RE: [LegacyUG] Advice on event names
I prefer to have them sort by location, rather than by category. We're all different, right? (: Janis -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wynthner Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 7:02 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Advice on event names I don't consider Tax Rolls (or for that matter the US Census) as events; imho they are merely sources for the information they contain about certain aspects of an individual's life (place of residence at that particular instance in time, etc.). As sources I would set them up as: Tax Roll Mississippi 1816 Territorial Tax Roll Mississippi 1820 Perry County Thus all tax rolls would sort by state by year by county in the Master Source List - Original Message From: Michele Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Legacy E-Mail List LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 9:59:02 AM Subject: [LegacyUG] Advice on event names I would like your advice on event names. I am inputting tax rolls. Should I just put the event name as Tax Roll and then put all the details in other spots or should I put then entire name 1816 Mississippi Territorial Tax Roll 1820 Perry County, Mississippi Tax Roll michele Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Advice on event names
If you use the Chronology View, or Report, I think it's rather nice to have the census info display in it. Gives you a good quick overview of the family, without going to the source. It looks better if you follow Geoff's tip, and leave a blank line at the top of the note field, the Chronology page will have a cleaner look. As to relabeling my Census events by Census years, thanks to those who pointed out the relative uselessness of such a move. Somehow the thought that it could be useful just kept hovering.. Janis From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mary Figgins Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 5:14 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Advice on event names The date and location go in the appropriate locations. Then all the information goes in the source. If there is something I think I need to have in the event, I add it into the notes. Information such as extended members of the family that were living there, etc. Mary Beth Figgins Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Advice on event names
Thanks Mike, Although I should point out that the set of CDs produced by the LDS Church is quite clearly labelled 1881 British Census and includes England, Scotland, Wales, Channel Islands, Isle of Man and Royal Navy. Cheers, Jan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Fry Sent: Thursday, 14 February 2008 9:12:AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Advice on event names Jan Roberts wrote: No, because I add the date to the Date field - my resulting sentence then reads blah blah blah in the 1851 British Census. (British being in the Description field) To be exact, it's the Census of England Wales. Scotland and Ireland, although held at the same time, are actually different Sources. -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.4/1277 - Release Date: 13.02.2008 8:00:PM Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Advice on event names
I prefer to make my sources as below: MST 1816 Tax or MS Perry 1820 Census. Keeping each state together, then subdivisions, then date, finally what the document contains. I attach to the source in the text field a transcription (or photocopy) of it. This makes it easier to spot what you are missing. Rich in LA CA --- Michele Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like your advice on event names. I am inputting tax rolls. Should I just put the event name as Tax Roll and then put all the details in other spots or should I put then entire name 1816 Mississippi Territorial Tax Roll 1820 Perry County, Mississippi Tax Roll michele Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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Jan Roberts wrote: Thanks Mike, Although I should point out that the set of CDs produced by the LDS Church is quite clearly labelled 1881 British Census and includes England, Scotland, Wales, Channel Islands, Isle of Man and Royal Navy. Yes! That's because Americans think that Scotland Ireland are States within the UK. The TNA regards the censuses as separate entities, based on the legal system: England Wales being one entity, Scotland a second and Ireland (north south until partition) a third. -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Advice on event names
Janis Gilmore wrote: I put the exact date in the date field, too. But wouldn't it sometimes be handy to be able to bookmark those who do not have an 1860 census event, or something of the sort? Isn't that what the Research Guidance is supposed to do? -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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If I may interject my thought here. I find this rather interesting. When I think of England, Ireland, Wales, Scotland, South Africa, Australia, New Zealand etc., I think of individually governed countries within a single nation unit. In example the British Isles. When I see the term Britain or British Isles, etc. I think of the nation unit that is over the individual countries. I know nation might not be the right word Britain, in my humble mind, seems to me to be the overall government and Ireland, Scotland, Wales, England, Australia are all ultimately ruled by the Crown. I did seem to consider that the Royal Crown was over all the British holdings, and each of them are individually governed within themselves. Almost like our state and federal relationship, except I see Britain as allowing a