Re: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates
Brian: On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Brian Beddor bbed...@japsolson.com wrote: Hi Sherry, Thanks for explaining. I have a question on using the Geo Location feature. S N I P P E D I also know that we should record place names as they were at that time. So, what should I be putting in the place location for the different times? And, if I'm entering the place for -- say 1700 would I put Nutfield, , New Hampshire, England? And if I do, how do I get the Geo Location to work for that that place/time? Not England, either New England, British North America or British North America There is also a New England, Australia, so just New England can be ambiguous. You could also use the Colony name, an example is New Haven Colony which merged with Connecticut in the 1660s and became New Haven, New Haven Co., Connecticut Colony, British North America. Of course, I don't always do it that way, but I think that would be more historically correct. That does not work with the Geo Locator database. Regards, Steven C. Perkins -- Steven C. Perkins scperk...@gmail.com http://stevencperkins.com/ Researching Indigenous Peoples' Rights http://intelligent-internet.info/law/ipr2.html Indigenous and Ethnic Minority Legal News http://iemlnews.blogspot.com/ Online Journal of Genetics and Genealogy http://jgg-online.blogspot.com/ Steven C. Perkins' Genealogy Page http://stevencperkins.com/genealogy.html Steven C. Perkins' Genealogy Blog http://scpgen.blogspot.com/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates
Hi Sherry, Could you elaborate on what Live Mapping is and how it is different from the Geo Location Database? How does one do Live Mapping from within the Legacy program? Thanks, Brian -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of Sherry/Support Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 11:12 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates There have never been any updates to the Geo Location Database and I don't know of any future plans to update it. Besides we have live mapping now which has much better coordinate information - just not the county information (which are current counties in Geo anyway) Thanks for using Legacy. Sherry Customer Support Millennia Corporation supp...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. Thanks. -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of Paula Ryburn Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 6:59 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates I know I'm late to this thread, but did anyone receive an answer from the programmers? Is there an update plan? I am thinking of implementing this functionality, but has its data maintenance been put on a back burner? Thanks, --Paula in Texas - Original Message From: Dennis M. Kowallek kowal...@iglou.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2009 8:44:43 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates On Sat, 8 Aug 2009 19:26:14 -0700, 1familytree 1familytree@gmail.com wrote: I am sure that there is a way to update the actual Geo-Code file in Legacy, but I am not a coder or programmer and don't want to do anything that might effect proper operation of my Legacy software. FYI. Legacy's Geo Database is password protected. The casual programmer cannot even see it's content, much less update it. And the .rdb files that you download to update Legacy's Geo Database are binary files of unknown (except to the Legacy programmers) structure. -- Dennis Kowallek (LTools) http://zippersoftware.com/ltools http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp The information contained in this message is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, dissemination or copying of this information is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender and delete the message from your system. Thank you. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates
Legacy v7 introduced mapping locations. I miswrote when I said Live Mapping - I meant Virtural Earth, now known as Bing. You have to be connected to the internet to use it and I suppose it is live in the sense that Legacy goes to the VE/Bing website and shows their map and geo-coordinates. It's much more accurate than Geo Location Database, however, it doesn't show counties like Geo does. Caveat - the locations in Geo and Bing are all current and there is no historical information. Well, occasionally I spot something that no longer exists but that's a rarity. Click on the Mapping icon on the main toolbar to create a map for the current individual or go into the Master Location List to map specific locations. Full details are in the Legacy Help file. Thanks for using Legacy. Sherry Customer Support Millennia Corporation supp...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. Thanks. -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of Brian Beddor Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 5:32 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates Hi Sherry, Could you elaborate on what Live Mapping is and how it is different from the Geo Location Database? How does one do Live Mapping from within the Legacy program? Thanks, Brian Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates
Hi Sherry, Thanks for explaining. I have a question on using the Geo Location feature. I understand when entering in the Place/location we should always allow for 4 spots and separate each with a comma -- so in the USA it would be: city, county, state, country. I also understand that if we don't know one of the fields that we leave it blank but still put in the comma for a place holder. Then we can click on the little blue earth icon and it will do a search for the location and put in the latitude and longitude. My question is how does that work when the name of a location changes over time? Let's take the town of Derry, Rockingham, New Hampshire, USA. If I have an event that happens today and I put this in the place/location and hit the Geo Location then it works beautifully giving me the latitude and longitude. And, if I don't know the name of the county, after hitting the Geo Location icon it will do a search and tell me the county is Rockingham. However, the town wasn't always called Derry -- it used to be Londonderry. And before it was Londonderry it was Nutfield. It was in 1722 that the name was changed from