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Re: [LegacyUG] Families

2016-01-23 Thread Sherry/Support

Can we please limit the discussions to Legacy and Legacy Add-on
Programs, the purpose of this list??

Legacy works well with Families 2.0 for Android and iOS devices and
GedStar Pro and Family Bee are a competitors.

Thanks!


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 4:20 AM, Ed Ladendorf  wrote:
> GedStar Pro has recently become free of charge after being a program to
> purchase for quite a while. I just downloaded it, and haven't used it enough
> to pass along any review on it. But it looks promising. It seems to offer
> much more than some others. Do a google search for GedStar Pro, and you will
> be able to see screenshots to help you decide if it's worth trying. The
> price is right. Maybe some others can offer their opinions on it.
>
>
> On Saturday, January 23, 2016 1:36 AM, William Boswell 
> wrote:
>
>
> There doesn't seem to be a trial version for Family Bee.  You have to pay
> the $10 to try it out.  Not good in my opinion since there's some complaints
> about importing GEDCOMs.
>
> Bill Boswell




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Re: [LegacyUG] Looking in Temporary Interfiles

2016-01-23 Thread Ed Ladendorf

Is the file in Legacy/Data now? If not, it might help to put it there. Then 
after you open it from there the first time, the next time it should open 
properly. This is just a guess, so I might be wrong. 

On Saturday, January 23, 2016 12:46 PM, Gene Young  wrote:

 I am using V8 and don't remember the exact steps but if you use the help file 
and search for default start file (or variations on this phrase) you should 
find what you need to set the default file to open when Legacy starts.

On 1/23/2016 12:21 PM, Rita Lynn McKale wrote:
> Hi
>
> I can’t figure this out.  After reformatting my computer I installed Legacy 
> 7.5 from the website.  I have several family files that I had backed up and 
> saved to an external hard drive.  I restored those files and then backed them 
> up.  Now when I go to File, Open Family File, Legacy is looking in “Temporary 
> Internet Files.  I can direct it to my C, Legacy, Data file but the next time 
> I want to open a family file it is looking in the Temporary Internet File 
> again.  What did I do wrong?  How can I fix, or do I need to delete 
> everything and start over again?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Briannasnana
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Status of TMG importer

2016-01-23 Thread Steve Hayes

On 23 Jan 2016 at 12:25, Jamie Poindexter wrote:

> Paul is correct.  Your desktop and laptops using Dropbox have a folder
> that is called Dropbox.  Anything you save there is synchronized to the
> cloud Dropbox server.  Anything synced  to the cloud server from one
> computer is also synced to your other devices.  If you are offline in a
> library, you have access to your Legacy files from the Dropbox folder on your
> laptop.  The next time you are online with that laptop, Dropbox will sync your
> changes in your local folder with the cloud server, and likewise, with your
> other devices.
>
> The key is to make sure that no one, you or your wife, access that
> Legacy file until the changes you made while offline are synced with the
> cloud.  If she were to make changes online at home while you are making
> changes offline, when you get back online, your updates may overwrite hers, or
> worse, the whole database get corrupted.

Of course. That's why I said one should only use it on one computer at a
time, otherwise you can get "conflicting copies".

The great advantage I see is that you are working with a local file, but with
cloud backup and transfer.

There is also a special Legacy multiuser thign, but I have not used that.


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Re: [LegacyUG] Status of TMG importer

2016-01-23 Thread Steve Hayes

On 23 Jan 2016 at 8:43, Paul Gray wrote:

> One thing to note here. Using Dropbox, or other similar services, is NOT
> working and storing for data file in the cloud. You are only storing a COPY of
> your file on Dropbox. Legacy, and all desktop programs that I am aware of,
> work with a local copy of your data.

Of course.

That's what makes Dropbox so useful.

I don't think Legacy would work very efficiently (or at all) with data files
stored only on a remote server. But with Dropbox your data is backed up
remotely as soon as you sync it.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Looking in Temporary Interfiles

2016-01-23 Thread Gene Young

Jenny,

That works for V8 but Rita is using V7.5, an entirely different animal.


