Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

[Brian/Support]

See Tools > Advanced sourcing. Check the Help for that since there are
many options on who you can assign the sources to and where they can be
applied.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
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On 01/04/2015 7:31 PM, Amy wrote:
> When I first started this project I didn't know about "Sources"  I used the
> Notes field to put in where I got the info. Is there a way I can go back and
> add a Source to multiple people at the same time?




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RE: [LegacyUG] Sources

[Kurt Kneeland]

Options -> Set Colors

“Click here to change other user-interface colors…”

“Other Colors” tab





From: Susan Jones [mailto:scjo...@optusnet.com.au]
Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2013 1:04 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Sources



Previously on L7.5 I showed sourced details on Individual view in a different 
colour (red). I can’t seem to locate where to do this on L8.

Susan

Sydney





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Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

[R G Strong-genes]

Cheryl,
You can search the Archives for “Source conversion” and you will find Geoff’s 
message on how to do this. The message is dated Wed, 18 Jun 2008 11:03”58 –0700

I found it by going to the Legacy Home tab and clicked on the Legacy News 
hyperlink then on the next screen on the right hand side in the box for Search 
this Site I entered “Source conversion” then on the search results screen click 
on the second entry “Legacy News: Legacy Family Tree update available 
(7.0.0.55), then in the paragraph talking about the “official” Source 
Conversion tool, there is a hyper link “Click here for the archived message.” 
and it will take you to that message.

From: Cheryl Rothwell
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2014 2:04 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Sources

I started out with Basic Sources. There are still close to 400 of them. Is 
there any way to convert them to Source Writer?

In the alternative, suggestions for redoing them all while retaining the links 
and remaining sane?


--
Russell G. Strong
P. S. Check out Legacy Family Tree today! This full featured genealogy program 
can be downloaded FREE at
http://www.legacyfamilytreestore.com/Articles.asp?ID=133&Click=1114
Oh so many branches and not enough time to check out all the roots!!!.
Check out my Genealogy Pages at http://www.rgstrong-genes.com .


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Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

[Cheryl Rothwell]

Whew! That wasn't so easy to find. Thanks. Do I gather that that was 6
years ago and there is still no "tool"? And probably never will be? Because
this is REALLY time consuming. I'd sure hate to spend all that time and
then one finally comes out.

I wonder if I pulled the file into another program it would be easier to
fix there and then export back.


On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 3:44 PM, R G Strong-genes
wrote:

>   Cheryl,
> You can search the Archives for “Source conversion” and you will find
> Geoff’s message on how to do this. The message is dated Wed, 18 Jun 2008
> 11:03”58 –0700
>
> I found it by going to the Legacy Home tab and clicked on the Legacy News
> hyperlink then on the next screen on the right hand side in the box for
> Search this Site I entered “Source conversion” then on the search results
> screen click on the second entry “Legacy News: Legacy Family Tree update
> available (7.0.0.55), then in the paragraph talking about the “official”
> Source Conversion tool, there is a hyper link “Click here for the archived
> message.” and it will take you to that message.
>
>  *From:* Cheryl Rothwell 
> *Sent:* Friday, May 23, 2014 2:04 PM
> *To:* legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
> *Subject:* [LegacyUG] Sources
>
>  I started out with Basic Sources. There are still close to 400 of them.
> Is there any way to convert them to Source Writer?
>
> In the alternative, suggestions for redoing them all while retaining the
> links and remaining sane?
>
> --
> Russell G. Strong
> P. S. Check out Legacy Family Tree today! This full featured genealogy
> program can be downloaded FREE at
> http://www.legacyfamilytreestore.com/Articles.asp?ID=133&Click=1114
> Oh so many branches and not enough time to check out all the roots!!!.
> Check out my Genealogy Pages at http://www.rgstrong-genes.com .
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

[Cheryl Rothwell]

I find the Basic sources incomplete. Maybe it's me? It would be a LOT
easier to convert to Basic.


On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 5:13 PM, Pat Hickin  wrote:

> I don't think so but personally I do not like SourceWriter and am
> gradually converting my SourceWriter entries to the Basic format.
>
> Pat
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Cheryl Rothwell 
> Date: Fri, May 23, 2014 at 2:04 PM
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Sources
> To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
>
>
> I started out with Basic Sources. There are still close to 400 of them. Is
> there any way to convert them to Source Writer?
>
> In the alternative, suggestions for redoing them all while retaining the
> links and remaining sane?
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

[Nancy Stevens]

I had about 1500 sources when I started using Legacy.  This is my system to
retain links:
(1) Add the source in Source Writer.
(2) Link to the person/event.
(3) Remove the old style version of that source from the person/event.
(4) Old style sources eventually have no more links so every once in awhile
I purge unused sources.
This way the old source is removed at the time the new source is linked.

Like you, I initially wanted to update everything to Source Writer, but
that is a huge job.  So this is the system I came up with to retain my
sanity --
(1)  I always use Source Writer for new sources.
(2)  I always add a Source Writer version if I am reusing an old-style
source (in other words, I never link to an old style source).  If I am
adding a Source Writer version of an old source I do not have to convert
everything from the old source right then.
(3)  I go back and convert sources for a person when I am getting ready to
publish but I only convert the printing sources.

I still have many old style sources in the database but the database is
just for me.


On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 5:19 PM, Cheryl Rothwell wrote:

> I find the Basic sources incomplete. Maybe it's me? It would be a LOT
> easier to convert to Basic.
>
>
> On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 5:13 PM, Pat Hickin  wrote:
>
>> I don't think so but personally I do not like SourceWriter and am
>> gradually converting my SourceWriter entries to the Basic format.
>>
>> Pat
>>
>> -- Forwarded message --
>> From: Cheryl Rothwell 
>> Date: Fri, May 23, 2014 at 2:04 PM
>> Subject: [LegacyUG] Sources
>> To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
>>
>>
>> I started out with Basic Sources. There are still close to 400 of them.
>> Is there any way to convert them to Source Writer?
>>
>> In the alternative, suggestions for redoing them all while retaining the
>> links and remaining sane?
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

[Cheryl Rothwell]

That is more or less what I have been doing. And sometimes I add the
SourceWriter version to the current data and then delete the Basic from
that person.

I do wish I could just deal with genealogy and not all the housekeeping
tasks though. :-/


On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 5:49 PM, Nancy Stevens
wrote:

> I had about 1500 sources when I started using Legacy.  This is my system
> to retain links:
> (1) Add the source in Source Writer.
> (2) Link to the person/event.
> (3) Remove the old style version of that source from the person/event.
> (4) Old style sources eventually have no more links so every once in
> awhile I purge unused sources.
> This way the old source is removed at the time the new source is linked.
>
> Like you, I initially wanted to update everything to Source Writer, but
> that is a huge job.  So this is the system I came up with to retain my
> sanity --
> (1)  I always use Source Writer for new sources.
> (2)  I always add a Source Writer version if I am reusing an old-style
> source (in other words, I never link to an old style source).  If I am
> adding a Source Writer version of an old source I do not have to convert
> everything from the old source right then.
> (3)  I go back and convert sources for a person when I am getting ready to
> publish but I only convert the printing sources.
>
> I still have many old style sources in the database but the database is
> just for me.
>
>
> On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 5:19 PM, Cheryl Rothwell 
> wrote:
>
>> I find the Basic sources incomplete. Maybe it's me? It would be a LOT
>> easier to convert to Basic.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 5:13 PM, Pat Hickin  wrote:
>>
>>> I don't think so but personally I do not like SourceWriter and am
>>> gradually converting my SourceWriter entries to the Basic format.
>>>
>>> Pat
>>>
>>> -- Forwarded message --
>>> From: Cheryl Rothwell 
>>> Date: Fri, May 23, 2014 at 2:04 PM
>>> Subject: [LegacyUG] Sources
>>> To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
>>>
>>>
>>> I started out with Basic Sources. There are still close to 400 of them.
>>> Is there any way to convert them to Source Writer?
>>>
>>> In the alternative, suggestions for redoing them all while retaining the
>>> links and remaining sane?
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

[Cathy Pinner]

There is no easy way.
There won't be a tool as it's impossilbe for Source Detail. The Basic
Format has a free form Source Detail area. How could any conversion tool
know what to put where?

What are you trying to fix? SourceWriter is a Legacy tool so you won't
get it in another program.

If you're happy with the Basic Source, leave them be. A mix is not a
problem. Staying Basic is not a problem if you use it well.
If not slowly convert - a source at a time or a person at a time.
I'm converting some and tidying others. I'm finding that the people I
found first are more poorly sourced than others for two reasons.
1) I was inexperienced when I found my closest relatives both about the
need for sourcing and when I realised that, in understanding the source
references.
2) What was available was often partial transcriptions or lookups from
others.
So I'm going through and where possible checking transcriptions against
images and  updating sources at the same time.

NOTE: When you export to Gedcom all sources are converted to Basic
style. So don't go from Legacy file to a different Legacy file with a
Gedcom. Export to a Legacy file.
People for whom Gedcom is vital as they use it to publish on the web
tend not to bother about SourceWriter sources. I don't think this is an
issue now as Legacy has improved the conversion but I don't really know
as I only use Gedcom to upload a tree to Ancestry and I only upload
basic information with one general source with an ask if you want more.
Cathy
> Cheryl Rothwell 
> Saturday, 24 May 2014 5:58 AM
> Whew! That wasn't so easy to find. Thanks. Do I gather that that was 6
> years ago and there is still no "tool"? And probably never will be?
> Because this is REALLY time consuming. I'd sure hate to spend all that
> time and then one finally comes out.
>
> I wonder if I pulled the file into another program it would be easier
> to fix there and then export back.
>



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Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

[Pat Hickin]

Cheryl wrote, "I find the Basic sources incomplete."

It seem to me that you can make them as complete as you want them to be.
 Just add the info under publication facts -- or on one of the tabs.

Pat


On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 7:07 PM, Cheryl Rothwell wrote:

> That is more or less what I have been doing. And sometimes I add the
> SourceWriter version to the current data and then delete the Basic from
> that person.
>
> I do wish I could just deal with genealogy and not all the housekeeping
> tasks though. :-/
>
>
> On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 5:49 PM, Nancy Stevens  > wrote:
>
>> I had about 1500 sources when I started using Legacy.  This is my system
>> to retain links:
>> (1) Add the source in Source Writer.
>> (2) Link to the person/event.
>> (3) Remove the old style version of that source from the person/event.
>> (4) Old style sources eventually have no more links so every once in
>> awhile I purge unused sources.
>> This way the old source is removed at the time the new source is linked.
>>
>> Like you, I initially wanted to update everything to Source Writer, but
>> that is a huge job.  So this is the system I came up with to retain my
>> sanity --
>> (1)  I always use Source Writer for new sources.
>> (2)  I always add a Source Writer version if I am reusing an old-style
>> source (in other words, I never link to an old style source).  If I am
>> adding a Source Writer version of an old source I do not have to convert
>> everything from the old source right then.
>> (3)  I go back and convert sources for a person when I am getting ready
>> to publish but I only convert the printing sources.
>>
>> I still have many old style sources in the database but the database is
>> just for me.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 5:19 PM, Cheryl Rothwell > > wrote:
>>
>>> I find the Basic sources incomplete. Maybe it's me? It would be a LOT
>>> easier to convert to Basic.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 5:13 PM, Pat Hickin  wrote:
>>>
 I don't think so but personally I do not like SourceWriter and am
 gradually converting my SourceWriter entries to the Basic format.

 Pat

 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Cheryl Rothwell 
 Date: Fri, May 23, 2014 at 2:04 PM
 Subject: [LegacyUG] Sources
 To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com


 I started out with Basic Sources. There are still close to 400 of them.
 Is there any way to convert them to Source Writer?

 In the alternative, suggestions for redoing them all while retaining
 the links and remaining sane?



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RE: [LegacyUG] Sources

[CE WOOD]

AMEN!!!

CE

Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 20:44:22 -0400
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sources
From: pph...@gmail.com
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com

Cheryl wrote, "I find the Basic sources incomplete."
It seem to me that you can make them as complete as you want them to be.  Just 
add the info under publication facts -- or on one of the tabs.

Pat

On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 7:07 PM, Cheryl Rothwell  
wrote:

That is more or less what I have been doing. And sometimes I add the 
SourceWriter version to the current data and then delete the Basic from that 
person.


I do wish I could just deal with genealogy and not all the housekeeping tasks 
though. :-/



On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 5:49 PM, Nancy Stevens  
wrote:


I had about 1500 sources when I started using Legacy.  This is my system to 
retain links:


(1) Add the source in Source Writer.
(2) Link to the person/event.
(3) Remove the old style version of that source from the person/event.

(4) Old style sources eventually have no more links so every once in awhile I 
purge unused sources.
This way the old source is removed at the time the new source is linked.




Like you, I initially wanted to update everything to Source Writer, but that is 
a huge job.  So this is the system I came up with to retain my sanity --
(1)  I always use Source Writer for new sources.
(2)  I always add a Source Writer version if I am reusing an old-style source 
(in other words, I never link to an old style source).  If I am adding a Source 
Writer version of an old source I do not have to convert everything from the 
old source right then.



(3)  I go back and convert sources for a person when I am getting ready to 
publish but I only convert the printing sources.

I still have many old style sources in the database but the database is just 
for me.





On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 5:19 PM, Cheryl Rothwell  
wrote:



I find the Basic sources incomplete. Maybe it's me? It would be a LOT easier to 
convert to Basic.





On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 5:13 PM, Pat Hickin  wrote:




I don't think so but personally I do not like SourceWriter and am gradually 
converting my SourceWriter entries to the Basic format.
Pat


-- Forwarded message --




From: Cheryl Rothwell 
Date: Fri, May 23, 2014 at 2:04 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Sources





To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com


I started out with Basic Sources. There are still close to 400 of them. Is 
there any way to convert them to Source Writer?






In the alternative, suggestions for redoing them all while retaining the links 
and remaining sane?


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Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

[Cheryl Rothwell]

If I add the extra data there does it print out correctly in reports or
would have to edit it later?


On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 8:24 PM, CE WOOD  wrote:

> AMEN!!!
>
>
> CE
>
> --
> Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 20:44:22 -0400
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sources
> From: pph...@gmail.com
> To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
>
> Cheryl wrote, "I find the Basic sources incomplete."
>
> It seem to me that you can make them as complete as you want them to be.
>  Just add the info under publication facts -- or on one of the tabs.
>
> Pat
>
>
> On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 7:07 PM, Cheryl Rothwell 
> wrote:
>
> That is more or less what I have been doing. And sometimes I add the
> SourceWriter version to the current data and then delete the Basic from
> that person.
>
> I do wish I could just deal with genealogy and not all the housekeeping
> tasks though. :-/
>
>
> On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 5:49 PM, Nancy Stevens  > wrote:
>
> I had about 1500 sources when I started using Legacy.  This is my system
> to retain links:
>  (1) Add the source in Source Writer.
> (2) Link to the person/event.
> (3) Remove the old style version of that source from the person/event.
> (4) Old style sources eventually have no more links so every once in
> awhile I purge unused sources.
> This way the old source is removed at the time the new source is linked.
>
> Like you, I initially wanted to update everything to Source Writer, but
> that is a huge job.  So this is the system I came up with to retain my
> sanity --
> (1)  I always use Source Writer for new sources.
> (2)  I always add a Source Writer version if I am reusing an old-style
> source (in other words, I never link to an old style source).  If I am
> adding a Source Writer version of an old source I do not have to convert
> everything from the old source right then.
> (3)  I go back and convert sources for a person when I am getting ready to
> publish but I only convert the printing sources.
>
> I still have many old style sources in the database but the database is
> just for me.
>
>
> On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 5:19 PM, Cheryl Rothwell 
> wrote:
>
> I find the Basic sources incomplete. Maybe it's me? It would be a LOT
> easier to convert to Basic.
>
>
> On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 5:13 PM, Pat Hickin  wrote:
>
> I don't think so but personally I do not like SourceWriter and am
> gradually converting my SourceWriter entries to the Basic format.
>
> Pat
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: *Cheryl Rothwell* 
> Date: Fri, May 23, 2014 at 2:04 PM
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Sources
> To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
>
>
> I started out with Basic Sources. There are still close to 400 of them. Is
> there any way to convert them to Source Writer?
>
> In the alternative, suggestions for redoing them all while retaining the
> links and remaining sane?
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

[Pat Hickin]

I think you can get it to print out as correctly as you can with
SourceWriter -- maybe more so as it's more flexible.

