Re: [lace] Bobbins holder?
Hi Helen and everyone, That looks like a stand that would work. An easy way to keep count of the pairs wound as well. They also have half day workshops for woodturning using a lathe. It may be a start for anyone interested in exploring the techniques used to create bobbins. On my someday list. Thanks for the reminder. Jocelyn in Winnipeg, enjoying the summer in Central Canada Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 7, 2018, at 10:31 PM, Helen Clarke wrote: > > This seems ideal for those who travel and like to have their pairs of bobbins > hanging ready. > > http://www.leevalley.com/en/garden/page.aspx?p=76776=52=1 > > Regards, Helen on the west coast of mainland Canada. > > - > To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: > unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to > arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
RE: [lace] bobbins
I believe number 4 is indeed a Springett bobbin, tail and head are very typical of David's bobbins. This is what Wikipedia says about Horn: A horn is a pointed projection of skin on the head of various animals consisting of a covering of keratin and other proteins surrounding a core of live bone. It is flexible to some extent, and may therefore distort over time. Agnes Boddington - Elloughton UK Hello All! My bobbin pics are posted. Can anyone share additional info? The first is the Arachne bobbin with spider bead spangle. Next is Stephen Pierce (Pearce?). Next is The Lace Hall Nottingham with a terrific painted cat spangles. The last looks like Tonder gimp fingers may be Springett? I also posted a pic of some horn bobbins for Brian. They are not old but quite pretty. I've not used them much because they become semi-flexible when handled frequently. Not sure I understand why--perhaps they should have been treated/coated with varnish?? Any thoughts? Many thanks. Sincerely, Susan Hottle, Erie, PA USA - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] RE: lace bobbins
Susan The second one is not a Stephen Pearce the tail shape is quite different - here a link to a picture of one of his: http://web.archive.org/web/20030804042826/http://homepages.tesco.net/~stephen.pearce/ I can't quite tell from the picture - is there a little groove round the top of the head? if so it might be one of Geoff Mudge's he doesn't have a website. I'll have a better look when I get home and can compare to mine. Louise In distinctly autumnal feeling Cambridge - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
RE: [lace] bobbins
The Arachne bobbin was to celebrate the 1st anniversary in 1996. I have a pair, one dark blue the other light blue (now slightly greenish with age). They were from England. Possibly Margaret Hall? We have had a few new computers since then and the old information is lost. Jay in Sydney -Original Message- From: owner-l...@arachne.com [mailto:owner-l...@arachne.com] On Behalf Of hottl...@neo.rr.com Sent: Wednesday, 13 August 2014 11:56 AM To: lace@arachne.com Subject: [lace] bobbins Hello All! My bobbin pics are posted. Can anyone share additional info? The first is the Arachne bobbin with spider bead spangle. - - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] bobbins
Dear Alex fellow Arachnids, Alex you hit the nail on the head. Use the bobbins you are comfortable with but also; use them with the pillow you feel comfortable with using. Spangled midlands bobbins can be used on a flat pillow as well as continentals and continentals can be used on a slightly domed pillow. There are just a couple of provisos; Honiton bobbins work better on a domed pillow as they are very lightweight and on travelpillows one works more easily with the slightly shorter bobbins whether they be spangled midlands travellers or the shorter continentals. Happy lace making, Joepie, East Sussex, UK were the sun is shining but it is a little cooler than the last week has been. -Original Message- From: Alex Stillwell Many years ago I taught an introduction to Valenciennes lace ... My personal advice is use the bobbins you are comfortable with, no matter what the type of lace, and use the correct pillow with them. . - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Re: Lace Bobbins
Could these be part of a game? - YES! they are more likely Mahjong counters than they are lace making bobbins. The Chinese didn't make lace...they did amazing embroidery. As someone pointed out there is fabric or cord in some of the holes. I'd think they were beads attached to a bit of clothing or on strings used for hair decorations before I'd think they were anything else. Also, if that part of the ID is off they may not even bee Chinese in origin. -- Never, ever, let anyone tell you what you can and can't do. Prove the cynics wrong. Pity them for they have no imagination. The sky's the limit. *Your* sky. *Your *limit. Now, let's dance. *~Tom Hiddleston* - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] bobbins with peeps
The only thing I've found about stanhopes and bobbins is the following thread here at Arachne: http://www.mail-archive.com/lace@arachne.com/msg12148.html Yours, John Mead, in Tacoma, WA where the weather is lovely - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Bobbins with Stanhopes
In my collection of lace and embroidery tools are 2 antique needle cases containing Stanhopes. One has an early photo of Jerusalem, and was purchased over 20 years ago at an antiques show. The other was purchased in February from a Maine antiques dealer. It contains two early views of Niagara Falls. The Stanhope part is inserted in a hole bored through the end of the needle case. Think of the hole you drill in bobbins meant for spangling, but large enough to hold the tiny magnifying glass inserts in which a picture can be seen. These needle cases are carved scrimshaw whalebone items. The external appearance is like hollow Mother and Babe bone bobbins, but larger in diameter and 5 inches in length. The open carved windows are similar. There are screw-on tops, to keep needles inside. This was a way to secure larger sewing needles that might damage pin cushions. I suspect the carved openings were to keep air circulating at a time when needles were made of metals that easily developed rust. Are you thinking that new Stanhopes are being made?My needle cases are probably from the 1800's. To find Stanhopes, I think there is a way to search on eBay by a specific name. If you Google, you should be able to find pictures of Stanhopes inserted in various items and see how they were used. Books on needlework tools often show photos of these. Jeri Ames in Maine USA Lace and Embroidery Resource Center -- In a message dated 4/25/2013 10:50:27 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, ir_st_w...@shaw.ca writes: Does anyone know who supplies the bobbins with peeps? I'm not sure if I have the right word but it a little thing that you look into that has a picture! My group is interested in contacting a supplier. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] bobbins with peeps
Hi Irene and fellow Arachnids, I don't know if anyone supplies these but they are called Stanhopes after the fellow who invented them. Could you let us know if you find someone who deals in them, please? Happy lace making, Joepie, East Sussex, UK -Original Message- From: Whitham, Irene Steve Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 3:49 AM To: lace@arachne.com Subject: [lace] bobbins with peeps Hello all, Does anyone know who supplies the bobbins with peeps? I'm not sure if I have the right word but it a little thing that you look into that has a picture! My group is interested in contacting a supplier. Irene Whitham Surrey, BC Canada - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] bobbins
You mean all of them? Not sure how I would go about it. Btw: I just checked, and I have 565 different ones, not 557. Agnes Boddington Agnes It would be wonderful to post photographs of those bobbins on the internet. Hint hint. Lorelei - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
Re: [lace] bobbins
That is for sure. Lyn Lorelei wrote: Agnes I was thinking, all of them. I know it is wishful thinking. But if you ever get the urge, I think you would have a lot of viewers. Lorelei - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
Re: [lace] bobbins
Lorelei wrote: Agnes I was thinking, all of them. But I'm laughing because I understand what a huge project that would be. I know it is wishful thinking. But if you ever get the urge, I think you would have a lot of viewers. Lorelei Why don't you choose 5 bobbins that you consider to be very interesting, or pretty, or important to you, take a photograph, and post the photograph on the Ning site _http://laceioli.ning.com/_ (http://laceioli.ning.com/) in the Tools and Equipment discussion group where I have posted the pictures of my tiny Valenciennes bobbins. I am sure that Lorelei will help you post it if necessary. Devon - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
Re: [lace] bobbins and music
