[LegacyUG] Adding a Husband as Unknown

2007-02-27 Thread David Cripps
I have one female already with 2 husbands, but I now discover that one of
the children whilst still having the same biological mother had an Unknown
father.

Yes I can unlink the son, but is there a way to ADD an Unknown Husband to
the wife (as a third spouse), so that I may then in turn add the unlinked
son back again?

I've had a look through the list archives, but can't seem to lob onto
exactly what I want, and the Help file in legacy doesn't exactly help
either.

Hope I've explained this in an understandable formatg.

Thanks
Dave Cripps in Tasmania


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Re: [LegacyUG] Events

2007-02-27 Thread Dennis Davenport
Janis, I think you and I are on the same page here.  Coming from TMG, it 
took me a little while to get used to Legacy's exclusion of Birth, 
Marriage, Death, and Burial from Events.  I thought, If those aren't 
events, I don't know what are!  And the complete separation of Marriage 
information from everything else was also a little hard to get used to.  
But when I discovered the Chronology tab, where all is listed, I was a 
happy camper again.  So now I look at the Event list as the 'everything 
but BMDB list.'  I do miss witnesses, roles and a few other features but 
adding those would just make Legacy another monster like TMG.  I, too, 
think it would be a good move to combine the Individual and Chronology 
screens into one.  Maybe it was done this way to keep the Individual 
screen from becoming too overwhelming and busy looking. 


Dennis

Janis Gilmore wrote:

What they renamed the feature? What if it weren't called Events? Don't 
let its name keep you from using it to its full potential.


If it weren't called an event you would think of it differently. 
Think of it as your chronology.


I find that I put things into the events that aren't even close to 
being events. For instance, the full data from WWI or WWII records, 
and data from the SSDI. I like seeing those details when I am looking 
at the chronology.


Honestly, I love the main individual screen in The Master Genealogist. 
But TMG doesn't offer the ease of report output, and is not nearly as 
intuitive in its interface as Legacy. My partner in genealogical crime 
is my father, who (although he has served as CEO of two very large 
high tech companies, and continues to keep his hand in) at 77 finds 
a stiffer learning curve in the software to be an impediment. I want 
to keep him as my primary partner as long as possible!


Legacy is a great answer for us - it is sophisticated enough to be a 
serious aid to research, it has nice reports, and it isn't as much a 
monster as TMG.


I wonder, however, if they won't work toward integrating the 
Chronology and Individual screens into one Would love to see that!


Janis
- Original Message - From: Ed McKie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 7:52 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Events



I have a problem with the Events in Legacy.
Being somewhat pedantic, I do not regard many of the items listed in 
the events section as being events but something else entirely.  
Mainly it is the occupations, which to my mind are not events as 
such, but something which occurred over a period of time.  So that 
when I see occupations listed under events it jars on my eye, and I 
have not been able to find a work around for this apart from putting 
all the occupations in the notes.
Anyone else have any ideas on this ?  I have used the events section 
as it is part of the programme, but to contemplate say a massive 
editing job when producing a Web page or a book I find quite daunting.


Cheers..Ed

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RE: [LegacyUG] Adding a Husband as Unknown

2007-02-27 Thread ronald ferguson

Dave,

Unlink the child from the current parents.
Create another marriage for the mother using Unknown for the name
Link the child to the new marriage (mother + unknown)

You can then either: (a) leave the name of the father as unknown or (b) in 
right click on him and delete.


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Subject: [LegacyUG] Adding a Husband as Unknown
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 21:10:47 +1100

I have one female already with 2 husbands, but I now discover that one of
the children whilst still having the same biological mother had an Unknown
father.

Yes I can unlink the son, but is there a way to ADD an Unknown Husband to
the wife (as a third spouse), so that I may then in turn add the unlinked
son back again?

I've had a look through the list archives, but can't seem to lob onto
exactly what I want, and the Help file in legacy doesn't exactly help
either.

Hope I've explained this in an understandable formatg.

Thanks
Dave Cripps in Tasmania


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Re: [LegacyUG] Events

2007-02-27 Thread Jenny M Benson
Ed McKie wrote
I have a problem with the Events in Legacy.
Being somewhat pedantic, I do not regard many of the items listed in
the events section as being events but something else entirely.
Mainly it is the occupations, which to my mind are not events as such,
but something which occurred over a period of time.  So that when I see
occupations listed under events it jars on my eye, and I have not been
able to find a work around for this apart from putting all the
occupations in the notes.
Anyone else have any ideas on this ?  I have used the events section as
it is part of the programme, but to contemplate say a massive editing
job when producing a Web page or a book I find quite daunting.