Pat


On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 9:42 PM, Cheryl Rothwell wrote:

> If I add the extra data there does it print out correctly in reports or
> would have to edit it later?
>
>
> On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 8:24 PM, CE WOOD  wrote:
>
>> AMEN!!!
>>
>>
>> CE
>>
>> ------
>> Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 20:44:22 -0400
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sources
>> From: pph...@gmail.com
>> To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
>>
>> Cheryl wrote, "I find the Basic sources incomplete."
>>
>> It seem to me that you can make them as complete as you want them to be.
>>  Just add the info under publication facts -- or on one of the tabs.
>>
>> Pat
>>
>>
>> On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 7:07 PM, Cheryl Rothwell > > wrote:
>>
>> That is more or less what I have been doing. And sometimes I add the
>> SourceWriter version to the current data and then delete the Basic from
>> that person.
>>
>> I do wish I could just deal with genealogy and not all the housekeeping
>> tasks though. :-/
>>
>>
>> On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 5:49 PM, Nancy Stevens <
>> nancystevens4...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I had about 1500 sources when I started using Legacy.  This is my system
>> to retain links:
>>  (1) Add the source in Source Writer.
>> (2) Link to the person/event.
>> (3) Remove the old style version of that source from the person/event.
>> (4) Old style sources eventually have no more links so every once in
>> awhile I purge unused sources.
>> This way the old source is removed at the time the new source is linked.
>>
>> Like you, I initially wanted to update everything to Source Writer, but
>> that is a huge job.  So this is the system I came up with to retain my
>> sanity --
>> (1)  I always use Source Writer for new sources.
>> (2)  I always add a Source Writer version if I am reusing an old-style
>> source (in other words, I never link to an old style source).  If I am
>> adding a Source Writer version of an old source I do not have to convert
>> everything from the old source right then.
>> (3)  I go back and convert sources for a person when I am getting ready
>> to publish but I only convert the printing sources.
>>
>> I still have many old style sources in the database but the database is
>> just for me.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 5:19 PM, Cheryl Rothwell > > wrote:
>>
>> I find the Basic sources incomplete. Maybe it's me? It would be a LOT
>> easier to convert to Basic.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 5:13 PM, Pat Hickin  wrote:
>>
>> I don't think so but personally I do not like SourceWriter and am
>> gradually converting my SourceWriter entries to the Basic format.
>>
>> Pat
>>
>> -- Forwarded message --
>> From: *Cheryl Rothwell* 
>> Date: Fri, May 23, 2014 at 2:04 PM
>> Subject: [LegacyUG] Sources
>> To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
>>
>>
>> I started out with Basic Sources. There are still close to 400 of them.
>> Is there any way to convert them to Source Writer?
>>
>> In the alternative, suggestions for redoing them all while retaining the
>> links and remaining sane?
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

[Jenny M Benson]

On 03/09/2014 08:09, June wrote:
> I have been using Legacy for many years as a record for me and my
> children of our family history.
>
> I have never used sources, instead putting information into notes, or
> even adding events – for example I have an event ‘Education’ then have
> added an event ‘About Education’ where I just put notes.
>
> Given what I am using Legacy for, I am wondering if there is any point
> in adding sources and if so what is the benefit, or for what I need are
> events and notes sufficient.
>
> I do realise at the end of the day that it is going to be a personal
> choice, but I would be interesting to hear from people why I would
> benefit from putting sources.
>
> I am happy to have emails sent directly to me rather than the list if
> this is the preferred method of contact.
>

If your method is working for you and you are quite happy, why change?

But a couple of things to consider are:

1  Are you recording enough Notes to enable you to find a particular
record again if you need to do so?

2  Are you ever going to want to pass on the results of your research to
other people?  If so, are you providing enough information for them to
be able to verify your research if they wish to do so?  And will other
people take your research seriously if it is not documented in a more
conventional way?

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RE: [LegacyUG] Sources

[June]

Thanks for the swift reply Jenny. Yes I think that the majority of things will 
be able to be found again. I've taken a few things from google maps which I 
haven't documented, but all documents (births, deaths, marriages and census) 
are noted and people should be able to find them, although I admit that with 
say a census I just put the address, date, and description without putting all 
the bits and pieces that are probably on the enumerators page, and with for 
example a record of a birth I don't put exactly what page it is from although I 
do note that it is from (for example) West Yorkshire Parish Records, Parish of 
Tadcaster, Yorkshire, England 1700 - 1800.

So Thinking on what you have asked me - yes I or someone could find the record 
but if I am going to do it this way then I probably need to add a little more 
information such as page numbers etc.

The only thing is whether a researcher would take it seriously - I'm not sure 
that I would want to change a way I am comfortable with for researchers, 
although would if my children or best friend could find where I had found the 
information.

Thank you Jenny, you've actually helped me to work out the pros and cons.

Kind regardsJune


-Original Message-
From: Jenny M Benson [mailto:ge...@cedarbank.me.uk]
Sent: Wednesday, 3 September 2014 6:52 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

On 03/09/2014 08:09, June wrote:
> I have been using Legacy for many years as a record for me and my
> children of our family history.
>
> I have never used sources, instead putting information into notes, or
> even adding events – for example I have an event ‘Education’ then have
> added an event ‘About Education’ where I just put notes.
>
> Given what I am using Legacy for, I am wondering if there is any point
> in adding sources and if so what is the benefit, or for what I need
> are events and notes sufficient.
>
> I do realise at the end of the day that it is going to be a personal
> choice, but I would be interesting to hear from people why I would
> benefit from putting sources.
>
> I am happy to have emails sent directly to me rather than the list if
> this is the preferred method of contact.
>

If your method is working for you and you are quite happy, why change?

But a couple of things to consider are:

1  Are you recording enough Notes to enable you to find a particular record 
again if you need to do so?

2  Are you ever going to want to pass on the results of your research to other 
people?  If so, are you providing enough information for them to be able to 
verify your research if they wish to do so?  And will other people take your 
research seriously if it is not documented in a more conventional way?

--
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Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

[Ward Walker]

Keep in mind how verbose the reports become when you put a lot of source
details into notes. I received a large file of one of my family lines, and
that researcher had mostly documented sources in the notes, including
detailed family lists from censuses. Some sources were even duplicated
further down in the same, long note. I prefer that the notes describe the
situation in concise, readable, summary language, with the sources available
as back up. Now, unfortunately, I have a mixture of styles. I suggest that
you generate a Descendant Narrative Book Report to see how your notes affect
the narrative.

   Ward

-Original Message-
From: June
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 5:34 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Sources

Thanks for the swift reply Jenny. Yes I think that the majority of things
will be able to be found again. I've taken a few things from google maps
which I haven't documented, but all documents (births, deaths, marriages and
census) are noted and people should be able to find them, although I admit
that with say a census I just put the address, date, and description without
putting all the bits and pieces that are probably on the enumerators page,
and with for example a record of a birth I don't put exactly what page it is
from although I do note that it is from (for example) West Yorkshire Parish
Records, Parish of Tadcaster, Yorkshire, England 1700 - 1800.

So Thinking on what you have asked me - yes I or someone could find the
record but if I am going to do it this way then I probably need to add a
little more information such as page numbers etc.

The only thing is whether a researcher would take it seriously - I'm not
sure that I would want to change a way I am comfortable with for
researchers, although would if my children or best friend could find where I
had found the information.

Thank you Jenny, you've actually helped me to work out the pros and cons.

Kind regardsJune


-Original Message-
From: Jenny M Benson [mailto:ge...@cedarbank.me.uk]
Sent: Wednesday, 3 September 2014 6:52 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

On 03/09/2014 08:09, June wrote:
> I have been using Legacy for many years as a record for me and my
> children of our family history.
>
> I have never used sources, instead putting information into notes, or
> even adding events – for example I have an event ‘Education’ then have
> added an event ‘About Education’ where I just put notes.
>
> Given what I am using Legacy for, I am wondering if there is any point
> in adding sources and if so what is the benefit, or for what I need
> are events and notes sufficient.
>
> I do realise at the end of the day that it is going to be a personal
> choice, but I would be interesting to hear from people why I would
> benefit from putting sources.
>
> I am happy to have emails sent directly to me rather than the list if
> this is the preferred method of contact.
>

If your method is working for you and you are quite happy, why change?

But a couple of things to consider are:

1  Are you recording enough Notes to enable you to find a particular record
again if you need to do so?

2  Are you ever going to want to pass on the results of your research to
other people?  If so, are you providing enough information for them to be
able to verify your research if they wish to do so?  And will other people
take your research seriously if it is not documented in a more conventional
way?

--
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Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

[JLB]

Either or both.

Depending what it is it would go under the Picture tab of the Master
Source or the multimedia tab of Source Detail.

For instance, a census record probably belongs to one family so I would
link that to the Multimedia tab for Source Detail.

If it was a Master Source, (the way I define that would be something
like a cemetery listing of multiple families) I would link it to the
Pictures tab of that Master Source.

I guess it depends how to do your sources. If create a different Master
Source for every single census record, then it would be Master Source.

If you look at the Assigned Sources window for someone/anyone and click
on the Pictures tab, you'll see there's two areas there; one called
Master Source Picture and one called Source Detail Picture. If it's a
picture it's a picture. If it's a document, as you've described it, it
shows up as document-looking icon.
---
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On 7/30/2012 7:14 PM, RUNION ROBERT wrote:
> What is the recommended procedure to add source documentation.  Should a 
> scanned document (.pdf, .doc, .xls, etc) be added as a Multimedia 'file' 
> under the event detail, or should the scanned document be added under the 
> master source as a 'file'?
>
> Bob
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Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

[Jenny M Benson]

RUNION ROBERT wrote:
> What is the recommended procedure to add source documentation.  Should a
> scanned document (.pdf, .doc, .xls, etc) be added as a Multimedia 'file'
> under the event detail, or should the scanned document be added under the
> master source as a 'file'?
>

It depends on the nature of the document and the way you have set up your
Master Source.

I have one Master Source for all Birth Certificates from a particular
county Register Office.  Each Birth Certificate scan is attached to the
Source Detail.

There was a biographical pamphlet published about my Great Grandfather.
This has it's own Master Soure and the scan of the pamphlet is attached to
the Master Source.  (Source Detail might refer to a particular fact on a
particular page, in which case the relevant text is copied into the Source
Detail Text field.)

--
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Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

[Robert Runion]

Thanks for the insight. Some of my scanned documents are cemetery listings and 
census data as you state and I add those to the Master source as a 'file', 
rather than a 'picture'. I presume that the entry as a Master Source 'file' 
would not show as an icon in any subsequent book I might print? But, if I 
inadvertently added it as a 'picture', in lieu of a 'file' (I had this happen 
some years ago), the item icon showed along with the 'real' pictures in the 
resultant book print.  A bummer. So far, adding scanned documentation (as 
opposed to scanned or digital photos which I add as a 'picture' ) as a 'file' 
appears to be preferable since the copy/paste function for subsequent entries 
carries the detail sourcing data along to each entry.

Bob


On Jul 30, 2012, at 10:23 PM, JLB wrote:

> Either or both.
>
> Depending what it is it would go under the Picture tab of the Master
> Source or the multimedia tab of Source Detail.
>
> For instance, a census record probably belongs to one family so I would
> link that to the Multimedia tab for Source Detail.
>
> If it was a Master Source, (the way I define that would be something
> like a cemetery listing of multiple families) I would link it to the
> Pictures tab of that Master Source.
>
> I guess it depends how to do your sources. If create a different Master
> Source for every single census record, then it would be Master Source.
>
> If you look at the Assigned Sources window for someone/anyone and click
> on the Pictures tab, you'll see there's two areas there; one called
> Master Source Picture and one called Source Detail Picture. If it's a
> picture it's a picture. If it's a document, as you've described it, it
> shows up as document-looking icon.
> ---
> JL Beeken
> JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
> http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/
>
> On 7/30/2012 7:14 PM, RUNION ROBERT wrote:
>> What is the recommended procedure to add source documentation.  Should a 
>> scanned document (.pdf, .doc, .xls, etc) be added as a Multimedia 'file' 
>> under the event detail, or should the scanned document be added under the 
>> master source as a 'file'?
>>
>> Bob
>>
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

[Robert Runion]

Jenny - Your method appears to be pretty much what I do - a master source 
'file' for the County/State birth certificates source and a detail 'file' for 
the individual birth certificate. Under this method, there would be two sources 
attached to a single person. This method appeals to me because it links where 
the data was obtained and preserves an 'image' of the data for visual review of 
where and when I obtained the information.

Bob

On Jul 31, 2012, at 4:06 AM, Jenny M Benson wrote:

>
> RUNION ROBERT wrote:
>> What is the recommended procedure to add source documentation.  Should a
>> scanned document (.pdf, .doc, .xls, etc) be added as a Multimedia 'file'
>> under the event detail, or should the scanned document be added under the
>> master source as a 'file'?
>>
>
> It depends on the nature of the document and the way you have set up your
> Master Source.
>
> I have one Master Source for all Birth Certificates from a particular
> county Register Office.  Each Birth Certificate scan is attached to the
> Source Detail.
>
> There was a biographical pamphlet published about my Great Grandfather.
> This has it's own Master Soure and the scan of the pamphlet is attached to
> the Master Source.  (Source Detail might refer to a particular fact on a
> particular page, in which case the relevant text is copied into the Source
> Detail Text field.)
>
> --
> Jenny M Benson
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Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

[JLB]

I think you'd have to experiment with the printing options here. They
may have changed since my day. I know there was/is? a way to print
source document thumbnails in reports but I didn't think it would be
useful for a reader so I didn't bother with it.

There was a time when there was no such thing as a 'File' icon. Document
formats were linked through the Picture icon. It created major havoc
when the File icon arrived as all the document files were automatically
unlinked because they weren't an image format.

I'm talking to you from my memory as I no longer attach anything to
Legacy except little portraits for the people I have portraits for. It's
way too labour-intensive considering I can access any file in a
nano-second through my filing system.
---
JL Beeken
JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/

On 7/31/2012 3:45 AM, Robert Runion wrote:
> Thanks for the insight. Some of my scanned documents are cemetery
> listings and census data as you state and I add those to the Master
> source as a 'file', rather than a 'picture'. I presume that the entry
> as a Master Source 'file' would not show as an icon in any subsequent
> book I might print? But, if I inadvertently added it as a 'picture',
> in lieu of a 'file' (I had this happen some years ago), the item icon
> showed along with the 'real' pictures in the resultant book print.  A
> bummer. So far, adding scanned documentation (as opposed to scanned
> or digital photos which I add as a 'picture' ) as a 'file' appears to
> be preferable since the copy/paste function for subsequent entries
> carries the detail sourcing data along to each entry.
>
> Bob
>
>
> On Jul 30, 2012, at 10:23 PM, JLB wrote:
>
>> Either or both.
>>
>> Depending what it is it would go under the Picture tab of the
>> Master Source or the multimedia tab of Source Detail.
>>
>> For instance, a census record probably belongs to one family so I
>> would link that to the Multimedia tab for Source Detail.
>>
>> If it was a Master Source, (the way I define that would be
>> something like a cemetery listing of multiple families) I would
>> link it to the Pictures tab of that Master Source.
>>
>> I guess it depends how to do your sources. If create a different
>> Master Source for every single census record, then it would be
>> Master Source.
>>
>> If you look at the Assigned Sources window for someone/anyone and
>> click on the Pictures tab, you'll see there's two areas there; one
>> called Master Source Picture and one called Source Detail Picture.
>> If it's a picture it's a picture. If it's a document, as you've
>> described it, it shows up as document-looking icon. --- JL Beeken
>> JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
>> http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/
>>
>> On 7/30/2012 7:14 PM, RUNION ROBERT wrote:
>>> What is the recommended procedure to add source documentation.
>>> Should a scanned document (.pdf, .doc, .xls, etc) be added as a
>>> Multimedia 'file' under the event detail, or should the scanned
>>> document be added under the master source as a 'file'?
>>>
>>> Bob
>>>
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RE: [LegacyUG] Sources

[Judith]

"I'm talking to you from my memory as I no longer attach anything to Legacy 
except little portraits for the people I have portraits for. It's way too 
labour-intensive considering I can access any file in a nano-second through my 
filing system".