I have a small set of bamboo bobbins. They make a delightful noise as I use them. They were given to me by a friend. Unfortunately I only have 12 bobbins so I can't use them very often. Liz Redford Raleigh, NC, USA Nancy Neff nnef...@yahoo.com wrote: Has anyone else noticed a difference in tunings among sets of different kinds of bobbins? Perhaps this is unique to Continental bobbins, since I'll bet that the different beads and types of decorations would make Midlands bobbins sound slightly different from each other. I'll be curious to to hear what you've heard... Nancy Connecticut, USA - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] bobbins and music
Lorelei wrote: I've often thought of just hanging them up in a bunch giving them a whack as i walk past, so I could hear all the tones. A few years ago I bought a packet of unfinished wood Midlands bobbins. I strung them on a piece of fishing line and hung them up so I could spray them with a clear finish. The way they spiral and move, and the way they sound when they touch each other would make a great wind chime. I bought two more packets recently with the idea of doing just that. Will post a picture when I get around to making it. Ithaca bound in 3 days. Can't wait! It's going to be beautiful weather for camping and lacemaking. Peg in Fairview Park OH, where it's a temperate 58F...and not raining...moon is shining brightly - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] bobbins and music
I love the sound of my old little antique Bucks bobbins. They are mostly made of fruit-woods. When Jacquie and I were in Camariñas, Spain, in April people were very interested in watching her use her Midlands bobbins with all the spangles and (a little less so) interested in seeing my little Bucks bobbins which are just a little more than half the size of the Spanish bobbins. We learned the words to explain what we were using. Malvary in Ottawa where we have another grey day, but the temperature has gone up a few degrees now we have passed the weekend. Supposed to be nice by the end of the week. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] bobbins and music
Nancy, al my different bobbins, different in shape and in wood, make different sounds. Some more noisy others nearly silent, some more melodic others more unmusical. And it depends how quick you work. Ilske - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] bobbins and music
Nancy Neff nnef...@yahoo.com wrote: Has anyone else noticed a difference in tunings among sets of different kinds of bobbins? Perhaps this is unique to Continental bobbins, since I'll bet that the different beads and types of decorations would make Midlands bobbins sound slightly different from each other. Some Spanish bobbins are simple cylinders, I think out of olive wood. They have a wonderfully rich sound. They're the best-sounding wood bobbins I've found. The sound makes up for the bland appearance. Glass bobbins make a wonderful tinkling sound, like an old-fashioned wind chime. I don't need a lot of them on a pillow, just a couple of pairs. [I don't think I'd like constant tinkling.] For anybody who has been afraid to use glass bobbins, go for it! They're usually made of Pyrex which is stronger than plain glass. As long as you don't drop them on tile/concrete, or sit on them, they are really quite hardy. Robin P. Los Angeles, California, USA robinl...@socal.rr.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Bobbins with detachable heads
Right, as promised I rummaged through my boxes and found the bobbin with the detachable head that I have and then spent another 20 minutes trying to find the spool of thread that came with it. I've done some shots of it and uploaded them to my website where I'm logging all my bobbins. It's on the unknown makers' page and you will need to scroll down to the bottom of the page to find it. http://thelacebee.weebly.com/unknown-makers.html Because the shots came out rather well I've managed to enlarge the details more than they are on the spool and did a quick search for the maker. There is a very small reference to it in google books and I've put the reference to this as a link on the page. I bought the bobbin from De Denne in Kenton, North West London - long gone from the place it was as the bridge it was on over the railway has even gone and been moved about 20 metres away. Does anyone know what happened to the shop? There was a wonderful needlecraft shop in Pinner that also went about the same time - c. 1993. Kind Regards Liz Baker thelace...@btinternet.com My chronicle of my bobbins can be found at my website: http://thelacebee.weebly.com/ --- On Sun, 20/2/11, The Lace Bee thelace...@btinternet.com wrote: From: The Lace Bee thelace...@btinternet.com Subject: Re: [lace] Bobbins with detachable heads To: lace@arachne.com, Brian Lemin brid...@bigpond.com Date: Sunday, 20 February, 2011, 23:03 I'll have a rummage, at the weekend, and see if I can't find the spool and the bobbin. L Kind Regards Liz Baker thelace...@btinternet.com http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Bobbins with detachable heads
I'll have a rummage, at the weekend, and see if I can't find the spool and the bobbin. L Kind Regards Liz Baker thelace...@btinternet.com My chronicle of my bobbins can be found at my website: http://thelacebee.weebly.com/ --- On Sun, 20/2/11, Brian Lemin brid...@bigpond.com wrote: From: Brian Lemin brid...@bigpond.com Subject: [lace] Bobbins with detachable heads To: lace@arachne.com Date: Sunday, 20 February, 2011, 22:12 Quite fascinating, especially to learn that they came with spools! The style of bobbin is a well known style and I doubt if we pulled the heads of these bobbins they would come apart! I would suggest the detachable head style was made for this system. Thank you indeed for thinking about me. Working on the Metropolitan Museum collection of bobbins at the moment (104 of them) . Most interesting. Two of Gertrude Lawrence's illustrations are in the original. The fabulous spangle (Which I plan to write about) and the Gorgous Italian glass bobbin. If they will let me publish I might do a Bobbin Gems from the Met article. Of the 104 probably say a dozen are of some merit. I noticed two bugger bobbins amongst them. I will need to tell you about that type of bobbin another time. It is a real thing but a fun thing! :) PS those who know me will know that I do not use the above B word in my vocabulary! Having fun! Brian and Jean From Cooranbong. Australia You can read my bobbin stuff on: http://tiny.cc/egb85 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] bobbins
Yes, this is the second time this has happened. Maybe, there is somerthing wrong with her e-mail server. Sallie --Original Message-- From: Elizabeth Ligeti Sender: owner-l...@arachne.com To: arachne lacing ReplyTo: Elizabeth Ligeti Subject: [lace] bobbins Sent: Feb 12, 2011 17:55 Thank you, Brian, for posting that Ebay number for the Abbott bobbins,. As soon as I saw them I realized I had a similar one, - had a look for it, - and Yes! I have one!! So now I can add the makers name to it!! It is fairly slim, and I see I have spangled it, so it came down from Grandma without its original spangle. - Nevertheless, it works well!! - as do most of my old bobbins. I have one bone bobbin put away in the safe, as it has a damaged head which snags threads, but I use all the others. On another question, - I have the Digest form of Lace, and I have started getting messages (in this digest - 2 messages) that are total gobbledygook - from helene3...@yahoo.com Subject: [lace] OMG! did you block me on Yahoo? Are others getting it like this too? They scroll down quite a way, so take up a lot of the digest. Regards from Liz in Melbourne, Oz lizl...@bigpond.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003 Sent from my BlackBerry Smartphone provided by Alltel - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] bobbins/weird message
Hi everyone - not about bobbins, but the weird message is spam of some kind. Delete it. A shame it has to clutter the digests though :( On 2/12/11, bertra...@gmail.com bertra...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, this is the second time this has happened. ... On another question, - I have the Digest form of Lace, and I have started getting messages (in this digest - 2 messages) that are total gobbledygook - -- Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] bobbins
Yes I've received two as well. Diana in Northants - Original Message - From: Elizabeth Ligeti lizl...@bigpond.com To: lace@arachne.com Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2011 11:55 PM Subject: [lace] bobbins Thank you, Brian, for posting that Ebay number for the Abbott bobbins,. As soon as I saw them I realized I had a similar one, - had a look for it, - and Yes! I have one!! So now I can add the makers name to it!! It is fairly slim, and I see I have spangled it, so it came down from Grandma without its original spangle. - Nevertheless, it works well!! - as do most of my old bobbins. I have one bone bobbin put away in the safe, as it has a damaged head which snags threads, but I use all the others. On another question, - I have the Digest form of Lace, and I have started getting messages (in this digest - 2 messages) that are total gobbledygook - from helene3...@yahoo.com Subject: [lace] OMG! did you block me on Yahoo? Are others getting it like this too? They scroll down quite a way, so take up a lot of the digest. Regards from Liz in Melbourne, Oz lizl...@bigpond.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Bobbins
