Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates

[Tim Ziegler]

sounds good Curt and makes sense.
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 12:27 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Thank you all for the kind words.
>
> Tim. this was made form the stainless steel template.  So I will keep it
> here.
>
> I said that I would let this topic rest for the time being. So this should
> be the last posting on this topic for a while.
>
> Have a good night everyone.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Wednesday, February 21, 2024 at 05:45:43 PM EST, Ed Trevillian <
> edn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Curt,
> That looks like a very finely crafted handle to me. Perhaps what you see
> as a flaw, most of us view as a handcrafted, beautiful object. It is
> CERTAINLY NOT TRASH !
> Keep up the good work !
> Ed Trevillian
>
> On Wed, Feb 21, 2024, 11:59 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Thank you Bill.
>
> Taking photo's of a white bone handle doesn't always come out well in the
> photos.
> And in truth, the indexing gear slipped so my flutes are off-set. since
> they are next to a rope
> sorta make it work, but if the rope cut was not there, this turning most
> likely would have ended up
> as garbage.  SO the concept, "Form Trash to treasure" ,works for me. ;-)
>
> Have a great day.
>
> C.A.G.[image: Inline image]
>
> On Monday, February 19, 2024 at 11:24:57 PM EST, 
> wrote:
>
>
> Very nice curt I particularly like the lovely even white of the bone,
>  perhaps the flats could be a little more pronounce they are a little hard
> to see
>
> But other than that a A1 job  very nice.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 20, 2024 12:31 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates
>
>
>
> Hey Guys.
>
>
>
> Unless there are some more people talking on this posting, I think I will
> let it drop for the time being.
>
> Today I did another bone turning, that, Over all I am pretty happy with.
>
>
>
> Bye the way, I counted all my Stainless steel templates that I made over
> the last two weeks, I have 14 templates. I was having so much fun, I forgot
> how many that I made. ;-) This bone turning was made form last
>
> Thursday's lunch time break, template.
>
> I roped the center part, and then fluted the two outside beads, and
> leaving the end beads just round.
>
> As I said earlier, I am pretty happy with this one. "Yes" there are some
> small errors in the process but, Perhaps
>
> I am just to picky with my own work?
>
> "O"Well, I'm having fun. ;-) Another one down, appx. 30 more blanks left
> to do before I run out of bone disks.
>
>
>
> Have a good night everyone.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Sunday, February 18, 2024 at 09:50:10 PM EST, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Had the same problem today and yesterday. Tax time and boy its hectic.
> uffda.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 18, 2024 at 4:16 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Thank you Bill
>
>
>
> I got some time in the shop this afternoon. (between grocery shopping and
> laundry. I hate when LIFE get in the way of my wants. ) ;-)
>
>
>
> More life stuff now.
>
> talk to you more latter.
>
>
>
> here are the pix.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Sunday, February 18, 2024 at 05:10:38 PM EST, 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Yes very nice video on template following that one an option of the legacy
> quite often overlooked
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, February 19, 2024 3:45 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates
>
>
>
> Hello Everyone.
>
> I took these photo's out of a Wood Chuck training video, named Profile
> following. They show the template follower being used to make

Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates

['Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills]

 Thank you all for the kind words.
Tim. this was made form the stainless steel template.  So I will keep it here.
I said that I would let this topic rest for the time being. So this should be 
the last posting on this topic for a while.
Have a good night everyone.
C.A.G.
On Wednesday, February 21, 2024 at 05:45:43 PM EST, Ed Trevillian 
 wrote:  
 
 Curt,That looks like a very finely crafted handle to me. Perhaps what you see 
as a flaw, most of us view as a handcrafted, beautiful object. It is CERTAINLY 
NOT TRASH !Keep up the good work !Ed Trevillian
On Wed, Feb 21, 2024, 11:59 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 wrote:

 Thank you Bill.
Taking photo's of a white bone handle doesn't always come out well in the 
photos.And in truth, the indexing gear slipped so my flutes are off-set. since 
they are next to a ropesorta make it work, but if the rope cut was not there, 
this turning most  likely would have ended up as garbage.  SO the concept, 
"Form Trash to treasure" ,works for me. ;-)
Have a great day.
C.A.G.

On Monday, February 19, 2024 at 11:24:57 PM EST,  
wrote:  
 
 
Very nice curt I particularly like the lovely even white of the bone,  perhaps 
the flats could be a little more pronounce they are a little hard to see

But other than that a A1 job  very nice.

  

Bill

  

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2024 12:31 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates

  

Hey Guys.

  

Unless there are some more people talking on this posting, I think I will let 
it drop for the time being.

Today I did another bone turning, that, Over all I am pretty happy with.

  

Bye the way, I counted all my Stainless steel templates that I made over the 
last two weeks, I have 14 templates. I was having so much fun, I forgot how 
many that I made. ;-) This bone turning was made form last 

Thursday's lunch time break, template. 

I roped the center part, and then fluted the two outside beads, and leaving the 
end beads just round.

As I said earlier, I am pretty happy with this one. "Yes" there are some small 
errors in the process but, Perhaps 

I am just to picky with my own work?

"O"Well, I'm having fun. ;-) Another one down, appx. 30 more blanks left to do 
before I run out of bone disks. 

  

Have a good night everyone.

  

C.A.G. 

  

On Sunday, February 18, 2024 at 09:50:10 PM EST, Tim Ziegler 
 wrote: 

  

  

Had the same problem today and yesterday. Tax time and boy its hectic. uffda. 




Kind Regards,

  

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

Ziegler Laser Worx LLC

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

  

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

  

  

On Sun, Feb 18, 2024 at 4:16 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 wrote:


Thank you Bill

  

I got some time in the shop this afternoon. (between grocery shopping and 
laundry. I hate when LIFE get in the way of my wants. ) ;-)

  

More life stuff now.

talk to you more latter.

  

here are the pix.

C.A.G.

On Sunday, February 18, 2024 at 05:10:38 PM EST,  wrote: 

  

  

Yes very nice video on template following that one an option of the legacy 
quite often overlooked

 

Bill 

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2024 3:45 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates

 

Hello Everyone.

I took these photo's out of a Wood Chuck training video, named Profile 
following. They show the template follower being used to make these 5 spindles, 
 The neat thing here is they only used one very simple wooden template to make 
all 5 spindles.

The template is just a general guide you can use it to make a copy of the 
original or use for the general profile to make something different. in the 
last photo you can see that all, are different but  share the same basic shape. 
By using different router bits, and cutting concepts (roping or fluting) the 
look can and will change.

The ribbon twist (second for the right in the last photo.) is the most 

dramatic, this cut was made from cutting form the side, using both a large 
straight fluted cutter, and using a LONG Pitch .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkGSMtixW1c=2s  Bill made this video a few 
years back, showing the concept. 

 

Have a good day.

C.A.G.

On Saturday, February 17, 2024 at 06:16:50 PM EST, Curt George 
 wrote: 

 

 

Hey Jeff,

using the template follower on the Legacy is not hard, but you will have to get 
use to cutting from the side of the work, to make the profiles.

Here are a few Legacy Photo's on this concept.

 

C.A.G.

 

On Saturday, February 17, 2024 at 03:03:46 PM EST, Jeff Richmond 
 wrote: 

 

 

Yes, you gave a quick reply within another message but thanks Curt for taking 
the time to provide additional detail. I have not used my Legacy for template 
work but I hope to. 

 

Jeff from

Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates

[cdkr...@gmail.com]

Well, Curt, if there's something wrong with that handle, only you
would know.  Nice recovery and the shape is interesting too!
DanK

On Wednesday, February 21, 2024 at 1:09:21 PM UTC-5 Ken and Diana wrote:

> I think that is beautiful. Thanks for sharing.
> Ken
>
> On Wed, Feb 21, 2024 at 11:59 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>  wrote:
>
>> Thank you Bill.
>>
>> Taking photo's of a white bone handle doesn't always come out well in the 
>> photos.
>> And in truth, the indexing gear slipped so my flutes are off-set. since 
>> they are next to a rope
>> sorta make it work, but if the rope cut was not there, this turning most  
>> likely would have ended up 
>> as garbage.  SO the concept, "Form Trash to treasure" ,works for me. ;-)
>>
>> Have a great day.
>>
>> C.A.G.[image: Inline image]
>>
>> On Monday, February 19, 2024 at 11:24:57 PM EST,  
>> wrote: 
>>
>>
>> Very nice curt I particularly like the lovely even white of the bone, 
>>  perhaps the flats could be a little more pronounce they are a little hard 
>> to see
>>
>> But other than that a A1 job  very nice.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>  
>>
>> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
>> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> 
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 20, 2024 12:31 PM
>> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates
>>
>>  
>>
>> Hey Guys.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Unless there are some more people talking on this posting, I think I will 
>> let it drop for the time being.
>>
>> Today I did another bone turning, that, Over all I am pretty happy with.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Bye the way, I counted all my Stainless steel templates that I made over 
>> the last two weeks, I have 14 templates. I was having so much fun, I forgot 
>> how many that I made. ;-) This bone turning was made form last 
>>
>> Thursday's lunch time break, template. 
>>
>> I roped the center part, and then fluted the two outside beads, and 
>> leaving the end beads just round.
>>
>> As I said earlier, I am pretty happy with this one. "Yes" there are some 
>> small errors in the process but, Perhaps 
>>
>> I am just to picky with my own work?
>>
>> "O"Well, I'm having fun. ;-) Another one down, appx. 30 more blanks left 
>> to do before I run out of bone disks. 
>>
>>  
>>
>> Have a good night everyone.
>>
>>  
>>
>> C.A.G. 
>>
>>  
>>
>> On Sunday, February 18, 2024 at 09:50:10 PM EST, Tim Ziegler <
>> timjz...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> Had the same problem today and yesterday. Tax time and boy its hectic. 
>> uffda. 
>>
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>>  
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>
>> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>>
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>>  
>>
>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>>
>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 18, 2024 at 4:16 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>>  wrote:
>>
>> Thank you Bill
>>
>>  
>>
>> I got some time in the shop this afternoon. (between grocery shopping 
>> and laundry. I hate when LIFE get in the way of my wants. ) ;-)
>>
>>  
>>
>> More life stuff now.
>>
>> talk to you more latter.
>>
>>  
>>
>> here are the pix.
>>
>> C.A.G.
>>
>> On Sunday, February 18, 2024 at 05:10:38 PM EST,  
>> wrote: 
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> Yes very nice video on template following that one an option of the 
>> legacy quite often overlooked
>>
>>  
>>
>> Bill 
>>
>>  
>>
>> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
>> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> 
>> *Sent:* Monday, February 19, 2024 3:45 AM
>> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates
>>
>>  
>>
>> Hello Everyone.
>>
>> I took these photo's out of a Wood Chuck training video, named Profile 
>> following. They show the template follower being used to make these 5 
>> spindles,  The neat thing here is they only used one very simple wooden 
>> template to

RE: New hand made Stainless Steel templates

[bulkeley]

Very nice curt I particularly like the lovely even white of the bone,  perhaps 
the flats could be a little more pronounce they are a little hard to see

But other than that a A1 job  very nice.

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2024 12:31 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates

 

Hey Guys.

 

Unless there are some more people talking on this posting, I think I will let 
it drop for the time being.

Today I did another bone turning, that, Over all I am pretty happy with.

 

Bye the way, I counted all my Stainless steel templates that I made over the 
last two weeks, I have 14 templates. I was having so much fun, I forgot how 
many that I made. ;-) This bone turning was made form last 

Thursday's lunch time break, template. 

I roped the center part, and then fluted the two outside beads, and leaving the 
end beads just round.

As I said earlier, I am pretty happy with this one. "Yes" there are some small 
errors in the process but, Perhaps 

I am just to picky with my own work?

"O"Well, I'm having fun. ;-) Another one down, appx. 30 more blanks left to do 
before I run out of bone disks. 

 

Have a good night everyone.

 

C.A.G. 

 

On Sunday, February 18, 2024 at 09:50:10 PM EST, Tim Ziegler 
mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Had the same problem today and yesterday. Tax time and boy its hectic. uffda. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

Ziegler Laser Worx LLC

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Feb 18, 2024 at 4:16 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

Thank you Bill

 

I got some time in the shop this afternoon. (between grocery shopping and 
laundry. I hate when LIFE get in the way of my wants. ) ;-)

 

More life stuff now.

talk to you more latter.

 

here are the pix.

C.A.G.

On Sunday, February 18, 2024 at 05:10:38 PM EST, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: 

 

 

Yes very nice video on template following that one an option of the legacy 
quite often overlooked

 

Bill 

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2024 3:45 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates

 

Hello Everyone.

I took these photo's out of a Wood Chuck training video, named Profile 
following. They show the template follower being used to make these 5 spindles, 
 The neat thing here is they only used one very simple wooden template to make 
all 5 spindles.

The template is just a general guide you can use it to make a copy of the 
original or use for the general profile to make something different. in the 
last photo you can see that all, are different but  share the same basic shape. 
By using different router bits, and cutting concepts (roping or fluting) the 
look can and will change.

The ribbon twist (second for the right in the last photo.) is the most 

dramatic, this cut was made from cutting form the side, using both a large 
straight fluted cutter, and using a LONG Pitch .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkGSMtixW1c 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkGSMtixW1c=2s> =2s  Bill made this video 
a few years back, showing the concept. 

 

Have a good day.

C.A.G.

On Saturday, February 17, 2024 at 06:16:50 PM EST, Curt George 
mailto:curt.geo...@yahoo.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Hey Jeff,

using the template follower on the Legacy is not hard, but you will have to get 
use to cutting from the side of the work, to make the profiles.

Here are a few Legacy Photo's on this concept.

 

C.A.G.

 

On Saturday, February 17, 2024 at 03:03:46 PM EST, Jeff Richmond 
mailto:jtrichmo...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Yes, you gave a quick reply within another message but thanks Curt for taking 
the time to provide additional detail. I have not used my Legacy for template 
work but I hope to. 

