Re: [LegacyUG] Descendant Naragtive Report Bug?
Carol, Thank You!!! I think you have just found the reason we have had reported problems with missing Location Indexes. We could never figure out why that was happening. As Cathy explained in her reply the RTF file does not support more than one Index. If you have selected both in the Index Options Legacy does not turn off the Location Index selection but it does only include a Name Index since the RTF cannot contain both. I just ran a test and confirmed that once you have chosen rtf as a report destination then no matter what you do later you cannot get the Location Index in either the Preview or a PDF file until you close Legacy then restart the program. Now I can describe the steps to duplicate the problem to the programmers in enough detail so they can find a solution. Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. Thanks. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I've found a problem with this report when I do the following: After setting the preferences for both name and location indexes. 1.select preview. Both index appear. 2. Cancel preview and select either RTF or PDF and create the report. 3. The location index is not there This had the same problem for every file I used to test it. I'm using version 6.0.0155. Carol Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Re: [new LUG footer format]
Mark, The way the new footers are formatted now I can use plain text but my email program recognizes and activate the hyperlinks so they are clickable. I hope Jim keeps the links exactly the way they are now for us plain text fanatics. As you said, your hyperlink method appeared only as text in my footers so I would never know there was a clickable link. Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. Thanks. Mark Wilson wrote: Jim, you are using a much better message footer now! However, you can reduce the clutter even more. Since you are using HTML hyperlinks, you can simplify like this, for example: Legacy 6.0 Deluxe Features Legacy User Group (LUG) Guidelines (Please Read!) Archived Messages Online Technical Support To Unsubscribe You probably already knew all this, but I thought I would make the suggestion. Of course, the hyperlinks will be lost when converted to a true text message. My best, Mark Wilson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] filing systems was: A question for Geoff
This has been discussed quite a bit in the past. Check out the archives. You may also find the following links helpful: http://www.fileyourpapers.com/index.html http://genealogy.about.com/cs/organization/a/filing_systems.htm http://www.cyndislist.com/organize.htm Personally, I use to file by MRIN. After some computer problems, I ended up with new MRINs. Not good. Now I'm beginning to assign a number to a document and post descriptive info into an Excel file so I can easily search to find a doc by location, year, type, given name, surname, etc. I am also starting to move from general notes (i.e.: DOS PAF) to source, events, notes. The source includes a file ID where I can put my assigned document number. Dawn Ralf X wrote: Thanks for the information and your reply Thomas! How are you enjoying the MRIN filing system? Positives? Negatives? If anyone else has any strong feelings about it I would really love to hear from you. Feel free to e-mail me privately ([EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]). I need to start a filing system, but want to make sure it is the one for me before I purchase all the items. Thank you, Ralf Thomas Herson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know what you're talking about. I have some wide tabbed notebook dividers that extend beyond the width of sheet protectors. I wanted to buy more for the Legacy notebook organization, but I couldn't find them at either Staples or Office Max. However, I did find packages of sheet protectors with tabs which work perfectly as dividers and you can insert more information about what follows the divieder in the tabbes sheet protector. The information on the product is: Beautone Standard Weight Sheet Protectors with Tabs They are acid free The tabs are colored Numbers on the UPC label are 46330 and 7 52688 46330 0 They are sold in 10 Packs and I believe the price per package was $2.99. I hope this helps Tom On 8/30/07, Ralf X wrote: Tish: I keep all my documents in archival sheet protectors, which are a bit wider than normal tabbed dividers. Are the tabbed dividers you received a special size to take in to account that most people store their documents in archival sheet protectors which are a bit wider than normal tabbed dividers? Or are they normal width? I'm wondering whether the numbers and words on the tabbed dividers will get covered up by the sheet protectors, or if they are still easily read. Thanks, Ralf Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=40705/*http://mrd.mail.yahoo.com/try_beta?.intl=ca Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Boxes
Hi Cathy, me again. Re; BOXES. I tried the Ancest0r Chart, went to the 'include' tab but most of it was 'greyed' out. Would like to get a bit of data in the boxes, not too much, just 'joggers' really. Kind regards. Barbara. Suffolk, England. - Original Message - From: Cathy To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 2:12 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Boxes Hi Barbara, Welcome to Legacy and this list. It seems that you've immediately hit a known bug :-( Several possible solutions at the moment. One: use Portrait orientation for your page. This has less problems than the Landscape. Two: include less generations per page. The chart will/can tell you how the following pages relate to the first. Three: use the Ancestor chart. Better charting is coming in version 7. Cathy At 11:35 PM 30/08/2007, you wrote: Hello. I'm new to this programme so hope someone can help. I've printed off one page of a Pedigree Chart to test it, but on several of the generations, the boxes overlap. Is there some way I can adjust the sizes of the boxes to allow the data I want in them? I've downloaded Legacy v6 Deluxe. Having sat in front of it for most of the day 'playing', I can't seem to find an option for this. Kind regards. Barbara. Suffolk, England. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.10/976 - Release Date: 27/08/2007 18:20 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Descendant Naragtive Report Bug?
