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Re: Thin Stock support block dimensions

2023-02-16 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

Great job Mike, works just like it ought.DensonSent from Denson's iPhoneOn Feb 16, 2023, at 9:51 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:Good deal, with a pc of stock that long you may want the second one in there too. Then also lighter cuts and you will have it made.Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cellOn Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 7:54 PM Mike Newman  wrote:I was able to sneak out to the shop tonight to try out the thin stock support.  It worked almost perfect and much better than the first one I made.  Turned down a poplar blank for my first tapered walking stick and there was limited chatter.  Still a couple of things to pay attention to but definitely the way to go for me right now.<20230216_190339.jpg>On Wednesday, February 15, 2023 at 11:14:24 PM UTC-6 Curt George wrote:
Very nice, Mike.I think it should work well for you.Best of luck.C.A.G.





On Wednesday, February 15, 2023 at 06:44:51 PM EST, Mike Newman  wrote:



I finished my new thin stock support earlier tonight based on the info you guys provided.  I have not tried it yet but should work similar to the factory one.  I will throw another walking stick blank up on the LOM this weekend and see how it works.On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 10:48:26 PM UTC-6 Denson Ingram wrote:Yes sir you are welcome.DensonSent from my iPadOn Feb 13, 2023, at 9:40 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:Hey Denson thanks for jumping in on that. Great job.Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cellOn Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 5:49 PM 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:Mike those pieces are 2 1/4” w x 1 1/4” L x 1 1/4” thickDensonSent from Denson's iPhoneOn Feb 13, 2023, at 5:20 PM, Mike Newman  wrote:Does anyone already have the dimension for the hdpe blocks used on the factory thin stock support?  I finally found a block of the material that I can make my own, but wanted to get the dimensions.  Overall dimensions and then size/position of the v-notch should be all I need.  I will attach it to my cross member I used for my first trial design.  If anyone has one of the actual factory take a few measurements and post them or email me direct.  I can figure it out if nobody has a factory one, but thought I would quickly check before I go down that road?  thanks



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Re: Thin Stock support block dimensions

2023-02-13 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

Yes sir you are welcome.DensonSent from my iPadOn Feb 13, 2023, at 9:40 PM, Tim Ziegler wrote:Hey Denson thanks for jumping in on that. Great job.Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cellOn Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 5:49 PM 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote:Mike those pieces are 2 1/4” w x 1 1/4” L x 1 1/4” thickDensonSent from Denson's iPhoneOn Feb 13, 2023, at 5:20 PM, Mike Newman wrote:Does anyone already have the dimension for the hdpe blocks used on the factory thin stock support? I finally found a block of the material that I can make my own, but wanted to get the dimensions. Overall dimensions and then size/position of the v-notch should be all I need. I will attach it to my cross member I used for my first trial design. If anyone has one of the actual factory take a few measurements and post them or email me direct. I can figure it out if nobody has a factory one, but thought I would quickly check before I go down that road? thanks

Re: Thin Stock support block dimensions

2023-02-13 Thread Tim Ziegler

Hey Denson thanks for jumping in on that. Great job.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 5:49 PM 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
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> Mike those pieces are 2 1/4” w x 1 1/4” L x 1 1/4” thick
> Denson
> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>
> On Feb 13, 2023, at 5:20 PM, Mike Newman  wrote:
>
> Does anyone already have the dimension for the hdpe blocks used on the
> factory thin stock support?  I finally found a block of the material that I
> can make my own, but wanted to get the dimensions.  Overall dimensions and
> then size/position of the v-notch should be all I need.  I will attach it
> to my cross member I used for my first trial design.  If anyone has one of
> the actual factory take a few measurements and post them or email me
> direct.  I can figure it out if nobody has a factory one, but thought I
> would quickly check before I go down that road?  thanks
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Re: Thin Stock support block dimensions

2023-02-13 Thread Tim Ziegler

I would have it but not until tomorrow for sure.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

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On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 5:20 PM Mike Newman  wrote:

> Does anyone already have the dimension for the hdpe blocks used on the
> factory thin stock support?  I finally found a block of the material that I
> can make my own, but wanted to get the dimensions.  Overall dimensions and
> then size/position of the v-notch should be all I need.  I will attach it
> to my cross member I used for my first trial design.  If anyone has one of
> the actual factory take a few measurements and post them or email me
> direct.  I can figure it out if nobody has a factory one, but thought I
> would quickly check before I go down that road?  thanks
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Re: Thin Stock support block dimensions

2023-02-13 Thread Mike Newman

thanks for the info both dim/tailstock reference.  Makes perfect sense on 
using the tail stock as a reference to go with the overall dim provided by 
Denson.  
On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 6:30:36 PM UTC-6 Curt George wrote:

> Mike.
> A simple way to make your own steady rest is to make the cross members 
> first. then USING those mounted to the Legacy's rails, you can make your 
> blocks, By using your tailstock as a reference point, mark the steady 
> blocks so the center point of the tail stock is the middle of the V/ center 
> of the steady rest blocks.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 06:49:27 PM EST, 'Denson Ingram' via 
> Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote: 
>
>
> Mike those pieces are 2 1/4” w x 1 1/4” L x 1 1/4” thick
> Denson
> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>
> On Feb 13, 2023, at 5:20 PM, Mike Newman  wrote:
>
> Does anyone already have the dimension for the hdpe blocks used on the 
> factory thin stock support?  I finally found a block of the material that I 
> can make my own, but wanted to get the dimensions.  Overall dimensions and 
> then size/position of the v-notch should be all I need.  I will attach it 
> to my cross member I used for my first trial design.  If anyone has one of 
> the actual factory take a few measurements and post them or email me 
> direct.  I can figure it out if nobody has a factory one, but thought I 
> would quickly check before I go down that road?  thanks
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Re: Thin Stock support block dimensions

2023-02-13 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

Mike.A simple way to make your own steady rest is to make the cross members
first. then USING those mounted to the Legacy's rails, you can make your
blocks, By using your tailstock as a reference point, mark the steady blocks so
the center point of the tail stock is the middle of the V/ center of the steady
rest blocks.
C.A.G.
On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 06:49:27 PM EST, 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy
Ornamental Mills wrote:

Mike those pieces are 2 1/4” w x 1 1/4” L x 1 1/4” thick
Denson
Sent from Denson's iPhone

On Feb 13, 2023, at 5:20 PM, Mike Newman wrote:

Does anyone already have the dimension for the hdpe blocks used on the factory
thin stock support? I finally found a block of the material that I can make my
own, but wanted to get the dimensions. Overall dimensions and then
size/position of the v-notch should be all I need. I will attach it to my
cross member I used for my first trial design. If anyone has one of the actual
factory take a few measurements and post them or email me direct. I can figure
it out if nobody has a factory one, but thought I would quickly check before I
go down that road? thanks

Re: Thin Stock support block dimensions

2023-02-13 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

Mike those pieces are 2 1/4” w x 1 1/4” L x 1 1/4” thickDensonSent from Denson's iPhoneOn Feb 13, 2023, at 5:20 PM, Mike Newman  wrote:Does anyone already have the dimension for the hdpe blocks used on the factory thin stock support?  I finally found a block of the material that I can make my own, but wanted to get the dimensions.  Overall dimensions and then size/position of the v-notch should be all I need.  I will attach it to my cross member I used for my first trial design.  If anyone has one of the actual factory take a few measurements and post them or email me direct.  I can figure it out if nobody has a factory one, but thought I would quickly check before I go down that road?  thanks



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Re: Thin Stock support-thin stock follower-vertical Bench Vise

2019-06-04 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

I wish you Luck Tim.
I will keep my eyes open for you...Take care.
C.A.G.
On Tuesday, June 4, 2019, 8:12:23 AM EDT, Tim Ziegler
wrote:

STILL LOOKING!

For any of you out there that have these parts and are possibly thinking you
don't use them, I'd be interested in them.I know I posted this before, but I
really could use the:
Thin Stock SupportThin Stock FollowerVertical Bench Vise
Wouldn't mind finding a 4X Gear Upgrade too. I am really trying to zero in on
more uses for my LOM 1200 for my business and of course to play a bit too.
Thanks
Kind regards,
Tim of ZWW&S

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Re: Thin Stock Support

2012-12-02 Thread Cole Andrews

I will try to post some pictures  if I can  get my computer to work.
On Dec 2, 2012 9:29 PM, "curt george"  wrote:
>
> Thanks Gene
> It sounds pretty good, If you can find it, please copy and post the video
to the group?
> I too will look for it as well.
> I have some ideas that I will be also tiring ,( Lets see if I can make a
better mouse trap?) (so to speak.)  ;-) .
> What I was attempting to do was make a ribbon twist turning.I've done
this type of turning before but not on the length  ( 5' ) and it was a
years ago since I last tried this type of cutting.
> To cut the ribbon twist you cut from the side of the spindle with a long
cutter/router bit, I went form 2 1/4" to something close to 3/4" on a taper
before I stopped.although I was taking light cuts, the vibration was to
much.
> I know this was an extreme turning but ... it was just for fun. (in this
case No Fun. since it did not turn out.) ;-(
> Any ideas on making a better steady rest Please let me know? I will let
you all know how everything works out latter.
> Have a good night all.
> C.A.G.
>
>
> - Original Message -
>>
>> From: Gene
>> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> Cc: Legacy-Ornamental-Mills@googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2012 8:17 PM
>> Subject: Re: Thin Stock Support
>>
>> Curt:
>> I saw a bit I thank on U tube regarding this problem.  I will try to
find it again. anyway the gentlemen made a holder  like the one Tim  is
writing about.
>> Differance being the holder is mounted to the front of the router
table.  About 2 or 3" from the bit.  It moves with the table so no
vibration will get to the
>> bit before it is cut.  Nice thing about this is it is always out of the
way as you mill a long project.
>> Gene
>> "
>> On Wednesday, October 17, 2012 11:28:48 PM UTC-4, Tim wrote:
>>>
>>> I saw this tonight over on Legacy's cnc forum from Dan1931.   He said
it was ok to share this idea with others.
>>>
--
>>>
>>>
>>> Here is a center rest I designed and use canes and other thin work. The
cane in the picture is 1.5 in dia. by 32" long. Done with a barley twist
with along spiral. I used a 1" barley bit set for a 4" bit twist so it
would not have a lot of spring. I then cut thru wiht a .375 Dia end mill.
>>> I made the carrier from 1/2 Baltic Birch with reinforced corners. I cut
the adjustment slots on my Artisan mill. The white plastic is HDPE. It is
available from Tap Plastics. Cost only $5.00.
>>> The plastic parts are 7 " long so there would not be any vibration or
bumping. It is always in contact with the part. I cut small V in the
Plastic to hold the part and have 1.25 in spacing between the blocks. This
allowed me to cut with the 1" barley twist bit while still supporting the
Cane. I provides both lateral and vertical support.
>>> Please excuse the quality of the picture. I had to reduce the pixels to
get the system to accept it.
>>>

