Re: [LegacyUG] Dropbox
It's no different to keeping the files locally - I just point Legacy to the Dropbox location so yes, very simple. I keep backups in a different location locally. I am in the process of transferring all media files to Dropbox as well - much easier to share. If you have space on Dropbox I'd say use it. G Sent from my iPad On 8 Dec 2013, at 14:19, Elizabeth Hatchell elizab...@hatchells.co.uk wrote: Graham - if you keep your working file on Dropbox, is it quite simple to do? Do you save a backup there every time you close Legacy or is your whole file system on Dropbox? I use Dropbox to share files and photos with friends but not as a regular backup facility. Do you recommend this? On 8 December 2013 08:37, Graham Love love-fam...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: I keep my working file there. Sent from my iPad On 7 Dec 2013, at 20:36, Bruce Jones juicebo...@gmail.com wrote: How are users implementing Dropbox with Legacy 8? Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Dropbox
Thanks Graham. Yes, only dabbling with Dropbox at the moment so will move all Legacy there I think. E. On 9 December 2013 08:59, Graham Love love-fam...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: It's no different to keeping the files locally - I just point Legacy to the Dropbox location so yes, very simple. I keep backups in a different location locally. I am in the process of transferring all media files to Dropbox as well - much easier to share. If you have space on Dropbox I'd say use it. G Sent from my iPad On 8 Dec 2013, at 14:19, Elizabeth Hatchell elizab...@hatchells.co.uk wrote: Graham - if you keep your working file on Dropbox, is it quite simple to do? Do you save a backup there every time you close Legacy or is your whole file system on Dropbox? I use Dropbox to share files and photos with friends but not as a regular backup facility. Do you recommend this? On 8 December 2013 08:37, Graham Love love-fam...@blueyonder.co.ukwrote: I keep my working file there. Sent from my iPad On 7 Dec 2013, at 20:36, Bruce Jones juicebo...@gmail.com wrote: How are users implementing Dropbox with Legacy 8? Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Individual's details on Descendant screen
Boyd, Haven't seen any replies to this - have had a look and that is now working in mine either - perhaps you should put in a bug report. Marion On 9 December 2013 14:54, Boyd Miller bo...@vodafone.net.nz wrote: I understand from Page 18 of the User Guide that on the Descendants screen, *As each name is highlighted, the birth and death information is shown at the bottom of the window along with marriage details*. This worked properly in L7.5 but does not appear to work in L8. The picture on in the manual shows a Descendant screen with an individual highlighted, but there are no details for that person at the bottom of the screen. There is an arrow labelled Birth, marriage, and death information is shown for the highlighted person pointing vaguely to the middle of the Birth Date column - obviously the wrong place. Is this information function available or not, have I inadvertently set something incorrectly, or do we have a bug? Does anyone else have this problem? Boyd -- http://www.avast.com/ This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirushttp://www.avast.com/protection is active. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Organizing Data Files
I don't have confusion and I have multiple lines and projects. Name the files to avoid confusion. Grayscot, jonesjames, etc. Or do I misunderstand the question? The backups will carry the file name and date (date added may be a setting). On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 9:10 PM, grayscot2 graysc...@gmail.com wrote: The sub-directory Data under Legacy Family Tree, wherever you keep it, gets pretty messy with multiple trees. Anyone have a good way to keep down the confusion? I'd like to put all the files for each tree in a Data sub-folder, but the location option has to be set to just one sub-folder: Legacy Family Tree\Data. Won't all the files and backups get dumped into Data on closing, even if I open them from each of the trees sub-folders in Data.? --- Prescott Smithgraysc...@gmail.com --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] No emails
If only it were that simple. Spam has been an ongoing and growing problem for any server that receives email. The ever increasing volume has meant that providers have to increase their infrastructure just to handle emails that aren’t wanted. Moreover, it’s one of the biggest sources of dissatisfaction and complaints by subscribers. Over the years, large receivers of email have tried to stop (delete) messages identified as spam before they enter their system where the unwanted traffic would cause bottlenecks and complaints. Those attempts have often wrongly blocked messages from entire domains that have a high percentage of compromised accounts being used for spam, such as AOL, Yahoo, and MSN. Those tend to go in cycles. Today, many ISPs use blacklisting services that use differing criteria that then block domains, down to individual addresses. Some of these services are very responsive to request to be unlisted, others verify the accuracy of a listing when they get around to it, which can be months. I send a newsletter to customers who have requested to be included (under 2500) and it became impossible to keep up with the increasing number of services and trying to monitor which, if any, had blacklisted our mail server. Then to make matters worse, the mail server was shared by the thousands of domains housed in the server center. So, I could find my email being blocked because of the actions of an unrelated site. The more a service monitors and intervenes when a problem arises, the higher the cost. Costs increase in relation to the volume of messages as well and spikes in volume can lead to blacklisting as it may be assumed that the increase is due to spam. But, to the point, the mail list is not a service that you or I pay for, it doesn’t produce any revenue; only costs. I don’t understand why you assume that Legacy “must have some vested interest in the third party which they are using”. Don From: CE WOOD [mailto:wood...@msn.com] Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2013 10:17 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] No emails Well, yes and no. This IS a Legacy problem, because by using a different third party, they could eliminate this long-standing problem, but they must have some vested interest in the third party which they are using. CE From: kurt-kneel...@sbcglobal.net To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com CC: kinhunte...@gmail.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] No emails Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2013 17:23:05 -0600 Hi Pat Several folks responded to your post, but the only one that sent you a copy directly, which is what you need since you're not getting emails from the list server, didn't tell you how to fix. Contact supp...@legacyfamilytree.com and ask them to reset your Legacy Users Group Account. This is an on-going problem with many new subscribers. As I understand it, the problem is not with Legacy itself but with a 3rd party that provides the email list service. The Legacy Support desk is able to fix it for individual cases but has no control over the underlying problem. Kurt -Original Message- From: Mike Fry [mailto:emjay...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2013 12:30 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Cc: kinhunte...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] No emails On 2013/12/08 19:42, Pat Jones wrote: I'm using Windows 8.1 which may be the problem, but - I subscribed and confirmed the subscription yesterday and was expecting a flood of emails this morning but nothing was received. I know I had lots of trouble both subscribing and unsubscribing before for whatever reason but since Legacy has upgraded thought I would probably benefit from the expertise of the mailing list and wanted to join. The flood has become a drought :-) -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg (g) Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Web storage
This morning, there were several emails describing 'Dropbox' and 'Carbonite'. I am wondering if anybody is using 'SkyDrive' ? John. -- John. jfgreg...@shaw.ca Legacy User Group guidelines:http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.aspArchived messages after Nov. 21 2009:http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009:http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.aspFollow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com).To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: Re[2]: [LegacyUG] Shared Events
John and Laurence: Besides family tree software, does GEDCOM update on a regular basis? Is this something GEDCOM would see as a priority? Leo From: laurencestephen...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re[2]: [LegacyUG] Shared Events Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2013 06:09:09 + I think the most active and relevant programs have only TNG needs to catch up. And I'm sure it will. -- Original Message -- From: John B. Lisle leg...@tqsi.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com Sent: 9/12/2013 4:13:05 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Shared Events Leo, This is not a question for Legacy, but a question for the other vendors. Legacy provided a tool that had been much requested by users for many years. As you say, it is a mixed blessing or double edge sword. Is it the inability of to share this function a reason not to be on the forefront of genealogical computing? Over time, more vendors will adopt this functionality just because their users are asking for it or will be asking for it, and it makes sense. Already TNG has said they will implement it before too long. Whether or not you start adopting it now, or not, is your choice. In a couple of years, I predict that most active vendors will have it. john. At 09:26 PM 12/8/2013, lio . wrote: Thanks to everyone for the Shared Events discussion. I was really looking forward to Legacy 8 and using this feature to help speed up the input of my documents. But now from what I've seen it's looking like a mixed blessing. Although I don't see myself creating gedcoms to upload/share my research, who knows what the future will hold. It would be frustrating to do all this work and find out others would not be able to read my work. Apparently RM and Legacy are currently able read each other's Shared Events. Is this something I can assume other software programs and gedcom updates will be able to do in the future? If this is the case, then I won't mind going forward using Legacy 8's Shared Events (I really hope this is the answer). Or is this something that I shouldn't count on? Thanks helping me clarify all the discussions, Leo Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2013 11:38:09 +1000 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Shared Events From: kmthoms...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Ahh - so that is the true benefit of shared events - I had wondered. Thanks for that CG On 7 December 2013 05:27, C.G. Ouimet c.g.oui...@outlook.com wrote: Let’s try this … Before Legacy 8, we had events that could be copied from one individual to another individual or many other individuals. Some people referred to this as “shared†but they are only independent copies in that changes to any of the original or copies are not reflected in any of the others; we must change them all manually. With Legacy 8, we can do the same as above but we have an alternative. We can now take an event from one individual and within it, identify one or more individuals to share it with. Later if we change the event, the change is reflected in all of the individuals sharing that event. OK? snipped C.G. Ouimet Kingston ON snipped Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Webinar Wednesday Rescheduled; 5 suggestions on what to do instead this week