Brian, I don't think they will find a solution as long as the love affair with WORD continues. Perhaps looking at Open Office will produce the desired outcome. Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: Brian/Support [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Descendant Naragtive Report Bug? Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2007 02:31:07 -0400 Carol, Thank You!!! I think you have just found the reason we have had reported problems with missing Location Indexes. We could never figure out why that was happening. As Cathy explained in her reply the RTF file does not support more than one Index. If you have selected both in the Index Options Legacy does not turn off the Location Index selection but it does only include a Name Index since the RTF cannot contain both. I just ran a test and confirmed that once you have chosen rtf as a report destination then no matter what you do later you cannot get the Location Index in either the Preview or a PDF file until you close Legacy then restart the program. Now I can describe the steps to duplicate the problem to the programmers in enough detail so they can find a solution. Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com _ Got a favourite clothes shop, bar or restaurant? Share your local knowledge http://www.backofmyhand.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Boxes
Hi Barbara, Then use the Pedigree Chart with 5 generations per page. The 5th generation doesn't have full information but these people are repeated on the continuation pages with full BDM info. Cathy At 04:18 PM 1/09/2007, you wrote: Hi Cathy, me again. Re; BOXES. I tried the Ancest0r Chart, went to the 'include' tab but most of it was 'greyed' out. Would like to get a bit of data in the boxes, not too much, just 'joggers' really. Kind regards. Barbara. Suffolk, England. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] A suggestion
Paul A. wrote If people don’t see it the way it is, they won’t see it when it is in all caps. The fact is that they just don’t look at the footers. By the way, your messages are in HTML and LUG rules require all emails to be in plain text. (Even though I prefer HTML. LOL The owner of another mailing list to which I subscribe sends out a regular e-mail every few weeks which just states the rules for the list, including how to post and how to unsubscribe. I think people might notice this more than all the blurb at the bottom of messages . -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Boxes
Thanks Cathy, I'll give it a try. So much to learn with Legacy, totally mind-blowing Barbara. - Original Message - From: Cathy To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 9:34 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Boxes Hi Barbara, Then use the Pedigree Chart with 5 generations per page. The 5th generation doesn't have full information but these people are repeated on the continuation pages with full BDM info. Cathy At 04:18 PM 1/09/2007, you wrote: Hi Cathy, me again. Re; BOXES. I tried the Ancest0r Chart, went to the 'include' tab but most of it was 'greyed' out. Would like to get a bit of data in the boxes, not too much, just 'joggers' really. Kind regards. Barbara. Suffolk, England. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.13.0/980 - Release Date: 30/08/2007 18:05 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Marriage unknown
I have a great uncle in my file who never married. I have the box checked that he was never married and never had children, but Unknown is shown as his wife. And there is a marriage symbol by his name on the family group page. When I try to unlink Unknown, Spouse is grayed out. How do I remove this (non)marriage? I've tried to delete Unknown but am unable to figure out how to do this. Thanks. Linda B. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Marriage unknown
Linda, Try going to the Marriage List. Find the man, highlight him and Select: Options - remove the marriage link. Jennifer -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Linda Bischoff Sent: Sunday, 2 September 2007 12:33 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Marriage unknown I have a great uncle in my file who never married. I have the box checked that he was never married and never had children, but Unknown is shown as his wife. And there is a marriage symbol by his name on the family group page. When I try to unlink Unknown, Spouse is grayed out. How do I remove this (non)marriage? I've tried to delete Unknown but am unable to figure out how to do this. Thanks. Linda B. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage unknown
Can't you simply delete this particular Unknown? On 9/1/07, Linda Bischoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a great uncle in my file who never married. I have the box checked that he was never married and never had children, but Unknown is shown as his wife. And there is a marriage symbol by his name on the family group page. When I try to unlink Unknown, Spouse is grayed out. How do I remove this (non)marriage? I've tried to delete Unknown but am unable to figure out how to do this. Thanks. Linda B. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy on Mac
Thanks, Paul and all, I want to keep using Legacy but am getting some pressure to switch to Mac since I teach at an all Mac school and we use iWeb for course web pages which is not avail for the PC platform. Glad to know it is a viable option for Legacy users. denise _ From: Paul Evans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 11:40 PM To: Denise Levenick Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy on Mac Denise I have Legacy running under both Bootcamp and Parallels. It has set up fine. It is probably slightly slower - especially on older machines on Parallels but has been usable as my macs are now much more powerful than any windows machines I have had I also use TNG as this is web based and can be used natively on any machine. Not as good at reports as Legacy but fine for most of my purposes Regards Paul Evans On 31 Aug 2007, at 15:33, Denise Levenick wrote: Has anyone used Legacy on a Mac using the Windows OS? I know that the newer Macs will run both Mac and Windows systems but wonder if there are any glitches. Denise Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] filing systems was: A question for Geoff
Dawn, Would you be kind enough to elaborate on how you set up your Excel files? I use the MRIN system, and I would very much like to see how your Excel files work. Thanks, Jim On 9/1/07, Dawn Crowley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This has been discussed quite a bit in the past. Check out the archives. You may also find the following links helpful: http://www.fileyourpapers.com/index.html http://genealogy.about.com/cs/organization/a/filing_systems.htm http://www.cyndislist.com/organize.htm Personally, I use to file by MRIN. After some computer problems, I ended up with new MRINs. Not good. Now I'm beginning to assign a number to a document and post descriptive info into an Excel file so I can easily search to find a doc by location, year, type, given name, surname, etc. I am also starting to move from general notes (i.e.: DOS PAF) to source, events, notes. The source includes a file ID where I can put my assigned document number. Dawn Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] BMP vs TIFF?
Thanks for the eplanation Junk Man! I'll definitely avoid BMP's and keep scanning to TIF. Ralf (Funny, Wm called BMP's junk and the Junk Man answered!) --- Junk Man [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some applications provide compression for BMP files, making them smaller ... but that also decreases their compatibility with other applications. They are great for MS Office applications. TIFF has much wider support in almost all applications. Image Size/color depth Comparison *PNG* 7.05 KB 27 colors *GIF* 4.78 KB 9 colors *BMP* 299.12 KB 27 colors *TIFF*10.5 KB 27 colors Format Purposes: *PNG* if you want to share the graph on the Web or to use in your documents (recommended) *GIF* if you want the smallest resulting file *BMP* if you want to use the file in older Windows programs *TIFF* if you want to print or to use the file on Mac/Unix From Dances with Crows: TIFF stores a bunch of information that might be useful (resolution in DPI, software used, compression method used, bits/sample, etcetera) in TIFF tags. Lots of image-editing software knows about these tags and can take appropriate action. TIFFs can use a variety of compression methods (G4 for black-and-white data, PackBits/LZW/RLE/JPEG for color or grayscale data) as well. You can store multiple images in one TIFF file, too. BMP doesn't store additional info and can only use RLE compression AFAIK. RLE is not very good at compression; G4 is best if your data is black-and-white, LZW is best if your data is gray/color and you need losslessness, and JPEG is best if you don't mind lossy compression. (Note that JPEG-compressed TIFFs can cause older software to puke. Use straight JPEGs if you go for lossy compression; they're more portable.) BMP is very well-understood but it's not an open standard in the way TIFF is. HTH, On 8/31/07, Wm Voss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, they are; the BMP format is junk and should be avoided at all expense. Wm Voss Ralf X wrote: Following the various discussion groups I have been scanning in TIF format. But at the library today two fellows were discussing the pluses of using BMP over TIF for their documents. 1. Invented by Microsoft, so good odds are Windows will be able to read it down the road (when other formats aren't). 2. Smaller file size (half as small as a TIF). 3. Quality almost as good. Does anyone scan to BMP? Are the two guys right or wrong? Feel free to e-mail me privately, if this question is too off-topic. Thank you, Ralf *All new Yahoo! Mail * http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=40705/*http://mrd.mail.yahoo.com/try_beta?.intl=ca Get news delivered. Enjoy RSS feeds right on your Mail page. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Get news delivered with the All new Yahoo! Mail. Enjoy RSS feeds right on your Mail page. Start today at http://mrd.mail.yahoo.com/try_beta?.intl=ca Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Descendant Narrative Report Bug?
