Re: Cluster File System for HA
There's thing that have always been wrong. Always from whose perspective? Everything you list is a result of a historical compromise from a time where there wasn't any other way to accomplish the task, or is an artifact of dealing with closed source components, and refactoring for refactoring's sake is just a waste of resources. We're dealing with 25-30 year old code here; standards were different then, and design by expedience is a hard thing to recover from. Regardless, AFS is still reliable, supportable and viable, and people use it in general purpose environments more often than OCFS. I expect that may change over time, but that's what I see out in the real world at the moment. OCFS is just too new to have developed a large following yet. It would be nice if it tracked the openafs tree a little closer, though. The in-kernel code has needed a lot of work so far to avoid causing miscellaneous problems in large deployments. I don't think there is any point in tracking OpenAFS code. It's of absymal code quality, and under a strange license that wouldn't even allow to reuse a piece of good code if you managed to find it. On the other hand, since the OpenAFS code is where fixes and functional enhancements are being done for AFS, it's a bit on the rude side to not track it, especially when it would allow one to avoid being a support PITA. Interoperability is a wee bit more important in non-trivial enterprise architecture, and many of the problems with the in-kernel code I mentioned have more to do with not being aware of the whole picture than coding errors. The Arla folks seem to manage not to be a PITA; it seems more practical (and productive) to me to work together rather than in isolation. The IBM license for OpenAFS is what it is. Is it perfect? No, but it's what IBM would agree to, it's the one we have, and it's better than a totally closed source approach. It's no worse than the BSD license, which is (considered objectively) not all that awful. As to code quality, based on close to two decades or so experience with the CMU and then the Transarc AFS code, I can say that the OpenAFS code is certainly a dramatic improvement from the Transarc code that IBM tossed over the wall, and has been steadily improving over time. You may not like it yet, but it's a lot better than it used to be -- and isn't incremental improvement the goal of open source? If you've got time to spare, assistance in perfecting the code to your standards is always welcome. We've drifted away from Linux-390 and cluster filesystems, though. I'd be happy to continue the discussion offlist. -- db -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Wiki
After looking I fount that there are several Wiki engines available. Which one is the best? Is that like asking which editor is the best? Pretty much. Most of the differences are on the back ends, and they all pretty much provide similar services and tools. You should put some time into planning the information organization framework, otherwise the tool really won't help you much. MediaWiki will run on Debian-390. Is anyone running a Wiki on a mainframe? Is that a good place to run one? We do (running mediawiki for that reason, in fact). It works fine, although you'll see occasional short bursts of CPU usage when someone submits a page because of the scans for metatags in the pages. The hardest part we found about using wiki software was that the documentation on how to get started is really genuinely awful. The Wikipedia author's guide is pretty much the best thing available, so it's worth reading it first. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: FTPS (FTP over SSL) Package for SLES9
Long story short, we're looking for an FTP server that will compile on SLES9 on the S/390. The server needs to support FTP over SSL so we can do some performance comparisons with an FTPS product that we are testing on VSE. While we could test it easily on a Windows box, I don't consider that a valid comparison. I'd rather perform comparison on the same hardware platform. The two of you are answering different questions. Terry is talking about clients; you're talking about servers. Vsftpd works quite nicely with ftps. It also has the advantage of using OpenSSL, so if you have a crypto engine and the current crypto drivers in your Linux, it's able to use it. Depending on your hardware, this may be a substantial win. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Humor? Microsoft declares: The Free Software movement is dead. Linux doesn't exist in 2007.
