Re: [lace-chat] Has anyone bought a good dishwasher lately

2010-11-07 Thread jviking
Hi All,  I haven't gotten to read all the mail about dishwashers but I
asked DH's opinion last night.  He's a Master Plumber (licensed, not me
exaggerating ).  He said he has heard Bosch is the best these days.  I
see a few other people have mentioned Bosch.  They make many of his best
tools.  And he said there are only a few companies that make dishwashsers
and they're sold under different names.

He would "expect" to get 20 years out of one.

We just replaced our refridgerator and found it was in the house when we
bought the house.  Only lasted 36 years!  Needless to say the electric
bill has gone down dramatically.

Jane in Vermont, USA wherer there are a few yellow leaves on the trees and
lots of bare branches.
jvik...@sover.net

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Re: [lace-chat] Has anyone bought a good dishwasher lately

2010-11-07 Thread Agnes Boddington

He is also pretty good with the vacuum cleaner, but don't ask him to cook.
Agnes


Of course, what Agnes fails to mention in her comments about  
dishwashers is


Her dishwasher makes coffee
Her dishwasher can wash hair sometimes
Her dishwasher walks the dog
AND her dishwasher turns lace bobbins!!!

Now that's the sort of model you need!!!

Sue in EY
On 6 Nov 2010, at 09:49, Agnes Boddington wrote:


I have a perfect dishwasher, and have had it for 31 years.


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Re: [lace-chat] Has anyone bought a good dishwasher lately

2010-11-06 Thread Sue Duckles
Of course, what Agnes fails to mention in her comments about  
dishwashers is


Her dishwasher makes coffee
Her dishwasher can wash hair sometimes
Her dishwasher walks the dog
AND her dishwasher turns lace bobbins!!!

Now that's the sort of model you need!!!

Sue in EY
On 6 Nov 2010, at 09:49, Agnes Boddington wrote:


I have a perfect dishwasher, and have had it for 31 years.
He always does the pots after breakfast, but still does not quite  
understand where everything goes after that.

Perhaps I should try labels on the cupboards and drawers?
The rest of the day, I do the pots, and actually enjoy the job.
Though after I broke my arm, my "dishwasher" functioned three times  
a day, but I am slowly taking over again.


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Re: [lace-chat] Has anyone bought a good dishwasher lately

2010-11-06 Thread Vicki Bradford
We replaced our dishwasher a couple of years ago as well, and after 
researching ratings purchased a Kenmore which is actually a Bosch.  It 
has performed well even on the 'quick wash' setting and the dishes and 
especially glassware are spotless (partly because it reminds you when 
it is low on Jet-Dry or similar agent which prevents water spots).  It 
does not have a heat element and dries the dishes using the residual 
heat generated from the hot water used in cleaning.  That took a little 
gettng used to, but we appreciate that it no doubt lowers energy use 
and thus operating cost as well.  The dishwasher it replaced was an 
Amana, which was over 20 years old (it was here when we bought the 
house).  The only thing wrong with the Amana was that the door spring 
broke and the door would fall open unless locked shut.  We decided that 
considering its age, we would replace it rather than trying to get it 
repaired...however, I expect it might have continued to work for some 
time.  We, too, run it only once or twice a week, so it does not get 
heavy use, and we rinse everything before putting it in the dishwasher. 
 Someone mentioned Kitchen-Aid...we bought a Kitchen-Aid fridge when we 
moved in which is now almost 21 years old and (knock wood) it has 
performed perfectly so I would expect any Kitchen-Aid product to live 
up to its reputation too.  As Devon said, things change so I would 
follow current recommendations of Consumers Reports and online ratings 
such as those found on ePinions, etc.


Vicki in autumny Marylandwhere a red fox was curled up asleep in 
our backyard this morning in a decidedly 'unrural' area...a tap on the 
window jolted it awake and it ran off, hopefully assuring us that it 
was not rabid...amazing how many wild things there are in very urban 
areas


Alice in Oregon wrote:

My old dishwasher was a Sears (Kenmore) model so we replaced it with 
another Sears. That's the only brand I've used.  However, I know that 
Sears contracts its appliances from other brands so they could actually 
be GE or something else.


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Re: [lace-chat] Has anyone bought a good dishwasher lately

2010-11-06 Thread lacelady
I will need to shop for a dishwasher soon.  I'm having one built in and cannot 
use my current portable because it's not standard size.

We bought a dishwasher about 1970 and used it about 30 years when it gave out.  
It was repaired once in that time.  Much later I was told that dealers expected 
that model to last about 8 years.  I guess that it lasted longer for us because 
I run it once a week rather than every day.  Because of limited space in my 
kitchen, I replaced it with an 18 inch wide model which held enough dishes for 
the two of us yet let me access a cupboard without moving the dishwasher.

The new built in dishwasher needs to be standard size so it can be easily 
replaced when needed in the future.  Your comments on different kinds is of 
interest to me.

My old dishwasher was a Sears (Kenmore) model so we replaced it with another 
Sears. That's the only brand I've used.  However, I know that Sears contracts 
its appliances from other brands so they could actually be GE or something else.

