Re: [lace] Bobbins holder?

2018-06-07 Thread Jocelyn Froese
Hi Helen and everyone, 
That looks like a stand that would work. An easy way to keep count of the pairs 
wound as well.
They also have half day workshops for woodturning using a lathe. It may be a 
start for anyone interested in exploring the techniques used to create bobbins. 
On my someday list. Thanks for the reminder. 

Jocelyn in Winnipeg, enjoying the summer in Central Canada

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> On Jun 7, 2018, at 10:31 PM, Helen Clarke  wrote:
> 
> This seems ideal for those who travel and like to have their pairs of bobbins 
> hanging ready. 
> 
> http://www.leevalley.com/en/garden/page.aspx?p=76776=52=1
> 
> Regards, Helen on the west coast of mainland Canada. 
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RE: [lace] bobbins

2014-08-13 Thread Agnes Boddington
I believe number 4 is indeed a Springett bobbin, tail and head are very typical 
of David's bobbins.
This is what Wikipedia says about Horn: A horn is a pointed projection of skin 
on the head of various animals consisting of a covering of keratin and other 
proteins surrounding a core of live bone. 
It is flexible to some extent, and  may therefore distort over time.
Agnes Boddington - Elloughton UK

Hello All!  My bobbin pics are posted.  Can anyone share additional info?  The 
first is the Arachne bobbin with spider bead spangle.  Next is Stephen Pierce 
(Pearce?).  Next is The Lace Hall Nottingham with a terrific painted cat  
spangles.  The last looks like Tonder gimp fingers  may be Springett?  I also 
posted a pic of some horn bobbins for Brian.  They are not old but quite 
pretty.  I've not used them much because they become semi-flexible when handled 
frequently.  Not sure I understand why--perhaps they should have been 
treated/coated with varnish??  Any thoughts?  Many thanks.  Sincerely, Susan 
Hottle, Erie, PA USA

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[lace] RE: lace bobbins

2014-08-13 Thread Louise Bailey
Susan

The second one is not a Stephen Pearce  the tail shape is quite different - 
here a link to  a picture of one of his:

http://web.archive.org/web/20030804042826/http://homepages.tesco.net/~stephen.pearce/

I can't quite tell from the picture - is there a little groove round the top of 
the head? if so it might be  one of Geoff Mudge's he doesn't have a website. 
I'll have a better look when I get home and can compare to mine.

Louise

In distinctly autumnal feeling Cambridge

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RE: [lace] bobbins

2014-08-13 Thread Jay Ekers
The Arachne bobbin was to celebrate the 1st anniversary in 1996.
I have a pair, one dark blue the other light blue (now slightly greenish with 
age).
They were from England.
Possibly Margaret Hall?  We have had a few new computers since then and the old 
information is lost. 

Jay in Sydney

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Subject: [lace] bobbins

Hello All!  My bobbin pics are posted.  Can anyone share additional info?  The 
first is the Arachne bobbin with spider bead spangle.  
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Re: [lace] bobbins

2014-07-29 Thread J D Hammett

Dear Alex  fellow Arachnids,

Alex you hit the nail on the head. Use the bobbins you are comfortable with 
but also; use them with the pillow you feel comfortable with using. Spangled 
midlands bobbins can be used on a flat pillow as well as continentals and 
continentals can be used on a slightly domed pillow. There are just a couple 
of provisos; Honiton bobbins work better on a domed pillow as they are very 
lightweight and on travelpillows one works more easily with the slightly 
shorter bobbins whether they be spangled midlands travellers or the shorter 
continentals.


Happy lace making, Joepie, East Sussex, UK were the sun is shining but it is 
a little cooler than the last week has been.




-Original Message- 
From: Alex Stillwell



Many years ago I taught an introduction to Valenciennes lace ...

My personal advice is use the bobbins you are comfortable with, no 
matter what

the type of lace, and use the correct pillow with them. .

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[lace] Re: Lace Bobbins

2013-12-31 Thread Robin D
Could these be part of a game? - YES!  they are more likely Mahjong
counters than they are lace making bobbins.  The Chinese didn't make
lace...they did amazing embroidery.

As someone pointed out there is fabric or cord in some of the holes.  I'd
think they were beads attached to a bit of clothing or on strings used for
hair decorations before I'd think they were anything else.

Also, if that part of the ID is off they may not even bee Chinese in
origin.

-- 
Never, ever, let anyone tell you what you can and can't do. Prove the
cynics wrong. Pity them for they have no imagination.
The sky's the limit. *Your* sky. *Your *limit.   Now, let's dance.  *~Tom
Hiddleston*

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Re: [lace] bobbins with peeps

2013-04-26 Thread John Mead
The only thing I've found about stanhopes and bobbins is the following
thread here at Arachne:
http://www.mail-archive.com/lace@arachne.com/msg12148.html

Yours,

John Mead, in Tacoma, WA where the weather is lovely

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Re: [lace] Bobbins with Stanhopes

2013-04-26 Thread Jeriames
In my collection of lace and embroidery tools are 2 antique needle cases  
containing Stanhopes.  One has an early photo of Jerusalem, and was  
purchased over 20 years ago at an antiques show.  The other  was purchased in 
February from a Maine antiques dealer.  It  contains two early views of  
Niagara 
Falls.  The Stanhope part is  inserted in a hole bored through the end of the 
needle case.  Think of the  hole you drill in bobbins meant for spangling, 
but large enough to hold the  tiny magnifying glass inserts in which a 
picture can be seen.  
 
These needle cases are carved scrimshaw whalebone items.  The  external 
appearance is like hollow Mother and Babe bone bobbins,   but larger in 
diameter and 5 inches in length.  The open carved  windows are similar.  There 
are 
screw-on tops, to keep  needles inside.  This was a way to secure larger 
sewing  needles that might damage pin cushions.  I suspect the carved openings  
were to keep air circulating at a time when needles were made of metals 
that  easily developed rust.
 
Are you thinking that new Stanhopes are being made?My needle cases are 
probably from the 1800's.
 
To find Stanhopes, I think there is a way to search on eBay by a  specific 
name.  If you Google, you should be able to find  pictures of Stanhopes 
inserted in various items and see how they were  used.  Books on needlework 
tools often show photos of these. 
 
Jeri Ames in  Maine USA
Lace and Embroidery Resource Center  
--
 
In a message dated 4/25/2013 10:50:27 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
ir_st_w...@shaw.ca writes:

Does  anyone know who supplies the bobbins with peeps?  I'm not sure if  I
have the right word but it a little thing that you look into that has  a
picture!  My group is interested in contacting a  supplier.

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Re: [lace] bobbins with peeps

2013-04-25 Thread J D Hammett

Hi Irene and fellow Arachnids,

I don't know if anyone supplies these but they are called Stanhopes after 
the fellow who invented them. Could you let us know if you find someone who 
deals in them, please?


Happy lace making,

Joepie, East Sussex, UK


-Original Message- 
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Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 3:49 AM
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Subject: [lace] bobbins with peeps

Hello all,



Does anyone know who supplies the bobbins with peeps?  I'm not sure if I
have the right word but it a little thing that you look into that has a
picture!



My group is interested in contacting a supplier.



Irene Whitham

Surrey, BC Canada

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Re: [lace] bobbins

2012-05-28 Thread Agnes Boddington

You mean all of them? Not sure how I would go about it.
Btw: I just checked, and I have 565 different ones, not 557.
Agnes Boddington



Agnes
It would be wonderful to post photographs of  those bobbins on the 
internet.

Hint hint.
Lorelei


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Re: [lace] bobbins

2012-05-28 Thread Lyn Bailey

That is for sure.  Lyn
Lorelei wrote:
Agnes
I was thinking, all of them.  I know it is wishful thinking.  But if you 
ever

get the urge, I think you would have a lot of viewers.
Lorelei

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Re: [lace] bobbins

2012-05-28 Thread Dmt11home
Lorelei wrote:
 
Agnes
I was thinking, all of them.  But I'm laughing because I understand what a
huge project that would be. I  know it is wishful thinking. But if you ever
get the urge, I think you would  have a lot of viewers.
Lorelei


Why don't you choose 5 bobbins that you consider to be very  interesting, 
or pretty, or important to you, take a photograph, and post the  photograph 
on the Ning site _http://laceioli.ning.com/_ (http://laceioli.ning.com/)  in 
the Tools  and Equipment discussion group where I have posted the pictures 
of my tiny  Valenciennes bobbins.
 
