[lace] web page URL

2005-01-17 Thread Brian Lemin
Sorry I forgot to remind you of the web page url.  Here it is.
http://home.exetel.com.au/brido/
Brian and Jean from Cooranbong Australia
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Re: [lace] Re: curling pieces

2005-01-17 Thread Ilske Thomsen
Hello Susie,
When I knew that I will starch the lace piece I start to make, then I 
lay directly on my pillow
two or three sheets of this kitchen-paper we use so often. Bigger than 
the pricking. And then I put the pricking there. Another idea is to lay 
a very smooth transparent paper over the pricking, but then you can't 
see the needle point as good as without this.
Perhaps this helps.
Greetings

Ilske
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[lace] Binche book

2005-01-17 Thread Bridget Marrow
Dear spiders
does anyone know how I can buy a copy of Vera Cockuyt's book 'Suggestions 
how to Improve Binche'?  I have a copy on loan from the Lace Guild at the 
moment, I'm finding it most useful and shall miss it when it has to go back, 
so I'd like my own copy.

Do any of the UK suppiers carry it?  Or should I buy it direct from the 
author?  It is self-published, but there is no address in the book, so I 
don't know how to contact her.

Bridget, in Watford, England.
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Re: [lace] Binche book

2005-01-17 Thread anneke reijs
Bridget wrote:
it is self-published, but there is no address in the book

 Hello Bridget and all,

When there is a ISBN number on the book, your bookstore can tell you the
address where you can contact the author or the publisher!

Anneke Reijs, in Baexem, The Netherlands

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[lace] Santina Levey

2005-01-17 Thread Claire Allen
I don't know whether this is news to anyone or whether I am telling you 
something you already know. But here goes anyway.

I just found out that Santina Levey's lace is being reprinted and 
should be available from the publisher in the next few weeks.

Claire
Kent, UK
Cold, wet and still January as it seems to have been forever.
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Re: [lace] Curling pieces/starching - Conservation Notes

2005-01-17 Thread Jeriames
Dear Lacemakers,

The copies of correspondence I'm responding to appear at the end of this 
memo.

I'd like to support Tamara's suggestions.  We've discussed this subject of 
starching lace a number of times on Arachne.  The old starches were made of 
flour and water, and could be quite effective.  They can be washed out, though 
flour residue will remain for many washings.   We wrote about the starched 
bonnets in Sweden sometime in 2000, after the OIDFA Convention.  And, I added 
that 
the Japanese use rice flour to secure the loose silk and gold threads on the 
backs of embroidered items, avoiding putting on so much that it bleeds through 
to the top (right-side) level.

What Newbies need to know is to *never give advice to use hair sprays or nail 
polish on laces*, because *this information may be chosen as easy and be 
remembered and used on antique or valuable laces* long after you've told 
someone 
what you used on a craft lace.  If you want to put hair spray or nail polish on 
craft laces, that would be a personal choice, but we should never (especially 
when casually discussing, demonstrating or teaching) let the advice slip by 
without a precautionary reminder.  Hair sprays and nail polishes and a number 
of other items contain chemicals that can be very damaging to lace.  Please 
remember that you wash the sprays out of your hair in a few days, and remove 
the 
polish from nails with very harsh chemicals.

A comment on using metallics with fibers such as cotton, linen and silk:  
They do not travel well together.  In the embroidery community, a good teacher 
will caution people that the mass-produced instructions that say to put both in 
your needle and work them together are just responding to a perceived need to 
work quickly.  An experienced stitcher will thread two needles, and stitch 
over the same area twice.  Once with cotton, linen or silk.  And then with 
metallics.  This prevents the two threads from twisting, and will present a 
much 
smoother result.  Also, you need to know that temperature and humidity changes 
affect different fibers differently.  If you've ever owned old Chinese 
embroidery, you may have experienced items where the gold outlining threads are 
hanging 
loose.  This is because the silk couching stitches have responded to 
temperature and humidity changes, and the expansion and contraction of silk 
fibers 
have caused them to be cut by the gold threads.

It all depends on your priorities, but be very aware of why the presentable 
life of an item may be shortened when you attempt to use materials in new ways.

Every technique, when tried in a new way, needs to be thought out to the 
conclusion (result).  Sometimes a working material is not suitable.  

A reminder:  Heat and steam from ironing can cause synthetic metallics to 
melt.  Always test these threads first - take some directly from the unworked 
skein and try under the pressing iron.

