Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer for Draft Registration

[Brian Kelly]

There is a Sourcewriter template under
Military Records, United States, Other records created at the national 
level, Draft registrations, online databases and images.


That is the template I used for the WWI and WWII draft registrations I 
find at FamilySearch.org. I am sure the same could be used for other 
sites where you find those cards.


The template has options for Microfiche and Online database as well.

Brian Kelly

On 29-Jun.-20 9:46 a.m., Bonnie Hamer wrote:
How is a draft registration WWI or WWII entered in source writer?  
Military record doesn't seem to fit if they didn't serve.  So is this 
considered a court record?  Good information found here. Thank you for 
your help.




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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer for UK Baptisms

[Cathy Pinner]

Barry,

Apart from reference to "Line" that looks fine to me. But I'm no source 
purist. I could both find this online from your information and know 
where the original was.


I've never seen a Parish Register with numbered lines.
On the other hand records are numbered post 1813 for baptisms and 
burials and marriages at least from 1837. So you probably mean Page 50, 
No 398 which would be about right for earlier registers anyway where 
there were 8 baptisms a page.


Cathy


Barry Godbeer <mailto:b_goodbee...@rogers.com>
Thursday, 27 April 2017 6:50 AM
To Cathy and all who participated in this thread,

After considering your examples of recording English church records 
using Source Writer/Church Records>Church Record Books>Created at 
local level (parish, congregation, meeting etc)  I came up with the 
following.


SOURCE
Source List Name: Parish Register for Devon, England-Baptisms
Church name: Parochial Church Council, Devon Heritage Centre
Location City: Exeter
Location State: Devon
Location Country: England
Collection: Baptism Records
Format: Digital images
Website Creator: South West Heritage Trust / Findmypast
Website Title:
URL: swheritage.org.uk / fiindmypast.com
Date:

SOURCE DETAIL
Title: Baptisms in the Parish of Lower Brixham, Devon, England
Item of Interest: Baptism of Abel Godbeer at All Saints, Brixham, 
Devon. Father: Abel Godbeer (Shipwright). Mother: Susan Godbeer. 
Archive Ref: 1955A/PR/1/1. Page 50. Line 398

Date accessed: 25 Apr 2017

FOOTNOTE/ENDNOTE CITATION
Parochial Church Council, Devon Heritage Centre (Exeter, Devon, 
England), Baptism Records, "Baptisms in the Parish of Lower Brixham, 
Devon":Baptism of Abel Godbeer at All Saints, Brixham, Devon. Father: 
Abel Godbeer (Shipwright). Mother: Susan Godbeer. Archive Ref: 
1955A/PR/1/1. Page 50. Line 398. digital images. South West Heritage 
Trust / Findmypast (swheritage.org.uk / findmypast.com:  Accessed 25 
Apr 2017)
I haven't tried it yet but I'm hoping a similar approach would work 
for marriage and banns held in church records.


Any comments invited.

Barry Godbeer
Canada



On Monday, April 24, 2017 12:05 PM, Ian Thomas  
wrote:



Cathy
I can guess at why Millennium doesn’t “publish” on-disk templates for 
SourceWriter: I think their rules-based code is within some 
password-protected mdb files (disguised as .dbm). or at least that is 
the way that I would code it.
Also, whether the above is right or wrong – if the formatting of 
sources is so divergent between times in history and jurisdictions (as 
for example, the dogs’-breakfast of even the online BDM databases in 
the 7 or so States of Australia, over the less than 200 years of 
record-keeping) it would be a big task for them to research and 
implement the rules for sources for additional to those in the USA.

(just my conjectures)
Thanks for the tip. I don’t want to accumulate sources stored in ways 
that make retrieval or maintenance a big chore, or inflexible.

Ian Thomas
Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia
*From:*LegacyUserGroup 
[mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] *On Behalf Of *Cathy 
Pinner

*Sent:* Monday, 24 April 2017 7:03 PM
*To:* Legacy User Group 
*Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer for UK Baptisms
Unless Basic sources were rudimentary or really badly formatted and 
the Basic Master Source can't be edited into respectable format, then 
don't even consider changing Basic Sources to SourceWriter sources.
It's a slow tedious job which is only worth doing if the source isn't 
sufficiently informative and needs to be redone anyway - like some of 
my early sources from the 1990s.


Making your own guides to how you enter Basic Sources is a great idea.

Cathy

Ian Thomas wrote:

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Ian Thomas <mailto:il.tho...@outlook.com>
Monday, 24 April 2017 6:07 PM

Cathy

I can guess at why Millennium doesn’t “publish” on-disk templates for 
SourceWriter: I think their rules-based code is within some 
password-protected mdb files (disguised as .dbm). or at least that is 
the way that I would code it.


Also, whether the above is right or wrong – if the formatting of 
sources is so divergent between times in history and jurisdictions (as 
for example, the dogs’-breakfast of even the online BDM databases in 
the 7 or so States of Australia, over the less than 200 years of 
record-keeping) it would be a big task for them to research and 
implement the rules for sources for additional to those in the USA.


(just my conjectures)

Thanks for the tip. I don’t want to accumulate sources stored in ways 
that make retrieval or maintenance a big chore, or inflexible.


Ian Thomas

Albert

Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer for UK Baptisms

[Barry Godbeer]

To Cathy and all who participated in this thread,
After considering your examples of recording English church records using 
Source Writer/Church Records>Church Record Books>Created at local level 
(parish, congregation, meeting etc)  I came up with the following.
SOURCESource List Name: Parish Register for Devon, England-BaptismsChurch name: 
Parochial Church Council, Devon Heritage CentreLocation City: ExeterLocation 
State: DevonLocation Country: EnglandCollection: Baptism RecordsFormat: Digital 
imagesWebsite Creator: South West Heritage Trust / FindmypastWebsite Title:URL: 
swheritage.org.uk / fiindmypast.comDate:
SOURCE DETAILTitle: Baptisms in the Parish of Lower Brixham, Devon, EnglandItem 
of Interest: Baptism of Abel Godbeer at All Saints, Brixham, Devon. Father: 
Abel Godbeer (Shipwright). Mother: Susan Godbeer. Archive Ref: 1955A/PR/1/1. 
Page 50. Line 398Date accessed: 25 Apr 2017
FOOTNOTE/ENDNOTE CITATIONParochial Church Council, Devon Heritage Centre 
(Exeter, Devon, England), Baptism Records, "Baptisms in the Parish of Lower 
Brixham, Devon":Baptism of Abel Godbeer at All Saints, Brixham, Devon. Father: 
Abel Godbeer (Shipwright). Mother: Susan Godbeer. Archive Ref: 1955A/PR/1/1. 
Page 50. Line 398. digital images. South West Heritage Trust / Findmypast 
(swheritage.org.uk / findmypast.com:  Accessed 25 Apr 2017) I haven't tried it 
yet but I'm hoping a similar approach would work for marriage and banns held in 
church records.

Any comments invited.
Barry GodbeerCanada
 

On Monday, April 24, 2017 12:05 PM, Ian Thomas  
wrote:
 

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div.yiv0027982734WordSection1 {}#yiv0027982734 Cathy I can guess at why 
Millennium doesn’t “publish” on-disk templates for SourceWriter: I think their 
rules-based code is within some password-protected mdb files (disguised as 
.dbm). or at least that is the way that I would code it.   Also, whether the 
above is right or wrong – if the formatting of sources is so divergent between 
times in history and jurisdictions (as for example, the dogs’-breakfast of even 
the online BDM databases in the 7 or so States of Australia, over the less than 
200 years of record-keeping) it would be a big task for them to research and 
implement the rules for sources for additional to those in the USA.      (just 
my conjectures)    Thanks for the tip. I don’t want to accumulate sources 
stored in ways that make retrieval or maintenance a big chore, or inflexible.   
 Ian Thomas Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia    From: LegacyUserGroup 
[mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com]On Behalf Of Cathy Pinner
Sent: Monday, 24 April 2017 7:03 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer for UK Baptisms    Unless Basic sources 
were rudimentary or really badly formatted and the Basic Master Source can't be 
edited into respectable format, then don't even consider changing Basic Sources 
to SourceWriter sources.
It's a slow tedious job which is only worth doing if the source isn't 
sufficiently informative and needs to be redone anyway - like some of my early 
sources from the 1990s.

Making your own guides to how you enter Basic Sources is a great idea.

Cathy

Ian Thomas wrote:

 

Carolyn, that sounds interesting. My ancestors and connections to the 
side are AU, NZ, England Wales Scotland Ireland. There are very 
peripheral USA, Canada, South Africa.

Currently, my use of sources is primitive. I’m not using SourceWriter 
(though I thought I should be).

It raises the question to me how difficult it will be to convert my 
‘basic’ source entries to SourceWriter. I will check out Help.

Ian Thomas

Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia

*From:*LegacyUserGroup 
[mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] *On Behalf Of *carogene
*Sent:* Monday, 24 April 2017 3:35 PM
*To:* Legacy User Group 
*Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer for UK Baptisms

But you can create your own source templates using the basic system.

I have a set that works well for New Zealand, Australian, UK records.

Developed as the source writer system is way to US centric (long 
winded) for my records.

Carolyn

On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 1:28 PM, 

Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer for UK Baptisms

[Ian Thomas]

Cathy
I can guess at why Millennium doesn’t “publish” on-disk templates for 
SourceWriter: I think their rules-based code is within some password-protected 
mdb files (disguised as .dbm). or at least that is the way that I would code it.
Also, whether the above is right or wrong – if the formatting of sources is so 
divergent between times in history and jurisdictions (as for example, the 
dogs’-breakfast of even the online BDM databases in the 7 or so States of 
Australia, over the less than 200 years of record-keeping) it would be a big 
task for them to research and implement the rules for sources for additional to 
those in the USA.

(just my conjectures)

Thanks for the tip. I don’t want to accumulate sources stored in ways that make 
retrieval or maintenance a big chore, or inflexible.

Ian Thomas
Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Cathy Pinner
Sent: Monday, 24 April 2017 7:03 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer for UK Baptisms

Unless Basic sources were rudimentary or really badly formatted and the Basic 
Master Source can't be edited into respectable format, then don't even consider 
changing Basic Sources to SourceWriter sources.
It's a slow tedious job which is only worth doing if the source isn't 
sufficiently informative and needs to be redone anyway - like some of my early 
sources from the 1990s.

Making your own guides to how you enter Basic Sources is a great idea.

Cathy

Ian Thomas wrote:


Carolyn, that sounds interesting. My ancestors and connections to the
side are AU, NZ, England Wales Scotland Ireland. There are very
peripheral USA, Canada, South Africa.

Currently, my use of sources is primitive. I’m not using SourceWriter
(though I thought I should be).

It raises the question to me how difficult it will be to convert my
‘basic’ source entries to SourceWriter. I will check out Help.

Ian Thomas

Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia

*From:*LegacyUserGroup
[mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] *On Behalf Of *carogene
*Sent:* Monday, 24 April 2017 3:35 PM
*To:* Legacy User Group 
mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>>
*Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer for UK Baptisms

But you can create your own source templates using the basic system.

I have a set that works well for New Zealand, Australian, UK records.

Developed as the source writer system is way to US centric (long
winded) for my records.

Carolyn

On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 1:28 PM, Cathy Pinner mailto:genea...@gmail.com<mailto:genea...@gmail.com%20%0b%3cmailto:genea...@gmail.com>>>
 wrote:

Ian,
It's not possible to make your own SourceWriter templates. This
has bee n asked for, but for some reason rejected.

Another tip for UK records. Anything at the The National Archives
can be sourced using a Census template that has the relevant
fields for the Department code and series number in the Master
Source and a field for the piece number in the Source Detail.
I add folio and page to the piece box as well to follow TNA
citation style. In this detail Elizabeth Shown Mills seems to
break her principles of keeping a reference together. I haven't
seen the latest editions of her work to see if she's amended her
English Census models.

Cathy

Ian Thomas <mailto:il.tho...@outlook.com
<mailto:il.tho...@outlook.com <mailto:il.tho...@outlook.com%0b   
%20%3cmailto:il.tho...@outlook.com%20> >>
Monday, 24 April 2017 7:07 AM

Wouldn't it be great if Millenia provided add on packages that
covered the different methods of recording in various
countries at different times, but that would be a daunting
task I'm sure.

Or – does anyone know whether Legacy’s SourceWriter Templates
created by others for their specific purpose are
“transferrable”? That is, are they a separate named file on
the creator’s disk, which could be uploaded to a site where
others might download and then install into their Legacy
system on their computer?

If that is a possibility, in effect, a Legacy community
resource could be created.

I’m not sure whether the format of SourceWriter has changed,
from v8 (or before?) to v9 of Legacy.

Ian Thomas

Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia

Barry Godbeer <mailto:b_goodbee...@rogers.com
<mailto:b_goodbee...@rogers.com<mailto:b_goodbee...@rogers.com%0b   
%20%3cmailto:b_goodbee...@rogers.com>>>
Monday, 24 April 2017 2:12 AM
Cathy,

 &nbs p;  Thank you for your quick and helpful reply.

You seem to have found a way to record non US sources in
Legacy that would work for me. One of my concerns was possibly
having a different M

Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer for UK Baptisms

[Cathy Pinner]

Unless Basic sources were rudimentary or really badly formatted and the 
Basic Master Source can't be edited into respectable format, then don't 
even consider changing Basic Sources to SourceWriter sources.
It's a slow tedious job which is only worth doing if the source isn't 
sufficiently informative and needs to be redone anyway - like some of my 
early sources from the 1990s.


Making your own guides to how you enter Basic Sources is a great idea.

Cathy

Ian Thomas wrote:


Carolyn, that sounds interesting. My ancestors and connections to the
side are AU, NZ, England Wales Scotland Ireland. There are very
peripheral USA, Canada, South Africa.

Currently, my use of sources is primitive. I’m not using SourceWriter
(though I thought I should be).

It raises the question to me how difficult it will be to convert my
‘basic’ source entries to SourceWriter. I will check out Help.

Ian Thomas

Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia

*From:*LegacyUserGroup
[mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] *On Behalf Of *carogene
*Sent:* Monday, 24 April 2017 3:35 PM
*To:* Legacy User Group 
*Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer for UK Baptisms

But you can create your own source templates using the basic system.

I have a set that works well for New Zealand, Australian, UK records.

Developed as the source writer system is way to US centric (long
winded) for my records.

Carolyn

On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 1:28 PM, Cathy Pinner mailto:genea...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Ian,
It's not possible to make your own SourceWriter templates. This
has been asked for, but for some reason rejected.

Another tip for UK records. Anything at the The National Archives
can be sourced using a Census template that has the relevant
fields for the Department code and series number in the Master
Source and a field for the piece number in the Source Detail.
I add folio and page to the piece box as well to follow TNA
citation style. In this detail Elizabeth Shown Mills seems to
break her principles of keeping a reference together. I haven't
seen the latest editions of her work to see if she's amended her
English Census models.

Cathy

Ian Thomas <mailto:il.tho...@outlook.com
<mailto:il.tho...@outlook.com>>
Monday, 24 April 2017 7:07 AM

Wouldn't it be great if Millenia provided add on packages that
covered the different methods of recording in various
countries at different times, but that would be a daunting
task I'm sure.

Or – does anyone know whether Legacy’s SourceWriter Templates
created by others for their specific purpose are
“transferrable”? That is, are they a separate named file on
the creator’s disk, which could be uploaded to a site where
others might download and then install into their Legacy
system on their computer?

If that is a possibility, in effect, a Legacy community
resource could be created.

I’m not sure whether the format of SourceWriter has changed,
from v8 (or before?) to v9 of Legacy.

Ian Thomas

Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia

Barry Godbeer <mailto:b_goodbee...@rogers.com
<mailto:b_goodbee...@rogers.com>>
Monday, 24 April 2017 2:12 AM
Cathy,

Thank you for your quick and helpful reply.

You seem to have found a way to record non US sources in
Legacy that would work for me. One of my concerns was possibly
having a different Master Source for every church. If I
understand your two examples correctly you have some Master
Sources for individual churches and some for a central
depository depending on where you sourced the information.

Rather than have a mix I think I will start off my baptism
Master Sources using a central depository (SWHT/Parochial
Church Council/Findmypast), understanding that nothing works
for ever. I have overlooked marriage banns in the past because
I didn't know what to do with them. Now you have given me
direction.

Wouldn't it be great if Millenia provided add on packages that
covered the different methods of recording in various
countries at different times, but that would be a daunting
task I'm sure.

