RE: The Merits (or Not) of Protection

2001-08-15 Thread Watson, Christopher

If "tell sprite" is D8 syntax (and it looks like it is), then I can't rely
on it. I've got to support D7 environments.

-Christopher


-Original Message-
From: Jakob Hede Madsen
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 8/15/01 4:48 PM
Subject: RE:  The Merits (or Not) of Protection

At 15:56 -0700 2001_08_15, Watson, Christopher wrote:

>Can you provide some further detail about how to do this? Can you be
>specific?

Will this get you going?

  tell sprite 1
 tObject = script("protectedContainerClass").new()
 put #tObject, tObject
   end tell

Jakob

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Re: proxyServer()

2001-08-15 Thread g r i m m w e r k s

What happens is when a user requests a webpage, the proxyserver asks for
authentication, and then when it receives it, it sort of wraps any request
from that user with their authentication information.

With shockwave, the authentication works as the browser kind of inserts any
request from the shockwave with the authenticating stuff, so if you can run
your application as a shockwave in a browser webpage, you'll be ok.

I was actually fooling around with the very same thing a while ago, but
never finished it (client decided to not pursue) as we were using a lot of
local media and couldn't do it in a browser. Every information/web request
has a special code, so I started to use the MU xtra to send http request
step by step to allow the application to 'fake' the regular html
authentication stuff.

On 8/15/01 12:48 PM, "Dale Withroder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spewed forth:

> so then the authentication issue is on the proxy server side, or the web
> site side?  (forgive my ignorance of proxy servers)


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blinking I-beam => blinking block

2001-08-15 Thread Slava Paperno

Problem (posted a couple of days ago):
In one of my editable fileds, I simulate the "overwrite" typing mode by 
intercepting keystrokes and replacing the characters that are already in 
the field. (The user is not allowed to insert or delete characters.)

To make this visually clear, I would like to change the default blinking 
I-beam to a blinking rectangle, as most apps do when you use the overwrite 
mode.

Can this be done through Longo?


Solution:
I ended up selecting the character next to the insertion point, and then 
deselecting it every 300 milliseconds--using a timeout object, as Sean 
suggested. Amazinglzy simple, and it imitates a blinking "typeover" cursor 
almost perfectly. Unfortunately, the I-beam cursor is still there, but as 
it is right next to the selection, it's not all that bothersome.


Slava


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RE: Director and CDDB

2001-08-15 Thread Al Hospers

Terry said:

> alternatively you
> can use the
> cool GLU32 Xtra from RavWare

Thanks for the kind plug Terry, but actually the most exceedingly cool
Glu32 Xtra is published by UpdateStage, Inc. 

Cheers,

Al Hospers
Marketing Associate
UpdateStage
alhospersupdatestagecom
http://www.updatestage.com



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Re: Director and CDDB

2001-08-15 Thread Terry R. Schussler

At 4:04 PM +0300 8/15/01, Pekka Buttler wrote:
>A recent (active) discussion thread started me thinking.
>The CDPro Xtra returns a cddb compatible ID code for use with CDDB, but how
>do you really get that information from a cddb?

You could build an Xtra using their SDK or alternatively you can use the
cool GLU32 Xtra from RavWare and drive the GraceNote CDDB2 Shared Library
directly.  You will have to pay nothing (if you are building non-commercial
software) or US$0.06 a user licensing fee for commercial applications.

Regards,
-- 

...---===|  Terry R. Schussler  |===---...
...---===|  Chief Investigator  |===---...

on accessResources
  coolSites = [ \
"http://macromediaSEMINARS.com/";, "http://directorU.com";, \
"http://multiuserU.com";, "http://flash5U.com";, \
"http://dreamweaverU.com";, "http://behaviors.com/"; ]
  gotoNetPage coolSites[random(1, 6)]
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RE: OOP and ancestor access

2001-08-15 Thread Mike Nardell

I would like to join in on this thread; in particular I would like to know
if anyone has thought about using the patterns approach in Director. The
intent of contributors to this thread seems consistent with the work of
Gamma, Helm, Johnson, and Vlissides (affectionally known as the Gang of
Four.) In their book _Design Patterns_  (that can correctly be deemed
seminal) they set out to catalog some of the patterns of object use that
people have been successfully in software development. The patterns that
they cataloged were those that promoted object reuse.

I immediatly liked _Design Patterns_, because of the emphasis on how objects
collaborate. When I first encountered OOP, collaboration was the biggest of
mysteries. The often sited benefit of OOP is code reuse, however it is
pretty hard to craft a object class that really is reusable. And it is very
easy to write Object Oriented code that is as messy or messier than
procedural stuff! 

Since their book was published (1995?) others have written similar books,
and extended the idea. In fact, I first encountered the idea while I was
learning Java. Several authors have take the 23 patterns presented by the
GoF (Gang of Four) and reworked the examples into Java (_Design Patterns_
features example code written in C++ and Smalltalk.)