I know just what you mean because I suffer from the same sort of
pedantry myself!

ith, for example, Occupation I find there are two way of looking at it.
On the one hand there is the Event of being appointed to a certain job
and on the other hand there is the ongoing Fact of a person having a
particular occupation.

I have the same problem with Residence Events.  In some cases, I know
when a person actually purchased/moved into a property and I want to
record that, together with details of the property (eg, 2-bedroom semi-
detached house or 3-room apartment).  Im most cases, I only know that
at the time of a particular event (marriage, birth of a child, census,
etc) a person was resident at a particular address.

It does help a little if you think of Event(s) as being shorthand for
Event{s) and Fact(s).  I seem to remember that Legacy does use the
term Events/Facts somewhere.  Ideally, though, I feel, there would be
separate lists for Events and Facts. reports would read something like
Important Facts about John Doe are ... and then Notable Events in
John Doe's life were ...
-- 
Jenny M Benson



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RE: [LegacyUG] Probably as part of the locacation (WAS as part of the date)

2007-02-27 Thread Tom Montgomery
Appears the use of brackets is your problem - change to parentheses and
should be OK...

, , Canada (probably Vancouver, British Columbia)

Tom 

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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Probably as part of the locacation (WAS as part of
the date)

Hi Tom:

I was playing with your suggestion and created a location called:

Canada [probably Vancouver, British Columbia]

Unfortunately, it appears in the Master Location list as:

British Columbia] , Canada [probably Vancouver,

To get it to list properly, I have to remove the comma from between
Vancouver and British Columbia, then it lists as:

Canada [probably Vancouver British Columbia]

I hate not seeing a comma between Vancouver and British Columbia. What do
you do to get around this?

Thx! 

Ralf 



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Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 11:41:59 AM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Probably as part of the locacation (WAS as part of
the date) 


I have always looked at of and probably as having two very distinct
meanings. I use of to designate a place of residence when an event occurs
such as a marriage - you might not know where he/she was born but one knows
where he lived at the time of a later event. The word possibly, or
probably if you want to add some strength to the situation, is used when I
am making an educated guess as to where the event occurred. Depending on era
and circumstances you can make a decent guess as to birth/baptism from where
he/she lived at the time - not true with contemporary marriages. Some event
notes might be in order for clarification. 

Also on the probably situation, I use throughout the address. If I have
proof that an individual was born in Illinois but I believe he might well
have been born in Chicago then I enter as , , Illinois (probably Chicago,
Cook County). Same thing if I have proof it is , Cook County, Illinois, then
I might enter , Cook County (probably Chicago), Illinois. I would not use
probably Chicago, Cook County, Illinois if I have proof the event was in
Cook County, Illinois as it means (at least to me) you have no proof on any
part of the location. 

The word near can come into play hear as well - ties down the location a
bit more, such as 'Amite County (near Zion Hill), Mississippi'. 

TomM 

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Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Probably as part of the locacation (WAS as part of
the date) 

Ralf, 

According to couple of books I have on genealogy, the word OF is the 
genealogical equiv. of Probably. I use the following format: 

Of Orem, Utah Co., Utah, USA 
Of, Utah Co., Utah, USA 
Etc... 

Glen Ballard 

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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Probably as part of the locacation (WAS as part of

the date) 

From searching the archives, I am not totally clear. 

Is it preferred to leave a location blank or put in a probable location 
Probably Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada? 

Is there a standard for this? Is there a location (book, webpage, etc) where

standards such as this are listed? 

Thx! 

Ralf 

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Re: [LegacyUG] Export/Import

2007-02-27 Thread kb
I'm distributing about a dozen copies of our family genealogy and 
including a copy of Legacy for the convenience of those who don't have 
broadband.  For files transfer, I've used what I've done when computers 
died and laptops appeared at home.  Install Legacy, then simply either 
overwrite or delete the DATA folder and replace it with a copy of the 
one on my backup or distribution DVD.


Do I lose any data this way?  Currently, I haven't used multimedia 
files.  When I do, will I need to transfer other folders?


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Re: [LegacyUG] Newbie ? on consumption as cause of death.

2007-02-27 Thread Ed Barnard
Wayne,

As a general rule of thumb, let google be your friend! I typed in

genealogy medical terms

and came up with several pages containing exactly what you're seeking. 
Consumption is tuberculosis, but of course you'll find other terms equally 
mystifying. Google can help!

Generally speaking, when you're literally transcribing old documents, you 
should transcribe them precisely as-is. Particularly as a beginner (we've all 
been there!) you might mis-interpret something. Whereas, if you transcribe it 
literally, the information might mean something to another researcher - or it 
might mean more to you a year later. You can always add explanations. Died of 
consumption [tuberculosis].