Well, it really shouldn't surprise anyone that a company that is in business to make money doesn't want to discuss giving their software away g. K -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gregg C Levine Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 11:41 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Humor? Microsoft declares: The Free Software movement is dead. Linux doesn't exist in 2007. Hello! They do not. I suspect it goes against their mentality. I once facetiously suggested to a representative of theirs that they should simply give away the OEM versions to licensed or appropriately and duly recognized individuals, and simply make arrangements that licenses and their associated cost be passed on to the buy of the hardware. However it got laughed out of the forum because he, (or was it she?) refused to believe that I was indeed serious and using that form of phrasing. However here's where it gets screwy, my local LUG is reacting very strangely to this issue. -- Gregg C Levine [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Force will be with you. Always. Obi-Wan Kenobi -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Cox Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 6:33 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] Humor? Microsoft declares: The Free Software movement is dead. Linux doesn't exist in 2007. On Tue, 15 May 2007 12:28:19 -0500 McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: quote The Free Software movement is dead. Linux doesn't exist in 2007. Even Linus has got a job today. Controversial statements from the head of Microsoft's Linux Labs, Bill Hilf. /quote A fine demonstration that Microsoft still don't understand even the basic concepts of Free Software. Alan -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Wiki
On 5/15/07, Stephen Frazier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: one is the best? Is that like asking which editor is the best? There's functional differences in the Wiki engines as well, so YMMV depending on what you want to do with it. I was rather pleased with the built-in functions in my Wiki that allowed you to iterate over all the pages that refer to your current page. We used it to mark pages with [ForReview] or so, and the ForReview page would have a list of referring pages. That can be used as agenda for a review meeting or so. It's a cool feature and I don't know whether they have it all. And once you do get sufficient content in the Wiki you may need a way to re-use that text to produce a static web site or a printed book. Depending on how text is kept in the system, that may be easy or very hard. Rob -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: RHEL 4 NFS question
SFS (shared file system) is a file system unique to VM, VM also has BFS (byte file system) and of course, minidisks. Information is stored on minidisks (mdisks) and SFS in the same format, i.e, you can copy a file from SFS to/from mdisks with a copy command. BFS uses different commands. Each FS has it's pros and cons. NFS allows access to any of these file types. I've used NFS to read/write to all three of these storage methods, but NFS seems to work better or is more friendly towards SFS and BFS (in my opinion). I have an app. that I copy files from a mdisk to SFS and then use NFS (aka VMNFS) so I can issue a mount command from linux and copy the files to that linux. Works great; getting the security right can be a little tricky. Steve G. Brad Hinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU 05/14/2007 04:31 PM Please respond to Linux on 390 Port To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU cc: Subject:Re: RHEL 4 NFS question I haven't heard much about SFS; Is this basically NFS for VM? Just to eliminate some unknowns, try: # service iptables stop # setenforce 0 and retry the mount. This will stop the firewall (iptables) and temporarily disable SELinux. It also may be helpful to look at a network trace (tcpdump) of the NFS traffic. I can shoot you a note offline on how to set this up if the above doesn't work for you. -Brad On Mon, 2007-05-14 at 13:02 -0700, Spann, Elizebeth (Betsie) wrote: The dmesg display has no reference to 'firewall'. What should I be looking for, please? B -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Post Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 12:21 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: RHEL 4 NFS question On Mon, May 14, 2007 at 1:53 PM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Spann, Elizebeth (Betsie) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Linux exports, Oh, man, do I have to start worrying about export controls now? ;) In converting a SuSE SLES 9 server to RHEL AS 4, I cannot mount a SFS running on another VM system. The VMNFS server on the other VM system does not restrict exports. The SFS files can be mounted on the SLES 9 systems, and on the VM system running the zLinux guests. The RHEL server can NFS mount exported files on other zLinux systems. Pings are successful by IP and hostname in all directions. The message is mount: trying 10.55.27.91 prog 13 vers 3 prot tcp port 2049 mount: mount to NFS server 'vm3' failed: timed out (retrying). Just a shot in the dark, but what does the firewall on the RHEL system say about this, via the dmesg command? -snip- Anyone have any suggestions, please? Stick with what works? =:O (Sorry, couldn't resist.) Mark Post -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- Brad Hinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Technical Account Manager Red Hat, Inc. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
TCPIP sniffering
