Re: [LegacyUG] Location defaults changed
Mike, I usually do read the thread, to know if the specifics of the topic affect or interest me and to determine if I would like to post a reply or question. I did read the thread this time, too. The programmer changed the way the country is returned when you use the Geo Location Database. (Sherry) This statement would imply that a change is made whenever you invoke the Geo Location db. Further, my question was about United States being added to the Location... not just a conversion of USA to United States. --Paula From: Mike Fry mike...@iafrica.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Tue, March 20, 2012 2:54:54 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Location defaults changed On 2012/03/20 07:51, Paula Ryburn wrote: Say we haven't been using the country for our locations in the US...? Is United States going to suddenly appear if I use the Geo Loc db? Read the thread! It only affects *new* Locations and those that you edit. -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Location defaults changed
My bad, Mike... I did not read your whole sentence in your post: and those that you edit However, I still don't see where my question was answered in the thread. Say we haven't been using the country for our locations in the US...? Is United States going to suddenly appear if I use the Geo Loc db? Meaning, if I invoke the Geo Location database for a US location and I don't have US or USA as part of the location name, is the Geo Location db going to add United States to my locations that are in the United States? --Paula From: Paula Ryburn paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Wed, March 21, 2012 10:13:37 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Location defaults changed Mike, I usually do read the thread, to know if the specifics of the topic affect or interest me and to determine if I would like to post a reply or question. I did read the thread this time, too. The programmer changed the way the country is returned when you use the Geo Location Database. (Sherry) This statement would imply that a change is made whenever you invoke the Geo Location db. Further, my question was about United States being added to the Location... not just a conversion of USA to United States. --Paula From: Mike Fry mike...@iafrica.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Tue, March 20, 2012 2:54:54 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Location defaults changed On 2012/03/20 07:51, Paula Ryburn wrote: Say we haven't been using the country for our locations in the US...? Is United States going to suddenly appear if I use the Geo Loc db? Read the thread! It only affects *new* Locations and those that you edit. -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Location defaults changed
When the GeoDb gives you the location name in the Core and Core+ sections for you to select United States will be part of the name. You are free to edit that wording before you select the location so you can delete United States from the location before selecting it. Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation br...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. Thanks. On 21/03/2012 12:46 PM, Paula Ryburn wrote: My bad, Mike... I did not read your whole sentence in your post: and those that you edit However, I still don't see where my question was answered in the thread. Say we haven't been using the country for our locations in the US...? Is United States going to suddenly appear if I use the Geo Loc db? Meaning, if I invoke the Geo Location database for a US location and I don't have US or USA as part of the location name, is the Geo Location db going to add United States to my locations that are in the United States? --Paula Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Location defaults changed
On 2012/03/20 07:51, Paula Ryburn wrote: Say we haven't been using the country for our locations in the US...? Is United States going to suddenly appear if I use the Geo Loc db? Read the thread! It only affects *new* Locations and those that you edit. -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Location defaults changed
Say we haven't been using the country for our locations in the US...? Is United States going to suddenly appear if I use the Geo Loc db? --Paula From: Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Mon, March 12, 2012 10:26:45 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Location defaults changed It was changed to United States because that's the standard for submitting data to the newFamilySearch site. The programmer changed the way the country is returned when you use the Geo Location Database. We need to comply with their standards for not only the LDS users but anyone who wishes to contribute to that database. You can always change it back by going to the Master Location List and clicking on Options Expand/Contract Location Parts. Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 6:45 AM, Gene Young n2...@cfl.rr.com wrote: Has anyone else noticed that once again Millenia has decided that they are smarter than the end users and changed the default behavior of location entries? I used to enter a new location for the USA and the location had USA in it. Millenia must have decided that I was too stupid to really know what I want and changed it to United States. No warning, no way to change it back to the correct way (the correct way being what I want, not what Millenia thinks I should want.) ??? Why do they continuously change my database with out my permission. If they are going to change something they should give fair warning and a means to change the default back to what the USER prefers, not what Millenia decides the user should use. And if there is a means to change the default it should be so noted in the help file. I am starting to see why there have been so many posts from unhappy users of late. -- Gene Young Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Location defaults changed
On 2012/03/13 02:31, Vivian Gullickson White wrote: Well, if you read the Revision History for 12 Feb 2012 before you upgraded it tells you: http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/RevisionHistory7.asp Changed Items Geo Location Database - It will now return United States instead of USA when selecting a location from the USA. I usually look at the changes before I update to see if I really wish to update at this time:) So do I! I think the BIG problem is that when an update becomes available, other than this list, the notification method is via the Updates section of the Legacy Home tab. People see that there's an update and click on the link. If they were to click on the section title, Updates, they would get a window that allows them to 'See What's New' before they launched willy-nilly into the download. So, it's really a case of caveat emptor! Me! I prefer not to upgrade from the web and to download the full, 46Mb, Legacy7Setup file, which, after downloading, I immediately rename by suffixing it with the version number, thus creating a historical list of files going back to the original 7.0.0.109 :-) -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Location defaults changed
People complain about it defaulting to United States. I would bet money people complained before when it defaulted to USA. You just can't please everyone no matter how hard you try. michele -Original Message- From: Mike Fry [mailto:mike...@iafrica.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 4:41 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Location defaults changed On 2012/03/13 02:31, Vivian Gullickson White wrote: Well, if you read the Revision History for 12 Feb 2012 before you upgraded it tells you: http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/RevisionHistory7.asp Changed Items Geo Location Database - It will now return United States instead of USA when selecting a location from the USA. I usually look at the changes before I update to see if I really wish to update at this time:) So do I! I think the BIG problem is that when an update becomes available, other than this list, the notification method is via the Updates section of the Legacy Home tab. People see that there's an update and click on the link. If they were to click on the section title, Updates, they would get a window that allows them to 'See What's New' before they launched willy-nilly into the download. So, it's really a case of caveat emptor! Me! I prefer not to upgrade from the web and to download the full, 46Mb, Legacy7Setup file, which, after downloading, I immediately rename by suffixing it with the version number, thus creating a historical list of files going back to the original 7.0.0.109 :-) -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Location defaults changed
