[lace] Re: Question about lace supplies for convention
Hi, Ronna The first thing to do is contact your *teachers* and ask them if you can use the International Square bobbins. Obviously, both would prefer you use the proper (that is, the official) kind for that style of lace, but most teachers understand the financial necessity of making do with what one has.The so-called international square bobbin is fairly lightweight and may be OK, but your teachers will know whether the thread they have you using is too fine (weak) for the weight of that kind of bobbin. Honiton uses very fine thread and light bobbins, but usually not all that many of them, so you may not have a problem in terms of the number of bobbins you need (40 bobbins is only 20 pairs, so that's not many for the Withof class, either). As Tamara said, you need fine pins (and short enough to push all the way down into the pattern) for both those laces. However, if your supply list doesn't specify a size or kind of pin, perhaps the beginning patterns aren't going to be too critical on that score. You need a separate pillow and bobbins for each class, but can use all the other tools between them. I disagree with Tamara about needing huge numbers of pins. Both laces are free style, without quantities of ground filling in around the motifs. The ground areas are what really eat up pins at an alarming rate. Still, you will need a full box between them, and buying a second box (if needed later in the week) is a small price. That will depend in part on how fast you work, of course! Have a wonderful time at convention--it's a great learning experience and really broadens your lace horizons (in terms of what kinds of lace there are to be learnt, what kinds of tools are available, all the new threads and books and other toys, etc.) and new friends to share your passion with! Robin P. Los Angeles, California, USA (formerly Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - My list of supplies for Honiton has not arrived yet, but my Withof one has. It asks for Binche or Fine Belgium bobbins 40 of them. I am wondering if I will absolutely have to purchase new bobbins for this or if mine could be used (I will need the honiton bobbins from what I understand) I am a beginner so the cost of setting up is extraordinary. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: AOL subscribers and Secret pals
Dear Brenda, I am not having poblems sending emails to AOL users now, but have in the past, and it is infuriating. AOL have been know to block all emails originating from an ISP because of spam issues. I don't understand all the whys and wherefores. What I do know is that I had to resort to using another email address to get through to my AOL friends, as this seemed like their permanent solution to the problem. Karen In Coventry where the day is already extremely hot and humid - and we will be working on taking the rest of the kitchen apart. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.8/22 - Release Date: 17/06/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.8/22 - Release Date: 17/06/2005 - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Girl Guides and lace
Hi Helen and Spiders, I used to be a Guide Captain, running a very successful group of girls in Hertfordshire but, just before I finshed, the Bobbin Lace proficiency badge was discontinued. I think Pat Hallam's daughter was one of those who completed it, but there was a (small!) outcry when it was dispensed with, as all you addicts will understand. I married and moved away from Herts, so don't know whether the campaign to bring it back had any success at all - probably not, as the very few Guides to whom I have spoken don't seem to know anything about it! Carol - now in Suffolk UK, where it is very hot and humid - was it King Geirge II who said the British summer is three hot days and a thunderstorm? And will that come tonight or tomorrow ...? Subject: [lace] Girl Guides and lace - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] charted bobbin lace?