Hi, we are quite new to zLinux (not to linux). We have some troubles with TCPIP networking, and are trying to diagnose some things. One of the first things we do is start sniffering on the network devices (tcpdump or ethereal). When we do this on zLinux, we see only weird packets passing, not anything that is recognized by either tcpdump or ethereal. The packets look like this : 13:01:38.311734 40:00:7a:06:07:eb (oui Unknown) 45:60:00:5c:43:5c (oui Unknown), ethertype Unknown (0xac1e), length 92: 0x: aac9 9148 ccc4 0f22 0016 e598 2910 a9ca ...H...)... 0x0010: 8e23 5018 3f98 4977 2bc9 1329 5c8c .#P.?.Iw..+..)\. 0x0020: 225d e502 e80e d104 d626 3a28 cf4e 292f ]...:(.N)/ 0x0030: 64bc 1332 6db8 29df d6f3 b46d e9ce c496 d..2m.)m 0x0040: 4ef6 53a4 8c80 9c5d 581f 1df3 2c2d N.S]X...,- There are thousands of packets like this passing in just a few seconds. The symptoms are the same for both OSA devices as HiperSockets. Are we missing something here ? I know we can somehow do similar thing under z/VM, but at the moment the Linux environment is more comfortable to us, so any advice is welcome. regards, Harry Metske De informatie opgenomen in dit bericht kan vertrouwelijk zijn en is uitsluitend bestemd voor de geadresseerde. Indien u dit bericht onterecht ontvangt, wordt u verzocht de inhoud niet te gebruiken en de afzender direct te informeren door het bericht te retourneren. Rabobank Nederland is een handelsnaam van de Cooperatieve Centrale Raiffeisen-Boerenleenbank B.A.Rabobank Nederland staat ingeschreven bij de K.V.K. onder nr. 30046259 The information contained in this message may be confidential and is intended to be exclusively for the addressee. Should you receive this message unintentionally, please do not use the contents herein and notify the sender immediately by return e-mail. Rabobank Nederland is a trade name of Cooperatieve Centrale Raiffeisen-Boerenleenbank B.A. Rabobank Nederland is registered by the Chamber of commerce under nr. 30046259 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: TCPIP sniffering
Looks like non character data, binary file ? K -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harry Metske Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 7:05 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: TCPIP sniffering Hi, we are quite new to zLinux (not to linux). We have some troubles with TCPIP networking, and are trying to diagnose some things. One of the first things we do is start sniffering on the network devices (tcpdump or ethereal). When we do this on zLinux, we see only weird packets passing, not anything that is recognized by either tcpdump or ethereal. The packets look like this : 13:01:38.311734 40:00:7a:06:07:eb (oui Unknown) 45:60:00:5c:43:5c (oui Unknown), ethertype Unknown (0xac1e), length 92: 0x: aac9 9148 ccc4 0f22 0016 e598 2910 a9ca ...H...)... 0x0010: 8e23 5018 3f98 4977 2bc9 1329 5c8c .#P.?.Iw..+..)\. 0x0020: 225d e502 e80e d104 d626 3a28 cf4e 292f ]...:(.N)/ 0x0030: 64bc 1332 6db8 29df d6f3 b46d e9ce c496 d..2m.)m 0x0040: 4ef6 53a4 8c80 9c5d 581f 1df3 2c2d N.S]X...,- There are thousands of packets like this passing in just a few seconds. The symptoms are the same for both OSA devices as HiperSockets. Are we missing something here ? I know we can somehow do similar thing under z/VM, but at the moment the Linux environment is more comfortable to us, so any advice is welcome. regards, Harry Metske De informatie opgenomen in dit bericht kan vertrouwelijk zijn en is uitsluitend bestemd voor de geadresseerde. Indien u dit bericht onterecht ontvangt, wordt u verzocht de inhoud niet te gebruiken en de afzender direct te informeren door het bericht te retourneren. Rabobank Nederland is een handelsnaam van de Cooperatieve Centrale Raiffeisen-Boerenleenbank B.A.Rabobank Nederland staat ingeschreven bij de K.V.K. onder nr. 30046259 The information contained in this message may be confidential and is intended to be exclusively for the addressee. Should you receive this message unintentionally, please do not use the contents herein and notify the sender immediately by return e-mail. Rabobank Nederland is a trade name of Cooperatieve Centrale Raiffeisen-Boerenleenbank B.A. Rabobank Nederland is registered by the Chamber of commerce under nr. 30046259 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: TCPIP sniffering
On 5/16/07, Harry Metske [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When we do this on zLinux, we see only weird packets passing, not anything that is recognized by either tcpdump or ethereal. The packets look like this : The level 3 packets are plain IP. I believe there was something done to the tcpdump package by SuSE to make it pick the proper type. You might be able to convince it with the -y option. Mine just works out of the box (SLES9 64bit) lrobv1:~ # rpm -q tcpdump tcpdump-3.8.1-49.4 lrobv1:~ # tcpdump -i hsi0 -n -c 20 tcpdump: verbose output suppressed, use -v or -vv for full protocol decode listening on hsi0, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet), capture size 96 bytes 04:13:40.484243 IP 212.61.81.181.3969 148.100.96.70.22: . ack 421602459 win 16024 04:13:40.537029 IP 148.100.96.70.22 212.61.81.181.3969: P 1:217(216) ack 0 win 19296 04:13:40.536892 IP 148.100.96.70.22 212.61.81.181.3969: P 217:333(116) ack 0 win 19296 04:13:40.641418 IP 212.61.81.181.3969 148.100.96.70.22: . ack 333 win 15692 04:13:40.641458 IP 148.100.96.70.22 212.61.81.181.3969: P 333:485(152) ack 0 win 19296 04:13:40.641753 IP 148.100.96.70.22 212.61.81.181.3969: P 485:569(84) ack 0 win 19296 04:13:40.746184 IP 212.61.81.181.3969 148.100.96.70.22: . ack 569 win 15456 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: TCPIP sniffering