On 1/23/2016 2:44 PM, Jenny M Benson wrote:
> On 23/01/2016 17:21, Rita Lynn McKale wrote:
>> I can’t figure this out.  After reformatting my computer I installed
>> Legacy 7.5 from the website.  I have several family files that I had
>> backed up and saved to an external hard drive.  I restored those files
>> and then backed them up.  Now when I go to File, Open Family File,
>> Legacy is looking in “Temporary Internet Files.  I can direct it to my
>> C, Legacy, Data file but the next time I want to open a family file it
>> is looking in the Temporary Internet File again.  What did I do wrong?
>> How can I fix, or do I need to delete everything and start over again?
>
> Go to Options>Customise>6.Locations and enter the correct location for
> your family files in the first box.
>


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[LegacyUG] Looking in Temporary Interfiles

2016-01-23 Thread Rita Lynn McKale

Hi



I can't figure this out.  After reformatting my computer I installed Legacy
7.5 from the website.  I have several family files that I had backed up and
saved to an external hard drive.  I restored those files and then backed
them up.  Now when I go to File, Open Family File, Legacy is looking in
"Temporary Internet Files.  I can direct it to my C, Legacy, Data file but
the next time I want to open a family file it is looking in the Temporary
Internet File again.  What did I do wrong?  How can I fix, or do I need to
delete everything and start over again?



Thank you,

Briannasnana





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Re: [LegacyUG] Families

2016-01-23 Thread Sherry/Support

Just the app we've been discussing - Families 2.0.  That was designed
to work with Legacy's Family Files. In fact, that's the only file that
Families will work with.

Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
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On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 9:18 AM, Gerald E Boor  wrote:
> Does Legacy have an Android app in the works?  Jerry Boor, 
> MerriamFamilyTree.org
>
>

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RE: [LegacyUG] Looking in Temporary Interfiles

2016-01-23 Thread Rita Lynn McKale

Jenny,

Thank you so much.  That was it.  I have no clue how that would have happened.

Briannasnana

-Original Message-
From: Jenny M Benson [mailto:ge...@cedarbank.me.uk]
Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2016 2:45 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Looking in Temporary Interfiles

On 23/01/2016 17:21, Rita Lynn McKale wrote:
> I can’t figure this out.  After reformatting my computer I installed
> Legacy 7.5 from the website.  I have several family files that I had
> backed up and saved to an external hard drive.  I restored those files
> and then backed them up.  Now when I go to File, Open Family File,
> Legacy is looking in “Temporary Internet Files.  I can direct it to my
> C, Legacy, Data file but the next time I want to open a family file it
> is looking in the Temporary Internet File again.  What did I do wrong?
> How can I fix, or do I need to delete everything and start over again?

Go to Options>Customise>6.Locations and enter the correct location for your 
family files in the first box.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Status of TMG importer

2016-01-23 Thread Jamie Poindexter

Steve,

Paul is correct.  Your desktop and laptops using Dropbox have a folder
that is called Dropbox.  Anything you save there is synchronized to the
cloud Dropbox server.  Anything synced  to the cloud server from one
computer is also synced to your other devices.  If you are offline in a
library, you have access to your Legacy files from the Dropbox folder on
your laptop.  The next time you are online with that laptop, Dropbox
will sync your changes in your local folder with the cloud server, and
likewise, with your other devices.

The key is to make sure that no one, you or your wife, access that
Legacy file until the changes you made while offline are synced with the
cloud.  If she were to make changes online at home while you are making
changes offline, when you get back online, your updates may overwrite
hers, or worse, the whole database get corrupted.

My team are distant cousins working on the same database.  We use Skype
to determine if the others are online (in our case, we never use TMG
when offline).  If I see someone is booted up, as indicated in Skype, I
text or call them before I boot TMG on my computer to confirm if they
have TMG open.  We all agreed to set Skype to always boot when we turn
on our computers so that we can rely on the Skype indicators.  If no one
else has their computers showing active in Skype, I can open TMG.  This
would work with Legacy as well, except in your case where you are
offline in the library, but you could open Legacy to look at data, just
don't make any changes, then you don't have to worry about overwriting
your wife's changes.

Maybe we should rename this thread to Using Dropbox with Legacy.

Jamie

On 1/22/2016 9:41 PM, Steve Hayes wrote:
> On 22 Jan 2016 at 6:03, Sherry/Support wrote:
>
>> You can store the Family File in the cloud, but the program itself has
>> to be installed under Windows or a Windows emulator.
> One way of doing it is by using Dropbox.
>
> You can keep your Legacy data files in a Dropbox directory. I have done this
> with Rootsmagic, where my wife and I access the data files from desktop or
> laptop computers. It is best to turn Bropbox syncing off when actually
> working on the file, and to make sure that one is only working in it on one
> computer at a time.
>
> This would probably work with Legacy v 7.5 or earlier, but would be awkward
> with Legacy 8.x, which has a different default method of storing data files.
> As a result of that I transfer the Legacy data from my desktop to my laptop
> with a USB flash drive, and every time I change I have to do the "Restore
> User Defaults" routine. But I still back the data file up to Dropbox.
>
>
>
>

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Re: [LegacyUG] Looking in Temporary Interfiles

2016-01-23 Thread Gene Young

I am using V8 and don't remember the exact steps but if you use the help file 
and search for default start file (or variations on this phrase) you should 
find what you need to set the default file to open when Legacy starts.