I am sure that Lorelei will help you post it if  necessary.
 
Devon 

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Re: [lace] bobbins and music

2011-10-04 Thread lbuyred
I have a small set of bamboo bobbins.  They make a delightful noise as I use 
them.  They were given to me by a friend.  Unfortunately I only have 12 bobbins 
so I can't use them very often.
Liz Redford
Raleigh, NC, USA
 Nancy Neff nnef...@yahoo.com wrote: 
 Has anyone else noticed a difference in tunings among sets
 of different kinds of bobbins?  Perhaps this is unique to Continental bobbins,
 since I'll bet that the different beads and types of decorations would make
 Midlands bobbins sound slightly different from each other.
  
 I'll be curious
 to to hear what you've heard...
  
 Nancy
 Connecticut, USA

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Re: [lace] bobbins and music

2011-10-04 Thread Witchy Woman

Lorelei wrote:
I've often thought of just hanging them up in a bunch giving them a whack 
as i

walk past, so I could hear all the tones.


A few years ago I bought a packet of unfinished wood Midlands bobbins.  I 
strung them on a piece of fishing line and hung them up so I could spray 
them with a clear finish.  The way they spiral and move, and the way they 
sound when they touch each other would make a great wind chime.  I bought 
two more packets recently with the idea of doing just that.  Will post a 
picture when I get around to making it.


Ithaca bound in 3 days.  Can't wait!  It's going to be beautiful weather for 
camping and lacemaking.


Peg
in Fairview Park OH, where it's a temperate 58F...and not raining...moon is 
shining brightly 


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Re: [lace] bobbins and music

2011-10-03 Thread Malvary Cole
I love the sound of my old little antique Bucks bobbins.  They are mostly 
made of fruit-woods.


When Jacquie and I were in Camariñas, Spain, in April people were very 
interested in watching her use her Midlands bobbins with all the spangles 
and (a little less so) interested in seeing my little Bucks bobbins which 
are just a little more than half the size of the Spanish bobbins.  We 
learned the words to explain what we were using.


Malvary in Ottawa where we have another grey day, but the temperature has 
gone up a few degrees now we have passed the weekend.  Supposed to be nice 
by the end of the week. 


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Re: [lace] bobbins and music

2011-10-03 Thread Ilske Thomsen
Nancy,
al my different bobbins, different in shape and in wood, make different sounds. 
Some more noisy others nearly silent, some more melodic others more unmusical.
And it depends how quick you work.

Ilske

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Re: [lace] bobbins and music

2011-10-02 Thread robinlace
 Nancy Neff nnef...@yahoo.com wrote: 
Has anyone else noticed a difference in tunings among sets of different kinds 
of bobbins?  Perhaps this is unique to Continental bobbins, since I'll bet that 
the different beads and types of decorations would make Midlands bobbins sound 
slightly different from each other.

Some Spanish bobbins are simple cylinders, I think out of olive wood.  They 
have a wonderfully rich sound.  They're the best-sounding wood bobbins I've 
found.  The sound makes up for the bland appearance.  Glass bobbins make a 
wonderful tinkling sound, like an old-fashioned wind chime.  I don't need a lot 
of them on a pillow, just a couple of pairs.  [I don't think I'd like constant 
tinkling.]  For anybody who has been afraid to use glass bobbins, go for it!  
They're usually made of Pyrex which is stronger than plain glass.  As long as 
you don't drop them on tile/concrete, or sit on them, they are really quite 
hardy.

Robin P.
Los Angeles, California, USA
robinl...@socal.rr.com

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Re: [lace] Bobbins with detachable heads

2011-02-27 Thread The Lace Bee
Right, as promised I rummaged through my boxes and found the bobbin with the
detachable head that I have and then spent another 20 minutes trying to find
the spool of thread that came with it.
 
I've done some shots of it and uploaded them to my website where I'm logging
all my bobbins.  It's on the unknown makers' page and you will need to scroll
down to the bottom of the page to find it.
 
http://thelacebee.weebly.com/unknown-makers.html
 
Because the shots came out rather well I've managed to enlarge the details
more than they are on the spool and did a quick search for the maker.  There
is a very small reference to it in google books and I've put the reference to
this as a link on the page.
 
I bought the bobbin from De Denne in Kenton, North West London - long gone
from the place it was as the bridge it was on over the railway has even gone
and been moved about 20 metres away.  Does anyone know what happened to the
shop?  There was a wonderful needlecraft shop in Pinner that also went about
the same time - c. 1993.

Kind Regards

Liz Baker

thelace...@btinternet.com

My chronicle of my bobbins can be found at my website:
http://thelacebee.weebly.com/

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From: The Lace Bee thelace...@btinternet.com
Subject: Re: [lace] Bobbins with detachable heads
To: lace@arachne.com, Brian Lemin brid...@bigpond.com
Date: Sunday, 20 February, 2011, 23:03


I'll have a rummage, at the weekend, and see if I can't find the spool and
the
bobbin.
 
L

Kind Regards

Liz Baker

thelace...@btinternet.com

http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003

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Re: [lace] Bobbins with detachable heads

2011-02-20 Thread The Lace Bee
I'll have a rummage, at the weekend, and see if I can't find the spool and the
bobbin.
 
L

Kind Regards

Liz Baker

thelace...@btinternet.com

My chronicle of my bobbins can be found at my website:
http://thelacebee.weebly.com/

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From: Brian Lemin brid...@bigpond.com
Subject: [lace] Bobbins with detachable heads
To: lace@arachne.com
Date: Sunday, 20 February, 2011, 22:12


Quite fascinating, especially to learn that they came with spools!

The style of bobbin is a well known style and I doubt if we pulled the heads
of these bobbins they would come apart!  I would suggest the detachable head
style was made for this system.

Thank you indeed for thinking about me.

Working on the Metropolitan Museum collection of bobbins at the moment (104
of
them) .  Most interesting.  Two of Gertrude Lawrence's illustrations are in
the original.  The fabulous spangle (Which I plan to write about) and the
Gorgous Italian glass bobbin.

If they will let me publish I might do a Bobbin Gems from the Met article.
Of the 104 probably say a dozen are of some merit.

I noticed two bugger bobbins amongst them.  I will need to tell you about
that type of bobbin another time.  It is a real thing but a fun thing!  :)

PS those who know me will know that I do not use the above B word in my
vocabulary!




Having fun!



Brian and Jean
From Cooranbong. Australia
You can read my bobbin stuff on:
http://tiny.cc/egb85

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Re: [lace] bobbins

2011-02-12 Thread bertrans1
Yes, this is the second time this has happened.  Maybe, there is somerthing 
wrong with her e-mail server.
Sallie
--Original Message--
From: Elizabeth Ligeti
Sender: owner-l...@arachne.com
To: arachne lacing
ReplyTo: Elizabeth Ligeti
Subject: [lace] bobbins
Sent: Feb 12, 2011 17:55

Thank you, Brian, for posting that Ebay number for the Abbott bobbins,. As
soon as I saw them I realized I had a similar one, - had a look for it, -
and Yes! I have one!!  So now I can add the makers name to it!! It is fairly
slim, and I see I have spangled it, so it came down from Grandma without its
original spangle. - Nevertheless, it works well!! - as do most of my old
bobbins.  I have one bone bobbin put away in the safe, as it has a damaged
head which snags threads,  but I use all the others.

 

 

On another question, - I have the Digest form of Lace, and I have started
getting messages (in this digest - 2 messages) that are total gobbledygook -
from

 helene3...@yahoo.com
Subject: [lace] OMG! did you block me on Yahoo?

 

Are others getting it like this too?   They scroll down quite a way, so take
up a lot of the digest. 

 

Regards from Liz in Melbourne, Oz

lizl...@bigpond.com

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Re: [lace] bobbins/weird message

2011-02-12 Thread bev walker
Hi everyone - not about bobbins, but the weird message is spam of some
kind. Delete it.
A shame it has to clutter the digests though :(

On 2/12/11, bertra...@gmail.com bertra...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yes, this is the second time this has happened. ...

  On another question, - I have the Digest form of Lace, and I have started
  getting messages (in this digest - 2 messages) that are total gobbledygook -

-- 
Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west
coast of Canada

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Re: [lace] bobbins

2011-02-12 Thread Diana Smith

Yes I've received two as well.