I agree, also, if you move a file in your filing system, it drops out of legacy 
and creates a problem.  Better to keep them in the filing system for fast 
access.
Judith

-Original Message-
From: JLB [mailto:j...@jgen.ws]
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 10:49 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

I think you'd have to experiment with the printing options here. They may have 
changed since my day. I know there was/is? a way to print source document 
thumbnails in reports but I didn't think it would be useful for a reader so I 
didn't bother with it.

There was a time when there was no such thing as a 'File' icon. Document 
formats were linked through the Picture icon. It created major havoc when the 
File icon arrived as all the document files were automatically unlinked because 
they weren't an image format.

I'm talking to you from my memory as I no longer attach anything to Legacy 
except little portraits for the people I have portraits for. It's way too 
labour-intensive considering I can access any file in a nano-second through my 
filing system.
---
JL Beeken
JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/

On 7/31/2012 3:45 AM, Robert Runion wrote:
> Thanks for the insight. Some of my scanned documents are cemetery
> listings and census data as you state and I add those to the Master
> source as a 'file', rather than a 'picture'. I presume that the entry
> as a Master Source 'file' would not show as an icon in any subsequent
> book I might print? But, if I inadvertently added it as a 'picture',
> in lieu of a 'file' (I had this happen some years ago), the item icon
> showed along with the 'real' pictures in the resultant book print.  A
> bummer. So far, adding scanned documentation (as opposed to scanned or
> digital photos which I add as a 'picture' ) as a 'file' appears to be
> preferable since the copy/paste function for subsequent entries
> carries the detail sourcing data along to each entry.
>
> Bob
>
>
> On Jul 30, 2012, at 10:23 PM, JLB wrote:
>
>> Either or both.
>>
>> Depending what it is it would go under the Picture tab of the Master
>> Source or the multimedia tab of Source Detail.
>>
>> For instance, a census record probably belongs to one family so I
>> would link that to the Multimedia tab for Source Detail.
>>
>> If it was a Master Source, (the way I define that would be something
>> like a cemetery listing of multiple families) I would link it to the
>> Pictures tab of that Master Source.
>>
>> I guess it depends how to do your sources. If create a different
>> Master Source for every single census record, then it would be Master
>> Source.
>>
>> If you look at the Assigned Sources window for someone/anyone and
>> click on the Pictures tab, you'll see there's two areas there; one
>> called Master Source Picture and one called Source Detail Picture.
>> If it's a picture it's a picture. If it's a document, as you've
>> described it, it shows up as document-looking icon. --- JL Beeken
>> JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
>> http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/
>>
>> On 7/30/2012 7:14 PM, RUNION ROBERT wrote:
>>> What is the recommended procedure to add source documentation.
>>> Should a scanned document (.pdf, .doc, .xls, etc) be added as a
>>> Multimedia 'file' under the event detail, or should the scanned
>>> document be added under the master source as a 'file'?
>>>
>>> Bob
>>>
>>>
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>>> after Nov. 21 2009:
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>>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

[JLB]

If it was possible to drag and drop source documents in I might be
tempted but I tried it and it doesn't work. Consequently, it's endless
browsing and re-browsing and checking to make sure everything's there
and it only took me about six years to get around to wondering why I was
bothering with it.
---

JL Beeken
JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/

On 7/31/2012 11:24 AM, Judith wrote:
> "I'm talking to you from my memory as I no longer attach anything to Legacy 
> except little portraits for the people I have portraits for. It's way too 
> labour-intensive considering I can access any file in a nano-second through 
> my filing system".
>
> I agree, also, if you move a file in your filing system, it drops out of 
> legacy and creates a problem.  Better to keep them in the filing system for 
> fast access.
> Judith
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JLB [mailto:j...@jgen.ws]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 10:49 AM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sources
>
> I think you'd have to experiment with the printing options here. They may 
> have changed since my day. I know there was/is? a way to print source 
> document thumbnails in reports but I didn't think it would be useful for a 
> reader so I didn't bother with it.
>
> There was a time when there was no such thing as a 'File' icon. Document 
> formats were linked through the Picture icon. It created major havoc when the 
> File icon arrived as all the document files were automatically unlinked 
> because they weren't an image format.
>
> I'm talking to you from my memory as I no longer attach anything to Legacy 
> except little portraits for the people I have portraits for. It's way too 
> labour-intensive considering I can access any file in a nano-second through 
> my filing system.
> ---
> JL Beeken
> JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/
>
> On 7/31/2012 3:45 AM, Robert Runion wrote:
>> Thanks for the insight. Some of my scanned documents are cemetery
>> listings and census data as you state and I add those to the Master
>> source as a 'file', rather than a 'picture'. I presume that the entry
>> as a Master Source 'file' would not show as an icon in any subsequent
>> book I might print? But, if I inadvertently added it as a 'picture',
>> in lieu of a 'file' (I had this happen some years ago), the item icon
>> showed along with the 'real' pictures in the resultant book print.  A
>> bummer. So far, adding scanned documentation (as opposed to scanned or
>> digital photos which I add as a 'picture' ) as a 'file' appears to be
>> preferable since the copy/paste function for subsequent entries
>> carries the detail sourcing data along to each entry.
>>
>> Bob
>>
>>
>> On Jul 30, 2012, at 10:23 PM, JLB wrote:
>>
>>> Either or both.
>>>
>>> Depending what it is it would go under the Picture tab of the Master
>>> Source or the multimedia tab of Source Detail.
>>>
>>> For instance, a census record probably belongs to one family so I
>>> would link that to the Multimedia tab for Source Detail.
>>>
>>> If it was a Master Source, (the way I define that would be something
>>> like a cemetery listing of multiple families) I would link it to the
>>> Pictures tab of that Master Source.
>>>
>>> I guess it depends how to do your sources. If create a different
>>> Master Source for every single census record, then it would be Master
>>> Source.
>>>
>>> If you look at the Assigned Sources window for someone/anyone and
>>> click on the Pictures tab, you'll see there's two areas there; one
>>> called Master Source Picture and one called Source Detail Picture.
>>> If it's a picture it's a picture. If it's a document, as you've
>>> described it, it shows up as document-looking icon. --- JL Beeken
>>> JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
>>> http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/
>>>
>>> On 7/30/2012 7:14 PM, RUNION ROBERT wrote:
>>>> What is the recommended procedure to add source documentation.
>>>> Should a scanned document (.pdf, .doc, .xls, etc) be added as a
>>>> Multimedia 'file' under the event detail, or should the scanned
>>>> document be added under the master source as a 'file'?
>>>>
>>>> Bob
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Legacy User 

Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

[JLB]

Excuse me on the last reply. It does indeed seem to be possible. I tried
10 times on a census record and it wouldn't work. Funny, as it works on
small portraits. With some persistence, it suddenly worked on the census
record. There you go! Don't browse, just drag and drop.
---
JL Beeken
JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/

On 7/31/2012 11:24 AM, Judith wrote:
> "I'm talking to you from my memory as I no longer attach anything to Legacy 
> except little portraits for the people I have portraits for. It's way too 
> labour-intensive considering I can access any file in a nano-second through 
> my filing system".
>
> I agree, also, if you move a file in your filing system, it drops out of 
> legacy and creates a problem.  Better to keep them in the filing system for 
> fast access.
> Judith
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JLB [mailto:j...@jgen.ws]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 10:49 AM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sources
>
> I think you'd have to experiment with the printing options here. They may 
> have changed since my day. I know there was/is? a way to print source 
> document thumbnails in reports but I didn't think it would be useful for a 
> reader so I didn't bother with it.
>
> There was a time when there was no such thing as a 'File' icon. Document 
> formats were linked through the Picture icon. It created major havoc when the 
> File icon arrived as all the document files were automatically unlinked 
> because they weren't an image format.
>
> I'm talking to you from my memory as I no longer attach anything to Legacy 
> except little portraits for the people I have portraits for. It's way too 
> labour-intensive considering I can access any file in a nano-second through 
> my filing system.
> ---
> JL Beeken
> JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/
>
> On 7/31/2012 3:45 AM, Robert Runion wrote:
>> Thanks for the insight. Some of my scanned documents are cemetery
>> listings and census data as you state and I add those to the Master
>> source as a 'file', rather than a 'picture'. I presume that the entry
>> as a Master Source 'file' would not show as an icon in any subsequent
>> book I might print? But, if I inadvertently added it as a 'picture',
>> in lieu of a 'file' (I had this happen some years ago), the item icon
>> showed along with the 'real' pictures in the resultant book print.  A
>> bummer. So far, adding scanned documentation (as opposed to scanned or
>> digital photos which I add as a 'picture' ) as a 'file' appears to be
>> preferable since the copy/paste function for subsequent entries
>> carries the detail sourcing data along to each entry.
>>
>> Bob
>>
>>
>> On Jul 30, 2012, at 10:23 PM, JLB wrote:
>>
>>> Either or both.
>>>
>>> Depending what it is it would go under the Picture tab of the Master
>>> Source or the multimedia tab of Source Detail.
>>>
>>> For instance, a census record probably belongs to one family so I
>>> would link that to the Multimedia tab for Source Detail.
>>>
>>> If it was a Master Source, (the way I define that would be something
>>> like a cemetery listing of multiple families) I would link it to the
>>> Pictures tab of that Master Source.
>>>
>>> I guess it depends how to do your sources. If create a different
>>> Master Source for every single census record, then it would be Master
>>> Source.
>>>
>>> If you look at the Assigned Sources window for someone/anyone and
>>> click on the Pictures tab, you'll see there's two areas there; one
>>> called Master Source Picture and one called Source Detail Picture.
>>> If it's a picture it's a picture. If it's a document, as you've
>>> described it, it shows up as document-looking icon. --- JL Beeken
>>> JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
>>> http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/
>>>
>>> On 7/30/2012 7:14 PM, RUNION ROBERT wrote:
>>>> What is the recommended procedure to add source documentation.
>>>> Should a scanned document (.pdf, .doc, .xls, etc) be added as a
>>>> Multimedia 'file' under the event detail, or should the scanned
>>>> document be added under the master source as a 'file'?
>>>>
>>>> Bob
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Legacy User Group guidelines:
>>>> 

Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

[JLB]

Strangely, though, the file-path to the files I dragged and dropped into
the Source Detail multimedia screen, do not show file-paths under
Customize/Locations/View all multimedia paths and neither does the drag
and drop method ask if I want the embedded information added to the Desc
box.

Perhaps a Legacy support person could jump in here.
---

JL Beeken
JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/

On 7/31/2012 11:39 AM, JLB wrote:
> Excuse me on the last reply. It does indeed seem to be possible. I tried
> 10 times on a census record and it wouldn't work. Funny, as it works on
> small portraits. With some persistence, it suddenly worked on the census
> record. There you go! Don't browse, just drag and drop.
> ---
> JL Beeken
> JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
> http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/
>
> On 7/31/2012 11:24 AM, Judith wrote:
>> "I'm talking to you from my memory as I no longer attach anything to Legacy 
>> except little portraits for the people I have portraits for. It's way too 
>> labour-intensive considering I can access any file in a nano-second through 
>> my filing system".
>>
>> I agree, also, if you move a file in your filing system, it drops out of 
>> legacy and creates a problem.  Better to keep them in the filing system for 
>> fast access.
>> Judith
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: JLB [mailto:j...@jgen.ws]
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 10:49 AM
>> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sources
>>
>> I think you'd have to experiment with the printing options here. They may 
>> have changed since my day. I know there was/is? a way to print source 
>> document thumbnails in reports but I didn't think it would be useful for a 
>> reader so I didn't bother with it.
>>
>> There was a time when there was no such thing as a 'File' icon. Document 
>> formats were linked through the Picture icon. It created major havoc when 
>> the File icon arrived as all the document files were automatically unlinked 
>> because they weren't an image format.
>>
>> I'm talking to you from my memory as I no longer attach anything to Legacy 
>> except little portraits for the people I have portraits for. It's way too 
>> labour-intensive considering I can access any file in a nano-second through 
>> my filing system.
>> ---
>> JL Beeken
>> JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/
>>
>> On 7/31/2012 3:45 AM, Robert Runion wrote:
>>> Thanks for the insight. Some of my scanned documents are cemetery
>>> listings and census data as you state and I add those to the Master
>>> source as a 'file', rather than a 'picture'. I presume that the entry
>>> as a Master Source 'file' would not show as an icon in any subsequent
>>> book I might print? But, if I inadvertently added it as a 'picture',
>>> in lieu of a 'file' (I had this happen some years ago), the item icon
>>> showed along with the 'real' pictures in the resultant book print.  A
>>> bummer. So far, adding scanned documentation (as opposed to scanned or
>>> digital photos which I add as a 'picture' ) as a 'file' appears to be
>>> preferable since the copy/paste function for subsequent entries
>>> carries the detail sourcing data along to each entry.
>>>
>>> Bob
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jul 30, 2012, at 10:23 PM, JLB wrote:
>>>
>>>> Either or both.
>>>>
>>>> Depending what it is it would go under the Picture tab of the Master
>>>> Source or the multimedia tab of Source Detail.
>>>>
>>>> For instance, a census record probably belongs to one family so I
>>>> would link that to the Multimedia tab for Source Detail.
>>>>
>>>> If it was a Master Source, (the way I define that would be something
>>>> like a cemetery listing of multiple families) I would link it to the
>>>> Pictures tab of that Master Source.
>>>>
>>>> I guess it depends how to do your sources. If create a different
>>>> Master Source for every single census record, then it would be Master
>>>> Source.
>>>>
>>>> If you look at the Assigned Sources window for someone/anyone and
>>>> click on the Pictures tab, you'll see there's two areas there; one
>>>> called Master Source Picture and one called Source Detail Picture.
>>&

Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

[Ron Ferguson]

Interesting! Are they still there after you exit and restart Legacy?

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

-Original Message-
From: JLB
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 8:14 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

Strangely, though, the file-path to the files I dragged and dropped into
the Source Detail multimedia screen, do not show file-paths under
Customize/Locations/View all multimedia paths and neither does the drag
and drop method ask if I want the embedded information added to the Desc
box.

Perhaps a Legacy support person could jump in here.
---

JL Beeken
JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/

On 7/31/2012 11:39 AM, JLB wrote:
> Excuse me on the last reply. It does indeed seem to be possible. I tried
> 10 times on a census record and it wouldn't work. Funny, as it works on
> small portraits. With some persistence, it suddenly worked on the census
> record. There you go! Don't browse, just drag and drop.
> ---
> JL Beeken
> JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
> http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/
>
> On 7/31/2012 11:24 AM, Judith wrote:
>> "I'm talking to you from my memory as I no longer attach anything to
>> Legacy except little portraits for the people I have portraits for. It's
>> way too labour-intensive considering I can access any file in a
>> nano-second through my filing system".
>>
>> I agree, also, if you move a file in your filing system, it drops out of
>> legacy and creates a problem.  Better to keep them in the filing system
>> for fast access.
>> Judith
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: JLB [mailto:j...@jgen.ws]
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 10:49 AM
>> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sources
>>
>> I think you'd have to experiment with the printing options here. They may
>> have changed since my day. I know there was/is? a way to print source
>> document thumbnails in reports but I didn't think it would be useful for
>> a reader so I didn't bother with it.
>>
>> There was a time when there was no such thing as a 'File' icon. Document
>> formats were linked through the Picture icon. It created major havoc when
>> the File icon arrived as all the document files were automatically
>> unlinked because they weren't an image format.
>>
>> I'm talking to you from my memory as I no longer attach anything to
>> Legacy except little portraits for the people I have portraits for. It's
>> way too labour-intensive considering I can access any file in a
>> nano-second through my filing system.
>> ---
>> JL Beeken
>> JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
>> http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/
>>
>> On 7/31/2012 3:45 AM, Robert Runion wrote:
>>> Thanks for the insight. Some of my scanned documents are cemetery
>>> listings and census data as you state and I add those to the Master
>>> source as a 'file', rather than a 'picture'. I presume that the entry
>>> as a Master Source 'file' would not show as an icon in any subsequent
>>> book I might print? But, if I inadvertently added it as a 'picture',
>>> in lieu of a 'file' (I had this happen some years ago), the item icon
>>> showed along with the 'real' pictures in the resultant book print.  A
>>> bummer. So far, adding scanned documentation (as opposed to scanned or
>>> digital photos which I add as a 'picture' ) as a 'file' appears to be
>>> preferable since the copy/paste function for subsequent entries
>>> carries the detail sourcing data along to each entry.
>>>
>>> Bob
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jul 30, 2012, at 10:23 PM, JLB wrote:
>>>
>>>> Either or both.
>>>>
>>>> Depending what it is it would go under the Picture tab of the Master
>>>> Source or the multimedia tab of Source Detail.
>>>>
>>>> For instance, a census record probably belongs to one family so I
>>>> would link that to the Multimedia tab for Source Detail.
>>>>
>>>> If it was a Master Source, (the way I define that would be something
>>>> like a cemetery listing of multiple families) I would link it to the
>>>> Pictures tab of that Master Source.
>>>>
>>>> I guess it depends how to do your sources. If create a different
>>>> Master Source for every single census record, then it would be Master
>>>> Source.
>>>>
>>>> If 

RE: [LegacyUG] Sources

[Ian GARDENER]

Beginning to sound like there's a bug with media files in this release. Lost 
all mine too.