People aren't complaining about what it defaults to. They are complaint about Millennia changing what they had made a conscious decision to use. Big difference. As far as pleasing everyone - don't cavalierly change people's data and they will be happy. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 13, 2012, at 7:47 AM, Michele Lewis ancestor...@gmail.com wrote: People complain about it defaulting to United States. I would bet money people complained before when it defaulted to USA. You just can't please everyone no matter how hard you try. michele -Original Message- From: Mike Fry [mailto:mike...@iafrica.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 4:41 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Location defaults changed On 2012/03/13 02:31, Vivian Gullickson White wrote: Well, if you read the Revision History for 12 Feb 2012 before you upgraded it tells you: http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/RevisionHistory7.asp Changed Items Geo Location Database - It will now return United States instead of USA when selecting a location from the USA. I usually look at the changes before I update to see if I really wish to update at this time:) So do I! I think the BIG problem is that when an update becomes available, other than this list, the notification method is via the Updates section of the Legacy Home tab. People see that there's an update and click on the link. If they were to click on the section title, Updates, they would get a window that allows them to 'See What's New' before they launched willy-nilly into the download. So, it's really a case of caveat emptor! Me! I prefer not to upgrade from the web and to download the full, 46Mb, Legacy7Setup file, which, after downloading, I immediately rename by suffixing it with the version number, thus creating a historical list of files going back to the original 7.0.0.109 :-) -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Location defaults changed
But, did Millennia change anybody's master locations? From what I hear, they changed a system default used when you are adding a new location! And, back then did you have any choice between USA and United States, or is it that you who are complaining just liked the old default better? To suggest that changing a default used when adding a NEW location is changing your data seems to be overstating the case. A system default is not anyone's data. Paul -Original Message- From: Ronald Bernier [mailto:ronaldbern...@bernfrin.org] Sent: March-13-12 6:09 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Location defaults changed People aren't complaining about what it defaults to. They are complaint about Millennia changing what they had made a conscious decision to use. Big difference. As far as pleasing everyone - don't cavalierly change people's data and they will be happy. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 13, 2012, at 7:47 AM, Michele Lewis ancestor...@gmail.com wrote: People complain about it defaulting to United States. I would bet money people complained before when it defaulted to USA. You just can't please everyone no matter how hard you try. michele -Original Message- From: Mike Fry [mailto:mike...@iafrica.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 4:41 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Location defaults changed On 2012/03/13 02:31, Vivian Gullickson White wrote: Well, if you read the Revision History for 12 Feb 2012 before you upgraded it tells you: http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/RevisionHistory7.asp Changed Items Geo Location Database - It will now return United States instead of USA when selecting a location from the USA. I usually look at the changes before I update to see if I really wish to update at this time:) So do I! I think the BIG problem is that when an update becomes available, other than this list, the notification method is via the Updates section of the Legacy Home tab. People see that there's an update and click on the link. If they were to click on the section title, Updates, they would get a window that allows them to 'See What's New' before they launched willy-nilly into the download. So, it's really a case of caveat emptor! Me! I prefer not to upgrade from the web and to download the full, 46Mb, Legacy7Setup file, which, after downloading, I immediately rename by suffixing it with the version number, thus creating a historical list of files going back to the original 7.0.0.109 :-) -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Location defaults changed
Paul makes sense. On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 8:37 AM, Paul Gray grayp...@telus.net wrote: But, did Millennia change anybody's master locations? From what I hear, they changed a system default used when you are adding a new location! And, back then did you have any choice between USA and United States, or is it that you who are complaining just liked the old default better? To suggest that changing a default used when adding a NEW location is changing your data seems to be overstating the case. A system default is not anyone's data. Paul -Original Message- From: Ronald Bernier [mailto:ronaldbern...@bernfrin.org] Sent: March-13-12 6:09 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Location defaults changed People aren't complaining about what it defaults to. They are complaint about Millennia changing what they had made a conscious decision to use. Big difference. As far as pleasing everyone - don't cavalierly change people's data and they will be happy. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 13, 2012, at 7:47 AM, Michele Lewis ancestor...@gmail.com wrote: People complain about it defaulting to United States. I would bet money people complained before when it defaulted to USA. You just can't please everyone no matter how hard you try. michele -Original Message- From: Mike Fry [mailto:mike...@iafrica.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 4:41 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Location defaults changed On 2012/03/13 02:31, Vivian Gullickson White wrote: Well, if you read the Revision History for 12 Feb 2012 before you upgraded it tells you: http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/RevisionHistory7.asp Changed Items Geo Location Database - It will now return United States instead of USA when selecting a location from the USA. I usually look at the changes before I update to see if I really wish to update at this time:) So do I! I think the BIG problem is that when an update becomes available, other than this list, the notification method is via the Updates section of the Legacy Home tab. People see that there's an update and click on the link. If they were to click on the section title, Updates, they would get a window that allows them to 'See What's New' before they launched willy-nilly into the download. So, it's really a case of caveat emptor! Me! I prefer not to upgrade from the web and to download the full, 46Mb, Legacy7Setup file, which, after downloading, I immediately rename by suffixing it with the version number, thus creating a historical list of files going back to the original 7.0.0.109 :-) -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe
Re: [LegacyUG] Location defaults changed
On 3/13/2012 8:37 AM, Paul Gray wrote: But, did Millennia change anybody's master locations? From what I hear, they changed a system default used when you are adding a new location! And, back then did you have any choice between USA and United States, or is it that you who are complaining just liked the old default better? To suggest that changing a default used when adding a NEW location is changing your data seems to be overstating the case. A system default is not anyone's data. Paul It does change your database when every new location you enter is entered in a default that is different from what you are and have been using. The point is I should not have to take the extra steps needed to change every new entry back to the form I prefer to use. And to answer those who seem to think that if someone doesn't give their data to a specific organization then they are not sharing, what an arrogant attitude. I will choose where I share my data and if it is not where you want it, too bad. -- Gene Young Researching Young, Harer, Cox Sallada With Legacy Family Tree http://myyoungs.atspace.com/index.htm Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Location defaults changed
Ok, I understand that it is different than what you used to use. But, is the fact that you need to change it every time if you don't like the default any different than before? If your standard used to be United States, and you were using the system before the last change would it return USA and force you to change it? What I'm trying to get at is, whether in the old version of the system, you could set the default to either United States or USA or whatever and not be forced to change every new location, or whether the system behaviour is identical to before except for the default value used? Paul Gray -Original Message- From: Gene Young [mailto:n2...@cfl.rr.com] Sent: March-13-12 6:50 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Location defaults changed On 3/13/2012 8:37 AM, Paul Gray wrote: But, did Millennia change anybody's master locations? From what I hear, they changed a system default used when you are adding a new location! And, back then did you have any choice between USA and United States, or is it that you who are complaining just liked the old default better? To suggest that changing a default used when adding a NEW location is changing your data seems to be overstating the case. A system default is not anyone's data. Paul It does change your database when every new location you enter is entered in a default that is different from what you are and have been using. The point is I should not have to take the extra steps needed to change every new entry back to the form I prefer to use. And to answer those who seem to think that if someone doesn't give their data to a specific organization then they are not sharing, what an arrogant attitude. I will choose where I share my data and if it is not where you want it, too bad. -- Gene Young Researching Young, Harer, Cox Sallada With Legacy Family Tree http://myyoungs.atspace.com/index.htm Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Location defaults changed
