[lace] Re: uses for bangles (was: Craft Supplies Help please)

[robinlace]

 Norma Harris  wrote: 
I've found the bangles in the $1 stores in the girl's jewelry section.  The
ones I purchased were all gold  and I use them for my tatted snowflakes as I'm
still very, very new to BL and don't yet have patterns for BL snowflakes.

Christine Springett has published several books that have patterns for inside 
bangle bracelets.  Her first book was "Lace for Children of All Ages".  That 
and her next couple of books have lots of pretty, relatively simple patterns 
with detailed instructions (including how much thread to wind on each bobbin).  
Some of them are for inside bangles.

More recently, she published the book "Bangle Bonanza", which is devoted to 
bangle patterns.  I know this one is still available from lace suppliers.  I 
don't know if the others are still in print, but they turn up used every once 
in a while.

Robin P.
Los Angeles, California, USA
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[lace] Happy Birthday Arachne

[Elizabeth Ligeti]

Happy Birthday Arachne, and I hope you have many many more!!

I joined in 2002, when I first got a computer, and managed to fathom out how
it worked.  I had visited daughter, Helen Bell, - the Aussie in Denver, and
watched her on the computer, and eventually got persuaded that I should have
one - especially when I was able to read the Arachne lace messages that she
shared with me!  So that was the first shopping I did when I got home - Buy a
PC!!!

Now I wonder how I managed withOut a computer!!! :))
The List is the most wonderful resource, and  everyone is so friendly, and
helpful.

Regards from Liz in Melbourne, Oz.
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[lace] Craft Supplies.

[Elizabeth Ligeti]

Very many thanks for the replies to my query.

I thought the bangles would be available, but felt that I should just check
first!!

Gratefully,
Regards from Liz in Melbourne, Oz.
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[lace] Tatman's lace

[Beth Mccasland]

Mark - 
That's wonderful beautiful lace!  And tinier than sewing thread?  Are you
blind yet man?  Or do you cheat and use a magnifying lens?  I can't wait to
see the finished work.  Please keep us posted with your progress.

Beth McCasland
in the suburbs of New Orleans


> [Original Message]
> From: Mark, aka Tatman 
> To: Lace list 
> Date: 4/14/2009 10:24:56 AM
> Subject: [lace] Re: Arachne anniversary
>
> I can't remember what month, but I think I joined in 1998.  I was mostly a
> lurker(like I am now) and email got so overwhelming that I had to bow out.
> But then I missed getting all the wonderful tips and information.  So
after
> a while I resubbed and stayed.  I still lurk, soaking in all your
knowledge,
> but do post occasionally.
>
> On a lace topic of what I have been working on, and some may know about it
> if they frequent my blog, but I have been working on lace for my niece's
> wedding dress since last fall and her wedding is in Oct of this year.  I
> still have a LOT to do!  I am not working bobbin lace, but am tatting the
> motifs.  I am using very fine Coron Cotton size 160(smaller than sewing
> thread). It seems like it is taking me as long to tat it as if I was to
> bobbin lace it.  I am tatting it in "Honiton-like" motifs and will then
> connect them to fine tulle with beads.  You can view my progress on my
blog:
> http://tatmantats.wordpress.com
>
> To see all the posts that pertain to the wedding lace, go here:
>
> http://tatmantats.wordpress.com/category/christinas-wedding-lace/
>
> Happy Lacing,
>
> -- 
> Mark, aka Tatman..from cold and rainy Greenville, IL USA
> blog: http://tatmantats.wordpress.com/
> email: tatmant...@gmail.com

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Re: [lace] lace survey results - Gawthorpe Hall

[Jeriames]

Dear Lesley,
 
How wonderful that you had this experience at Gawthorpe Hall.
 
Sometime in the 1980's I went to Gawthorpe.  At that time, it was  shabby, 
and very cold.  Still, my friends and I had a wonderful time  looking at 
laces and a variety of other needlework.  Many pieces had been  laid out on 
large tables in a room on the ground floor (kitchen?), for our  enjoyment.  We 
shivered, and stayed as long as allowed.  
 
The needlework collection at Gawthorpe Hall is reputed - by some - to  be 
second only to the Victoria and Albert's collection.  In a biography of  Sir 
Henry Cole ("The Great Exhibitor"  328 pp/2003 ), the founding  director of 
the V&A, I found 3 connections to Rachel's grandfather -  James 
Kay-Shuttleworth.  Sir Henry Cole purchased the first laces to enter  the V&A 
collection, and Rachel's connection through her grandfather is most  
interesting.  She 
must have heard some fascinating stories about the V  & A collections.
 