-Original Message-
From: JLB [mailto:j...@jgen.ws]
Sent: Wednesday, 1 August 2012 5:15 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

Strangely, though, the file-path to the files I dragged and dropped into the 
Source Detail multimedia screen, do not show file-paths under 
Customize/Locations/View all multimedia paths and neither does the drag and 
drop method ask if I want the embedded information added to the Desc box.

Perhaps a Legacy support person could jump in here.
---

JL Beeken
JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/

On 7/31/2012 11:39 AM, JLB wrote:
> Excuse me on the last reply. It does indeed seem to be possible. I
> tried
> 10 times on a census record and it wouldn't work. Funny, as it works
> on small portraits. With some persistence, it suddenly worked on the
> census record. There you go! Don't browse, just drag and drop.
> ---
> JL Beeken
> JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
> http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/
>
> On 7/31/2012 11:24 AM, Judith wrote:
>> "I'm talking to you from my memory as I no longer attach anything to Legacy 
>> except little portraits for the people I have portraits for. It's way too 
>> labour-intensive considering I can access any file in a nano-second through 
>> my filing system".
>>
>> I agree, also, if you move a file in your filing system, it drops out of 
>> legacy and creates a problem.  Better to keep them in the filing system for 
>> fast access.
>> Judith
>>
>> -Original Message-----
>> From: JLB [mailto:j...@jgen.ws]
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 10:49 AM
>> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sources
>>
>> I think you'd have to experiment with the printing options here. They may 
>> have changed since my day. I know there was/is? a way to print source 
>> document thumbnails in reports but I didn't think it would be useful for a 
>> reader so I didn't bother with it.
>>
>> There was a time when there was no such thing as a 'File' icon. Document 
>> formats were linked through the Picture icon. It created major havoc when 
>> the File icon arrived as all the document files were automatically unlinked 
>> because they weren't an image format.
>>
>> I'm talking to you from my memory as I no longer attach anything to Legacy 
>> except little portraits for the people I have portraits for. It's way too 
>> labour-intensive considering I can access any file in a nano-second through 
>> my filing system.
>> ---
>> JL Beeken
>> JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
>> http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/
>>
>> On 7/31/2012 3:45 AM, Robert Runion wrote:
>>> Thanks for the insight. Some of my scanned documents are cemetery
>>> listings and census data as you state and I add those to the Master
>>> source as a 'file', rather than a 'picture'. I presume that the
>>> entry as a Master Source 'file' would not show as an icon in any
>>> subsequent book I might print? But, if I inadvertently added it as a
>>> 'picture', in lieu of a 'file' (I had this happen some years ago),
>>> the item icon showed along with the 'real' pictures in the resultant
>>> book print.  A bummer. So far, adding scanned documentation (as
>>> opposed to scanned or digital photos which I add as a 'picture' ) as
>>> a 'file' appears to be preferable since the copy/paste function for
>>> subsequent entries carries the detail sourcing data along to each entry.
>>>
>>> Bob
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jul 30, 2012, at 10:23 PM, JLB wrote:
>>>
>>>> Either or both.
>>>>
>>>> Depending what it is it would go under the Picture tab of the
>>>> Master Source or the multimedia tab of Source Detail.
>>>>
>>>> For instance, a census record probably belongs to one family so I
>>>> would link that to the Multimedia tab for Source Detail.
>>>>
>>>> If it was a Master Source, (the way I define that would be
>>>> something like a cemetery listing of multiple families) I would
>>>> link it to the Pictures tab of that Master Source.
>>>>
>>>> I guess it depends how to do your sources. If create a different
>>>> Master Source for every single census record, then it would be
>>>> Master Source.
>>>

Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

[JLB]

Yes, they are still there. And in the gallery I dragged them into, the
file-path is shown in the bottom box on the right and also if I click on
the Edit button. So Legacy knows where they came from. They just don't
show up in File-Paths as we normally expect. And there's no import of
embedded metadata as I mentioned although Legacy is slack with metadata
anyway.
---
JL Beeken
JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/

On 7/31/2012 2:13 PM, Ron Ferguson wrote:
> Interesting! Are they still there after you exit and restart Legacy?
>
> Ron Ferguson
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JLB
> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 8:14 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sources
>
> Strangely, though, the file-path to the files I dragged and dropped into
> the Source Detail multimedia screen, do not show file-paths under
> Customize/Locations/View all multimedia paths and neither does the drag
> and drop method ask if I want the embedded information added to the Desc
> box.
>
> Perhaps a Legacy support person could jump in here.
> ---
>
> JL Beeken
> JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
> http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/
>
> On 7/31/2012 11:39 AM, JLB wrote:
>> Excuse me on the last reply. It does indeed seem to be possible. I tried
>
>> 10 times on a census record and it wouldn't work. Funny, as it works on
>> small portraits. With some persistence, it suddenly worked on the census
>
>> record. There you go! Don't browse, just drag and drop.
>> ---
>> JL Beeken
>> JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
>> http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/
>>
>> On 7/31/2012 11:24 AM, Judith wrote:
>>> "I'm talking to you from my memory as I no longer attach anything to
>>> Legacy except little portraits for the people I have portraits for. It's
>>> way too labour-intensive considering I can access any file in a
>>> nano-second through my filing system".
>>>
>>> I agree, also, if you move a file in your filing system, it drops out of
>>> legacy and creates a problem.  Better to keep them in the filing system
>>> for fast access.
>>> Judith
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: JLB [mailto:j...@jgen.ws]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 10:49 AM
>>> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sources
>>>
>>> I think you'd have to experiment with the printing options here. They may
>>> have changed since my day. I know there was/is? a way to print source
>>> document thumbnails in reports but I didn't think it would be useful for
>>> a reader so I didn't bother with it.
>>>
>>> There was a time when there was no such thing as a 'File' icon. Document
>>> formats were linked through the Picture icon. It created major havoc when
>>> the File icon arrived as all the document files were automatically
>>> unlinked because they weren't an image format.
>>>
>>> I'm talking to you from my memory as I no longer attach anything to
>>> Legacy except little portraits for the people I have portraits for. It's
>>> way too labour-intensive considering I can access any file in a
>>> nano-second through my filing system.
>>> ---
>>> JL Beeken
>>> JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
>>> http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/
>>>
>>> On 7/31/2012 3:45 AM, Robert Runion wrote:
>>>> Thanks for the insight. Some of my scanned documents are cemetery
>>>> listings and census data as you state and I add those to the Master
>>>> source as a 'file', rather than a 'picture'. I presume that the entry
>>>> as a Master Source 'file' would not show as an icon in any subsequent
>>>> book I might print? But, if I inadvertently added it as a 'picture',
>>>> in lieu of a 'file' (I had this happen some years ago), the item icon
>>>> showed along with the 'real' pictures in the resultant book print.  A
>>>> bummer. So far, adding scanned documentation (as opposed to scanned or
>
>>>> digital photos which I add as a 'picture' ) as a 'file' appears to be
>>>> preferable since the copy/paste function for subsequent entries
>>>> carries the detail sourcing data along to each entry.
>>>>
>>>> Bob
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 30, 2012, at 10:23 PM, JLB w

Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

[Ron Ferguson]

-Original Message-
From: bgsu1...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 11:13 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

"Ian GARDENER"  proclaimed:

>Beginning to sound like there's a bug with media files in this release.
>Lost all mine too.

As I recall, you lost yours because of pilot error.

--

bgsu


Nor has JLB lost any, he was trying entering images via Drag & Drop -
something which I have never tried btw.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/




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Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

[Ron Ferguson]

Just how are you doing it - from where to where - I am having no luck in
getting Legacy to accept a pic from a folder in my Picture folder (not the
Legacy Picture folder)? I don't know if it makes a difference, but I am on
Win7 64bit.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

-Original Message-
From: JLB
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 11:45 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

Yes, they are still there. And in the gallery I dragged them into, the
file-path is shown in the bottom box on the right and also if I click on
the Edit button. So Legacy knows where they came from. They just don't
show up in File-Paths as we normally expect. And there's no import of
embedded metadata as I mentioned although Legacy is slack with metadata
anyway.
---
JL Beeken
JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/

On 7/31/2012 2:13 PM, Ron Ferguson wrote:
> Interesting! Are they still there after you exit and restart Legacy?
>
> Ron Ferguson
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JLB
> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 8:14 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sources
>
> Strangely, though, the file-path to the files I dragged and dropped into
> the Source Detail multimedia screen, do not show file-paths under
> Customize/Locations/View all multimedia paths and neither does the drag
> and drop method ask if I want the embedded information added to the Desc
> box.
>
> Perhaps a Legacy support person could jump in here.
> ---
>
> JL Beeken
> JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
> http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/
>
> On 7/31/2012 11:39 AM, JLB wrote:
>> Excuse me on the last reply. It does indeed seem to be possible. I tried
>
>> 10 times on a census record and it wouldn't work. Funny, as it works on
>> small portraits. With some persistence, it suddenly worked on the census
>
>> record. There you go! Don't browse, just drag and drop.
>> ---
>> JL Beeken
>> JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
>> http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/
>>
>> On 7/31/2012 11:24 AM, Judith wrote:
>>> "I'm talking to you from my memory as I no longer attach anything to
>>> Legacy except little portraits for the people I have portraits for. It's
>>> way too labour-intensive considering I can access any file in a
>>> nano-second through my filing system".
>>>
>>> I agree, also, if you move a file in your filing system, it drops out of
>>> legacy and creates a problem.  Better to keep them in the filing system
>>> for fast access.
>>> Judith
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: JLB [mailto:j...@jgen.ws]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 10:49 AM
>>> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sources
>>>
>>> I think you'd have to experiment with the printing options here. They
>>> may
>>> have changed since my day. I know there was/is? a way to print source
>>> document thumbnails in reports but I didn't think it would be useful for
>>> a reader so I didn't bother with it.
>>>
>>> There was a time when there was no such thing as a 'File' icon. Document
>>> formats were linked through the Picture icon. It created major havoc
>>> when
>>> the File icon arrived as all the document files were automatically
>>> unlinked because they weren't an image format.
>>>
>>> I'm talking to you from my memory as I no longer attach anything to
>>> Legacy except little portraits for the people I have portraits for. It's
>>> way too labour-intensive considering I can access any file in a
>>> nano-second through my filing system.
>>> ---
>>> JL Beeken
>>> JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
>>> http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/
>>>
>>> On 7/31/2012 3:45 AM, Robert Runion wrote:
>>>> Thanks for the insight. Some of my scanned documents are cemetery
>>>> listings and census data as you state and I add those to the Master
>>>> source as a 'file', rather than a 'picture'. I presume that the entry
>>>> as a Master Source 'file' would not show as an icon in any subsequent
>>>> book I might print? But, if I inadvertently added it as a 'picture',
>>>> in lieu of a 'file' (I had this happen some years ago), the item icon
>>>> showed along with the 'real' pictures in the resultant book print.  A
>>>> bumm

Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

[Don Hendershot]

I have Legacy7.5 on my WIN7 64 bit PC (not Deluxe). I uploaded pics stored in 
the default Legacy folder and I don't see any issues with that approach.

~Don


On Jul 31, 2012, at 5:10 PM, "Ron Ferguson"  wrote:

> Just how are you doing it - from where to where - I am having no luck in
> getting Legacy to accept a pic from a folder in my Picture folder (not the
> Legacy Picture folder)? I don't know if it makes a difference, but I am on
> Win7 64bit.
>
> Ron Ferguson
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JLB
> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 11:45 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sources
>
> Yes, they are still there. And in the gallery I dragged them into, the
> file-path is shown in the bottom box on the right and also if I click on
> the Edit button. So Legacy knows where they came from. They just don't
> show up in File-Paths as we normally expect. And there's no import of
> embedded metadata as I mentioned although Legacy is slack with metadata
> anyway.
> ---
> JL Beeken
> JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
> http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/
>
> On 7/31/2012 2:13 PM, Ron Ferguson wrote:
>> Interesting! Are they still there after you exit and restart Legacy?
>>
>> Ron Ferguson
>> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
>>
>> -----Original Message-
>> From: JLB
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 8:14 PM
>> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sources
>>
>> Strangely, though, the file-path to the files I dragged and dropped into
>> the Source Detail multimedia screen, do not show file-paths under
>> Customize/Locations/View all multimedia paths and neither does the drag
>> and drop method ask if I want the embedded information added to the Desc
>> box.
>>
>> Perhaps a Legacy support person could jump in here.
>> ---
>>
>> JL Beeken
>> JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
>> http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/
>>
>> On 7/31/2012 11:39 AM, JLB wrote:
>>> Excuse me on the last reply. It does indeed seem to be possible. I tried
>>
>>> 10 times on a census record and it wouldn't work. Funny, as it works on
>>> small portraits. With some persistence, it suddenly worked on the census
>>
>>> record. There you go! Don't browse, just drag and drop.
>>> ---
>>> JL Beeken
>>> JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
>>> http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/
>>>
>>> On 7/31/2012 11:24 AM, Judith wrote:
>>>> "I'm talking to you from my memory as I no longer attach anything to
>>>> Legacy except little portraits for the people I have portraits for. It's
>>>> way too labour-intensive considering I can access any file in a
>>>> nano-second through my filing system".
>>>>
>>>> I agree, also, if you move a file in your filing system, it drops out of
>>>> legacy and creates a problem.  Better to keep them in the filing system
>>>> for fast access.
>>>> Judith
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: JLB [mailto:j...@jgen.ws]
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 10:49 AM
>>>> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sources
>>>>
>>>> I think you'd have to experiment with the printing options here. They
>>>> may
>>>> have changed since my day. I know there was/is? a way to print source
>>>> document thumbnails in reports but I didn't think it would be useful for
>>>> a reader so I didn't bother with it.
>>>>
>>>> There was a time when there was no such thing as a 'File' icon. Document
>>>> formats were linked through the Picture icon. It created major havoc
>>>> when
>>>> the File icon arrived as all the document files were automatically
>>>> unlinked because they weren't an image format.
>>>>
>>>> I'm talking to you from my memory as I no longer attach anything to
>>>> Legacy except little portraits for the people I have portraits for. It's
>>>> way too labour-intensive considering I can access any file in a
>>>> nano-second through my filing system.
>>>> ---
>>>> JL Beeken
>>>> JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
>>>> http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/
>>>>
>>>> On 7/31/2012 3:45 AM, Robert Runion wrote:
>>>>> Thanks

Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

[JLB]

I open a gallery first, then drag and drop a file from anywhere. It
doesn't always take on the first time. It might take 10 tries. Seems the
quicker I do it the better it works. Just pick up a file and drop it
into one of the little squares. I've only tried it with jpg's and tiff's
so far. Don't know if it works with pdf's, doc's, etc.
---
JL Beeken
JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/