It doesn't happen often, but this week's Webinar Wednesday with Tom Kemp has been rescheduled to Wednesday, February 12, 2014. If you previously registered, don't worry, we've automatically updated your registration for the new date. So, I know the biggest question you have now is *What am I going to do this Wednesday instead?* Here's a few ideas: 1) Register for our 2014 webinars. Although we haven't yet officially announced their availability, all 52 of our 2014 webinars are now open for registration. We've got some amazing new speakers and dozens of brand new topics. We even have our brand new Online Legacy Family Tree user group meetings to attend. Register at www.FamilyTreeWebinars.comhttp://www.familytreewebinars.com/ . 2) Watch one of our past webinarshttp://familytreewebinars.com/archived_webinars.php either for the first time or again for a refresher. We now have 206 hours of entertaining and educational genealogy classes in the webinar archives. Most are in the membership areahttp://legacy.familytreewebinars.com/memberships-c11.php, but many are free, including my recent, Timelines and Chronologies: Secrets of Successhttp://familytreewebinars.com/download.php?webinar_id=182 . 3) Pick up a gift copy of our new Legacy Family Tree 8 software. Watch the What's New in Legacy 8 video herehttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/WhatsNew8.asp. Also available in convenient 3-packs or 5-packshttp://www.legacyfamilytreestore.com/SearchResults.asp?Cat=24 - give Legacy to the entire family this year! 4) Print the new 2014 webinar brochurehttp://familytreewebinars.com/pdf/ftwbrochure-9920.pdf and share it with your local Family History Center or genealogy society. 5) Become a FamilyTreeWebinars.com affiliate - earn a little extra spending money by referring others to become annual or monthly webinar subscribers. Learn more herehttp://legacy.familytreewebinars.com/legacy-family-tree-webinars-affiliate-program-w1.php . Thanks, Geoff Rasmussen Millennia Corporation ge...@legacyfamilytree.com www.LegacyFamilyTree.com http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: Re[2]: [LegacyUG] Shared Events
Leo, The Gedcom Standard has not been updated in over 10 years. Personally, I do not think it will ever happen. john. At 12:42 PM 12/9/2013, lio . wrote: John and Laurence: Besides family tree software, does GEDCOM update on a regular basis? Is this something GEDCOM would see as a priority? Leo From: laurencestephen...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re[2]: [LegacyUG] Shared Events Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2013 06:09:09 + I think the most active and relevant programs have only TNG needs to catch up. And I'm sure it will. -- Original Message -- From: John B. Lisle leg...@tqsi.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com Sent: 9/12/2013 4:13:05 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Shared Events Leo, This is not a question for Legacy, but a question for the other vendors. Legacy provided a tool that had been much requested by users for many years. As you say, it is a mixed blessing or double edge sword. Is it the inability of to share this function a reason not to be on the forefront of genealogical computing? Over time, more vendors will adopt this functionality just because their users are asking for it or will be asking for it, and it makes sense. Already TNG has said they will implement it before too long. Whether or not you start adopting it now, or not, is your choice. In a couple of years, I predict that most active vendors will have it. john. At 09:26 PM 12/8/2013, lio . wrote: Thanks to everyone for the Shared Events discussion. I was really looking forward to Legacy 8 and using this feature to help speed up the input of my documents. But now from what I've seen it's looking like a mixed blessing. Although I don't see myself creating gedcoms to upload/share my research, who knows what the future will hold. It would be frustrating to do all this work and find out others would not be able to read my work. Apparently RM and Legacy are currently able read each other's Shared Events. Is this something I can assume other software programs and gedcom updates will be able to do in the future? If this is the case, then I won't mind going forward using Legacy 8's Shared Events (I really hope this is the answer). Or is this something that I shouldn't count on? Thanks helping me clarify all the discussions, Leo Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2013 11:38:09 +1000 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Shared Events From: kmthoms...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Ahh - so that is the true benefit of shared events - I had wondered. Thanks for that CG On 7 December 2013 05:27, C.G. Ouimet c.g.oui...@outlook.com wrote: Letâs try this dd Before Legacy 8, we had events that could be copied from one individual to another individual or many other individuals. Some people referred to this as âsharedâ but they are only ily independent copies in that changes to any of the original or copies are not reflected in any of the others; we must change them all manually. With Legacy 8, we can do the same as above but we have an alternative. We can now take an event from one individual and within it, identify one or more individuals to share it with. Later if we change the event, the change is reflected in all of the individuals sharing that event. OK? snipped C.G. Ouimet Kingston ON snipped Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook ( http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog ( http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook ( http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog ( http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook ( http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog ( http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe:
RE: [LegacyUG] Unlocking Legacy
Is Geoff's book out yet? --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Unlocking Legacy
Legacy Family Tree - Unlocked has been out several months. You can buy the print or PDF version in our online store. It is *not* a v8 manual but a compilation of the Watch Geoff Live webinars in written form, updated for v8. Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 10:29 AM, grayscot2 graysc...@gmail.com wrote: Is Geoff's book out yet? Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Individual's details on Descendant screen
Right-clicking sometimes works, sometimes doesn't. Is it dependent on which view? On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Kurt Kneeland kurt-kneel...@sbcglobal.netwrote: Looks to me like the bottom display was done away with intentionally as it was redundant with what is and/or can be included in the main display. It appears that the screen shot was updated in the manual, but not the text. I’m also finding that the right-click popup menu is not functioning. Anyone else having a problem with that? *From:* Boyd Miller [mailto:bo...@vodafone.net.nz] *Sent:* Monday, December 09, 2013 12:54 AM *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com *Subject:* [LegacyUG] Individual's details on Descendant screen I understand from Page 18 of the User Guide that on the Descendants screen, *As each name is highlighted, the birth and death information is shown at the bottom of the window along with marriage details*. This worked properly in L7.5 but does not appear to work in L8. The picture on in the manual shows a Descendant screen with an individual highlighted, but there are no details for that person at the bottom of the screen. There is an arrow labelled Birth, marriage, and death information is shown for the highlighted person pointing vaguely to the middle of the Birth Date column - obviously the wrong place. Is this information function available or not, have I inadvertently set something incorrectly, or do we have a bug? Does anyone else have this problem? Boyd -- http://www.avast.com/ This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirushttp://www.avast.com/protection is active. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] sourcing questions
I’ve been trying to figure out the answer to a sourcing question and have not been able to figure out the answer through the SourceWriter templates or through flipping through my copy of Evidence Explained, so I thought I’d ask here and see if someone else knows the answer. When you have a digital image of a vital record, the SW prompts you through the documenting the website source of the image, collection name, yada, yada, yada. You are also prompted to put in the date you accessed the website. So here’s the question: what if you received the image from a friend or family member? The birth certificate image or census image may originally have come from Ancestry or HeritageQuest or maybe even ScotlandsPeople, but YOU are not the person who accessed the website. How then do you cite the digital image of the record if you got it secondhand? As far as I can tell from the book, you’re supposed to source your source (the individual) as well as the real source of the digital image (the website vendor). I’m just not sure how to construct the source citation to show that. And what if you don’t know the source of your source, but you have a census image or a vital record image in front of you? And finally, once I’ve figured out the output format I’m supposed to have, how do I get that result in Legacy? Thanks in advance for the help. cheers, Kirsty Haining Seattle, Washington J Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Individual's details on Descendant screen