Hi Brian, I'm glade that I was able to help. Love Legacy and want insure its continued success. Carol -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian/Support Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 11:31 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Descendant Naragtive Report Bug? Carol, Thank You!!! I think you have just found the reason we have had reported problems with missing Location Indexes. We could never figure out why that was happening. As Cathy explained in her reply the RTF file does not support more than one Index. If you have selected both in the Index Options Legacy does not turn off the Location Index selection but it does only include a Name Index since the RTF cannot contain both. I just ran a test and confirmed that once you have chosen rtf as a report destination then no matter what you do later you cannot get the Location Index in either the Preview or a PDF file until you close Legacy then restart the program. Now I can describe the steps to duplicate the problem to the programmers in enough detail so they can find a solution. Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. Thanks. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I've found a problem with this report when I do the following: After setting the preferences for both name and location indexes. 1.select preview. Both index appear. 2. Cancel preview and select either RTF or PDF and create the report. 3. The location index is not there This had the same problem for every file I used to test it. I'm using version 6.0.0155. Carol Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Query by example
IMHO, lincol is sometimes an abbreviation for line column. how did it show up? Rich in LA CA --- Phil Hawkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anyone explain what the word? lincol* means and is used for in the location boxes in the Search tab Query by Example? When I first used the tab it was already there in three places. I thought it was a placeholder and clicking on it would bring up the master location list or something similar, but it had no effect. Therefore, Unknowingly, whenever I tried to search Legacy was looking for lincol* as part of the search and there was never a match. When I cleared the page I could search and get results Curious -- Phil Hawkins (Rather be Fishing) Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Marriage unknown
If all else fails, create a fake person, named fake person, as a spouse. Save file. reopen and unattach, delete fake person. Rich in LA CA We used to call it confusing the computer in the old days. --- Linda Bischoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a great uncle in my file who never married. I have the box checked that he was never married and never had children, but Unknown is shown as his wife. And there is a marriage symbol by his name on the family group page. When I try to unlink Unknown, Spouse is grayed out. How do I remove this (non)marriage? I've tried to delete Unknown but am unable to figure out how to do this. Thanks. Linda B. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] More Problems
Besides the Error 76 problem I have encountered another. I opened Legacy to my main family file. I then closed it and opened the Sample File to see how the labels could be changed in family view. I played around with the labels and when I was finished, changed them back to the original display I had when I opened it and everything was back to normal. I then closed the Sample file and opened my main family file and all the labels were changed exactly as the Sample file before I changed them back to the original settings. Why did the labels change on my main family file when it was supposed to be closed? The main reason I used the Sample file was to make sure I didn't goof up my main family file. In the sample file I removed the Baptism label and used other labels, but I didn't like the way things were displayed so I changed them back and everything was back to normal in the Sample file. I then changed my main family file labels back to the way they were originally. The problem now is, I lost all the entries in the baptism label in the family view. The baptism entries have now been moved to the event/fact portion. I would really like to move them back to the family view, but I don't know if this can be done without re-copying them one by one. I then went back to the Samle file to see if I lost the entries in the baptism label in the family view, I didn't. I don't know why this happened, but I'm having a few problems with Legacy and Vista that I never had with Windows XP. I monitor this list to keep up on what is going on with Legacy and I never had any of the problems people were having until now and my problems started when my other computer had too many problems to try to fix and I had to use Vista. If anyone has any suggestions, I would be most greatful. Bill Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] filing systems was: A question for Geoff
I set this up with the following in mind: 1) I want to find the record again!!! 2) I want my current immediate family members to find the record (my minor children also work on genealogy with me) 3) I want my children to be able to identify a needed record when they are no longer living at home. I'll email them an updated list from time to time. 4) I sometimes teach genealogy classes. This chart can help me identify records for a particular time period, type, or locality to prepare a class. 5) I have been known to assist my children in sneaking actual genealogy records into their history assignments. They can move around Excel readily. 6) Eventually, my records may be shared with others. Therefore, for me, this chart is not a replacement for sourcing records. It is a filing locating again method. I came up with it when I realized that naming digital files was waaayyy too cumbersome when I included everything that I wanted. Then I realized that it would work equally well for my paper files. Paper records go into binders in numerical order due to previous mishaps when moving. (My file folders were dumped into larger boxes by movers!) The rows at the top of the Excel spreadsheet currently include the following: #this is assigned in the order that I touch the record (similar to RIN assignments by the computer) P/D paper or digital; I currently have some of each; another goal is to have both paper an digital eventually class topic this is the title for which I've used this record previously rec type vital records, Bible, cenus, etc. country state county city Surname Maiden name even if the maiden name is not on this record, I include known maiden names here so I can search on that field Given name year year of record 1700's 1800's 1900's these columns are to identify possible records for a class since some record years might give clues to a different period (i.e.: 1900 census shows 1880-1900 birth info for those still living); I put an X in the appropriate column The flexibility of Excel makes this easy to filter or sort however I like, rearrange the columns, etc. On records such as census, I will enter the head of household, then copy paste that line to change the name info. The Excel file is also easy to send to my adult child when she is preparing a genealogy class. Like getting started with inputting genealogy, this takes time. Yes, it overlaps features in Legacy, but it works for me. Dawn Jim Keener wrote: Dawn, Would you be kind enough to elaborate on how you set up your Excel files? I use the MRIN system, and I would very much like to see how your Excel files work. Thanks, Jim On 9/1/07, Dawn Crowley [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This has been discussed quite a bit in the past. Check out the archives. You may also find the following links helpful: http://www.fileyourpapers.com/index.html http://genealogy.about.com/cs/organization/a/filing_systems.htm http://genealogy.about.com/cs/organization/a/filing_systems.htm http://www.cyndislist.com/organize.htm Personally, I use to file by MRIN. After some computer problems, I ended up with new MRINs. Not good. Now I'm beginning to assign a number to a document and post descriptive info into an Excel file so I can easily search to find a doc by location, year, type, given name, surname, etc. I am also starting to move from general notes (i.e.: DOS PAF) to source, events, notes. The source includes a file ID where I can put my assigned document number. Dawn -snip-- Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] filing systems was: A question for Geoff