>>>
>>> This looks like an affordable flexible solution.  What do you guys
think?
>>>
>>> -Tim
>>>
>>>
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Re: Thin Stock Support

2012-12-02 Thread curt george

Thanks Gene
It sounds pretty good, If you can find it, please copy and post the video to 
the group?
I too will look for it as well.
I have some ideas that I will be also tiring ,( Lets see if I can make a better 
mouse trap?) (so to speak.)  ;-) . 
What I was attempting to do was make a ribbon twist turning.I've done this type 
of turning before but not on the length  ( 5' ) and it was a years ago since I 
last tried this type of cutting. 
To cut the ribbon twist you cut from the side of the spindle with a long 
cutter/router bit, I went form 2 1/4" to something close to 3/4" on a taper 
before I stopped.although I was taking light cuts, the vibration was to much.
I know this was an extreme turning but ... it was just for fun. (in this case 
No Fun. since it did not turn out.) ;-(
Any ideas on making a better steady rest Please let me know? I will let you all 
know how everything works out latter.
Have a good night all.
C.A.G.


- Original Message - 
  From: Gene 
  To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
  Cc: Legacy-Ornamental-Mills@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2012 8:17 PM
  Subject: Re: Thin Stock Support


  Curt:
  I saw a bit I thank on U tube regarding this problem.  I will try to find it 
again. anyway the gentlemen made a holder  like the one Tim  is writing about.
  Differance being the holder is mounted to the front of the router table.  
About 2 or 3" from the bit.  It moves with the table so no vibration will get 
to the 
  bit before it is cut.  Nice thing about this is it is always out of the way 
as you mill a long project.  
  Gene
  "
  On Wednesday, October 17, 2012 11:28:48 PM UTC-4, Tim wrote:
I saw this tonight over on Legacy's cnc forum from Dan1931.   He said it 
was ok to share this idea with others.  

--

  

Here is a center rest I designed and use canes and other thin work. The 
cane in the picture is 1.5 in dia. by 32" long. Done with a barley twist with 
along spiral. I used a 1" barley bit set for a 4" bit twist so it would not 
have a lot of spring. I then cut thru wiht a .375 Dia end mill.
I made the carrier from 1/2 Baltic Birch with reinforced corners. I cut the 
adjustment slots on my Artisan mill. The white plastic is HDPE. It is available 
from Tap Plastics. Cost only $5.00.
The plastic parts are 7 " long so there would not be any vibration or 
bumping. It is always in contact with the part. I cut small V in the Plastic to 
hold the part and have 1.25 in spacing between the blocks. This allowed me to 
cut with the 1" barley twist bit while still supporting the Cane. I provides 
both lateral and vertical support.
Please excuse the quality of the picture. I had to reduce the pixels to get 
the system to accept it.



This looks like an affordable flexible solution.  What do you guys think?

-Tim



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Re: Thin Stock Support

2012-12-02 Thread Gene

Curt:
I saw a bit I thank on U tube regarding this problem.  I will try to find 
it again. anyway the gentlemen made a holder  like the one Tim  is writing 
about.
Differance being the holder is mounted to the front of the router table.  
About 2 or 3" from the bit.  It moves with the table so no vibration will 
get to the 
bit before it is cut.  Nice thing about this is it is always out of the way 
as you mill a long project.  
Gene
"
On Wednesday, October 17, 2012 11:28:48 PM UTC-4, Tim wrote:

>  I saw this tonight over on Legacy's cnc forum from Dan1931.   He said it 
> was ok to share this idea with others.  
>
> --
>
>  
> Here is a center rest I designed and use canes and other thin work. The 
> cane in the picture is 1.5 in dia. by 32" long. Done with a barley twist 
> with along spiral. I used a 1" barley bit set for a 4" bit twist so it 
> would not have a lot of spring. I then cut thru wiht a .375 Dia end mill.
> I made the carrier from 1/2 Baltic Birch with reinforced corners. I cut 
> the adjustment slots on my Artisan mill. The white plastic is HDPE. It is 
> available from Tap Plastics. Cost only $5.00.
> The plastic parts are 7 " long so there would not be any vibration or 
> bumping. It is always in contact with the part. I cut small V in the 
> Plastic to hold the part and have 1.25 in spacing between the blocks. This 
> allowed me to cut with the 1" barley twist bit while still supporting the 
> Cane. I provides both lateral and vertical support.
> Please excuse the quality of the picture. I had to reduce the pixels to 
> get the system to accept it.
>
> 
>  
> This looks like an affordable flexible solution.  What do you guys think?
>  
> -Tim
>  
>  
>

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Re: Thin Stock Support

2012-10-18 Thread Barry Clarke

Thank  You
On 2012-10-18, at 8:22 PM, Tim Krause  wrote:

> That plastic is really common.  Cutting boards are made out of the same 
> material.  You are correct on your assumption.
>  
> -Tim
>  
> 
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Re: Thin Stock Support

2012-10-18 Thread Tim Krause

That plastic is really common.  Cutting boards are made out of the same 
material.  You are correct on your assumption.

-Tim
 

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Re: Thin Stock Support

2012-10-18 Thread Barry

l assume that the V is cut on the long side. lf you can't find the plastic 
could you substitute wood ? Excellent Post !! 

On Wednesday, 17 October 2012 23:28:48 UTC-4, Tim wrote:
>
>  I saw this tonight over on Legacy's cnc forum from Dan1931.   He said it 
> was ok to share this idea with others.  
>
> --
>
>  
> Here is a center rest I designed and use canes and other thin work. The 
> cane in the picture is 1.5 in dia. by 32" long. Done with a barley twist 
> with along spiral. I used a 1" barley bit set for a 4" bit twist so it 
> would not have a lot of spring. I then cut thru wiht a .375 Dia end mill.
> I made the carrier from 1/2 Baltic Birch with reinforced corners. I cut 
> the adjustment slots on my Artisan mill. The white plastic is HDPE. It is 
> available from Tap Plastics. Cost only $5.00.
> The plastic parts are 7 " long so there would not be any vibration or 
> bumping. It is always in contact with the part. I cut small V in the 
> Plastic to hold the part and have 1.25 in spacing between the blocks. This 
> allowed me to cut with the 1" barley twist bit while still supporting the 
> Cane. I provides both lateral and vertical support.
> Please excuse the quality of the picture. I had to reduce the pixels to 
> get the system to accept it.
>
> 
>  
> This looks like an affordable flexible solution.  What do you guys think?
>  
> -Tim
>  
>  
>

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Re: Thin Stock Support

2012-10-18 Thread Bill Bulkeley

looks good to me can you post a bigger clearer pic or is that the bes one there 
is 

Bill B
  - Original Message - 
  From: Tim Krause 
  To: Legacy-Ornamental-Mills@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 2:30 PM
  Subject: Thin Stock Support

  I saw this tonight over on Legacy's cnc forum from Dan1931.   He said it was 
ok to share this idea with others.  

--

  Here is a center rest I designed and use canes and other thin work. The cane 
in the picture is 1.5 in dia. by 32" long. Done with a barley twist with along 
spiral. I used a 1" barley bit set for a 4" bit twist so it would not have a 
lot of spring. I then cut thru wiht a .375 Dia end mill.
  I made the carrier from 1/2 Baltic Birch with reinforced corners. I cut the 
adjustment slots on my Artisan mill. The white plastic is HDPE. It is available 
from Tap Plastics. Cost only $5.00.
  The plastic parts are 7 " long so there would not be any vibration or 
bumping. It is always in contact with the part. I cut small V in the Plastic to 
hold the part and have 1.25 in spacing between the blocks. This allowed me to 
cut with the 1" barley twist bit while still supporting the Cane. I provides 
both lateral and vertical support.
  Please excuse the quality of the picture. I had to reduce the pixels to get 
the system to accept it.

  This looks like an affordable flexible solution.  What do you guys think?

  -Tim

  -- 

-- 

<>

Re: Thin Stock Support

2012-10-18 Thread curt george

Good morning everyone, ;-)
this is an old topic, But nicely done, this stock support can be made easily by 
anyone who owns a Legacy, My hat is off to Dan1931. he did a good job.
This is a good reminder  to everyone,that we all can use our machines 
better,and we do not need to spend an arm and a leg to buy things that we need. 
We can make much of what is needed.
Very Nice! Thank you Tim, for posting this one. it is a good find. and a Great 
Reminder. Look what you can do!  Its a good way to start the day! ;-)
.

C.A.G.







- Original Message - 
  From: Tim Krause 
  To: Legacy-Ornamental-Mills@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 11:30 PM
  Subject: Thin Stock Support


  I saw this tonight over on Legacy's cnc forum from Dan1931.   He said it was 
ok to share this idea with others.  
  