I was referring to the Descendent View. The right-click popup menu to add/edit/etc addition info related to the individual you right-click on there. This is discussed on pg 18 of the manual right after the mention of the bottom-view information block that is now gone. The right-click function was there in 7.5 and I see no reason why it would have been eliminated. From: Randy Clark [mailto:ceddaco...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 1:09 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Individual's details on Descendant screen Right-clicking sometimes works, sometimes doesn't. Is it dependent on which view? On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Kurt Kneeland kurt-kneel...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Looks to me like the bottom display was done away with intentionally as it was redundant with what is and/or can be included in the main display. It appears that the screen shot was updated in the manual, but not the text. I’m also finding that the right-click popup menu is not functioning. Anyone else having a problem with that? From: Boyd Miller [mailto:bo...@vodafone.net.nz] Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 12:54 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Individual's details on Descendant screen I understand from Page 18 of the User Guide that on the Descendants screen, As each name is highlighted, the birth and death information is shown at the bottom of the window along with marriage details. This worked properly in L7.5 but does not appear to work in L8. The picture on in the manual shows a Descendant screen with an individual highlighted, but there are no details for that person at the bottom of the screen. There is an arrow labelled Birth, marriage, and death information is shown for the highlighted person pointing vaguely to the middle of the Birth Date column - obviously the wrong place. Is this information function available or not, have I inadvertently set something incorrectly, or do we have a bug? Does anyone else have this problem? Boyd _ http://www.avast.com/ This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus http://www.avast.com/ protection is active. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Web storage
I have used Skydrive for a couple of years with no problems. Mary L On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 10:38 AM, John Gregson jfgreg...@shaw.ca wrote: This morning, there were several emails describing 'Dropbox' and 'Carbonite'. I am wondering if anybody is using 'SkyDrive' ? John. -- John. jfgreg...@shaw.ca Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp -- Mary LeClerc quiltingm...@gmail.com My Blog: http://quiltinginoz.blogspot.com/ Forgiveness is giving up the hope that the past could have been any different.” ~ Oprah Winfrey The desire to create is one of the deepest yearnings of the human soul. No matter our talents, education, backgrounds, or abilities, we each have an inherent wish to create something that did not exist before. Dieter Uchtdorf Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Shared events
Kim, Thanks so much for doing this 'review' http://footstepspast.blogspot.ca/2013/11/importing-rootsmagic-shared-events-into.html These kind of explanations are invaluable to those of use who want to really understand all the various capabilities of the software. Keep up the good work. Jay On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 2:12 PM, Kim kim.mi...@wightman.ca wrote: I wouldn't normally post info about RootsMagic to this group, but since there has been some discussion about shared events between Legacy and RM maybe this might help someone. One of the reasons I started using RM was because using the shared events saved me a huge amount of time. Especially when entering census records for large families. The down side to this was if I wanted to upload my gedcom to Ancestry, RootsWeb or send to a family member (not using RM) they would only get the shared event entry for the primary person. With a census example this would mean that each census shared would not show for most of the people involved. This was obviously a big problem and kept many from using shared events. Last winter a few programmers started to work on a 3rd party utility that would convert shared events into normal events. It has worked out very well and I use this often. I do hope that this feature will be intergrated right into RM and Legacy. Perhaps something similar could be developed for Legacy, maybe as part of LTools? The free RM utility is RMTrix. http://sqlitetoolsforrootsmagic.wikispaces.com/Bundled+Utilities+-+RMtrix I did a tutorial on how to split shared events with it. http://footstepspast.blogspot.ca/2013/08/how-to-split-rootsmagic-shared-facts.html I also tried importing my gedcom from RM into Legacy (free version) the day it came out. I found that the shared events did import into Legacy, but with some minor issues. Possibly this has been fixed since. With the imported shared events the primary person was missing the event note that showed, but all the people who had rolls a note in their shared events had their notes just fine. Screen shots of what I mean. http://footstepspast.blogspot.ca/2013/11/importing-rootsmagic-shared-events-into.html Kim Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Backup files
I am using version 7.5.0.278 I note that when I use the file backup; from "File" I get two files in the backup folder. Main.fdb and Main~Rc3.Rc3 I also note that these files are compressed. -What are the Rc3 files? -Is there any way to turnoff the file compression? John. -- John. jfgreg...@shaw.ca Legacy User Group guidelines:http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.aspArchived messages after Nov. 21 2009:http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009:http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.aspFollow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com).To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] sourcing questions
Think of every fact (or event) that you record for an individual as something that needs to be proven ‘beyond a reasonable doubt’. Your source citations are your effort to build a case for a particular conclusion (fact or event). The quality of the source can make or break your case. It helps (for me, anyway) to remember the reason that you record sources. Your memory is not going to perfectly remember everything, especially as your tree gets bigger. You will find records with information that contradicts or conflicts with other records that you have gathered and you’ll want to figure out which is the most accurate. Sometimes you’ll discover that one paper trail is following someone who is not the person that you thought it was. Your source citations will help you come to a reasonable conclusion. Let’s say that you received an image of a birth certificate from a cousin who attached it to an email to you. The email may have said that she, or a genealogist that she hired, made a copy of the original document on a visit to xyz County Courthouse, sometime during the Summer of 2010. You could create a new Repository with your cousin’s name, say Sarah Rubenstein, recording her address, phone #, website (if she has one), and email address. If she is the source of several facts in my tree, I might create a master source calling it something like ‘Sarah Rubenstein’s research’. I would use that source and record the specifics of the email as they pertain to the birth certificate. In other words put as much as you can in writing, in a consistent way, so that you or others can follow how you came to the conclusion that a certain birth date is correct, for example. Unless that person can see the document themselves, what you or your cousin say is simply hearsay. The idea is to make it easier for that person to find the original document. In that respect, the ‘form’ is less important than the ‘substance’. Where did you get it? What do you know about it? You will have the opportunity to Analyze Source Quality on the Detail Information tab of the Source Citation detail screen. You add source citations on the same screen that you add events or facts to a person (click the paper/pencil icon in the middle of the icon bar below the general person facts or…click on the books icon to edit the Sources assigned to the person. Or…from the View tabMaster Lists dropdown, choose Source… As is usually the case in Windows programs, there are several ways to accomplish the same task. Use whichever is most intuitive to you. BTW, use the Help tab Help Index and begin typing the term that you want help with into the box. I typed sour and had a list of “source” related subjects come up. Don Hanson From: Kirsty M. Haining [mailto:khain...@comcast.net] Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 1:18 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] sourcing questions I’ve been trying to figure out the answer to a sourcing question and have not been able to figure out the answer through the SourceWriter templates or through flipping through my copy of Evidence Explained, so I thought I’d ask here and see if someone else knows the answer. When you have a digital image of a vital record, the SW prompts you through the documenting the website source of the image, collection name, yada, yada, yada. You are also prompted to put in the date you accessed the website. So here’s the question: what if you received the image from a friend or family member? The birth certificate image or census image may originally have come from Ancestry or HeritageQuest or maybe even ScotlandsPeople, but YOU are not the person who accessed the website. How then do you cite the digital image of the record if you got it secondhand? As far as I can tell from the book, you’re supposed to source your source (the individual) as well as the real source of the digital image (the website vendor). I’m just not sure how to construct the source citation to show that. And what if you don’t know the source of your source, but you have a census image or a vital record image in front of you? And finally, once I’ve figured out the output format I’m supposed to have, how do I get that result in Legacy? Thanks in advance for the help. cheers, Kirsty Haining Seattle, Washington J Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Backup files
Those files are not backup files. Main.fdb is a regular family file, the rc3 file is the associated relationships. The compressed backup files have an extension of .zip and it’s those that are compressed. There will be one for your main database, and (if you have set the option) one for your multimedia. Paul Gray From: John Gregson [mailto:jfgreg...@shaw.ca] Sent: December-09-13 2:03 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Backup files I am using version 7.5.0.278 I note that when I use the file backup; from File I get two files in the backup folder. Main.fdb and Main~Rc3.Rc3 I also note that these files are compressed. -What are the Rc3 files? -Is there any way to turnoff the file compression? John. -- John. jfgreg...@shaw.ca _ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3658/6903 - Release Date: 12/09/13 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Shared events