It looks to me very much like a takeoff on lacis, but making the background net with bobbins, instead of as a netting. Certainly the charted aspect of it isn't new--some of the earliest extant lace books rely heavily on charts. --Sue (on a sunny Sunday in Montana, in the NW USA), emerging from lurkdom to add in a historical perspective... Claire Allen wrote: I think this has been floating around for some time. I saw it a few years ago when the was a workshop on it at our local lace group. The main things seems to be that the holes on the pricking are set square to each other rather than on a diagonal line to look like filet lace. Then the filled in blocks are done as tallies or with beads. It was very effective and the ladies who did the workshop made some nice little amulet purses with their initial letter on them in beads. Claire Kent,UK Where after weeks of miserable damp and chilly weather it is now ridiculously hot. There's no inbetween these days. On 19 Jun 2005, at 5:06:am, Jenny Brandis wrote: Is this a new (different) lace? http://freespace.virgin.net/deborah.robinson/chlace.htm - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Another convention question
Hello! I'm still debating whether or not to go to the convention -- it's such a relatively short drive from SLC! After reading the helpful comments I've received, I'm wondering if there is any way to tell at this point which classes are already full? It that posted somewhere, or is there a way to contact the organizers to find out? Thanks very much again to all of you for all of your help! Ricki Torrey SLC, UT - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: [lace-chat] Question about lace supplies for convention
In a message dated 19/06/2005 04:38:49 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You'll need two work cloths and, for both laces, you'll need similiar ones - a square or round cloth with a small (no more than 2) hole in the middle. Depends on who the teacher for Honiton is! Really you should use 3 or 4 ordinary cover cloths, preferably a reasonably light weight (plain dark coloured) cotton fabric, and you dress the pillow with a triangular hole using 3 or a square/rectangular hole using 4. The cloths are pinned low down on a proper Honiton pillow (or way out at the edges if you are improvising with another sort) so they need to be big enough to do this. They are stretched absolutely drum-tight (so you need 6 or 8 strong flat-headed pins) and the last cloth is the one at a 90 degree angle to the predominant direction of work (to give the flattest working area). As you go round curves you often change the *top* cloth by swopping the positioning of the ends relative to each other (NOT completely re-dressing the pillow). But by having the cloths tight, the bobbins pass over the edges with little difficulty anyway. This tight-to-the-pillow arrangement means you can also use a slider (a piece of acetate or clean x-ray film with 'very' smooth edges) under the cloths (not held by pins) and it covers any exposed pin heads so your very fine thread doesn't catch and break. Having the separate cloths also means you can have a much smaller uncovered hole - most Honiton beginners motifs are less than 2 across so the round-hole cloths would expose the complete motif and even if you keep sliding it about you can't get a tight down to the pillow edge to work over and you can't get the tight fit needed to hold a slider. And the rest of the cloth tends to 'flute' on the pillow which the light weight Honiton bobbins hate, they like smooth to work on. The cloths don't need any fancy hems, I just tear mine so there is as little bulk as possible under the folded over edge, and wash them in the machine a couple of times, after which they don't fray any more, but if you are uncomfortable with that, a zig-zag edge is sufficient. Hope this helps, 'cos apart from the number of them (but you can never have too many cover cloths anyway) these torn cloths will be much easier to make and more useful for other lace in future if you don't take to Honiton. I use the same arrangement for all my part lace - Bruges, Duchesse, Withof and Milanese and have never owned a cloth with a hole. But I have seen them used very successfully for the 'bigger' types and watched students struggle with them for Honiton. Jacquie - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Lacemakers' Badge
Hi, Carol Adkinson is correct in saying that our daughter Pamela gained the Lacemakers' Badge in the Girl Guides. It was during the time that Pam was working for this particular badge that the Girl Guide movement decided to up-date their proficiency badge manual and this was one they decided had no interest to the Guides - how wrong they were! It took a lot of tracking down by our local badge secretary to find this particular badge, an appeal went to all badge secretaries to look to see if they had one, one was finally found - I believe in the Shetland Islands! It is rather an insignificant badge, it looks more like a bell tent than a lace hanky being picked up by the centre of the material! and Pam has still got it, she made a poncho and sewed all her badges onto it and used it when she was a Young Leader in the Girl Guides when they went to camp around the camp fire! Pam had her photograph in the local paper when she gained her Queen's Guide and also her photograph was in the :Lace Guild's 'Lace' - we still have the photograph so will get it up on Roseground's web pages this week for all of you to see her. Pam went on to gain her Queen's Guide award - completing all the requirements only days before her 16th birthday, a long time ago now, her daughter Bethany - who is also a lacemaker age 6 is in Rainbows and her son Matthew is in Cubs. Pam has just told me that there was a Lacemaker's badge on E-Bay which sold for 15.00GBP! Pat Pat Hallam Nottingham, UK [EMAIL PROTECTED] (for catalogue [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Shop on-line at www.roseground.com - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: IOLI
In a message dated 19/06/2005 04:39:23 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It was because of my membership in IOLI, that I went to Denver for a workshop (in '93, I think) and, for the first time, saw *other people* handling bobbins :) The workshop itself proved not to be so great, but I made a friend the first meeting of the minds I experienced in my 20 yrs in the US. My friend, in early June of '95, steered me to Arachne (then in it's second month of existence g). The rest - as the saying goes - is history... Dear Tamara, In this context, I recall an early friendship blooming between us which I have probably not 'watered' properly. I apologise for this... it happens with me, I guess because of so much moving and a lot of computer failures. I hate to think now how may laptops have bit the dust with laceelain correspondence dying on the vine. I really do value your friendship. I put on a jacket from my 'London' wardrobe this morning that is enhanced by a lovely initial in lace that you made for me quite some time ago.. I'm sorry that I won't be able to come to Denver for IOLI; Ralph and I both grew up there. and it would be interesting to see the city again. However. as usual, Ralph and I are in London now. I have seen two spectacular textile exhibitions here and will try to give some information about them on Arachne. One was of the textile collection made by the Henri Matissethis was possibly the most exciting art exhibition I have EVER seen, and the other, currently at the Victoria and Albert Museum, is also wonderful. It is beautifuly mounted and shows part of the wardrobe of Queen Maud of Norway. There isn't al lot of lace in it, but where lace is used, it is used in a beautiful way. Do havew a great time in Denver and think of me. love, Elaine . - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Continuing problems with AOL and others!