 

Jeff from Connecticut 

Sent from my iPhone

 

On Feb 17, 2024, at 12:16 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

Hello Jeff, I thought I replied to you, but after looking an this posting I 
can find the reply.  

Depending on which machine I am using.  both of my Legacy's use a ball bearing 
set ,1/2" as the follower.

My lathe uses different shaped followers depending on the cutter that I am 
using. 

As I see it the Lathe is for exact coping/fine details, where the Legacy is for 
just basic shapes. details can be

added with the Legacy, but those details are done with the router bits profile. 
so as long as my templates are true

to the spindle, they do not need to be beyond just basic 

Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates

[Tim Ziegler]

yup sounds good Curt it went on long enough.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Feb 19, 2024 at 7:30 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hey Guys.
>
> Unless there are some more people talking on this posting, I think I will
> let it drop for the time being.
> Today I did another bone turning, that, Over all I am pretty happy with.
>
> Bye the way, I counted all my Stainless steel templates that I made over
> the last two weeks, I have 14 templates. I was having so much fun, I forgot
> how many that I made. ;-) This bone turning was made form last
> Thursday's lunch time break, template.
> I roped the center part, and then fluted the two outside beads, and
> leaving the end beads just round.
> As I said earlier, I am pretty happy with this one. "Yes" there are some
> small errors in the process but, Perhaps
> I am just to picky with my own work?
> "O"Well, I'm having fun. ;-) Another one down, appx. 30 more blanks left
> to do before I run out of bone disks.
>
> Have a good night everyone.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Sunday, February 18, 2024 at 09:50:10 PM EST, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Had the same problem today and yesterday. Tax time and boy its hectic.
> uffda.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 18, 2024 at 4:16 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Thank you Bill
>
> I got some time in the shop this afternoon. (between grocery shopping and
> laundry. I hate when LIFE get in the way of my wants. ) ;-)
>
> More life stuff now.
> talk to you more latter.
>
> here are the pix.
> C.A.G.
> On Sunday, February 18, 2024 at 05:10:38 PM EST, 
> wrote:
>
>
> Yes very nice video on template following that one an option of the legacy
> quite often overlooked
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, February 19, 2024 3:45 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates
>
>
>
> Hello Everyone.
>
> I took these photo's out of a Wood Chuck training video, named Profile
> following. They show the template follower being used to make these 5
> spindles,  The neat thing here is they only used one very simple wooden
> template to make all 5 spindles.
>
> The template is just a general guide you can use it to make a copy of the
> original or use for the general profile to make something different. in the
> last photo you can see that all, are different but  share the same basic
> shape. By using different router bits, and cutting concepts (roping or
> fluting) the look can and will change.
>
> The ribbon twist (second for the right in the last photo.) is the most
>
> dramatic, this cut was made from cutting form the side, using both a large
> straight fluted cutter, and using a LONG Pitch .
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkGSMtixW1c=2s  Bill made this video a
> few years back, showing the concept.
>
>
>
> Have a good day.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Saturday, February 17, 2024 at 06:16:50 PM EST, Curt George <
> curt.geo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Hey Jeff,
>
> using the template follower on the Legacy is not hard, but you will have
> to get use to cutting from the side of the work, to make the profiles.
>
> Here are a few Legacy Photo's on this concept.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Saturday, February 17, 2024 at 03:03:46 PM EST, Jeff Richmond <
> jtrichmo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Yes, you gave a quick reply within another message but thanks Curt for
> taking the time to provide additional detail. I have not used my Legacy for
> template work but I hope to.
>
>
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>
> On Feb 17, 2024, at 12:16 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hello Jeff, I thought I replied to you, but after looking an this
> posting I can find the reply.
>
> Depending on which machine I am using.  both of my Legacy's use a ball
> bearing set ,1/2" as the follower.
>
> My lathe uses different shaped followers depending on 

Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates

[M.W.Foscue]

Very nice, Curtis.
It looks like a piece of ivory.

Thanks for sharing.
Mac
-Original Message-
From: 
Sent: Feb 19, 2024 8:30 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates

Hey Guys.
 
Unless there are some more people talking on this posting, I think I will let 
it drop for the time being.
Today I did another bone turning, that, Over all I am pretty happy with.
 
Bye the way, I counted all my Stainless steel templates that I made over the 
last two weeks, I have 14 templates. I was having so much fun, I forgot how 
many that I made. ;-) This bone turning was made form last 
Thursday's lunch time break, template. 
I roped the center part, and then fluted the two outside beads, and leaving the 
end beads just round.
As I said earlier, I am pretty happy with this one. "Yes" there are some small 
errors in the process but, Perhaps 
I am just to picky with my own work?
"O"Well, I'm having fun. ;-) Another one down, appx. 30 more blanks left to do 
before I run out of bone disks. 
 
Have a good night everyone.
 
C.A.G.
On Sunday, February 18, 2024 at 09:50:10 PM EST, Tim Ziegler 
 wrote:

 
 
Had the same problem today and yesterday. Tax time and boy its hectic. uffda. 
Kind Regards, 
Timothy J. Ziegler
On Sun, Feb 18, 2024 at 4:16 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)> wrote:





 
Thank you Bill
 
I got some time in the shop this afternoon. (between grocery shopping and 
laundry. I hate when LIFE get in the way of my wants. ) ;-)
 
More life stuff now.
talk to you more latter.
 
here are the pix.
C.A.G.

On Sunday, February 18, 2024 at 05:10:38 PM EST, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au)> wrote:
 
Yes very nice video on template following that one an option of the legacy 
quite often overlooked
  
Bill 
From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)> Sent: Monday, February 19, 
2024 3:45 AMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
(mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)Subject: Re: New hand made 
Stainless Steel templates

Hello Everyone.

I took these photo's out of a Wood Chuck training video, named Profile 
following. They show the template follower being used to make these 5 spindles, 
 The neat thing here is they only used one very simple wooden template to make 
all 5 spindles.

The template is just a general guide you can use it to make a copy of the 
original or use for the general profile to make something different. in the 
last photo you can see that all, are different but  share the same basic shape. 
By using different router bits, and cutting concepts (roping or fluting) the 
look can and will change.

The ribbon twist (second for the right in the last photo.) is the most 

dramatic, this cut was made from cutting form the side, using both a large 
straight fluted cutter, and using a LONG Pitch .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkGSMtixW1ct=2s  Bill made this video a 
few years back, showing the concept. 

  

Have a good day.

C.A.G.



On Saturday, February 17, 2024 at 06:16:50 PM EST, Curt George 
mailto:curt.geo...@yahoo.com)> wrote: 

  

Hey Jeff,

using the template follower on the Legacy is not hard, but you will have to get 
use to cutting from the side of the work, to make the profiles.

Here are a few Legacy Photo's on this concept.

  

C.A.G.

  


On Saturday, February 17, 2024 at 03:03:46 PM EST, Jeff Richmond 
mailto:jtrichmo...@gmail.com)> wrote: 

  

  

Yes, you gave a quick reply within another message but thanks Curt for taking 
the time to provide additional detail. I have not used my Legacy for template 
work but I hope to. 
  

Jeff from Connecticut 


On Feb 17, 2024, at 12:16 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)> wrote:

Hello Jeff, I thought I replied to you, but after looking an this posting I can 
find the reply.  
Depending on which machine I am using.  both of my Legacy's use a ball bearing 
set ,1/2" as the follower.

My lathe uses different shaped followers depending on the cutter that I am 
using. 

As I see it the Lathe is for exact coping/fine details, where the Legacy is for 
just basic shapes. details can be

added with the Legacy, but those details are done with the router bits profile. 
so as long as my templates are true

to the spindle, they do not need to be beyond just basic shapes.

Note: having said that, I use both machine together on most of my projects.

  

At this time, I am using my 200 more then my 1000,  This is because of two 
reasons. First the 200 is made for smaller

turnings, I can cut/rope finer on my 200 then I can do on my 1000 ( note: not 
only size, but the 200 has a finer acme screw drive. 5/8-8 and the 

1000 has a 5/8-4 acmes screw.) But for larger turnings 1000 is the king of the 
shop. and for very large turnings the lathe is the master. 

(I

Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates

[Tim Ziegler]

Had the same problem today and yesterday. Tax time and boy its hectic.
uffda.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Feb 18, 2024 at 4:16 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Thank you Bill
>
> I got some time in the shop this afternoon. (between grocery shopping and
> laundry. I hate when LIFE get in the way of my wants. ) ;-)
>
> More life stuff now.
> talk to you more latter.
>
> here are the pix.
> C.A.G.
> On Sunday, February 18, 2024 at 05:10:38 PM EST, 
> wrote:
>
>
> Yes very nice video on template following that one an option of the legacy
> quite often overlooked
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, February 19, 2024 3:45 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates
>
>
>
> Hello Everyone.
>
> I took these photo's out of a Wood Chuck training video, named Profile
> following. They show the template follower being used to make these 5
> spindles,  The neat thing here is they only used one very simple wooden
> template to make all 5 spindles.
>
> The template is just a general guide you can use it to make a copy of the
> original or use for the general profile to make something different. in the
> last photo you can see that all, are different but  share the same basic
> shape. By using different router bits, and cutting concepts (roping or
> fluting) the look can and will change.
>
> The ribbon twist (second for the right in the last photo.) is the most
>
> dramatic, this cut was made from cutting form the side, using both a large
> straight fluted cutter, and using a LONG Pitch .
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkGSMtixW1c=2s  Bill made this video a
> few years back, showing the concept.
>
>
>
> Have a good day.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Saturday, February 17, 2024 at 06:16:50 PM EST, Curt George <
> curt.geo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Hey Jeff,
>
> using the template follower on the Legacy is not hard, but you will have
> to get use to cutting from the side of the work, to make the profiles.
>
> Here are a few Legacy Photo's on this concept.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Saturday, February 17, 2024 at 03:03:46 PM EST, Jeff Richmond <
> jtrichmo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Yes, you gave a quick reply within another message but thanks Curt for
> taking the time to provide additional detail. I have not used my Legacy for
> template work but I hope to.
>
>
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>
> On Feb 17, 2024, at 12:16 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hello Jeff, I thought I replied to you, but after looking an this
> posting I can find the reply.
>
> Depending on which machine I am using.  both of my Legacy's use a ball
> bearing set ,1/2" as the follower.
>
> My lathe uses different shaped followers depending on the cutter that I am
> using.
>
> As I see it the Lathe is for exact coping/fine details, where the Legacy
> is for just basic shapes. details can be
>
> added with the Legacy, but those details are done with the router bits
> profile. so as long as my templates are true
>
> to the spindle, they do not need to be beyond just basic shapes.
>
> Note: having said that, I use both machine together on most of my projects.
>
>
>
> At this time, I am using my 200 more then my 1000,  This is because of two
> reasons. First the 200 is made for smaller
>
> turnings, I can cut/rope finer on my 200 then I can do on my 1000 ( note:
> not only size, but the 200 has a finer acme screw drive. 5/8-8 and the
>
> 1000 has a 5/8-4 acmes screw.) But for larger turnings 1000 is the king of
> the shop. and for very large turnings the lathe is the master.
>
> (I can turn up to 8' on my lathe)  BUT having said that, for what I
> normally do/make in the shop I can use and do use all my tool together to
> get
>
> the best quality of workmanship as I can.
>
> I hope this helps explain what I am doing, and answers your questions.
>
>
>
> I made another 4 templates over the last two days.
>
> If I can get my shop wormed up today, I hope to be able to be able to play
> with some of these new templates.
>
> Wish me luck. ;-)   and talk to you more later.
>
>
>
> NOTE: I am adding two pix. of my fine

RE: New hand made Stainless Steel templates

[bulkeley]

Yes another good templet video such a shame legacy took them all down from 
their sight years ago

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2024 4:49 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates

 

Sorry guys, Hit the send button by mistake.  Here are the photos.

C.A.G.

 

On Sunday, February 18, 2024 at 12:44:26 PM EST, Curt George 
mailto:curt.geo...@yahoo.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Thanks Tim.

 

I just made a few more pix. for another Legacy video. On template and pen 
making.

I think I will let the photo's talk for them-selfs. ;-)

 

more latter.

 

C.A.G.

 

On Sunday, February 18, 2024 at 12:29:41 PM EST, Tim Ziegler 
mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Very good illustrations Curt and Bill. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

Ziegler Laser Worx LLC

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Feb 18, 2024 at 10:45 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

Hello Everyone.

I took these photo's out of a Wood Chuck training video, named Profile 
following. They show the template follower being used to make these 5 spindles, 
 The neat thing here is they only used one very simple wooden template to make 
all 5 spindles.

The template is just a general guide you can use it to make a copy of the 
original or use for the general profile to make something different. in the 
last photo you can see that all, are different but  share the same basic shape. 
By using different router bits, and cutting concepts (roping or fluting) the 
look can and will change.

The ribbon twist (second for the right in the last photo.) is the most 

dramatic, this cut was made from cutting form the side, using both a large 
straight fluted cutter, and using a LONG Pitch .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkGSMtixW1c 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkGSMtixW1c=2s> =2s  Bill made this video 
a few years back, showing the concept. 

 

Have a good day.

C.A.G.

On Saturday, February 17, 2024 at 06:16:50 PM EST, Curt George 
mailto:curt.geo...@yahoo.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Hey Jeff,

using the template follower on the Legacy is not hard, but you will have to get 
use to cutting from the side of the work, to make the profiles.

Here are a few Legacy Photo's on this concept.

 

C.A.G.

 

On Saturday, February 17, 2024 at 03:03:46 PM EST, Jeff Richmond 
mailto:jtrichmo...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Yes, you gave a quick reply within another message but thanks Curt for taking 
the time to provide additional detail. I have not used my Legacy for template 
work but I hope to. 

 

Jeff from Connecticut 

Sent from my iPhone





On Feb 17, 2024, at 12:16 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

Hello Jeff, I thought I replied to you, but after looking an this posting I 
can find the reply.  

Depending on which machine I am using.  both of my Legacy's use a ball bearing 
set ,1/2" as the follower.

