[LegacyUG] Tip of the Day (Legacy Staff)

[Michele/Support]

TIP OF THE DAY (Legacy Staff) - Sources

The most frequent type of genealogy questions we get are questions about
sources and source citations (DNA is a close second). I wanted to give you
some resources that will help you understand this topic better.

Our SourceWriter templates are based on the examples in the book Evidence
Explained by Elizabeth Shown Mills. If you don't have this book I highly
recommend that you add it to your home reference library. Don't immediately
skip to the examples! The first two chapters are a must read. If you
understand the WHY of citations all will become clear :) 

The first two chapters are: 
Fundamentals of Evidence Analysis
Fundamentals of Citation

These two chapters will have you looking at your research in a new way :) 

The Evidence Explained website has MANY free articles and a forum where you
can ask questions. https://www.evidenceexplained.com/

To understand how you apply this information in Legacy itself, you can watch
Geoff's FREE webinar, Sources and Citations Made Simple, Standard, and
Powerful. It is consistently one of our most popular webinars.
https://www.evidenceexplained.com/

A lot of our Legacy users are a bit intimidated by source citations because
it is new territory for them. Legacy has built-in templates to help you
create citations that have the needed elements and will keep your citations
consistent. HOWEVER if you don't understand the why behind the citation you
will never understand the full value of your citations. 


Michele Simmons Lewis, CGR
Legacy Family Tree
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Re: [LegacyUG] Tip of the Day

[Ian Macaulay]

And if we all use the same company the results will be more cohesive.  They
so far have been a fantastic company to deal with.  FTDNA   has made a
world of difference to my genealogical research.

Ian

On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 5:49 PM, Michele Lewis  wrote:

> I'll revise my statement. FTDNA does full yDNA testing and not just a
> haplogroup :)
>
> On Sep 17, 2017 5:46 PM, "Denise Moss-Fritch" 
> wrote:
>
>> Your original comment was:
>>
>> “FTDNA.  They are the only ones that do yDNA testing.”
>>
>> Why is it you seem to be against any company other than FTDNA offering
>> yDNA tests? DNA testing has changed and continues to change dramatically
>> since I had my first test nearly five years ago.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] *On
>> Behalf Of *Michele Lewis
>> *Sent:* Sunday, September 17, 2017 1:09 PM
>> *To:* Mailing List for users of Legacy Family Tree software <
>> LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Tip of the Day
>>
>>
>>
>> How many markers do they test for yDNA? 12? 25? 37? 67? 111? Do they give
>> you your marker values?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sep 17, 2017 3:50 PM, "Denise Moss-Fritch" 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Please visit and check out their site.
>>
>>
>>
>> The test sequence and resulting information includes:
>>
>>- autosomal test (with standard percentage results, plus specifics
>>for UK areas)
>>- mtDNA (haplogroups and connections to other identified groups)
>>- yDNA (haplogroup, plus connections)
>>- downloadable raw data (sharable elsewhere)
>>- new share section.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] *On
>> Behalf Of *Michele Lewis
>> *Sent:* Sunday, September 17, 2017 12:31 PM
>> *To:* Mailing List for users of Legacy Family Tree software <
>> LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Tip of the Day
>>
>>
>>
>> Living DNA will give you your yDNA and mtDNA haplogroups, nothing more.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sep 17, 2017 12:53 PM, "Denise Moss-Fritch" 
>> wrote:
>>
>> No, that is not accurate. The test performed by Living DNA is ‘3-in-1”,
>> including autosomal, yDNA, and mtDNA. The company is based in the UK. Since
>> the company is UK based, if you have ancestors in that area, the autosomal
>> results go a step further and identify sections of the country too.
>>
>>
>>
>> Denise
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] *On
>> Behalf Of *Michele Lewis
>> *Sent:* Saturday, September 16, 2017 7:30 PM
>> *To:* Mailing List for users of Legacy Family Tree software <
>> LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Tip of the Day
>>
>>
>>
>> FTDNA.  They are the only ones that do yDNA testing.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Tip of the Day

[Michele Lewis]

I'll revise my statement. FTDNA does full yDNA testing and not just a
haplogroup :)

On Sep 17, 2017 5:46 PM, "Denise Moss-Fritch" 
wrote:

> Your original comment was:
>
> “FTDNA.  They are the only ones that do yDNA testing.”
>
> Why is it you seem to be against any company other than FTDNA offering
> yDNA tests? DNA testing has changed and continues to change dramatically
> since I had my first test nearly five years ago.
>
>
>
> *From:* LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Michele Lewis
> *Sent:* Sunday, September 17, 2017 1:09 PM
> *To:* Mailing List for users of Legacy Family Tree software <
> LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Tip of the Day
>
>
>
> How many markers do they test for yDNA? 12? 25? 37? 67? 111? Do they give
> you your marker values?
>
>
>
> On Sep 17, 2017 3:50 PM, "Denise Moss-Fritch" 
> wrote:
>
> Please visit and check out their site.
>
>
>
> The test sequence and resulting information includes:
>
>- autosomal test (with standard percentage results, plus specifics for
>UK areas)
>- mtDNA (haplogroups and connections to other identified groups)
>- yDNA (haplogroup, plus connections)
>- downloadable raw data (sharable elsewhere)
>- new share section.
>
>
>
> *From:* LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Michele Lewis
> *Sent:* Sunday, September 17, 2017 12:31 PM
> *To:* Mailing List for users of Legacy Family Tree software <
> LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Tip of the Day
>
>
>
> Living DNA will give you your yDNA and mtDNA haplogroups, nothing more.
>
>
>
> On Sep 17, 2017 12:53 PM, "Denise Moss-Fritch" 
> wrote:
>
> No, that is not accurate. The test performed by Living DNA is ‘3-in-1”,
> including autosomal, yDNA, and mtDNA. The company is based in the UK. Since
> the company is UK based, if you have ancestors in that area, the autosomal
> results go a step further and identify sections of the country too.
>
>
>
> Denise
>
>
>
> *From:* LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Michele Lewis
> *Sent:* Saturday, September 16, 2017 7:30 PM
> *To:* Mailing List for users of Legacy Family Tree software <
> LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Tip of the Day
>
>
>
> FTDNA.  They are the only ones that do yDNA testing.
>
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Tip of the Day

[Denise Moss-Fritch]

Your original comment was:

“FTDNA.  They are the only ones that do yDNA testing.”

Why is it you seem to be against any company other than FTDNA offering yDNA 
tests? DNA testing has changed and continues to change dramatically since I had 
my first test nearly five years ago.

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Michele Lewis
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 1:09 PM
To: Mailing List for users of Legacy Family Tree software 

Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Tip of the Day

 

How many markers do they test for yDNA? 12? 25? 37? 67? 111? Do they give you 
your marker values? 

 

On Sep 17, 2017 3:50 PM, "Denise Moss-Fritch" mailto:d.mossfri...@comcast.net> > wrote:

Please visit and check out their site.

 

The test sequence and resulting information includes:

*   autosomal test (with standard percentage results, plus specifics for UK 
areas)
*   mtDNA (haplogroups and connections to other identified groups)
*   yDNA (haplogroup, plus connections)
*   downloadable raw data (sharable elsewhere)
*   new share section.

 

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<mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com> ] On Behalf Of Michele Lewis
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 12:31 PM
To: Mailing List for users of Legacy Family Tree software 
mailto:LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com> >
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Tip of the Day

 

Living DNA will give you your yDNA and mtDNA haplogroups, nothing more.

 

On Sep 17, 2017 12:53 PM, "Denise Moss-Fritch" mailto:d.mossfri...@comcast.net> > wrote:

No, that is not accurate. The test performed by Living DNA is ‘3-in-1”, 
including autosomal, yDNA, and mtDNA. The company is based in the UK. Since the 
company is UK based, if you have ancestors in that area, the autosomal results 
go a step further and identify sections of the country too.

 

Denise

 

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<mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com> ] On Behalf Of Michele Lewis
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 7:30 PM
To: Mailing List for users of Legacy Family Tree software 
mailto:LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com> >
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Tip of the Day

 

FTDNA.  They are the only ones that do yDNA testing.

 


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Re: [LegacyUG] Tip of the Day

[Michele Lewis]

How many markers do they test for yDNA? 12? 25? 37? 67? 111? Do they give
you your marker values?

On Sep 17, 2017 3:50 PM, "Denise Moss-Fritch" 
wrote:

> Please visit and check out their site.
>
>
>
> The test sequence and resulting information includes:
>
>- autosomal test (with standard percentage results, plus specifics for
>UK areas)
>- mtDNA (haplogroups and connections to other identified groups)
>- yDNA (haplogroup, plus connections)
>- downloadable raw data (sharable elsewhere)
>- new share section.
>
>
>
> *From:* LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Michele Lewis
> *Sent:* Sunday, September 17, 2017 12:31 PM
> *To:* Mailing List for users of Legacy Family Tree software <
> LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Tip of the Day
>
>
>
> Living DNA will give you your yDNA and mtDNA haplogroups, nothing more.
>
>
>
> On Sep 17, 2017 12:53 PM, "Denise Moss-Fritch" 
> wrote:
>
> No, that is not accurate. The test performed by Living DNA is ‘3-in-1”,
> including autosomal, yDNA, and mtDNA. The company is based in the UK. Since
> the company is UK based, if you have ancestors in that area, the autosomal
> results go a step further and identify sections of the country too.
>
>
>
> Denise
>
>
>
> *From:* LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Michele Lewis
> *Sent:* Saturday, September 16, 2017 7:30 PM
> *To:* Mailing List for users of Legacy Family Tree software <
> LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Tip of the Day
>
>
>
> FTDNA.  They are the only ones that do yDNA testing.
>
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Tip of the Day

[Denise Moss-Fritch]

Please visit and check out their site.

 

The test sequence and resulting information includes:

*   autosomal test (with standard percentage results, plus specifics for UK 
areas)
*   mtDNA (haplogroups and connections to other identified groups)
*   yDNA (haplogroup, plus connections)
*   downloadable raw data (sharable elsewhere)
*   new share section.

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Michele Lewis
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 12:31 PM
To: Mailing List for users of Legacy Family Tree software 

Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Tip of the Day

 

Living DNA will give you your yDNA and mtDNA haplogroups, nothing more.

 

On Sep 17, 2017 12:53 PM, "Denise Moss-Fritch" mailto:d.mossfri...@comcast.net> > wrote:

No, that is not accurate. The test performed by Living DNA is ‘3-in-1”, 
including autosomal, yDNA, and mtDNA. The company is based in the UK. Since the 
company is UK based, if you have ancestors in that area, the autosomal results 
go a step further and identify sections of the country too.

 

Denise

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com 
<mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com> ] On Behalf Of Michele Lewis
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 7:30 PM
To: Mailing List for users of Legacy Family Tree software 
mailto:LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com> >
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Tip of the Day

 

FTDNA.  They are the only ones that do yDNA testing.

 


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Re: [LegacyUG] Tip of the Day

[Michele Lewis]

Living DNA will give you your yDNA and mtDNA haplogroups, nothing more.

On Sep 17, 2017 12:53 PM, "Denise Moss-Fritch" 
wrote:

> No, that is not accurate. The test performed by Living DNA is ‘3-in-1”,
> including autosomal, yDNA, and mtDNA. The company is based in the UK. Since
> the company is UK based, if you have ancestors in that area, the autosomal
> results go a step further and identify sections of the country too.
>
>
>
> Denise
>
>
>
> *From:* LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Michele Lewis
> *Sent:* Saturday, September 16, 2017 7:30 PM
> *To:* Mailing List for users of Legacy Family Tree software <
> LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Tip of the Day
>
>
>
> FTDNA.  They are the only ones that do yDNA testing.
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Tip of the Day

[Denise Moss-Fritch]

No, that is not accurate. The test performed by Living DNA is ‘3-in-1”, 
including autosomal, yDNA, and mtDNA. The company is based in the UK. Since the 
company is UK based, if you have ancestors in that area, the autosomal results 
go a step further and identify sections of the country too.

 

Denise

 

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Behalf Of Michele Lewis
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 7:30 PM
To: Mailing List for users of Legacy Family Tree software 

Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Tip of the Day

 

FTDNA.  They are the only ones that do yDNA testing.

 

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Re: [LegacyUG] Tip of the Day

[Michele Lewis]

FTDNA.  They are the only ones that do yDNA testing.