Alice in Oregon ... where 2/3 of my new driveway was poured yesterday and looks 
really nice.  The front section will be next week, weather permitting but rain 
is forecast for the next five days.  Hopefully, it will be light showers so 
work can continue.  I look forward to the dirt piles being gone -- they did 
promise to clean up the whole mess.  It's a very expensive Christmas present 
for DH but he will love it.


- Original Message -

> We had to replace a 10 - 15 year old dishwasher three or four years ago, 
> and at the advice of a friend, bought a  Kitchen-Aid, 

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Re: [lace-chat] Has anyone bought a good dishwasher lately

2010-11-06 Thread Linda Walton

Agnes Boddington wrote:

I have a perfect dishwasher, and have had it for 31 years.
He always does the pots after breakfast, but still does not quite 
understand where everything goes after that.

Perhaps I should try labels on the cupboards and drawers?

[snip]

Agnes Boddington - Elloughton UK


Where did you find it for sale?
Maybe there is a more advanced model available now!
Mine has the same fault - I wonder if there's a 'patch' you can instal 
to improve the program?


Our mechanical dishwasher is about five years old.  We bought it when 
our old one finally became unrepairable:  we'd had it for at least 
twenty-five years, and - at that - had bought it second-hand.  As it had 
been so reliable, we bought our new one from the same manufacturer, 
Bosch.  Unfortunately I can't tell you the model name, because it 
doesn't say anything but Bosch on the machine, and I've no idea what's 
happened to the handbook; but we selected it as being the most 'green' 
machine we could find, low energy use, low water requirement, all that 
stuff.  It does a perfect wash of a full load in about twenty minutes 
and is very quiet.


In the last few years we've had to replace a number of domestic items, 
mostly bought secondhand when we were just married.  We've found that 
German-made household goods are the best value for money. I notice that 
we happen to have bought - after talking to friends and researching 
consumer reports - a Miele washer-dryer and vacuum cleaner, and a Krupps 
kettle, all of which are excellent.  US-made goods don't seem to appear 
much in our English shops, so I suspect they are not very popular with 
the customers, (they have a poor reputation here); or maybe it's just 
something to do with having a different electrical supply, or something 
like that.


Good luck with your search,
Linda Walton, (on an unseasonably warm, damp morning in High Wycombe, 
Buckinghamshire, U.K.).


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Re: [lace-chat] Has anyone bought a good dishwasher lately

2010-11-06 Thread Agnes Boddington

I have a perfect dishwasher, and have had it for 31 years.
He always does the pots after breakfast, but still does not quite understand 
where everything goes after that.

Perhaps I should try labels on the cupboards and drawers?
The rest of the day, I do the pots, and actually enjoy the job.
Though after I broke my arm, my "dishwasher" functioned three times a day, 
but I am slowly taking over again.

Agnes Boddington - Elloughton UK

Subject: Re: [lace-chat] Has anyone bought a good dishwasher lately


We had to replace a 10 - 15 year old dishwasher three or four years ago, 
and at the advice of a friend, bought a  Kitchen-Aid, 

Clay


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Re: [lace-chat] Has anyone bought a good dishwasher lately

2010-11-05 Thread Clay Blackwell
We had to replace a 10 - 15 year old dishwasher three or four years ago, 
and at the advice of a friend, bought a  Kitchen-Aid, which was also 
highly rated by Consumer Reports.  It claimed to be energy-star, and to 
be ultra-quiet.  It actually cleans dishes better than any dishwasher 
I've ever used.  However, I can't really trust the energy-star rating, 
since this thing seems to run for over an hour...  maybe even closer to 
two!  And, the longer we've owned it, the more we hear the noise.  
Evidently, the insulation is degrading.  Still, we have not had (knock 
on wood!) any mechanical failures with it, and are pleased...  
especially with how spotless the dishes are.  (And I now use those "all 
in one" capsules made by Cascade).


Clay

On 11/5/2010 7:00 PM, Janice Blair wrote:

We replaced all our appliances about 2 years ago and bought stainless steel,
just for future resale purposes, but who knows what will be in by then.  We
bought a Bosch which has a stainless steel interior and is super quiet.  We
cannot hear it working when in the next room with no door between them.  In the
kitchen it just whispers.  It has several settings but I always stick with the
same one and has push button controls.  I am very happy with it.  If you need
the model number, let me know and I will look it up.

My Jenn-Air electric glass cooktop has already had one of the burners replaced.
  It took 5 visits from the repair man.  I joked that the neighbors would think 
I
was having an affair as he was there every Friday.  Seems they sent the wrong
burner the first time, second one came broken, finally he found that when the
burner went it must have also shorted out the switch.  Luckily, the parts were
covered under warranty and he only charged me for the call out fee.