Liz, Brian, - I have an old bone bobbin with Pharaoh engraved on it. I have always wondered the what, why, who's about it!! It was one from my family, - so Grandma's bobbin, or Great Grandmas, or..?? Surely it must be the name of a pet - cat or dog Or perhaps an ancient forebear - LOL David in Ballarat - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
Re: [lace] Bobbins
'Pharaoh' would possibly fit into the religious or biblical category. Though I've seen them with King Pharaoh or Pharaoh King - which can be read either way but I would think probably the latter. Diana in Northants where we have snowdrops coming through in the garden - Spring!? - Original Message - From: Elizabeth Ligeti lizl...@bigpond.com To: lace@arachne.com Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2011 2:03 AM Subject: [lace] Bobbins Brian, - I have an old bone bobbin with Pharaoh engraved on it. I have always wondered the what, why, who's about it!! It was one from my family, - so Grandma's bobbin, or Great Grandmas, or..?? Curious!!! Re your kayaks - don't you live in the middle of NSW - quite a long way from water? (Just being cheeky! :-) ) Regards from Liz in Melbourne, Oz. lizl...@bigpond.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
Re: [lace] Bobbins
Hi, Pharaoh could also be a card game which could be played with quite high stakes. Joepie, Battle, East Sussex -Original Message- From: David C COLLYER Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2011 12:06 PM To: Elizabeth Ligeti ; lace@arachne.com Subject: Re: [lace] Bobbins Liz, Brian, - I have an old bone bobbin with Pharaoh engraved on it. I have always wondered the what, why, who's about it!! It was one from my family, - so Grandma's bobbin, or Great Grandmas, or..?? Surely it must be the name of a pet - cat or dog Or perhaps an ancient forebear - LOL David in Ballarat - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
Re: [lace] RE: lace-bobbins and types
Of course this all falls down when you consider Buck thumpers... Why? Many of my South Bucks style bobbins are quite small and light in weight, much smaller than those often thought of as Thumpers, and of course none of them have the weight of a spangle. Also, often the old spangles were much heavier than the modern ones, (and are usually changed when I buy old bobbins) so that would make the unspangled bobbins even lighter by comparison. Before you all throw up your hands in horror, I buy bobbins to use, not to look at. I don't believe that the spangle on the bobbin is very often likely to be the original one anyway, but I do keep the old beads separate from new ones and only use old beads on old bobbins; I mostly just need to make the spangle smaller to get a more functional spangle for my lacemaking style. This has the added bonus of leaving beads over, so when I buy old bobbins which have lost their spangle, I have authentic beads to use. To tie in with what Louise was saying, it is possible that one of the reasons why a some of the old bobbins have almost out of proportion heavy spangles (now, or since photography at least) was because the style/size of bobbins were originally used with finer thread, and the weight of the spangles were increased as the thread became thicker. There seem to be too many with these big, clunky spangles for it to be just someone's taste; I feel there has to be a logical reason for it. These were tools of the trade, not the fashion accessories our bobbins mostly are now. But as for the modern bobbins being thinner than the old ones, I don't necessarily agree with that. Many of my plain Old Maid wooden bobbins are very fine. It may just be that over the years these bobbins have been more vulnerable to breakage and loss than their more sturdy companions. Jacquie in a slightly foggy, cold, dank Stamford, just 50 or so miles up the A1 from Louise in foggy cold dank Cambridge. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
[lace] Re: Lace bobbins and types
I have a wide collection of spangled midlands(many of them painted by our CelticDreamWeaver and I cherish them!) and continentals that I have collected over the years. True that the painted and decorated bobbins(both midlands and continentals) do get a lot of my attention when lacing. But I do concentrate more on what I am lacing then stopping to smell the roses(bobbins). If I stop it is more to situate my posture or see what I missed on the tv or to get up and stretch or do something else. I am not one to sit for hours and lace, unless I am at a demonstration. Hence why not much lace gets done! I tend to pick bobbins according to the project. If it is a pattern that has a lot of sewings then I don't typically pick spangled midlands. I go for the more pointed continentals. 4 special bobbins always make it to my pillow. They were turned by my lace teacher's husband and are exclusive to her needs. They are continentals with a very pointed end for the purpose of sewings and making tallies, but have a good weight to them. Plus they handle well and feel good in my hands. That is another factor. Does it feel good in my hands. Working with the bobbins and how they handle with my big hands is a major factor. I have worked with all types and found that the very large bulby type just fit and toss about quite nicely with my fingers. I do have trouble with skinny spangled or skinny continentals. Even the square bobbins tend to slip my fingers and can be a frustration. The bulby Belgium style or Danish or any of the large bobbins work well with my hands and I can lace fairly fast with them. It does get frustrating to have to make sure my fingers cooperate with the bobbins, and then my lacing gets slow. Not that I am trying to race with the lace. I just want to enjoy it. But little blips in the process do hinder. I have found that working on a bolster with bobbins palms up works better for my hands. Not that it is what I always use. I enjoy using all types of pillows and bobbins. The painted and decorated bobbins are a feast for the eyes, as is the lace that comes out from it. Working with bobbins that fit your hand is also a lacemakers delight. ;) -- Mark, aka Tatman website: http://www.tat-man.net blog: http://tat-man.net/blog Magic Thread Shop: http://www.tat-man.net/tatterville/tatshop/tatshop.html email: tat...@tat-man.net Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/tatmantats - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
RE: [lace] bobbins
At Lace in the Forum (our biannual mass demonstration of Nofolk Lacemakers) one of the members took photos of most of our pillows, but the thing she was most interested in were the hands making the lace, when we saw all the photos it was truly amazing how she had caught the very act of making lace it really is something that I think will be of interest to lacemakers in the future. Sue M Harvey Norfolk UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
Re: [lace] bobbins
It would be really great if there could be a place online where pictures of bobbins could be shown from this collection or that collection. I have to admit that over the years I have tried to get picture of pillows with the bobbins on them in different lacing classes. I think it if fun looking at the pictures later on and seeing all the different bobbins decorating and being used in a lace project. Maybe some of you can take a picture of your pillow with lace in process and show off the bobbins that are right at this moment dancing on your pillows. It would be nice if you could share ...is there anybody else out there interested in seeing pillows with lace in progress and the dancing bobbins on them? OR am I the only one that is facinated at seeing all kinds of bobbins on one pillow. Wind To Thy Wings, Sherry celticdreamwe...@yahoo.com http://celticdreamweaver.com/ http://celticdreamweave.blogspot.com/ Nata 616 - Original Message From: Jane O'Connor jjo...@sbcglobal.net To: lace@arachne.com Sent: Mon, October 25, 2010 9:58:36 AM Subject: [lace] bobbins Hi, Since bobbins are a topic again, perhaps someone will know the bobbin painter with the initials A P T. The painting is similiar to Shirley Gates but brighter, heavier on the paint and the initials are on the bottom knob. Jane O'Connor jjo...@sbcglobal.net New Lenox, IL USA Birthdays are good for you; the more you have, the longer you live. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
Re: [lace] Bobbins - address correction
Please note that there's a space after the // that needs removed before the address will work. Try: http://jeanmaryeke.com Alice in Oregon - Original Message - However, I have posted , on my website, a very few bobbins which may be of interest to you. Go to http:// jeanmaryeke.com scroll down the first page to about the middle and click on the spider's web. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
Re: [lace] Bobbins - address correction
Try this link http://www.jeanmaryeke.com Jean On 22 Oct 2010, at 18:08, lacel...@frontier.com wrote: Please note that there's a space after the // that needs removed before the address will work. Try: http://jeanmaryeke.com Alice in Oregon - Original Message - However, I have posted , on my website, a very few bobbins which may be of interest to you. Go to http:// jeanmaryeke.com scroll down the first page to about the middle and click on the spider's web. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [lace] bobbins... and now, teaching?
