarded as 
suspicious, because viruses often try to cloak themselves by that.
http://is.gd/3dvL6

and a more frightening result from the online conversion also offered on 
the site
http://is.gd/3dxKU

As I don't know anything about the author of the tool, it is 
unfortunately not trustworthy and even if these are just false alarms 
(seems probable, because of the differing results, especially in case 
one above) I don't think the project should take the risk of delivering 
viruses.
This leaves to suggest - the binary should be removed from the 
distribution.

I additionally searched for a replacement and found
http://www.abyssmedia.com/quickbfc/
which seems to come without UPX compression and only 3 hits on 
virustotal, from which 2 are heuristical. This could be candidate for a 
replacement.
http://is.gd/3dzL6

.. regards ede


On 13.09.2009 07:28, Giuseppe Aruta wrote:
> Hi all,
> I am still out for work so I cannot take time for Oenjump.
> oj.exe: I create a script with only one line "openjump.bat", save as oj.bat, 
> and transform nto oj.ee using "bat to exe converter" by f2ko 
> "http://www.f2ko.de/English/index.php";.
>
> Peppe
>
> --- Mar 8/9/09, Michaël Michaud  ha scritto:
>
>
>> Da: Michaël Michaud
>> Oggetto: Re: [JPP-Devel] Virus/Spyware 'Troj/Agent-KRQ' in OpenJump 1.3 zip 
>> file
>> A: "OpenJump develop and use"
>> Data: Martedì 8 settembre 2009, 23:33
>> Hi Stefan, Peppe,
>>
>> I also get a message from my antivirus because of OJ.exe:
>> My antivirus (antivir) says it is : TR/Crypt.ULPM.Gen -
>> Trojan
>>
>> I don't worry much about it, but let's see with Peppe how
>> the OJ.exe has
>> been made and if the alert can be removed by creating a new
>> exe.
>>
>> Michaël
>>
>> Stefan Steiniger a écrit :
>>  
>>> mhm..
>>> http://www.virustotal.com/analisis/ef8f87e0ebaa203a51f98e1d1e6b68af68ca2ac1b2513181ede852268cceebd0-1252436424
>>>
>>> not sure what this means.
>>> Actually somebody uploaded it before I did already
>>>
>>> stefan
>>>
>>> edgar.sol...@web.de
>>>
>> wrote:
>>  
>>>
>>>
 What does virustotal.com has to say about it? ..
  
>> Probably a mismatch
>>  
 because of the executing external code routine.

 .. ede


 On 07.09.2009 16:12, Rahkonen Jukka wrote:

  
> Hi,
>
> My OJ.exe has been on my disk for several
>
>> months but just a few weeks ago eTrust Antivirus gave the
>> first virus alarm. F-Secure Client Security is not worried
>> at all. I do not know if it is a false alarm or not.
>>  
> -Jukka Rahkonen-
>
>
>
>> -Alkuperäinen viesti-
>> Lähettäjä: Malte Weller [mailto:wel...@umwelt.uni-hannover.de]
>> Lähetetty: 7. syyskuuta 2009 15:18
>> Vastaanottaja: OpenJump develop and use
>> Aihe: [JPP-Devel] Virus/Spyware
>>  
>> 'Troj/Agent-KRQ' in OpenJump
>>  
>> 1.3 zip file
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I just downloaded version 1.3 (zip and
>>  
>> source files) from
>>  
>> SourceForge and my Sophos antivirus
>>  
>> software informed me
>>  
>> about a trojan
>> (Troj/Agent-KRQ) in the OJ.exe
>>  
>> (openjump-1.3\bin\OJ.exe).
>>  
>> Can someone else confirm this?
>>
>> Greetings from Hanover.
>> Malte
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  
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Re: [JPP-Devel] Virus/Spyware 'Troj/Agent-KRQ' in OpenJump 1.3 zip file

2009-09-14 Thread edgar . soldin
well,

it is a tradeoff,

pro is the execution of the batch file which allows to change the 
runtime environment startup variables (even after the startup exe is 
already created)
con is the probable false detection because a windows binary tries to 
start a batch file ...

What is really needed is a configurable launcher. Recent java runtime 
environments setup windows and others to execute jars if a correct 
manifest file is included. Maybe we should stop using platform specific 
workarounds to build classpaths and add memory variables and implement 
this in a pure java launcher?

... ede


On 14.09.2009 17:07, Sunburned Surveyor wrote:
> This really stinks.
>
> Has anyone tried a program like JSmooth?
>
> http://jsmooth.sourceforge.net/
>
> Or Janel?
>
> http://www.redskaper.com/Janel.jsp
>
> I know just enough C programming to be really dangerous. In the worst
> case scenario I could try whipping up a native launcher for OJ. I'd
> probably try it first on Linux, and then on MS Windows.
>
> The Sunburned Surveyor
>
> On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 11:48 AM, Giuseppe Aruta
>   wrote:
>> For me it is OK to replace or to eliminate the OJ.exe file
>>
>> Peppe
>>
>> --- Dom 13/9/09, edgar.sol...@web.de  ha scritto:
>>
>>> Da: edgar.sol...@web.de
>>> Oggetto: Re: [JPP-Devel] Virus/Spyware 'Troj/Agent-KRQ' in OpenJump 1.3 zip 
>>> file
>>> A: "OpenJump develop and use"
>>> Data: Domenica 13 settembre 2009, 13:31
>>> Downloaded the recent version of the
>>> converter and redid peppe's steps...
>>> interestingly the result still has some hits, obviously the
>>> way of
>>> executing a batch file during run time is something some
>>> malware does
>>> similarly.
>>> Also the resulting exe file is UPX packed, which is often
>>> regarded as
>>> suspicious, because viruses often try to cloak themselves
>>> by that.
>>> http://is.gd/3dvL6
>>>
>>> and a more frightening result from the online conversion
>>> also offered on
>>> the site
>>> http://is.gd/3dxKU
>>>
>>> As I don't know anything about the author of the tool, it
>>> is
>>> unfortunately not trustworthy and even if these are just
>>> false alarms
>>> (seems probable, because of the differing results,
>>> especially in case
>>> one above) I don't think the project should take the risk
>>> of delivering
>>> viruses.
>>> This leaves to suggest - the binary should be removed from
>>> the
>>> distribution.
>>>
>>> I additionally searched for a replacement and found
>>> http://www.abyssmedia.com/quickbfc/
>>> which seems to come without UPX compression and only 3 hits
>>> on
>>> virustotal, from which 2 are heuristical. This could be
>>> candidate for a
>>> replacement.
>>> http://is.gd/3dzL6
>>>
>>> .. regards ede
>>>
>>>
>>> On 13.09.2009 07:28, Giuseppe Aruta wrote:
 Hi all,
 I am still out for work so I cannot take time for
>>> Oenjump.
 oj.exe: I create a script with only one line
>>> "openjump.bat", save as oj.bat, and transform nto oj.ee
>>> using "bat to exe converter" by f2ko "http://www.f2ko.de/English/index.php";.