Diana in Northants

- Original Message - 
From: Elizabeth Ligeti lizl...@bigpond.com

To: lace@arachne.com
Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2011 11:55 PM
Subject: [lace] bobbins



Thank you, Brian, for posting that Ebay number for the Abbott bobbins,. As
soon as I saw them I realized I had a similar one, - had a look for it, -
and Yes! I have one!!  So now I can add the makers name to it!! It is 
fairly
slim, and I see I have spangled it, so it came down from Grandma without 
its

original spangle. - Nevertheless, it works well!! - as do most of my old
bobbins.  I have one bone bobbin put away in the safe, as it has a damaged
head which snags threads,  but I use all the others.





On another question, - I have the Digest form of Lace, and I have started
getting messages (in this digest - 2 messages) that are total 
gobbledygook -

from

helene3...@yahoo.com
Subject: [lace] OMG! did you block me on Yahoo?



Are others getting it like this too?   They scroll down quite a way, so 
take

up a lot of the digest.



Regards from Liz in Melbourne, Oz

lizl...@bigpond.com

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Re: [lace] Bobbins

2011-01-16 Thread David C COLLYER

Liz,

Brian, - I have an old bone bobbin with Pharaoh  engraved on it.  I have
always wondered the what, why, who's about it!!  It was one from my
family, - so Grandma's bobbin, or Great Grandmas, or..??


Surely it must be the name of a pet - cat or dog 
Or perhaps an ancient forebear - LOL
David in Ballarat

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Re: [lace] Bobbins

2011-01-16 Thread Diana Smith
'Pharaoh' would possibly fit into the religious or biblical category. Though 
I've seen them with King Pharaoh or Pharaoh King - which can be read either 
way but I would think probably the latter.


Diana in Northants where we have snowdrops coming through in the garden - 
Spring!?


- Original Message - 
From: Elizabeth Ligeti lizl...@bigpond.com

To: lace@arachne.com
Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2011 2:03 AM
Subject: [lace] Bobbins



Brian, - I have an old bone bobbin with Pharaoh  engraved on it.  I have
always wondered the what, why, who's about it!!  It was one from my
family, - so Grandma's bobbin, or Great Grandmas, or..??



Curious!!!



Re your kayaks - don't you live in the middle of NSW - quite a long way 
from

water?  (Just being cheeky! :-) )



Regards from Liz in Melbourne, Oz.

lizl...@bigpond.com

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Re: [lace] Bobbins

2011-01-16 Thread J-D Hammett

Hi,

Pharaoh could also be a card game which could be played with quite high 
stakes.


Joepie, Battle, East Sussex

-Original Message- 
From: David C COLLYER

Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2011 12:06 PM
To: Elizabeth Ligeti ; lace@arachne.com
Subject: Re: [lace] Bobbins

Liz,

Brian, - I have an old bone bobbin with Pharaoh  engraved on it.  I have
always wondered the what, why, who's about it!!  It was one from my
family, - so Grandma's bobbin, or Great Grandmas, or..??


Surely it must be the name of a pet - cat or dog 
Or perhaps an ancient forebear - LOL
David in Ballarat

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Re: [lace] RE: lace-bobbins and types

2010-12-15 Thread Laceandbits
Of course this all falls down when you consider Buck thumpers... 

Why?  Many of my South Bucks style bobbins are quite small and light in 
weight, much smaller than those often thought of as Thumpers, and of course 
none of them have the weight of a spangle.  Also, often the old spangles 
were much heavier than the modern ones, (and are usually changed when I buy 
old bobbins) so that would make the unspangled bobbins even lighter by 
comparison.

Before you all throw up your hands in horror, I buy bobbins to use, not to 
look at.  I don't believe that the spangle on the bobbin is very often 
likely to be the original one anyway, but I do keep the old beads separate from 
new ones and only use old beads on old bobbins; I mostly just need to make 
the spangle smaller to get a more functional spangle for my lacemaking style.  
 This has the added bonus of leaving beads over, so when I buy old bobbins 
which have lost their spangle, I have authentic beads to use.

To tie in with what Louise was saying, it is possible that one of the 
reasons why a some of the old bobbins have almost out of proportion heavy 
spangles (now, or since photography at least) was because the style/size of 
bobbins 
were originally used with finer thread, and the weight of the spangles were 
increased as the thread became thicker.  There seem to be too many with 
these big, clunky spangles for it to be just someone's taste; I feel there has 
to be a logical reason for it.  These were tools of the trade, not the 
fashion accessories our bobbins mostly are now.

But as for the modern bobbins being thinner than the old ones, I don't 
necessarily agree with that.  Many of my plain Old Maid wooden bobbins are 
very fine.  It may just be that over the years these bobbins have been more 
vulnerable to breakage and loss than their more sturdy companions.

Jacquie 
in a slightly foggy, cold, dank Stamford, just 50 or so miles up the A1 
from Louise in foggy cold dank Cambridge.

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[lace] Re: Lace bobbins and types

2010-12-10 Thread Tatman
I have a wide collection of spangled midlands(many of them painted by our
CelticDreamWeaver and I cherish them!) and continentals that I have
collected over the years.  True that the painted and decorated bobbins(both
midlands and continentals) do get a lot of my attention when lacing. But I
do concentrate more on what I am lacing then stopping to smell the
roses(bobbins).  If I stop it is more to situate my posture or see what I
missed on the tv or to get up and stretch or do something else. I am not one
to sit for hours and lace, unless I am at a demonstration.  Hence why not
much lace gets done!
 I tend to pick bobbins according to the project.  If it is a pattern that
has a lot of sewings then I don't typically pick spangled midlands.  I go
for the more pointed continentals.  4 special bobbins always make it to my
pillow.  They were turned by my lace teacher's husband and are exclusive to
her needs. They are continentals with a very pointed end for the purpose of
sewings and making tallies, but have a good weight to them.  Plus they
handle well and feel good in my hands.
That is another factor.  Does it feel good in my hands.  Working with the
bobbins and how they handle with my big hands is a major factor.  I have
worked with all types and found that the very large bulby type just fit and
toss about quite nicely with my fingers.  I do have trouble with skinny
spangled or skinny continentals.  Even the square bobbins tend to slip my
fingers and can be a frustration.  The bulby Belgium style or Danish or any
of the large bobbins work well with my hands and I can lace fairly fast with
them.  It does get frustrating to have to make sure my fingers cooperate
with the bobbins, and then my lacing gets slow.  Not that I am trying to
race with the lace.  I just want to enjoy it.  But little blips in the
process do hinder.  I have found that working on a bolster with bobbins
palms up works better for my hands.  Not that it is what I always use.  I
enjoy using all types of pillows and bobbins.

The painted and decorated bobbins are a feast for the eyes, as is the lace
that comes out from it.  Working with bobbins that fit your hand is also a
lacemakers delight. ;)

-- 
Mark, aka Tatman
website: http://www.tat-man.net
blog: http://tat-man.net/blog
Magic Thread Shop: http://www.tat-man.net/tatterville/tatshop/tatshop.html
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RE: [lace] bobbins

2010-10-26 Thread Sue
At Lace in the Forum (our biannual mass demonstration of Nofolk Lacemakers)
one of the  members  took photos of most of our pillows, but the thing she
was most  interested in were the hands making the lace, when we saw all the
photos it was truly amazing how she had caught the very act of making lace
it  really is something that I think will be of interest to lacemakers in
the future.

 

Sue M Harvey

Norfolk UK

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Re: [lace] bobbins

2010-10-25 Thread Celtic Dream Weaver
 It would be really great if there could be a place online where pictures of 
bobbins could be shown from this collection or that collection. I have to admit 
that over the years I have tried to get picture of pillows with the bobbins on 
them in different lacing classes. I think it if fun looking at the pictures 
later on and seeing all the different bobbins decorating and being used in a 
lace project. Maybe some of you can take a picture of your pillow with lace in 
process and show off the bobbins that are right at this moment dancing on your 
pillows. It would be nice if you could share ...is there anybody else out there 
interested in seeing pillows with lace in progress and the dancing bobbins on 
them? OR am I the only one that is facinated at seeing all kinds of bobbins on 
one pillow.
Wind To Thy Wings,
Sherry
celticdreamwe...@yahoo.com
http://celticdreamweaver.com/
http://celticdreamweave.blogspot.com/
Nata 616




- Original Message 
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To: lace@arachne.com
Sent: Mon, October 25, 2010 9:58:36 AM
Subject: [lace] bobbins

Hi,

Since bobbins are a topic again, perhaps someone will know the bobbin
painter 
with the initials A P T. The painting is similiar to Shirley Gates
but brighter, 
heavier on the paint and the initials are on the bottom knob.
 Jane O'Connor 
jjo...@sbcglobal.net 
New Lenox, IL USA 


Birthdays are good
for you; the more you have, the longer you live.

