Re: Wiring diagram

[Richard Ellis]

Bill
Yes it's on a lead but where to hook it is the problem.
The control box that came with the Woodchuck has the lead coming out of the 
top. had a look inside to see if it is possible to change it,no 
way---unless I change the box, The wires are the problem if I mount on a 
swinging jib or even hang from the ceiling   Always ready to catch. 
Funny enough it was easier to place the box on the Woodchucks rails??   
However nothing is impossible!! 
Cheers Richard,  OH!! no news on the holes but plenty re: electrics

On Saturday, July 22, 2017 at 12:52:58 AM UTC+1, aussiman wrote:
>
> Why not have the controller floating on a lead and hook it where ever you 
> standing at the time
>
>  
>
> Bill 
>
>  
>
> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  [mailto:
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com ] *On Behalf Of 
> *Richard 
> Ellis
> *Sent:* Saturday, 22 July 2017 3:33 AM
> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills
> *Subject:* Re: Wiring diagram
>
>  
>
> Tim
>
> The drive motor is on but I just can't think where to put the control box. 
> Looks like it's going to be on the carriage -- but a bit prone to 
> get damaged in that position.
>
> The way I have the Revo mounted- it is fastened to a 3/4 " sheet of 
> good ply. That in it's turn in bolted to my workbench---a bolt at each 
> end.That allows me to swing the Revo out at rt.angles to my workbench, 
> if I remove one of the bolts. When at 90 degrees it gives me access to my 
> under  bench Router.
>
> Cheers
>
> Richard 
>
> On Friday, July 21, 2017 at 2:33:34 PM UTC+1, Tim wrote:
>
> Keep us posted.
>
> On Jul 21, 2017, at 2:50 AM, Richard Ellis <rchrd@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Tim
>
> That lovejoy sounds a good idea, I have had other machines that used that 
> system . It is a Dayton that I am changing from the Woodchuck to the Revo  
>
> Little bit of metal lathe work,welding and drilling fixing plates etc. 
> Easy job. Limit switches will need changing,awful type but that is about 
> all.
>
> So the Woodchuck will now be the one to have a new control for the 
> leadscrew. On hold for now.
>
> More later, when I have finished the conversion, it should make the Revo a 
> better tool. then it's back to wiring up the Woodchuck, that is for later 
> when I get all the components.
>
> Cheers
>
> Richard
>
> On Friday, July 21, 2017 at 9:54:01 AM UTC+1, Tim wrote:
>
> Hahahaha, yes about the voltage but everyone knows it's the amps that 
> kill! 
>
> So if you are working with the old woodchuck system, it uses a 90vdc 
> motor.  I would think the motor would still have the name plate.  The 
> motors where mostly sourced through a company called Dayton and sold here 
> in the states at a company called Grainger's.  
>
> The potentiometer is actually the speed and voltage converter.  It's been 
> discontinued for a long time.  Take a look inside the box, it's really 
> simple.
>
> The newer machines have a LoveJoy connector on the end of the shaft. It 
> has two metal components with rubber spider in between them.  For reference 
> https://catalog.farmchem.com/l09558 .  It works well.  The motor side 
> coupler slides away for free spinning.  The other side connects to a 5/8" 
> shaft that connects to the lead screw with a solid coupler.  Does that make 
> sense?  I think I can find a photo if you need one.
>
> Hope that helps a little.  
>
> Tim
>
> Sent from BlueMail <http://www.bluemail.me/r?b=10066> 
>
> On Jul 20, 2017, at 11:41 PM, Richard Ellis <rchrd@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Tim
>
> Thanks for the answer, If there has been no wiring diagram for the Legacy, 
> that is all I needed to know. I was a little surprised that no one asked 
> what power voltage I was thinking of using, could have been 12 or 24 volt 
> dc as i;e Windscreen wiper motors,.I don't think that would kill me ! ! !?? 
>
> I did smile to myself re the safety lessons, all good knowledge and I do 
> not get offended, so thanks to the others who responded.
>
> NOW ! Yesterday I started changing the Drive unit from the old Woodchuck 
> to the Revo. It is 110 volt of course and runs through the transformer 240 
> volt  The end of the leadscrew had been just cut off and the collar 
> complete with grub screw fastened,-- not good engineering in my 
> book,-hit and miss as to where the grub screw grips??
>
> More about it later
>
> Richard
>
> On Thursday, July 20, 2017 at 11:29:19 PM UTC+1, Tim wrote:
>
> Well I knew my generic answer was not going to be enough.  I'm not aware 
> of a wiring diagram for the legacy drive system.  It was all pre-wired and 
> the manuals only showed