Thanks again,

Barry Godbeer




On Saturday, April 22, 2017 9:56 PM, Cathy Pinner
mailto:genea...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Barry,

Church Records include Baptisms, Burials and Marriages. The
records are recorded in Church Registers or "record books" in
Legacy speak.
So you're looking for Church records > Church record books >
created at local level (parish, congregation, meeting, etc) >
and then the format you've used. I've chosen to use the
Microfilm/fiche rather than online images as I've seem some at
the Archives on microfilm in a rare visit to England and some
online.
I use the Film ID in the Master Source to acknowledge both
sources: eg: Images courtesy of South West Heritage Trust &
Parochial Church Council & FindMyPast
I actually make a Master Source for each church but I could
have instead chosen to make a Master Source for each Archive.
In m

Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer for UK Baptisms

[Ian Thomas]

Carolyn, that sounds interesting. My ancestors and connections to the side are 
AU, NZ, England Wales Scotland Ireland. There are very peripheral USA, Canada, 
South Africa.
Currently, my use of sources is primitive. I’m not using SourceWriter (though I 
thought I should be).

It raises the question to me how difficult it will be to convert my ‘basic’ 
source entries to SourceWriter. I will check out Help.


Ian Thomas
Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of carogene
Sent: Monday, 24 April 2017 3:35 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer for UK Baptisms

But you can create your own source templates using the basic system.
I have a set that works well for New Zealand, Australian, UK records.
Developed as the source writer system is way to US centric (long winded)  for 
my records.

Carolyn

On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 1:28 PM, Cathy Pinner 
mailto:genea...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Ian,
It's not possible to make your own SourceWriter templates. This has been asked 
for, but for some reason rejected.

Another tip for UK records. Anything at the The National Archives can be 
sourced using a Census template that has the relevant fields for the Department 
code and series number in the Master Source and a field for the piece number in 
the Source Detail.
I add folio and page to the piece box as well to follow TNA citation style. In 
this detail Elizabeth Shown Mills seems to break her principles of keeping a 
reference together. I haven't seen the latest editions of her work to see if 
she's amended her English Census models.

Cathy
Ian Thomas <mailto:il.tho...@outlook.com<mailto:il.tho...@outlook.com>>
Monday, 24 April 2017 7:07 AM

Wouldn't it be great if Millenia provided add on packages that covered the 
different methods of recording in various countries at different times, but 
that would be a daunting task I'm sure.

Or – does anyone know whether Legacy’s SourceWriter Templates created by others 
for their specific purpose are “transferrable”? That is, are they a separate 
named file on the creator’s disk, which could be uploaded to a site where 
others might download and then install into their Legacy system on their 
computer?

If that is a possibility, in effect, a Legacy community resource could be 
created.

I’m not sure whether the format of SourceWriter has changed, from v8 (or 
before?) to v9 of Legacy.

Ian Thomas

Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia

Barry Godbeer <mailto:b_goodbee...@rogers.com<mailto:b_goodbee...@rogers.com>>
Monday, 24 April 2017 2:12 AM
Cathy,

Thank you for your quick and helpful reply.

You seem to have found a way to record non US sources in Legacy that would work 
for me. One of my concerns was possibly having a different Master Source for 
every church. If I understand your two examples correctly you have some Master 
Sources for individual churches and some for a central depository depending on 
where you sourced the information.

Rather than have a mix I think I will start off my baptism Master Sources using 
a central depository (SWHT/Parochial Church Council/Findmypast), understanding 
that nothing works for ever. I have overlooked marriage banns in the past 
because I didn't know what to do with them. Now you have given me direction.

Wouldn't it be great if Millenia provided add on packages that covered the 
different methods of recording in various countries at different times, but 
that would be a daunting task I'm sure.

Thanks again,

Barry Godbeer




On Saturday, April 22, 2017 9:56 PM, Cathy Pinner 
mailto:genea...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Barry,

Church Records include Baptisms, Burials and Marriages. The records are 
recorded in Church Registers or "record books" in Legacy speak.
So you're looking for Church records > Church record books > created at local 
level (parish, congregation, meeting, etc) > and then the format you've used. 
I've chosen to use the Microfilm/fiche rather than online images as I've seem 
some at the Archives on microfilm in a rare visit to England and some online.
I use the Film ID in the Master Source to acknowledge both sources: eg: Images 
courtesy of South West Heritage Trust & Parochial Church Council & FindMyPast
I actually make a Master Source for each church but I could have instead chosen 
to make a Master Source for each Archive.
In my case: Dorset History Centre, the London Metropolitan Archives, etc.
I learn where the registers actually are arc hived.

So one Master Source reads: St Margaret (Topsham, Devon, England); Images 
courtesy of South West Heritage Trust and Parochial Church Council & 
FindMyPast, Devon Heritage Centre, Exeter.
and a source citation:
St Margaret (Topsham, Devon, England), "Marriages 1417A/PR/1/15 1837-1881," 
Page 1, No 1 1837 marriage of William Harris & Re

Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer for UK Baptisms

[carogene]

But you can create your own source templates using the basic system.
I have a set that works well for New Zealand, Australian, UK records.
Developed as the source writer system is way to US centric (long winded)
 for my records.

Carolyn

On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 1:28 PM, Cathy Pinner  wrote:

> Ian,
> It's not possible to make your own SourceWriter templates. This has been
> asked for, but for some reason rejected.
>
> Another tip for UK records. Anything at the The National Archives can be
> sourced using a Census template that has the relevant fields for the
> Department code and series number in the Master Source and a field for the
> piece number in the Source Detail.
> I add folio and page to the piece box as well to follow TNA citation
> style. In this detail Elizabeth Shown Mills seems to break her principles
> of keeping a reference together. I haven't seen the latest editions of her
> work to see if she's amended her English Census models.
>
> Cathy
>
> Ian Thomas 
>> Monday, 24 April 2017 7:07 AM
>>
>> Wouldn't it be great if Millenia provided add on packages that covered
>> the different methods of recording in various countries at different times,
>> but that would be a daunting task I'm sure.
>>
>> Or – does anyone know whether Legacy’s SourceWriter Templates created by
>> others for their specific purpose are “transferrable”? That is, are they a
>> separate named file on the creator’s disk, which could be uploaded to a
>> site where others might download and then install into their Legacy system
>> on their computer?
>>
>> If that is a possibility, in effect, a Legacy community resource could be
>> created.
>>
>> I’m not sure whether the format of SourceWriter has changed, from v8 (or
>> before?) to v9 of Legacy.
>>
>> Ian Thomas
>>
>> Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia
>>
>> Barry Godbeer 
>> Monday, 24 April 2017 2:12 AM
>> Cathy,
>>
>> Thank you for your quick and helpful reply.
>>
>> You seem to have found a way to record non US sources in Legacy that
>> would work for me. One of my concerns was possibly having a different
>> Master Source for every church. If I understand your two examples correctly
>> you have some Master Sources for individual churches and some for a central
>> depository depending on where you sourced the information.
>>
>> Rather than have a mix I think I will start off my baptism Master Sources
>> using a central depository (SWHT/Parochial Church Council/Findmypast),
>> understanding that nothing works for ever. I have overlooked marriage banns
>> in the past because I didn't know what to do with them. Now you have given
>> me direction.
>>
>> Wouldn't it be great if Millenia provided add on packages that covered
>> the different methods of recording in various countries at different times,
>> but that would be a daunting task I'm sure.
>>
>> Thanks again,
>>
>> Barry Godbeer
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, April 22, 2017 9:56 PM, Cathy Pinner 
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Barry,
>>
>> Church Records include Baptisms, Burials and Marriages. The records are
>> recorded in Church Registers or "record books" in Legacy speak.
>> So you're looking for Church records > Church record books > created at
>> local level (parish, congregation, meeting, etc) > and then the format
>> you've used. I've chosen to use the Microfilm/fiche rather than online
>> images as I've seem some at the Archives on microfilm in a rare visit to
>> England and some online.
>> I use the Film ID in the Master Source to acknowledge both sources: eg:
>> Images courtesy of South West Heritage Trust & Parochial Church Council &
>> FindMyPast
>> I actually make a Master Source for each church but I could have instead
>> chosen to make a Master Source for each Archive.
>> In my case: Dorset History Centre, the London Metropolitan Archives, etc.
>> I learn where the registers actually are arc hived.
>>
>> So one Master Source reads: St Margaret (Topsham, Devon, England); Images
>> courtesy of South West Heritage Trust and Parochial Church Council &
>> FindMyPast, Devon Heritage Centre, Exeter.
>> and a source citation:
>> St Margaret (Topsham, Devon, England), "Marriages 1417A/PR/1/15
>> 1837-1881," Page 1, No 1 1837 marriage of William Harris & Rebecca Mawditt;
>> Images courtesy of South West Heritage Trust and Parochial Church Council &
>> FindMyPast, Devon Heritage Centre, Exeter.
>>
>> This "1417A/PR/1/15" is the Archive reference for that particular
>> register. If it's not obvious on the online site, I look at the Archive
>> catalogue and find it and also record their microfilm number, if any is
>> given. At the archives you can usually only see parish registers on
>> microfilm - and probably now the online images.
>>
>> The Source Detail has a "Title" field for the name of the actual register
>> ( or church and register if you chose to have one Master Source for Devon
>> Heritage Centre)
>> Then one for Item of interest where I record the page and 

Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer for UK Baptisms

[Richard Young]

Jane, where are you in Phoenix. If you are near the east side, we have a
monthly User Group meeting in Mesa.

Richard


On Sun, Apr 23, 2017 at 6:53 PM, Jane Linkswiler  wrote:

> Kathy, I've been sitting here for two days with my mouth hanging open at
> that WONderful description you gave then on how you write your sources to
> show everything about them. And then this, too. Thank you for taking me
> down a peg from thinking I was pretty good at getting my sources at all. I
> now know what I'll be aiming for. Thank you,
>
> Jane in Phoenix (first I need to take a good look at all the source
> templates)
>
> -Original Message-
> From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
> Behalf Of Cathy Pinner
> Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2017 6:29 PM
> To: Legacy User Group 
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer for UK Baptisms
>
> Ian,
> It's not possible to make your own SourceWriter templates. This has been
> asked for, but for some reason rejected.
>
> Another tip for UK records. Anything at the The National Archives can be
> sourced using a Census template that has the relevant fields for the
> Department code and series number in the Master Source and a field for the
> piece number in the Source Detail.
> I add folio and page to the piece box as well to follow TNA citation
> style. In this detail Elizabeth Shown Mills seems to break her principles
> of keeping a reference together. I haven't seen the latest editions of her
> work to see if she's amended her English Census models.
>
> Cathy
>
> > Ian Thomas <mailto:il.tho...@outlook.com>
> > Monday, 24 April 2017 7:07 AM
> >
> > Wouldn't it be great if Millenia provided add on packages that covered
> > the different methods of recording in various countries at different
> > times, but that would be a daunting task I'm sure.
> >
> > Or – does anyone know whether Legacy’s SourceWriter Templates created
> > by others for their specific purpose are “transferrable”? That is, are
> > they a separate named file on the creator’s disk, which could be
> > uploaded to a site where others might download and then install into
> > their Legacy system on their computer?
> >
> > If that is a possibility, in effect, a Legacy community resource could
> > be created.
> >
> > I’m not sure whether the format of SourceWriter has changed, from v8
> > (or before?) to v9 of Legacy.
> >
> > Ian Thomas
> >
> > Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia
> >
> > Barry Godbeer <mailto:b_goodbee...@rogers.com>
> > Monday, 24 April 2017 2:12 AM
> > Cathy,
> >
> > Thank you for your quick and helpful reply.
> >
> > You seem to have found a way to record non US sources in Legacy that
> > would work for me. One of my concerns was possibly having a different
> > Master Source for every church. If I understand your two examples
> > correctly you have some Master Sources for individual churches and
> > some for a central depository depending on where you sourced the
> > information.
> >
> > Rather than have a mix I think I will start off my baptism Master
> > Sources using a central depository (SWHT/Parochial Church
> > Council/Findmypast), understanding that nothing works for ever. I have
> > overlooked marriage banns in the past because I didn't know what to do
> > with them. Now you have given me direction.
> >
> > Wouldn't it be great if Millenia provided add on packages that covered
> > the different methods of recording in various countries at different
> > times, but that would be a daunting task I'm sure.
> >
> > Thanks again,
> >
> > Barry Godbeer
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Saturday, April 22, 2017 9:56 PM, Cathy Pinner 
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> > Barry,
> >
> > Church Records include Baptisms, Burials and Marriages. The records
> > are recorded in Church Registers or "record books" in Legacy speak.
> > So you're looking for Church records > Church record books > created
> > at local level (parish, congregation, meeting, etc) > and then the
> > format you've used. I've chosen to use the Microfilm/fiche rather than
> > online images as I've seem some at the Archives on microfilm in a rare
> > visit to England and some online.
> > I use the Film ID in the Master Source to acknowledge both sources:
> > eg: Images courtesy of South West Heritage Trust & Parochial Church
> > Council & FindMyPast
> > I actually make a Master Source for each church but I could hav

Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer for UK Baptisms

[Jane Linkswiler]

Kathy, I've been sitting here for two days with my mouth hanging open at that 
WONderful description you gave then on how you write your sources to show 
everything about them. And then this, too. Thank you for taking me down a peg 
from thinking I was pretty good at getting my sources at all. I now know what 
I'll be aiming for. Thank you,

Jane in Phoenix (first I need to take a good look at all the source templates)

-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Cathy Pinner
Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2017 6:29 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer for UK Baptisms

Ian,
It's not possible to make your own SourceWriter templates. This has been asked 
for, but for some reason rejected.

Another tip for UK records. Anything at the The National Archives can be 
sourced using a Census template that has the relevant fields for the Department 
code and series number in the Master Source and a field for the piece number in 
the Source Detail.
I add folio and page to the piece box as well to follow TNA citation style. In 
this detail Elizabeth Shown Mills seems to break her principles of keeping a 
reference together. I haven't seen the latest editions of her work to see if 
she's amended her English Census models.

Cathy

> Ian Thomas <mailto:il.tho...@outlook.com>
> Monday, 24 April 2017 7:07 AM
>
> Wouldn't it be great if Millenia provided add on packages that covered 
> the different methods of recording in various countries at different 
> times, but that would be a daunting task I'm sure.
>
> Or – does anyone know whether Legacy’s SourceWriter Templates created 
> by others for their specific purpose are “transferrable”? That is, are 
> they a separate named file on the creator’s disk, which could be 
> uploaded to a site where others might download and then install into 
> their Legacy system on their computer?
>
> If that is a possibility, in effect, a Legacy community resource could 
> be created.
>
> I’m not sure whether the format of SourceWriter has changed, from v8 
> (or before?) to v9 of Legacy.
>
> Ian Thomas
>
> Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia
>
> Barry Godbeer <mailto:b_goodbee...@rogers.com>
> Monday, 24 April 2017 2:12 AM
> Cathy,
>
> Thank you for your quick and helpful reply.
>
> You seem to have found a way to record non US sources in Legacy that 
> would work for me. One of my concerns was possibly having a different 
> Master Source for every church. If I understand your two examples 
> correctly you have some Master Sources for individual churches and 
> some for a central depository depending on where you sourced the 
> information.
>
> Rather than have a mix I think I will start off my baptism Master 
> Sources using a central depository (SWHT/Parochial Church 
> Council/Findmypast), understanding that nothing works for ever. I have 
> overlooked marriage banns in the past because I didn't know what to do 
> with them. Now you have given me direction.
>
> Wouldn't it be great if Millenia provided add on packages that covered 
> the different methods of recording in various countries at different 
> times, but that would be a daunting task I'm sure.
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Barry Godbeer
>
>
>
>
> On Saturday, April 22, 2017 9:56 PM, Cathy Pinner  
> wrote:
>
>
> Barry,
>
> Church Records include Baptisms, Burials and Marriages. The records 
> are recorded in Church Registers or "record books" in Legacy speak.
> So you're looking for Church records > Church record books > created 
> at local level (parish, congregation, meeting, etc) > and then the 
> format you've used. I've chosen to use the Microfilm/fiche rather than 
> online images as I've seem some at the Archives on microfilm in a rare 
> visit to England and some online.
> I use the Film ID in the Master Source to acknowledge both sources: 
> eg: Images courtesy of South West Heritage Trust & Parochial Church 
> Council & FindMyPast
> I actually make a Master Source for each church but I could have 
> instead chosen to make a Master Source for each Archive.
> In my case: Dorset History Centre, the London Metropolitan Archives, etc.
> I learn where the registers actually are arc hived.
>
> So one Master Source reads: St Margaret (Topsham, Devon, England); 
> Images courtesy of South West Heritage Trust and Parochial Church 
> Council & FindMyPast, Devon Heritage Centre, Exeter.
> and a source citation:
> St Margaret (Topsham, Devon, England), "Marriages 1417A/PR/1/15 
> 1837-1881," Page 1, No 1 1837 marriage of William Harris & Rebecca 
> Mawditt; Images courtesy of Sou

Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer for UK Baptisms

[Cathy Pinner]

Ian,
It's not possible to make your own SourceWriter templates. This has been 
asked for, but for some reason rejected.


Another tip for UK records. Anything at the The National Archives can be 
sourced using a Census template that has the relevant fields for the 
Department code and series number in the Master Source and a field for 
the piece number in the Source Detail.
I add folio and page to the piece box as well to follow TNA citation 
style. In this detail Elizabeth Shown Mills seems to break her 
principles of keeping a reference together. I haven't seen the latest 
editions of her work to see if she's amended her English Census models.