On 1/23/2016 12:21 PM, Rita Lynn McKale wrote:
> Hi
>
> I can’t figure this out.  After reformatting my computer I installed Legacy 
> 7.5 from the website.  I have several family files that I had backed up and 
> saved to an external hard drive.  I restored those files and then backed them 
> up.  Now when I go to File, Open Family File, Legacy is looking in “Temporary 
> Internet Files.  I can direct it to my C, Legacy, Data file but the next time 
> I want to open a family file it is looking in the Temporary Internet File 
> again.  What did I do wrong?  How can I fix, or do I need to delete 
> everything and start over again?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Briannasnana
>
>
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RE: [LegacyUG] Status of TMG importer

2016-01-23 Thread Paul Gray

One thing to note here. Using Dropbox, or other similar services, is NOT 
working and storing for data file in the cloud. You are only storing a COPY of 
your file on Dropbox. Legacy, and all desktop programs that I am aware of, work 
with a local copy of your data.

Paul

-Original Message-
From: Steve Hayes [mailto:hayes...@telkomsa.net]
Sent: January 22, 2016 8:41 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Status of TMG importer

On 22 Jan 2016 at 6:03, Sherry/Support wrote:

> You can store the Family File in the cloud, but the program itself has
> to be installed under Windows or a Windows emulator.

One way of doing it is by using Dropbox.

You can keep your Legacy data files in a Dropbox directory. I have done this 
with Rootsmagic, where my wife and I access the data files from desktop or 
laptop computers. It is best to turn Bropbox syncing off when actually working 
on the file, and to make sure that one is only working in it on one computer at 
a time.

This would probably work with Legacy v 7.5 or earlier, but would be awkward 
with Legacy 8.x, which has a different default method of storing data files.
As a result of that I transfer the Legacy data from my desktop to my laptop 
with a USB flash drive, and every time I change I have to do the "Restore User 
Defaults" routine. But I still back the data file up to Dropbox.

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RE: [LegacyUG] sneaky <>

2016-01-23 Thread Brian L. Lightfoot

Or she could just permanently remove them from the Notes sections where the 
text was entered by clicking on the “Strip HTML” button on that Note. Copying 
and pasting directly from Ancestry and FamilySearch will often include these 
invisible tabs even at the end of lines making them difficult to see without 
clicking the mouse to locate a cursor beyond the end of the line. If the cursor 
sticks an inch away from the end of a line, then you’ve got some hidden tabs 
there. If you can see some visible tabs (“<>”), the Strip HTML button 
works on that also.  Just get in the habit of clicking on the Strip HTML button 
whenever pasting text from a web source.



Brian in California

No blizzard here





From: Cathy Pinner [mailto:genea...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 6:45 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] sneaky <>



Try this.

I just tried and I think it's worked

when exporting the Gedcom tick to "convert formatting styles to HTML style"

but I haven't uploaded the Gedcom anywhere - just looked at it.

Cathy


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Re: [LegacyUG] Families

2016-01-23 Thread Gerald E Boor

Does Legacy have an Android app in the works?  Jerry Boor, MerriamFamilyTree.org

On January 23, 2016, at 09:17, Sherry/Support  
wrote:

Can we please limit the discussions to Legacy and Legacy Add-on
Programs, the purpose of this list??

Legacy works well with Families 2.0 for Android and iOS devices and
GedStar Pro and Family Bee are a competitors.

Thanks!

Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree

On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 4:20 AM, Ed Ladendorf  wrote:
> GedStar Pro has recently become free of charge after being a program to
> purchase for quite a while. I just downloaded it, and haven't used it enough
> to pass along any review on it. But it looks promising. It seems to offer
> much more than some others. Do a google search for GedStar Pro, and you will
> be able to see screenshots to help you decide if it's worth trying. The
> price is right. Maybe some others can offer their opinions on it.
>
>
> On Saturday, January 23, 2016 1:36 AM, William Boswell 
> wrote:
>
>
> There doesn't seem to be a trial version for Family Bee.  You have to pay
> the $10 to try it out.  Not good in my opinion since there's some complaints
> about importing GEDCOMs.
>
> Bill Boswell

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Re: [LegacyUG] Families

2016-01-23 Thread Cheryl Rothwell

I used GedStar Pro in my TMG and Palm Pilot days. It's a good enough
program. I have it on my phone. I note the On This Day part of it - addon
may be a better term - has some flaws in it. It's kicking out dates wrong
from time to time. And he has retired so it won't be fixed.