In recent years, a member of Arachne - Dianne Derbyshire - has  been 
cataloguing and photographing all the laces in the Gawthorpe Hall  collection.  
**Applause!**  Also, Gail Marsh has written a hardback  book "18th Century 
Embroidery Techniques" (2006) which drew on the Gawthorpe  collection.  It 
included case study instructions on Hollie Point lace and  Knotting - for both 
of which there is a lack of published  information.   A new Gail Marsh book 
was recently published  "19th Century Embroidery Techniques".  I hope you got 
to see these books  and also the little paperback book (memoir) about 
Rachel Kay-Shuttleworth (if  still in print).  This last book has served to 
inspire me in  my lace-related collecting.
 
Stay with us, Lesley, and little bells will ring - you  will recognize 
names and places with wonderful connections to  lace.   
 
Jeri Ames in  Maine USA
Lace and Embroidery Resource Center  

 
In a message dated 4/13/2009 3:04:28 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
lesley.blacks...@ntlworld.com writes:

Brenda,  what an interesting survey, and what a wealth of experienced 
craftsmen/women  there are here; a fantastic resource for those of us who are 
starting out in  lace making.

Today I went to Gawthorpe Hall (Lancashire, UK) mainly to  see the Rachel 
Kay-Shuttleworth textile collection and was overhwelmed not  just by the 
incredible skill involved in the collection, but how many  different techniques 
there are to make lace.

For those of you who don't  know the collection is of many varieties of 
textiles, not just lace but  embroidery, tapestry, crochet and knitting (and 
probably others) from several  countries.  Only a small part of the collection 
is on show at any one  time and the display is, we were told, changed 
annually.  There was far  too much to take in at one viewing so I think we 
shall 
return several times  this year.  As a bonus, the house itself is a great 
example of a 17th  century hall, well preserved and with grounds to walk  in.

Lesley
Marple UK

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[lace] Stuff for sale

[Margery Allcock]

I'm having a bit of a clearout (to make room for more stuff, of course) and
have decided to sell some books, patterns, and other bits and pieces.  Most
of it is lace-related.
 
Rather than list all 27 items here, I have started a blog specially for this
purpose, at www.mslaceandcrossstitchstuff.blogspot.com - do go and have a
look.  It only seems to show a few items per page - don't miss all the other
items.
 
Margery.
=
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Hertfordshire, UK
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[lace] why I joined the list & Mark's motifs

[hottleco]

Hello All!  After moving to Erie, PA from North Canton, OH in Dec 2007, I was 
suffering from cultural withdrawal.  A friendly gal in Pittsburgh (Thank You 
Amy) suggested that I join the list, perchance to find another lacemaker closer 
than Grove City, PA or Cortland, OH with whom to commune.  That was June 2008 & 
I still haven't found anyone here but I've certainly been the beneficiary of 
help & advice on Arachne.  (What can you say when the first day of hunting 
season is considered a holiday & the local specialite de la maison is a 
hotdog!)  I've also shared some of my knowledge even though it fits in a 
thimble.  One of the first posts that I read involved a question about 
s'gravenmoer, a technique that I had actually tried & could offer a solution.  
I still get out my "flow chart" to work the motifs & my friend (the author) & I 
get a good laugh out of the blank sector in my personal hard drive regarding 
this technique!!  But as she says, once the piece is finished, the lace
  police will not know that I used the book.  So I'm a newbie to BL & 
Arachne, what fun!  To Mark--I loved the motifs you have tatted & am awed by 
your creativity.  I have several tatting friends but haven't seen anything like 
you have posted.  As to the variety of motifs for the wedding dress, there is 
precedent for this.  I believe Queen Elizabeth wore a gown with a number of 
floral motifs representing the UK--ask Jeri about the exact details.  There is 
a website with photos of the dress posted & it is a wonder.  So--follow your 
fantasy--I'm sure the dress will be a dream!  Susan, Erie, PA or as I've 
mentioned before E-e-e-rie, PA

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[lace] Majordomo

[Sue Fink]

Thank you, Avital, for the reassurance.  Like so many of you there is no way
I would want to change this list and I am pleased that Avital feels there is
no need to look at updating.  My concern was just that so many things in
computerland become obsolete and don't work on newer computers, that the
same might happen to us!!!  I also joined Bobbinlace a long time ago, but
didn't hang around for too long.  All I can see is long live Arachne and
here's to at least another 14 years!

 

Love to all,

 

Sue F

Masterton, New Zealand

 

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[lace] Majordomo, When Joined, Serendipity

[Susan Reishus]

A very large knit list hosted by a publisher, used majordomo, but had so many 
problems with AOL (first they resolved them, then AOL bounced messages) so they 
moved to another.  THey had close to 10K or that list (or more) at the time, 
and so problems are perhaps inherent.  