On 7/31/2012 4:10 PM, Ron Ferguson wrote:
> Just how are you doing it - from where to where - I am having no luck in
> getting Legacy to accept a pic from a folder in my Picture folder (not the
> Legacy Picture folder)? I don't know if it makes a difference, but I am on
> Win7 64bit.
>
> Ron Ferguson
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JLB
> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 11:45 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sources
>
> Yes, they are still there. And in the gallery I dragged them into, the
> file-path is shown in the bottom box on the right and also if I click on
> the Edit button. So Legacy knows where they came from. They just don't
> show up in File-Paths as we normally expect. And there's no import of
> embedded metadata as I mentioned although Legacy is slack with metadata
> anyway.
> ---
> JL Beeken
> JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
> http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/
>
> On 7/31/2012 2:13 PM, Ron Ferguson wrote:
>> Interesting! Are they still there after you exit and restart Legacy?
>>
>> Ron Ferguson
>> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: JLB
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 8:14 PM
>> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sources
>>
>> Strangely, though, the file-path to the files I dragged and dropped into
>
>> the Source Detail multimedia screen, do not show file-paths under
>> Customize/Locations/View all multimedia paths and neither does the drag
>> and drop method ask if I want the embedded information added to the Desc
>
>> box.
>>
>> Perhaps a Legacy support person could jump in here.
>> ---
>>
>> JL Beeken
>> JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
>> http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/
>>
>> On 7/31/2012 11:39 AM, JLB wrote:
>>> Excuse me on the last reply. It does indeed seem to be possible. I tried
>>
>>> 10 times on a census record and it wouldn't work. Funny, as it works on
>
>>> small portraits. With some persistence, it suddenly worked on the census
>>
>>> record. There you go! Don't browse, just drag and drop.
>>> ---
>>> JL Beeken
>>> JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
>>> http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/
>>>
>>> On 7/31/2012 11:24 AM, Judith wrote:
>>>> "I'm talking to you from my memory as I no longer attach anything to
>>>> Legacy except little portraits for the people I have portraits for. It's
>>>> way too labour-intensive considering I can access any file in a
>>>> nano-second through my filing system".
>>>>
>>>> I agree, also, if you move a file in your filing system, it drops out of
>>>> legacy and creates a problem.  Better to keep them in the filing system
>>>> for fast access.
>>>> Judith
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: JLB [mailto:j...@jgen.ws]
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 10:49 AM
>>>> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sources
>>>>
>>>> I think you'd have to experiment with the printing options here. They
>
>>>> may
>>>> have changed since my day. I know there was/is? a way to print source
>>>> document thumbnails in reports but I didn't think it would be useful for
>>>> a reader so I didn't bother with it.
>>>>
>>>> There was a time when there was no such thing as a 'File' icon. Document
>>>> formats were linked through the Picture icon. It created major havoc
>>>> when
>>>> the File icon arrived as all the document files were automatically
>>>> unlinked because they weren't an image format.
>>>>
>>>> I'm talking to you from my memory as I no longer attach anything to
>>>> Legacy except little portraits for the people I have portraits for. It's
>>>> way too labour-intensive considering I can access any file in a
>>>> nano-

Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

[JLB]

Sure, I believe you. :)
---
JL Beeken
JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/

On 7/31/2012 4:17 PM, bgsu1...@gmail.com wrote:
> JLB  proclaimed:
>
>> They just don't
>> show up in File-Paths as we normally expect.
>
> The default picture path (the one that shows up in
> Options/Customize/Locations as the default) isn't always stored under
> 'View Current List of Multimedia Locations'. So your real list of
> multimedia locations is equal to what shows up in 'View Current List of
> Multimedia Locations' plus the default picture path. You can confirm
> this by examining tblBR.IDBPPic. If zero then the default path is used.
> Otherwise it is a foreign key pointing to a row in tblBP.
>
> In case you are wondering, the default picture path is not stored in the
> .fdb. It is stored in Legacy.usr because it is a global setting, not
> specific to a single .fdb. I think it is around line 344.
>



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RE: [LegacyUG] Sources

[Ian GARDENER]

Yes but the links were missing in ever backup restored, even 12 month old 
backups!
That is not "pilot error". Did you have something constructive to contribute?

-Original Message-
From: bgsu1...@gmail.com [mailto:bgsu1...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 1 August 2012 8:14 AM
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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

"Ian GARDENER"  proclaimed:

>Beginning to sound like there's a bug with media files in this release. Lost 
>all mine too.

As I recall, you lost yours because of pilot error.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

[R G Strong-genes]

The links are stored in a .usr file and not in the legacy file so if you
told it to delete the links there is nothing stored in the .usr file. I
believe the usr files are not backed up with the legacy file when backups
are done.
Russ

-Original Message-
From: Ian GARDENER
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 6:00 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Sources

Yes but the links were missing in ever backup restored, even 12 month old
backups!
That is not "pilot error". Did you have something constructive to
contribute?

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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

"Ian GARDENER"  proclaimed:

>Beginning to sound like there's a bug with media files in this release.
>Lost all mine too.

As I recall, you lost yours because of pilot error.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

[Sherry/Support]

Links to multimedia files are stored in the .FDB file.

There is no way that the links will be removed from the FDB file when
it is backed up.  The backup simply compresses the FDB file ad
associated files together in one convenient package.


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
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On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 6:49 PM, R G Strong-genes
 wrote:
> The links are stored in a .usr file and not in the legacy file so if you
> told it to delete the links there is nothing stored in the .usr file. I
> believe the usr files are not backed up with the legacy file when backups
> are done.
> Russ
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ian GARDENER
> Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 6:00 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Sources
>
> Yes but the links were missing in ever backup restored, even 12 month old
> backups!
> That is not "pilot error". Did you have something constructive to
> contribute?
>



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Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

[JLB]

On the same subject but not Ian's exactly: When I bring multimedia into
Legacy by drag and drop, there is no file-path listed under
Customize/Locations/View all Multimedia Locations. So how can I change
the path if I want to?
---
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On 8/1/2012 6:53 PM, Sherry/Support wrote:
> Links to multimedia files are stored in the .FDB file.
>
> There is no way that the links will be removed from the FDB file when
> it is backed up.  The backup simply compresses the FDB file ad
> associated files together in one convenient package.
>
>
> Sincerely,
> Sherry
> Technical Support
> Legacy Family Tree
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 6:49 PM, R G Strong-genes
>   wrote:
>> The links are stored in a .usr file and not in the legacy file so if you
>
>> told it to delete the links there is nothing stored in the .usr file. I
>> believe the usr files are not backed up with the legacy file when backups
>> are done.
>> Russ
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Ian GARDENER
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 6:00 PM
>> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Sources
>>
>> Yes but the links were missing in ever backup restored, even 12 month old
>> backups!
>> That is not "pilot error". Did you have something constructive to
>> contribute?
>>
>
>
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RE: [LegacyUG] Sources

[Ian GARDENER]

yawn

-Original Message-
From: bgsu1...@gmail.com [mailto:bgsu1...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, 2 August 2012 8:28 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Cc: den...@zippersoftware.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

"Ian GARDENER"  proclaimed:

>Yes but the links were missing in ever backup restored, even 12 month old 
>backups!
>That is not "pilot error". Did you have something constructive to contribute?

Yes. I know first hand that someone offered to look at your files. This would 
have confirmed your claim (or not). If you still have one of those backups why 
don't you take him up on it and send him the backup?

Even if you don't take him up on the offer, you can easily prove or disprove 
your claim. Run a backup on your recovered database. Then restore from that 
backup to a different database name (Legacy will prompt you for a new 
filename). Were the links restored or not?

Quite simple to test.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

[bgsu1976]

That kind of attitude is going to get you a lot of help the next time
you ask.

If you can reproduce the error, you can report it to support to get it
fixed so you and others won't encounter it in the future.

Since you apparently can't reproduce the error, my 'pilot error' comment
stands.

--

bgsu

***

"Ian GARDENER"  proclaimed:

>yawn
>
>-Original Message-
>From: bgsu1...@gmail.com [mailto:bgsu1...@gmail.com]
>Sent: Thursday, 2 August 2012 8:28 AM
>To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>Cc: den...@zippersoftware.com
>Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sources
>
>"Ian GARDENER"  proclaimed:
>
>>Yes but the links were missing in ever backup restored, even 12 month old 
>>backups!
>>That is not "pilot error". Did you have something constructive to contribute?
>
>Yes. I know first hand that someone offered to look at your files. This would 
>have confirmed your claim (or not). If you still have one of those backups why 
>don't you take him up on it and send him the backup?
>
>Even if you don't take him up on the offer, you can easily prove or disprove 
>your claim. Run a backup on your recovered database. Then restore from that 
>backup to a different database name (Legacy will prompt you for a new 
>filename). Were the links restored or not?
>
>Quite simple to test.



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Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

[Brian/Support]

I was on vacation when this thread started. I tried some limited
experiments on the laptop I had with me but could never get drag and
drop to work so I ignored the thread at that time. I tried again today
and discovered there are a few tricks to get drag and drop to work.

1. It only works on the first box in the photo gallery, you cannot drop
unto any other boxes. If the first box already has a picture you must
still drop your photo in that box. It will move the existing picture(s)
to the next box.
2. There seems to be a hot area in the box that you have to point to.
When you hit that the mouse cursor changes to a + sigh in a square.
Releasing the mouse button then drops the picture. The area is most of
the box but there is an area around the edges which do not work.

WARNING WARNING WARNING: I just found a major problem!! If you have an
existing picture and drop a new photo on box 1, the existing picture is
moved to box 2. If you then cancel out of the screen the new picture
will replace the older one. If you close normally both pictures are saved.

I have entered a problem report on the missing path name and on the
replace problem.

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On 31/07/2012 15:14, JLB wrote:
> Strangely, though, the file-path to the files I dragged and dropped into
> the Source Detail multimedia screen, do not show file-paths under
> Customize/Locations/View all multimedia paths and neither does the drag
> and drop method ask if I want the embedded information added to the Desc
> box.
>
> Perhaps a Legacy support person could jump in here.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

[Ron Ferguson]

Bill wrote:
> With all the many source choices in the source writer, is there a way
> to see the detail page before saving the source and then finding out
> this is not what you want? It seems to be a long process finding the
> right source with the right detail.
>
> Bill
>

Bill,

If there is then I haven't found it!

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Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

[Jenny M Benson]

Bill wrote
>With all the many source choices in the source writer, is there a way
>to see the detail page before saving the source and then finding out
>this is not what you want? It seems to be a long process finding the
>right source with the right detail.

I quite agree that it is a bit of a pain having to work right through a
citation before one can see if it's really what one wanted.

What I would like to be able to do is to download a "manual" which would
comprise a  "worked example" of every SourceWriter template.  One could
then flip through the manual looking for one which gave the output one
was after.

I found that frequently I can't remember just how I fill in the Detail
for a Source I haven't used for a while so for lack of such a manual I
am creating my own by printing a screen shot of the completed Source
Detail screen for each template I use.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

[Kay Fordham]

Jenny -

I, too, have been making a screen shot. The problem I have with this is that
if the text extends beyond what you see in the box on the screen the screen
shot does not capture it. This happens often in the detail screen in the
"citing" block. If a few are done at the same time I just copy and paste;
however, going back at a later date to add a source I cannot recall
specifically how the info was entered. I can print out a source citation
report which will provide the entire string. Do you have another work-around
for this?

Kay

- Original Message -
From: "Jenny M Benson" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 9:05 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sources


Bill wrote
>With all the many source choices in the source writer, is there a way
>to see the detail page before saving the source and then finding out
>this is not what you want? It seems to be a long process finding the
>right source with the right detail.

I quite agree that it is a bit of a pain having to work right through a
citation before one can see if it's really what one wanted.

What I would like to be able to do is to download a "manual" which would
comprise a  "worked example" of every SourceWriter template.  One could
then flip through the manual looking for one which gave the output one
was after.

I found that frequently I can't remember just how I fill in the Detail
for a Source I haven't used for a while so for lack of such a manual I
am creating my own by printing a screen shot of the completed Source
Detail screen for each template I use.
--
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Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

[Connie Sheets]

Kay Fordham  wrote:

> I, too, have been making a screen shot. The problem I have
> with this is that
> if the text extends beyond what you see in the box on the
> screen the screen
> shot does not capture it. This happens often in the detail
> screen in the
> "citing" block. If a few are done at the same time I just
> copy and paste;
> however, going back at a later date to add a source I
> cannot recall
> specifically how the info was entered. I can print out a
> source citation
> report which will provide the entire string. Do you have
> another work-around
> for this?


Kay,

I would think the Output Preview on the right would show everything you've 
entered, at least if you have the Text/Comments box checked to print?  There 
will also be an asterisk on the Text/Comments box to indicate you entered data 
there.

On the templates where one must scroll down to see all the fields, I just 
scroll to the bottom, make another screen shot, and save all 3 screen shots, in 
sequence, to a Word document.

Connie







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Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

[Connie Sheets]

Bill  wrote:

> With all the many source choices in
> the source writer, is there a way to see the detail page
> before saving the source and then finding out this is not
> what you want? It seems to be a long process finding the
> right source with the right detail.

I found myself muttering and wishing the same thing yesterday as I tried to 
find the best template for a problem I was working on.  Unfortunately, I know 
of no way to do what you are asking.  I too am "all ears" if someone has 
figured out a way to do this.

The only workaround I've found (for future use; doesn't help the first time) is 
to maximize the Edit Source screen of a completed source you like, Print 
Screen, and imbed in a Word document; then repeat with the Edit Detail screen.  
You can gradually develop a personalized manual of your favorite templates, 
with examples of how they will look when printed.

I don't do this with sources I use all the time (like census records), but for 
less frequently used source types, it avoids going through the process again in 
6 months when I've forgotten what I did the last time.  It also helps me 
remember where I actually enter data, as I sometimes "tweak" what I enter in 
certain fields so it will print the way I want.

I suppose you could do something similar with "tests" of the source types you 
think you're most likely to use in the future without saving them to your 
database.

Connie Sheets











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RE: [LegacyUG] Sources

[Roger Jarrett]

The sourcewriter templates are based on "Evidence Explained" by Elizabeth Shown 
Mills which is available from Legacy.

Regards
Roger

-Original Message-
From: Bill [mailto:wi1...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, 4 April 2010 2:35 a.m.
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Sources

With all the many source choices in the source writer, is there a way to see 
the detail page before saving the source and then finding out this is not what 
you want? It seems to be a long process finding the right source with the right 
detail.
�
Bill






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Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

[Kay Fordham]

Yes indeed, Connie, you can do a screen shot of the detail information menu
and the Output Preview on the right hand side of the page. I have to
remember to minimize the window before doing the screen shot and set the
page orientation to landscape in WordPad or whatever so that all of the
information will fit on the page. Thanks for the tip.

Kay

- Original Message -
From: "Connie Sheets" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 10:06 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sources


Kay Fordham  wrote:

> I, too, have been making a screen shot. The problem I have
> with this is that
> if the text extends beyond what you see in the box on the
> screen the screen
> shot does not capture it. This happens often in the detail
> screen in the
> "citing" block. If a few are done at the same time I just
> copy and paste;
> however, going back at a later date to add a source I
> cannot recall
> specifically how the info was entered. I can print out a
> source citation
> report which will provide the entire string. Do you have
> another work-around
> for this?


Kay,

I would think the Output Preview on the right would show everything you've
entered, at least if you have the Text/Comments box checked to print?  There
will also be an asterisk on the Text/Comments box to indicate you entered
data there.

On the templates where one must scroll down to see all the fields, I just
scroll to the bottom, make another screen shot, and save all 3 screen shots,
in sequence, to a Word document.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

[Jenny M Benson]

Kay Fordham wrote
>I, too, have been making a screen shot. The problem I have with this is
>that if the text extends beyond what you see in the box on the screen
>the screen shot does not capture it. This happens often in the detail
>screen in the "citing" block. If a few are done at the same time I just
>copy and paste; however, going back at a later date to add a source I
>cannot recall specifically how the info was entered. I can print out a
>source citation report which will provide the entire string. Do you
>have another work-around for this?

Some of the templates have so many fields on the Details screen that one
needs to scroll down and thus one doesn't see them all in a screenshot,
but I decide whether to show the top few or the middle few or the bottom
few (!) and together with the Output Preview on the right of the screen
this is generally enough to show me what to do next time.

I find these printouts more use to me than a Source Citation Report
would be, but of course they don't actually tell me which template I
used, which is why the example manual would be so handy.
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RE: [LegacyUG] Sources

[Connie Sheets]

Roger wrote:

> The sourcewriter templates are based
> on "Evidence Explained" by Elizabeth Shown Mills which is
> available from Legacy.