According to the release notes from 12 Feb 2012, this happens when using Geo Location database when creating a new location. With the way the complaints were flying in here, you'd think that all of the existing locations were being changed. Mary On Mar 13, 2012, at 8:37 AM, Paul Gray grayp...@telus.net wrote: But, did Millennia change anybody's master locations? From what I hear, they changed a system default used when you are adding a new location! And, back then did you have any choice between USA and United States, or is it that you who are complaining just liked the old default better? To suggest that changing a default used when adding a NEW location is changing your data seems to be overstating the case. A system default is not anyone's data. Paul On 2012/03/13 02:31, Vivian Gullickson White wrote: Well, if you read the Revision History for 12 Feb 2012 before you upgraded it tells you: http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/RevisionHistory7.asp Changed Items Geo Location Database - It will now return United States instead of USA when selecting a location from the USA. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Location defaults changed
On 2012/03/13 14:50, Gene Young wrote: It does change your database when every new location you enter is entered in a default that is different from what you are and have been using. The point is I should not have to take the extra steps needed to change every new entry back to the form I prefer to use. So... edit GeoCountryCodes.txt and set it back to what it was! Then, make it read-only. A future update shouldn't then be able to replace it. -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Location defaults changed
On 3/13/2012 9:06 AM, Paul Gray wrote: Ok, I understand that it is different than what you used to use. But, is the fact that you need to change it every time if you don't like the default any different than before? If your standard used to be United States, and you were using the system before the last change would it return USA and force you to change it? What I'm trying to get at is, whether in the old version of the system, you could set the default to either United States or USA or whatever and not be forced to change every new location, or whether the system behaviour is identical to before except for the default value used? Paul Gray No it is not like before. I used to be able to make a location entry then move on. Now I have the added step of having to edit EVERY new entry to bring it into compliance with the format I choose. Adding extra work to achieve the same result is not progress. It they want to change something, do it as a choice. -- Gene Young Researching Young, Harer, Cox Sallada With Legacy Family Tree http://myyoungs.atspace.com/index.htm Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Location defaults changed
Gene, I don't think you really answered my question. If in the past, if you wished to use United States, would you have had to edit every new entry? Since nobody has replied to the contrary, I am assuming the answer is yes. My issue with all this is that I think you are misrepresenting the issue. The statement 'Legacy is changing my data' implies that that the upgrade actually changed some existing data, and I can't see that it did. What it seems to be is that you don't like the new default value used. You seem to be no worse off than the person who previously wanted to use 'United States', and had the system return 'USA'. That's a valid concern, but it should be stated as such. Legacy did not change your existing data. It is causing you extra work because your preference is not the same as the new system default, and that is the accurate description of the issue. Paul -Original Message- From: Gene Young [mailto:n2...@cfl.rr.com] Sent: March-13-12 8:13 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Location defaults changed On 3/13/2012 9:06 AM, Paul Gray wrote: Ok, I understand that it is different than what you used to use. But, is the fact that you need to change it every time if you don't like the default any different than before? If your standard used to be United States, and you were using the system before the last change would it return USA and force you to change it? What I'm trying to get at is, whether in the old version of the system, you could set the default to either United States or USA or whatever and not be forced to change every new location, or whether the system behaviour is identical to before except for the default value used? Paul Gray No it is not like before. I used to be able to make a location entry then move on. Now I have the added step of having to edit EVERY new entry to bring it into compliance with the format I choose. Adding extra work to achieve the same result is not progress. It they want to change something, do it as a choice. -- Gene Young Researching Young, Harer, Cox Sallada With Legacy Family Tree http://myyoungs.atspace.com/index.htm Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Location defaults changed
On 3/13/2012 10:06 AM, Mike Fry wrote: On 2012/03/13 14:50, Gene Young wrote: It does change your database when every new location you enter is entered in a default that is different from what you are and have been using. The point is I should not have to take the extra steps needed to change every new entry back to the form I prefer to use. So... edit GeoCountryCodes.txt and set it back to what it was! Then, make it read-only. A future update shouldn't then be able to replace it. And therein is my basic complaint. Dave Naylor sent a private email (Please respond to the list in the future so that all my benefit.) This is information that should have been made readily available (like in the help file). I include the bulk of Dave's email for others who may need it. --BEGIN QUOTE A long time ago Millennia provided the flexibility to have our locations as we wanted them and provided full instructions about how to change the defaults. This all still exists, but the instructions are no longer around and no one seems to know or are willing to mention how. Legacy's Geo defaults are in 4 separate files named Geo*.txt These files can be updated by Millennia at any time so *user* defaults should not be set in them. Instead you copy the appropriate file -- for the USA this is the GeoCountryCodes.txt -- so you will have your defaults/modifications in GeoCountryCodes-Alt.txt When Legacy runs it checks to see if there is a user -Alt file to provide the defaults. If not it uses Millennia's Geo... file with the -Alt in the name. The change you need to make to your GeoCountryCodes-Alt.txt file is near the bottom in the USA section where you should remove the + sign prefixing United States. The lack of a plus sign signifies that USA should be used for long locations. The lack of a minus sign signifies that USA should be used for short locations. If you wanted all your USA locations to have Gene for the country for long locations you would be add a new line USA|+Gene --BEGIN QUOTE Millenia makes the best genealogy program by far, however, they all too often rush a new feature to release with out any effort to have the help files keep pace. If this information had been in the help file where it belongs, I would have found it, corrected it and moved on with out even posting about it. This failure to keep the help files updated has been noted and commented on by many others. It is time for this most important file for Legacy to be brought to a current status with appropriate information. I am done preaching and this subject is closed as far as I am concerned. I hope Millenia takes this hint and updates the help files, however, judging from past performance in this area, I think I will refrain from holding my breath as my grand-kids say I don't look good in blue. Thanks to Dave for the info. I had it, but lost it when my last computer died. I now have it saved to a separate location. -- Gene Young Researching Young, Harer, Cox Sallada With Legacy Family Tree http://myyoungs.atspace.com/index.htm Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Location defaults changed
Regarding the statement (see in context below) When Legacy runs it checks to see if there is a user -Alt file to provide the defaults. If not it uses Millennia's Geo... file with the -Alt in the name. Should that not read WITHOUT where indicated below When Legacy runs it checks to see if there is a user -Alt file to provide the defaults. If not it uses Millennia's Geo... file (i.e THE ONE WITHOUT the -Alt in the name. The original wording implies that the system always uses the Alt file. Paul -Original Message- From: Gene Young [mailto:n2...