RE: Wiring diagram

[Bill Bulkeley]

Why not have the controller floating on a lead and hook it where ever you 
standing at the time

 

Bill 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Ellis
Sent: Saturday, 22 July 2017 3:33 AM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills
Subject: Re: Wiring diagram

 

Tim

The drive motor is on but I just can't think where to put the control box. 
Looks like it's going to be on the carriage -- but a bit prone to get 
damaged in that position.

The way I have the Revo mounted- it is fastened to a 3/4 " sheet of good 
ply. That in it's turn in bolted to my workbench---a bolt at each 
end.That allows me to swing the Revo out at rt.angles to my workbench, if I 
remove one of the bolts. When at 90 degrees it gives me access to my under  
bench Router.

Cheers

Richard 

On Friday, July 21, 2017 at 2:33:34 PM UTC+1, Tim wrote:

Keep us posted.

On Jul 21, 2017, at 2:50 AM, Richard Ellis <rchrd@gmail.com  > 
wrote:

Tim

That lovejoy sounds a good idea, I have had other machines that used that 
system . It is a Dayton that I am changing from the Woodchuck to the Revo  

Little bit of metal lathe work,welding and drilling fixing plates etc. Easy 
job. Limit switches will need changing,awful type but that is about all.

So the Woodchuck will now be the one to have a new control for the leadscrew. 
On hold for now.

More later, when I have finished the conversion, it should make the Revo a 
better tool. then it's back to wiring up the Woodchuck, that is for later when 
I get all the components.

Cheers

Richard

On Friday, July 21, 2017 at 9:54:01 AM UTC+1, Tim wrote:

Hahahaha, yes about the voltage but everyone knows it's the amps that kill! 

So if you are working with the old woodchuck system, it uses a 90vdc motor.  I 
would think the motor would still have the name plate.  The motors where mostly 
sourced through a company called Dayton and sold here in the states at a 
company called Grainger's.  

The potentiometer is actually the speed and voltage converter.  It's been 
discontinued for a long time.  Take a look inside the box, it's really simple.

The newer machines have a LoveJoy connector on the end of the shaft. It has two 
metal components with rubber spider in between them.  For reference 
https://catalog.farmchem.com/l09558 .  It works well.  The motor side coupler 
slides away for free spinning.  The other side connects to a 5/8" shaft that 
connects to the lead screw with a solid coupler.  Does that make sense?  I 
think I can find a photo if you need one.

Hope that helps a little.  

Tim



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On Jul 20, 2017, at 11:41 PM, Richard Ellis <rchrd@gmail.com> wrote:

Tim

Thanks for the answer, If there has been no wiring diagram for the Legacy, that 
is all I needed to know. I was a little surprised that no one asked what power 
voltage I was thinking of using, could have been 12 or 24 volt dc as i;e 
Windscreen wiper motors,.I don't think that would kill me ! ! !?? 

I did smile to myself re the safety lessons, all good knowledge and I do not 
get offended, so thanks to the others who responded.

NOW ! Yesterday I started changing the Drive unit from the old Woodchuck to the 
Revo. It is 110 volt of course and runs through the transformer 240 volt  The 
end of the leadscrew had been just cut off and the collar complete with grub 
screw fastened,-- not good engineering in my book,-hit and miss as 
to where the grub screw grips??

More about it later

Richard

On Thursday, July 20, 2017 at 11:29:19 PM UTC+1, Tim wrote:

Well I knew my generic answer was not going to be enough.  I'm not aware of a 
wiring diagram for the legacy drive system.  It was all pre-wired and the 
manuals only showed where to and how to mount the components to the machine.

Since you are familiar with electronic, I'm not sure where you need help.  I 
can't give you a wiring diagram for components that I don't know that you are 
using.  