This is why I was looking at Families again.

On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 11:16 AM, Sherry/Support <
she...@legacyfamilytree.com> wrote:

> If you go to our website www.LegacyFamilyTree.com, check out the list of
> Add-Ons under that menu item.
>
> The download link is for v3, which doesn't even show in their change log!
> I doubt very much that the download you found would work with the latest
> version of Legacy.
>
> GedStar Pro is currently v4.6.0. If you go to the GedStar Pro website, it
> states that support is limited there is no guarantee for updates or future
> releases.  Looks to me like the developer is running out of steam.
>
> Families 2.0 works directly with the Legacy FamilyFile and no gedcom is
> necessary. You can edit the data and reimport it back into Legacy.  Malcolm
> Greene, the developer of Families, is still around and doing great support
> for this app. There's also an iOS version.
>
> I used GedStar Pro back in the Palm handheld days!
>
>
>
>
>
> Sincerely,
> Sherry
> Technical Support
> Legacy Family Tree
>
> On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 6:44 AM, Ed Ladendorf 
> wrote:
>
>> GedStar Pro was considered a Legacy add on, but it seems it is no longer
>> considered that. Sorry for my mistake. See Legacy Family Tree Genealogy
>> Software: Download GedStar Pro
>> 
>>
>>
>> [image: image] 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Legacy Family Tree Genealogy Software: Download Ged...
>> 
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>> GHCS Software.  For more information click here or to visit GHCS Software's
>> web site cli...
>> View on www.legacyfamilytre...
>> 
>> Preview by Yahoo
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Looking in Temporary Interfiles

2016-01-23 Thread Jenny M Benson

On 23/01/2016 17:21, Rita Lynn McKale wrote:
> I can’t figure this out.  After reformatting my computer I installed
> Legacy 7.5 from the website.  I have several family files that I had
> backed up and saved to an external hard drive.  I restored those files
> and then backed them up.  Now when I go to File, Open Family File,
> Legacy is looking in “Temporary Internet Files.  I can direct it to my
> C, Legacy, Data file but the next time I want to open a family file it
> is looking in the Temporary Internet File again.  What did I do wrong?
> How can I fix, or do I need to delete everything and start over again?

Go to Options>Customise>6.Locations and enter the correct location for
your family files in the first box.

--
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Re: [LegacyUG] sneaky <>

2016-01-23 Thread Eliz Hanebury

Brian, strip HTML doesn't work on <> in my Legacy, an please note
that the <> in inline not at the end.

I don't easily find many of the goodies in Legacy but strip HTML is
right where I can see and find it  and use it.
Eliz
Not Today and Not without a Fight
(Anon)

For all that has been, thanks.
For all that will be, yes.
(Dag Hammarskjold)


On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 12:28 PM, Brian L. Lightfoot
 wrote:
> Or she could just permanently remove them from the Notes sections where the
> text was entered by clicking on the “Strip HTML” button on that Note.
> Copying and pasting directly from Ancestry and FamilySearch will often
> include these invisible tabs even at the end of lines making them difficult
> to see without clicking the mouse to locate a cursor beyond the end of the
> line. If the cursor sticks an inch away from the end of a line, then you’ve
> got some hidden tabs there. If you can see some visible tabs (“<>”),
> the Strip HTML button works on that also.  Just get in the habit of clicking
> on the Strip HTML button whenever pasting text from a web source.
>
>
>
> Brian in California
>
> No blizzard here
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Cathy Pinner [mailto:genea...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 6:45 PM
> To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] sneaky <>
>
>
>
> Try this.
>
> I just tried and I think it's worked
>
> when exporting the Gedcom tick to "convert formatting styles to HTML style"
>
> but I haven't uploaded the Gedcom anywhere - just looked at it.
>
> Cathy
>
>
> Eliz Hanebury wrote:
>
>
> Okay support  I didn't much like this when only I could see these
> <>  but now I see them all over my World Connect tree. I might
> have noticed earlier if I visited it more often. How do I kill
> <>?
>
>
>
> FOLIO:Â«tabÂ»634
> PAGE NUMBER:Â«tabÂ»20
> HOUSEHOLD SCHEDULE NUMBER:Â«tabÂ»65
> HOUSEHOLD MEMBERS:Â«tabÂ»
> NAMEÂ«tabÂ»AGE
> Edward JamesÂ«tabÂ»46
> Sussanah JamesÂ«tabÂ»44
> Naomi JamesÂ«tabÂ»18
> David JamesÂ«tabÂ»16
> Margaret JamesÂ«tabÂ»13
> Elizabeth JamesÂ«tabÂ»11
> Edward JamesÂ«tabÂ»9
> Richard JamesÂ«tabÂ»7
> Aaron JamesÂ«tabÂ»5
> Sarah JamesÂ«tabÂ»1
> Eliz
> Not Today and Not without a Fight
> (Anon)
>
> For all that has been, thanks.
> For all that will be, yes.
>  (Dag Hammarskjold)
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Families

2016-01-23 Thread Sherry/Support

If you go to our website www.LegacyFamilyTree.com, check out the list of
Add-Ons under that menu item.