On Sep 16, 2017 8:06 PM, "Frederick C Buss Jr."  wrote:

> Who did your Uncle take his DNA with. From Frederick C Buss JR. took 1 at
> 23 and me and Family tree and Me also MH.
>
> On Sat, Jun 3, 2017 at 2:09 PM, Gene Wheeler  wrote:
>
>> Excellent examples, and food for thought! Thank you!
>>
>> Gene
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 3, 2017 at 12:58 PM, Michele/Support <
>> mich...@legacyfamilytree.com> wrote:
>>
>>> TIP OF THE DAY (Legacy Staff) - Fun with Hashtags
>>>
>>> (Legacy 9)
>>>
>>> Background information - My uncle took a yDNA test at 111 markers. He
>>> has two matches and they both match him at 110 markers and they match each
>>> other at 111. All three lines end in a brick wall and we are yet to find
>>> the connection. I have inputted both of these additional lines into Legacy
>>> and have started doing research on them. My goal is to figure out where the
>>> three lines intersect.
>>>
>>>
>>> I want to use Hashtags to indicate all of the direct line male ancestors
>>> of all three lines (each line gets its own Hashtag). I started with my
>>> line. My brick wall ancestor is James Simmons born 14 Aug 1764. I went to
>>> SEARCH > FIND > MISC. I created a Focus Group of James' descendants and
>>> then sent that to a Search List. I then changed over to the Detailed Search
>>> tab. My criteria was
>>>
>>>
>>> Male > Surname > Equal to > Simmons
>>>
>>> "Only search the Search List" (this part is important)
>>>
>>>
>>> I have 217 people on my Search List. They are all of James' direct line
>>> male descendants. Next I went to OPTIONS > ADD HASHTAG TO EVERYONE IN LIST.
>>> The name of my Hashtag is
>>>
>>>
>>> Simmons Group - James Simmons Descendants (the desciption field has
>>> "yDNA match - TEST TAKER'S NAME" )
>>>
>>>
>>> I then did the same thing with the other two lines.
>>>
>>> Simmons Group - William Simmons Descendants (yDNA match - TEST TAKER'S
>>> NAME)
>>>
>>> Simmons Group - William Simmons Descendants (yDNA match - TEST TAKER'S
>>> NAME)
>>>
>>> (two different Williams)
>>>
>>>
>>> I have several other Simmons Groups
>>>
>>> Simmons Group - Silver Creek Simmons
>>>
>>> Simmons Group - Balo Chitto Simmons
>>>
>>> Simmons Group - Natchez Simmons
>>>
>>> Simmons Group - Perry County
>>>
>>> Simmons Group - 10&20 Consolidated LA Militia War of 1812
>>>
>>> Simmons Group - 13th Regiment MS Militia War of 1812
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The ultimate goal is to find overlap especially since I have quite a few
>>> Simmons' floating around in my file as unlinked.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> #LegacyFamilyTreeTips
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Michele Simmons Lewis, CG
>>>
>>> Legacy Family Tree
>>>
>>> mich...@legacyfamilytree.com
>>>
>>> www.legacyfamilytree.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Tip of the Day

[Frederick C Buss Jr.]

Who did your Uncle take his DNA with. From Frederick C Buss JR. took 1 at
23 and me and Family tree and Me also MH.

On Sat, Jun 3, 2017 at 2:09 PM, Gene Wheeler  wrote:

> Excellent examples, and food for thought! Thank you!
>
> Gene
>
> On Sat, Jun 3, 2017 at 12:58 PM, Michele/Support <
> mich...@legacyfamilytree.com> wrote:
>
>> TIP OF THE DAY (Legacy Staff) - Fun with Hashtags
>>
>> (Legacy 9)
>>
>> Background information - My uncle took a yDNA test at 111 markers. He has
>> two matches and they both match him at 110 markers and they match each
>> other at 111. All three lines end in a brick wall and we are yet to find
>> the connection. I have inputted both of these additional lines into Legacy
>> and have started doing research on them. My goal is to figure out where the
>> three lines intersect.
>>
>>
>> I want to use Hashtags to indicate all of the direct line male ancestors
>> of all three lines (each line gets its own Hashtag). I started with my
>> line. My brick wall ancestor is James Simmons born 14 Aug 1764. I went to
>> SEARCH > FIND > MISC. I created a Focus Group of James' descendants and
>> then sent that to a Search List. I then changed over to the Detailed Search
>> tab. My criteria was
>>
>>
>> Male > Surname > Equal to > Simmons
>>
>> "Only search the Search List" (this part is important)
>>
>>
>> I have 217 people on my Search List. They are all of James' direct line
>> male descendants. Next I went to OPTIONS > ADD HASHTAG TO EVERYONE IN LIST.
>> The name of my Hashtag is
>>
>>
>> Simmons Group - James Simmons Descendants (the desciption field has "yDNA
>> match - TEST TAKER'S NAME" )
>>
>>
>> I then did the same thing with the other two lines.
>>
>> Simmons Group - William Simmons Descendants (yDNA match - TEST TAKER'S
>> NAME)
>>
>> Simmons Group - William Simmons Descendants (yDNA match - TEST TAKER'S
>> NAME)
>>
>> (two different Williams)
>>
>>
>> I have several other Simmons Groups
>>
>> Simmons Group - Silver Creek Simmons
>>
>> Simmons Group - Balo Chitto Simmons
>>
>> Simmons Group - Natchez Simmons
>>
>> Simmons Group - Perry County
>>
>> Simmons Group - 10&20 Consolidated LA Militia War of 1812
>>
>> Simmons Group - 13th Regiment MS Militia War of 1812
>>
>>
>>
>> The ultimate goal is to find overlap especially since I have quite a few
>> Simmons' floating around in my file as unlinked.
>>
>>
>>
>> #LegacyFamilyTreeTips
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Michele Simmons Lewis, CG
>>
>> Legacy Family Tree
>>
>> mich...@legacyfamilytree.com
>>
>> www.legacyfamilytree.com
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Tip of the Day

[Chris Hill]

My apologies to everyone and I WAS WRONG regarding Legacy.

 

I had confused the _AppData folder within \Users\username\Documents\Legacy
Family Tree\_AppData, which is valid and should be included in backing up
the entire Legacy Family Tree folder, with \Users\username\AppData which is
hidden and should not have any user data but does include save games from at
least 6 different games and caused me to lose my current game when I had to
rebuild my PC.

 

Regards

 

Chris

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
Behalf Of Michele/Support
Sent: 25 June 2017 19:10
To: 'Legacy User Group' 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Tip of the Day

 

Chris, 

The _AppData folder is not hidden.

 

 

Michele Simmons Lewis, CG

Legacy Family Tree

mich...@legacyfamilytree.com 

www.legacyfamilytree.com <http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/>   

 

Certified Genealogist is a registered trademark and the designation CG is a
service mark of the Board for Certification of GenealogistsR, used under
license by Board certificants who meet competency standards.

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2017 2:05 PM
To: 'Legacy User Group' mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> >
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Tip of the Day

 

Using the _AppData folder for any files that relate to the user and their
data SHOULD BE BANNED.

 

I suspect that MicroSoft designed it for internal files relating to
applications, which it does not matter if they are lost, and that is why
they made the folder hidden so that we would not see it. 

 

Of course, we then decide to include it in our backups, because we have an
application which seems to think that putting user data there is a (NOT)
good idea, and have the exercise of finding out exactly which folders we
want to include and which to exclude, especially since some applications
place very large files in their _AppData folders.

 

/rant

 

Regards

 

Chris

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
Behalf Of Denise Moss-Fritch
Sent: 25 June 2017 17:44
To: 'Legacy User Group' mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> >
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Tip of the Day

 

Michele,

 

I was very interested to read the following in your post:

 

> You need to backup your _AppData folder. This folder holds your custom
settings.

 

Has there ever been a feature recommendation to include the _AppData folder
in Legacy's backup system? As important as this folder is I would expect the
folder would have been included as part of the backup long ago.

 

Denise

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Re: [LegacyUG] Tip of the Day

[Cathy Pinner]

Ian,
Are you using saved searches from Legacy 8?
The Search list was reorganised to alpha order in Legacy 9 as the list 
of what could be searched for had grown so long that the supposed 
logical groupings in the previous list were no longer obvious.


This seems to mean that anyone with Saved Searches has to re make and re 
save them.
This isn't something that I have tested as I don't save searches. 
Although I use searches quite a lot, I'm usually searching for different 
things.
But if they are being saved from position in the search list (which 
seems strange) then if the search saved in Legacy 9 isn't loading the 
same search, that would be a bug.
The search items available in Legacy 9 vary slightly depending on what 
Hint sources you have turned on so if in the unlikely event the searches 
are saved by position, they'd always be changing if searching for things 
with starting letter greater than H.


Although several other searches are listed in the official Suggestion 
list, there haven't been any changes to what you can search for in the 
last few updates.


Cathy

Ian Macaulay <mailto:macau...@icmac.ca>
Monday, 26 June 2017 3:40 AM
Perhaps we can ask that they lock in the search tools as well.  I got 
caught again to-day as some upgrade changed the order and searched for 
Story title instead of Surname.   Very distressing to think I may have 
missed a search response.


And No I can't think of a better way for them to keep it in order and 
yet usable, But I can mumble and complain easy enough  :-)


Ian




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Michele/Support <mailto:mich...@legacyfamilytree.com>
Monday, 26 June 2017 2:14 AM

H, I thought for sure that it had been suggested but I don’t see 
it in our tracking system.  Send it through one the suggestion form 
and I will get it added tomorrow.


Michele Simmons Lewis, CG

Legacy Family Tree

mich...@legacyfamilytree.com <mailto:mich...@legacyfamilytree.com>

www.legacyfamilytree.com <http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/>

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is a service mark of the Board for Certification of Genealogists®, 
used under license by Board certificants who meet competency standards.


*From:* LegacyUserGroup 
[mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] *On Behalf Of *Denise 
Moss-Fritch

*Sent:* Sunday, June 25, 2017 12:44 PM
*To:* 'Legacy User Group' 
*Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Tip of the Day

Michele,

I was very interested to read the following in your post:

> You need to backup your _AppData folder. This folder holds your 
custom settings.


Has there ever been a feature recommendation to include the _AppData 
folder in Legacy’s backup system? As important as this folder is I 
would expect the folder would have been included as part of the backup 
long ago.


Denise

Denise Moss-Fritch <mailto:d.mossfri...@comcast.net>
Monday, 26 June 2017 12:43 AM

Michele,

I was very interested to read the following in your post:

> You need to backup your _AppData folder. This folder holds your 
custom settings.


Has there ever been a feature recommendation to include the _AppData 
folder in Legacy’s backup system? As important as this folder is I 
would expect the folder would have been included as part of the backup 
long ago.


Denise

Michele/Support <mailto:mich...@legacyfamilytree.com>
Sunday, 25 June 2017 10:15 PM

TIP OF THE DAY - How to backup the _AppData folder (Legacy Staff)

Legacy 8 and 9

Y'all know my backup routine by now but I actually left something out. 
This part of the routine will be very important if you ever have to do 
a "clean uninstall" which will start you over completely from scratch. 
You need to backup your _AppData folder. This folder holds your custom 
settings. Here is my complete routine...


1) I check to make sure I have no broken media links
2) I check/repair my file
3) I backup my data and media to cloud storage (I keep my backups on 
OneDrive)
4) I backup my _AppData folder and append the name it so that it has 
the same date and time stamp as my data and media backups


The file path to the _AppData folder is \Documents\Legacy Family 
Tree\_AppData


To backup the _AppData folder simply RIGHT click it and select SEND TO 
> COMPRESSED (ZIPPED) FOLDER. The zip file is your backup. You can 
change the name of the zip folder.


I keep my 10 more recent backups and I go in and delete the older ones 
periodically. I backup my file VERY often, sometimes every day. In 12 
years of using Legacy, I have only needed a backup file twice. One 
time I had a hard drive crash and the other time I had made some 
ill-advised global changes to my file that I regretted.


Michele Simmons Lewis, CG

Legacy Family

Re: [LegacyUG] Tip of the Day

[Ian Macaulay]

Perhaps we can ask that they lock in the search tools as well.  I got
caught again to-day as some upgrade changed the order and searched for
Story title instead of Surname.   Very distressing to think I may have
missed a search response.