My lathe uses different shaped followers depending on the cutter that I am 
using. 

As I see it the Lathe is for exact coping/fine details, where the Legacy is for 
just basic shapes. details can be

added with the Legacy, but those details are done with the router bits profile. 
so as long as my templates are true

to the spindle, they do not need to be beyond just basic shapes.

Note: having said that, I use both machine together on most of my projects.

 

At this time, I am using my 200 more then my 1000,  This is because of two 
reasons. First the 200 is made for smaller

turnings, I can cut/rope finer on my 200 then I can do on my 1000 ( note: not 
only size, but the 200 has a finer acme screw drive. 5/8-8 and the 

1000 has a 5/8-4 acmes screw.) But for larger turnings 1000 is the king of the 
shop. and for very large turnings the lathe is the master. 

(I can turn up to 8' on my lathe)  BUT having said that, for what I normally 
do/make in the shop I can use and do use all my tool together to get 

the best quality of workmanship as I can.

I hope this helps explain what I am doing, and answers your questions. 

 

I made another 4 templates over the last two days.

If I can get my shop wormed up today, I hope to be able to be able to play with 
some of these new templates.

Wish me luck. ;-)   and talk to you more later.

 

NOTE: I am adding two pix. of my fine adjustment/template follower that I made 
for my 200

 

Have a good day.

 

C.A.G.

On Monday, February 12, 2024 at 8:10:35 AM UTC-5 jtric...@gmail.com 
<mailto:jtric...@gmail.com>  wrote:

Nice, thanks for sharing Curt.

 

What do you use for a stylus to contact the template?

 

Jeff from Connecticut 

Sent from my iPhone





On Feb 12, 2024, at 12:44 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy

RE: New hand made Stainless Steel templates

[bulkeley]

Yes very nice video on template following that one an option of the legacy 
quite often overlooked

 

Bill 

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2024 3:45 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates

 

Hello Everyone.

I took these photo's out of a Wood Chuck training video, named Profile 
following. They show the template follower being used to make these 5 spindles, 
 The neat thing here is they only used one very simple wooden template to make 
all 5 spindles.

The template is just a general guide you can use it to make a copy of the 
original or use for the general profile to make something different. in the 
last photo you can see that all, are different but  share the same basic shape. 
By using different router bits, and cutting concepts (roping or fluting) the 
look can and will change.

The ribbon twist (second for the right in the last photo.) is the most 

dramatic, this cut was made from cutting form the side, using both a large 
straight fluted cutter, and using a LONG Pitch .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkGSMtixW1c 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkGSMtixW1c=2s> =2s  Bill made this video 
a few years back, showing the concept. 

 

Have a good day.

C.A.G.

On Saturday, February 17, 2024 at 06:16:50 PM EST, Curt George 
mailto:curt.geo...@yahoo.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Hey Jeff,

using the template follower on the Legacy is not hard, but you will have to get 
use to cutting from the side of the work, to make the profiles.

Here are a few Legacy Photo's on this concept.

 

C.A.G.

 

On Saturday, February 17, 2024 at 03:03:46 PM EST, Jeff Richmond 
mailto:jtrichmo...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Yes, you gave a quick reply within another message but thanks Curt for taking 
the time to provide additional detail. I have not used my Legacy for template 
work but I hope to. 

 

Jeff from Connecticut 

Sent from my iPhone





On Feb 17, 2024, at 12:16 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

Hello Jeff, I thought I replied to you, but after looking an this posting I 
can find the reply.  

Depending on which machine I am using.  both of my Legacy's use a ball bearing 
set ,1/2" as the follower.

My lathe uses different shaped followers depending on the cutter that I am 
using. 

As I see it the Lathe is for exact coping/fine details, where the Legacy is for 
just basic shapes. details can be

added with the Legacy, but those details are done with the router bits profile. 
so as long as my templates are true

to the spindle, they do not need to be beyond just basic shapes.

Note: having said that, I use both machine together on most of my projects.

 

At this time, I am using my 200 more then my 1000,  This is because of two 
reasons. First the 200 is made for smaller

turnings, I can cut/rope finer on my 200 then I can do on my 1000 ( note: not 
only size, but the 200 has a finer acme screw drive. 5/8-8 and the 

1000 has a 5/8-4 acmes screw.) But for larger turnings 1000 is the king of the 
shop. and for very large turnings the lathe is the master. 

(I can turn up to 8' on my lathe)  BUT having said that, for what I normally 
do/make in the shop I can use and do use all my tool together to get 

the best quality of workmanship as I can.

I hope this helps explain what I am doing, and answers your questions. 

 

I made another 4 templates over the last two days.

If I can get my shop wormed up today, I hope to be able to be able to play with 
some of these new templates.

Wish me luck. ;-)   and talk to you more later.

 

NOTE: I am adding two pix. of my fine adjustment/template follower that I made 
for my 200

 

Have a good day.

 

C.A.G.

On Monday, February 12, 2024 at 8:10:35 AM UTC-5 jtric...@gmail.com 
<mailto:jtric...@gmail.com>  wrote:

Nice, thanks for sharing Curt.

 

What do you use for a stylus to contact the template?

 

Jeff from Connecticut 

Sent from my iPhone





On Feb 12, 2024, at 12:44 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> > 
wrote:



Hello  Everyone.

 

I had some free time today, so I made these templates for my Legacy, Only one 
has been tested so far, but I do think most of these should work well for my 
uses.

 

I can use these templates on All of my wood working equipment, both of my 
Legacy's as well the lathes I own.

 

Note: I see and use templates not as the final part of turning, but as a 
general guide for basic shaping of my spindles.

 

Making stainless steel templates is not all that hard, by using an abrasive 
cutting wheel, and some hand files + a wire wheel to remove any burs...  the 
process is pretty easy. (If anyone wants to know more, Please ask.)

Tomorrow I hope to be able to try some of these out on some of my bone turning.

Have a good night everyone.

 

C.A.G.

-

Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates

[Ccm Ccm]

Very nice

On Sunday, February 18, 2024, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Sorry guys, Hit the send button by mistake.  Here are the photos.
> C.A.G.
>
> On Sunday, February 18, 2024 at 12:44:26 PM EST, Curt George <
> curt.geo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> Thanks Tim.
>
> I just made a few more pix. for another Legacy video. On template and pen
> making.
> I think I will let the photo's talk for them-selfs. ;-)
>
> more latter.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Sunday, February 18, 2024 at 12:29:41 PM EST, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Very good illustrations Curt and Bill.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
> 14171 160th Ave.
> 
> Foreston MN 56330
> 
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 18, 2024 at 10:45 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
>  wrote:
>
> Hello Everyone.
> I took these photo's out of a Wood Chuck training video, named Profile
> following. They show the template follower being used to make these 5
> spindles,  The neat thing here is they only used one very simple wooden
> template to make all 5 spindles.
> The template is just a general guide you can use it to make a copy of the
> original or use for the general profile to make something different. in the
> last photo you can see that all, are different but  share the same basic
> shape. By using different router bits, and cutting concepts (roping or
> fluting) the look can and will change.
> The ribbon twist (second for the right in the last photo.) is the most
> dramatic, this cut was made from cutting form the side, using both a large
> straight fluted cutter, and using a LONG Pitch .
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkGSMtixW1c=2s  Bill made this video a
> few years back, showing the concept.
>
> Have a good day.
> C.A.G.
> On Saturday, February 17, 2024 at 06:16:50 PM EST, Curt George <
> curt.geo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hey Jeff,
> using the template follower on the Legacy is not hard, but you will have
> to get use to cutting from the side of the work, to make the profiles.
> Here are a few Legacy Photo's on this concept.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Saturday, February 17, 2024 at 03:03:46 PM EST, Jeff Richmond <
> jtrichmo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Yes, you gave a quick reply within another message but thanks Curt for
> taking the time to provide additional detail. I have not used my Legacy for
> template work but I hope to.
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 17, 2024, at 12:16 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hello Jeff, I thought I replied to you, but after looking an this posting
> I can find the reply.
> Depending on which machine I am using.  both of my Legacy's use a ball
> bearing set ,1/2" as the follower.
> My lathe uses different shaped followers depending on the cutter that I am
> using.
> As I see it the Lathe is for exact coping/fine details, where the Legacy
> is for just basic shapes. details can be
> added with the Legacy, but those details are done with the router bits
> profile. so as long as my templates are true
> to the spindle, they do not need to be beyond just basic shapes.
> Note: having said that, I use both machine together on most of my projects.
>
> At this time, I am using my 200 more then my 1000,  This is because of two
> reasons. First the 200 is made for smaller
> turnings, I can cut/rope finer on my 200 then I can do on my 1000 ( note:
> not only size, but the 200 has a finer acme screw drive. 5/8-8 and the
> 1000 has a 5/8-4 acmes screw.) But for larger turnings 1000 is the king of
> the shop. and for very large turnings the lathe is the master.
> (I can turn up to 8' on my lathe)  BUT having said that, for what I
> normally do/make in the shop I can use and do use all my tool together to
> get
> the best quality of workmanship as I can.
> I hope this helps explain what I am doing, and answers your questions.
>
> I made another 4 templates over the last two days.
> If I can get my shop wormed up today, I hope to be able to be able to play
> with some of these new templates.
> Wish me luck. ;-)   and talk to you more later.
>
> NOTE: I am adding two pix. of my fine adjustment/template follower that I
> made for my 200
>
> Have a good day.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Monday, February 12, 2024 at 8:10:35 AM UTC-5 jtric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Nice, thanks for sharing Curt.
>
> What do you use for a stylus to contact the template?
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 12, 2024, at 12:44 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> 
>
> Hello  Everyone.
>
> I had some free time today, so I made these templates for my Legacy, Only

Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates

['Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills]

 Thanks Tim.
I just made a few more pix. for another Legacy video. On template and pen 
making.I think I will let the photo's talk for them-selfs. ;-)
more latter.
C.A.G.
On Sunday, February 18, 2024 at 12:29:41 PM EST, Tim Ziegler 
 wrote:  
 
 Very good illustrations Curt and Bill. 
Kind Regards,
Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & SpecialtyZiegler Laser Worx LLC14171 160th 
Ave.Foreston MN 56330
320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell

On Sun, Feb 18, 2024 at 10:45 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 wrote:

 Hello Everyone.I took these photo's out of a Wood Chuck training video, named 
Profile following. They show the template follower being used to make these 5 
spindles,  The neat thing here is they only used one very simple wooden 
template to make all 5 spindles.The template is just a general guide you can 
use it to make a copy of the original or use for the general profile to make 
something different. in the last photo you can see that all, are different but  
share the same basic shape. By using different router bits, and cutting 
concepts (roping or fluting) the look can and will change.The ribbon twist 
(second for the right in the last photo.) is the most dramatic, this cut was 
made from cutting form the side, using both a large straight fluted cutter, and 
using a LONG Pitch .https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkGSMtixW1c=2s  Bill made 
this video a few years back, showing the concept. 

Have a good day.C.A.G.On Saturday, February 17, 2024 at 06:16:50 PM EST, 
Curt George  wrote:  
 
  Hey Jeff,using the template follower on the Legacy is not hard, but you will 
have to get use to cutting from the side of the work, to make the profiles.Here 
are a few Legacy Photo's on this concept.
C.A.G.
On Saturday, February 17, 2024 at 03:03:46 PM EST, Jeff Richmond 
 wrote:  
 
 Yes, you gave a quick reply within another message but thanks Curt for taking 
the time to provide additional detail. I have not used my Legacy for template 
work but I hope to. 
Jeff from Connecticut 
Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 17, 2024, at 12:16 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 wrote:



Hello Jeff, I thought I replied to you, but after looking an this posting I 
can find the reply.  Depending on which machine I am using.  both of my 
Legacy's use a ball bearing set ,1/2" as the follower.My lathe uses different 
shaped followers depending on the cutter that I am using. As I see it the Lathe 
is for exact coping/fine details, where the Legacy is for just basic shapes. 
details can beadded with the Legacy, but those details are done with the router 
bits profile. so as long as my templates are trueto the spindle, they do not 
need to be beyond just basic shapes.Note: having said that, I use both machine 
together on most of my projects.
At this time, I am using my 200 more then my 1000,  This is because of two 
reasons. First the 200 is made for smallerturnings, I can cut/rope finer on my 
200 then I can do on my 1000 ( note: not only size, but the 200 has a finer 
acme screw drive. 5/8-8 and the 1000 has a 5/8-4 acmes screw.) But for larger 
turnings 1000 is the king of the shop. and for very large turnings the lathe is 
the master. (I can turn up to 8' on my lathe)  BUT having said that, for what I 
normally do/make in the shop I can use and do use all my tool together to get 
the best quality of workmanship as I can.I hope this helps explain what I am 
doing, and answers your questions. 
I made another 4 templates over the last two days.If I can get my shop wormed 
up today, I hope to be able to be able to play with some of these new 
templates.Wish me luck. ;-)   and talk to you more later.
NOTE: I am adding two pix. of my fine adjustment/template follower that I made 
for my 200
Have a good day.

C.A.G.

On Monday, February 12, 2024 at 8:10:35 AM UTC-5 jtric...@gmail.com wrote:

Nice, thanks for sharing Curt.
What do you use for a stylus to contact the template?
Jeff from Connecticut 
Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 12, 2024, at 12:44 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 wrote:





Hello  Everyone.
I had some free time today, so I made these templates for my Legacy, Only one 
has been tested so far, but I do think most of these should work well for my 
uses.
I can use these templates on All of my wood working equipment, both of my 
Legacy's as well the lathes I own.
Note: I see and use templates not as the final part of turning, but as a 
general guide for basic shaping of my spindles.
Making stainless steel templates is not all that hard, by using an abrasive 
cutting wheel, and some hand files + a wire wheel to remove any burs...  the 
process is pretty easy. (If anyone wants to know more, Please ask.)Tomorrow I 
hope to be able to try some of these out on some of my bone turning.Have a good 
night everyone.
C.A.G.