Along these lines, I have been interested in seeing a collection of patterns
for Lingo OOP. I feel that some (but not all) of the patterns documented in
_Design Patterns_ would be useful to a wide audience of Lingo Programmers.
And I think that there are probably some patterns that are fairly unique to
Lingo. Anyway, I posting this email to reinforce and support the ideas that
have been carried on this thread so far. I guess you could say that the
catalog of patterns is a "documentation pattern" that the OOP programmers in
Lingo could reuse.

Regards,

Michael Nardell
>>>
>   Michael Nardell
>   Software Design and Development
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RE: The Merits (or Not) of Protection

2001-08-15 Thread Jakob Hede Madsen

At 15:56 -0700 2001_08_15, Watson, Christopher wrote:

>Can you provide some further detail about how to do this? Can you be
>specific?

Will this get you going?

  tell sprite 1
 tObject = script("protectedContainerClass").new()
 put #tObject, tObject
   end tell

Jakob

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Re: Digital video control buttons

2001-08-15 Thread mirianam

Hi again
and thank you all for your invaluable help

Thanks I certainly will. I can kind of understand the concept it's just implementing
it in real life situation. but I will follow that idea. Thanks again

John Trentini wrote:

> Sometimes the Video flickers at the start or, even worse, leaves behind a *ghost*
> image of itself when navigating your score; in these cases setting the visibility
> does not help at all.  So, as a normal development technique a lot of developer
> use the *move the sprite* technique.
>
> As the the setting the flag stuff, I have included the *if..then* example, try
> it
> and it should work but you may want to have a look in the help pages for :
> global variables,  and the case statement.
>
> Cheers
>
> JohnT
>
> mirianam wrote:
>
> > Hi John
> > Thanks for your help.
> > The changing sprite position works well for me. It cerainly makes sense to me.
> > Just out of interest what kinds of problems might result for setting visibility
> > on and off?
> >
> > I haven't worked my way through the setting the flag stuff as I still can't get
> > my head around that. Will work on it in nest few days.
> >
> > I'm now trying to work out about timeout and random!!!
> >
> > Again thatnks for your help
>
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RE: how to "halt" when another program is opened?

2001-08-15 Thread Morgan Bonar

Is the projector running on 2000? Ive run across situations where "halt"
doesn't exit the presentation on 2000 machines. Instead, you have to use
"quit". I usually write a simple script like so:

If the runMode contains "Author" then
  halt
else
  quit
end if

This is so that in authoring, it will just stop the presentation, and not
quit out of director.

hth...

Morgan Bonar
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Leif E. Wells
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 3:52 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re:  how to "halt" when another program is opened?

Could it be the "Animate in Background" setting in your projector? I
think that it should be on for the script to continue after the
projector loses the focus.

>That should work; what kind of script are you in when you do this?
>Does the installer open?
>
>Try recompiling all scripts too, just to make sure.
>
>
>At 02:59 PM 8/15/01 -0400, Kelly Fischbach wrote:
>>I'm trying to open another program, and have my projector quit as soon as
I
>>do so. How do I do that?
>>
>>I have:
>>installerFile = the moviePath & "QuickTime:QuickTime Installer"
>>open installerFile
>>halt
>>
>>
>>But the projector keeps going.  What am I doing wrong?
>>
>>thanks!
>
>
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RE: The Merits (or Not) of Protection

2001-08-15 Thread Watson, Christopher

Jakob,

I'm trying to understand and put to use your sage advice regarding LDMs.
I've remade my external cast as a .dir movie file, and have imported it into
the internal cast of another movie as a linked Director movie. I've enabled
scripts on that cast member, but can't seem to access the parent scripts in
that LDM.

Can you provide some further detail about how to do this? Can you be
specific?

Thanks!

-Christopher

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From: Jakob Hede Madsen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 3:22 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re:  The Merits (or Not) of Protection


First of all, I think you might be able to use a LDM (Linked Dir Movie).
It will link to an open .dir file in authoring, while providing 
protection of your code.
It will have to be placed in the score, at least while you 
instantiate, or "extract" the classes.
You could instantiate a containerClass, from the LDM into a 
persistent variable in the stageScope, through the "tell sprite" 
syntax.
Then "forget" the LDM, and access your scripts from the containerObject.
You can instantiate a script directly from a variable, even if the 
source-script-member is no longer available.

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Re: how to "halt" when another program is opened?

2001-08-15 Thread Leif E. Wells

Could it be the "Animate in Background" setting in your projector? I 
think that it should be on for the script to continue after the 
projector loses the focus.