I bought the dowel and some long wooden beads years ago with the intent of using it to make long bobbins for doing yarn lace. It is on my someday list. Teaching - well my guild is having it's third class this year for beginners in November and without any advertising we already have 9 people on the list! The first class earlier in the year was a success with some new members and the followup continuing class also included 5 new beginners, 4 of which joined the guild. Now we have decided to offer a class on a special day rather than eat into our guild meeting days. I came up with a new simple pattern this time that should be able to be completed easily in the 4 hours this class will have, and that will include them doing some winding of bobbins and pricking the pattern. Our guild members help out by sitting alongside the newbies, one-on-one if possible, and this takes the burden off the person running the class of being everywhere all at the same time. I am concerned that if we keep growing at this rate, we will outgrow our meeting room which is very convenient and economical for us at present. I developed an easy bookmark pattern, just uploaded it to the second page of my arachne webshots album: http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/album/149126673AmIpMo?start=0 If anyone wants a to proof read my class notes and get the pattern, email me. The piece uses 7 pairs of bobbins and 35/2 linen thread. Janice Janice Blair Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA www.jblace.com http://www.lacemakersofillinois.org - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [lace] bobbins... and now, teaching?
Thank you to Karen in Malta for the grammatical corrections, and to my friend Brenda who worked it up from the directions and had no problem. The heart bookmark pattern is useable now and available if you email me off list. Janice Janice Blair Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA www.jblace.com http://www.lacemakersofillinois.org - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
Re: Subject: Re: [lace] bobbins... and now, teaching?
On Sep 27, 2010, at 8:22 PM, Janice Blair wrote: The heart bookmark pattern is useable now and available if you email me off list. Call it Key To My Heart :) -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
RE: [lace] bobbins
I too made a set of pony bead bobbins when I started - I was able to buy glass pony/jug beads through eBay, including some heart shaped ones to put at the bottom of each bobbin. Finding suitable size wood was the hardest bit, until I found a Remote Control hobby shop - the sort that sells the thin balsa wood for making model planes, and they had a very fine dowel in hardwood which was ideal. Noelene in Cooma nlaffe...@ozemail.com.au - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
Re: [lace] bobbins... and now, teaching?
When I first started making lace in the late '90s, I was able to borrow, from my guild, two or three dozen very plain bobbins, spangled with very plain beads as well as a pillow and cover cloths and pins... for up to three months in order to determine whether I would be interested in continuing. Needless to say, I was very interested! My guild then directed me to numerous websites and vendors where I could purchase the supplies I needed. I started out with two or three dozen plain bobbins of my own, and at my very first lace day bought a dozen pretty bobbins. I fell in love with spangling. I joined a bobbin-a-month club with Maureen Benda - and she introduced me to lots and lots of wonderful bobbin-makers from all over the world. Within the first year, I had enough pretty bobbins to work the nice English laces I was making at the time. Since then, many of my favorite bobbin-makers have retired. Many of my favorite vendors (including Maureen) have moved on to other pursuits, or have retired. I have two of Richard Worthen's bobbin display domes which contain some of my favorite painted wood bobbins, and my favorites from my collection of Archer bone bobbins. These occupy places of honor in my house! The first bobbins I bought - two or three dozen plain - were spangled with interesting beads. I had no qualms about cutting spangles off of a plain bobbin to put on a more luxurious bobbin... but I always replaced the spangle on the plain bobbins with something. These plain bobbins have been loaned out so many times that I can't count. Sadly, the success rate has not been tremendous. People learn, through using decent tools on a decent pillow, whether or not they want to pursue bobbin lacemaking. Some have, but more have not. I recognize that we are a rare breed! ; ) The true measure of success in teaching new lacemakers is to have the equipment they need readily available for a reasonable length of time, and most importantly, to have a good teacher who is willing to devote the time and energy needed to get newcomers started. Unfortunately, in my experience, the lack of teachers is the primary reason our magical art is seeing a decline in new lacemakers. I acknowledge that I am not a teacher. I lack the patience and the ability to recognize the student's required learning mode, and thus follow it, and I remain focused on my own lacemaking, rather that focus on the growth of the art.And so... I am not criticizing anyone for not being a teacher. More to the point, I am criticizing people who *claim* to be teachers, but whose lack of the required characteristics make them teachers of beginners in name only... and this is where we're losing them. Having said all of this, perhaps now that I have studied with the masters (most recently, Anne-Marie Verbeke-Billiet), is it time for me to set aside my own self-centered interest in lace and offer to teach a newcomer? I recognize that this will be a gift to our art, and will require me to shift my perspective. Is anyone else interested in doing the same? We may need to support each other!! Clay On 9/26/2010 6:17 PM, Noelene Lafferty wrote: I too made a set of pony bead bobbins when I started - I was able to buy glass pony/jug beads through eBay, including some heart shaped ones to put at the bottom of each bobbin. Finding suitable size wood was the hardest bit, until I found a Remote Control hobby shop - the sort that sells the thin balsa wood for making model planes, and they had a very fine dowel in hardwood which was ideal. Noelene in Cooma nlaffe...@ozemail.com.au - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
[lace] Re lace bobbins
Bone bobbins are my favourite and I have managed to collect quite a few over the years and in all that time I have only ever broken one as a result of dropping it on my tiled kitchen floor. I have had wooden bobbins snap off at the neck too. My advise would be to collect the type of bobbin that really appeals to you. If you are just starting out collecting bobbins don't pay too much for them until you know exactly what it is you want. A lot of the pleasure in making lace for me is the look and the feel of the smooth bone bobbins in my fingers. Ann Yorkshire UK - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: lace Bobbins
On Jul 21, 2008, at 23:58, Elizabeth Ligeti wrote: I love the smooth silky feel of bone bobbins, - but can't afford them very often, unfortunately. Ditto on both -- I adore bone bobbins but can't really aford them. It's just as well that my favourite bobbin maker (Neil Keats, in Oz), who makes my special T-squares, doesn't work with bone; I'd be too broke to afford thread or pillows :) Bone bobbins are heavier than wood -- even ebony -- ones, so they tension better. But they're not as heavy as metal ones, so they don't break even very fine thread. They don't need varnish or laquer to finish -- they just get smoother and smoother as they age, without anything peeling off, getting sticky in humid climate or porous from excess hand perspiration. The sound of bone bobbins clicking is surpassed by that of glass ones but, somehow, bone bobbins feel more alive to touch, than glass ones ever do. So, if I had all of my d'ruthers, I'd rather have only bone bobbins to work with. But I'm happy enough with my wood ones, though I -- definitely -- have preferences as to which woods I like better than others. -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Bobbins bone/ivory
Many thanks to everyone who replied to my question on this topic. Fran - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Bobbins bone/ivory
