subject:"All about Vietnamese Translation for Apache OpenOffice"

Name: Anh Phan
Position: Vietnamese Translator
Content: The meaning of "Relief" and "No Relief"
__

I got the translation for "Relief" and "No Relief". But I dont really know
the meaning and the effect of those terms.
So:
1. Please Create a screenshot for me, that:
a. A normal of a word, then applied the "Relief" function
b. A normal of a word, then applied the "Non Relief" function.
2. If you guys dont like the idea of screenshot, just record your sreen and
I will look at the result after changing them.
3. Thank you.

Re: All about Vietnamese Translation for Apache OpenOffice

On 21 August 2013 12:38, Mr. Phan Anh  wrote:

> Name: Anh Phan
> Position: Vietnamese Translator
> Content: The meaning of "Relief" and "No Relief"
> __
>
> I got the translation for "Relief" and "No Relief". But I dont really know
> the meaning and the effect of those terms.
> So:
> 1. Please Create a screenshot for me, that:
> a. A normal of a word, then applied the "Relief" function
> b. A normal of a word, then applied the "Non Relief" function.
> 2. If you guys dont like the idea of screenshot, just record your sreen and
> I will look at the result after changing them.
> 3. Thank you.
>

I suggest you add a english user profile to your installation, that gives
you a couple of advantages:
a) you can see how a string is used in the english version, and dont need
screenshots.
b) once you get a "vi" version you can switch fast between en/vi and
control your translation.

When you ask about a given translation (which many does), please always
provide the filename/path and stringid, that makes it possible to find the
place where you have a problem. Many words are used differently in
different strings and must be translated differently (at least for danish).

rgds
jan I.

Re: All about Vietnamese Translation for Apache OpenOffice

Thank you for your reply. I'm sorry for the missing content as you have
mentioned.
But the point is, I worry about the differences at my current is 3x and the
next 4x.
Are there any differences between them?

Re: All about Vietnamese Translation for Apache OpenOffice

On 21 August 2013 12:48, Mr. Phan Anh  wrote:

> Thank you for your reply. I'm sorry for the missing content as you have
> mentioned.
> But the point is, I worry about the differences at my current is 3x and the
> next 4x.
> Are there any differences between them?
>

There are a small number of 3.4 strings where the english text have changed
(f.x all strings with Oracle and sun microsystem). They should all be
marked as "needs works".

On the translate screen, you have a search filter at the bottom, use
catagory "needs work", then you should see all 3.4 strings that have
changed.

rgds
jan I.

Re: All about Vietnamese Translation for Apache OpenOffice

2013-08-21 Thread Rob Weir

On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 6:38 AM, Mr. Phan Anh  wrote:
> Name: Anh Phan
> Position: Vietnamese Translator
> Content: The meaning of "Relief" and "No Relief"
> __
>
> I got the translation for "Relief" and "No Relief". But I dont really know
> the meaning and the effect of those terms.

These are technical terms.  They refer to text that appears to be
raised or sunked into the page.  OpenOffice mimics these real-world
effects.

So the allowed values of  "Relief" are:

"No relief" -- normal text

"Embossed" -- this is when paper is stamped from behind to show a
raised surface.  You can see some examples here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paper_embossing

"Engraved" is to cut an image into a surface.  Like carved letters in stone.

The word "relief" in this sense means: "The projection of figures or
forms from a flat background, as in sculpture, or the apparent
projection of such shapes in a painting or drawing."

Regards,

-Rob

> So:
> 1. Please Create a screenshot for me, that:
> a. A normal of a word, then applied the "Relief" function
> b. A normal of a word, then applied the "Non Relief" function.
> 2. If you guys dont like the idea of screenshot, just record your sreen and
> I will look at the result after changing them.
> 3. Thank you.

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Re: All about Vietnamese Translation for Apache OpenOffice

2013-08-21 Thread Regina Henschel


Hi Phan ANh,

Mr. Phan Anh schrieb:

Name: Anh Phan
Position: Vietnamese Translator
Content: The meaning of "Relief" and "No Relief"


There is a direct link to the actual record in the footer of Pootle. 
Please copy the link and post it here. Then it is clear, about what term 
you are speaking. Some English words have different meanings, dependent 
on the context. I can tell you then, what the meaning is.


Kind regards
Regina


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I got the translation for "Relief" and "No Relief". But I dont really know
the meaning and the effect of those terms.
So:
1. Please Create a screenshot for me, that:
a. A normal of a word, then applied the "Relief" function
b. A normal of a word, then applied the "Non Relief" function.
2. If you guys dont like the idea of screenshot, just record your sreen and
I will look at the result after changing them.
3. Thank you.




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Re: All about Vietnamese Translation for Apache OpenOffice

Content: Unecessary strings/entries without content
_
In this url, I got about more than 14 entries that don't have the content
inside.
If they dont have the content inside. Why dont you delete it?
https://translate.apache.org/vi/aoo40/officecfg/translate.html#filter=incomplete&unit=16359748
_
There are:
1.
File:officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office.po

Locations:PresenterScreen.xcu#..PresenterScreen.PresenterScreenSettings.HelpView.HelpStrings.c.Left.value.text

2.
File:officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office.po

Locations:PresenterScreen.xcu#..PresenterScreen.PresenterScreenSettings.HelpView.HelpStrings.c.Right.value.text

3.
File:officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office.po

Locations:PresenterScreen.xcu#..PresenterScreen.PresenterScreenSettings.HelpView.HelpStrings.f.Left.value.text

4.
File:officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office.po

Locations:PresenterScreen.xcu#..PresenterScreen.PresenterScreenSettings.HelpView.HelpStrings.f.Right.value.text

5.
File:officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office.po

Locations:PresenterScreen.xcu#..PresenterScreen.PresenterScreenSettings.HelpView.HelpStrings.i.Left.value.text

6.
File:officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office.po

Locations:PresenterScreen.xcu#..PresenterScreen.PresenterScreenSettings.HelpView.HelpStrings.i.Right.value.text

7.
File:officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office.po

Locations:PresenterScreen.xcu#..PresenterScreen.PresenterScreenSettings.HelpView.HelpStrings.l.Left.value.text

8.
File:officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office.po

Locations:PresenterScreen.xcu#..PresenterScreen.PresenterScreenSettings.HelpView.HelpStrings.l.Right.value.text

9.
File:officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office.po

Locations:PresenterScreen.xcu#..PresenterScreen.PresenterScreenSettings.HelpView.HelpStrings.n.Left.value.text

10.
File:officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office.po

Locations:PresenterScreen.xcu#..PresenterScreen.PresenterScreenSettings.HelpView.HelpStrings.n.Right.value.text