>That should work; what kind of script are you in when you do this? 
>Does the installer open?
>
>Try recompiling all scripts too, just to make sure.
>
>
>At 02:59 PM 8/15/01 -0400, Kelly Fischbach wrote:
>>I'm trying to open another program, and have my projector quit as soon as I
>>do so. How do I do that?
>>
>>I have:
>>installerFile = the moviePath & "QuickTime:QuickTime Installer"
>>open installerFile
>>halt
>>
>>
>>But the projector keeps going.  What am I doing wrong?
>>
>>thanks!
>
>
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Re: how to "halt" when another program is opened?

2001-08-15 Thread Tab Julius


That should work; what kind of script are you in when you do this?  Does 
the installer open?

Try recompiling all scripts too, just to make sure.


At 02:59 PM 8/15/01 -0400, Kelly Fischbach wrote:
>I'm trying to open another program, and have my projector quit as soon as I
>do so. How do I do that?
>
>I have:
>installerFile = the moviePath & "QuickTime:QuickTime Installer"
>open installerFile
>halt
>
>
>But the projector keeps going.  What am I doing wrong?
>
>thanks!


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RE: Lingo-L Digest V1 #2111

2001-08-15 Thread Andrew Dempsey

Hi.  I assume you want to use ASP to query info from a database?
It seems to me that the only reason you would wantto use ASP is to
interface between Director and a database on an NT or win2000 server.


If that is your goal, you can do some great things with asp.
You can pass variables to an asp page using the lingo command
PostNetText, followed by the parameters you want to post.  It is
sent to the page as form variables.  You can then set the page
to write back the results in a list form that director can read.
I just finished a project that uses asp to simultaneously gather
info from an intranet with 27 different "voters", crunch the
numbers in an Access database, while a shockwave applet which is
being broadcast over a video network is constantly polling the
database by sending postnettext commands to an asp page, and
updating the vote results on a graph in real time over the video
network.  Here's some sample code cut and pasted from the project:

LINGO: to send parameters from the shockwave applet

if pdownloadContainer = "start" then

pdownloadContainer=getNetText("http://www.yoursite.com/yourpage.asp";)

  else
if netDone(pdownloadContainer) then

  SessionID = netTextResult(pdownloadContainer)

  if netError(pdownloadContainer) <> "OK" then
member("Question Text").text = "Trying again..."
put "Session ID NetError = " & netError(pdownloadContainer)

pdownloadContainer=getNetText("http://www.yoursite.com/yourpage.asp";)
put "resending"
  else
--put "sessionID - OK"
ppollingmode = "numparticipants"
psessionID=nettextresult(pdownloadcontainer)
pdownloadcontainer=""
pnumparticipants=postnetText("http://www.yoursite.com/
yourpage2.asp",["sessionID":pSessionID])
-- NOTE THE USE OF PARAMETERS HERE
member("Question Text").text = "...retrieving question text..."
  end if
end if
  end if

ASP:
<%
dim DBLOCATION
DBLOCATION=Server.MapPath("..\data\yourdatabase.mdb")

dim MYDB'set as ADODB.Connection
set MYDB = Server.CreateObject("ADODB.Connection")
myDB.connectionString = "Provider=Microsoft.Jet.OLEDB.4.0;"
& "Data Source=" & DBLOCATION
myDB.open

dim myQuery ' as ADODB.Recordset
dim myCMD   ' as ADODB.Command

set myCMD = Server.CreateObject("ADODB.Command")
set myCMD.ActiveConnection = myDB
myCMD.CommandText = "SELECT questionID,questiontext
from questions WHERE sessionID = " & cInt(request.form("sessionID"))
' YOU MAY BE GETTING A RETURN OF 0 BECAUSE LINGO SENDS THE QUERY AS TEXT
(VARTYPE 8
IN VBSCRIPT) BUT YOUR DATABASE IS TRYING TO FIND AN INTEGER FOR A UNIQUE
RECORD
NUMBER.  USE CINT() IN VBSCRIPT AND VALUE() IN LINGO TO TRANSLATE.
set myQuery = myCMD.Execute

do while not myQuery.EOF
response.write myQuery("questionID") & chr(13)
response.write myQuery("questiontext") & chr(13)
myQuery.movenext
Loop

myQuery.Close
myDB.Close

set myQuery = nothing
set myDB = nothing
%>

This asp page will return a list of values separated by RETURN character.
Using text crunching lingo (look in the lingo dictionary in the director
help section under "text") you can chop this up and serve it up as
variables in whatever way you want.

Hope this isn't too long, but i thought the code makes it easier to
explain.  I will be away from my email (gasp) for 10 days starting Friday,
so if you need any more help email befoer then or after.

