Re: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates

2009-09-17 Thread steven perkins
Brian:

On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Brian Beddor  wrote:
> Hi Sherry,
> Thanks for explaining.
>
> I have a question on using the Geo Location feature.

S N I P P E D

> I also know that we should record place names as they were at that time.
> So, what should I be putting in the place location for the different
> times?

> And, if I'm entering the place for -- say 1700 would I put "Nutfield, ,
> New Hampshire, England"? And if I do, how do I get the Geo Location to
> work for that that place/time?

Not England, either "New England, British North America" or "British
North America"  There is also a New England, Australia, so just New
England can be ambiguous.  You could also use the Colony name,  an
example is New Haven Colony which merged with Connecticut in the 1660s
and became New Haven, New Haven Co., Connecticut Colony, British North
America.

Of course, I don't always do it that way,  but I think that would be
more historically correct. That does not work with the Geo Locator
database.

Regards,

Steven C. Perkins



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Re: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates

2009-09-16 Thread RICHARD SCHULTHIES
I think Sherry has gone home, so I will help tonight. What we must do is use 
the current name for the location, capture the L/L, then in a persons input 
screen, change the location name to what it was at a given time. Then the L/L 
will be attached to two same/different places (sic).  If you change it in the 
master list the change is universal. I have some places with over six different 
names  (same L/L). 
Rich in LA CA



- Original Message 
From: Brian Beddor 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 2:17:56 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates

Hi Sherry,
Thanks for explaining.

I have a question on using the Geo Location feature.  I understand when
entering in the "Place/location" we should always allow for 4 spots and
separate each with a comma -- so in the USA it would be: city, county,
state, country.  I also understand that if we don't know one of the
fields that we leave it blank but still put in the comma for a place
holder.  Then we can click on the little blue earth icon and it will do
a search for the location and put in the latitude and longitude.  

My question is how does that work when the name of a location changes
over time?  
Let's take the town of Derry, Rockingham, New Hampshire, USA.  If I have
an event that happens today and I put this in the place/location and hit
the Geo Location then it works beautifully giving me the latitude and
longitude.  And, if I don't know the name of the county, after hitting
the Geo Location icon it will do a search and tell me the county is
Rockingham.

However, the town wasn't always called Derry -- it used to be
"Londonderry".  And before it was "Londonderry" it was "Nutfield". It
was in 1722 that the name was changed from Nutfield to Londonderry.  And
at that time there was no United States -- and the county wasn't
Rockingham. It wasn't until 1769 that there was the county of
Rockingham.

I also know that we should record place names as they were at that time.
So, what should I be putting in the place location for the different
times?
And, if I'm entering the place for -- say 1700 would I put "Nutfield, ,
New Hampshire, England"? And if I do, how do I get the Geo Location to
work for that that place/time?

Thanks,
Brian



-Original Message-
From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On
Behalf Of Sherry/Support
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 10:21 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates

Legacy v7 introduced mapping locations.  I miswrote when I said "Live
Mapping" - I meant "Virtural Earth", now known as "Bing".  You have to
be
connected to the internet to use it and I suppose it is "live" in the
sense
that Legacy goes to the VE/Bing website and shows their map and
geo-coordinates.

It's much more accurate than Geo Location Database, however, it doesn't
show
counties like Geo does.  Caveat - the locations in Geo and Bing are all
current and there is no historical information.  Well, occasionally I
spot
something that no longer exists but that's a rarity.

Click on the Mapping icon on the main toolbar to create a map for the
current individual or go into the Master Location List to map specific
locations.

Full details are in the Legacy Help file.


Thanks for using Legacy.

Sherry
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
supp...@legacyfamilytree.com
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We are changing the world of genealogy!

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Of Brian Beddor
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 5:32 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates

Hi Sherry,
Could you elaborate on what "Live Mapping" is and how it is different
from
the "Geo Location Database"?
How does one do "Live Mapping" from within the Legacy program?