I joined Arachne 3-4 years ago as I had been heavily into lace knitting/knitted 
lace, Herbert Niebling and designing and found Arachne in all of that passion.  
I did all the lace forms except bobbin lace, so didn't read much many messages 
for awhile (though ventured into chat occasionally to enjoy a joke or two!).  
Then a blend of upping the ante with lace knitting and wanting more challenge, 
got into bobbin lace (well actually the Shakespeare/St. Germaine stuff brought 
me back in, which I referred to already).

I probably mentioned that I had the odd experience of trying to order Honiton 
bobbins and was told I couldn't start with those.  Then I tried describing the 
pillow I wanted, and was told that that was a Honiton pillow and I couldn't 
start with that by someone else.  Then I tried to describe the kind of lace I 
wanted to do and finally found an old book and the picture said it was Honiton 
from royalty, centuries ago.  Kind of freaky that I had had no visuals to base 
preferences upon, but innately was drawn to something that was all meant to go 
together!  

Best,
Susan Reishus
www.SusanReishusDesigns.com
  


  

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Re: [lace] Arachne Birthday...newer members... poll questions, Brenda?

[Christiane]

Three years ago, I found the California, Sunnyvale Lace Museum and was talking
with the ladies about my grandmother making lace with wooden sticks. She
showed them to me and lo and behold, i found my grandmother bobbins and a
teacher and the rest is history.
 
Since I was thinking of going back home (Switzerland) I search the net to see
what was available out there. Instead of found IOLI, Arachne and some Swiss
lace makers. Not as many as I though.
 
I read all the Arachne messages and lurk most of the time.
 
CJ in Silicon valley, CA




--- On Tue, 4/14/09, Sue  wrote:

From: Sue 
Subject: Re: [lace] Arachne Birthday...newer members... poll questions,
Brenda?
To: "Arachne" 
Date: Tuesday, April 14, 2009, 5:42 AM

I joined a little longer ago than that, perhaps almost 3 years now, but from
word of mouth from one other lacemaker, (just about the time we were told our
teacher was going to retire and no one was taking her place).  I couldn't
quite see how you could get involved in lacemaking via the internet, 
I have learned fast.

I did search the internet for things lace related then and found mention of
arachne through the international old lacers (if my memory serves me well). I
also joined the bobbinlace site but find useful and helpful information and
advice more more through you all than that one.  I really enjoy most of the
different topics of conversation.
Long may you all continue to chat and to make lace.
Sue T, Dorset UK

I would be really interested to hear from the newest members of Arachne!
Who's been here for just weeks or months?
Why did THEY join?  How did they find us?
So many of us stumbled upon it in the Search box, but maybe there are
others that came by word of mouth or flyer?

Just wondering...
Debbie in Florida
mmou...@bellsouth.net

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Re: [lace] Arachne Birthday...newer members... poll questions, Brenda?

[Randolph Lyon]

I'm Ruth from Dubuque, Iowa, USA.  I joined Arachne last fall following my
first IOLI convention in Rockford, IL.  I learned about Arachne from Anita
Hansen from Cedar Rapids, IA who belongs to the Doris Southard Lace Guild
which has members from several towns in Eastern Iowa.  I am also a member of
that group now though I live about 70 miles away from Cedar Rapids where
many meetings are held.

I first learned the basics of making bobbin lace in a class with Susan Groh
at a cross stitch festival in Des Moines, IA in the late 1990s.  I returned
home, sure that I was the only person in my city who knew anything at all
about  bobbin lacemaking.  Two years later, a friend and I began to work our
way through  beginning bobbin lace books by Bridget Cook and Geraldine
Stott.  We still get together for a few hours most weeks to make lace.  We
started with torchon, of course, but we have branched out into other laces
as our collection of BL books has grown.  We work out our problems together
though we are seldom working on the same projects now.  So the two of us
were the only lacemakers in town to our knowledge.

After a while, we read an article about a local lacemaker in the newspaper,
and we found her.  She had learned to make Withof lace while living in
Europe.  She told us about the Doris Southard lace group, and our lacemaking
circle grew dramatically.  Last fall we met an experienced lacemaker from
nearby Galena, IL.  We Dubuque area lacemakers meet one evening a month in
the café of our local Borders Books store.  We have two new lace recruits
who also come now, bringing our little group up to six people.  It's always
fun when shoppers stop to ask us what we are doing.  The most common
question seems to be,  "Is that tatting?"

I have found our Arachne lace list to be very interesting and helpful.  I am
amazed at the amount of knowledge our members share.  Thanks to all of you.