--



  Here is a center rest I designed and use canes and other thin work. The cane 
in the picture is 1.5 in dia. by 32" long. Done with a barley twist with along 
spiral. I used a 1" barley bit set for a 4" bit twist so it would not have a 
lot of spring. I then cut thru wiht a .375 Dia end mill.
  I made the carrier from 1/2 Baltic Birch with reinforced corners. I cut the 
adjustment slots on my Artisan mill. The white plastic is HDPE. It is available 
from Tap Plastics. Cost only $5.00.
  The plastic parts are 7 " long so there would not be any vibration or 
bumping. It is always in contact with the part. I cut small V in the Plastic to 
hold the part and have 1.25 in spacing between the blocks. This allowed me to 
cut with the 1" barley twist bit while still supporting the Cane. I provides 
both lateral and vertical support.
  Please excuse the quality of the picture. I had to reduce the pixels to get 
the system to accept it.
  


  This looks like an affordable flexible solution.  What do you guys think?

  -Tim



  -- 
   
   

-- 


<>

Re: thin stock support

2011-06-30 Thread Tim Krause

You know, I can make any bracket that comes to mind.   Anyone can contact me
off list and lets see if we can make a deal.  I offer drafting services,
fabrication and ideas to get your project moving in the right direction.
Your only limitation is communication :-)

-Tim


- Original Message - 
From: "Bill Bulkeley" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 7:30 PM
Subject: Re: thin stock support


> if legacy doesn't make them any more then maybe Tim can or similar. sounds
> like a few out there might like some
> what do you think
> Bill
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "curt george" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 11:28 AM
> Subject: Re: thin stock support
>
>
> > Thanks Tim
> > Those brackets are the real trick to making  this stock support
work.(Not
> > trying to take anything away from you Bill, Great job on this one.) But
> > Having those two little tangs  hold the brackets in place with only one
> > mounting screw to mount it on the Legacy rails are A Real SLICK Idea! I
> > have no idea who came up with that! But who ever did is one pretty smart
> > Cookie in my books.
> > Legacy did not have anything like that when I bought my unit. Those
> > brackets alone would have taken up much of the slop with in the rails,
> > that the earlier Legacy's had.  "Man" Just think about it,  with those
> > brackets alone, we might have been able to keep many of our "Fast
Eddies"
> > Happy Legacy customer back then. "O"Well that's water under the bridge
> > now!
> > Just my two cents worth of it. I like it! Its ESP (Efficient,Simple, and
> > Practical.) You cant ask for anything more.
> > That alone makes it an A+ in my book. ;-)
> >
> > C.A.G.
> > - Original Message - 
> > From: "Tim Krause" 
> > To: 
> > Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 7:39 PM
> > Subject: Re: thin stock support
> >
> >
> >> The tall bracket that holds the wheels are from the template upgrade
kit
> >> like Bill said.  The other angle bracket with two tabs are used to hold
> >> the
> >> vertical and horizontal vises in place.   The wheels look like roller
> >> blade
> >> wheels that can be bought at sporting goods stores, or you can get them
> >> off
> >> a used pair of skates at most thrift stores.  The bearings are
typically
> >> 8mm
> >> which mount very easily to some 5/16" all- thread or bolt.  It should
> >> take
> >> very little time to make a bracket to hold the wheels.  I would think
you
> >> could get away with only one bracket to hold the wheels.
> >>
> >> -Tim
> >>
> >>
> >> - Original Message - 
> >> From: "curt george" 
> >> To: 
> >> Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 11:16 AM
> >> Subject: Re: thin stock support
> >>
> >>
> >>> Hello Bill
> >>> in my manual it states that I can up-grade my machine with longer
> >>> rail
> >>> but there are not pictures or anything other than the statement.
> >>> It looks like you got everything that you've got, right off the shelf,
> >>> so
> >> to
> >>> speak. Even if the parts are still available its hard to order parts
> >>> with
> >>> out seeing if they are the same as what you have. (In short no order
no.
> >> No
> >>> part number.No names,or ??? Makes it very hard to get what you want.)
> >>> I will do some home work and see if I can come up with something. ;-)
> >>> Thanks for sharing with us.
> >>>
> >>> C.A.G.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> - Original Message - 
> >>> From: "Bill Bulkeley" 
> >>> To: 
> >>> Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 12:40 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: thin stock support
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> > the 90 degree brackets I ordered from legacy they were used on a
older
> >>> > model machine the 200 I believe it was. and the strait brackets are
> >>> > from
> >>> > the template rail mounting kit an extra legacy used to sell, I don't
> >> know
> >>> > if they would still have any I bought several of them once, it was
the
> >>> > cheapest way of getting some extra rail at the time to lengthen my
> >>> > model
> >>> > 900.  each one came with the brackets so I ended up with several of
> >> them,
> >>> > t

Re: thin stock support

2011-06-30 Thread Bill Bulkeley

if legacy doesn't make them any more then maybe Tim can or similar. sounds 
like a few out there might like some

what do you think
Bill

- Original Message - 
From: "curt george" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 11:28 AM
Subject: Re: thin stock support

Thanks Tim
Those brackets are the real trick to making  this stock support work.(Not 
trying to take anything away from you Bill, Great job on this one.) But 
Having those two little tangs  hold the brackets in place with only one 
mounting screw to mount it on the Legacy rails are A Real SLICK Idea! I 
have no idea who came up with that! But who ever did is one pretty smart 
Cookie in my books.
Legacy did not have anything like that when I bought my unit. Those 
brackets alone would have taken up much of the slop with in the rails, 
that the earlier Legacy's had.  "Man" Just think about it,  with those 
brackets alone, we might have been able to keep many of our "Fast Eddies" 
Happy Legacy customer back then. "O"Well that's water under the bridge 
now!
Just my two cents worth of it. I like it! Its ESP (Efficient,Simple, and 
Practical.) You cant ask for anything more.