Brian Lemin and David Springett are the authorities on lace bobbins. In his book Success to the Lace Pillow, David Springett says that he has never found an ivory bobbin, which would make sense because lacemakers wouldn't be able to afford ivory bobbins from the meagre amount they earned making lace. The bones of cattle would be used for making all sorts of things, and perhaps the bones of the house cow would be used like this when it died. Brian Lemin has written an interesting article on the Lacefairy site: http://bobbins.lacefairy.com/BobbinMuseum/WhatisIt.html and, among other informative things, says always assume bobbins and sewing tools are bone unless I have *very* good reason to believe otherwise You won't find modern elephant ivory bobbins in the UK because its use, sale and export is illegal unless it was hunted and collected before 1947. To sell ivory to another country from the UK, you must obtain an expprt license from Revenue and Customs and prove that it's pre1947. Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK - Original Message - From: John Fran To: Lace@arachne.com Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 9:01 AM Subject: [lace] Bobbins bone/ivory Does anyone know of a site where some ivory bobbins might be shown alongside bone bobbins? And does anyone know how to tell the difference between an ivory bobbin and a bone bobbin? I'm asking because this topic has come up in a genealogical mailing list for an area in Britain where lace makers were common in the 19th century. I would like to post relevant responses back to that list but, of course, would do so without any identifying information. Fran. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Bobbins bone/ivory
Hi Fran There is a bone bobbin and an ivory bobbin on my bobbin materials page http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/lace/bobbins/materials.html 2nd and 3rd pictures going down the page. It's impossible to tell just from pictures; Carole has already posted a few tests, but in practice the vast majority of lace bobbins were bone. Even in the days when no-one thought it wrong to kill elephants for their tusks ivory was a rare and expensive material but pig, cow and horse bones were readily available. Lacemaking was a cottage industry, undertaken mostly by women, whose husbands were Ag Labs and they just didn't have the money for ivory. They used whatever was around - bone or fruit woods. Brenda Does anyone know of a site where some ivory bobbins might be shown alongside bone bobbins? And does anyone know how to tell the difference between an ivory bobbin and a bone bobbin? I'm asking because this topic has come up in a genealogical mailing list for an area in Britain where lace makers were common in the 19th century. I would like to post relevant responses back to that list but, of course, would do so without any identifying information. Brenda in Allhallows, Kent http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/index.html - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] bobbins tied or wound loose`
I tie mine on after a hard lesson: I wound up 200 pair for a project and head a knock on the door. It was my downstairs neighbor. She was having a miscarriage and could I take her to the ER. Of course, I was out the door before the words were totally out of her mouth. Didn't even bother to turn off the lights. They managed to stop her labor and saved the baby (a really cute little girl born 3 months later!) I got home to a surprise. While I had been gone Alanna (my cat) had just a WONDERFUL time!! She had pulled every single bobbin down off the rack and had played with them. There was a blizzard of white thread all over my apartment. By not tying on the bobbins it was even more fun trying to locate where she had taken the bobbins off to. I never did find all of them. NOW I have them tied on and when one of the cats pulls a stunt like that I can follow the thread to the bobbin. Shere'e Seattle, WA USA -- www.webeweddings.com Unique Weddings for Unique Couples - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] bobbins tied or wound loose`
Thank you all for explaining why you tie your thread to the bobbins - I don't, but at least now I will remember *why* it is a good idea and will only have myself to blame if I lose a bobbin because of it not being tied. It also gives me a reason to be more patient with another lacemaker who is pedantic about it MUST be done this way but can never explain WHY! Jenny Brandis Kununurra, Western Australia [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.brandis.com.au/craft/lace/index.html - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] bobbins tied or wound loose`
One time, atleast 100 years ago (G), Gertrude Biedermann told me that the more knots you tie, the more you have to untie...so I only tie when I am leaving home! Smiles BarbE - Original Message - From: Jenny Brandis To: lace@arachne.com Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 4:33 PM Subject: Re: [lace] bobbins tied or wound loose` Thank you all for explaining why you tie your thread to the bobbins - I don't, but at least now I will remember *why* it is a good idea and will only have myself to blame if I lose a bobbin because of it not being tied. It also gives me a reason to be more patient with another lacemaker who is pedantic about it MUST be done this way but can never explain WHY! Jenny Brandis Kununurra, Western Australia [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.brandis.com.au/craft/lace/index.html - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.13/1074 - Release Date: 10/16/2007 2:14 PM - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] bobbins tied or wound loose` (Shuttles)
Hi Lacer, I have to jump in here...which you don't find me doing, but just can't resist having a good laugh all over again. I know this is about a tatting shuttle and not a bobbin, but sorta on subject. Several years ago, I found myself dropping my tatting shuttle (silver) down the wood floor of Fort Calhoun ,on the outside of a re-enact cabin. As I pulled on the thread I kept saying to myself, did I or didn't I tie a knotWith a fully wound bobbin and having a pile of thread next to the hole and completely unaware of anything going on around me! Just intense on retreaving my shuttle...I get to the end of the thread and yes I had tied the thread, Yep Pee ! Problem was the shuttle kept swinging crosswise to the crack! Frustrated, I suddenly realized I had a large audience watching me! I also noticed a little boy chewing gum...you guessed it.. I talked him out of his gum for a lolli pop! I put the gum on the end of a pencil and... Wall'La onto the shuttle it stuck and I brought it up and out ! The crowd clapped and I cheered to think there is still sticky gum out there! Another time I was at a lake, sitting out in the middle of the water in a gazebo, I dropped it through the slats, again did I or didn't I tie the thread...I had this time a Golden Lab that came from who knows where, he had his eye and head right down there with mine! Watching every move I made. As the thread would bring the shuttle up out of the water, only to fall back down as it would unwind, and this time I had not tied the shuttle! But because it was a light plastic..:) Iwas able to run and follow that shuttle as it floated to shore! Only to find myself having to fight with the dog, :} who decided it was his! I did get it back..I'm very hard headed. :0) I won! Morral to this story...I always take the time now! Even with my bobbins.. Cher Papillion,Ne - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] bobbins
SMP Lace at: http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/smplace/ have basic bulk bobbins at 50 for £15. He mails things very quickly and takes credit cards. Strictly a very satisfied customer. Malvary in Ottawa (the Nation's Capital), Canada - Original Message - From: Lynn Weasenforth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Lace Lace@arachne.com Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2006 7:20 PM Subject: [lace] bobbins Gentle Spiders, Hello all, my sweet hubby has informed me that I can have what I want for Christmas, it will be the first of January but that is fine with me. What I would like to know is, are there any places on the internet that have bobbins that if you buy in bulk they are less expensive. I figure maybe around 50 of them to start with if the price is right as far as he is concerned. I thought I saw some for around 70 cents a piece but don't know where it was at. Thank you for any help. Lynn - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] bobbins
Lynn I guess we can advise you best if you tell us what sort of bobbins you are looking for - Honiton, Midlands, continental, square etc and if you have a preference for wood, plastic or bone. Sue Gentle Spiders, Hello all, my sweet hubby has informed me that I can have what I want for Christmas, it will be the first of January but that is fine with me. What I would like to know is, are there any places on the internet that have bobbins that if you buy in bulk they are less expensive. I figure maybe around 50 of them to start with if the price is right as far as he is concerned. I thought I saw some for around 70 cents a piece but don't know where it was at. Thank you for any help. Lynn - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] bobbins on ebay