The download link is for v3, which doesn't even show in their change log! I
doubt very much that the download you found would work with the latest
version of Legacy.

GedStar Pro is currently v4.6.0. If you go to the GedStar Pro website, it
states that support is limited there is no guarantee for updates or future
releases.  Looks to me like the developer is running out of steam.

Families 2.0 works directly with the Legacy FamilyFile and no gedcom is
necessary. You can edit the data and reimport it back into Legacy.  Malcolm
Greene, the developer of Families, is still around and doing great support
for this app. There's also an iOS version.

I used GedStar Pro back in the Palm handheld days!

Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree

On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 6:44 AM, Ed Ladendorf  wrote:

> GedStar Pro was considered a Legacy add on, but it seems it is no longer
> considered that. Sorry for my mistake. See Legacy Family Tree Genealogy
> Software: Download GedStar Pro
> 
>
>
> [image: image] 
>
>
>
>
>
> Legacy Family Tree Genealogy Software: Download Ged...
> 
> GedStar-Pro for Legacy GedStar-Pro is a Legacy Add-on program produced by
> GHCS Software.  For more information click here or to visit GHCS Software's
> web site cli...
> View on www.legacyfamilytre...
> 
> Preview by Yahoo
>
>
>

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RE: [LegacyUG] sneaky <>

2016-01-23 Thread Brian L. Lightfoot

>. it looks like it is seeing the outer < and > and removing everything 
>between.

Confirmed.
 Thus the nested "<<" makes no difference in what it removes. For example, if 
one were to add this phrase to any notes,  <>, and then hit the Strip HTML button, it would ALL be erased. In other 
words, it seems as if it's not really looking for HTML codes but merely the 
"less than" sign and the "greater than" sign as flags, and then assumes it must 
all be HTML so everything goes into the bit bucket.

Along similar lines, I remember several months back when I got fancy with my 
treatment for Unknown names and entered them as . You cannot believe 
the HTML mess I got when Gedcoms were uploaded to Ancestry's web pages.

Your conjecture that the characters might be alt0171 and alt0187 might be 
possible but I can't see how they can be confused because they are so much 
smaller. Here is the ASCII Code for such printable characters:

ASCII code 174 = « ( Angle quotes, guillemets, right-pointing quotation mark )
ASCII code 175 = » ( Guillemets, angle quotes, left-pointing quotation marks )

The double "smaller than/greater than" characters would look like << and >>.

Close but no cigar. But I do like your other suggestion to do a "Search and 
Replace" to permanently get rid of the offending characters whether they be RTF 
formatting codes or printable ASCII characters. Hopefully the OP can utilize 
one or more of these methods and achieve some joy.


Brian in CA



-Original Message-
From: Brian/Support [mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2016 3:03 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] sneaky <>

It may be because the arrows before and after the tab are not two arrows << and 
>> but are alt0171 Â« and alt0187 Â» characters which are not recognized as 
HTML but are part of the RTF code for a tab character.

Also the Strip HTML removes text between single arrows  but I see it works when there are nested << and >> as well, it
looks like it is seeing the outer < and > and removing everything between.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
br...@legacyfamilytree.com
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com