Thanks,
Brian




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RE: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates

2009-09-16 Thread Brian Beddor
Hi Sherry,
Thanks for explaining.

I have a question on using the Geo Location feature.  I understand when
entering in the "Place/location" we should always allow for 4 spots and
separate each with a comma -- so in the USA it would be: city, county,
state, country.  I also understand that if we don't know one of the
fields that we leave it blank but still put in the comma for a place
holder.  Then we can click on the little blue earth icon and it will do
a search for the location and put in the latitude and longitude.  

My question is how does that work when the name of a location changes
over time?  
Let's take the town of Derry, Rockingham, New Hampshire, USA.  If I have
an event that happens today and I put this in the place/location and hit
the Geo Location then it works beautifully giving me the latitude and
longitude.  And, if I don't know the name of the county, after hitting
the Geo Location icon it will do a search and tell me the county is
Rockingham.

However, the town wasn't always called Derry -- it used to be
"Londonderry".  And before it was "Londonderry" it was "Nutfield". It
was in 1722 that the name was changed from Nutfield to Londonderry.  And
at that time there was no United States -- and the county wasn't
Rockingham. It wasn't until 1769 that there was the county of
Rockingham.

I also know that we should record place names as they were at that time.
So, what should I be putting in the place location for the different
times?
And, if I'm entering the place for -- say 1700 would I put "Nutfield, ,
New Hampshire, England"? And if I do, how do I get the Geo Location to
work for that that place/time?

Thanks,
Brian



-Original Message-
From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On
Behalf Of Sherry/Support
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 10:21 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates

Legacy v7 introduced mapping locations.  I miswrote when I said "Live
Mapping" - I meant "Virtural Earth", now known as "Bing".  You have to
be
connected to the internet to use it and I suppose it is "live" in the
sense
that Legacy goes to the VE/Bing website and shows their map and
geo-coordinates.

It's much more accurate than Geo Location Database, however, it doesn't
show
counties like Geo does.  Caveat - the locations in Geo and Bing are all
current and there is no historical information.  Well, occasionally I
spot
something that no longer exists but that's a rarity.

Click on the Mapping icon on the main toolbar to create a map for the
current individual or go into the Master Location List to map specific
locations.

Full details are in the Legacy Help file.


Thanks for using Legacy.

Sherry
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
supp...@legacyfamilytree.com
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

We are changing the world of genealogy!

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correspondence.
Thanks.



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From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On
Behalf
Of Brian Beddor
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 5:32 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates

Hi Sherry,
Could you elaborate on what "Live Mapping" is and how it is different
from
the "Geo Location Database"?
How does one do "Live Mapping" from within the Legacy program?

Thanks,
Brian




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RE: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates

2009-09-16 Thread Sherry/Support
Legacy v7 introduced mapping locations.  I miswrote when I said "Live
Mapping" - I meant "Virtural Earth", now known as "Bing".  You have to be
connected to the internet to use it and I suppose it is "live" in the sense
that Legacy goes to the VE/Bing website and shows their map and
geo-coordinates.

It's much more accurate than Geo Location Database, however, it doesn't show
counties like Geo does.  Caveat - the locations in Geo and Bing are all
current and there is no historical information.  Well, occasionally I spot
something that no longer exists but that's a rarity.

Click on the Mapping icon on the main toolbar to create a map for the
current individual or go into the Master Location List to map specific
locations.

Full details are in the Legacy Help file.


Thanks for using Legacy.

Sherry
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
supp...@legacyfamilytree.com
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

We are changing the world of genealogy!

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Thanks.



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From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Brian Beddor
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 5:32 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates

Hi Sherry,
Could you elaborate on what "Live Mapping" is and how it is different from
the "Geo Location Database"?
How does one do "Live Mapping" from within the Legacy program?

Thanks,
Brian




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RE: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates

2009-09-16 Thread Brian Beddor
Hi Sherry,
Could you elaborate on what "Live Mapping" is and how it is different from the 
"Geo Location Database"?
How does one do "Live Mapping" from within the Legacy program?