Cathy


Ian Thomas 
Monday, 24 April 2017 7:07 AM

Wouldn't it be great if Millenia provided add on packages that covered 
the different methods of recording in various countries at different 
times, but that would be a daunting task I'm sure.


Or – does anyone know whether Legacy’s SourceWriter Templates created 
by others for their specific purpose are “transferrable”? That is, are 
they a separate named file on the creator’s disk, which could be 
uploaded to a site where others might download and then install into 
their Legacy system on their computer?


If that is a possibility, in effect, a Legacy community resource could 
be created.


I’m not sure whether the format of SourceWriter has changed, from v8 
(or before?) to v9 of Legacy.


Ian Thomas

Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia

Barry Godbeer 
Monday, 24 April 2017 2:12 AM
Cathy,

Thank you for your quick and helpful reply.

You seem to have found a way to record non US sources in Legacy that 
would work for me. One of my concerns was possibly having a different 
Master Source for every church. If I understand your two examples 
correctly you have some Master Sources for individual churches and 
some for a central depository depending on where you sourced the 
information.


Rather than have a mix I think I will start off my baptism Master 
Sources using a central depository (SWHT/Parochial Church 
Council/Findmypast), understanding that nothing works for ever. I have 
overlooked marriage banns in the past because I didn't know what to do 
with them. Now you have given me direction.


Wouldn't it be great if Millenia provided add on packages that covered 
the different methods of recording in various countries at different 
times, but that would be a daunting task I'm sure.


Thanks again,

Barry Godbeer




On Saturday, April 22, 2017 9:56 PM, Cathy Pinner  
wrote:



Barry,

Church Records include Baptisms, Burials and Marriages. The records 
are recorded in Church Registers or "record books" in Legacy speak.
So you're looking for Church records > Church record books > created 
at local level (parish, congregation, meeting, etc) > and then the 
format you've used. I've chosen to use the Microfilm/fiche rather than 
online images as I've seem some at the Archives on microfilm in a rare 
visit to England and some online.
I use the Film ID in the Master Source to acknowledge both sources: 
eg: Images courtesy of South West Heritage Trust & Parochial Church 
Council & FindMyPast
I actually make a Master Source for each church but I could have 
instead chosen to make a Master Source for each Archive.

In my case: Dorset History Centre, the London Metropolitan Archives, etc.
I learn where the registers actually are arc hived.

So one Master Source reads: St Margaret (Topsham, Devon, England); 
Images courtesy of South West Heritage Trust and Parochial Church 
Council & FindMyPast, Devon Heritage Centre, Exeter.

and a source citation:
St Margaret (Topsham, Devon, England), "Marriages 1417A/PR/1/15 
1837-1881," Page 1, No 1 1837 marriage of William Harris & Rebecca 
Mawditt; Images courtesy of South West Heritage Trust and Parochial 
Church Council & FindMyPast, Devon Heritage Centre, Exeter.


This "1417A/PR/1/15" is the Archive reference for that particular 
register. If it's not obvious on the online site, I look at the 
Archive catalogue and find it and also record their microfilm number, 
if any is given. At the archives you can usually only see parish 
registers on microfilm - and probably now the online images.


The Source Detail has a "Title" field for the name of the actual 
register ( or church and register if you chose to have one Master 
Source for Devon Heritage Centre)
Then one for Item of interest where I record the page and record 
number from the register etc


Here's one for Dorset: Saint Lawrence (Folke, Dorset, England), 
"Christenings  PE/FOL/RE 2/1  1813-1906," p 1, no 3 baptism of George 
Uppill (1813); Images courtesy DHC and Ancestry.com; DHC microfilm 
MIC/R/511, Dorset History Centre, Dorchester.


Does that help?
Cathy

Barry Godbeer wrote:
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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer for UK Baptisms

[Ian Thomas]

Wouldn't it be great if Millenia provided add on packages that covered the 
different methods of recording in various countries at different times, but 
that would be a daunting task I'm sure.

Or – does anyone know whether Legacy’s SourceWriter Templates created by others 
for their specific purpose are “transferrable”? That is, are they a separate 
named file on the creator’s disk, which could be uploaded to a site where 
others might download and then install into their Legacy system on their 
computer?
If that is a possibility, in effect, a Legacy community resource could be 
created.
I’m not sure whether the format of SourceWriter has changed, from v8 (or 
before?) to v9 of Legacy.

Ian Thomas
Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia
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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer for UK Baptisms

[Barry Godbeer]

Cathy,
Thank you for your quick and helpful reply.
You seem to have found a way to record non US sources in Legacy that would work 
for me. One of my concerns was possibly having a different Master Source for 
every church. If I understand your two examples correctly you have some Master 
Sources for individual churches and some for a central depository depending on 
where you sourced the information.
Rather than have a mix I think I will start off my baptism Master Sources using 
a central depository (SWHT/Parochial Church Council/Findmypast), understanding 
that nothing works for ever. I have overlooked marriage banns in the past 
because I didn't know what to do with them. Now you have given me direction.
Wouldn't it be great if Millenia provided add on packages that covered the 
different methods of recording in various countries at different times, but 
that would be a daunting task I'm sure.
Thanks again,
Barry Godbeer   

 

On Saturday, April 22, 2017 9:56 PM, Cathy Pinner  
wrote:
 

 Barry,

Church Records include Baptisms, Burials and Marriages. The records are 
recorded in Church Registers or "record books" in Legacy speak.
So you're looking for Church records > Church record books > created at local 
level (parish, congregation, meeting, etc) > and then the format you've used. 
I've chosen to use the Microfilm/fiche rather than online images as I've seem 
some at the Archives on microfilm in a rare visit to England and some online.
I use the Film ID in the Master Source to acknowledge both sources: eg: Images 
courtesy of South West Heritage Trust & Parochial Church Council & FindMyPast
I actually make a Master Source for each church but I could have instead chosen 
to make a Master Source for each Archive.
In my case: Dorset History Centre, the London Metropolitan Archives, etc.
I learn where the registers actually are archived. 

So one Master Source reads: St Margaret (Topsham, Devon, England); Images 
courtesy of South West Heritage Trust and Parochial Church Council & 
FindMyPast, Devon Heritage Centre, Exeter. 
and a source citation: 
St Margaret (Topsham, Devon, England), "Marriages 1417A/PR/1/15 1837-1881," 
Page 1, No 1 1837 marriage of William Harris & Rebecca Mawditt; Images courtesy 
of South West Heritage Trust and Parochial Church Council & FindMyPast, Devon 
Heritage Centre, Exeter. 

This "1417A/PR/1/15" is the Archive reference for that particular register. If 
it's not obvious on the online site, I look at the Archive catalogue and find 
it and also record their microfilm number, if any is given. At the archives you 
can usually only see parish registers on microfilm - and probably now the 
online images.

The Source Detail has a "Title" field for the name of the actual register ( or 
church and register if you chose to have one Master Source for Devon Heritage 
Centre)
Then one for Item of interest where I record the page and record number from 
the register etc 

Here's one for Dorset: Saint Lawrence (Folke, Dorset, England), "Christenings  
PE/FOL/RE 2/1  1813-1906," p 1, no 3 baptism of George Uppill (1813); Images 
courtesy DHC and Ancestry.com; DHC microfilm MIC/R/511, Dorset History Centre, 
Dorchester. 

Does that help?
Cathy

Barry Godbeer wrote:


I am having a hard time finding the a appropriate Source Writer for 
Baptisms in various counties in England and Wales.

The Source Writer for Church Records mentions nothing about Baptisms, 
unless I have developed tunnel vision, and it is there right under my 
nose.

My OS is Microsoft Vista and my LFT is 8.0.0.598. Must update computer 
soon!

As attachments are not allowed I will try to explain my problem.

I have an image of a Baptism, viewed in Findmypast, in the Parish of 
Lower Brixham (Devon, England) that has a page number and an entry 
number with a reference to South West Heritage Trust and Parochial 
Church Council in the left margin.

The transcript, copyright of Findmypast, has, besides the name of the 
individual, date of Baptism, father and mother,etc it list the
location of the Baptism as Brixham, All Saints (not mentioned on the 
image), the Archive as South West Heritage Trust (no mention of the 
Parochial Church Council), an archive reference (1955A/PR/1/1) that 
makes no mention of the page number or line number and whose archive 
reference is it?

For sourcing purposes who holds the original Baptism document, the 
Parochial Church Council, South West Heritage Trust or Findmypast? 
Only the South West Heritage Trust and Findmypast have URLs. In years 
to come which of the three will still be around?

Do I select Source Writer>Church Records>Church Record Books>created 
at local level (parish, congregation, meetings, etc and do I do the 
best I can with that? The Source Detail related to this Master Source 
is not very informative.

To date I have not attached any images or transcripts to any sources 
or citations which might help complete the picture of the source, but 
that's another To Do Task.

Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer for UK Baptisms

[Cathy Pinner]

Barry,

Church Records include Baptisms, Burials and Marriages. The records are 
recorded in Church Registers or "record books" in Legacy speak.
So you're looking for Church records > Church record books > created at 
local level (parish, congregation, meeting, etc) > and then the format 
you've used. I've chosen to use the Microfilm/fiche rather than online 
images as I've seem some at the Archives on microfilm in a rare visit to 
England and some online.
I use the Film ID in the Master Source to acknowledge both sources: eg: 
Images courtesy of South West Heritage Trust & Parochial Church Council 
& FindMyPast
I actually make a Master Source for each church but I could have instead 
chosen to make a Master Source for each Archive.

In my case: Dorset History Centre, the London Metropolitan Archives, etc.
I learn where the registers actually are archived.

So one Master Source reads: St Margaret (Topsham, Devon, England); 
Images courtesy of South West Heritage Trust and Parochial Church 
Council & FindMyPast, Devon Heritage Centre, Exeter.

and a source citation:
St Margaret (Topsham, Devon, England), "Marriages 1417A/PR/1/15 
1837-1881," Page 1, No 1 1837 marriage of William Harris & Rebecca 
Mawditt; Images courtesy of South West Heritage Trust and Parochial 
Church Council & FindMyPast, Devon Heritage Centre, Exeter.


This "1417A/PR/1/15" is the Archive reference for that particular 
register. If it's not obvious on the online site, I look at the Archive 
catalogue and find it and also record their microfilm number, if any is 
given. At the archives you can usually only see parish registers on 
microfilm - and probably now the online images.


The Source Detail has a "Title" field for the name of the actual 
register ( or church and register if you chose to have one Master Source 
for Devon Heritage Centre)
Then one for Item of interest where I record the page and record number 
from the register etc


Here's one for Dorset: Saint Lawrence (Folke, Dorset, England), 
"Christenings PE/FOL/RE 2/1 1813-1906," p 1, no 3 baptism of George 
Uppill (1813); Images courtesy DHC and Ancestry.com; DHC microfilm 
MIC/R/511, Dorset History Centre, Dorchester.


Does that help?
Cathy

Barry Godbeer wrote:


I am having a hard time finding the a appropriate Source Writer for
Baptisms in various counties in England and Wales.

The Source Writer for Church Records mentions nothing about Baptisms,
unless I have developed tunnel vision, and it is there right under my
nose.

My OS is Microsoft Vista and my LFT is 8.0.0.598. Must update computer
soon!

As attachments are not allowed I will try to explain my problem.

I have an image of a Baptism, viewed in Findmypast, in the Parish of
Lower Brixham (Devon, England) that has a page number and an entry
number with a reference to South West Heritage Trust and Parochial
Church Council in the left margin.

The transcript, copyright of Findmypast, has, besides the name of the
individual, date of Baptism, father and mother,etc it list the
location of the Baptism as Brixham, All Saints (not mentioned on the
image), the Archive as South West Heritage Trust (no mention of the
Parochial Church Council), an archive reference (1955A/PR/1/1) that
makes no mention of the page number or line number and whose archive
reference is it?

For sourcing purposes who holds the original Baptism document, the
Parochial Church Council, South West Heritage Trust or Findmypast?
Only the South West Heritage Trust and Findmypast have URLs. In years
to come which of the three will still be around?

Do I select Source Writer>Church Records>Church Record Books>created
at local level (parish, congregation, meetings, etc and do I do the
best I can with that? The Source Detail related to this Master Source
is not very informative.

To date I have not attached any images or transcripts to any sources
or citations which might help complete the picture of the source, but
that's another To Do Task.

So does anyone have any suggestions? Has anyone with ancestors in
England come up with a solution that makes sense?

Barry Godbeer

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RE: [LegacyUG] Source Writer - Yet to added Template

[Fred Lindsay]

Thanks Jenny.
Fred

> From: ge...@cedarbank.me.uk
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer - Yet to added Template
> Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2013 10:18:17 +0100
>
> On 11/08/2013 22:39, Fred Lindsay wrote:
> >
> > The 1921 Canadian Census has finally been released and is available for
> > viewing on-line.  Source Writer cannot be used to record this data
> > because the template is not in the Legacy program.  I am concerned about
> > using Basic Source because of a statement in the Help File that says "
> > If you always want to use the old system, go to *Options* > *Customize*
> >  > *Sources* and select *Basic System*. "
> > I do not want to 'always use' the old system but would like to use it to
> > get this 1921 data in my Family File.
> > Any suggestions as to how to get around this issue?
>
> You don't need to change your choice in Options if you only want to add
> one Source in Basic style.
>
> When you click on Add Source, the first option in the list on the left
> is "*Add a Basic Style Source" and clicking on that takes you straight
> into the Basic Source screen, rather than through all the selections for
> a SW template.
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer - Yet to added Template

[Jenny M Benson]

On 11/08/2013 22:39, Fred Lindsay wrote:
>
> The 1921 Canadian Census has finally been released and is available for
> viewing on-line.  Source Writer cannot be used to record this data
> because the template is not in the Legacy program.  I am concerned about
> using Basic Source because of a statement in the Help File that says "
> If you always want to use the old system, go to *Options* > *Customize*
>  > *Sources* and select *Basic System*. "
> I do not want to 'always use' the old system but would like to use it to
> get this 1921 data in my Family File.
> Any suggestions as to how to get around this issue?

You don't need to change your choice in Options if you only want to add
one Source in Basic style.

When you click on Add Source, the first option in the list on the left
is "*Add a Basic Style Source" and clicking on that takes you straight
into the Basic Source screen, rather than through all the selections for
a SW template.

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RE: [LegacyUG] Source Writer - Yet to added Template

[Fred Lindsay]

Thanks Wendy.  I'll give it a go.
Fred

> From: wendy.how...@gmail.com
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer - Yet to added Template
> Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2013 10:03:48 +1200
>
> Hi Fred,
>
> You can switch back and forth between Basic and Source Writer as you
> please.  You won't be stuck with one or the other.
>
> If you choose to switch to Basic, you'll find there is a similar option
> to switch to Source Writer offered there.  Look for the button saying
> "Use SourceWriter instead".
>
> Kind Regards,
> Wendy
>
> Fred Lindsay said the following on 12/08/2013 9:39 a.m.:
> >
> > The 1921 Canadian Census has finally been released and is available
> > for viewing on-line.  Source Writer cannot be used to record this data
> > because the template is not in the Legacy program.  I am concerned
> > about using Basic Source because of a statement in the Help File that
> > says " If you always want to use the old system, go to *Options* >
> > *Customize* > *Sources* and select *Basic System*. "
> > I do not want to 'always use' the old system but would like to use it
> > to get this 1921 data in my Family File.
> > Any suggestions as to how to get around this issue?
> >
> > Thanks and regards to all,
> > Fred




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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer - Yet to added Template

[Wendy Howard]

Hi Fred,

You can switch back and forth between Basic and Source Writer as you
please.  You won't be stuck with one or the other.

If you choose to switch to Basic, you'll find there is a similar option
to switch to Source Writer offered there.  Look for the button saying
"Use SourceWriter instead".

Kind Regards,
Wendy

Fred Lindsay said the following on 12/08/2013 9:39 a.m.:
>
> The 1921 Canadian Census has finally been released and is available
> for viewing on-line.  Source Writer cannot be used to record this data
> because the template is not in the Legacy program.  I am concerned
> about using Basic Source because of a statement in the Help File that
> says " If you always want to use the old system, go to *Options* >
> *Customize* > *Sources* and select *Basic System*. "
> I do not want to 'always use' the old system but would like to use it
> to get this 1921 data in my Family File.
> Any suggestions as to how to get around this issue?
>
> Thanks and regards to all,
> Fred



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RE: [LegacyUG] Source Writer

[Alan Pereira]

Brian
I would have a problem with Repositories being exported, but have just checked 
and they are not if you have chosen not to.  There is a REPO entry being 
exported but it is not the name, address and email details of the source 
(Phew!).
I had a problem with my database producing nulls on check / repair.  Export to 
gedcom and import back into Legacy resolved this.  I also discovered in that 
process the following, which I now keep a note of.