Best regards,
Andrew

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>
> Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 12:37:54 +0800
> From: "gksoon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject:  Postnettext
>
> hi list
> Is it dir 8.0 can supprot ASP or not
> If i want post the list like test=[1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9] to asp page
> how to do it
> The value i get(using netTextResult(theNetID)) from ASP page support to be
> [5,10,15,20,25,30,35,40,45) but why i get the result like ""
> The ASp page can run when using the dreamweaver but director it can't.
> What happen to this all
> Can someone help me
> Thank


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Re: The Merits (or Not) of Protection

2001-08-15 Thread Jakob Hede Madsen

At 10:59 -0700 2001_08_15, Watson, Christopher wrote:

Hi Watson, these are my answers of the top my hat:

First of all, I think you might be able to use a LDM (Linked Dir Movie).
It will link to an open .dir file in authoring, while providing 
protection of your code.
It will have to be placed in the score, at least while you 
instantiate, or "extract" the classes.
You could instantiate a containerClass, from the LDM into a 
persistent variable in the stageScope, through the "tell sprite" 
syntax.
Then "forget" the LDM, and access your scripts from the containerObject.
You can instantiate a script directly from a variable, even if the 
source-script-member is no longer available.

>1) Is this enough protection? Meaning, is the readable Lingo in a .cxt or
>.cct completely, and forever, inaccessible?

I believe the shocked lib is most thorough in stripping out any sourcecode.

>2) Is the .cxt or .cct file usable as a linkable external cast just as
>easily and reliably as an unprotected .cst file? Are there any technical
>"gotchas" here?

No you can't easily link to a protected lib in the Authoring 
environment, and you would risk blowing the scripts away at recompile 
anyway. You *can* open a protected lib in authoring, if you first 
link to it from a Miaw. This sort of fools Directors security 
mechanism.

>3) How about in authoring mode?

Crap I guess.

>4) Could someone please characterize for me the opinions of the
>"middle-user" community regarding protected casts? Are they generally
>well-received, or frowned upon?

Given the complexity of the DOM XML context, I'd think your 
"middle-user", should at least have external libs in the pocket.

>5) Could someone please characterize for me how a protected external cast
>rates against an Xtra with identical functionality? When used within the
>environs of Shockwave, isn't an externally linked cast easier to deal with
>for the end user than an Xtra which must be downloaded through a secure
>certificate? Or is that a false perception?

As far as you can transparently "install" the castlib without 
intimidating the enduser, it has this advantage over Xtras that 
require obtrusive alerts.
On a performance level, I'd guess that a pure lingo solution looses 
hard against a real Xtra.
This is mostly string operations and they're notoriously slow in 
Lingo, but you must have feel for that by now.
You might get significant performance gains on large datasets, by 
using the textCruncher Xtra, but that defeats...

>6) If the "product" (as an external cast) is just as much a demonstration of
>the capabilities of Lingo to implement an open standard as it is to provide
>functionality for the end-user, are there still strong arguments for
>implementing the functionality as an Xtra?

That would be performance.
But it's an odd question, because then you wouldn't be demonstrating 
Lingo, would you?

Jakob

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how to "halt" when another program is opened?

2001-08-15 Thread Kelly Fischbach

I'm trying to open another program, and have my projector quit as soon as I
do so. How do I do that?

I have:
installerFile = the moviePath & "QuickTime:QuickTime Installer"
open installerFile
halt


But the projector keeps going.  What am I doing wrong?

thanks!


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Re: Digital video control buttons

2001-08-15 Thread John Trentini

Sometimes the Video flickers at the start or, even worse, leaves behind a *ghost*
image of itself when navigating your score; in these cases setting the visibility
does not help at all.  So, as a normal development technique a lot of developer
use the *move the sprite* technique.

As the the setting the flag stuff, I have included the *if..then* example, try
it
and it should work but you may want to have a look in the help pages for :
global variables,  and the case statement.

Cheers

JohnT

mirianam wrote:

> Hi John
> Thanks for your help.
> The changing sprite position works well for me. It cerainly makes sense to me.
> Just out of interest what kinds of problems might result for setting visibility
> on and off?
>
> I haven't worked my way through the setting the flag stuff as I still can't get
> my head around that. Will work on it in nest few days.
>
> I'm now trying to work out about timeout and random!!!
>
> Again thatnks for your help


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Re: Articels, tips for lingo

2001-08-15 Thread Cole Tierney

Here's a good place to start:
http://www.mcli.dist.maricopa.edu/director/

>Hello again,
>I wonder if there any site beside www.director-online.com or
>www.macromedia.com to have tips/article for lingo/director... I'm
>already try www.directoru.com but It seem have to pay..:(   (rather
>expensive for "third" country peoples)
>
>Thanks
>vic

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Re: a training movie save info to drive

2001-08-15 Thread Leah O'Shell


you can use the savepref and getpref functions to record information to a 
text file or .ini file, and reference it later.
if working with cross platform materials, be aware of the difference between 
mac (':")  and pc("\") pathnames.  where to store it?  i sometimes put it in 
the winnt folder on a pc, but that's entirely up to you.