And 39 of them are described as bone/ivory. I've just got home from Upchurch lace Day where David Springett was the speaker and he said that in all of his experience he's only seen ONE antique bobbin that was made of ivory! Maybe that's why they are attracting such a nice price. Looks like a genuine collection of old bobbins but nothing spectacular. Pity the photos were taken at such an acute angle - impossible to see exactly what's in the lot, but an average of more than 10 GBP per bobbin does seem a bit steep. A VERY RARE CHANCE TO BUY A LARGE COLLECTION OF ANTIQUE LACE BOBBINS TO INCLUDE 39 BONE / IVORY EXAMPLES ALL WITH THERE BEADS AND 56 TREEN EXAMPLES ALSO WITH ALL THERE BEADS PLEASE DO NOT NOT TO MANY QUESTIONS REGARD TO THIS LOT MY KNOWLEDGE IS LIMITED ALL I CAN SAY THERE ARE FROM A GENUINE HOUSE CLEARANCE AND TOTALLY GENUINE VERY RARE CHANCE. Brenda On 13 May 2006, at 14:24, Whitham wrote: Hi everybody, Here's a nice collection of bobbins on ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/LARGE-19thc-COLLECTION-TREEN-BONE-IVORY-LACE- BOBBINS_W0QQ itemZ8283767587QQcategoryZ112535QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Item # 8283767587 They are going for a nice price, Irene Surrey, BC - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brenda http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] bobbins on e-bay
Malvary wrote: Do you think these are genuinely old? The colour is very green and the lettering in orange and yellow. Are they new ones made to look old, or old ones made to be more eye-catching. The others listed by the same seller are perhaps suspicious too - long names with the letters alternately coloured. http://cgi.ebay.ca/ANTIQUE-NAMED-LACE-BOBBIN-SUSAN-19TH-CENTURY_W0QQitemZ8243 409794QQcategoryZ19158QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem http://cgi.ebay.ca/ANTIQUE-NAMED-LACE-BOBBIN-FANNY-19TH-CENTURY_W0QQitemZ8243 417345QQcategoryZ19158QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Oh no! They are old, but the 'Susan' one has recently been painted green, with the bits around the name left blank. The 'Fanny' one has been painted and the letters painted over. The bands appear to have been 'enhanced' as well. Both completely wrecked. They wouldn't have been like that originally. Old stained bobbins are *usually* red or green, and the parts that would be handled and exposed to the air would be faded. Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] bobbins on e-bay
Why do I get the message that these items have been romoved by e-bay? There follows many warnings... Betty Ann in Roanoke, Virginia USA http://cgi.ebay.ca/ANTIQUE-NAMED-LACE-BOBBIN-SUSAN-19TH-CENTURY_W0QQitemZ8243 409794QQcategoryZ19158QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem http://cgi.ebay.ca/ANTIQUE-NAMED-LACE-BOBBIN-FANNY-19TH-CENTURY_W0QQitemZ8243 417345QQcategoryZ19158QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] bobbins on e-bay
Betty Ann wrote: You get the message because only the part of the address is underlined or the address is on two lines. Only the underlined bit on the first line, or the underlined bit if part isn't underlined, registers with ebay when you click on it. You have to either paste the missing bit onto the end, or search for the item number (8243409794 for the 'susan' bobbin). http://cgi.ebay.ca/ANTIQUE-NAMED-LACE-BOBBIN-SUSAN-19TH-CENTURY_W0QQitemZ8243409794QQcategoryZ19158QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK - Original Message - From: CLIVE Rice [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Lace lace@arachne.com Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 10:23 PM Subject: Re: [lace] bobbins on e-bay Why do I get the message that these items have been romoved by e-bay? There follows many warnings... Betty Ann in Roanoke, Virginia USA http://cgi.ebay.ca/ANTIQUE-NAMED-LACE-BOBBIN-FANNY-19TH-CENTURY_W0QQitemZ8243 417345QQcategoryZ19158QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re Lace bobbins in Radio Times
apparently the honiton bobbins needed to pass through the fabric! jenny barron Well I would have liked to see that. ;-) Shirley in Corio Oz. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Bobbins, and other things.
Another point to consider: I don't think cling wrapping is available in all airports. So you might be able to use it coming, but that doesn't mean you'll be able to get it on the return trip. Robin P. Los Angeles, California, USA (formerly Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Lorri Ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] I used it on a bag when returning from OIDFA last summer. The bag had loose carrying straps and I thought it might get caught in equipment. It wasn't opened. I also saw the check in counter require a man with a backpack get it wrapped. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Air Security: was: Re: [lace] Bobbins, and other things.
Moved to Chat because my response is very off-topic: At 07:13 PM 4/28/05 -0700, Barbara Joyce wrote: I really hate what the terrorists have done to us. :-( All the terrorists did was wave blankets at us. We jumped over the cliff entirely on our own. At 06:31 AM 4/29/05 -0400, Laurie Hughes wrote: I just take most valuables with me on the plane in carry-on. But then security will steal and destroy it on suspicion of it looking something like something that could conceivably be used as a weapon. Sigh. For me, not flying in the U.S. means not flying. At the moment, by good luck, I don't want to go anywhere I can't get to by car. (But we're starting to have safety check points.) -- Joy Beeson, resident curmudgeon To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Bobbins, and other things.
Liz, Regarding securing suitcases when flying, it is not possible to do that in the US. After 9/11, our security procedures have become quite rigid and severe. The Transportation Security Administration (TSA) has the right to open and search any/every bag that is checked, and likewise they can examine the contents of any carry-on bag that you have with you. I'm pretty sure they check bags coming in from other countries before they go onto domestic flights. My husband was randomly selected to have his carry-on bag inspected, and I can tell you they took out every single thing, unzipped every pouch, looked in every container. Last time I flew to Denver (from Seattle--our son lives there), I found a printed note from TSA informing me that they'd opened my suitcase and inspected the contents. Again, I assume this was random, since there was nothing in the suitcase that should have triggered their concern. While we're on the subject, that's why I use big zipper plastic bags when I pack. For example, all my underwear goes in a zipper bag. At least in theory, when they get that far, they don't open the bag since it's transparent and they can see what's inside. They wear rubber gloves, but I still don't like the idea that they're handling my personal items! Smokers, take note. Very recently a new rule went into effect banning all cigarette lighters from carry-on bags (they've been banned on checked luggage for a long time, as have matches). You can take three (I think that's the correct number) books of matches on the plane with you. Lighters in carry-ons can be returned to your car or given to someone who is not traveling, or else they will be confiscated. I really hate what the terrorists have done to us. :-( Barbara Joyce Snoqualmie, WA USA I have a bobbin that says A Creative Mess is better than tidy Idleness!! I just Had to have that one!! (I must be Very creative!!! :)) ) A lot of you travel around and fly hither and thither. Have any of you used the system of wrapping your cases in Cling Film that is now on offer at airports, to secure your cases against tampering, etc.? We are considering it for our travels to USA in July. An Aussie girl is on trial for her life in Indonesia, charged with importing a large amount of drugs in a surf board bag, but she claims it was put there by someone after she handed in her luggage. We, and most Aussies, feel she is an innocent victim, after hearing stories of other travellers, and we are getting a bit jumpy!! We are anxious to hear if anyone else has used this service, at an airport, and if they had any problems with customs wanting to open all their cases that had the wrap put around it. Thanks, Regards from Liz in Melbourne [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Bobbins, and other things.
