KR>Re: KR flight characteristics

[Tommy Waymack]

After 27 years of flying a stock kr2 . I Still hear here people complaining
about how the airplane is pitch sensitive. Maybe there is something to be
said for pilot training. would not change a thing.Beech Bonanza is pitch
sensitive too. Tommy W.

On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 3:21 PM Flesner  wrote:

>
> n 8/22/2021 1:25 PM, Jeff Scott wrote:
>
> > I flew my KR for 500 hrs without any drag producing devices.  Then I
> > added flaps and significantly modified the tail.  I don't think I ever
> > landed without flaps again other than for training purposes.  The
> > larger tail and deployable drag greatly expanded the operating
> > envelope of my KR with much improved crosswind performance.  My KR
> > suddenly changed from a calm day flyer to a plane that I could fly in
> > almost any VFR weather.
> >
> > -Jeff Scott
>
> +++
>
>
>
> It's unfortunate that the KR's have the reputation they have based on
> the original KR2.  The 2S built now days is a sleeper on the market.
> When Jeff moved up to a larger air frame (RV6) he sold one of the best
> equipped KR's on the market, 50% faster on the same fuel burn, than a
> C150 for less than $20K.  The Wisconsin KR2S just auctioned off is
> another example of a great bargain.
>
> The major problem with the KR is that people have out grown the design.
> A 200 pound pilot wants to carry a180 pound passenger in a small air
> frame using 75 h.p.  If the 200 pound owner would consider the airplane
> to be a great single place, and make a few mods to improve the flying
> characteristics if desired, they would enjoy owning and flying the KR.
> Mark Langford, being the size person the KR was designed for 50 years
> ago, flies one of the most stock KR2's all over the Midwest on a regular
> basis.  The flying characteristics are acceptable enough so that he is
> not yet motivated to repair the 2S he flew prior to that and put it back
> in the air.
>
> The KR has it's flaws but all are well know and can be designed out to
> have a great flying, economical airplane.  That's why it still has it's
> followers.
>
> Larry Flesner
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Re: KR> krnet.org

[Tommy Waymack via KRnet]

Just a note about Willie Wilson. Larry said correctly ,Willie was born in
Scotland. Willie and his wife attended several KR Gatherings.I was honored
to host 2 gatherings in Pine Bluff,Arkansas.One in 1996 and 2001.I will
never forget the banquet at one.My introduction Of Willie and his wife
echoed Larry's intro as being from England. Willie in his polite scottish
manner immediately corrected me.Scotland. My ignorance was deserved. But
his point was made.I always admired and respected him.Hope he would
appreciate my comment.Tommy W.

On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 2:28 PM Flesner via KRnet 
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> On 1/10/2021 2:27 PM, Flesner via KRnet wrote:
> >
> > The simple drawing didn't come through with the e-mail.
>
> +++
>
> try this link
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/qwg6rpz1ultjqdx/image003.jpg?dl=0
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Re: KR> cht / egt instrument - round analog gauges

[Tommy Waymack via KRnet]

I get it. Gauges are simple.VFR flying is relatively simple. IFR is not the
KR flying we like. Give me a half gillion dollar airplane for IFR with
glass panel anytime.Tommy W.
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Re: KR> Two questions

[Tommy Waymack via KRnet]

Tommy Waymack <5blind...@gmail.com>
9:41 AM (0 minutes ago)
to KRnet
My question is: could
the servos drive springs attached to the control cables. This has been done
in aircraft for pitch trim and works pretty well. Seems simpler and more
aerodynamic than trim tabs that work opposite of the desired result. Either
way, I am interested.
Thresholds and feedback overruns make it more trouble than its worth.But we
are experimental engineers.Tommy W.

On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 9:41 AM Tommy Waymack <5blind...@gmail.com> wrote:

> My question is: could
> the servos drive springs attached to the control cables. This has been done
> in aircraft for pitch trim and works pretty well. Seems simpler and more
> aerodynamic than trim tabs that work opposite of the desired result. Either
> way, I am interested.
> Thresholds and feedback overruns make it more trouble than its worth.But
> we are experimental engineers.Tommy W.
>
> On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 1:52 AM Gary Sack via KRnet 
> wrote:
>
>> I've enjoyed the comments concerning the autopilot. My question is: could
>> the servos drive springs attached to the control cables. This has been
>> done
>> in aircraft for pitch trim and works pretty well. Seems simpler and more
>> aerodynamic than trim tabs that work opposite of the desired result.
>> Either
>> way, I am interested.
>>Second question...a year ago I wrote about damaging my KR prop while
>> hand starting. I have repaired the prop and statically balanced it, but it
>> vibrates badly. Is there a simple way to dynamically balance a prop? Also
>> does it matter how the prop is orientated to the throw of the crankshaft?
>> I
>> know the engine is fine because my spare prop runs smoothly.
>>
>>I took Richard's advice to mount a Subaru starter on my HAPI  engine. I
>> had some problems getting the adapter plate just right, but my engine
>> really cranks now. Thanks.
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Re: KR> Two questions

[Tommy Waymack via KRnet]

My question is: could
the servos drive springs attached to the control cables. This has been done
in aircraft for pitch trim and works pretty well. Seems simpler and more
aerodynamic than trim tabs that work opposite of the desired result. Either
way, I am interested.
Thresholds and feedback overruns make it more trouble than its worth.But we
are experimental engineers.Tommy W.

On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 1:52 AM Gary Sack via KRnet 
wrote:

> I've enjoyed the comments concerning the autopilot. My question is: could
> the servos drive springs attached to the control cables. This has been done
> in aircraft for pitch trim and works pretty well. Seems simpler and more
> aerodynamic than trim tabs that work opposite of the desired result. Either
> way, I am interested.
>Second question...a year ago I wrote about damaging my KR prop while
> hand starting. I have repaired the prop and statically balanced it, but it
> vibrates badly. Is there a simple way to dynamically balance a prop? Also
> does it matter how the prop is orientated to the throw of the crankshaft? I
> know the engine is fine because my spare prop runs smoothly.
>
>I took Richard's advice to mount a Subaru starter on my HAPI  engine. I
> had some problems getting the adapter plate just right, but my engine
> really cranks now. Thanks.
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Re: KR> today's flight, and Jim Hill's KR2 to KR2S stretch

[Tommy Waymack via KRnet]

Jim Hill sold his plane to my long time friend and bro.Noel wanted that
plane and sold his Harley Night train to do it. His cancer diagnosis only
inspired his desire to fly his own plane. He had his private pilot ticket
and approval to operate with a prosthetic left leg below the knee. Once the
deal was made, Jim changed the brakes from toe to hand operation and the
deal was made. With a normal check out of the aircraft and flight check
with KR check pilot, Noel was able to fly his aircraft safely and enjoyed
it until he was no longer able to fly due to his medical condition.The KR
has trigear,installed during the mods and rebuild. The takeaway is
this.Jim's changes to the aircraft where good in that it flys much better
than the KR2[stock configuration] I flew for 27 years.Tommy W.

On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 10:07 AM RB via KRnet  wrote:

> The Rotec TBI does not care for ram air either.  I had a few situations
> where it ran up fine to takeoff power, but sputtered going down the
> runway.  Pulling the power back say .5 inches  MAP worth corrected it.  I
> fly with the filter access panel off, a nd have no problems.  I can cruise
> with ram air.  Some day I will mod to handle both.  Maybe.
> When the engine sputters while barreling down the runway, it gets your
> attention.
>
> Roger
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>
> From: Mark Langford via KRnet
> Sent: Monday, April 20, 2020 8:18 PM
> To: Flesner via KRnet
> Cc: Mark Langford
> Subject: Re: KR> today's flight, and Jim Hill's KR2 to KR2S stretch
>
> Larry Flesner wrote:
>
> > I'm wondering  if this is something I want to be flying behind at my
>
> Just a remindermake dang sure it will run wide open for at half a
> minute before you commit to a takeoff!  If it'll do that, you'll
> probably get enough altitude to turn back, especially if you climb out
> at a 30-40 degree angle, to make it easier to circle back if you have
> to.  This is something I give a lot of thought to!
>
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Re: KR> RAF-48

[Tommy Waymack via KRnet]

Jeff, Thank you for the correction to the RAF-48 issue.The Taylor monoplane
would have been a better choice of words Attention to detail separates the
mechanics from the inspectors.I worked with one such inspector in
Batesville,Mark Givens of Mountain View,AR. A California transplant and
avid aviation professional.If you see him,tell him I said Hi. Tommy W.

On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 11:55 AM Jeff Scott via KRnet 
wrote:

> Per Taylorcraft.org, the Taylorcraft used a NACA 23012 airfoil.  Also used
> on the Beech Bonanza.  I haven't looked it up to verify, but isn't that the
> same airfoil used on Roy Marsh's KR now owned by John Bouyea?  John will
> know.
>
> -Jeff Scott
>
>
> > Subject: Re: KR> RAF-48
> >
> > Taylorcraft used RAF 48
>
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Re: KR> RAF-48

[Tommy Waymack via KRnet]

Taylorcraft used RAF 48

On Sat, Mar 14, 2020 at 6:51 AM Chris Kinnaman via KRnet <
krnet@list.krnet.org> wrote:

> Mike,
>
> Not correcting your theory or practice of low-drag flying, just the
> Spitfire airfoil part. Spitfires had a NACA 2213 airfoil at the root,
> tapering to 9% (2209) near the tip and washed out to keep the elliptical
> planform from stalling all at once across the span.
>
> Chris K.
>
>
> On 3/13/2020 9:51 PM, Mike Stirewalt via KRnet wrote:
> > Jeff said,
> >
> > "While many seem to poo-poo the RAF-48 airfoil, mostly for it's unknown
> > data points, it is a gentle airfoil with plenty of warning for stalls."
> >
> > That's certainly been my experience.  Maybe it's just an OWT but I read
> > or heard many years ago that it's the same airfoil as the Spitfire.
> > That's probably a meaningless statement since there were several Mk
> > Spitfire designs and could easily have had different airfoils . . .
>
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Re: KR> transponder / encoder?

[Tommy Waymack via KRnet]

IFR operations and flight require certification of transponder and encoder
every 2 years.VFR ops do not.Having said that and pointed out the regs.We
all want our equipment to be correct.Transponder and encoder cert becomes
an option favored by most who depend on it for safe flight.Tommy W.

On Sun, Dec 22, 2019 at 9:30 PM Flesner via KRnet 
wrote:

> On 12/22/2019 9:07 PM, Jeff Scott via KRnet wrote:
> > In answer to your original question, yes, they are adjustable.  That's
> part of your transponder check that is supposed to be done every 2 years.
> >
>
> 
>
> Thanks to all that responded in an attempt to enlighten me.  I guess I
> found something to spend my Christmas bonus on.
>
> Larry Flesner
>
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Re: KR> artificial horizon

[Tommy Waymack via KRnet]

just a heads up.rudy does not have a good reputation.they are a legal
instrument shop.

On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 4:01 PM Randall Smith via KRnet 
wrote:

> You may call Rudy aircraft instruments in Rudy Arkansas
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Oct 29, 2019, at 6:38 PM, Flesner via KRnet 
> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > I have a Falcon electric artificial horizon that is several years old
> and on the last flight it started to "drift".  Might have been karma from
> those jets but I think its just getting tired like me. Any advise on repair
> stations or replacement options would be appreciated.  Any DIY advise?
> >
> > Larry Flesner
> >
> >
> >
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Re: KR> Home from Gathering

[Tommy Waymack via KRnet]

I get why the RV pilot did not pull heat.Flying over southern Cali dessert
at 9000' The cherokee I was flying back to Arkansas engine failed.Radioed
the other cherokee in our flight of 2,I am looking for a place to land.The
other plane happened to be the owner of both planes.He radioed back,Pull
the carb heat. I did and the engine came back to life.Like a dumbass I
probably would have balled it up in the desert.We all need help flying
airplanes.Tommy W.

On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 8:37 PM Jeff Scott via KRnet 
wrote:

> Yes, Lycomings will develop carb ice.  Not quite as readily as a
> Continental or Franklin, but they will certainly do so under the right
> circumstances.  Glad he got it on the ground OK.  Not to second guess his
> actions, but have to wonder why he didn't pull on carb heat at the first
> sign that all wasn't well.  I'm guessing he didn't recognize that it was
> ice.  Pulling carb heat on should be part of his standard emergency
> sequence when the engine isn't running right, and likely will be in the
> future.  (Full Rich, carb heat on, full throttle, switch fuel tanks)  None
> of those actions are likely to get you killed, but they can sure save your
> day.
>
> -Jeff Scott
>
>
>
> > Sent: Friday, September 20, 2019 at 1:30 PM
> > From: "Flesner via KRnet" 
> > To: krnet@list.krnet.org
> > Cc: Flesner 
> > Subject: KR> Home from Gathering
> >
> >
> > I brought my KR home from Mt.Vernon this afternoon.  I'll pull a
> > cylinder this weekend and send it off for repair of the exhaust valve.
> > Flight home was uneventful for me, other than the weak cylinder that I'm
> > guessing is causing my vibration, but not so for my friend in his RV10
> > that took me to Mt.Vernon.  He was running low power as he followed me
> > home and 5 miles from his home airport his engine starting running
> > rough.  He was very close to a residential air park with a 2600 foot
> > grass strip so he decided to land there.  His engine went dead on short
> > final but he landed safely.  He called me to pick him up so I drove to
> > the strip.  On my drive to the strip I concluded he had suffered carb
> > ice and not a fouled plug.  When I got there he said it was running fine
> > again.  He runs a Lycombing 540 which shouldn't be susceptible to icing
> > but today was a perfect day for carb ice.  I ran carb heat the entire
> > time from Mt.Vernon.   A quick run up and he flew home the last five
> > miles and landed safely.
> >
> > I guess I'm the last to get the KR home so all is well.  See you at Lee
> > Summit next year.
> >
> > Larry Flesner
> >
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Re: KR> KR2S plans NVAERO......etc?

[Tommy Waymack via KRnet]

Thanks to the moderator for an excellent explanation.Will second that and
remind us everyone connected to the gathering and KRnet are
volunteers.Thanks again.Tommy W.


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On Tue, Aug 13, 2019 at 8:36 PM Mark Langford via KRnet <
krnet@list.krnet.org> wrote:

>   Devin York via KRnet wrote:
>
>  >Looking for plans for a KR2S.  NVaero site seems down?
>
> I talked to NVaero owner Steve Glover, and he is aware that the website
> is down and will work towards reviving it when he gets a chance.  He has
> several much larger issues on his mind now, with almost his entire
> immediate family nearing end of life issues.  Let's give him a bit of
> breathing room. He doesn't have complete plans sets in stock in the
> moment, but will work to remedy that.
>
>   I'd like to remind folks that one doesn't "make a living" selling KR
> parts  Really, it has to be a labor of love, which is difficult unless
> one is retired and self sufficient with spare time on their hands.  It
> simply doesn't make economic sense to build and stock practically
> anything, as KR builders are famously "DIY" folks who'd rather build it
> themselves than buy it from anybodyregardless of price.  Sales
> volume to KR builders is practically non-existent.
>
> I've said this beforeKR builders really need to return to the "good
> old days" of KR buildingback in the 70's and 80's.  Back then, a
> builder might build something like a flap handle or control stick from
> the plans, or even improve on the design, and then sell completed
> assemblies or parts kits through the KR Newsletter, depending on what
> the seller or buyers might be interested in.  Nobody made a pile of
> money, or perhaps ANY money (if they considered their time worth
> anything), it was more of a labor of love or support for this aircraft
> design and to help like-minded builders that we all agree makes so much
> sense for us cheapskate DIY guys to get our butts in the air!
>
> Problem iswe're almost all strapped for time, and if you're on this
> list, you probably want to spend whatever "spare" time you have building
> or flying your airplane, rather than building stuff for other
> folks.who'd rather build it themselves anyway.  I guess what I'm
> trying to say is that we've all chosen to build this neat little
> airplane, knowing that the construction process is simple, but full of
> simple little tasks that add up to to be a considerably time-consuming
> process.
>
> That's not to say that there are not some huge shortcuts to be had, like
> buying landing gear that's already cut, welded, and ready for
> installation, and wing skins, originally offered by Dan Diehl, and now
> sold by NVaero.  Steve at NVaero even went to the trouble of making a
> set of molds for the "new" airfoil (the "AS504x") skins, that can save a
> lot of time, yield a very nice looking set of "bubble free" wings, but
> are expensive to create, ship, and more importantly, keep hanging around
> waiting for somebody to buy a set.  He has a lot of time and money tied
> up in those molds, and I'm guessing they have a LONG way to go before
> they pay for themselves, if ever.  Keep this kind of stuff in mind when
> we wonder why there are hardly any folks selling KR-specific parts these
> days.
>
>   For those who don't know about the "new airfoil", see
> http://www.krnet.org/as504x/ for more on that, with links to full size
> templates that you can download and carry to Kinkos to build them
> from.if you have the time.
>
> Mark Langford
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KR> KR 2 nose gear assemby

[Tommy Waymack via KRnet]

Have a Dielh nose wheel assembly for the KR 2 I put back for future
use.Thought it might come in handy in my old age.The plane was sold in
2017,and now it will go to someone with an airplane.If one of the builders
or flyers would like a real deal on an assembly,contact me at 870-267-0543
and leave a message or off krnet at 5blind...@gmail.com.Pictures are on
craigslist little rock aviation.Tommy W.
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Re: KR> I have this green foam board...