cheers,
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>Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 18:40:35 +0100
>
> >Hi there,
> >I wonder if anyone can help, I am building a training movie which is run
> >from a CD , however I was wondering is there any way that I can have the
> >user make notes while the Movies are playing and later refer to them from
> >within the movie environment. I was thinking of some sort of text file 
>that
> >is saved on the users hard drive and is available for reading and 
>amending
> >whenever the movie is playing. This would be an alternative to the user
> >making hardcopy notes.
> >
> >Cheers if you can help
> >Ron (Newport, Gwent, South Wales)
>
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Re: Digital video control buttons

2001-08-15 Thread Martha Arifin

When you start to have a complex movie, it's harder to track which sprite 
visibility has been turned ON or OFF. Once you set it off, the entire sprite 
span is set to OFF unless you turn it back ON at some point. It's better to 
just move it offstage and bring it back when you need it.

Martha
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Subject: Re:  Digital video control buttons

Thanks John

Yes I wondered if there would be any problems with setting visibility. So 
far it
works fine on my machine but haven't tested on others. I'll check out your
suggestions if you think that that is safer.

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saving notes (was No Subject)

2001-08-15 Thread Slava Paperno

Ron,

There are several ways to save data in a text file on any writeable drive. 
Look inty File IO Xtra that comes with Director, or a third party Xtra like 
FileXtra. A good place to start is:

http://www.macromedia.com/software/xtras/director/

Slava

At 06:40 PM 8/15/2001 +0100, you wrote:
> >Hi there,
> >I wonder if anyone can help, I am building a training movie which is run
> >from a CD , however I was wondering is there any way that I can have the
> >user make notes while the Movies are playing and later refer to them from
> >within the movie environment. I was thinking of some sort of text file that
> >is saved on the users hard drive and is available for reading and amending
> >whenever the movie is playing. This would be an alternative to the user
> >making hardcopy notes.
> >
> >Cheers if you can help
> >Ron (Newport, Gwent, South Wales)
>
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The Merits (or Not) of Protection

2001-08-15 Thread Watson, Christopher

This is a cross-post from Direct-L. My apologies if that offends.

Hello, everyone. I have an important series of questions regarding the
distribution of proprietary Lingo "libraries".

I'll use the term "library" loosely (because I am aware of the fact that a
Director Library is defined as an external cast that resides in the "Libs"
folder of a Director installation, and whose cast members can be accessed
via the Library palette). In my case, I'm talking about an external cast
containing nothing but parent scripts -- nothing that can be dragged to the
score or dropped on a sprite. This external cast is meant only to be linked
to by another movie, and then accessed via the API exposed by creating a
specific child object.

The Lingo in this external cast is proprietary, and took many man-months to
engineer. The intellectual property embodied by this work holds great value
for the creators, and they trust it will hold great value for its licensees.
As such, it needs to be protected.

Simple enough, you say! Just run the .cst through "Update Movies," and use
the "Protect" or "Convert to Shockwave Movie(s)" action. You end up with a
.cxt or .cct in which the textural representation of the Lingo is stripped
out.

Now comes my series of questions:

1) Is this enough protection? Meaning, is the readable Lingo in a .cxt or
.cct completely, and forever, inaccessible?

2) Is the .cxt or .cct file usable as a linkable external cast just as
easily and reliably as an unprotected .cst file? Are there any technical
"gotchas" here?

3) How about in authoring mode? You can still view the members of a linked
protected/compressed external cast while authoring, and you can bring up
blank script editor windows for the scripts in that cast. You can also type
into those blank editor windows and effectively replace the scripts for
those members, possibly rendering the entire external cast useless. Are
authoring mode edits of protected/compressed external cast members nothing
more than a support issue, or is there something else that can be done to
prevent this from happening altogether?

4) Could someone please characterize for me the opinions of the
"middle-user" community regarding protected casts? Are they generally
well-received, or frowned upon? 

5) Could someone please characterize for me how a protected external cast
rates against an Xtra with identical functionality? When used within the
environs of Shockwave, isn't an externally linked cast easier to deal with
for the end user than an Xtra which must be downloaded through a secure
certificate? Or is that a false perception?

6) If the "product" (as an external cast) is just as much a demonstration of
the capabilities of Lingo to implement an open standard as it is to provide
functionality for the end-user, are there still strong arguments for
implementing the functionality as an Xtra?

Thank you in advance for your input. I'm looking forward to the responses.

Christopher Watson
Sr. Software Engineer
Lightspan, Inc.

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No Subject

2001-08-15 Thread Ron Williams

>Hi there,
>I wonder if anyone can help, I am building a training movie which is run
>from a CD , however I was wondering is there any way that I can have the
>user make notes while the Movies are playing and later refer to them from
>within the movie environment. I was thinking of some sort of text file that
>is saved on the users hard drive and is available for reading and amending
>whenever the movie is playing. This would be an alternative to the user
>making hardcopy notes.
>
>Cheers if you can help
>Ron (Newport, Gwent, South Wales)


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RE: proxyServer()

2001-08-15 Thread Dale Withroder

thanks a lot!