I’ve been playing with Shared Events in the last few days … Good review by Kim … Nice to see a Roots Magic GEDCOM export with Shared Events imports almost perfectly into Legacy 8. Kim mentions issues with Sentence Overides and I agreed until I FINALLY realized the Sentence Overide tab in the event itself should be left untouched; it seems that any change to this prevents event updates to be reflected by those sharing the event. Instead, got to Event Definition in Master Lists. For each Event there is the standard Event Sentence Definition AND AND AND a separate tab for the Shared Event Sentence Definition which by the way can be set for each role in the shared event. C.G. Ouimet Kingston ON From: Jay 1FamilyTree [mailto:1familytree@gmail.com] Sent: December 09, 2013 02:47 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Shared events Kim, Thanks so much for doing this 'review' http://footstepspast.blogspot.ca/2013/11/importing-rootsmagic-shared-events-into.html http://footstepspast.blogspot.ca/2013/11/importing-rootsmagic-shared-events-into.html These kind of explanations are invaluable to those of use who want to really understand all the various capabilities of the software. Keep up the good work. Jay On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 2:12 PM, Kim kim.mi...@wightman.ca wrote: I wouldn't normally post info about RootsMagic to this group, but since there has been some discussion about shared events between Legacy and RM maybe this might help someone. One of the reasons I started using RM was because using the shared events saved me a huge amount of time. Especially when entering census records for large families. The down side to this was if I wanted to upload my gedcom to Ancestry, RootsWeb or send to a family member (not using RM) they would only get the shared event entry for the primary person. With a census example this would mean that each census shared would not show for most of the people involved. This was obviously a big problem and kept many from using shared events. Last winter a few programmers started to work on a 3rd party utility that would convert shared events into normal events. It has worked out very well and I use this often. I do hope that this feature will be intergrated right into RM and Legacy. Perhaps something similar could be developed for Legacy, maybe as part of LTools? The free RM utility is RMTrix. http://sqlitetoolsforrootsmagic.wikispaces.com/Bundled+Utilities+-+RMtrix I did a tutorial on how to split shared events with it. http://footstepspast.blogspot.ca/2013/08/how-to-split-rootsmagic-shared-facts.html I also tried importing my gedcom from RM into Legacy (free version) the day it came out. I found that the shared events did import into Legacy, but with some minor issues. Possibly this has been fixed since. With the imported shared events the primary person was missing the event note that showed, but all the people who had rolls a note in their shared events had their notes just fine. Screen shots of what I mean. http://footstepspast.blogspot.ca/2013/11/importing-rootsmagic-shared-events-into.html Kim Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Backup files
That is what it does. Just this morning, I once again entered allot of profiles into Legacy 7.5. I fund a merge I needed to do, so I did it. There is a prompt to backup, so I click backup and do you know what it doesn't all the work done before the merge is gone. There is no backup there since last night when I closed Legacy. So, I immediately did a Backup off the File menu and sure enough it is there. So, I have learned to backup off the file menu before doing any merges. There must be some setting I am missing, but I don't know where it is. Orinda On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 2:02 PM, John Gregson jfgreg...@shaw.ca wrote: I am using version 7.5.0.278 I note that when I use the file backup; from File I get two files in the backup folder. Main.fdb and Main~Rc3.Rc3 I also note that these files are compressed. -What are the Rc3 files? -Is there any way to turnoff the file compression? John. -- John. jfgreg...@shaw.ca Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] sourcing questions
When you have a digital image of a vital record, the SW prompts you through the documenting the website source of the image, collection name, yada, yada, yada. You are also prompted to put in the date you accessed the website. So here’s the question: what if you received the image from a friend or family member? The birth certificate image or census image may originally have come from Ancestry or HeritageQuest or maybe even ScotlandsPeople, but YOU are not the person who accessed the website. How then do you cite the digital image of the record if you got it secondhand? As far as I can tell from the book, you’re supposed to source your source (the individual) as well as the real source of the digital image (the website vendor). I’m just not sure how to construct the source citation to show that. And what if you don’t know the source of your source, but you have a census image or a vital record image in front of you? I usually add a Comment to the effect that the image was supplied by X. You can add a Source Comment or a Detail Comment, or both, whichever you deem appropriate. And finally, once I’ve figured out the output format I’m supposed to have, how do I get that result in Legacy? You don't need to worry about the format because Legacy does all the formatting for you. If you are using SourceWriter just fill in whatever fields are appropriate (*) and you will see a Preview of the output as you go along. This may also happen with Basic Sourcing but it's been so long since I've used that, I've forgotten! (*) Probably a good idea to remind people again that you do not necessarily need to fill in EVERY field, nor even worry about a field name possibly not describing the data you are entering into that field. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Individual's details on Descendant screen
On 09/12/2013 19:03, Kurt Kneeland wrote: I’m also finding that the right-click popup menu is not functioning. Anyone else having a problem with that? Not I. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Backup files
John I think what you are seeing is the contents of the zipped (compressed) backup file you created. Windows File Explorer treats the compressed backup file as a folder and lets you view the contents, but it is only a single .zip file. There are various associated files that get created depending on which functions you use. Some are temporary, others like the .rc3 (relationships) file are more permanent and therefore get included in the backup. If you want uncompressed backups of your files, you can just use Windows File Manager to copy those files to an alternate directory and/or drive. From: Paul Gray [mailto:graypa...@outlook.com] Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 3:12 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Backup files Those files are not backup files. Main.fdb is a regular family file, the rc3 file is the associated relationships. The compressed backup files have an extension of .zip and it’s those that are compressed. There will be one for your main database, and (if you have set the option) one for your multimedia. Paul Gray From: John Gregson [mailto:jfgreg...@shaw.ca] Sent: December-09-13 2:03 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Backup files I am using version 7.5.0.278 I note that when I use the file backup; from File I get two files in the backup folder. Main.fdb and Main~Rc3.Rc3 I also note that these files are compressed. -What are the Rc3 files? -Is there any way to turnoff the file compression? John. -- John. jfgreg...@shaw.ca _ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3658/6903 - Release Date: 12/09/13 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Shared events
Like you I have been playing with Shared Events but am having trouble with the sentence definition. I have looked at the PDF manual and help but am still stumped as to how to proceed. I have created individual census events (i.e. Census - Canada Census 1916, Census - United States 1880, etc.). I have created various roles in these Events as the need arises, such as wife, child (not son or daughter), father, mother, etc. I would like a sentence something like: Canada Census 1916 shows John Doe(head) residing in [place] with wife (wife) and child(ren) and who ever else is shared When I try to make the sentence it does not pick up the wife but re-enters the head. It does not seem to find the individual roles. How would I construct this to show what I want, including all roles without having to enter every role individually to the definition when I cannot see how many there are (listing 6 children, a father and stepmother - for example). I looked forward to this function, specifically for Census events, but until I can get a handle on this one, I would have to reconsider it for other events. Thanks for you help and kudos to the developers and staff at Legacy. Bernie On 09/12/2013 2:13 PM, C.G. Ouimet wrote: I’ve been playing with Shared Events in the last few days … Good review by Kim … Nice to see a Roots Magic GEDCOM export with Shared Events imports almost perfectly into Legacy 8. Kim mentions issues with Sentence Overides and I agreed until I FINALLY realized the Sentence Overide tab in the event itself should be left untouched; it seems that any change to this prevents event updates to be reflected by those sharing the event. Instead, got to Event Definition in Master Lists. For each Event there is the standard Event Sentence Definition AND AND AND a separate tab for the Shared Event Sentence Definition which by the way can be set for each role in the shared event. C.G. Ouimet Kingston ON -- Bernie H Blog site http://haushornung.weebly.com/ Data site http://www3.telus.net/hornunghouse/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Shared events
Open Legacy Help. Search for “Creating Event Sentences” for help on building event sentences in the Event Master List; including fieldnames for husbands and wives … C.G. Ouimet Kingston ON From: Bernd Hornung [mailto:ber@telus.net] Sent: December 09, 2013 04:50 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Shared events Like you I have been playing with Shared Events but am having trouble with the sentence definition. I have looked at the PDF manual and help but am still stumped as to how to proceed. I have created individual census events (i.e. Census - Canada Census 1916, Census - United States 1880, etc.). I have created various roles in these Events as the need arises, such as wife, child (not son or daughter), father, mother, etc. I would like a sentence something like: Canada Census 1916 shows John Doe(head) residing in [place] with wife (wife) and child(ren) and who ever else is shared When I try to make the sentence it does not pick up the wife but re-enters the head. It does not seem to find the individual roles. How would I construct this to show what I want, including all roles without having to enter every role individually to the definition when I cannot see how many there are (listing 6 children, a father and stepmother - for example). I looked forward to this function, specifically for Census events, but until I can get a handle on this one, I would have to reconsider it for other events. Thanks for you help and kudos to the developers and staff at Legacy. Bernie On 09/12/2013 2:13 PM, C.G. Ouimet wrote: I’ve been playing with Shared Events in the last few days …  Good review by Kim … Nice to see a Roots Magic GEDCOM export with Shared Events imports almost perfectly into Legacy 8.  Kim mentions issues with Sentence Overides and I agreed until I FINALLY realized the Sentence Overide tab in the event itself should be left untouched; it seems that any change to this prevents event updates to be reflected by those sharing the event.  Instead, got to Event Definition in Master Lists. For each Event there is the standard Event Sentence Definition AND AND AND a separate tab for the Shared Event Sentence Definition which by the way can be set for each role in the shared event.     C.G. Ouimet Kingston ON  -- Bernie H Blog site http://haushornung.weebly.com/ Data site http://www3.telus.net/hornunghouse/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Colours (Colors)