"When creating an email source using Sourcewriter and subsequently exporting 
the file as a GEDCOM, the Title of the source gets dropped for the words which 
come after the expression "[(E-ADDRESS FOR PRIVATE USE),]". The Title gets 
referred to as "ABBR" in the GEDCOM and is not imported as the source Title 
into any other software.
What's even worse, is that the ABBR field gets contacenated with the Comments 
field by some software, effectively making the source unintelligible."

I do not use Sourcewriter as I want to keep my database independent of 
Genealogical Software, so would use gedcom to migrate platforms.

Alan


-Original Message-
From: Brian L. Lightfoot [mailto:br...@the-lightfoots.com]
Sent: 18 April 2013 20:52
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Source Writer

I'd be curious to know exactly what problems you and others are experiencing in 
the creation of a GEDCOM from SW. Or am I misunderstanding what you are saying?

My understanding of what Sherry is cautioning about is that if you then take 
that same GEDCOM and re-import it back into Legacy, the SW format is lost and 
everything is converted to the Basic format. That is understandable but I don't 
know why or when anyone would want to do that. As Sherry said, a GEDCOM is not 
your first choice for creating a Legacy backup but in a case of last resort, it 
would still have all the data there.

I'm getting the impression that some people are staying away from the SW format 
because they think it somehow screws up a GEDCOM report. There is only one 
issue that I have noticed in the creation of my own GEDCOM using SW sources. 
For some reason, the REPO (Repository) element remains even though the GEDCOM 
template I'm using has excluded the REPO element. I'm not sure if this is the 
fault of GEDCOM or if the Legacy customization menu for GEDCOMs is slightly 
defective. Not really a big issue either way.

Brian in California


-Original Message-
From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 12:01 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer

Sherry,

Whilst what you say is accurate, many of us do export using a GEDCOM for 
publication of our websites. I appreciate that this is a GEDCOM problem rather 
than Legacy's.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

-Original Message-
From: Sherry/Support
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 7:46 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer

Everything you enter should be included in the gedcom. It's just that when you 
import the gedcom into Legacy, the sources will show in the "Basic" format 
rather than SourceWriter format.

But, unless you're going back to an earlier version of Legacy which doesn't 
support SourceWriter anyway, you wouldn't use a gedcom to move a file from 
Legacy to Legacy.  You'd do a backup and restore (File > Backup Family File). 
The gedcom should only be used for moving data into a different program or 
uploading to a website.


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 11:12 AM, Barbara  wrote:
> Here is my dilemma:  I would like to use Source Writer for my sourcing
> in Legacy to be sure that I've sourced according to standards.  But
> now I've heard that the data produced using Source Writer doesn't
> always translate correctly into Gedcom.  What do other people do?
> Barbara




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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer

[Ron Ferguson]

Brian,

Basically sources are not reproduced correctly in other software (ie not
Legacy) because of incompatibility between the GEDCOM and the software, It
mainly affects those of us who use other software for webpages. I use SW and
put up with the problem.

Legacy is not on its own FTM, and my be other, software have the same
problem.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

-Original Message-
From: Brian L. Lightfoot
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 8:52 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Source Writer

I'd be curious to know exactly what problems you and others are experiencing
in the creation of a GEDCOM from SW. Or am I misunderstanding what you are
saying?

My understanding of what Sherry is cautioning about is that if you then take
that same GEDCOM and re-import it back into Legacy, the SW format is lost
and everything is converted to the Basic format. That is understandable but
I don't know why or when anyone would want to do that. As Sherry said, a
GEDCOM is not your first choice for creating a Legacy backup but in a case
of last resort, it would still have all the data there.

I'm getting the impression that some people are staying away from the SW
format because they think it somehow screws up a GEDCOM report. There is
only one issue that I have noticed in the creation of my own GEDCOM using SW
sources. For some reason, the REPO (Repository) element remains even though
the GEDCOM template I'm using has excluded the REPO element. I'm not sure if
this is the fault of GEDCOM or if the Legacy customization menu for GEDCOMs
is slightly defective. Not really a big issue either way.

Brian in California


-Original Message-
From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 12:01 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer

Sherry,

Whilst what you say is accurate, many of us do export using a GEDCOM for
publication of our websites. I appreciate that this is a GEDCOM problem
rather than Legacy's.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

-Original Message-
From: Sherry/Support
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 7:46 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer

Everything you enter should be included in the gedcom. It's just that when
you import the gedcom into Legacy, the sources will show in the "Basic"
format rather than SourceWriter format.

But, unless you're going back to an earlier version of Legacy which doesn't
support SourceWriter anyway, you wouldn't use a gedcom to move a file from
Legacy to Legacy.  You'd do a backup and restore (File > Backup Family
File). The gedcom should only be used for moving data into a different
program or uploading to a website.


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 11:12 AM, Barbara  wrote:
> Here is my dilemma:  I would like to use Source Writer for my sourcing
> in Legacy to be sure that I've sourced according to standards.  But
> now I've heard that the data produced using Source Writer doesn't
> always translate correctly into Gedcom.  What do other people do?
> Barbara




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RE: [LegacyUG] Source Writer

[Brian L. Lightfoot]

I'd be curious to know exactly what problems you and others are experiencing in 
the creation of a GEDCOM from SW. Or am I misunderstanding what you are saying?

My understanding of what Sherry is cautioning about is that if you then take 
that same GEDCOM and re-import it back into Legacy, the SW format is lost and 
everything is converted to the Basic format. That is understandable but I don't 
know why or when anyone would want to do that. As Sherry said, a GEDCOM is not 
your first choice for creating a Legacy backup but in a case of last resort, it 
would still have all the data there.

I'm getting the impression that some people are staying away from the SW format 
because they think it somehow screws up a GEDCOM report. There is only one 
issue that I have noticed in the creation of my own GEDCOM using SW sources. 
For some reason, the REPO (Repository) element remains even though the GEDCOM 
template I'm using has excluded the REPO element. I'm not sure if this is the 
fault of GEDCOM or if the Legacy customization menu for GEDCOMs is slightly 
defective. Not really a big issue either way.

Brian in California


-Original Message-
From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 12:01 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer

Sherry,

Whilst what you say is accurate, many of us do export using a GEDCOM for 
publication of our websites. I appreciate that this is a GEDCOM problem rather 
than Legacy's.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

-Original Message-
From: Sherry/Support
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 7:46 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer

Everything you enter should be included in the gedcom. It's just that when you 
import the gedcom into Legacy, the sources will show in the "Basic" format 
rather than SourceWriter format.

But, unless you're going back to an earlier version of Legacy which doesn't 
support SourceWriter anyway, you wouldn't use a gedcom to move a file from 
Legacy to Legacy.  You'd do a backup and restore (File > Backup Family File). 
The gedcom should only be used for moving data into a different program or 
uploading to a website.


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 11:12 AM, Barbara  wrote:
> Here is my dilemma:  I would like to use Source Writer for my sourcing
> in Legacy to be sure that I've sourced according to standards.  But
> now I've heard that the data produced using Source Writer doesn't
> always translate correctly into Gedcom.  What do other people do?
> Barbara




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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer

[Ward Walker]

Barbara,

Some people don't use SW for this reason. I use it, but when I share my data
with a distant cousin via GEDCOM, I warn them that some of the source
citations will appear a bit garbled.

There have been discussions about this, which you can find in the LUG
archive. The problem varies with the nature of the source template. Many
templates compose the citation by interspersing  data from the master source
and the detail source fields. When Legacy exports such a source citation to
GEDCOM, all the master fields are together, followed by all the detail
fields. So the resulting citation reads a bit scrambled, and there can be
issues with punctuation and with label words that weren't part of the actual
data. You can experiment to see what it does to your data.

(I have long maintained that Legacy developers could create an optional
workaround to this limitation of the GEDCOM standard. The citation could be
formatted as if for printing and then written to GEDCOM as a basic-style
source detail. This would be helpful for one-way transfers.)

  Ward

-Original Message-
From: Sherry/Support
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 3:14 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer

Right - that's included in my comments about exporting to another
program or uploading to a website. My point was that if you're sharing
a file "Legacy to Legacy", unless you're going back to an earlier
version of Legacy, you wouldn't use a gedcom. And previous versions
wouldn't support the SourceWriter anyway.

The important thing is that the information is exported and *should*
be imported by the program you're using.


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 12:00 PM, Ron Ferguson
 wrote:
> Sherry,
>
> Whilst what you say is accurate, many of us do export using a GEDCOM for
> publication of our websites. I appreciate that this is a GEDCOM problem
> rather than Legacy's.
>
> Ron Ferguson
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Sherry/Support
> Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 7:46 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer
>
> Everything you enter should be included in the gedcom. It's just that
> when you import the gedcom into Legacy, the sources will show in the
> "Basic" format rather than SourceWriter format.
>
> But, unless you're going back to an earlier version of Legacy which
> doesn't support SourceWriter anyway, you wouldn't use a gedcom to move
> a file from Legacy to Legacy.  You'd do a backup and restore (File >
> Backup Family File). The gedcom should only be used for moving data
> into a different program or uploading to a website.
>
>
> Sincerely,
> Sherry
> Technical Support
> Legacy Family Tree
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 11:12 AM, Barbara  wrote:
>> Here is my dilemma:  I would like to use Source Writer for my sourcing
>> in Legacy to be sure that I've sourced according to standards.  But now
>> I've heard that the data produced using Source Writer doesn't always
>> translate correctly into Gedcom.  What do other people do?
>> Barbara
>




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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer

[Sherry/Support]

Right - that's included in my comments about exporting to another
program or uploading to a website. My point was that if you're sharing
a file "Legacy to Legacy", unless you're going back to an earlier
version of Legacy, you wouldn't use a gedcom. And previous versions
wouldn't support the SourceWriter anyway.

The important thing is that the information is exported and *should*
be imported by the program you're using.


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 12:00 PM, Ron Ferguson
 wrote:
> Sherry,
>
> Whilst what you say is accurate, many of us do export using a GEDCOM for
> publication of our websites. I appreciate that this is a GEDCOM problem
> rather than Legacy's.
>
> Ron Ferguson
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Sherry/Support
> Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 7:46 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer
>
> Everything you enter should be included in the gedcom. It's just that
> when you import the gedcom into Legacy, the sources will show in the
> "Basic" format rather than SourceWriter format.
>
> But, unless you're going back to an earlier version of Legacy which
> doesn't support SourceWriter anyway, you wouldn't use a gedcom to move
> a file from Legacy to Legacy.  You'd do a backup and restore (File >
> Backup Family File). The gedcom should only be used for moving data
> into a different program or uploading to a website.
>
>
> Sincerely,
> Sherry
> Technical Support
> Legacy Family Tree
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 11:12 AM, Barbara  wrote:
>> Here is my dilemma:  I would like to use Source Writer for my sourcing
>> in Legacy to be sure that I've sourced according to standards.  But now
>> I've heard that the data produced using Source Writer doesn't always
>> translate correctly into Gedcom.  What do other people do?
>> Barbara
>



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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer

[Ron Ferguson]

Sherry,

Whilst what you say is accurate, many of us do export using a GEDCOM for
publication of our websites. I appreciate that this is a GEDCOM problem
rather than Legacy's.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

-Original Message-
From: Sherry/Support
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 7:46 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer

Everything you enter should be included in the gedcom. It's just that
when you import the gedcom into Legacy, the sources will show in the
"Basic" format rather than SourceWriter format.

But, unless you're going back to an earlier version of Legacy which
doesn't support SourceWriter anyway, you wouldn't use a gedcom to move
a file from Legacy to Legacy.  You'd do a backup and restore (File >
Backup Family File). The gedcom should only be used for moving data
into a different program or uploading to a website.


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 11:12 AM, Barbara  wrote:
> Here is my dilemma:  I would like to use Source Writer for my sourcing
> in Legacy to be sure that I've sourced according to standards.  But now
> I've heard that the data produced using Source Writer doesn't always
> translate correctly into Gedcom.  What do other people do?
> Barbara




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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer

[Sherry/Support]

Everything you enter should be included in the gedcom. It's just that
when you import the gedcom into Legacy, the sources will show in the
"Basic" format rather than SourceWriter format.

But, unless you're going back to an earlier version of Legacy which
doesn't support SourceWriter anyway, you wouldn't use a gedcom to move
a file from Legacy to Legacy.  You'd do a backup and restore (File >
Backup Family File). The gedcom should only be used for moving data
into a different program or uploading to a website.


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 11:12 AM, Barbara  wrote:
> Here is my dilemma:  I would like to use Source Writer for my sourcing
> in Legacy to be sure that I've sourced according to standards.  But now
> I've heard that the data produced using Source Writer doesn't always
> translate correctly into Gedcom.  What do other people do?
> Barbara



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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer

[Ron Ferguson]

Cathy,

I see that, as yet, you have not received a comment on your post, and I suspect 
that this may be because others, like myself found, it difficult to picture 
what you are trying to say.

Source Writer has two parts, the Master Source and the Detail. It would be 
helpful if you first said what Master Source Template you are using and what 
you have entered into its various boxes. Similarly for the Detail. You say 
“However, the text for the citation in the right hand window only shows my city 
and not the state”, I am not entirely sure as to what you mean be the “right 
hand window” – do you mean the text which is displayed to the right of the box 
for the Source Detail?

When we can determine the exact problem, then the other questions which you 
pose can be addressed.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/


From: Sentz
Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2013 11:41 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Source Writer

I entered a birth certificate through the Source Writer for myself.  The birth 
certificate is in my own repository.  However, the text for the citation in the 
right hand window only shows my city and not the state.  I tried to add the 
state through over ride, but it did not appear that I could make a change here. 
 I also checked the Repository listing.  I had typed out New York (state).  
Could this have made a difference?

Also, when I clicked the highlighted book for the Source Writer to check the 
citation, it was listed beside Christened rather than Birth.  How can I change 
this back to Birth?  I clicked on edit source and didn't see how this could be 
done.  Also, Chistened is highlighted in my detail, which it should not be if 
this was an actual Christening listing.

In addition, I'd like to print out individual reports.  I found where to do 
this, however, when I looked at the print preview it did not include my birth 
certificate, only the items that I downloaded to Legacy from Ancestry via a 
Gedcom some time ago after I bought Legacy. (it actually showed a lot regarding 
my parents.)  Show source using print options is checked on the source 
citation.  Also, in the report menu under the source tab, print source 
citations is checked as are some of the items under this.

Your advice would be appreciated.

Cathy



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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer - Which type/subtype format to use? Local newspaper obit guestbook postings via www.Legacy.com

[Jenny M Benson]

On 06/11/2012 21:06, BA JD wrote:
> I'm still working out what source type/subtype to use when trying to
> correctly source some information.
>
> Background - A distant relative died and their obituary was in the local
> area newspaper (Democrat and Chronicle, Rochester, NY). In addition,
> friends had "posted" in the guestbook their condolences. I start at the
> newspaper's website but end up viewing the obituary and guestbook
> entries in www.legacy.com...
> www.legacy.com/guestbooks/democratandchronicle/guestbook or
> www.legacy.com/obituaries/democratandchronicle/obituary..
>
> How do I set up the master source format?  The "detail" will be the
> person's name and specifics.
>
> I first thought - source writer step one - type - Newspaper, sub-type
> "medium" - online images ( issued by unrelated content provider ).  Step
> 2 - fills in local newspaper items.  Step 3 Detail - the detail items
> don't seem to be a good match.
>

Just because there are fields there, it doesn't mean you have to fill
them in.  Just use the ones which are appropriate, or put some
information in a field which has an "inappropriate" name if you wish.

Try putting some details in and see what the resulting citation looks
like.  I just set up a "test" with the template you mention - I just put
"Obituary Joe Bloggs" in the Detail Article field and entered an issue
date, specific URL and access date.  I ignored the Author, Page and
Column fields.  The resulting citation is:

"Obituary - Joe Bloggs," Newspaper Title, 01 January 2001, online
archives (www.something.com/article : accessed 06 November 2012).

and the Bibliography is:

State. City. Newspaper Title. Online archives. www.something.com.

with the title of the newspaper in italics in both cases.

That looks perfectly satisfactory to me.


--
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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer vs Basic Sources in .gedcoms

[Ron Ferguson]

Richard,

That is only partially accurate. Yes, the information is there, but the
problem is that the Source Details are in a form which another program
cannot read.

As I stated previously, this is a problem which affects all programs which
have an SW type source format, not a Legacy problem as such.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

-Original Message-
From: Richard Van Wasshnova
Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2012 12:38 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer vs Basic Sources in .gedcoms

Pat,

If you use Source Writer to enter sources, then export to gedcom, I'm
fairly certain the information is still there, just in basic format.
Brian or Sherry or anyone correct me if I'm wrong.