11.
File:officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office.po

Locations:PresenterScreen.xcu#..PresenterScreen.PresenterScreenSettings.HelpView.HelpStrings.p.Left.value.text

12.
File:officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office.po

Locations:PresenterScreen.xcu#..PresenterScreen.PresenterScreenSettings.HelpView.HelpStrings.p.Right.value.text

13.
File:officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office.po

Locations:PresenterScreen.xcu#..PresenterScreen.PresenterScreenSettings.HelpView.HelpStrings.t.Left.value.text

14.
File:officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office.po

Locations:PresenterScreen.xcu#..PresenterScreen.PresenterScreenSettings.HelpView.HelpStrings.t.Right.value.text

Re: All about Vietnamese Translation for Apache OpenOffice

Subject: Translation Entry With spaces or Without Spaces
_
1.File:officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office.po

Locations:TableWizard.xcu#..TableWizard.TableWizard.business.Tables.contacts.Fields.postalcode.Name.value.text

Content of Entry: PostalCode

2.File:officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office.po

Locations:TableWizard.xcu#..TableWizard.TableWizard.business.Tables.contacts.Fields.stateorprovince.ShortName.value.text

Content Entry: StateProvi
__

As you can see from above There were some entries ( I just quoted 2 of
them, there are more), that I have a wonder.

Assume, I have the string with the format "XY",
but "XY" is the combination from "X" and "Y"
and "X" has the meaning "Z" in my native language, the same with "Y" with
the meaning of "T"
I want to ask that, when I translate the "XY" entry into my native
language, what is the right format for my translation?

Is it 1) or 2)

1. "XY" = "ZT" (without space between Z and T)
2. "XY" = "Z T" (with space between Z and T)

When I worked with other projects on Transifex, I often use the 2)
solution. The other maintainers of those project also give me the solution
of 2).
But I wonder: what is the solution/rule in AOO?

Re: All about Vietnamese Translation for Apache OpenOffice

On 21 August 2013 19:27, Mr. Phan Anh  wrote:

> Content: Unecessary strings/entries without content
> _
> In this url, I got about more than 14 entries that don't have the content
> inside.
> If they dont have the content inside. Why dont you delete it?
>
> https://translate.apache.org/vi/aoo40/officecfg/translate.html#filter=incomplete&unit=16359748
> _
> There are:
> 1.
> File:officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office.po
>
>
> Locations:PresenterScreen.xcu#..PresenterScreen.PresenterScreenSettings.HelpView.HelpStrings.c.Left.value.text
>
> 2.
> File:officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office.po
>
>
> Locations:PresenterScreen.xcu#..PresenterScreen.PresenterScreenSettings.HelpView.HelpStrings.c.Right.value.text
>
> 3.
> File:officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office.po
>
>
> Locations:PresenterScreen.xcu#..PresenterScreen.PresenterScreenSettings.HelpView.HelpStrings.f.Left.value.text
>
> 4.
> File:officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office.po
>
>
> Locations:PresenterScreen.xcu#..PresenterScreen.PresenterScreenSettings.HelpView.HelpStrings.f.Right.value.text
>
> 5.
> File:officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office.po
>
>
> Locations:PresenterScreen.xcu#..PresenterScreen.PresenterScreenSettings.HelpView.HelpStrings.i.Left.value.text
>
> 6.
> File:officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office.po
>
>
> Locations:PresenterScreen.xcu#..PresenterScreen.PresenterScreenSettings.HelpView.HelpStrings.i.Right.value.text
>
> 7.
> File:officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office.po
>
>
> Locations:PresenterScreen.xcu#..PresenterScreen.PresenterScreenSettings.HelpView.HelpStrings.l.Left.value.text
>
> 8.
> File:officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office.po
>
>
> Locations:PresenterScreen.xcu#..PresenterScreen.PresenterScreenSettings.HelpView.HelpStrings.l.Right.value.text
>
> 9.
> File:officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office.po
>
>
> Locations:PresenterScreen.xcu#..PresenterScreen.PresenterScreenSettings.HelpView.HelpStrings.n.Left.value.text
>
> 10.
> File:officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office.po
>
>
> Locations:PresenterScreen.xcu#..PresenterScreen.PresenterScreenSettings.HelpView.HelpStrings.n.Right.value.text
>
> 11.
> File:officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office.po
>
>
> Locations:PresenterScreen.xcu#..PresenterScreen.PresenterScreenSettings.HelpView.HelpStrings.p.Left.value.text
>
> 12.
> File:officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office.po
>
>
> Locations:PresenterScreen.xcu#..PresenterScreen.PresenterScreenSettings.HelpView.HelpStrings.p.Right.value.text
>
> 13.
> File:officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office.po
>
>
> Locations:PresenterScreen.xcu#..PresenterScreen.PresenterScreenSettings.HelpView.HelpStrings.t.Left.value.text
>
> 14.
> File:officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office.po
>
>
> Locations:PresenterScreen.xcu#..PresenterScreen.PresenterScreenSettings.HelpView.HelpStrings.t.Right.value.text
>

When a string is no longer needed, it is typically either changed to "-"
(whilch you will also find) or "" (as you have found)

This is done for 2 reasons:
1) If it was a mistake, and the developer finds out, it can be activated
again, without having to merge all NL.
2) not to break compabitility, if removed we would need to update all NL,
which is quite a job.

They are normally deleted just before translation start on a new release
(not micro release == no string changes), and as far as I know it happened
like that with 4.0.

So you right, they should, and will, be removed, its just a matter of
timing.

rgds
jan I.

Re: All about Vietnamese Translation for Apache OpenOffice

On 21 August 2013 19:52, Mr. Phan Anh  wrote:

> Subject: Translation Entry With spaces or Without Spaces
> _
> 1.File:officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office.po
>
>
> Locations:TableWizard.xcu#..TableWizard.TableWizard.business.Tables.contacts.Fields.postalcode.Name.value.text
>
> Content of Entry: PostalCode
>
> 2.File:officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office.po
>
>
> Locations:TableWizard.xcu#..TableWizard.TableWizard.business.Tables.contacts.Fields.stateorprovince.ShortName.value.text
>
> Content Entry: StateProvi
> __
>
> As you can see from above There were some entries ( I just quoted 2 of
> them, there are more), that I have a wonder.
>
> Assume, I have the string with the format "XY",
> but "XY" is the combination from "X" and "Y"
> and "X" has the meaning "Z" in my native language, the same with "Y" with
> the meaning of "T"
> I want to ask that, when I translate the "XY" entry into my native
> language, what is the right format for my translation?
>
> Is it 1) or 2)
>
> 1. "XY" = "ZT" (without space between Z and T)
> 2. "XY" = "Z T" (with space between Z and T)
>
> When I worked with other projects on Transifex, I often use the 2)
> solution. The other maintainers of those project also give me the solution
> of 2).
> But I wonder: what is the solution/rule in AOO?
>

When I look at the examples you provide XY, I would go for 2), but let me
give you another example just to be sure:

   "PostalCode" would translate to "post nummer" in danish if used
in a sentence, but if used as a indicated name it would be "postnummer".

so no rules without exceptions. I find this this is actually one of the
more difficult parts of translation, some languages tends to split the
words, where other use both prefix and postfix to modify the word.