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Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates

[Tim Ziegler]

Very good illustrations Curt and Bill.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Feb 18, 2024 at 10:45 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hello Everyone.
> I took these photo's out of a Wood Chuck training video, named Profile
> following. They show the template follower being used to make these 5
> spindles,  The neat thing here is they only used one very simple wooden
> template to make all 5 spindles.
> The template is just a general guide you can use it to make a copy of the
> original or use for the general profile to make something different. in the
> last photo you can see that all, are different but  share the same basic
> shape. By using different router bits, and cutting concepts (roping or
> fluting) the look can and will change.
> The ribbon twist (second for the right in the last photo.) is the most
> dramatic, this cut was made from cutting form the side, using both a large
> straight fluted cutter, and using a LONG Pitch .
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkGSMtixW1c=2s  Bill made this video a
> few years back, showing the concept.
>
> Have a good day.
> C.A.G.
> On Saturday, February 17, 2024 at 06:16:50 PM EST, Curt George <
> curt.geo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hey Jeff,
> using the template follower on the Legacy is not hard, but you will have
> to get use to cutting from the side of the work, to make the profiles.
> Here are a few Legacy Photo's on this concept.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Saturday, February 17, 2024 at 03:03:46 PM EST, Jeff Richmond <
> jtrichmo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Yes, you gave a quick reply within another message but thanks Curt for
> taking the time to provide additional detail. I have not used my Legacy for
> template work but I hope to.
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 17, 2024, at 12:16 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hello Jeff, I thought I replied to you, but after looking an this posting
> I can find the reply.
> Depending on which machine I am using.  both of my Legacy's use a ball
> bearing set ,1/2" as the follower.
> My lathe uses different shaped followers depending on the cutter that I am
> using.
> As I see it the Lathe is for exact coping/fine details, where the Legacy
> is for just basic shapes. details can be
> added with the Legacy, but those details are done with the router bits
> profile. so as long as my templates are true
> to the spindle, they do not need to be beyond just basic shapes.
> Note: having said that, I use both machine together on most of my projects.
>
> At this time, I am using my 200 more then my 1000,  This is because of two
> reasons. First the 200 is made for smaller
> turnings, I can cut/rope finer on my 200 then I can do on my 1000 ( note:
> not only size, but the 200 has a finer acme screw drive. 5/8-8 and the
> 1000 has a 5/8-4 acmes screw.) But for larger turnings 1000 is the king of
> the shop. and for very large turnings the lathe is the master.
> (I can turn up to 8' on my lathe)  BUT having said that, for what I
> normally do/make in the shop I can use and do use all my tool together to
> get
> the best quality of workmanship as I can.
> I hope this helps explain what I am doing, and answers your questions.
>
> I made another 4 templates over the last two days.
> If I can get my shop wormed up today, I hope to be able to be able to play
> with some of these new templates.
> Wish me luck. ;-)   and talk to you more later.
>
> NOTE: I am adding two pix. of my fine adjustment/template follower that I
> made for my 200
>
> Have a good day.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Monday, February 12, 2024 at 8:10:35 AM UTC-5 jtric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Nice, thanks for sharing Curt.
>
> What do you use for a stylus to contact the template?
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 12, 2024, at 12:44 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> 
>
> Hello  Everyone.
>
> I had some free time today, so I made these templates for my Legacy, Only
> one has been tested so far, but I do think most of these should work well
> for my uses.
>
> I can use these templates on All of my wood working equipment, both of my
> Legacy's as well the lathes I own.
>
> Note: I see and use templates not as the final part of turning, but as a
> general guide for basic shaping of my spindles.
>
> Making stainless steel templates is not all that hard, by using an
> abrasive cutting wheel, and some hand files + a wire wheel to remove any
> burs...  the process is pretty easy. (If anyone wants to know more, Please
> ask.)
> Tomorrow I hope to be able to try some of these out on some of my bone
> turning.
> Have a good night everyone.
>
> C.A.G.
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Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates

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Yes, you gave a quick reply within another message but thanks Curt for taking the time to provide additional detail. I have not used my Legacy for template work but I hope to. Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Feb 17, 2024, at 12:16 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:Hello Jeff, I thought I replied to you, but after looking an this posting I can find the reply.  Depending on which machine I am using.  both of my Legacy's use a ball bearing set ,1/2" as the follower.My lathe uses different shaped followers depending on the cutter that I am using. As I see it the Lathe is for exact coping/fine details, where the Legacy is for just basic shapes. details can beadded with the Legacy, but those details are done with the router bits profile. so as long as my templates are trueto the spindle, they do not need to be beyond just basic shapes.Note: having said that, I use both machine together on most of my projects.At this time, I am using my 200 more then my 1000,  This is because of two reasons. First the 200 is made for smallerturnings, I can cut/rope finer on my 200 then I can do on my 1000 ( note: not only size, but the 200 has a finer acme screw drive. 5/8-8 and the 1000 has a 5/8-4 acmes screw.) But for larger turnings 1000 is the king of the shop. and for very large turnings the lathe is the master. (I can turn up to 8' on my lathe)  BUT having said that, for what I normally do/make in the shop I can use and do use all my tool together to get the best quality of workmanship as I can.I hope this helps explain what I am doing, and answers your questions. I made another 4 templates over the last two days.If I can get my shop wormed up today, I hope to be able to be able to play with some of these new templates.Wish me luck. ;-)   and talk to you more later.NOTE: I am adding two pix. of my fine adjustment/template follower that I made for my 200Have a good day.C.A.G.On Monday, February 12, 2024 at 8:10:35 AM UTC-5 jtric...@gmail.com wrote:Nice, thanks for sharing Curt.What do you use for a stylus to contact the template?Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Feb 12, 2024, at 12:44 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:Hello  Everyone.I had some free time today, so I made these templates for my Legacy, Only one has been tested so far, but I do think most of these should work well for my uses.I can use these templates on All of my wood working equipment, both of my Legacy's as well the lathes I own.Note: I see and use templates not as the final part of turning, but as a general guide for basic shaping of my spindles.Making stainless steel templates is not all that hard, by using an abrasive cutting wheel, and some hand files + a wire wheel to remove any burs...  the process is pretty easy. (If anyone wants to know more, Please ask.)Tomorrow I hope to be able to try some of these out on some of my bone turning.Have a good night everyone.C.A.G.



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Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates

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" If I can get my shop wormed up today, I "

and may all your worms be cooperative!  LOL.
DanK
On Saturday, February 17, 2024 at 12:16:42 PM UTC-5 Curt George wrote:

> Hello Jeff, I thought I replied to you, but after looking an this posting 
> I can find the reply.  
> Depending on which machine I am using.  both of my Legacy's use a ball 
> bearing set ,1/2" as the follower.
> My lathe uses different shaped followers depending on the cutter that I am 
> using. 
> As I see it the Lathe is for exact coping/fine details, where the Legacy 
> is for just basic shapes. details can be
> added with the Legacy, but those details are done with the router bits 
> profile. so as long as my templates are true
> to the spindle, they do not need to be beyond just basic shapes.
> Note: having said that, I use both machine together on most of my projects.
>
> At this time, I am using my 200 more then my 1000,  This is because of two 
> reasons. First the 200 is made for smaller
> turnings, I can cut/rope finer on my 200 then I can do on my 1000 ( note: 
> not only size, but the 200 has a finer acme screw drive. 5/8-8 and the 
> 1000 has a 5/8-4 acmes screw.) But for larger turnings 1000 is the king of 
> the shop. and for very large turnings the lathe is the master. 
> (I can turn up to 8' on my lathe)  BUT having said that, for what I 
> normally do/make in the shop I can use and do use all my tool together to 
> get 
> the best quality of workmanship as I can.
> I hope this helps explain what I am doing, and answers your questions. 
>
> I made another 4 templates over the last two days.
> If I can get my shop wormed up today, I hope to be able to be able to play 
> with some of these new templates.
> Wish me luck. ;-)   and talk to you more later.
>
> NOTE: I am adding two pix. of my fine adjustment/template follower that I 
> made for my 200
>
> Have a good day.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Monday, February 12, 2024 at 8:10:35 AM UTC-5 jtric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Nice, thanks for sharing Curt.
>>
>> What do you use for a stylus to contact the template?
>>
>> Jeff from Connecticut 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Feb 12, 2024, at 12:44 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
>> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Hello  Everyone.
>>
>> I had some free time today, so I made these templates for my Legacy, Only 
>> one has been tested so far, but I do think most of these should work well 
>> for my uses.
>>
>> I can use these templates on All of my wood working equipment, both of my 
>> Legacy's as well the lathes I own.
>>
>> Note: I see and use templates not as the final part of turning, but as a 
>> general guide for basic shaping of my spindles.
>>
>> Making stainless steel templates is not all that hard, by using an 
>> abrasive cutting wheel, and some hand files + a wire wheel to remove any 
>> burs...  the process is pretty easy. (If anyone wants to know more, Please 
>> ask.)
>> Tomorrow I hope to be able to try some of these out on some of my bone 
>> turning.
>> Have a good night everyone.
>>
>> C.A.G.
>>
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Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates

['Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills]

 Hello Everyone.


Thank you all for your notes/kind words. 
Rick I use to have the use of a laser,  I made appx. 300 plastic templates, 
that most worked out very well for me.Today I no longer have that access to 
that laser, so I started going back to the olden daysmethods that worked for me 
in the past.  My quality of my home made templates, is not quite the same as 
the laser, but  Over all I think these stainless steel templates should workout 
well for me.As I see it, Its all part of the learning experience.  (And I am 
still learning a lot, form this practice.)

Talk to you all MORE, when I wake up. Have a good day.
C.A.G.
On Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 09:46:03 AM EST, Rick Hutley 
 wrote:  
 
 
These look very substantial and long-lasting Curt. I wonder if it would be 
worthwhile cutting them out of ¼” acrylic sheet on a laser engraver. It if is, 
it would be a fast and easy way to duplicate them when they wear out or someone 
else needs one (and a lot lighter, and hence cheaper, to post).
 
  
 
Also, anyone with any graphics skills (eg. Using Illustrator) could create 
their own template designs – or perhaps take a contour off of an existing piece 
they are trying to replace/replicate (maybe using one of those contour 
measuring things from Homedepot etc.) 
 
  
 
Rick
 
  
 
From:'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 

Date: Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 9:32 AM
To: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 

Subject: Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates
 
Hello and Good morning again everyone.
 
I stated the Pen State was the only company that still makes templates.
 
This is true, but I also wanted everyone to know there templates are a bit 
different then the 
 
ones that I make.  here are some photo's of there templates modified to work 
with my set-up.
 
As you can see there templates are much smaller then what I make, In these 
photos, I tac wielded there 
 
templates onto a piece of metal So I can hold these templates with my 
set-up/tool holders. There templates
 
are nice, but they may need some modifications if you want to use them.(same 
but different.)  ;-)
 
NOTE: the white template in the mid, of the second photo is one that I made/ 
point of reference.
 
  
 
C.A.G.
 
  
 
On Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 09:21:33 AM EST, 'Curt George' via Legacy 
Ornamental Mills  wrote:
 
  
 
  
 
Good morning Tim.
 
  
 
"Auto Cad".  When I started, the meaning of CAD was ,Cardboard Assisted  . 
(Isn't is funny how meanings change over the years?) ;-p
 
  
 
Have a great day.
 
  
 
C.A.G.
 
  
 
On Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 06:46:39 AM EST, Tim Ziegler 
 wrote:
 
  
 
  
 
Great description Curt. I too have 20 plus years of designing and making 
templates. Many by hand, but in the end
 
most were drawn in AutoCad then cut out on a small CNC template machine. 

 
Kind Regards,
 
  
 
Timothy J. Ziegler
 
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
 
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
 
14171 160th Ave.
 
Foreston MN 56330
 
  
 
320-294-5798 shop
 
320-630-2243 cell
 
  
 
  
 
On Wed, Feb 14, 2024 at 11:55 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 wrote:
 

Hello and Good evening everyone.(I just got home form work.)
 
  
 
I was asked about these templates that I was making, And I thought 
 
others might also like to hear more on this topic.
 
First off, the ones that I am making today are stainless steel, but in the past 
I 
 
made and used many other materials, I have wood, plastic, and metal templates 
that I 
 
have both bought and made.
 
The bought templates are both plastic and metal. Pen State are the only company 
that I 
 
know of today that still sell templates for turning. but in the past there were 
more.
 
I think the CNC world has all but destroyed that part of the industry, 
Templates were the poor 
 
man's CNC. to make copies of parts for many woodworkers (in all fields not just 
wood turning.) 
 
  
 
I see the template as a general guide only, I am not looking for fine details 
in my templates, only 
 
the general shapes are what I want.  The details I choose to add with my Legacy 
and or turned by hand,
 
this give my work a homemade/custom quality , but also lets me have the finer  
look of a production
 
quality, that many people today are looking for.
 
  
 
When I start, I always start with the centerline of the part. This centerline 
is where I not only start to draw 
 
from, but its also this line is were I align my templates and machines so 
everything works together. this is why
 
every template has a flat on both edges, those edges are/is the center line of 
the part. (made for easy alignment.) On my lathe and Legacy, this center line 
is the center points of the tailstock and headstock.
 
all measurements are taken form this point.
 