Thanks,
Brian

-Original Message-
From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of 
Sherry/Support
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 11:12 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates

There have never been any updates to the Geo Location Database and I don't
know of any future plans to update it.   Besides we have live mapping now
which has much better coordinate information - just not the county
information (which are current counties in Geo anyway)

Thanks for using Legacy.

Sherry
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
supp...@legacyfamilytree.com
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

We are changing the world of genealogy!

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Thanks.


-Original Message-
From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Paula Ryburn
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 6:59 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates

I know I'm late to this thread, but did anyone receive an answer from the
programmers?  Is there an update plan?  I am thinking of implementing this
functionality, but has its data maintenance been put on a back burner?
Thanks,
--Paula in Texas

- Original Message 
From: Dennis M. Kowallek 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2009 8:44:43 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates

On Sat, 8 Aug 2009 19:26:14 -0700, "1familytree"
<1familytree@gmail.com> wrote:

>I am sure that there is a way to update the actual Geo-Code file in Legacy,

>but I am not a coder or programmer and don't want to do anything that might

>effect proper operation of my Legacy software.

FYI. Legacy's Geo Database is password protected. The casual programmer
cannot even see it's content, much less update it. And the .rdb files
that you download to update Legacy's Geo Database are binary files of
unknown (except to the Legacy programmers) structure.

-- 

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RE: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates

2009-09-15 Thread Sherry/Support
When you go to the Master Location List and select a location, you can
Geo-code that location.  If you're in the Map of Places for... window, click
on the Resolve button to bring up the Master Location List where you can
code the location.

The Geo-code feature in the Master Location List codes according to what
Bing (was Virtual Earth) has on file and doesn't use the Geo Location
Database.

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From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Wayne Boian
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 11:15 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates

Sherry,
What is the live mapping that you referred to.
When I Map My Family the only way that I know of to get coordinate 
information is to use the Geo Location Database. Did I miss an option 
setting somewhere?

- Original Message - 
From: "Sherry/Support" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 12:12 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates


There have never been any updates to the Geo Location Database and I don't
know of any future plans to update it.   Besides we have live mapping now
which has much better coordinate information - just not the county
information (which are current counties in Geo anyway)

Thanks for using Legacy.

Sherry
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Millennia Corporation
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http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

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Re: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates

2009-09-15 Thread Wayne Boian

Sherry,
What is the live mapping that you referred to.
When I Map My Family the only way that I know of to get coordinate 
information is to use the Geo Location Database. Did I miss an option 
setting somewhere?


- Original Message - 
From: "Sherry/Support" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 12:12 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates


There have never been any updates to the Geo Location Database and I don't
know of any future plans to update it.   Besides we have live mapping now
which has much better coordinate information - just not the county
information (which are current counties in Geo anyway)

Thanks for using Legacy.

Sherry
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
supp...@legacyfamilytree.com
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

We are changing the world of genealogy!

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-Original Message-
From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Paula Ryburn
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 6:59 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates

I know I'm late to this thread, but did anyone receive an answer from the
programmers? Is there an update plan? I am thinking of implementing this
functionality, but has its data maintenance been put on a back burner?
Thanks,
--Paula in Texas

- Original Message 
From: Dennis M. Kowallek 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2009 8:44:43 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates

On Sat, 8 Aug 2009 19:26:14 -0700, "1familytree"
<1familytree@gmail.com> wrote:


I am sure that there is a way to update the actual Geo-Code file in Legacy,



but I am not a coder or programmer and don't want to do anything that might



effect proper operation of my Legacy software.


FYI. Legacy's Geo Database is password protected. The casual programmer
cannot even see it's content, much less update it. And the .rdb files
that you download to update Legacy's Geo Database are binary files of
unknown (except to the Legacy programmers) structure.

--

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http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools




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Re: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates

2009-09-15 Thread Paula Ryburn
Thanks, Sherry!!