[Tommy Waymack via KRnet]

Also used in areas that need resistance to fuel and oil.

On Sun, Apr 7, 2019 at 10:12 AM Parley T Byington via KRnet <
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> Virgil;
>
> That foam is Urethane foam and was what most early KRs were made with.
>
> The wing ribs as well as the surface are formed from this easily sanded
> foam.  One caution I would advise anyone who uses this type of foam is to
> be SURE AND WEAR a face mask to keep the sanding foam out of YOUR LUNGS!
> Also this type of foam produces syanide (sic) gas when burned!
>
> My wings and most of the molds used on my kr-2 was created using this type
> of foam.
>
> Thanks
> P. Byington
> N54PB KR-2
> Henderson Nevada
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>
>
> > On Apr 7, 2019, at 05:35, Virgil via KRnet  wrote:
> >
> > PVC Foam. Mid 70,s @ 0.25 par board foot, Virg
> >
> > On 4/6/19 10:41 PM, Oscar Zuniga via KRnet wrote:
> >> Netters; I salvaged a KR2 project that's about 20-25 years old that
> included all the "KR kit" foam board required to build the airplane.  It
> consists of a stack of boards that are something like 18" wide by maybe 8
> ft long and in two thicknesses.  Color is sort of greenish and the stuff is
> somewhat delicate and lightweight.  I'm not kidding when I say that you can
> take a piece of this board and use it to sand down another piece of the
> board.  I have no idea what it is or if it's worth hanging onto.  Anybody
> know what it is?
> >>
> >> Oscar Zuniga
> >> Medford, OR
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Re: KR> Separating a Fixed Forward Deck

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Just a thought,there ain't nothing can't be fixed. Tommy W.

On Thu, Dec 27, 2018 at 3:58 PM Oscar Zuniga via KRnet 
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> Bou; my guess is that once you get the upper deck separated from the
> airframe and see how everything goes together under there, you'll be making
> various other improvements and modifications as well.  All good, all good,
> but there is a fine balance between making improvements and doing a
> complete overhaul (as I'm sure Jeff Scott can attest from his recent fuel
> tank rebuild experience), but as someone once said, "do it right the first
> time and you'll only have to do it once".
>
> In my case, completely different setup but the one thing I do know is that
> there are areas up under the fuel tank in the front cockpit of my Piet that
> I'm not sure I could ever get myself out of if I were to get a muscle cramp
> while stuffed under there.  I've come close to becoming a permanent part of
> the front cockpit a time or two after pretzeling myself in under there to
> work on the fuel shutoff valve and rudder pedals and like to have never
> gotten myself out.  A readily-removable access door or panel would really
> help.  Piet builder/pilot Kevin Purtee cut a square hole in the floor of
> his airplane up between the rudder pedals in the front cockpit and
> installed a clear Lexan cover over it with screws just for that purpose.
> Interestingly, it can also be used by the front cockpit passenger to see
> things under the airplane and watch the runway come zooming up into view on
> final.  Adds that extra dash of exhilaration, and in the case of the KR,
> looking down through a view panel on landing would probably seem like the
> plane was about to make a gear-up landing, they sit so close to the
> pavement ;o)
>
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Re: KR> 51% Rule

[Tommy Waymack via KRnet]

Yes it does make aviation safer to require aircraft be manufactured and
maintained by competent individuals using approved methods and
materials.Tommy W.

On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 11:01 AM Randall Smith via KRnet <
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>
> Canadian home built can fly in the US. I have a neighbor flying a South
> Africa registration on a glassair here in the states.
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Dec 12, 2018, at 8:44 AM, Dave Acklam via KRnet 
> wrote:
> >
> > People who fly internationally - for the same reason owner-maintained
> > Canadian aircraft can't leave Canada. Other countries wouldn't recognize
> > the airworthiness of such aircraft.
> >
> > Really that is where GA needs to go to survive: Certificated aircraft for
> > international and commercial flying, everything else maintained according
> > to present experimental ameteur built rules.
> >
> > Does it really make aviation safer to require me to use older and more
> > expensive parts in my Comanche, and to pay a licensed individual to build
> > my wiring harnesses, simply because it was built by Piper?
> >
> >> On Sun, Oct 7, 2018, 2:38 PM Mike T via KRnet  wrote:
> >>
> >> I think AVweb was the site that reported that the FAA was going to
> extend
> >> the deadline for ADS-B, which turned out to be a hoax.  I'll believe
> >> they're scrapping the 51% rule when I read it in Flying Magazine or
> >> Kitplanes.
> >>
> >> At any rate, if a factory could build experimental planes and do an end
> run
> >> around all the regulations of certified planes, why would anyone (except
> >> people carrying passengers for money) ever buy a certified plane again?
> >>
> >> Mike Taglieri
> >>
> >> On Sun, Oct 7, 2018, 3:16 PM Mike Stirewalt via KRnet <
> >> krnet@list.krnet.org>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I just read again today on Avweb that the FAA is doing away with the
> 51%
> >>> rule, leaving the door open for Steve Glover to produce fully-built
> KR's
> >>> and sell them as off-the-shelf airplanes -  either as Experimentals or
> >>> LSA's - I don't know enough about LSA's to say which category will be
> >>> appropriate.  The weight limit on LSA's is going from 1320 or whatever
> >>> it's been, to 3600 pounds.  It's all still in the planning stage - no
> >>> final rule making yet - but it looks like major changes are happening
> >>> soon.
> >>>
> >>> Mike
> >>> KSEE
> >>>
> >>> 
> >>> Drink This Before Bed, Watch Your Body Fat Melt Like Crazy
> >>> Celebrity Local
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Re: KR> Aerobatics

[Tommy Waymack via KRnet]

During STC testing for radar pod on the wing of a Beech Bonanza B58,a
ballistic droge parachute was attached to the tail and an emergency door
release hinges installed so the test pilot could perform the spin tests and
never exceed tests required for approval of the radar pod on the
wing.Fortunately,the spin tests showed no issues that negatively affected
the flight characteristics.The chute was for safety back up in case of
spinning becoming unrecoverable,giving the pilot a chance to eject or
recover the spin.Tommy W.

On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 12:43 PM Bill Jacobs via KRnet 
wrote:

> Owen,
> Thanks for taking the time to reply in depth.
> It is much appreciated.Regards,
> Bill Jacobs Daytona Beach, Fl.
>
> On Friday, October 12, 2018, 1:00:51 PM EDT, svd via KRnet <
> krnet@list.krnet.org> wrote:
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>
> Hi Stef,
>
> One issue to resolve for yourself before aerobatics in your KR would be
> spins...
>
>
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Re: KR> Professionlly molded fiberglas single seat conversion

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What does it weight?Tommy W.

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Re: KR> Ellison EFS-2 Diaphragm

[Tommy Waymack via KRnet]

Bought one from my mower guy.Tillotson must be common.No number given.Less
than $10.Worked well


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> I've got an Ellison EFS-2 that I need to find a diaphragm/gasket set for.
> I know the EFS-3 uses a lawn mower diaphragm; does anyone have a part
> number or know what lawn mower they borrowed from for the EFS-2?
>
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Re: KR> Dick Collins

[Tommy Waymack via KRnet]

Got to work on his 172 in Little Rock when I was beginning my avionics
career in the 70's.He was always looking for ways to improve the panel and
equipment in the cockpit.Reminds me of the people in the KR community.Tommy
W.

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> He was one of those people who have always been there, somewhere, and
> give the impression they are somehow permanent.
>
> Guess not.
>
> My favorite quote of his:
>
> "To me, dealing with inclement weather in light airplanes is one of the
> most interesting things that a pilot can do.”
>
> Richard Collins
> 1933 - 4/29/2018
> 
> He Transformed His Gut With One Thing
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Re: KR> Who has installed an Dynon AOA probe on their KR?

[Tommy Waymack via KRnet]

Not to discourage anyone from trying just have to disclose this. Saw a
video the other day with General Yeager strapping into a fighter for a
ride. The young pilot was giving him a preflight brief, pointed out the AOA
indicator.His response was that is a useless instrument,if you don't know
what your angle of attack is you don't need to be flying. Please don't
think he or I am against instrumentation.The pilot is responsible for
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>
>
> Although I haven't installed an Angle of Attack indicator, I do own two
> of them, and from those instructions and others that I've read, the
> calibration is pretty much a trial and error affair g to work properly.
> Mark Langford, Harvest, AL
> 
>
> Remember, the AOA instrument does not change the flight physics of the
> aircraft, it just provides information.  I'm sure the SR22 that augured in
> at our airport a year or so back while performing and engine out approach
> on a BFR, killing the pilot and nearly so the instructor,  was equipped
> with an AOA instrumentation.
>
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Re: KR> finally a flight

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This is my guess with no real evidence to prove or disprove it. Before the
overhaul the engine required more throttle and fuel to develop the same
power after overhaul. The engine is doing more work with less effort
keeping cooler while operating more efficiently.Tommy W.


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On Sat, Feb 3, 2018 at 8:55 AM, Flesner via KRnet 
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>
>
> With all the nasty winter weather, fighting a case of pneumonia, and
> schedule conflicts, I finally got a flight in the KR yesterday, the first
> since Christmas morning.  With a layoff like that I forget what a nice
> flyer it is and how much I hate putting it back in the hangar when the
> flight is over.  On takeoff the last 1/4 throttle makes my KR surge forward
> with such acceleration that it presses me to my seat.  WOW !!!  The density
> altitude was -2450 feet.  I had to climb 3250 feet to get to pattern
> altitude. :-)
>
> My one concern on the flight is the cold temps.  I had the engine warmed
> to toasty hot before the flight with preheat so the start was uneventful.
> My concern was it flight the oil temp and CHT ran much too cool.  My oil
> temp is usually 200F after 20 minutes of flight and the pressure holds at
> 42 pounds at cruise.  Yesterday, temps approx. 30 F, the oil temp hardly
> moved off the 120F peg on the meter, CHT was 275F in cruise, and dropped to
> near 200F with power reduction in the pattern.  With the oil so cool the
> pressure was running at least 15 pounds higher then normal, still below red
> line.  It wouldn't surprise me if the oil temp came down from the preheat.
> I'm not comfortable running the engine that cool.  I may have to somehow
> restrict the air inlets in this kind of weather. The thing is I don't
> recall seeing this in the past winter flying before the engine rebuild.  It
> always ran cooler but I don't recall it ever running that cold.  With the
> oil temp cool and the pressure above normal I trust the gauges are
> accurate.  I guess this concern is better than trying to cool things down.
>
> Larry Flesner
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Re: KR> KRnet Digest, Vol 6, Issue 12

[Tommy Waymack via KRnet]

The designer of the KR2 listed the never exceed speed as 160 mph without
balanced ailerons,200mph with balanced ailerons.175 knots is about 200 mph.
Never exceed speed would be the speed at sea level on a standard
day,29.92hg at a temperature I don't remember. The more altitude means
lower indicated airspeed but the true airspeed is greater than indicated.
Never exceed speed is the true airspeed of the plane not indicated.My
explanation is not as good as the one you will find in the RV sight but you
get the idea. Flying our experimental aircraft is just that
experimental.Ignore the design info at your own risk.Control surface
flutter is a function of true airspeed not indicated.And remember,anything
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On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 5:28 PM, Jeff Scott via KRnet 
wrote:

>
> Robert,
>
> Yours would not be the first KR to shed an aileron weight at speed.  We've
> seen that before at the KR Gathering in Red Oak back in 2003.  The Aluminum
> angle typically used to mount the aileron counterweight is subject to
> fatigue, and can fail at the bend causing it to drop the counterweight.
> Just missing the counterweight at speed can be enough to cause the aileron
> to go into flutter.  Your witness seems to confirm what I suspected when I
> first read this account; that the counterweight mount may have failed
> dropping the counterweight and inducing aileron flutter.  It was
> recommended at the time to consider either replacing the aluminum angle
> with a 4130 steel angle bracket, or find a way to stiffen or brace the
> aluminum mount to prevent fatigue of the aluminum angle.
>
> -Jeff Scott
> Cherokee Village, AR
> --
>
> Cc: "robert gill" 
> Subject: Re: KR> KRnet Digest, Vol 6, Issue 12
> Robert Gill
>
> 
>  but a witness has told me the saw something small fall off the plane just
> before it happened traveling at the same speed, can only assume it was the
> mass balance as one is missing (from the still attached aileron).
>
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Re: KR> FW: [Rand Robinson KR-2S Aircraft] Hi all, lived to tell this tale, thought I would...

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Too bad you didn't buy a lottery ticket that day .It may have been the
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On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 9:11 AM, Flesner via KRnet 
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> Robert,  Which Wing did you have on your KR-2s the original or the new
>> design?
>> Paul Visk Belleville Il 618-406-4705
>> 
>> 
>>
>
> And was it standard length or extended?
>
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Re: KR> Gaston's?

[Tommy Waymack via KRnet]

Check out youtube for the flight into Gastons.

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> 2,500 ' runway. At least 50' wide. I haven't flown into Gaston's but a KR
> should handle that okay.
>
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Ken Hurley
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>
> On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 7:52 AM, Flesner via KRnet 
> wrote:
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> > On 12/3/2017 9:01 PM, Jeff Scott via KRnet wrote:
> >
> >> Gaston's 58 NM away.  I intend to check it out in the near future.
> >> -Jeff Scott
> >> Cherokee Village, AR
> >>
> >> +
> >
> > I was in there in the Tripacer but it's been 15 years ago now.  Neat
> place
> > to fly in to.  Not for the weak of heart but very easily done.  The
> > approach was to follow the river on a left base as I recall and then
> > through the break in the trees on short final.  I recall the strip was
> > quite smooth except for a couple of long "ripples" at the lift off point.
> > It was no problem for three "heavies" in the Tripacer.
> >
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Re: KR> Switch needed

[Tommy Waymack via KRnet]

Sounds like you can use the switch to actuate relays for more current
capability.

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> Stef wrote:
>
> > Somebody out there who has a good idea about switches in the stick. We
> already
> > have a PTT switch in it, but we are thinking about the prop pitch
> switch. We are
> > thinking about this one
> > http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/elpages/cag11-14198.
> php?clickkey=4721494.
> > ( cag Cooley hat 4 way)  it has  a trim also up and down, the wing trim
> I can
> > use for the prop.
>
> That little trim switch probably can't handle the current that a prop
> pitch servo would use.  I'd see what other aircraft are using to switch
> that kind of current, and perhaps mount it on the panel if necessary.
> Amps matterespecially when it's on a critical system like this.
> Relays may be possible however, depending on what kind of signal the
> servo is expecting.  Maybe more info is required
>
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Re: KR> Gaston's?

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Jim Gaston used to say "It doesn't cost any more to go 1st class".

On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 7:52 AM, Flesner via KRnet 
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> On 12/3/2017 9:01 PM, Jeff Scott via KRnet wrote:
>
>> Gaston's 58 NM away.  I intend to check it out in the near future.
>> -Jeff Scott
>> Cherokee Village, AR
>>
>> +
>
> I was in there in the Tripacer but it's been 15 years ago now.  Neat place
> to fly in to.  Not for the weak of heart but very easily done.  The
> approach was to follow the river on a left base as I recall and then
> through the break in the trees on short final.  I recall the strip was
> quite smooth except for a couple of long "ripples" at the lift off point.
> It was no problem for three "heavies" in the Tripacer.
>
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Re: KR> krnet

[Tommy Waymack via KRnet]

Thanks for the heads up found it in the spam section. my bad.Tommy W.


On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 11:23 AM, Flesner via KRnet 
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> On 11/22/2017 9:43 AM, Tommy Waymack via KRnet wrote:
>
>> What happened to the krnetlist. not receiving the list.Tommy W
>>
>> 
>
> I'm getting it.
>
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KR> krnet

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What happened to the krnetlist. not receiving the list.Tommy W


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Re: KR> Trim Tabs

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Some are so sensitive you can change trim by moving your body.Trim tabs are
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On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 11:12 PM, Pierre Douglas via KRnet <
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> Hi Joe,
>
> In mine the up elevator reason was nose heavy due to nose gear and thus CG
> a bit too far forward.
> If you've built the tail fin for a counter clockwise engine you will need
> slight right rudder till you've gained speed and your slightly skew off-set
> (+/- 1/2" L/E bottom to top and T/E) tail fin take control. If your tail
> fin was built neutral then you will need a lot more rudder all the way
> through.
>
> Can't think of any other reasons and I may have the directions wrong:-)
> It's been awhile since I saw my KR:-(
>
> Cheers,
> Pierre
>
> >
> > > Subject: KR> Trim Tabs
> > > Message-ID: <5947f14a.04ed0d0a.cc627.0...@mx.google.com>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> >
> > > Dear Aviators,
> > > I find that i require significant trim tabs. ?Did i miss align
> > something? ?Is there something that i can do? Is this normal?
> > > Significant up elevator and some right rudder for comfortable flight at
> > 120mph. ?
> > > Joe Nunley?Baker Florida?
> >
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Re: KR> major success!!