On 23/01/2016 16:26, Brian L. Lightfoot wrote:
> Before posting my message, I tested adding <> in one of my notes then 
> hit Strip HTML and it was removed. Don't know why yours is different.
>
> Brian
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Eliz Hanebury [mailto:elizhg...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2016 11:51 AM
> To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] sneaky <>
>
> Brian, strip HTML doesn't work on <> in my Legacy, an please note that 
> the <> in inline not at the end.
>
> I don't easily find many of the goodies in Legacy but strip HTML is right 
> where I can see and find it  and use it.
> Eliz
>
> On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 12:28 PM, Brian L. Lightfoot 
>  wrote:
>> Or she could just permanently remove them from the Notes sections
>> where the text was entered by clicking on the â€œStrip HTMLâ€ button on 
>> that Note.
>> Copying and pasting directly from Ancestry and FamilySearch will often
>> include these invisible tabs even at the end of lines making them
>> difficult to see without clicking the mouse to locate a cursor beyond
>> the end of the line. If the cursor sticks an inch away from the end of
>> a line, then youâ€™ve got some hidden tabs there. If you can see some
>> visible tabs (â€œ<>â€), the Strip HTML button works on that also.
>> Just get in the habit of clicking on the Strip HTML button whenever pasting 
>> text from a web source.
>>
>> Brian in California
>>
>> No blizzard here
>>
>> From: Cathy Pinner [mailto:genea...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 6:45 PM
>> To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] sneaky <>
>>
>> Try this.
>>
>> I just tried and I think it's worked
>>
>> when exporting the Gedcom tick to "convert formatting styles to HTML style"
>>
>> but I haven't uploaded the Gedcom anywhere - just looked at it.
>>
>> Cathy
>>
>>
>> Eliz Hanebury wrote:
>>
>> Okay support  I didn't much like this when only I could see these
>> <>  but now I see them all over my World Connect tree. I might
>> have noticed earlier if I visited it more often. How do I kill
>> <>?
>>
>> FOLIO:Ã‚Â«tabÃ‚Â»634
>> PAGE NUMBER:Ã‚Â«tabÃ‚Â»20
>> HOUSEHOLD SCHEDULE NUMBER:Ã‚Â«tabÃ‚Â»65
>> HOUSEHOLD MEMBERS:Ã‚Â«tabÃ‚Â»
>> NAMEÃ‚Â«tabÃ‚Â»AGE
>> Edward JamesÃ‚Â«tabÃ‚Â»46
>> Sussanah JamesÃ‚Â«tabÃ‚Â»44
>> Naomi JamesÃ‚Â«tabÃ‚Â»18
>> David JamesÃ‚Â«tabÃ‚Â»16
>> Margaret JamesÃ‚Â«tabÃ‚Â»13
>> Elizabeth JamesÃ‚Â«tabÃ‚Â»11
>> Edward JamesÃ‚Â«tabÃ‚Â»9
>> Richard JamesÃ‚Â«tabÃ‚Â»7
>> Aaron JamesÃ‚Â«tabÃ‚Â»5
>> Sarah JamesÃ‚Â«tabÃ‚Â»1
>> Eliz







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Re: [LegacyUG] sneaky <>

2016-01-23 Thread Eliz Hanebury

Okay, I will take a deep breath and work on it  this only started
after either an update or a reboot, I don't quite remember which but
the <> in World Connect is really new.
Eliz
Not Today and Not without a Fight
(Anon)

For all that has been, thanks.
For all that will be, yes.
(Dag Hammarskjold)


On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 6:18 PM, Brian/Support
 wrote:
> The Â«tabÂ» is the Rich Text Format (RTF) code for a tab character (we use
> RTF codes to format text in Notes). That is not understood by a web page
> which wants HTML coding so that is why you see those in your
> WorldConnect tree when you upload a Legacy created GEDCOM.
>
> If you want to remove those tabs from your Notes in Legacy:
> Use search and replace
> Search > Search and replace
> There are buttons below the character ribbon to search for tab and
> Carriage Return (CR) special characters. The tab button will insert the
> Â«tabÂ» for you.
>
> Replacement text should be either a space or nothing depending how your
> tabs are surrounded in your problem text.
>
> If you are uploading a GEDCOM from Legacy to WorldConnect though Cathy's
> earlier suggestion to have Legacy convert the tabs in your GEDCOM into
> HTML codes should work to make them HTML tabs not RTF tabs and you can
> keep the tabs in your Legacy Notes.
>
> Brian
> Customer Support
> Millennia Corporation
> br...@legacyfamilytree.com
> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
>
> On 23/01/2016 14:50, Eliz Hanebury wrote:
>> Brian, strip HTML doesn't work on <> in my Legacy, an please note
>> that the <> in inline not at the end.
>>
>> I don't easily find many of the goodies in Legacy but strip HTML is
>> right where I can see and find it  and use it.
>> Eliz
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 12:28 PM, Brian L. Lightfoot
>>  wrote:
>>> Or she could just permanently remove them from the Notes sections where the
>>> text was entered by clicking on the â€œStrip HTMLâ€  button on that Note.
>>> Copying and pasting directly from Ancestry and FamilySearch will often
>>> include these invisible tabs even at the end of lines making them difficult
>>> to see without clicking the mouse to locate a cursor beyond the end of the
>>> line. If the cursor sticks an inch away from the end of a line, then 
>>> youâ€™ve
>>> got some hidden tabs there. If you can see some visible tabs (â€œ<>â€ 
>>> ),
>>> the Strip HTML button works on that also.  Just get in the habit of clicking
>>> on the Strip HTML button whenever pasting text from a web source.
>>>
>>> Brian in California
>>>
>>> From: Cathy Pinner [mailto:genea...@gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 6:45 PM
>>> To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
>>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] sneaky <>
>>>
>>> Try this.
>>>
>>> I just tried and I think it's worked
>>> when exporting the Gedcom tick to "convert formatting styles to HTML style"
>>> but I haven't uploaded the Gedcom anywhere - just looked at it.
>>>
>>> Cathy
>>>
>>> Eliz Hanebury wrote:
>>>
>>> Okay support  I didn't much like this when only I could see these
>>> <>  but now I see them all over my World Connect tree. I might
>>> have noticed earlier if I visited it more often. How do I kill
>>> <>?
>>>
>>> FOLIO:Ã‚Â«tabÃ‚Â»634
>>> PAGE NUMBER:Ã‚Â«tabÃ‚Â»20
>>> HOUSEHOLD SCHEDULE NUMBER:Ã‚Â«tabÃ‚Â»65
>>> HOUSEHOLD MEMBERS:Ã‚Â«tabÃ‚Â»
>>> NAMEÃ‚Â«tabÃ‚Â»AGE
>>> Edward JamesÃ‚Â«tabÃ‚Â»46
>>> Sussanah JamesÃ‚Â«tabÃ‚Â»44
>>> Naomi JamesÃ‚Â«tabÃ‚Â»18
>>> David JamesÃ‚Â«tabÃ‚Â»16
>>> Margaret JamesÃ‚Â«tabÃ‚Â»13
>>> Elizabeth JamesÃ‚Â«tabÃ‚Â»11
>>> Edward JamesÃ‚Â«tabÃ‚Â»9
>>> Richard JamesÃ‚Â«tabÃ‚Â»7
>>> Aaron JamesÃ‚Â«tabÃ‚Â»5
>>> Sarah JamesÃ‚Â«tabÃ‚Â»1
>>> Eliz
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] sneaky <>