Tim



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On Jul 20, 2017, at 4:46 AM, Richard Ellis <rchrd@gmail.com> wrote:

Roger 
 I asked for a wiring diagram, No good looking at the wires ---I HAVE 
NONE regards safety, I have an always do take note !! However I do not 
think a wiring diagram as used by legacy is going to kill me. I have been 
involved with electrics for many years, A wiring diagram is what I am after

 

Richard

On Thursday, July 20, 2017 at 9:23:37 AM UTC+1, ITwoodwork wrote:

​Hi Guys

Given Tim's information any competent electrician should be able to investigate 
the wiring and draw a circuit diagram or schematic.  Otherwise leave the 
electrics alone, electricity can curl your hair if you get a shock, it can burn 
and even kill you. Treat with respect, probably more than you might give the 
wife or partner.

Roger & out.

 

PS I have had li

Re: Wiring diagram

[Richard Ellis]

Tim
The drive motor is on but I just can't think where to put the control box. 
Looks like it's going to be on the carriage -- but a bit prone to 
get damaged in that position.
The way I have the Revo mounted- it is fastened to a 3/4 " sheet of 
good ply. That in it's turn in bolted to my workbench---a bolt at each 
end.That allows me to swing the Revo out at rt.angles to my workbench, 
if I remove one of the bolts. When at 90 degrees it gives me access to my 
under  bench Router.
Cheers
Richard 

On Friday, July 21, 2017 at 2:33:34 PM UTC+1, Tim wrote:
>
> Keep us posted.
>
> On Jul 21, 2017, at 2:50 AM, Richard Ellis  > wrote:
>>
>> Tim
>> That lovejoy sounds a good idea, I have had other machines that used that 
>> system . It is a Dayton that I am changing from the Woodchuck to the Revo  
>> Little bit of metal lathe work,welding and drilling fixing plates etc. 
>> Easy job. Limit switches will need changing,awful type but that is about 
>> all.
>> So the Woodchuck will now be the one to have a new control for the 
>> leadscrew. On hold for now.
>> More later, when I have finished the conversion, it should make the Revo 
>> a better tool. then it's back to wiring up the Woodchuck, that is for later 
>> when I get all the components.
>> Cheers
>> Richard
>>
>> On Friday, July 21, 2017 at 9:54:01 AM UTC+1, Tim wrote:
>>>
>>> Hahahaha, yes about the voltage but everyone knows it's the amps that 
>>> kill! 
>>>
>>> So if you are working with the old woodchuck system, it uses a 90vdc 
>>> motor.  I would think the motor would still have the name plate.  The 
>>> motors where mostly sourced through a company called Dayton and sold here 
>>> in the states at a company called Grainger's.  
>>>
>>> The potentiometer is actually the speed and voltage converter.  It's 
>>> been discontinued for a long time.  Take a look inside the box, it's really 
>>> simple.
>>>
>>> The newer machines have a LoveJoy connector on the end of the shaft. It 
>>> has two metal components with rubber spider in between them.  For reference 
>>> https://catalog.farmchem.com/l09558 .  It works well.  The motor side 
>>> coupler slides away for free spinning.  The other side connects to a 5/8" 
>>> shaft that connects to the lead screw with a solid coupler.  Does that make 
>>> sense?  I think I can find a photo if you need one.
>>>
>>> Hope that helps a little.  
>>>
>>> Tim
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from BlueMail  
>>> On Jul 20, 2017, at 11:41 PM, Richard Ellis  wrote:

 Tim
 Thanks for the answer, If there has been no wiring diagram for the 
 Legacy, that is all I needed to know. I was a little surprised that no one 
 asked what power voltage I was thinking of using, could have been 12 or 24 
 volt dc as i;e Windscreen wiper motors,.I don't think that would kill me ! 
 ! !?? 
 I did smile to myself re the safety lessons, all good knowledge and I 
 do not get offended, so thanks to the others who responded.
 NOW ! Yesterday I started changing the Drive unit from the old 
 Woodchuck to the Revo. It is 110 volt of course and runs through the 
 transformer 240 volt  The end of the leadscrew had been just cut off and 
 the collar complete with grub screw fastened,-- not good 
 engineering in my book,-hit and miss as to where the grub screw grips??
 More about it later
 Richard