This word wrapped in odd places. Just to clarify: 1) yearyear of record and 2) 1700's 1800's 1900's these columns are to identify possible records for a class since some record years might give clues to a different period (i.e.: 1900 census shows 1880-1900 birth info for those still living); I put an X in the appropriate column Also, I omitted other surnames. In that column, I place witnessess and neighbors with no known relationship at the time. They may later be proved as relatives. Dawn Dawn Crowley wrote: --snip--- year year of record 1700's 1800's 1900's these columns are to identify possible records for a class since some record years might give clues to a different period (i.e.: 1900 census shows 1880-1900 birth info for those still living); I put an X in the appropriate column snip--- Jim Keener wrote: Dawn, Would you be kind enough to elaborate on how you set up your Excel files? I use the MRIN system, and I would very much like to see how your Excel files work. Thanks, Jim On 9/1/07, Dawn Crowley [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This has been discussed quite a bit in the past. Check out the archives. You may also find the following links helpful: http://www.fileyourpapers.com/index.html http://genealogy.about.com/cs/organization/a/filing_systems.htm http://genealogy.about.com/cs/organization/a/filing_systems.htm http://www.cyndislist.com/organize.htm Personally, I use to file by MRIN. After some computer problems, I ended up with new MRINs. Not good. Now I'm beginning to assign a number to a document and post descriptive info into an Excel file so I can easily search to find a doc by location, year, type, given name, surname, etc. I am also starting to move from general notes (i.e.: DOS PAF) to source, events, notes. The source includes a file ID where I can put my assigned document number. Dawn -snip-- Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] filing systems was: A question for Geoff
Dawn, Thank you very much for taking the time to get this information for us. I know other folks will appreciate it as well. I've already started my Excel file. Jim On 9/1/07, Dawn Crowley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I set this up with the following in mind: 1) I want to find the record again!!! 2) I want my current immediate family members to find the record (my minor children also work on genealogy with me) 3) I want my children to be able to identify a needed record when they are no longer living at home. I'll email them an updated list from time to time. 4) I sometimes teach genealogy classes. This chart can help me identify records for a particular time period, type, or locality to prepare a class. 5) I have been known to assist my children in sneaking actual genealogy records into their history assignments. They can move around Excel readily. 6) Eventually, my records may be shared with others. Therefore, for me, this chart is not a replacement for sourcing records. It is a filing locating again method. I came up with it when I realized that naming digital files was waaayyy too cumbersome when I included everything that I wanted. Then I realized that it would work equally well for my paper files. Paper records go into binders in numerical order due to previous mishaps when moving. (My file folders were dumped into larger boxes by movers!) The rows at the top of the Excel spreadsheet currently include the following: #this is assigned in the order that I touch the record (similar to RIN assignments by the computer) P/D paper or digital; I currently have some of each; another goal is to have both paper an digital eventually class topic this is the title for which I've used this record previously rec type vital records, Bible, cenus, etc. country state county city Surname Maiden name even if the maiden name is not on this record, I include known maiden names here so I can search on that field Given name year year of record 1700's 1800's 1900's these columns are to identify possible records for a class since some record years might give clues to a different period (i.e.: 1900 census shows 1880-1900 birth info for those still living); I put an X in the appropriate column The flexibility of Excel makes this easy to filter or sort however I like, rearrange the columns, etc. On records such as census, I will enter the head of household, then copy paste that line to change the name info. The Excel file is also easy to send to my adult child when she is preparing a genealogy class. Like getting started with inputting genealogy, this takes time. Yes, it overlaps features in Legacy, but it works for me. Dawn Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Lost Icons
Help! In the Individual's Information window - First line Given (name) Second line Surname space where there should be icons for sources, pictures, notes, etc. I do not have those icons on this view. I'm sure I must have removed them [by accident - not knowing what I was doing]. I do not know how ??? And I want them backplease tell me how to get them back! Jean Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] For Geoff
Tish, Have you viewed the Legacy lesson at www.FileYourPapers.com? Thanks, Geoff Rasmussen Millennia Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LegacyFamilyTree.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tish Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 2:45 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] For Geoff Hi, now that you are probably in our Beautiful BC waters heading North, I don't know if you get e-mail. I have a huge request. Could - would you please make a CD of the MRIN filing system, begining with the printing of the Descendants Charts, right through putting data into the filing system? It would be a treasure, and one that we could study to our heart's content. What a help it would be, and I do thank you in advance. Looking forward to reading how to order. Tish Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Query by example
RICHARD SCHULTHIES wrote: IMHO, lincol is sometimes an abbreviation for line column. how did it show up? Rich in LA CA --- Phil Hawkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip That's what I thought it was. I had never used this search method previously since I was not up to speed with it. My daughter uses the program but she does not know how to search and find and how to use wildcards in a search.(and only wants to find ancestors to add to the file, not fill in the details-that's my job!!) lincol* was in three places (born/died/buried) when I first went to try the search method and I assumed it meant line column and couldn't understand it's purpose. I do have ancestors in lincolnshire but cannot recall searching anywhere/anytime in the program in that way. Maybe I'd had a couple of refreshments and forgot !!grin Stil, it's not there now so whatever reason it was there originally I can now do Query by Example and get results Thanks for the assistance -- Phil Hawkins (Rather be Fishing) Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] BMP vs TIFF?