Previous correspondence from Susie and Tamara:

Actually I think the problem might come  from differences of tension in
threads: linen and cotton threads are elastic, metallic threads are not,
so when you remove the pins  elasticity takes over .  one way of preventing
this could be to starch the piece of lace prior to removing the pins (using
stiff/heavy (?)  starching ) and iron it immediately after removing the
pins .

Question:
How would you starch the piece without getting the pillow wet?

Thanks,
Susie Johnson

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 If you're philosophically allergic to starching (as I am), wash the 
 lace and, while it's still sopping-wet from the last rinsing, 
 finger-stretch it over a smooth (glass or stainless steel) surface. If 
 it shows any signs of drying before you've finished shaping it, 
 sprinkle with clean water. In this case, the tension holds the fibers 
 to the surface (Newton was a genius g), and the pins aren't needed. 
 You can starch at the same time, if you insist, though I'd recommend  
 natural (flour, sugar, etc) media, not a hair-spray or fingernail 
 polish, especially if you want to use your flat surface (in my case the 
 glass-covered coffee table in the living room) again 

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[lace] Japanese tatting book draw winner

2005-01-17 Thread Steph Peters
There were 58 entries to the draw for the Japanese tatting book as at the
closing date.  DH drew number 41 out of the hat; the lucky winner is Debbie
Markowitz.  Debbie please send me your address privately and I will send you
the book.

Sorry everyone couldn't be a winner.
--
Be suspicious of all native-born Esperanto speakers
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Tatting, lace  stitching page http://www.sandbenders.demon.co.uk/index.htm

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[lace] guild newsletter - revisited

2005-01-17 Thread Alice Howell
Recently, we had a discussion about putting newsletters on the computer in 
regards to copyrights.  It made me think about a situation that happened to 
our group.

We, not long ago, set up a webpage.  Our newsletter editor is also the web 
mistress.  She puts the newsletter on the web page as well as mailing it 
out. (The pictures on the web are in color while the newsletter is black 
and white.)

During the latest membership renewal campaign, we had a (now previous) 
member say that she only joined to get the newsletter in order to find out 
when we had a lace day or special event.  She never came to 
meetings.  Since the newsletter was now on the web, she had no reason to 
join.  Yetshe still expects to take advantage of our activities.  There 
may have been more like this who didn't own up to it.

I wondered if anyone else had met up with this situation, and...if 
sowhat you did about it, if anything.  Do you put your newsletters on 
your web page?

Lace note -- a clean out of my lace area was forced when my cat tried to 
jump on the lace bookcase and brought down pillows plus cat on top of my 
lamp, which broke,---and it all landed on top of me, my work table, and the 
pillow stand.  Lamp parts, pillows, and all sorts of stuff was all 
over.  The result of the clean up was finding several 'missing' spools of 
thread, organization of all thread and bobbin storage, a neater bookcase, 
and the lamp was repaired for $0.32 plus a new bulb.  My corner hasn't 
looked this neat in years. G  Several patterns came to the top that are 
intriquing and I had to start one.  Haven't done Beds for years, but I'm 
into it again -- making a lappet.  (PS.  Cat just bounced and seemed to not 
be harmed.  At least neither of them showed any sign of injury.  Never did 
know which one did it.)

Alice in Oregon -- where the freezing rain of Sat is now a memory.  It's 
now rain, all week.  At least it's warmer outside and no ice to scrape off 
my car.

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[lace] Looking for a lacemaker in UK

2005-01-17 Thread Barbara Bulgarelli
I would like to contact Suzanne Brackenbury who taught at the IOLI convention 
in PA, 2004.  The email I was given has been returned as undeliverable.  If 
anyone knows her email, please contact me privately
Barb in MI


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RE: [lace] guild newsletter - revisited

2005-01-17 Thread Patricia Dowden
-Original Message-
Dear Alice,

The answer might be to only put teasers from the newletter on the web.  Just 
put a selection of item from the newsletter, specifically excluding the 
calendar.  Since the website is for public consumption, it is wise not to put 
dates and names and contact info for events.  Another possibility is to simply 
announce events, but just the date and add that more information is available 
by calling or emailing an officer of the guild.  Of course the officer of the 
guild would immediately inquire if they are member and that if they are 
interested in the event, would they like to join the guild?  That would 
discourage freeloaders.  You can't change people, but you can place obstacles 
in their way that encourages them to behave in a more suitable manner.