FS was warned about that back while the current offering was still in Concept. Clearly, there was no color-deficient person on the test team or the concept team or the QC team. Cheryl Bryan Pratt wrote: I’ve copied this to both groups - Legacy and FS. I do believe in the colour-blind problem quite seriously. In a universal piece of software like Legacy and Family Search, programmers need to give cognizance to this issue. For you non-colourblind it’s straightforward. For us it’s more difficult. We need bold colour differentiations, not wishy-washy fawns, creams, greys, pinks. I’ve changed my colour configurations already on both softwares. Some will scream at my colour mixes but at least I can see the differences. And I believe close to 10% of men (especially) are colour blind. It’s a sex-linked gene if any one is interested, e.g. my maternal grandfather was colour-blind. This just a thought. No criticism on two wonderful programs - now in pretty blues, reds, yellows and blacks!! Happy red Christmas to all. Bryan NZ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] sourcing questions
IOW, source the ultimate source (repository of the image), and comment the immediate source (secondary person who supplied image to you directly). In that case, SourceWriter works just fine. My question about SW in Legacy was BECAUSE there is no template for source from a source. I can do single sources just fine; it’s more complicated when you're crediting two sources in the same citation (which is what my understanding was the proper thing to do... but maybe it's my understanding that was flawed). Thank you for your reply. -Original Message- From: Jenny M Benson [mailto:ge...@cedarbank.me.uk] And what if you don’t know the source of your source, but you have a census image or a vital record image in front of you? I usually add a Comment to the effect that the image was supplied by X. You can add a Source Comment or a Detail Comment, or both, whichever you deem appropriate. And finally, once I’ve figured out the output format I’m supposed to have, how do I get that result in Legacy? You don't need to worry about the format because Legacy does all the formatting for you. If you are using SourceWriter just fill in whatever fields are appropriate (*) and you will see a Preview of the output as you go along. This may also happen with Basic Sourcing but it's been so long since I've used that, I've forgotten! (*) Probably a good idea to remind people again that you do not necessarily need to fill in EVERY field, nor even worry about a field name possibly not describing the data you are entering into that field. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re[4]: [LegacyUG] Shared Events
Gedcom hasn't up graded for many years I don't think it is supported any more. -- Original Message -- From: lio . likeitouts...@hotmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com Sent: 10/12/2013 4:42:18 AM Subject: RE: Re[2]: [LegacyUG] Shared Events John and Laurence: Besides family tree software, does GEDCOM update on a regular basis? Is this something GEDCOM would see as a priority? Leo Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] sourcing questions
Don — Thank you for this thoughtful response. It helps clarify some issues in my mind. It sounds like, in my specific situation, you would advocate sourcing the person who supplied the vital certificate rather than the entity that created or holds those certificates. This is opposite what Jenny was saying she does — in the example you used, Jenny would (if I understand her correctly) source the birth certificate’s issuing agency and then comment that she received the image of the birth certificate from Sarah Rubenstein by email who said she got it from her professional genealogist who visited xyz County Courthouse in the Summer of 2010). The actual style of sourcing, then, seems like one of those stylistic choices that a genealogist will choose and then hopefully stick with consistently (like burial notes versus cemetery event). Your comments on “form” versus “substance” and the purpose being to help another person find that same information are also helpful. I think I can sometimes get bogged down worrying over the “right” way to do something, when what’s most important is that the information is communicated. It seems like every year or two I’m updating the way I handle sources; they become more and more precise. (And I always vow that one of these days I’m going to have to go back and fix the incomplete sourcing I did back when I was first getting started.) I felt confused about what to do earlier today, but now I feel more confident in the choices I’ll end up making for my particular sourcing situations. Thank you for your response. cheers, Kirsty Haining Seattle, WA J From: Don Hanson [mailto:terra...@comcast.net] Sent: Monday, December 9, 2013 1:09 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] sourcing questions Think of every fact (or event) that you record for an individual as something that needs to be proven ‘beyond a reasonable doubt’. Your source citations are your effort to build a case for a particular conclusion (fact or event). The quality of the source can make or break your case. It helps (for me, anyway) to remember the reason that you record sources. Your memory is not going to perfectly remember everything, especially as your tree gets bigger. You will find records with information that contradicts or conflicts with other records that you have gathered and you’ll want to figure out which is the most accurate. Sometimes you’ll discover that one paper trail is following someone who is not the person that you thought it was. Your source citations will help you come to a reasonable conclusion. Let’s say that you received an image of a birth certificate from a cousin who attached it to an email to you. The email may have said that she, or a genealogist that she hired, made a copy of the original document on a visit to xyz County Courthouse, sometime during the Summer of 2010. You could create a new Repository with your cousin’s name, say Sarah Rubenstein, recording her address, phone #, website (if she has one), and email address. If she is the source of several facts in my tree, I might create a master source calling it something like ‘Sarah Rubenstein’s research’. I would use that source and record the specifics of the email as they pertain to the birth certificate. In other words put as much as you can in writing, in a consistent way, so that you or others can follow how you came to the conclusion that a certain birth date is correct, for example. Unless that person can see the document themselves, what you or your cousin say is simply hearsay. The idea is to make it easier for that person to find the original document. In that respect, the ‘form’ is less important than the ‘substance’. Where did you get it? What do you know about it? You will have the opportunity to Analyze Source Quality on the Detail Information tab of the Source Citation detail screen. You add source citations on the same screen that you add events or facts to a person (click the paper/pencil icon in the middle of the icon bar below the general person facts or…click on the books icon to edit the Sources assigned to the person. Or…from the View tabMaster Lists dropdown, choose Source… As is usually the case in Windows programs, there are several ways to accomplish the same task. Use whichever is most intuitive to you. BTW, use the Help tab Help Index and begin typing the term that you want help with into the box. I typed sour and had a list of “source” related subjects come up. Don Hanson From: Kirsty M. Haining [mailto:khain...@comcast.net] Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 1:18 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] sourcing questions I’ve been trying to figure out the answer to a sourcing question and have not been able to figure out the answer through the SourceWriter templates or through flipping through my copy of Evidence Explained, so I thought I’d ask here and see if someone
RE: [LegacyUG] sourcing questions
I think you'll find that the proper thing to do depends upon who you ask...and when you ask. grin I just Googled 'source citatations for genealogy' and in the long list of results, there is little agreement other than to quote only what you can see. Don Hanson -Original Message- From: Kirsty M. Haining [mailto:khain...@comcast.net] Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 4:45 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] sourcing questions IOW, source the ultimate source (repository of the image), and comment the immediate source (secondary person who supplied image to you directly). In that case, SourceWriter works just fine. My question about SW in Legacy was BECAUSE there is no template for source from a source. I can do single sources just fine; it’s more complicated when you're crediting two sources in the same citation (which is what my understanding was the proper thing to do... but maybe it's my understanding that was flawed). Thank you for your reply. -Original Message- From: Jenny M Benson [mailto:ge...@cedarbank.me.uk] And what if you don’t know the source of your source, but you have a census image or a vital record image in front of you? I usually add a Comment to the effect that the image was supplied by X. You can add a Source Comment or a Detail Comment, or both, whichever you deem appropriate. And finally, once I’ve figured out the output format I’m supposed to have, how do I get that result in Legacy? You don't need to worry about the format because Legacy does all the formatting for you. If you are using SourceWriter just fill in whatever fields are appropriate (*) and you will see a Preview of the output as you go along. This may also happen with Basic Sourcing but it's been so long since I've used that, I've forgotten! (*) Probably a good idea to remind people again that you do not necessarily need to fill in EVERY field, nor even worry about a field name possibly not describing the data you are entering into that field. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Dropbox