That alone makes it an A+ in my book. ;-)

C.A.G.
- Original Message - 
From: "Tim Krause" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 7:39 PM
Subject: Re: thin stock support

The tall bracket that holds the wheels are from the template upgrade kit
like Bill said.  The other angle bracket with two tabs are used to hold 
the
vertical and horizontal vises in place.   The wheels look like roller 
blade
wheels that can be bought at sporting goods stores, or you can get them 
off
a used pair of skates at most thrift stores.  The bearings are typically 
8mm
which mount very easily to some 5/16" all- thread or bolt.  It should 
take

very little time to make a bracket to hold the wheels.  I would think you
could get away with only one bracket to hold the wheels.

-Tim

- Original Message - 
From: "curt george" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 11:16 AM
Subject: Re: thin stock support

Hello Bill
in my manual it states that I can up-grade my machine with longer 
rail

but there are not pictures or anything other than the statement.
It looks like you got everything that you've got, right off the shelf, 
so

to
speak. Even if the parts are still available its hard to order parts 
with

out seeing if they are the same as what you have. (In short no order no.

No

part number.No names,or ??? Makes it very hard to get what you want.)
I will do some home work and see if I can come up with something. ;-)
Thanks for sharing with us.

C.A.G.

- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill Bulkeley" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 12:40 PM
Subject: Re: thin stock support

> the 90 degree brackets I ordered from legacy they were used on a older
> model machine the 200 I believe it was. and the strait brackets are 
> from

> the template rail mounting kit an extra legacy used to sell, I don't

know

> if they would still have any I bought several of them once, it was the
> cheapest way of getting some extra rail at the time to lengthen my 
> model

> 900.  each one came with the brackets so I ended up with several of

them,
> there should be pictures of the kit in your legacy manual that came 
> with

> the machine.I'm sure you guys over there would have a lot easier job
> getting these parts now if
> available than I would way over here in Australia
> Bill
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Groovy Wood LLC" 

> To: 
> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 2:20 AM
> Subject: RE: thin stock support
>
>
>> Did you buy them or did they come with you machine? I don't have any

that

>> look like that and defiantly no extras that look like it.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Greg
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Re: thin stock support

2011-06-30 Thread curt george


Thanks Tim
Those brackets are the real trick to making  this stock support work.(Not 
trying to take anything away from you Bill, Great job on this one.) But 
Having those two little tangs  hold the brackets in place with only one 
mounting screw to mount it on the Legacy rails are A Real SLICK Idea! I have 
no idea who came up with that! But who ever did is one pretty smart Cookie 
in my books.
Legacy did not have anything like that when I bought my unit. Those brackets 
alone would have taken up much of the slop with in the rails, that the 
earlier Legacy's had.  "Man" Just think about it,  with those brackets 
alone, we might have been able to keep many of our "Fast Eddies" Happy 
Legacy customer back then. "O"Well that's water under the bridge now!
Just my two cents worth of it. I like it! Its ESP (Efficient,Simple, and 
Practical.) You cant ask for anything more.

That alone makes it an A+ in my book. ;-)

C.A.G.
- Original Message - 
From: "Tim Krause" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 7:39 PM
Subject: Re: thin stock support



The tall bracket that holds the wheels are from the template upgrade kit
like Bill said.  The other angle bracket with two tabs are used to hold 
the
vertical and horizontal vises in place.   The wheels look like roller 
blade
wheels that can be bought at sporting goods stores, or you can get them 
off
a used pair of skates at most thrift stores.  The bearings are typically 
8mm

which mount very easily to some 5/16" all- thread or bolt.  It should take
very little time to make a bracket to hold the wheels.  I would think you
could get away with only one bracket to hold the wheels.

-Tim


- Original Message - 
From: "curt george" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 11:16 AM
Subject: Re: thin stock support



Hello Bill
in my manual it states that I can up-grade my machine with longer 
rail

but there are not pictures or anything other than the statement.
It looks like you got everything that you've got, right off the shelf, so

to

speak. Even if the parts are still available its hard to order parts with
out seeing if they are the same as what you have. (In short no order no.

No

part number.No names,or ??? Makes it very hard to get what you want.)
I will do some home work and see if I can come up with something. ;-)
Thanks for sharing with us.

C.A.G.