Stainless has the advantage that you can't use magnets on it, so the front of my
fridge stays looking tidy.  Yes, I know you can get some magnetic stainless but
it doesn't look as good to me. JHMO.
Janice

  Janice Blair
Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA
www.jblace.com
http://www.lacemakersofillinois.org





From: "dmt11h...@aol.com"
To: lace-chat@arachne.com
Sent: Fri, November 5, 2010 5:15:54 PM
Subject: [lace-chat] Has anyone bought a good dishwasher lately

We seem to have offended the appliance gods, since all our appliances are
dying at once. I have been poring over consumer reports, and internet
reviews of  dishwashers and I am now terrified of buying one that either bursts
into flames  or does not clean the dishes. It would appear that recent
advances in energy and  water savings in the US have rendered dishwashers less
effective in their  primary purpose. Also, there is a  micro-processor in every
appliance made  in the US, and the micro-processors break when they get hot,
which seems to be  quite likely and quite common in a dishwasher or oven,
leading to  expensive repairs. I have just replaced my oven with a GE Profile
model, and I almost had a coronary when I was told by the  installer that
I could expect 5-8 years of service from it. The appliances  that are being
replaced are thirty years old, and it was not my intention to  have to
replace all major appliances twice a decade.
Since many of the people who are reporting their appliance experiences on
the internet are people who are having the worst possible experiences, which
skews the information, I thought I should ask the list if there is anyone
who  has had a good or bad experience with a dishwasher purchased in the
last 5 years  or so. How I long for my old style appliances that lasted
forever, but that is  now a bygone era. What is the best dishwasher brand now, I

wonder.
Devon

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Re: [lace-chat] Has anyone bought a good dishwasher lately

2010-11-05 Thread Janice Blair
We replaced all our appliances about 2 years ago and bought stainless steel, 
just for future resale purposes, but who knows what will be in by then.  We 
bought a Bosch which has a stainless steel interior and is super quiet.  We 
cannot hear it working when in the next room with no door between them.  In the 
kitchen it just whispers.  It has several settings but I always stick with the 
same one and has push button controls.  I am very happy with it.  If you need 
the model number, let me know and I will look it up.

My Jenn-Air electric glass cooktop has already had one of the burners replaced. 
 It took 5 visits from the repair man.  I joked that the neighbors would think 
I 
was having an affair as he was there every Friday.  Seems they sent the wrong 
burner the first time, second one came broken, finally he found that when the 
burner went it must have also shorted out the switch.  Luckily, the parts were 
covered under warranty and he only charged me for the call out fee.

Stainless has the advantage that you can't use magnets on it, so the front of 
my 
fridge stays looking tidy.  Yes, I know you can get some magnetic stainless but 
it doesn't look as good to me. JHMO.
Janice

 Janice Blair
Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA
www.jblace.com
http://www.lacemakersofillinois.org





From: "dmt11h...@aol.com" 
To: lace-chat@arachne.com
Sent: Fri, November 5, 2010 5:15:54 PM
Subject: [lace-chat] Has anyone bought a good dishwasher lately

We seem to have offended the appliance gods, since all our appliances are  
dying at once. I have been poring over consumer reports, and internet 
reviews of  dishwashers and I am now terrified of buying one that either bursts 
into flames  or does not clean the dishes. It would appear that recent 
advances in energy and  water savings in the US have rendered dishwashers less 
effective in their  primary purpose. Also, there is a  micro-processor in every 
appliance made  in the US, and the micro-processors break when they get hot, 
which seems to be  quite likely and quite common in a dishwasher or oven, 
leading to  expensive repairs. I have just replaced my oven with a GE Profile 
model, and I almost had a coronary when I was told by the  installer that 
I could expect 5-8 years of service from it. The appliances  that are being 
replaced are thirty years old, and it was not my intention to  have to 
replace all major appliances twice a decade.
Since many of the people who are reporting their appliance experiences on  
the internet are people who are having the worst possible experiences, which 
skews the information, I thought I should ask the list if there is anyone 
who  has had a good or bad experience with a dishwasher purchased in the 
last 5 years  or so. How I long for my old style appliances that lasted 
forever, but that is  now a bygone era. What is the best dishwasher brand now, 
I 

wonder.
Devon

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[lace-chat] Has anyone bought a good dishwasher lately

2010-11-05 Thread Dmt11home
We seem to have offended the appliance gods, since all our appliances are  
dying at once. I have been poring over consumer reports, and internet 
reviews of  dishwashers and I am now terrified of buying one that either bursts 
into flames  or does not clean the dishes. It would appear that recent 
advances in energy and  water savings in the US have rendered dishwashers less 
effective in their  primary purpose. Also, there is a  micro-processor in every 
appliance made  in the US, and the micro-processors break when they get hot, 
which seems to be  quite likely and quite common in a dishwasher or oven, 
leading to  expensive repairs. I have just replaced my oven with a GE Profile 
 model, and I almost had a coronary when I was told by the  installer that 
I could expect 5-8 years of service from it. The appliances  that are being 
replaced are thirty years old, and it was not my intention to  have to 
replace all major appliances twice a decade.
Since many of the people who are reporting their appliance experiences on  
the internet are people who are having the worst possible experiences, which 
 skews the information, I thought I should ask the list if there is anyone 
who  has had a good or bad experience with a dishwasher purchased in the 
last 5 years  or so. How I long for my old style appliances that lasted 
forever, but that is  now a bygone era. What is the best dishwasher brand now, 
I 
wonder.
Devon

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