I hope this helps.
rgds
jan I.

Re: All about Vietnamese Translation for Apache OpenOffice

Content: Reply to Jani
__
1. Thank you for your reply, that helped me a lot when dealing with my
current translation.
2. I want to apologize to you because you have mentioned the StringID at
the footer of each entry but I forgot to use it.
>From the next email, I will include the StringID to my issuse/wonder to the
mailing list.
3. As you mentioned, the deadline for my translation is Sep 6th. I would
like to ask you about the time for the next release after Sep 6th.

Re: All about Vietnamese Translation for Apache OpenOffice

On 21 August 2013 20:21, Mr. Phan Anh  wrote:

> Content: Reply to Jani
> __
> 1. Thank you for your reply, that helped me a lot when dealing with my
> current translation.
> 2. I want to apologize to you because you have mentioned the StringID at
> the footer of each entry but I forgot to use it.
> From the next email, I will include the StringID to my issuse/wonder to the
> mailing list.
>
no need to apologize, your last mail was perfect, and I found the strings
within seconds.


> 3. As you mentioned, the deadline for my translation is Sep 6th. I would
> like to ask you about the time for the next release after Sep 6th.
>

We dont have a fixed release date for 4.1, but my best guess (based on our
discussions) is December/January.

Please be aware, that you only need to complete UI, for getting it release,
help can be translated later.


rgds
jan I.

Re: All about Vietnamese Translation for Apache OpenOffice

Content: Reason to ask about the next release after Sep 6th.

1. I think in this and next week or at least, in this month, I will full
fill the translation of Vietnamese.
2. The more time I spent for this translation, I also make friend with my
buddy "google" to make a deeper about the previous translator of VN.
Those translator has quit the project, move to Libre since the awareness of
commericial issues which made by Oracle from last year.
By the donation of all the project to Apache community, Oracle now is a
retired maintainer of OO. So, joining in this community is a great choice
for mine.
The point is: The people or the my friends dont like the localization
version of previous translators. And also with me, they made huge confusion
not just to me, but also with normal users.
And the thing is, I now one of the translator for Vietnamese, but, I have
to say honestly, I will have to reedit all the strings in base and core to
get out the confusing emotion from users.
>From September to December, that's about 16 weeks, I think I could do that
process: reeditting.



On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 1:30 AM, janI  wrote:

> On 21 August 2013 20:21, Mr. Phan Anh  wrote:
>
> > Content: Reply to Jani
> > __
> > 1. Thank you for your reply, that helped me a lot when dealing with my
> > current translation.
> > 2. I want to apologize to you because you have mentioned the StringID at
> > the footer of each entry but I forgot to use it.
> > From the next email, I will include the StringID to my issuse/wonder to
> the
> > mailing list.
> >
> no need to apologize, your last mail was perfect, and I found the strings
> within seconds.
>
>
> > 3. As you mentioned, the deadline for my translation is Sep 6th. I would
> > like to ask you about the time for the next release after Sep 6th.
> >
>
> We dont have a fixed release date for 4.1, but my best guess (based on our
> discussions) is December/January.
>
> Please be aware, that you only need to complete UI, for getting it release,
> help can be translated later.
>
>
> rgds
> jan I.
>

Re: All about Vietnamese Translation for Apache OpenOffice

On 21 August 2013 20:48, Mr. Phan Anh  wrote:

> Content: Reason to ask about the next release after Sep 6th.
> 
> 1. I think in this and next week or at least, in this month, I will full
> fill the translation of Vietnamese.
> 2. The more time I spent for this translation, I also make friend with my
> buddy "google" to make a deeper about the previous translator of VN.
> Those translator has quit the project, move to Libre since the awareness of
> commericial issues which made by Oracle from last year.
> By the donation of all the project to Apache community, Oracle now is a
> retired maintainer of OO. So, joining in this community is a great choice
> for mine.
> The point is: The people or the my friends dont like the localization
> version of previous translators. And also with me, they made huge confusion
> not just to me, but also with normal users.
> And the thing is, I now one of the translator for Vietnamese, but, I have
> to say honestly, I will have to reedit all the strings in base and core to
> get out the confusing emotion from users.
> From September to December, that's about 16 weeks, I think I could do that
> process: reeditting.
>

We are all volunteers in AOO, some people invest a lot of time, some less,
typically it varies, but its all welcome and bring us forward. Thats the
great thing about ASF, its like having a job with no big boss telling you
what to do. Any pressure you feel come from yourself.

Going through all strings is a major task and nobody expect you to finish
that before 4.0.1. Remember once you are finished with translation you also
need to do some testing, for that you will need at least a language pack,
which many in here can generate.

Remember "good things take time".

rgds
jan i.



>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 1:30 AM, janI  wrote:
>
> > On 21 August 2013 20:21, Mr. Phan Anh  wrote:
> >
> > > Content: Reply to Jani
> > > __
> > > 1. Thank you for your reply, that helped me a lot when dealing with my
> > > current translation.
> > > 2. I want to apologize to you because you have mentioned the StringID
> at
> > > the footer of each entry but I forgot to use it.
> > > From the next email, I will include the StringID to my issuse/wonder to
> > the
> > > mailing list.
> > >
> > no need to apologize, your last mail was perfect, and I found the strings
> > within seconds.
> >
> >
> > > 3. As you mentioned, the deadline for my translation is Sep 6th. I
> would
> > > like to ask you about the time for the next release after Sep 6th.
> > >
> >
> > We dont have a fixed release date for 4.1, but my best guess (based on
> our
> > discussions) is December/January.
> >
> > Please be aware, that you only need to complete UI, for getting it
> release,
> > help can be translated later.
> >
> >
> > rgds
> > jan I.
> >
>

Re: All about Vietnamese Translation for Apache OpenOffice

But, Experience and enthusiasm can beat the old glory, too.

Re: All about Vietnamese Translation for Apache OpenOffice

2013-08-21 Thread Rob Weir

On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 3:11 PM, Mr. Phan Anh  wrote:
> But, Experience and enthusiasm can beat the old glory, too.

One approach is to complete the existing translation for AOO 4.0.1,
and use that as a way to get more people interested in the Vietnamese
translation.  If we have more people working on it then it would be
possible to do a re-work of the translation for 4.1.