These stainless steel templates are made for my bone turning handles that I 
like to make today. I am limited
 
to the measurement of the handle I make. those are.  3 3/4" long x 1/2" tall

Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates

[Tim Ziegler]

wow i thought that was my mistake. guess not. whew.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Thu, Feb 15, 2024 at 3:45 PM  wrote:

> Cardboard Assisted  really I never knew that lol
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, February 16, 2024 1:21 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates
>
>
>
> Good morning Tim.
>
>
>
> "Auto Cad".  When I started, the meaning of CAD was ,Cardboard Assisted  .
> (Isn't is funny how meanings change over the years?) ;-p
>
>
>
> Have a great day.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 06:46:39 AM EST, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Great description Curt. I too have 20 plus years of designing and making
> templates. Many by hand, but in the end
>
> most were drawn in AutoCad then cut out on a small CNC template machine.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 14, 2024 at 11:55 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
>  wrote:
>
> Hello and Good evening everyone. (I just got home form work.)
>
>
>
> I was asked about these templates that I was making, And I thought
>
> others might also like to hear more on this topic.
>
> First off, the ones that I am making today are stainless steel, but in the
> past I
>
> made and used many other materials, I have wood, plastic, and metal
> templates that I
>
> have both bought and made.
>
> The bought templates are both plastic and metal. Pen State are the only
> company that I
>
> know of today that still sell templates for turning. but in the past there
> were more.
>
> I think the CNC world has all but destroyed that part of the industry,
> Templates were the poor
>
> man's CNC. to make copies of parts for many woodworkers (in all fields not
> just wood turning.)
>
>
>
> I see the template as a general guide only, I am not looking for fine
> details in my templates, only
>
> the general shapes are what I want.  The details I choose to add with my
> Legacy and or turned by hand,
>
> this give my work a homemade/custom quality , but also lets me have the
> finer  look of a production
>
> quality, that many people today are looking for.
>
>
>
> When I start, I always start with the centerline of the part. This
> centerline is where I not only start to draw
>
> from, but its also this line is were I align my templates and machines so
> everything works together. this is why
>
> every template has a flat on both edges, those edges are/is the center
> line of the part. (made for easy alignment.) On my lathe and Legacy, this
> center line is the center points of the tailstock and headstock.
>
> all measurements are taken form this point.
>
> These stainless steel templates are made for my bone turning handles that
> I like to make today. I am limited
>
> to the measurement of the handle I make. those are.  3 3/4" long x 1/2"
> tall (remember the spindles are originally  7/8" dia. round, so just under
> 1/2" is the dia. will be my max, size for my cuts.)
>
> As a General note. these templates are for small work, if the spindle is
> larger then what I want to make the template too will also have to be
> modified, if I choose to use it. This leads to the need of having many
> different templates. At this time, I have appx. 300 templates hanging in my
> shop. (I only have one photo, at this time, it is of one of my three racks
> that hold some of my templates.) In the photo there are wood, Corian, and
> plastic templates that I made on a laser a few years ago.  Many of these
> templates range form stair case parts, finals, and other wood turning
> design patterns that I wanted to make over the years.
>
> I have a rack in the rafters of my shop which has many table legs and
> spindles form side jobs. fully made parts that I used as templates in my
> early days of wood working.
>
>
>
> Back to the topic.
>
> If you are only looking for a general shape and key points, that have to
> be copied, templates are an easy way to maintain quality and to increase
> speed in production.
>
> Today I find it fun, and easy to make templates w

Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates

[Tim Ziegler]

Not sure what happened there but I sure should spell checked sorry thats
what happens at 5:00 in the morning lol.
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Thu, Feb 15, 2024 at 3:45 PM  wrote:

> Cardboard Assisted  really I never knew that lol
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, February 16, 2024 1:21 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates
>
>
>
> Good morning Tim.
>
>
>
> "Auto Cad".  When I started, the meaning of CAD was ,Cardboard Assisted  .
> (Isn't is funny how meanings change over the years?) ;-p
>
>
>
> Have a great day.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 06:46:39 AM EST, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Great description Curt. I too have 20 plus years of designing and making
> templates. Many by hand, but in the end
>
> most were drawn in AutoCad then cut out on a small CNC template machine.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 14, 2024 at 11:55 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
>  wrote:
>
> Hello and Good evening everyone. (I just got home form work.)
>
>
>
> I was asked about these templates that I was making, And I thought
>
> others might also like to hear more on this topic.
>
> First off, the ones that I am making today are stainless steel, but in the
> past I
>
> made and used many other materials, I have wood, plastic, and metal
> templates that I
>
> have both bought and made.
>
> The bought templates are both plastic and metal. Pen State are the only
> company that I
>
> know of today that still sell templates for turning. but in the past there
> were more.
>
> I think the CNC world has all but destroyed that part of the industry,
> Templates were the poor
>
> man's CNC. to make copies of parts for many woodworkers (in all fields not
> just wood turning.)
>
>
>
> I see the template as a general guide only, I am not looking for fine
> details in my templates, only
>
> the general shapes are what I want.  The details I choose to add with my
> Legacy and or turned by hand,
>
> this give my work a homemade/custom quality , but also lets me have the
> finer  look of a production
>
> quality, that many people today are looking for.
>
>
>
> When I start, I always start with the centerline of the part. This
> centerline is where I not only start to draw
>
> from, but its also this line is were I align my templates and machines so
> everything works together. this is why
>
> every template has a flat on both edges, those edges are/is the center
> line of the part. (made for easy alignment.) On my lathe and Legacy, this
> center line is the center points of the tailstock and headstock.
>
> all measurements are taken form this point.
>
> These stainless steel templates are made for my bone turning handles that
> I like to make today. I am limited
>
> to the measurement of the handle I make. those are.  3 3/4" long x 1/2"
> tall (remember the spindles are originally  7/8" dia. round, so just under
> 1/2" is the dia. will be my max, size for my cuts.)
>
> As a General note. these templates are for small work, if the spindle is
> larger then what I want to make the template too will also have to be
> modified, if I choose to use it. This leads to the need of having many
> different templates. At this time, I have appx. 300 templates hanging in my
> shop. (I only have one photo, at this time, it is of one of my three racks
> that hold some of my templates.) In the photo there are wood, Corian, and
> plastic templates that I made on a laser a few years ago.  Many of these
> templates range form stair case parts, finals, and other wood turning
> design patterns that I wanted to make over the years.
>
> I have a rack in the rafters of my shop which has many table legs and
> spindles form side jobs. fully made parts that I used as templates in my
> early days of wood working.
>
>
>
> Back to the topic.
>
> If you are only looking for a general shape and key points, that have to
> be copied, templates are an easy way to maintain quality and to increase
> speed in production.
&g

RE: New hand made Stainless Steel templates

[bulkeley]

Cardboard Assisted  really I never knew that lol

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2024 1:21 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates

 

Good morning Tim.

 

"Auto Cad".  When I started, the meaning of CAD was ,Cardboard Assisted  . 
(Isn't is funny how meanings change over the years?) ;-p

 

Have a great day.

 

C.A.G.

 

On Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 06:46:39 AM EST, Tim Ziegler 
mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Great description Curt. I too have 20 plus years of designing and making 
templates. Many by hand, but in the end

most were drawn in AutoCad then cut out on a small CNC template machine. 


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

Ziegler Laser Worx LLC

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Wed, Feb 14, 2024 at 11:55 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

Hello and Good evening everyone. (I just got home form work.)

 

I was asked about these templates that I was making, And I thought 

others might also like to hear more on this topic.

First off, the ones that I am making today are stainless steel, but in the past 
I 

made and used many other materials, I have wood, plastic, and metal templates 
that I 

have both bought and made.

The bought templates are both plastic and metal. Pen State are the only company 
that I 

know of today that still sell templates for turning. but in the past there were 
more.

I think the CNC world has all but destroyed that part of the industry, 
Templates were the poor 

man's CNC. to make copies of parts for many woodworkers (in all fields not just 
wood turning.) 

 

I see the template as a general guide only, I am not looking for fine details 
in my templates, only 

the general shapes are what I want.  The details I choose to add with my Legacy 
and or turned by hand,

this give my work a homemade/custom quality , but also lets me have the finer  
look of a production

quality, that many people today are looking for.

 

When I start, I always start with the centerline of the part. This centerline 
is where I not only start to draw 

from, but its also this line is were I align my templates and machines so 
everything works together. this is why

every template has a flat on both edges, those edges are/is the center line of 
the part. (made for easy alignment.) On my lathe and Legacy, this center line 
is the center points of the tailstock and headstock.

all measurements are taken form this point.

These stainless steel templates are made for my bone turning handles that I 
like to make today. I am limited

to the measurement of the handle I make. those are.  3 3/4" long x 1/2" tall 
(remember the spindles are originally  7/8" dia. round, so just under 1/2" is 
the dia. will be my max, size for my cuts.)

As a General note. these templates are for small work, if the spindle is larger 
then what I want to make the template too will also have to be modified, if I 
choose to use it. This leads to the need of having many different templates. At 
this time, I have appx. 300 templates hanging in my shop. (I only have one 
photo, at this time, it is of one of my three racks that hold some of my 
templates.) In the photo there are wood, Corian, and plastic templates that I 
made on a laser a few years ago.  Many of these templates range form stair case 
parts, finals, and other wood turning design patterns that I wanted to make 
over the years.

I have a rack in the rafters of my shop which has many table legs and spindles 
form side jobs. fully made parts that I used as templates in my early days of 
wood working.

 

Back to the topic. 

If you are only looking for a general shape and key points, that have to be 
copied, templates are an easy way to maintain quality and to increase speed in 
production.

Today I find it fun, and easy to make templates when needed. these stainless 
steel templates that I have shown. only take me appx. 20 min. form start to 
finish. (the pic. of the Stainless steel templates are to show how simple the 
designs can be, as well as the size of these templates.)

 

If you have more questions, Please let me know.

Have a good night everyone.

 

C.A.G.

 

On Monday, February 12, 2024 at 06:05:10 PM EST, Curt George 
mailto:curt.geo...@yahoo.com> > wrote: 

 

 

I too enjoy using the Wave attachment.  

I normally stay small, but Large is So very cool! 

Those are great photo's.

 

C.A.G.

 

On Monday, February 12, 2024 at 06:01:07 PM EST, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: 

 

 

With my wav I can even make waves like these I love it best mod so many 
variations it can do

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>

Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates

[Ken and Diana]

 Thanks for sharing with us about the templates.
Nice work Curt.

On Thu, Feb 15, 2024 at 3:38 PM Ed Trevillian  wrote:

> Thank you Curt !
> Ed Trevillian
>
> On Thu, Feb 15, 2024, 12:55 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello and Good evening everyone. (I just got home form work.)
>>
>> I was asked about these templates that I was making, And I thought
>> others might also like to hear more on this topic.
>> First off, the ones that I am making today are stainless steel, but in
>> the past I
>> made and used many other materials, I have wood, plastic, and metal
>> templates that I
>> have both bought and made.
>> The bought templates are both plastic and metal. Pen State are the only
>> company that I
>> know of today that still sell templates for turning. but in the past
>> there were more.
>> I think the CNC world has all but destroyed that part of the industry,
>> Templates were the poor
>> man's CNC. to make copies of parts for many woodworkers (in all fields
>> not just wood turning.)
>>
>> I see the template as a general guide only, I am not looking for fine
>> details in my templates, only
>> the general shapes are what I want.  The details I choose to add with my
>> Legacy and or turned by hand,
>> this give my work a homemade/custom quality , but also lets me have the
>> finer  look of a production
>> quality, that many people today are looking for.
>>
>> When I start, I always start with the centerline of the part. This
>> centerline is where I not only start to draw
>> from, but its also this line is were I align my templates and machines so
>> everything works together. this is why
>> every template has a flat on both edges, those edges are/is the center
>> line of the part. (made for easy alignment.) On my lathe and Legacy, this
>> center line is the center points of the tailstock and headstock.
>> all measurements are taken form this point.
>> These stainless steel templates are made for my bone turning handles that
>> I like to make today. I am limited
>> to the measurement of the handle I make. those are.  3 3/4" long x 1/2"
>> tall (remember the spindles are originally  7/8" dia. round, so just under
>> 1/2" is the dia. will be my max, size for my cuts.)
>> As a General note. these templates are for small work, if the spindle is
>> larger then what I want to make the template too will also have to be
>> modified, if I choose to use it. This leads to the need of having many
>> different templates. At this time, I have appx. 300 templates hanging in my
>> shop. (I only have one photo, at this time, it is of one of my three racks
>> that hold some of my templates.) In the photo there are wood, Corian, and
>> plastic templates that I made on a laser a few years ago.  Many of these
>> templates range form stair case parts, finals, and other wood turning
>> design patterns that I wanted to make over the years.
>> I have a rack in the rafters of my shop which has many table legs and
>> spindles form side jobs. fully made parts that I used as templates in my
>> early days of wood working.
>>
>> Back to the topic.
>> If you are only looking for a general shape and key points, that have to
>> be copied, templates are an easy way to maintain quality and to increase
>> speed in production.
>> Today I find it fun, and easy to make templates when needed. these
>> stainless steel templates that I have shown. only take me appx. 20 min.
>> form start to finish. (the pic. of the Stainless steel templates are to
>> show how simple the designs can be, as well as the size of these templates.)
>>
>> If you have more questions, Please let me know.
>> Have a good night everyone.
>>
>> C.A.G.
>>
>> On Monday, February 12, 2024 at 06:05:10 PM EST, Curt George <
>> curt.geo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I too enjoy using the Wave attachment.
>> I normally stay small, but Large is So very cool!
>> Those are great photo's.
>>
>> C.A.G.
>>
>> On Monday, February 12, 2024 at 06:01:07 PM EST, 
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> With my wav I can even make waves like these I love it best mod so many
>> variations it can do
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *
>> bulke...@mmnet.com.au
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2024 9:49 AM
>> *To:* legacy-ornam

Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates

[Ed Trevillian]