greater self-governing rule with some minor overseeing by the Crown; where as in the United States, there's this HUMONGOUS federal government where people like to dictate what the individual states can and cannot do. If I'm wrong (and I probably am), I love to know 'exactly' how this really is I have lots of ancestry and interest in I will accept private eMail ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) if this would be too far off topic. _ From Mike Fry Yes! That's because Americans think that Scotland Ireland are States within the UK. The TNA regards the censuses as separate entities, based on the legal system: England Wales being one entity, Scotland a second and Ireland (north south until partition) a third. _ Jan Roberts wrote: Thanks Mike, Although I should point out that the set of CDs produced by the LDS Church is quite clearly labelled 1881 British Census and includes England, Scotland, Wales, Channel Islands, Isle of Man and Royal Navy. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Advice on event names
Point taken! I will amend my Census entries forthwith. Cheers, Jan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Fry Sent: Thursday, 14 February 2008 7:38:PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Advice on event names Jan Roberts wrote: Thanks Mike, Although I should point out that the set of CDs produced by the LDS Church is quite clearly labelled 1881 British Census and includes England, Scotland, Wales, Channel Islands, Isle of Man and Royal Navy. Yes! That's because Americans think that Scotland Ireland are States within the UK. The TNA regards the censuses as separate entities, based on the legal system: England Wales being one entity, Scotland a second and Ireland (north south until partition) a third. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.4/1277 - Release Date: 13.02.2008 8:00:PM Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Advice on event names
Joseph, Much of this is in the archives but perhaps worth repeating. The British Isles is *not* a nation state (ie. country) but a geographical name for a group of islands. Great Britain comprises the countries of England, Scotland and Wales only The United Kingdom comprises Great Britain (as above) plus Northern Ireland. Southern Ireland has been an independant Republic since 1921 (or 1922) prior to that, together with Northern Ireland - which was not a separate entity, it was part of the United Kingdom. The Isle of Man is a dependant territory and not part of the Great Britain nor of the United Kingdom. Each of the constituent parts of the the United Kingdom has its own parliament (or in the case of Wales an Assembly) except for England which does not. It is not correct to say that members of the Commonwealth eg Australia, Canada, South Africa etc. are ultimately governed by the crown although in these cases and some others, but not all, the Queen is the titular head of state, with very limited powers (if any). At the very most the Queen *may* be enabled to pull the politicians together to appoint a temporary Prime Minister in cases of deadlock or emergency. The members of the Commonwealth are not part of Great Britain nor of the United Kingdom. Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk New Blog: Open Legacy Family File with Open Office View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Advice on event names Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 05:00:48 -0600 If I may interject my thought here. I find this rather interesting. When I think of England, Ireland, Wales, Scotland, South Africa, Australia, New Zealand etc., I think of individually governed countries within a single nation unit. In example the British Isles. When I see the term Britain or British Isles, etc. I think of the nation unit that is over the individual countries. I know nation might not be the right word Britain, in my humble mind, seems to me to be the overall government and Ireland, Scotland, Wales, England, Australia are all ultimately ruled by the Crown. I did seem to consider that the Royal Crown was over all the British holdings, and each of them are individually governed within themselves. Almost like our state and federal relationship, except I see Britain as allowing a greater self-governing rule with some minor overseeing by the Crown; where as in the United States, there's this HUMONGOUS federal government where people like to dictate what the individual states can and cannot do. If I'm wrong (and I probably am), I love to know 'exactly' how this really is I have lots of ancestry and interest in I will accept private eMail ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) if this would be too far off topic. _ From Mike Fry Yes! That's because Americans think that Scotland Ireland are States within the UK. The TNA regards the censuses as separate entities, based on the legal system: England Wales being one entity, Scotland a second and Ireland (north south until partition) a third. _ Jan Roberts wrote: Thanks Mike, Although I should point out that the set of CDs produced by the LDS Church is quite clearly labelled 1881 British Census and includes England, Scotland, Wales, Channel Islands, Isle of Man and Royal Navy. _ Telly addicts unite! http://www.searchgamesbox.com/tvtown.shtml Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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As this is getting off-topic, I'm not going to respond directly to Joseph here (as it's a long story), but, Joseph, you haven't quite grasped the details of the politics, geography, Etc., of the United Kingdom or the British Isles. Don't worry about not getting it though, it is quite complicated. For anyone who's interested, I've just created a web page with a little bit of