--Ruth


On 4/14/09 7:42 AM, "Sue"  wrote:

> I joined a little longer ago than that, perhaps almost 3 years now, but from
> word of mouth from one other lacemaker, (just about the time we were told
> our teacher was going to retire and no one was taking her place).  I
> couldn't quite see how you could get involved in lacemaking via the
> internet,   I have learned fast.
> 
> I did search the internet for things lace related then and found mention of
> arachne through the international old lacers (if my memory serves me well).
> I also joined the bobbinlace site but find useful and helpful information
> and advice more more through you all than that one.  I really enjoy most of
> the different topics of conversation.
> Long may you all continue to chat and to make lace.
> Sue T, Dorset UK
> 
> I would be really interested to hear from the newest members of Arachne!
> Who's been here for just weeks or months?
> Why did THEY join?  How did they find us?
> So many of us stumbled upon it in the Search box, but maybe there are
> others that came by word of mouth or flyer?
> 
> Just wondering...
> Debbie in Florida
> mmou...@bellsouth.net
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Re: [lace] I joined

[Eve Morton]

Hi Everyone,

I'm mainly a lurker with an occasional post. I joined in late 1996, I 
found Arachne after Jacqui Southworth's article 'internetting' in Lace 
84, October 1996. At the time I was on a Compuserve newsgroup which was 
mostly needlework with little lace so was delighted to find a list 
wholly devoted to lace. I had been making lace only for about 6 months. 
Can't find the exact date of joining now as I lost all the old saved 
messages when I had to change email programs when we moved to Poole mid 
2007.


What have I been doing? Just did a two day bout of demonstrating 
laceamking at a craft fair at Upton House, Poole over the Easter 
week-end with others from the Poole Bobbin Lace Circle and now have to 
prepare for a mounting lace workshop I'm going to on Saturday.


Eve
Poole, Dorset, UK

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[lace] Re Creaky Majordomo

[ann.humphreys]

I'm not sure exactly when I joined Arachne. It would be around 2005/6 I 
think. As a self taught lacemaker who has had only an occassional access to 
a tutor the members of this group have been invaluable for their help. The 
format is quite old fashioned compared to Yahoo etc., but I like that. I 
feel we are private and not easily accessible to spammers and the like who 
infest other groups.
I am a moderator for Bobbinlace on Yahoo and there are quite a few 
Arachneans who are also members there. Both groups have their advantages. 
Yahoo with its photos, links etc., and Arachne with its straightforward 
mail, digests and chat. Long may we continue. Happy Anniversary.

Ann
Yorkshire UK 


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Re: [lace] I joined......

[Sister Claire]

I've joined and left and rejoined a few times. I think it was Avital who
first told me about the list. I was just a tatter at first (and not a nun
yet); I didn't start bobbin lace until later. I remember that a few months
after I joined the first time there was an Arachne commemorative bobbin that
I purchased and it was bright orange! It's packed away upstairs at the
moment, and I don't remember the year, but maybe that will ring a bell for
someone.
Sr. Claire

On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 19:08, H. Muth  wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> I joined back in 1996 while the discussions were going on about the first
> Arachne commemoratives.  I lurk but consider many on here my friends, after
> all, I have known you for 13 years.  I don't do much bobbin lace now but am
> focusing on embroidery with the occasional bit of needlelace thrown in.
>
> Heather
> Abbotsford, BC
> An empty nester for 2 weeks now.
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Re: [lace] Creaky Majordomo

[Madame RD]

agreed !

dom from Paris where Springs seems to settle down for good ..

Avital a écrit :

Sue and others,

I meant only that majordomo is not as user-friendly as some of the
newer programs. But it does work! It just has some difficulty dealing
with HTML, certain codes, and very polite subscription requests from
Tamara. ;-P  I don't think updating it would be feasible. Arachne is
hosted at Panix.com, where Liz works (last time I was in touch with
her), so it's basically free. Majordomo is the list software and it is
robust and reliable. It's been years since I can recall the list ever
going down for any reason. I would say that as long as there's a human
(me) who can sort out subscription difficulties, there's no reason to
change. Liz doesn't want to be involved on a day-to-day level with
Arachne at the moment and I don't mind the little time it takes to
keep an eye on things because I'm connected to a computer almost all
my waking hours anyway. So the current arrangement seems to be
working.

The bigger list hosts, like Yahoo Groups, offer more whistles and
bells but you would really be opening the floodgates. The list would
balloon in size overnight. As someone pointed out, it could be
switched to a moderated list, but that's a lot more work for the
moderators (I would need help because I'm off-line during Jewish
holidays) and it makes the list a bit anemic when you have to wait a
few hours for your message to appear. One of the reasons that this
list has, in my opinion, kept its original flavour so well and
remained such a helpful and civil list is because it's off the beaten
path. It's a little harder to find and it spreads mostly by word of
mouth, so it attracts very few trolls and flamers. Honestly, I think
it's better to leave the list as it is, unless Panix.com starts to
have really serious problems.