--
Richard Van Wasshnova

On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 7:26 AM, Pat Hickin  wrote:
> Ron, You wrote: "Splitters still have Source Details. It is, however, an
> argument in favour of only using Basic Sources, and not Source Writer."
>
> This seems to imply that the/a .gedcom would pick up source details when a
> source was entered via "Basic Sources" and omit it if it had been entered
> via "Source Writer."
>
> But my (generic) .gedcom is omitting ALL details.
>
> I know Splitters still have Source Details.  By and large, I'm a splitter.
>
> My point is that if gedcoms are going to drop the Source details,one has
> to
> become an EXTREME splitter (down to page numbers in the Source -- instead
> of
> just in the Source Detail!) if one wants the info to carry over into a
> (generic) .gedcom.
>
> I wish some of the Support people would comment on this whole matter.
>
> I just got thru reading Legacy Help on SourceWriter and I find nothing
> relevant as to how it carries over into a .gedcom.
>
> Pat
>




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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer vs Basic Sources in .gedcoms

[Richard Van Wasshnova]

Pat,

If you use Source Writer to enter sources, then export to gedcom, I'm
fairly certain the information is still there, just in basic format.
Brian or Sherry or anyone correct me if I'm wrong.

--
Richard Van Wasshnova

On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 7:26 AM, Pat Hickin  wrote:
> Ron, You wrote: "Splitters still have Source Details. It is, however, an
> argument in favour of only using Basic Sources, and not Source Writer."
>
> This seems to imply that the/a .gedcom would pick up source details when a
> source was entered via "Basic Sources" and omit it if it had been entered
> via "Source Writer."
>
> But my (generic) .gedcom is omitting ALL details.
>
> I know Splitters still have Source Details.  By and large, I'm a splitter.
>
> My point is that if gedcoms are going to drop the Source details,one has to
> become an EXTREME splitter (down to page numbers in the Source -- instead of
> just in the Source Detail!) if one wants the info to carry over into a
> (generic) .gedcom.
>
> I wish some of the Support people would comment on this whole matter.
>
> I just got thru reading Legacy Help on SourceWriter and I find nothing
> relevant as to how it carries over into a .gedcom.
>
> Pat
>



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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer vs Basic Sources in .gedcoms

[Pat Hickin]

Done!!  Thanks,Ron!

Pat

On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Ron Ferguson wrote:

> Pat,
>
> On the Export page click the Customise, then in the top check that the PAGE
> tag is in the top right window (Export these items) if not use the include
> button to transfer it.
>
> Ron Ferguson
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
>
>
> From: Pat Hickin
> Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 3:26 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Source Writer vs Basic Sources in .gedcoms
>
> Ron, You wrote: "Splitters still have Source Details. It is, however, an
> argument in favour of only using Basic Sources, and not Source Writer."
>
> This seems to imply that the/a .gedcom would pick up source details when a
> source was entered via "Basic Sources" and omit it if it had been entered
> via "Source Writer."
>
> But my (generic) .gedcom is omitting ALL details.
>
> I know Splitters still have Source Details.  By and large, I'm a splitter.
>
> My point is that if gedcoms are going to drop the Source details,one has to
> become an EXTREME splitter (down to page numbers in the Source -- instead
> of
> just in the Source Detail!) if one wants the info to carry over into a
> (generic) .gedcom.
>
> I wish some of the Support people would comment on this whole matter.
>
> I just got thru reading Legacy Help on SourceWriter and I find nothing
> relevant as to how it carries over into a .gedcom.
>
> Pat
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer vs Basic Sources in .gedcoms

[Ron Ferguson]

Pat,

On the Export page click the Customise, then in the top check that the PAGE
tag is in the top right window (Export these items) if not use the include
button to transfer it.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/


From: Pat Hickin
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 3:26 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Source Writer vs Basic Sources in .gedcoms

Ron, You wrote: "Splitters still have Source Details. It is, however, an
argument in favour of only using Basic Sources, and not Source Writer."

This seems to imply that the/a .gedcom would pick up source details when a
source was entered via "Basic Sources" and omit it if it had been entered
via "Source Writer."

But my (generic) .gedcom is omitting ALL details.

I know Splitters still have Source Details.  By and large, I'm a splitter.

My point is that if gedcoms are going to drop the Source details,one has to
become an EXTREME splitter (down to page numbers in the Source -- instead of
just in the Source Detail!) if one wants the info to carry over into a
(generic) .gedcom.

I wish some of the Support people would comment on this whole matter.

I just got thru reading Legacy Help on SourceWriter and I find nothing
relevant as to how it carries over into a .gedcom.

Pat








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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer and Clipboard

[JLB]

LZW is lossless compression for TIFF's that will cut the file size in
about half if hard-drive space is an issue. Choose that option when
you're saving an image. To reconstitute just open the file and re-save
with Compression:None.

You can't get better definition out of an image by scanning at high res
than is in the image to begin with. Considering your monitor can
probably only see 96 dpi and regular home printers run in the range of
200-300 dpi, 1200 dpi is some other planet.

What is band-width nowadays with a free Dropbox account? I don't
hesitate for a second sending TIFF's over.

The reason to link JPG's to Legacy instead of TIFF's is because Legacy
will freeze if you try to do otherwise unless your TIFF's are very small.
---
JL Beeken
JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/

On 8/23/2012 8:27 PM, Ian GARDENER wrote:
> Tiff files were, and to some degree still are, the preferred format four HIGH 
> QUALITY images, but this is becoming less favoured with each revision of the 
> jpeg standard. The real problem with tiffs is that they are huge in 
> comparison to jpeg files and consequently have issues in that:
>
> *They take up a lot of space&  hardware real estate.
>
> *They have much longer data transfer times.
>
> *They tie up internet bandwidth unnecessarily.
>
> *Most home pc's simply cannot process a really large high quality tiff, ie 
> try loading a 1200dpi tiff file and your computer will freeze. Note 1200dpi 
> is more for professional work but it demonstrates the point.
>
> They do still have their place in my opinion but you have to carefully 
> evaluate what that is.
>
> For me, I store all my images within legacy (other than pdf's) as jpg files. 
> However images that I rate as critical and/or irreplaceable, I keep a high 
> quality tiff image on a backup medium away from my home. An example would be 
> old family photographs that are only copies. If my house burns down I can 
> reproduce a true high quality image on photographic paper from the tiff file.
>
> Mine is but one opinion of many in the image standard debate :)
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Sentz [mailto:ro...@nycap.rr.com]
> Sent: Thursday, 23 August 2012 8:52 AM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re[2]: [LegacyUG] Source Writer and Clipboard
>
> Lots of nuances to the source writer.  When I click on the event and then 
> click on the source citation in the event window, the citation does show up 
> on the list for alt. death and I did find it in the main citation list for 
> the record by scrolling down further.  The document image was saved on my 
> computer as a .jpg file.  I did as you suggested and saved the picture to the 
> event.  Should we be saving the picture to
> the event and the citation?
> Geoff mentioned in his last webinar saving some things in a .tif file
> as opposed to a .jpg.   Does anyone recall the reasoning behind this?
> Something about the difference in the documents, ie. Bible records vs.
> other types of records.  Why would one file type be better than the other?
>
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Jenny M Benson"
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com
> Sent: 8/22/2012 7:26:11 AM
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer and Clipboard
>> On 21/08/2012 23:45, Sentz wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> One of the reasons I bought Legacy was because of the sourcewriter and
>>> clipboard tools. I have been struggling with these tools for about a
>>> year.  I have rerun Geoff's start up Ultimate Guide on the topic and
>>> watched his various webinars where he uses the source writer and
>>> clipboard, including his most recent one, and have also read
>>> documentation.   I think I have the process down and then something goes
>
>>> haywire with the sourcewriter or the clipboard.  I am not a novice
>>> with data entry or relational data bases, so this is getting very
>>> frustrating. What I end up doing is not doing anything in the database
>>> for a while, take a breather and try again.
>>> The latest problemI was entering an alternate death event for my
>>> great grandmother.  I clicked on the tirangle and set up the master
>>> source which went okay.  Then I set up the detail including linking an
>>> image of the page from the death index that I had downloaded and
>>> cropped from Family Search.  Everything looked okay and I clicked save
>>> and then clicked the bar on the left on the window for the event
>>> detail.  Then saved the event. It's my understanding that a plus sign
>>> should show on the line following the event.  Am 

Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer and Clipboard

[Ron Ferguson]

Brian,

I would add that most reliable picture editing program allow one to save the
image in their own format. Apart from being lossless this also means that
changes made previous can be undone, usually back to the base image if
necessary. This is how I save the pictures which I have worked on, rather
than converting all (or saving every scan) to TIFF. This does take up quite
a lot less space on my PC, because if I have not worked on a picture then it
is still in the JPG format.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

-Original Message-
From: Brian/Support
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 1:43 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer and Clipboard

It is your choice whether to attach the image to the event, the source
or both. If you attach a picture to an event (excluding birth, Chr/Bapt,
death and burial) the picture can be included in narrative reports and
will appear in the body of the report when the event is included.
Pictures attached only to sources will only appear in the source
citation listing at the end of the report if source pictures are selected.

Re file formats: The Tif format Geoff recommends is for saving original
scans. This is a loss-less format that includes all the detail from the
original scan. Editing and saving again as a tif makes no change to the
quality of the picture. It creates a large sized file because of this. A
jpg file is a lossy format. It creates a smaller size file but loses a
small amount of detail. Usually this loss is minimal with the first save
but editing and re-saving a jpg file many times will result in
degradation each cycle of edit and save and can lead to significant
degradation in the picture quality.

The recommendation is that you scan and save an original in tif format.
You then edit and create a jpg copy of this file for attaching within
Legacy. This gives you a high quality original if you need to perform
further edits and a smaller file to attach to Legacy.

Brian
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Millennia Corporation
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On 22/08/2012 18:51, Sentz wrote:
> Lots of nuances to the source writer.  When I click on the event and
> then click on the source citation in the event window, the citation
> does show up on the list for alt. death and I did find it in the main
> citation list for the record by scrolling down further.  The document
> image was saved on my computer as a .jpg file.  I did as you suggested
> and saved the picture to the event.  Should we be saving the picture to
> the event and the citation?
> Geoff mentioned in his last webinar saving some things in a .tif file
> as opposed to a .jpg.   Does anyone recall the reasoning behind this?
> Something about the difference in the documents, ie. Bible records vs.
> other types of records.  Why would one file type be better than the
> other?





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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer and Clipboard

[Jenny M Benson]

On 21/08/2012 23:45, Sentz wrote:
> One of the reasons I bought Legacy was because of the sourcewriter and
> clipboard tools. I have been struggling with these tools for about a
> year.  I have rerun Geoff's start up Ultimate Guide on the topic and
> watched his various webinars where he uses the source writer and
> clipboard, including his most recent one, and have also read
> documentation.   I think I have the process down and then something goes
> haywire with the sourcewriter or the clipboard.  I am not a novice with
> data entry or relational data bases, so this is getting very
> frustrating. What I end up doing is not doing anything in the database
> for a while, take a breather and try again.
> The latest problemI was entering an alternate death event for my
> great grandmother.  I clicked on the tirangle and set up the master
> source which went okay.  Then I set up the detail including linking an
> image of the page from the death index that I had downloaded and cropped
> from Family Search.  Everything looked okay and I clicked save and then
> clicked the bar on the left on the window for the event detail.  Then
> saved the event. It's my understanding that a plus sign should show on
> the line following the event.  Am I correct? When I check on the
> documentation link for the record, the death citation information is not
> showing.  Also, in the event window, the data field labels were
> highlighted. Perhaps is this case it has to do with where I have the
> document image stored.
> I keep thinking that there must be some little step that I am not doing
> correctly.  Any advice would be welcome.

The + will be there if you have attached a picture to the Event, not if
you have attached it to the Source.

--
Jenny M Benson



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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer question

[Jenny M Benson]

On 16/10/2011 19:52, John Gregson wrote:
> Using 7.5; under Win7-32.
>
> Source Writer screen
>Assigned Sources for:
>Text / Comments
>
> What is the difference between Master Text and Detail Text?

Both Master Sources and Source Details have fields for Text and for
Comments.  This is how I use them, when I do:

In Master Source Text I will enter an "official" description of the
Source, if I think it necessary/helpful, usually taking such information
from the webpage the Master Source relates to.  One example is "The
object of the [project] is to provide an on-line index of the 194,815
burials that took place in this cemetary from 1840 to 1978. There have
also been a small number of burials since that time in family sites."
In Master Source Comments I will add information such as "This person is
my 2nd cousin and their tree is unsourced."

FIn Detail Source Text I will enter the actual text of the particular
Source, which would be a copy of the information from a FamilySearch
page, or a transcript of a Birth Certificate, for example.Source
Detail Comments are a comment on the specific record/document I am
citing, such as writing "Patron submission" where appropriate for a
record from the IGI.
--
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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer question

[James Cook]

Sources are in two parts Master and Detail.  When entering these
parts, there is a tab in each instance called "Text/Comments".  On the
"Assigned Sources" screen, this tells you from which part the info is
coming from.



On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 1:52 PM, John Gregson  wrote:
> Using 7.5; under Win7-32.
>
> Source Writer screen
>      Assigned Sources for:
>              Text / Comments
>
> What is the difference between Master Text and Detail Text?
>
> John.
>
> --
> *John. jfgreg...@shaw.ca*
>
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RE: [LegacyUG] Source Writer

[Paul Gray]

Richard,

I'm unaware of any plans to do anything with the GEDCOM standard. As I 
understand it, GEDCOM was developed by the LDS Church as a way of sharing 
genealogical information. While I think their primary motivation was to get 
information into LDS systems (such as the old Ancestral File and IGI), it could 
be used by anyone and sharing genealogical data and that was (and still is) a 
good thing.

However, as I understand it, there has been no revision to the standard 
(although there have been some draft proposals) in over 10 years. The LDS 
church seems to moved on to a proprietary two way interface with New Family 
Search.

So, I would imagine Legacy (and others) will try to the best they can within 
the limits of the current GEDCOM standard (particularly imports since you want 
to make bringing data in to your application easy- that's good for attracting 
new customers). But, I don't see anyone with any plans to update the standard.

Paul Gray



-Original Message-
From: RICHARD SCHULTHIES [mailto:fourpa...@verizon.net]
Sent: July-19-11 2:30 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer

This has been an known issue since Legacy first created Source Writer; Part of 
the situation is no program transfers exactly using Gedcom. Even Basic has some 
problems. It will never get better, since Gedcom can't and shouldn't try to 
keep up with ALL upgrades in ALL programs (immediately).

--- On Sun, 7/17/11, RUNION ROBERT  wrote:

> From: RUNION ROBERT 
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Source Writer
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Date: Sunday, July 17, 2011, 6:11 AM
> I want to pass on an issue for those
> who might be thinking of moving to another program.  I
> am attempting  to move my Legacy files to FTM for MAC
> via GEDCOM and discovered an item folks might want to
> consider.  In using the 'Source Writer' in lieu of the
> 'Basic', to enter my sources, I have discovered that the
> move to FTMM considers all Source Writer entries to be
> errors.  Basic seemed to transfer OK.  I do so
> wish that Legacy would come up with a MAC version - I tire
> of using the Virtual Machine to Parallels or Fusion to run
> Legacy.  I love Legacy, but ..
>
> Bob
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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

This has been an known issue since Legacy first created Source Writer; Part of 
the situation is no program transfers exactly using Gedcom. Even Basic has some 
problems. It will never get better, since Gedcom can't and shouldn't try to 
keep up with ALL upgrades in ALL programs (immediately).

--- On Sun, 7/17/11, RUNION ROBERT  wrote:

> From: RUNION ROBERT 
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Source Writer
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Date: Sunday, July 17, 2011, 6:11 AM
> I want to pass on an issue for those
> who might be thinking of moving to another program.  I
> am attempting  to move my Legacy files to FTM for MAC
> via GEDCOM and discovered an item folks might want to
> consider.  In using the 'Source Writer' in lieu of the
> 'Basic', to enter my sources, I have discovered that the
> move to FTMM considers all Source Writer entries to be
> errors.  Basic seemed to transfer OK.  I do so
> wish that Legacy would come up with a MAC version - I tire
> of using the Virtual Machine to Parallels or Fusion to run
> Legacy.  I love Legacy, but ..
>
> Bob
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RE: [LegacyUG] Source Writer

[Paul Gray]

These kind of incompatibilities do give me pause to wonder what the future of 
data interchange between genealogical databases will be. Genealogical programs 
and databases will continue to evolve and improve (Source Writer is just one 
example), but GEDCOM seems to be static with no firm plans to update it. Even 
if it were updated, certain variations in database design between applications 
mean that there are no equivalent field from one program to another and no 
interface standard can fix that.

In addition, the development that is being done is specific to particular 
applications. New Family Search has defined an interface standard that any 
program can use, but it is specific to getting data into and out of NFS. 
Ancestry continues to work on their proprietary interface uploading and 
downloading between their PC product and online member trees.