2016-01-23 Thread Cathy Pinner

Well I certainly won't be getting rid of my tabs in Legacy event notes.
It takes a combination of tabs and spaces if the first space is really
irregular size and the tab is a set unchangeable size in Legacy, but
I've had things line up by using tabs for years.

Since you can remove them from the gedcom and replace with the html form
of the tab by just checking a checkbox, WHY would you get rid of them?
You need to do that for bold and italics etc anyway.

Cathy

Eliz Hanebury wrote:
>
> Okay, I will take a deep breath and work on it this only started
> after either an update or a reboot, I don't quite remember which but
> the<> in World Connect is really new.
> Eliz
> Not Today and Not without a Fight
> (Anon)
>
> For all that has been, thanks.
> For all that will be, yes.
> (Dag Hammarskjold)
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 6:18 PM, Brian/Support
>  wrote:
>>
>> The Ã‚Â«tabÃ‚Â» is the Rich Text Format (RTF) code for a tab character
>> (we use
>> RTF codes to format text in Notes). That is not understood by a web page
>> which wants HTML coding so that is why you see those in your
>> WorldConnect tree when you upload a Legacy created GEDCOM.
>>
>> If you want to remove those tabs from your Notes in Legacy:
>> Use search and replace
>> Search> Search and replace
>> There are buttons below the character ribbon to search for tab and
>> Carriage Return (CR) special characters. The tab button will insert the
>> Ã‚Â«tabÃ‚Â» for you.
>>
>> Replacement text should be either a space or nothing depending how your
>> tabs are surrounded in your problem text.
>>
>> If you are uploading a GEDCOM from Legacy to WorldConnect though Cathy's
>> earlier suggestion to have Legacy convert the tabs in your GEDCOM into
>> HTML codes should work to make them HTML tabs not RTF tabs and you can
>> keep the tabs in your Legacy Notes.
>>
>> Brian
>> Customer Support
>> Millennia Corporation
>> br...@legacyfamilytree.com
>> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
>>
>> On 23/01/2016 14:50, Eliz Hanebury wrote:
>>>
>>> Brian, strip HTML doesn't work on<> in my Legacy, an please note
>>> that the<> in inline not at the end.
>>>
>>> I don't easily find many of the goodies in Legacy but strip HTML is
>>> right where I can see and find it and use it.
>>> Eliz
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 12:28 PM, Brian L. Lightfoot
>>>  wrote:

 Or she could just permanently remove them from the Notes sections
 where the
 text was entered by clicking on the Ã¢â‚¬Å“Strip HTMLÃ¢â‚¬ button on that
 Note.
 Copying and pasting directly from Ancestry and FamilySearch will often
 include these invisible tabs even at the end of lines making them
 difficult
 to see without clicking the mouse to locate a cursor beyond the end
 of the
 line. If the cursor sticks an inch away from the end of a line,
 then youÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ve
 got some hidden tabs there. If you can see some visible tabs
 (Ã¢â‚¬Å“<>Ã¢â‚¬ ),
 the Strip HTML button works on that also. Just get in the habit of
 clicking
 on the Strip HTML button whenever pasting text from a web source.