 Peppe

 --- Mar 8/9/09, Michaël Michaud
>>> ha scritto:


> Da: Michaël Michaud
> Oggetto: Re: [JPP-Devel] Virus/Spyware
>>> 'Troj/Agent-KRQ' in OpenJump 1.3 zip file
> A: "OpenJump develop and use"
> Data: Martedì 8 settembre 2009, 23:33
> Hi Stefan, Peppe,
>
> I also get a message from my antivirus because of
>>> OJ.exe:
> My antivirus (antivir) says it is :
>>> TR/Crypt.ULPM.Gen -
> Trojan
>
> I don't worry much about it, but let's see with
>>> Peppe how
> the OJ.exe has
> been made and if the alert can be removed by
>>> creating a new
> exe.
>
> Michaël
>
> Stefan Steiniger a écrit :
>
>> mhm..
>> http://www.virustotal.com/analisis/ef8f87e0ebaa203a51f98e1d1e6b68af68ca2ac1b2513181ede852268cceebd0-1252436424
>>
>> not sure what this means.
>> Actually somebody uploaded it before I did
>>> already
>>
>> stefan
>>
>> edgar.sol...@web.de
>>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>> What does virustotal.com has to say about
>>> it? ..
>>>
> Probably a mismatch
>
>>> because of the executing external code
>>> routine.
>>>
>>> .. ede
>>>
>>>
>>> On 07.09.2009 16:12, Rahkonen Jukka
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
 Hi,

 My OJ.exe has been on my disk for
>>> several

>>>
> months but just a few weeks ago eTrust Antivirus
>>> gave the
> first virus alarm. F-Secure Client Security is not
>>> worried
> at all. I do not know if it is a false alarm or
>>> not.
>
 -Jukka Rahkonen-



>>>
> -Alkuperäinen viesti-
> Lähettäjä: Malte Weller
>>> [mailto:wel...@umwelt.uni-hannover.de]
> Lähetetty: 7. syyskuuta 2009
>>> 15:18
> Vastaanottaja: OpenJump develop
>>> and use
> Aihe: [JPP-Devel] Virus/Spyware
>
>>>
> 'Troj/Agent-KRQ' in OpenJump
>
>>

Re: [JPP-Devel] Virus/Spyware 'Troj/Agent-KRQ' in OpenJump 1.3 zip file

2009-09-16 Thread edgar . soldin
beside the lobbying for their AOT compiler a very decent overview. 
Thanks a lot!
How does SkyJump change JRE parameters or such currently modified in the 
batch file?

... ede


On 15.09.2009 23:28, Larry Becker wrote:
> Here is an article that thoroughly explains the choices:
>
> http://www.excelsior-usa.com/articles/java-to-exe.html
>
> I think the best option for OJ is to go back to installing a desktop
> shortcut that runs the .bat file.  I can't see what advantages the .exe has
> in OJ.  SkyJUMP's exe gives it drag and drop and double-click for shape
> files and project files.
>
> Larry
>
> On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Sunburned Surveyor<
> sunburned.surve...@gmail.com>  wrote:
>
>> Javadoc for the Process class:
>>
>> http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/docs/api/java/lang/Process.html
>>
>> Javadoc for the Runtime class:
>>
>> http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/docs/api/java/lang/Runtime.html
>>
>> SS
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 8:41 AM, Sunburned Surveyor
>>   wrote:
>>> This has been a good discussion. I think there are only (at this
>>> point) two reasonable solutions:
>>>
>>> (1) Keep using the batch file.
>>> (2) Code a custom executable "launcher" for OpenJUMP in the C
>>> programming language. This launcher would read a configuration file
>>> and launch OJ in the JVM. We'd have to compile the C code for each
>>> operating system, but we've got to maintain separate launch scripts
>>> right now anyways.
>>>
>>> Here is another "theoretical solution":
>>>
>>> Write a launcher in Java that parses the configuration file and then
>>> uses the Runtime object to execute OpenJUMP with the specified
>>> parameters.
>>>
>>> This approach would be easier for me to code than a launcher in C, but
>>> I don't know if it would work. (I think it would.) The downside is
>>> that it would require that two (2) JVM's be running for OpenJUMP (one
>>> for the launcher and one for the actual program) unless I find a way
>>> to shutdown the launcher. Maybe this isn't  a problem, since OJ may
>>> continue running after the launcher's main method terminates. Here is
>>> what the Javadoc for the Process class says:
>>>
>>> "The subprocess is not killed when there are no more references to the
>>> Process object, but rather the subprocess continues executing
>>> asynchronously."
>>>
>>> Has anyone fooled with this way of launching Java programs before?
>>>
>>> I can try coding a Java launcher. It would probably take me a couple
>>> days (after work or on lunch breaks). A launcher in C will take me a
>>> week or two.
>>>
>>> The Sunburned Surveyor
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 11:11 PM, Rahkonen Jukka
>>>   wrote:
 Hi,

 For a user like me who must always edit openjump.bat file manually at
>> least for adding proxy settings OJ.exe does not give much extra. It would be
>> nice if program launcher had some kind of configuration assistant for
>> setting proxy and Java settings and perhaps logging level as well.