Paul



-Original Message-
From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk]
Sent: July-17-11 9:48 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer

Bob,

>From the comparisons which I have seen, you will also find that the FTM
Source Writer equivalent is not GEDCOM compatible either.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

-Original Message-
From: RUNION ROBERT
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 2:11 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Source Writer

I want to pass on an issue for those who might be thinking of moving to
another program.  I am attempting  to move my Legacy files to FTM for MAC
via GEDCOM and discovered an item folks might want to consider.  In using
the 'Source Writer' in lieu of the 'Basic', to enter my sources, I have
discovered that the move to FTMM considers all Source Writer entries to be
errors.  Basic seemed to transfer OK.  I do so wish that Legacy would come
up with a MAC version - I tire of using the Virtual Machine to Parallels or
Fusion to run Legacy.  I love Legacy, but ..

Bob



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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer

[Ron Ferguson]

Bob,

>From the comparisons which I have seen, you will also find that the FTM
Source Writer equivalent is not GEDCOM compatible either.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

-Original Message-
From: RUNION ROBERT
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 2:11 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Source Writer

I want to pass on an issue for those who might be thinking of moving to
another program.  I am attempting  to move my Legacy files to FTM for MAC
via GEDCOM and discovered an item folks might want to consider.  In using
the 'Source Writer' in lieu of the 'Basic', to enter my sources, I have
discovered that the move to FTMM considers all Source Writer entries to be
errors.  Basic seemed to transfer OK.  I do so wish that Legacy would come
up with a MAC version - I tire of using the Virtual Machine to Parallels or
Fusion to run Legacy.  I love Legacy, but ..

Bob



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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer

[Mike Fry]

On 2011/07/17 15:11, RUNION ROBERT wrote:

> I want to pass on an issue for those who might be thinking of moving to
> another program.  I am attempting  to move my Legacy files to FTM for MAC via
> GEDCOM and discovered an item folks might want to consider.  In using the
> 'Source Writer' in lieu of the 'Basic', to enter my sources, I have
> discovered that the move to FTMM considers all Source Writer entries to be
> errors.  Basic seemed to transfer OK.  I do so wish that Legacy would come up
> with a MAC version - I tire of using the Virtual Machine to Parallels or
> Fusion to run Legacy.  I love Legacy, but ..

This has been known ever since Source Writer made its debut.

--
Regards,
Mike Fry
Johannesburg


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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer

[Brian/Support]

I just tested this in the latest GR version 7.5.0.89. It was announced
when that version was released that the label colours for child status
and relationship to parents were supposed to work when sources were
assigned. When I access the screen from the children list by right
clicking on a child the label colours do work. If I access the screen
from the parents icon however the label colours do not work.

We have a test version that is issued only to our beta testers. The
access from the parents icon works in that version so I suggest you wait
til the next GR version is released. I have submitted a problem report
on this to remind me to test it when the next GR version is released.

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On 07/07/2011 12:39 PM, Dave Keeney wrote:
> I have my "Contents" color changed but I remember Geoff saying that
> the programmers had also changed this to include the "Relationship to
> Father/Mother" fields.
> When he sourced the relationships the colors changed to indicate this.
> Mine still don't.
> Is this a feature "coming soon" or maybe I missed the configuration
> option for the "relationships" (although I would assume it would be
> the same as the rest of the "Contents".


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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer

[Sherry/Support]

Oh - so you're *not* in the Children's Settings window (where I always
go to set the Status) but the Parents window.  Big difference.

You might want to submit this on a problem report form so it can be
logged in our system and be very clear that you're on the Parents
of... window and not the Children's Settings window.



Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
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On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 10:37 AM, Dave Keeney  wrote:
> Here's how I get there.
> Main Family View windows for someone. (Don't bring up the Indivudal's
> Information screen)
> From the icons below select the "Parent(s)" icon.
> For me it's the 8th one from the left (Spouse, List of Brothers and
> Sisters, Notes, Picture Gallery, Events, Assigned Sources, AKAs,
> Parents ...) but I suppose you could have different ones but I think
> this is the default confi.
>
> On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Sherry/Support
>  wrote:
>> I just do a right click on a child and select Children's Settings.
>> That takes you to the same window.  I don't quite understand what
>> you're describing that Geoff did.
>>
>> At first I thought I could duplicate this through the Edit menu
>> access, but I had the wrong child highlighted   When I went to the
>> child with the child status and parent/child relationships, the red
>> highlights on the field names showed up.
>>
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> Sherry
>> Technical Support
>> Legacy Family Tree
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 10:18 AM, Dave Keeney  wrote:
>>> Yes I do. Installed Version: 7.5.0.89
>>>
>>> I just checked and I see it also if I go through the "Edit-Children 
>>> Settings".
>>>
>>> Jeff went from the main family view, and then the Parents Icon which
>>> takes you to a "Relationships" screen also. I'm pretty sure that's
>>> where Jeff went because I normally would go through the Children
>>> Settings and I remember thinking "it's a lot easier to use the Parents
>>> icon".
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 9:47 AM, Sherry/Support
>>>  wrote:
 Do you have 7.5.0.89?

 I'm seeing those fields colored on the Children's Settings window when
 there are sources for the Child Status, Relationship to Father and
 Relationship to Mother.


 Sincerely,
 Sherry
 Technical Support
 Legacy Family Tree



 On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 9:39 AM, Dave Keeney  wrote:
> I have my "Contents" color changed but I remember Geoff saying that
> the programmers had also changed this to include the "Relationship to
> Father/Mother" fields.
> When he sourced the relationships the colors changed to indicate this.
> Mine still don't.
> Is this a feature "coming soon" or maybe I missed the configuration
> option for the "relationships" (although I would assume it would be
> the same as the rest of the "Contents".


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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer

[Dave Keeney]

Here's how I get there.
Main Family View windows for someone. (Don't bring up the Indivudal's
Information screen)
>From the icons below select the "Parent(s)" icon.
For me it's the 8th one from the left (Spouse, List of Brothers and
Sisters, Notes, Picture Gallery, Events, Assigned Sources, AKAs,
Parents ...) but I suppose you could have different ones but I think
this is the default confi.

On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Sherry/Support
 wrote:
> I just do a right click on a child and select Children's Settings.
> That takes you to the same window.  I don't quite understand what
> you're describing that Geoff did.
>
> At first I thought I could duplicate this through the Edit menu
> access, but I had the wrong child highlighted   When I went to the
> child with the child status and parent/child relationships, the red
> highlights on the field names showed up.
>
>
> Sincerely,
> Sherry
> Technical Support
> Legacy Family Tree
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 10:18 AM, Dave Keeney  wrote:
>> Yes I do. Installed Version: 7.5.0.89
>>
>> I just checked and I see it also if I go through the "Edit-Children 
>> Settings".
>>
>> Jeff went from the main family view, and then the Parents Icon which
>> takes you to a "Relationships" screen also. I'm pretty sure that's
>> where Jeff went because I normally would go through the Children
>> Settings and I remember thinking "it's a lot easier to use the Parents
>> icon".
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 9:47 AM, Sherry/Support
>>  wrote:
>>> Do you have 7.5.0.89?
>>>
>>> I'm seeing those fields colored on the Children's Settings window when
>>> there are sources for the Child Status, Relationship to Father and
>>> Relationship to Mother.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>> Sherry
>>> Technical Support
>>> Legacy Family Tree
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 9:39 AM, Dave Keeney  wrote:
 I have my "Contents" color changed but I remember Geoff saying that
 the programmers had also changed this to include the "Relationship to
 Father/Mother" fields.
 When he sourced the relationships the colors changed to indicate this.
 Mine still don't.
 Is this a feature "coming soon" or maybe I missed the configuration
 option for the "relationships" (although I would assume it would be
 the same as the rest of the "Contents".
>
>


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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer

[Sherry/Support]

I just do a right click on a child and select Children's Settings.
That takes you to the same window.  I don't quite understand what
you're describing that Geoff did.

At first I thought I could duplicate this through the Edit menu
access, but I had the wrong child highlighted   When I went to the
child with the child status and parent/child relationships, the red
highlights on the field names showed up.


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree



On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 10:18 AM, Dave Keeney  wrote:
> Yes I do. Installed Version: 7.5.0.89
>
> I just checked and I see it also if I go through the "Edit-Children Settings".
>
> Jeff went from the main family view, and then the Parents Icon which
> takes you to a "Relationships" screen also. I'm pretty sure that's
> where Jeff went because I normally would go through the Children
> Settings and I remember thinking "it's a lot easier to use the Parents
> icon".
>
> On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 9:47 AM, Sherry/Support
>  wrote:
>> Do you have 7.5.0.89?
>>
>> I'm seeing those fields colored on the Children's Settings window when
>> there are sources for the Child Status, Relationship to Father and
>> Relationship to Mother.
>>
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> Sherry
>> Technical Support
>> Legacy Family Tree
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 9:39 AM, Dave Keeney  wrote:
>>> I have my "Contents" color changed but I remember Geoff saying that
>>> the programmers had also changed this to include the "Relationship to
>>> Father/Mother" fields.
>>> When he sourced the relationships the colors changed to indicate this.
>>> Mine still don't.
>>> Is this a feature "coming soon" or maybe I missed the configuration
>>> option for the "relationships" (although I would assume it would be
>>> the same as the rest of the "Contents".


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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer

[Dave Keeney]

Yes I do. Installed Version: 7.5.0.89

I just checked and I see it also if I go through the "Edit-Children Settings".

Jeff went from the main family view, and then the Parents Icon which
takes you to a "Relationships" screen also. I'm pretty sure that's
where Jeff went because I normally would go through the Children
Settings and I remember thinking "it's a lot easier to use the Parents
icon".

On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 9:47 AM, Sherry/Support
 wrote:
> Do you have 7.5.0.89?
>
> I'm seeing those fields colored on the Children's Settings window when
> there are sources for the Child Status, Relationship to Father and
> Relationship to Mother.
>
>
> Sincerely,
> Sherry
> Technical Support
> Legacy Family Tree
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 9:39 AM, Dave Keeney  wrote:
>> I have my "Contents" color changed but I remember Geoff saying that
>> the programmers had also changed this to include the "Relationship to
>> Father/Mother" fields.
>> When he sourced the relationships the colors changed to indicate this.
>> Mine still don't.
>> Is this a feature "coming soon" or maybe I missed the configuration
>> option for the "relationships" (although I would assume it would be
>> the same as the rest of the "Contents".
>>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer

[Sherry/Support]

Do you have 7.5.0.89?

I'm seeing those fields colored on the Children's Settings window when
there are sources for the Child Status, Relationship to Father and
Relationship to Mother.


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
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On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 9:39 AM, Dave Keeney  wrote:
> I have my "Contents" color changed but I remember Geoff saying that
> the programmers had also changed this to include the "Relationship to
> Father/Mother" fields.
> When he sourced the relationships the colors changed to indicate this.
> Mine still don't.
> Is this a feature "coming soon" or maybe I missed the configuration
> option for the "relationships" (although I would assume it would be
> the same as the rest of the "Contents".
>


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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer

[Dave Keeney]

I have my "Contents" color changed but I remember Geoff saying that
the programmers had also changed this to include the "Relationship to
Father/Mother" fields.
When he sourced the relationships the colors changed to indicate this.
Mine still don't.
Is this a feature "coming soon" or maybe I missed the configuration
option for the "relationships" (although I would assume it would be
the same as the rest of the "Contents".

On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 6:23 AM,   wrote:
> It wasn't the obituary one so it had to have been the entering a marriage
> record or entering a death certificate.  I just don't remember exactly how I
> did it though.  It is working just fine.  The label is black until I add a
> source and then it goes red.
>
> michele
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Colin Liddell
> Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 8:27 AM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer
>
> Michele, can you remember in which Webinar Geoff explained how to change it
> and were the instructions , Click on Options and then Customize, then
> Colours, then Click here to change User Interface Colours then in the centre
> of the window click on Text and then Contents and choose a colour?
> This is what I did and I just want to confirm that I have it right.
>
> Colin


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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer

[cranberryfrog]

It wasn't the obituary one so it had to have been the entering a marriage
record or entering a death certificate.  I just don't remember exactly how I
did it though.  It is working just fine.  The label is black until I add a
source and then it goes red.

michele


-Original Message-
From: Colin Liddell
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 8:27 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer

Michele, can you remember in which Webinar Geoff explained how to change it
and were the instructions , Click on Options and then Customize, then
Colours, then Click here to change User Interface Colours then in the centre
of the window click on Text and then Contents and choose a colour?
This is what I did and I just want to confirm that I have it right.

Colin



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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer

[my genealogy email]

You only need to change the "Contents" box to change the color of the label
to change to if there is a source attached. The "Text" will change the color
of all the text.
Russ

-Original Message-
From: Colin Liddell
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 8:27 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer

Michele, can you remember in which Webinar Geoff explained how to change it
and were the instructions , Click on Options and then Customize, then
Colours, then Click here to change User Interface Colours then in the centre
of the window click on Text and then Contents and choose a colour?
This is what I did and I just want to confirm that I have it right.

Colin



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From: 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 8:40 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer


> Same here.  I changed mine when Geoff explained how on the Webinar.  I
> have
> had no problems with it.
>
> michele
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jan Roberts
> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 11:03 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Source Writer
>
> I just followed the same directions, and mine appears to be working
> consistently.
>
> Cheers
> Jan
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer

[Colin Liddell]

Michele, can you remember in which Webinar Geoff explained how to change it
and were the instructions , Click on Options and then Customize, then
Colours, then Click here to change User Interface Colours then in the centre
of the window click on Text and then Contents and choose a colour?
This is what I did and I just want to confirm that I have it right.

Colin



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From: 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 8:40 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer


> Same here.  I changed mine when Geoff explained how on the Webinar.  I
> have
> had no problems with it.
>
> michele
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jan Roberts
> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 11:03 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Source Writer
>
> I just followed the same directions, and mine appears to be working
> consistently.
>
> Cheers
> Jan
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer

[cranberryfrog]

Same here.  I changed mine when Geoff explained how on the Webinar.  I have
had no problems with it.

michele

-Original Message-
From: Jan Roberts
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 11:03 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Source Writer

I just followed the same directions, and mine appears to be working
consistently.

Cheers
Jan



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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer

[Colin Liddell]

Thanks Kevin, I have rebooted a few times but have not done a file
maintenance, I will try that and see what happens.

Colin.


- Original Message -
From: "Kevin Long" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 1:13 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Source Writer


> As always, before struggling with anything that seems inconsistent too
> long, run a backup, then the file maintenance.  Rebooting is also a good
> idea.  It is amazing how many pointers get reset properly with a simple
> reboot.  Good luck.
>
> Kevin Long
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Colin Liddell [mailto:cap...@optusnet.com.au]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 7:36 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer
>
> Russ,
>
> I was watching Geoff Rasmussen on the webinars and after he had entered a
> source, he commented or rather pointed out that the colour of the label ie
> Birth, Death or Baptism changed colour and this showed you that there was
> a source for that event. This was when he was in the Individual
> Information page, and he had just put in a source for the birth of this
> person. He had the colour set to red for the change and when you looked at
> the other events, Baptism, Death etc where they did not  have a source,
> the print on those labels were still black.
> After I had changed the colour as Wendy suggested, I then went in and
> looked at some of my entries and found that the colours had changed on
> some and not on others, I also found that the colour had changed on
> entries that did not have a source, there was no consistancy in any of it.
>
> I hope I have explained myself OK about what I am trying to do.
>
> Colin.
>
> --
> - Original Message -----
> From: "my genealogy email" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 7:49 AM
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer
>
>
>> Colin,
>> What are you trying to accomplish? The colors only appear on the
>> individual
>> edit screen.
>> Russ
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Colin Liddell
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 6:19 AM
>> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer
>>
>> Thank you Wendy, I have done as you suggested but I have not achieved
>> what
>> I
>> was aiming for. I went and checked  and found that the colour has changed
>> on
>> some and not on others, there  is no consistancy.
>> Back to the drawing board.
>>
>> Colin.
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Wendy Howard" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 3:43 PM
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer
>>
>>
>>> Hi Colin,
>>>
>>>> when ... you have entered a source ... the colour of the Tag/Label ...
>>>> changes colour to show that there is a source for that event. I have
>>>> looked in Options, Customize, Colours and cannot determine how do this.
>>>
>>> It's not obvious which field you need to set that at when you first look
>>> at it!  ;-)
>>>
>>> Options > Customise > Colours > Click here to change the user interface
>>> colours > Text Colours: Contents
>>>
>>> Hope this helps.  :-)
>>>
>>> Wendy
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer

[Colin Liddell]

Hmmm...I wonder why.

Colin.