Nutfield to Londonderry. And at that time there was no United States -- and the county wasn't Rockingham. It wasn't until 1769 that there was the county of Rockingham. I also know that we should record place names as they were at that time. So, what should I be putting in the place location for the different times? And, if I'm entering the place for -- say 1700 would I put Nutfield, , New Hampshire, England? And if I do, how do I get the Geo Location to work for that that place/time? Thanks, Brian -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of Sherry/Support Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 10:21 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates Legacy v7 introduced mapping locations. I miswrote when I said Live Mapping - I meant Virtural Earth, now known as Bing. You have to be connected to the internet to use it and I suppose it is live in the sense that Legacy goes to the VE/Bing website and shows their map and geo-coordinates. It's much more accurate than Geo Location Database, however, it doesn't show counties like Geo does. Caveat - the locations in Geo and Bing are all current and there is no historical information. Well, occasionally I spot something that no longer exists but that's a rarity. Click on the Mapping icon on the main toolbar to create a map for the current individual or go into the Master Location List to map specific locations. Full details are in the Legacy Help file. Thanks for using Legacy. Sherry Customer Support Millennia Corporation supp...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. Thanks. -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of Brian Beddor Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 5:32 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates Hi Sherry, Could you elaborate on what Live Mapping is and how it is different from the Geo Location Database? How does one do Live Mapping from within the Legacy program? Thanks, Brian Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp The information contained in this message is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, dissemination or copying of this information is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender and delete the message from your system. Thank you. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates
I think Sherry has gone home, so I will help tonight. What we must do is use the current name for the location, capture the L/L, then in a persons input screen, change the location name to what it was at a given time. Then the L/L will be attached to two same/different places (sic). If you change it in the master list the change is universal. I have some places with over six different names (same L/L). Rich in LA CA - Original Message From: Brian Beddor bbed...@japsolson.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 2:17:56 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates Hi Sherry, Thanks for explaining. I have a question on using the Geo Location feature. I understand when entering in the Place/location we should always allow for 4 spots and separate each with a comma -- so in the USA it would be: city, county, state, country. I also understand that if we don't know one of the fields that we leave it blank but still put in the comma for a place holder. Then we can click on the little blue earth icon and it will do a search for the location and put in the latitude and longitude. My question is how does that work when the name of a location changes over time? Let's take the town of Derry, Rockingham, New Hampshire, USA. If I have an event that happens today and I put this in the place/location and hit the Geo Location then it works beautifully giving me the latitude and longitude. And, if I don't know the name of the county, after hitting the Geo Location icon it will do a search and tell me the county is Rockingham. However, the town wasn't always called Derry -- it used to be Londonderry. And before it was Londonderry it was Nutfield. It was in 1722 that the name was changed from Nutfield to Londonderry. And at that time there was no United States -- and the county wasn't Rockingham. It wasn't until 1769 that there was the county of Rockingham. I also know that we should record place names as they were at that time. So, what should I be putting in the place location for the different times? And, if I'm entering the place for -- say 1700 would I put Nutfield, , New Hampshire, England? And if I do, how do I get the Geo Location to work for that that place/time? Thanks, Brian -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of Sherry/Support Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 10:21 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates Legacy v7 introduced mapping locations. I miswrote when I said Live Mapping - I meant Virtural Earth, now known as Bing. You have to be connected to the internet to use it and I suppose it is live in the sense that Legacy goes to the VE/Bing website and shows their map and geo-coordinates. It's much more accurate than Geo Location Database, however, it doesn't show counties like Geo does. Caveat - the locations in Geo and Bing are all current and there is no historical information. Well, occasionally I spot something that no longer exists but that's a rarity. Click on the Mapping icon on the main toolbar to create a map for the current individual or go into the Master Location List to map specific locations. Full details are in the Legacy Help file. Thanks for using Legacy. Sherry Customer Support Millennia Corporation supp...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. Thanks. -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of Brian Beddor Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 5:32 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates Hi Sherry, Could you elaborate on what Live Mapping is and how it is different from the Geo Location Database? How does one do Live Mapping from within the Legacy program? Thanks, Brian Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp The information contained in this message is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, dissemination or copying of this information is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender and delete the message from your system. Thank you. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http
Re: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates
I know I'm late to this thread, but did anyone receive an answer from the programmers? Is there an update plan? I am thinking of implementing this functionality, but has its data maintenance been put on a back burner? Thanks, --Paula in Texas - Original Message From: Dennis M. Kowallek kowal...@iglou.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2009 8:44:43 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates On Sat, 8 Aug 2009 19:26:14 -0700, 1familytree 1familytree@gmail.com wrote: I am sure that there is a way to update the actual Geo-Code file in Legacy, but I am not a coder or programmer and don't want to do anything that might effect proper operation of my Legacy software. FYI. Legacy's Geo Database is password protected. The casual programmer cannot even see it's content, much less update it. And the .rdb files that you download to update Legacy's Geo Database are binary files of unknown (except to the Legacy programmers) structure. -- Dennis Kowallek (LTools) http://zippersoftware.com/ltools http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates
There have never been any updates to the Geo Location Database and I don't know of any future plans to update it. Besides we have live mapping now which has much better coordinate information - just not the county information (which are current counties in Geo anyway) Thanks for using Legacy. Sherry Customer Support Millennia Corporation supp...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. Thanks. -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of Paula Ryburn Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 6:59 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates I know I'm late to this thread, but did anyone receive an answer from the programmers? Is there an update plan? I am thinking of implementing this functionality, but has its data maintenance been put on a back burner? Thanks, --Paula in Texas - Original Message From: Dennis M. Kowallek kowal...@iglou.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2009 8:44:43 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates On Sat, 8 Aug 2009 19:26:14 -0700, 1familytree 1familytree@gmail.com wrote: I am sure that there is a way to update the actual Geo-Code file in Legacy, but I am not a coder or programmer and don't want to do anything that might effect proper operation of my Legacy software. FYI. Legacy's Geo Database is password protected. The casual programmer cannot even see it's content, much less update it. And the .rdb files that you download to update Legacy's Geo Database are binary files of unknown (except to the Legacy programmers) structure. -- Dennis Kowallek (LTools) http://zippersoftware.com/ltools http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates
Thanks, Sherry!! - Original Message From: Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 11:12:02 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates There have never been any updates to the Geo Location Database and I don't know of any future plans to update it. Besides we have live mapping now which has much better coordinate information - just not the county information (which are current counties in Geo anyway) Thanks for using Legacy. Sherry Customer Support Millennia Corporation supp...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. Thanks. -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of Paula Ryburn Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 6:59 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates I know I'm late to this thread, but did anyone receive an answer from the programmers? Is there an update plan? I am thinking of implementing this functionality, but has its data maintenance been put on a back burner? Thanks, --Paula in Texas - Original Message From: Dennis M. Kowallek kowal...@iglou.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2009 8:44:43 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates On Sat, 8 Aug 2009 19:26:14 -0700, 1familytree 1familytree@gmail.com wrote: I am sure that there is a way to update the actual Geo-Code file in Legacy, but I am not a coder or programmer and don't want to do anything that might effect proper operation of my Legacy software. FYI. Legacy's Geo Database is password protected. The casual programmer cannot even see it's content, much less update it. And the .rdb files that you download to update Legacy's Geo Database are binary files of unknown (except to the Legacy programmers) structure. -- Dennis Kowallek (LTools) http://zippersoftware.com/ltools http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates
Sherry, What is the live mapping that you referred to. When I Map My Family the only way that I know of to get coordinate information is to use the Geo Location Database. Did I miss an option setting somewhere? - Original Message - From: Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 12:12 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates There have never been any updates to the Geo Location Database and I don't know of any future plans to update it. Besides we have live mapping now which has much better coordinate information - just not the county information (which are current counties in Geo anyway) Thanks for using Legacy. Sherry Customer Support Millennia Corporation supp...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. Thanks. -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of Paula Ryburn Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 6:59 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates I know I'm late to this thread, but did anyone receive an answer from the programmers? Is there an update plan? I am thinking of implementing this functionality, but has its data maintenance been put on a back burner? Thanks, --Paula in Texas - Original Message From: Dennis M. Kowallek kowal...@iglou.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2009 8:44:43 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates On Sat, 8 Aug 2009 19:26:14 -0700, 1familytree 1familytree@gmail.com wrote: I am sure that there is a way to update the actual Geo-Code file in Legacy, but I am not a coder or programmer and don't want to do anything that might effect proper operation of my Legacy software. FYI. Legacy's Geo Database is password protected. The casual programmer cannot even see it's content, much less update it. And the .rdb files that you download to update Legacy's Geo Database are binary files of unknown (except to the Legacy programmers) structure. -- Dennis Kowallek (LTools) http://zippersoftware.com/ltools http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates
When you go to the Master Location List and select a location, you can Geo-code that location. If you're in the Map of Places for... window, click on the Resolve button to bring up the Master Location List where you can code the location. The Geo-code feature in the Master Location List codes according to what Bing (was Virtual Earth) has on file and doesn't use the Geo Location Database. Thanks for using Legacy. Sherry Customer Support Millennia Corporation supp...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. Thanks. -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of Wayne Boian Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 11:15 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates Sherry, What is the live mapping that you referred to. When I Map My Family the only way that I know of to get coordinate information is to use the Geo Location Database. Did I miss an option setting somewhere? - Original Message - From: Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 12:12 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates There have never been any updates to the Geo Location Database and I don't know of any future plans to update it. Besides we have live mapping now which has much better coordinate information - just not the county information (which are current counties in Geo anyway) Thanks for using Legacy. Sherry Customer Support Millennia Corporation supp...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. Thanks. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates
On Sun, 9 Aug 2009 06:42:08 -0400, Ron Bernier ronaldbern...@bernfrin.net wrote: Both the subject matter and the argument are totally off topic. Actually, with Jay's clarification I think it is on topic. Speaking as a neutral bystander (I don't use Legacy's Geo database), if all Jay was doing was pointing out that, in the absence of Legacy updating their database (beats me if they do or don't), there is an alternate source for the same kind of data, then I think it is entirely appropriate. In addition, I would suggest that anyone who feels that a subject *is* off-topic should take it up with the list administrator off-list. -- Dennis Kowallek (LTools) http://zippersoftware.com/ltools http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates
On Sat, 8 Aug 2009 19:26:14 -0700, 1familytree 1familytree@gmail.com wrote: I am sure that there is a way to update the actual Geo-Code file in Legacy, but I am not a coder or programmer and don't want to do anything that might effect proper operation of my Legacy software. FYI. Legacy's Geo Database is password protected. The casual programmer cannot even see it's content, much less update it. And the .rdb files that you download to update Legacy's Geo Database are binary files of unknown (except to the Legacy programmers) structure. -- Dennis Kowallek (LTools) http://zippersoftware.com/ltools http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates
Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 13:08:48 -0400 From: n2...@cfl.rr.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates 1familytree wrote: Mike, I was simply listing a url where you can acquire FREE an update for the Geo -Code database. In response to Ron's comment that the geo-code database has never been updated. I have been using (the updates) for several years, and I have NO affiliation with the company or the product. If you would rather I simply state the name of the company and let listers search for it themselves, I would be glad to do that. Jay Wilpolt 1familytree Out of fairness to you I went to your link, followed the directions and was rewarded with more than 33MB of useless text files. There is no way I can discern how this Free information can be integrated into Legacy. As this list is for Legacy, Legacy add-ons and all things Legacy, I can see where there is some, shall we say, annoyance about your posting of that link. Unless you can show how this Free info can be safely integrated into Legacy you owe everyone an apology. -- Gene Y. n2kvs Researching Young, Zies, Harer Cox with Legacy Family Tree http://h1.ripway.com/egptech/ Gene, I think that you may be being a little harsh here. I strongly suspect that Jay misunderstood the context of my response to the OP and was merely trying to suggest somewhere were updated lists are available. Ron Ferguson _ Tutorials: Programme of adding videos commenced http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ _ Upgrade to Internet Explorer 8 Optimised for MSN. http://extras.uk.msn.com/internet-explorer-8/?ocid=T010MSN07A0716U Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates
ronald ferguson wrote: Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 13:08:48 -0400 From: n2...@cfl.rr.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates 1familytree wrote: Mike, I was simply listing a url where you can acquire FREE an update for the Geo -Code database. In response to Ron's comment that the geo-code database has never been updated. I have been using (the updates) for several years, and I have NO affiliation with the company or the product. If you would rather I simply state the name of the company and let listers search for it themselves, I would be glad to do that. Jay Wilpolt 1familytree Out of fairness to you I went to your link, followed the directions and was rewarded with more than 33MB of useless text files. There is no way I can discern how this Free information can be integrated into Legacy. As this list is for Legacy, Legacy add-ons and all things Legacy, I can see where there is some, shall we say, annoyance about your posting of that link. Unless you can show how this Free info can be safely integrated into Legacy you owe everyone an apology. -- Gene Y. n2kvs Researching Young, Zies, Harer Cox with Legacy Family Tree http://h1.ripway.com/egptech/ Gene, I think that you may be being a little harsh here. I strongly suspect that Jay misunderstood the context of my response to the OP and was merely trying to suggest somewhere were updated lists are available. Ron Ferguson _ I thought I was being reasonable. I stand by what I said about the link being of no value