 -Jukka Rahkonen-

> -Alkuperäinen viesti-
> Lähettäjä: Stefan Steiniger [mailto:sst...@geo.uzh.ch]
> Lähetetty: 15. syyskuuta 2009 8:40
> Vastaanottaja: OpenJump develop and use
> Aihe: Re: [JPP-Devel] Virus/Spyware 'Troj/Agent-KRQ' in
> OpenJump 1.3 zip file
>
> thanks for the analysis Ede and the comments (Larry et al).
> Not sure what we are going to do - as I think the risk of a
> virus is probably small. The question is how to check that
> properly (with minimal effort ;) A network sniffer?
>
> btw. for the earlier versions of OJ.exe we used jsmooth
> already. But, as others pointed out: Then we can not use the
> *.bat file for configuration, which is really nice right now.
> Setting up a proper ini system is something above my skills
> by now... unfortunately
>
> my 2 cents (although a bit biased, avoiding to make a new
> release ;) stefan
>
> Larry Becker schrieb:
>> I believe the Manifest currently being generated includes
> all of the
>> lib entries.  You can run the jar directly, but there is still the
>> issue of the "-properties" and "-plug-in-directory" command line
>> parameters, not to mention the "-Xms512M", etc. Java OPTS.
>>
>> I can build an executable "batch file runner" using AutoIt,
> but some
>> virus programs will flag it too for the same reasons
> already mentioned.
>> On the other hand, SkyJUMP uses a modified version of the Eclipse
>> runner app, which is (theoretically) cross platform.
> However the ini
>> file it uses gives far less control over options than some
> users would
>> like.  It would seem that there is no perfect, or even good
> solution
>> for launching Java apps.
>>
>> regards,
>> Larry
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 11:02 AM,> >  wrote:
>>
>>  well,
>>
>>  it is a tradeoff,
>>
>>  pro is the executi

Re: [JPP-Devel] Virus/Spyware 'Troj/Agent-KRQ' in OpenJump 1.3 zip file

2009-09-16 Thread edgar . soldin
On 16.09.2009 17:57, Larry Becker wrote:
> The launcher is the one from Eclipse.  All I had to do was understand it
> enough to put my own hooks in.

well done ...

> Of course, it could be modified to meet the needs of OJ, but IMHO it is
> overkill for that task.

I agree .. and all differences must be modified and compiled for every 
platform.

Maybe it is possible to replace the platform shell scripts by a java 
application that is compiled by gcj to platform specific loaders? But 
still, probably larry is right and the shell scripts do the trick already.
Is starting really a issue with newcomers? I don't think so.

regards ede


> regards,
> Larry
>
> On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 9:52 AM, Sunburned Surveyor<
> sunburned.surve...@gmail.com>  wrote:
>
>> That is an impressive bit of Windows API programming. It scares the
>> crap out of this little hobby Java programmer.
>>
>> Nice job Larry. Don't know that I will be duplicating that anytime soon. :]
>>
>> I wish there was a book that explained how to better integrate Java
>> applications into MS Windows and Linux desktop environments with C
>> code. That is a book I would pay to have on my bookshelf.
>>
>> Landon
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 6:02 AM, Larry Becker
>> wrote:
>>> See: startJavaVM in:
>>>
>> http://skyjump.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/skyjump/skyjump/launcher/library/win32/eclipseWin.c?view=markup
>>>
>>> regards,
>>> Larry
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 4:35 AM,  wrote:

 beside the lobbying for their AOT compiler a very decent overview.
 Thanks a lot!
 How does SkyJump change JRE parameters or such currently modified in the
 batch file?

 ... ede


 On 15.09.2009 23:28, Larry Becker wrote:
> Here is an article that thoroughly explains the choices:
>
> http://www.excelsior-usa.com/articles/java-to-exe.html
>
> I think the best option for OJ is to go back to installing a desktop
> shortcut that runs the .bat file.  I can't see what advantages the
>> .exe
> has
> in OJ.  SkyJUMP's exe gives it drag and drop and double-click for
>> shape
> files and project files.
>
> Larry
>
> On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Sunburned Surveyor<
> sunburned.surve...@gmail.com>   wrote:
>
>> Javadoc for the Process class:
>>
>> http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/docs/api/java/lang/Process.html
>>
>> Javadoc for the Runtime class:
>>
>> http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/docs/api/java/lang/Runtime.html
>>
>> SS
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 8:41 AM, Sunburned Surveyor
>>wrote:
>>> This has been a good discussion. I think there are only (at this
>>> point) two reasonable solutions:
>>>
>>> (1) Keep using the batch file.
>>> (2) Code a custom executable "launcher" for OpenJUMP in the C
>>> programming language. This launcher would read a configuration file
>>> and launch OJ in the JVM. We'd have to compile the C code for each
>>> operating system, but we've got to maintain separate launch scripts
>>> right now anyways.
>>>
>>> Here is another "theoretical solution":
>>>
>>> Write a launcher in Java that parses the configuration file and then
>>> uses the Runtime object to execute OpenJUMP with the specified
>>> parameters.
>>>
>>> This approach would be easier for me to code than a launcher in C,
>> but
>>> I don't know if it would work. (I think it would.) The downside is
>>> that it would require that two (2) JVM's be running for OpenJUMP
>> (one
>>> for the launcher and one for the actual program) unless I find a way
>>> to shutdown the launcher. Maybe this isn't  a problem, since OJ may
>>> continue running after the launcher's main method terminates. Here
>> is
>>> what the Javadoc for the Process class says:
>>>
>>> "The subprocess is not killed when there are no more references to
>> the
>>> Process object, but rather the subprocess continues executing
>>> asynchronously."
>>>
>>> Has anyone fooled with this way of launching Java programs before?
>>>
>>> I can try coding a Java launcher. It would probably take me a couple
>>> days (after work or on lunch breaks). A launcher in C will take me a
>>> week or two.
>>>
>>> The Sunburned Surveyor
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 11:11 PM, Rahkonen Jukka
>>>wrote:
 Hi,

 For a user like me who must always edit openjump.bat file manually
>> at
>> least for adding proxy settings OJ.exe does not give much extra. It
>> would be
>> nice if program launcher had some kind of configuration assistant for
>> setting proxy and Java settings and perhaps logging level as well.