@cfl.rr.com] Sent: March-13-12 8:51 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Location defaults changed On 3/13/2012 10:06 AM, Mike Fry wrote: On 2012/03/13 14:50, Gene Young wrote: It does change your database when every new location you enter is entered in a default that is different from what you are and have been using. The point is I should not have to take the extra steps needed to change every new entry back to the form I prefer to use. So... edit GeoCountryCodes.txt and set it back to what it was! Then, make it read-only. A future update shouldn't then be able to replace it. And therein is my basic complaint. Dave Naylor sent a private email (Please respond to the list in the future so that all my benefit.) This is information that should have been made readily available (like in the help file). I include the bulk of Dave's email for others who may need it. --BEGIN QUOTE A long time ago Millennia provided the flexibility to have our locations as we wanted them and provided full instructions about how to change the defaults. This all still exists, but the instructions are no longer around and no one seems to know or are willing to mention how. Legacy's Geo defaults are in 4 separate files named Geo*.txt These files can be updated by Millennia at any time so *user* defaults should not be set in them. Instead you copy the appropriate file -- for the USA this is the GeoCountryCodes.txt -- so you will have your defaults/modifications in GeoCountryCodes-Alt.txt When Legacy runs it checks to see if there is a user -Alt file to provide the defaults. If not it uses Millennia's Geo... file with the -Alt in the name. The change you need to make to your GeoCountryCodes-Alt.txt file is near the bottom in the USA section where you should remove the + sign prefixing United States. The lack of a plus sign signifies that USA should be used for long locations. The lack of a minus sign signifies that USA should be used for short locations. If you wanted all your USA locations to have Gene for the country for long locations you would be add a new line USA|+Gene --BEGIN QUOTE Millenia makes the best genealogy program by far, however, they all too often rush a new feature to release with out any effort to have the help files keep pace. If this information had been in the help file where it belongs, I would have found it, corrected it and moved on with out even posting about it. This failure to keep the help files updated has been noted and commented on by many others. It is time for this most important file for Legacy to be brought to a current status with appropriate information. I am done preaching and this subject is closed as far as I am concerned. I hope Millenia takes this hint and updates the help files, however, judging from past performance in this area, I think I will refrain from holding my breath as my grand-kids say I don't look good in blue. Thanks to Dave for the info. I had it, but lost it when my last computer died. I now have it saved to a separate location. -- Gene Young Researching Young, Harer, Cox Sallada With Legacy Family Tree http://myyoungs.atspace.com/index.htm Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
Re: [LegacyUG] Location defaults changed
I knew these possibily to change countrynames. However I did just a test: In the file GeoCountryCodes as well in GeoCountryCodes-Alt I made following addition (removing the existing entries voor USA and United States) I put in the dutch name for USA+ USA|+Verenigde Staten van Amerika USA|-USA United States|+Verenigde Staten van Amerika United States|-USA As I want to add a new place into my locationlist: Baltimore, Maryland, USA, Legacy gives me Baltimore, Baltimore (City), Maryland, United States. As well in long name as in short name. So I have now the idea that Legacy donot check the Geo files. Bert - Original Message - From: Gene Young n2...@cfl.rr.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Tuesday 13 March 2012 15:51 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Location defaults changed On 3/13/2012 10:06 AM, Mike Fry wrote: On 2012/03/13 14:50, Gene Young wrote: It does change your database when every new location you enter is entered in a default that is different from what you are and have been using. The point is I should not have to take the extra steps needed to change every new entry back to the form I prefer to use. So... edit GeoCountryCodes.txt and set it back to what it was! Then, make it read-only. A future update shouldn't then be able to replace it. And therein is my basic complaint. Dave Naylor sent a private email (Please respond to the list in the future so that all my benefit.) This is information that should have been made readily available (like in the help file). I include the bulk of Dave's email for others who may need it. --BEGIN QUOTE A long time ago Millennia provided the flexibility to have our locations as we wanted them and provided full instructions about how to change the defaults. This all still exists, but the instructions are no longer around and no one seems to know or are willing to mention how. Legacy's Geo defaults are in 4 separate files named Geo*.txt These files can be updated by Millennia at any time so *user* defaults should not be set in them. Instead you copy the appropriate file -- for the USA this is the GeoCountryCodes.txt -- so you will have your defaults/modifications in GeoCountryCodes-Alt.txt When Legacy runs it checks to see if there is a user -Alt file to provide the defaults. If not it uses Millennia's Geo... file with the -Alt in the name. The change you need to make to your GeoCountryCodes-Alt.txt file is near the bottom in the USA section where you should remove the + sign prefixing United States. The lack of a plus sign signifies that USA should be used for long locations. The lack of a minus sign signifies that USA should be used for short locations. If you wanted all your USA locations to have Gene for the country for long locations you would be add a new line USA|+Gene --BEGIN QUOTE Millenia makes the best genealogy program by far, however, they all too often rush a new feature to release with out any effort to have the help files keep pace. If this information had been in the help file where it belongs, I would have found it, corrected it and moved on with out even posting about it. This failure to keep the help files updated has been noted and commented on by many others. It is time for this most important file for Legacy to be brought to a current status with appropriate information. I am done preaching and this subject is closed as far as I am concerned. I hope Millenia takes this hint and updates the help files, however, judging from past performance in this area, I think I will refrain from holding my breath as my grand-kids say I don't look good in blue. Thanks to Dave for the info. I had it, but lost it when my last computer died. I now have it saved to a separate location. -- Gene Young Researching Young, Harer, Cox Sallada With Legacy Family Tree http://myyoungs.atspace.com/index.htm Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http
Re: [LegacyUG] Location defaults changed
On 3/12/2012 9:49 AM, James Cook wrote: Couldn't say for sure, but under Options in the View - Master Lists - Locations, there are options to switch between USA and United States. I expect the option was simply defaulted to United States as this is the consistency/standard promoted by Family Search and is necessary should one wish to use the Legacy Family Search tool. Shouldn't be a big deal to switch it back, though I understand the frustration of having your data mangled w/o warning. - jc Thank you for the response Jamesm however there is no option to change this in View - Master Lists - Locations. I believe you are referring to the selection to expand/contract location names. This apparently only acts on existing entries that Legacy has already screwed up. I searched everywhere for a location to change the default, including scouring the help file, before I posted. That is what really has me PO'ed. If you change something that will clearly adversely affect the end users, update the help file with directions on how to make it right again. -- Gene Young Researching Young, Harer, Cox Sallada With Legacy Family Tree http://myyoungs.atspace.com/index.htm Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Location defaults changed
Ah, you are right, that's what I was thinking of. Frustrating for sure! On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 9:13 AM, Gene Young n2...@cfl.rr.com wrote: I believe you are referring to the selection to expand/contract location names. This apparently only acts on existing entries that Legacy has already screwed up. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Location defaults changed
It was changed to United States because that's the standard for submitting data to the newFamilySearch site. The programmer changed the way the country is returned when you use the Geo Location Database. We need to comply with their standards for not only the LDS users but anyone who wishes to contribute to that database. You can always change it back by going to the Master Location List and clicking on Options Expand/Contract Location Parts. Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 6:45 AM, Gene Young n2...@cfl.rr.com wrote: Has anyone else noticed that once again Millenia has decided that they are smarter than the end users and changed the default behavior of location entries? I used to enter a new location for the USA and the location had USA in it. Millenia must have decided that I was too stupid to really know what I want and changed it to United States. No warning, no way to change it back to the correct way (the correct way being what I want, not what Millenia thinks I should want.) ??? Why do they continuously change my database with out my permission. If they are going to change something they should give fair warning and a means to change the default back to what the USER prefers, not what Millenia decides the user should use. And if there is a means to change the default it should be so noted in the help file. I am starting to see why there have been so many posts from unhappy users of late. -- Gene Young Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Location defaults changed