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On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 9:25 PM, Larry Flesner via KRnet <
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> At 09:03 PM 5/23/2017, you wrote:
>
>> Larry, did you put sealant on the case halves at the bosses around the
>> crankshaft where your main bearings are?
>> Brian Kraut
>>
> 
>
> If you are referring to the area that the "through bolts" got through the
> case and act as a cylinder base stud for two of the cylinders, the answer
> is yes.  I used light amount of sealant and a double silk thread.  It would
> seem if that was the leak it would appear on both sides of the case, not
> just #4 cylinder.  I did my best to insure the square "O" ring was seated
> good on the cylinder base.  It's not a bad leak but I see evidence of oil
> half way around the cylinder base with maybe a half drop on the lower
> bolt.  I'll be zeroing in on that and other leaks as the flights continue.
>
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Re: KR> todays flight

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That much oil will be a clue to the problem.Next question is it coming from
an existing orifice such as exhaust,breather tube or even intake.Rings
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On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 9:14 PM, brian.kraut--- via KRnet <
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> It is particularly useful on aircraft engines because you have all the
> air blowing across the engine so you wind up with oil over everything so
> it is impossible to pinpoint the origin point.  Put in the dye and run
> it just a few minutes and look and you can find the origin point before
> it has had a chance to get all over the place.  The dyes also work great
> for coolant system leaks in your car, brake and transmission fluid, etc.
>  I did a demo for our EAA chapter once so played with it on a lot of
> different things first to get pictures.  I just got a cheapie kit at the
> auto parts store.
>
> Brian Kraut
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>
>
>  Original Message 
> Subject: Re: KR> todays flight
> From: Tony King via KRnet 
> Date: Tue, May 23, 2017 4:15 pm
> To: KRnet 
> Cc: Tony King 
>
> Now that's a neat idea! Hadn't come across that before. Gonna try that
> on
> my O-200 (which doesn't lose much but always puts a smear of oil down
> the
> side of the aircraft after 20 or 30 minutes of flight).
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KR> Magneto noise in com audio

[Tommy Waymack via KRnet]

Recently talked about having mag noise in my com audio and got some good
feed back.Well FOUND IT. With out going through a lot of detail lets just
say troubleshooting was my life as a technician and Murphy was there making
my day.
 Started at the magneto p lead.There were 2 unshielded wires,one one the p
lead and one on the ground connection.The mag switch had the shielded wire
and shield ground.Traced the wires from the mag and found the connection to
the shielded wire inside the cockpit just forward of the instrument
panel.And if that wasn't bad enough,the p lead was connected to the shield.
The switch worked fine but the p lead was radiating through the shield as
an antenna might. Replaced the entire p lead with a new shielded wire from
front to back. The moral of this story is never take anything for
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KR> o200 cylinders in tulsa

[Tommy Waymack via KRnet]

My guy in pine bluff has 6 cylinders in tulsa with Brown and he is having
the same issue.No one is answering the phone.The weather has been really
bad in OK These folks are very reputable and it indicates there may be
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Re: KR> VW Type 1 "DRD Racing" head reliability

[Tommy Waymack via KRnet]

Thanks for that exhaustive description of the VW head problem.It did help
explain a lot of the issues dealt with last year with my gpas heads.I do
still think Steve sold good products and his insight was second to
none.Miss him.The cracks between the heads gave me a lot of anxiety.I was
sure they needed replacement.A thousand bucks was more than my retirement
pension could afford,so I did the only thing I could.Cleaned them
up,inspected,ground the valves,lapped the seats,and reassembled with the
knowledge that I would not let anyone else operate my plane but me.Needless
to say,I was shocked to find out the engine has good compression,runs
better than it ever has,and will haul my dumba-s to the next
gathering.Tommy W.

On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 8:01 AM, n357cj via KRnet 
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> Mark,
> I think that Larry has a worn out 0-200 he may want to part with ;-)
> Joe
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "KRnet" 
> To: "KRnet" 
> Cc: "Mark Langford" 
> Sent: Friday, April 28, 2017 8:05:08 AM
> Subject: KR> VW Type 1 "DRD Racing" head reliability
>
> Those of you with any kind of short term memory remaining will recall
> that I took a serious look at Type 1 head cooling last year, in an
> effort to find some heads that had sufficient air passages to keep the
> VW Type 1 heads cool in a KR2.  I settled on DRD Racing heads, which
> have some very generous air passages, and should cool much better than
> my previous heads.  At the end of that article I said I'd let you know
> how it worked out, but it has NOT been a smashing success.  See the
> "UPDATE" about halfway down the page at http://www.n56ml.com/n891jf/vw/
> for more...
> --
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Re: KR> Has it really been that quiet?

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In some cases it might.The noise I have totally disappears by turning the
mag off.I moved the com coax aft of the instrument panel because it was
tied into the bundle with the p-lead from the mag.Thought that would
help.No joy.Next I will substitute the antenna with a rubber ducky right
off the radio[KX-99 handheld].Then I can eliminate the intercom/radio
wiring with a straight in set of jacks that came with the radio.We will see
what happens.Tommy W.

On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 4:12 PM, Paul Visk via KRnet 
wrote:

> Someone on CorvAircraft had radio noise. All they did was add a ground
> strap straight from the engine to the battery.  Could it be that simple? 🤔
>
> Paul Visk Belleville Il.
> 618-406-4705Father of an Eagle Scout
>  Original message --
> Now the mag noise in the com radio is next.Will determine if it is antenna
> or audiosystem related, wish me luck.Tommy W.
>
> >
> > Gary Wold
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Re: KR> Has it really been that quiet?

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Got N995BG in good shape.Changed the tach from westach analog mag driven to
flight data T-30 digital tach. Big improvement.Unit has flight timer,tach
timer, and connects to the magneto as well as the electronic ignition. It
will warn the pilot of an ignition failure,and can warn the pilot of an
over rev condition by programming the rpm you want. Got the 3rd class
medical renewed after it became obvious basic med was no advantage for me.I
even installed the ELT panel control for the Ameri-king ELT. Phone cord
from Lowes was wired ass backwards,but I cut it and made the proper
connections.Works fine hope I never need it.Changed the memory battery in
the panel mount Garmin GPS 100.Early unit but works well and with the old
data base is good for day time VFR unless the airports have moved.Now the
mag noise in the com radio is next.Will determine if it is antenna or audio
system related, wish me luck.Tommy W.

On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 9:24 AM, Gary Wold via KRnet 
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> Good to know it's not my computer settings.
>
>
> Gary Wold
> EAA Lifetime member
> Eagle Scout
>
> -Original Message-
> From: KRnet [mailto:krnet-boun...@list.krnet.org] On Behalf Of Christopher
> Pryce via KRnet
> Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 8:22 AM
> To: KRnet
> Cc: Christopher Pryce
> Subject: Re: KR> Has it really been that quiet?
>
> The weather has warmed up here.  I've been spending let's time on the
> computer and more time in the garage. I have started building my left wing.
> Anybody else have progress updates?
>
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Re: KR> landin gear

[Tommy Waymack via KRnet]

Probably not strong enough for the loads.The glass would cover up any
faults developing in the structure before failure.Tommy W.

On Sat, Apr 1, 2017 at 9:54 PM, Robert Russell via KRnet <
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> Just another crazy question, this time about landing gear. Has anyone
> tried or thought about laminated wooden gear sandwiched or covered with
> fiberglass?
> It is just a thought that crossed my mind. I don't know if it makes any
> sense or would be strong enough but thought I would throw it out there for
> discussion.
> Bob R
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Re: KR> Pushrod Tube Preferences?

[Tommy Waymack via KRnet]

I've had best results with the stock tubes. Inspect them for damage,replace
the questionable ones and use new seals.My engine does not leak oil and
holds up well.Tommy W.

On Sat, Apr 1, 2017 at 3:55 PM, bjoenunley via KRnet 
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> I have the spring loaded pushrod tubes in my VW and one of them leaks.
>
>
> Joe Nunley Baker Florida
>
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KR> Mode C requirements for gathering

[Tommy Waymack via KRnet]

Hope not to cause any big concern,but just curious about the mode c ring
around Lees Summit's airport.It would indicate a need for mode c equipment
in that airspace.Will we be able to fudge on that requirement and enter
from the southern edge?I know Rob has already given that some thought and
the locals have dealt with it.No answer is needed if it causes a
problem.I'm coming anyway.Tommy W.
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Re: KR> fire in the engine compartment video link enclosed

[Tommy Waymack via KRnet]

Good video.Reminds me of the time I saw fuel running down the passenger
window in a 182.And oh yeah,the fuel running on to my boot in the tcraft.
Thanks for the reminder. The video has a lot of things we don't think about
until it is too late.Tommy W.

On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 8:41 PM, Mark Langford via KRnet <
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> It's been quiet today, so I'll throw this out.  See link below for a video
> that gave me a lot of tips I'd never thought of if a fire erupted in the
> engine compartment...
>
> http://www.pilotworkshop.com/rod/emergencies-video
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Re: KR> 2017

[Tommy Waymack via KRnet]

Flight physical tomorrow.all is well.See you in September.Tommy W.

On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 9:18 AM, Ken Hurley via KRnet 
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> Thanks Rob. See you in September.
>
> On Feb 28, 2017 8:58 AM, "donald january via KRnet" 
> wrote:
>
> > 👍👍👌
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 7:40 AM, Rob Schmitt via KRnet <
> > krnet@list.krnet.org
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > Ken,
> > >
> > > All is on track for the 2017 KR Gathering in Lee's Summit MO (LXT).  No
> > > change to the dates - September 21 - 24.  The caterer is reserved for
> the
> > > Banquet. The airport manager and city are notified and very supportive.
> > The
> > > EAA Chapter 91 is ready to help me host. Several KR folks are on board
> to
> > > help me with coordinating and working the event. Certainly lots of
> > details
> > > to work out, but we are on track.
> > >
> > > I've sent a note to John B. for help on updating the web page to
> provide
> > > more details and so we can start registering.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Rob Schmitt
> > > N1852Z
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: KRnet [mailto:krnet-boun...@list.krnet.org] On Behalf Of Ken
> > Hurley
> > > via KRnet
> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 5:15 AM
> > > To: KRnet 
> > > Cc: Ken Hurley 
> > > Subject: KR> 2017
> > >
> > > Any updates on the gathering?
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Re: KR> Mole tail?

[Tommy Waymack via KRnet]

Jeff,Thanks for that report. That is a good real world explanation for
those of us with less smarts.The difference in speed  and pressure is
interesting.Tommy W.

On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 9:05 AM, Jeff Scott via KRnet 
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>
>
>
>
> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 at 5:19 AM
> From: "Mark Langford via KRnet" 
> To: KRnet 
> Cc: m...@n56ml.com
> Subject: Re: KR> Mole tail?
> Larry Flesner wrote:
>
> > I'm not sure if I understand all I know about the "Mole" tail. If I
> > read correctly he states that these "tabs" help to "increase" the
> > stick force per G (it takes a stronger pull on the stick to
> > accomplish a given G load). It seems to me they would "lighten" the
> > stick force per G. As you pull back on the stick, the elevator moves
> > up, and the tabs move down in to the air stream to lighten the load
> > on the stick, much like a trim tab.
>
> I thought the same thing at the time he came out with this, as those
> tabs are typically called "aerodynamic balances". But he's the
> aerodynamicist, not me. Somebody needs to make this change to an
> already-flying KR2 and report back on the difference.
>
> Mark Langford, Harvest, AL
>
> 
>
> I did make those changes to a flying KR... 12 years ago in 2005, and
> reported back.   The feedback I got was a few
> remarks directed at my apparent lack of pilot skills and ignorance about
> aircraft design, and the implied need to make my KR handle like a truck.  I
> flew 500 hrs with the old tail.  Now 650 hrs with the new tail.  The
> impression I got back from the KRNet folks was that I had insulted those
> that had built to plans by doing something different and was somehow
> calling all their babies ugly.
>
> I will say, the elevator does load up at speed to the point of being
> comparatively heavy.  Gives it much more of an RV type feel at speed.  That
> is a nice feature as it makes the handling at speed very smooth and keeps
> one from over-controlling at a speed that could cause some serious
> problems. The elevator is still quite light at low speeds, but has a lot
> more feel to it than the previous tail.
>
> -Jeff Scott
> Los Alamos, NM
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Re: KR> Insurance for a KR-2

[Tommy Waymack via KRnet]

Hull insurance is pricey.I'm guessing most KR people do not op for that
coverage since any damage will be repaired by themselves.Those fortunate to
be able to buy rather than build may be in the minority.I'm glad to know
the KR is finally getting that kind of recognition.They have been under
valued for to long.Tommy W.

On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 9:44 AM, brian.kraut--- via KRnet <
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> Depends a lot on your total time and tailwheel time.  You will also get
> vastly different quotes from different insurance companies.  Some give
> good prices on some models, but bad on others.  I highly recommend
> calling Scott at Skysmith Insurance.  He works with a lot of
> underwriters and does a lot with experimentals.
>
> Brian Kraut
> 904-536-1780
> br...@eamanuacturing.com
>
>
>
>  Original Message 
> Subject: KR> Insurance for a KR-2
> From: Dan via KRnet 
> Date: Tue, February 07, 2017 8:18 am
> To: "'KRnet'" 
> Cc: Dan 
>
> I was/am looking to buy or eventually build a KR-2S so I called for an
> insurance quote. The quote at just over $2000 was double the rate of my
> current experimental tail dragger. My current insurer's quote came in at
> more than triple what I am paying them now. Quotes are with the same
> hull value that I currently have. I expected it to be a little higher
> but this seems excessive. If I go this route I may have to go without
> insurance for a while but my wife is not excited about that.
>
> This may change my plans but has me wondering if there are a lot of KR-2
> accidents or are there a lot of KR-2's that are simply not insured?
>
> Thanks,
> Dan LaFon
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Re: KR> 4-into-1 exhaust system help?

[Tommy Waymack via KRnet]

Mark I feel your pain.Last years inspection revealed similar issues related
to rust[mild steel].Only one pipe was rusted thru but  we know what that
means.Revmaster will make me another one in 30 days for $510 and I would do
that in a heartbeat If it weren't for retirement.I bowed up and used some
mandral bent pieces left over from an intake project.Welded up the
offending pipe and I'm in the air again.I have not seen anything but the
4-1 with offset offered in quite a while.GPAS and Revmaster may get theirs
the same place.The area around the collector was a challenge but
doable.Repair will get you flying and buy some time for better fix.Tommy W.

On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 11:49 PM, Wayne Baker via KRnet <
krnet@list.krnet.org> wrote:

> I have a Revmaster 2100 for sale with a 4/
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jan 22, 2017, at 7:29 PM, Mark Langford via KRnet <
> krnet@list.krnet.org> wrote:
> >
> > Chris Gardiner wrote:
> >
> > > Approx,. 9 3/4 to 10 inches vertically from bottom of engine pan to
> bottom of collector joint.
> >
> > Thanks for that and all the photos you sent Chris, and to John Bouyea as
> well.  Those make it pretty clear that the intake path has to be reworked,
> the carb moved, and the cowling reworked, if I put a Revmaster in place of
> the GP system. And it's still a gamble buying the GP Tri-gear, because it's
> a completely different layout than what's on the plane now.   It would
> probably be easier and quicker to weld up my own exhaust system, especially
> if you consider delaying a week on UPS to get started, only to find out
> neither the Revmaster nor GP will fit.  I have the perfect go-by sitting on
> the bench...just need to order some tubing, a collector, and some flanges.
> >
> > I've built two exhaust systems for the Corvair, the last one out of 321
> stainless, and complained the whole time because it wasn't easy and took
> forever, but it's starting to look more attractive.  KR2's going to be down
> for a while!
> >
> > The two enclosed photos are a reminder to check your exhaust system. The
> multi-crack photo is mirrored on the other side of the pipe, so the whole
> thing was about the break in half.  The pipe is right at the flange and the
> bend focuses a lot of heat on the steel, which was eroded down to near
> razor-thin. This leak was inaudible.  The "big break" was obvious, but not
> "log-truck loud", as we say in Alabama.  That photo shows why I can't get
> in there to weld the inside...the exhaust gas would just come out
> V...towards the carburetor.  Not good, to coin a phrase...
> >
> > Mark Langford
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> >
> > <170121_102m.jpg>
> > <170121_109m.jpg>
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Re: KR> Fuel header tank

[Tommy Waymack via KRnet]

N995BG has 24 gal. header tank[Rand
Robinson original fiberglass]Still flying after 27 years.Do I think safety
is a good thing? You bet I do.Weight and balance is not an issue with
proper distribution of airplane parts.My trim indicator runs in the middle
with 15 gallons.With full fuel I was able to make the flight from Cross
City FL to Pine Bluff,AR in 5hrs.17 mins.The estimated range was 6 hrs. at
the time.15 gallons is all I keep in the plane at any one time.Fly safe and
keep building.Tommy W.