Rob, we run SLES10 with : lnxt002:~ # rpm -q tcpdump tcpdump-3.9.4-14.2 Any suggestions for the datalinktype, I tried a few, but they are not accepted, or when specifying En10MB I get the same junk as without the -y option. Same for the SLES9 system we run: lnxt003:~ # rpm -q tcpdump tcpdump-3.8.1-49.1 regards, Harry -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Rob van der Heij Verzonden: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 1:19 PM Aan: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Onderwerp: Re: TCPIP sniffering On 5/16/07, Harry Metske [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When we do this on zLinux, we see only weird packets passing, not anything that is recognized by either tcpdump or ethereal. The packets look like this : The level 3 packets are plain IP. I believe there was something done to the tcpdump package by SuSE to make it pick the proper type. You might be able to convince it with the -y option. Mine just works out of the box (SLES9 64bit) lrobv1:~ # rpm -q tcpdump tcpdump-3.8.1-49.4 lrobv1:~ # tcpdump -i hsi0 -n -c 20 tcpdump: verbose output suppressed, use -v or -vv for full protocol decode listening on hsi0, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet), capture size 96 bytes 04:13:40.484243 IP 212.61.81.181.3969 148.100.96.70.22: . ack 421602459 win 16024 04:13:40.537029 IP 148.100.96.70.22 212.61.81.181.3969: P 1:217(216) ack 0 win 19296 04:13:40.536892 IP 148.100.96.70.22 212.61.81.181.3969: P 217:333(116) ack 0 win 19296 04:13:40.641418 IP 212.61.81.181.3969 148.100.96.70.22: . ack 333 win 15692 04:13:40.641458 IP 148.100.96.70.22 212.61.81.181.3969: P 333:485(152) ack 0 win 19296 04:13:40.641753 IP 148.100.96.70.22 212.61.81.181.3969: P 485:569(84) ack 0 win 19296 04:13:40.746184 IP 212.61.81.181.3969 148.100.96.70.22: . ack 569 win 15456 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 De informatie opgenomen in dit bericht kan vertrouwelijk zijn en is uitsluitend bestemd voor de geadresseerde. Indien u dit bericht onterecht ontvangt, wordt u verzocht de inhoud niet te gebruiken en de afzender direct te informeren door het bericht te retourneren. Rabobank Nederland is een handelsnaam van de Cooperatieve Centrale Raiffeisen-Boerenleenbank B.A.Rabobank Nederland staat ingeschreven bij de K.V.K. onder nr. 30046259 The information contained in this message may be confidential and is intended to be exclusively for the addressee. Should you receive this message unintentionally, please do not use the contents herein and notify the sender immediately by return e-mail. Rabobank Nederland is a trade name of Cooperatieve Centrale Raiffeisen-Boerenleenbank B.A. Rabobank Nederland is registered by the Chamber of commerce under nr. 30046259 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: FTPS (FTP over SSL) Package for SLES9
David replied: The two of you are answering different questions. Terry is talking about clients; you're talking about servers. Vsftpd works quite nicely with ftps. It also has the advantage of using OpenSSL, so if you have a crypto engine and the current crypto drivers in your Linux, it's able to use it. Depending on your hardware, this may be a substantial win. Now I understand Jay's requirement. As David stated correctly. vsftpd with OpenSSL and Crypto could provide a very good solution for an FTP server with security and encryption. vsftpd and products like it also give you the ability to manage the FTP as a service in your organization. Regards, Terry L. Spaulding [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: TCPIP sniffering
Harry Metske [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 16.05.2007 13:37:41: we run SLES10 with : lnxt002:~ # rpm -q tcpdump tcpdump-3.9.4-14.2 This may be the same as a known problem on SLES10 (Novell Bugzilla 148371). The suggested workaround is to use the fake_ll option of the qeth driver as described in the Linux on zSeries Device Driver's manual at http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/linux390/october2005_documentation.html Regards, Peter Oberparleiter -- Peter Oberparleiter Linux on System z Development IBM Deutschland Entwicklung GmbH -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: TCPIP sniffering
excellent ! echo 1 /sys/devices/qeth/0.0.0600/fake_ll did the job. At least for the incoming packets, I'll read the manual a bit further, I understand there are more options. thanks ! Harry -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Peter 1 Oberparleiter Verzonden: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 1:58 PM Aan: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Onderwerp: Re: TCPIP sniffering Harry Metske [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 16.05.2007 13:37:41: we run SLES10 with : lnxt002:~ # rpm -q tcpdump tcpdump-3.9.4-14.2 This may be the same as a known problem on SLES10 (Novell Bugzilla 148371). The suggested workaround is to use the fake_ll option of the qeth driver as described in the Linux on zSeries Device Driver's manual at http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/linux390/october2005_documen tation.html Regards, Peter Oberparleiter -- Peter Oberparleiter Linux on System z Development IBM Deutschland Entwicklung GmbH -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 De informatie opgenomen in dit bericht kan vertrouwelijk zijn en is uitsluitend bestemd voor de geadresseerde. Indien u dit bericht onterecht ontvangt, wordt u verzocht de inhoud niet te gebruiken en de afzender direct te informeren door het bericht te retourneren. Rabobank Nederland is een handelsnaam van de Cooperatieve Centrale Raiffeisen-Boerenleenbank B.A.Rabobank Nederland staat ingeschreven bij de K.V.K. onder nr. 30046259 The information contained in this message may be confidential and is intended to be exclusively for the addressee. Should you receive this message unintentionally, please do not use the contents herein and notify the sender immediately by return e-mail. Rabobank Nederland is a trade name of Cooperatieve Centrale Raiffeisen-Boerenleenbank B.A. Rabobank Nederland is registered by the Chamber of commerce under nr. 30046259 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: TCPIP sniffering
Harry Metske wrote: Hi, we are quite new to zLinux (not to linux). We have some troubles with TCPIP networking, and are trying to diagnose some things. One of the first things we do is start sniffering on the network devices (tcpdump or ethereal). Use tcpdump-qeth , or use a Network with Layer-2 support. Mark -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Humor? Microsoft declares: The Free Software movement is dead. Linux doesn't exist in 2007.