could you do a global search and replace; I noticed when I was adding a few this switch I just fixed it on the new entries and made a note when I add a location that I need to correct. It would be nice to have a work around AND if these changes were highlighted before - and i know you can check what the changes are but highlighting the biggies would just be thoughtful. On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 8:26 AM, Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote: It was changed to United States because that's the standard for submitting data to the newFamilySearch site. The programmer changed the way the country is returned when you use the Geo Location Database. We need to comply with their standards for not only the LDS users but anyone who wishes to contribute to that database. You can always change it back by going to the Master Location List and clicking on Options Expand/Contract Location Parts. Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 6:45 AM, Gene Young n2...@cfl.rr.com wrote: Has anyone else noticed that once again Millenia has decided that they are smarter than the end users and changed the default behavior of location entries? I used to enter a new location for the USA and the location had USA in it. Millenia must have decided that I was too stupid to really know what I want and changed it to United States. No warning, no way to change it back to the correct way (the correct way being what I want, not what Millenia thinks I should want.) ??? Why do they continuously change my database with out my permission. If they are going to change something they should give fair warning and a means to change the default back to what the USER prefers, not what Millenia decides the user should use. And if there is a means to change the default it should be so noted in the help file. I am starting to see why there have been so many posts from unhappy users of late. -- Gene Young Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Location defaults changed
Thanks Randy - I will now go and read what is changed before I update. On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 9:23 AM, Randy Clark ceddaco...@gmail.com wrote: There was a headsup on the Feb 15 revisions noted at http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/RevisionHistory7.asp On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Tessa murke...@gmail.com wrote: I agree - I was only trying to provide a workaround. Legacy does need to remember that many of us are not going to put information on public trees. And as I said I would rather get a heads up from Legacy about this type of change than figure it out on my own when I find inconsistencies in my database not caused by me. On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 9:08 AM, Gene Young n2...@cfl.rr.com wrote: On 3/12/2012 11:49 AM, Tessa wrote: could you do a global search and replace; I noticed when I was adding a few this switch I just fixed it on the new entries and made a note when I add a location that I need to correct. It would be nice to have a work around AND if these changes were highlighted before - and i know you can check what the changes are but highlighting the biggies would just be thoughtful. On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 8:26 AM, Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote: It was changed to United States because that's the standard for submitting data to the newFamilySearch site. Â The programmer changed the way the country is returned when you use the Geo Location Database. Â We need to comply with their standards for not only the LDS users but anyone who wishes to contribute to that database. You can always change it back by going to the Master Location List and clicking on Options Expand/Contract Location Parts. Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree Yes, I could do either or both of those things. The point is I should not be forced to do either of them to maintain continuity within MY database. It should be an OPTIONAL choice, not a forced choice. I have no intention of submitting my data to newFamilySearch so I should not be forced to use their standard. -- Gene Young Researching Young, Harer, Cox Sallada With Legacy Family Tree http://myyoungs.atspace.com/index.htm Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Location defaults changed
Has Legacy Family Tree been sold to LDS? I didn't buy Legacy to be compliant with LDS Family Search standards. Don't change my database. Just give me the option and I will decide how I want my data. On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 11:26 AM, Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote: It was changed to United States because that's the standard for submitting data to the newFamilySearch site. The programmer changed the way the country is returned when you use the Geo Location Database. We need to comply with their standards for not only the LDS users but anyone who wishes to contribute to that database. You can always change it back by going to the Master Location List and clicking on Options Expand/Contract Location Parts. Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 6:45 AM, Gene Young n2...@cfl.rr.com wrote: Has anyone else noticed that once again Millenia has decided that they are smarter than the end users and changed the default behavior of location entries? I used to enter a new location for the USA and the location had USA in it. Millenia must have decided that I was too stupid to really know what I want and changed it to United States. No warning, no way to change it back to the correct way (the correct way being what I want, not what Millenia thinks I should want.) ??? Why do they continuously change my database with out my permission. If they are going to change something they should give fair warning and a means to change the default back to what the USER prefers, not what Millenia decides the user should use. And if there is a means to change the default it should be so noted in the help file. I am starting to see why there have been so many posts from unhappy users of late. -- Gene Young Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Location defaults changed
On 2012/03/12 19:49, Larry McCumber wrote: Has Legacy Family Tree been sold to LDS? I didn't buy Legacy to be compliant with LDS Family Search standards. Don't change my database. Just give me the option and I will decide how I want my data. Quit moaning! It won't do any good! 5 minutes to run through the Master Locations List and change them all (and all usages) to what you want. -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Location defaults changed
When selecting Family Search icon, How about having an option pop-up- o Use Family Search program (US Country Name will change to 'United States' to be compatible with Family Search) [This will make the change and start the Family Search program] o Do not change my Country Name setting (Won't be able to use Family Search program) [This will not make any changes - null response - and stay in Legacy program] Larry On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 10:49 AM, Larry McCumber lemccum...@gmail.comwrote: Has Legacy Family Tree been sold to LDS? I didn't buy Legacy to be compliant with LDS Family Search standards. Don't change my database. Just give me the option and I will decide how I want my data. On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 11:26 AM, Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote: It was changed to United States because that's the standard for submitting data to the newFamilySearch site. The programmer changed the way the country is returned when you use the Geo Location Database. We need to comply with their standards for not only the LDS users but anyone who wishes to contribute to that database. You can always change it back by going to the Master Location List and clicking on Options Expand/Contract Location Parts. Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 6:45 AM, Gene Young n2...@cfl.rr.com wrote: Has anyone else noticed that once again Millenia has decided that they are smarter than the end users and changed the default behavior of location entries? I used to enter a new location for the USA and the location had USA in it. Millenia must have decided that I was too stupid to really know what I want and changed it to United States. No warning, no way to change it back to the correct way (the correct way being what I want, not what Millenia thinks I should want.) ??? Why do they continuously change my database with out my permission. If they are going to change something they should give fair warning and a means to change the default back to what the USER prefers, not what Millenia decides the user should use. And if there is a means to change the default it should be so noted in the help file. I am starting to see why there have been so many posts from unhappy users of late. -- Gene Young Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Location defaults changed
That was my thought initially, but after a follow-up from the OPer, it seems that when entering new locations (and I guess when geolocating), Legacy now returns United States ALWAYS. So, if you are one who prefers USA, you must manually change it every time. Not friendly at all. On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 1:13 PM, Mike Fry mike...@iafrica.com wrote: Quit moaning! It won't do any good! 5 minutes to run through the Master Locations List and change them all (and all usages) to what you want. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Location defaults changed