Thank you Curt !
Ed Trevillian

On Thu, Feb 15, 2024, 12:55 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hello and Good evening everyone. (I just got home form work.)
>
> I was asked about these templates that I was making, And I thought
> others might also like to hear more on this topic.
> First off, the ones that I am making today are stainless steel, but in the
> past I
> made and used many other materials, I have wood, plastic, and metal
> templates that I
> have both bought and made.
> The bought templates are both plastic and metal. Pen State are the only
> company that I
> know of today that still sell templates for turning. but in the past there
> were more.
> I think the CNC world has all but destroyed that part of the industry,
> Templates were the poor
> man's CNC. to make copies of parts for many woodworkers (in all fields not
> just wood turning.)
>
> I see the template as a general guide only, I am not looking for fine
> details in my templates, only
> the general shapes are what I want.  The details I choose to add with my
> Legacy and or turned by hand,
> this give my work a homemade/custom quality , but also lets me have the
> finer  look of a production
> quality, that many people today are looking for.
>
> When I start, I always start with the centerline of the part. This
> centerline is where I not only start to draw
> from, but its also this line is were I align my templates and machines so
> everything works together. this is why
> every template has a flat on both edges, those edges are/is the center
> line of the part. (made for easy alignment.) On my lathe and Legacy, this
> center line is the center points of the tailstock and headstock.
> all measurements are taken form this point.
> These stainless steel templates are made for my bone turning handles that
> I like to make today. I am limited
> to the measurement of the handle I make. those are.  3 3/4" long x 1/2"
> tall (remember the spindles are originally  7/8" dia. round, so just under
> 1/2" is the dia. will be my max, size for my cuts.)
> As a General note. these templates are for small work, if the spindle is
> larger then what I want to make the template too will also have to be
> modified, if I choose to use it. This leads to the need of having many
> different templates. At this time, I have appx. 300 templates hanging in my
> shop. (I only have one photo, at this time, it is of one of my three racks
> that hold some of my templates.) In the photo there are wood, Corian, and
> plastic templates that I made on a laser a few years ago.  Many of these
> templates range form stair case parts, finals, and other wood turning
> design patterns that I wanted to make over the years.
> I have a rack in the rafters of my shop which has many table legs and
> spindles form side jobs. fully made parts that I used as templates in my
> early days of wood working.
>
> Back to the topic.
> If you are only looking for a general shape and key points, that have to
> be copied, templates are an easy way to maintain quality and to increase
> speed in production.
> Today I find it fun, and easy to make templates when needed. these
> stainless steel templates that I have shown. only take me appx. 20 min.
> form start to finish. (the pic. of the Stainless steel templates are to
> show how simple the designs can be, as well as the size of these templates.)
>
> If you have more questions, Please let me know.
> Have a good night everyone.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Monday, February 12, 2024 at 06:05:10 PM EST, Curt George <
> curt.geo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> I too enjoy using the Wave attachment.
> I normally stay small, but Large is So very cool!
> Those are great photo's.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Monday, February 12, 2024 at 06:01:07 PM EST, 
> wrote:
>
>
> With my wav I can even make waves like these I love it best mod so many
> variations it can do
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *
> bulke...@mmnet.com.au
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2024 9:49 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: New hand made Stainless Steel templates
>
>
>
> The wav attachment best mod we ever came up with
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2024 9:08 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates
>
>
>
> Hey Mac
>
>
>
> Yes you are r

Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates

[Rick Hutley]

These look very substantial and long-lasting Curt. I wonder if it would be 
worthwhile cutting them out of ¼” acrylic sheet on a laser engraver. It if is, 
it would be a fast and easy way to duplicate them when they wear out or someone 
else needs one (and a lot lighter, and hence cheaper, to post).

Also, anyone with any graphics skills (eg. Using Illustrator) could create 
their own template designs – or perhaps take a contour off of an existing piece 
they are trying to replace/replicate (maybe using one of those contour 
measuring things from Homedepot etc.)

Rick

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 

Date: Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 9:32 AM
To: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 

Subject: Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates
Hello and Good morning again everyone.
I stated the Pen State was the only company that still makes templates.
This is true, but I also wanted everyone to know there templates are a bit 
different then the
ones that I make.  here are some photo's of there templates modified to work 
with my set-up.
As you can see there templates are much smaller then what I make, In these 
photos, I tac wielded there
templates onto a piece of metal So I can hold these templates with my 
set-up/tool holders. There templates
are nice, but they may need some modifications if you want to use them.(same 
but different.)  ;-)
NOTE: the white template in the mid, of the second photo is one that I made/ 
point of reference.

C.A.G.

On Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 09:21:33 AM EST, 'Curt George' via Legacy 
Ornamental Mills  wrote:


Good morning Tim.

"Auto Cad".  When I started, the meaning of CAD was ,Cardboard Assisted  . 
(Isn't is funny how meanings change over the years?) ;-p

Have a great day.

C.A.G.

On Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 06:46:39 AM EST, Tim Ziegler 
 wrote:


Great description Curt. I too have 20 plus years of designing and making 
templates. Many by hand, but in the end
most were drawn in AutoCad then cut out on a small CNC template machine.
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Wed, Feb 14, 2024 at 11:55 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>>
 wrote:
Hello and Good evening everyone. (I just got home form work.)

I was asked about these templates that I was making, And I thought
others might also like to hear more on this topic.
First off, the ones that I am making today are stainless steel, but in the past 
I
made and used many other materials, I have wood, plastic, and metal templates 
that I
have both bought and made.
The bought templates are both plastic and metal. Pen State are the only company 
that I
know of today that still sell templates for turning. but in the past there were 
more.
I think the CNC world has all but destroyed that part of the industry, 
Templates were the poor
man's CNC. to make copies of parts for many woodworkers (in all fields not just 
wood turning.)

I see the template as a general guide only, I am not looking for fine details 
in my templates, only
the general shapes are what I want.  The details I choose to add with my Legacy 
and or turned by hand,
this give my work a homemade/custom quality , but also lets me have the finer  
look of a production
quality, that many people today are looking for.

When I start, I always start with the centerline of the part. This centerline 
is where I not only start to draw
from, but its also this line is were I align my templates and machines so 
everything works together. this is why
every template has a flat on both edges, those edges are/is the center line of 
the part. (made for easy alignment.) On my lathe and Legacy, this center line 
is the center points of the tailstock and headstock.
all measurements are taken form this point.
These stainless steel templates are made for my bone turning handles that I 
like to make today. I am limited
to the measurement of the handle I make. those are.  3 3/4" long x 1/2" tall 
(remember the spindles are originally  7/8" dia. round, so just under 1/2" is 
the dia. will be my max, size for my cuts.)
As a General note. these templates are for small work, if the spindle is larger 
then what I want to make the template too will also have to be modified, if I 
choose to use it. This leads to the need of having many different templates. At 
this time, I have appx. 300 templates hanging in my shop. (I only have one 
photo, at this time, it is of one of my three racks that hold some of my 
templates.) In the photo there are wood, Corian, and plastic templates that I 
made on a laser a few years ago.  Many of these templates range form stair case 
parts, finals, and other wood turning design patterns that I wanted to make 
over the years.
I have a rack in the rafters of my shop which has many table legs and spindles 
form

Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates

['Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills]

 Good morning Tim.
"Auto Cad".  When I started, the meaning of CAD was ,Cardboard Assisted  . 
(Isn't is funny how meanings change over the years?) ;-p
Have a great day.
C.A.G.
On Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 06:46:39 AM EST, Tim Ziegler 
 wrote:  
 
 Great description Curt. I too have 20 plus years of designing and making 
templates. Many by hand, but in the endmost were drawn in AutoCad then cut out 
on a small CNC template machine. 
Kind Regards,
Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & SpecialtyZiegler Laser Worx LLC14171 160th 
Ave.Foreston MN 56330
320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell

On Wed, Feb 14, 2024 at 11:55 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 wrote:

 Hello and Good evening everyone. (I just got home form work.)
I was asked about these templates that I was making, And I thought others might 
also like to hear more on this topic.First off, the ones that I am making today 
are stainless steel, but in the past I made and used many other materials, I 
have wood, plastic, and metal templates that I have both bought and made.The 
bought templates are both plastic and metal. Pen State are the only company 
that I know of today that still sell templates for turning. but in the past 
there were more.I think the CNC world has all but destroyed that part of the 
industry, Templates were the poor man's CNC. to make copies of parts for many 
woodworkers (in all fields not just wood turning.) 
I see the template as a general guide only, I am not looking for fine details 
in my templates, only the general shapes are what I want.  The details I choose 
to add with my Legacy and or turned by hand,this give my work a homemade/custom 
quality , but also lets me have the finer  look of a productionquality, that 
many people today are looking for.
When I start, I always start with the centerline of the part. This centerline 
is where I not only start to draw from, but its also this line is were I align 
my templates and machines so everything works together. this is whyevery 
template has a flat on both edges, those edges are/is the center line of the 
part. (made for easy alignment.) On my lathe and Legacy, this center line is 
the center points of the tailstock and headstock.all measurements are taken 
form this point.These stainless steel templates are made for my bone turning 
handles that I like to make today. I am limitedto the measurement of the handle 
I make. those are.  3 3/4" long x 1/2" tall (remember the spindles are 
originally  7/8" dia. round, so just under 1/2" is the dia. will be my max, 
size for my cuts.)As a General note. these templates are for small work, if the 
spindle is larger then what I want to make the template too will also have to 
be modified, if I choose to use it. This leads to the need of having many 
different templates. At this time, I have appx. 300 templates hanging in my 
shop. (I only have one photo, at this time, it is of one of my three racks that 
hold some of my templates.) In the photo there are wood, Corian, and plastic 
templates that I made on a laser a few years ago.  Many of these templates 
range form stair case parts, finals, and other wood turning design patterns 
that I wanted to make over the years.I have a rack in the rafters of my shop 
which has many table legs and spindles form side jobs. fully made parts that I 
used as templates in my early days of wood working.
Back to the topic. If you are only looking for a general shape and key points, 
that have to be copied, templates are an easy way to maintain quality and to 
increase speed in production.Today I find it fun, and easy to make templates 
when needed. these stainless steel templates that I have shown. only take me 
appx. 20 min. form start to finish. (the pic. of the Stainless steel templates 
are to show how simple the designs can be, as well as the size of these 
templates.)
If you have more questions, Please let me know.Have a good night everyone.
C.A.G.
On Monday, February 12, 2024 at 06:05:10 PM EST, Curt George 
 wrote:  
 
  I too enjoy using the Wave attachment.  I normally stay small, but Large is 
So very cool! Those are great photo's.
C.A.G.
On Monday, February 12, 2024 at 06:01:07 PM EST,  
wrote:  
 
 
With my wav I can even make waves like these I love it best mod so many 
variations it can do

  

Bill

  

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of bulke...@mmnet.com.au
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2024 9:49 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New hand made Stainless Steel templates

  

The wav attachment best mod we ever came up with

  

Bill

  

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2024 9:08 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates

  

Hey Mac

  

Yes you are right Stainless Steel is not easy to work with. using most hand 
tools.

But with a hand angle grinder and an abras

Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates

[Tim Ziegler]

Great description Curt. I too have 20 plus years of designing and making
templates. Many by hand, but in the end
most were drawn in AutoCad then cut out on a small CNC template machine.
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Wed, Feb 14, 2024 at 11:55 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hello and Good evening everyone. (I just got home form work.)
>
> I was asked about these templates that I was making, And I thought
> others might also like to hear more on this topic.
> First off, the ones that I am making today are stainless steel, but in the
> past I
> made and used many other materials, I have wood, plastic, and metal
> templates that I
> have both bought and made.
> The bought templates are both plastic and metal. Pen State are the only
> company that I
> know of today that still sell templates for turning. but in the past there
> were more.
> I think the CNC world has all but destroyed that part of the industry,
> Templates were the poor
> man's CNC. to make copies of parts for many woodworkers (in all fields not
> just wood turning.)
>
> I see the template as a general guide only, I am not looking for fine
> details in my templates, only
> the general shapes are what I want.  The details I choose to add with my
> Legacy and or turned by hand,
> this give my work a homemade/custom quality , but also lets me have the
> finer  look of a production
> quality, that many people today are looking for.
>
> When I start, I always start with the centerline of the part. This
> centerline is where I not only start to draw
> from, but its also this line is were I align my templates and machines so
> everything works together. this is why
> every template has a flat on both edges, those edges are/is the center
> line of the part. (made for easy alignment.) On my lathe and Legacy, this
> center line is the center points of the tailstock and headstock.
> all measurements are taken form this point.
> These stainless steel templates are made for my bone turning handles that
> I like to make today. I am limited
> to the measurement of the handle I make. those are.  3 3/4" long x 1/2"
> tall (remember the spindles are originally  7/8" dia. round, so just under
> 1/2" is the dia. will be my max, size for my cuts.)
> As a General note. these templates are for small work, if the spindle is
> larger then what I want to make the template too will also have to be
> modified, if I choose to use it. This leads to the need of having many
> different templates. At this time, I have appx. 300 templates hanging in my
> shop. (I only have one photo, at this time, it is of one of my three racks
> that hold some of my templates.) In the photo there are wood, Corian, and
> plastic templates that I made on a laser a few years ago.  Many of these
> templates range form stair case parts, finals, and other wood turning
> design patterns that I wanted to make over the years.
> I have a rack in the rafters of my shop which has many table legs and
> spindles form side jobs. fully made parts that I used as templates in my
> early days of wood working.
>
> Back to the topic.
> If you are only looking for a general shape and key points, that have to
> be copied, templates are an easy way to maintain quality and to increase
> speed in production.
> Today I find it fun, and easy to make templates when needed. these
> stainless steel templates that I have shown. only take me appx. 20 min.
> form start to finish. (the pic. of the Stainless steel templates are to
> show how simple the designs can be, as well as the size of these templates.)
>
> If you have more questions, Please let me know.
> Have a good night everyone.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Monday, February 12, 2024 at 06:05:10 PM EST, Curt George <
> curt.geo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> I too enjoy using the Wave attachment.
> I normally stay small, but Large is So very cool!
> Those are great photo's.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Monday, February 12, 2024 at 06:01:07 PM EST, 
> wrote:
>
>
> With my wav I can even make waves like these I love it best mod so many
> variations it can do
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *
> bulke...@mmnet.com.au
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2024 9:49 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: New hand made Stainless Steel templates
>
>
>
> The wav attachment best mod we ever came up with
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
&

Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates

[Tim Ziegler]