- Original Message 
From: Sherry/Support 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 11:12:02 AM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates

There have never been any updates to the Geo Location Database and I don't
know of any future plans to update it.  Besides we have live mapping now
which has much better coordinate information - just not the county
information (which are current counties in Geo anyway)

Thanks for using Legacy.

Sherry
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
supp...@legacyfamilytree.com
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

We are changing the world of genealogy!

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Thanks.


-Original Message-
From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Paula Ryburn
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 6:59 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates

I know I'm late to this thread, but did anyone receive an answer from the
programmers?  Is there an update plan?  I am thinking of implementing this
functionality, but has its data maintenance been put on a back burner?
Thanks,
--Paula in Texas

- Original Message 
From: Dennis M. Kowallek 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2009 8:44:43 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates

On Sat, 8 Aug 2009 19:26:14 -0700, "1familytree"
<1familytree@gmail.com> wrote:

>I am sure that there is a way to update the actual Geo-Code file in Legacy,

>but I am not a coder or programmer and don't want to do anything that might

>effect proper operation of my Legacy software.

FYI. Legacy's Geo Database is password protected. The casual programmer
cannot even see it's content, much less update it. And the .rdb files
that you download to update Legacy's Geo Database are binary files of
unknown (except to the Legacy programmers) structure.

-- 

Dennis Kowallek (LTools)
http://zippersoftware.com/ltools
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools




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RE: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates

2009-09-15 Thread Sherry/Support
There have never been any updates to the Geo Location Database and I don't
know of any future plans to update it.   Besides we have live mapping now
which has much better coordinate information - just not the county
information (which are current counties in Geo anyway)

Thanks for using Legacy.

Sherry
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
supp...@legacyfamilytree.com
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

We are changing the world of genealogy!

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Thanks.


-Original Message-
From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Paula Ryburn
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 6:59 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates

I know I'm late to this thread, but did anyone receive an answer from the
programmers?  Is there an update plan?  I am thinking of implementing this
functionality, but has its data maintenance been put on a back burner?
Thanks,
--Paula in Texas

- Original Message 
From: Dennis M. Kowallek 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2009 8:44:43 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates

On Sat, 8 Aug 2009 19:26:14 -0700, "1familytree"
<1familytree@gmail.com> wrote:

>I am sure that there is a way to update the actual Geo-Code file in Legacy,

>but I am not a coder or programmer and don't want to do anything that might

>effect proper operation of my Legacy software.

FYI. Legacy's Geo Database is password protected. The casual programmer
cannot even see it's content, much less update it. And the .rdb files
that you download to update Legacy's Geo Database are binary files of
unknown (except to the Legacy programmers) structure.

-- 

Dennis Kowallek (LTools)
http://zippersoftware.com/ltools
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools




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Re: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates

2009-09-15 Thread Paula Ryburn
I know I'm late to this thread, but did anyone receive an answer from the 
programmers?  Is there an update plan?  I am thinking of implementing this 
functionality, but has its data maintenance been put on a back burner?
Thanks,
--Paula in Texas



- Original Message 
From: Dennis M. Kowallek 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2009 8:44:43 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates

On Sat, 8 Aug 2009 19:26:14 -0700, "1familytree"
<1familytree@gmail.com> wrote:

>I am sure that there is a way to update the actual Geo-Code file in Legacy, 
>but I am not a coder or programmer and don't want to do anything that might 
>effect proper operation of my Legacy software.

FYI. Legacy's Geo Database is password protected. The casual programmer
cannot even see it's content, much less update it. And the .rdb files
that you download to update Legacy's Geo Database are binary files of
unknown (except to the Legacy programmers) structure.

-- 

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http://zippersoftware.com/ltools
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Re: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates

2009-08-09 Thread Dennis M . Kowallek
On Sat, 8 Aug 2009 19:26:14 -0700, "1familytree"
<1familytree@gmail.com> wrote:

>I am sure that there is a way to update the actual Geo-Code file in Legacy, 
>but I am not a coder or programmer and don't want to do anything that might 
>effect proper operation of my Legacy software.