On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 9:55 AM, n357cj via KRnet 
wrote:

> Hi Deon,
> I have a KR-2s with a 12 gal. header tank and am currently building
> another that I retained the same idea but in a slightly smaller form of 7.5
> gal. My theory is that gravity never quits so fuel flow would never quit.
> Having said that the KR2 is much more pitch sensitive. During any cross
> country flight I probably only adjust trim one time as the fuel is burned
> off the header tank and it is really not an issue for the 2s stability. The
> other main issue is safety which is up to any one persons own tolerance. I
> personally have a fiberglass header tank and the plan is not to break it.
> That is not good enough for many good men. You have an aluminum tank which
> may or may not be stronger and less resistant to a rupture. Another down
> side to wing only is the fuel line and pump layout and operations.
> Having mentioned all these items I would likely put in wing tanks and
> ditch the header. I do not know what stag of completion the plane is in but
> maybe adding to the fuselage length is an option. It would be a far safer
> airplane by all accounts.
> Joe Horotn,
> N357cj
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "KRnet" 
> To: "KRnet" 
> Cc: "Deon-tsrc" 
> Sent: Monday, January 16, 2017 10:13:42 AM
> Subject: KR> Fuel header tank
>
> Hi Guys
>
> The partial KR2 (original design) I have bought is fitted with an
> aluminum fuel tank in front of the instrument panel. From the
> information I have available this is not a good idea (shift of CoG, fire
> danger etc.)
>
> Would you advise that I ditch this and create wing tanks? Given all the
> ho-ha about CoG issues I am not sure I will be able to pass inspection
> with this tank in place!
>
> This is a big step for me so some advice would be appreciated.
>
> Regards
>
> Deon
>
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Re: KR> flight / overhaul

[Tommy Waymack via KRnet]

I used to rebuild  Continetal and Lycoming engines back in the day and I
was amazed that the vast majority of crankshafts showed little or no wear
after first TBO.Nitrited cranks are almost totally resistant to normal wear.
Bent flanges are the biggest reason for crank rejection.Don't worry be
happy.It's that 800 dollar cam and 63 dollar lifters that are going to be
hard to swallow.Tommy W.

On Fri, Dec 30, 2016 at 9:54 PM, Larry Flesner via KRnet <
krnet@list.krnet.org> wrote:

> At 08:28 PM 12/30/2016, you wrote:
>
>> how much would a bad crank cost to replace, larry?
>>
> 
>
> I've not researched the cost or availability of a used crank but new crank
> is in the $4000 range. :-(
>
>
> Larry Flesner
>
>
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KR> Thanks to sponsors

[Tommy Waymack]

Just want to thank my sponsors who made my trip possible[gas money]Mark
Langford,Terry Chizek,and John Shaffer.Terry and John bought the spark
plugs,John and Mark bought the KR gathering VHS tapes.Thanks again to
them.Let's hope that those tapes can be changed to digital and made
available to the KR  community.Tommy W.

KR> FW: 1 NEW: marvel schebler ma3-spa 10-4894. Off topic???

[Tommy Waymack]

Mine is an Ellison EFS-2,No longer in production but still one of the best
if you can find one,Tommy W,

On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 8:08 PM, Robert7721 via KRnet 
wrote:

> I run a Revflow as well on my Revmaster 2100D.  It is a size 32mm if I
> recall correctly.
>
>
> Rob Schmitt
> N1852Z
> www.robert7721.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: sparksfly2ms--- via KRnet 
> To: KRnet 
> Cc: sparksfly2ms 
> Sent: Wed, Sep 7, 2016 2:30 pm
> Subject: Re: KR> FW: 1 NEW: marvel schebler ma3-spa 10-4894. Off topic???
>
> Revflow from Revmaster Aviation. Very good.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from Windows Mail
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Doran Jaffas via KRnet
> Sent: ?Wednesday?, ?September? ?7?, ?2016 ?11?:?13? ?AM
> To: KRnet
> Cc: Doran Jaffas
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi everyone.
>   I just recieved a Revmaster 2100D today. The engine appears to be in
> excellent condition. I am wondering if any of you fly with this motor and
> if so what carb and size do you use??
>   Thank You.
> Doran
> On Sep 7, 2016 6:41 AM, "Daniel Heath via KRnet" 
> wrote:
>
> > In case you are looking for one of these
> >
> >
> >
> > My Panther Building Documentation at PantherBuilder Web Site <
> > http://pantherbuilder.org/>
> >
> >
> >
> > Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Used.$102.50 + $20.00 shipping. MARVEL SCHEBLER CARBURETOR CORE 10-4894-1
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KR> 14mm shielded spark plugs

[Tommy Waymack]

I found some similar plugs while rumageing through my shop.Will bring them
to the gathering should I get the chance.Still in cosmoline.Tommy W.

On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 11:08 AM, Jeff Scott via KRnet 
wrote:

>
>
> I don't know if any of you VW guys are using a magneto with shielded plugs
> anymore, but I seem to have run across an inventory of 14MM shielded spark
> plugs and would appreciate any help some of you might be able to provide in
> identifying these plugs and and identifying whether they are useful for any
> of the aero VW applications.
>
> The plugs I found are all new old stock Champion XEH-10, XEJ-11, XEF-14Y,
> and XMJ-17.  The XMJ-17 plugs also have a second number MS35909-2. The
> XMJ-17 was a shielded plug for a military Willys Jeep, and some of the
> others are identified as military use for air cooled Wisconson V-4 engines
> that were used in the military.  What I don't know is if these had any
> application for the Aero VW engines, or possibly in the Franklin engines.
> If they do, I'll be happy to pass them on for what they cost me to buy,
> which isn't much.
>
> -Jeff Scott
> Los Alamos, NM
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KR> KR2 world tour.

[Tommy Waymack]

Way to go Colin.The guy is a new age Lindbergh.Tommy W.

On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 6:11 PM, Paul Visk via KRnet 
wrote:

>
>
> krii worldtour
>
>
> Paul Visk Belleville IL  618 406 4705
> Sent on the new Sprint Network from my Samsung Galaxy S?4
>
>  Original message 
> From: sparksfly2ms--- via KRnet 
> Date: 09/01/2016  5:17 PM  (GMT-06:00)
> To: KRnet 
> Cc: sparksfly2ms at cox.net
> Subject: Re: KR> KR2 world tour.
>
> Yep, watching him on facebook;
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from Windows Mail
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Mac McConnell-Wood via KRnet
> Sent: ?Thursday?, ?September? ?1?, ?2016 ?3?:?01? ?PM
> To: KRnet
> Cc: Mac McConnell-Wood
>
>
>
>
>
> Anyone following Colin Hales world tour?
>
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KR> Landing Gear legs

[Tommy Waymack]

With extensive mods all bets are off.Good luck.Both options are good.Tommy W

On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 9:11 PM, Global Solutions via KRnet <
krnet at list.krnet.org> wrote:

> Hi Folks
> I was looking in to the landing gear for a Kr2S. The boat is going to be
> 6" wider then the stock plans.
> I was looking at the NVaero site and they have the castings for the Deli
> gear which because they have no picture I am guessing I would still need to
> make the actual legs. they also do not specify if the castings they sell
> are priced each or for the pair.
> I then came across this which is made from Material: 7075-T6 Aluminum
> KR2 One Piece Landing Gear
> The airport I have access to for the moment is a grass strip and I was
> thinking the aluminum may act as a bit of a shock suppressor and may be
> lighter then the wood/glass that others have used.
> Would I be ahead to bend something like this in the press brake or go the
> Deli Gear route?
>
> Also I was thinking of going with MATCO brakes as per NVAERO or am I
> better off with Cleveland or some other brand. I also noted on Mark
> Landfords site that he played with wheel sizes. What is the overall
> consences with respect to tire size?
>
> Thanks
> Stan
>
>
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KR> ADS-B BendixKing by Honeywell

[Tommy Waymack]

 "Someone" does make an all in one unit but I don't believe it will be
going in  a KR.The reason a milti box approach is used is so that the
system can be changed without large out lays of funds at any one
time.Standard catergory IFR aircraft are the basis of avionics
developement.Have not seen any GNS-430's in KRs yet.Tommy W.

On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 8:59 AM, Larry via KRnet 
wrote:

> I noticed that no one seems to have one piece of equipment that will do it
> all. As you say, each separate piece that is needed to make a complete
> system really adds up. I wanted to yell at the king guys I talked to
> because they act like buying multiple pieces is no big deal!!
> I will bet someone will build a cheaper single box that will do it all and
> kick everyone's butt!!
> A big push was on at Oshkosh to allow non certified equipment and owner
> installed equipment in certified aircraft that may be better than certified.
> The bureaucrats in the FAA are in such a state of cover ass, slow
> development down because of their laziness or whatever it is that it takes
> forever for already outdated technology to show up for sale to the public.
> If I were King for a day!!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Aug 3, 2016, at 8:44 AM, Jeff Scott via KRnet 
> wrote:
> >
> > This is a perfect example of some of the somewhat deceptive advertising
> I have been seeing.  You will note that you get a to pay $3500 for a Mode-S
> transponder that is touted as ADS-B Out "SOLVED".  But what is less than
> obvious is that the Transponder does NOT have a WAAS GPS Position source.
> If you happen to have a WAAS enabled Garmin GTN/GNS system to front end the
> transponder as a position source, you're in luck.  If you don't, well, for
> another $15,000, they can fix you right up.
> >
> > This is virtually identical to the unit I looked at from Sandia
> Aerospace for the same price, except that the Sandia unit also had ADS-B
> in, a traffic display on the front panel, and WiFi to talk to your GPS.
> But you still need to buy a high end WAAS enabled Garmin device to front
> end it. (read $)
> >
> > When reading the ads for ADS-B Out, you have to look to see what isn't
> in the ad.
> >
> > -Jeff Scott
> > Los Alamos, NM
> >
> > ---
> >
> > Subject: KR> ADS-B BendixKing by Honeywell
> > Here is some information that might help your research. If you need a
> transponder this King might be a good way to go.
> >
> >
> http://www.bendixking.com/Search-Results?searchtext=Ads-b&searchmode=anyword
> >
> > Larry H
> >
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KR> KR1 Project For Sale

[Tommy Waymack]

Good looking project.Wish I could start a new project.Have a local guy with
a KR2S in the same place of construction and he asked $1500.Considering the
landing gear and cleveland wheels and brakes are new.That is not out of
bounds for the 2 place version.A one seat version would not be as desirable
but very much a good choice.Tommy W.

On Sat, Jul 9, 2016 at 8:44 PM, Adrian Rogers via KRnet <
krnet at list.krnet.org> wrote:

> Hey Glenn, funny seeing your name/announcement in this email. I'm used to
> most posters being midwest to east coast flyers, but way to market the KR 1
> this way.
>
> Sent from the ultimate iPhone
>
> > On Jul 9, 2016, at 2:56 PM, Glen Wilcox via KRnet 
> wrote:
> >
> > EAA Chapter 723 in Southern California, near Los Angeles, has a project
> for
> > sale that will be put up for bid on eBay (our rules require open
> bidding.)
> >
> >
> >
> > The project consists of the boat, spars, and landing gear; only the
> > unfinished wood parts shown in the photos. The little jeep is not
> included.
> >
> >
> >
> > Since this is the expert community on all things KR, where should we set
> the
> > starting bid? When this listing is live, I will let this list know.
> Thanks.
> >
> >
> >
> > The photos are at http://tinyurl.com/KR1ForSale
> >
> >
> >
> > Glen Wilcox
> >
> >  818 991-6259
> >
> >
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KR> Cowling Air Scoop

[Tommy Waymack]

Sid,Had same issues with the 7500BTU cooler from GPAS so I bought another
7500BTU cooler and put them in series.Worked much better.They have a
15000BTU unit that would have done the trick but I was able to stack the 2
and may have saved a little space.Tommy W.

On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 7:30 AM, Bill Jacobs via KRnet  wrote:

> Hello Sid,I was wondering the same question as Leif?Is there a ratio of
> the areas?Thanks,Bill Jacobs Daytona Beach, Fl.
>
> On Thursday, June 30, 2016 3:58 AM, Leif G Alstads?ter via KRnet <
> krnet at list.krnet.org> wrote:
>
>
>  Hi Sid
> I just look at your photo of your cowling,
> I just wonder whats the area on the front opening for the inlet of air,
> compare to the area back of the cowling?
> Regard
> Leif
> NORWAY
>
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KR> VW Engines

[Tommy Waymack]

I guess after 26 years behind a VW,I was dumb to think it would be a good
choice.Tommy W.Never did land off airport.

On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 11:06 PM, Patrick Driscoll via KRnet <
krnet at list.krnet.org> wrote:

> Chris said: its not necessarily cheap but a KR is about as cheap as it
> gets. and I
> honestly have concluded that the VW can be acceptably reliable and
> easy / cheap to maintain.
>
> Please fellows, do not degrade the KR. The word to use is, "inexpensive".
> Patrick Driscoll
> Saint Paul, MN
> patrick36 at usfamily.net
> www.pensbypat.com
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KR> Axles?

[Tommy Waymack]

May need to upgrade to 3/4"axles and bearings.GPAS can help.Tommy W.

On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 8:33 PM, mark jones via KRnet 
wrote:

> Matt,
> I ordered mine from Great Plains Aircraft (GPASC) back in 1998 for $54.95
> for the kit. Contact then and ask for the 5/8" Pre Welded Axle Kit.
> Good Luck,
>
> Mark Jones (N886MJ)
> Dunedin, FL
>
>
> Mark Jones (N886MJ)
> Dunedin, FL
> flykr2s at gmail.com
> www.flykr2s.com
>
> On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 6:23 PM, Matt Quimby via KRnet <
> krnet at list.krnet.org
> > wrote:
>
> > Hey all, I?m working on swapping my original retractable gear for Diehl
> > gear, and I?m hoping to reuse the 5? Azusa wheels. Only problem is, I
> can?t
> > seem to find an axle for them. Is there a source for 5/8? axles that will
> > mount to the Diehl lower bracket, or do I have to get the O?Brien axle
> > setup? Thanks.
> >
> > -Matt
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KR> Question concerning Ellison Model 2 Carb on a HAPI VW engine

[Tommy Waymack]

Yes to all the above.I used a single nozzle in front of the carb located
under the engine[updraft].It worked ok,but I am in the process of
installing 2 points,one in each side on top of the engine.No data on this
yet.Fuel pressure seems adequate with fuel pump off in cruise but use boost
pump for take off and landing.

On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 9:36 PM, Mark Langford via KRnet <
krnet at list.krnet.org> wrote:

> Rene Ffrench wrote:
>
> Yes, you'll need a primer.  I have 3.5 psi feeding the carb.  The carb
> isn't supposed to flow unless it is receiving air, so primer is required to
> get it going.   I'm using a primer, and you'll  a primer in all but the
> warmest of conditions.  I ran an 1/8" copper tube from an electric primer
> solenoid to a T that splits to each side, and  at each head is another T,
> with a primer nozzle going to a fitting that I welded into each intake
> (total of four). Actually, I welded a piece of steel tubing into the
> manifolds and threaded it.
>
> Four nozzles may be overkill, but "real" airplane people are astounded
> that I can turn it over a couple of blades in freezing weather and it
> starts and runs smoothly!  There is a special primer fitting that AS&S (and
> likely Wicks) sells that has an orifice in it that sprays an atomized
> mist.  It also has a cone connection that must be silver soldered (not as
> hard as it sounds) to the copper tubing.  See
> http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/hapages/primerfittings.php?clickkey=3014828
> for all of this stuff, and I warn you that it is expensive.  You don't need
> everything in the photo, just the discharge nipple, the cone fitting, and
> retaining nut (AN-805).  Don't take my word for it though...investigate a
> little.  I've bought stuff that I didn't need, and it's all expensive.
>
> One benefit of this system is that if your engine suffers vapor lock in
> flight and starves for fuel, you can "pulse" the primer off and on to keep
> the engine running.  Been there, done that, glad it works...
>
> Mark Langford
> ML at N56ML.com
> http://www.n56ml.com
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KR> "blast from the past"

[Tommy Waymack]

Meant to say the 1992 gathering may have been Covington,Tn.