- Original Message -
From: "Jan Roberts" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 1:03 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Source Writer


>I just followed the same directions, and mine appears to be working
>consistently.
>
> Cheers
> Jan
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Colin Liddell [mailto:cap...@optusnet.com.au]
> Sent: Thursday, 7 July 2011 12:36
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer
>
> Russ,
>
> I was watching Geoff Rasmussen on the webinars and after he had entered a
> source, he commented or rather pointed out that the colour of the label ie
> Birth, Death or Baptism changed colour and this showed you that there was
> a
> source for that event. This was when he was in the Individual Information
> page, and he had just put in a source for the birth of this person. He had
> the colour set to red for the change and when you looked at the other
> events, Baptism, Death etc where they did not  have a source, the print on
> those labels were still black.
> After I had changed the colour as Wendy suggested, I then went in and
> looked
> at some of my entries and found that the colours had changed on some and
> not
> on others, I also found that the colour had changed on entries that did
> not
> have a source, there was no consistancy in any of it.
>
> I hope I have explained myself OK about what I am trying to do.
>
> Colin.
>
> --
> - Original Message -
> From: "my genealogy email" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 7:49 AM
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer
>
>
>> Colin,
>> What are you trying to accomplish? The colors only appear on the
>> individual
>> edit screen.
>> Russ
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Colin Liddell
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 6:19 AM
>> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer
>>
>> Thank you Wendy, I have done as you suggested but I have not achieved
>> what
>> I
>> was aiming for. I went and checked  and found that the colour has changed
>> on
>> some and not on others, there  is no consistancy.
>> Back to the drawing board.
>>
>> Colin.
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Wendy Howard" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 3:43 PM
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer
>>
>>
>>> Hi Colin,
>>>
>>>> when ... you have entered a source ... the colour of the Tag/Label ...
>>>> changes colour to show that there is a source for that event. I have
>>>> looked in Options, Customize, Colours and cannot determine how do this.
>>>
>>> It's not obvious which field you need to set that at when you first look
>>> at it!  ;-)
>>>
>>> Options > Customise > Colours > Click here to change the user interface
>>> colours > Text Colours: Contents
>>>
>>> Hope this helps.  :-)
>>>
>>> Wendy
>
>
>
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RE: [LegacyUG] Source Writer

[Kevin Long]

As always, before struggling with anything that seems inconsistent too long, 
run a backup, then the file maintenance.  Rebooting is also a good idea.  It is 
amazing how many pointers get reset properly with a simple reboot.  Good luck.

Kevin Long

-Original Message-
From: Colin Liddell [mailto:cap...@optusnet.com.au]
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 7:36 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer

Russ,

I was watching Geoff Rasmussen on the webinars and after he had entered a 
source, he commented or rather pointed out that the colour of the label ie 
Birth, Death or Baptism changed colour and this showed you that there was a 
source for that event. This was when he was in the Individual Information page, 
and he had just put in a source for the birth of this person. He had the colour 
set to red for the change and when you looked at the other events, Baptism, 
Death etc where they did not  have a source, the print on those labels were 
still black.
After I had changed the colour as Wendy suggested, I then went in and looked at 
some of my entries and found that the colours had changed on some and not on 
others, I also found that the colour had changed on entries that did not have a 
source, there was no consistancy in any of it.

I hope I have explained myself OK about what I am trying to do.

Colin.

--
- Original Message -
From: "my genealogy email" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 7:49 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer


> Colin,
> What are you trying to accomplish? The colors only appear on the
> individual
> edit screen.
> Russ
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Colin Liddell
> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 6:19 AM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer
>
> Thank you Wendy, I have done as you suggested but I have not achieved what
> I
> was aiming for. I went and checked  and found that the colour has changed
> on
> some and not on others, there  is no consistancy.
> Back to the drawing board.
>
> Colin.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Wendy Howard" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 3:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer
>
>
>> Hi Colin,
>>
>>> when ... you have entered a source ... the colour of the Tag/Label ...
>>> changes colour to show that there is a source for that event. I have
>>> looked in Options, Customize, Colours and cannot determine how do this.
>>
>> It's not obvious which field you need to set that at when you first look
>> at it!  ;-)
>>
>> Options > Customise > Colours > Click here to change the user interface
>> colours > Text Colours: Contents
>>
>> Hope this helps.  :-)
>>
>> Wendy
>>
>>
>
>
>
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RE: [LegacyUG] Source Writer

[Jan Roberts]

I just followed the same directions, and mine appears to be working 
consistently.

Cheers
Jan

-Original Message-
From: Colin Liddell [mailto:cap...@optusnet.com.au]
Sent: Thursday, 7 July 2011 12:36
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer

Russ,

I was watching Geoff Rasmussen on the webinars and after he had entered a
source, he commented or rather pointed out that the colour of the label ie
Birth, Death or Baptism changed colour and this showed you that there was a
source for that event. This was when he was in the Individual Information
page, and he had just put in a source for the birth of this person. He had
the colour set to red for the change and when you looked at the other
events, Baptism, Death etc where they did not  have a source, the print on
those labels were still black.
After I had changed the colour as Wendy suggested, I then went in and looked
at some of my entries and found that the colours had changed on some and not
on others, I also found that the colour had changed on entries that did not
have a source, there was no consistancy in any of it.

I hope I have explained myself OK about what I am trying to do.

Colin.

--
- Original Message -
From: "my genealogy email" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 7:49 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer


> Colin,
> What are you trying to accomplish? The colors only appear on the
> individual
> edit screen.
> Russ
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Colin Liddell
> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 6:19 AM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer
>
> Thank you Wendy, I have done as you suggested but I have not achieved what
> I
> was aiming for. I went and checked  and found that the colour has changed
> on
> some and not on others, there  is no consistancy.
> Back to the drawing board.
>
> Colin.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Wendy Howard" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 3:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer
>
>
>> Hi Colin,
>>
>>> when ... you have entered a source ... the colour of the Tag/Label ...
>>> changes colour to show that there is a source for that event. I have
>>> looked in Options, Customize, Colours and cannot determine how do this.
>>
>> It's not obvious which field you need to set that at when you first look
>> at it!  ;-)
>>
>> Options > Customise > Colours > Click here to change the user interface
>> colours > Text Colours: Contents
>>
>> Hope this helps.  :-)
>>
>> Wendy




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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer

[Colin Liddell]

Russ,

I was watching Geoff Rasmussen on the webinars and after he had entered a
source, he commented or rather pointed out that the colour of the label ie
Birth, Death or Baptism changed colour and this showed you that there was a
source for that event. This was when he was in the Individual Information
page, and he had just put in a source for the birth of this person. He had
the colour set to red for the change and when you looked at the other
events, Baptism, Death etc where they did not  have a source, the print on
those labels were still black.
After I had changed the colour as Wendy suggested, I then went in and looked
at some of my entries and found that the colours had changed on some and not
on others, I also found that the colour had changed on entries that did not
have a source, there was no consistancy in any of it.

I hope I have explained myself OK about what I am trying to do.

Colin.

--
- Original Message -
From: "my genealogy email" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 7:49 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer


> Colin,
> What are you trying to accomplish? The colors only appear on the
> individual
> edit screen.
> Russ
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Colin Liddell
> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 6:19 AM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer
>
> Thank you Wendy, I have done as you suggested but I have not achieved what
> I
> was aiming for. I went and checked  and found that the colour has changed
> on
> some and not on others, there  is no consistancy.
> Back to the drawing board.
>
> Colin.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Wendy Howard" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 3:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer
>
>
>> Hi Colin,
>>
>>> when ... you have entered a source ... the colour of the Tag/Label ...
>>> changes colour to show that there is a source for that event. I have
>>> looked in Options, Customize, Colours and cannot determine how do this.
>>
>> It's not obvious which field you need to set that at when you first look
>> at it!  ;-)
>>
>> Options > Customise > Colours > Click here to change the user interface
>> colours > Text Colours: Contents
>>
>> Hope this helps.  :-)
>>
>> Wendy
>>
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer

[my genealogy email]

Colin,
What are you trying to accomplish? The colors only appear on the individual
edit screen.
Russ

-Original Message-
From: Colin Liddell
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 6:19 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer

Thank you Wendy, I have done as you suggested but I have not achieved what I
was aiming for. I went and checked  and found that the colour has changed on
some and not on others, there  is no consistancy.
Back to the drawing board.

Colin.

- Original Message -
From: "Wendy Howard" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 3:43 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer


> Hi Colin,
>
>> when ... you have entered a source ... the colour of the Tag/Label ...
>> changes colour to show that there is a source for that event. I have
>> looked in Options, Customize, Colours and cannot determine how do this.
>
> It's not obvious which field you need to set that at when you first look
> at it!  ;-)
>
> Options > Customise > Colours > Click here to change the user interface
> colours > Text Colours: Contents
>
> Hope this helps.  :-)
>
> Wendy
>
>



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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer

[Colin Liddell]

Thank you Wendy, I have done as you suggested but I have not achieved what I
was aiming for. I went and checked  and found that the colour has changed on
some and not on others, there  is no consistancy.
Back to the drawing board.

Colin.

- Original Message -
From: "Wendy Howard" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 3:43 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer


> Hi Colin,
>
>> when ... you have entered a source ... the colour of the Tag/Label ...
>> changes colour to show that there is a source for that event. I have
>> looked in Options, Customize, Colours and cannot determine how do this.
>
> It's not obvious which field you need to set that at when you first look
> at it!  ;-)
>
> Options > Customise > Colours > Click here to change the user interface
> colours > Text Colours: Contents
>
> Hope this helps.  :-)
>
> Wendy
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer

[Colin Liddell]

And I thought it was only me.{;-))


- Original Message -
From: "Gene Hutson" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 4:11 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer


> Changing color schemes and themes and customizing colors used to be a lot
> easier, now it's akin to checking for mines with a hammer...
>
> Let's try this... 'BOOSH' whoops, that wasn't right. well let's try
> this...
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Wendy Howard
> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 12:43 AM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer
>
> Hi Colin,
>
>> when ... you have entered a source ... the colour of the Tag/Label ...
>> changes colour to show that there is a source for that event. I have
>> looked in Options, Customize, Colours and cannot determine how do this.
>
> It's not obvious which field you need to set that at when you first look
> at it!  ;-)
>
> Options > Customise > Colours > Click here to change the user interface
> colours > Text Colours: Contents
>
> Hope this helps.  :-)
>
> Wendy
>
>
>
>
>



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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer

[Gene Hutson]

Changing color schemes and themes and customizing colors used to be a lot
easier, now it's akin to checking for mines with a hammer...

Let's try this... 'BOOSH' whoops, that wasn't right. well let's try this...





-Original Message-
From: Wendy Howard
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 12:43 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer

Hi Colin,

> when ... you have entered a source ... the colour of the Tag/Label ...
> changes colour to show that there is a source for that event. I have
> looked in Options, Customize, Colours and cannot determine how do this.

It's not obvious which field you need to set that at when you first look
at it!  ;-)

Options > Customise > Colours > Click here to change the user interface
colours > Text Colours: Contents

Hope this helps.  :-)

Wendy


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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer

[Wendy Howard]

Hi Colin,

> when ... you have entered a source ... the colour of the Tag/Label ...
> changes colour to show that there is a source for that event. I have
> looked in Options, Customize, Colours and cannot determine how do this.

It's not obvious which field you need to set that at when you first look
at it!  ;-)

Options > Customise > Colours > Click here to change the user interface
colours > Text Colours: Contents

Hope this helps.  :-)

Wendy


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RE: [LegacyUG] Source Writer-- Output Footnote/Endnote Citations

[Margaret DeAcetis]

Kirsten, FYI--the semi-colon punctuation anamoly.
 
I've created a new master source per your suggestion. If I attach only the 
detail comments, the semi-colon makes sense since the comment come directly 
after the output footnote citation.  But if I attach both the detail text and 
comments, two semi-colons show up just as described in my earlier message, and 
the second one is certainly out-of-place.
 
I think I'll send off a note to my tech support person about it. Maybe a 
problem for the programmers to solve.
 
Thanks again, Margaret

 
-- On Tue, 6/28/11, Kirsten Bowman  wrote:


From: Kirsten Bowman 
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Source Writer-- Output Footnote/Endnote Citations
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Date: Tuesday, June 28, 2011, 2:09 PM


Margaret:

The punctuation you mentioned is programmed into the system and can't be 
changed as far as I know.  I suspect that the difference you're seeing in the 
citation output may be due to where you entered the text in creating the 
citation.  If you entered the full text of the record at the Master Source 
level, it will probably show as you describe.  Try a new Master Source from 
scratch following the steps I gave and see if that produces the results you 
want.

Kirsten

-Original Message-
From: Margaret DeAcetis [mailto:med_11...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 10:33 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Source Writer-- Output Footnote/Endnote Citations


Hi all,

This topic is related to recent query re one master source name, in my case, 
civil marriages in New York, Manhattan, NY. Kirsten's comments were very 
helpful.

I am attempting to have consistency among the 3 marriage records I've entered 
thus far.

On my assigned source list for one individual, one marriage record has a neat 
short footnote/endnote citation on the output screen that I'd like to be the 
norm. Text and comments are what I want.

A second  marriage record has a much longer footnote/endnote citation that I'd 
like to cut down. Can anyone tell me where I can get to a screen to select that 
option?

When I go to the name list to edit the individual's source and detail text and 
comments, I see that the output preview for the source edits differs from those 
of the detail edits.

It is with the detail edits that I am getting a strange result, with a 
semi-colon appearing  inexplicably in output previews when I check to add the 
detail text and the detail text to the footnote citations.  I can't see any way 
to edit them out.

Thus, short footnote ends with a period.
Add the detail text edits, a semi-colon replaces the period at the end of the 
footnote.
Add the detail comment edits, another semi-colon appears before the beginning 
of the first sentence at the end of the footnote.

Any suggestions on how to get rid of these semi-colons, especially the second?

Margaret





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RE: [LegacyUG] Source Writer-- Output Footnote/Endnote Citations

[Kirsten Bowman]

Margaret:

The punctuation you mentioned is programmed into the system and can't be 
changed as far as I know.  I suspect that the difference you're seeing in the 
citation output may be due to where you entered the text in creating the 
citation.  If you entered the full text of the record at the Master Source 
level, it will probably show as you describe.  Try a new Master Source from 
scratch following the steps I gave and see if that produces the results you 
want.

Kirsten

-Original Message-
From: Margaret DeAcetis [mailto:med_11...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 10:33 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Source Writer-- Output Footnote/Endnote Citations


Hi all,

This topic is related to recent query re one master source name, in my case, 
civil marriages in New York, Manhattan, NY. Kirsten's comments were very 
helpful.

I am attempting to have consistency among the 3 marriage records I've entered 
thus far.

On my assigned source list for one individual, one marriage record has a neat 
short footnote/endnote citation on the output screen that I'd like to be the 
norm. Text and comments are what I want.

A second  marriage record has a much longer footnote/endnote citation that I'd 
like to cut down. Can anyone tell me where I can get to a screen to select that 
option?

When I go to the name list to edit the individual's source and detail text and 
comments, I see that the output preview for the source edits differs from those 
of the detail edits.

It is with the detail edits that I am getting a strange result, with a 
semi-colon appearing  inexplicably in output previews when I check to add the 
detail text and the detail text to the footnote citations.  I can't see any way 
to edit them out.

Thus, short footnote ends with a period.
Add the detail text edits, a semi-colon replaces the period at the end of the 
footnote.
Add the detail comment edits, another semi-colon appears before the beginning 
of the first sentence at the end of the footnote.

Any suggestions on how to get rid of these semi-colons, especially the second?

Margaret





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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer

[cranberryfrog]

I don't use all the blanks either (totally depends).  I do not like using
the override but I have on occasion (I had to use it for the Mortality
Schedule).

michele


-Original Message-
From: Connie Sheets
Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2011 11:30 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer

I'm afraid I have to disagree with you on one point, Michele.  I have far
more control over how my sources look with SourceWriter than I do with
Basic, but then I don't always fill in every blank, nor do I always use each
blank for its intended purpose, and on occasion I use the source override
feature.

Connie

--- On Sun, 6/19/11, cranberryf...@cobridge.tv

Basic and Sourcewriter are two different ways of adding sources.  Each
has pros and cons.  The pro of Basic is that you have completely control
over how you want your sources to look.  The pro to Sourcewriter is that
since it is fill in the blank, you can achieve consistency in how your
sources are entered more easily than with Basic.  When you add a source you
can pick basic style or a sourcewriter style.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer

[Connie Sheets]

I'm afraid I have to disagree with you on one point, Michele.  I have far more 
control over how my sources look with SourceWriter than I do with Basic, but 
then I don't always fill in every blank, nor do I always use each blank for its 
intended purpose, and on occasion I use the source override feature.

Connie

--- On Sun, 6/19/11, cranberryf...@cobridge.tv

Basic and Sourcewriter are two different ways of adding sources.  Each
has pros and cons.  The pro of Basic is that you have completely control
over how you want your sources to look.  The pro to Sourcewriter is that
since it is fill in the blank, you can achieve consistency in how your sources 
are entered more easily than with Basic.  When you add a source you can pick 
basic style or a sourcewriter style.
 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer ... Correcting Census Records

[Richard Van Wasshnova]

Are all your "1890 Census" Sources actually 1900 or so you have some
that are truly 1890? It would be fairly easy to convert all 1890 to
1900.

--
Richard Van Wasshnova


On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 7:03 PM,   wrote:
> Source Writer ...
> I'm working with a source which was mistakenly associated with the 1890
> Census.  It should have been associated with the 1900 Census.  How do I make
> changes in the gray boxes?  I really don't want to have to re-enter 40 or 50
> people. :(:
>
> Alysse Suzanne Rasmussen, MA
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RE: [LegacyUG] Source Writer source to Basic using MS Access

[Jennifer Crockett]

Thank you, Richard.