FYI. Legacy's Geo Database is password protected. The casual programmer
cannot even see it's content, much less update it. And the .rdb files
that you download to update Legacy's Geo Database are binary files of
unknown (except to the Legacy programmers) structure.
 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates

2009-08-09 Thread Dennis M . Kowallek
On Sun, 9 Aug 2009 06:42:08 -0400, Ron Bernier
 wrote:

>Both the subject matter and the argument are totally off topic.

Actually, with Jay's clarification I think it is on topic. Speaking as a
neutral bystander (I don't use Legacy's Geo database), if all Jay was
doing was pointing out that, in the absence of Legacy updating their
database (beats me if they do or don't), there is an alternate source
for the same kind of data, then I think it is entirely appropriate.

In addition, I would suggest that anyone who feels that a subject *is*
off-topic should take it up with the list administrator off-list.
 
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RE: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates

2009-08-09 Thread Ron Bernier
Could someone from Legacy Staff please step in and put an end to these two 
children bickering.  Both the subject matter and the argument are totally off 
topic.

Ron Bernier
Woonsocket, RI

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From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of 
1familytree
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 12:20 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates

Gene,

I did not indicate in my original post that I could update the legacy 
database...I listed where you could find an updated Geo Location 
databasesee post below.

I will not comment any further on this subject as it is not appropriate for 
the list. I suggest you do the same.

Thank you.

Jay






Original post dated 8/7/2009 2:27 PM


Geo Data can be updated MONTHLY from
http://www.geodatasource.com/cities-free.html



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From: "ronald ferguson" 
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 2:14 PM
To: 
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates

>
> To the best of my knowledge it has never been updated.
>
>
>
> Ron Ferguson






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Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 7:54 PM
To: 
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> 1familytree wrote:
>> Gene,
>>
>> I was going to let all this pass, but I will refrain from typing what I 
>> am thinking.
>>
>> I guess my original post was not as explanatory as it should have been.
>>
>
> You are correct,  you should have been more clear and accurate in your 
> statements.  In your original post you indicated that you updated the 
> Legacy geodatabase.  It still has nothing to do with Legacy.  It is not a 
> Legacy add on or affiliate.  Perhaps in the future you will clearly state 
> what you mean.
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates

2009-08-08 Thread 1familytree

Gene,

I did not indicate in my original post that I could update the legacy 
database...I listed where you could find an updated Geo Location 
databasesee post below.


I will not comment any further on this subject as it is not appropriate for 
the list. I suggest you do the same.


Thank you.

Jay






Original post dated 8/7/2009 2:27 PM


Geo Data can be updated MONTHLY from
http://www.geodatasource.com/cities-free.html



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From: "ronald ferguson" 
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 2:14 PM
To: 
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates



To the best of my knowledge it has never been updated.



Ron Ferguson







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To: 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates


1familytree wrote:

Gene,

I was going to let all this pass, but I will refrain from typing what I 
am thinking.


I guess my original post was not as explanatory as it should have been.



You are correct,  you should have been more clear and accurate in your 
statements.  In your original post you indicated that you updated the 
Legacy geodatabase.  It still has nothing to do with Legacy.  It is not a 
Legacy add on or affiliate.  Perhaps in the future you will clearly state 
what you mean.


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Re: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates

2009-08-08 Thread Gene Young

1familytree wrote:

Gene,

I was going to let all this pass, but I will refrain from typing what I 
am thinking.


I guess my original post was not as explanatory as it should have been.



You are correct,  you should have been more clear and accurate in your 
statements.  In your original post you indicated that you updated the 
Legacy geodatabase.  It still has nothing to do with Legacy.  It is not 
a Legacy add on or affiliate.  Perhaps in the future you will clearly 
state what you mean.


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Re: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates

2009-08-08 Thread 1familytree

Gene,

I was going to let all this pass, but I will refrain from typing what I am 
thinking.