And No I can't think of a better way for them to keep it in order and yet
usable, But I can mumble and complain easy enough  :-)

Ian

On Sun, Jun 25, 2017 at 2:14 PM, Michele/Support <
mich...@legacyfamilytree.com> wrote:

> H, I thought for sure that it had been suggested but I don’t see it in
> our tracking system.  Send it through one the suggestion form and I will
> get it added tomorrow.
>
>
>
>
>
> Michele Simmons Lewis, CG
>
> Legacy Family Tree
>
> mich...@legacyfamilytree.com
>
> www.legacyfamilytree.com
>
>
>
> Certified Genealogist is a registered trademark and the designation CG is
> a service mark of the Board for Certification of Genealogists®, used under
> license by Board certificants who meet competency standards.
>
>
>
> *From:* LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Denise Moss-Fritch
> *Sent:* Sunday, June 25, 2017 12:44 PM
> *To:* 'Legacy User Group' 
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Tip of the Day
>
>
>
> Michele,
>
>
>
> I was very interested to read the following in your post:
>
>
>
> > You need to backup your _AppData folder. This folder holds your custom
> settings.
>
>
>
> Has there ever been a feature recommendation to include the _AppData
> folder in Legacy’s backup system? As important as this folder is I would
> expect the folder would have been included as part of the backup long ago.
>
>
>
> Denise
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Tip of the Day

[Denise Moss-Fritch]

Thank you Brian and Michele. Just added the feature addition as an optional 
addition (a check box) to include the _AppData in both standard and cloud 
backups.

Denise

-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Brian Kelly
Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2017 11:49 AM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Tip of the Day

I found the issue Michele was looking for and gave her the issue number 
privately. Submit the suggestion anyway, Michele can add this to the issue and 
it might help get the issue raised in priority.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Tip of the Day

[Brian Kelly]

I found the issue Michele was looking for and gave her the issue number 
privately. Submit the suggestion anyway, Michele can add this to the 
issue and it might help get the issue raised in priority.


Brian Kelly

On 25-Jun-17 2:14 PM, Michele/Support wrote:
H, I thought for sure that it had been suggested but I don’t see it 
in our tracking system.  Send it through one the suggestion form and I 
will get it added tomorrow.


Michele Simmons Lewis, CG

Legacy Family Tree

mich...@legacyfamilytree.com <mailto:mich...@legacyfamilytree.com>

www.legacyfamilytree.com <http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/>

Certified Genealogist is a registered trademark and the designation CG 
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under license by Board certificants who meet competency standards.


*From:* LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] 
*On Behalf Of *Denise Moss-Fritch

*Sent:* Sunday, June 25, 2017 12:44 PM
*To:* 'Legacy User Group' 
*Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Tip of the Day

Michele,

I was very interested to read the following in your post:

 > You need to backup your _AppData folder. This folder holds your 
custom settings.


Has there ever been a feature recommendation to include the _AppData 
folder in Legacy’s backup system? As important as this folder is I would 
expect the folder would have been included as part of the backup long ago.


Denise





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Re: [LegacyUG] Tip of the Day

[Brian Kelly]

You are absolutely right that programs should not place things in the 
Windows hidden _AppData folder but Legacy does not use the Windows 
folder. It creates an _AppData folder in the user's documents area where 
it is not hidden.


Brian Kelly

On 25-Jun-17 2:05 PM, Chris Hill wrote:
Using the _AppData folder for any files that relate to the user and 
their data SHOULD BE BANNED.


I suspect that MicroSoft designed it for internal files relating to 
applications, which it does not matter if they are lost, and that is why 
they made the folder hidden so that we would not see it.


Of course, we then decide to include it in our backups, because we have 
an application which seems to think that putting user data there is a 
(NOT) good idea, and have the exercise of finding out exactly which 
folders we want to include and which to exclude, especially since some 
applications place very large files in their _AppData folders.


/rant

Regards

Chris

*From:*LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] 
*On Behalf Of *Denise Moss-Fritch

*Sent:* 25 June 2017 17:44
*To:* 'Legacy User Group' 
*Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Tip of the Day

Michele,

I was very interested to read the following in your post:

You need to backup your _AppData folder. This folder holds your custom 

settings.

Has there ever been a feature recommendation to include the _AppData 
folder in Legacy’s backup system? As important as this folder is I would 
expect the folder would have been included as part of the backup long ago.


Denise





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Re: [LegacyUG] Tip of the Day

[Michele/Support]

H, I thought for sure that it had been suggested but I don't see it in
our tracking system.  Send it through one the suggestion form and I will get
it added tomorrow.

 

 

Michele Simmons Lewis, CG

Legacy Family Tree

 <mailto:mich...@legacyfamilytree.com> mich...@legacyfamilytree.com 

 <http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/> www.legacyfamilytree.com  

 

Certified Genealogist is a registered trademark and the designation CG is a
service mark of the Board for Certification of GenealogistsR, used under
license by Board certificants who meet competency standards.

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
Behalf Of Denise Moss-Fritch
Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2017 12:44 PM
To: 'Legacy User Group' 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Tip of the Day

 

Michele,

 

I was very interested to read the following in your post:

 

> You need to backup your _AppData folder. This folder holds your custom
settings.

 

Has there ever been a feature recommendation to include the _AppData folder
in Legacy's backup system? As important as this folder is I would expect the
folder would have been included as part of the backup long ago.

 

Denise

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Re: [LegacyUG] Tip of the Day

[Michele/Support]

Chris, 

The _AppData folder is not hidden.

 

 

Michele Simmons Lewis, CG

Legacy Family Tree

 <mailto:mich...@legacyfamilytree.com> mich...@legacyfamilytree.com 

 <http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/> www.legacyfamilytree.com  

 

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service mark of the Board for Certification of GenealogistsR, used under
license by Board certificants who meet competency standards.

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2017 2:05 PM
To: 'Legacy User Group' 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Tip of the Day

 

Using the _AppData folder for any files that relate to the user and their
data SHOULD BE BANNED.

 

I suspect that MicroSoft designed it for internal files relating to
applications, which it does not matter if they are lost, and that is why
they made the folder hidden so that we would not see it. 

 

Of course, we then decide to include it in our backups, because we have an
application which seems to think that putting user data there is a (NOT)
good idea, and have the exercise of finding out exactly which folders we
want to include and which to exclude, especially since some applications
place very large files in their _AppData folders.

 

/rant

 

Regards

 

Chris

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
Behalf Of Denise Moss-Fritch
Sent: 25 June 2017 17:44
To: 'Legacy User Group' mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> >
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Tip of the Day

 

Michele,

 

I was very interested to read the following in your post:

 

> You need to backup your _AppData folder. This folder holds your custom
settings.

 

Has there ever been a feature recommendation to include the _AppData folder
in Legacy's backup system? As important as this folder is I would expect the
folder would have been included as part of the backup long ago.

 

Denise

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Re: [LegacyUG] Tip of the Day

[Chris Hill]

Using the _AppData folder for any files that relate to the user and their
data SHOULD BE BANNED.

 

I suspect that MicroSoft designed it for internal files relating to
applications, which it does not matter if they are lost, and that is why
they made the folder hidden so that we would not see it. 

 

Of course, we then decide to include it in our backups, because we have an
application which seems to think that putting user data there is a (NOT)
good idea, and have the exercise of finding out exactly which folders we
want to include and which to exclude, especially since some applications
place very large files in their _AppData folders.

 

/rant

 

Regards

 

Chris

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
Behalf Of Denise Moss-Fritch
Sent: 25 June 2017 17:44
To: 'Legacy User Group' 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Tip of the Day

 

Michele,

 

I was very interested to read the following in your post:

 

> You need to backup your _AppData folder. This folder holds your custom
settings.

 

Has there ever been a feature recommendation to include the _AppData folder
in Legacy's backup system? As important as this folder is I would expect the
folder would have been included as part of the backup long ago.

 

Denise

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Re: [LegacyUG] Tip of the Day

[Denise Moss-Fritch]

Michele,

 

I was very interested to read the following in your post:

 

> You need to backup your _AppData folder. This folder holds your custom
settings.

 

Has there ever been a feature recommendation to include the _AppData folder
in Legacy's backup system? As important as this folder is I would expect the
folder would have been included as part of the backup long ago.

 

Denise

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[LegacyUG] Tip of the Day

[Michele/Support]

TIP OF THE DAY - How to backup the _AppData folder (Legacy Staff)

Legacy 8 and 9

 

Y'all know my backup routine by now but I actually left something out. This
part of the routine will be very important if you ever have to do a "clean
uninstall" which will start you over completely from scratch. You need to
backup your _AppData folder. This folder holds your custom settings. Here is
my complete routine...

1) I check to make sure I have no broken media links
2) I check/repair my file
3) I backup my data and media to cloud storage (I keep my backups on
OneDrive)
4) I backup my _AppData folder and append the name it so that it has the
same date and time stamp as my data and media backups

The file path to the _AppData folder is \Documents\Legacy Family
Tree\_AppData

To backup the _AppData folder simply RIGHT click it and select SEND TO >
COMPRESSED (ZIPPED) FOLDER. The zip file is your backup. You can change the
name of the zip folder.

I keep my 10 more recent backups and I go in and delete the older ones
periodically. I backup my file VERY often, sometimes every day. In 12 years
of using Legacy, I have only needed a backup file twice. One time I had a
hard drive crash and the other time I had made some ill-advised global
changes to my file that I regretted.

 

 

Michele Simmons Lewis, CG

Legacy Family Tree

mich...@legacyfamilytree.com   

www.legacyfamilytree.com    

 

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service mark of the Board for Certification of GenealogistsR, used under
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Re: [LegacyUG] Tip of the Day

[Cathy Pinner]

Yes Open Office does a better 
job,

I was just saying how to make it better in Excel if you don't want to 
also install Open Office.

Cathy




 
   	Michele/SupportTuesday,
 13 June 2017 10:27 PM
  Even if you do that, you will see 
weird stuff in your columns (aside from the prefixes).  It just isn’t a 
100% good thing.  Open Office does a much better job and has no problem 
with pre-1901 dates.  I use Excel for everything else but this.   Michele Simmons Lewis, CGLegacy Family Treemich...@legacyfamilytree.com
 www.legacyfamilytree.com   Certified Genealogist is a 
registered trademark and the designation CG is a service mark of the 
Board for Certification of Genealogists®, used under license by Board 
certificants who meet competency standards. From: LegacyUserGroup 
[mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On Behalf Of Cathy
 PinnerSent: Monday, June 12, 2017 10:25 PMTo: 
Legacy User Group Subject:
 Re: [LegacyUG] Tip of the Day If you are going 
to be using Excel, the easiest work around for the date issue is to 
change the date format in Legacy at Options - Customise 5.1 to 
-mm-dd and then make the Date columns in Excel Number or Text rather
 than Date.You still have problems with the prefixes.CathyMichele/Support
 wrote:
 
   	Cathy PinnerTuesday,
 13 June 2017 10:25 AM
  If you are going to be using Excel, 
the easiest work around for the date issue is to change the date format 
in Legacy at Options - Customise 5.1 to -mm-dd and then make the 
Date columns in Excel Number or Text rather than Date.
You still have problems with the prefixes.

Cathy

Michele/Support wrote:
  
 
   	Michele/SupportTuesday,
 13 June 2017 12:40 AM
  If you are able to sort 
dates correctly in Excel then you are using aworkaround/add on.  You
 have to use a workaround and most of these are tooadvanced for the 
average user.  I tested this again recently using Excel 365which is 
their most updated version.  I could not sort the dates and thedates
 were all mangled.Michele Simmons Lewis, CGLegacy
 Family Treemich...@legacyfamilytree.com www.legacyfamilytree.com
  Certified Genealogist is a registered trademark and the 
designation CG is aservice mark of the Board for Certification of 
GenealogistsR, used underlicense by Board certificants who meet 
competency standards.-Original Message-From: 
LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] OnBehalf
 Of Pete BeattySent: Monday, June 12, 2017 10:36 AMTo: Legacy 
User Group Subject: Re: 
[LegacyUG] Tip of the DayMichele, your current tip contains the 
following: "Excel can't handlepre-1901 dates so you will have a 
problem sorting by columns." Excel Does not have a problem with 
dates prior 1901. It can handle allformats of dates. I have several 
spreadsheets with some having thousands ofrecords with dates ranging
 between 0900 and present. I can sort, and filterall records 
correctly.Perhaps you are referring to dates with prefixes. We 
sometimes think itemssuch as "bef" Or "c" as dates. Technically they
 are not components of adate. When you add them to a date, they are 
interpreted as a characterstring, not a date. As a character string,
 the entries are not sorted as adate.If this is the case, 
then excel can still properly sort. You may have todefine a format, a
 relatively simple process, or perform a simple cleanup.Pete
 
   	Pete BeattyMonday,
 12 June 2017 10:35 PM
  Michele, your current tip 
contains the following: "Excel can't handle pre-1901 dates so you will 
have a problem sorting by columns." Excel Does not have a 
problem with dates prior 1901. It can handle all formats of dates. I 
have several spreadsheets with some having thousands of records with 
dates ranging between 0900 and present. I can sort, and filter all 
records correctly.Perhaps you are referring to dates with 
prefixes. We sometimes think items such as "bef" Or "c" as dates. 
Technically they are not components of a date. When you add them to a 
date, they are interpreted as a character string, not a date. As a 
character string, the entries are not sorted as a date.If this 
is the case, then excel can still properly sort. You may have to define a
 format, a relatively simple process, or perform a simple cleanup.Pete




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Re: [LegacyUG] Tip of the Day

[Michele/Support]

Even if you do that, you will see weird stuff in your columns (aside from the 
prefixes).  It just isn’t a 100% good thing.  Open Office does a much better 
job and has no problem with pre-1901 dates.  I use Excel for everything else 
but this.