Just an additional thought - personally, I'd be inclined to NOT use a file type that was invented by Microsoft. When Microsoft does that sort of thing, they tend to make their filetypes compatible with their other software systems, but nobody else's. If you go with a more open file format you wont run into those problems. Dave Ralf X wrote: Following the various discussion groups I have been scanning in TIF format. But at the library today two fellows were discussing the pluses of using BMP over TIF for their documents. 1. Invented by Microsoft, so good odds are Windows will be able to read it down the road (when other formats aren't). 2. Smaller file size (half as small as a TIF). 3. Quality almost as good. Does anyone scan to BMP? Are the two guys right or wrong? Feel free to e-mail me privately, if this question is too off-topic. Thank you, Ralf *All new Yahoo! Mail * http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=40705/*http://mrd.mail.yahoo.com/try_beta?.intl=ca Get news delivered. Enjoy RSS feeds right on your Mail page. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] BMP vs TIFF?
Thanks Dave! A a valid point. Ralf --- Dave Hook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just an additional thought - personally, I'd be inclined to NOT use a file type that was invented by Microsoft. When Microsoft does that sort of thing, they tend to make their filetypes compatible with their other software systems, but nobody else's. If you go with a more open file format you wont run into those problems. Dave Ralf X wrote: Following the various discussion groups I have been scanning in TIF format. But at the library today two fellows were discussing the pluses of using BMP over TIF for their documents. 1. Invented by Microsoft, so good odds are Windows will be able to read it down the road (when other formats aren't). 2. Smaller file size (half as small as a TIF). 3. Quality almost as good. Does anyone scan to BMP? Are the two guys right or wrong? Feel free to e-mail me privately, if this question is too off-topic. Thank you, Ralf *All new Yahoo! Mail * http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=40705/*http://mrd.mail.yahoo.com/try_beta?.intl=ca Get news delivered. Enjoy RSS feeds right on your Mail page. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Yahoo! Answers and share what you know at http://ca.answers.yahoo.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage unknown
This advice helped me clean up about a dozen Unknown to Unknown marriages with no siblings. Thanks all! Cheers, Mitch On 9/2/07, Linda Bischoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Jennifer, Richard and Randolph for your replies. Jennifer's solution worked, and now my great uncle is shown as should be. When I deleted the marriage, the box with never married lost its checkmark, so I had to re-check that box in order that the exclamation mark would show up on the family group page. Again, thanks! This group is so helpful! Linda B. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jennifer Crockett Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 10:47 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Marriage unknown Linda, Try going to the Marriage List. Find the man, highlight him and Select: Options - remove the marriage link. Jennifer -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Linda Bischoff Sent: Sunday, 2 September 2007 12:33 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Marriage unknown I have a great uncle in my file who never married. I have the box checked that he was never married and never had children, but Unknown is shown as his wife. And there is a marriage symbol by his name on the family group page. When I try to unlink Unknown, Spouse is grayed out. How do I remove this (non)marriage? I've tried to delete Unknown but am unable to figure out how to do this. Thanks. Linda B. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] BMP vs TIFF?
There was a discussion in another list about what format to use for file though that was for archiving so some considerations which might or might be valid here. Some are keen to keep the RAW file, with no compression or manipulation so it can be processed or enhanced in the future. Then after that a TIFF file can be produced for storage. There are some links here to some further information. http://www.archive-skills.com/links/links4.php http://www.tasi.ac.uk/advice/creating/creating.html http://www.tasi.ac.uk/advice/creating/format.html Martin Briscoe Fort William MLFHS | Gwynedd FHS Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Elizabeth Shown Mills - Splitter or Lumper?
Am I correct in assuming that since Elizabeth Shown Mills includes the date a web page was accessed in the PUBLICATION FACTS, she leans towards splitting? (meaning you can't reuse the Master Source later on) EXAMPLE:(http://www.bobswebpage.com/cemetery : accessed 01 September 2007), entry for John Doe, section 1, plot 2, grave 3 But if she had included the accessed date in the SOURCE DETAIL instead, this would have been lumping? (meaning you can reuse the Master Source later on). EXAMPLE:(http://www.bobswebpage.com/cemeterydatabase), accessed 01 September 2007, entry for John Doe, section 1, plot 2, grave 3 I hope I'm making sense. Being relatively new to sourcing (okay bad me) I'm finding sourcing in this POST Evidence Explained and PRE Legacy 7.0 world a tad complicated. Thanks, Ralf Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail at http://mrd.mail.yahoo.com/try_beta?.intl=ca Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Lost Icons
Jean, I have tried everything I can think of and I cannot get rid of them (I figured if I could remove them I could get back). I don't think this is normal (to not have them). Sorry, Mitch On 9/2/07, Jean Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Help! In the Individual's Information window - First line Given (name) Second line Surname space where there should be icons for sources, pictures, notes, etc. I do not have those icons on this view. I'm sure I must have removed them [by accident - not knowing what I was doing]. I do not know how ??? And I want them backplease tell me how to get them back! Jean Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Lost Icons
Jean: I believe if you right-click your mouse where the icons were you will see a window called Customize Family View Icons. Simply drag up the icons (left-click, hold and drag) from the bottom half of the box to the top half (in the order you want them). Cheers! Rob - On 9/2/07, Jean Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Help! In the Individual's Information window - First line Given (name) Second line Surname space where there should be icons for sources, pictures, notes, etc. I do not have those icons on this view. I'm sure I must have removed them [by accident - not knowing what I was doing]. I do not know how ??? And I want them backplease tell me how to get them back! Jean Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Elizabeth Shown Mills - Splitter or Lumper?