Patty Dowden


Recently, we had a discussion about putting newsletters on the computer in 
regards to copyrights.  It made me think about a situation that happened to 
our group.

We, not long ago, set up a webpage.  Our newsletter editor is also the web 
mistress.  She puts the newsletter on the web page as well as mailing it 
out. (The pictures on the web are in color while the newsletter is black 
and white.)

During the latest membership renewal campaign, we had a (now previous) 
member say that she only joined to get the newsletter in order to find out 
when we had a lace day or special event.  She never came to 
meetings.  Since the newsletter was now on the web, she had no reason to 
join.  Yetshe still expects to take advantage of our activities.  There 
may have been more like this who didn't own up to it.

I wondered if anyone else had met up with this situation, and...if 
sowhat you did about it, if anything.  Do you put your newsletters on 
your web page?

Lace note -- a clean out of my lace area was forced when my cat tried to 
jump on the lace bookcase and brought down pillows plus cat on top of my 
lamp, which broke,---and it all landed on top of me, my work table, and the 
pillow stand.  Lamp parts, pillows, and all sorts of stuff was all 
over.  The result of the clean up was finding several 'missing' spools of 
thread, organization of all thread and bobbin storage, a neater bookcase, 
and the lamp was repaired for $0.32 plus a new bulb.  My corner hasn't 
looked this neat in years. G  Several patterns came to the top that are 
intriquing and I had to start one.  Haven't done Beds for years, but I'm 
into it again -- making a lappet.  (PS.  Cat just bounced and seemed to not 
be harmed.  At least neither of them showed any sign of injury.  Never did 
know which one did it.)

Alice in Oregon -- where the freezing rain of Sat is now a memory.  It's 
now rain, all week.  At least it's warmer outside and no ice to scrape off 
my car.

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[lace] Lace in the Mark Twain house

2005-01-17 Thread Jane Viking Swanson
Hi All,  I recently got a wonderful new book Modesty Died When Clothes Were
Born, subtitled Costume in the Life and Literature of Mark Twain.  The
author is Lynne Zacek Bassett (she used to be in Sumac and my local
Fiberarts Group), the ISBN is 0-9740969-1-1.  The book is full of
photographs of beautiful dresses, some rather outrageous to my eye.  I
haven't read it yet but the text includes quotes from Twain on clothing.
The book is from a special exhibit that ended recently at the Mark Twain
House in Hartford, Connecticut, USA.

Anyway, there is lace content in this message G.  There are two beautiful
pieces of lace pictured.  A Maltese collar and a detail of a Needlepoint
Lace flounce, possibly Venetian.  Both are circa 1900.
I've written to the New England Lace Group list to find out if anyone knows
if the lace is usually on display.

I was interested to see that a number of the dresses and other clothing
(including a Dragoman suit from Egypt) are from the Cornell Univ. Costume
Collection, Ithaca, New York!  If the Ithaca Lace event didn't keep me so
busy I'd go check that out next October!

The book is really lovely.  Only the two pieces of lace pictured but for
those of you interested in costume it's very interesting.

Jane in Vermont, USA so happy to be receiving arachne e-mails again after an
unexplained lapse over the weekend.
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[lace] Re: guild newsletter - revisited

2005-01-17 Thread Tamara P. Duvall
On Jan 17, 2005, at 19:17, Alice Howell wrote:
During the latest membership renewal campaign, we had a (now previous) 
member say that she only joined to get the newsletter in order to find 
out when we had a lace day or special event.  She never came to 
meetings.  Since the newsletter was now on the web, she had no reason 
to join.  Yetshe still expects to take advantage of our 
activities.  There may have been more like this who didn't own up to 
it.

I wondered if anyone else had met up with this situation, and...if 
sowhat you did about it, if anything.
I'm almost certain that I've seen some lace groups charge their bona 
fide members less for special events (workshops, lace days), and 
members of the public more. The difference is anywhere from half the 
yearly subscription to the whole amount. IOLI gives preference to 
members, when it comes to class choices at the Convention. Both 
practices seem to me to be eminently sensible; a guild has to defend 
itself somehow against predators, who're only willing to reap, but 
never sow...