On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 10:01 AM, Tommy Waymack <5blindate at gmail.com> wrote:

> My memory has faded but 1993 was possibly Covington,Tn.1993 was the
> thirteenth and Don Cornwell went down on the south end approach at
> dark.There was normally 2 events at most venues.
>
> On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 8:39 PM, Virgil N. Salisbury via KRnet <
> krnet at list.krnet.org> wrote:
>
>>
>> Check with Video BOB, Virg
>>
>>
>>
>> On 6/20/2016 7:04 PM, Larry Flesner via KRnet wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> This is what I have so far.  Can anyone add, correct, or have any
>>> earlier dates?  If anyone has the "old newsletter" disk and wants to
>>> research, please do.  I've made every Gathering, including the two in
>>> 98, since 1990 except the Corona Gathering, but my memory is not as good
>>> as it was when I started my KR 25 years ago. :-(
>>>
>>> Larry Flesner
>>>
>>> KR Gatherings  - year and location
>>>
>>> 1989 - Covington, Tenn.
>>> 1990 - Rough River, Kentucky
>>> 1991 ? Kentucky Dam State Park
>>> 1992 ?
>>> 1993 - Covington, Tennessee
>>> 1994 ? Columbia, Tennessee
>>> 1995 ? Columbia, Tennessee
>>> 1996 ? Pine Bluff, Arkansas
>>> 1997 ? Perry, Oklahoma
>>> 1998 - Perry, Oklahoma   Columbia, TN "East Coast Gathering"
>>> 1999 ? Lake Barkley, Kentucky
>>> 2000 ? Lake Barkley, Kentucky
>>> 2001 - Pine Bluff, Arkansas
>>> 2002 - Red Oak, Iowa
>>> 2003 - Red Oak, Iowa
>>> 2004 - Mt.Vernon, Illinois
>>> 2005 - Mt.Vernon, Illinois
>>> 2006 - Mt.Vernon, Illinois
>>> 2007 - Mt.Vernon, Illinois
>>> 2008 - Mt.Vernon, Illinois
>>> 2009 - Mt.Vernon, Illinois
>>> 2010 - Richmond, Kentucky
>>> 2011 - Mt.Vernon, Illinois
>>> 2012 - Mt.Vernon, Illinois
>>> 2013 - Mt.Vernon, Illinois
>>> 2014 - Corona, California
>>> 2015 - McMinnville, Oregon
>>>
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KR> "blast from the past"

[Tommy Waymack]

My memory has faded but 1993 was possibly Covington,Tn.1993 was the
thirteenth and Don Cornwell went down on the south end approach at
dark.There was normally 2 events at most venues.

On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 8:39 PM, Virgil N. Salisbury via KRnet <
krnet at list.krnet.org> wrote:

>
> Check with Video BOB, Virg
>
>
>
> On 6/20/2016 7:04 PM, Larry Flesner via KRnet wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> This is what I have so far.  Can anyone add, correct, or have any
>> earlier dates?  If anyone has the "old newsletter" disk and wants to
>> research, please do.  I've made every Gathering, including the two in
>> 98, since 1990 except the Corona Gathering, but my memory is not as good
>> as it was when I started my KR 25 years ago. :-(
>>
>> Larry Flesner
>>
>> KR Gatherings  - year and location
>>
>> 1989 - Covington, Tenn.
>> 1990 - Rough River, Kentucky
>> 1991 ? Kentucky Dam State Park
>> 1992 ?
>> 1993 - Covington, Tennessee
>> 1994 ? Columbia, Tennessee
>> 1995 ? Columbia, Tennessee
>> 1996 ? Pine Bluff, Arkansas
>> 1997 ? Perry, Oklahoma
>> 1998 - Perry, Oklahoma   Columbia, TN "East Coast Gathering"
>> 1999 ? Lake Barkley, Kentucky
>> 2000 ? Lake Barkley, Kentucky
>> 2001 - Pine Bluff, Arkansas
>> 2002 - Red Oak, Iowa
>> 2003 - Red Oak, Iowa
>> 2004 - Mt.Vernon, Illinois
>> 2005 - Mt.Vernon, Illinois
>> 2006 - Mt.Vernon, Illinois
>> 2007 - Mt.Vernon, Illinois
>> 2008 - Mt.Vernon, Illinois
>> 2009 - Mt.Vernon, Illinois
>> 2010 - Richmond, Kentucky
>> 2011 - Mt.Vernon, Illinois
>> 2012 - Mt.Vernon, Illinois
>> 2013 - Mt.Vernon, Illinois
>> 2014 - Corona, California
>> 2015 - McMinnville, Oregon
>>
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KR> "blast from the past"

[Tommy Waymack]

Kentucky Dam state park 1991

On Sat, Jun 18, 2016 at 7:29 PM, Mark Langford via KRnet <
krnet at list.krnet.org> wrote:

> Larry Flesner wrote:
>
> > Any chance we can use our collective memories and come up with a list of
> > year and location for all the past Gatherings?  I've attended 25 of the
> > last 26 Gatherings but can't remember all the years and locations.
>
> Here's the list of links from KRnet:
>
> '94 Columbia, TN Gathering photos
> '95 Columbia, TN Gathering photos
> '96 Pine Bluff, Arkansas Gathering photos
> '97 Perry, OK Gathering photos
> '98 Columbia, TN "East Coast Gathering" photos
> '98 Perry, OK Gathering photos
> '99 Lake Barkley, KY Gathering photos
> 2000 Oshkosh photos
> 2000 Lake Barkley, KY Gathering photos
> 2001 Oshkosh photos
> 2001 Pine Bluff, Arkansas KR Gathering photos .
> 2002 Red Oak, Iowa KR Gathering photos .
> 2003 Red Oak, Iowa KR Gathering photos.
> 2004 Mount Vernon Gathering photos.
> 2005 Mount Vernon Gathering photos.
> 2006 Mount Vernon Gathering photos by EL Miller and Glenda McElwee.
> 2008 KR Gathering photos
> 2009 and more recent KR Gathering photos
>
> Bob Lee was doing such a good job posting photos that I quit posting mine
> after 2009, but may eventually get time to post some of them.
>
> All of the above represent links that can be found at
> http://www.krnet.org/ if you want to see pictures and commentary...
>
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KR> Flywheel alternators

[Tommy Waymack]

This is a problem I have experienced in my Revmaster VW.Years ago mine was
not charging.But it never seemed to go dead just low voltage.Removed the
rotor and sent it to Revmaster for a recharge of the magnets.They sent it
back and the magnets were much stronger and the charge rate when up to a
healthy 14 volts.After years of use,the charge rate went back down.Rev
master no longer recharges the magnets but I decided to buy a new rotor,not
cheap.The new ones are made with much better material and will last
longer.I do think my aircraft has out lived it's life expectancy.Tommy W.

On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 4:33 PM, billjacobs386 at yahoo.com <
krnet at list.krnet.org> wrote:

>
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks Jeff,Good clear description.
> Bill Jacobs
>
>
> -- Original message--From: Jeff Scott via KRnet Date: Mon, Jun 13,
> 2016 5:28 PMTo: krnet at list.krnet.org;Cc: Jeff Scott;Subject:Re: KR>
> Flywheel alternators"Flywheel Alternators" are more aptly described as
> Dynamo Charging systems.  They have fixed magnets that fly past a fixed
> Stator (coil or coils) to produce AC current and either a single or 3 phase
> A/C Output that is then rectified into DC.  A single phase unit either
> works or not as there are no moving parts to wear out.  If a wire breaks in
> the stator or beetween the stator and the regulator, it no longer works.  A
> 3 phase unit can lose a phase, which will reduce its max current output.  I
> expect the Great Planes units are likely single phase.  The regulator is
> where all the magic happens and where problems are most likely to occur.
> The regulator both rectifies the AC output into DC, and regulates the DC to
> something less than 14.3 Volts. Low voltage output will almost always be
> the regulator that's at fault.  No charging can be either the regulator,
> wiring, or the dynamo stator wires that have failed. The failures I have
> seen in them were failed regulators, and burned wiring between the dynamo
> and the regulator, and broken wires in the dynamo.  It is possible that
> your regulator output may be affected by heat, but to what degree, I
> couldn't predict.  Since these systems don't typically charge at idle, you
> need to use a good voltmeter (preferably digital) and take a reading
> anywhere on the 12V DC buss with the engine turning somewhere around 1500 -
> 2000 RPM.  I don't have any specific knowledge about the Great Planes
> units, so don't know what RPM they cut in, but the ones on the Jabiru
> engines I've been working on seem to start charging around 1800 rpm.  Once
> it's charging with minimal load, I would expect to see something on the
> order of a minimum of 13V to maintain the battery.  If it is less than
> that, they you are likely looking at a regulator issue.  The dynamo itself
> will either work, or it won't. -Jeff ScottLos Alamos, NM Sent: Monday, June
> 13, 2016 at 2:02 PMFrom: "Mike Stirewalt via KRnet"
> To: krnet at list.krnet.orgCc: laser147 at juno.comSubject: KR> Flywheel
> alternatorsAnybody know if the flywheel alternators that are in the Great
> Plainsengines wear out with time? It seems my voltmeter needle is
> ridingaround 11 volts instead of 12 with the engine at full RPM. It might
> bemy imagination.If they DO wear out with time, what needs to be replaced?
> What wears?I just aborted a trip to La Paz because the voltmeter needle
> seemed to beriding a little lower than it usually does. I didn't want to be
> comingback across the border without a working transponder so I landed in
> SanFelipe and just came back home. Better safe than sorry. This
> alternatorsituation worries me but it might be just fine and my imagination
> theproblem, not the alternator. It's got a lot of hours on it - theflywheel
> alternator I mean - and am wondering if I've got a
> problemdeveloping.Thanks,MikeKSEEAffordable
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KR> Ifly 720

[Tommy Waymack]

There are different types of touch screen activation.The two I am aware of
is resistance and capacitance.Resistance uses pressure to complete a
circuit on the screen.The capacitance type is probably more sensitive in
that the finger changes the capacitance of the circuit and activates the
system.Gloves are not useful in the capacitance screens unless they are
lamb skin or some other similar material  that will produce the same
effect.Tommy W.

On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 1:19 PM, Jeff Scott via KRnet 
wrote:

>
>
>
>
> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 at 11:23 AM
> From: "Mark Langford via KRnet" 
> To: KRnet 
> Cc: ml at n56ml.com
> Subject: Re: KR> Ifly 720
> Brian Kraut wrote:
>
> > Ifly 720. I powered it up over the weekend and noticed that it
> > took probably a minute or so to boot up and operation seems to not be
> > very fast on it. I kind of expected that on their dedicated hardware
> > that it would zip right along or at least run as good as it does on my
> > phone that is also running 100 other processes at the same time. I also
> > noticed that the touch screen requires a harder touch than my phone or
> > tablet
>
> Right on all counts! Mine probably takes well over two minutes to boot,
> and the touch screen isn't as sensitive as in iPhone, which may be by
> design. And the absence of an on/off switch is unforgiveable, as is the
> absence of at least a tiny battery to get you through cycling other
> power on or off for a few seconds. The other biggie is the super glossy
> screen. It just doesn't work well in a plane with a canopy. I had to
> buy another touch screen for mine for $120 after relatively little
> usage, but the previous one had a non-glare sheet over it. I may have
> even bought the non-glare thing...I forget, but I'm looking for another
> one now.
>
> Other than these nits, it's a great unit, but the conclusion I've drawn
> is to run it on an iPad, which can be bought used for under $100, and
> you get the best of both worlds. iPad hardware is pretty dang reliable
> and trouble free. I'm using my daughter discarded after many years of
> hard use, and everything on works like the day it was new. And what a
> battery...
>
> Mark Langford, Harvest, AL
> ML "at" N56ML.com
> www.N56ML.com[http://www.N56ML.com]
> ---
>
> I had the exact same issues with my iFly 720.  Painfully slow boot up.
> Insensitive screen.  Mine also needed the screen recalibrated regularly. I
> liked their software, but the 720 unit seemed to have a few problems.  Mine
> finally lost it's mind about a year ago and needed the OS to be flashed
> onto it again.  I asked them to make me a deal to trade for an iFly 740.
> All of those issues were addressed in the iFly 740.  It boots fast.  Has a
> much brighter screen that is more sensitive than the 720, but not overly
> sensitive like my Android unit.  And it has an internal battery that will
> run it for ~15 minutes.  And the WiFi on the 740 seems to work much better.
>
> I also fly with an Android running the same iFly software.  I find it to
> be a bit overly sensitive when I'm flying in rough air, so it's easy to get
> the wrong things keyed in.  It's not nearly as bright as the iFly 740, but
> about the same as the iFly 720.  The android also seems to be susceptible
> to RF interference that knocks the WiFi off line, so it drops the
> connection to my ADS-B gear.  Yesterday, the Android overheated and shut
> down for ~30 minutes while sitting in the same bright sunlight right next
> to my iFly unit, so I would say the iFly unit is a bit more hardy in real
> world environments.  I never had my iFly 720 or 740 shut down due to heat,
> but the Android has quit twice requiring it to cool for about 30 minutes in
> front of a vent and out of the sunlight before it was functional again.
>
> -Jeff Scott
> Los Alamos, NM
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KR> VW Heads (and crank)

[Tommy Waymack]

My experience with a Magnum 82 was positive.The only problem was leaking
oil around the valve covers.The most important feature of any installation
is the operator/maintenance manager.Scare tactics work in politics but tend
to bite you in aviation.Tommy W.

On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 11:25 AM, svd via KRnet 
wrote:

> Hi Tommy,
>
> Thanks for the input - its the only stick with it advice I?ve gotten.
>
> I?d love to stick with the Scat?s (price, they are neat, and supposedly
> they ?flow? exceptionally well).
>
> But I get a lot of advice that they do not cool well, resulting in valve
> train (and other) problems.
>
> How are they not interchangeable?
>
> If you mean the crank, yes I understand that I?ll have to have the case
> machined to accommodate both bearing 3 and the nose bearing (#4).  Total
> for bearing, machine work and Revmaster crank comes out about $1200. I
> think the stroke is 78mm - which is the same as the Revmaster.
>
> The current HAPI Magnum Plus crank set-up looks pretty good, but I keep
> getting told that the prop will ?depart in flight? - something I would
> prefer to avoid.
>
> Owen
>
>
> Date: Sun, 22 May 2016 15:28:59 -0500
> From: Tommy Waymack <5blindate at gmail.com <mailto:5blindate at gmail.com>>
> To: KRnet mailto:krnet at list.krnet.org>>
> Subject: Re: KR> Best Cylinder Heads for VW
> Message-ID:
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> HAPI and Revmaster are not interchangeable,Stick with what you have.Tommy
> W.
>
> On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 7:57 PM, svd via KRnet  <mailto:krnet at list.krnet.org>> wrote:
>
> > Hi Guys,
> >
> > I?d like to get opinions on best cylinder heads for and aircraft vw.
> > (yes this is sure to stir the muck).
> >
> > I have an new/old HAPI Magnum 82 (78mm stoke, 94mm cylinders, SCAT split
> > heads).
> >
> > I think I?m going to replace the crank with a Revmaster, and I?m looking
> > into replacing the heads.
> >
> > I could have Swain ceramic thermal barrier coat the pistons, valves and
> > head  for $600 - but I  don?t know it that would really fix the heat
> issues
> > with the poorly finned SCAT split heads.
> >
> > So what to replace them with??
> >
> > CB 44
> > http://www.cbperformance.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=1443 <
> http://www.cbperformance.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=1443>
> > or
> >
> >
> > Revmaster 49
> > http://revmasteraviation.com/?p=125#more-125 <
> http://revmasteraviation.com/?p=125#more-125>
> >
> >
> > vs
> >
> > MOFO 50
> >
> >
> http://www.mofoco.com/item/MOFOCO_050_BIG_VALVE_AIR_COOLED_VW_CYLINDER_HEAD/234/c52
> >  <
> http://www.mofoco.com/item/MOFOCO_050_BIG_VALVE_AIR_COOLED_VW_CYLINDER_HEAD/234/c52
> >
> >
> > Or something else entirely?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Owen
> >
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KR> Best Cylinder Heads for VW

[Tommy Waymack]

HAPI and Revmaster are not interchangeable,Stick with what you have.Tommy W.

On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 7:57 PM, svd via KRnet  wrote:

> Hi Guys,
>
> I?d like to get opinions on best cylinder heads for and aircraft vw.
> (yes this is sure to stir the muck).
>
> I have an new/old HAPI Magnum 82 (78mm stoke, 94mm cylinders, SCAT split
> heads).
>
> I think I?m going to replace the crank with a Revmaster, and I?m looking
> into replacing the heads.
>
> I could have Swain ceramic thermal barrier coat the pistons, valves and
> head  for $600 - but I  don?t know it that would really fix the heat issues
> with the poorly finned SCAT split heads.
>
> So what to replace them with??
>
> CB 44
> http://www.cbperformance.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=1443 <
> http://www.cbperformance.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=1443>
>
> or
>
>
> Revmaster 49
> http://revmasteraviation.com/?p=125#more-125 <
> http://revmasteraviation.com/?p=125#more-125>
>
>
> vs
>
> MOFO 50
>
> http://www.mofoco.com/item/MOFOCO_050_BIG_VALVE_AIR_COOLED_VW_CYLINDER_HEAD/234/c52
> <
> http://www.mofoco.com/item/MOFOCO_050_BIG_VALVE_AIR_COOLED_VW_CYLINDER_HEAD/234/c52
> >
>
>
> Or something else entirely?
>
> Cheers,
> Owen
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KR> parachutes

[Tommy Waymack]

Got to agree with all the ideas on this subject.Safety is an important
consideration in flying.I wish it were otherwise.Fly safe and keep
building.Tommy W.