further information (some pulled from Wikipedia, some from my own knowledge as an Irishman) at http://homepage.eircom.net/~theq47/uk.html. I believe all the information I've given is correct, but it may not be. If you want some further info on this, or want to enquire into it in more depth, please feel free to e-mail me **OFF-LIST**. Regards, Dermot. On 14/02/2008, Joseph (Ragweed) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip When I see the term Britain or British Isles, etc. I think of the nation unit that is over the individual countries. I know nation might not be the right word Britain, in my humble mind, seems to me to be the overall government and Ireland, Scotland, Wales, England, Australia are all ultimately ruled by the Crown. I did seem to consider that the Royal Crown was over all the British holdings, and each of them are individually governed within themselves. Almost like our state and federal relationship, except I see Britain as allowing a greater self-governing rule with some minor overseeing by the Crown; where as in the United States, there's this HUMONGOUS federal government where people like to dictate what the individual states can and cannot do. If I'm wrong (and I probably am), I love to know 'exactly' how this really is I have lots of ancestry and interest in /snip Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Advice on event names
So where have you been for the last few decades? South Africa, Australia, New Zealand part of Great Britain?? They are totally independent countries - but who remain members of a club called the Commonwealth and many retain the Queen as a ceremonial head of state. Ireland is an island off the coast of Great Britain and part of it is an independent country (ROI) and part of it is within the United Kingdom. Great Britain is England, Wales and Scotland - and Scotland has always had different laws to England and Wales, as does Northern Ireland. Both again have their own parliaments. British Isles is not even a country but a set of islands off the coast of Europe, some are within the UK but many aren't. The largest island is called Great Britain. Basically, nothing like the state and federal system whatsoever. So, where is Little Britain? Jack -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joseph (Ragweed) Sent: 14 February 2008 11:01 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Advice on event names If I may interject my thought here. I find this rather interesting. When I think of England, Ireland, Wales, Scotland, South Africa, Australia, New Zealand etc., I think of individually governed countries within a single nation unit. In example the British Isles. When I see the term Britain or British Isles, etc. I think of the nation unit that is over the individual countries. I know nation might not be the right word Britain, in my humble mind, seems to me to be the overall government and Ireland, Scotland, Wales, England, Australia are all ultimately ruled by the Crown. I did seem to consider that the Royal Crown was over all the British holdings, and each of them are individually governed within themselves. Almost like our state and federal relationship, except I see Britain as allowing a greater self-governing rule with some minor overseeing by the Crown; where as in the United States, there's this HUMONGOUS federal government where people like to dictate what the individual states can and cannot do. If I'm wrong (and I probably am), I love to know 'exactly' how this really is I have lots of ancestry and interest in I will accept private eMail ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) if this would be too far off topic. _ From Mike Fry Yes! That's because Americans think that Scotland Ireland are States within the UK. The TNA regards the censuses as separate entities, based on the legal system: England Wales being one entity, Scotland a second and Ireland (north south until partition) a third. _ Jan Roberts wrote: Thanks Mike, Although I should point out that the set of CDs produced by the LDS Church is quite clearly labelled 1881 British Census and includes England, Scotland, Wales, Channel Islands, Isle of Man and Royal Navy. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.4/1276 - Release Date: 13/02/2008 09:41 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.5/1278 - Release Date: 14/02/2008 10:28 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Advice on event names
I consider them event because they put the person at a specific place at a specific time. I like to put this in events because then when I look at the chronology it will show their migratory route. If I were to put this in the notes somewhere I might miss where they were at a certain time and overlook possible records. michele - Original Message - From: Wynthner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 7:02 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Advice on event names I don't consider Tax Rolls (or for that matter the US Census) as events; imho they are merely sources for the information they contain about certain aspects of an individual's life (place of residence at that particular instance in time, etc.). As sources I would set them up as: Tax Roll Mississippi 1816 Territorial Tax Roll Mississippi 1820 Perry County Thus all tax rolls would sort by state by year by county in the Master Source List Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Advice on event names