I guess my original post was not as explanatory as it should have been.

I use the data from the file I receive as a separate reference database when 
locations cannot be found within the Geo-database incorporated into Legacy.


AGAIN, I use it as a separate reference database.

And if you are not comfortable with using database software, this is 
probably not a viable option for you. But I often see listers referring to 
manipulating their data in Access, so I would guess those people would find 
this option as a benefit.


I am sure that there is a way to update the actual Geo-Code file in Legacy, 
but I am not a coder or programmer and don't want to do anything that might 
effect proper operation of my Legacy software.


You say that you were "rewarded with more than 33MB of useless text files", 
if so, you did not follow the directions properly.



To use the link I provided for an update to the listing of the Geo-Database 
here are the steps I followed;

Go to http://www.geodatasource.com/cities-free.html

Click on download full version, make sure you are on the FREE page titled, 
"GeoDataSourceT World Cities Database Free Edition"
If you are already a registered user of their site, log in and you will be 
directed to the download page.

If you are not a registered user, you must register. There is NO Charge.
After you register you will receive an email confirming your account is 
active and then log in and go to the download page.
You can also go to the "my account" page and at the bottom of your page will 
show you what files you are entitled to, in my case, only 1 
"GeoDataSource-Cities-Free.Text.zip"

Download the FREE edition zipped file.

You can then import that file into any database management product. To quote 
from their site;
"SQL Server, Oracle, MySQL, PostgreSQL or other database software 
application capable of importing 2,248,843 records from a standard 
tab-delimited ASCII text file and sufficient disk space to import the 
database "


Once you have imported the records into a database, you can use the search 
function to find cities.


I do not know how old the Legacy version 7 Geo-Code database is, but in 
about half of the instances where I do not find a city in Legacy, I find 
them in GeoDataSource. The other half are usually misspelled or names that 
no longer exist.


I was merely pointing out as a reply to a comment that the "Legacy database 
has never been updated" that this is what I use.

GeoSourceData updates their downloadable free list every month.

I have NO affiliation with that company nor any connection to the product.

I hope that this can be of great help to those Legacy users who need a more 
current reference lookup that what Legacy provides.


(Ron, Thank you for comment "I strongly suspect that Jay 
misunderstood the context of my response to the OP and was merely trying to 
suggest somewhere were updated lists are available."

That was exactly the intention.)


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To: 
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ronald ferguson wrote:





Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 13:08:48 -0400
From: n2...@cfl.rr.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates

1familytree wrote:

Mike,

I was simply listing a url where you can acquire FREE an update for the
Geo -Code database.

In response to Ron's comment that the geo-code database has never been
updated.

I have been using (the updates) for several years, and I have NO
affiliation with the company or the product.

If you would rather I simply state the name of the company and let
listers search for it themselves, I would be glad to do that.

Jay Wilpolt
1familytree

Out of fairness to you I went to your link, followed the directions and
was rewarded with more than 33MB of useless text files. There is no way
I can discern how this "Free" information can be integrated into Legacy.
As this list is for Legacy, Legacy add-ons and all things Legacy, I
can see where there is some, shall we say, annoyance about your posting
of that link. Unless you can show how this "Free" info can be safely
integrated into Legacy you owe everyone an apology.

--
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n2kvs
Researching Young, Zies, Harer & Cox with
Legacy Family Tree
http://h1.ripway.com/egptech/


 Gene,
 I think that you may be being a little harsh here. I strongly suspect 
that Jay misunderstood the context of my response to the OP and was 
merely trying to suggest somewhere were updated lists are available.

 Ron Ferguson
_


I thought I was being reasonable.  I stand by what I sai

Re: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates

2009-08-08 Thread Gene Young

ronald ferguson wrote:





Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 13:08:48 -0400
From: n2...@cfl.rr.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates

1familytree wrote:

Mike,

I was simply listing a url where you can acquire FREE an update for the
Geo -Code database.