From: Barbara Joyce [EMAIL PROTECTED] Regarding securing suitcases when flying, it is not possible to do that in the US. After 9/11, our security procedures have become quite rigid and severe. The Transportation Security Administration (TSA) has the right to open and search any/every bag that is checked, and likewise they can examine the contents of any carry-on bag that you have with you. There are two ways to secure your bags. You can use twist-ties that come with plastic bags. If you do, the TSA will replace them if/when they inspect the bag. OF course, anybody else can also open these, but at least it keeps zippers from opening accidently and spilling your undies across the baggage carousel (that happened to someone). After all, only another lacemaker would covet bobbins or pillow, and we're both scarce and sweet (mostly, anyway :) ). The other, more truly secure, way is with certain TSA-approved locks. These are sold at Brookstone and luggage stores. They are combination locks and you get to set the combination, but they also open with a key that (supposedly) only TSA staff have. So TSA can open and inspect the bag, but (supposedly) nobody else can. I haven't heard about using cling wrap. I'm not sure TSA staff would bother to try to keep it neat enough to put it back if they opened the bag, but that's just my speculation. Robin P. Los Angeles, California, USA (formerly Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Bobbins for sewings/Swiss stamp raffle reminder
Although I seldom disagree with Tamara, the relatively new International Square bobbin is every bit as wonderful as her custom made. Truth be told, they are a tad longer (no problem), have a double head, and no fiddley turnings to get in the way. I'm sure if these had been around when T was looking for the perfect bobbin for her lace, this would have been her choice. And for the rest of us mortals, who don't have access to custom-made, they're ideal!! Naturally, I had already spent a small fortune on another type bobbin by the time I discovered these (I think they're a fairly new addition to the line-up). And since then, I've moved on to Binche, so it's a moot point now. Clay Clay Blackwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Original Message] From: Tamara P. Duvall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lace Arachne lace@arachne.com Date: 2/24/2005 11:04:53 PM Subject: [lace] Bobbins for sewings/Swiss stamp raffle reminder I'm beginning to pay attention to business as usual again; it's as if *I* were recovering from a grave illness :) On Feb 24, 2005, at 16:47, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Debbie) wrote: it would be even better to have bobbins without turned decorations; just a smooth, smooth finish! No kidding... :) The smooth *head* is important in all laces, and we all know that - however coarse it might be, you don't want the thread, passing from the neck to the lace, to be rubbing against chips in the head. And, as the thread gets finer, even the pores in the wood may become a problem, so you want wood that's as dense as possible (if you can't afford ebony, olive is fantastic g). But the smooth *tail* is also important to all laces - not just Honiton - which require frequent sewings... Yes, I know that there are people who make Milanese with Midlands and don't mind passing the spangle through the hooked loop. Well, ... Obviously, the greatest danger spot in sewings is in passing your tool (whatever it is you're using; I favour a fine crochet hook, but I don't make either Honiton or Withof, for which no crochet hook is fine enough) into and under a bar, hooking a thread - without splitting it into its component plies - and pulling it up far enough to pass the other bobbin through the resulting loop. But there are minor concerns which ought to be considered also. Even if your bobbin's head is glass-smooth... Even if you grab your entire thread on your first try, without spliting it... When you pull a loop up through a pinhole, there's friction - against the thread on the sides of the pinhole - on the thread being pulled. To pass a Midlands spangle in comfort, you need to pull a loop that's about an inch long. That's about 2 inches of thread that's being weakened in the process. Unless your thread is very coarse indeed and/or unless you're not going to use the same pair for a sewing any time soon, it'll take a long time to get rid of 2 inches of weaker thread. To pass most Continental bobbins (the old Danish bobbins, with a big and decorated bulb at the bottom are an exception), the loop needs to be half as long *if* as much; to pass a Honiton bobbin, even smaller (quarter of an inch?)... Even apart from the time considerations (which do not apply to us, since we're amateurs and can afford to spend years perfecting a single bookmark g), the wear and tear on the thread (not to mention the nerves, when your thread breaks and you have to deal with it) is much less, if you use an undecorated and unassuming bobbin... I use double-headed, square-bodied, tapered-tailed bobbins exclusively now, for all laces I make, not just the frequent-sewings ones; they're not to heavy even for organzine or Pipers 2/20 but will accomodate a decent amount of heavier threads as well. They require a 3/8 loop, ie 3/4 of thread to pass through. But I had to design them myself (with a bit of help of the maker, who designed a precision head to die for g)... I look at the majority of square bobbins available on the market and shudder - they're carved to within an inch of their life, for pretty. T o me, they look like some Victorian nightmare vision of Middle Ages design, with lots and lots of traps for the unwary thread... They may only be 3/8 at their widest point, like mine, but I sure as sure would not risk putting them through a 3/8 high loop :) /// Re the embroidered Swiss stamp raffle: just to remind you that it's open, and that I'll be collecting entries till Monday Feb 28, announcing the winner (alas, one only) on Tues, March 1. So far, there are only 27 entries; I think people were distracted from signing up, by my panicky messages about Vlad. You can see the stamp at: http://www.t-n-lace.net/Swiss%20stamp.jpg Apparently, I *was* able to upload it - though not quite the way I'd hoped to g - and DS found it for me in the puter's guts. I still don't know where it's at (regarding the
Re: [lace] Bobbins for Withof
On Sun, 5 Dec 2004 07:04:11 +1100, Noelene wrote: I intend doing a workshop in Withof early next year, and am curious to know what is the best shape of bobbins for the project. I usually use spangled Midlands, but I read I will need unspangled bobbins and want to get my DH turning me some now. How many will I need? And do I need any special sort of pins? If you happen to have them on hand, it is quite feasible to use unspangled Midlands to try out Withof, to see whether you like it before investing in a new style of bobbin. OTOH if you want to try some different bobbins, then I suggest Binche bobbins. Mine are light enough to use with the finest threads, but have enough head space to use with even a size 30 cotton, as I'm doing at the moment for Milanese. Anneke suggested: you can find pictures of suitable bobbins on www.brejaart.com I use bobbins nr 24 (30 and 32 are similar). Good bobbins for Withof are also 39 (40) and 44 and 45. The ones I use are like 44 and 45. I have used them for Binche, Flanders, Milanese and Withof quite happily. The little bump on the bottom makes them easier to put through a loop than a bobbin with a plain end. Yvonne Scheele-Kerkhof says that the wood should be at least the density of cocobolo to get sufficient tension; she thinks that some of the least dense woods result in bobbins that are too light. Start with the pins that you already have for the size of thread you will be using. Different people do Withof in quite a variation of thread sizes, so you need to find out what you like before investing in different pins. The ideal Withof pins have small heads, are short and resist bending when pushed in fully. I started with size 80 cotton, but have now moved to 100. I have used up to 25 pairs, but you probably won't need more than 20 to start. You can see the Great African Snail I designed and made in classes with Yvonne at: http://www.sandbenders.demon.co.uk/bobbinlace/images/Snail.jpg I call him the 500 pound snail, because that's about what I spent on courses and hotels over two years to make him. -- One of the serious obstacles to the improvement of our race is indiscriminate charity. - Andrew Carnegie Steph Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tatting, lace stitching page http://www.sandbenders.demon.co.uk/index.htm Scanned by WinProxy http://www.Ositis.com/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Bobbins for Withof
What beautiful lace! I especially like that flower with the half stitch petals. Is there a pattern for it? Sumac in southern Vermont slowly recovering from the dreaded flu! Susan G. MacLeodDummerston, VT USA NATA #69 new! www.sumac.us www.sover.net/~sumac - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Bobbins for Withof