 -Jukka Rahkonen-

> -Alkuperäinen viesti-
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> Lähetetty: 15. syyskuuta 2009 8:40
> Vastaanottaja: Open

Re: [JPP-Devel] Death of our wiki.

2009-09-17 Thread edgar . soldin

it is there, i have activated on a project of mine.. but haven't used it yet
You have to dig a bit, it is under 'project admin'->'features' .. they 
also have wordpress


.. ede


I got a message from sourceforge that project wikis should migrate to TRAC
or MediaWiki, but I haven't seen any support for MediaWiki on SF yet.  Of
course, I can't find anything else either after their 'redesign'. :-(

Larry

On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 9:52 AM, Sunburned Surveyor<
sunburned.surve...@gmail.com>  wrote:

   

Thanks for grabbing that back-up Jon! We really appreciate it.

Stefan,

What do you think about putting this zip up on the SourceForge site for
now?

Any suggestions on what we do for a new wiki? Pedro has space, but I
don't know how he would feel about hosting our wiki software.
I might be able to cough up some money for wiki hosting, if we needed
it. Wikidot appears pretty reasonable. $25 for a year for a pro
account. I think I can handle that.

Let me know what you guys think.

SS

On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 7:12 AM, Stefan Steiniger
wrote:
 

thanks.. great!

so we haven't lost anything then
stefan

Jonathan Aquino schrieb:
   

OK I managed to keep it up long enough to export the pages in Textile
format:
http://jonathanaquino.com/wiki-textile-2009-09-15-17-59-49.zip

Jon


 

-Original Message-
From: Stefan Steiniger [mailto:sst...@geo.uzh.ch]
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 10:15 PM
To: OpenJump develop and use; Jonathan Aquino
Subject: Re: [JPP-Devel] Death of our wiki.

Hei Jon,

thanks for trying... seems like we really need to figure now
a new way.
but if it is up for some minutes again, we can get/export a
textile copy

stefan

Jonathan Aquino schrieb:
   

I can make it come back up for short periods of time(like
 

now), but it
   

isn't long before it goes down again, alas.

Jon


 

-Original Message-
From: Joe Desbonnet [mailto:j...@galway.net]
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 4:01 PM
To: OpenJump develop and use
Subject: Re: [JPP-Devel] Death of our wiki.

If it's of any use I've got a backup snapshot from last year.
None since I'm afraid.

openjump-wiki.20081011.zip ~ 1GB.

Joe.



On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 11:44 PM, Jonathan Aquino
  wrote:
   

Sorry about this guys - this instiki wiki keeps going down.
 

I'm trying
   

to restart it but it doesn't seem to be coming up.

I'll keep trying.

Jon


 

-Original Message-
From: Sunburned Surveyor [mailto:sunburned.surve...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 12:32 PM
To: OpenJump develop and use
Subject: [JPP-Devel] Death of our wiki.

It doesn't look like the OpenJUMP wiki will be coming
   

back anytime
   

soon. Does somebody have a back-up of the wiki?

I would like to make it available online, perhaps via the
   

SourceForge
   

file system.

This may be a good time to consider using the SourceForge
   

wiki, so we
   

don't have to be a burden on Jon anymore.

The Sunburned Surveyor

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Re: [JPP-Devel] mediawiki write access

2009-09-24 Thread edgar . soldin
You can try to issue a support ticket...
https://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/sourceforge/wiki/Support

.. ede

On 24.09.2009 20:09, Stefan Steiniger wrote:
> Hei Larry and others,
>
> I think you should have write access now.
> However, when I try to change the settings for Michael (michaudm) or
> Giuseppe (ma...) or Jon. The user management page of mediawiki returns
> that those users are not existing. The other person it worked was
> Andreas (stranger).
>
> Any ideas? Do they need to activate it in their account settings (tab:
> Hosted Apps).
>
> I am not really getting a hint out of this doc:
> http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/sourceforge/wiki/Hosted Apps
>
> stefan
>
> Stefan Steiniger wrote:
>
>> umhm..I changed it in the general settings, i.e. documents Editor, but
>> maybe there is something else.
>>
>> I get back to you on that
>>
>> stefan
>>
>> Larry Becker wrote:
>>  
>>> No, I still can't make modifications.  I need the specific right to be
>>> an Editor for the MediaWiki feature.
>>>
>>> regards,
>>> Larry
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Re: [JPP-Devel] openjump wiki - redirect of domain

2009-11-16 Thread edgar . soldin

> But are you sure that sourceforge allows custom domains?
>

while I had problems to do it by CNAME it works flawlessly by simple A 
record.
see also
https://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/sourceforge/wiki/Custom%20VHOSTs

regards ede


> I think two things are needed:
>
> 1. I need you to find out the name of the sourceforge nameservers (see
> screenshot below)
>
> 2. You need to configure the sourceforge wiki to set its domain name
> (openjump.org)
>
> Jon
>
>
>
>
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Stefan Steiniger [mailto:sst...@geo.uzh.ch]
>> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 12:05 AM
>> To: List for discussion of JPP development and use.; Jonathan Aquino
>> Subject: openjump wiki - redirect of domain
>>
>> Hei Jon,
>>
>> the wiki content has now been transfered (hopefully
>> completely). Can you set now the domain openjump.org to the
>> following address:
>>
>> http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/jump-pilot/index.php?tit
> le=Main_Page
>>
>> Thank you for the hosting over the past years!!! What would
>> we have been without your help ;)
>>
>> cheers from nightly Calgary
>> stefan
>>
>> PS: not sure how we will handle the openjump.org domain
>> registration (fees). Do you want to continue that?
>
>
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Re: [JPP-Devel] openjump wiki - redirect of domain

2009-11-17 Thread edgar . soldin
this is for the webspace .. you'll have to put a forwarding from there 
to the wiki if this is what you want. e.g. I currently do a

RewriteEngine on
RewriteRule   ^$  http://sourceforge.net/projects/ftplicity/  [R]

in the .htaccess of the sourceforge web. Check http://duply.net to see 
what happens.
The web root is the htdocs folder in frs.sourceforge.net project 
directory. Check
http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/sourceforge/wiki/SFTP
how to get in there.

regards ede

PS: the rule above only redirects empty requests, leaving the webspace 
as such functional. You probably might want to do
RewriteRule   ^(.*)$  
http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/jump-pilot/$1?%{QUERY_STRING}  [R]
instead, which redirects really everything, leaving requested path and 
querystring intact.