In response to Ron's comment that the geo-code database has never been
updated.

I have been using (the updates) for several years, and I have NO
affiliation with the company or the product.

If you would rather I simply state the name of the company and let
listers search for it themselves, I would be glad to do that.

Jay Wilpolt
1familytree

Out of fairness to you I went to your link, followed the directions and
was rewarded with more than 33MB of useless text files. There is no way
I can discern how this "Free" information can be integrated into Legacy.
As this list is for Legacy, Legacy add-ons and all things Legacy, I
can see where there is some, shall we say, annoyance about your posting
of that link. Unless you can show how this "Free" info can be safely
integrated into Legacy you owe everyone an apology.

--
Gene Y.
n2kvs
Researching Young, Zies, Harer & Cox with
Legacy Family Tree
http://h1.ripway.com/egptech/


 
Gene,
 
I think that you may be being a little harsh here. I strongly suspect that Jay misunderstood the context of my response to the OP and was merely trying to suggest somewhere were updated lists are available.
 
 


Ron Ferguson
_


I thought I was being reasonable.  I stand by what I said about the link 
 being of no value and having nothing to do with Legacy.  My entire 
post was with out emotion or rancor. The apology owed is for his first 
post and has nothing to do any other responses.


I know my posts are sometimes short and may sound curt but if you read 
my post again you will see there was nothing harsh included or intended. 
 And I still invite the OP to explain how that link can be used with 
Legacy or even be useful without spending money at the link's site.  I 
may have missed something in the translation and if so would welcome 
that information.  I do not believe, however, that that information is 
forthcoming.


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RE: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates

2009-08-08 Thread ronald ferguson




> Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 13:08:48 -0400
> From: n2...@cfl.rr.com
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates
>
> 1familytree wrote:
>> Mike,
>>
>> I was simply listing a url where you can acquire FREE an update for the
>> Geo -Code database.
>>
>> In response to Ron's comment that the geo-code database has never been
>> updated.
>>
>> I have been using (the updates) for several years, and I have NO
>> affiliation with the company or the product.
>>
>> If you would rather I simply state the name of the company and let
>> listers search for it themselves, I would be glad to do that.
>>
>> Jay Wilpolt
>> 1familytree
>
> Out of fairness to you I went to your link, followed the directions and
> was rewarded with more than 33MB of useless text files. There is no way
> I can discern how this "Free" information can be integrated into Legacy.
> As this list is for Legacy, Legacy add-ons and all things Legacy, I
> can see where there is some, shall we say, annoyance about your posting
> of that link. Unless you can show how this "Free" info can be safely
> integrated into Legacy you owe everyone an apology.
>
> --
> Gene Y.
> n2kvs
> Researching Young, Zies, Harer & Cox with
> Legacy Family Tree
> http://h1.ripway.com/egptech/

 
Gene,
 
I think that you may be being a little harsh here. I strongly suspect that Jay 
misunderstood the context of my response to the OP and was merely trying to 
suggest somewhere were updated lists are available.
 
 

Ron Ferguson
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Re: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates

2009-08-08 Thread Gene Young

1familytree wrote:

Mike,

I was simply listing a url where you can acquire FREE an update for the 
Geo -Code database.


In response to Ron's comment that the geo-code database has never been 
updated.


I have been using (the updates) for several years, and I have NO 
affiliation with the company or the product.


If you would rather I simply state the name of the company and let 
listers search for it themselves, I would be glad to do that.


Jay Wilpolt
1familytree


Out of fairness to you I went to your link, followed the directions and 
was rewarded with more than 33MB of useless text files.  There is no way 
I can discern how this "Free" information can be integrated into Legacy. 
 As this list is for Legacy, Legacy add-ons and all things Legacy, I 
can see where there is some, shall we say, annoyance about your posting 
of that link.  Unless you can show how this "Free" info can be safely 
integrated into Legacy you owe everyone an apology.