Yes, an interesting article, thanks, John On 9 December 2013 20:18, John B. Lisle leg...@tqsi.com wrote: Elizabeth et al, Here is a link to an interesting article from the Eastman Blog that touches on the subject of backups that you might find interesting. http://blog.eogn.com/eastmans_online_genealogy/2013/12/how-to-keep-digital-documents-safe-forever.html john. At 05:41 AM 12/9/2013, Elizabeth Hatchell wrote: Thanks Graham. Yes, only dabbling with Dropbox at the moment so will move all Legacy there I think. E. On 9 December 2013 08:59, Graham Love love-fam...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: It's no different to keeping the files locally - I just point Legacy to the Dropbox location so yes, very simple. I keep backups in a different location locally. I am in the process of transferring all media files to Dropbox as well - much easier to share. If you have space on Dropbox I'd say use it. G Sent from my iPad On 8 Dec 2013, at 14:19, Elizabeth Hatchell elizab...@hatchells.co.uk wrote: Graham - if you keep your working file on Dropbox, is it quite simple to do? Do you save a backup there every time you close Legacy or is your whole file system on Dropbox?  I use Dropbox to share files and photos with friends but not as a regular backup facility. Do you recommend this? On 8 December 2013 08:37, Graham Love love-fam...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: I keep my working file there. Sent from my iPad On 7 Dec 2013, at 20:36, Bruce Jones juicebo...@gmail.com wrote: How are users implementing Dropbox with Legacy 8? Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] sourcing questions
This may sound silly, but I have been following this thread and decided to ask to see what I get for answers. How do you source (using sourcewriter) something from a Kindle book or other ebook. Often, the publication information seems to be missing. Rick -Original Message- From: Don Hanson Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 5:08 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] sourcing questions I think you'll find that the proper thing to do depends upon who you ask...and when you ask. grin I just Googled 'source citatations for genealogy' and in the long list of results, there is little agreement other than to quote only what you can see. Don Hanson -Original Message- From: Kirsty M. Haining [mailto:khain...@comcast.net] Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 4:45 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] sourcing questions IOW, source the ultimate source (repository of the image), and comment the immediate source (secondary person who supplied image to you directly). In that case, SourceWriter works just fine. My question about SW in Legacy was BECAUSE there is no template for source from a source. I can do single sources just fine; it’s more complicated when you're crediting two sources in the same citation (which is what my understanding was the proper thing to do... but maybe it's my understanding that was flawed). Thank you for your reply. -Original Message- From: Jenny M Benson [mailto:ge...@cedarbank.me.uk] And what if you don’t know the source of your source, but you have a census image or a vital record image in front of you? I usually add a Comment to the effect that the image was supplied by X. You can add a Source Comment or a Detail Comment, or both, whichever you deem appropriate. And finally, once I’ve figured out the output format I’m supposed to have, how do I get that result in Legacy? You don't need to worry about the format because Legacy does all the formatting for you. If you are using SourceWriter just fill in whatever fields are appropriate (*) and you will see a Preview of the output as you go along. This may also happen with Basic Sourcing but it's been so long since I've used that, I've forgotten! (*) Probably a good idea to remind people again that you do not necessarily need to fill in EVERY field, nor even worry about a field name possibly not describing the data you are entering into that field. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] sourcing questions
I think the only thing challenging about eBooks is that the page number would be a little difficult to determine. They are still published entities. Just use SourceWriter for book, and choose the appropriate source — for an eBook, I'd choose CD/DVD and put eBook in the format field (probably modified by either epub or Kindle or PDF). Since page number depends on your font choice, I'd just be sure to cite the chapter and say something like p 5 ( 1/4 through chapter in a medium font) to cite a particular page. At least with Kindle format you have section locations that you can cite. -Original Message- From: Rick [mailto:africkkeel...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, December 9, 2013 3:21 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] sourcing questions This may sound silly, but I have been following this thread and decided to ask to see what I get for answers. How do you source (using sourcewriter) something from a Kindle book or other ebook. Often, the publication information seems to be missing. Rick Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Media management within Legacy
For those of you who have scads of media files attached within Legacy and have created wonderful reports and charts and websites, I have a few questions about how you manage your media files. Not so much on your hard disk, but more within Legacy itself. (Since moving to Legacy 8 I've been taking some time to get re-acquainted with some of the features. Picture Center wasn't something I paid much attention to previously, but now I thought I'd make a more concerted effort to attach my thousands of media files to their appropriate persons.) So here are my questions: (1) When you have an image that relates to more than one event, do you place the image in multiple places? I.e., for a birth that also discusses the baptism... both places? Or only one? Or one in birth, and others in the sourcing details for both events? If you have the same photo in more than one event, and then have photos turned on in your report option, do you like the results you get? (2) Do you ever have multiple copies of an image attached to a person for any reason, and if so, why? Also, does it affect the way your reports and websites get generated? (3) Are there any pros and cons to attaching group photos to more than one individual? (4) Is there anything about the way you've attached media files in Legacy that you'd wish you'd done differently? and, finally, (5) Is there any advice you would give to someone who's just starting out with attaching media? Thanks, all! Kirsty Haining Seattle, Washington :-) Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re[4]: [LegacyUG] Shared Events
Laurence et al, What do you mean by not supported? If you mean that it has not been updated with an official update, you are correct. But at least two attempts have been made, with one attempt happening now. The issue is that now there are stronger, better financed vendors with vested interests in competing data models. That, with the wealth of existing Gedcom files, is going to make it hard to get an agreement on an updated standard plus any acceptance by the user community. If you think that existing Gedcom files are hard to read, the proposals on the table will require most folks to have a Ph.D. in Computer Science to understand the content. Forget trying to edit the files! john. At 06:04 PM 12/9/2013, Laurence E Stephenson wrote: Gedcom hasn't up graded for many years I don't think it is supported any more. -- Original Message -- From: lio . likeitouts...@hotmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com Sent: 10/12/2013 4:42:18 AM Subject: RE: Re[2]: [LegacyUG] Shared Events John and Laurence: Besides family tree software, does GEDCOM update on a regular basis? Is this something GEDCOM would see as a priority? Leo Legacy User Group guidelines:http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.aspArchived messages after Nov. 21 2009:http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009:http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.aspFollow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com).To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] sourcing questions
Great suggestion. I never thought about using the CD/DVD choice. Really helpful. Thanks. Rick -Original Message- From: Kirsty M. Haining Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 6:28 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] sourcing questions I think the only thing challenging about eBooks is that the page number would be a little difficult to determine. They are still published entities. Just use SourceWriter for book, and choose the appropriate source — for an eBook, I'd choose CD/DVD and put eBook in the format field (probably modified by either epub or Kindle or PDF). Since page number depends on your font choice, I'd just be sure to cite the chapter and say something like p 5 ( 1/4 through chapter in a medium font) to cite a particular page. At least with Kindle format you have section locations that you can cite. -Original Message- From: Rick [mailto:africkkeel...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, December 9, 2013 3:21 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] sourcing questions This may sound silly, but I have been following this thread and decided to ask to see what I get for answers. How do you source (using sourcewriter) something from a Kindle book or other ebook. Often, the publication information seems to be missing. Rick Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] keyboard shortcuts again
I have read the thread and must add that the removal of the keyboard shortcuts has killed my desire to buy the new version. I had it in my cart, along with all the new CDs, but backed off when I tried the free version and experienced this loss. I use keyboard shortcuts all the time and would encourage Legacy to add them back, whether the same or different. I am a genealogy teacher and have always encouraged my students to buy Legacy. I can't count how many have done so. I cannot endorse the new version. We all know that the Office ribbon has two- and three-letter keyboard shortcuts. Please do the same for Legacy power users! A ribbon is not modern if it has the look but not the features. Hoping for an update, Dee Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Dropbox
Would someone who uses Dropbox please post a simple, step by step explanation of just how to automatically save our backups to Dropbox? Please include every possible step. Thanks. Tom On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 6:11 PM, Elizabeth Hatchell elizab...@hatchells.co.uk wrote: Yes, an interesting article, thanks, John On 9 December 2013 20:18, John B. Lisle leg...@tqsi.com wrote: Elizabeth et al, Here is a link to an interesting article from the Eastman Blog that touches on the subject of backups that you might find interesting. http://blog.eogn.com/eastmans_online_genealogy/2013/12/how-to-keep-digital-documents-safe-forever.html john. At 05:41 AM 12/9/2013, Elizabeth Hatchell wrote: Thanks Graham. Yes, only dabbling with Dropbox at the moment so will move all Legacy there I think. E. On 9 December 2013 08:59, Graham Love love-fam...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: It's no different to keeping the files locally - I just point Legacy to the Dropbox location so yes, very simple. I keep backups in a different location locally. I am in the process of transferring all media files to Dropbox as well - much easier to share. If you have space on Dropbox I'd say use it. G Sent from my iPad On 8 Dec 2013, at 14:19, Elizabeth Hatchell elizab...@hatchells.co.uk wrote: Graham - if you keep your working file on Dropbox, is it quite simple to do? Do you save a backup there every time you close Legacy or is your whole file system on Dropbox?  I use Dropbox to share files and photos with friends but not as a regular backup facility. Do you recommend this? On 8 December 2013 08:37, Graham Love love-fam...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: I keep my working file there. Sent from my iPad On 7 Dec 2013, at 20:36, Bruce Jones juicebo...@gmail.com wrote: How are users implementing Dropbox with Legacy 8? Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Update or Wait