On 17.11.2009 21:42, Stefan Steiniger wrote:
> ok.. I have added openjump.org
>
> I think it is by now only scheduled? (i.e. step 3.6 is not possible).
> Without further reading, I wonder now if that is for the homepage or for
> the wiki.. but lets see...
>
> stefan
>
> Jonathan Aquino wrote:
>
>> OK, I've done steps 1 and 2 from Edgar's link:
>>
>> http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/sourceforge/wiki/Custom%20VHOSTs
>>
>> Stefan - Could you do step 3?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>   >  -Original Message-
>>   >  From: edgar.sol...@web.de [mailto:edgar.sol...@web.de]
>>   >  Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 1:35 AM
>>   >  To: OpenJump develop and use
>>   >  Subject: Re: [JPP-Devel] openjump wiki - redirect of domain
>>   >
>>   >
>>   >  >  But are you sure that sourceforge allows custom domains?
>>   >  >
>>   >
>>   >  while I had problems to do it by CNAME it works flawlessly by
>>   >  simple A record.
>>   >  see also
>>   >  https://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/sourceforge/wiki/Custom%20VHOSTs
>>   >
>>   >  regards ede
>>   >
>>   >
>>   >  >  I think two things are needed:
>>   >  >
>>   >  >  1. I need you to find out the name of the sourceforge
>>   >  nameservers (see
>>   >  >  screenshot below)
>>   >  >
>>   >  >  2. You need to configure the sourceforge wiki to set its domain name
>>   >  >  (openjump.org)
>>   >  >
>>   >  >  Jon
>>   >  >
>>   >  >
>>   >  >
>>   >  >
>>   >  >
>>   >  >>  -Original Message-
>>   >  >>  From: Stefan Steiniger [mailto:sst...@geo.uzh.ch]
>>   >  >>  Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 12:05 AM
>>   >  >>  To: List for discussion of JPP development and use.;
>>   >  Jonathan Aquino
>>   >  >>  Subject: openjump wiki - redirect of domain
>>   >  >>
>>   >  >>  Hei Jon,
>>   >  >>
>>   >  >>  the wiki content has now been transfered (hopefully
>>   >  completely). Can
>>   >  >>  you set now the domain openjump.org to the following address:
>>   >  >>
>>   >  >>  http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/jump-pilot/index.php?tit
>>   >  >  le=Main_Page
>>   >  >>
>>   >  >>  Thank you for the hosting over the past years!!! What
>>   >  would we have
>>   >  >>  been without your help ;)
>>   >  >>
>>   >  >>  cheers from nightly Calgary
>>   >  >>  stefan
>>   >  >>
>>   >  >>  PS: not sure how we will handle the openjump.org domain
>>   >  registration
>>   >  >>  (fees). Do you want to continue that?
>>   >  >
>>   >  >
>>   >  >
>>  
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Re: [JPP-Devel] [Fwd: Virus in OpenJUMP 1.3] - again

2009-12-01 Thread edgar . soldin
I just had a false positive of an exe file I was sure to be clean. I 
sent it to Avira & Kaspersky and both cleaned their signatures. Maybe 
this is also a way to go?

.. regards ede

On 01.12.2009 18:44, Stefan Steiniger wrote:
> Hei all,
>
> while I was answering on the email below (I know we had already a long
> thread on it and it seems like some day I need to copy Larrys SkyJUMP
> stuff) i found this interesting forum Entry on *Artemis*:
>
> http://forum.torrentprivacy.com/showthread.php?p=2931
>
> and just for completeness the online check:
> http://www.virustotal.com/analisis/ef8f87e0ebaa203a51f98e1d1e6b68af68ca2ac1b2513181ede852268cceebd0-1254477080
>
> cheers,
> stefan
>
>
>  Original Message 
> Subject: Virus in OpenJUMP 1.3
> Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2009 11:02:50 +0100
> From: Karsten Bleßmann
>
> Dear OpenJUMP-Team,
>
> while installing OpenJUMP 1.3 from:
>
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/jump-pilot/files/OpenJUMP%20win32%20installer/1.3/Setup-openjump13.exe/download
>
> I have an Virus-Alarm:
>
> Name: C:\Programme\OpenJUMP\bin\openjump.exe
> Virus known as: Artemis!98EA2CDE6F0F
> Status: C:\Programme\OpenJUMP\bin\openjump.exe Deleted!
>
> Why?
>
> best Regards
>
> Karsten Blessman
>
>
>


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Re: [JPP-Devel] Thinking about a release at the end of July.

2010-05-28 Thread edgar . soldin
On 28.05.2010 08:44, Michaël Michaud wrote:
> - windows exe : I recently made a proposition based on winrun4j. I 
> remember that several testers had problems to use it. I'll try to 
> prepare a new .exe/.ini file and submit it on this list.

you should run the result through

http://virustotal.com

to see if some virus scanners think it is a virus again. Just to be sure.

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Re: [JPP-Devel] Off-list: Mobile GPS solution in OJ

2010-06-07 Thread edgar . soldin
On 07.06.2010 15:11, Rahkonen Jukka wrote:
> Hi Edgar,
>
> I found accidentally this two year old mail. Have you been thinking lately 
> what would be needed for getting a live GPS connection into OpenJUMP? I would 
> love to see OpenJUMP as a moving map application with OpenStreetMap data some 
> day.