I think the lumping can be defined several different ways. I am a LUMPER. I use Census-1930 as a master source, not identifying the county, state, detail info. This is because I have a census event attached to the PERSON that contains ALL of the information she is putting in the source. I do it my way because I personally do NOT want to have to keep flipping back to the sources to see what the Census data looked like, then back to the person - and this is applicable while I am using Legacy on the computer as well as reports I may print out. It's probably not the right way to do it, but it is a LOT easier. Seems to me that SPLITTERS have to be flippers, too. ;-) - Original Message - From: Ralf X [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 9:32 PM Subject: [LegacyUG] Elizabeth Shown Mills - Splitter or Lumper? Am I correct in assuming that since Elizabeth Shown Mills includes the date a web page was accessed in the PUBLICATION FACTS, she leans towards splitting? (meaning you can't reuse the Master Source later on) EXAMPLE:(http://www.bobswebpage.com/cemetery : accessed 01 September 2007), entry for John Doe, section 1, plot 2, grave 3 But if she had included the accessed date in the SOURCE DETAIL instead, this would have been lumping? (meaning you can reuse the Master Source later on). EXAMPLE:(http://www.bobswebpage.com/cemeterydatabase), accessed 01 September 2007, entry for John Doe, section 1, plot 2, grave 3 I hope I'm making sense. Being relatively new to sourcing (okay bad me) I'm finding sourcing in this POST Evidence Explained and PRE Legacy 7.0 world a tad complicated. Thanks, Ralf Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail at http://mrd.mail.yahoo.com/try_beta?.intl=ca Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Mills book on sourcing
Hi Listers I've also been watching the sourcing threads with interest. I'm not for or against any particular style. However, having never seen the Mills book, I was curious if the material/examples used are generic/universal (ie can be used across countries) or predominently North American. Living in Australia, with most of my ancestors in England and Europe, I don't have much need for the American sources. To justify spending AUD$80-90 on her book, I'd need to have more than minimal usage of sources from the book. Cheers Tracy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Chart printing
Can anyone tell me how to print a chart with all individuals in my family tree data base displayed. I believe there are other programs that are capable of doing this, like Genbox. But I wish to know if Legacy is capable of this function. I am running the deluxe version. Bill No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.13.2/983 - Release Date: 1/09/2007 16:20 PM Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Mills book on sourcing
Tracy, The bulk of the book is related to the USA when it gets into details but Ms Mills does have a *lot* of general information that is not country specific; rather it is sourcing philosophy. I also got the quick reference chart when I bought the book and on there (if I can remember correctly), probably only 5% is UK related and that is 100% source and citation examples. I am in Japan until late Wednesday night; my book is at home in Colorado. I'd be happy to answer more specific questions after that. I am not sure the book would be worth your while. The quick reference chart may be what you are looking for at a much better price. All I really wanted was the examples of how she suggests doing a census, birth record, online source, etc. and it is a lot book to go thru (and a hefty price IMO). Certainly I think the new Mills books is far superior to the first one Evidence!, but it is expensive. Cheers, Mitch On 9/2/07, Tracy Skegg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Listers I've also been watching the sourcing threads with interest. I'm not for or against any particular style. However, having never seen the Mills book, I was curious if the material/examples used are generic/universal (ie can be used across countries) or predominently North American. Living in Australia, with most of my ancestors in England and Europe, I don't have much need for the American sources. To justify spending AUD$80-90 on her book, I'd need to have more than minimal usage of sources from the book. Cheers Tracy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] For Geoff
Yes, Geoff, I have read and re-read these pages a number of times, but the ones that show us where to mark, move way too fast, and they do not allow us to pause and see in our own files how to do this. The CDs are wonderful for that. Tish Tish, Have you viewed the Legacy lesson at www.FileYourPapers.com? Thanks, Geoff Rasmussen Millennia Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LegacyFamilyTree.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tish Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 2:45 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] For Geoff Hi, now that you are probably in our Beautiful BC waters heading North, I don't know if you get e-mail. I have a huge request. Could - would you please make a CD of the MRIN filing system, begining with the printing of the Descendants Charts, right through putting data into the filing system? It would be a treasure, and one that we could study to our heart's content. What a help it would be, and I do thank you in advance. Looking forward to reading how to order. Tish Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.13.1/982 - Release Date: 8/31/2007 5:21 PM Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Mills book on sourcing
*Certainly I think the new Mills books is far superior to the first one Evidence!, but it is expensive.* Mitch: Is Evidence Explained a newer version of Evidence! (is everything in Evidence! in Evidence Explained), or do you need both for a complete reference library? --- Mitch Mackrory [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tracy, The bulk of the book is related to the USA when it gets into details but Ms Mills does have a *lot* of general information that is not country specific; rather it is sourcing philosophy. I also got the quick reference chart when I bought the book and on there (if I can remember correctly), probably only 5% is UK related and that is 100% source and citation examples. I am in Japan until late Wednesday night; my book is at home in Colorado. I'd be happy to answer more specific questions after that. I am not sure the book would be worth your while. The quick reference chart may be what you are looking for at a much better price. All I really wanted was the examples of how she suggests doing a census, birth record, online source, etc. and it is a lot book to go thru (and a hefty price IMO). Certainly I think the new Mills books is far superior to the first one Evidence!, but it is expensive. Cheers, Mitch On 9/2/07, Tracy Skegg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Listers I've also been watching the sourcing threads with interest. I'm not for or against any particular style. However, having never seen the Mills book, I was curious if the material/examples used are generic/universal (ie can be used across countries) or predominently North American. Living in Australia, with most of my ancestors in England and Europe, I don't have much need for the American sources. To justify spending AUD$80-90 on her book, I'd need to have more than minimal usage of sources from the book. Cheers Tracy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Thanks, Ralf Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Yahoo! Answers and share what you know at http://ca.answers.yahoo.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Mills book on sourcing
Ralf, I don't think the new book is just an update of the old one. It is far superior; it is a replacement and more. It is about 6 times the size; maybe more. I was a little disappointed in the first one; the new one has so many more details. If you are going to buy the new one, I certainly would not bother with the old one as well. Hope fully that answers your question. Cheers, Mitch On 9/2/07, Ralf X [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *Certainly I think the new Mills books is far superior to the first one Evidence!, but it is expensive.* Mitch: Is Evidence Explained a newer version of Evidence! (is everything in Evidence! in Evidence Explained), or do you need both for a complete reference library? --- Mitch Mackrory [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tracy, The bulk of the book is related to the USA when it gets into details but Ms Mills does have a *lot* of general information that is not country specific; rather it is sourcing philosophy. I also got the quick reference chart when I bought the book and on there (if I can remember correctly), probably only 5% is UK related and that is 100% source and citation examples. I am in Japan until late Wednesday night; my book is at home in Colorado. I'd be happy to answer more specific questions after that. I am not sure the book would be worth your while. The quick reference chart may be what you are looking for at a much better price. All I really wanted was the examples of how she suggests doing a census, birth record, online source, etc. and it is a lot book to go thru (and a hefty price IMO). Certainly I think the new Mills books is far superior to the first one Evidence!, but it is expensive. Cheers, Mitch On 9/2/07, Tracy Skegg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Listers I've also been watching the sourcing threads with interest. I'm not for or against any particular style. However, having never seen the Mills book, I was curious if the material/examples used are generic/universal (ie can be used across countries) or predominently North American. Living in Australia, with most of my ancestors in England and Europe, I don't have much need for the American sources. To justify spending AUD$80-90 on her book, I'd need to have more than minimal usage of sources from the book. Cheers Tracy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Thanks, Ralf Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Yahoo! Answers and share what you know at http://ca.answers.yahoo.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Lost Icons