 On Thursday, July 20, 2017 at 11:29:19 PM UTC+1, Tim wrote:
>
> Well I knew my generic answer was not going to be enough.  I'm not 
> aware of a wiring diagram for the legacy drive system.  It was all 
> pre-wired and the manuals only showed where to and how to mount the 
> components to the machine.
>
> Since you are familiar with electronic, I'm not sure where you need 
> help.  I can't give you a wiring diagram for components that I don't know 
> that you are using.  
>
> Tim
>
>
> Sent from BlueMail  
> On Jul 20, 2017, at 4:46 AM, Richard Ellis  
> wrote:
>>
>> Roger 
>>  I asked for a wiring diagram, No good looking at the wires ---I 
>> HAVE NONE regards safety, I have an always do take note !! 
>> However 
>> I do not think a wiring diagram as used by legacy is going to kill me. I 
>> have been involved with electrics for many years, *A wiring diagram 
>> is what I am after*
>>
>> Richard
>>
>> On Thursday, July 20, 2017 at 9:23:37 AM UTC+1, ITwoodwork wrote:
>>>
>>> ​Hi Guys
>>>
>>> Given Tim's information any competent electrician should be able to 
>>> investigate the wiring and draw a circuit diagram or schematic.  
>>> Otherwise 
>>> leave the electrics alone, electricity can curl your hair if you get a 
>>> shock, it can burn and even kill you. Treat with respect, probably 

Re: Wiring diagram

[Tim Krause]

Keep us posted.

⁣

On Jul 21, 2017, 2:50 AM, at 2:50 AM, Richard Ellis  
wrote:
>Tim
>That lovejoy sounds a good idea, I have had other machines that used
>that 
>system . It is a Dayton that I am changing from the Woodchuck to the
>Revo  
>Little bit of metal lathe work,welding and drilling fixing plates etc.
>Easy 
>job. Limit switches will need changing,awful type but that is about
>all.
>So the Woodchuck will now be the one to have a new control for the 
>leadscrew. On hold for now.
>More later, when I have finished the conversion, it should make the
>Revo a 
>better tool. then it's back to wiring up the Woodchuck, that is for
>later 
>when I get all the components.
>Cheers
>Richard
>
>On Friday, July 21, 2017 at 9:54:01 AM UTC+1, Tim wrote:
>>
>> Hahahaha, yes about the voltage but everyone knows it's the amps that
>
>> kill! 
>>
>> So if you are working with the old woodchuck system, it uses a 90vdc 
>> motor.  I would think the motor would still have the name plate.  The
>
>> motors where mostly sourced through a company called Dayton and sold
>here 
>> in the states at a company called Grainger's.  
>>
>> The potentiometer is actually the speed and voltage converter.  It's
>been 
>> discontinued for a long time.  Take a look inside the box, it's
>really 
>> simple.
>>
>> The newer machines have a LoveJoy connector on the end of the shaft.
>It 
>> has two metal components with rubber spider in between them.  For
>reference 
>> https://catalog.farmchem.com/l09558 .  It works well.  The motor side
>
>> coupler slides away for free spinning.  The other side connects to a
>5/8" 
>> shaft that connects to the lead screw with a solid coupler.  Does
>that make 
>> sense?  I think I can find a photo if you need one.
>>
>> Hope that helps a little.  
>>
>> Tim
>>
>>
>> Sent from BlueMail  
>> On Jul 20, 2017, at 11:41 PM, Richard Ellis > > wrote:
>>>
>>> Tim
>>> Thanks for the answer, If there has been no wiring diagram for the 
>>> Legacy, that is all I needed to know. I was a little surprised that
>no one 
>>> asked what power voltage I was thinking of using, could have been 12
>or 24 
>>> volt dc as i;e Windscreen wiper motors,.I don't think that would
>kill me ! 
>>> ! !?? 
>>> I did smile to myself re the safety lessons, all good knowledge and
>I do 
>>> not get offended, so thanks to the others who responded.
>>> NOW ! Yesterday I started changing the Drive unit from the old
>Woodchuck 
>>> to the Revo. It is 110 volt of course and runs through the
>transformer 240 
>>> volt  The end of the leadscrew had been just cut off and the collar 
>>> complete with grub screw fastened,-- not good engineering in
>my 
>>> book,-hit and miss as to where the grub screw grips??
>>> More about it later
>>> Richard
>>>
>>> On Thursday, July 20, 2017 at 11:29:19 PM UTC+1, Tim wrote:

 Well I knew my generic answer was not going to be enough.  I'm not
>aware 
 of a wiring diagram for the legacy drive system.  It was all
>pre-wired and 
 the manuals only showed where to and how to mount the components to
>the 
 machine.