--
Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/
Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland)
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[lace] Bobbin heads a comment

2005-01-17 Thread Brian Lemin
Caroline said.re Spanish  heads...
My question is if anybody among bobbin collectors knows if they exist or
have existed in some other European country. As far as I know, these 
heads are not common among other continental bobbins

My comment is that there exists both types of heads (ones with a small neck 
and others with just a single head) throughout the collection that I have. 
But those with a plain head are clearly more common.

The function of the heads are to anchor the thread.  I suspect that makers 
anchor the thread the way that they were taught.  In the English schools 
I would imagine that they were taught strictly what the anchoring rules 
were, thus the continuance of the small neck.

From observation of modern day makers, where not such school rules apply, 
many makers are not using the small neck supplied by the maker to anchor 
their thread!

When I get to the French bobbins I have an illustration of the oldest 
bobbin illustration.  Can't remember the date, but it is old.  This was a 
French illustration and it only had a single head.  That could have been the 
start of the single head bobbin on the continent.

BTW my  resources on Spanish bobbins are huge  You see the series of 
bobbins I have.  Well you will in due course!



Brian and Jean from Cooranbong Australia
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From: Carolina G. Gallego [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 10:43 PM
Subject: [lace] bobbins web page Brian Lemin


Brian Lemin wrote:
 Sorry I forgot to remind you of the web page url.  Here it is.

 http://home.exetel.com.au/brido/
It has caught my attention the group of bobbins of the lady with her hands 
on her hips and other two at both sides. The heads of the bobbins are 
similar to the traditional Spanish bobbins, though these ones are bigger.

My question is if anybody among bobbin collectors knows if they exist or 
have existed in some other European country. As far as I know, these 
heads are not common among other continental bobbins.

Regards.
Carolina. Barcelona. Spain.
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Carolina de la Guardia
http://www.geocities.com/carolgallego/
Private apartments for rent on Spanish Coast
http://www.winterinspain.com
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[lace] Re: failure of brownies to appear

2005-01-17 Thread JSyzygy
Hi Tamara
  Did you remember to leave out a bowl of milk?
  Maybe you could try putting the bowl of milk near your lace pillow?  As a 
sort of hint as to what the desired behavior is?

 And, it turns out that the pesky question - *why*, after a whole repeat 
 which went smoothly with pairs just so, do I suddenly, on the very 
 last pin, have one extra pair with no place to send it - has not 
 resolved itself quietly in the 4 hrs I was gone 

   Julie  
   Baltimore MD

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Re: [lace] Japanese tatting book draw winner

2005-01-17 Thread debbie
Woo Hoo!  Thanks!  I love books and this will be my second book on 
tatting.  I've done very little tatting, but maybe this will encourage 
me.  It happens that my first book has been lent out, to Avital, so we know 
it's in good hands.  Now that I will have another book to lend her, it'll 
be a good excuse to see each other, LOL!

Some time ago I bought all the supplies needed to make bobbin lace, 
including videos to teach me how.  I've only gotten as far as spangling 
some bobbins.  I WILL get to it one of these days.  In the meantime, I am 
crocheting some lace fans and edgings.  Also, some leaves and flowers in 
the Irish Crochet style.  I will be using all those pieces in a large, long 
term project that I'm working on, mounting them and combining them with 
embroidery.

Thanks, Steph.  I look forward to receiving the book.  I've sent you my 
address separately.

Debbie in Jerusalem
At 09:59 PM 1/17/2005 +, Steph Peters wrote:
There were 58 entries to the draw for the Japanese tatting book as at the
closing date.  DH drew number 41 out of the hat; the lucky winner is Debbie
Markowitz.  Debbie please send me your address privately and I will send you
the book.
Sorry everyone couldn't be a winner.
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[lace] promoting lace on your clothes

2005-01-17 Thread Helene Gannac
Devon,

I'm just catching up with my digests and read you account of the Living 
Billboard
Campaign for Modern Lace. Thank you! I loved it!! And of course, went to see 
the
photos...
However, how on earth can you expect to compete favourably with 8 big black 
breasts?
  :-) lace cannot possibly win, there Just imagine the reaction of all the guys
Hey, I think you should buy a modern piece of lace for your girlfriend Mmmm, 
have
you got any with 8 breasts on it? or even 6? or even maybe 4? No? Oh well, I'll 
get
her a piece of sculpture instead, they seem to know what motivate guys these
days...