 

 

 

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From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Cathy Pinner
Sent: Monday, June 12, 2017 10:25 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Tip of the Day

 

If you are going to be using Excel, the easiest work around for the date issue 
is to change the date format in Legacy at Options - Customise 5.1 to -mm-dd 
and then make the Date columns in Excel Number or Text rather than Date.
You still have problems with the prefixes.

Cathy

Michele/Support wrote:




If you are able to sort dates correctly in Excel then you are using a
workaround/add on.  You have to use a workaround and most of these are too
advanced for the average user.  I tested this again recently using Excel 365
which is their most updated version.  I could not sort the dates and the
dates were all mangled.




Michele Simmons Lewis, CG
Legacy Family Tree
mich...@legacyfamilytree.com <mailto:mich...@legacyfamilytree.com> 
www.legacyfamilytree.com <http://www.legacyfamilytree.com> 

Certified Genealogist is a registered tradema rk and the designation CG is a
service mark of the Board for Certification of GenealogistsR, used under
license by Board certificants who meet competency standards.

-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
Behalf Of Pete Beatty
Sent: Monday, June 12, 2017 10:36 AM
To: Legacy User Groupmailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> >
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Tip of the Day

Michele, your current tip contains the following: "Excel can't handle
pre-1901 dates so you will have a problem sorting by columns."

Excel Does not have a problem with dates prior 1901. It can handle all
formats of dates. I have several spreadsheets with some having thousands of
records with dates ranging between 0900 and present. I can sort, and filter
all records correctly.

Perhaps you are referring to dates with prefixes. We sometimes think items
such as "bef" Or "c" as dat es. Technically they are not components of a
date. When you add them to a date, they are interpreted as a character
string, not a date. As a character string, the entries are not sorted as a
date.

If this is the case, then excel can still properly sort. You may have to
define a format, a relatively simple process, or perform a simple cleanup.

Pete

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Re: [LegacyUG] Tip of the Day

[Ian Thomas]

I had not used Name List (or Marriage List) because of inflexibility (not just 
its lack of sorting of any of the display fields). I would like various subsets 
of names.

Because of that, (in Name List – not Marriage List)  I did not take notice of 
the Optional Fields ‘Born’ and ‘Died’ are compound (Birth Date/Place, Death 
Date/Place) and others – for example, just Birth Date – can be used. (Customise 
button)
Which, of course, makes a more useful CSV export in which partial sorting by 
date is possible (or, with some minor coding, a better sorting) – and makes the 
Tip of the Day meaningful to me.

But of course experienced users knew that already!

Ian Thomas
Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Cathy Pinner
Sent: Tuesday, 13 June 2017 12:25 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Tip of the Day

If you are going to be using Excel, the easiest work around for the date issue 
is to change the date format in Legacy at Options - Customise 5.1 to -mm-dd 
and then make the Date columns in Excel Number or Text rather than Date.
You still have problems with the prefixes.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Tip of the Day

[Cathy Pinner]

If you are going to be using Excel, the easiest work around for the date 
issue is to change the date format in Legacy at Options - Customise 5.1 
to -mm-dd and then make the Date columns in Excel Number or Text 
rather than Date.

You still have problems with the prefixes.

Cathy

Michele/Support wrote:


If you are able to sort dates correctly in Excel then you are using a
workaround/add on. You have to use a workaround and most of these are too
advanced for the average user. I tested this again recently using 
Excel 365

which is their most updated version. I could not sort the dates and the
dates were all mangled.




Michele Simmons Lewis, CG
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mich...@legacyfamilytree.com
www.legacyfamilytree.com

Certified Genealogist is a registered trademark and the designation CG 
is a

service mark of the Board for Certification of GenealogistsR, used under
license by Board certificants who meet competency standards.

-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
Behalf Of Pete Beatty
Sent: Monday, June 12, 2017 10:36 AM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Tip of the Day

Michele, your current tip contains the following: "Excel can't handle
pre-1901 dates so you will have a problem sorting by columns."

Excel Does not have a problem with dates prior 1901. It can handle all
formats of dates. I have several spreadsheets with some having 
thousands of
records with dates ranging between 0900 and present. I can sort, and 
filter

all records correctly.

Perhaps you are referring to dates with prefixes. We sometimes think items
such as "bef" Or "c" as dates. Technically they are not components of a
date. When you add them to a date, they are interpreted as a character
string, not a date. As a character string, the entries are not sorted as a
date.

If this is the case, then excel can still properly sort. You may have to
define a format, a relatively simple process, or perform a simple cleanup.

Pete

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Re: [LegacyUG] Tip of the Day

[Michele/Support]

If you are able to sort dates correctly in Excel then you are using a
workaround/add on.  You have to use a workaround and most of these are too
advanced for the average user.  I tested this again recently using Excel 365
which is their most updated version.  I could not sort the dates and the
dates were all mangled.




Michele Simmons Lewis, CG
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www.legacyfamilytree.com  

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service mark of the Board for Certification of GenealogistsR, used under
license by Board certificants who meet competency standards.

-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
Behalf Of Pete Beatty
Sent: Monday, June 12, 2017 10:36 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Tip of the Day

Michele, your current tip contains the following: "Excel can't handle
pre-1901 dates so you will have a problem sorting by columns." 

Excel Does not have a problem with dates prior 1901. It can handle all
formats of dates. I have several spreadsheets with some having thousands of
records with dates ranging between 0900 and present. I can sort, and filter
all records correctly.

Perhaps you are referring to dates with prefixes. We sometimes think items
such as "bef" Or "c" as dates. Technically they are not components of a
date. When you add them to a date, they are interpreted as a character
string, not a date. As a character string, the entries are not sorted as a
date.

If this is the case, then excel can still properly sort. You may have to
define a format, a relatively simple process, or perform a simple cleanup.

Pete


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Re: [LegacyUG] Tip of the Day

[Retired]

I found the link below which provides a comprehensive discussion of the Excel 
issues with dates and work arounds.

http://www.exceluser.com/formulas/earlydates.htm

I am sure there are other discussions and work arounds.  This was just one of 
the more comprehensive discussions that I found.

Hope this helps.

Jim

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> On Jun 12, 2017, at 8:53 AM, Brian Kelly  wrote:
> 
> There is(or used to be) an Excel Add-on you can install for pre 1900 dates 
> but in its raw form versions of Excel up to 2007 did not understand dates 
> before 1 Jan 1900. Dates were stored internally as the number of days since 1 
> Jan 1900. If your Excel is working for dates before 1 Jan 1900 check your 
> installed add-ons or which tell us which version of Excel are  you using.
> 
> Brian Kelly
> 
>> On 12-Jun-17 10:35 AM, Pete Beatty wrote:
>> Michele, your current tip contains the following: "Excel can't handle 
>> pre-1901 dates so you will have a problem sorting by columns."
>> Excel Does not have a problem with dates prior 1901. It can handle all 
>> formats of dates. I have several spreadsheets with some having thousands of 
>> records with dates ranging between 0900 and present. I can sort, and filter 
>> all records correctly.
>> Perhaps you are referring to dates with prefixes. We sometimes think items 
>> such as "bef" Or "c" as dates. Technically they are not components of a 
>> date. When you add them to a date, they are interpreted as a character 
>> string, not a date. As a character string, the entries are not sorted as a 
>> date.
>> If this is the case, then excel can still properly sort. You may have to 
>> define a format, a relatively simple process, or perform a simple cleanup.
>> Pete
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Re: [LegacyUG] Tip of the Day

[Brian Kelly]

There is(or used to be) an Excel Add-on you can install for pre 1900 
dates but in its raw form versions of Excel up to 2007 did not 
understand dates before 1 Jan 1900. Dates were stored internally as the 
number of days since 1 Jan 1900. If your Excel is working for dates 
before 1 Jan 1900 check your installed add-ons or which tell us which 
version of Excel are  you using.


Brian Kelly

On 12-Jun-17 10:35 AM, Pete Beatty wrote:

Michele, your current tip contains the following: "Excel can't handle pre-1901 dates 
so you will have a problem sorting by columns."

Excel Does not have a problem with dates prior 1901. It can handle all formats 
of dates. I have several spreadsheets with some having thousands of records 
with dates ranging between 0900 and present. I can sort, and filter all records 
correctly.

Perhaps you are referring to dates with prefixes. We sometimes think items such as "bef" 
Or "c" as dates. Technically they are not components of a date. When you add them to a 
date, they are interpreted as a character string, not a date. As a character string, the entries 
are not sorted as a date.

If this is the case, then excel can still properly sort. You may have to define 
a format, a relatively simple process, or perform a simple cleanup.

Pete




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Re: [LegacyUG] Tip of the Day

[Pete Beatty]

Michele, your current tip contains the following: "Excel can't handle pre-1901 
dates so you will have a problem sorting by columns." 

Excel Does not have a problem with dates prior 1901. It can handle all formats 
of dates. I have several spreadsheets with some having thousands of records 
with dates ranging between 0900 and present. I can sort, and filter all records 
correctly.

Perhaps you are referring to dates with prefixes. We sometimes think items such 
as "bef" Or "c" as dates. Technically they are not components of a date. When 
you add them to a date, they are interpreted as a character string, not a date. 
As a character string, the entries are not sorted as a date.

If this is the case, then excel can still properly sort. You may have to define 
a format, a relatively simple process, or perform a simple cleanup.

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[LegacyUG] Tip of the Day

[Michele/Support]

Tip of the Day (Legacy Staff) - exporting as a CSV
All versions (at least since 5)


You can export the Name List and any Search List as a CSV file and then open
that file in a spreadsheet program. I recommend that you use the free Open
Office spreadsheet program and not MS Excel. Excel can't handle pre-1901
dates so you will have a problem sorting by columns. Even with Open Office
you will have some issues with the date qualifiers (abt, bef, aft, bet, cir)
but it will still go much better than in Excel. 

 

If you are going to export to a CSV file, don't bother setting the column
widths before export. A CSV is very generic and no matter how you set the
columns in Legacy you will have to adjust them when you open the file in a
spreadsheet program. 

 

If you need more fields go to Row 2 (and 3) and set them there. If you are
exporting to a CSV these fields will export correctly as additional columns
not "rows." You will see the additional rows if you export in any other way.

 

 

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Re: [LegacyUG] Tip of the Day

[Gene Wheeler]

Excellent examples, and food for thought! Thank you!