At 10:54 AM 08/15/2001 -0600, you wrote:
>Hi Dale
>
>The issue is with the proxyServer.  Some proxyservers are
>set up (and this is generally an option) to log in to the
>proxyserver / firewall before gaining access to the
>internet.. This allows the IT folks to have control over who
>can access the Internet and who can't as well as giving them
>to option to log who goes where on the Internet.. thus they
>can instantly see who spends all their time on the porn
>sites and who does what.  Its a royal pain in the butt when
>they force you to log in to the proxyServer but that's part
>of life.  So the issue that Terry is pointing out is
>relative to the proxyServer itself and not the website that
>you are attempting to access.
>
>Sincerely
>Mark R. Jonkman
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RE: proxyServer()

2001-08-15 Thread Mark R. Jonkman

Hi Dale

The issue is with the proxyServer.  Some proxyservers are
set up (and this is generally an option) to log in to the
proxyserver / firewall before gaining access to the
internet.. This allows the IT folks to have control over who
can access the Internet and who can't as well as giving them
to option to log who goes where on the Internet.. thus they
can instantly see who spends all their time on the porn
sites and who does what.  Its a royal pain in the butt when
they force you to log in to the proxyServer but that's part
of life.  So the issue that Terry is pointing out is
relative to the proxyServer itself and not the website that
you are attempting to access.

Sincerely
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How can I speed up between shows?

2001-08-15 Thread Fred Westermeyer

Hi List, 

I have a project that runs all on buttons and made in D7(Windows). How do I make it 
run faster?

1. Does Dir files run better, faster or the same as Dxr files?
2. Is the size of the sprite span better at the default 28 or should I change them to 
7 since its all buttons?
3. Should I update to Director 8 or stay at Director 7? Is 8 fast or does it have 
something in it that will help made it run faster?
4. Or is there something I am missing or forgot to?



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Re: proxyServer()

2001-08-15 Thread Dale Withroder

so then the authentication issue is on the proxy server side, or the web
site side?  (forgive my ignorance of proxy servers)

At 03:41 PM 08/14/2001 -0700, you wrote:
>At 3:29 PM -0500 8/14/01, Dale Withroder wrote:
>>i have a moderate sized group of people using proxy servers.  the software
>>is working fine for all but one of them.  i store their proxy info in a v12
>>db...everything was stored correctly.  the software is installed on an nt
>>4.0 server, which also happens to be the proxy server.  are there any
>>special considerations i should be aware of?
>
>Authentication.  The Director proxyServer() command doesn't support any.
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Articels, tips for lingo

2001-08-15 Thread Victor Iwan

Hello again,
I wonder if there any site beside www.director-online.com or
www.macromedia.com to have tips/article for lingo/director... I'm
already try www.directoru.com but It seem have to pay..:(   (rather
expensive for "third" country peoples) 

Thanks
vic


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Flash again

2001-08-15 Thread Victor Iwan

I know that it's not the first time people ask about this :
How to telltarget/with action using lingo ?

I missed the old issue... Somebody kan give / pass me the old archieves
?



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Re: Director and CDDB

2001-08-15 Thread Tab Julius


CDDB publishes instructions on how to submit a code.  They also have rules 
on WHO can submit a code, if I recall, meaning that individuals were okay 
for the occasional check, but they didn't want their servers to get 
barraged by some major site submitting bazillions of lookups for 
free.  That was a few years and may have changed, but I would suggest 
checking.  They give you some .CGI script you can call to get info back.

I wrote CD Pro for CDDB 1.0, and I think they have 2.0 out, but I don't 
know much about it, or if it's backward compatible.

- Tab

At 04:04 PM 8/15/01 +0300, Pekka Buttler wrote:
>A recent (active) discussion thread started me thinking.
>The CDPro Xtra returns a cddb compatible ID code for use with CDDB, but how
>do you really get that information from a cddb?
>
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RE: Director and CDDB

2001-08-15 Thread Natalia Tjelum

Hi
I haven't looked into it yet, but you might want to check this out:
http://www.gracenote.com/dev/

-Natalia


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A recent (active) discussion thread started me thinking.
The CDPro Xtra returns a cddb compatible ID code for use with CDDB, but how
do you really get that information from a cddb?