On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 10:16 AM, Chris Prata via KRnet <
krnet at list.krnet.org> wrote:

> I believe my chute is a national 360, which I just checked weights 10.8lbs
> and is 1.75" thick.  at least thats the new specs for a 360. I can live
> with the 10lbs. In the unlikely event of a fire (which is what started the
> discussion), I will get out in time, believe that.
> Safety gear is a personal decision. Even if it just adds confidence, has
> value.
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KR> Removable Front Deck

[Tommy Waymack]

The KR was designed with retracts and mechanical brakes activated by a
cable running just in front of the main spar.Flew my plane for years
without needing to crawl under the panel to service brakes or much else.We
don't build the KR to stock specs anymore.Now everything has changed and so
has the design so don't blame the designer for changes made by the
builder.Tommy W.

On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 8:40 PM, Carl Dow via KRnet 
wrote:

>  blockquote, div.yahoo_quoted { margin-left: 0 !important; border-left:1px
> #715FFA solid !important; padding-left:1ex !important;
> background-color:white !important; }  Hehe
>
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad
>
>
> On Friday, May 6, 2016, 4:38 PM, Larry Flesner via KRnet <
> krnet at list.krnet.org> wrote:
>
>
> >
> >There was also a write up of an instrument panel rework where a
> >portion of the cockpit floor was removable thus allowing you to
> >stand in the cockpit with your feet on the ground and it made life much
> easier
>
> __
>
> On the plus side that would eliminate the need for brakes.  And with
> roller skates you could eliminate the need for landing gear also.
>
> Larry Flesner
>
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KR> KR 2 for sale

[Tommy Waymack]

My KR2 is for sale.Can sell as is,less fwf,or repaired.870-267-0543
5blindate at gmail.com

KR> VW type 1 questions - best reliability

[Tommy Waymack]

Thanks to everyone for there input.As far as reliability is concerned,This
is the first cracked head I've had in 26 years.Probably ran the mixture too
lean.The only EGT probe I use is on the opposite side from the head that
cracked.Tommy W.

On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 12:58 PM, Robert7721 via KRnet  wrote:

>
> Chis,
>
>
> The best practices are incorporated into the designs of both Great Plains
> and Revmaster. Lots of good info on their web sites. GP has manuals on
> conversion which I bought and use.
>
>
> One other expert was a man called Bob Hoover, but he has passed away. His
> blog might still exist. He had some serious issues with the Aerovee VW
> design. I don't believe their prop hub design is anywhere near equal to
> either GP or Rev. But it is another option out there.
>
>
> My engine has components on it from both Rev and GP. Rev case and
> crankshaft. GP dual spark plug cylinder heads. Rev dual ignition (bendix
> mag). Converted to use auto spark plugs. Revflow Carb. I feel pretty good
> about it's reliability.
>
>
> Biggest reliability issue on Type 1 VW is probably the cylinder heads.
> They do have a limited life span running our engines at high power
> settings. Plan to replace them as needed.  Steve Bennett at GP state this
> regularly.
>
>
> Rob Schmitt
> N1852Z
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Chris Prata via KRnet 
> To: krnet 
> Cc: Chris Prata 
> Sent: Thu, Apr 21, 2016 11:13 am
> Subject: KR> VW type 1 questions - best reliability
>
> After reading the VW heads topic, I am wondering what the main reliability
> issues and best practices are on VW currently.
> Looks to me that the crankshaft should be forged, heads not cracked (are
> there best source for reliable heads?), apply best cooling to heads
> possible. and something about the front #4 bearing.
> Not sure about anything else structural, and what is best ignition, mag or
> electronic, etc.
> It is a way off but wondering about this because after 55+ years I would
> think that some "norms" and best practices would be out front by now to
> keep the VW type 1 turning... so thought I'd ask generally and see what
> info/experiences comes back for my KR Saves folder for future reference.
>  :)
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KR> VW cylinder heads

[Tommy Waymack]

Pulled my VW heads with low compression. Discovered crack between the valve
seats at the shortest point.My question is,does anyone repair them?Or are
they junk?I know this is a common problem,but it's my first time.Tommy W.

KR> KRnet Digest, Vol 4, Issue 100

[Tommy Waymack]

The 94 is thinner than the 92.Revmaster crank setup is different than the
HAPI and GPAS.All are good just different.Use the one you like.Tommy W.

On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 11:39 AM, svd via KRnet 
wrote:

> Thanks for the suggestion of the Revmaster crank and prop hub Mark.
> Why?  Any other suggestions? Heads?
>
> It does seem a shame to rip apart the HAPI, but I keep getting ominous
> opinions of its airworthiness.
>
>
>
>
>
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> >   1.  94x82 vs 92x82 (svd)
> >   2. Re:  94x82 vs 92x82 (Mark Langford)
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2016 16:31:56 -0700
> > From: svd 
> > To: "krnet at list.krnet.org" 
> > Subject: KR> 94x82 vs 92x82
> > Message-ID: 
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> >
> >
> > Is there any downside to moving to the 94mm cylinders vs 92mm's?  My
> son?s project currently has the 92x82 for 2180cc.  I can move to 94x82 for
> about the same cost as sticking with 92x82 in an upcoming rebuild.
> >
> > I?ve read that the 94mm cylinders are preferred because they are thicker
> walled.
> >
> > I am considering a pretty serious rebuild of the HAPI engine that came
> with my son?s KR project.
> >
> > Specifically, we are intending to replace the crank and prop hub (with
> GP Top Bug and Force One), cylinder heads (with ?), alternator with GP, and
> cylinders with nikasil?s (not the LN Nikies).
> >
> > Since the case will have to be machined to accept the Force One prop
> hub, shouldn?t be too much more to machine for the 94?s.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Owen
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2016 20:28:53 -0500
> > From: "Mark Langford" 
> > To: "'KRnet'" 
> > Subject: Re: KR> 94x82 vs 92x82
> > Message-ID: <6657B9D418D943CE96CBB3D7C757FBFD at BASE755>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >
> > Owen wrote:
> >
> >>> Is there any downside to moving to the 94mm cylinders vs 92mm's?  My
> son's
> > project currently has the 92x82 for 2180cc.  I can move to 94x82 for
> about
> > the same cost as sticking with 92x82 in an upcoming rebuild.<<
> >
> > Several of us are running 94mm cylinders on the Corvair with no problems
> at
> > all.  You'll probably go through at least two sets of VW heads before you
> > need to touch the pistons/cylinders.  They are well proven.  I put 550
> hours
> > on a set in N56ML and they still look great and have great compression.
> >
> > I've built two GPASC engines (and torn them both down several times for
> hub
> > issues), and if I were going to build another VW, I'd use the Revmaster
> > crank and prop hub setup instead.
> >
> > Mark Langford
> > ML at N56ML.com
> > http://www.n56ml.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
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KR> Adverse Yaw

[Tommy Waymack]

Not sure if there is improvement or not,they look good.And if it makes the
pilot feel better,then why not.Tommy W.

On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 10:22 PM, Roger Bulla via KRnet  wrote:

> I saw a notable difference in performance on my first KR installing gap
> seals, but it was built using three piano hinges only about 10 inches long
> spaced out evenly along the length of the aileron so there was a open gap
> from bottom to top.
>
> On my present KR I installed gap seals before I took it to the airport for
> the first flight, so I am not sure if there was any gain. It climbs, turns
> and flies great. Maybe I'll pull them off sometime and check the
> performance without them. Or maybe not.
>
> Roger Bulla
>
> -Original Message- From: svd via KRnet
> Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 4:53 PM
> To: krnet at list.krnet.org
> Cc: svd
> Subject: KR> Adverse Yaw
>
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> I was just reading an old article by Stu Robinson in the March 1994 KR
> newsletter.
>
> In it, Stu points out that the aileron gap serves to increase drag on the
> down wing, thereby reducing or eliminating adverse yaw.
>
> However, I also read an article about how important gap seals are for
> increasing climb performance.
>
> So?
> Gaps seal?
>
> (I?m working on a RAF KR2s thats pretty close to plans.)
>
> Cheers,
> Owen
>
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KR> I can get spoiled flying up here.

[Tommy Waymack]

Jeff,Don't need to tell you but I just rebuilt a generator  and the parts
are not cheap.Still cheaper than a STC and new equipment on a 50 year old
airplane.Tommy W.

On Sun, Mar 20, 2016 at 4:56 PM, Jeff Scott via KRnet 
wrote:

>
>
>
> I thought everyone was very restrained not to post a link to project
> literacy.  Just kidding Paul...
>
> I lived on the west side of the Cascades many years ago.  When the weather
> is nice, it's really nice for flying.  Typically little to no wind and
> smooth air.  I really enjoyed living there.
>
> I don't write much about flying my KR as that's kind of normal for me.  I
> fly it all the time.  But this weekend, the KR is broken.  This is my
> second failure of an Emag since I installed them 160 hrs ago.  Since the
> Emags are off to the factory for overhaul this week and half of the stuff
> was already off the back of the engine, I decided it was time to do the
> upgrades I've been promising myself for nearly 20 years.  I pulled the old
> 20 amp Generator off and will install a Plane Power Alternator.  I also
> removed the old pull cable Delco starter and will install a B&C lightweight
> key start starter.  Cutting off the Starter Pinion shaft inside the back of
> the engine was great fun.  I'll take 10# off the engine with this round of
> upgrades.
>
> BTW, if anyone is in need of a 20 Amp Delco Generator for a C series
> Continental (with ~130 hrs since overhaul), a mechanical regulator that was
> also new with the generator, or an old style Delco pull starter (with a
> replaceable, but failing clutch), drop me a line.  I'd rather give this
> stuff away than throw it away when I move next year.
>
> -Jeff Scott
> Los Alamos, NM
>
>
> That explains it, Paul, you're way ahead of me I didn't think of voice to
> text because I've never used it. Sorry I brought it up, Larry Bell.
>
> On Sat, Mar 19, 2016 at 4:04 PM, Paul Visk via KRnet  >
> wrote:
>
> > Your write Larry. I use voice to text most of the time and there our
> > times I miss something when I go back and proofread. I'm not much of a
> > righter, butt eye do my best. : )
> > Paul ViskBelleville Il.618 406 4705
> >
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KR> KT76A and VHF worth?

[Tommy Waymack]

Used transponders cost more than they are worth and transceivers can be a
problem if not operational.Repair is available but getting harder to
find.The transmitter cavity in the transponder can go bad and replacement
is more than the unit is worth.For that reason the 40 year old KT-76 I sold
was cheap because it is very likely on the edge of oblivion with each turn
on.Transponders are tested every 2 years regardless of IFR or VFR
operation.The pitot/static system and encoder are tested for accurracy for
IFR cert. only.The VFR test doesn't care if the altimeter is correct or
not.Your VFR.Tommy W.

On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 4:05 PM, brian.kraut--- via KRnet <
krnet at list.krnet.org> wrote:

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KR> Dynel & resin question

[Tommy Waymack]

N995BG was constructed with Dynel back in the late 70's,early 80's.Still
flying and repaired with fiberglass when needed.Tommy W.

On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 6:32 AM, Chris Kinnaman via KRnet <
krnet at list.krnet.org> wrote:

> Hi All,
> Just curious, has anyone on the list built their KR using the original
> Dynel fabric? Is anyone flying one of the older birds constructed with
> Dynel?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Chris
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KR> Turtle deck question:

[Tommy Waymack]

Did not build that part of the plane but it appears pretty much stock as
per plans.The engine change from 1835 to 2100 was changed to the 2"
extension for better passenger carrying CG.

On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 8:16 AM, Mike Arnold via KRnet  wrote:

> Tommy did you use the top of the longeron for your horizontal datem to
> locate your thrust line for the engine?
> On Sep 29, 2015 11:22 AM, "Tommy Waymack via KRnet" 
> wrote:
>
> > Mine has enough room for a small tent,one sleeping bag,and roll up air
> > mattress.KR2 with VW spaced forward 2 ".Tommy W.
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 8:46 PM, Rob Schmitt via KRnet <
> > krnet at list.krnet.org
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > What ever you put behind the seat needs to be pretty light to keep
> within
> > > the CG. I do use my space behind the seat for sleeping bags strapped in
> > > with
> > > bungee cords to keep them from interfering with the control cables to
> the
> > > elevator.
> > >
> > > Rob Schmitt
> > > N1852Z
> > >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: KRnet [mailto:krnet-bounces at list.krnet.org] On Behalf Of Flesner
> > via
> > > KRnet
> > > Sent: Monday, September 28, 2015 6:05 PM
> > > To: KRnet 
> > > Cc: Flesner 
> > > Subject: Re: KR> Turtle deck question:
> > >
> > > At 12:34 PM 9/28/2015, you wrote:
> > > >While I'm finishing up with the exterior work, I'm beginning to look
> > > >inside of the aircraft. One thing that I noticed is there is some
> (what
> > > >I presume) to be wasted space under the turtle deck.
> > > ++
> > >
> > > It's possible to use some space behind the seat for storage but it
> > totally
> > > depends on the final C.G. of the airplane.  One bay behind the seat is
> > > probably all that's going to be available.  I would suggest you make
> that
> > > the very last thing you work on after seeing where the C.G. comes out
> and
> > > then see how much weight you will be able to carry in that location and
> > go
> > > from there.  I suspect you'll find that you can only carry a limited
> > amount
> > > of weight in that area, especially if you have a straight KR2 not a 2S.
> > >
> > > Larry Flesner
> > >
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KR> Turtle deck question:

[Tommy Waymack]

Mine has enough room for a small tent,one sleeping bag,and roll up air
mattress.KR2 with VW spaced forward 2 ".Tommy W.

On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 8:46 PM, Rob Schmitt via KRnet  wrote:

> What ever you put behind the seat needs to be pretty light to keep within
> the CG. I do use my space behind the seat for sleeping bags strapped in
> with
> bungee cords to keep them from interfering with the control cables to the
> elevator.
>
> Rob Schmitt
> N1852Z
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: KRnet [mailto:krnet-bounces at list.krnet.org] On Behalf Of Flesner via
> KRnet
> Sent: Monday, September 28, 2015 6:05 PM
> To: KRnet 
> Cc: Flesner 
> Subject: Re: KR> Turtle deck question:
>
> At 12:34 PM 9/28/2015, you wrote:
> >While I'm finishing up with the exterior work, I'm beginning to look
> >inside of the aircraft. One thing that I noticed is there is some (what
> >I presume) to be wasted space under the turtle deck.
> ++
>
> It's possible to use some space behind the seat for storage but it totally
> depends on the final C.G. of the airplane.  One bay behind the seat is
> probably all that's going to be available.  I would suggest you make that
> the very last thing you work on after seeing where the C.G. comes out and
> then see how much weight you will be able to carry in that location and go
> from there.  I suspect you'll find that you can only carry a limited amount
> of weight in that area, especially if you have a straight KR2 not a 2S.
>
> Larry Flesner
>
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KR> KR Gathering

[Tommy Waymack]

Thank you Marc.Tommy W, former gathering host.And thanks to the KR
community for the opportunity to be a part of it.