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Re: [lace] Bobbins - address correction

2010-10-22 Thread lacelady
Please note that there's a space after the  // that needs removed before the 
address will work.
Try:   http://jeanmaryeke.com

Alice in Oregon

- Original Message -
However, I have posted , on my website, a very few bobbins which may be of 
interest to you.

Go to   http:// jeanmaryeke.com  scroll down the first page to about 
the middle and click on the spider's web. 

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Re: [lace] Bobbins - address correction

2010-10-22 Thread Jean Eke
Try this link   http://www.jeanmaryeke.com 

Jean




On 22 Oct 2010, at 18:08, lacel...@frontier.com wrote:

 Please note that there's a space after the  // that needs removed before the 
 address will work.
 Try:   http://jeanmaryeke.com
 
 Alice in Oregon
 
 - Original Message -
 However, I have posted , on my website, a very few bobbins which may be of 
 interest to you.
 
 Go to   http:// jeanmaryeke.com  scroll down the first page to about 
 the middle and click on the spider's web. 
 
 

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Subject: Re: [lace] bobbins... and now, teaching?

2010-09-27 Thread Janice Blair
I bought the dowel and some long wooden beads years ago with the intent of 
using 
it to make long bobbins for doing yarn lace.  It is on my someday list.

Teaching - well my guild is having it's third class this year for beginners in 
November and without any advertising we already have 9 people on the list!  The 
first class earlier in the year was a success with some new members and the 
followup continuing class also included 5 new beginners, 4 of which joined 
the 
guild.  Now we have decided to offer a class on a special day rather than eat 
into our guild meeting days.  I came up with a new simple pattern this time 
that 
should be able to be completed easily in the 4 hours this class will have, and 
that will include them doing some winding of  bobbins and pricking the pattern. 
 Our guild members help out by sitting alongside the newbies, one-on-one if 
possible, and this takes the burden off the person running the class of being 
everywhere all at the same time.  I am concerned that if we keep growing at 
this 
rate, we will outgrow our meeting room which is very convenient and economical 
for us at present.

I developed an easy bookmark pattern, just uploaded it to the second page of my 
arachne webshots album:

http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/album/149126673AmIpMo?start=0

If anyone wants a to proof read my class notes and get the pattern, email me. 
 The piece uses 7 pairs of bobbins and 35/2 linen thread.  

Janice
 Janice Blair
Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA
www.jblace.com
http://www.lacemakersofillinois.org

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Subject: Re: [lace] bobbins... and now, teaching?

2010-09-27 Thread Janice Blair
Thank you to Karen in Malta for the grammatical corrections, and to my friend 
Brenda who worked it up from the directions and had no problem.  The heart 
bookmark pattern is useable now and available if you email me off list.
Janice
 Janice Blair
Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA
www.jblace.com
http://www.lacemakersofillinois.org

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Re: Subject: Re: [lace] bobbins... and now, teaching?

2010-09-27 Thread Tamara P Duvall
On Sep 27, 2010, at 8:22 PM, Janice Blair wrote:

 The heart bookmark pattern is useable now and available if you email me off 
 list.

Call it Key To My Heart :)

-- 
Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/
Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland)

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RE: [lace] bobbins

2010-09-26 Thread Noelene Lafferty
I too made a set of pony bead bobbins when I started - I was able to buy
glass pony/jug beads through eBay, including some heart shaped ones to put
at the bottom of each bobbin.

Finding suitable size wood was the hardest bit, until I found a Remote
Control hobby shop - the sort that sells the thin balsa wood for making
model planes, and they had a very fine dowel in hardwood which was ideal.

Noelene in Cooma
nlaffe...@ozemail.com.au

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Re: [lace] bobbins... and now, teaching?

2010-09-26 Thread Clay Blackwell
When I first started making lace in the late '90s, I was able to borrow, 
from my guild,  two or three dozen very plain bobbins, spangled with 
very plain beads as well as a pillow and cover cloths and pins... for up 
to three months in order to determine whether I would be interested in 
continuing.  Needless to say, I was very interested!  My guild then 
directed me to numerous websites and vendors where I could purchase the 
supplies I needed.  I started out with two or three dozen plain bobbins 
of my own, and at my very first lace day bought a dozen pretty 
bobbins.  I fell in love with spangling.  I joined a bobbin-a-month club 
with Maureen Benda - and she introduced me to lots and lots of wonderful 
bobbin-makers from all over the world.  Within the first year, I had 
enough pretty bobbins to work the nice English laces I was making at 
the time.


Since then, many of my favorite bobbin-makers have retired.  Many of my 
favorite vendors (including Maureen) have moved on to other pursuits, or 
have retired.  I have two of Richard Worthen's bobbin display domes 
which contain some of my favorite painted wood bobbins, and my favorites 
from my collection of Archer bone bobbins.  These occupy places of honor 
in my house!


The first bobbins I bought - two or three dozen plain - were spangled 
with interesting beads.  I had no qualms about cutting spangles off of a 
plain bobbin to put on a more luxurious bobbin...  but I always replaced 
the spangle on the plain bobbins with something.  These plain bobbins 
have been loaned out so many times that I can't count.  Sadly, the 
success rate has not been tremendous.  People learn, through using 
decent tools on a decent pillow, whether or not they want to pursue 
bobbin lacemaking.  Some have, but more have not.  I recognize that we 
are a rare breed!  ; )


The true measure of success in teaching new lacemakers is to have the 
equipment they need readily available for a reasonable length of time, 
and most importantly, to have a good teacher who is willing to devote 
the time and energy needed to get newcomers started.  Unfortunately, in 
my experience, the lack of teachers is the primary reason our magical 
art is seeing a decline in new lacemakers.  I acknowledge that I am not 
a teacher.  I lack the patience and the ability to recognize the 
student's required learning mode, and thus follow it, and I remain 
focused on my own lacemaking, rather that focus on the growth of the 
art.And so...  I am not criticizing anyone for not being a teacher.  
More to the point, I am criticizing people who *claim* to be teachers, 
but whose lack of the required characteristics make them teachers of 
beginners in name only...  and this is where we're losing them.


Having said all of this, perhaps now that I have studied with the 
masters (most recently, Anne-Marie Verbeke-Billiet), is it time for me 
to set aside my own self-centered interest in lace and offer to teach a 
newcomer?  I  recognize that this will be a gift to our art, and will 
require me to shift my perspective.   Is anyone else interested in doing 
the same?  We may need to support each other!!


Clay







On 9/26/2010 6:17 PM, Noelene Lafferty wrote:

I too made a set of pony bead bobbins when I started - I was able to buy
glass pony/jug beads through eBay, including some heart shaped ones to put
at the bottom of each bobbin.

Finding suitable size wood was the hardest bit, until I found a Remote
Control hobby shop - the sort that sells the thin balsa wood for making
model planes, and they had a very fine dowel in hardwood which was ideal.

Noelene in Cooma
nlaffe...@ozemail.com.au

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[lace] Re lace bobbins

2008-07-25 Thread ann.humphreys
Bone bobbins are my favourite and I have managed to collect quite a few over 
the years and in all that time I have only ever broken one as a result of 
dropping it on my tiled kitchen floor. I have had wooden bobbins snap off at 
the neck too. My advise would be to collect the type of bobbin that really 
appeals to you. If you are just starting out collecting bobbins don't pay 
too much for them until you know exactly what it is you want. A lot of the 
pleasure in making lace for me is the look and the feel of the smooth bone 
bobbins in my fingers.


Ann
Yorkshire UK 


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[lace] Re: lace Bobbins

2008-07-21 Thread Tamara P Duvall

On Jul 21, 2008, at 23:58, Elizabeth Ligeti wrote:

I love the smooth silky feel of bone bobbins, - but can't afford them 
very

often, unfortunately.


Ditto on both -- I adore bone bobbins but can't really aford them. It's 
just as well that my favourite bobbin maker (Neil Keats, in Oz), who 
makes my special T-squares, doesn't work with bone; I'd be too broke 
to afford thread or pillows :)


Bone bobbins are heavier than wood -- even ebony -- ones, so they 
tension better. But they're not as heavy as metal ones, so they don't 
break even very fine thread. They don't need varnish or laquer to 
finish -- they just get smoother and smoother as they age, without 
anything peeling off, getting sticky in humid climate or porous from 
excess hand perspiration. The sound of bone bobbins clicking is 
surpassed by that of glass ones but, somehow, bone bobbins feel more 
alive to touch, than glass ones ever do.