On Wed, 16 May 2007 05:40:44 -0400 Evans, Kevin R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, it really shouldn't surprise anyone that a company that is in business to make money doesn't want to discuss giving their software away g. Ah.. someone else who doesn't understand it 8) If you make more money indirectly by giving it away than by selling it which does the rational business do ? It isn't really any different to the growing number of musicians who give their music away to get people to profitable gigs rather than go via the established music industry. Alan -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Wiki
After looking I fount that there are several Wiki engines available. Which one is the best? Mike MacIsaac and I have installed and played with both MediaWiki, and Confluence. Yes, and I've also run moinmoin on z. moinmoin's backend is just the filesystem, so you can cheat and modify content with vi. But, having used WYSIWYG editors for a long time, it is hard to go back to tagging, especially with a project that requires substantial documentation. I like Confluence the best because it creates browser tabs that allow you to edit content in both tagged mode and what I would call near-WYSIWYG. The presentation also seems just a bit more polished than the others. And once you do get sufficient content in the Wiki you may need a way to re-use that text to produce a static web site or a printed book. Depending on how text is kept in the system, that may be easy or very hard. I concur with Rob on this. It seems hard to get your arms around your wiki content. But I didn't do a lot of work with any wiki, so there are probably tools/functions that allow you to. It's just a different mindset from the book model of documentation. Hope this helps. Mike MacIsaac [EMAIL PROTECTED] (845) 433-7061 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Humor? Microsoft declares: The Free Software movement is dead. Linux doesn't exist in 2007.
I understand it only too well, but it isn't Microsoft's business model. It is, in their opinion, not a valid business model to give away their software. Their choice, no? K -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Cox Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 9:12 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Humor? Microsoft declares: The Free Software movement is dead. Linux doesn't exist in 2007. On Wed, 16 May 2007 05:40:44 -0400 Evans, Kevin R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, it really shouldn't surprise anyone that a company that is in business to make money doesn't want to discuss giving their software away g. Ah.. someone else who doesn't understand it 8) If you make more money indirectly by giving it away than by selling it which does the rational business do ? It isn't really any different to the growing number of musicians who give their music away to get people to profitable gigs rather than go via the established music industry. Alan -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Humor? Microsoft declares: The Free Software movement is dead. Linux doesn't exist in 2007.