On 2012-03-12 12:49, Larry McCumber wrote: Has Legacy Family Tree been sold to LDS? I didn't buy Legacy to be compliant with LDS Family Search standards. Don't change my database. Just give me the option and I will decide how I want my data. I couldn't agree more! There are many organizations in the genealogy field, each with their own standards and preferences. No user should be forced to use the standards of a single organization just because it makes a single program feature more convenient. And changing data that a user has entered has always been considered a dirty trick at best. I don't think I'll ever get around to installing the Legacy 7 program that I purchased. It keeps getting worse than Legacy 6. Bob Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Location defaults changed
I will third that opinion. I reverted back to the nice stable version 7.5.0.142 and will stay there for the foreseeable future - it does everything I need it to do. After the unwelcome overwriting of my web pages setup user files caused by installation of the next updated version - and enough other subsequent problems I've been reading about here latelyCannot overstate the importance of backing up everything before updating. Eric - Original Message - From: Bob byoabm8a4h...@wowway.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 2:38 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Location defaults changed On 2012-03-12 12:49, Larry McCumber wrote: Has Legacy Family Tree been sold to LDS? I didn't buy Legacy to be compliant with LDS Family Search standards. Don't change my database. Just give me the option and I will decide how I want my data. I couldn't agree more! There are many organizations in the genealogy field, each with their own standards and preferences. No user should be forced to use the standards of a single organization just because it makes a single program feature more convenient. And changing data that a user has entered has always been considered a dirty trick at best. I don't think I'll ever get around to installing the Legacy 7 program that I purchased. It keeps getting worse than Legacy 6. Bob Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Location defaults changed
I am a bit confused! I have consistently used USA and it remains USA after updating to 166. I do have the Do not change what I type checked in the OptionsCustomizeData Entry window. Maybe that would solve this problem of it changing to United States. Bobby -Original Message- From: Bob [mailto:byoabm8a4h...@wowway.com] Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 2:39 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Location defaults changed On 2012-03-12 12:49, Larry McCumber wrote: Has Legacy Family Tree been sold to LDS? I didn't buy Legacy to be compliant with LDS Family Search standards. Don't change my database. Just give me the option and I will decide how I want my data. I couldn't agree more! There are many organizations in the genealogy field, each with their own standards and preferences. No user should be forced to use the standards of a single organization just because it makes a single program feature more convenient. And changing data that a user has entered has always been considered a dirty trick at best. I don't think I'll ever get around to installing the Legacy 7 program that I purchased. It keeps getting worse than Legacy 6. Bob Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Location defaults changed
I understand well the argument that Legacy should have informed the users so they could make the choice between USA and United States. I actually intend on changing our locations to comply with the United States standard since it was pointed out to me by Sherry there is a need to do so for the public records. But I don't understand why so many on the list have apparently opted to just be stingy and not share their work with others. True, you should be given credit for the work you've done, but why not be willing to share with your extended family? I don't get it... Jerry - MerriamFamilyTree.org On 3/12/2012 2:24 PM, James Cook wrote: That was my thought initially, but after a follow-up from the OPer, it seems that when entering new locations (and I guess when geolocating), Legacy now returns United States ALWAYS. So, if you are one who prefers USA, you must manually change it every time. Not friendly at all. On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 1:13 PM, Mike Frymike...@iafrica.com wrote: Quit moaning! It won't do any good! 5 minutes to run through the Master Locations List and change them all (and all usages) to what you want. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Location defaults changed
It has nothing to do with USA vs United States. It has everything to do with Legacy changing MY data. Problem is I have to much data to switch to another genealogy program. GEDCOMs do not work and data is always lost. I do my research for my family and have no desire for anyone else to see or use. Color me stingy. Don't care. On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 4:25 PM, Jerry jerrysemailgro...@gmail.com wrote: I understand well the argument that Legacy should have informed the users so they could make the choice between USA and United States. I actually intend on changing our locations to comply with the United States standard since it was pointed out to me by Sherry there is a need to do so for the public records. But I don't understand why so many on the list have apparently opted to just be stingy and not share their work with others. True, you should be given credit for the work you've done, but why not be willing to share with your extended family? I don't get it... Jerry - MerriamFamilyTree.org On 3/12/2012 2:24 PM, James Cook wrote: That was my thought initially, but after a follow-up from the OPer, it seems that when entering new locations (and I guess when geolocating), Legacy now returns United States ALWAYS. So, if you are one who prefers USA, you must manually change it every time. Not friendly at all. On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 1:13 PM, Mike Frymike...@iafrica.com wrote: Quit moaning! It won't do any good! 5 minutes to run through the Master Locations List and change them all (and all usages) to what you want. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Location defaults changed
On 2012-03-12 15:25, Jerry wrote: I understand well the argument that Legacy should have informed the users so they could make the choice between USA and United States. Actually the users made their choice when they entered their data. Legacy should have respected it. On 2012-03-12 15:25, Jerry wrote: But I don't understand why so many on the list have apparently opted to just be stingy and not share their work with others. ... but why not be willing to share with your extended family I think almost everyone is willing to share with family, since much of their data came from those same family members. It's entirely different to be sharing with the entire internet, which many are reluctant to do for various very good reasons. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Location defaults changed
Amen, sister. Very well said. I am not LDS either but wouldn't have 25% of the info I now have if not for their genealogical endeavors. Larry On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 1:55 PM, Michele Lewis ancestor...@gmail.comwrote: I have been watching this conversation in bewilderment. I have put USA and I have put United States. Not once has Legacy changed what I have entered (except when I used the expand/contract feature). I now have all my locations with United States to conform to the LDS standard. Just for the records, I am not LDS but I am very grateful to the LDS church for everything they have done to preserve records through microfilming. They are the experts when it comes to genealogy research so I do respect their opinion on what the standard should be. ** ** michele ** ** *From:* Larry McCumber [mailto:lemccum...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Monday, March 12, 2012 4:38 PM *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Location defaults changed ** ** It has nothing to do with USA vs United States. It has everything to do with Legacy changing MY data. Problem is I have to much data to switch to another genealogy program. GEDCOMs do not work and data is always lost. I do my research for my family and have no desire for anyone else to see or use. Color me stingy. Don't care. On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 4:25 PM, Jerry jerrysemailgro...@gmail.com wrote: I understand well the argument that Legacy should have informed the users so they could make the choice between USA and United States. I actually intend on changing our locations to comply with the United States standard since it was pointed out to me by Sherry there is a need to do so for the public records. But I don't understand why so many on the list have apparently opted to just be stingy and not share their work with others. True, you should be given credit for the work you've done, but why not be willing to share with your extended family? I don't get it... Jerry - MerriamFamilyTree.org On 3/12/2012 2:24 PM, James Cook wrote: That was my thought initially, but after a follow-up from the OPer, it seems that when entering new locations (and I guess when geolocating), Legacy now returns United States ALWAYS. So, if you are one who prefers USA, you must manually change it every time. Not friendly at all. On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 1:13 PM, Mike Frymike...@iafrica.com wrote: Quit moaning! It won't do any good! 5 minutes to run through the Master Locations List and change them all (and all usages) to what you want. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Location defaults changed