Gene

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> TIP OF THE DAY (Legacy Staff) - Fun with Hashtags
>
> (Legacy 9)
>
> Background information - My uncle took a yDNA test at 111 markers. He has
> two matches and they both match him at 110 markers and they match each
> other at 111. All three lines end in a brick wall and we are yet to find
> the connection. I have inputted both of these additional lines into Legacy
> and have started doing research on them. My goal is to figure out where the
> three lines intersect.
>
>
> I want to use Hashtags to indicate all of the direct line male ancestors
> of all three lines (each line gets its own Hashtag). I started with my
> line. My brick wall ancestor is James Simmons born 14 Aug 1764. I went to
> SEARCH > FIND > MISC. I created a Focus Group of James' descendants and
> then sent that to a Search List. I then changed over to the Detailed Search
> tab. My criteria was
>
>
> Male > Surname > Equal to > Simmons
>
> "Only search the Search List" (this part is important)
>
>
> I have 217 people on my Search List. They are all of James' direct line
> male descendants. Next I went to OPTIONS > ADD HASHTAG TO EVERYONE IN LIST.
> The name of my Hashtag is
>
>
> Simmons Group - James Simmons Descendants (the desciption field has "yDNA
> match - TEST TAKER'S NAME" )
>
>
> I then did the same thing with the other two lines.
>
> Simmons Group - William Simmons Descendants (yDNA match - TEST TAKER'S
> NAME)
>
> Simmons Group - William Simmons Descendants (yDNA match - TEST TAKER'S
> NAME)
>
> (two different Williams)
>
>
> I have several other Simmons Groups
>
> Simmons Group - Silver Creek Simmons
>
> Simmons Group - Balo Chitto Simmons
>
> Simmons Group - Natchez Simmons
>
> Simmons Group - Perry County
>
> Simmons Group - 10&20 Consolidated LA Militia War of 1812
>
> Simmons Group - 13th Regiment MS Militia War of 1812
>
>
>
> The ultimate goal is to find overlap especially since I have quite a few
> Simmons' floating around in my file as unlinked.
>
>
>
> #LegacyFamilyTreeTips
>
>
>
>
>
> Michele Simmons Lewis, CG
>
> Legacy Family Tree
>
> mich...@legacyfamilytree.com
>
> www.legacyfamilytree.com
>
>
>
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> a service mark of the Board for Certification of Genealogists®, used under
> license by Board certificants who meet competency standards.
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[LegacyUG] Tip of the Day

[Michele/Support]

TIP OF THE DAY (Legacy Staff) - Fun with Hashtags

(Legacy 9)



Background information - My uncle took a yDNA test at 111 markers. He has
two matches and they both match him at 110 markers and they match each other
at 111. All three lines end in a brick wall and we are yet to find the
connection. I have inputted both of these additional lines into Legacy and
have started doing research on them. My goal is to figure out where the
three lines intersect.


I want to use Hashtags to indicate all of the direct line male ancestors of
all three lines (each line gets its own Hashtag). I started with my line. My
brick wall ancestor is James Simmons born 14 Aug 1764. I went to SEARCH >
FIND > MISC. I created a Focus Group of James' descendants and then sent
that to a Search List. I then changed over to the Detailed Search tab. My
criteria was 


Male > Surname > Equal to > Simmons

"Only search the Search List" (this part is important)


I have 217 people on my Search List. They are all of James' direct line male
descendants. Next I went to OPTIONS > ADD HASHTAG TO EVERYONE IN LIST. The
name of my Hashtag is 


Simmons Group - James Simmons Descendants (the desciption field has "yDNA
match - TEST TAKER'S NAME" )


I then did the same thing with the other two lines. 

Simmons Group - William Simmons Descendants (yDNA match - TEST TAKER'S NAME)

Simmons Group - William Simmons Descendants (yDNA match - TEST TAKER'S NAME)

(two different Williams)


I have several other Simmons Groups

Simmons Group - Silver Creek Simmons 

Simmons Group - Balo Chitto Simmons

Simmons Group - Natchez Simmons

Simmons Group - Perry County

Simmons Group - 10&20 Consolidated LA Militia War of 1812 

Simmons Group - 13th Regiment MS Militia War of 1812





The ultimate goal is to find overlap especially since I have quite a few
Simmons' floating around in my file as unlinked. 





#LegacyFamilyTreeTips

 

 

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[LegacyUG] Tip of the Day

[Michele/Support]

TIP OF THE DAY (Legacy Staff) - What exactly are RINs and MRINs?

(All versions, Legacy 7/8/9 for Legacy Charting and Legacy 8/9 for
FamilySearch)


We get this question all the time. RIN stands for Record Identification
Number and MRIN stands for Marriage Record Identification Number. These
numbers are automatically assigned by Legacy. Legacy is a true database
program (think MS Access) and it needs these numbers to function.


You can include or exclude them from view in Option 8.2. Some people like to
use these numbers as a reference and then tie the number to their paper or
electronic filing system. For example, John Doe [42] - all of John's
documents would be filed under the number 42. Some people prefer to file by
marriage. John Doe and Mary White MRIN 15. All of their family documents
would be filed under number 15. These are only two of many ways you can file
documents.


If you do chose to use the RIN or MRINs as part of your filing system, you
need to turn Option 4.4 OFF. Also, you do not want to go to TOOLS > RENUMBER
RINs or MRINs. If you do, Legacy will compact your numbers which will mess
up your filing system.

 

If you do NOT use the RINs or MRINs as part of your filing system, you can
reuse the numbers (Option 4.4) and renumber them (Tools > Renumber) which
will compact your file. For OCD people like me this is a good option. Having
gaps in my numbers drives me nuts.


Some people will write in because the total number of people in their file
does not match their highest RIN number. These numbers won't match if your
RINs aren't compacted (and don't forget, if you are using these number as
part of your filing system you don't want to compact them).

 

If you want to have certain people on certain RIN numbers you can do that
too under Tools > Renumber. For example, there are some people that want
their direct line ancestors on the RIN that corresponds with their
Ahnentafel number. You have to renumber one person at a time. For me this is
way too much work but you can do it if you want to. 


If you have some of your RINs memorized, there is a shortcut to pull people
up. If you are on the Family or Pedigree Views, you can simply hit the
letter G on your keyboard and a little Go To dialog box will popup where you
can enter a RIN.


In the Multiple Lines of Descent Report you need to know the MRINs of your
starting couples to create this report. By the way, you can turn RINs and
MRINS on and off in Reports depending if you want to see them or not. Click
Report Options and then the Include tab and it is at the bottom of the first
column.

 

If you are on the Name List, you can sort the list by RIN by clicking the #
button at the top left of the screen (you can also sort by Given name or
Surname by using the corresponding buttons at the top). You can also sort
any Search List this same way AND you can sort the Index View this same way.


If you are on the FamilySearch interface screen you can sort by RIN there
too. Under the People field you will see 4 buttons. The first one on the
left is the one you use to sort by RIN, Given or Surname.


If you are in Legacy Charting, if you click the Current Person button on the
toolbar you can sort this list by RIN, Give or Surname in the very same way.


Have fun playing with your RINs and MRINs :) 

 

 

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[LegacyUG] Tip of the Day

[Michele/Support]

TIP OF THE DAY (Legacy Staff) - IntelliMurder and why it is important

All versions (4+)

 

Tools > Advanced Set Living. We (programmers and staff) affectionately call
this feature "IntelliMurder." It will go through your file and kill off
people that are most assuredly dead. Legacy automatically kills people for
you if you enter a birth date but no death date if they are older than
whatever you have set in Option 2.3. IntelliMurder goes a step further. If
you don't have a birth date it will use the surrounding people and other
information to determine if the person should be dead.

So why is this so important? If you do any sort of export and you use
privacy options to privatize living people you will end up privatizing
people from the 1700s that weren't automatically marked as descended. Also,
if you add people to FamilySearch and they are dead but marked as living no
one can see these people except for you.

I run the IntelliMurder routine from time to time just for fun but I always
run it before I do an export. I just ran it and Legacy killed 11 people in
my file. For example, it killed off Carl Friedrich Gläntzer because he was
married on 01 April 1777 and his kids were born in 1779, 1782, 1785, 1788
and 1791.

 

 

Michele Simmons Lewis, CG

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Re: [LegacyUG] Tip of the day

[JV Leavitt]

Thank you very much Michele. I remember using this years ago, but had 
since forgotten about it, and your tip prompted me to do as you 
suggested on my big Leavitt db file (186k records), using Find 
Duplicates - Special Duplicates Searches tab, and was surprised to see 
80 hits! I didn't want to go ahead with the merging without first 
looking at each pair to see what I would be getting myself into, so I 
asked myself how I was going to get to each pair in an efficient manner.


I decided to use the Merge window in a different way to begin, by 
stopping at the first match, and use an option to tag each pair with Tag 
1.  I would then skip to the next hit, and do the same, continuing in 
that way until all 80 pairs had been tagged.


At that point, I had only to open the Name List, and use the Search 
button at the bottom to show all Tag 1s. When I finished with one pair, 
I could use the Search Results List to get to the next un-merged pair. 
This process allowed me to finish the job in a very short time, even 
with going back and forth with FS FT to verify details and do cleanup 
work there, etc.


Have a great day!
Joseph Leavitt


On 5/14/2017 3:32 PM, Michele/Support wrote:


TIP OF THE DAY (Legacy Staff) - "Find duplicates using only 
FamilySearch ID number"


(Legacy 8 and 9)

I ran this search for the first time today. I am not sure why I never 
tried it before. To get to it go to Tools > Merge Duplicates > Find 
Duplicates and then select the "Special Duplicates Searches" tab. The 
second option is the "Find duplicates using only FamilySearch ID number."



I ran the search and found I have 31 pairs of people sharing the same 
FSID. I can see how this could have happened when you consider the 
ability to auto match and FSIDs being merged. I printed a list of the 
31 pairs and went through them. I left the FSID on the correct person 
and deleted the FSID on the wrong person.


Some of the dups I could understand how a mistake could have been made 
but some of them were really off. I need to go back and look at the 
change logs to see who did the merge and then undo them.




Michele Simmons Lewis, CG

Legacy Family Tree

mich...@legacyfamilytree.com 

www.legacyfamilytree.com 

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Re: [LegacyUG] Tip of the day

[Jenny M Benson]

On 14-May-17 11:32 PM, Michele/Support wrote:
TIP OF THE DAY (Legacy Staff) - "Find duplicates using only FamilySearch 
ID number"


(Legacy 8 and 9)


Brilliant tip - thanks, Michelle!

I hardly ever import anyone, preferring to have more control by entering 
everything by hand, so rarely have a need to even look at merging.  I 
found a couple of people who weren't duplicates and 3 who were!  Then 
did the "User ID" version and found I had quite a few people in that 
list - just due to careless typing in data entry, I think.


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[LegacyUG] Tip of the Day

[Michele/Support]

TIP OF THE DAY (Legacy Staff) - Clearing the Quick Bookmarks

(all versions)


Quick Bookmarks are the three fields you see at the bottom of the Family
View. These are a shortcut to get to up to three specific people in your
file. I have one set to myself and then the other two are people I am
working on. To set a Quick Bookmark all you have to do is have the person
highlighted in the Family View and then right click in one of the fields.
Normally you don't have to clear these fields, you simply bookmark over them
(replace one name with another). However, if you want to clear the Quick
Bookmarks all you have to do is hold down the CTRL button when you right
click in the field and that will clear it.





By the way, to the left of the three Quick Bookmarks is a little book icon.
If you right click that icon your bookmark will be saved there. Left click
the icon and you will get a list of the bookmarks you have saved. You can
save up to 200 bookmarks here if the three Quick Bookmarks aren't enough :) 

 

 

 

Michele Simmons Lewis, CG

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Re: [LegacyUG] Tip of the day

[Shirley Crampton]

Thanks Michele.  I think that this illustrates why most of us use family
tree information as clues only.

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>  Thanks for the tip.  I found a duplicate User ID with one a man and
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> TIP OF THE DAY (Legacy Staff) - "Find duplicates using only FamilySearch
> ID number"
> (Legacy 8 and 9)
>
> I ran this search for the first time today. I am not sure why I never
> tried it before. To get to it go to Tools > Merge Duplicates > Find
> Duplicates and then select the "Special Duplicates Searches" tab. The
> second option is the "Find duplicates using only FamilySearch ID number."
>
> I ran the search and found I have 31 pairs of people sharing the same
> FSID. I can see how this could have happened when you consider the ability
> to auto match and FSIDs being merged. I printed a list of the 31 pairs and
> went through them. I left the FSID on the correct person and deleted the
> FSID on the wrong person.
>
> Some of the dups I could understand how a mistake could have been made but
> some of them were really off. I need to go back and look at the change logs
> to see who did the merge and then undo them.
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Tip of the day

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 Thanks for the tip.  I found a duplicate User ID with one a man and the 
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Subject: [LegacyUG] Tip of the day



TIP OF THE DAY (Legacy Staff) - "Find duplicates using only FamilySearch ID 
number" 
(Legacy 8 and 9)


I ran this search for the first time today. I am not sure why I never tried it 
before. To get to it go to Tools > Merge Duplicates > Find Duplicates and then 
select the "Special Duplicates Searches" tab. The second option is the "Find 
duplicates using only FamilySearch ID number."

I ran the search and found I have 31 pairs of people sharing the same FSID. I 
can see how this could have happened when you consider the ability to auto 
match and FSIDs being merged. I printed a list of the 31 pairs and went through 
them. I left the FSID on the correct person and deleted the FSID on the wrong 
person. 
 