Rob, I wish it were so. I have one icon showing in the area where the icons should be. I have clicked and right clicked and nothing happens. Jean ---Original Message--- From: Rob Miller Date: 9/1/2007 9:11:30 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Lost Icons Jean: I believe if you right-click your mouse where the icons were you will see A window called Customize Family View Icons. Simply drag up the icons (left-click, hold and drag) from the bottom half of the box to the top half (in the order you want them). Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] A question for Geoff
I am using the MRIN system, but I did not buy my materials from Legacy. I went to my local Staples store and bought what I needed. The system can be somewhat taxing if you are trying to get *all* your paper documents in it. I decided early on that I would only place copies of the documents in the file. I keep my originals filed in folders in my filing cabinet. By placing only copies in notebooks, I do not use protective sleeves. One advantage of this is that I can get more paper documents in one notebook. One reason I'm using the system is so I can carry certain paper documents with me when I'm doing research. Not using protective sleeves eliminates the problem of having to use tabs that tend to extend past the edge of the notebook. One thing I don't like about the way I'm doing it is that I use the little round hole reinforcers and they can be a pain to place accurately--but I have to use them because the holes in copy paper sometimes tear. Sorry for this lengthy post, but I just thought I'd throw this approach in. Jim On 8/31/07, Ralf X [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the information and your reply Thomas! How are you enjoying the MRIN filing system? Positives? Negatives? If anyone else has any strong feelings about it I would really love to hear from you. Feel free to e-mail me privately ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). I need to start a filing system, but want to make sure it is the one for me before I purchase all the items. Thank you, Ralf Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] For Geoff
Tish, Apart from slides 9, 11 12, you can go at your won pace. Slide 11 12 go together altho I don't think that is very obvious. 12 shows the option to click. Would it help if I documented what those two (or three) slides are showing? Cheers, Mitch On 9/2/07, Tish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, Geoff, I have read and re-read these pages a number of times, but the ones that show us where to mark, move way too fast, and they do not allow us to pause and see in our own files how to do this. The CDs are wonderful for that. Tish Tish, Have you viewed the Legacy lesson at www.FileYourPapers.com? Thanks, Geoff Rasmussen Millennia Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LegacyFamilyTree.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tish Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 2:45 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] For Geoff Hi, now that you are probably in our Beautiful BC waters heading North, I don't know if you get e-mail. I have a huge request. Could - would you please make a CD of the MRIN filing system, begining with the printing of the Descendants Charts, right through putting data into the filing system? It would be a treasure, and one that we could study to our heart's content. What a help it would be, and I do thank you in advance. Looking forward to reading how to order. Tish Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.13.1/982 - Release Date: 8/31/2007 5:21 PM Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Lost Icons
Mystery solved!!! I enlarged the Individual's Information window and all the icons / buttons appeared. I reduced it with the standard windows button and all was fine. Evidently, I had resized the window by grabbing the edge and moving it in. At some point in the resize process the buttons disappear. All is fixed. Thanks for the support. Jean Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Chart printing
Bill: I don't think most people would ever want to print a chart with everyone in their database.. I for one have over 30,000 people in my database and a chart for everyone would probably be a block long - how do you print that and what would you do with it if you had it? Most people will probably only print a few generations of ancestors and/or descendants, say 5 to 10 and place them in a frame to hang on the wall. If I would try to print say 15 generations of all ancestors, my chart would probably exceed 100 pages. Most fan type charts for practical purposes are normally limited by the user to about 5-7 generations, otherwise, you cannot read the print or it gets too large to print economically. You might want to print a direct line ancestry chart which if you could get 5 generations per page, then a 25 generation ancestry chart would only be 5 pages - that would be ok. I have printed out over 100 generations like that and it is basically 2 people per generation. In Legacy 6, you can create a compact form of ancestors charts (Ancestor Chart) that is very useful for determining what lines of ancestors that you need to do more research on. You can start with the youngest person in your database for your family and create say 15 generations -- preview it first before you sent it to a printer - you may not want to print that many pages. I would suggest you try that 1st and see if that meets your needs. Chap On 9/1/07, Bill Dorothy Samson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anyone tell me how to print a chart with *all* individuals in my family tree data base displayed. I believe there are other programs that are capable of doing this, like Genbox. But I wish to know if Legacy is capable of this function. I am running the deluxe version. Bill No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.13.2/983 - Release Date: 1/09/2007 16:20 PM Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/LegacyLists.asp -- Leon Chapman [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] A question for Geoff
Jim et al, Thanks for the feedback on systems. One problem I have is a lot of older certificates mainly from the UK and some from South Africa. They used to produce them in foolscap size and even larger. The UK GRO now produces certificates that are more reasonably sized but I have trouble finding archival quality sleeves to suit my old documents. I have been to Gaylords but cannot find anything. Has anyone solved this one, please? Thanks, Mitch On 9/2/07, Jim Keener [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am using the MRIN system, but I did not buy my materials from Legacy. I went to my local Staples store and bought what I needed. The system can be somewhat taxing if you are trying to get all your paper documents in it. I decided early on that I would only place copies of the documents in the file. I keep my originals filed in folders in my filing cabinet. By placing only copies in notebooks, I do not use protective sleeves. One advantage of this is that I can get more paper documents in one notebook. One reason I'm using the system is so I can carry certain paper documents with me when I'm doing research. Not using protective sleeves eliminates the problem of having to use tabs that tend to extend past the edge of the notebook. One thing I don't like about the way I'm doing it is that I use the little round hole reinforcers and they can be a pain to place accurately--but I have to use them because the holes in copy paper sometimes tear. Sorry for this lengthy post, but I just thought I'd throw this approach in. Jim On 8/31/07, Ralf X [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the information and your reply Thomas! How are you enjoying the MRIN filing system? Positives? Negatives? If anyone else has any strong feelings about it I would really love to hear from you. Feel free to e-mail me privately ( [EMAIL PROTECTED]). I need to start a filing system, but want to make sure it is the one for me before I purchase all the items. Thank you, Ralf Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] A question for Geoff
You might want to try a scrapbook album instead. Mine is a 12 x12 and is big enough to hold my larger certificates when a regular sheet protector can't. Check out your local craft stores for scrapbooking supplies. They are archival safe now and have sheet protectors in them to slip in the documents. Here's a link to what I am talking about http://www.joann.com/joann/catalog.jsp;jsessionid=3GMTI4YFJKQOSP4SY5LVAFR50LD3UUPU?CATID=cat2613PRODID=prd54431 Renee Zamora www.harrisena.com - Original Message - From: Mitch Mackrory [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 10:21 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] A question for Geoff Jim et al, Thanks for the feedback on systems. One problem I have is a lot of older certificates mainly from the UK and some from South Africa. They used to produce them in foolscap size and even larger. The UK GRO now produces certificates that are more reasonably sized but I have trouble finding archival quality sleeves to suit my old documents. I have been to Gaylords but cannot find anything. Has anyone solved this one, please? Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Elizabeth Shown Mills - Splitter or Lumper?