 Brian in California

 From: Cathy Pinner [mailto:genea...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 6:45 PM
 To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] sneaky<>

 Try this.

 I just tried and I think it's worked
 when exporting the Gedcom tick to "convert formatting styles to
 HTML style"
 but I haven't uploaded the Gedcom anywhere - just looked at it.

 Cathy

 Eliz Hanebury wrote:

 Okay support I didn't much like this when only I could see these
 <> but now I see them all over my World Connect tree. I might
 have noticed earlier if I visited it more often. How do I kill
 <>?

 FOLIO:Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â«tabÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â»634
 PAGE NUMBER:Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â«tabÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â»20
 HOUSEHOLD SCHEDULE NUMBER:Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â«tabÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â»65
 HOUSEHOLD MEMBERS:Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â«tabÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â»
 NAMEÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â«tabÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â»AGE
 Edward JamesÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â«tabÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â»46
 Sussanah JamesÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â«tabÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â»44
 Naomi JamesÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â«tabÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â»18
 David JamesÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â«tabÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â»16
 Margaret JamesÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â«tabÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â»13
 Elizabeth JamesÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â«tabÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â»11
 Edward JamesÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â«tabÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â»9
 Richard JamesÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â«tabÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â»7
 Aaron JamesÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â«tabÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â»5
 Sarah JamesÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â«tabÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â»1
 Eliz
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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RE: [LegacyUG] sneaky <>

2016-01-23 Thread Brian L. Lightfoot

Before posting my message, I tested adding <> in one of my notes then hit 
Strip HTML and it was removed. Don't know why yours is different.

Brian


-Original Message-
From: Eliz Hanebury [mailto:elizhg...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2016 11:51 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] sneaky <>

Brian, strip HTML doesn't work on <> in my Legacy, an please note that the 
<> in inline not at the end.

I don't easily find many of the goodies in Legacy but strip HTML is right where 
I can see and find it  and use it.
Eliz
Not Today and Not without a Fight
(Anon)

For all that has been, thanks.
For all that will be, yes.
(Dag Hammarskjold)


On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 12:28 PM, Brian L. Lightfoot  
wrote:
> Or she could just permanently remove them from the Notes sections
> where the text was entered by clicking on the “Strip HTML” button on that 
> Note.
> Copying and pasting directly from Ancestry and FamilySearch will often
> include these invisible tabs even at the end of lines making them
> difficult to see without clicking the mouse to locate a cursor beyond
> the end of the line. If the cursor sticks an inch away from the end of
> a line, then you’ve got some hidden tabs there. If you can see some
> visible tabs (“<>”), the Strip HTML button works on that also.
> Just get in the habit of clicking on the Strip HTML button whenever pasting 
> text from a web source.
>
>
>
> Brian in California
>
> No blizzard here
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Cathy Pinner [mailto:genea...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 6:45 PM
> To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] sneaky <>
>
>
>
> Try this.
>
> I just tried and I think it's worked
>
> when exporting the Gedcom tick to "convert formatting styles to HTML style"
>
> but I haven't uploaded the Gedcom anywhere - just looked at it.
>
> Cathy
>
>
> Eliz Hanebury wrote:
>
>
> Okay support  I didn't much like this when only I could see these
> <>  but now I see them all over my World Connect tree. I might
> have noticed earlier if I visited it more often. How do I kill
> <>?
>
>
>
> FOLIO:Â«tabÂ»634
> PAGE NUMBER:Â«tabÂ»20
> HOUSEHOLD SCHEDULE NUMBER:Â«tabÂ»65
> HOUSEHOLD MEMBERS:Â«tabÂ»
> NAMEÂ«tabÂ»AGE
> Edward JamesÂ«tabÂ»46
> Sussanah JamesÂ«tabÂ»44
> Naomi JamesÂ«tabÂ»18
> David JamesÂ«tabÂ»16
> Margaret JamesÂ«tabÂ»13
> Elizabeth JamesÂ«tabÂ»11
> Edward JamesÂ«tabÂ»9
> Richard JamesÂ«tabÂ»7
> Aaron JamesÂ«tabÂ»5
> Sarah JamesÂ«tabÂ»1
> Eliz
> Not Today and Not without a Fight
> (Anon)
>
> For all that has been, thanks.
> For all that will be, yes.
>  (Dag Hammarskjold)
>
>





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