While EE is an excellent book to own, and while Geoff and his crew have done a 
good job of creating templates based upon the book, owning the book will not 
solve the specific problem that Bill raises.

EE, for example, won't tell you which Legacy field to type data into, nor will 
the end result of a Legacy template necessarily be identical to a similar model 
in EE.

Despite all the examples in EE and templates in Legacy, there are multiple 
unique situations in which we are "on our own" to create citations based upon 
the principles explained in EE.

It would be nice (hint hint) if Millenia would post a listing of the pages from 
EE from which they have created templates.  It is available at the bottom of 
the "Search" box on the Add A New Master Source screen, but if there is a way 
to print (or copy and paste) that list, I'm at a loss as to how to do so.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

[Mike Fry]

On 2010/04/03 21:06, Connie Sheets wrote:
>
> While EE is an excellent book to own, and while Geoff and his crew
> have done a good job of creating templates based upon the book,
> owning the book will not solve the specific problem that Bill
> raises.

It can :-)

Hint: On the "Source Template Index" window, the 'Show Evidence
Explained page and section numbers' option actually extends the list
with a rehash of the templates organised by Section and Page number
within the book.

Hint: On the "Source Template Index" window, make sure tick the 'Show
Evidence Explained page and section numbers' has been ticked. Then
 Type the string 'Section 6.' into the textbox at the top
and click the Search button. A search string starting with 'Page '
together with a relevant page number from the book also works.

Viola! A template selected that should correspond to that page or
section of the book. They're all there. Not in the order you might
expect - page 100 comes before 99 and section 10.10 is first.

> EE, for example, won't tell you which Legacy field to type data into,
> nor will the end result of a Legacy template necessarily be identical
> to a similar model in EE.

No, it won't. But it does provide some hints.

> Despite all the examples in EE and templates in Legacy, there are
> multiple unique situations in which we are "on our own" to create
> citations based upon the principles explained in EE.

Yes! That's the way it should be. Personal choice. Play with all the
templates on the Sample database, that's what it's there for! So you can
make mistakes and learn from them.

> It would be nice (hint hint) if Millenia would post a listing of the
> pages from EE from which they have created templates.  It is
> available at the bottom of the "Search" box on the Add A New Master
> Source screen, but if there is a way to print (or copy and paste)
> that list, I'm at a loss as to how to do so.

See above.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

[Connie Sheets]

Jenny M Benson wrote:

> I find these printouts more use to me than a Source
> Citation Report
> would be, but of course they don't actually tell me which
> template I
> used, which is why the example manual would be so handy.

They will tell you which template you used if you first make a Print Screen of 
the Master Source, paste into Word, then do the same thing with the Detail 
screen, pasting into the same document.  Most of mine easily fit one page, 
although some extend to two pages if I have to scroll down and take 3 screen 
shots instead of 2.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

[Jenny M Benson]

Connie Sheets wrote
>They will tell you which template you used if you first make a Print
>Screen of the Master Source, paste into Word, then do the same thing
>with the Detail screen, pasting into the same document.

Yes, of course!  Good idea - it would actually be quite useful to have
the printouts of the Master Source screens as well.  Though I like my
printouts to be a good, readable size, so I would continue to use my
graphics program and print one to a sheet.  I haven't yet found it
necessary to take more than one screen shot as it has been obvious from
the citation preview what is in any "missing" fields.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

[Connie Sheets]

I wrote:

> While EE is an excellent book to own, and while Geoff and his crew
> have done a good job of creating templates based upon the book,
> owning the book will not solve the specific problem that Bill
> raises.

and Mike Fry responded:

> It can :-)
>
> Hint: On the "Source Template Index" window, the 'Show Evidence
> Explained page and section numbers' option actually extends the list
> with a rehash of the templates organised by Section and Page number
> within the book...

Yes, which is why I mentioned it in my post; thanks for going into more detail 
as to how to access that feature.

However, I think we'll have to agree to disagree as to whether it solves the  
problem.  For some people it might.  For me, it is very clunky and not always 
useful.  I just took 3 pages at random in EE:  only one resulted in being able 
to craft the citation as specified on that page in the book.  In the second 
case, while the page in EE provides three choices as to what should be the lead 
element, Legacy's template provides only one.  And in the third example, there 
is no Legacy template for the example on the page I selected:  Legacy tells me 
"No keywords found."

So, while I will continue to use this feature on occasion, I don't see it as 
resolving the issue of not being able to see the fields on the detail screen 
and know how the citation will turn out until you've created and saved a new 
master source.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

[Mike Fry]

On 2010/04/04 14:53, Connie Sheets wrote:
> I wrote:
>
>> While EE is an excellent book to own, and while Geoff and his crew
>> have done a good job of creating templates based upon the book,
>> owning the book will not solve the specific problem that Bill
>> raises.
>
> and Mike Fry responded:
>
>> It can :-)
>>
>> Hint: On the "Source Template Index" window, the 'Show Evidence
>> Explained page and section numbers' option actually extends the
>> list with a rehash of the templates organised by Section and Page
>> number within the book...
>
> Yes, which is why I mentioned it in my post; thanks for going into
> more detail as to how to access that feature.
>
> However, I think we'll have to agree to disagree as to whether it
> solves the  problem.  For some people it might.  For me, it is very
> clunky and not always useful.  I just took 3 pages at random in EE:
> only one resulted in being able to craft the citation as specified on
> that page in the book.  In the second case, while the page in EE
> provides three choices as to what should be the lead element,
> Legacy's template provides only one.  And in the third example, there
> is no Legacy template for the example on the page I selected:  Legacy
> tells me "No keywords found."
>
> So, while I will continue to use this feature on occasion, I don't
> see it as resolving the issue of not being able to see the fields on
> the detail screen and know how the citation will turn out until
> you've created and saved a new master source.

No, you're correct. I think that there's too much information in the
book, and I sometimes can't see the wood because of all the American
timber :-0

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RE: [LegacyUG] Sources

[Brian L. Lightfoot]

Wow. There's one I haven't heard before. :-)


> I sometimes can't see the wood because of all the American
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Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

[Mike Fry]

On 2010/04/04 17:44, Brian L. Lightfoot wrote:
> Wow. There's one I haven't heard before. :-)
>
>> I sometimes can't see the wood because of all the American
> timber :-0

The Smiley didn't come out right :-)

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Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

[Jenny M Benson]

On 17/09/2010 18:09, Lloyd Hite wrote:
> I use the name of Newspapers and Funeral Homes as sources for
> Obituaries. What would I put in the Detail Box I have been leaving
> that blank as I did not know what to put in it.

If all the necessary information is included in the Master Source then
you don't need a Source Detail and can leave it blank.

It does sound as though you are creating a new Master Source for every
Obituary.  Of course, you are free to do so if that's your chosen
option, but if you created just one or a few Master Sources with
information that does not vary from one citation to the next, you can
put the "varying details" into Source Detail.

For example, you might have a Master Source called "Anytown Clarion
Obituaries" and for the Master Source you would enter information that
related to that particular publication.  Whenever you found an Obit to
include in Legacy, the Source Detail would be the date of that edition
of the paper, the page and column number.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

[Lloyd Hite]

At 02:36 PM 9/17/2010, you wrote:
>For example, you might have a Master Source called "Anytown Clarion
>Obituaries" and for the Master Source you would enter information that
>related to that particular publication.  Whenever you found an Obit to
>include in Legacy, the Source Detail would be the date of that edition
>of the paper, the page and column number.

That is what I am doing. For example I use Richmond Times Dispatch
Newspaper Master Source for all Obituaries I get from the Richmond
Paper Online. I have about 25 Newspaper and Funeral Home Master
Sources. I( just wanted to find out what should go in the Details. I
can record the date of the obituary but there is no page and column
numbers in the online edition.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

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On 17/09/2010 20:10, Lloyd Hite wrote:
> For example I use Richmond Times Dispatch
> Newspaper Master Source for all Obituaries I get from the Richmond
> Paper Online. I have about 25 Newspaper and Funeral Home Master
> Sources. I( just wanted to find out what should go in the Details. I
> can record the date of the obituary but there is no page and column
> numbers in the online edition.

 From what you say, I think I would just put the deceased's name and the
date of the Obit in Source Details.  If there is a specific URL for the
page with the Obit I would include that also.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

[aparsons]

Lloyd,
The SourceWriter Template Newspapers>Print edition template in the
when you go to the detail it has article, date, page, column. This
might be what you are looking for.
Ann

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>
> I use the name of Newspapers and Funeral Homes as sources for
> Obituaries. What would I put in the Detail Box I have been leaving
> that blank as I did not know what to put in it.
>
> Lloyd
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Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

[Lloyd Hite]

At 04:56 PM 9/17/2010, you wrote:
> From what you say, I think I would just put the deceased's name and the
>date of the Obit in Source Details.  If there is a specific URL for the
>page with the Obit I would include that also.

Thank you, Jenny. I will try that.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

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My guide to identifying sources is  "how would someone else find it'.  In
that reguard the internet is a real problem, as the URL today may not exist
in 5 years.  So, I would include the URL but also identify where a more
stable repository is, e.g. a library with microfilm, a paper copy of the
newspaper, your files, etc.
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> At 04:56 PM 9/17/2010, you wrote:
> > From what you say, I think I would just put the deceased's name and the
> >date of the Obit in Source Details.  If there is a specific URL for the
> >page with the Obit I would include that also.
>
> Thank you, Jenny. I will try that.
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

[Vivien Martin]

Todd
If your only source for a particular fact is a URL then I would not use it
at all but find the real source behind the URL and use it. If you are using
for eg. Ancestry as a source then if you actually have them detail the
source( Ancestry does do that in Legacy if you let it)  the entire source is
actually there except for the specific repository. Most people I think are
resourcefull enough if they wish to check your research will find a
repository for a source and go and look it up themselves if it is that
important to verify what you have written. Research papers only require a
bibliography not anything more and that is all you are doing here. So write
your source as you would a bibliography for a research paper.
OR
The North American and Canadian and British Genealogical societies and
written papers themselves on how to use the internet as source material.
Look up what they have decided is standard and go from there.
cheers
Vivien

On 19 September 2010 20:44, T Bredin  wrote:

> My guide to identifying sources is  "how would someone else find it'.  In
> that reguard the internet is a real problem, as the URL today may not exist
> in 5 years.  So, I would include the URL but also identify where a more
> stable repository is, e.g. a library with microfilm, a paper copy of the
> newspaper, your files, etc.
> Todd.
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 6:37 AM, Lloyd Hite  wrote:
>
>> At 04:56 PM 9/17/2010, you wrote:
>> > From what you say, I think I would just put the deceased's name and the
>> >date of the Obit in Source Details.  If there is a specific URL for the
>> >page with the Obit I would include that also.
>>
>> Thank you, Jenny. I will try that.
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

[Vivien Martin]

Todd
One last thought. If you only have some else's family family tree as your
source (as you often find on Ancestry) but no primary or good seconday
source material for a particular fact/event that you want to use, then I do
not use it at all.  I treat the event as I do patron submissions on the IGI
as possible but not probable and have no source for that particular
event/fact at all and treat it as highly suspect.
Cheers
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Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

[Connie Sheets]

There are many errors in Ancestry's source information:  wrong page numbers, 
incomplete and/or inaccurate descriptions of the microfilm from which they made 
the images (e.g. not telling you it was an FHL microfilm, and/or giving the 
wrong microfilm number) etc.

Best practice, IMO, is to *cite what you use.*  If I use the "Missouri Marriage 
Records, 1805-2002" database at Ancestry.com and I can determine that the image 
is of Jasper Co. Marriage Book C, p. 152 (stamped) from Missouri State Archives 
microfilm, but Ancestry does not provide a microfilm number, that is what my 
citation will say.

It would be nice if I could travel 1500 miles and use the original source, but 
that is not going to happen any time soon.  I would feel I was being 
irresponsible, inaccurate, and deceptive if I did not mention Ancestry.com (or 
other website/URL) in the citation.

Most style guides differentiate both in content and format between an entry in 
a bibliography and a source citation/footnote.  It will vary with the 
discipline, college professor, professional journal, etc. but it has not been 
my experience that most research papers require only a bibliography.

In genealogy, at least in the US, the standard is to cite the source for each 
statement of fact that is not common knowledge, not lump everything together in 
a bibliography.  So, I'm glad that Legacy now provides for both source 
citations/footnotes AND bibliographies.

Connie

--- On Mon, 9/20/10, Vivien Martin  wrote:

Todd
If your only source for a particular fact is a
 URL then I would not use it at all but find the real source behind the URL and 
use it. If you are using for eg. Ancestry as a source then if you actually have 
them detail the source( Ancestry does do that in Legacy if you let it)  the 
entire source is actually there except for the specific repository. Most people 
I think are resourcefull enough if they wish to check your research will find a 
repository for a source and go and look it up themselves if it is that 
important to verify what you have written. Research papers only require a 
bibliography not anything more and that is all you are doing here. So write 
your source as you would a bibliography for a research paper.

OR
The North American and Canadian and British Genealogical societies and written 
papers themselves on how to use the internet as source material. Look up what 
they have decided is standard and go from there.
cheers

Vivien












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Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

[Kathy Meyer]

Re "cite what you use" -- that's a good point because we are trying to
reproduce what we did/where we obtained that particular bit of
information.  I agree Ancestry sometimes does not take you to the
right page or cite the correct information but if I can reproduce how
I got there, someone else should be able to do the same.  And of
course, if it is possible to get to the repository that's icing on the
cake. Most of us use Ancestry.com because we are not able to get to
those repositories.

Kathy

On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 7:10 AM, Connie Sheets  wrote:
> There are many errors in Ancestry's source information:  wrong page numbers, 
> incomplete and/or inaccurate descriptions of the microfilm from which they 
> made the images (e.g. not telling you it was an FHL microfilm, and/or giving 
> the wrong microfilm number) etc.
>
> Best practice, IMO, is to *cite what you use.*  If I use the "Missouri 
> Marriage Records, 1805-2002" database at Ancestry.com and I can determine 
> that the image is of Jasper Co. Marriage Book C, p. 152 (stamped) from 
> Missouri State Archives microfilm, but Ancestry does not provide a microfilm 
> number, that is what my citation will say.
>
> It would be nice if I could travel 1500 miles and use the original source, 
> but that is not going to happen any time soon.  I would feel I was being 
> irresponsible, inaccurate, and deceptive if I did not mention Ancestry.com 
> (or other website/URL) in the citation.
>
> Most style guides differentiate both in content and format between an entry 
> in a bibliography and a source citation/footnote.  It will vary with the 
> discipline, college professor, professional journal, etc. but it has not been 
> my experience that most research papers require only a bibliography.
>
> In genealogy, at least in the US, the standard is to cite the source for each 
> statement of fact that is not common knowledge, not lump everything together 
> in a bibliography.  So, I'm glad that Legacy now provides for both source 
> citations/footnotes AND bibliographies.
>
> Connie
>
> --- On Mon, 9/20/10, Vivien Martin  wrote:
>
> Todd
> If your only source for a particular fact is a
>  URL then I would not use it at all but find the real source behind the URL 
> and use it. If you are using for eg. Ancestry as a source then if you 
> actually have them detail the source( Ancestry does do that in Legacy if you 
> let it)  the entire source is actually there except for the specific 
> repository. Most people I think are resourcefull enough if they wish to check 
> your research will find a repository for a source and go and look it up 
> themselves if it is that important to verify what you have written. Research 
> papers only require a bibliography not anything more and that is all you are 
> doing here. So write your source as you would a bibliography for a research 
> paper.
>
> OR
> The North American and Canadian and British Genealogical societies and 
> written papers themselves on how to use the internet as source material. Look 
> up what they have decided is standard and go from there.
> cheers
>
> Vivien
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Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

[Toni Sano]

Yes,
I often think that citing the search criteria (such as first and  last name
and/or location ) is almost as good as citing according to traditional
methods. I would be interested in hearing people's thoughts on this.
Toni, Dundas, Ontario

- Original Message -
From: "Kathy Meyer" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 3:45 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sources


Re "cite what you use" -- that's a good point because we are trying to
reproduce what we did/where we obtained that particular bit of
information.  I agree Ancestry sometimes does not take you to the
right page or cite the correct information but if I can reproduce how
I got there, someone else should be able to do the same.  And of
course, if it is possible to get to the repository that's icing on the
cake. Most of us use Ancestry.com because we are not able to get to
those repositories.