On Wed, 16 May 2007 09:18:42 -0400 Evans, Kevin R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I understand it only too well, but it isn't Microsoft's business model. How much did you pay for your copy of Internet Explorer when it was released as a download,or MS Word viewer, or ... -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Minimum SLES9 packages
Mark Post wrote: On Tue, May 15, 2007 at 11:45 AM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Kim Goldenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -snip- Maybe Mark can post his list anyway? I just went through a SLES9 install on my Hercules box and played with package selections. Following is a list of all the packages you _could_ choose not to install. There are some I certainly don't recommend leaving out, but for the sake of completeness, I'm listing them. There were a few others that could have been left out, but that would have resulted in what I consider to be really, really, essential stuff being left out also. There are also some commands that I think should really be added, but that's more personal preference than anything. Note that with a number of these, if you mark them as Taboo you'll be prompted to resolve a conflict, and you'll have to check the box that says don't install the packages that require this one. Mark Post Mark - Thanks for the list. I'll use it as a starting point and see which I really don't need and those that I will keep. -- Kim Goldenberg Systems Programmer I State of NJ - OIT 609-777-3722 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Wiki
Stephen Frazier wrote: I am considering using Wiki to organize and make available some of the IT documentation that is spread all over my shop. After looking I fount that there are several Wiki engines available. Which one is the best? Is that like asking which editor is the best? MediaWiki will run on Debian-390. Is anyone running a Wiki on a mainframe? Is that a good place to run one? -- Stephen Frazier Information Technology Unit Oklahoma Department of Corrections 3400 Martin Luther King Oklahoma City, Ok, 73111-4298 Tel.: (405) 425-2549 Fax: (405) 425-2554 Pager: (405) 690-1828 email: stevef%doc.state.ok.us -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 I haven't got it on z (yet), but I'm running Docuwiki (http://wiki.splitbrain.org/wiki:dokuwiki). It was recommended to me by the local LUG members. It uses plain flat files for its storage (I guess link moinmoin that Mike MacIssac mentioned), so if it rolls over, you can just browse the files for the info. php based, and easy to set up. BTW - the local LUG (Linux User Group) has been a great source of Linux information in general. I've even gotten my LIP level 1 cert through them. They kind of laugh at my mainframe mentality, but that's their loss. -- Kim Goldenberg Systems Programmer I State of NJ - OIT 609-777-3722 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Wiki
On 5/16/07, Kim Goldenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW - the local LUG (Linux User Group) has been a great source of Linux information in general. I've even gotten my LIP level 1 cert through them. They kind of laugh at my mainframe mentality, but that's their loss. Yes. Isn't it cool that now with Linux you have a lot in common with many of those folks. I recently did a presentation about virtualization on the mainframe at the Dutch UUG. Rob -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: FTPS (FTP over SSL) Package for SLES9
Hi, Along with vsftpd, SLES9 also comes with the pure-ftpd server which supports TLS/SSL. Regars, -Jose -Original Message- From: Jay Ableidinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 5:34 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: FTPS (FTP over SSL) Package for SLES9 Long story short, we're looking for an FTP server that will compile on SLES9 on the S/390. The server needs to support FTP over SSL so we can do some performance comparisons with an FTPS product that we are testing on VSE. While we could test it easily on a Windows box, I don't consider that a valid comparison. I'd rather perform comparison on the same hardware platform. Terry Spaulding [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jay, is your need to have a secured FTP with SSL for encryption or specific to FTPS with SSL ? If SSL is the issue you can setup your ssh logon to be SSL and the sftp will then be encrypted. As Mark pointed out I believe vsftpd is supposed to support FTPS. Not sure if vsftpd has provided the full data encryption yet. You may want to check out WS_FTP Pro I think it supports FTPS with SSL but is a fee based solution. They do have a trial period. Jay replied: SFTP is SSH File Transfer Protocol. I am looking for FTPS (FTP over SSH). Completely different animals. I have a very specific need for FTPS and SFTP will not suffice. Terry Spaulding wrote: You can use sftp which works very well. Command mode, native, and free. I have also used a GUI package on WIN/XP called WinSCP3. It is free on the internet and uses sftp. Nice point/click/drag between Win/XP and Linux zSeries or between Linux zSeries and another Linux zSeries using the Win/XP as a go between. Regards, Terry L. Spaulding [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 If you don't know where you are going, any road will take you there. Lewis Carroll If you don't know where you are, a map won't help Unknown - Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 Scanned by McAfee SCM2 Scanned by Triple-S SCM1 - *Attention* This electronic message, including any attachments, contains information that may be legally confidential and/or privileged. The information is intended solely for the individual or entity named above and access by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error and delete it from your system.
Re: Wiki
Hi, We are running Mambo (www.mamboserver.com) on zLinux in our internal network, it's basically an Open Source CMS (similar so MS Share Point) and it has a wiki module. Regards, -Jose -Original Message- From: Stephen Frazier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 5:30 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Wiki I am considering using Wiki to organize and make available some of the IT documentation that is spread all over my shop. After looking I fount that there are several Wiki engines available. Which one is the best? Is that like asking which editor is the best? MediaWiki will run on Debian-390. Is anyone running a Wiki on a mainframe? Is that a good place to run one? -- Stephen Frazier Information Technology Unit Oklahoma Department of Corrections 3400 Martin Luther King Oklahoma City, Ok, 73111-4298 Tel.: (405) 425-2549 Fax: (405) 425-2554 Pager: (405) 690-1828 email: stevef%doc.state.ok.us -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 Scanned by McAfee SCM1 Scanned by Triple-S SCM1 - *Attention* This electronic message, including any attachments, contains information that may be legally confidential and/or privileged. The information is intended solely for the individual or entity named above and access by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error and delete it from your system.