That really does look cool. I like that. Thanks for sharing Curt.
Bone turning Master.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Feb 12, 2024 at 4:36 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hello Again Bill.
> Here are some PHOTO'S that might help? ;-)  I am sorry about the "Shop
> Withdrawal". BTDT!
> (Bin there Done that)
>
>
> C.A.G.
> On Monday, February 12, 2024 at 05:23:23 PM EST, 
> wrote:
>
>
> I’m seeing all the great stuff you guys are doing I’m getting shop
> withdrawal lol its so dam hot here and looks like no letup for all of
> February it’s just
>
> Too hot in the shop right now
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, February 12, 2024 10:55 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates
>
>
>
> Hey Curt,
>
>
>
> They look like they turned out pretty cool .
>
> Nice job. No reason they won't work for sure.
>
> Great work.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 11, 2024 at 11:44 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental
> Mills  wrote:
>
> Hello  Everyone.
>
>
>
> I had some free time today, so I made these templates for my Legacy, Only
> one has been tested so far, but I do think most of these should work well
> for my uses.
>
>
>
> I can use these templates on All of my wood working equipment, both of my
> Legacy's as well the lathes I own.
>
>
>
> Note: I see and use templates not as the final part of turning, but as a
> general guide for basic shaping of my spindles.
>
>
>
> Making stainless steel templates is not all that hard, by using an
> abrasive cutting wheel, and some hand files + a wire wheel to remove any
> burs...  the process is pretty easy. (If anyone wants to know more, Please
> ask.)
>
> Tomorrow I hope to be able to try some of these out on some of my bone
> turning.
>
> Have a good night everyone.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
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Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates

[Tim Ziegler]

that  is some pretty cool wave.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Feb 12, 2024 at 5:01 PM  wrote:

> With my wav I can even make waves like these I love it best mod so many
> variations it can do
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *
> bulke...@mmnet.com.au
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2024 9:49 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: New hand made Stainless Steel templates
>
>
>
> The wav attachment best mod we ever came up with
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2024 9:08 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates
>
>
>
> Hey Mac
>
>
>
> Yes you are right Stainless Steel is not easy to work with. using most
> hand tools.
>
> But with a hand angle grinder and an abrasive wheel, Plus a pedestal
> grinder with both a grinding wheel and wire brush and a few files.(for fine
> detail work.) working with these scrap steel pieces was not all that hard
> to do. Each template took something like 20 min. to make.(+/-)
>
> As I start getting more use to do this kind of stuff by hand again, I am
> hoping the quality of my work will also improve?
>
>
>
> I just made one more turning today.
>
> This one is template work, with the Wave Attachment and the Legacy.
>
>
>
> More latter.
>
>
>
> Have a good day.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Monday, February 12, 2024 at 03:21:13 PM EST, M.W.Foscue <
> mwfos...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Curtis,
>
>
>
> Would it not have been easier to use pieces of scrap 2x2 angle iron or a
> steel window lintel from a house being renovated?
>
> You may be able to fined scrap steel at a local "Habitat for Humanity
> Re-store". (One of my favorite places to check out once or twice a month.)
>
> I have never tried cutting stainless - but have tried to drill it - and
> that's a real bear!  Much easier to drill angle iron.
>
>
>
> Mac
> --
> --
>
> -Original Message-
> From: 
> Sent: Feb 12, 2024 2:32 PM
> To: 'parr...@aol.com' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates
>
> Hello Peter.
>
>
>
> Its been a while since we last talked.
>
>
>
> The stainless steel for most of these templates are form an old kitchen
> sink that was being thrown away.
>
> but stainless steel cabinets and or shelves are too always open for
> projects for me. when I can find
>
> them.
>
> Take care.  (and keep in touch.) ;-)
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
> --
> --
>
> On Monday, February 12, 2024 at 01:06:33 PM EST, 'parr...@aol.com' via
> Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:
>
>
>
> Nice work Curt
>
> Where did you source the stainless?
>
> Peter
> --
> --
>
> Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS
> <https://apps.apple.com/us/app/aol-news-email-weather-video/id646100661>
>
>
>
> On Monday, February 12, 2024, 12:44 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy
> Ornamental Mills  wrote:
>
> Hello  Everyone.
>
>
>
> I had some free time today, so I made these templates for my Legacy, Only
> one has been tested so far, but I do think most of these should work well
> for my uses.
>
>
>
> I can use these templates on All of my wood working equipment, both of my
> Legacy's as well the lathes I own.
>
>
>
> Note: I see and use templates not as the final part of turning, but as a
> general guide for basic shaping of my spindles.
>
>
>
> Making stainless steel templates is not all that hard, by using an
> abrasive cutting wheel, and some hand files + a wire wheel to remove any
> burs...  the process is pretty easy. (If anyone wants to know more, Please
> ask.)
>
> Tomorrow I hope to be able to try some of these out on some of my bone
> turning.
>
> Have a good night everyone.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
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Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates

[cdkr...@gmail.com]

Those bone handles are really nice. 
DanK  

On Monday, February 12, 2024 at 5:44:33 PM UTC-5 bulk...@mmnet.com.au wrote:

> As always curt beautiful work I do love your bone milling and I see how 
> the templates work well to get the great shapes well done buddy
>
>  
>
> Bill
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2024 6:47 AM
> *To:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com>
> *Subject:* Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates
>
>  
>
> Hey Guys.  Just got done playing with one of these templates.
>
> As you can see, its not an exact copy, but with the use of a template 
>
> I can rope on an tapper with no problems.
>
> bye the use of using a template with the Legacy, allows me to enjoy the 
> adventure
>
> of using my Legacy to its fullest.
>
> Legacy quote, "Legacy where your only limitation, is your imagination".  
> (AND I have an 
>
> very active Imagination.) ;-)
>
>  
>
> talk to you all more latter.
>
>  
>
> C.A.G.
>
>  
>
>  
>
> On Monday, February 12, 2024 at 02:32:21 PM EST, 'Curt George' via Legacy 
> Ornamental Mills  wrote: 
>
>  
>
>  
>
> Hello Peter. 
>
>  
>
> Its been a while since we last talked.
>
>  
>
> The stainless steel for most of these templates are form an old kitchen 
> sink that was being thrown away.
>
> but stainless steel cabinets and or shelves are too always open for 
> projects for me. when I can find
>
> them. 
>
> Take care.  (and keep in touch.) ;-)
>
>  
>
> C.A.G.
>
>  
>
> On Monday, February 12, 2024 at 01:06:33 PM EST, 'par...@aol.com' via 
> Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote: 
>
>  
>
>  
>
> Nice work Curt
>
> Where did you source the stainless?
>
> Peter 
>
> Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS 
> <https://apps.apple.com/us/app/aol-news-email-weather-video/id646100661>
>
>  
>
> On Monday, February 12, 2024, 12:44 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy 
> Ornamental Mills  wrote:
>
> Hello  Everyone.
>
>  
>
> I had some free time today, so I made these templates for my Legacy, Only 
> one has been tested so far, but I do think most of these should work well 
> for my uses.
>
>  
>
> I can use these templates on All of my wood working equipment, both of my 
> Legacy's as well the lathes I own.
>
>  
>
> Note: I see and use templates not as the final part of turning, but as a 
> general guide for basic shaping of my spindles.
>
>  
>
> Making stainless steel templates is not all that hard, by using an 
> abrasive cutting wheel, and some hand files + a wire wheel to remove any 
> burs...  the process is pretty easy. (If anyone wants to know more, Please 
> ask.)
>
> Tomorrow I hope to be able to try some of these out on some of my bone 
> turning.
>
> Have a good night everyone.
>
>  
>
> C.A.G.
>
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Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates

['Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills]

 I too enjoy using the Wave attachment.  I normally stay small, but Large is So 
very cool! Those are great photo's.
C.A.G.
On Monday, February 12, 2024 at 06:01:07 PM EST,  
wrote:  
 
 
With my wav I can even make waves like these I love it best mod so many 
variations it can do

  

Bill

  

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of bulke...@mmnet.com.au
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2024 9:49 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New hand made Stainless Steel templates

  

The wav attachment best mod we ever came up with

  

Bill

  

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2024 9:08 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates

  

Hey Mac

  

Yes you are right Stainless Steel is not easy to work with. using most hand 
tools.

But with a hand angle grinder and an abrasive wheel, Plus a pedestal grinder 
with both a grinding wheel and wire brush and a few files.(for fine detail 
work.) working with these scrap steel pieces was not all that hard to do. Each 
template took something like 20 min. to make.(+/-)

As I start getting more use to do this kind of stuff by hand again, I am hoping 
the quality of my work will also improve?

  

I just made one more turning today.

This one is template work, with the Wave Attachment and the Legacy.

  

More latter.

  

Have a good day.

  

C.A.G.

  

On Monday, February 12, 2024 at 03:21:13 PM EST, M.W.Foscue 
 wrote: 

  

  

Curtis,

 

Would it not have been easier to use pieces of scrap 2x2 angle iron or a steel 
window lintel from a house being renovated?

You may be able to fined scrap steel at a local "Habitat for Humanity 
Re-store". (One of my favorite places to check out once or twice a month.)

I have never tried cutting stainless - but have tried to drill it - and that's 
a real bear!  Much easier to drill angle iron.

 

Mac

-Original Message-
From: 
Sent: Feb 12, 2024 2:32 PM
To: 'parr...@aol.com' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 

Subject: Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates

Hello Peter. 

 

Its been a while since we last talked.

 

The stainless steel for most of these templates are form an old kitchen sink 
that was being thrown away.

but stainless steel cabinets and or shelves are too always open for projects 
for me. when I can find

them. 

Take care.  (and keep in touch.) ;-)

 

C.A.G.

On Monday, February 12, 2024 at 01:06:33 PM EST, 'parr...@aol.com' via Legacy 
Ornamental Mills  wrote:

 

Nice work Curt 

Where did you source the stainless?

Peter

Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS

 

On Monday, February 12, 2024, 12:44 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental 
Mills  wrote: 


Hello  Everyone.

 

I had some free time today, so I made these templates for my Legacy, Only one 
has been tested so far, but I do think most of these should work well for my 
uses.

 

I can use these templates on All of my wood working equipment, both of my 
Legacy's as well the lathes I own.

 

Note: I see and use templates not as the final part of turning, but as a 
general guide for basic shaping of my spindles.

 

Making stainless steel templates is not all that hard, by using an abrasive 
cutting wheel, and some hand files + a wire wheel to remove any burs...  the 
process is pretty easy. (If anyone wants to know more, Please ask.)

Tomorrow I hope to be able to try some of these out on some of my bone turning.

Have a good night everyone.

 

C.A.G.

 


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RE: New hand made Stainless Steel templates

[bulkeley]

The wav attachment best mod we ever came up with

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2024 9:08 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates

 

Hey Mac

 

Yes you are right Stainless Steel is not easy to work with. using most hand 
tools.

But with a hand angle grinder and an abrasive wheel, Plus a pedestal grinder 
with both a grinding wheel and wire brush and a few files.(for fine detail 
work.) working with these scrap steel pieces was not all that hard to do. Each 
template took something like 20 min. to make.(+/-)

As I start getting more use to do this kind of stuff by hand again, I am hoping 
the quality of my work will also improve?

 

I just made one more turning today.

This one is template work, with the Wave Attachment and the Legacy.

 

More latter.

 

Have a good day.

 

C.A.G.

 

On Monday, February 12, 2024 at 03:21:13 PM EST, M.W.Foscue 
mailto:mwfos...@earthlink.net> > wrote: 

 

 

Curtis,

 

Would it not have been easier to use pieces of scrap 2x2 angle iron or a steel 
window lintel from a house being renovated?

You may be able to fined scrap steel at a local "Habitat for Humanity 
Re-store". (One of my favorite places to check out once or twice a month.)

I have never tried cutting stainless - but have tried to drill it - and that's 
a real bear!  Much easier to drill angle iron.

 

Mac

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To: 'parr...@aol.com' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
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Subject: Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates

Hello Peter. 

 

Its been a while since we last talked.

 

The stainless steel for most of these templates are form an old kitchen sink 
that was being thrown away.

but stainless steel cabinets and or shelves are too always open for projects 
for me. when I can find

them. 

Take care.  (and keep in touch.) ;-)

 

C.A.G.

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On Monday, February 12, 2024 at 01:06:33 PM EST, 'parr...@aol.com' via Legacy 
Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

 

Nice work Curt 

Where did you source the stainless?

Peter

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Hello  Everyone.

 

I had some free time today, so I made these templates for my Legacy, Only one 
has been tested so far, but I do think most of these should work well for my 
uses.

 

I can use these templates on All of my wood working equipment, both of my 
Legacy's as well the lathes I own.

 

Note: I see and use templates not as the final part of turning, but as a 
general guide for basic shaping of my spindles.

 

Making stainless steel templates is not all that hard, by using an abrasive 
cutting wheel, and some hand files + a wire wheel to remove any burs...  the 
process is pretty easy. (If anyone wants to know more, Please ask.)

Tomorrow I hope to be able to try some of these out on some of my bone turning.

Have a good night everyone.

 

C.A.G.

 

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RE: New hand made Stainless Steel templates

[bulkeley]

As always curt beautiful work I do love your bone milling and I see how the 
templates work well to get the great shapes well done buddy

 

Bill

 

 

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2024 6:47 AM
To: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 

Subject: Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates

 

Hey Guys.  Just got done playing with one of these templates.

As you can see, its not an exact copy, but with the use of a template 

I can rope on an tapper with no problems.

bye the use of using a template with the Legacy, allows me to enjoy the 
adventure

of using my Legacy to its fullest.

Legacy quote, "Legacy where your only limitation, is your imagination".  (AND I 
have an 

very active Imagination.) ;-)

 

talk to you all more latter.

 

C.A.G.

 

 

On Monday, February 12, 2024 at 02:32:21 PM EST, 'Curt George' via Legacy 
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Hello Peter. 

 

Its been a while since we last talked.

 

The stainless steel for most of these templates are form an old kitchen sink 
that was being thrown away.

but stainless steel cabinets and or shelves are too always open for projects 
for me. when I can find

them. 

Take care.  (and keep in touch.) ;-)

 

C.A.G.

 

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Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Nice work Curt

Where did you source the stainless?