Hi Noelene and all, You can find information about what materials you need for making Withof on page 6 of my first manual on Sluis and Wifhof Lace! But when you do not have the manuals: you can find pictures of suitable bobbins on www.brejaart.com I use bobbins nr 24 (30 and 32 are similar). Good bobbins for Withof are also 39 (40) and 44 and 45. Those are not too big, not too small and easy to make sewings with. The pillow you need is has to be flat and firm, but not too hard. A pillow with a O of 50 cm is best. Use short, thin pins with small heads. The special copper Duchesse pins are the best.. For sewing use a needlepin, with a slightly curved end. No crochet hook! Duchesse lace is mostly worked with cotton. Usually Egyptian cotton 80/2 to 170/2. Most laces in my manuals have been made with Egyptian cotton 120/2. The gimp should not be too thick: it is not allowed to attract too much attention. Depending on what thread you use for the lace, you can take for the gimp: Egyptian cotton 120/2, DMC cotton 50 - 70, Retors d'Alsace or Fredia linen 80/2. You do not need a pattern on carton with Withof. Paper with the pattern printed on it, covered with a piece of sticky transparant film goes well. Best works the matt, coloured transparant film. You can find more information about Withof and my manuals on http://home hetnet.nl/~aplag/ Anneke Reijs in Baexem, The Netherlands [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---Original Message--- From: W N Lafferty Date: 12/04/04 21:05:26 To: Lace Subject: [lace] Bobbins for Withof I intend doing a workshop in Withof early next year, and am curious to know what is the best shape of bobbins for the project. I usually use spangled Midlands, but I read I will need unspangled bobbins and want to get my DH turning me some now. How many will I need? And do I need any special sort of pins? Noelene in Cooma First heatwave, then cold spell, now back to normal early summer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~nlafferty/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Bobbins for Withof
What beautiful lace! I especially like that flower with the half stitch petals. Is there a pattern for it? Yes, in Withof Lace, the one that's out of print. It's on page 46. Keep in mind that in Withof there's no working diagram to follow, and no pinholes. You get a line drawing and you kind of do your own thing, placing the pins along the line, wherever you think they should go!. Very daunting at first, I might add! There are written instructions, however, to help you get the idea of how it's done. Barbara Joyce Snoqualmie, WA USA Sumac in southern Vermont slowly recovering from the dreaded flu! Susan G. MacLeodDummerston, VT USA NATA #69 new! www.sumac.us www.sover.net/~sumac - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Bobbins for Withof
Sorry, the line was broken up! Here is the good combination: http://home.hetnet.nl/~aplag/ anneke reijs in Baexem, The Netherlands [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---Original Message--- From: Ruth Rocker every combination of your URL I tried didn't work. Can you post it again so it hopefully all fits in one line? please Ruth in OK - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Bobbins for Withof
Withof is a beautiful lace. I hope you enjoy your workshop. :-) The good news is that you don't need many bobbins in Withof. Maybe 12-15 pairs should do. Spangled bobbins are a no-no, because of the many sewings involved in Withof, so you'll want a continental bobbin style. I used a slim Binche bobbin in the workshop I took, and they worked fine. You do want very short pins with small heads. For example, 17 x .45mm. These are available in either brass or steel. Most people prefer the brass pins as they're easier to see as you work. You'll also need a bent needlepin, which is used for sewings (not a crochet hook). I reallly thought I'd have trouble with that tool, but once you see the proper technique demonstrated, it's not that hard to master. If you would like to see some pictures to whet your appetite, please look on my web site: http://homepage.mac.com/bejoyce/withof Enjoy! Who will be teaching your workshop? If you don't already have a reference or two, you might want to pick up a copy of 50 Dutch Bobbin Lace Patterns by Yvonne Scheele-Kerkhof, which is still in print (I believe), and/or a used copy of Withof Lace (three authors), which is out of print. Yvonne indicated in our class that Withof Lace is the better place to start, if one can obtain a copy. Hope this helps, Barbara Joyce Snoqualmie, WA USA I intend doing a workshop in Withof early next year, and am curious to know what is the best shape of bobbins for the project. I usually use spangled Midlands, but I read I will need unspangled bobbins and want to get my DH turning me some now. How many will I need? And do I need any special sort of pins? Noelene in Cooma First heatwave, then cold spell, now back to normal early summer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~nlafferty/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: lace bobbins Australian dig site
Dear Brian, My DH is digging up yard at Rose St., Chippendale for building on, he has found bits of pottery, glass tiles etc.. shall I get him to dig deeper to find some bobbins?? Barbara, Parkes, Australia.. where the current dust storms and locust plague are preventing one uncovering the lace pillows!! - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Bobbins question
On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 11:37:16 -0800, you wrote: wonder if I have the right kind of paints. What does everyone uses to paint their bobbins? I also bought some water soluble outdoor gloss sealer that I thought I could put on after the paint dries. Have I just bought a bunch of great paints to pass along to friend's little kids or are these suitable for using on my bobbins? Hi Darlene - well you've made the right first step by buying unpolished bobbins to paint. Many lacemakers make the mistake of trying to paint polished ones and wonder why it doesn't work. I use artists acrylic paint (in tubes) which isn't expensive and a little goes a long way. You can control the consistency and the colours are intense and vibrant. They are quick drying, don't smell, and I love the way I can layer the colours. I prefer non-sable paintbrushes - the nylon or man-made ones are better for painting on wood, and I use 5 zero and 4 zero. I coat them when dry ( 3 coats) with a plastic coating for wood, which you can usually get at a hardware shop, but polyurethane varnish will do as well - it just takes longer to dry between coats, and I need speed. The plastic coating can be re-coated in 30 mins. The brand I use is by Rustins and they have a web page: http://www.rustins.co.uk When I tried a water-soluble varnish on the paint it made all the colours run, so not very useful. BTW - I never varnish the necks of the bobbins - it makes them too slippy for thread, and gives me something to hold when I varnish them. My DH has made me a long wooden rack, raised at one end, with holes drilled into it, to hold them whilst drying - it makes my job a whole lot easier. Good luck. ttfn Jacqui Jacqui Southworth, Fleetwood, Lancs, England [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Larkholme Lace - Bobbin Lace Supplies, painted bobbins and tools,books www.larkholmelace.co.uk *** NEW - Christmas 2003 bobbins *** - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Bobbins question - Decorating bobbins
In a message dated 11/22/03 9:07:21 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I bought [among other things] some fancy Midlands unfinished bobbins. I figured getting them spangled would be easy enough but now I need to finish them first. I bought some water soluble acrylic paint with mixable colours by FolkArt. I have tested the paints on a few pairs but then started to wonder if I have the right kind of paints. What does everyone uses to paint their bobbins? I also bought some water soluble outdoor gloss sealer that I thought I could put on after the paint dries. --- Dear Lacemakers and Darlene, This is a wonderful fun activity for a local lace guild program - ask your Program Chairman! You might like to add decoupage instructions, if you have a program. Before the bobbins are painted you can learn how to wrap the bobbins with lovely photos from flower seed, fashion, and museum catalogs, or gift wrapping paper. Designs need to be appropriate for a tiny surface, so there will be a fairly nice join where the wrap meets. Paper needs to be light weight and capable of holding glue. (Heavy glossy paper stock that you receive from fancy store catalogs will not hold glue.) Then, you mix a small amount of paint to match the decoupage, and paint the exposed portion of each bobbin. You can make singles, pairs, or an entire set of theme-based bobbins. This topic was extensively discussed on Arachne a couple years ago, with contributions from various countries. I am purposely not writing further instructions. Several other people on Arachne will want to chip in with their experience. The slippery neck problem already mentioned can be corrected by using a small piece of fine steel wool to rough up the protective finish on the neck of a bobbin. No need to avoid painting and applying a protective finish to the entire bobbin. Darlene, the product used on my (at least 12 years old) bobbins was Minwax Ultra Fast Drying Polycrylic Protective Finish - Clear Gloss. Available in the U.S., and probably in Canada where you live. Other products will do as well. Compare labels to learn what the products promise. At the least, I would suggest you pair up with someone for a fun day. That way, you can share the expense of supplies, and bounce creative ideas off one another. Jeri Ames in Maine USA Lace and Embroidery Resource Center - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]