I ran into problems sending to AOL addresses in another group. The tech I talked with said it was because I had a business card attachment. Just a few days earlier I had no problems with sending to AOL. It coincided with AOL's decision to start attaching ads, etc., to emails. It could be that the unsubscribe tag is causing the bounces. AOL members are only allowed to send to a maximum of 10 people if even 1 of the addresses is to a Yahoo address. This went into effect at the same time. Anne in Austin TX - Original Message - From: Brenda Paternoster [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Chat Arachne lace-chat@arachne.com; Arachne [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 4:26 AM Subject: [lace] Continuing problems with AOL and others! Sorry to post this via the group again, but I am still unable to post to AOL, also verizon.net and frontier.net. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Girl Guides and lace
Okay, let's see how well my brain works right now :o) Please delete this email if the combined history of lace and Guides in the UK doesn't interest you at all. I think that the lacemaker badge went out in the mid-80s. I went up to Guides in the winter of 91-92 - just as all of the major changes had happened (Jeff Banks' uniforms with culottes baseball caps and the square-ish handbooks in full colour). I think this might have been the last time that lacemaking was mentioned in the Craft badge. I know that the lacemaker badge wasn't in the previous badgebook as my Brown Owl gave me a copy when I left Brownies (trying to get rid of useless stock, I suspect!) and I would have noticed such a thing and probably tried to work for it. There were changes that had filtered down to unit level by around 95-early 96 (I was too scared to go to Rangers when I should have - that's why the dates don't quite work) as I remember that a lot of badges, including Interpreter, had suddenly been changed to staged badges to allow more girls to work on something that interested them but that they might not have been able to complete and to stretch the girls who'd already been doing something for many years. There is still a Craft badge, but the syllabus has been changed somewhat. It hasn't been dumbed down, just that the clauses have been made less explicit so that it's up to the Guider's/tester's discretion as to whether a girl has done *her* best to complete the clause. Currently, my Guide unit tends to work for Go For Its (a modern equivalent of the Patrol Pennants or whatever they were) - if anyone's just been thinking that a girl they teach won't be able to make lace for the Craft badge, then no, that's not what I meant :o) As long as she's put the effort into the work, whatever it is, and completed the necessary clauses then the badge should be awarded, whatever it's for! A few years ago when I was at a training, Ideas for the Older Brownie, the trainer did suggest that more complicated, grown-up grafts might be a way to keep a girls interest until she could go on to Guides. One of the crafts suggested was bobbin lace. Yes, I know for a fact that you can make lace that young, but my only reservation was how on Earth am I supposed to start a girl off on a piece of lace whilst keeping the rest of the pack interested in whatever they're supposed to be doing?!? I did try to get one of my Guides interested in lace. She's very good at beading, sewing and making friendship bracelets (and those are just what I know of) so I took the bracelet I made from the last Lace Guild Young Lacemakers pattern under the pretence that I couldn't remember how to tie bracelets up. It was pretty, but not something she was into. Overall, I think that Guiding is probably the only chance that a lot of girls get to do crafty things now and our programme has changed to account for this. A big change from when making and selling Torchon was suggested as being a good way for a girl to make some money! :o) Anyway, that email wasn't supposed to get so long. Helen At 23:55 19/06/2005, Jane Partridge wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Carol Adkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Hi Helen and Spiders, I used to be a Guide Captain, running a very successful group of girls in Hertfordshire but, just before I finshed, the Bobbin Lace proficiency badge was discontinued. Rooting through some things a week or so ago, I remembered someone saying something about this recently, and the date given for the badge's decline was definitely within the time that I was a Guide Guider. (1974-1994) However, although I'm sure somewhere I have a copy of the old Guide handbook (when the badges were included in it) I can't put my hand on it at the moment. From the 1988 version, through to the one that was current when I left guiding in 1994, the only mention of lace was the clause in the Craft Badge - make a piece of lace. I gather that there have been major changes since 1994, and I'm not sure if guides still do badges - if so, and if the Craft Badge still