So use the 4.0.1 translation as a "hook" to get more interest in the
task.For example, we could publicize this on our project blog,
Facebook page, etc.  There may be Vietnamese tech sites we can use as
well, providing interviews for them.

-Rob

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Re: All about Vietnamese Translation for Apache OpenOffice

"hook", lol bro, that's a funny world.
see you tomorow.

Re: All about Vietnamese Translation for Apache OpenOffice

2013-08-21 Thread Regina Henschel

Hi Phan Anh,

Mr. Phan Anh schrieb:

Content: Unecessary strings/entries without content
_
In this url, I got about more than 14 entries that don't have the content
inside.
If they dont have the content inside. Why dont you delete it?
https://translate.apache.org/vi/aoo40/officecfg/translate.html#filter=incomplete&unit=16359748

The strings belong to the presenter console. To use the presenter
console, you need to have a second monitor, usually a projector.
Configure it so, that they are independent, not that the projector is a
clone of your PC monitor.

Launch Impress and load a presentation. Goto menu Slide Show > Slide
Show settings. In the lower part of the dialog you see the section
"Multiple Displays" and a field with label "presentation display". If
you have configured the two displays correctly, this field is enabled
and you can then choose which display shall show the presentation in
full screen.

Then start the presentation. The second monitor shows the presentation
in full screen and your monitor shows the presentation console. In the
presentation console, you have a button at bottom, right to call the help.

The help is on screen and shows what shortcut keys have what meanings.
The strings you have posted belong to this help.

If the presenter console don't work for you, please ask here. If it is
indeed an error, write an issue. The presenter console is no longer an
extension but integrated and should work. You find it in source code in
the folder main/sdext/source/presenter.

Kind regards
Regina

_
There are:
1.
File:officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office.po

Locations:PresenterScreen.xcu#..PresenterScreen.PresenterScreenSettings.HelpView.HelpStrings.c.Left.value.text

2.
File:officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office.po

Locations:PresenterScreen.xcu#..PresenterScreen.PresenterScreenSettings.HelpView.HelpStrings.c.Right.value.text

3.
File:officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office.po

Locations:PresenterScreen.xcu#..PresenterScreen.PresenterScreenSettings.HelpView.HelpStrings.f.Left.value.text

4.
File:officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office.po

Locations:PresenterScreen.xcu#..PresenterScreen.PresenterScreenSettings.HelpView.HelpStrings.f.Right.value.text

5.
File:officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office.po

Locations:PresenterScreen.xcu#..PresenterScreen.PresenterScreenSettings.HelpView.HelpStrings.i.Left.value.text

6.
File:officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office.po

Locations:PresenterScreen.xcu#..PresenterScreen.PresenterScreenSettings.HelpView.HelpStrings.i.Right.value.text

7.
File:officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office.po

Locations:PresenterScreen.xcu#..PresenterScreen.PresenterScreenSettings.HelpView.HelpStrings.l.Left.value.text

8.
File:officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office.po

Locations:PresenterScreen.xcu#..PresenterScreen.PresenterScreenSettings.HelpView.HelpStrings.l.Right.value.text

9.
File:officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office.po

Locations:PresenterScreen.xcu#..PresenterScreen.PresenterScreenSettings.HelpView.HelpStrings.n.Left.value.text

10.
File:officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office.po

Locations:PresenterScreen.xcu#..PresenterScreen.PresenterScreenSettings.HelpView.HelpStrings.n.Right.value.text

11.
File:officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office.po

Locations:PresenterScreen.xcu#..PresenterScreen.PresenterScreenSettings.HelpView.HelpStrings.p.Left.value.text

12.
File:officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office.po

Locations:PresenterScreen.xcu#..PresenterScreen.PresenterScreenSettings.HelpView.HelpStrings.p.Right.value.text

13.
File:officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office.po

Locations:PresenterScreen.xcu#..PresenterScreen.PresenterScreenSettings.HelpView.HelpStrings.t.Left.value.text

14.
File:officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office.po

Locations:PresenterScreen.xcu#..PresenterScreen.PresenterScreenSettings.HelpView.HelpStrings.t.Right.value.text

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Re: All about Vietnamese Translation for Apache OpenOffice

2013-08-21 Thread Regina Henschel

Hi Phan Anh,

an addition that might help you: The issue 121873 has a macro attached.
It is included into an empty text document. When you run that macro,
your AOO installation is changed in a way, that it shows the presenter
console when you run a presentation.

When you run the macro a second time the change is reversed and you get
the usual view of the presentation.

With this macro you can explore the presenter console without a second
monitor.

Kind regards
Regina

Regina Henschel schrieb:

Hi Phan Anh,

Mr. Phan Anh schrieb:

The help is on screen and shows what shortcut keys have what meanings.
The strings you have posted belong to this help.

Kind regards
Regina

_
There are:
1.
File:officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office.po

Locations:PresenterScreen.xcu#..PresenterScreen.PresenterScreenSettings.HelpView.HelpStrings.c.Left.value.text

2.
File:officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office.po

Locations:PresenterScreen.xcu#..PresenterScreen.PresenterScreenSettings.HelpView.HelpStrings.c.Right.value.text

3.
File:officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office.po

Locations:PresenterScreen.xcu#..PresenterScreen.PresenterScreenSettings.HelpView.HelpStrings.f.Left.value.text

4.
File:officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office.po

Locations:PresenterScreen.xcu#..PresenterScreen.PresenterScreenSettings.HelpView.HelpStrings.f.Right.value.text

5.
File:officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office.po

Locations:PresenterScreen.xcu#..PresenterScreen.PresenterScreenSettings.HelpView.HelpStrings.i.Left.value.text

6.
File:officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office.po

Locations:PresenterScreen.xcu#..PresenterScreen.PresenterScreenSettings.HelpView.HelpStrings.i.Right.value.text

7.
File:officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office.po

Locations:PresenterScreen.xcu#..PresenterScreen.PresenterScreenSettings.HelpView.HelpStrings.l.Left.value.text

8.
File:officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office.po

Locations:PresenterScreen.xcu#..PresenterScreen.PresenterScreenSettings.HelpView.HelpStrings.l.Right.value.text

9.
File:officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office.po

Locations:PresenterScreen.xcu#..PresenterScreen.PresenterScreenSettings.HelpView.HelpStrings.n.Left.value.text

10.
File:officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office.po

Locations:PresenterScreen.xcu#..PresenterScreen.PresenterScreenSettings.HelpView.HelpStrings.n.Right.value.text

11.
File:officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office.po

Locations:PresenterScreen.xcu#..PresenterScreen.PresenterScreenSettings.HelpView.HelpStrings.p.Left.value.text