I'm waiting partially to let the bugs get worked out and partially because I am very busy and want to be able to have time to explore enjoy. I have no urgent data entry in my queue, and the one thing I wanted has not been advertised to be in v8, so... ;) --Paula in Texas Researching: Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn Sanford Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams From: John Gregson jfgreg...@shaw.ca To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Friday, December 6, 2013 3:03 PM Subject: [LegacyUG] Update or Wait I have Legacy 7.5.0.278; on a Win 7 computer. I have been following the traffic on the List, and I get the feeling that perhaps I should wait; perhaps for 8.1 to come out before I upgrade. The traffic on the List, for the most part, seems to come from users who are very knowledgeable with computers; but I am not one such. Any comments? I do not want to get into a situation that is beyond my knowledge to fix. John. -- John. jfgreg...@shaw.ca Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] v7 free two questions
Q1 - I don't know. Q2 - Of course you can untag individuals one at a time. In Family View, just click on the individual's tag number to unhighlight it when you are finished processing that person. If the # tag you want isn't showing, right click on one of them and click on tags to show to get the one you want to show. Are you also using the right and left arrows at the bottom to move through the tagged list? You can change which tag # is showing there, too, with a right click. And though I haven't used it since last year, there might be some tricks in the Search Census List tab. --Paula in Texas Researching: Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn Sanford Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams From: singhals singh...@erols.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2013 12:15 PM Subject: [LegacyUG] v7 free two questions Yes, yes, I know I'm so far behind the curve it's scary, but since you've all solved all the old problems, one of you must remember how to do these things. Q 1: IS there an easy way to find and mark people who have more than one line of descent from an ancestor? I know one line has some /serious/ pedigree-collapse, but I don't remember enough details to do this manually. Q 2: CAN individuals be untagged one-at-a-time? I'm trying to work my way down an unnecessarily (imo) long list of people for whom I still need the 1940 census data. I'd like to be able to UNtag each one I find as I find it. Cheryl Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] V8 Family View
Wow, wish they had asked us about the ribbon - that was my least favorite thing when MS Office implemented it. Takes up too much real estate. Hoping there is a way to turn it off in Legacy. --Paula in Texas Researching: Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn Sanford Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams From: Paul Gray graypa...@outlook.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 8:27 PM Subject: [LegacyUG] V8 Family View Hi, I'm struggling to configure Family View to give me the same 'large fonts' that I was able to get in V7. I am using the same settings in both V7 and V8. In Screen Fonts, Data is set Verdana 10 pt, Labels to Arial 10 pt, “stretch fonts when resizing is checked”, and min font size is 10, max font size 99. The names, dates, and location data displayed in Family View are significantly smaller in V8, I estimate 2-3 pts. Some reasons: 1. The new ribbon takes up more space than the old toolbar. snip Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Media management within Legacy
A couple of tips (or more ;-)) Decide where you want to keep the media you attach to Legacy and set this as your Default Media Folder - Options 6.2. If you decide to use a number of sub-folders, set the parent folder to the Default Media Folder If you use the Picture Centre, you need to move or copy your media to your Default folder(s) before you start attaching. If you use the Media Gallery for each person, you'll be asked when attaching if you want to copy the media to the Default folder (or on the Advanced tab - to another folder of your choice - eg one of the sub-folders). The Picture Centre remembers, at least in the short term, the caption etc you add to the photo. If you want to attach the same photo to a number of different people with the Media Gallery you can copy and then paste. This also copys and pastes the caption etc. The Media Galleries are easier to use. The Picture Centre is quicker if you are organised and have a lot of pics you want to attach in the one session. Note that it only handles Pictures and not other media types. Re attaching a picture more than once to the same person - I wouldn't. And I'd hesitate to add it more than once to a nuclear family if it's the only pic for an event and therefore the preferred pic which will be included in reports - awfully repetitive. Last tip - Legacy doesn't need large archive sized pics - I started off with screen-sized copies of my archived pics so they'd look good in a slider show - see View - Scrapbook if you don't know this feature of Legacy. The problem is that the screen now has a lot more pixels than it used to so I'm now adding pics a little larger but I haven't yet gone beyond 1024 pixels wide and probably won't. The file size gets too large for them all to be saved/backed up easily. I keep my attached media in Dropbox along with my Legacy backup files. I don't backup the media through the Legacy backup as its already backed up in Dropbox (and ontp external drives when I backup my computer). Have Fun, Cathy At 09:27 AM 10/12/2013, you wrote: For those of you who have scads of media files attached within Legacy and have created wonderful reports and charts and websites, I have a few questions about how you manage your media files. Not so much on your hard disk, but more within Legacy itself. (Since moving to Legacy 8 I've been taking some time to get re-acquainted with some of the features. Picture Center wasn't something I paid much attention to previously, but now I thought I'd make a more concerted effort to attach my thousands of media files to their appropriate persons.) So here are my questions: (1) When you have an image that relates to more than one event, do you place the image in multiple places? I.e., for a birth that also discusses the baptism... both places? Or only one? Or one in birth, and others in the sourcing details for both events? If you have the same photo in more than one event, and then have photos turned on in your report option, do you like the results you get? (2) Do you ever have multiple copies of an image attached to a person for any reason, and if so, why? Also, does it affect the way your reports and websites get generated? (3) Are there any pros and cons to attaching group photos to more than one individual? (4) Is there anything about the way you've attached media files in Legacy that you'd wish you'd done differently? and, finally, (5) Is there any advice you would give to someone who's just starting out with attaching media? Thanks, all! Kirsty Haining Seattle, Washington :-) Legacy User Group guidelines:http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.aspArchived messages after Nov. 21 2009:http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009:http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.aspFollow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com).To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] keyboard shortcuts again
Not all keyboard shortcuts are gone. The programmer told us We had to abandon all the one- and two-letter commands because we couldn't trap those keys anymore due to the ribbon control. All shortcuts are now either F-keys or Ctrl- or Alt-keys. Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 8:52 PM, Dee Whiting deema...@gmail.com wrote: I have read the thread and must add that the removal of the keyboard shortcuts has killed my desire to buy the new version. I had it in my cart, along with all the new CDs, but backed off when I tried the free version and experienced this loss. I use keyboard shortcuts all the time and would encourage Legacy to add them back, whether the same or different. I am a genealogy teacher and have always encouraged my students to buy Legacy. I can’t count how many have done so. I cannot endorse the new version. We all know that the Office ribbon has two- and three-letter keyboard shortcuts. Please do the same for Legacy power users! A ribbon is not modern if it has the look but not the features. Hoping for an update, Dee Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] V8 Family View
To minimize the ribbon during the session click on the arrow just to the left of the Design button in the upper right corner. For the setting to be remembered, go to Options Customize General Settings 1.4 Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 9:31 PM, Paula Ryburn paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Wow, wish they had asked us about the ribbon - that was my least favorite thing when MS Office implemented it. Takes up too much real estate. Hoping there is a way to turn it off in Legacy. --Paula in Texas Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Transfer of Legacy Data/Multimedia to New Computer