Kathy

On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 7:10 AM, Connie Sheets  wrote:
> There are many errors in Ancestry's source information: wrong page
> numbers, incomplete and/or inaccurate descriptions of the microfilm from
> which they made the images (e.g. not telling you it was an FHL microfilm,
> and/or giving the wrong microfilm number) etc.
>
> Best practice, IMO, is to *cite what you use.* If I use the "Missouri
> Marriage Records, 1805-2002" database at Ancestry.com and I can determine
> that the image is of Jasper Co. Marriage Book C, p. 152 (stamped) from
> Missouri State Archives microfilm, but Ancestry does not provide a
> microfilm number, that is what my citation will say.
>
> It would be nice if I could travel 1500 miles and use the original source,
> but that is not going to happen any time soon. I would feel I was being
> irresponsible, inaccurate, and deceptive if I did not mention Ancestry.com
> (or other website/URL) in the citation.
>
> Most style guides differentiate both in content and format between an
> entry in a bibliography and a source citation/footnote. It will vary with
> the discipline, college professor, professional journal, etc. but it has
> not been my experience that most research papers require only a
> bibliography.
>
> In genealogy, at least in the US, the standard is to cite the source for
> each statement of fact that is not common knowledge, not lump everything
> together in a bibliography. So, I'm glad that Legacy now provides for both
> source citations/footnotes AND bibliographies.
>
> Connie
>
> --- On Mon, 9/20/10, Vivien Martin  wrote:
>
> Todd
> If your only source for a particular fact is a
> URL then I would not use it at all but find the real source behind the URL
> and use it. If you are using for eg. Ancestry as a source then if you
> actually have them detail the source( Ancestry does do that in Legacy if
> you let it) the entire source is actually there except for the specific
> repository. Most people I think are resourcefull enough if they wish to
> check your research will find a repository for a source and go and look it
> up themselves if it is that important to verify what you have written.
> Research papers only require a bibliography not anything more and that is
> all you are doing here. So write your source as you would a bibliography
> for a research paper.
>
> OR
> The North American and Canadian and British Genealogical societies and
> written papers themselves on how to use the internet as source material.
> Look up what they have decided is standard and go from there.
> cheers
>
> Vivien
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Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

[T Bredin]

Thank you.
Todd.

On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 7:34 AM, Vivien Martin wrote:

> Todd
> If your only source for a particular fact is a URL then I would not use it
> at all but find the real source behind the URL and use it. If you are using
> for eg. Ancestry as a source then if you actually have them detail the
> source( Ancestry does do that in Legacy if you let it)  the entire source is
> actually there except for the specific repository. Most people I think are
> resourcefull enough if they wish to check your research will find a
> repository for a source and go and look it up themselves if it is that
> important to verify what you have written. Research papers only require a
> bibliography not anything more and that is all you are doing here. So write
> your source as you would a bibliography for a research paper.
> OR
> The North American and Canadian and British Genealogical societies and
> written papers themselves on how to use the internet as source material.
> Look up what they have decided is standard and go from there.
> cheers
> Vivien
>
>  On 19 September 2010 20:44, T Bredin  wrote:
>
>>  My guide to identifying sources is  "how would someone else find it'.
>> In that reguard the internet is a real problem, as the URL today may not
>> exist in 5 years.  So, I would include the URL but also identify where a
>> more stable repository is, e.g. a library with microfilm, a paper copy of
>> the newspaper, your files, etc.
>> Todd.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 6:37 AM, Lloyd Hite  wrote:
>>
>>> At 04:56 PM 9/17/2010, you wrote:
>>> > From what you say, I think I would just put the deceased's name and the
>>> >date of the Obit in Source Details.  If there is a specific URL for the
>>> >page with the Obit I would include that also.
>>>
>>> Thank you, Jenny. I will try that.
>>>
>>> Lloyd
>>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] sources

[Evert van Dijken]

Have a look in the archives (search for Basic and SourceWriter):
http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/msg00772.html
Evert van Dijken

2010/11/24 Cheryl Rothwell :
> I have imported my GEDCOM into Legacy. Can I convert my sources -
> there are about 500 of them - to Source Writer format?
> Is there a way to go through them from a list of sources?
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Re: [LegacyUG] sources

[Richard Van Wasshnova]

ltools or MS Access or Open Office.

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Re: [LegacyUG] sources

[Cheryl Rothwell]

The simple answer appears to be no, not without devoting all your
research time to it.

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Re: [LegacyUG] sources

[Cheryl Rothwell]

LTools maybe. I have no idea how the others apply. Where is that in the manual?

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> ltools or MS Access or Open Office.
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> On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Cheryl Rothwell
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>> Is there a way to go through them from a list of sources?
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Re: [LegacyUG] sources

[Dennis M . Kowallek]

On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 17:29:04 -0600, Cheryl Rothwell
 wrote:

>I have imported my GEDCOM into Legacy. Can I convert my sources -
>there are about 500 of them - to Source Writer format?
>Is there a way to go through them from a list of sources?
>Right now all I can see to do is print out the source list - over 100
>pages - then recreate each one and somehow relink each one. Please
>tell me there is a better way.

Be careful. This thread and the other thread ("Source Writer source to
Basic using MS Access") are talking about two similar BUT different
things. You want to convert basic to SW. The other wants to convert SW
to basic.

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Re: [LegacyUG] sources

[Cheryl Rothwell]

When I imported did it import to basic? If it asked me when I imported
- and I think it did - I told it Source Writer. There are extraneous
words [like "location" in the final output]. I can go through and work
on them but I need to find the list of sources and open each one
individually. I don't see how to do that.



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> On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 17:29:04 -0600, Cheryl Rothwell
>  wrote:
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>>I have imported my GEDCOM into Legacy. Can I convert my sources -
>>there are about 500 of them - to Source Writer format?
>>Is there a way to go through them from a list of sources?
>>Right now all I can see to do is print out the source list - over 100
>>pages - then recreate each one and somehow relink each one. Please
>>tell me there is a better way.
>
> Be careful. This thread and the other thread ("Source Writer source to
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> things. You want to convert basic to SW. The other wants to convert SW
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Re: [LegacyUG] sources

[Dennis M . Kowallek]

On Wed, 24 Nov 2010 08:33:55 -0600, Cheryl Rothwell
 wrote:

>When I imported did it import to basic?

I don't know.

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Re: [LegacyUG] sources

[Cheryl Rothwell]

If I imported and told it to import to Source Writer it might have
imported to basic anyway?

On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 8:40 AM, Dennis M. Kowallek  wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Nov 2010 08:33:55 -0600, Cheryl Rothwell
>  wrote:
>
>>When I imported did it import to basic?
>
> I don't know.
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] sources

[Brian/Support]

If you imported the data from a GEDCOM all the sources were created as
Basic style sources, even if the data was originally from Legacy as SW
style sources. The GEDCOM format for sources does not support the
detailed source fields needed by the SW system. If the data was
originally from Legacy you would have to import from the Legacy File in
order to preserve the SW sources.

To see the Master Sources and edit them go to View > Master Lists > Sources.

NOTE: You cannot convert a Basic Style source to SW style by the edit
process. You will have to create a New SW Style source for each Basic
Style Source in the Master Source List. There is an Add button on the
Source List screen that will let you create those new sources in SW style.

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On 24/11/2010 9:33 AM, Cheryl Rothwell wrote:
> When I imported did it import to basic? If it asked me when I imported
> - and I think it did - I told it Source Writer. There are extraneous
> words [like "location" in the final output]. I can go through and work
> on them but I need to find the list of sources and open each one
> individually. I don't see how to do that.



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Re: [LegacyUG] sources

[Gene Adams]

Which brings up the next question of going from basic style to SW style.  How do
you transfer the information from an individual with basic sources to that of
the SW style without having to go through each individual record one line at a
time?  It is not hard when you have less then a dozen individuals with basic
sources and can print off the details.  It gets to be a nightmare when you have
several hundred, and each detail on the source is different.

Gene Adams





From: Brian/Support 
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Mon, December 27, 2010 2:16:57 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] sources

If you imported the data from a GEDCOM all the sources were created as
Basic style sources, even if the data was originally from Legacy as SW
style sources. The GEDCOM format for sources does not support the
detailed source fields needed by the SW system. If the data was
originally from Legacy you would have to import from the Legacy File in
order to preserve the SW sources.

To see the Master Sources and edit them go to View > Master Lists > Sources.

NOTE: You cannot convert a Basic Style source to SW style by the edit
process. You will have to create a New SW Style source for each Basic
Style Source in the Master Source List. There is an Add button on the
Source List screen that will let you create those new sources in SW style.

Brian
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On 24/11/2010 9:33 AM, Cheryl Rothwell wrote:
> When I imported did it import to basic? If it asked me when I imported
> - and I think it did - I told it Source Writer. There are extraneous
> words [like "location" in the final output]. I can go through and work
> on them but I need to find the list of sources and open each one
> individually. I don't see how to do that.



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Re: [LegacyUG] sources

[Laura Johnson]

several hundred would be a breeze compared to mine - I have more than
25,000 sources under 12 master sources that would need to be converted
to SW.  So until there is some kind of easy conversion tool, I will have
to continue using the basic sources so that all remain uniform as they
are now

On 12/27/2010 6:06 PM, Gene Adams wrote:
> Which brings up the next question of going from basic style to SW
> style.  How do you transfer the information from an individual with
> basic sources to that of the SW style without having to go through
> each individual record one line at a time?  It is not hard when you
> have less then a dozen individuals with basic sources and can print
> off the details.  It gets to be a nightmare when you have several
> hundred, and each detail on the source is different.
> Gene Adams
>
> 
> *From:* Brian/Support 
> *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> *Sent:* Mon, December 27, 2010 2:16:57 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] sources
>
> If you imported the data from a GEDCOM all the sources were created as
> Basic style sources, even if the data was originally from Legacy as SW
> style sources. The GEDCOM format for sources does not support the
> detailed source fields needed by the SW system. If the data was
> originally from Legacy you would have to import from the Legacy File in
> order to preserve the SW sources.
>
> To see the Master Sources and edit them go to View > Master Lists >
> Sources.
>
> NOTE: You cannot convert a Basic Style source to SW style by the edit
> process. You will have to create a New SW Style source for each Basic
> Style Source in the Master Source List. There is an Add button on the
> Source List screen that will let you create those new sources in SW style.
>
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> On 24/11/2010 9:33 AM, Cheryl Rothwell wrote:
> > When I imported did it import to basic? If it asked me when I imported
> > - and I think it did - I told it Source Writer. There are extraneous
> > words [like "location" in the final output]. I can go through and work
> > on them but I need to find the list of sources and open each one
> > individually. I don't see how to do that.
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] sources

[Tim Rosenlof]

Brian,

I understand you would loose the SW style and revert to a Basic source.
Would that Basic source which was reverted from SW style meet/keep
Evidence! style ?

Tim Rosenlof

On 12/27/2010 3:16 PM, Brian/Support wrote:
> If you imported the data from a GEDCOM all the sources were created as
> Basic style sources, even if the data was originally from Legacy as SW
> style sources. The GEDCOM format for sources does not support the
> detailed source fields needed by the SW system. If the data was
> originally from Legacy you would have to import from the Legacy File in
> order to preserve the SW sources.
>
> To see the Master Sources and edit them go to View>  Master Lists>  Sources.
>
> NOTE: You cannot convert a Basic Style source to SW style by the edit
> process. You will have to create a New SW Style source for each Basic
> Style Source in the Master Source List. There is an Add button on the
> Source List screen that will let you create those new sources in SW style.
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] sources

[Ward Walker]

Tim,

The quality of the conversion varies with the nature of the template. Some
SW templates intersperse master and detail fields in the formatted output.
Once the source is converted to Basic, you get all the master info followed
by all the detail info. The result can look rather scrambled, for some
templates. Also, certain punctuation and abbreviations (like "p." for page)
can appear out of place or be missing.

It's easy to experiment and see the results by importing the GEDCOM back
into a test family file.

Other genealogy packages have the same issue. There are several threads on
this in the mail list archive.

   Ward

- Original Message -
From: "Tim Rosenlof" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 8:58 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] sources


Brian,

I understand you would loose the SW style and revert to a Basic source.
Would that Basic source which was reverted from SW style meet/keep
Evidence! style ?

Tim Rosenlof

On 12/27/2010 3:16 PM, Brian/Support wrote:
> If you imported the data from a GEDCOM all the sources were created as
> Basic style sources, even if the data was originally from Legacy as SW
> style sources. The GEDCOM format for sources does not support the
> detailed source fields needed by the SW system. If the data was
> originally from Legacy you would have to import from the Legacy File in
> order to preserve the SW sources.
>
> To see the Master Sources and edit them go to View>  Master Lists>
> Sources.
>
> NOTE: You cannot convert a Basic Style source to SW style by the edit
> process. You will have to create a New SW Style source for each Basic
> Style Source in the Master Source List. There is an Add button on the
> Source List screen that will let you create those new sources in SW style.
...




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Re: [LegacyUG] sources

[Tim Rosenlof]

Ward,

Thank you for the good info. I will indeed test it with some of my
complicated detail.

Accept my apology for not looking in the archive.

Tim Rosenlof

On 12/28/2010 12:18 PM, Ward Walker wrote:
> Tim,
>
> The quality of the conversion varies with the nature of the template. Some
> SW templates intersperse master and detail fields in the formatted output.
> Once the source is converted to Basic, you get all the master info followed
> by all the detail info. The result can look rather scrambled, for some
> templates. Also, certain punctuation and abbreviations (like "p." for page)
> can appear out of place or be missing.
>
> It's easy to experiment and see the results by importing the GEDCOM back
> into a test family file.
>
> Other genealogy packages have the same issue. There are several threads on
> this in the mail list archive.
>
> Ward
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Tim Rosenlof"
> To:
> Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 8:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] sources
>
>
> Brian,
>
> I understand you would loose the SW style and revert to a Basic source.
> Would that Basic source which was reverted from SW style meet/keep
> Evidence! style ?
>
> Tim Rosenlof
>
> On 12/27/2010 3:16 PM, Brian/Support wrote:
>> If you imported the data from a GEDCOM all the sources were created as
>> Basic style sources, even if the data was originally from Legacy as SW
>> style sources. The GEDCOM format for sources does not support the
>> detailed source fields needed by the SW system. If the data was
>> originally from Legacy you would have to import from the Legacy File in
>> order to preserve the SW sources.
>>
>> To see the Master Sources and edit them go to View>   Master Lists>
>> Sources.
>>
>> NOTE: You cannot convert a Basic Style source to SW style by the edit
>> process. You will have to create a New SW Style source for each Basic
>> Style Source in the Master Source List. There is an Add button on the
>> Source List screen that will let you create those new sources in SW style.
>



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Re: [LegacyUG] sources

[Elizabeth Cunningham]

I missed something.  What is SW?

 Elizabeth C

Ward Walker wrote:
> Tim,
>
> The quality of the conversion varies with the nature of the template. Some
> SW templates intersperse master and detail fields in the formatted output.
> Once the source is converted to Basic, you get all the master info followed
> by all the detail info. The result can look rather scrambled, for some
> templates. Also, certain punctuation and abbreviations (like "p." for page)
> can appear out of place or be missing.
>
> It's easy to experiment and see the results by importing the GEDCOM back
> into a test family file.
>
> Other genealogy packages have the same issue. There are several threads on
> this in the mail list archive.
>
> Ward
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Tim Rosenlof"
> To:
> Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 8:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] sources
>
>
> Brian,
>
> I understand you would loose the SW style and revert to a Basic source.
> Would that Basic source which was reverted from SW style meet/keep
> Evidence! style ?
>
> Tim Rosenlof
>
> On 12/27/2010 3:16 PM, Brian/Support wrote:
>
>> If you imported the data from a GEDCOM all the sources were created as
>> Basic style sources, even if the data was originally from Legacy as SW
>> style sources. The GEDCOM format for sources does not support the
>> detailed source fields needed by the SW system. If the data was
>> originally from Legacy you would have to import from the Legacy File in
>> order to preserve the SW sources.
>>
>> To see the Master Sources and edit them go to View>   Master Lists>
>> Sources.
>>
>> NOTE: You cannot convert a Basic Style source to SW style by the edit
>> process. You will have to create a New SW Style source for each Basic
>> Style Source in the Master Source List. There is an Add button on the
>> Source List screen that will let you create those new sources in SW style.
>>
> ...
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RE: [LegacyUG] sources

[Cynthia Pursch]

SW is source writer.