Ralf: It's more than just a tad complicated! To respond to two of your posts at once: _Evidence!_ is a 124-page book geared almost exclusively to the family historian. _Evidence Explained_ is a *vastly* expanded 885 pages aimed at a rather broader audience. _Evidence Explained_ responds to questions generated by _Evidence!_ and in it, Mills has changed her approach on a few things. Having both books would certainly be overkill. Her recommendations in _Evidence Explained_ as you cite below definitely lean toward the splitting camp although she does have some lumping suggestions too. In my opinion after struggling with the examples for a few weeks, they don't work particularly well with the current Legacy structure. I see absolutely no way of achieving the exact citation format recommended by Evidence with Legacy and, in fact, following the examples somewhat defeats the convenience of Legacy's Master Source feature. Hopefully v7 will make things easier. Meanwhile if someone has had better luck getting an Evidence-style citation format from Legacy, I'd love to hear about how it's done. Kirsten -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ralf X Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 6:32 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Elizabeth Shown Mills - Splitter or Lumper? Am I correct in assuming that since Elizabeth Shown Mills includes the date a web page was accessed in the PUBLICATION FACTS, she leans towards splitting? (meaning you can't reuse the Master Source later on) EXAMPLE:(http://www.bobswebpage.com/cemetery : accessed 01 September 2007), entry for John Doe, section 1, plot 2, grave 3 But if she had included the accessed date in the SOURCE DETAIL instead, this would have been lumping? (meaning you can reuse the Master Source later on). EXAMPLE:(http://www.bobswebpage.com/cemeterydatabase), accessed 01 September 2007, entry for John Doe, section 1, plot 2, grave 3 I hope I'm making sense. Being relatively new to sourcing (okay bad me) I'm finding sourcing in this POST Evidence Explained and PRE Legacy 7.0 world a tad complicated. Thanks, Ralf Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] A question for Geoff
Thanks Renee, I am using something similar now; I was after something less bulky. If my wife sees me going to JO-Ann, it could cost em a lot more than just the protectors. Thanks for confirming I am on the right track (i.e. there is nothing else). Mitch On 9/2/07, Renee Zamora [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You might want to try a scrapbook album instead. Mine is a 12 x12 and is big enough to hold my larger certificates when a regular sheet protector can't. Check out your local craft stores for scrapbooking supplies. They are archival safe now and have sheet protectors in them to slip in the documents. Here's a link to what I am talking about http://www.joann.com/joann/catalog.jsp;jsessionid=3GMTI4YFJKQOSP4SY5LVAFR50LD3UUPU?CATID=cat2613PRODID=prd54431 Renee Zamora www.harrisena.com - Original Message - From: Mitch Mackrory [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 10:21 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] A question for Geoff Jim et al, Thanks for the feedback on systems. One problem I have is a lot of older certificates mainly from the UK and some from South Africa. They used to produce them in foolscap size and even larger. The UK GRO now produces certificates that are more reasonably sized but I have trouble finding archival quality sleeves to suit my old documents. I have been to Gaylords but cannot find anything. Has anyone solved this one, please? Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] For Geoff
I still can't see the options to click, Mitch. Yes, I can see that 11 and 12 go together, but I don't see where to click - and perhaps that is not really important. The little booklet that comes with the package, is most helpful, however - in the list report - when I printed it off, making sure that I asked for 'Spouse and Parents MRINs,' the pages that printed off do not look like what is shown. There is not two columns and there are not MRINs in one of them. Perhaps I am too picky, and perhaps I need to work with it in my own way - keeping the List report and the Pedigree charts in a separate binder. Thanks for your offer, Mitch, I am not sure if it would help; or not. Tish Tish, Apart from slides 9, 11 12, you can go at your won pace. Slide 11 12 go together altho I don't think that is very obvious. 12 shows the option to click. Would it help if I documented what those two (or three) slides are showing? Cheers, Mitch On 9/2/07, Tish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, Geoff, I have read and re-read these pages a number of times, but the ones that show us where to mark, move way too fast, and they do not allow us to pause and see in our own files how to do this. The CDs are wonderful for that. Tish Tish, Have you viewed the Legacy lesson at www.FileYourPapers.com? Thanks, Geoff Rasmussen Millennia Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LegacyFamilyTree.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tish Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 2:45 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] For Geoff Hi, now that you are probably in our Beautiful BC waters heading North, I don't know if you get e-mail. I have a huge request. Could - would you please make a CD of the MRIN filing system, begining with the printing of the Descendants Charts, right through putting data into the filing system? It would be a treasure, and one that we could study to our heart's content. What a help it would be, and I do thank you in advance. Looking forward to reading how to order. Tish Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.13.1/982 - Release Date: 8/31/2007 5:21 PM Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.13.1/982 - Release Date: 8/31/2007 5:21 PM Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