exists, do we have a current Guider in the UK who can tell us whether the clause is still there? As for how I got into lacemaking in the first place - it was an option given on a (Staffordshire) County Guiders' Training Day - at the Edward Orme School in Newcastle-under-Lyme - in March, 1984 - I got home full of enthusiasm, can I have a pillow for my birthday?. DH bought me the pillow (rectangular, straw, with my current project on at the moment!) but within a month or so I couldn't use it - our eldest daughter was born that October. It was then five years before I saw a lacemaking for beginners class at the local college, with a crche able to take my (then) two year old younger daughter (at 18 months she was jealous of her big sister being able to go to playgroup - they had to be 3 for that) and the rest, as they say, is history. I went into lace with the aim
Re: [lace] Girl Guides and lace
For interest's sake, I've just dug out my guide handbook from 1968, and found the badge requirements: LACE-MAKER (Lace) 1 Name and describe four different kinds of lace, e.g. torchon, Irish crochet, Brussels point, filet, ground point, Carrickmacross, Milanese, etc. 2 Mend, very neatly, a piece of real or imitation lace. 3 Pass one of the following clauses: (a) Bobbin or pillow lace: Manage at least thirty-six bobbins; make five different stitches; show specimens to include insertion and edging. (b) Needlepoint lace: Make eight varieties of stitch, to include bars, picots, tulle. (c) Filet or darned net lace: Make your own net and vary the design. Show insertion or several squares. (d) Tambour lace: Know the tambour stitch. Work in several colours; or show a piece of 'needle run' with at least eight varieties of stitch in the net. (e) Applique on net: e.g. Carrickmacross, applique duchesse, etc. Show a piece of work including lawn or sprigs. 4 Pass one of the following clauses: (a) Tatting lace: Know single- and double-thread tatting, both for insertion and lace, manage three threads at a time on separate shuttles. (b) Knitted lace: Copy a simple design, or follow directions, showing edging and insertion. (c) Crochet: Copy a simple design, or follow directions, showing insertion, edging, comer, and Irish rosettes. (d) Netting lace: Work two doilies with varying widths of mesh and different designs, such as shell or pointed edges. - Original Message - From: Helen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 7:05 PM Subject: Re: [lace] Girl Guides and lace Okay, let's see how well my brain works right now :o) Please delete this email if the combined history of lace and Guides in the UK doesn't interest you at all. I think that the lacemaker badge went out in the mid-80s. I went up to Guides in the winter of 91-92 - just as all of the major changes had happened (Jeff Banks' uniforms with culottes baseball caps and the square-ish handbooks in full colour). I think this might have been the last time that lacemaking was mentioned in the Craft badge. I know that the lacemaker badge wasn't in the previous badgebook as my Brown Owl gave me a copy when I left Brownies (trying to get rid of useless stock, I suspect!) and I would have noticed such a thing and probably tried to work for it. There were changes that had filtered down to unit level by around 95-early 96 (I was too scared to go to Rangers when I should have - that's why the dates don't quite work) as I remember that a lot of badges, including Interpreter, had suddenly been changed to staged badges to allow more girls to work on something that interested them but that they might not have been able to complete and to stretch the girls who'd already been doing something for many years. There is still a Craft badge, but the syllabus has been changed somewhat. It hasn't been dumbed down, just that the clauses have been made less explicit so that it's up to the Guider's/tester's discretion as to whether a girl has done *her* best to complete the clause. Currently, my Guide unit tends to work for Go For Its (a modern equivalent of the Patrol Pennants or whatever they were) - if anyone's just been thinking that a girl they teach won't be able to make lace for the Craft badge, then no, that's not what I meant :o) As long as she's put the effort into the work, whatever it is, and completed the necessary clauses then the badge should be awarded, whatever it's for! A few years ago when I was at a training, Ideas for the Older Brownie, the trainer did suggest that more complicated, grown-up grafts might be a way to keep a girls interest until she could go on to Guides. One of the crafts suggested was bobbin lace. Yes, I know for a fact that you can make lace that young, but my only reservation was how on Earth am I supposed to start a girl off on a piece of lace whilst keeping the rest of the pack interested in whatever they're supposed to be doing?!? I did try to get one of my Guides interested in lace. She's very good at beading, sewing and making friendship bracelets (and those are just what I know of) so I took the bracelet I made from the last Lace Guild Young Lacemakers pattern under the pretence that I couldn't remember how to tie bracelets up. It was pretty, but not something she was into. Overall, I think that Guiding is probably the only chance that a lot of girls get to do crafty things now and our programme has changed to account for this. A big change from when making and selling Torchon was suggested as being a good way for a girl to make some money! :o) Anyway, that email wasn't supposed to get so long. Helen At 23:55 19/06/2005, Jane Partridge wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Carol Adkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Hi Helen and Spiders, I used to be a Guide Captain, running a