Yours in lace,
Helene, the froggy from Melbourne, who promises to wear her (homemade!) wire 
lace
bracelet next time she goes out somewhere. And maybe also Lenka's pendant 
(bought
from her, not made by me)



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[lace-chat] jokes

2005-01-17 Thread rick sharon
Some of these have been around before, but they're fun anyway.
16 THINGS THAT IT TOOK ME OVER 50 YEARS TO LEARN   by Dave Barry

1. Never, under any circumstances, take a sleeping pill and a laxative on
the same night.

2. If you had to identify, in one word, the reason why the human race has
not achieved, and never will achieve, its full potential, that word would be
meetings.

3. There is a very fine line between hobby and mental illness.
{does this apply to lacemaking? }

4. People who want to share their religious views with you almost never want
you to share yours with them.

5. You should not confuse your career with your life.

6. Nobody cares if you can't dance well. Just get up and dance.

7. Never lick a steak knife.

8. The most destructive force in the universe is gossip.

9. You will never find anybody who can give you a clear and compelling
reason why we observe daylight savings time.

10. You should never say anything to a woman that even remotely suggests
that you think she's pregnant unless you can see an actual baby emerging
from her at that moment.

11. There comes a time when you should stop expecting other people to make a
big deal about your birthday. That time is age eleven.
{ I don't agree with this one, I've been trying to get DH to get me a
present for each year of my life..would've had 59 this year..I like
presents. Think of the benefits.  It would make having another birthday and
getting older more exciting.  Buying all those presents would have to boost
the economy etc. :)}

12. The one thing that unites all human beings, regardless of age, gender,
religion, economic status or ethnic background, is that, deep down inside,
we ALL believe that we are above average drivers.
{well, I am, so there. :) }

13. A person who is nice to you, but rude to the waiter, is not a nice
person (This is very important. Pay attention. It never fails).

14. Your friends love you anyway.

15. Never be afraid to try something new. Remember that a lone amateur built
the Ark. A large group of professionals built the Titanic.

16. Thought for the day: Men are like fine wine.. They start out as grapes,
and it's up to the women to stomp the heck out of them until they turn into
something acceptable with which to have dinner.
{or, as my mother used to say, it's like getting a block of granite and a
rusty spoon, and you've got to make something out of it }




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Re: [lace-chat] :-) New wine

2005-01-17 Thread dominique
i don't exactly know but it has something to with oak .. they like the 
particular taste wine gets after staying in oak barels .. even when it's 
not supposed to  . i think wine makers even have the right now to put oak 
shavings to get the taste faster  which is anathema to specialists . 
all wine don't need that oak flavour ..

Actually what we call american tastes are Robert Parker tastes  you 
know that well known wine critic ..

dominique  who's not a specialist . i like beer better than wine  shame 
on me !! though some white wines could make me change my mind .

Martha Krieg a décidé d' écrire à  ÒRe: [lace-chat] :-) New wineÓ.
[2005/01/17 05:00]

 Good grief, what are American tastes that they can't appreciate a 
 decent French wine
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Fw: [lace-chat] Re: bobbin display

2005-01-17 Thread Lynn Weasenforth
Well gee, I tried and got sorry that's not available, I even typed the whole 
thing in, hard to believe that in 1988 I had a 4.0 in computers and was on 
the Dean's list, a lot has changed in these many years, I am no longer 
computer literate.  :)

Lynn
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Subject: Re: [lace-chat] Re: bobbin display


 Margery Allcock a décidé d' écrire à  ÒRe: [lace-chat] Re: bobbin displayÓ.
 [2005/01/16 21:32]
 only saw quilts  Where have the bobbins gone ?
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Re: [lace-chat] Re: :-) New wine

2005-01-17 Thread dominique
Tamara P. Duvall a décidé d' écrire à  Ò[lace-chat] Re: :-) New wineÓ.
[2005/01/17 07:28]

 At that time, I didn't yet 
 know the meaning of French letter or French disease, so didn't 
 realise that the French were considered naughty in every language, not 
 just Polish... :)
 
one wonders why ... ;-)) after all,  a french letter is an english 
greatcoat for us .. lol ..


dominique 
If I had been around when Rubens was painting, I would have been revered as 
a fabulous model. Kate Moss? Well, she would have been the paintbrush...
-- Dawn French

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[lace-chat] The Hallams, visiting New Zealand...