 Since you are familiar with electronic, I'm not sure where you need
>
 help.  I can't give you a wiring diagram for components that I
>don't know 
 that you are using.  

 Tim


 Sent from BlueMail  
 On Jul 20, 2017, at 4:46 AM, Richard Ellis 
>wrote:
>
> Roger 
>  I asked for a wiring diagram, No good looking at the wires
>---I 
> HAVE NONE regards safety, I have an always do take note !!
>However 
> I do not think a wiring diagram as used by legacy is going to kill
>me. I 
> have been involved with electrics for many years, *A wiring
>diagram is 
> what I am after*
>
> Richard
>
> On Thursday, July 20, 2017 at 9:23:37 AM UTC+1, ITwoodwork wrote:
>>
>> ​Hi Guys
>>
>> Given Tim's information any competent electrician should be able
>to 
>> investigate the wiring and draw a circuit diagram or schematic. 
>Otherwise 
>> leave the electrics alone, electricity can curl your hair if you
>get a 
>> shock, it can burn and even kill you. Treat with respect,
>probably more 
>> than you might give the wife or partner.
>>
>> Roger & out.
>>
>>
>> PS I have had live demonstrations of electric shocks!
>>
>>
>> Sent from TouchMail for Windows 10 
>>
>> ​
>>
>>
>> *From:* Bill Bulkeley
>> *Received:* 20/07/2017 09:13:12 +01:00
>> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
>>
>> I don’t think i have ever seen a wiring diagram for the drive
>motor, 
>> controller and limit switches
>>
>> Be nice to have it hope someone does and posts it
>>
>>  
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> *From:* 

Re: Wiring diagram

[Richard Ellis]

Tim
That lovejoy sounds a good idea, I have had other machines that used that 
system . It is a Dayton that I am changing from the Woodchuck to the Revo  
Little bit of metal lathe work,welding and drilling fixing plates etc. Easy 
job. Limit switches will need changing,awful type but that is about all.
So the Woodchuck will now be the one to have a new control for the 
leadscrew. On hold for now.
More later, when I have finished the conversion, it should make the Revo a 
better tool. then it's back to wiring up the Woodchuck, that is for later 
when I get all the components.
Cheers
Richard

On Friday, July 21, 2017 at 9:54:01 AM UTC+1, Tim wrote:
>
> Hahahaha, yes about the voltage but everyone knows it's the amps that 
> kill! 
>
> So if you are working with the old woodchuck system, it uses a 90vdc 
> motor.  I would think the motor would still have the name plate.  The 
> motors where mostly sourced through a company called Dayton and sold here 
> in the states at a company called Grainger's.  
>
> The potentiometer is actually the speed and voltage converter.  It's been 
> discontinued for a long time.  Take a look inside the box, it's really 
> simple.
>
> The newer machines have a LoveJoy connector on the end of the shaft. It 
> has two metal components with rubber spider in between them.  For reference 
> https://catalog.farmchem.com/l09558 .  It works well.  The motor side 
> coupler slides away for free spinning.  The other side connects to a 5/8" 
> shaft that connects to the lead screw with a solid coupler.  Does that make 
> sense?  I think I can find a photo if you need one.
>
> Hope that helps a little.  
>
> Tim
>
>
> Sent from BlueMail  
> On Jul 20, 2017, at 11:41 PM, Richard Ellis  > wrote:
>>
>> Tim
>> Thanks for the answer, If there has been no wiring diagram for the 
>> Legacy, that is all I needed to know. I was a little surprised that no one 
>> asked what power voltage I was thinking of using, could have been 12 or 24 
>> volt dc as i;e Windscreen wiper motors,.I don't think that would kill me ! 
>> ! !?? 
>> I did smile to myself re the safety lessons, all good knowledge and I do 
>> not get offended, so thanks to the others who responded.
>> NOW ! Yesterday I started changing the Drive unit from the old Woodchuck 
>> to the Revo. It is 110 volt of course and runs through the transformer 240 
>> volt  The end of the leadscrew had been just cut off and the collar 
>> complete with grub screw fastened,-- not good engineering in my 
>> book,-hit and miss as to where the grub screw grips??
>> More about it later
>> Richard
>>
>> On Thursday, July 20, 2017 at 11:29:19 PM UTC+1, Tim wrote:
>>>
>>> Well I knew my generic answer was not going to be enough.  I'm not aware 
>>> of a wiring diagram for the legacy drive system.  It was all pre-wired and 
>>> the manuals only showed where to and how to mount the components to the 
>>> machine.
>>>
>>> Since you are familiar with electronic, I'm not sure where you need 
>>> help.  I can't give you a wiring diagram for components that I don't know 
>>> that you are using.  
>>>
>>> Tim
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from BlueMail  
>>> On Jul 20, 2017, at 4:46 AM, Richard Ellis  wrote:

 Roger 
  I asked for a wiring diagram, No good looking at the wires ---I 
 HAVE NONE regards safety, I have an always do take note !! However 
 I do not think a wiring diagram as used by legacy is going to kill me. I 
 have been involved with electrics for many years, *A wiring diagram is 
 what I am after*

 Richard

 On Thursday, July 20, 2017 at 9:23:37 AM UTC+1, ITwoodwork wrote:
>
> ​Hi Guys
>
> Given Tim's information any competent electrician should be able to 
> investigate the wiring and draw a circuit diagram or schematic.  
> Otherwise 
> leave the electrics alone, electricity can curl your hair if you get a 
> shock, it can burn and even kill you. Treat with respect, probably more 
> than you might give the wife or partner.
>
> Roger & out.
>
>
> PS I have had live demonstrations of electric shocks!
>
>
> Sent from TouchMail for Windows 10 
>
> ​
>
>
> *From:* Bill Bulkeley
> *Received:* 20/07/2017 09:13:12 +01:00
> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
>
> I don’t think i have ever seen a wiring diagram for the drive motor, 
> controller and limit switches
>
> Be nice to have it hope someone does and posts it
>
>  
>
> Bill
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com [mailto:
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Richard Ellis
> *Sent:* Thursday, 20 July 2017 5:24 PM
> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills
> *Subject:* Wiring diagram
>
>  
>
> Hi All

Re: Wiring diagram

[Richard Ellis]

Tim
Thanks for the answer, If there has been no wiring diagram for the Legacy, 
that is all I needed to know. I was a little surprised that no one asked 
what power voltage I was thinking of using, could have been 12 or 24 volt 
dc as i;e Windscreen wiper motors,.I don't think that would kill me ! ! !?? 
I did smile to myself re the safety lessons, all good knowledge and I do 
not get offended, so thanks to the others who responded.
NOW ! Yesterday I started changing the Drive unit from the old Woodchuck to 
the Revo. It is 110 volt of course and runs through the transformer 240 
volt  The end of the leadscrew had been just cut off and the collar 
complete with grub screw fastened,-- not good engineering in my 
book,-hit and miss as to where the grub screw grips??
More about it later
Richard