Some of the dups I could understand how a mistake could have been made but some 
of them were really off. I need to go back and look at the change logs to see 
who did the merge and then undo them.



 
Michele Simmons Lewis, CG
Legacy Family Tree
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www.legacyfamilytree.com  
 
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[LegacyUG] Tip of the day

[Michele/Support]

TIP OF THE DAY (Legacy Staff) - "Find duplicates using only FamilySearch ID
number" 

(Legacy 8 and 9)



I ran this search for the first time today. I am not sure why I never tried
it before. To get to it go to Tools > Merge Duplicates > Find Duplicates and
then select the "Special Duplicates Searches" tab. The second option is the
"Find duplicates using only FamilySearch ID number."


I ran the search and found I have 31 pairs of people sharing the same FSID.
I can see how this could have happened when you consider the ability to auto
match and FSIDs being merged. I printed a list of the 31 pairs and went
through them. I left the FSID on the correct person and deleted the FSID on
the wrong person. 

 

Some of the dups I could understand how a mistake could have been made but
some of them were really off. I need to go back and look at the change logs
to see who did the merge and then undo them.





 

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Re: [LegacyUG] Tip of the Day

[Sharon Blair]

On the F.A.G. sites I have posted pictures & info I give open permission for 
others to save them - with a caution many times there are pictures & info 
posted from several people I can only give permission for my own. And the 
contributors names do appear.  And I do think people should be more open to 
sharing, to me it isn't just adding numbers but helping people. But I am a 
little selfish in feeling that actual relatives should be given preference over 
strangers just posting stuff for the numbers. I am not in a contest.  Sorry 
about the gripe it's just my thinking.


Sharon Stiles Blair


From: LegacyUserGroup  on behalf of 
Michele/Support 
Sent: Sunday, May 7, 2017 10:47 AM
To: 'Legacy User Group'
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Tip of the Day


If the person has given blanket permission to use the photo it depends on how 
it is worded on whether or not I still email them.  I have an Excel spreadsheet 
where I keep track of all the people I have received permission from.  When I 
ask for permission I ask for not only that photo but any other that they might 
have taken that I find later.  I also tell them that I write for 3 blogs and 
that I might need that photo at some point in a post to make a point.  I always 
tell them that full credit to them will be given to them as the photographer.  
I am yet to be turned down. Most send me an email of thanks for taking the time 
to ask their permission.

If the photo was taken by someone that is now dead, I put in a new photo 
request with an explanation on why I am asking for a new photo.  I have had to 
do that a couple of times and it was no problem at all.





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Behalf Of Junk gmail
Sent: Sunday, May 7, 2017 10:23 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Tip of the Day



Thank you Michele



It is great that you wrote this up for us. The only other step I would add is 
to check the photo submitters profile because there are some that have in there 
profile that users can feel free to use their photo. My Aunt is on of them (she 
has submitted over 500) and I know that she would like not being bothered with 
a request to use one of her photos since it is in her profile.



Barb



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To: 'Legacy User Group'<mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>

Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2017 8:06 AM

Subject: [LegacyUG] Tip of the Day



TIP OF THE DAY (Legacy Staff) - My current project

(Legacy 9)



I have been doing genealogy a long time, long before Find a Grave (or any other 
website for that matter) existed. Back in the day you either visited the 
cemetery yourself or you used a cemetery survey book. I have A LOT of people 
that have a cemetery survey book as a source.

A picture of the actual tombstone is better evidence than a transcription of 
the tombstone in a cemetery survey book so I have tagged everyone in my file 
that uses a cemetery book as a source (easy to do on the Master Source List). I 
am using the tag navigation tool in the extreme bottom right corner of the 
Family View to go from person to person. It looks like this I:2. In this case I 
am using Individual Tag 2. You can navigate by using the forward and backward 
arrows and you can change the tag number by clicking in the center of that 
button.

I am using the new FaG tool to help my find these people on Find a Grave.

1) If there is a FaG memorial with a photo, I add the FaG number to the new FaG 
field, I create a new source and I delete the old one, and I ask permission of 
the photographer to download the photograph to my file. I then untag the person.

2) If there is a FaG memorial without a photo, I request a photo and I untag 
this person but I then tag them on another dedicated tag letting me know that I 
am in a holding pattern. I do not change my source citation. I never use FaG as 
a source unless there is a photograph.

3) If there is no FaG memorial, I add one. I know the person is buried there 
because I have a cemetery survey book that says so. When I create the memorial 
I put full source citation to the book and I request a photo. I then untag them 
from this tag and tag them on the other tag (my holding pattern one). Again, I 
don't change my source, not until I have a photograph.

So what happens if I request a photo and the FaG volunteer advises that there 
is no marker? Then my cemetery book remains the best evidence. Some of t

Re: [LegacyUG] Tip of the Day

[Ian Macaulay]

If you ask the FAG volunteer to take a photo of the spot where the grave
should be (I know not always possible) it will prevent the next hunter from
asking for that photo over and over again.  Some of the volunteers have
unique methods like placing a flag or flowers on the spot and then taking
the photo.


Ian

On Sun, May 7, 2017 at 9:06 AM, Michele/Support <
mich...@legacyfamilytree.com> wrote:

> TIP OF THE DAY (Legacy Staff) - My current project
>
> (Legacy 9)
>
>
>
> I have been doing genealogy a long time, long before Find a Grave (or any
> other website for that matter) existed. Back in the day you either visited
> the cemetery yourself or you used a cemetery survey book. I have A LOT of
> people that have a cemetery survey book as a source.
>
>
> A picture of the actual tombstone is better evidence than a transcription
> of the tombstone in a cemetery survey book so I have tagged everyone in my
> file that uses a cemetery book as a source (easy to do on the Master Source
> List). I am using the tag navigation tool in the extreme bottom right
> corner of the Family View to go from person to person. It looks like this
> I:2. In this case I am using Individual Tag 2. You can navigate by using
> the forward and backward arrows and you can change the tag number by
> clicking in the center of that button.
>
>
> I am using the new FaG tool to help my find these people on Find a Grave.
>
>
> 1) If there is a FaG memorial with a photo, I add the FaG number to the
> new FaG field, I create a new source and I delete the old one, and I ask
> permission of the photographer to download the photograph to my file. I
> then untag the person.
>
>
> 2) If there is a FaG memorial without a photo, I request a photo and I
> untag this person but I then tag them on another dedicated tag letting me
> know that I am in a holding pattern. I do not change my source citation. I
> never use FaG as a source unless there is a photograph.
>
>
> 3) If there is no FaG memorial, I add one. I know the person is buried
> there because I have a cemetery survey book that says so. When I create the
> memorial I put full source citation to the book and I request a photo. I
> then untag them from this tag and tag them on the other tag (my holding
> pattern one). Again, I don't change my source, not until I have a
> photograph.
>
>
> So what happens if I request a photo and the FaG volunteer advises that
> there is no marker? Then my cemetery book remains the best evidence. Some
> of the books I use are quite old and I have found many instances where the
> marker existed in 1925 but it doesn't exist anymore. In that case I will
> make a note on the memorial with a full citation to the book. I add that
> FaG volunteer Jane Doe #12345679 searched the cemetery and found no marker.
>
>
> I started working on this yesterday. I only have 1245 more people to go :)
>
>
>
>
>
> Michele Simmons Lewis, CG
>
> Legacy Family Tree
>
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>
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>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Tip of the Day

[Michele/Support]

If the person has given blanket permission to use the photo it depends on
how it is worded on whether or not I still email them.  I have an Excel
spreadsheet where I keep track of all the people I have received permission
from.  When I ask for permission I ask for not only that photo but any other
that they might have taken that I find later.  I also tell them that I write
for 3 blogs and that I might need that photo at some point in a post to make
a point.  I always tell them that full credit to them will be given to them
as the photographer.  I am yet to be turned down. Most send me an email of
thanks for taking the time to ask their permission.

If the photo was taken by someone that is now dead, I put in a new photo
request with an explanation on why I am asking for a new photo.  I have had
to do that a couple of times and it was no problem at all.

 

 

Michele Simmons Lewis, CG

Legacy Family Tree

 <mailto:mich...@legacyfamilytree.com> mich...@legacyfamilytree.com 

 <http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/> www.legacyfamilytree.com  

 

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From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
Behalf Of Junk gmail
Sent: Sunday, May 7, 2017 10:23 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Tip of the Day

 

Thank you Michele

 

It is great that you wrote this up for us. The only other step I would add
is to check the photo submitters profile because there are some that have in
there profile that users can feel free to use their photo. My Aunt is on of
them (she has submitted over 500) and I know that she would like not being
bothered with a request to use one of her photos since it is in her profile.

 

Barb

 

- Original Message - 

From: Michele/Support <mailto:mich...@legacyfamilytree.com>  

To: 'Legacy User Group' <mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>  

Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2017 8:06 AM

Subject: [LegacyUG] Tip of the Day

 

TIP OF THE DAY (Legacy Staff) - My current project

(Legacy 9)

 

I have been doing genealogy a long time, long before Find a Grave (or any
other website for that matter) existed. Back in the day you either visited
the cemetery yourself or you used a cemetery survey book. I have A LOT of
people that have a cemetery survey book as a source. 


A picture of the actual tombstone is better evidence than a transcription of
the tombstone in a cemetery survey book so I have tagged everyone in my file
that uses a cemetery book as a source (easy to do on the Master Source
List). I am using the tag navigation tool in the extreme bottom right corner
of the Family View to go from person to person. It looks like this I:2. In
this case I am using Individual Tag 2. You can navigate by using the forward
and backward arrows and you can change the tag number by clicking in the
center of that button.


I am using the new FaG tool to help my find these people on Find a Grave.


1) If there is a FaG memorial with a photo, I add the FaG number to the new
FaG field, I create a new source and I delete the old one, and I ask
permission of the photographer to download the photograph to my file. I then
untag the person.


2) If there is a FaG memorial without a photo, I request a photo and I untag
this person but I then tag them on another dedicated tag letting me know
that I am in a holding pattern. I do not change my source citation. I never
use FaG as a source unless there is a photograph.


3) If there is no FaG memorial, I add one. I know the person is buried there
because I have a cemetery survey book that says so. When I create the
memorial I put full source citation to the book and I request a photo. I
then untag them from this tag and tag them on the other tag (my holding
pattern one). Again, I don't change my source, not until I have a
photograph.


So what happens if I request a photo and the FaG volunteer advises that
there is no marker? Then my cemetery book remains the best evidence. Some of
the books I use are quite old and I have found many instances where the
marker existed in 1925 but it doesn't exist anymore. In that case I will
make a note on the memorial with a full citation to the book. I add that FaG
volunteer Jane Doe #12345679 searched the cemetery and found no marker. 


I started working on this yesterday. I only have 1245 more people to go :) 

 

 

Michele Simmons Lewis, CG

Legacy Family Tree

mich...@legacyfamilytree.com <mailto:mich...@legacyfamilytree.com>  

www.legacyfamilytree.com <http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/>   

 

Certified Genealogist is a registered trademark and the designation CG is a
service mark of the Board for Certification of GenealogistsR, used under
license by Board certificants who meet competency standards.

 

 


 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Tip of the Day

[Junk gmail]

Thank you Michele

It is great that you wrote this up for us. The only other step I would add is 
to check the photo submitters profile because there are some that have in there 
profile that users can feel free to use their photo. My Aunt is on of them (she 
has submitted over 500) and I know that she would like not being bothered with 
a request to use one of her photos since it is in her profile.

Barb

- Original Message - 
From: Michele/Support 
To: 'Legacy User Group' 
Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2017 8:06 AM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Tip of the Day


TIP OF THE DAY (Legacy Staff) - My current project

(Legacy 9)

 

I have been doing genealogy a long time, long before Find a Grave (or any other 
website for that matter) existed. Back in the day you either visited the 
cemetery yourself or you used a cemetery survey book. I have A LOT of people 
that have a cemetery survey book as a source. 


A picture of the actual tombstone is better evidence than a transcription of 
the tombstone in a cemetery survey book so I have tagged everyone in my file 
that uses a cemetery book as a source (easy to do on the Master Source List). I 
am using the tag navigation tool in the extreme bottom right corner of the 
Family View to go from person to person. It looks like this I:2. In this case I 
am using Individual Tag 2. You can navigate by using the forward and backward 
arrows and you can change the tag number by clicking in the center of that 
button.


I am using the new FaG tool to help my find these people on Find a Grave.