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Re: cue point

2001-08-15 Thread Chad Mefferd (Morris Publishing)

on 8/15/01 8:35 AM, Raymond Ford at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> wait stops the play head. best thing to do is loop in
> the frame waiting for the que point.
> --- liza zainal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> hello,
>> 
>> i'm using cue point for my sound..
>> when certain cue point arrived, some animation will
>> appear..(all in a single frame)
>> i have other animation too while the sound is
>> playing,
>> problem is, when i use the wait for cue point, all
>> other animation will be stopped too, untill it
>> passed
>> the cue points..
>> 
>> can somebody help?
>> thanking u in advance
>> 
>> cikjee
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Are you using a Film Loop? If so, using cue points on the score will freeze
the film loop. If you use some thing like if soundBusy to wait for the end
of the sound or on cuePassed to wait for a cue point within the sound as a
frame behavior then the film loop will play.

Hope this helps.

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Re: corrupted castLib

2001-08-15 Thread Chad Mefferd (Morris Publishing)

on 8/14/01 8:39 AM, Katagiri, Junichi at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> This problem of mine is a rather devastating case where director froze while
> quitting. The result is an external castLib, where I used to store all
> parent scripts and linked my movies to, cannot be opened with director. My
> question is, obviously, "Is there a way to retrieve a castLib corrupted in
> such a way?" I know this sounds dumb, but losing it all will pull me back a
> few weeks. So I take the embarrassment and am hoping for your support.. I
> use Director Shockwave Stuido 8.5 on Mac OS9.1
> 
> Thanks
> 
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Ouch!

The only suggestion I can offer would be to use a disk repair utility like
Norton Utilities or Tech Tool to check for and make repairs to any damaged
file structures on your hard drive. Norton has saved my posterior on more
than one occasion.

Good luck,

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Re: Plz Help

2001-08-15 Thread Chad Mefferd (Morris Publishing)

on 8/14/01 2:49 AM, Shantanu Verma at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

A good reference for giving you some ideas on how to present this would be
"Director 8 and lingo [inside macromedia]" by Scott J. Wilson, Ph.D. and
Richard Salvatierra.

Many of the tutorials have you gradually build a multimedia presentation
with Quicktime movies and other functions. Aesthetically the design isn't
something to aspire to but it will get you on track for your purposes.

The ISBN is 0-7668-2008-4

Take care,

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Designer


> Hi Group,
> 
> I am going to develop a cd presentation for a company using director8.
> It will contain a lots of video and audio. Can you suggest me some
> references; how to make a CD presentation like this. I have been working
> with lingo since last 1 year but, never developed a CD presentation with
> video. Can you tell me which format of video should be taken? Is the
> presentation is possible to make without any paid Xtas ?
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Re: cue point

2001-08-15 Thread Raymond Ford

wait stops the play head. best thing to do is loop in
the frame waiting for the que point.
--- liza zainal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> hello,
> 
> i'm using cue point for my sound..
> when certain cue point arrived, some animation will
> appear..(all in a single frame)
> i have other animation too while the sound is
> playing,
> problem is, when i use the wait for cue point, all
> other animation will be stopped too, untill it
> passed
> the cue points..
> 
> can somebody help?
> thanking u in advance
> 
> cikjee
> 
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Director and CDDB

2001-08-15 Thread Pekka Buttler

A recent (active) discussion thread started me thinking.
The CDPro Xtra returns a cddb compatible ID code for use with CDDB, but how
do you really get that information from a cddb?

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RE: Controlling Audio CD's and Mp3 files?

2001-08-15 Thread Pekka Buttler

I have eard something about you being able to use the Windows MCI device on
Windows, but there are a few things to consider:
1# PC only
2# MCI is an old technology, and it will probably not be supported forever.
BTW, does anyone know whether it will work with Windows XP?
3# Using MCI is not as intuitive and AFAIK, it gives you no way of
controlling whether it works or not.

Using the CDPro Xtra does not in itself cost you anything, if the logo
troubles you, you can always try to contact Penworks, who infact hosts this
list.
Maybe you can reach an agreement to suit both parties

Pekka


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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> Behalf Of Natalia Tjelum
> Sent: 15. elokuuta 2001 12:29
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE:  Controlling Audio CD's and Mp3 files?
>
>
> Thanks a lot!
>
> I do have the Mp3 part figured out, with the use of Buddy api.
> But on the cd part, in order to use the CDPro xtra, I have to put the logo
> on the application, is there any other xtra out there that will
> do the same
> thing, without the logo issue? (It may cost money)
>
> -Natalia
>
>
> -Original Message-
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> Behalf Of Pekka Buttler
> Sent: 15. august 2001 11:19
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE:  Controlling Audio CD's and Mp3 files?
>
>
> Mp3's: member("MP3member").filename
> Audio CD's
> www.penworks.com   look for the CDPro Xtra (free)
> Pekka
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> > Behalf Of Natalia Tjelum
> > Sent: 15. elokuuta 2001 10:48
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject:  Controlling Audio CD's and Mp3 files?
> >
> >
> > Hey List
> >
> > I have searched the digests, and am now sure this can be done,
> > only problem
> > remaining is how?
> > What I need is sort of a winAmp, that you can load your MP3's
> > into from your
> > harddisk, and also play your audio cd's.
> >
> > Any tips are very appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks a lot.
> >
> > -Natalia
> >
> >
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Re: Lingo-L Digest V1 #2110

2001-08-15 Thread Mike S

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RE: Controlling Audio CD's and Mp3 files?