On Thursday, July 20, 2017 at 11:29:19 PM UTC+1, Tim wrote:
>
> Well I knew my generic answer was not going to be enough.  I'm not aware 
> of a wiring diagram for the legacy drive system.  It was all pre-wired and 
> the manuals only showed where to and how to mount the components to the 
> machine.
>
> Since you are familiar with electronic, I'm not sure where you need help.  
> I can't give you a wiring diagram for components that I don't know that you 
> are using.  
>
> Tim
>
>
> Sent from BlueMail  
> On Jul 20, 2017, at 4:46 AM, Richard Ellis  > wrote:
>>
>> Roger 
>>  I asked for a wiring diagram, No good looking at the wires ---I HAVE 
>> NONE regards safety, I have an always do take note !! However I do 
>> not think a wiring diagram as used by legacy is going to kill me. I have 
>> been involved with electrics for many years, *A wiring diagram is what I 
>> am after*
>>
>> Richard
>>
>> On Thursday, July 20, 2017 at 9:23:37 AM UTC+1, ITwoodwork wrote:
>>>
>>> ​Hi Guys
>>>
>>> Given Tim's information any competent electrician should be able to 
>>> investigate the wiring and draw a circuit diagram or schematic.  Otherwise 
>>> leave the electrics alone, electricity can curl your hair if you get a 
>>> shock, it can burn and even kill you. Treat with respect, probably more 
>>> than you might give the wife or partner.
>>>
>>> Roger & out.
>>>
>>>
>>> PS I have had live demonstrations of electric shocks!
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from TouchMail for Windows 10 
>>>
>>> ​
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Bill Bulkeley
>>> *Received:* 20/07/2017 09:13:12 +01:00
>>> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
>>>
>>> I don’t think i have ever seen a wiring diagram for the drive motor, 
>>> controller and limit switches
>>>
>>> Be nice to have it hope someone does and posts it
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com [mailto:
>>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Richard Ellis
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, 20 July 2017 5:24 PM
>>> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills
>>> *Subject:* Wiring diagram
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Hi All
>>>
>>> I have now got a motor for my Revo, Leadscrew but am a bit stuck for 
>>> a wiring diagram, I assume they are the same for other Legacy non CNC 
>>> models.
>>>
>>> If any one has one that shows the control box and limit switches etc. 
>>> Can you post it on here or email me
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Re: Wiring diagram

[Tim Krause]

Well I knew my generic answer was not going to be enough.  I'm not aware of a 
wiring diagram for the legacy drive system.  It was all pre-wired and the 
manuals only showed where to and how to mount the components to the machine.

Since you are familiar with electronic, I'm not sure where you need help.  I 
can't give you a wiring diagram for components that I don't know that you are 
using.  

Tim


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On Jul 20, 2017, 4:46 AM, at 4:46 AM, Richard Ellis  
wrote:
>Roger 
>I asked for a wiring diagram, No good looking at the wires ---I
>HAVE 
>NONE regards safety, I have an always do take note !! However I
>do 
>not think a wiring diagram as used by legacy is going to kill me. I
>have 
>been involved with electrics for many years, *A wiring diagram is what
>I am 
>after*
>
>Richard
>
>On Thursday, July 20, 2017 at 9:23:37 AM UTC+1, ITwoodwork wrote:
>>
>> ​Hi Guys
>>
>> Given Tim's information any competent electrician should be able to 
>> investigate the wiring and draw a circuit diagram or schematic. 
>Otherwise 
>> leave the electrics alone, electricity can curl your hair if you get
>a 
>> shock, it can burn and even kill you. Treat with respect, probably
>more 
>> than you might give the wife or partner.
>>
>> Roger & out.
>>
>>
>> PS I have had live demonstrations of electric shocks!
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>> *From:* Bill Bulkeley
>> *Received:* 20/07/2017 09:13:12 +01:00
>> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com 
>>
>> I don’t think i have ever seen a wiring diagram for the drive motor, 
>> controller and limit switches
>>
>> Be nice to have it hope someone does and posts it
>>
>>  
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  [mailto:
>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com ] *On Behalf Of
>*Richard 
>> Ellis
>> *Sent:* Thursday, 20 July 2017 5:24 PM
>> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills
>> *Subject:* Wiring diagram
>>
>>  
>>
>> Hi All
>>
>> I have now got a motor for my Revo, Leadscrew but am a bit stuck
>for a 
>> wiring diagram, I assume they are the same for other Legacy non CNC
>models.
>>
>> If any one has one that shows the control box and limit switches etc.
>Can 
>> you post it on here or email me
>>
>> Thanks
>>
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Re: Wiring diagram

[Richard Ellis]

Roger 
 I asked for a wiring diagram, No good looking at the wires ---I HAVE 
NONE regards safety, I have an always do take note !! However I do 
not think a wiring diagram as used by legacy is going to kill me. I have 
been involved with electrics for many years, *A wiring diagram is what I am 
after*