12.
File:officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office.po

Locations:PresenterScreen.xcu#..PresenterScreen.PresenterScreenSettings.HelpView.HelpStrings.p.Right.value.text

13.
File:officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office.po

Locations:PresenterScreen.xcu#..PresenterScreen.PresenterScreenSettings.HelpView.HelpStrings.t.Left.value.text

14.
File:officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office.po

Locations:PresenterScreen.xcu#..PresenterScreen.PresenterScreenSettings.HelpView.HelpStrings.t.Right.value.text

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Re: All about Vietnamese Translation for Apache OpenOffice

2013-08-21 Thread Andrea Pescetti


janI wrote:

On 21 August 2013 19:52, Mr. Phan Anh wrote:

Locations:TableWizard.xcu#..TableWizard.TableWizard.business.Tables.contacts.Fields.postalcode.Name.value.text
Content of Entry: PostalCode
2.File:officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office.po
Locations:TableWizard.xcu#..TableWizard.TableWizard.business.Tables.contacts.Fields.stateorprovince.ShortName.value.text
Content Entry: StateProvi ...
1. "XY" = "ZT" (without space between Z and T)
2. "XY" = "Z T" (with space between Z and T)

When I look at the examples you provide XY, I would go for 2), but let me
give you another example just to be sure:
"PostalCode" would translate to "post nummer" in danish if used
in a sentence, but if used as a indicated name it would be "postnummer".


Yes, in these two cases they are "machine names" that are supposed to be 
without spaces since they seem to be field names (but I didn't look deep 
init) and in those it's better, for compatibility, to avoid spaces. 
Anyway, this is a particular case.


Commenting on the other remarks about Vietnamese: if you manage to get a 
4.0.1 out with the same quality as what already exists, it is very 
likely that you can use it to gather some more people to review the 
translation. So I would recommend to target 4.0.1 too for the initial 
translation and focus on the review for 4.1.


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: All about Vietnamese Translation for Apache OpenOffice

This is pretty good, I have never experienced this kind of "simulation"
feature.
Thank you.


On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 3:49 AM, Regina Henschel wrote:

> Hi Phan Anh,
>
> an addition that might help you: The issue 121873 has a macro attached. It
> is included into an empty text document. When you run that macro, your AOO
> installation is changed in a way, that it shows the presenter console when
> you run a presentation.
>
> When you run the macro a second time the change is reversed and you get
> the usual view of the presentation.
>
> With this macro you can explore the presenter console without a second
> monitor.
>
> Kind regards
> Regina
>
> Regina Henschel schrieb:
>
>  Hi Phan Anh,
>>
>> Mr. Phan Anh schrieb:
>>
>>> Content: Unecessary strings/entries without content
>>> __**___
>>> In this url, I got about more than 14 entries that don't have the content
>>> inside.
>>> If they dont have the content inside. Why dont you delete it?
>>> https://translate.apache.org/**vi/aoo40/officecfg/translate.**
>>> html#filter=incomplete&unit=**16359748
>>>
>>>
>> The strings belong to the presenter console. To use the presenter
>> console, you need to have a second monitor, usually a projector.
>> Configure it so, that they are independent, not that the projector is a
>> clone of your PC monitor.
>>
>> Launch Impress and load a presentation. Goto menu Slide Show > Slide
>> Show settings. In the lower part of the dialog you see the section
>> "Multiple Displays" and a field with label "presentation display". If
>> you have configured the two displays correctly, this field is enabled
>> and you can then choose which display shall show the presentation in
>> full screen.
>>
>> Then start the presentation. The second monitor shows the presentation
>> in full screen and your monitor shows the presentation console. In the
>> presentation console, you have a button at bottom, right to call the help.
>>
>> The help is on screen and shows what shortcut keys have what meanings.
>> The strings you have posted belong to this help.
>>
>> If the presenter console don't work for you, please ask here. If it is
>> indeed an error, write an issue. The presenter console is no longer an
>> extension but integrated and should work. You find it in source code in
>> the folder main/sdext/source/presenter.
>>
>> Kind regards
>> Regina
>>
>>  __**___
>>> There are:
>>> 1.
>>> File:officecfg/registry/data/**org/openoffice/Office.po
>>>
>>> Locations:PresenterScreen.xcu#**..PresenterScreen.**
>>> PresenterScreenSettings.**HelpView.HelpStrings.c.Left.**value.text
>>>
>>>
>>> 2.
>>> File:officecfg/registry/data/**org/openoffice/Office.po
>>>
>>> Locations:PresenterScreen.xcu#**..PresenterScreen.**
>>> PresenterScreenSettings.**HelpView.HelpStrings.c.Right.**value.text
>>>
>>>
>>> 3.
>>> File:officecfg/registry/data/**org/openoffice/Office.po
>>>
>>> Locations:PresenterScreen.xcu#**..PresenterScreen.**
>>> PresenterScreenSettings.**HelpView.HelpStrings.f.Left.**value.text
>>>
>>>
>>> 4.
>>> File:officecfg/registry/data/**org/openoffice/Office.po
>>>
>>> Locations:PresenterScreen.xcu#**..PresenterScreen.**
>>> PresenterScreenSettings.**HelpView.HelpStrings.f.Right.**value.text
>>>
>>>
>>> 5.
>>> File:officecfg/registry/data/**org/openoffice/Office.po
>>>
>>> Locations:PresenterScreen.xcu#**..PresenterScreen.**
>>> PresenterScreenSettings.**HelpView.HelpStrings.i.Left.**value.text
>>>
>>>
>>> 6.
>>> File:officecfg/registry/data/**org/openoffice/Office.po
>>>
>>> Locations:PresenterScreen.xcu#**..PresenterScreen.**
>>> PresenterScreenSettings.**HelpView.HelpStrings.i.Right.**value.text
>>>
>>>
>>> 7.
>>> File:officecfg/registry/data/**org/openoffice/Office.po
>>>
>>> Locations:PresenterScreen.xcu#**..PresenterScreen.**
>>> PresenterScreenSettings.**HelpView.HelpStrings.l.Left.**value.text
>>>
>>>
>>> 8.
>>> File:officecfg/registry/data/**org/openoffice/Office.po
>>>
>>> Locations:PresenterScreen.xcu#**..PresenterScreen.**
>>> PresenterScreenSettings.**HelpView.HelpStrings.l.Right.**value.text
>>>
>>>
>>> 9.
>>> File:officecfg/registry/data/**org/openoffice/Office.po
>>>
>>> Locations:PresenterScreen.xcu#**..PresenterScreen.**
>>> PresenterScreenSettings.**HelpView.HelpStrings.n.Left.**value.text
>>>
>>>
>>> 10.
>>> File:officecfg/registry/data/**org/openoffice/Office.po
>>>
>>> Locations:PresenterScreen.xcu#**..PresenterScreen.**
>>> PresenterScreenSettings.**HelpView.HelpStrings.n.Right.**value.text
>>>
>>>
>>> 11.
>>> File:officecfg/registry/data/**org/openoffice/Office.po
>>>
>>> Locations:PresenterScreen.xcu#**..PresenterScreen.**
>>> PresenterScreenSettings.**HelpView.HelpStrings.p.Left.**value.text
>>>
>>>
>>> 12.
>>> File:officecfg/registry/data/**org/openoffice/Office.po
>>>
>>> Locations:PresenterScreen.xcu#**..PresenterScreen.**
>>> PresenterScreenSettin