So, if I had all of my d'ruthers, I'd rather have only bone bobbins 
to work with. But I'm happy enough with my wood ones, though I -- 
definitely -- have preferences as to which woods I like better than 
others.

--
Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/
Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland)

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Re: [lace] Bobbins bone/ivory

2008-04-27 Thread John Fran
Many thanks to everyone who replied to my question on this topic.  


Fran

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Re: [lace] Bobbins bone/ivory

2008-04-26 Thread Jean Nathan

Brian Lemin and David Springett are the authorities on lace bobbins.

In his book Success to the Lace Pillow, David Springett says that he has 
never found an ivory bobbin, which would make sense because lacemakers 
wouldn't be able to afford ivory bobbins from the meagre amount they earned 
making lace. The bones of cattle would be used for making all sorts of 
things, and perhaps the bones of the house cow would be used like this when 
it died.


Brian Lemin has written an interesting article on the Lacefairy site:

http://bobbins.lacefairy.com/BobbinMuseum/WhatisIt.html

and, among other informative things, says always assume bobbins and sewing 
tools are bone unless I have *very* good reason to believe otherwise


You won't find modern elephant ivory bobbins in the UK because its use, sale 
and export is illegal unless it was hunted and collected before 1947. To 
sell ivory to another country from the UK, you must obtain an expprt license 
from Revenue and Customs and prove that it's pre1947.


Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK

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From: John  Fran

To: Lace@arachne.com
Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 9:01 AM
Subject: [lace] Bobbins bone/ivory


Does anyone know of a site where some ivory bobbins might be shown alongside
bone bobbins?

And does anyone know how to tell the difference between an ivory bobbin and
a bone bobbin?

I'm asking because this topic has come up in a genealogical mailing list for
an area in Britain where lace makers were common in the 19th century.

I would like to post relevant responses back to that list but, of course,
would do so without any identifying information.

Fran. 


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Re: [lace] Bobbins bone/ivory

2008-04-26 Thread Brenda Paternoster

Hi Fran

There is a bone bobbin and an ivory bobbin on my bobbin materials page
http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/lace/bobbins/materials.html
2nd and 3rd pictures going down the page.

It's impossible to tell just from pictures; Carole has already posted a 
few tests, but in practice the vast majority of lace bobbins were bone. 
 Even in the days when no-one thought it wrong to kill elephants for 
their tusks ivory was a rare and expensive material but pig, cow and 
horse bones were readily available.  Lacemaking was a cottage industry, 
undertaken mostly by women, whose husbands were Ag Labs and they just 
didn't have the money for ivory.  They used whatever was around - bone 
or fruit woods.


Brenda

Does anyone know of a site where some ivory bobbins might be shown 
alongside bone bobbins?


And does anyone know how to tell the difference between an ivory 
bobbin and a bone bobbin?


I'm asking because this topic has come up in a genealogical mailing 
list for an area in Britain where lace makers were common in the 19th 
century.


I would like to post relevant responses back to that list but, of 
course, would do so without any identifying information.




Brenda in Allhallows, Kent
http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/index.html

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Re: [lace] bobbins tied or wound loose`

2007-10-17 Thread Shere'e
I tie mine on after a hard lesson:

I wound up 200 pair for a project and head a knock on the door. It was
my downstairs neighbor. She was having a miscarriage and could I take
her to the ER. Of course, I was out the door before the words were
totally out of her mouth. Didn't even bother to turn off the lights.
They managed to stop her labor and saved the baby (a really cute
little girl born 3 months later!)

I got home to a surprise. While I had been gone Alanna (my cat) had
just a WONDERFUL time!! She had pulled every single bobbin down off
the rack and had played with them. There was a blizzard of white
thread all over my apartment. By not tying on the bobbins it was even
more fun trying to locate where she had taken the bobbins off to. I
never did find all of them.

NOW I have them tied on and when one of the cats pulls a stunt like
that I can follow the thread to the bobbin.

Shere'e
Seattle, WA USA
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Re: [lace] bobbins tied or wound loose`

2007-10-17 Thread Jenny Brandis
Thank you all for explaining why you tie your thread to the bobbins - 
I don't, but at least now I will remember *why* it is a good idea and 
will only have myself to blame if I lose a bobbin because of it not 
being tied. It also gives me a reason to be more patient with another 
lacemaker who is pedantic about it MUST be done this way but can 
never explain WHY!



Jenny Brandis
Kununurra, Western Australia

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Re: [lace] bobbins tied or wound loose`

2007-10-17 Thread Barb ETx
One time, atleast 100 years ago (G), Gertrude Biedermann told me that the more
knots you tie, the more you have to untie...so I only tie when I am
leaving home!
Smiles BarbE

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  To: lace@arachne.com
  Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 4:33 PM
  Subject: Re: [lace] bobbins tied or wound loose`


  Thank you all for explaining why you tie your thread to the bobbins -
  I don't, but at least now I will remember *why* it is a good idea and
  will only have myself to blame if I lose a bobbin because of it not
  being tied. It also gives me a reason to be more patient with another
  lacemaker who is pedantic about it MUST be done this way but can
  never explain WHY!


  Jenny Brandis
  Kununurra, Western Australia

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Re: [lace] bobbins tied or wound loose` (Shuttles)

2007-10-17 Thread Cher Camacho

Hi Lacer,
I have to jump in here...which you don't find me doing, but just can't 
resist having a good laugh all over again.
I know this is about a tatting shuttle and not a bobbin, but sorta on 
subject.
 Several years ago,  I found myself dropping my tatting shuttle (silver) 
down the wood floor of Fort Calhoun ,on the outside of a re-enact cabin.  As 
I pulled on the thread I kept saying to myself, did I or didn't I tie a 
knotWith a fully wound bobbin and having a pile of thread next to the 
hole and completely unaware of anything going on around me!  Just intense on 
retreaving my shuttle...I get to the end of the thread and yes I had tied 
the thread, Yep Pee ! Problem was the shuttle kept swinging crosswise to the 
crack!  Frustrated, I suddenly realized I had a large audience watching me! 
I also noticed a little boy chewing gum...you guessed it.. I talked him out 
of his gum for a lolli pop!  I put the gum on the end of a pencil and... 
Wall'La onto the shuttle it stuck and I brought it up and out !  The crowd 
clapped and I cheered to think there is still sticky gum out there!
 Another time I was at a lake, sitting out in the middle of the water in a 
gazebo, I dropped it through the slats, again did I or didn't I tie the 
thread...I had this time a Golden Lab that came  from who knows where, he 
had his eye and head right down there with mine! Watching every move I made. 
As the thread would bring the shuttle up out of the water, only to fall back 
down as it would unwind, and this time I had not tied the shuttle!  But 
because it was a light plastic..:) Iwas able to run and follow that shuttle 
as it floated to shore! Only to find myself having to fight with the dog, :} 
who decided it was his!  I did get it back..I'm very hard headed. :0) I won! 
Morral to this story...I always take the time now! Even with my bobbins..

Cher
Papillion,Ne

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Re: [lace] bobbins

2006-12-11 Thread Malvary J Cole

SMP Lace at:
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/smplace/
have basic bulk bobbins at 50 for £15.  He mails things very quickly and 
takes credit cards.


Strictly a very satisfied customer.

Malvary in Ottawa (the Nation's Capital), Canada

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Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2006 7:20 PM
Subject: [lace] bobbins



Gentle Spiders,

 Hello all, my sweet hubby has informed me that I can have what I want for 
Christmas, it will be the first of January but that is fine with me.  What 
I would like to know is, are there any places on the internet that have 
bobbins that if you buy in bulk they are less expensive.  I figure maybe 
around 50 of them to start with if the price is right as far as he is 
concerned.  I thought I saw some for around 70 cents a piece but don't 
know where it was at.  Thank you for any help.


 Lynn

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Re: [lace] bobbins

2006-12-11 Thread Sue Babbs

Lynn
I guess we can advise you best if you tell us what sort of bobbins you are 
looking for - Honiton, Midlands, continental, square etc and if you have a 
preference for wood, plastic or bone.


Sue


Gentle Spiders,

 Hello all, my sweet hubby has informed me that I can have what I want 
for Christmas, it will be the first of January but that is fine with me. 
What I would like to know is, are there any places on the internet that 
have bobbins that if you buy in bulk they are less expensive.  I figure 
maybe around 50 of them to start with if the price is right as far as he 
is concerned.  I thought I saw some for around 70 cents a piece but don't 
know where it was at.  Thank you for any help.