Richard

On Thursday, July 20, 2017 at 9:23:37 AM UTC+1, ITwoodwork wrote:
>
> ​Hi Guys
>
> Given Tim's information any competent electrician should be able to 
> investigate the wiring and draw a circuit diagram or schematic.  Otherwise 
> leave the electrics alone, electricity can curl your hair if you get a 
> shock, it can burn and even kill you. Treat with respect, probably more 
> than you might give the wife or partner.
>
> Roger & out.
>
>
> PS I have had live demonstrations of electric shocks!
>
>
> Sent from TouchMail for Windows 10 
>
> ​
>
>
> *From:* Bill Bulkeley
> *Received:* 20/07/2017 09:13:12 +01:00
> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com 
>
> I don’t think i have ever seen a wiring diagram for the drive motor, 
> controller and limit switches
>
> Be nice to have it hope someone does and posts it
>
>  
>
> Bill
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  [mailto:
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com ] *On Behalf Of 
> *Richard 
> Ellis
> *Sent:* Thursday, 20 July 2017 5:24 PM
> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills
> *Subject:* Wiring diagram
>
>  
>
> Hi All
>
> I have now got a motor for my Revo, Leadscrew but am a bit stuck for a 
> wiring diagram, I assume they are the same for other Legacy non CNC models.
>
> If any one has one that shows the control box and limit switches etc. Can 
> you post it on here or email me
>
> Thanks
>
> Richard
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RE: Wiring diagram

[Tim Krause]

I considered doing one for the legacy, but I decided it was not worth doing 
since the speed control legacy used is no longer available and difficult to 
find. Plus the stock system makes it very difficult for wires to just get 
disconnected that there is very little chances of making a mistake adding a 
stock legacy drive system.  

Another problem, there are so many alternative speed controllers that make it 
difficult to make a precise diagram.

-TIM

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>controller and limit switches
>
>Be nice to have it hope someone does and posts it
>
> 
>
>Bill
>
> 
>
> 
>
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>Ellis
>Sent: Thursday, 20 July 2017 5:24 PM
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>Subject: Wiring diagram
>
> 
>
>Hi All
>
>I have now got a motor for my Revo, Leadscrew but am a bit stuck
>for a wiring diagram, I assume they are the same for other Legacy non
>CNC models.
>
>If any one has one that shows the control box and limit switches etc.
>Can you post it on here or email me
>
>Thanks
>
>Richard
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RE: Wiring diagram

[Bawdsey64]

​Hi Guys
Given Tim's information any competent electrician should be able to investigate 
the wiring and draw a circuit diagram or schematic.  Otherwise leave the 
electrics alone, electricity can curl your hair if you get a shock, it can burn 
and even kill you. Treat with respect, probably more than you might give the 
wife or partner.
Roger & out.

PS I have had live demonstrations of electric shocks!



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From: Bill Bulkeley
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To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
I don’t think i have ever seen a wiring diagram for the drive motor, controller 
and limit switches
Be nice to have it hope someone does and posts it
 
Bill
 
 
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I have now got a motor for my Revo, Leadscrew but am a bit stuck for a 
wiring diagram, I assume they are the same for other Legacy non CNC models.
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RE: Wiring diagram

[Bill Bulkeley]

I don’t think i have ever seen a wiring diagram for the drive motor, controller 
and limit switches

Be nice to have it hope someone does and posts it

 

Bill

 

 

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Hi All

I have now got a motor for my Revo, Leadscrew but am a bit stuck for a 
wiring diagram, I assume they are the same for other Legacy non CNC models.

If any one has one that shows the control box and limit switches etc. Can you 
post it on here or email me

Thanks

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Re: Wiring diagram

[Tim Krause]

Where are you stuck?  What kind of motor are you using?  In general terms a 
speed control includes a transformer to drop your house voltage to run the 
motor.  Legacy then used a limit switch to break the connection to the motor.  
They added an override switch to close the limit switch connection so you can 
back off the limit switch.  A dpst switch is used to control the direction of 
the motor.  It simply swaps the leads to the motor to change the direction.  Of 
course this only works on DC motors.  

More general conversation about various speed controls.  More advanced speed 
controllers use relays to change the motor directions and they have limit 
switch inputs to stop the motor.  These are much safer than the simple method 
that legacy used.  For our simple application, simple is not bad.

Finally, if you are not sure how you need to wire your motor, please seek the 
advice of a professional.  That is what help I can offer you at the moment.

-TIM

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>models.
>If any one has one that shows the control box and limit switches etc.
>Can 
>you post it on here or email me
>Thanks
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