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Re: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates

2009-08-07 Thread 1familytree

Mike,

I was simply listing a url where you can acquire FREE an update for the 
Geo -Code database.


In response to Ron's comment that the geo-code database has never been 
updated.


I have been using (the updates) for several years, and I have NO affiliation 
with the company or the product.


If you would rather I simply state the name of the company and let listers 
search for it themselves, I would be glad to do that.


Jay Wilpolt
1familytree



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Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 3:03 PM
To: 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates


1familytree wrote:

Geo Data can be updated MONTHLY from 


Please don't SPAM the list :-(

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RE: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates

2009-08-07 Thread ronald ferguson

See Mike's and my previous posts No, No, No and No.



Ron Ferguson

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> From: ddavis1...@live.com
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates
> Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 19:00:27 -0400
>
> Is this the database that is used? If so, then how to use it to update and
> are the updates worth the time and effort?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
> Of 1familytree
> Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 5:27 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates
>
> Geo Data can be updated MONTHLY from
> http://www.geodatasource.com/cities-free.html
>
>
>
> --
> From: "ronald ferguson" 
> Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 2:14 PM
> To: 
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates
>
>>
>> To the best of my knowledge it has never been updated.
>>
>>
>>
>> Ron Ferguson
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RE: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates

2009-08-07 Thread D Davis
Is this the database that is used? If so, then how to use it to update and
are the updates worth the time and effort? 

-Original Message-
From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of 1familytree
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 5:27 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates

Geo Data can be updated MONTHLY from 
http://www.geodatasource.com/cities-free.html



--
From: "ronald ferguson" 
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 2:14 PM
To: 
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates

>
> To the best of my knowledge it has never been updated.
>
>
>
> Ron Ferguson
>
> _
>
> Tutorials: Programme of adding videos commenced
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
> View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
> For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
> _
>
>
>
>
>
> 
>> From: ddavis1...@live.com
>> To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
>> Subject: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates
>> Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 15:38:06 -0500
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> With the discussion on the "Trouble loading Geo Location Database," this 
>> prompted me to wonder how often the database is updated. Is the most 
>> recent update from when it was published at the start of 7 or is it 
>> updated since then? I have not or don't recall any question like this 
>> being posed before.
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates

2009-08-07 Thread Mike Fry

ronald ferguson wrote:


Just in case others are in doubt. That URL has nothing to do with Legacy.


I know! That's why I deigned not to repeat it.

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RE: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates

2009-08-07 Thread ronald ferguson


Mike,
 
Just in case others are in doubt. That URL has nothing to do with Legacy.


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> Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 00:03:07 +0200
> From: mike...@iafrica.com
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates
>
> 1familytree wrote:
>> Geo Data can be updated MONTHLY from
>> 
>
> Please don't SPAM the list :-(
>
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> Regards,
> Mike Fry
> Johannesburg.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates

2009-08-07 Thread Mike Fry

1familytree wrote:
Geo Data can be updated MONTHLY from 



Please don't SPAM the list :-(

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Re: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates

2009-08-07 Thread 1familytree
Geo Data can be updated MONTHLY from 
http://www.geodatasource.com/cities-free.html




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From: "ronald ferguson" 
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To the best of my knowledge it has never been updated.



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From: ddavis1...@live.com
To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 15:38:06 -0500









With the discussion on the “Trouble loading Geo Location Database,” this 
prompted me to wonder how often the database is updated. Is the most 
recent update from when it was published at the start of 7 or is it 
updated since then? I have not or don’t recall any question like this 
being posed before.





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RE: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates

2009-08-07 Thread ronald ferguson

To the best of my knowledge it has never been updated.



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> From: ddavis1...@live.com
> To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates
> Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 15:38:06 -0500
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> With the discussion on the “Trouble loading Geo Location Database,” this 
> prompted me to wonder how often the database is updated. Is the most recent 
> update from when it was published at the start of 7 or is it updated since 
> then? I have not or don’t recall any question like this being posed before.
>
>
>
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