 Lynn



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Re: [lace] bobbins on ebay

2006-05-13 Thread Brenda Paternoster
And 39 of them are described as bone/ivory.  I've just got  home from  
Upchurch lace Day where David Springett was the speaker and he said  
that in all of his experience he's only seen ONE antique bobbin that  
was made of ivory!  Maybe that's why they are attracting such a nice  
price.


Looks like a genuine collection of old bobbins but nothing spectacular.  
 Pity the photos were taken at such an acute angle - impossible to see  
exactly what's in the lot, but an average of more than 10 GBP per  
bobbin does seem a bit steep.


A VERY RARE CHANCE TO BUY A LARGE COLLECTION OF ANTIQUE LACE BOBBINS TO  
INCLUDE 39 BONE / IVORY EXAMPLES ALL WITH THERE BEADS AND 56 TREEN  
EXAMPLES ALSO WITH ALL THERE BEADS PLEASE DO NOT NOT TO MANY QUESTIONS  
REGARD TO THIS LOT MY KNOWLEDGE IS LIMITED ALL I CAN SAY THERE ARE FROM  
A GENUINE HOUSE CLEARANCE AND TOTALLY GENUINE VERY RARE CHANCE.


Brenda

On 13 May 2006, at 14:24, Whitham wrote:


Hi everybody,

Here's a nice collection of bobbins on ebay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/LARGE-19thc-COLLECTION-TREEN-BONE-IVORY-LACE- 
BOBBINS_W0QQ

itemZ8283767587QQcategoryZ112535QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


Item # 8283767587

They are going for a nice price,

Irene
Surrey, BC

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Re: [lace] bobbins on e-bay

2005-12-19 Thread Jean Nathan
Malvary wrote:

Do you think these are genuinely old?  The colour is very green and the
lettering in orange and yellow.  Are they new ones made to look old, or old
ones made to be more eye-catching.  The others listed by the same seller are
perhaps suspicious too - long names with the letters alternately coloured.

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ANTIQUE-NAMED-LACE-BOBBIN-SUSAN-19TH-CENTURY_W0QQitemZ8243
409794QQcategoryZ19158QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ANTIQUE-NAMED-LACE-BOBBIN-FANNY-19TH-CENTURY_W0QQitemZ8243
417345QQcategoryZ19158QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


Oh no! They are old, but the 'Susan' one has recently been painted green,
with the bits around the name left blank. The 'Fanny' one has been painted and
the letters painted over. The bands appear to have been 'enhanced' as well.
Both completely wrecked. They wouldn't have been like that originally. Old
stained bobbins are *usually* red or green, and the parts that would be
handled and exposed to the air would be faded.

Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK

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Re: [lace] bobbins on e-bay

2005-12-19 Thread CLIVE Rice
Why do I get the message that these items have been romoved by e-bay? There 
follows many warnings...

Betty Ann in Roanoke, Virginia USA


http://cgi.ebay.ca/ANTIQUE-NAMED-LACE-BOBBIN-SUSAN-19TH-CENTURY_W0QQitemZ8243
409794QQcategoryZ19158QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ANTIQUE-NAMED-LACE-BOBBIN-FANNY-19TH-CENTURY_W0QQitemZ8243
417345QQcategoryZ19158QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


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Re: [lace] bobbins on e-bay

2005-12-19 Thread Jean Nathan

Betty Ann wrote:

You get the message because only the part of the address is underlined or 
the address is on two lines. Only the underlined bit on the first line, or 
the underlined bit if part isn't underlined, registers with ebay when you 
click on it. You have to either paste the missing bit onto the end, or 
search for the item number (8243409794 for the 'susan' bobbin).


http://cgi.ebay.ca/ANTIQUE-NAMED-LACE-BOBBIN-SUSAN-19TH-CENTURY_W0QQitemZ8243409794QQcategoryZ19158QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK

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Why do I get the message that these items have been romoved by e-bay? 
There follows many warnings...

Betty Ann in Roanoke, Virginia USA





http://cgi.ebay.ca/ANTIQUE-NAMED-LACE-BOBBIN-FANNY-19TH-CENTURY_W0QQitemZ8243
417345QQcategoryZ19158QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


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[lace] Re Lace bobbins in Radio Times

2005-11-22 Thread Shirley
apparently the honiton bobbins needed to pass through the fabric!
jenny barron

Well I would have liked to see that.   ;-)

Shirley in Corio Oz.

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Re: [lace] Bobbins, and other things.

2005-05-01 Thread robinlace
Another point to consider:  I don't think cling wrapping is available 
in all airports.  So you might be able to use it coming, but that 
doesn't mean you'll be able to get it on the return trip.  

Robin P.
Los Angeles, California, USA
(formerly  Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania)
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From: Lorri Ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 I used it on a bag when returning from OIDFA last summer.  The bag 
 had loose carrying straps and I thought it might get caught in 
equipment.  
 It wasn't opened.  I also saw the check in counter require a man with 
a 
 backpack get it wrapped.
 

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[lace-chat] Air Security: was: Re: [lace] Bobbins, and other things.

2005-04-29 Thread Joy Beeson
Moved to Chat because my response is very off-topic:  

At 07:13 PM 4/28/05 -0700, Barbara Joyce wrote:

I really hate what the terrorists have done to us. :-(

All the terrorists did was wave blankets at us.  
We jumped over the cliff entirely on our own.   


At 06:31 AM 4/29/05 -0400, Laurie Hughes wrote:

I just take most valuables with me on the plane in carry-on.

But then security will steal and destroy it on suspicion of it 
looking something like something that could conceivably be 
used as a weapon.  

Sigh.  For me, not flying in the U.S. means not flying.  
At the moment, by good luck, I don't want to go anywhere 
I can't get to by car.  (But we're starting to have safety check points.)

-- 
Joy Beeson, resident curmudgeon

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Re: [lace] Bobbins, and other things.

2005-04-28 Thread Barbara Joyce
Liz,

Regarding securing suitcases when flying, it is not possible to do that in
the US. After 9/11, our security procedures have become quite rigid and
severe. The Transportation Security Administration (TSA) has the right to
open and search any/every bag that is checked, and likewise they can examine
the contents of any carry-on bag that you have with you. I'm pretty sure
they check bags coming in from other countries before they go onto domestic
flights.

My husband was randomly selected to have his carry-on bag inspected, and I
can tell you they took out every single thing, unzipped every pouch, looked
in every container. Last time I flew to Denver (from Seattle--our son lives
there), I found a printed note from TSA informing me that they'd opened my
suitcase and inspected the contents. Again, I assume this was random, since
there was nothing in the suitcase that should have triggered their concern.

While we're on the subject, that's why I use big zipper plastic bags when I
pack. For example, all my underwear goes in a zipper bag. At least in
theory, when they get that far, they don't open the bag since it's
transparent and they can see what's inside. They wear rubber gloves, but I
still don't like the idea that they're handling my personal items!

Smokers, take note. Very recently a new rule went into effect banning all
cigarette lighters from carry-on bags (they've been banned on checked
luggage for a long time, as have matches). You can take three (I think
that's the correct number) books of matches on the plane with you. Lighters
in carry-ons can be returned to your car or given to someone who is not
traveling, or else they will be confiscated.

I really hate what the terrorists have done to us. :-(

Barbara Joyce

Snoqualmie, WA
USA





 I have a bobbin that says A Creative Mess is better than tidy Idleness!!
 I just Had to have that one!! (I must be Very creative!!!
 :))  )
 
 A lot of you travel around and fly hither and thither. Have any of you used
 the system of wrapping your cases in Cling Film that is now on offer at
 airports, to secure your cases against tampering, etc.?
 We are considering it for our travels to USA in July.  An Aussie girl is on
 trial for her life in Indonesia, charged with importing a large amount of
 drugs in a surf board bag, but she claims it was put there by someone after
 she handed in her luggage.  We, and most Aussies, feel she is an innocent
 victim, after hearing stories of other travellers, and we are getting a bit
 jumpy!!
 We are anxious to hear if anyone else has used this service, at an airport,
 and if they had any problems with customs wanting to open all their cases
 that had the wrap put around it.
 
 Thanks,
 Regards from Liz in Melbourne
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Re: [lace] Bobbins, and other things.