Peter 



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Hello  Everyone.

 

I had some free time today, so I made these templates for my Legacy, Only one 
has been tested so far, but I do think most of these should work well for my 
uses.

 

I can use these templates on All of my wood working equipment, both of my 
Legacy's as well the lathes I own.

 

Note: I see and use templates not as the final part of turning, but as a 
general guide for basic shaping of my spindles.

 

Making stainless steel templates is not all that hard, by using an abrasive 
cutting wheel, and some hand files + a wire wheel to remove any burs...  the 
process is pretty easy. (If anyone wants to know more, Please ask.)

Tomorrow I hope to be able to try some of these out on some of my bone turning.

Have a good night everyone.

 

C.A.G.

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RE: New hand made Stainless Steel templates

[bulkeley]

I’m seeing all the great stuff you guys are doing I’m getting shop withdrawal 
lol its so dam hot here and looks like no letup for all of February it’s just

Too hot in the shop right now

 

Bill

 

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 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, February 12, 2024 10:55 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates

 

Hey Curt,

 

They look like they turned out pretty cool .

Nice job. No reason they won't work for sure. 

Great work.




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

Ziegler Laser Worx LLC

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

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Hello  Everyone.

 

I had some free time today, so I made these templates for my Legacy, Only one 
has been tested so far, but I do think most of these should work well for my 
uses.

 

I can use these templates on All of my wood working equipment, both of my 
Legacy's as well the lathes I own.

 

Note: I see and use templates not as the final part of turning, but as a 
general guide for basic shaping of my spindles.

 

Making stainless steel templates is not all that hard, by using an abrasive 
cutting wheel, and some hand files + a wire wheel to remove any burs...  the 
process is pretty easy. (If anyone wants to know more, Please ask.)

Tomorrow I hope to be able to try some of these out on some of my bone turning.

Have a good night everyone.

 

C.A.G.

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Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates

['Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills]

 Yes Sir! Bill.That's my idea.
Live, Lear and Grow! in all things. (small things.) ;-)
C.A.G.
On Monday, February 12, 2024 at 05:05:43 PM EST,  
wrote:  
 
 
Nice curt some new shapes for your small work right? 

  

Bill

  

  

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Monday, February 12, 2024 4:44 PM
To: Legacy ornamental mills 
Subject: New hand made Stainless Steel templates

  

Hello  Everyone.

  

I had some free time today, so I made these templates for my Legacy, Only one 
has been tested so far, but I do think most of these should work well for my 
uses.

  

I can use these templates on All of my wood working equipment, both of my 
Legacy's as well the lathes I own.

  

Note: I see and use templates not as the final part of turning, but as a 
general guide for basic shaping of my spindles.

  

Making stainless steel templates is not all that hard, by using an abrasive 
cutting wheel, and some hand files + a wire wheel to remove any burs...  the 
process is pretty easy. (If anyone wants to know more, Please ask.)

Tomorrow I hope to be able to try some of these out on some of my bone turning.

Have a good night everyone.

  

C.A.G.

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RE: New hand made Stainless Steel templates

[bulkeley]

Nice curt some new shapes for your small work right? 

 

Bill

 

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Monday, February 12, 2024 4:44 PM
To: Legacy ornamental mills 
Subject: New hand made Stainless Steel templates

 

Hello  Everyone.

 

I had some free time today, so I made these templates for my Legacy, Only one 
has been tested so far, but I do think most of these should work well for my 
uses.

 

I can use these templates on All of my wood working equipment, both of my 
Legacy's as well the lathes I own.

 

Note: I see and use templates not as the final part of turning, but as a 
general guide for basic shaping of my spindles.

 

Making stainless steel templates is not all that hard, by using an abrasive 
cutting wheel, and some hand files + a wire wheel to remove any burs...  the 
process is pretty easy. (If anyone wants to know more, Please ask.)

Tomorrow I hope to be able to try some of these out on some of my bone turning.

Have a good night everyone.

 

C.A.G.

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Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates

[M.W.Foscue]

Curtis,

Would it not have been easier to use pieces of scrap 2x2 angle iron or a steel 
window lintel from a house being renovated?
You may be able to fined scrap steel at a local "Habitat for Humanity 
Re-store". (One of my favorite places to check out once or twice a month.)
I have never tried cutting stainless - but have tried to drill it - and that's 
a real bear!  Much easier to drill angle iron.

Mac
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To: 'parr...@aol.com' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 

Subject: Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates
Hello Peter. 
 
Its been a while since we last talked.
 
The stainless steel for most of these templates are form an old kitchen sink 
that was being thrown away.
but stainless steel cabinets and or shelves are too always open for projects 
for me. when I can find
them. 
Take care.  (and keep in touch.) ;-)
 
C.A.G.
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Nice work CurtWhere did you source the stainless?
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On Monday, February 12, 2024, 12:44 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental 
Mills  wrote:Hello  Everyone.
 
I had some free time today, so I made these templates for my Legacy, Only one 
has been tested so far, but I do think most of these should work well for my 
uses.
 
I can use these templates on All of my wood working equipment, both of my 
Legacy's as well the lathes I own.
 
Note: I see and use templates not as the final part of turning, but as a 
general guide for basic shaping of my spindles.
 
Making stainless steel templates is not all that hard, by using an abrasive 
cutting wheel, and some hand files + a wire wheel to remove any burs...  the 
process is pretty easy. (If anyone wants to know more, Please ask.)
Tomorrow I hope to be able to try some of these out on some of my bone turning.
Have a good night everyone.
 
C.A.G.












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Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates

['Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills]

 Hello Peter. 
Its been a while since we last talked.
The stainless steel for most of these templates are form an old kitchen sink 
that was being thrown away.but stainless steel cabinets and or shelves are too 
always open for projects for me. when I can findthem. Take care.  (and keep in 
touch.) ;-)
C.A.G.
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 Nice work CurtWhere did you source the stainless?Peter 


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On Monday, February 12, 2024, 12:44 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental 
Mills  wrote:

Hello  Everyone.
I had some free time today, so I made these templates for my Legacy, Only one 
has been tested so far, but I do think most of these should work well for my 
uses.
I can use these templates on All of my wood working equipment, both of my 
Legacy's as well the lathes I own.
Note: I see and use templates not as the final part of turning, but as a 
general guide for basic shaping of my spindles.
Making stainless steel templates is not all that hard, by using an abrasive 
cutting wheel, and some hand files + a wire wheel to remove any burs...  the 
process is pretty easy. (If anyone wants to know more, Please ask.)Tomorrow I 
hope to be able to try some of these out on some of my bone turning.Have a good 
night everyone.
C.A.G.

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Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates

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Nice work CurtWhere did you source the stainless?Peter 


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Hello  Everyone.
I had some free time today, so I made these templates for my Legacy, Only one 
has been tested so far, but I do think most of these should work well for my 
uses.
I can use these templates on All of my wood working equipment, both of my 
Legacy's as well the lathes I own.
Note: I see and use templates not as the final part of turning, but as a 
general guide for basic shaping of my spindles.
Making stainless steel templates is not all that hard, by using an abrasive 
cutting wheel, and some hand files + a wire wheel to remove any burs...  the 
process is pretty easy. (If anyone wants to know more, Please ask.)Tomorrow I 
hope to be able to try some of these out on some of my bone turning.Have a good 
night everyone.
C.A.G.

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Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates

['Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills]

 Good morning guys!
Thank you for the kind notes.I really like to use templates, Not like I need 
them but they do helpa lot to keep things as simple as possible.Jeff. On my 
Legacy 1000ex and my 200 the stylist is a 1/2" ball bearing guide, And on my 
Shop Smith lathethe stylist is the exact shape as the cutter that I am using. 
So fine details can be added/copied.  As a General note, I do use all my 
equipment on everything that I do,  I was taught Uniformity is the key to 
success, I can switch form the Legacy to my lathe and back again to the Legacy, 
with in just a few seconds with out having to change my set-up at all. This 
general idea lets me make a higher quality of product, faster and easer then 
using just one machine by its self.these stainless steel templates just help me 
keep this concept running smoothly.the hard part about making a template is 
keeping the size to scale of what I want. For me, with these ones that I made, 
are for some of my bone turning. since the blanks are mostly the same size, my 
templates can not be larger then the largest part of the blank, and also the 
smallest part of the template can not be smaller then 1/4" or I will cut into 
the brass shaft that is in the mid. of the bone blanks.And then you still need 
to keep the basic shapes, to make them look nice. The hard part is keeping the 
templates with in the scale you need. some templates work, some don't work as 
well. I am always tweakingthe templates with a small file and or sanding a edge 
to try to find what I need, for the look that I want.I plan to play with some 
of these templates today.  
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 Those should be quite durable.  I like that you can use them on 
otherequipment.  I like that idea so much I have done that for a long time!I'm 
a big believer in modularity, partly I guess because it satisfies my 
OCD.  
DanK

On Monday, February 12, 2024 at 8:10:35 AM UTC-5 Jeff Richmond wrote:

Nice, thanks for sharing Curt.
What do you use for a stylus to contact the template?
Jeff from Connecticut 
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On Feb 12, 2024, at 12:44 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 wrote:





Hello  Everyone.
I had some free time today, so I made these templates for my Legacy, Only one 
has been tested so far, but I do think most of these should work well for my 
uses.
I can use these templates on All of my wood working equipment, both of my 
Legacy's as well the lathes I own.
Note: I see and use templates not as the final part of turning, but as a 
general guide for basic shaping of my spindles.
Making stainless steel templates is not all that hard, by using an abrasive 
cutting wheel, and some hand files + a wire wheel to remove any burs...  the 
process is pretty easy. (If anyone wants to know more, Please ask.)Tomorrow I 
hope to be able to try some of these out on some of my bone turning.Have a good 
night everyone.
C.A.G.



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Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates

[Tim Ziegler]

lol
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
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On Mon, Feb 12, 2024 at 7:49 AM cdkr...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Those should be quite durable.  I like that you can use them on other
> equipment.  I like that idea so much I have done that for a long time!
> I'm a big believer in modularity, partly I guess because it satisfies my
> OCD.
> DanK
>
> On Monday, February 12, 2024 at 8:10:35 AM UTC-5 Jeff Richmond wrote:
>
>> Nice, thanks for sharing Curt.
>>
>> What do you use for a stylus to contact the template?
>>
>> Jeff from Connecticut
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Feb 12, 2024, at 12:44 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
>> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Hello  Everyone.
>>
>> I had some free time today, so I made these templates for my Legacy, Only
>> one has been tested so far, but I do think most of these should work well
>> for my uses.
>>
>> I can use these templates on All of my wood working equipment, both of my
>> Legacy's as well the lathes I own.
>>
>> Note: I see and use templates not as the final part of turning, but as a
>> general guide for basic shaping of my spindles.
>>
>> Making stainless steel templates is not all that hard, by using an
>> abrasive cutting wheel, and some hand files + a wire wheel to remove any
>> burs...  the process is pretty easy. (If anyone wants to know more, Please
>> ask.)
>> Tomorrow I hope to be able to try some of these out on some of my bone
>> turning.
>> Have a good night everyone.
>>
>> C.A.G.
>>
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Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates

[cdkr...@gmail.com]

Those should be quite durable.  I like that you can use them on other
equipment.  I like that idea so much I have done that for a long time!
I'm a big believer in modularity, partly I guess because it satisfies my 
OCD.  
DanK

On Monday, February 12, 2024 at 8:10:35 AM UTC-5 Jeff Richmond wrote:

> Nice, thanks for sharing Curt.
>
> What do you use for a stylus to contact the template?
>
> Jeff from Connecticut 
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 12, 2024, at 12:44 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> 
>
> Hello  Everyone.
>
> I had some free time today, so I made these templates for my Legacy, Only 
> one has been tested so far, but I do think most of these should work well 
> for my uses.
>
> I can use these templates on All of my wood working equipment, both of my 
> Legacy's as well the lathes I own.
>
> Note: I see and use templates not as the final part of turning, but as a 
> general guide for basic shaping of my spindles.
>
> Making stainless steel templates is not all that hard, by using an 
> abrasive cutting wheel, and some hand files + a wire wheel to remove any 
> burs...  the process is pretty easy. (If anyone wants to know more, Please 
> ask.)
> Tomorrow I hope to be able to try some of these out on some of my bone 
> turning.
> Have a good night everyone.
>
> C.A.G.
>
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Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates

[Jeff Richmond]

Nice, thanks for sharing Curt.What do you use for a stylus to contact the template?Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Feb 12, 2024, at 12:44 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:Hello  Everyone.I had some free time today, so I made these templates for my Legacy, Only one has been tested so far, but I do think most of these should work well for my uses.I can use these templates on All of my wood working equipment, both of my Legacy's as well the lathes I own.Note: I see and use templates not as the final part of turning, but as a general guide for basic shaping of my spindles.Making stainless steel templates is not all that hard, by using an abrasive cutting wheel, and some hand files + a wire wheel to remove any burs...  the process is pretty easy. (If anyone wants to know more, Please ask.)Tomorrow I hope to be able to try some of these out on some of my bone turning.Have a good night everyone.C.A.G.



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Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates

[Tim Ziegler]

Hey Curt,

They look like they turned out pretty cool .
Nice job. No reason they won't work for sure.
Great work.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Feb 11, 2024 at 11:44 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hello  Everyone.
>
> I had some free time today, so I made these templates for my Legacy, Only
> one has been tested so far, but I do think most of these should work well
> for my uses.
>
> I can use these templates on All of my wood working equipment, both of my
> Legacy's as well the lathes I own.
>
> Note: I see and use templates not as the final part of turning, but as a
> general guide for basic shaping of my spindles.
>
> Making stainless steel templates is not all that hard, by using an
> abrasive cutting wheel, and some hand files + a wire wheel to remove any
> burs...  the process is pretty easy. (If anyone wants to know more, Please
> ask.)
> Tomorrow I hope to be able to try some of these out on some of my bone
> turning.
> Have a good night everyone.
>
> C.A.G.
>
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