- Original Message - 
From: "Bill Bulkeley" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 12:40 PM
Subject: Re: thin stock support


> the 90 degree brackets I ordered from legacy they were used on a older
> model machine the 200 I believe it was. and the strait brackets are 
> from

> the template rail mounting kit an extra legacy used to sell, I don't

know

> if they would still have any I bought several of them once, it was the
> cheapest way of getting some extra rail at the time to lengthen my 
> model

> 900.  each one came with the brackets so I ended up with several of

them,
> there should be pictures of the kit in your legacy manual that came 
> with

> the machine.I'm sure you guys over there would have a lot easier job
> getting these parts now if
> available than I would way over here in Australia
> Bill
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Groovy Wood LLC" 

> To: 
> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 2:20 AM
> Subject: RE: thin stock support
>
>
>> Did you buy them or did they come with you machine? I don't have any

that

>> look like that and defiantly no extras that look like it.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Greg
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Re: thin stock support

2011-06-30 Thread Tim Krause

The tall bracket that holds the wheels are from the template upgrade kit
like Bill said.  The other angle bracket with two tabs are used to hold the
vertical and horizontal vises in place.   The wheels look like roller blade
wheels that can be bought at sporting goods stores, or you can get them off
a used pair of skates at most thrift stores.  The bearings are typically 8mm
which mount very easily to some 5/16" all- thread or bolt.  It should take
very little time to make a bracket to hold the wheels.  I would think you
could get away with only one bracket to hold the wheels.

-Tim


- Original Message - 
From: "curt george" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 11:16 AM
Subject: Re: thin stock support


> Hello Bill
> in my manual it states that I can up-grade my machine with longer rail
> but there are not pictures or anything other than the statement.
> It looks like you got everything that you've got, right off the shelf, so
to
> speak. Even if the parts are still available its hard to order parts with
> out seeing if they are the same as what you have. (In short no order no.
No
> part number.No names,or ??? Makes it very hard to get what you want.)
> I will do some home work and see if I can come up with something. ;-)
> Thanks for sharing with us.
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Bill Bulkeley" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 12:40 PM
> Subject: Re: thin stock support
>
>
> > the 90 degree brackets I ordered from legacy they were used on a older
> > model machine the 200 I believe it was. and the strait brackets are from
> > the template rail mounting kit an extra legacy used to sell, I don't
know
> > if they would still have any I bought several of them once, it was the
> > cheapest way of getting some extra rail at the time to lengthen my model
> > 900.  each one came with the brackets so I ended up with several of
them,
> > there should be pictures of the kit in your legacy manual that came with
> > the machine.I'm sure you guys over there would have a lot easier job
> > getting these parts now if
> > available than I would way over here in Australia
> > Bill
> > - Original Message - 
> > From: "Groovy Wood LLC" 
> > To: 
> > Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 2:20 AM
> > Subject: RE: thin stock support
> >
> >
> >> Did you buy them or did they come with you machine? I don't have any
that
> >> look like that and defiantly no extras that look like it.
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >> Greg
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Re: thin stock support

2011-06-30 Thread Bill Bulkeley

knowing legacy as i do good luck
Bill

- Original Message - 
From: "curt george" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 4:16 AM
Subject: Re: thin stock support

Hello Bill
in my manual it states that I can up-grade my machine with longer rail 
but there are not pictures or anything other than the statement.
It looks like you got everything that you've got, right off the shelf, so 
to speak. Even if the parts are still available its hard to order parts 
with out seeing if they are the same as what you have. (In short no order 
no. No part number.No names,or ??? Makes it very hard to get what you 
want.)

I will do some home work and see if I can come up with something. ;-)
Thanks for sharing with us.

C.A.G.

- Original Message - 
From: "Bill Bulkeley" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 12:40 PM
Subject: Re: thin stock support

the 90 degree brackets I ordered from legacy they were used on a older 
model machine the 200 I believe it was. and the strait brackets are from 
the template rail mounting kit an extra legacy used to sell, I don't know 
if they would still have any I bought several of them once, it was the 
cheapest way of getting some extra rail at the time to lengthen my model 
900.  each one came with the brackets so I ended up with several of them, 
there should be pictures of the kit in your legacy manual that came with 
the machine.I'm sure you guys over there would have a lot easier job 
getting these parts now if

available than I would way over here in Australia
Bill
- Original Message - 
From: "Groovy Wood LLC" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 2:20 AM
Subject: RE: thin stock support

Did you buy them or did they come with you machine? I don't have any 
that

look like that and defiantly no extras that look like it.

Thanks
Greg

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Re: thin stock support

2011-06-30 Thread curt george


Hello Bill
in my manual it states that I can up-grade my machine with longer rail 
but there are not pictures or anything other than the statement.
It looks like you got everything that you've got, right off the shelf, so to 
speak. Even if the parts are still available its hard to order parts with 
out seeing if they are the same as what you have. (In short no order no. No 
part number.No names,or ??? Makes it very hard to get what you want.)

I will do some home work and see if I can come up with something. ;-)
Thanks for sharing with us.