2005-04-28 Thread robinlace
From: Barbara Joyce [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Regarding securing suitcases when flying, it is not possible to do 
 that in the US. After 9/11, our security procedures have become quite 
 rigid and severe. The Transportation Security Administration (TSA) 
has the 
 right to open and search any/every bag that is checked, and likewise 
they 
 can examine the contents of any carry-on bag that you have with you. 
 

There are two ways to secure your bags.  You can use twist-ties that 
come with plastic bags.  If you do, the TSA will replace them if/when 
they inspect the bag.  OF course, anybody else can also open these, but 
at least it keeps zippers from opening accidently and spilling your 
undies across the baggage carousel (that happened to someone).  After 
all, only another lacemaker would covet bobbins or pillow, and we're 
both scarce and sweet (mostly, anyway :) ).

The other, more truly secure, way is with certain TSA-approved locks.  
These are sold at Brookstone and luggage stores.  They are combination 
locks and you get to set the combination, but they also open with a key 
that (supposedly) only TSA staff have.  So TSA can open and inspect the 
bag, but (supposedly) nobody else can.

I haven't heard about using cling wrap.  I'm not sure TSA staff would 
bother to try to keep it neat enough to put it back if they opened the 
bag, but that's just my speculation.

Robin P.
Los Angeles, California, USA
(formerly  Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania)
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RE: [lace] Bobbins for sewings/Swiss stamp raffle reminder

2005-02-26 Thread Clay Blackwell
Although I seldom disagree with Tamara, the relatively new International
Square bobbin is every bit as wonderful as her custom made.  Truth be
told, they are a tad longer (no problem), have a double head, and no
fiddley turnings to get in the way.  I'm sure if these had been around when
T was looking for the perfect bobbin for her lace, this would have been her
choice.  And for the rest of us mortals, who don't have access to
custom-made, they're ideal!!  Naturally, I had already spent a small
fortune on another type bobbin by the time I discovered these (I think
they're a fairly new addition to the line-up).  And since then, I've moved
on to Binche, so it's a moot point now.  

Clay

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 [Original Message]
 From: Tamara P. Duvall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: lace Arachne lace@arachne.com
 Date: 2/24/2005 11:04:53 PM
 Subject: [lace] Bobbins for sewings/Swiss stamp raffle reminder

 I'm beginning to pay attention to business as usual again; it's as if 
 *I* were recovering from a grave illness :)

 On Feb 24, 2005, at 16:47, [EMAIL PROTECTED]  (Debbie) wrote:

  it would be even better to have bobbins without turned
  decorations;  just a smooth, smooth finish!

 No kidding... :)

 The smooth *head* is important in all laces, and we all know that - 
 however coarse it might be, you don't want the thread, passing from the 
 neck to the lace, to be rubbing against chips in the head. And, as the 
 thread gets finer, even the pores in the wood may become a problem, so 
 you want wood that's as dense as possible (if you can't afford ebony, 
 olive is fantastic g).

 But the smooth *tail* is also important to all laces - not just Honiton 
 - which require frequent sewings... Yes, I know that there are people 
 who make Milanese with Midlands and don't mind passing the spangle 
 through the hooked loop. Well, ...

 Obviously, the greatest danger spot in sewings is in passing your 
 tool (whatever it is you're using; I favour a fine crochet hook, but I 
 don't make either Honiton or Withof, for which no crochet hook is fine 
 enough) into and under a bar, hooking a thread - without splitting it 
 into its component plies - and pulling it up far enough to pass the 
 other bobbin through the resulting loop.

 But there are minor concerns which ought to be considered also. Even if 
 your bobbin's head is glass-smooth... Even if you grab your entire 
 thread on your first try, without spliting it...

 When you pull a loop up through a pinhole, there's friction - against 
 the thread on the sides of the pinhole - on the thread being pulled. To 
 pass a Midlands spangle in comfort, you need to pull a loop that's 
 about an inch long. That's about 2 inches of thread that's being 
 weakened in the process. Unless your thread is very coarse indeed 
 and/or unless you're not going to use the same pair for a sewing any 
 time soon, it'll take a long time to get rid of 2 inches of weaker 
 thread.

 To pass most Continental bobbins (the old Danish bobbins, with a big 
 and decorated bulb at the bottom are an exception), the loop needs to 
 be half as long *if* as much; to pass a Honiton bobbin, even smaller 
 (quarter of an inch?)... Even apart from the time considerations (which 
 do not apply to us, since we're amateurs and can afford to spend years 
 perfecting a single bookmark g), the wear and tear on the thread (not 
 to mention the nerves, when your thread breaks and you have to deal 
 with it) is much less, if you use an undecorated and unassuming 
 bobbin...

 I use double-headed, square-bodied, tapered-tailed bobbins exclusively 
 now, for all laces I make, not just the frequent-sewings ones; they're 
 not to heavy even for organzine or Pipers 2/20 but will accomodate a 
 decent amount of heavier threads as well. They require a 3/8 loop, ie 
 3/4 of thread to pass through. But I had to design them myself (with a 
 bit of help of the maker, who designed a precision head to die for 
 g)... I look at the majority of square bobbins available on the 
 market and shudder - they're carved to within an inch of their life, 
 for pretty. T o me, they look like some Victorian nightmare vision of 
 Middle Ages design, with lots and lots of traps for the unwary 
 thread... They may only be 3/8 at their widest point, like mine, but I 
 sure as sure would not risk putting them through a 3/8 high loop :)

 ///

 Re the embroidered Swiss stamp raffle: just to remind you that it's 
 open, and that I'll be collecting entries till Monday Feb 28, 
 announcing the winner (alas, one only) on Tues, March 1. So far, there 
 are only 27 entries; I think people were distracted from signing up, by 
 my panicky messages about Vlad.

 You can see the stamp at:
 http://www.t-n-lace.net/Swiss%20stamp.jpg

 Apparently, I *was* able to upload it - though not quite the way I'd 
 hoped to g - and DS found it for me in the puter's guts. I still 
 don't know where it's at (regarding the 

Re: [lace] Bobbins for Withof

2004-12-06 Thread Steph Peters
On Sun, 5 Dec 2004 07:04:11 +1100,  Noelene wrote:
I intend doing a workshop in Withof early next year, and
am curious to know what is the best shape of bobbins for
the project.   I usually use spangled Midlands, but I read
I will need unspangled bobbins and want to get my DH
turning me some now.

How many will I need?  And do I need any special sort of pins?

If you happen to have them on hand, it is quite feasible to use unspangled
Midlands to try out Withof, to see whether you like it before investing in a
new style of bobbin.  OTOH if you want to try some different bobbins, then I
suggest Binche bobbins.  Mine are light enough to use with the finest
threads, but have enough head space to use with even a size 30 cotton, as
I'm doing at the moment for Milanese.  

Anneke suggested:
you can find pictures of suitable bobbins on www.brejaart.com
I use bobbins nr 24 (30 and 32 are similar). Good bobbins for Withof are
also 39 (40) and 44 and 45.
The ones I use are like 44 and 45. I have used them for Binche, Flanders,
Milanese and Withof quite happily.  The little bump on the bottom makes them
easier to put through a loop than a bobbin with a plain end.  Yvonne
Scheele-Kerkhof says that the wood should be at least the density of
cocobolo to get sufficient tension; she thinks that some of the least dense
woods result in bobbins that are too light.

Start with the pins that you already have for the size of thread you will be
using.  Different people do Withof in quite a variation of thread sizes, so
you need to find out what you like before investing in different pins.  The
ideal Withof pins have small heads, are short and resist bending when pushed
in fully.   

I started with size 80 cotton, but have now moved to 100.  I have used up to
25 pairs, but you probably won't need more than 20 to start. You can see the
Great African Snail I designed and made in classes with Yvonne at:
http://www.sandbenders.demon.co.uk/bobbinlace/images/Snail.jpg
I call him the 500 pound snail, because that's about what I spent on courses
and hotels over two years to make him.
--
One of the serious obstacles to the improvement of our race 
is indiscriminate charity. - Andrew Carnegie
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Re: [lace] Bobbins for Withof

2004-12-05 Thread Susan MacLeod
What beautiful lace!  I especially like that flower with the half stitch 
petals.  Is there a pattern for it?
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Re: [lace] Bobbins for Withof

2004-12-05 Thread anneke reijs
Hi Noelene and all,

You can find information about what materials you need for making Withof on
page 6 of my first manual on Sluis and Wifhof Lace!