Best wishes,

Avital


On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 9:35 AM, Sue Fink  wrote:
  

Hi Avital,

Your comment that majordomo is becoming creaky is of some concern.  It is
only to be expected though after being in use all those years and technology
advancing.  Should we be looking at updating in some way?  Perhaps we could
all contribute a little to the cost as I am sure there will be some!  Who
knows about these things?  Should we be talking to Liz about it and seeing
what can be done and can we help in some way.



Sincerely,



Sue Fink,

Masterton, New Zealand



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[lace] I joined......

[H. Muth]

Hello all,

I joined back in 1996 while the discussions were going on about the first 
Arachne commemoratives.  I lurk but consider many on here my friends, after 
all, I have known you for 13 years.  I don't do much bobbin lace now but am 
focusing on embroidery with the occasional bit of needlelace thrown in.


Heather
Abbotsford, BC
An empty nester for 2 weeks now.

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RE: [lace] Craft Supplies Help please

[Daphne Martin]

Hello Norma and everyone

   If you want to make some bobbinlace Christmas decorations. Christine
Springetts Christmas book is the one for you. The one with the green cover.

Have fun!!

 Daphne Norfolk England



> Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 06:30:50 -0700
> From: nrm_h...@yahoo.com.au
> Subject: Re: [lace] Craft Supplies Help please
> To: lace@arachne.com
>
> I've found the bangles in the $1 stores in the girl's jewelry section.  The
> ones I purchased were all gold  and I use them for my tatted snowflakes as
I'm
> still very, very new to BL and don't yet have patterns for BL snowflakes.
>
> Norma in Salem, VA/USA
>
> http://normasneedlez.blogspot.com
> http://sistersstitching.blogspot.com
> NATA #847
>
>
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[lace] Re: Arachne anniversary

[Mark, aka Tatman]

I can't remember what month, but I think I joined in 1998.  I was mostly a
lurker(like I am now) and email got so overwhelming that I had to bow out.
But then I missed getting all the wonderful tips and information.  So after
a while I resubbed and stayed.  I still lurk, soaking in all your knowledge,
but do post occasionally.

On a lace topic of what I have been working on, and some may know about it
if they frequent my blog, but I have been working on lace for my niece's
wedding dress since last fall and her wedding is in Oct of this year.  I
still have a LOT to do!  I am not working bobbin lace, but am tatting the
motifs.  I am using very fine Coron Cotton size 160(smaller than sewing
thread). It seems like it is taking me as long to tat it as if I was to
bobbin lace it.  I am tatting it in "Honiton-like" motifs and will then
connect them to fine tulle with beads.  You can view my progress on my blog:
http://tatmantats.wordpress.com

To see all the posts that pertain to the wedding lace, go here:

http://tatmantats.wordpress.com/category/christinas-wedding-lace/

Happy Lacing,

-- 
Mark, aka Tatman..from cold and rainy Greenville, IL USA
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[lace] Bangles, Yahoo, etc.

[Susan Reishus]

Having a 12 yo, I know that Indian bangles are the rage (and have been for a 
couple of years, so you can get them at Target in the US, and most malls have 
Claire's and Icing, which are "jewelry" stores that cater to young girls and 
then teens/young adults.  Of course as mentioned FireMountainGems.com and 
others have them too by googling, if they fade from popularity, you should 
still be able to find them even via eBay.  

Yahoo is a real Russian roulette, and I have seen many groups go awry and 
require tough moderation.  Some call the internet the Wild West, but there are 
those who tend to hang out and instigate trouble.  If someone is really into 
lace, then they can find Arachne easily enough.  I have seen quite a few really 
good groups move off Yahoo because of problems, and have to set up private 
servers.  Spam can be a real problem there, plus they advertise at the bottom 
of posts.  Google is newer and cleaner, but similar in that if there is a 
problem, the host has ultimate control, which could be helpful.

Do I have lines?  (my copy/text) 

Trying different tactics.

Happy Pesach Avital!

Best,
Susan Reishus
 


  

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Re: [lace] Creaky Majordomo

[Clay Blackwell]

I agree with you completely, Jean!!  The Yahoo groups have so many bells 
and whistles, but with all that, they aren't a bit better...  except, 
perhaps, that you can post pictures.  Part of the appeal of this group 
is that it appears in my mail, just as any other email, and so I feel 
more directly connected to everyone!