2005-01-17 Thread Westland District Library
Pat and David Hallam called in at the Library yesterday, en route to Franz 
Josef Glacier.  They arrived just after a very heavy rainstorm, and 
'bedraggled' was a good description (Pat told me she had had her hair 
washed three times yesterday, and only one was intended!)...  She was 
wearing a wonderful sweatshirt, with a printed lace bobbin design, so I 
recognised her immediately.

It was really exciting when Pat produced an enormous number of bobbins!  I 
have never seen so many beautiful painted and figured bobbins before, and 
choosing some to buy was very difficult.  gg  Pat took a photo of me, and 
my assistant (Jan Blanchet, whose name any quilters among you might 
recognise), examining all the bobbins on the Library circulation desk, and 
David took one of us all.

I was sorry that they weren't able to stay in town a little longer - 
perhaps next time? - but Pat is taking back some little souvenirs of 
Westland... and there is 'a little something' for Bethany to look forward 
to, as well!

Erica McLeod, in Hokitika, New Zealand
Westland District Library
Hokitika, New Zealand
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[lace-chat] I missed you!

2005-01-17 Thread Jane Viking Swanson
Hi All,  After a blessedly brief (two day) hiatus I'm back.  I don't know
what happened.  No chat and no lace for two days : (  Avital sent me digests
of what I missed and today I seem to be getting arachne mail!  But Bev and
Anne Toney in Texas also had trouble.  I missed you all terribly but I did
get some lace made G.

I also have been working on a Kumihimo (Japanese) braid with the new gadget
I got on the trip to Northampton, Massacusetts with Sumac.  Before her
fabulous shopping trip in the record store (sorry, CD store) we went to a
great yarn store.  I got some wonderful yarn and we also both got Kumihimo
circles with notches in them.  I made the practice piece - 16 threads, 4
colors winding around the cord and then started a new one.  Unfortunately I
chose DMC #80 tatting cotton.  It was the best color choice right to hand.
It's making a beautiful cord but a bit thin.  I'll go searching later, I
know I have lots of silk buttonhole twist and I think that would be
beautiful!!  And I seem to remember I have some spools of Pearl cotton that
I was given a long time ago.  I have lots of white and ecru Pearl Cotton for
B'berg but I want color!!  Sumac taught our Fiberarts Group Kumihimo a few
years ago at Christmas time.  She brought us all squares of matboard with
notches.  That works wonderfully but I think I put it away safely and I'm
not sure where it is : (

Her prize winning run through the store was great fun.  It was fun to see
how the radio guys worked too.  We (including the other customers) had to
keep yelling every time they did a promo to stir up interest.  They did that
a few times and it gave Sumac a chance to look over the inventory again.
She did wonderfully and crammed the canvas bag she was given full!!  What
fun G.

Jane in Vermont, USA where it's below freezing again.
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[lace-chat] the French (tongue in cheek)(lace-chat)

2005-01-17 Thread Helene Gannac
Tamara wrote:
...Since I was engrossed in Colette's Claudine series borrowed from the 
same source, I was not about to tell her; suspecting that both I and my 
little lender-friend might get nailed, I prevaricated. But I never 
forgot the reaction. Or the phrase. Or the association of French = naughty... 
:)


S, I always say that foreigners always attribute to the French what the
*Parisians* do!!! You talk to someone and they say I've been to France and 
they
really mean I've visited Paris, or they say French people are rude, and 
they've
only ever been to Paristhis is just one other example, isn't it? 
Now tell me, how many books about naughty French has anyone read that didn't 
come
from or was set in Paris? none, I bet  :-)

Helene, the virtuous French froggy who doesn't come from Paris :-) with 
apologies to
Dominique, who I'm sure doesn't come from Paris either, do you, Dominique?...

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[lace-chat] :) Fwd: The Drunk Game...

2005-01-17 Thread Tamara P. Duvall
OK, so I had no luck with this at all; I think 9 meters was my top 
score...  Not being able to see the arrow is crippling in trying to 
keep the guy upright :) But it's fun all the same...

From: C.B. I

http://www.wagenschenke.ch/index2.htm
Try and see how far you can keep the drunk man up. Good Luck!
Just move your mouse left to right (no clicking) to keep him walking in 
a straight line.

The object of the game is to keep him walking, without falling over, by 
using your mouse from left to right or right to left - you can't  see 
your mouse which makes it more difficult.

Apparently the record is  82 meters!
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Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/
Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland)
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