On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 2:30 PM, Sparky Sparks via KRnet <
krnet at list.krnet.org> wrote:

> Thank you Marc'  Sparky Sparks
>
> -Original Message- From: Marc Baca via KRnet
> Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 8:58 AM
> To: KRnet
> Cc: Marc Baca ; Steve G.
> Subject: Re: KR> KR Gathering
>
>
> I typically maintain a low profile on the net and simply listen and learn
> but today I'm compelled to talk about something I know a little about.
> Throughout the last couple of years i've seen a few individuals lob some
> subtle and often less than subtle suggestions that Steve Glover has
> indulged in some impropriety.   One such comment is the folowing..
> "Hopefully there will be a full accounting to close those Gathering
> books"
>
> I'm hoping that comments like these are simply an abrupt choice of words
> and that they does not translate into  Steve Glover (who organized the 2014
> Gathering) having to deal with yet another layer of popular
> misunderstandings.
>
> I'm almost positive that Steve Glover will NOT give a "FULL" accounting of
> the expenses for last year's gathering.  I'm sure that he won't bother
> anyone by commenting about the the numerous days he took off to get the
> 2014 KR Gathering locked in, the amount of $$ he spent out of pocket for
> the guys he had to pay to clean and arranged a production hangar for the
> worshops.  and out of sheer consideration for attendees the
> constructions and installation of a new toilet (for older folk) and sinks,
> the siding so that the hangar would look presentable and functional  for
> people, the renting and purchase of amenities like the Public Address
> system, chairs and tables, the loss he took purchasing items to make sure
> the workshops were useful to people, the gasoline from driving around to
> get things done.Because the 2014 gathering appeared seemless, one might
> not know the amount of time and effort it took to deal  with the
> administration at the airport, discussions with insurance companies, the
> coordination of the cadre of volunteers and contributors that he had to
> convince.  I'm certain there's alot more that  did that does not come to
> mind at the moment.
> I often see a posts that suggest that he is running a KR business that is
> non responsive and have even seen the suggestion of fiduciary impropriety.
> Many people don't know that he has invested several thousands of dollars
> into a business (perhaps $75K or more) that keeps premade KR Parts
> available at a significant loss to him personally year after year. I can
> see Steve's frustration building year after year as some of these posts add
> insult to the financial injury.
>
> For those of you who have been swayed with a question about his character,
> I've seen Steve almost every weekend for the last 4 years during which time
> he's taught me to build aircraft. In the 4 years I've known him, I have not
> witnessed even ONE incidence where Steve has indulged in any monetary
> discrepancies. People never find out about the finicky buyers that cost him
> fees after rescinding their orders due to the unfounded comments and ideas
> transmitted through emails and such. Moreover, the last couple of years
> I've witnessed people's expressed anxieties about plans and parts on the
> KRnet. Most of the time the delays were caused by things that were not
> under his control. I wont bore anyone with details but consider this
> Steve Glover has made a great contribution to the KR Community 75% of
> the time at his own expense  as there is  little financial gain in the
> KR parts business and almost all of the time there is negative financial
> gain.  Every month, year after year, despite the cyber wallops lobbed at
> him, he keeps the availability of pre made parts, kits and innovations for
> the KR coming.
>
> Once again, I'm not interested in stirring up  a discussion about this...
> My comment is for the purpose of precluding a discussion about people's
> anxieties   as I personally witness the weekly operations at the NVaero
> Hangar.
>
> I also want to tip my hat to those individuals who assemble these
> gatherings  as I've witnessed that it is a Herculean effort.
> Marc BacaEast L.A.N13UG
>
>
> On Friday, September 11, 2015 6:09 AM, Steve G. via KRnet <
> krnet at list.krnet.org> wrote:
>
>
> Yet again, nobody contacted me.
>
> Steve Glover
>
> Sent from my electronic leash.
>
> On Sep 11, 2015, at 05:40, Flesner via KRnet  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I received the following personal e-mail and felt it necessary to reply
>> to the group as I'm sure others have the same concern.  E-mail and reply
>> are below.
>>
>> Larry Flesner
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> At 11:29 PM 9/10/2015, you wrote:
>>
>>> Guys, is it reall

KR> Jim Faughn's engine

[Tommy Waymack]

Don't think for a minute an engine problem as everything to do with the
builder.Maintenance and operations do.Jim flew his plane many trouble free
miles.We all are responsible for the condition of our power plants and they
are experimental.If you want someone else to be responsible for your
equipment go with standard category aircraft.Oh,and they ain't perfect
either.Tommy W.

On Sat, Sep 5, 2015 at 9:48 AM, Gene Essman via KRnet 
wrote:

> Michael, sorry but oil level can't be that high or the crank would be
> fighting to get through the oil on every revolution.  Glad you had a good
> safe trip up north.  See you when you get home.
> Gene
>
> -Original Message-
> From: KRnet [mailto:krnet-bounces at list.krnet.org] On Behalf Of Mike
> Stirewalt via KRnet
> Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2015 1:16 AM
> To: krnet at list.krnet.org
> Cc: laser147 at juno.com
> Subject: KR> Jim Faughn's engine
>
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KR> KR Gathering

[Tommy Waymack]

Here's my wish for a good Gathering.Wish I were there.Thanks to all for a
good report on the festivities.Tommy W.

On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 10:26 AM, Tommy Waymack <5blindate at gmail.com> wrote:

> Here's my wish for a good Gathering.Wish I were there.Thanks to all for a
> good report on the festivities.Tommy W.
>
> On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 8:12 PM, Robert7721 via KRnet  > wrote:
>
>> Sorry, I can't make it this year. Bad weekend for me - kind of. Labor Day
>> weekend is an annual reunion with some of my military comrades at the
>> Kansas City, Irish Fest.  I'll be glad to drink a toast to my KR
>> brothers/sisters this weekend as well. Cheers!
>>
>>
>> We had a pretty good time at Terry Chezik's airport in Marion KS a couple
>> weekends ago. Terry, Jeff Scott, and I got to have some fun doing low
>> approaches and fly-bys in our KRs. Terry's BBQ/Fly-in got a pretty good
>> write up in the local paper.
>>
>>
>> Rob Schmitt
>> KR2S
>> N1852Z
>> Kansas City, MO
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Mike Stirewalt via KRnet 
>> To: krnet 
>> Cc: laser147 
>> Sent: Wed, Sep 2, 2015 1:43 pm
>> Subject: KR> KR Gathering
>>
>>
>> Hey KR people.  Everything I'm reading about arriving at the Gathering
>> has to
>> do with the airlines.  What kind of Gathering is it when everyone
>> is flying to
>> it in damn airliners???  Might as well be talking about a
>> convention of people
>> attending a polar bear conference.  Is anybody
>> (besides me) actually going to
>> fly their planes there?
>>
>> Re the MSD crimpers, will the Taylor crimpers for 8.2
>> wires work?  I can
>> bring mine.  Do you need them in McMinnville?
>>
>> Also,
>> regarding my new Taylor 40 Ohm wires, I'm getting a lot of radio
>> noise on the
>> carrier which I wasn't getting before so the "no noise"
>> feature of the Taylors
>> isn't working.  I can fix this by going around the
>> radio ground directly to the
>> battery but just thought I ought to correct
>> my initial impression.  They HAVE
>> fixed the missing on my secondary
>> ignition.  The coils are getting old and the
>> low resistance wires are
>> making life easier on them.  No missing anymore.  Not
>> happy with the
>> radio noise though.  It's still usable, just not as quiet as
>> before.
>>
>>
>> Mike
>> KSEE
>>
>> 
>> Shark
>> Tank???s Huge Idea
>> Warren Buffett is worried, but you can profit. Click
>> here.
>> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/55e742fcdb18542fc790ast02vuc
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KR> KR Gathering

[Tommy Waymack]

Here's my wish for a good Gathering.Wish I were there.Thanks to all for a
good report on the festivities.Tommy W.

On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 8:12 PM, Robert7721 via KRnet 
wrote:

> Sorry, I can't make it this year. Bad weekend for me - kind of. Labor Day
> weekend is an annual reunion with some of my military comrades at the
> Kansas City, Irish Fest.  I'll be glad to drink a toast to my KR
> brothers/sisters this weekend as well. Cheers!
>
>
> We had a pretty good time at Terry Chezik's airport in Marion KS a couple
> weekends ago. Terry, Jeff Scott, and I got to have some fun doing low
> approaches and fly-bys in our KRs. Terry's BBQ/Fly-in got a pretty good
> write up in the local paper.
>
>
> Rob Schmitt
> KR2S
> N1852Z
> Kansas City, MO
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mike Stirewalt via KRnet 
> To: krnet 
> Cc: laser147 
> Sent: Wed, Sep 2, 2015 1:43 pm
> Subject: KR> KR Gathering
>
>
> Hey KR people.  Everything I'm reading about arriving at the Gathering
> has to
> do with the airlines.  What kind of Gathering is it when everyone
> is flying to
> it in damn airliners???  Might as well be talking about a
> convention of people
> attending a polar bear conference.  Is anybody
> (besides me) actually going to
> fly their planes there?
>
> Re the MSD crimpers, will the Taylor crimpers for 8.2
> wires work?  I can
> bring mine.  Do you need them in McMinnville?
>
> Also,
> regarding my new Taylor 40 Ohm wires, I'm getting a lot of radio
> noise on the
> carrier which I wasn't getting before so the "no noise"
> feature of the Taylors
> isn't working.  I can fix this by going around the
> radio ground directly to the
> battery but just thought I ought to correct
> my initial impression.  They HAVE
> fixed the missing on my secondary
> ignition.  The coils are getting old and the
> low resistance wires are
> making life easier on them.  No missing anymore.  Not
> happy with the
> radio noise though.  It's still usable, just not as quiet as
> before.
>
>
> Mike
> KSEE
>
> 
> Shark
> Tank???s Huge Idea
> Warren Buffett is worried, but you can profit. Click
> here.
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KR> Fuel capacity

[Tommy Waymack]

Good morning,My KR2 has a 24 gallon header tank.As mark says it is not user
friendly when working behind the panel.For day time VFR it is not a big
problem but once you start into high tech land it becomes an issue.An
example of flying long distance would be the trip made from Cross City
FL.to Pine Bluff,AR nonstop with an early GPS for hikers.5 hours 17
minutes.All the water bottles were full and some were emptied out the
landing gear holes.At 4 gallons per hour there was about 45 minutes
reserve[maybe].
What I remember is taking a lot of time to get out of the plane.The early
astronauts must have been a lot more heroic than I thought.Not many people
will ever spend that much time in the air unless they REALLY want to.It was
my personal best.Tommy W.

On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 4:36 AM, David Mullins via KRnet <
krnet at list.krnet.org> wrote:

> On my 3XL KR2S the Stub wing tanks calculated out to 14.5 Gal each.
> They are aluminum following the contour of the airfoil between the
> Spars. My stub wings are 2 feet long.  The Header tank, I am guest-a-mating
> at 18-20 Gal. I will have to find that out when I fill it.
>
> Dave Mullins
> Nashua NH
>
>
>
>
>
> On 8/23/2015 7:55 PM, Paul VISK via KRnet wrote:
>
>> Yesterday I filled my out board wing tank and found it holds 10 gallons.
>> With my stub wing tanks of 4 gallons each.  I want to add a 10 gl header
>> tank to help with cg. Total of 38 gallons. What are some of fuel capacity
>> of some of the bigger tanks out there?  I'm thinking this might be a little
>> to much. I'll be putting on  a 3.0L Carvair.
>>
>> Paul ViskBelleville Il618-406-4705
>>
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KR> errors in plans/supplements?

[Tommy Waymack]

This ain't a blog.The KR design is a good one and if it don't fit your
requirements ,I suggest a different design.Tommy W.

On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 10:34 PM, Chris Prata via KRnet <
krnet at list.krnet.org> wrote:

> mike, as an (hopefully) upcoming builder, is there a comprehensive list of
> things the builders have discovered to maybe do differently as you mention?
>
> > Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 23:26:24 -0400
> > To: krnet at list.krnet.org
> > Subject: Re: KR> Nvaero plans/supplements
> > From: krnet at list.krnet.org
> > CC: mctaglieri at gmail.com
> >
> > I was asking for the reason for the delay, not trying to blame Steve.
> It's
> > obviously Jeanette Rand's fault.  Ken Rand died when the design of the KR
> > was still evolving and the plans were little more than a first draft.
> It's
> > tragic  there was never anyone else at Rand-Robinson who was interested
> in
> > correcting the errors in the plans and improving the KR's design.  (Of
> > course many people here have done that, but you aren't the official
> > supplier, so the defective plans keep getting sold and everyone has to
> > rediscover the errors afresh).
> >
> > If Ken had been a careful pilot and stuck around awhile, he could have
> > been another Burt Rutan, and the KR could have been the first of many
> > brilliant designs.  Instead Rand-Robinson became a printing shop
> > that did little for 40 years but reprint and sell the same set of plans,
> > and now they apparently can hardly even do that.
> >
> > Mike Taglieri
> >
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KR> broken head stud

[Tommy Waymack]

Had one break on the way to Red Oak,Iowa.Cylinder temp went up and was
unable to make the gathering but the plane made it home ok.checked the head
nuts and sure enough,a stud broke.Only time it has happened.Tommy W.

On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Mark Langford via KRnet <
krnet at list.krnet.org> wrote:

> Jeff Lange wrote:
>
>
> > Bummer about the stud. What do you think caused that? It's very rare.
>
> I think it was just a bad stud.  It was new when I put it in, although it
> makes me wonder if they all shouldn't come out and some OEM or German studs
> should go back in their place (the original engine probably had OEM
> studs).  This was a brittle fracture, at first glance, and the nuts were
> torqued properly at assembly.
>
> Mark Langford
> ML at N56ML.com
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KR> Ballast weight installation

[tommy waymack]

My KR2 is a first generation model having been started in 1977.It started
out as a no electric retract at 550lbs.Through the years and mods,it is now
an electic start fixed gear taildragger and the fuel is still in the header
at 650lbs.The engine,a VW moved forward about 2 inches and the battery
12lbs. is mounted behind the aft spar just behind the passenger seat.To
date the largest passenger has been 230lbs..Pilot is 180lbs.and fuel
capacity 24 gallons in the header.Only in the case of long xcountry flights
would I ever put more than 15 gallons in.I have only experienced aft cg
issues with a passenger but even then were manageable not recommended.The
aircraft flies best in the middle not forward or aft.Tommy W.

On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 8:24 AM, Ken via KRnet  wrote:

> Hi Jeff
>
> That is exactly the point I was aiming to yesterday.  The addition of a
> single pound in the tail would require perhaps five times more in the nose
> due to the differences in distance from the CG to the tail than the the
> distance from CG to the nose.  It is quite likely the balance weight on the
> elevator is good to have but unnecessary for the KR-2 since much of it's
> top speeds have shown that most of the KR-2 have exhibited little or no
> concern.
>
> Adrian Carter and I were both building our own KR-2 at the same time in
> Calgary and we were always concerned with how to keep our projects light.
> That needs to remain the principle target with the KR-2.  I am getting
> close to finishing my plane many years after Adrian's.  I haven't commented
> on anything over the years but perhaps I should rather than just reading.
>
> Thank you
> Ken R Nathan  KR-2  C-FKRN
>
>
> On 5/11/2015 11:34 PM, Jeff Scott via KRnet wrote:
>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> You are correct in that the fuselage was extended to address elevator
>> sensitivity and the firewall moved forward to move the engine forward to
>> make the plane easier to balance.  Sid just stated it a different way by
>> saying the wing was moved back by 2".  Either statement is correct.  I
>> don't think the CG envelope changed at all between the 2 and 2S as far as
>> CG range relative to the wing cord.
>>
>> I don't know why Sid's plane is so terribly tail heavy, but adding a ton
>> of weight to it isn't the way I would go about fixing it.  As someone
>> pointed out, he has balance weights on the elevator.  Those are really
>> unnecessary on the KRs.  I'd lose those in a heartbeat.  When I rebuilt the
>> tail on mine to a much larger elevator and stab, I designed it to
>> accommodate a set of balance weights, but when it came down to it, I
>> couldn't convince myself to add 4# of lead to the tail.
>>
>> Sid seems determined to fly his plane as equipped.  That seems fool hardy
>> to me and others have implied the same on the net.  Hopefully he won't hurt
>> himself in it.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> -Jeff
>>
>>
>>
>>  Hi Jeff
>>>
>>> I thought the -2S had the rear fuselage extended to reduce elevator
>>> sensitivity and had the firewall moved forward to compensate by altering
>>> the
>>> engine mount position. I can well understand then why you correctly
>>> needed
>>> to add weight up front in various ways without building the firewall
>>> extension. I wasn't aware that RR changed the CoG envelopes as well to
>>> reflect any changes to wing position.
>>>
>>> I sincerely hope Sid has a successful flight but I don't understand his
>>> reluctance to get his conclusions verified by a professional given the
>>> stakes. To me it's a no brainer given the magnitude of the weights
>>> apparently needed.
>>>
>>> Regards John
>>>
>>>
>>> John Martindale
>>> 29 Jane Circuit
>>> Toormina NSW 2452
>>> Australia
>>>   ph:61 2 6658 4767
>>> m:0403 432179
>>> email:john_martindale at bigpond.com
>>> web site:
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
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>>> Scott
>>> via KRnet
>>> Sent: Tuesday, 12 May 2015 4:03 AM
>>> To: krnet at list.krnet.org
>>> Cc: Jeff Scott
>>> Subject: Re: KR> Ballast weight installation
>>>
>>> Sid brings up a good point here, especially for builders that are early
>>> on
>>> in their projects..snip
>>>
>>>
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KR> Ballast weight installation

[tommy waymack]

Perhaps Sid has been giving the KR community a good example of experimental
aviation.Thank you Sid.Many of us,including myself,can be a bit reluctant
to discuss our ideas on a really important subject,weight and balance,and
how it relates to safely flying a home built aircraft.My experience tells
me how important it is in keeping the pilot alive.Not going to make a book
about it.Keep up the good work.Good engineering makes good use of all parts
of the plane.Tommy W.

On Sun, May 10, 2015 at 11:53 AM, Sid Wood via KRnet 
wrote:

> Moving the wing forward would exacerbate the problem.  The aerodynamic fix
> would be to move the wings 2-inches aft from the KR-2 plans callout.  That
> is essentially what was done with the KR-2S.  In the case of my already
> built (and flying) KR-2, moving the wings would amount to building another
> fuselage and stub wings.  I chose bolting on some steel weights.  Granted
> not the most elegant solution.  As Larry recommends, perhaps a bigger
> engine installation would indeed be the best choice.  Anyone interested in
> a firewall forward package for a Great Plains 2180 VW, Diehl case, Zenith
> carb, RR engine mount with 2" extension blocks, Sterba 52x52 prop,
> Revmaster oil cooler, Grand Rapids engine monitor with all probes and 10.6
> engine operating hours, turning 3150 RPM static WOT.
>
> Sid Wood
> Tri-gear KR-2 N6242
> Mechanicsville, MD, USA
>
> 
>
>
> I'm no aerodynamicist but seems to me the proper way to fix this problem
> is simply to move the wings forward.  Either that or shorten the tail.
>
> Using hydrogen or helium instead of air in the tires will help with
> buoyancy, which might help.  This has the side benefit of increasing the
> service ceiling.
>
> Keep in mind when playing around with lead that it is highly toxic.  It's
> against the law to use lead even for wheel weights, at least in
> California.  If your plane is loaded with lead it's possible you'll be
> stopped at the state line and have to take a bus the rest of the way.
> Lots to consider here.
>
> Mike
> KSEE
>
>
>
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KR> Ken Cottle's KR-1

[tommy waymack]

Yeah, but what a ride.Tommy W.