Actually no, I did two years ago and had Arndt send me a gps mouse, but 
never found the time to actually do more than preparation. After one 
year Arndt needed the mouse back and that was that ;(

>
> We do not have any such OpenJUMP projects at work right now that would 
> benefit about GPS connection but if you believe you could build such a 
> function I can consider supporting your work in some way.

I pretty much am busy during the week with my day job in dvd/blu-ray 
authoring. I sometimes do independent projects as a freelancer and take 
weeks off for that. If you or somebody wants to invest in it I can offer 
a good weeks work for may be 500 Euros to reanimate the gps extension at 
least on windows boxes. Unfortunately I have to setup eclipse and jump 
dev environment from the scratch as I am doing no java development lately.

Alternatively I can offer my findings (have to look for my notes) from 2 
years ago to anybody who wants to do modifications.

I'll forward this to the lists. I could imagine that some parties are 
interested in this and therefor might be willing to pool funds.

regards ede

>
> Regards,
>
> -Jukka Rahkonen-
>
> -Alkuperäinen viesti-
> Lähettäjä: edgar.sol...@web.de [mailto:edgar.sol...@web.de]
> Lähetetty: 4. kesäkuuta 2008 13:16
> Vastaanottaja: Rahkonen Jukka
> Aihe: Re: Off-list: Mobile GPS solution in OJ
>
> Hi Jukka,
>
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> We have a need for GPS field data collection system.  So far we have
>> been using in rather small scale software like Trimble Terrasync, TDS
>> SOLO Field. Somebody has maybe used ArcPad as well.  They are expensive,
>> Terrasync license costs something like 800 euros.  Therefore open source
>> solution interests us.
>>
>> If this idea comes true it would lead to some kind of GPS plugin for
>> uDig. We have a contract with GIS company for various GIS development
>> works and it might be possible to enlarge it for this task.
>>
>
> I am not aware of the differences in terms of code between OJ&  uDig.
> But, the gps extension so far is feature final. All I am about to do is
> fixing the serial input code, as this uses a library not
> working/supported anymore. Your coding guys can have a look at it now,
> to inspect its structure, from a programmers point of view.
> Please have a look at the attached message I've sent to the list for
> more information.
>
>> My question is that do you believe there might be some possibilities to
>> make these projects to support each other?  I do not understand anything
>> about programming and differences between JUMP and uDig. Do you believe
>> that the plugin you are going to write could be used as a basis for
>> enhanced uDig field data collector plugin, and vice versa, could it be
>> possible to make the uDig plugin is such a way that it could be ported
>> back to JUMP some day?
>>
>
> One has to tap into uDig code for that .. but the internal structure of
> the extension should make reuse pretty easy.
>
> Regards ede
>
>> Please be careful in keeping this discussion off-list.
>>
>
> Ps: any special reason for this?
>
>> With best regards,
>>
>> Jukka Rahkonen
>>
>> Planning officer
>> Information centre of the
>> Ministry of agriculture and forestry
>> Finland
>>
>
>

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Re: [JPP-Devel] [openjump-users] Re: VS: Off-list: Mobile GPS solution in OJ

2010-06-08 Thread edgar . soldin
On 08.06.2010 16:48, Larry Becker wrote:
> Seems like GPSylon is a large program and you only need the small
> portion ( gpsinput library?) that communicates with GPS devices, but
> apparently that library depends on external code.
>
> (From the GPSylon web site): "The library that is used to communicate
> with the gps device can be used independently and is provided as a
> separate jar file (since version 0.5)".


That's the plan, gpsylon is actually a suite of tools (jars).

What's missing is somebody volunteering or paying for the modifications.

..ede


>
> Larry
>
> On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 9:19 AM,  > wrote:
>
>
> the old version is dead, there was an updated version which
> was supposed
> to work on various platforms 2 years ago.
> i think they developed into ..
> http://www.tegmento.org/gpsylon/
>
>
> Last update to GPSylon was more than three years ago. Is it reliable
> enough to use or should everything be made again with some other
> library?
> Gpsd http://gpsd.berlios.de/ seems to be rather commonly used
> but the
> developers say that it will never support Windows which is not
> so great
> news.
>
>
> gpsd is not java based. I'd rather use as less platform dependent
> code as possible.
> But as GPS data is generally a plain text serial protocol one could
> of course use data from a gpsd source and let gpsylon interpret it.
> There seems to be a windows alternative as well
> http://code.google.com/p/gpsd-4-win/ . I dimly remember tat gpsylon
> supported this type of input.
>
> gpsylon worked reliably then .. question is if the binary serial
> libraries work with windows 7 / vista ... they are readymade
> compiled for XP/NT .. it looks like it is possible to compile
> mingw32 version of the underlying http://rxtx.qbang.org/ rxtx library.
>
> Hence even if the serial input does not work, gpsylon still has
> value in interpreting the gps data.
>
> .. ede
>
>

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Re: [JPP-Devel] [openjump-users] Re: VS: Off-list: Mobile GPS solution in OJ

2010-06-08 Thread edgar . soldin
I guess the solution will be a combination of both

a) support of network socket style gps ala gpsd
b) serial support if java serial support is possible