Re: All about Vietnamese Translation for Apache OpenOffice

Subject: The differences and suggestion for "English" Language
___
Currently, I am translating this part:
https://translate.apache.org/vi/aoo40/scp2/

>From the list that listed all the language file for AOO 4x, I realized one
thing from Transifex.
They put the type of English in:
English for Britain: English British
English for US: American English

In the name of English part in AOO 4x. We only have this entry "English"
for all the relevant.
Should we seperate those things in British English/American English/
Austrilian English/ Singaporean English/ Indian English?

Re: All about Vietnamese Translation for Apache OpenOffice

2013-08-22 Thread janI

On 22 August 2013 11:27, Mr. Phan Anh  wrote:

> Subject: The differences and suggestion for "English" Language
> ___
> Currently, I am translating this part:
> https://translate.apache.org/vi/aoo40/scp2/
>
> From the list that listed all the language file for AOO 4x, I realized one
> thing from Transifex.
> They put the type of English in:
> English for Britain: English British
> English for US: American English
>
> In the name of English part in AOO 4x. We only have this entry "English"
> for all the relevant.
> Should we seperate those things in British English/American English/
> Austrilian English/ Singaporean English/ Indian English?
>

We do currently have different types of english, but since there are no
active NL communities only en-UK is uploaded to pootle.

Remark en-UK is a real translation (however small) from the source language
which is en-US.

So yes we should indeed separate is it is done now, more en versions might
follow later.

rgds
jan I.

Re: All about Vietnamese Translation for Apache OpenOffice

Subject: Who is in charge of Vietnamese Translation?

Since noone is currently joining in my native language, Am I in charge of
my translation for VN?

Re: All about Vietnamese Translation for Apache OpenOffice

2013-08-22 Thread janI

On 22 August 2013 11:41, Mr. Phan Anh  wrote:

> Subject: Who is in charge of Vietnamese Translation?
> 
> Since noone is currently joining in my native language, Am I in charge of
> my translation for VN?
>

yes. That how it happens, you volunteer for something and end up being in
charge :-)

rgds
jan I.

Re: All about Vietnamese Translation for Apache OpenOffice

2013-08-22 Thread Rob Weir

On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 5:41 AM, Mr. Phan Anh  wrote:
> Subject: Who is in charge of Vietnamese Translation?
> 
> Since noone is currently joining in my native language, Am I in charge of
> my translation for VN?

Whoever "takes charge" is "in charge".  We're a meritocracy.
Sometimes we call it a "do-ocracy".   Those who do the work are in
charge.

Regards,

-Rob

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Re: All about Vietnamese Translation for Apache OpenOffice

Subject: Strange strings
___
https://translate.apache.org/vi/aoo40/sw/translate.html#unit=16378046
https://translate.apache.org/vi/aoo40/sw/translate.html#unit=16378055
https://translate.apache.org/vi/aoo40/sw/translate.html#unit=16378058
https://translate.apache.org/vi/aoo40/sw/translate.html#unit=16378062

Why is strange?

The entry has this structure:
. XYZ:

But by the previous translation such as:
https://translate.apache.org/vi/aoo40/sw/translate.html#unit=16377997
It doesnt have the "." in the begining.

I wonder is this an issue?

Besides, the strange structure keeps one more weird thing.
That is, at the end of the ". XYZ: " is a space.
I have seen the space is marked with red mark in the translation.
I wonder in my translation, I have to keep the space at the end or I can
translate without it?

Here is a picture for a clearer look at it:
[image: Inline image 1]

Re: All about Vietnamese Translation for Apache OpenOffice

2013-08-22 Thread Regina Henschel


Hi Phan Anh,

Mr. Phan Anh schrieb:

Subject: Strange strings
___
https://translate.apache.org/vi/aoo40/sw/translate.html#unit=16378046
https://translate.apache.org/vi/aoo40/sw/translate.html#unit=16378055
https://translate.apache.org/vi/aoo40/sw/translate.html#unit=16378058
https://translate.apache.org/vi/aoo40/sw/translate.html#unit=16378062

Why is strange?

The entry has this structure:
. XYZ:

But by the previous translation such as:
https://translate.apache.org/vi/aoo40/sw/translate.html#unit=16377997
It doesnt have the "." in the begining.

I wonder is this an issue?


Please start AOO and take a Writer document. Look now where this string 
is shown. You find it in the sidebar in the properties deck in the panel 
"Page". It belongs to the toolbar item "Margin:". Wenn you open the list 
and hover with the mouse over the items, you see a tooltip with the size 
of the margins. The strings, which you have to translate, belong to this 
tooltip. The dot is a delimiter between the parts. It is up to you to 
decide, whether a dot is the right character for a delimiter in your 
language. I don't know. Same for the space. Try out which form is good 
to read, when all parts a concatenated.


Kind regards
Regina




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Re: All about Vietnamese Translation for Apache OpenOffice

Thank you.


On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 4:00 AM, Regina Henschel wrote:

> Hi Phan Anh,
>
> Mr. Phan Anh schrieb:
>
>> Subject: Strange strings
>>
>> ___
>> https://translate.apache.org/**vi/aoo40/sw/translate.html#**unit=16378046
>> https://translate.apache.org/**vi/aoo40/sw/translate.html#**unit=16378055
>> https://translate.apache.org/**vi/aoo40/sw/translate.html#**unit=16378058
>> https://translate.apache.org/**vi/aoo40/sw/translate.html#**unit=16378062
>>
>> Why is strange?
>>
>> The entry has this structure:
>> . XYZ:
>>
>> But by the previous translation such as:
>> https://translate.apache.org/**vi/aoo40/sw/translate.html#**unit=16377997
>> It doesnt have the "." in the begining.
>>
>> I wonder is this an issue?
>>
>
> Please start AOO and take a Writer document. Look now where this string is
> shown. You find it in the sidebar in the properties deck in the panel
> "Page". It belongs to the toolbar item "Margin:". Wenn you open the list
> and hover with the mouse over the items, you see a tooltip with the size of
> the margins. The strings, which you have to translate, belong to this
> tooltip. The dot is a delimiter between the parts. It is up to you to
> decide, whether a dot is the right character for a delimiter in your
> language. I don't know. Same for the space. Try out which form is good to
> read, when all parts a concatenated.
>
> Kind regards
> Regina
>
>
>
>
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Re: All about Vietnamese Translation for Apache OpenOffice

2013-08-24 Thread Mr. Phan Anh

http://forum.openoffice.org/vi/forum/

Here is a link to the forum in Vietnamese Localization.
But sadly, this forum has been closed.
Is there any chance that I can get the permission to reopen this forum?
And who is in charge of this permission?