[lace] Re: Another convention question
On Jun 19, 2005, at 12:24, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ricki) wrote: I'm still debating whether or not to go to the convention -- it's such a relatively short drive from SLC! Yeah, not having to buy a plane ticket is always a plus... :) I'm wondering if there is any way to tell at this point which classes are already full? It that posted somewhere, or is there a way to contact the organizers to find out? If you go to: http://bcn.boulder.co.us/arts/rmlg/rmlgconv.html you'll find that there are two co-chairs listed for the Convention. Either one of them should be able to answer your questions (I've been dealing with Vasna, as she's on Arachne, and was easier for me to reach). But I'd ask for a list of classes which still have spots left open, rather than ones which are full-up; that list is likely to be much shorter... :) -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Continuing problems with AOL and others!
Sorry to post this via the group again, but I am still unable to post to AOL, also verizon.net and frontier.net. The technical guy at orpheus/appleshack assures me it's because they have set their spam filters too high and so legitimate messages posted to their customers are being rejected. The AOL website says it's because the sending IP address doesn't have reverse DNS but when I tested it with them it does have reverse DNS! All very technical but I think it means that the sending ISP can accept 'incoming calls' as well as outgoing messages, which some spam senders can't. A strong stance on junk mail is commendable, but not so good if it's rejecting bone fide messages. Ruth Hickman has kindly agreed to forward messages for me, thank you Ruth. I do have email at work and until this is sorted I'll send any rejected messages to myself at work and try forwarding from there, but I (usually) only work Wednesdays and Fridays so if anyone using a problem ISP contacts me there could be a delay in sending any reply. Cindy: you are included in the new round of Secret pals. Brenda Paternoster in Kent England Arachne Secret pal administrator http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/ To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] strange lace
Alice Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I found the strangest lace on eBay. It is listed as a collar but shown draped over a head form. There's lots of pictures so it takes a moment to load. The closeup pictures show that the base fabric of the collar is knotted lace like is used for Filet or Lacis. The flowers attached are neither needlelace nor bobbin lace. Anyone seen these before? This collar looks like it would make a good stage prop. It would look lacy from a distance yet be sturdy for rough handling. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=7330550325 Only in the close-up could I finally make out the netting knots. But the applique is completely unfamiliar to me. It almost looks like something made of, I don't know, toothpaste or white caulking or some substance like that. (I can see it's not, but it's so big and, and, uh, GLOOPY looking!) Lynn Carpenter in SW Michigan, USA alwen at i2k dot com To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] strange lace
This might sound random, but it (the thick white stuff) looks like a strange mix of cheap net curtain and the 3d puff paint stuff. Helen At 20:08 19/06/2005, Lynn Carpenter wrote: Alice Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I found the strangest lace on eBay. It is listed as a collar but shown draped over a head form. There's lots of pictures so it takes a moment to load. The closeup pictures show that the base fabric of the collar is knotted lace like is used for Filet or Lacis. The flowers attached are neither needlelace nor bobbin lace. Anyone seen these before? This collar looks like it would make a good stage prop. It would look lacy from a distance yet be sturdy for rough handling. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=7330550325 Only in the close-up could I finally make out the netting knots. But the applique is completely unfamiliar to me. It almost looks like something made of, I don't know, toothpaste or white caulking or some substance like that. (I can see it's not, but it's so big and, and, uh, GLOOPY looking!) Lynn Carpenter in SW Michigan, USA alwen at i2k dot com To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.8/22 - Release Date: 17/06/2005 Helen in Somerset, UK Forget the formulae, let's make lace -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.8/22 - Release Date: 17/06/2005 To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] London markets