and having nothing to do with Legacy. My entire post was with out emotion or rancor. The apology owed is for his first post and has nothing to do any other responses. I know my posts are sometimes short and may sound curt but if you read my post again you will see there was nothing harsh included or intended. And I still invite the OP to explain how that link can be used with Legacy or even be useful without spending money at the link's site. I may have missed something in the translation and if so would welcome that information. I do not believe, however, that that information is forthcoming. -- Gene Y. n2kvs Researching Young, Zies, Harer Cox with Legacy Family Tree http://h1.ripway.com/egptech/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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Gene, I was going to let all this pass, but I will refrain from typing what I am thinking. I guess my original post was not as explanatory as it should have been. I use the data from the file I receive as a separate reference database when locations cannot be found within the Geo-database incorporated into Legacy. AGAIN, I use it as a separate reference database. And if you are not comfortable with using database software, this is probably not a viable option for you. But I often see listers referring to manipulating their data in Access, so I would guess those people would find this option as a benefit. I am sure that there is a way to update the actual Geo-Code file in Legacy, but I am not a coder or programmer and don't want to do anything that might effect proper operation of my Legacy software. You say that you were rewarded with more than 33MB of useless text files, if so, you did not follow the directions properly. To use the link I provided for an update to the listing of the Geo-Database here are the steps I followed; Go to http://www.geodatasource.com/cities-free.html Click on download full version, make sure you are on the FREE page titled, GeoDataSourceT World Cities Database Free Edition If you are already a registered user of their site, log in and you will be directed to the download page. If you are not a registered user, you must register. There is NO Charge. After you register you will receive an email confirming your account is active and then log in and go to the download page. You can also go to the my account page and at the bottom of your page will show you what files you are entitled to, in my case, only 1 GeoDataSource-Cities-Free.Text.zip Download the FREE edition zipped file. You can then import that file into any database management product. To quote from their site; SQL Server, Oracle, MySQL, PostgreSQL or other database software application capable of importing 2,248,843 records from a standard tab-delimited ASCII text file and sufficient disk space to import the database Once you have imported the records into a database, you can use the search function to find cities. I do not know how old the Legacy version 7 Geo-Code database is, but in about half of the instances where I do not find a city in Legacy, I find them in GeoDataSource. The other half are usually misspelled or names that no longer exist. I was merely pointing out as a reply to a comment that the Legacy database has never been updated that this is what I use. GeoSourceData updates their downloadable free list every month. I have NO affiliation with that company nor any connection to the product. I hope that this can be of great help to those Legacy users who need a more current reference lookup that what Legacy provides. (Ron, Thank you for comment I strongly suspect that Jay misunderstood the context of my response to the OP and was merely trying to suggest somewhere were updated lists are available. That was exactly the intention.) -- From: Gene Young n2...@cfl.rr.com Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 5:32 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates ronald ferguson wrote: Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 13:08:48 -0400 From: n2...@cfl.rr.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates 1familytree wrote: Mike, I was simply listing a url where you can acquire FREE an update for the Geo -Code database. In response to Ron's comment that the geo-code database has never been updated. I have been using (the updates) for several years, and I have NO affiliation with the company or the product. If you would rather I simply state the name of the company and let listers search for it themselves, I would be glad to do that. Jay Wilpolt 1familytree Out of fairness to you I went to your link, followed the directions and was rewarded with more than 33MB of useless text files. There is no way I can discern how this Free information can be integrated into Legacy. As this list is for Legacy, Legacy add-ons and all things Legacy, I can see where there is some, shall we say, annoyance about your posting of that link. Unless you can show how this Free info can be safely integrated into Legacy you owe everyone an apology. -- Gene Y. n2kvs Researching Young, Zies, Harer Cox with Legacy Family Tree http://h1.ripway.com/egptech/ Gene, I think that you may be being a little harsh here. I strongly suspect that Jay misunderstood the context of my response to the OP and was merely trying to suggest somewhere were updated lists are available. Ron Ferguson _ I thought I was being reasonable. I stand by what I said about the link being of no value and having nothing to do with Legacy. My entire
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1familytree wrote: Gene, I was going to let all this pass, but I will refrain from typing what I am thinking. I guess my original post was not as explanatory as it should have been. You are correct, you should have been more clear and accurate in your statements. In your original post you indicated that you updated the Legacy geodatabase. It still has nothing to do with Legacy. It is not a Legacy add on or affiliate. Perhaps in the future you will clearly state what you mean. -- Gene Y. n2kvs Researching Young, Zies, Harer Cox with Legacy Family Tree http://h1.ripway.com/egptech/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates
Gene, I did not indicate in my original post that I could update the legacy database...I listed where you could find an updated Geo Location databasesee post below. I will not comment any further on this subject as it is not appropriate for the list. I suggest you do the same. Thank you. Jay Original post dated 8/7/2009 2:27 PM Geo Data can be updated MONTHLY from http://www.geodatasource.com/cities-free.html -- From: ronald ferguson ronfe...@msn.com Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 2:14 PM To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates To the best of my knowledge it has never been updated. Ron Ferguson -- From: Gene Young n2...@cfl.rr.com Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 7:54 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates 1familytree wrote: Gene, I was going to let all this pass, but I will refrain from typing what I am thinking. I guess my original post was not as explanatory as it should have been. You are correct, you should have been more clear and accurate in your statements. In your original post you indicated that you updated the Legacy geodatabase. It still has nothing to do with Legacy. It is not a Legacy add on or affiliate. Perhaps in the future you will clearly state what you mean. -- Gene Y. n2kvs Researching Young, Zies, Harer Cox with Legacy Family Tree http://h1.ripway.com/egptech/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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To the best of my knowledge it has never been updated. Ron Ferguson _ Tutorials: Programme of adding videos commenced http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: ddavis1...@live.com To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 15:38:06 -0500 With the discussion on the “Trouble loading Geo Location Database,” this prompted me to wonder how often the database is updated. Is the most recent update from when it was published at the start of 7 or is it updated since then? I have not or don’t recall any question like this being posed before. _ Windows Live Messenger: Thanks for 10 great years—enjoy free winks and emoticons. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/157562755/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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1familytree wrote: Geo Data can be updated MONTHLY from some snipped url Please don't SPAM the list :-( -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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Mike, Just in case others are in doubt. That URL has nothing to do with Legacy. Ron Ferguson _ Tutorials: Programme of adding videos commenced http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 00:03:07 +0200 From: mike...@iafrica.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates 1familytree wrote: Geo Data can be updated MONTHLY from Please don't SPAM the list :-( -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg. _ Celebrate a decade of Messenger with free winks, emoticons, display pics, and more. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/157562755/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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ronald ferguson wrote: Just in case others are in doubt. That URL has nothing to do with Legacy. I know! That's why I deigned not to repeat it. -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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Is this the database that is used? If so, then how to use it to update and are the updates worth the time and effort? -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of 1familytree Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 5:27 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates Geo Data can be updated MONTHLY from http://www.geodatasource.com/cities-free.html -- From: ronald ferguson ronfe...@msn.com Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 2:14 PM To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates To the best of my knowledge it has never been updated. Ron Ferguson _ Tutorials: Programme of adding videos commenced http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: ddavis1...@live.com To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 15:38:06 -0500 With the discussion on the Trouble loading Geo Location Database, this prompted me to wonder how often the database is updated. Is the most recent update from when it was published at the start of 7 or is it updated since then? I have not or don't recall any question like this being posed before. _ Windows Live Messenger: Thanks for 10 great years-enjoy free winks and emoticons. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/157562755/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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See Mike's and my previous posts No, No, No and No. Ron Ferguson _ Tutorials: Programme of adding videos commenced http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: ddavis1...@live.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 19:00:27 -0400 Is this the database that is used? If so, then how to use it to update and are the updates worth the time and effort? -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of 1familytree Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 5:27 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates Geo Data can be updated MONTHLY from http://www.geodatasource.com/cities-free.html -- From: ronald ferguson Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 2:14 PM To: Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates To the best of my knowledge it has never been updated. Ron Ferguson _ Windows Live Messenger: Celebrate 10 amazing years with free winks and emoticons. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/157562755/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates
Mike, I was simply listing a url where you can acquire FREE an update for the Geo -Code database. In response to Ron's comment that the geo-code database has never been updated. I have been using (the updates) for several years, and I have NO affiliation with the company or the product. If you would rather I simply state the name of the company and let listers search for it themselves, I would be glad to do that. Jay Wilpolt 1familytree -- From: Mike Fry mike...@iafrica.com Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 3:03 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates 1familytree wrote: Geo Data can be updated MONTHLY from some snipped url Please don't SPAM the list :-( -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