Re: All about Vietnamese Translation for Apache OpenOffice

2013-08-24 Thread janI

On Aug 24, 2013 9:30 PM, "Mr. Phan Anh"  wrote:
>
> http://forum.openoffice.org/vi/forum/
>
> Here is a link to the forum in Vietnamese Localization.
> But sadly, this forum has been closed.
> Is there any chance that I can get the permission to reopen this forum?
> And who is in charge of this permission?

I am not sure why you think is closed? it responds and you can register
users and add posts.

But there are no forum admins and no moderators, both needed for a forum to
keep healthy. I am one of the vm-admins responsible for the technical setup
of all forums but not content.

So technically it is running, if not please advice me, whats not running.

rgds
jan i

Re: All about Vietnamese Translation for Apache OpenOffice

2013-08-24 Thread Mr. Phan Anh

1. Here is a link about this action on locked-situation:
Vietnamese forums are a spammers' paradise (View topic) • Apache OpenOffice
Community 
Forum

>From this link, we can see that a bad situation about the controlling of
mod/moderators for this native forums is bad.
So the maintainers of OO (before Apache) decided to closed it, users have
registered just seen it and this site was at the status of read-only.

2. Maybe, I am going to create a thread about this situation and volunteer
as a moderator for reopening.

Re: All about Vietnamese Translation for Apache OpenOffice

2013-08-25 Thread Mr. Phan Anh

Subject: Wonders about error on checking of "Ending punctuation"

https://translate.apache.org/vi/aoo40/sc/source/ui/sidebar.po/translate/#unit=16362946

I don't know about the reason why I got this issues.
I got about 100 of those notification from Pootle.

Re: All about Vietnamese Translation for Apache OpenOffice

2013-08-25 Thread janI

On 25 August 2013 22:16, Mr. Phan Anh  wrote:

> Subject: Wonders about error on checking of "Ending punctuation"
> 
>
> https://translate.apache.org/vi/aoo40/sc/source/ui/sidebar.po/translate/#unit=16362946
>
> I don't know about the reason why I got this issues.
>

look at
http://docs.translatehouse.org/projects/translate-toolkit/en/latest/commands/pofilter_tests.html#endpunc

Bear in mind many of these checks are false positives, it might very well
be that your language uses less or more punctations than EN-US.

See the checks just as a question mark, not as an error.

rgds
jan I.



> I got about 100 of those notification from Pootle.
>

Re: All about Vietnamese Translation for Apache OpenOffice

2013-08-25 Thread Mr. Phan Anh

ok, got it. thanks. I have always worried about this.


On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 3:22 AM, janI  wrote:

> On 25 August 2013 22:16, Mr. Phan Anh  wrote:
>
> > Subject: Wonders about error on checking of "Ending punctuation"
> > 
> >
> >
> https://translate.apache.org/vi/aoo40/sc/source/ui/sidebar.po/translate/#unit=16362946
> >
> > I don't know about the reason why I got this issues.
> >
>
> look at
>
> http://docs.translatehouse.org/projects/translate-toolkit/en/latest/commands/pofilter_tests.html#endpunc
>
> Bear in mind many of these checks are false positives, it might very well
> be that your language uses less or more punctations than EN-US.
>
> See the checks just as a question mark, not as an error.
>
> rgds
> jan I.
>
>
>
> > I got about 100 of those notification from Pootle.
> >
>

Re: All about Vietnamese Translation for Apache OpenOffice

Subject: Strange and Unable to save the strings

https://translate.apache.org/vi/aoo40/svtools/source/control.po/translate/#unit=16371527
https://translate.apache.org/vi/aoo40/svtools/source/control.po/translate/#unit=16371529
https://translate.apache.org/vi/aoo40/svtools/source/control.po/translate/#unit=16371529
https://translate.apache.org/vi/aoo40/svtools/source/control.po/translate/#unit=16371532

I have tried to submit the translation online and even I downloaded the
file, edit with poedit, then reupload, I cant change the content for those
strings.

Please help me in this.

Re: All about Vietnamese Translation for Apache OpenOffice

The same result with:
https://translate.apache.org/vi/aoo40/svtools/source/toolpanel.po/translate/#unit=16372107

Re: All about Vietnamese Translation for Apache OpenOffice

Now i can edit BUT by UPLOADING the po file.
when I edited them online, they didnt change anything.

Re: All about Vietnamese Translation for Apache OpenOffice

2013-08-26 Thread Dick Groskamp


Op 26-8-2013 19:53, Mr. Phan Anh schreef:

The same result with:
https://translate.apache.org/vi/aoo40/svtools/source/toolpanel.po/translate/#unit=16372107


Did you log in ?

It seems like I can submit the change to: Nút cuộn thanh tab, lùi về sau

English text being : Tab Panel Scroll Button, backward

Would you like me to try to submit this translation ?

--
DiGro
___
Apache OpenOffice 4.0.0 (Dutch) and scanned with Ziggo extended security 
(F-Secure)


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Re: All about Vietnamese Translation for Apache OpenOffice

2013-08-26 Thread janI

On 26 August 2013 19:50, Mr. Phan Anh  wrote:

> Subject: Strange and Unable to save the strings
> 
>
> https://translate.apache.org/vi/aoo40/svtools/source/control.po/translate/#unit=16371527
>
I just changes this one without problem. I added (jan) at the end so you
can see it.

rgds
jan I.


>
> https://translate.apache.org/vi/aoo40/svtools/source/control.po/translate/#unit=16371529
>
> https://translate.apache.org/vi/aoo40/svtools/source/control.po/translate/#unit=16371529
>
> https://translate.apache.org/vi/aoo40/svtools/source/control.po/translate/#unit=16371532
>
> I have tried to submit the translation online and even I downloaded the
> file, edit with poedit, then reupload, I cant change the content for those
> strings.
>
> Please help me in this.
>

Re: All about Vietnamese Translation for Apache OpenOffice

Thank you, now it works, but I dont know what happened.