I was embarrassed to see my typo Potbelly instead of Portobello, wonder where my mind was when I typed it. Pays to always read before you hit Send. I was actually thinking of Petticoat Lane, which I thought was antiques, so I appreciate the post from Sue that it is mainly a food market. Saves a trip there. We arrive in London on Saturday morning and have booked a champagne dinner package including a trip on the BA Eye in the evening as it will be our 39th wedding anniversary. Did think about going to the theatre but have visions of us both snoring away before the second act. I checked out Portobello Road on the web and see that there are three lace/fabric dealers there so maybe I can get DH to go there before we go to dinner. I will check out the other web sites sent by Liz and others as I have to fill my time on Monday. The VA lace exhibit is still closed and the fan museum does not open on Mondays. Last time I was at Covent Garden I heard the musicians for about 2 minutes, they stopped, packed up, and a girl came around collecting cash. I chucked in some change and she was very rude to me! Thought it should have been more but I stood my ground. I may have another American with me on Monday so might have to do some of the usual tourist stuff. At least this trip I will be able to buy my wine gums which I missed getting last month on my return trip from France. Usually I stock up as the ones I can get round here are terrible. Janice Janice Blair Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Re: [lace] Continuing problems with AOL and others!
I ran into problems sending to AOL addresses in another group. The tech I talked with said it was because I had a business card attachment. Just a few days earlier I had no problems with sending to AOL. It coincided with AOL's decision to start attaching ads, etc., to emails. It could be that the unsubscribe tag is causing the bounces. AOL members are only allowed to send to a maximum of 10 people if even 1 of the addresses is to a Yahoo address. This went into effect at the same time. Anne in Austin TX - Original Message - From: Brenda Paternoster [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Chat Arachne lace-chat@arachne.com; Arachne [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 4:26 AM Subject: [lace] Continuing problems with AOL and others! Sorry to post this via the group again, but I am still unable to post to AOL, also verizon.net and frontier.net. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Re: Continuing problems with AOL and others!
On Jun 19, 2005, at 5:26, Brenda Paternoster wrote: Sorry to post this via the group again, but I am still unable to post to AOL, also verizon.net and frontier.net. The technical guy at orpheus/appleshack assures me it's because they have set their spam filters too high and so legitimate messages posted to their customers are being rejected. Yesterday (or maybe the day before?) your message (to lace) - about Edition 3 of Threads for Lace - got stopped by my ISP, and I had to go to their website to retrieve it. It's the first time that's happened, since I also subscribe, via the ISP, to Postini (a virus and spam filter). I've long believed that some messages get rejected/tagged as spam because of the subject line. During the period when every second spam message wanted to sell me a Rolex watch, my message to Dominique (in Paris), which had rolled cords as the subject line got rejected also. When I changed the subject line it was delivered. A strong stance on junk mail is commendable, but not so good if it's rejecting bone fide messages. Which is why I like my ISP-cum-Postini much better; both let *me* decide whether to zap the message (and its sender) or to accept it. I can then designate the sender's address as as acceptable, and no more problems (one hopes g)... And Anne, in Austin, Texas wrote: I ran into problems sending to AOL addresses in another group. The tech I talked with said it was because I had a business card attachment. Just a few days earlier I had no problems with sending to AOL. It coincided with AOL's decision to start attaching ads, etc., to emails. It could be that the unsubscribe tag is causing the bounces. AOL members are only allowed to send to a maximum of 10 people if even 1 of the addresses is to a Yahoo address. This went into effect at the same time. Cheese, Louise... Why would anyone want to stay with AOL then? It's not as if they're a free service, and if they're gonna add ads to emails and, at the same time, act like a robber baron monopoly (barring free services like yahoo)... -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