Clay

Jean Nathan wrote:

Sue wrote:



A couple/few years ago we had trouble with a disruptive member - think 
that was when Avital took on the moderation. Someone from the persons 
service provider set up another group for us - might be the Yahoo 
Group that's currently running. Several Arachne members joined that, 
BUT they also stayed with Arachne. Yahoo groups are free to set up and 
run, and can be done by anyone, so there's no need for cost, which 
would be extremely difficult to collect and co-ordinate with the 
number of different countries and currencies associated with our members.


Don't know what it is, but to me there's something very appealing 
about this group and the way it operates - more so than any other 
group I belong to.


Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK
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Re: [lace] Arachne Birthday...newer members... poll questions, Brenda?

[Norma Harris]

Debbie, I'll answer your questions.  I joined Oct. 27, 2008 (keep my
enrollment posts for all my groups).  The main reason I joined was to learn
from experienced lace makers but my teacher was also a major influence.  I
found you first just by searching the web but didn't know if this list was for
raw beginners  thanks to my teacher I'm learning much from everyone here. 
Thank all of you so much for all the wonderful information presented here.

I've just finished my second sample piece of lace  my teacher hasn't seen
it yet as my next class is Mon. (20th) and I'm looking forward to my first
project, a bookmark.  I've posted a pic on my blog if anyone would like to see
and comment.

Norma in Salem, VA/USA

http://normasneedlez.blogspot.com
http://sistersstitching.blogspot.com
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RE: [lace] Arachne Birthday...newer members... poll questions, Brenda?

[Nancy Nicholson]

HI



I am not sure how long I have been on the list.  Maybe a year or a little
longer but not by much.  I started off learning lace from a book and then
eventually found a night class in bobbin lace which has helped me
tremendously.  I was in a Yahoo Freecycle group and decided to do a search for
a lace group and found one there.  As someone said there is not as much
happening on that particular list so I decided just to do a general search on
lace and Arachne was one of the suggestions that appeared.  I tried a few
times to join and just couldnt figure it out at all (I didnt address it as
Dear Majordomo though :) )  I gave it up for a while and then tried again and
eventually was successful.  Still dont know what I did different that time!  I
lurked for a while just trying to work out some of the subjects talked about
until I picked up the courage to ask a question myself.  Now I do submit an
email on a fairly regular basis.  I am always very pleased with the answers I
get and if I have forgotten to thank anyone for them I'm sorry and do so now.
I am so glad I found Arachne!!






Nancy in Dundee




> Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 08:25:09 -0400
> From: mmou...@bellsouth.net
> To: lace@arachne.com
> Subject: [lace] Arachne Birthday...newer members... poll questions, Brenda?
>
> A few years ago, there was a lot of talk about how many years everyone
> had been on the list. I remember someone had a list of people who had
> enquired about something that was possibly being planned, and she still
> had her list. It was from 1995. I was on it. That is the ONLY reason I
> know I have been part of this list that long. At least I think it was
> that long :) I do know our first computer was not too old, our internet
> service was newish, and we were paying by the minute for internet time!
> For awhile, my membership was off and on - not unlike my husband's and
> my dating relationship :) but for awhile now, it has been solid...even
> if I don't know how long. (btw...my marriage has been on for over 34
> years :)
>
> I would be really interested to hear from the newest members of Arachne!
> Who's been here for just weeks or months?
> Why did THEY join? How did they find us?
> So many of us stumbled upon it in the Search box, but maybe there are
> others that came by word of mouth or flyer?
>
> Just wondering...
> Debbie in Florida
> mmou...@bellsouth.net
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Re: [lace] Arachne Birthday...newer members... poll questions, Brenda?

[Sue]

I joined a little longer ago than that, perhaps almost 3 years now, but from 
word of mouth from one other lacemaker, (just about the time we were told 
our teacher was going to retire and no one was taking her place).  I 
couldn't quite see how you could get involved in lacemaking via the 
internet,   I have learned fast.


I did search the internet for things lace related then and found mention of 
arachne through the international old lacers (if my memory serves me well). 
I also joined the bobbinlace site but find useful and helpful information 
and advice more more through you all than that one.  I really enjoy most of 
the different topics of conversation.

Long may you all continue to chat and to make lace.
Sue T, Dorset UK

I would be really interested to hear from the newest members of Arachne!
Who's been here for just weeks or months?
Why did THEY join?  How did they find us?
So many of us stumbled upon it in the Search box, but maybe there are
others that came by word of mouth or flyer?

Just wondering...
Debbie in Florida
mmou...@bellsouth.net

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Fw: [lace] Creaky Majordomo

[Sue]

  I have subscribed and unsubscribed several times when away from home 
for more than a few days, with a great deal of difficulty mostly.
(Due to me and how I read instructions mostly), but I have finally worked it 
out and this time was the first time I have managed straight in without 
difficulty.