On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 1:19 AM, janI  wrote:

> On 26 August 2013 19:50, Mr. Phan Anh  wrote:
>
> > Subject: Strange and Unable to save the strings
> > 
> >
> >
> https://translate.apache.org/vi/aoo40/svtools/source/control.po/translate/#unit=16371527
> >
> I just changes this one without problem. I added (jan) at the end so you
> can see it.
>
> rgds
> jan I.
>
>
> >
> >
> https://translate.apache.org/vi/aoo40/svtools/source/control.po/translate/#unit=16371529
> >
> >
> https://translate.apache.org/vi/aoo40/svtools/source/control.po/translate/#unit=16371529
> >
> >
> https://translate.apache.org/vi/aoo40/svtools/source/control.po/translate/#unit=16371532
> >
> > I have tried to submit the translation online and even I downloaded the
> > file, edit with poedit, then reupload, I cant change the content for
> those
> > strings.
> >
> > Please help me in this.
> >
>

Re: All about Vietnamese Translation for Apache OpenOffice

2013-08-26 Thread janI

On 26 August 2013 20:21, Mr. Phan Anh  wrote:

> Thank you, now it works, but I dont know what happened.
>

It might not be something you did. I just managed to get an unknown error,
with a couple of other VI strings.

I suspect one or more vi strings contain a multibyte combination that are
not defined in utf8, and that breaks firefox and probably also the database.

If it happens again, I suggest you open an issue, with a link to the string
causing the problem. Be aware the real problem might be +/- approx. 256
strings, it ifs a db issue. I dont think there are any pootle tools that
can help, so an admin needs to either check the db or the po files.

rgds
jan I.

>
>
> On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 1:19 AM, janI  wrote:
>
> > On 26 August 2013 19:50, Mr. Phan Anh  wrote:
> >
> > > Subject: Strange and Unable to save the strings
> > > 
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://translate.apache.org/vi/aoo40/svtools/source/control.po/translate/#unit=16371527
> > >
> > I just changes this one without problem. I added (jan) at the end so you
> > can see it.
> >
> > rgds
> > jan I.
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://translate.apache.org/vi/aoo40/svtools/source/control.po/translate/#unit=16371529
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://translate.apache.org/vi/aoo40/svtools/source/control.po/translate/#unit=16371529
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://translate.apache.org/vi/aoo40/svtools/source/control.po/translate/#unit=16371532
> > >
> > > I have tried to submit the translation online and even I downloaded the
> > > file, edit with poedit, then reupload, I cant change the content for
> > those
> > > strings.
> > >
> > > Please help me in this.
> > >
> >
>

Re: All about Vietnamese Translation for Apache OpenOffice

Can you tell me more details about this?
I was terrified by your email's content.
UTF-8 is all set for my character's style.


On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 1:52 AM, janI  wrote:

> On 26 August 2013 20:21, Mr. Phan Anh  wrote:
>
> > Thank you, now it works, but I dont know what happened.
> >
>
> It might not be something you did. I just managed to get an unknown error,
> with a couple of other VI strings.
>
> I suspect one or more vi strings contain a multibyte combination that are
> not defined in utf8, and that breaks firefox and probably also the
> database.
>
> If it happens again, I suggest you open an issue, with a link to the string
> causing the problem. Be aware the real problem might be +/- approx. 256
> strings, it ifs a db issue. I dont think there are any pootle tools that
> can help, so an admin needs to either check the db or the po files.
>
> rgds
> jan I.
>
>
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 1:19 AM, janI  wrote:
> >
> > > On 26 August 2013 19:50, Mr. Phan Anh  wrote:
> > >
> > > > Subject: Strange and Unable to save the strings
> > > > 
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://translate.apache.org/vi/aoo40/svtools/source/control.po/translate/#unit=16371527
> > > >
> > > I just changes this one without problem. I added (jan) at the end so
> you
> > > can see it.
> > >
> > > rgds
> > > jan I.
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://translate.apache.org/vi/aoo40/svtools/source/control.po/translate/#unit=16371529
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://translate.apache.org/vi/aoo40/svtools/source/control.po/translate/#unit=16371529
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://translate.apache.org/vi/aoo40/svtools/source/control.po/translate/#unit=16371532
> > > >
> > > > I have tried to submit the translation online and even I downloaded
> the
> > > > file, edit with poedit, then reupload, I cant change the content for
> > > those
> > > > strings.
> > > >
> > > > Please help me in this.
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: All about Vietnamese Translation for Apache OpenOffice

2013-08-26 Thread janI

On 26 August 2013 21:02, Mr. Phan Anh  wrote:

> Can you tell me more details about this?
> I was terrified by your email's content.
> UTF-8 is all set for my character's style.
>

All the details are in my email. I just wanted to let you know that I had a
similar problem so you can report it if it happens again.

we both use utf8, it is possible to create multibyte character sequences
accidentally using ctrl and shift (look in windows help for the exact
combination), doing that may create non-supported multibytes which can be
hard to find without help.

rgds
jan I.


>
> On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 1:52 AM, janI  wrote:
>
> > On 26 August 2013 20:21, Mr. Phan Anh  wrote:
> >
> > > Thank you, now it works, but I dont know what happened.
> > >
> >
> > It might not be something you did. I just managed to get an unknown
> error,
> > with a couple of other VI strings.
> >
> > I suspect one or more vi strings contain a multibyte combination that are
> > not defined in utf8, and that breaks firefox and probably also the
> > database.
> >
> > If it happens again, I suggest you open an issue, with a link to the
> string
> > causing the problem. Be aware the real problem might be +/- approx. 256
> > strings, it ifs a db issue. I dont think there are any pootle tools that
> > can help, so an admin needs to either check the db or the po files.
> >
> > rgds
> > jan I.
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 1:19 AM, janI  wrote:
> > >
> > > > On 26 August 2013 19:50, Mr. Phan Anh  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Subject: Strange and Unable to save the strings
> > > > > 
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://translate.apache.org/vi/aoo40/svtools/source/control.po/translate/#unit=16371527
> > > > >
> > > > I just changes this one without problem. I added (jan) at the end so
> > you
> > > > can see it.
> > > >
> > > > rgds
> > > > jan I.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://translate.apache.org/vi/aoo40/svtools/source/control.po/translate/#unit=16371529
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://translate.apache.org/vi/aoo40/svtools/source/control.po/translate/#unit=16371529
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://translate.apache.org/vi/aoo40/svtools/source/control.po/translate/#unit=16371532
> > > > >
> > > > > I have tried to submit the translation online and even I downloaded
> > the
> > > > > file, edit with poedit, then reupload, I cant change the content
> for
> > > > those
> > > > > strings.
> > > > >
> > > > > Please help me in this.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: All about Vietnamese Translation for Apache OpenOffice

Vietnamese is now completed, I would like to receive a testing installation
of my language.
How can I do that?
Please help.

Re: All about Vietnamese Translation for Apache OpenOffice