Whenever I add census data I add the Residence event at the same time for all members of the family.. This keeps the census a source, not an event. Elizabeth C Michele Lewis wrote: I consider them event because they put the person at a specific place at a specific time. I like to put this in events because then when I look at the chronology it will show their migratory route. If I were to put this in the notes somewhere I might miss where they were at a certain time and overlook possible records. michele - Original Message - From: Wynthner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 7:02 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Advice on event names I don't consider Tax Rolls (or for that matter the US Census) as events; imho they are merely sources for the information they contain about certain aspects of an individual's life (place of residence at that particular instance in time, etc.). As sources I would set them up as: Tax Roll Mississippi 1816 Territorial Tax Roll Mississippi 1820 Perry County Thus all tax rolls would sort by state by year by county in the Master Source List Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Advice on event names
I put items such as tax rolls and census with the event - residence - and the source as the tax roll or census. Mary Beth Figgins Michele Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I consider them event because they put the person at a specific place at a specific time. I like to put this in events because then when I look at the chronology it will show their migratory route. If I were to put this in the notes somewhere I might miss where they were at a certain time and overlook possible records. michele - Original Message - From: Wynthner To: Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 7:02 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Advice on event names I don't consider Tax Rolls (or for that matter the US Census) as events; imho they are merely sources for the information they contain about certain aspects of an individual's life (place of residence at that particular instance in time, etc.). As sources I would set them up as: Tax Roll Mississippi 1816 Territorial Tax Roll Mississippi 1820 Perry County Thus all tax rolls would sort by state by year by county in the Master Source List Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Advice on event names
Then were do you record all of the info on the tax roll itself or the census? Do you put that in the notes under residence? That would see a bit odd to me but whatever works for you I guess. I am thinking that if someone paid a $5 tax for owning a clock that has nothing to do with his residence. michele - Original Message - From: Mary Figgins To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 10:14 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Advice on event names I put items such as tax rolls and census with the event - residence - and the source as the tax roll or census. Mary Beth Figgins Michele Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I consider them event because they put the person at a specific place at a specific time. I like to put this in events because then when I look at the chronology it will show their migratory route. If I were to put this in the notes somewhere I might miss where they were at a certain time and overlook possible records. michele - Original Message - From: Wynthner To: Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 7:02 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Advice on event names I don't consider Tax Rolls (or for that matter the US Census) as events; imho they are merely sources for the information they contain about certain aspects of an individual's life (place of residence at that particular instance in time, etc.). As sources I would set them up as: Tax Roll Mississippi 1816 Territorial Tax Roll Mississippi 1820 Perry County Thus all tax rolls would sort by state by year by county in the Master Source List Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp -- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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Elizabeth Cunningham wrote This keeps the census a source, not an event. Of course, we are all free to do things our own way, but if we bear in mind that Legacy often refers to Events/Facts rather than just Events, I think it makes easier to see why some of use treat things like Censuses not just as Sources. To me, it is a fact that someone was enumerated for a Census so I enter Census information as an Event/Fact as well as citing the Census as a Source for information such as names of family members, residence, occupation etc. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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The date and location go in the appropriate locations. Then all the information goes in the source. If there is something I think I need to have in the event, I add it into the notes. Information such as extended members of the family that were living there, etc. Mary Beth Figgins Michele Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then were do you record all of the info on the tax roll itself or the census? Do you put that in the notes under residence? That would see a bit odd to me but whatever works for you I guess. I am thinking that if someone paid a $5 tax for owning a clock that has nothing to do with his residence. michele - Original Message - From:MaryFiggins To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 10:14AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Advice on eventnames I put items such as tax rolls and census with the event -residence - and the source as the tax roll or census. Mary BethFiggins Michele Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I consider them event because they put the person at a specific place at a specific time. I like to put this in events because then when I look at the chronology it will show their migratory route. If I were to put this in the notes somewhere I might miss where they were at a certain time and overlook possible records. michele - Original Message - From: Wynthner To: Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 7:02 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Advice on event names I don't consider Tax Rolls (or for that matter the US Census) as events; imho they are merely sources for the information they contain about certain aspects of an individual's life (place of residence at that particular instance in time, etc.). As sources I would set them up as: Tax Roll Mississippi 1816 Territorial Tax Roll Mississippi 1820 Perry County Thus all tax rolls would sort by state by year by county in the Master Source List Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp - Never miss a thing. Make Yahooyour homepage.Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archivedmessages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Onlinetechnical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Tounsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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As long as you have the census date in the date field, couldn't you do a search for all who DON'T have a census event with a date that includes 1860 (to use your example)? Obviously, you could narrow it down further using the location and/or description field. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Janis Gilmore Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 6:08 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Advice on event names I put the exact date in the date field, too. But wouldn't it sometimes be handy to be able to bookmark those who do not have an 1860 census event, or something of the sort? Janis -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jenny M Benson Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 8:52 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Advice on event names Janis Gilmore wrote Having said that, however, I have considered the possible value of changing my Census events to 1850 Census, 1860 Census, etc. Does anyone else do this? I don't consider including the year is necessary because I put the exact date in the Date field. I do, however, have separate Event names for the different Censuses - England Census, Wales Census, Channel Islands Census and in a couple of instances United States Census. If I was researching mainly in the USA or had many more Census Events there, I might split the US Censuses by State. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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I do also include the Census as an event. For any given census, I often have, as events, the census, the residence, and the occupation. Elizabeth C Jenny M Benson wrote: Elizabeth Cunningham wrote This keeps the census a source, not an event. Of course, we are all free to do things our own way, but if we bear in mind that Legacy often refers to Events/Facts rather than just Events, I think it makes easier to see why some of use treat things like Censuses not just as Sources. To me, it is a fact that someone was enumerated for a Census so I enter Census information as an Event/Fact as well as citing the Census as a Source for information such as names of family members, residence, occupation etc. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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Michele Lewis wrote Should I just put the event name as Tax Roll and then put all the details in other spots or should I put then entire name 1816 Mississippi Territorial Tax Roll 1820 Perry County, Mississippi Tax Roll Personally, I would use Tax Roll as the Event Name and the other information in the Description field. As far as using these Tax Rolls as sources, it all depends on whether you are what is known round here as a Lumper or a Splitter. Personally, I am a dyed-in-the-wool Lumper and again I would use Tax Roll as the Master Source and put the other information into the Details. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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Everyone can and should use whatever they want to use. I use Federal Census or State Census and enter the information in rather than make the information part of the title. I would use Tax Roll. The reason is if you put in separate tax rolls, no telling how many of those you will have. It would make searching them harder, I would think, having to remember the exact event name. Robert Janis Gilmore wrote: I started out using more specific Event Names, but have simplified. Tax Roll would be plenty for me. Having said that, however, I have considered the possible value of changing my Census events to 1850 Census, 1860 Census, etc. Does anyone else do this? Janis Walker Gilmore -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michele Lewis Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 7:59 AM To: Legacy E-Mail List Subject: [LegacyUG] Advice on event names I would like your advice on event names. I am inputting tax rolls. Should I just put the event name as Tax Roll and then put all the details in other spots or should I put then entire name 1816 Mississippi Territorial Tax Roll 1820 Perry County, Mississippi Tax Roll michele Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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Janis Gilmore wrote Having said that, however, I have considered the possible value of changing my Census events to 1850 Census, 1860 Census, etc. Does anyone else do this? I don't consider including the year is necessary because I put the exact date in the Date field. I do, however, have separate Event names for the different Censuses - England Census, Wales Census, Channel Islands Census and in a couple of instances United States Census. If I was researching mainly in the USA or had many more Census Events there, I might split the US Censuses by State. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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No, because I add the date to the Date field - my resulting sentence then reads blah blah blah in the 1851 British Census. (British being in the Description field) Cheers, Jan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Janis Gilmore Sent: Thursday, 14 February 2008 3:12:AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Advice on event names I started out using more specific Event Names, but have simplified. Tax Roll would be plenty for me. Having said that, however, I have considered the possible value of changing my Census events to 1850 Census, 1860 Census, etc. Does anyone else do this? Janis Walker Gilmore No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.4/1276 - Release Date: 13.02.2008 9:41:AM Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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Jan Roberts wrote: No, because I add the date to the Date field - my resulting sentence then reads blah blah blah in the 1851 British Census. (British being in the Description field) To be exact, it's the Census of England Wales. Scotland and Ireland, although held at the same time, are actually different Sources. -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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I put the exact date in the date field, too. But wouldn't it sometimes be handy to be able to bookmark those who do not have an 1860 census event, or something of the sort? Janis -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jenny M Benson Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 8:52 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Advice on event names Janis Gilmore wrote Having said that, however, I have considered the possible value of changing my Census events to 1850 Census, 1860 Census, etc. Does anyone else do this? I don't consider including the year is necessary because I put the exact date in the Date field. I do, however, have separate Event names for the different Censuses - England Census, Wales Census, Channel Islands Census and in a couple of instances United States Census. If I was researching mainly in the USA or had many more Census Events there, I might split the US Censuses by State. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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Not *always* Mike, but close :-) Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk New Blog: Open Legacy Family File with Open Office View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 00:11:50 +0200 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Advice on event names Jan Roberts wrote: No, because I add the date to the Date field - my resulting sentence then reads blah blah blah in the 1851 British Census. (British being in the Description field) To be exact, it's the Census of England Wales. Scotland and Ireland, although held at the same time, are actually different Sources. -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg. _ Get Hotmail on your mobile, text MSN to 63463! http://mobile.uk.msn.com/pc/mail.aspx Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Advice on event names
I don't consider Tax Rolls (or for that matter the US Census) as events; imho they are merely sources for the information they contain about certain aspects of an individual's life (place of residence at that particular instance in time, etc.). As sources I would set them up as: Tax Roll Mississippi 1816 Territorial Tax Roll Mississippi 1820 Perry County Thus all tax rolls would sort by state by year by county in the Master Source List - Original Message From: Michele Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Legacy E-Mail List LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 9:59:02 AM Subject: [LegacyUG] Advice on event names I would like your advice on event names. I am inputting tax rolls. Should I just put the event name as Tax Roll and then put all the details in other spots or should I put then entire name 1816 Mississippi Territorial Tax Roll 1820 Perry County, Mississippi Tax Roll michele Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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I strongly disagree with this approach. I would sort them in the Source list as: Mississippi, Territorial - Tax Roll 1816 Mississippi, Perry - Tax Roll 1820 I think it is much more convenient to be able to find your sources by geography than by source type. Janis -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wynthner Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 4:02 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Advice on event names I don't consider Tax Rolls (or for that matter the US Census) as events; imho they are merely sources for the information they contain about certain aspects of an individual's life (place of residence at that particular instance in time, etc.). As sources I would set them up as: Tax Roll Mississippi 1816 Territorial Tax Roll Mississippi 1820 Perry County Thus all tax rolls would sort by state by year by county in the Master Source List - Original Message From: Michele Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Legacy E-Mail List LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 9:59:02 AM Subject: [LegacyUG] Advice on event names I would like your advice on event names. I am inputting tax rolls. Should I just put the event name as Tax Roll and then put all the details in other spots or should I put then entire name 1816 Mississippi Territorial Tax Roll 1820 Perry County, Mississippi Tax Roll michele Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