Yippeee, and thank you all for the wonderful support, help and advise so 
freely given to help some of us mature, but not so experienced lacemakers.

Sue T, Dorset UK


P.S.

In a way, Majordomo is quite appropriate for our list. Arachne is 14
(I think) years old, which is ancient by Internet standards. Most of
us aren't spring chickens. So it's no surprise that our server
software is old, creaky, and reliable. 

Avital

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[lace] Arachne Birthday...newer members... poll questions, Brenda?

[the Mouzons]

A few years ago, there was a lot of talk about how many years everyone 
had been on the list.  I remember someone had a list of people who had 
enquired about something that was possibly being planned, and she still 
had her list.  It was from 1995. I was on it.  That is the ONLY reason I 
know I have been part of this list that long.  At least I think it was 
that long :)  I do know our first computer was not too old, our internet 
service was newish, and we were paying by the minute for internet time!  
For awhile, my membership was off and on - not unlike my husband's and 
my dating relationship :)  but for awhile now, it has been solid...even 
if I don't know how long. (btw...my marriage has been on for over 34 
years :)


I would be really interested to hear from the newest members of Arachne!
Who's been here for just weeks or months?
Why did THEY join?  How did they find us?
So many of us stumbled upon it in the Search box, but maybe there are 
others that came by word of mouth or flyer?


Just wondering...
Debbie in Florida
mmou...@bellsouth.net

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Re: [lace] Creaky Majordomo

[Avital]

P.S.

In a way, Majordomo is quite appropriate for our list. Arachne is 14
(I think) years old, which is ancient by Internet standards. Most of
us aren't spring chickens. So it's no surprise that our server
software is old, creaky, and reliable. 

Avital

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Re: [lace] Creaky Majordomo

[Avital]

Sue and others,

I meant only that majordomo is not as user-friendly as some of the
newer programs. But it does work! It just has some difficulty dealing
with HTML, certain codes, and very polite subscription requests from
Tamara. ;-P  I don't think updating it would be feasible. Arachne is
hosted at Panix.com, where Liz works (last time I was in touch with
her), so it's basically free. Majordomo is the list software and it is
robust and reliable. It's been years since I can recall the list ever
going down for any reason. I would say that as long as there's a human
(me) who can sort out subscription difficulties, there's no reason to
change. Liz doesn't want to be involved on a day-to-day level with
Arachne at the moment and I don't mind the little time it takes to
keep an eye on things because I'm connected to a computer almost all
my waking hours anyway. So the current arrangement seems to be
working.

The bigger list hosts, like Yahoo Groups, offer more whistles and
bells but you would really be opening the floodgates. The list would
balloon in size overnight. As someone pointed out, it could be
switched to a moderated list, but that's a lot more work for the
moderators (I would need help because I'm off-line during Jewish
holidays) and it makes the list a bit anemic when you have to wait a
few hours for your message to appear. One of the reasons that this
list has, in my opinion, kept its original flavour so well and
remained such a helpful and civil list is because it's off the beaten
path. It's a little harder to find and it spreads mostly by word of
mouth, so it attracts very few trolls and flamers. Honestly, I think
it's better to leave the list as it is, unless Panix.com starts to
have really serious problems.

Best wishes,

Avital


On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 9:35 AM, Sue Fink  wrote:
> Hi Avital,
>
> Your comment that majordomo is becoming creaky is of some concern.  It is
> only to be expected though after being in use all those years and technology
> advancing.  Should we be looking at updating in some way?  Perhaps we could
> all contribute a little to the cost as I am sure there will be some!  Who
> knows about these things?  Should we be talking to Liz about it and seeing
> what can be done and can we help in some way.
>
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
>
>
> Sue Fink,
>
> Masterton, New Zealand

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Re: [lace] appealing group

[lucieduf]

> Don't know what it is, but to me there's something very appealing about
> this
> group and the way it operates - more so than any other group I belong to.
>
> Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK


So very true! Lets not change anything for as long as we can!

Lucie DuFresne
Ottawa Canada

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[lace] Re: Arachne anniversary

[Jane Partridge]

In message <593842996806737bf4ad00e9639e3...@appleshack.com>, Brenda 
Paternoster  writes

Aah Nottingham!  I was trying to think which Lace Guild convention it
went with, but Nottingham was  OIDFA.


OIDFA was later - 2002  - while I was on the Exec - Eve and I were on 
the Lace Guild stand and stayed with my parents-in-law (who live in 
Nottingham) for the weekend.  The Guild's convention in 98 was held in 
Derby.