If you don't have much experience with the handwriting of 100-300 years ago, 
you might search for help there as well. A lot of Census transcriptions done by 
beginners, misread the handwriting. As you can well imagine, reading a name 
correctly can make all the difference in the world to your research!

Best Regards,

  Ed Barnard in Minnesota

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From: Wayne Boian [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
Sent: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 13:54:10 -0500 
Subject: [LegacyUG] Newbie ? on consumption as cause of death.

 I am just getting started in genealogy, so please excuse my lack of knowledge 
 and understanding.
  
 I am doing research on the Boian family and found that one of my ancestors 
 died from consumption. That term as a cause of death, is meaningless to me. 
 Probably because I am just getting started, that is a given. But what about 
 future readers of the information collected and printed out.  
  
 My question for the group is really two parts. 
 What is consumption as a cause of death?
  
 and
  
 As a matter of procedure when entering notes or data into the various fields 
 in the program, should words like consumption (as used above) be defined 
 or translated into today's common  language usage or should we enter the 
 information as is in the original documents.
  
 There is always two sides to every coin, but was wondering what is the more 
 accepted practice (as is Vs re-define) when entering data or notes.
  
 Thanks for your time
 Wayne Boian
  
  
  
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Re: [LegacyUG] Newbie ? on consumption as cause of death.

2007-02-27 Thread Susan Daily

Wayne,
The nice thing about Legacy is it provides an area of cause of death
and then and area for Medical Notes. You can use these to your
advantage in a few ways.

If you run into a term you don't recognize, you can look it up here:
http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgwkidz/oldmedterm.htm
Consumption is defined as Tuberculosis.

Now you can list either as the cause of death, but I prefer to use the
old terminology since it gives the family history flavor. You can put
(Tuberculosis) in parenthesis to educate your modern readers who
haven't done genealogy. (As you guessed, nearly all experienced
genealogists have run across this word before!)

Legacy also allows for [[Private]] notes that can be viewable to you,
but not printed out in a report, if you select that as an option. So
you can choose to define some more obscure terminology that way for
your own use, or for printing in a report. Edema is one word that I've
explained in further detail this way.

I hope this helps.
Susan

On 2/27/07, Wayne Boian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

My question for the group is really two parts.
What is consumption as a cause of death?
and
As a matter of procedure when entering notes or data into the various fields
in the program, should words like consumption (as used above) be defined
or translated into today's common  language usage or should we enter the
information as is in the original documents.



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Re: [LegacyUG] Newbie ? on consumption as cause of death.

2007-02-27 Thread Claude Ortega
Dear Wayne Boian: 



 At 2007-02-27, 13:54:00 you wrote: 

I am just getting started in genealogy, so please excuse my lack of knowledge 
and understanding.

I am doing research on the Boian family and found that one of my ancestors died 
from consumption. That term as a cause of death, is meaningless to me. 
Probably because I am just getting started, that is a given. But what about 
future readers of the information collected and printed out.  

My question for the group is really two parts. 
What is consumption as a cause of death?

and

As a matter of procedure when entering notes or data into the various fields in 
the program, should words like consumption (as used above) be defined or 
translated into today's common  language usage or should we enter the 
information as is in the original documents.

There is always two sides to every coin, but was wondering what is the more 
accepted practice (as is Vs re-define) when entering data or notes.

Thanks for your time
Wayne Boian




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Hi Wayne,
Welcome to the wonderful world of genealogy research.  :-)
Consumption = pulmonary tuberculosis (TB)
You can find out more about it by doing a search using Google or one of the 
other search engines.
I would enter the stated diagnosis and an explaination/definition in the event 
record.
Best regards. 

Claude Ortega
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2007-02-27



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Re: [LegacyUG] Newbie ? on consumption as cause of death.

2007-02-27 Thread Elizabeth Cunningham
Consumption is the old name for tuberculosis.  I lot of my ancestors had 
it too.


  Elizabeth C

(And could you please remove the requirement for a receipt?  Thanks)

Wayne Boian wrote:

I am just getting started in genealogy, so please excuse my lack of 
knowledge and understanding.
 
I am doing research on the Boian family and found that one of my 
ancestors died from consumption. That term as a cause of death, is 
meaningless to me. Probably because I am just getting started, that is 
a given. But what about future readers of the information collected 
and printed out.  
 
My question for the group is really two parts.

What is consumption as a cause of death?
 
and
 
As a matter of procedure when entering notes or data into the various 
fields in the program, should words like consumption (as used above) 
be defined or translated into today's common  language usage or should 
we enter the information as is in the original documents.
 