1) If there is a FaG memorial with a photo, I add the FaG number to the new FaG 
field, I create a new source and I delete the old one, and I ask permission of 
the photographer to download the photograph to my file. I then untag the person.


2) If there is a FaG memorial without a photo, I request a photo and I untag 
this person but I then tag them on another dedicated tag letting me know that I 
am in a holding pattern. I do not change my source citation. I never use FaG as 
a source unless there is a photograph.


3) If there is no FaG memorial, I add one. I know the person is buried there 
because I have a cemetery survey book that says so. When I create the memorial 
I put full source citation to the book and I request a photo. I then untag them 
from this tag and tag them on the other tag (my holding pattern one). Again, I 
don't change my source, not until I have a photograph.


So what happens if I request a photo and the FaG volunteer advises that there 
is no marker? Then my cemetery book remains the best evidence. Some of the 
books I use are quite old and I have found many instances where the marker 
existed in 1925 but it doesn't exist anymore. In that case I will make a note 
on the memorial with a full citation to the book. I add that FaG volunteer Jane 
Doe #12345679 searched the cemetery and found no marker. 


I started working on this yesterday. I only have 1245 more people to go :) 

 

 

Michele Simmons Lewis, CG

Legacy Family Tree

mich...@legacyfamilytree.com 

www.legacyfamilytree.com  

 

Certified Genealogist is a registered trademark and the designation CG is a 
service mark of the Board for Certification of Genealogists®, used under 
license by Board certificants who meet competency standards.

 


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[LegacyUG] Tip of the Day

[Michele/Support]

TIP OF THE DAY (Legacy Staff) - My current project

(Legacy 9)

 

I have been doing genealogy a long time, long before Find a Grave (or any
other website for that matter) existed. Back in the day you either visited
the cemetery yourself or you used a cemetery survey book. I have A LOT of
people that have a cemetery survey book as a source. 


A picture of the actual tombstone is better evidence than a transcription of
the tombstone in a cemetery survey book so I have tagged everyone in my file
that uses a cemetery book as a source (easy to do on the Master Source
List). I am using the tag navigation tool in the extreme bottom right corner
of the Family View to go from person to person. It looks like this I:2. In
this case I am using Individual Tag 2. You can navigate by using the forward
and backward arrows and you can change the tag number by clicking in the
center of that button.


I am using the new FaG tool to help my find these people on Find a Grave.


1) If there is a FaG memorial with a photo, I add the FaG number to the new
FaG field, I create a new source and I delete the old one, and I ask
permission of the photographer to download the photograph to my file. I then
untag the person.


2) If there is a FaG memorial without a photo, I request a photo and I untag
this person but I then tag them on another dedicated tag letting me know
that I am in a holding pattern. I do not change my source citation. I never
use FaG as a source unless there is a photograph.


3) If there is no FaG memorial, I add one. I know the person is buried there
because I have a cemetery survey book that says so. When I create the
memorial I put full source citation to the book and I request a photo. I
then untag them from this tag and tag them on the other tag (my holding
pattern one). Again, I don't change my source, not until I have a
photograph.


So what happens if I request a photo and the FaG volunteer advises that
there is no marker? Then my cemetery book remains the best evidence. Some of
the books I use are quite old and I have found many instances where the
marker existed in 1925 but it doesn't exist anymore. In that case I will
make a note on the memorial with a full citation to the book. I add that FaG
volunteer Jane Doe #12345679 searched the cemetery and found no marker. 


I started working on this yesterday. I only have 1245 more people to go :) 

 

 

Michele Simmons Lewis, CG

Legacy Family Tree

mich...@legacyfamilytree.com   

www.legacyfamilytree.com    

 

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service mark of the Board for Certification of GenealogistsR, used under
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[LegacyUG] Tip of the Day

[Michele/Support]

TIP OF THE DAY (Legacy Staff) - Cloud backup

(Legacy 9)



When you backup to the Legacy Cloud this is in addition to, not instead of,
your regular backup routine. The Legacy Cloud backup gives you an extra
layer of protection. You don't want this to be your only backup because it
only backs up your data file and not your media and it will overwrite the
previous backup so the only backup available will be your most current one.
The advantage to the cloud backup is that you can add this extra backup with
a simple check mark. The backup will be done at the same time with no extra
effort when you make your normal routine backups (and you should be backing
up routinely). The backup is saved to a secure server and no one has access
to it but you.

 

 

Michele Simmons Lewis, CG

Legacy Family Tree

mich...@legacyfamilytree.com   

www.legacyfamilytree.com    

 

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Re: [LegacyUG] Tip of the Day

[Cathy Pinner]

David,

I agree with you - I'd be scared too.
I've passed your suggestion on to the German translators.

Cathy

David Picken wrote:


Thank you, Cathy, for the clarification.

I would be scared to click on „Auf Standardwerte zurücksetzen“
however, because that sounds as if it is going to undo all my personal
settings.
It is also not a translation of „Options for Default Settings“.
Maybe it’s a leftover from an earlier release in which you didn’t have
this function.
My suggestion for a better translation would be:
„Standardeinstellungen verwalten“.

Cheers, David


Am 20170429 um 03:50 schrieb Cathy Pinner mailto:genea...@gmail.com>>:

David
If you click the Auf Standardwerte zurücksetzen (Reset to Standard
Values),
you'll find the other options.

English users also have to click the button "Options for Default
Settings" to see them. I guess the German translators wanted to
emphasise that this button accessed Reset options.

Cathy

David Picken wrote:



Hi,

I have just installed Legacy9 and wanted to apply the trick described
below.

I am using the German version, so maybe there is a translation problem
here …

I assume the Customization screen is the one called „Anpassen“ in German:

At the bottom of that screen I have buttons called:

Speichern (Save), Abbrechen (Cancel), Auf Standardwerte zurücksetzen
(Reset to Standard Values), Hilfe (Help)

I don’t see anything that resem bles „Options for Default Settings“ or
„Save Current Settings as User Defaults“.

Am I looking in the wrong place?

Thanks, David



Am 20170427 um 18:28 schrieb Michele/Support
mailto:mich...@legacyfamilytree.com><mailto:mich...@legacyfamilytree.com>>:

Here is an extra tip for you. Sometimes updates will change a few of
your custom settings which can’t be helped because of programming
changes but what you can do is open the customization screen and at
the bottom click the OPTIONS FOR DEFAULT SETTINGS and then SAVE ALL
CURRENT SETTINGS AS USER-DEFAULTS. After an update you can go back to
this screen and choose RESET TO USER-DEFAULTS. If this is an upgrade,
these settings won’t include any new options that have been added but
in an update it should capture everything. This is available in
version 8 and 9.
Michele Simmons Lewis, CG
Legacy Family Tree
mich...@legacyfamilytree.com
<http://legacyfamilytree.com/><mailto:mich...@legacyfamilytree.com>
www.legacyfamilytree.com
<http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/><http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/>
Certified Genealogist is a registered trademark and the designation CG
is a service mark of the Board for Certification of Genealogists®,
used under license by Board certificants who meet competency standards.
*From:*LegacyUserGroup
[mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com]*On Behalf Of*Linda
Greethurst
*Sent:*Thursday, April 27, 2017 10:54 AM
*To:*Legacy User Group mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
<mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>>
*Subject:*Re: [LegacyUG] Tip of the Day
Just to share: I couldn't see the relationships on my family view
screen even though I had run the tool to set relationships.
Then I realized that when I downloaded Version 9, my customized
setting had reset. I had white text on a white background!!!
Easily fixed - happy again. Love Version 9.
Linda
On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 9:35 AM, Michele/Support
mailto:mich...@legacyfamilytree.com><mailto:mich...@legacyfamilytree.com>>
wrote:



TIP OF THE DAY (Legacy Staff) - The Relationship Report

I am posting this because this is something we see in Support on a
regular basis. The Relationship Report will not work unless you have
set the relationships in Tools > Set Relationships.
Michele Simmons Lewis, CG
Legacy Family Tree
mich...@legacyfamilytree.com
<mailto:mich...@legacyfamilytree.com><mailto:mich...@legacyfamilytree.com>
www.legacyfamilytree.com
<http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/><http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/>
Certified Genealogist is a registered trademark and the designation
CG is a service mark of the Board for Certification of Genealogists®,
used under license by Board certificants who meet competency standards.



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Re: [LegacyUG] Tip of the Day

[David Picken]

Thank you, Cathy, for the clarification.

I would be scared to click on „Auf Standardwerte zurücksetzen“ however, because 
that sounds as if it is going to undo all my personal settings.
It is also not a translation of „Options for Default Settings“.
Maybe it’s a leftover from an earlier release in which you didn’t have this 
function.
My suggestion for a better translation would be: „Standardeinstellungen 
verwalten“.

Cheers, David


Am 20170429 um 03:50 schrieb Cathy Pinner :

David
If you click the Auf Standardwerte zurücksetzen  (Reset to Standard Values),
you'll find the other options.

English users also have to click the button "Options for Default Settings" to 
see them. I guess the German translators wanted to emphasise that this button 
accessed Reset options.

Cathy

David Picken wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I have just installed Legacy9 and wanted to apply the trick described 
> below.
> 
> I am using the German version, so maybe there is a translation problem 
> here …
> 
> I assume the Customization screen is the one called „Anpassen“ in German:
> 
> At the bottom of that screen I have buttons called:
> 
> Speichern (Save), Abbrechen (Cancel), Auf Standardwerte zurücksetzen 
> (Reset to Standard Values), Hilfe (Help)
> 
> I don’t see anything that resem bles „Options for Default Settings“ or 
> „Save Current Settings as User Defaults“.
> 
> Am I looking in the wrong place?
> 
> Thanks, David
> 
> 
> 
> Am 20170427 um 18:28 schrieb Michele/Support 
> mailto:mich...@legacyfamilytree.com> 
> <mailto:mich...@legacyfamilytree.com <mailto:mich...@legacyfamilytree.com>>>:
> 
> Here is an extra tip for you. Sometimes updates will change a few of 
> your custom settings which can’t be helped because of programming 
> changes but what you can do is open the customization screen and at 
> the bottom click the OPTIONS FOR DEFAULT SETTINGS and then SAVE ALL 
> CURRENT SETTINGS AS USER-DEFAULTS. After an update you can go back to 
> this screen and choose RESET TO USER-DEFAULTS. If this is an upgrade, 
> these settings won’t include any new options that have been added but 
> in an update it should capture everything. This is available in 
> version 8 and 9.
> Michele Simmons Lewis, CG
> Legacy Family Tree
> michele@ legacyfamilytree.com <http://legacyfamilytree.com/> 
> <mailto:mich...@legacyfamilytree.com <mailto:mich...@legacyfamilytree.com>>
> www.legacyfamilytree.com <http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/> 
> <http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/ <http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/>>
> Certified Genealogist is a registered trademark and the designation CG 
> is a service mark of the Board for Certification of Genealogists®, 
> used under license by Board certificants who meet competency standards.
> *From:*LegacyUserGroup 
> [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com 
> <mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com>]*On Behalf Of*Linda 
> Greethurst
> *Sent:*Thursday, April 27, 2017 10:54 AM
> *To:*Legacy User Group  <mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> 
> <mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com 
> <mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>>>
> *Subject:*Re: [LegacyUG] Tip of the Day
> Just to share: I couldn't see the relationships on my family view 
> screen even though I had run the tool to set relationships.
> Then I realized that when I downloaded Version 9, my customized 
> setting had reset. I had white text on a white background!!!
> Easily fixed - happy again. Love Version 9.
> Linda
> On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 9:35 AM, Michele/Support 
> mailto:mich...@legacyfamilytree.com> 
> <mailto:mich...@legacyfamilytree.com <mailto:mich...@legacyfamilytree.com>>> 
> wrote:
>> 
>> TIP OF THE DAY (Legacy Staff) - The Relationship Report
>> 
>> I am posting this because this is something we see in Support on a 
>> regular basis. The Relationship Report will not work unless you have 
>> set the relationships in Tools > Set Relationships.
>> Michele Simmons Lewis, CG
>> Legacy Family Tree
>> mich...@legacyfamilytree.com <mailto:mich...@legacyfamilytree.com> 
>> <mailto:mich...@legacyfamilytree.com <mailto:mich...@legacyfamilytree.com>>
>> www.legacyfamilytree.com <http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/> 
>> <http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/ <http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/>>
>> Certified Genealogist is a registered trademark and the designation 
>> CG is a service mark of the Board for Certification of Genealogists®, 
>> used under license by Board certificants who meet competency standards.
> 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Tip of the Day

[Cathy Pinner]

David
If you click the Auf Standardwerte zurücksetzen (Reset to Standard Values),
you'll find the other options.