2001-08-15 Thread Al Hospers

> in order to use the CDPro xtra, I have to
> put the logo
> on the application, is there any other xtra out there that
> will do the same
> thing, without the logo issue? (It may cost money)

I know of no other Xtra. there is no cost to you to use the Xtra,
other than the logo placement. it will therefore cost you no money!

Al Hospers
CamberSoft, Inc.
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Shockwave and Director development, Lingo programming, CGI scripting.

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Re: timeout

2001-08-15 Thread mirianam

Hi and thanks for your response but I just can't seem to get my head around
timeout, timeoutLapsed, setting what to where? I wrote this script and oit seemed
to work for a while but then...

on timeout
  set the timeoutLength to 600
  if random (2)=2 then
go to frame 141


  else
  if random(2) = 2 then
go to frame 185
  else go to frame 230
 end if
end if
end

I have this as a moviescript, and a "go to the frame" at where I want the timeout
stuff to happen.

If I place my playback head after the "go to the frame" the movie seems to work.
It palys from whatever frame, returns to "index", waits 10 seconds and then
randomly go to one of 3 frames, plays that and returns to "index" and so on. But
if I start the movie from the beginning it just doesn't get passed the "go to the
frame" script.

What have I done wrong. I feel that I've tried everything but obviously am missing
something. Also the random part of the script - is there a better way of doing
this?

Any help on this would be really appreciated. Thank you
mm





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RE: Controlling Audio CD's and Mp3 files?

2001-08-15 Thread Natalia Tjelum

Thanks a lot!

I do have the Mp3 part figured out, with the use of Buddy api.
But on the cd part, in order to use the CDPro xtra, I have to put the logo
on the application, is there any other xtra out there that will do the same
thing, without the logo issue? (It may cost money)

-Natalia


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Sent: 15. august 2001 11:19
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Subject: RE:  Controlling Audio CD's and Mp3 files?


Mp3's: member("MP3member").filename
Audio CD's
www.penworks.com   look for the CDPro Xtra (free)
Pekka


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> Behalf Of Natalia Tjelum
> Sent: 15. elokuuta 2001 10:48
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  Controlling Audio CD's and Mp3 files?
>
>
> Hey List
>
> I have searched the digests, and am now sure this can be done,
> only problem
> remaining is how?
> What I need is sort of a winAmp, that you can load your MP3's
> into from your
> harddisk, and also play your audio cd's.
>
> Any tips are very appreciated.
>
> Thanks a lot.
>
> -Natalia
>
>
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RE: Controlling Audio CD's and Mp3 files?

2001-08-15 Thread Pekka Buttler

Mp3's: member("MP3member").filename
Audio CD's
www.penworks.com   look for the CDPro Xtra (free)
Pekka


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> Behalf Of Natalia Tjelum
> Sent: 15. elokuuta 2001 10:48
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  Controlling Audio CD's and Mp3 files?
> 
> 
> Hey List
> 
> I have searched the digests, and am now sure this can be done, 
> only problem
> remaining is how?
> What I need is sort of a winAmp, that you can load your MP3's 
> into from your
> harddisk, and also play your audio cd's.
> 
> Any tips are very appreciated.
> 
> Thanks a lot.
> 
> -Natalia
> 
> 
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RE: corrupted castLib

2001-08-15 Thread Jakob Hede Madsen

At 9:00 +0300 2001_08_15, Pekka Buttler wrote:

>To recover
>those scripts which were saved, you can try to open the corrupted castlib
>with a plaintext editor (not Word or Appleworks) like BBEdit

I have resurrected scripts that way.
Be aware that there might be several copies of a script, present as 
text in the file, due to the incremental save-mechanism, so be sure 
to find the last one.
If the file was compacted prior to being opened as text, there wont 
be duplicates.

Jakob


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cue point

2001-08-15 Thread liza zainal

hello,

i'm using cue point for my sound..
when certain cue point arrived, some animation will
appear..(all in a single frame)
i have other animation too while the sound is playing,
problem is, when i use the wait for cue point, all
other animation will be stopped too, untill it passed
the cue points..

can somebody help?
thanking u in advance

cikjee

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Controlling Audio CD's and Mp3 files?

2001-08-15 Thread Natalia Tjelum

Hey List

I have searched the digests, and am now sure this can be done, only problem
remaining is how?
What I need is sort of a winAmp, that you can load your MP3's into from your
harddisk, and also play your audio cd's.

Any tips are very appreciated.

Thanks a lot.

-Natalia


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