There is always two sides to every coin, but was wondering what is the 
more accepted practice (as is Vs re-define) when entering data or notes.
 
Thanks for your time

Wayne Boian
 
 
 

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RE: [LegacyUG] Problem with adding new individuals

2007-02-27 Thread Sherry/Support
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Since upgrading to the latest version I have had a problem with the system
not permitting me to add additional individuals. It cannot recognize an
available RIN. A window will pop-up asking if I want to try again ... if I
say Yes it closes Legacy. If I say No then it opens the window for the
new person. I've put up with this anomaly ... but yesterday when I tried to
import a file it wouldn't let me and auto-closed Legacy. 
 
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RE: [LegacyUG] Export/Import

2007-02-27 Thread Mark Lang
Kb - 

 -Original Message-
 From: kb
 Sent: Wednesday, 28 February 2007 5:05 AM
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Export/Import
 
 Install Legacy, then simply either
 overwrite or delete the DATA folder and replace it with a copy of the
 one on my backup or distribution DVD.
 
 Do I lose any data this way?  Currently, I haven't used multimedia
 files.  When I do, will I need to transfer other folders?

Technically no you don't lose data/information as you are replacing the
Legacy file with a Legacy file. If you wish to use the Legacy\Data location
this is fine (but not what I would do). When you do use multimedia files,
there are other subfolders in the Legacy directory called Pictures, Sounds
and Videos.

Kind Regards,
Mark








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Re: [LegacyUG] Export/Import

2007-02-27 Thread ronald ferguson
It rather depends on how much of your setting setc you wish to include. The 
minimum would be the Legacy Set-up file and your family back up file ie the 
zip file usually in C:\Legacy\Data which would have to be copied into the 
Data Folder after installation and then brought into Legacy using 
FileRestore. There is no problem, however, in doing as you suggest and 
include the whole of the Data Folder and copy that to C:\Legacy, in which 
case, obviously, the back up file will already be there.


If you back-up your multimedia files these also will be in Legacy Data. 
However there is a potential problem in restoring as the path(s) will be 
that on your machine, so if they are stored in My Documents, for example, 
the path would normally include your name. You may like to consider, 
therefore, moving them to a folder in C:\ and reassociating them with your 
Legacy before creating the new back-up.


The help Files give a pretty good description of restoring files, btw.

Ron Ferguson


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From: kb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Export/Import
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 13:35:04 -0500

I'm distributing about a dozen copies of our family genealogy and including 
a copy of Legacy for the convenience of those who don't have broadband.  
For files transfer, I've used what I've done when computers died and 
laptops appeared at home.  Install Legacy, then simply either overwrite or 
delete the DATA folder and replace it with a copy of the one on my backup 
or distribution DVD.


Do I lose any data this way?  Currently, I haven't used multimedia files.  
When I do, will I need to transfer other folders?


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RE: [LegacyUG] Date glitch?

2007-02-27 Thread ronald ferguson
Rob with UK censuses they are officially taken for people who stayed 
overnight on the census date thus The census was the night of the 7 Aprl 
1861 (hence 7/8 Apr). The 7 Apr is the accepted date.


WRT to your question you have entered invalid dates you could, however enter 
between 7 Apr 1861 and 8 Apr 1861 without a problem.


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From: Rob Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Date glitch?
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 16:36:02 -0500

The 1861 Scotland census was taken on 7/8 April 1861. As I don't know which
of the two dates my information was taken I input 7/8 Apr 1861.

However, the sentence reads 0007 to 8 Apr 1861 (minus the quotations). 
The

same happens if I input 7-8 April 1861.

Is the 0007 a glitch within Legacy or with me? I finally input the date 
as

7 or 8 Apr 1861 which stays the same.

Thanks for your assistance.

Rob


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RE: [LegacyUG] Date glitch?

2007-02-27 Thread Rob Miller
Thank you!

Rob 

-Original Message-
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Sent: February 27, 2007 7:14 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Date glitch?


Hmm ...

How about bet 7 apr 1861 and 8 apr 1861, without quotes ...


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Miller
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 16:36
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Date glitch?

The 1861 Scotland census was taken on 7/8 April 1861. As I don't know which
of the two dates my information was taken I input 7/8 Apr 1861.

However, the sentence reads 0007 to 8 Apr 1861 (minus the quotations). The
same happens if I input 7-8 April 1861.

Is the 0007 a glitch within Legacy or with me? I finally input the date as
7 or 8 Apr 1861 which stays the same.

Thanks for your assistance.

Rob




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