.. ede


On 08.06.2010 20:02, Joe Desbonnet wrote:
> GPS integration although relatively trivial has always been a problem
> for Java apps because the necessary APIs to talk to the hardware
> (RS232, USB or Bluetooth) have never been part of the standard Java
> distribution. Therefore you always need extra stuff: either the
> missing APIs (eg the RXTX open source implementation of the javax.comm
> API) or a OS dependent daemon (service) that bridges the data from
> hardware to network socket which can be easily read by Java.
> 
> But a few things have changed in the past few years:
> 
> 1. Most GPS receivers sold today are part of a smart phone (that's a
> guess -- but I'm pretty sure I'm not far off right :-)
> 
> 2. There is now a standard and readily available (sort of) Java
> bluetooth API in the form of Android 2.0+.
> 
> So: you could achieve GPS integration by writing a small Android app
> (it's Java, free SDK and easy to learn) which will take location
> updates from the built in GPS and and send them via a network socket.
> Or, you could use the app in a different mode: to connect to a
> separate Bluetooth GPS unit and transmit the data via a network
> socket.
> 
> One fly in the ointment: Up to the recent announcement of Android 2.2
> (aka Froyo) tethering a unmodified Android phone to a computer via
> WiFi was not easy unless you had an access point. Froyo allows the
> phone to become an access point: so you can connect a laptop directly
> to the phone. There may be other modes supported (eg adhoc networks
> etc.. I haven't looked at the details yet). Unfortunately most phones
> are not running Froyo (yet), but should be receiving over-the-air
> updates in the next 6 months.
> 
> Joe.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 4:12 PM,   wrote:
>> On 08.06.2010 16:48, Larry Becker wrote:
>>> Seems like GPSylon is a large program and you only need the small
>>> portion ( gpsinput library?) that communicates with GPS devices, but
>>> apparently that library depends on external code.
>>>
>>> (From the GPSylon web site): "The library that is used to communicate
>>> with the gps device can be used independently and is provided as a
>>> separate jar file (since version 0.5)".
>>
>>
>> That's the plan, gpsylon is actually a suite of tools (jars).
>>
>> What's missing is somebody volunteering or paying for the modifications.
>>
>> ..ede
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Larry
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 9:19 AM, >> > wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> the old version is dead, there was an updated version which
>>> was supposed
>>> to work on various platforms 2 years ago.
>>> i think they developed into ..
>>> http://www.tegmento.org/gpsylon/
>>>
>>>
>>> Last update to GPSylon was more than three years ago. Is it reliable
>>> enough to use or should everything be made again with some other
>>> library?
>>> Gpsd http://gpsd.berlios.de/ seems to be rather commonly used
>>> but the
>>> developers say that it will never support Windows which is not
>>> so great
>>> news.
>>>
>>>
>>> gpsd is not java based. I'd rather use as less platform dependent
>>> code as possible.
>>> But as GPS data is generally a plain text serial protocol one could
>>> of course use data from a gpsd source and let gpsylon interpret it.
>>> There seems to be a windows alternative as well
>>> http://code.google.com/p/gpsd-4-win/ . I dimly remember tat gpsylon
>>> supported this type of input.
>>>
>>> gpsylon worked reliably then .. question is if the binary serial
>>> libraries work with windows 7 / vista ... they are readymade
>>> compiled for XP/NT .. it looks like it is possible to compile
>>> mingw32 version of the underlying http://rxtx.qbang.org/ rxtx library.
>>>
>>> Hence even if the serial input does not work, gpsylon still has
>>> value in interpreting the gps data.
>>>
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[JPP-Devel] gps serial access testing

2010-07-18 Thread edgar . soldin
Hi all,

just uploaded
http://jamoke.net/gpstest.zip

extracted you will find a folder ./gpstest containing modified versions of 
gpsylon and rxtx. Essentially rxtx is patched to autoload the native libraries 
needed for win32/64 and linux32/64 and allow the user to easily supply another 
version for other os's.

I hereby ask whoever is interested to help or just to have oj gps support to 
check if the serial device access is working in his/her platform. I tested 
Windows XP 32 and Debian Linux 32 already. 

Therefore please enter the gpstest folder and issue the following commands in 
the command line / terminal of your os.

java -cp "path/to/gpstest.jar" org.dinopolis.gpstool.gpsinput.SerialPortList

if working gives you a list of available serial ports. On success and with a 
gps mouse at hand you might try to receive raw data from it.

java -jar "path\to\gpstest.jar" (gives a list of all parameters)
e.g.
java -jar "path\to\gpstest.jar" -d COM4 --rawdata

COM4 might be /dev/ttyS1 on linux or else on other os's. Actually you could 
simply try to connect each detected port from SerialPortList with connected 
serial gps receiver. You might have to adjust the serial parameters though.

Eventually: When you want to try Mac OS or others, please do the following. Go 
to

http://rxtx.qbang.org/wiki/index.php/Download

and try to find the native library for your os. Put it in gpstool/rxtx/ . Now 
run the tests above.


Please send your findings and output to the devel list 
(jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net) or directly to me please.

Thanks ede

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Re: [JPP-Devel] [openjump-users] gps serial access testing

2010-07-19 Thread edgar . soldin
looking forward to it. Still i want to emphasize my interest in the still 
untested platforms:

Windows 7 (32/64bit)
Windows Vista (32/64bit)
Linux 64 bit
Mac OS X (PPC/Intel)

If anybody can check these please this would help a lot.

thanks ede

On 19.07.2010 19:07, Sunburned Surveyor wrote:
> Ede,
> 
> I'll give it a spin on my Windows XP box today at lunch. I'd try it on
> my Ubuntu box, but that is at home.
> 
> The Sunburned Surveyor
> 
> On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 10:32 AM,   wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> just uploaded
>> http://jamoke.net/gpstest.zip
>>
>> extracted you will find a folder ./gpstest containing modified versions of 
>> gpsylon and rxtx. Essentially rxtx is patched to autoload the native 
>> libraries needed for win32/64 and linux32/64 and allow the user to easily 
>> supply another version for other os's.
>>
>> I hereby ask whoever is interested to help or just to have oj gps support to 
>> check if the serial device access is working in his/her platform. I tested 
>> Windows XP 32 and Debian Linux 32 already.
>>
>> Therefore please enter the gpstest folder and issue the following commands 
>> in the command line / terminal of your os.
>>
>> java -cp "path/to/gpstest.jar" org.dinopolis.gpstool.gpsinput.SerialPortList
>>
>> if working gives you a list of available serial ports. On success and with a 
>> gps mouse at hand you might try to receive raw data from it.
>>
>> java -jar "path\to\gpstest.jar" (gives a list of all parameters)
>> e.g.
>> java -jar "path\to\gpstest.jar" -d COM4 --rawdata
>>
>> COM4 might be /dev/ttyS1 on linux or else on other os's. Actually you could 
>> simply try to connect each detected port from SerialPortList with connected 
>> serial gps receiver. You might have to adjust the serial parameters though.
>>
>> Eventually: When you want to try Mac OS or others, please do the following. 
>> Go to
>>
>> http://rxtx.qbang.org/wiki/index.php/Download
>>
>> and try to find the native library for your os. Put it in gpstool/rxtx/ . 
>> Now run the tests above.
>>
>>
>> Please send your findings and output to the devel list 
>> (jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net) or directly to me please.
>>
>> Thanks ede
>>