English users also have to click the button "Options for Default 
Settings" to see them. I guess the German translators wanted to 
emphasise that this button accessed Reset options.


Cathy

David Picken wrote:


Hi,

I have just installed Legacy9 and wanted to apply the trick described
below.

I am using the German version, so maybe there is a translation problem
here …

I assume the Customization screen is the one called „Anpassen“ in German:

At the bottom of that screen I have buttons called:

Speichern (Save), Abbrechen (Cancel), Auf Standardwerte zurücksetzen
(Reset to Standard Values), Hilfe (Help)

I don’t see anything that resembles „Options for Default Settings“ or
„Save Current Settings as User Defaults“.

Am I looking in the wrong place?

Thanks, David



Am 20170427 um 18:28 schrieb Michele/Support
mailto:mich...@legacyfamilytree.com>>:

Here is an extra tip for you. Sometimes updates will change a few of
your custom settings which can’t be helped because of programming
changes but what you can do is open the customization screen and at
the bottom click the OPTIONS FOR DEFAULT SETTINGS and then SAVE ALL
CURRENT SETTINGS AS USER-DEFAULTS. After an update you can go back to
this screen and choose RESET TO USER-DEFAULTS. If this is an upgrade,
these settings won’t include any new options that have been added but
in an update it should capture everything. This is available in
version 8 and 9.
Michele Simmons Lewis, CG
Legacy Family Tree
mich...@legacyfamilytree.com <mailto:mich...@legacyfamilytree.com>
www.legacyfamilytree.com <http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/>
Certified Genealogist is a registered trademark and the designation CG
is a service mark of the Board for Certification of Genealogists®,
used under license by Board certificants who meet competency standards.
*From:*LegacyUserGroup
[mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com]*On Behalf Of*Linda
Greethurst
*Sent:*Thursday, April 27, 2017 10:54 AM
*To:*Legacy User Group mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>>
*Subject:*Re: [LegacyUG] Tip of the Day
Just to share: I couldn't see the relationships on my family view
screen even though I had run the tool to set relationships.
Then I realized that when I downloaded Version 9, my customized
setting had reset. I had white text on a white background!!!
Easily fixed - happy again. Love Version 9.
Linda
On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 9:35 AM, Michele/Support
mailto:mich...@legacyfamilytree.com>>
wrote:


TIP OF THE DAY (Legacy Staff) - The Relationship Report

I am posting this because this is something we see in Support on a
regular basis. The Relationship Report will not work unless you have
set the relationships in Tools > Set Relationships.
Michele Simmons Lewis, CG
Legacy Family Tree
mich...@legacyfamilytree.com <mailto:mich...@legacyfamilytree.com>
www.legacyfamilytree.com <http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/>
Certified Genealogist is a registered trademark and the designation
CG is a service mark of the Board for Certification of Genealogists®,
used under license by Board certificants who meet competency standards.


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Re: [LegacyUG] Tip of the Day

[David Picken]

Hi,

I have just installed Legacy9 and wanted to apply the trick described below.

I am using the German version, so maybe there is a translation problem here …

I  assume the Customization screen is the one called „Anpassen“ in German:

At the bottom of that screen I have buttons called:

Speichern (Save), Abbrechen (Cancel), Auf Standardwerte zurücksetzen (Reset to 
Standard Values), Hilfe (Help)

I don’t see anything that resembles „Options for Default Settings“ or „Save 
Current Settings as User Defaults“.

Am I looking in the wrong place?

Thanks, David



Am 20170427 um 18:28 schrieb Michele/Support :

Here is an extra tip for you.  Sometimes updates will change a few of your 
custom settings which can’t be helped because of programming changes but what 
you can do is open the customization screen and at the bottom click the OPTIONS 
FOR DEFAULT SETTINGS and then SAVE ALL CURRENT SETTINGS AS USER-DEFAULTS.  
After an update you can go back to this screen and choose RESET TO 
USER-DEFAULTS.  If this is an upgrade, these settings won’t include any new 
options that have been added but in an update it should capture everything.  
This is available in version 8 and 9.
 
 
Michele Simmons Lewis, CG
Legacy Family Tree
mich...@legacyfamilytree.com <mailto:mich...@legacyfamilytree.com>
www.legacyfamilytree.com <http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/>  
 
Certified Genealogist is a registered trademark and the designation CG is a 
service mark of the Board for Certification of Genealogists®, used under 
license by Board certificants who meet competency standards.
 
From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Linda Greethurst
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 10:54 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Tip of the Day
 
Just to share:  I couldn't see the relationships on my family view screen even 
though I had run the tool to set relationships.
 
Then I realized that when I downloaded Version 9, my customized setting had 
reset.  I had white text on a white background!!!
Easily fixed - happy again.  Love Version 9.
 
Linda
 
 
On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 9:35 AM, Michele/Support mailto:mich...@legacyfamilytree.com>> wrote:
> TIP OF THE DAY (Legacy Staff) - The Relationship Report
> 
> I am posting this because this is something we see in Support on a regular 
> basis. The Relationship Report will not work unless you have set the 
> relationships in Tools > Set Relationships. 
>  
> Michele Simmons Lewis, CG
> Legacy Family Tree
> mich...@legacyfamilytree.com <mailto:mich...@legacyfamilytree.com>
> www.legacyfamilytree.com <http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/>  
>  
> Certified Genealogist is a registered trademark and the designation CG is a 
> service mark of the Board for Certification of Genealogists®, used under 
> license by Board certificants who meet competency standards.
>  
>  
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Re: [LegacyUG] Tip of the Day

[Ed Ladendorf]

Thanks Michele. These are helpful tips.

On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 11:24 AM, Michele/Support <
mich...@legacyfamilytree.com> wrote:

> Yes, this applies to versions 7, 8, 9.  (Maybe earlier versions too, I
> don’t know when the Relationship Report was introduced).
>
>
>
>
>
> Michele Simmons Lewis, CG
>
> Legacy Family Tree
>
> mich...@legacyfamilytree.com
>
> www.legacyfamilytree.com
>
>
>
> Certified Genealogist is a registered trademark and the designation CG is
> a service mark of the Board for Certification of Genealogists®, used under
> license by Board certificants who meet competency standards.
>
>
>
> *From:* LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Ed Ladendorf
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 27, 2017 12:17 PM
> *To:* Legacy User Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Tip of the Day
>
>
>
> All versions?
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 9:35 AM, Michele/Support <
> mich...@legacyfamilytree.com> wrote:
>
> TIP OF THE DAY (Legacy Staff) - The Relationship Report
>
>
> I am posting this because this is something we see in Support on a regular
> basis. The Relationship Report will not work unless you have set the
> relationships in Tools > Set Relationships.
>
>
>
>
>
> Michele Simmons Lewis, CG
>
> Legacy Family Tree
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> license by Board certificants who meet competency standards.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Tip of the Day

[Michele/Support]

Here is an extra tip for you.  Sometimes updates will change a few of your 
custom settings which can’t be helped because of programming changes but what 
you can do is open the customization screen and at the bottom click the OPTIONS 
FOR DEFAULT SETTINGS and then SAVE ALL CURRENT SETTINGS AS USER-DEFAULTS.  
After an update you can go back to this screen and choose RESET TO 
USER-DEFAULTS.  If this is an upgrade, these settings won’t include any new 
options that have been added but in an update it should capture everything.  
This is available in version 8 and 9.

 

 

Michele Simmons Lewis, CG

Legacy Family Tree

 <mailto:mich...@legacyfamilytree.com> mich...@legacyfamilytree.com 

 <http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/> www.legacyfamilytree.com  

 

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service mark of the Board for Certification of Genealogists®, used under 
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From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Linda Greethurst
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 10:54 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Tip of the Day

 

Just to share:  I couldn't see the relationships on my family view screen even 
though I had run the tool to set relationships.

 

Then I realized that when I downloaded Version 9, my customized setting had 
reset.  I had white text on a white background!!!

Easily fixed - happy again.  Love Version 9.

 

Linda

 

 

On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 9:35 AM, Michele/Support mailto:mich...@legacyfamilytree.com> > wrote:

TIP OF THE DAY (Legacy Staff) - The Relationship Report


I am posting this because this is something we see in Support on a regular 
basis. The Relationship Report will not work unless you have set the 
relationships in Tools > Set Relationships. 

 

Michele Simmons Lewis, CG

Legacy Family Tree

mich...@legacyfamilytree.com <mailto:mich...@legacyfamilytree.com>  

www.legacyfamilytree.com <http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/>   

 

Certified Genealogist is a registered trademark and the designation CG is a 
service mark of the Board for Certification of Genealogists®, used under 
license by Board certificants who meet competency standards.

 

 

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Re: [LegacyUG] Tip of the Day

[Michele/Support]

Yes, this applies to versions 7, 8, 9.  (Maybe earlier versions too, I don’t 
know when the Relationship Report was introduced).

 

 

Michele Simmons Lewis, CG

Legacy Family Tree

 <mailto:mich...@legacyfamilytree.com> mich...@legacyfamilytree.com 

 <http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/> www.legacyfamilytree.com  

 

Certified Genealogist is a registered trademark and the designation CG is a 
service mark of the Board for Certification of Genealogists®, used under 
license by Board certificants who meet competency standards.

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Ed Ladendorf
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 12:17 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Tip of the Day

 

All versions?

 

On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 9:35 AM, Michele/Support mailto:mich...@legacyfamilytree.com> > wrote:

TIP OF THE DAY (Legacy Staff) - The Relationship Report


I am posting this because this is something we see in Support on a regular 
basis. The Relationship Report will not work unless you have set the 
relationships in Tools > Set Relationships. 

 

 

Michele Simmons Lewis, CG

Legacy Family Tree

mich...@legacyfamilytree.com <mailto:mich...@legacyfamilytree.com>  

www.legacyfamilytree.com <http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/>   

 

Certified Genealogist is a registered trademark and the designation CG is a 
service mark of the Board for Certification of Genealogists®, used under 
license by Board certificants who meet competency standards.

 


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Re: [LegacyUG] Tip of the Day

[Ed Ladendorf]

All versions?

On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 9:35 AM, Michele/Support <
mich...@legacyfamilytree.com> wrote:

> TIP OF THE DAY (Legacy Staff) - The Relationship Report
>
>
> I am posting this because this is something we see in Support on a regular
> basis. The Relationship Report will not work unless you have set the
> relationships in Tools > Set Relationships.
>
>
>
>
>
> Michele Simmons Lewis, CG
>
> Legacy Family Tree
>
> mich...@legacyfamilytree.com
>
> www.legacyfamilytree.com
>
>
>
> Certified Genealogist is a registered trademark and the designation CG is
> a service mark of the Board for Certification of Genealogists®, used under
> license by Board certificants who meet competency standards.
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Tip of the Day

[Linda Greethurst]

Just to share:  I couldn't see the relationships on my family view screen
even though I had run the tool to set relationships.

Then I realized that when I downloaded Version 9, my customized setting had
reset.  I had white text on a white background!!!
Easily fixed - happy again.  Love Version 9.

Linda


On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 9:35 AM, Michele/Support <
mich...@legacyfamilytree.com> wrote:

> TIP OF THE DAY (Legacy Staff) - The Relationship Report
>
>
> I am posting this because this is something we see in Support on a regular
> basis. The Relationship Report will not work unless you have set the
> relationships in Tools > Set Relationships.
>
>
>
> Michele Simmons Lewis, CG
>
> Legacy Family Tree
>
> mich...@legacyfamilytree.com
>
> www.legacyfamilytree.com
>
>
>
> Certified Genealogist is a registered trademark and the designation CG is
> a service mark of the Board for Certification of Genealogists®, used under
> license by Board certificants who meet competency standards.
>
>
>
>
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[LegacyUG] Tip of the Day

[Michele/Support]

TIP OF THE DAY (Legacy Staff) - The Relationship Report


I am posting this because this is something we see in Support on a regular
basis. The Relationship Report will not work unless you have set the
relationships in Tools > Set Relationships. 

 

 

Michele Simmons Lewis, CG

Legacy Family Tree

mich...@legacyfamilytree.com   

www.legacyfamilytree.com    

 

Certified Genealogist is a registered trademark and the designation CG is a
service mark of the Board for Certification of GenealogistsR, used under
license by Board certificants who meet competency standards.

 

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