Re: Wiki
I am considering using Wiki to organize and make available some of the IT documentation that is spread all over my shop. After looking I fount that there are several Wiki engines available. Which one is the best? Is that like asking which editor is the best? Wiki does not organise. One of the reasons I despise Wiki for a lot of things is that it has no categorisation generally speaking. Some like Mediawiki at least have good search but its not substitute for structure - either enforced by a good editor or content managers that deal with what/where something belongs. MediaWiki will run on Debian-390. Is anyone running a Wiki on a mainframe? Is that a good place to run one? Its capable of being quite a CPU hog under heavy use. I guess it depends on the userbase. You could always put the db on the mainframe and the engine on a PC I guess Alan -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Wiki
I also am looking for something to collect documentation tidbits into a DB that all can contribute to. We do have a need to search and organise though. We are a very small group (6 ppl) and are only doing the occaisional DB updates and compilations. I was considering just writing my own software with PHP/MySQL but found MySQL to be a memory hog so am unsure how that will affect us. We are also somewhat constrained with z/Linux under a z/VM guest. Is wiki not the way for me to go? thank you, gurus - Original Message From: Alan Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 1:57:59 PM Subject: Re: Wiki I am considering using Wiki to organize and make available some of the IT documentation that is spread all over my shop. After looking I fount that there are several Wiki engines available. Which one is the best? Is that like asking which editor is the best? Wiki does not organise. One of the reasons I despise Wiki for a lot of things is that it has no categorisation generally speaking. Some like Mediawiki at least have good search but its not substitute for structure - either enforced by a good editor or content managers that deal with what/where something belongs. MediaWiki will run on Debian-390. Is anyone running a Wiki on a mainframe? Is that a good place to run one? Its capable of being quite a CPU hog under heavy use. I guess it depends on the userbase. You could always put the db on the mainframe and the engine on a PC I guess Alan -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Wiki
On Wed, 16 May 2007 14:13:07 -0700 Warren Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I also am looking for something to collect documentation tidbits into a DB that all can contribute to. We do have a need to search and organise though. We are a very small group (6 ppl) and are only doing the occaisional DB updates and compilations. I was considering just writing my own software with PHP/MySQL but found MySQL to be a memory hog so am unsure how that will affect us. We are also somewhat constrained with z/Linux under a z/VM guest. Is wiki not the way for me to go? If you've got six people you can perhaps enforce editorial policy. One or two of the smaller wikis will let you use sqlite or flat files which mean you don't need a daemon running. You pay in scalability but that probably doesn't matter for a small site. Ww is probably the most extreme example of a miniature wiki for resources (actually Ww is so small you can probably hack anything random into it in a day) Some of the content managers also use wiki editing/formatting combined with an actual index and taxonomy so that content is more forcibly organised. Mambo is sort of in this category but I find a bit heavyweight - good demo at http://www.mamboserver.com though so you can play to your hearts content. http://www.oscom.org/matrix/index.html is a huge list of Open CMS systems. Also see http://www.opensourcecms.com/ Alan -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Fw: [LINUX-390] Wiki
I also am looking for something to collect documentation tidbits into a DB that all can contribute to. We do have a need to search and organise though. We are a very small group (6 ppl) and are only doing the occaisional DB updates and compilations. I was considering just writing my own software with PHP/MySQL but found MySQL to be a memory hog so am unsure how that will affect us. We are also somewhat constrained with z/Linux under a z/VM guest. Is wiki not the way for me to go? Well... I prefer a wiki to using a Lotus Notes TeamRoom simply because no one has to run a Lotus Notes client. As Alan Cox mentioned wikis don't automagically help you organize information. That being said, a wiki isn't designed to restrict access to information, either, so anyone who can access the system's web server has access to *everything* even if you _do_ decide to restrict who can make edits. I preferred the wiki because it *is* disorganized and can be assembled in a piecemeal fashion, where you can build a stub full of your questions and send the URL off to whoever you see as a subject matter expert capable of filling them in. It also avoids the tendency to lose e-mails, too. I've put up MediaWiki on a machine we named Seldon, here, for our lab-specific documents and links. We were considering the need to add two more for other users to use which would have been placed on Terminus and Trantor, but this wasn't going very fast. I have to admit that it's been a good place to put presentations done for education so that people didn't download 'em via Lotus Notes. Wikis have weaker document control than Notes. This I see as more of a strength than a weakness because I see innovation as a bottom up process while others will likely see the same features as a weakness. It all depends upon what you want and how you want it. If you want to be more organized and make sure that everything is under tight control, think of going with Lotus Notes. Otherwise? After using Lotus Notes for a lot of projects, I find the wiki server a LOT easier to deal with. And, yeah, setting up MediaWiki is *not* painless, though OpenSuSE 10.2 has tools to make it easier. John R. Campbell, Speaker to Machines (GNUrd), Stand-Up Philosopher Phone: (813) 356-5322 (t/l 697) Adsumo ergo raptus sum MacOS X: Because making Unix user-friendly was easier than debugging Windows. Red Hat Certified Engineer (#803004680310286) IBM Certified: IBM AIX 4.3 System Administration, System Support -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Wiki