Regards,

Jennifer
http://colston-wenck.com

-Original Message-
From: Richard Van Wasshnova [mailto:rfvanwasshn...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 24 November 2010 6:34 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer source to Basic using MS Access

Jennifer,

Nothing to it.

First, of course, Backup. Tag the Source Writer Source that you want
converted to Basic and untag all others.

Run the following select query:

SELECT tblSR.IDSR, tblSR.SrcName, tblSR.Contents, tblSR.UseStandard,
tblSR.TemplateID, tblSR.SrcTag, tblSX.IDIME, tblSX.Type,
tblSX.SrcDetail, tblSX.SrcDetText, tblSX.SrcDetNote, tblSX.Content
FROM tblSR INNER JOIN tblSX ON tblSR.IDSR = tblSX.IDSR
WHERE (((tblSR.SrcTag)=1));

This will show you all the citations using that Master Source.
Under UseStandard, change the first record from zero (0) to one (1).
The rest of them will change too when you move cursor down to next
record.
Under TemplateID, change the number there to zero (0). The rest of
them will change too when you move cursor down to next record.

If you keep track of the TemplateID you can even change it back with
no loss of data.
The query could be simpler or even more automated but thought you
might want to see all citations.

Good luck.

--
Richard Van Wasshnova


On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 5:00 AM, Jennifer Crockett
 wrote:
> Using MS Access, can anyone tell me how to convert a Source Writer source to
> a Basic source and then merge the two so that the Source Detail is
> preserved?
>
> Regards,
>
> Jennifer
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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer source to Basic using MS Access

[Jenny M Benson]

On 24/11/2010 16:38, Richard Van Wasshnova wrote:
> Jenny,
>
> I believe you are thinking of Basic to SR. This was to convert SR back
> to basic. I don't think anything is lost going this way, just
> condensed.

Whoops!  Sorry.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer source to Basic using MS Access

[Richard Van Wasshnova]

Jenny,

I believe you are thinking of Basic to SR. This was to convert SR back
to basic. I don't think anything is lost going this way, just
condensed.

--
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On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 1:50 AM, Jenny M Benson  wrote:
>
>> SELECT tblSR.IDSR, tblSR.SrcName, tblSR.Contents, tblSR.UseStandard,
>> tblSR.TemplateID, tblSR.SrcTag, tblSX.IDIME, tblSX.Type,
>> tblSX.SrcDetail, tblSX.SrcDetText, tblSX.SrcDetNote, tblSX.Content
>> FROM tblSR INNER JOIN tblSX ON tblSR.IDSR = tblSX.IDSR
>> WHERE (((tblSR.SrcTag)=1));
>>
>> This will show you all the citations using that Master Source.
>> Under UseStandard, change the first record from zero (0) to one (1).
>> The rest of them will change too when you move cursor down to next
>> record.
>> Under TemplateID, change the number there to zero (0). The rest of
>> them will change too when you move cursor down to next record.
>
> I use this method to convert all my Basic Sources, but BE WARNED!  Not
> all the Source Detail is retained - or perhaps it is more accurate to
> say that not all Source Detail fields will be populated so it is
> necessary to visit each citation to add any missing information.
>
> Still a whole heap better than doing the entire operation manually, though!
>
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>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer source to Basic using MS Access

[Cheryl Rothwell]

This makes it clearer why Access and Open Office were mentioned. Thanks.

On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 3:50 AM, Jenny M Benson  wrote:
>
>> SELECT tblSR.IDSR, tblSR.SrcName, tblSR.Contents, tblSR.UseStandard,
>> tblSR.TemplateID, tblSR.SrcTag, tblSX.IDIME, tblSX.Type,
>> tblSX.SrcDetail, tblSX.SrcDetText, tblSX.SrcDetNote, tblSX.Content
>> FROM tblSR INNER JOIN tblSX ON tblSR.IDSR = tblSX.IDSR
>> WHERE (((tblSR.SrcTag)=1));
>>
>> This will show you all the citations using that Master Source.
>> Under UseStandard, change the first record from zero (0) to one (1).
>> The rest of them will change too when you move cursor down to next
>> record.
>> Under TemplateID, change the number there to zero (0). The rest of
>> them will change too when you move cursor down to next record.
>
> I use this method to convert all my Basic Sources, but BE WARNED!  Not
> all the Source Detail is retained - or perhaps it is more accurate to
> say that not all Source Detail fields will be populated so it is
> necessary to visit each citation to add any missing information.
>
> Still a whole heap better than doing the entire operation manually, though!
>
> --
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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer source to Basic using MS Access

[Jenny M Benson]

> SELECT tblSR.IDSR, tblSR.SrcName, tblSR.Contents, tblSR.UseStandard,
> tblSR.TemplateID, tblSR.SrcTag, tblSX.IDIME, tblSX.Type,
> tblSX.SrcDetail, tblSX.SrcDetText, tblSX.SrcDetNote, tblSX.Content
> FROM tblSR INNER JOIN tblSX ON tblSR.IDSR = tblSX.IDSR
> WHERE (((tblSR.SrcTag)=1));
>
> This will show you all the citations using that Master Source.
> Under UseStandard, change the first record from zero (0) to one (1).
> The rest of them will change too when you move cursor down to next
> record.
> Under TemplateID, change the number there to zero (0). The rest of
> them will change too when you move cursor down to next record.

I use this method to convert all my Basic Sources, but BE WARNED!  Not
all the Source Detail is retained - or perhaps it is more accurate to
say that not all Source Detail fields will be populated so it is
necessary to visit each citation to add any missing information.

Still a whole heap better than doing the entire operation manually, though!

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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer source to Basic using MS Access

[Richard Van Wasshnova]

Jennifer,

Nothing to it.

First, of course, Backup. Tag the Source Writer Source that you want
converted to Basic and untag all others.

Run the following select query:

SELECT tblSR.IDSR, tblSR.SrcName, tblSR.Contents, tblSR.UseStandard,
tblSR.TemplateID, tblSR.SrcTag, tblSX.IDIME, tblSX.Type,
tblSX.SrcDetail, tblSX.SrcDetText, tblSX.SrcDetNote, tblSX.Content
FROM tblSR INNER JOIN tblSX ON tblSR.IDSR = tblSX.IDSR
WHERE (((tblSR.SrcTag)=1));

This will show you all the citations using that Master Source.
Under UseStandard, change the first record from zero (0) to one (1).
The rest of them will change too when you move cursor down to next
record.
Under TemplateID, change the number there to zero (0). The rest of
them will change too when you move cursor down to next record.

If you keep track of the TemplateID you can even change it back with
no loss of data.
The query could be simpler or even more automated but thought you
might want to see all citations.

Good luck.

--
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On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 5:00 AM, Jennifer Crockett
 wrote:
> Using MS Access, can anyone tell me how to convert a Source Writer source to
> a Basic source and then merge the two so that the Source Detail is
> preserved?
>
> Regards,
>
> Jennifer
> http://colston-wenck.com
>



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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer and File ID

[Jenny M Benson]

On 05/11/2010 16:28, sarge1...@cox.net wrote:
> I have tried a few source additions using the 'Source Writer', but I
> have not been able to find a place on it to add a File ID (or what I
> call a detail source number that I use) so that it appears adjacent
> to the Event when viewing the list of events.  The basic allows me to
> enter a detail number and it appears as desired, so where am I going
> wrong?

I am somewhat confused (not an unusual state of affairs!)

I thought at first, when you said "when viewing the list of events" that
you were talking about an Event Report, but when I looked at that I saw
it doesn't include Sources.  So then I thought you must mean a Source
Report with the options checked to "include specific events" and
"include citation detail" but one of the Options for a Source Report is
to include the Source Detail File ID.

So can you explain more precisely where your problem lies, please.
(Unless I'm being really dense and someone else knows exactly what you
mean and can give you a straight answer!)

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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer challenge

[Jenny M Benson]

On 23/09/2010 00:25, BMcL Robinson wrote:
> You don't see which SourceWriter template you are referring to

Sorry, that should have said "You don't say ..."

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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer challenge

[Sherry/Support]

A location should be entered as it was at the time of the event.

The Geo Location Database contains only contemporary locations so if a
location is no longer around, you won't find it in Geo.


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree



On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 7:23 PM, Maureen Lake  wrote:
> I see that the Legacy GeoLocation database is not very helpful, as a search
> turns up "Saint-Michel, ,
> Québec, Canada". If you put "Bellechasse" in the county position, the search
> comes up blank. In fact, counties seem to be totally ignored for Canada.
> Wikipedia says that Bellechasse is a "regional county municipality", so it
> would seem reasonable to create a location as either "Saint-Michel,
> Bellechasse, Québec, Canada" or "Saint-Michel-de-Bellechasse, , Québec,
> Canada". Experiment with how you will want to sort your eventual location
> list, including reverse order.
>
>   Ward
>
> Ward,
>
> This goes to my second question of the day, about location name changes.  The
> Bellechasse county designation no longer exists.  So this adds another layer 
> to
> my question.  Place at the time, or place now?
>
> Maureen



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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer challenge

[Maureen Lake]

I see that the Legacy GeoLocation database is not very helpful, as a search
turns up "Saint-Michel, ,
Québec, Canada". If you put "Bellechasse" in the county position, the search
comes up blank. In fact, counties seem to be totally ignored for Canada.
Wikipedia says that Bellechasse is a "regional county municipality", so it
would seem reasonable to create a location as either "Saint-Michel,
Bellechasse, Québec, Canada" or "Saint-Michel-de-Bellechasse, , Québec,
Canada". Experiment with how you will want to sort your eventual location
list, including reverse order.

  Ward

Ward,

This goes to my second question of the day, about location name changes.  The
Bellechasse county designation no longer exists.  So this adds another layer to
my question.  Place at the time, or place now?

Maureen



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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer challenge

[BMcL Robinson]

I think Jenny has highlighted the point - the places in SourceWriter do not
end up in the Location List - they are "just text". You only need to be
constrained to the Location format when the data is going to end up in the
Location List.

Cheers, Brett
BMcL Robinson, Hamilton 3240, New Zealand

- Original Message -
From: "Jenny M Benson" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 11:05 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer challenge


On 22/09/2010 22:03, Maureen Lake wrote:
> I have run up against a few challenges, but I will set them out in
> separate
> emails so I can keep the subjects straight.  I just recently combined two
> sources into one.  The first was created in the basic style, the second
> with
> Source Writer.  I am now going through and (finally) standardising all
> 2300
> records to the Source Writer template, but I have it a snag, and it's
> going to
> continue.  There aren't enough Location options.  These records are
> Canadian
> church records, which means that I have an extra layer in there.  Quebec
> has
> three St-Michels that I can think of, and without the county included,
> specifying which one is going to be difficult.

You don't see which SourceWriter template you are referring to, but in
fact is doesn't really matter.  Just because a template field is named
"Town", for example, doesn't mean you have to only put the town name in
that field or even that you have to fill that field at all if you don't
want to.  Likewise, if it's named something like "Name of Church" and
the next field is, say, "County" there's no reason why you can't enter
"St Someone's Church, Anytown" in the first field.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer challenge

[Ron Ferguson]

--
From: "Maureen Lake" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 10:03 PM
To: 
Subject: [LegacyUG] Source Writer challenge

> Good afternoon, all,
>
> I have run up against a few challenges, but I will set them out in
> separate
> emails so I can keep the subjects straight.  I just recently combined two
> sources into one.  The first was created in the basic style, the second
> with
> Source Writer.  I am now going through and (finally) standardising all
> 2300
> records to the Source Writer template, but I have it a snag, and it's
> going to
> continue.  There aren't enough Location options.  These records are
> Canadian
> church records, which means that I have an extra layer in there.  Quebec
> has
> three St-Michels that I can think of, and without the county included,
> specifying which one is going to be difficult.
>
> So I'm throwing this problem out for suggestions.  My initial thought was
> to do
> something along the lines of St-Michel [Bellechasse] in the
> city/town/village
> line, but I'm not certain that's the way to go.  Any alteratives?  Once I
> do
> these I really don't want to have to re-do them.  And France will follow
> the
> same pattern, or worse, with between four and six levels.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Maureen
>
>
Maureen,

As others have suggested, you don't need to just put in a box what the name
of the box indicates. Where it has, say, a box for the name of a church, the
name of the road it is on could also be included etc. Just decide for
yourself what feels right for you and use that format.

However, it is not a problem I have since I almost invariably leave all
those boxes empty. In the location field for, say, a Christening Event, I
would include the name of the church and the full address (if I have it),
and I see no point in including the same information in the Source. I know
that this goes completely against the so called 4 field convention, but that
does work for GB anyhow, and, I believe, for much of Canada as well. As has
been said setting the Location Field to read from right to left means that
the locations are easy to look up when needed.

Basically what I am saying is: do what fits, is accurate and makes sense for
others to follow, and above all what is comfortable for yourself.

Ron Ferguson

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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer challenge

[Jenny M Benson]

On 22/09/2010 22:03, Maureen Lake wrote:
> I have run up against a few challenges, but I will set them out in separate
> emails so I can keep the subjects straight.  I just recently combined two
> sources into one.  The first was created in the basic style, the second with
> Source Writer.  I am now going through and (finally) standardising all 2300
> records to the Source Writer template, but I have it a snag, and it's going to
> continue.  There aren't enough Location options.  These records are Canadian
> church records, which means that I have an extra layer in there.  Quebec has
> three St-Michels that I can think of, and without the county included,
> specifying which one is going to be difficult.

You don't see which SourceWriter template you are referring to, but in
fact is doesn't really matter.  Just because a template field is named
"Town", for example, doesn't mean you have to only put the town name in
that field or even that you have to fill that field at all if you don't
want to.  Likewise, if it's named something like "Name of Church" and
the next field is, say, "County" there's no reason why you can't enter
"St Someone's Church, Anytown" in the first field.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer challenge

[Ward Walker]

Maureen,

I'm sure listers are furiously typing at this moment that you need not be a
slave to the suggestion of 4 positions in a location. Many discussions in
the list archives.

As for your example, why not do as the Quebecers do: either "Saint Michel de
Bellechasse" or "Saint-Michel-de-Bellechasse"? I see that the Legacy Geo
Location database is not very helpful, as a search turns up "Saint-Michel, ,
Québec, Canada". If you put "Bellechasse" in the county position, the search
comes up blank. In fact, counties seem to be totally ignored for Canada.
Wikipedia says that Bellechasse is a "regional county municipality", so it
would seem reasonable to create a location as either "Saint-Michel,
Bellechasse, Québec, Canada" or "Saint-Michel-de-Bellechasse, , Québec,
Canada". Experiment with how you will want to sort your eventual location
list, including reverse order.

   Ward

- Original Message -
From: "Maureen Lake" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 5:03 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Source Writer challenge


Good afternoon, all,

I have run up against a few challenges, but I will set them out in separate
emails so I can keep the subjects straight. I just recently combined two
sources into one. The first was created in the basic style, the second with
Source Writer. I am now going through and (finally) standardising all 2300
records to the Source Writer template, but I have it a snag, and it's going
to
continue. There aren't enough Location options. These records are Canadian
church records, which means that I have an extra layer in there. Quebec has
three St-Michels that I can think of, and without the county included,
specifying which one is going to be difficult.

So I'm throwing this problem out for suggestions. My initial thought was to
do
something along the lines of St-Michel [Bellechasse] in the
city/town/village
line, but I'm not certain that's the way to go. Any alteratives? Once I do
these I really don't want to have to re-do them. And France will follow the
same pattern, or worse, with between four and six levels.

Thanks.

Maureen




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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer - Divorce Decree (apology re HTML)

[Connie Sheets]

My apologies to the list.  It seems the default on my e-mail has changed and 
whereas I used to be able to automatically send every message in plain text, 
now if I respond to an HTML message, I have to remember to change to plain 
text.  Ugh!


--- On Wed, 5/19/10, Connie Sheets  wrote:

From: Connie Sheets 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer - Divorce Decree
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Date: Wednesday, May 19, 2010, 2:38 AM

Court records.

--- On Wed, 5/19/10, Dick Davis  wrote:

From: Dick Davis 
Subject: [LegacyUG] Source Writer - Divorce Decree
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Date: Wednesday, May 19, 2010, 1:43 AM

I searched the source writer templates for a divorce decree, but did not find 
one. What is an alternative template that can be used or any other help with a 
divorce decree document?
 
Thanks









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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer - Divorce Decree

[Connie Sheets]

Court records.

--- On Wed, 5/19/10, Dick Davis  wrote:

From: Dick Davis 
Subject: [LegacyUG] Source Writer - Divorce Decree
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Date: Wednesday, May 19, 2010, 1:43 AM

I searched the source writer templates for a divorce decree, but did not find 
one. What is an alternative template that can be used or any other help with a 
divorce decree document?
 
Thanks




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