The number one priority of any genealogy software should be to preserve the data that the users have input, representing perhaps years of labor. If that data needs to be changed for internal or external purposes, ideally the software should inform the users before the fact, and then give the users a choice based on why the changes would be necessary (to perform certain specified functions). Perhaps more ideally, if the user then does opt to have the data changed, the next step might be to offer a backup of the effected data in the existing format, before proceeding with changes. My five cents' worth... - Original Message - From: Bob byoabm8a4h...@wowway.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 4:57 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Location defaults changed On 2012-03-12 15:25, Jerry wrote: I understand well the argument that Legacy should have informed the users so they could make the choice between USA and United States. Actually the users made their choice when they entered their data. Legacy should have respected it. On 2012-03-12 15:25, Jerry wrote: But I don't understand why so many on the list have apparently opted to just be stingy and not share their work with others. ... but why not be willing to share with your extended family I think almost everyone is willing to share with family, since much of their data came from those same family members. It's entirely different to be sharing with the entire internet, which many are reluctant to do for various very good reasons. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Location defaults changed
Being grateful to the LDS for their records is one thing. For Legacy to actually change a user's record without their consent is quite another. BTW, I actually do use the full United States in my records - that is a choice I made. If Legacy next decides it should be United States of America (to distinguish from the United States of Mexico, which is the correct name for our friends to the south) I would be as upset as other on this forum are at the present situation. Marianne-Original Message- From: Michele Lewis <ancestor...@gmail.com> Sent: Mar 12, 2012 3:55 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Location defaults changed <zzz!--[if gte="" mso="" 9]=""> <zzz![endif]--><zzz!--[if gte="" mso="" 9]=""> <zzz![endif]-->I have been watching this conversation in bewilderment. I have put USA and I have put United States. Not once has Legacy changed what I have entered (except when I used the expand/contract feature). I now have all my locations with United States to conform to the LDS standard. Just for the records, I am not LDS but I am very grateful to the LDS church for everything they have done to preserve records through microfilming. They are the experts when it comes to genealogy research so I do respect their opinion on what the standard should be. micheleFrom: Larry McCumber [mailto:lemccum...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 4:38 PMTo: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.comSubject: Re: [LegacyUG] Location defaults changedIt has nothing to do with USA vs United States. It has everything to do with Legacy changing MY data. Problem is I have to much data to switch to another genealogy program. GEDCOMs do not work and data is always lost. I do my research for my family and have no desire for anyone else to see or use. Color me stingy. Don't care.On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 4:25 PM, Jerry jerrysemailgro...@gmail.com wrote:I understand well the argument that Legacy should have informed theusers so they could make the choice between USA and United States. Iactually intend on changing our locations to comply with the UnitedStates standard since it was pointed out to me by Sherry there is a needto do so for the public records.But I don't understand why so many on the list have apparently opted tojust be stingy and not share their work with others. True, you shouldbe given credit for the work you've done, but why not be willing toshare with your extended family? I don't get it...Jerry - MerriamFamilyTree.orgOn 3/12/2012 2:24 PM, James Cook wrote: That was my thought initially, but after a follow-up from the OPer, it seems that when entering new locations (and I guess when geolocating), Legacy now returns "United States" ALWAYS. So, if you are one who prefers USA, you must manually change it every time. Not friendly at all. On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 1:13 PM, Mike Frymike...@iafrica.com wrote: Quit moaning! It won't do any good! 5 minutes to run through the Master Locations List and change them all (and all usages) to what you want.Legacy User Group guidelines:http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.aspArchived messages after Nov. 21 2009:http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009:http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.aspFollow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com).To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.aspLegacy User Group guidelines:http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.aspArchived messages after Nov. 21 2009:http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009:http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.aspFollow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com).To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines:http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.aspArchived messages after Nov. 21 2009:http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009:http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.aspFollow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com).To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines:http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.aspArchived messages after Nov. 21 2009:http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21
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At 04:25 PM 3/12/2012, you wrote: But I don't understand why so many on the list have apparently opted to just be stingy and not share their work with others. True, you should be given credit for the work you've done, but why not be willing to share with your extended family? I don't get it... Jerry - MerriamFamilyTree.org I will tell you why I will not share my data on the internet. A couple of years ago i posted my family tree on a website and several people got information from it and even wrote me wanting info that was not on the webpage. BUT, when I would e-mail them for information, they would ignore my e-mail. So I removed my data from the internet and do not intend to put it back on. I am going on 81 years old and when I get to the place where I cannot work on my data, then I am going to delete it all. not going to leave a trace. None of my grandchildren are interested in taking it over. Lloyd Get Free Email with Video Mail Video Chat! http://www.juno.com/freeemail?refcd=JUTAGOUT1FREM0210 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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I don't post my stuff on the internet either. I don't like people copying my work and publishing it as their own and copying the material without bothering to cite it properly. Lloyd, send me your stuff when the time comes. I would be interested in it and I promise to take care of it. My children and husband couldn't care less about my research so I understand perfectly. michele -Original Message- From: Lloyd [mailto:lhite3...@juno.com] Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 6:05 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Location defaults changed At 04:25 PM 3/12/2012, you wrote: But I don't understand why so many on the list have apparently opted to just be stingy and not share their work with others. True, you should be given credit for the work you've done, but why not be willing to share with your extended family? I don't get it... Jerry - MerriamFamilyTree.org I will tell you why I will not share my data on the internet. A couple of years ago i posted my family tree on a website and several people got information from it and even wrote me wanting info that was not on the webpage. BUT, when I would e-mail them for information, they would ignore my e-mail. So I removed my data from the internet and do not intend to put it back on. I am going on 81 years old and when I get to the place where I cannot work on my data, then I am going to delete it all. not going to leave a trace. None of my grandchildren are interested in taking it over. Lloyd Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Location defaults changed
Lloyd makes me want to cry. I didn't start my genealogy until I retired. Lloyd, tuck that work away someplace. Trust me, someone will come along, a randchild maybe, who will bless you for all your hard work. Sally In a message dated 3/12/2012 5:19:34 PM Eastern Standard Time, ancestor...@gmail.com writes: I don't post my stuff on the internet either. I don't like people copying my work and publishing it as their own and copying the material without bothering to cite it properly. Lloyd, send me your stuff when the time comes. I would be interested in it and I promise to take care of it. My children and husband couldn't care less about my research so I understand perfectly. michele --- I am going on 81 years old and when I get to the place where I cannot work on my data, then I am going to delete it all. not going to leave a trace. None of my grandchildren are interested in taking it over. Lloyd Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Location defaults changed
I think it is Estat Unis de Mexico (bad spelling?)