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  public static void main (String[] foo){

  sender = new Person();
  sender.setName(new String[]{"Edgar", "Soldin"});

  Address address = new Address();
  address.setStreet("Stadtweg 119");
  address.setZip(39116);
  address.setCity("Magdeburg");
  address.setCountry("Germany");

  sender.setAddress(address);

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  sender.setWebSiteUrl(" http://www.soldin.de ");
  sender.setEmail(" ed...@soldin.de ");
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Re: [JPP-Devel] [openjump-users] gps serial access testing

2010-07-20 Thread edgar . soldin
Thanks,

could you please also try
rxtx-2.1-7-bins-r2/Linux/x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/librxtxSerial.so
from
http://rxtx.qbang.org/pub/rxtx/rxtx-2.1-7-bins-r2.zip

.. ede


On 20.07.2010 09:43, Matthias Scholz wrote:
> Hi Edgar,
>
> test on Debian Etch 64 Bit:
>
> java -cp gpstest.jar org.dinopolis.gpstool.gpsinput.SerialPortList
> RXTX Loader on: 'Linux' 'amd64'
> RXTX is located in: 'file:/data/home/mscholz/tmp/gpstest/gpstest.jar'
> RXTX base folder is: '/data/home/mscholz/tmp/gpstest'
> Could not find: /data/home/mscholz/tmp/gpstest/rxtx/librxtxSerial.so
> #
> # A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment:
> #
> #  SIGFPE (0x8) at pc=0x2b9d55e2db83, pid=20281, tid=1076017504
> #
> # JRE version: 6.0_20-b02
> # Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (16.3-b01 mixed mode
> linux-amd64 )
> # Problematic frame:
> # C  [ld-linux-x86-64.so.2+0x7b83]
> #
> # An error report file with more information is saved as:
> # /data/home/mscholz/tmp/gpstest/hs_err_pid20281.log
> #
> # If you would like to submit a bug report, please visit:
> #   http://java.sun.com/webapps/bugreport/crash.jsp
> # The crash happened outside the Java Virtual Machine in native code.
> # See problematic frame for where to report the bug.
> #
> Abgebrochen
>
>
> If I copy the librxtxSerial.so manually into the rxtx folder I get the
> same result. The Java error report is attached.
>
>
> Regards
>
> Matthias
>

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Re: [JPP-Devel] gps serial access testing

2010-07-20 Thread edgar . soldin
On 20.07.2010 10:41, Matthias Scholz wrote:
> Hi Edgar,
>
> I would like to help with OJ GPS support, if we talk about live GPS
> support. For *nix systems we should have a gpsd(http://gpsd.berlios.de/)
> support. If I use a gps device, then I use it mostly with more than one
> application which consumes GPS data. So the gpsd is a great solution :-)
>

This is on my todo list.. But first things first I start by reactivating serial 
gps support.

greetings ede

> Regards
>
> Matthias
>> Hi all,
>>
>> just uploaded
>> http://jamoke.net/gpstest.zip
>>
>> extracted you will find a folder ./gpstest containing modified versions of 
>> gpsylon and rxtx. Essentially rxtx is patched to autoload the native 
>> libraries needed for win32/64 and linux32/64 and allow the user to easily 
>> supply another version for other os's.
>>
>> I hereby ask whoever is interested to help or just to have oj gps support to 
>> check if the serial device access is working in his/her platform. I tested 
>> Windows XP 32 and Debian Linux 32 already.
>>
>> Therefore please enter the gpstest folder and issue the following commands 
>> in the command line / terminal of your os.
>>
>> java -cp "path/to/gpstest.jar" org.dinopolis.gpstool.gpsinput.SerialPortList
>>
>> if working gives you a list of available serial ports. On success and with a 
>> gps mouse at hand you might try to receive raw data from it.
>>
>> java -jar "path\to\gpstest.jar" (gives a list of all parameters)
>> e.g.
>> java -jar "path\to\gpstest.jar" -d COM4 --rawdata
>>
>> COM4 might be /dev/ttyS1 on linux or else on other os's. Actually you could 
>> simply try to connect each detected port from SerialPortList with connected 
>> serial gps receiver. You might have to adjust the serial parameters though.
>>
>> Eventually: When you want to try Mac OS or others, please do the following. 
>> Go to
>>
>> http://rxtx.qbang.org/wiki/index.php/Download
>>
>> and try to find the native library for your os. Put it in gpstool/rxtx/ . 
>> Now run the tests above.
>>
>>
>> Please send your findings and output to the devel list 
>> (jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net) or directly to me please.
>>
>> Thanks ede
>>
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public class WhoDidIt{ // A comment. I love comments
   private static Person sender;

   public static void main (String[] foo){

   sender = new Person();
   sender.setName(new String[]{"Edgar", "Soldin"});

   Address address = new Address();
   address.setStreet("Stadtweg 119");
   address.setZip(39116);
   address.setCity("Magdeburg");
   address.setCountry("Germany");

   sender.setAddress(address);

   sender.setMobilePhone(" +49(0)171-2782880 ");
   sender.setWebSiteUrl(" http://www.soldin.de ");
   sender.setEmail(" ed...@soldin.de ");
   sender.setPGPPublicKey(" http://www.soldin.de/edgar_soldin.asc ");
   sender.setGender(true);

   System.out.println(sender.toString());
   }
}

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[JPP-Devel] svn access

2010-07-21 Thread edgar . soldin
In connection to the work on the gps extension I'd like to request access to 
the sourceforge svn. I think it'd make sense to store the plugin sources there 
for others to see and work with. My sourceforge id is 
e...@users.sourceforge.net .

Thanks ede

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