On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 3:07 PM, sparksfly2ms--- via KRnet <
krnet at list.krnet.org> wrote:

> Yep, I think it is about time for me too.Sparky
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from Windows Mail
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Mike Stirewalt via KRnet
> Sent: ?Thursday?, ?May? ?7?, ?2015 ?6?:?45? ?AM
> To: krnet at list.krnet.org
> Cc: MICHAEL Stirewalt
>
>
>
>
>
> I'm going long periods without mustering the enthusiasm needed to
> maintain and fly the aircraft so I've put this wonderful plane back on
> Barnstormers, where I found it in 2006.  We've seen even the most
> enthusiastic KR people decide to do something else - Jim Faughn comes to
> mind - but there are many on that list if you think back.  Now I'm
> joining them, sad to say.
>
> Mike
> KSEE
>
>
>
>
> 
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KR> collapsing gear

[tommy waymack]

David,This is off topic but wanted to let you know some history we have in
common.Got my KR project from Bruce Gilinsky back in 89 in Hot Springs
Arkansas.In the stuff was 2 pictures of a KR taken at John Day airport.Your
name and info on the plane was written on the back.Bruce started his
project in Eugene Oregon,his home and after years of work and traveling
across the country with his career,sold the KR project to me.I took the
pictures of your KR2 and put them up in my shop on the board.When I saw
your posts,I went back and double checked the pics and info.Good to know
you still fly the KR.It has been 25 years for me and still flying.Tommy W.

KR> how many KRs at Chino?

[tommy waymack]

I think we just did .Tommy W.


On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 8:42 AM, Mark Jones via KRnet 
wrote:

> I just read the article. Overall I thought it was decent with a few
> exceptions. Everyone has their own opinions and we don't need to get into a
> pi$$ing match about this. Earl brings up a valid point about doing a follow
> up article as well as Larry's statements about the true specs of today's
> KRs. I mean, what can I say I flew my KR2S with 450 pounds of meat sitting
> in it and it flew great and that was right at 1300 lbs gross.  Just longer
> take off roll, slower climb and longer landing roll.  If someone knows Dave
> Prizio at Kitplanes and how to get in touch with him maybe they would like
> to do a follow up article and call it "Today's REAL WORLD KR".
>
> Mark Jones (N886MJ)
> Stevens Point, WI
> Email: flykr2s at charter.net
> Web: www.flykr2s.com
>
>
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KR> Whats everybody doing...

[tommy waymack]

Speaking of wheel pants.Took mine off yesterday to get some idea of
handling without them.Am thinking of putting on larger tires.to make turf
landings.My speed was 5-10 knots slower though not really a problem except
for longer flights x-country.No noticeable changes otherwise.We have a turf
runway at KPBF but it is not on the map for liability issues.It is kept up
well for ag operations and is 90 degrees to the main runway.Comes in handy
for those days when a crosswind is just to iffy to land with
confidence.Tommy W.
On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 1:50 PM, Roger via KRnet 
wrote:

> Craig,

KR> testing 1..3

[tommy waymack]

First day in some time it was good to fly.Got Booger Red out flying.Plane
was hard to start,thought I might run down the battery even though it stays
on the battery maintainer.Cranked up and ran fine.Made a terrible landing
in ideal conditions.Guess one really does need to practice.Then later did 3
touch and goes.Now it's raining again.Life is good with a flying
airplane.Tommy W.
On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 6:47 AM, Roger Baalman via KRnet <
krnet at list.krnet.org> wrote:

> I am deep into airframe wiring.  90% complete 70% to go.  I think I have
> wasted $20 in terminal ends.  The panel is now a psuedo permanent part of
> the cabin.  For access, the panel swings out, hinged on the right side
> adjacent to the glove box. Fuse/ relay panel is behind, and it also swings
> out to access contactor, volt regulator and wirebundle.
> Roger Baalman
> rbaalman at cox.net
>  >
> > >It is very quied on the net? or something is wrong, or everybody is
> > >very bussy with building or flying.
> > >Stef
> >
> >-++
> >
> > I've been busy doing the annual inspection on my KR and disassembling
> > a second 0-200 to do a rebuild and eventually an engine
> > swap.  Weather is warming now so it's about flying season
> > again.  Yeee H...
> >
> > Larry Flesner
> >
> >
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KR> KR transponder?

[tommy waymack]

Mode S will only be required above 18000'.Mode C will be used as
always.Tommy W.
On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 12:56 PM, Lawrence Bell via KRnet <
krnet at list.krnet.org> wrote:

> Bill, this one at Spruce looks pretty good, Larry
>
> On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 8:56 AM, Bill Masquelier via KRnet <
> krnet at list.krnet.org> wrote:
>
> > We are getting our KR2 close (year or two) to completion-
> > in our area we will need a transponder (San Diego)
> > We may as well go with a "mode S" since it will be required soon.
> > What is the collective opinion of the group for a "modestly priced" one
> > that will work for us?
> > Bill Masquelier
> >
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KR> KR-1S build planning

[tommy waymack]

Build a stock KR2S and configure it for single pilot.There ain't a lot of
room to begin with and you will have a comfortable airplane.It will make
building with prefab parts a lot more enjoyable and result in a great
airplane.And yes it will fly with 1835.Build it light.Tommy W.
On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 12:01 AM, Chris Prata via KRnet <
krnet at list.krnet.org> wrote:

> James, I found there are scanned newsletters in searchable PDF format.
> Perhaps that will help.
> http://www.bouyea.net/newsletters/bitesize.htm
>
>
>
>
> > Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 21:04:51 -0800
> > To: krnet at list.krnet.org
> > Subject: KR> KR-1S build planning
> > From: krnet at list.krnet.org
>  >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I know that there are no official KR-1S plane, but I call it that way to
> > signify that I plan to modify a KR-2S (plan is on order through Steve)
> to a
> > single seater. What I am after is a light single seater with 30 gallon
> > fuel, a 1835cc VW, 1000 miles range with 100mph cruise at 2.5g/hour.
> >
> > While I am waiting for the plan, I would prefer to use the time
> > constructively, but it is not easy. (Would be nice to have a "newbies
> start
> > here" section.)
> >
> > 1. The first problem is the overwhelming amount of KR related info. I
> have
> > yet to even touch the tip of the iceberg, and I don't know how to shift
> > through all the historical info with any efficiency. I can certainly read
> > chronologically the archives, but for example how do I search for
> fuselage
> > jig related info?
> >
> > 2. The next issue is, because there are so many modification even to the
> > KR-2S, is it possible to build a "stock KR-2S" only with the narrower
> > fuselage from plan? Every minute of research is 1 minute less building,
> and
> > my reason to start from a KR-2S because I hope that it is aerodynamically
> > and structurally "finished". Is this the case? In other words, can I just
> > follow a KR-2S plan and only deviate if I have to?
> >
> > 3. Because I have yet to figure out a way to search the archives for
> > fuselage jig, can I ask some help to locate a better one on the web, or
> if
> > you want to send me a few private pictures off line, I would highly
> > appreciate it. I am a somewhat picky builder, so I am looking for a
> pretty
> > good fuselage jig idea, the one that you would use for you NEXT KR plane.
> >
> > 4. I thought, maybe the easiest way to cut through the information logjam
> > if I talk/visit someone for a few hours who is already building or built
> a
> > KR plane. Anyone around Northern California has one? (I am in the San
> > Francisco area). You may reply offline.
> >
> > Any help is appreciated, James
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KR> Weight And ballance

[tommy waymack]

Weight and balance CG,center of gravity, is a sum of the moments[arm x
weight]of each piece divided by the sum of the weight of each piece
measured from a common datum point.The arm being measured from a common
datum point.This is how I computed radio changes in aircraft.Measure the
component distance from the datum,multiply that with the weight of the
component.This becomes the moment for the component.Add the moments to all
components and divide the sum of the weights of all components=CG.Aft of
the datum is positive and forward of the datum is negative.The datum point
can be any point the designer wants.I believe Ken used the aft face of the
main spar.Any thing I say may be wrong.Works for me.Tommy W.
On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 9:30 AM, jon kimmel via KRnet 
wrote:

> Weight and balance is simply a summation of weights and moments.  If you
> know the weight and centroid of the wings then you can certainly do a good
> calculation without them.  On the e-3 they often do the final weighing
> without seats, paint, and other things.  Those are added back later.
>
> https://sites.google.com/site/mykr2stretch/
> https://sites.google.com/site/mykr2stretch/parts-for-sale
> On Jan 20, 2015 9:24 AM, "stefkr2--- via KRnet" 
> wrote:
>
> > Kr friends,
> > I have maybey a stupid question.
> > We are almost at the point that we will start with the engine mount. So I
> > have heard that there is a possability to calculate the distance. So
> this I
> > will all understand. I want to do 1 weight And ballance sesion (2 pax, 1
> > pax, full fuel, low fuel).
> > I want to do an exstra weight sesion without Wings. This all outside. Is
> > there a possiblity to calculate all the data so I can do a w&b without
> > wings so we can do this inside, to check that the engine mount is oke. Or
> > do you all say, this is not possible And you need for a good check in all
> > times the wings.
> > Greets and thank you
> > Stef
> >
> > --
> > Steph and his dad are building the KR-2S see
> > http://www.masttotaalconcept.nl/kr2
> >
> >
> >
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KR> generator emissions

[tommy waymack]

My Revmaster alternator is an early version with magnets that loose their
charge over time.Had them recharged one time and they worked well but lost
there power again.I was surprised to find out how long I could fly without
much generation.Made a few gatherings,cross countries,with little or no
alternator.My volt meter is a useful tool in the cockpit.Tommy W.
On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 7:42 PM, Joe via KRnet  wrote:

> They got this flexible solar panel that is so thin you could put it on the
> wing and not effect anything
>
> -Original Message-
> From: "Chris Prata via KRnet" 
> Sent: ?1/?18/?2015 1:11 PM
> To: "krnet at list.krnet.org" 
> Subject: Re: KR> generator emissions
>
> what about a small slip-stream generator, maybe retractable-deployable, or
> solar panel under the canopy?
>
> > Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2015 09:13:28 -0500
> > To: ml at n56ml.com; krnet at list.krnet.org
> > Subject: Re: KR> generator emissions
> > From: krnet at list.krnet.org
> >
> > On 1/17/2015 11:13 PM, Mark Langford via KRnet wrote:
> > > KRnetHeads,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > But the most surprising thing about the flight was that with no
> > > generator charging it, the battery only dropped .2V in an hour of
> > > flight!  This is a 6 year-old Odyssey 680 AGM battery that started
> > > N56ML for years.  The Compufire is supposed to fire down to 7V...and
> > > then I have the backup battery at the flip of a switch.
> > >
> > > I have a new 680 that I bought during the starting troubles that
> > > appeared the day of the planned Chino flight.  Might as well swap them
> > > and put the old one in place of the backup.  Maybe I don't even need a
> > > generator anymore!  just kiddin' there.
> > >
> > > I guess it's time to relearn how to use this ancient-but-expensive
> > > oscilloscope I inherited from Jim Hill several years ago...
> >
> >  Tony B said " Put a starter on your plane. Recharge the battery
> > every night.
> >  At fly in's, you will get 17 starts  before your battery will cause
> > a problem"
> >  Saves quite a bit of Alternator weight, Virg
> >
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KR> Ken Atkinson's English KR2S website

[tommy waymack]

The problem noted with the canopy handle sounded a little picky at first
but it was the first indication that my KR might have a similar problem.For
years I had flown my KR with a canopy handle that protruded about an inch
and 2 inches long in the slipstream.Never noticed any problem until I read
the article.For years I had a tricky landing anomoly.When I lowered the
tail it wanted to turn to the left or right and I just expected it and got
used to it thinking it was xwind or a burble.Decided to try
something,removed the handle from the side of the canopy.Landing anomoly
gone.The vortex caused by the change in angle of attach was pushing the
rudder and creating an unstable condition in yaw.Thanks to the information
Willie and Mark made available my plane is much easier and safer to
operate.Thank you KRnet.Tommy W.
On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 9:32 PM, Mark Langford via KRnet <
krnet at list.krnet.org> wrote:

> KRnetHeads,
>
> Since it's quiet tonight, I'll throw this one out there.  Back in 2010,
> Willie Wilson posted his first flight report on Ken Atkinson's English
> KR2S.   There are several unique things about this plane...Ken built a
> custom trailer for it that facilitates off-field storage and makes the
> whole "removable wing" thing viable, and a sweet flap/drag brake to slow it
> down for his short field.   I made a web page out of it, with 14 pictures
> that Willie took.
>
> Then I went back to Liverpool on business in 2011 and arranged to see it
> in person, and took the remaining 100 or so photos, which I finally got
> around to adding this week.  I re-discovered these because I was looking
> for the front deck overhanging the firewall. This example is not exactly
> what I had in mind, but it does show several ways to retain the firewall
> while supporting the front deck and cowling.  Note the use of optimized
> thin sheet metal (looks like stainless, unless it's highly polished
> "aluminium") by rolling the edges 90 degrees to increase resistance to
> bending.
>
>  There is a lot of meticulous attention to detail in this plane, proving
> that a "clean" plane can be built on a budget, with a little ingenuity.
> See http://www.krnet.org/krs/katkinson/ for details. The passenger seat
> was converted to an in-flight "desk", since CAA rules have assigned such a
> low gross weight value to the KRs as to make them practically one-seaters...
>
> --
>
> Mark Langford
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> http://www.n56ml.com
>
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KR> radio

[tommy waymack]

Your're grounding the A+ aircraft power when you key the mike.Make sure the
mike key line out of the radio  is correct.Tommy W.
On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 5:59 PM, Randy Moore Newbern Tn. N318RM via KRnet <
krnet at list.krnet.org> wrote:

>
> you have a ground prob.  Randy Moore
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Robert Pesak via KRnet 
> To: KRnet 
> Sent: Wed, Oct 15, 2014 5:23 pm
> Subject: KR> radio
>
>
> Hi everyone,
> Talking radio problems, Every time I key the mike strange things happen on
> my
> panel. The trim LED lights go all the way to the down to the bottom of the
> scale,  the ammeter shows about + 20 amps, and it caused my clock to go hay
> wire. I hope this is something simple as grounding.
>  Thanks, Robert
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KR> Upside down rudder pedals

[tommy waymack]

Just had to get in on this one.Have flown my taildragger with the original
landing retracts with cable brakes,mechanical drums connected together and
activated together as per the original design.They worked pretty well
except the drums would warp with heat issues.Then I went with the fixed
landing gear and installed the Great Plains disc brakes with heel activated
cylinders.They worked ok but did not have the stopping power of the
drums.They also proved that I could be as good a dancer as Fred Astaire if
I practiced enough.Rudder sensitivity is not a problem until you add heel
brakes.My good friend Noel Breaux decided to buy Jim Hills trigear KR but
needed Jim to install a hand brake as Noel had an artifical left leg from
below the knee.Jim agreed and installed a differential hand brake to the
forward side of the front spar.Noel loved the plane and flew it till he
passed away with cancer.Stay with me.Noel's wife asked me to sell the
plane.The new owner wanted toe brakes so I changed them to the original
configuration.I kept the hand brake assembly and after some time and
thought decided to try differential hand brakes on my taildragger.At first
it appeared to be as dumb an idea as it sounds.I had to reach up  and bend
my body to reach the levers.Not a good idea when landing a KR
taildragger.The Great Plains brakes became much stronger with the levers
than with heel cylinders and that made control a problem.What I did next
would sell me on the whole project.I had a control line handle with cable
length adjustment left over from my model airplane days and came up with a
simple connection to the levers at a point half way up the lever.just a
loop on each lever that aloud me to apply the brakes without reaching
except to reach for the control line handle in my lap.Landings have become
a none event.The rudder pedals are used to point the plane and brakes are
used to stop the plane and I don't have to worry about one driving the
other.Tommy W.PS some one offered to send me a deposit on the plane and as
bad as I could the money,I just could not sell the plane.Guess they will
pry it from my cold dead hands.

KR> Photos from flight and Gathering

[tommy waymack]

Thank you for those pics,Jeff.That was my favorite route back in the day of
flying used airplanes around.What I want to know is,How do you get all
those kahones in such a small airplane?Tommy W.

KR> Nvaero

[tommy waymack]

Steve,I get it.Sounds like you made a good call to me.Tommy W.
On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 1:08 PM, Joe Davis via KRnet 
wrote:

> On 09/02/2014 05:43 AM, Mark Langford via KRnet wrote:
>
>>
>> ML at N56ML.com
>> website at http://www.N56ML.com 
>> 
>> Well said !!!
>>
>>
>>
>