But when you do not have the manuals:
you can find pictures of suitable bobbins on www.brejaart.com
I use bobbins nr 24 (30 and 32 are similar). Good bobbins for Withof are
also 39 (40) and 44 and 45.
Those are not too big, not too small and easy to make sewings with.

The pillow you need is has to be flat and firm, but not too hard. A pillow
with a O of 50 cm is best.

Use short, thin pins with small heads. The special copper Duchesse pins are
the best..
For sewing use a needlepin, with a slightly curved end. No crochet hook!

Duchesse lace is mostly worked with cotton. Usually Egyptian cotton 80/2 to
170/2.  Most laces in my manuals have been made with Egyptian cotton 120/2.
The gimp should not be too thick: it is not allowed to attract too much
attention.
Depending on what thread you use for the lace, you can take for the gimp:
Egyptian cotton 120/2, DMC cotton 50 - 70, Retors d'Alsace or Fredia linen
80/2.

You do not need a pattern on carton with Withof. Paper with the pattern
printed on it, covered with a piece of sticky transparant film goes well.
Best works the matt, coloured transparant film.

You can find more information about Withof and my manuals on http://home
hetnet.nl/~aplag/

Anneke Reijs in Baexem, The Netherlands
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---Original Message---

From: W  N Lafferty
Date: 12/04/04 21:05:26
To: Lace
Subject: [lace] Bobbins for Withof

I intend doing a workshop in Withof early next year, and
am curious to know what is the best shape of bobbins for
the project.   I usually use spangled Midlands, but I read
I will need unspangled bobbins and want to get my DH
turning me some now.

How many will I need?  And do I need any special sort of pins?

Noelene in Cooma
First heatwave, then cold spell, now back to normal
early summer
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Re: [lace] Bobbins for Withof

2004-12-05 Thread Barbara Joyce
 What beautiful lace!  I especially like that flower with the half stitch
 petals.  Is there a pattern for it?

Yes, in Withof Lace, the one that's out of print. It's on page 46.

Keep in mind that in Withof there's no working diagram to follow, and no
pinholes. You get a line drawing and you kind of do your own thing, placing
the pins along the line, wherever you think they should go!. Very daunting
at first, I might add! There are written instructions, however, to help you
get the idea of how it's done.

Barbara Joyce
Snoqualmie, WA
USA




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Re: [lace] Bobbins for Withof

2004-12-05 Thread anneke reijs
Sorry, the line was broken up! Here is the good combination:

http://home.hetnet.nl/~aplag/

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From: Ruth Rocker
every combination of your URL I tried didn't work. Can you post it again so
it hopefully all fits in one
line? please

Ruth in OK

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Re: [lace] Bobbins for Withof

2004-12-04 Thread Barbara Joyce
Withof is a beautiful lace. I hope you enjoy your workshop. :-)

The good news is that you don't need many bobbins in Withof. Maybe 12-15
pairs should do. Spangled bobbins are a no-no, because of the many sewings
involved in Withof, so you'll want a continental bobbin style. I used a slim
Binche bobbin in the workshop I took, and they worked fine.

You do want very short pins with small heads. For example, 17 x .45mm. These
are available in either brass or steel. Most people prefer the brass pins as
they're easier to see as you work. You'll also need a bent needlepin, which
is used for sewings (not a crochet hook). I reallly thought I'd have trouble
with that tool, but once you see the proper technique demonstrated, it's not
that hard to master.

If you would like to see some pictures to whet your appetite, please look on
my web site:

http://homepage.mac.com/bejoyce/withof

Enjoy! Who will be teaching your workshop? If you don't already have a
reference or two, you might want to pick up a copy of 50 Dutch Bobbin Lace
Patterns by Yvonne Scheele-Kerkhof, which is still in print (I believe),
and/or a used copy of Withof Lace (three authors), which is out of print.
Yvonne indicated in our class that Withof Lace is the better place to
start, if one can obtain a copy.

Hope this helps,

Barbara Joyce
Snoqualmie, WA
USA



 I intend doing a workshop in Withof early next year, and
 am curious to know what is the best shape of bobbins for
 the project.   I usually use spangled Midlands, but I read
 I will need unspangled bobbins and want to get my DH
 turning me some now.
 
 How many will I need?  And do I need any special sort of pins?
 
 Noelene in Cooma
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 early summer 
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[lace] Re: lace bobbins Australian dig site

2004-11-17 Thread Barbara Stokes
Dear Brian,
My DH is digging up yard at Rose St., Chippendale for building on, he
has found bits of pottery, glass  tiles etc.. shall I get him to dig
deeper to find some bobbins??
Barbara, Parkes, Australia.. where the current dust storms and locust
plague are preventing one uncovering the lace pillows!!

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Re: [lace] Bobbins question

2003-11-23 Thread Jacqui Southworth
On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 11:37:16 -0800, you wrote:

wonder if I have the right kind of paints. What does everyone uses to paint
their bobbins?  I also bought some water soluble outdoor gloss sealer that I
thought I could put on after the paint dries. Have I just bought a bunch of
great paints to pass along to friend's little kids or are these suitable for
using on my bobbins?

Hi Darlene - well you've made the right first step by buying unpolished bobbins to 
paint. Many lacemakers make the mistake of trying to paint polished
ones and wonder why it doesn't work.
I use artists acrylic paint (in tubes) which isn't expensive and a little goes a long 
way. You can control the consistency and the colours are intense
and vibrant. They are quick drying, don't smell, and I love the way I can layer the 
colours. I prefer non-sable paintbrushes - the nylon or man-made
ones are better for painting on wood, and I use 5 zero and 4 zero.
I coat them when dry ( 3 coats) with a plastic coating for wood, which you can usually 
get at a hardware shop, but polyurethane varnish will do as
well - it just takes longer to dry between coats, and I need speed. The plastic 
coating can be re-coated in 30 mins. The brand I use is by Rustins and
they have a web page:
http://www.rustins.co.uk
When I tried a water-soluble varnish  on the paint it made all the colours run, so not 
very useful.
BTW - I never varnish the necks of the bobbins - it makes them too slippy for thread, 
and gives me something to hold when I varnish them.
My DH has made me a long wooden rack, raised at one end,  with holes drilled into it,  
to hold them whilst drying - it makes my job a whole lot
easier.
Good luck.
ttfn Jacqui

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Re: [lace] Bobbins question - Decorating bobbins

2003-11-23 Thread Jeriames
In a message dated 11/22/03 9:07:21 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
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 I
 bought [among other things] some fancy Midlands unfinished bobbins. I
 figured getting them spangled would be easy enough but now I need to finish
 them first. I bought some water soluble acrylic paint with mixable colours
 by FolkArt.  I have tested the paints on a few pairs but then started to
 wonder if I have the right kind of paints. What does everyone uses to paint
 their bobbins?  I also bought some water soluble outdoor gloss sealer that I
 thought I could put on after the paint dries.  
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Dear Lacemakers and Darlene,

This is a wonderful fun activity for a local lace guild program - ask your 
Program Chairman!  

You might like to add decoupage instructions, if you have a program.  Before 
the bobbins are painted you can learn how to wrap the bobbins with lovely 
photos from flower seed, fashion, and museum catalogs, or gift wrapping paper.  
Designs need to be appropriate for a tiny surface, so there will be a fairly 
nice join where the wrap meets.  Paper needs to be light weight and capable of 
holding glue.  (Heavy glossy paper stock that you receive from fancy store 
catalogs will not hold glue.)  Then, you mix a small amount of paint to match the 
decoupage, and paint the exposed portion of each bobbin.  You can make singles, 
pairs, or an entire set of theme-based bobbins.

This topic was extensively discussed on Arachne a couple years ago, with 
contributions from various countries.  I am purposely not writing further 
instructions.  Several other people on Arachne will want to chip in with their 
experience.  

The slippery neck problem already mentioned can be corrected by using a small 
piece of fine steel wool to rough up the protective finish on the neck of a 
bobbin.  No need to avoid painting and applying a protective finish to the 
entire bobbin.  

Darlene, the product used on my (at least 12 years old) bobbins was Minwax 
Ultra Fast Drying Polycrylic Protective Finish - Clear Gloss.  Available in the 
U.S., and probably in Canada where you live.  Other products will do as well.  
Compare labels to learn what the products promise.  At the least, I would 
suggest you pair up with someone for a fun day.  That way, you can share the 
expense of supplies, and bounce creative ideas off one another.

Jeri Ames in Maine USA
Lace and Embroidery Resource Center 

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