--
Jane Partridge

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Re: [lace] Creaky Majordomo

[Sue Duckles]

I would agree with this.  There is something really special about  
Arachne that doesn't seem to happen in any other group.  However, it  
is possible to set up groups on Yahoo which are moderated, and people  
can only join if approved, it seems though that the discussions on  
those groups are, as Brenda says, shallow.  They don't seem to have  
the depth of knowledge which exists on here (unless of course, that is  
what comes with age. and this group is ancient by internet  
standards!!) (VBG)


Sue in EY
On 14 Apr 2009, at 09:09, Brenda Paternoster wrote:


I agree with you Jean.

I am subscribed to Yahoo bobbinlace but I don't often post there.   
Somehow there seems to be a shallowness about the discussions on  
that group which doesn't happen with Arachne, but I can't really say  
why it is.  It's not just that Arachne has long established members;  
new people often join us and they make valuable contributions to our  
discussions.


Brenda


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[lace] Creaky Majordomo

[Jane Partridge]

In message , Jean 
Nathan  writes

A couple/few years ago we had trouble with a disruptive member - think that
was when Avital took on the moderation. Someone from the persons service
provider set up another group for us - might be the Yahoo Group that's
currently running. Several Arachne members joined that, BUT they also stayed
with Arachne.


I thought the Yahoo Group (don't you have to register with Yahoo to use 
them? - that has always put me off) was set up when we were talking 
about doing a group Arachne project for the "Seven" competition, and it 
was agreed that those participating would discuss the project on that 
group but report back to the main list every so often - it then appeared 
to die a death as the globe, as far as I am aware, never materialised 
and nothing more was said on the list.


--
Jane Partridge

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[lace] Arachne anniversary - was Holding spangles

[Jane Partridge]

In message 
, Avital 
 writes

The list is 14 years old? Then I must be mistaken about when I joined.
I guess those diapers were older than I thought! OK, I have to join
the group that hasn't a clue, but I think it was probably at most
12-13 years that I've been on Arachne.


You were definitely on the list by Passover of the year your son was 
two, because I remember the episode you told us of using cinnamon to 
deter the column of ants he was busy crawling after! Your husband was 
away doing national service at the time, if I remember correctly, and 
you were struggling to move the cooker to clean everywhere in 
preparation. (I think it was the mental image of him and the ants that 
made it stick in my mind this long).


It seems unbelievable that he is now almost sixteen - thought it was 
only last year he had his bar mitzvah!

--
Jane Partridge

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Re: [lace] Creaky Majordomo

[Brenda Paternoster]

I agree with you Jean.

I am subscribed to Yahoo bobbinlace but I don't often post there.  
Somehow there seems to be a shallowness about the discussions on that 
group which doesn't happen with Arachne, but I can't really say why it 
is.  It's not just that Arachne has long established members; new 
people often join us and they make valuable contributions to our 
discussions.


Brenda

On 14 Apr 2009, at 08:35, Jean Nathan wrote:

Don't know what it is, but to me there's something very appealing 
about this group and the way it operates - more so than any other 
group I belong to.


Brenda in Allhallows, Kent
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Re: [lace] Re: Arachne anniversary

[Brenda Paternoster]

Aah Nottingham!  I was trying to think which Lace Guild convention it 
went with, but Nottingham was  OIDFA.  I only went up there for one day 
to see the exhibition.  I think that was the xhibition where one of the 
displays was dozens, perhaps a couple of hundred, lace butterflies.


As we have discovered with Arachne's birthday, time does dull the 
memory.  I have been to every one of the The Lace Guild weekend 
conventions, and will be at Worcester next weekend, but with so many 
now they all tend to merge together.  I have listed all 17 of them and 
what I can remember about each.  Much of the time it's the hotel or 
where we went on the way home that has the strongest memory!  Things 
like workshops and talks I can remember attending, but couldn't say 
where it was!


Brenda

On 13 Apr 2009, at 23:23, Tamara P Duvall wrote:



I don't remember the arachne convention in 1998 - probably had Exec 
business that evening.


It would have had to have been an exhausting humdinger of a meeting; 
Arachne '98 (in Nottingham) was a week-long event :)





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[lace] Creaky Majordomo

[Jean Nathan]

Sue wrote:



A couple/few years ago we had trouble with a disruptive member - think that 
was when Avital took on the moderation. Someone from the persons service 
provider set up another group for us - might be the Yahoo Group that's 
currently running. Several Arachne members joined that, BUT they also stayed 
with Arachne. Yahoo groups are free to set up and run, and can be done by 
anyone, so there's no need for cost, which would be extremely difficult to 
collect and co-ordinate with the number of different countries and 
currencies associated with our members.


Don't know what it is, but to me there's something very appealing about this 
group and the way it operates - more so than any other group I belong to.


Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK 


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