--- On Mon, 3/12/12, mbstx msz...@mindspring.com wrote:
From: mbstx msz...@mindspring.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Location defaults changed
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Date: Monday, March 12, 2012, 3:02 PM
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Being grateful to the LDS for their records is one thing. For Legacy to
actually change a user's record without their consent is quite another. BTW, I
actually do use the full United States in my records - that is a choice I
made. If Legacy next decides it should be United States of America (to
distinguish from the United States of Mexico, which is the correct name for our
friends to the south) I would be as upset as other on this forum are at the
present situation. Marianne
-Original Message-
From: Michele Lewis
Sent: Mar 12, 2012 3:55 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Location defaults changed
I have been watching this conversation in bewilderment. I have put USA and I
have put United States. Not once has Legacy changed what I have entered
(except when I used the expand/contract feature). I now have all my locations
with United States to conform to the LDS standard. Just for the records, I am
not LDS but I am very grateful to the LDS church for everything they have done
to preserve records through microfilming. They are the experts when it comes
to genealogy research so I do respect their opinion on what the standard should
be.
michele
From: Larry McCumber [mailto:lemccum...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 4:38 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Location defaults changed
It has nothing to do with USA vs United States. It has everything to do with
Legacy changing MY data. Problem is I have to much data to switch to another
genealogy program. GEDCOMs do not work and data is always lost.
I do my research for my family and have no desire for anyone else to see or
use. Color me stingy. Don't care.
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 4:25 PM, Jerry jerrysemailgro...@gmail.com wrote:
I understand well the argument that Legacy should have informed the
users so they could make the choice between USA and United States. I
actually intend on changing our locations to comply with the United
States standard since it was pointed out to me by Sherry there is a need
to do so for the public records.
But I don't understand why so many on the list have apparently opted to
just be stingy and not share their work with others. True, you should
be given credit for the work you've done, but why not be willing to
share with your extended family? I don't get it...
Jerry - MerriamFamilyTree.org
On 3/12/2012 2:24 PM, James Cook wrote:
That was my thought initially, but after a follow-up from the OPer, it
seems that when entering new locations (and I guess when geolocating),
Legacy now returns United States ALWAYS. So, if you are one who
prefers USA, you must manually change it every time. Not friendly at
all.
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 1:13 PM, Mike Frymike...@iafrica.com wrote:
Quit moaning! It won't do any good! 5 minutes to run through the Master
Locations List and change them all (and all usages) to what you want.
Legacy User Group guidelines:
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Re: [LegacyUG] Location defaults changed
On 2012-03-12 16:37, Eric Wiggers wrote: The number one priority of any genealogy software should be to preserve the data that the users have input, representing perhaps years of labor. If that data needs to be changed for internal or external purposes, ideally the software should inform the users before the fact, and then give the users a choice based on why the changes would be necessary (to perform certain specified functions). Perhaps more ideally, if the user then does opt to have the data changed, the next step might be to offer a backup of the effected data in the existing format, before proceeding with changes. My five cents' worth... In my case I changed from United States to USA years ago. With the long form, the sentences in reports were much longer and reading them was so tedious and repetitive that even I did not want to do it, much less family members who have no interest in genealogy. If I were going to expand USA, which I'm not, United States would be only my third choice. I would greatly prefer United States of America since it makes no logical sense to expand the U and the S but not the A. I have never used FamilySearch, but I assume that Legacy interacts with it by passing data back and forth. In that case, Legacy could do the conversion both to and from USA and United States during the passing of data between Legacy and FamilySearch rather than simply trashing the users' data file. They probably chose the latter because it was a little bit easier for them, no matter how much extra work was created for many users. Having to change United States back to USA all the time is a task that it is all too easy for forget occasionally and one that users should not be expected to do at all. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Location defaults changed
Ok, I’m back at version 142, so I haven’t seen this. Did Legacy actually change your master location list? From what others are saying, it doesn’t sound like it. It sounds like they have changed a default from USA to United States when you are adding a new location. Paul Gray From: Larry McCumber [mailto:lemccum...@gmail.com] Sent: March-12-12 2:38 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Location defaults changed It has nothing to do with USA vs United States. It has everything to do with Legacy changing MY data. Problem is I have to much data to switch to another genealogy program. GEDCOMs do not work and data is always lost. I do my research for my family and have no desire for anyone else to see or use. Color me stingy. Don't care. On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 4:25 PM, Jerry jerrysemailgro...@gmail.com wrote: I understand well the argument that Legacy should have informed the users so they could make the choice between USA and United States. I actually intend on changing our locations to comply with the United States standard since it was pointed out to me by Sherry there is a need to do so for the public records. But I don't understand why so many on the list have apparently opted to just be stingy and not share their work with others. True, you should be given credit for the work you've done, but why not be willing to share with your extended family? I don't get it... Jerry - MerriamFamilyTree.org On 3/12/2012 2:24 PM, James Cook wrote: That was my thought initially, but after a follow-up from the OPer, it seems that when entering new locations (and I guess when geolocating), Legacy now returns United States ALWAYS. So, if you are one who prefers USA, you must manually change it every time. Not friendly at all. On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 1:13 PM, Mike Frymike...@iafrica.com wrote: Quit moaning! It won't do any good! 5 minutes to run through the Master Locations List and change them all (and all usages) to what you want. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Location defaults changed
Well, if you read the Revision History for 12 Feb 2012 before you upgraded it tells you: http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/RevisionHistory7.asp Changed Items Geo Location Database - It will now return United States instead of USA when selecting a location from the USA. I usually look at the changes before I update to see if I really wish to update at this time :) Vivian On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 6:45 AM, Gene Young n2...@cfl.rr.com wrote: Has anyone else noticed that once again Millenia has decided that they are smarter than the end users and changed the default behavior of location entries? I used to enter a new location for the USA and the location had USA in it. Millenia must have decided that I was too stupid to really know what I want and changed it to United States. No warning, no way to change it back to the correct way (the correct way being what I want, not what Millenia thinks I should want.) ??? Why do they continuously change my database with out my permission. If they are going to change something they should give fair warning and a means to change the default back to what the USER prefers, not what Millenia decides the user should use. And if there is a means to change the default it should be so noted in the help file. I am starting to see why there have been so many posts from unhappy users of late. -- Gene Young Researching Young, Harer, Cox Sallada With Legacy Family Tree http://myyoungs.atspace.com/index.htm Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