C.A.G.



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Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 12:40 PM
Subject: Re: thin stock support


the 90 degree brackets I ordered from legacy they were used on a older 
model machine the 200 I believe it was. and the strait brackets are from 
the template rail mounting kit an extra legacy used to sell, I don't know 
if they would still have any I bought several of them once, it was the 
cheapest way of getting some extra rail at the time to lengthen my model 
900.  each one came with the brackets so I ended up with several of them, 
there should be pictures of the kit in your legacy manual that came with 
the machine.I'm sure you guys over there would have a lot easier job 
getting these parts now if

available than I would way over here in Australia
Bill
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Subject: RE: thin stock support



Did you buy them or did they come with you machine? I don't have any that
look like that and defiantly no extras that look like it.

Thanks
Greg

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Re: thin stock support

2011-06-30 Thread Bill Bulkeley

the 90 degree brackets I ordered from legacy they were used on a older model 
machine the 200 I believe it was. and the strait brackets are from the 
template rail mounting kit an extra legacy used to sell, I don't know if 
they would still have any I bought several of them once, it was the cheapest 
way of getting some extra rail at the time to lengthen my model 900.  each 
one came with the brackets so I ended up with several of them, there should 
be pictures of the kit in your legacy manual that came with the machine.I'm 
sure you guys over there would have a lot easier job getting these parts now 
if

available than I would way over here in Australia
Bill
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Subject: RE: thin stock support



Did you buy them or did they come with you machine? I don't have any that
look like that and defiantly no extras that look like it.

Thanks
Greg

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RE: thin stock support

2011-06-30 Thread Groovy Wood LLC

Did you buy them or did they come with you machine? I don't have any that
look like that and defiantly no extras that look like it.

Thanks
Greg

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Re: thin stock support

2011-06-30 Thread Bill Bulkeley

all the brackets are legacy's all I bought and added was the wheels and 2 
bolts

Bill
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Subject: Re: thin stock support



Very Nice Bill

Where did you get those brackets?
They look factory made. If you made those by hand, I take my hat off to 
you. (WoW! Nice job.)


When not in use as a stock support, you can also us them and the new 
Legacy mobility kit. (Need to move  your Legacy? No problem, not with the 
Big Bill's mobility kit!)  ;-)

Awesome job Bill.
thanks for sharing.

C.A.G.


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Subject: Re: thin stock support


I just made this I havent even tryed it out it looks as if it will hold 
work

7/8 inch to a bit over 3 inches
I will give it a try when i do another karate stick my new piece of 
purple

heart arrived today.
Bill


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Subject: thin stock support



some rail a few legacy bolts and brackets 2 scooter wheels from the
local toy shop and a simple thin stock support is born.
I found these wheels in out local toy shop and i knew i could put them
to some good woodwork use.
some pics to follow
Bill

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Re: thin stock support

2011-06-30 Thread curt george


Hay Bill
Good luck on the new staff. Remember to try to use the a small spring or a 
light bunji cord with the wave attachment.And I know you will be happy with 
the turn out.  Also I found that look best to use wave on the mid section of 
the staff and leaving the ends open form any cuts .
I believe you will find that the wave will not only make the staff look 
Great, but it also realy helps with the grip. My boys just love there 
staff's, And No one else on this side of the world has Bo's (Aaron has a Bo 
(6') staff, and Danny has a Jo (4') staff.) just like there's. ;-)

I cant wait to see how it turns out!
Have a great time making it, and Good luck.
C.A.G.



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Subject: Re: thin stock support


I just made this I havent even tryed it out it looks as if it will hold 
work

7/8 inch to a bit over 3 inches
I will give it a try when i do another karate stick my new piece of purple
heart arrived today.
Bill


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To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" 
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 4:36 PM
Subject: thin stock support



some rail a few legacy bolts and brackets 2 scooter wheels from the
local toy shop and a simple thin stock support is born.
I found these wheels in out local toy shop and i knew i could put them
to some good woodwork use.
some pics to follow
Bill

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Re: thin stock support

2011-06-30 Thread curt george


Very Nice Bill

Where did you get those brackets?
They look factory made. If you made those by hand, I take my hat off to you. 
(WoW! Nice job.)


When not in use as a stock support, you can also us them and the new Legacy 
mobility kit. (Need to move  your Legacy? No problem, not with the Big 
Bill's mobility kit!)  ;-)

Awesome job Bill.
thanks for sharing.

C.A.G.


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From: "Bill Bulkeley" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 2:40 AM
Subject: Re: thin stock support


I just made this I havent even tryed it out it looks as if it will hold 
work

7/8 inch to a bit over 3 inches
I will give it a try when i do another karate stick my new piece of purple
heart arrived today.
Bill


- Original Message - 
From: "aussiman" 

To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" 
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 4:36 PM
Subject: thin stock support



some rail a few legacy bolts and brackets 2 scooter wheels from the
local toy shop and a simple thin stock support is born.
I found these wheels in out local toy shop and i knew i could put them
to some good woodwork use.
some pics to follow
Bill

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