Cynthia

-Original Message-
From: Elizabeth Cunningham [mailto:drybo...@netreach.net]
Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 3:34 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] sources

I missed something.  What is SW?

 Elizabeth C

Ward Walker wrote:
> Tim,
>
> The quality of the conversion varies with the nature of the template. Some
> SW templates intersperse master and detail fields in the formatted output.
> Once the source is converted to Basic, you get all the master info followed
> by all the detail info. The result can look rather scrambled, for some
> templates. Also, certain punctuation and abbreviations (like "p." for page)
> can appear out of place or be missing.
>
> It's easy to experiment and see the results by importing the GEDCOM back
> into a test family file.
>
> Other genealogy packages have the same issue. There are several threads on
> this in the mail list archive.
>
> Ward
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Tim Rosenlof"
> To:
> Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 8:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] sources
>
>
> Brian,
>
> I understand you would loose the SW style and revert to a Basic source.
> Would that Basic source which was reverted from SW style meet/keep
> Evidence! style ?
>
> Tim Rosenlof
>
> On 12/27/2010 3:16 PM, Brian/Support wrote:
>
>> If you imported the data from a GEDCOM all the sources were created as
>> Basic style sources, even if the data was originally from Legacy as SW
>> style sources. The GEDCOM format for sources does not support the
>> detailed source fields needed by the SW system. If the data was
>> originally from Legacy you would have to import from the Legacy File in
>> order to preserve the SW sources.
>>
>> To see the Master Sources and edit them go to View>   Master Lists>
>> Sources.
>>
>> NOTE: You cannot convert a Basic Style source to SW style by the edit
>> process. You will have to create a New SW Style source for each Basic
>> Style Source in the Master Source List. There is an Add button on the
>> Source List screen that will let you create those new sources in SW style.
>>
> ...
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Re: [LegacyUG] sources

[Dennis M . Kowallek]

On Tue, 28 Dec 2010 17:33:35 -0500, Elizabeth Cunningham
 wrote:

>What is SW?

SourceWriter.

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RE: [LegacyUG] sources

[Mark Lang]

SourceWriter

Kind Regards,
Mark


> -Original Message-
> From: Elizabeth Cunningham [mailto:drybo...@netreach.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, 29 December 2010 9:04 AM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] sources
>
> I missed something.  What is SW?
>
>  Elizabeth C
>
> Ward Walker wrote:
> > Tim,
> >
> > The quality of the conversion varies with the nature of the template.
> Some
> > SW templates intersperse master and detail fields in the formatted
> output.
> > Once the source is converted to Basic, you get all the master info
> followed
> > by all the detail info. The result can look rather scrambled, for some
> > templates. Also, certain punctuation and abbreviations (like "p." for
> page)
> > can appear out of place or be missing.
> >
> > It's easy to experiment and see the results by importing the GEDCOM
> back
> > into a test family file.
> >
> > Other genealogy packages have the same issue. There are several
> threads on
> > this in the mail list archive.
> >
> > Ward
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Tim Rosenlof"
> > To:
> > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 8:58 PM
> > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] sources
> >
> >
> > Brian,
> >
> > I understand you would loose the SW style and revert to a Basic
> source.
> > Would that Basic source which was reverted from SW style meet/keep
> > Evidence! style ?
> >
> > Tim Rosenlof
> >
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Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

[Dennis M . Kowallek]

On Sun, 23 Jan 2011 14:07:24 -0500,  wrote:

>So far, nothing I have tried works.

Maybe you should tell us what you have already tried and what were the
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Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

[sarge1933]

Well, let me see: After saving my .fdb file in five places - I selected one of 
my .fdb files as a test case:

(1)  I changed the 'test.fdb' to 'test.mdb' and opened 'test.mdb' in Access, 
where I tried to prepare a query to 'append one field to another'.  Results - I 
am unable to figure out how to do that with my limited knowledge and a book 
that presumes more knowledge than I possess;

(2) I then tried saving the table 'tblSR' as an Excel file, and was able to use 
the formula '=A3&"-,&b3' to combine the two cells into another cell.  I then 
did a 'ctrl+d' to convert the data for the rest of the column. Unfortunately, 
my formula on how to convert 'values' is at work and I will not be able to make 
the cells useable insofar as to copy the column and attempt 'pasting' to the 
'tblSR' - even if it were possible.

(3) I thought a 'search and replace' might wortk, but each source is a 
standalone, so I suppose that the next issue I  need to attempt is  to open 
each Source in an edit mode and change each of the 1000+ sources I have.

I was hoping to circumvent this laborious process. I have been working for the 
past 6-8 months on data cleanup so I suppose a few weeks more on this process 
will not kill me.  Just hoping someone had an answer.

Bob
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Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

[Dennis M . Kowallek]

On Sun, 23 Jan 2011 17:38:41 -0500,  wrote:

>(1)  I changed the 'test.fdb' to 'test.mdb' and opened 'test.mdb' in Access, 
>where I tried to prepare a query to 'append one field to another'.  Results - 
>I am unable to figure out how to do that with my limited knowledge and a book 
>that presumes more knowledge than I possess;

Try something like this query...

UPDATE tblSR SET tblSR.SrcTitle = [tblSR]![SrcTitle] & " - " &
[tblSR]![FilingRef] WHERE (([tblSR]![FilingRef]<>""))

Make a backup first (sounds like you already have).

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Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

[sarge1933]

Dennis - I tried your suggested query as 'raw SQL' and it worked partially.  
Unfortunately, it removed titles (or some of them) and inserted the FilingRef 
only.  I would like to have the title composed of the SrcTitle and FilingRef, 
so that I have my end notes show a title somewhat like 'Population Buncombe 
County, NC - 1234', when Population Buncombe County NC = SrcTitle and 1234 = 
FilingRef.


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> On Sun, 23 Jan 2011 17:38:41 -0500,  wrote:
>
> >(1)  I changed the 'test.fdb' to 'test.mdb' and opened 'test.mdb' in Access, 
> >where I tried to prepare a query to 'append one field to another'.  Results 
> >- I am unable to figure out how to do that with my limited knowledge and a 
> >book that presumes more knowledge than I possess;
>
> Try something like this query...
>
> UPDATE tblSR SET tblSR.SrcTitle = [tblSR]![SrcTitle] & " - " &
> [tblSR]![FilingRef] WHERE (([tblSR]![FilingRef]<>""))
>
> Make a backup first (sounds like you already have).
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Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

[Dennis M . Kowallek]

On Sun, 23 Jan 2011 20:15:42 -0500,  wrote:

>Dennis - I tried your suggested query as 'raw SQL' and it worked partially.  
>Unfortunately, it removed titles (or some of them) and inserted the FilingRef 
>only.  I would like to have the title composed of the SrcTitle and FilingRef, 
>so that I have my end notes show a title somewhat like 'Population Buncombe 
>County, NC - 1234', when Population Buncombe County NC = SrcTitle and 1234 = 
>FilingRef.

I don't see how this could have happened. Please send me (off list) your
.fdb file (before running my query) and the name of one of the sources
that ends up being incorrect.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

[sarge1933]

Dennis - my profound apologies - after looking at my files more closely, I 
realize that your suggestion worked perfectly.  What I overlooked is that a 
great number of my sources 'HAVE NO TITLE' (emphasis added to show my 
oversight), so of course what was in the 'title' subsequent to the 'run' was 
exactly what I had in my file - 'nothing in title + the FilingRef' equalled 
what I was seeing was just the 'FilingRef'.  Your code worked as you indicated, 
it was my misreading the end results.

Can you suggest a book to educate me on the intricacies of the coding in your 
SQL?  I suspect it is VBA, but I am ignorant of its workings?

Bob


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> On Sun, 23 Jan 2011 20:15:42 -0500,  wrote:
>
> >Dennis - I tried your suggested query as 'raw SQL' and it worked partially.  
> >Unfortunately, it removed titles (or some of them) and inserted the 
> >FilingRef only.  I would like to have the title composed of the SrcTitle and 
> >FilingRef, so that I have my end notes show a title somewhat like 
> >'Population Buncombe County, NC - 1234', when Population Buncombe County NC 
> >= SrcTitle and 1234 = FilingRef.
>
> I don't see how this could have happened. Please send me (off list) your
> .fdb file (before running my query) and the name of one of the sources
> that ends up being incorrect.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

[Dennis M . Kowallek]

On Mon, 24 Jan 2011 7:05:23 -0500,  wrote:

>Dennis - my profound apologies - after looking at my files more closely, I 
>realize that your suggestion worked perfectly.  What I overlooked is that a 
>great number of my sources 'HAVE NO TITLE' (emphasis added to show my 
>oversight), so of course what was in the 'title' subsequent to the 'run' was 
>exactly what I had in my file - 'nothing in title + the FilingRef' equalled 
>what I was seeing was just the 'FilingRef'.  Your code worked as you 
>indicated, it was my misreading the end results.

You can change it so the FilingRef won't be appended in this case as
follows...

UPDATE tblSR SET tblSR.SrcTitle = [tblSR]![SrcTitle] & " - " &
[tblSR]![FilingRef] WHERE (([tblSR]![FilingRef]<>"") AND
([tblSR]![SrcTitle]<>""))

I wrongly assumed that all your master sources had titles.

>Can you suggest a book to educate me on the intricacies of the coding in your 
>SQL?  I suspect it is VBA, but I am ignorant of its workings?

I don't know of a book to recommend. I learned all this stuff 20 years
ago ... my company offered a 3 day training course in SQL.

I always liked the w3schools website for a quick reference...

http://www.w3schools.com/sql/default.asp

But I'm sure they don't get into the MS Access "flavor" of SQL. For that
you probably want to look at the Help that comes with Access.

In English, my query is setting the new title equal to the old title
plus " - " plus the fileid IF the both the old title AND the fileid are
populated.

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Re: [LegacyUG] sources

[Wendy Howard]

> When I entered a source, I mistakenly put it into Unspecified when it
> should have been under census.  How can I move it from the unspecified
> to census?
>

You could copy the source into the Source Clipboard, assign it to the
field you want it in, then delete it from the Unspecified field.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

[Sherry/Support]

SourceWriter has "Email" listed under "Type of Source".  You would use
that template.



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On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 6:52 PM, Dean Adams  wrote:
> Recently I received E-Mails from my cousins containing biograpical
> information on their deceased parents.  It includes dates and locations of
> births, marriages, deaths, etc.  This is the only documentation I have on
> these individuals.  How should this be sourced in Legacy?
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Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

[Paula Ryburn]

Is it equally valid to call it "Personal Knowledge" and include the method of
transfer of that knowledge to you in the detail citation?  Then everything from
that person would sort together?  Or is that just a master source list Name
question?  (not a template question)  Thx.
 --Paula in Texas
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Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field
Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle
Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn
Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams





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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

SourceWriter has "Email" listed under "Type of Source".  You would use
that template.



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On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 6:52 PM, Dean Adams  wrote:
> Recently I received E-Mails from my cousins containing biograpical
> information on their deceased parents.  It includes dates and locations of
> births, marriages, deaths, etc.  This is the only documentation I have on
> these individuals.  How should this be sourced in Legacy?
>
> Dean Adams

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Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

[Robert E. Carneal]

*I think it is.  I have some sources in my file where I indicate, "From the
conversation of Aunt Melissa's son, 1992. As long as they are his or her
*personal* knowledge or personal memories conveyed directly to you, I would
say it is fine.   Personal knowledge and/or personal memories are master
sources to me.

On the other hand, when a person says to me, "Well, Joe said his brother's
son's wife's sister's daughter found out one of our ancestors used to live
in Miami," I don't accept that as a solid source.  No way to track that
back and confirm it.  To me, that would be more of a secondary source, and
worth a note. To me, unconfirmable sources are not primary sources. They
can either secondary sources or just notes.

I have even sat down with a relative with a list of questions, two gallons
of tea, a tape recorder, and just ask questions and let him/her talk,
answer my questions, and usually I get a few stories in the process!
Later, I get someone to transcribe the tape for me so I can a paper copy
and a audio copy.  It helps- if I later talk to someone else, and they
wonder where I got that, I can show the transcript.  I am VERY careful that
I don't share anything accusatory or inflammatory with another family
member. That is a good bridge burner.
*
*Thank you.

**Robert*
*Genealogy without documentation is mythology! Always SOURCE your work.*


On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 9:24 AM, Paula Ryburn wrote:

> Is it equally valid to call it "Personal Knowledge" and include the method
> of transfer of that knowledge to you in the detail citation?  Then
> everything from that person would sort together?  Or is that just a master
> source list Name question?  (not a template question)  Thx.
>
> --Paula in Texas
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Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

[Mike Fry]

On 2011/11/10 17:37, Robert E. Carneal wrote:

> On the other hand, when a person says to me, "Well, Joe said his brother's
> son's wife's sister's daughter found out one of our ancestors used to live in
> Miami," I don't accept that as a solid source.  No way to track that back
> and confirm it.  To me, that would be more of a secondary source, and worth a
> note. To me, unconfirmable sources are not primary sources. They can either
> secondary sources or just notes.

One can always create an Event Type named Hearsay :-)

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[Paula Ryburn]

Or put in Research Notes or a To Do item. ;)  Tho I like "Hearsay"...
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To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Thu, November 10, 2011 10:30:43 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

On 2011/11/10 17:37, Robert E. Carneal wrote:

> On the other hand, when a person says to me, "Well, Joe said his brother's
> son's wife's sister's daughter found out one of our ancestors used to live in
> Miami," I don't accept that as a solid source.  No way to track that back
> and confirm it.  To me, that would be more of a secondary source, and worth a
> note. To me, unconfirmable sources are not primary sources. They can either
> secondary sources or just notes.

One can always create an Event Type named Hearsay :-)

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[Paula Ryburn]

I take back the last 2 questions.  I have just one master source for a person,
and I use the Basic format.
 --Paula in Texas
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Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field
Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle
Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn
Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams





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To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Thu, November 10, 2011 9:24:00 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sources


Is it equally valid to call it "Personal Knowledge" and include the method of
transfer of that knowledge to you in the detail citation?  Then everything from
that person would sort together?  Or is that just a master source list Name
question?  (not a template question)  Thx.
 






From: Sherry/Support 
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Tue, November 8, 2011 9:04:57 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

SourceWriter has "Email" listed under "Type of Source".  You would use
that template.



Sincerely,
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On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 6:52 PM, Dean Adams  wrote:
> Recently I received E-Mails from my cousins containing biograpical
> information on their deceased parents.  It includes dates and locations of
> births, marriages, deaths, etc.  This is the only documentation I have on
> these individuals.  How should this be sourced in Legacy?
>
> Dean Adams

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Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

[Jerry]

Yeah, that's kind of my thinking also, but I still don't have a good 
understanding of REPOSITORIES?  Could it be constructed so that personal 
knowledge of is the source and the email is the repository??   Jerry

Paula Ryburn  wrote:

>Is it equally valid to call it "Personal Knowledge" and include the method of
>transfer of that knowledge to you in the detail citation?  Then everything from
>that person would sort together?  Or is that just a master source list Name
>question?  (not a template question)  Thx.
> --Paula in Texas
>Researching:  Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman
>Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field
>Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle
>Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche 
>Ryburn
>Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams
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>From: Sherry/Support 
>To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>Sent: Tue, November 8, 2011 9:04:57 PM
>Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sources
>
>SourceWriter has "Email" listed under "Type of Source".  You would use
>that template.
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>Sincerely,
>Sherry
>Technical Support
>Legacy Family Tree
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>On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 6:52 PM, Dean Adams  wrote:
>> Recently I received E-Mails from my cousins containing biograpical
>> information on their deceased parents.  It includes dates and locations of
>> births, marriages, deaths, etc.  This is the only documentation I have on
>> these individuals.  How should this be sourced in Legacy?
>>
>> Dean Adams
>
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