Hi Todd, Legacy 8 makes it much easier to transfer from one computer to another but you're doing it with 7.5 If you want to keep the data for the Picture Centre you have to preserve the piclist.dbm files in each of your media folders. The data's not a problem. Put it where you want (or restore the backups) and then open with Legacy. The media requires more handling to adjust the links. When you have the media where you want it, you'll find that it isn't showing because of the different path. Take a look at View Master Lists Media Folders and see where Legacy expects to find the media Then use Search and Replace on Lists - Media Folders to change the beginning of the path from the old location to the new one. Then in Options - Customise - Locations tab - Test all multimedia paths - just to make sure it's found everything. This can be done in Legacy 8 as well but it's best to use it to change the beginning of the path to [Default Media Folder]\ Then when you change computer you just go to Option 6.2 and set the Default Media Folder and you're done. Hope that's clear, Cathy At 12:37 PM 9/12/2013, you wrote: I want to transfer my Legacy family file from my old computer (running XP) to my new computer (running Windows 7.) Legacy 7.5 Deluxe (build 7.5.0.278) is installed on the XP computer and I have now installed Legacy Deluxe (same version and build) on the Win 7 computer. I have some questions about the effect of differing directory paths on these two computers and about how to include the Picture Center information in the transfer of the multimedia files (e.g., picture captions and dates in the entered in the Picture List Tab.)?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office / The two computers are networked together on a LAN with file sharing enabled, so file transfers between the two is easy and straightforward. The directory structure for the Legacy data files and multimedia files will be identical for the two computers, but the absolute paths to them will be different at the front end. For the data files, the paths are: XP computer: C:\Documents and Settings\(username-on-XP)\My Documents\Legacy-7\Data\, Win 7 Computer: C:\Users\(username-on-Win7)\Documents\ Legacy-7\Data\, where Username-on-XP and Username-on-Win7 are different. For multimedia files, an example for photos of people is XP computer: C:\Documents and Settings\(username-on-XP)\My Documents\Legacy-7\Media\Photos\People\, Win 7 computer: C:\Users\(username-on-Win7)\Documents\ Legacy-7\Media\Photos\People\. I think I understand how to transfer the data files from old to new computer (backup the data files on the XP computer, copy the resultant zipped file to the Data directory on the Win 7 computer, and then restore it from there on that computer.) However, I am uncertain about how to transfer the associated multimedia files in such a way as to preserve/include the information (e.g., captions and dates) that appears in the Picture List Tab of the Picture Center (i.e., the PicList.dbm files that are located in each of the multimedia folders - in my case, there are a total of 98 PicList.dbm files corresponding to different groups/directories of multimedia files.) So my questions, restated here, are: -- Are the differing path front ends a complication in the transfer of the data and multimedia files? -- How can I ensure that the Picture Center (Picture List Tab) information gets included in the transfer? Any help will be appreciated! Todd . Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Dropbox
When you go to run the backup, you first get the Customise Backup window. You specify where the backup file is kept and what it will be called at this point. Look for the large button Select Name and Location for Data Backup and click on it. If you need more help beyond that, let us know. :-) Kind Regards, Wendy Thomas Jay Kemp said the following on 10/12/2013 6:18 p.m.: Would someone who uses Dropbox please post a simple, step by step explanation of just how to automatically save our backups to Dropbox? Please include every possible step. Thanks. Tom Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Backup files
Are you saying that it is backing up the new work into the older zip file? I was viewing it in Windows File Manager. I made a new file and put restored that new file to it. Nothing was there except the same file missing my work. I am learning to back up about everytime I think of it. Or after inputting awhile. On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 2:33 PM, Kurt Kneeland kurt-kneel...@sbcglobal.netwrote: John I think what you are seeing is the contents of the zipped (compressed) backup file you created. Windows File Explorer treats the compressed backup file as a folder and lets you view the contents, but it is only a single .zip file. There are various associated files that get created depending on which functions you use. Some are temporary, others like the .rc3 (relationships) file are more permanent and therefore get included in the backup. If you want uncompressed backups of your files, you can just use Windows File Manager to copy those files to an alternate directory and/or drive. *From:* Paul Gray [mailto:graypa...@outlook.com] *Sent:* Monday, December 09, 2013 3:12 PM *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com *Subject:* RE: [LegacyUG] Backup files Those files are not backup files. Main.fdb is a regular family file, the rc3 file is the associated relationships. The compressed backup files have an extension of .zip and it’s those that are compressed. There will be one for your main database, and (if you have set the option) one for your multimedia. Paul Gray *From:* John Gregson [mailto:jfgreg...@shaw.ca jfgreg...@shaw.ca] *Sent:* December-09-13 2:03 PM *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com *Subject:* [LegacyUG] Backup files I am using version 7.5.0.278 I note that when I use the file backup; from File I get two files in the backup folder. Main.fdb and Main~Rc3.Rc3 I also note that these files are compressed. -What are the Rc3 files? -Is there any way to turnoff the file compression? John. -- John. jfgreg...@shaw.ca -- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3658/6903 - Release Date: 12/09/13 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] keyboard shortcuts again
Perhaps a list or table could be supplied showing all of these existing shortcuts? What is supplied in the Help is very short. Wendy Sherry/Support said the following on 10/12/2013 6:40 p.m.: Not all keyboard shortcuts are gone. The programmer told us We had to abandon all the one- and two-letter commands because we couldn't trap those keys anymore due to the ribbon control. All shortcuts are now either F-keys or Ctrl- or Alt-keys. Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 8:52 PM, Dee Whiting deema...@gmail.com wrote: I have read the thread and must add that the removal of the keyboard shortcuts has killed my desire to buy the new version. I had it in my cart, along with all the new CDs, but backed off when I tried the free version and experienced this loss. I use keyboard shortcuts all the time and would encourage Legacy to add them back, whether the same or different. I am a genealogy teacher and have always encouraged my students to buy Legacy. I can’t count how many have done so. I cannot endorse the new version. We all know that the Office ribbon has two- and three-letter keyboard shortcuts. Please do the same for Legacy power users! A ribbon is not modern if it has the look but not the features. Hoping for an update, Dee Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] keyboard shortcuts again
Even better, a list that shows OLD SHORTCUT and NEW SHORTCUT (with n/a in the NEW SHORTCUT column for ones that no longer work) and what they do. This should actually also be included in the HELP so it is available for us long-term. I'm sure there will be some old non-working shortcuts that I will stumble upon weeks or months from now that I wonder why isn't this working. Having the old and new (and gone) all included in the list would allow me to explain the non-functioning shortcut (and would avoid me thinking I was going crazy!) Thanks, Bob On 12/10/2013 01:20, Wendy Howard wrote: Perhaps a list or table could be supplied showing all of these existing shortcuts? What is supplied in the Help is very short. Wendy Sherry/Support said the following on 10/12/2013 6:40 p.m.: Not all keyboard shortcuts are gone. The programmer told us We had to abandon all the one- and two-letter commands because we couldn't trap those keys anymore due to the ribbon control. All shortcuts are now either F-keys or Ctrl- or Alt-keys. Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 8:52 PM, Dee Whitingdeema...@gmail.com wrote: I have read the thread and must add that the removal of the keyboard shortcuts has killed my desire to buy the new version. I had it in my cart, along with all the new CDs, but backed off when I tried the free version and experienced this loss. I use keyboard shortcuts all the time and would encourage Legacy to add them back, whether the same or different. I am a genealogy teacher and have always encouraged my students to buy Legacy. I can’t count how many have done so. I cannot endorse the new version. We all know that the Office ribbon has two- and three-letter keyboard shortcuts. Please do the same for Legacy power users! A ribbon is not modern if it has the look but not the features. Hoping for an update, Dee Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Individual's details on Descendant screen
The right click menu is there for me on Descendant View. Descendant View isn't a view I've used much but with the loss of the mouseover pop-up information boxes on Family View I'm trialling setting Descendant View to show just 3 generations so with customised columns I can get a lot of information on screen to ponder and see gaps in information as I did with the pop-ups. Cathy At 03:27 AM 10/12/2013, you wrote: I was referring to the Descendent View. The right-click popup menu to add/edit/etc addition info related to the individual you right-click on there. This is discussed on pg 18 of the manual right after the mention of the bottom-view information block that is now gone. The right-click function was there in 7.5 and I see no reason why it would have been eliminated. From: Randy Clark [mailto:ceddaco...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 1:09 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Individual's details on Descendant screen Right-clicking sometimes works, sometimes doesn't. Is it dependent on which view? On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Kurt Kneeland mailto:kurt-kneel...@sbcglobal.netkurt-kneel...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Looks to me like the bottom display was done away with intentionally as it was redundant with what is and/or can be included in the main display. It appears that the screen shot was updated in the manual, but not the text. Iâm also finding that the right-click popup menu is not functioning. Anyone else having a problem with that? From: Boyd Miller [mailto:bo...@vodafone.net.nz] Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 12:54 AM To: mailto:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.comLegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Individual's details on Descendant screen I understand from Page 18 of the User Guide that on the Descendants screen, As each name is highlighted, the birth and death information is shown at the bottom of the window along with marriage details. This worked properly in L7.5 but does not appear to work in L8. The picture on in the manual shows a Descendant screen with an individual highlighted, but there are no details for that person at the bottom of the screen. There is an arrow labelled Birth, marriage, and death information is shown for the highlighted person pointing vaguely to the middle of the Birth Date column - obviously the wrong place. Is this information function available or not, have I inadvertently set something incorrectly, or do we have a bug? Does anyone else have this problem? Boyd . Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