On May 16, 2007, at 4:42 PM, John Campbell wrote: I've put up MediaWiki on a machine we named Seldon, Setting up MediaWiki can get pretty hari. Adam -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: FTPS (FTP over SSL) Package for SLES9
José L. Ramírez wrote: Hi, Along with vsftpd, SLES9 also comes with the pure-ftpd server which supports TLS/SSL. Pretty much any ftpd can be made into an FTPS server by using stunnel, too. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Webphere's Host on-Demand
Has any one had experience installing and customizing Linux based Host on-Demand product. CliffJackson Senior Systems Programmer This is a new Website for over the counter drugs (OTC), please visit at WWW.DiscountMedsInc.com Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mailp=summer+activities+for+kidscs=bz -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Wiki
I also am looking for something to collect documentation tidbits into a DB that all can contribute to. We do have a need to search and organise though. Take a look at content management systems like Drupal or Mambo as well as wiki. I like the simplicity of the wiki idea, but it's biggest flaw is that you really have to set the structure before you cut the unwashed masses loose on it if you expect to be able to really make any coordinated use of it. We are a very small group (6 ppl) and are only doing the occaisional DB updates and compilations. I was considering just writing my own software with PHP/MySQL but found MySQL to be a memory hog so am unsure how that will affect us. We are also somewhat constrained with z/Linux under a z/VM guest. Is wiki not the way for me to go? It'll work fine for that purpose - most of the piggy bits are related to search and initial page entry, so if you're not doing a lot of changes, you shouldn't have problems. Just put some planning time into setting up an initial page structure that makes sense to all of you (or can be easily documented), and you should be fine. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Wiki
José L. Ramírez wrote: Hi, We are running Mambo (www.mamboserver.com) on zLinux in our internal network, it's basically an Open Source CMS (similar so MS Share Point) and it has a wiki module. There were some difficulties with IP - trademarks and such, I believe, and the project forked. Look to Joomla. -- Cheers John -- spambait [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please do not reply off-list -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Fw: [LINUX-390] Wiki
I've put up MediaWiki on a machine we named Seldon, here, for I misread that as Seldom at first, and began to imagine cool domain names to go with it. our lab-specific documents and links. We were considering the need to add two more for other users to use which would have been placed on Terminus and Trantor, but this wasn't going very fast. The penny dropped at Trantor. -- Cheers John -- spambait [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please do not reply off-list -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Humor? Microsoft declares: The Free Software movement is dead. Linux doesn't exist in 2007.
Alan Cox wrote: On Wed, 16 May 2007 05:40:44 -0400 Evans, Kevin R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, it really shouldn't surprise anyone that a company that is in business to make money doesn't want to discuss giving their software away g. Ah.. someone else who doesn't understand it 8) If you make more money indirectly by giving it away than by selling it which does the rational business do ? It isn't really any different to the growing number of musicians who give their music away to get people to profitable gigs rather than go via the established music industry. Alan But Bill doesn't do the gigs. -- Cheers John -- spambait [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please do not reply off-list -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Wiki
I've put up MediaWiki on a machine we named Seldon, Setting up MediaWiki can get pretty hari. Hari? What about the stuffed animal sitting on the desktop machine in my office (providently named 'rama')? It has a nice new collar with two tuned bells on it, providing, of course... the rama llama ding-dong (uh-oh! It must be Friday somewhere...) -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Humor? Microsoft declares: The Free Software movement is dead. Linux doesn't exist in 2007.
Alan Cox wrote: On Wed, 16 May 2007 09:18:42 -0400 Evans, Kevin R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I understand it only too well, but it isn't Microsoft's business model. How much did you pay for your copy of Internet Explorer when it was released as a download,or MS Word viewer, or ... Like webexplorer on OS/2 some years ago, IE is paid for in the Windows charge. It's also the maintenance tool for Windows. Did you try USB on Windows 95? Or Windows NT? MS does give some stuff away, probably in an attempt to keep people on Windows. IMV the most useful freebie is Virtual PC which allows me to run Linux (or OS/2) under Windows on my laptop which doesn't have the hardware capability to run Windows under Linux using Xen. -- Cheers John -- spambait [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please do not reply off-list -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Webphere's Host on-Demand
Has any one had experience installing and customizing Linux based Host on-Demand product. Yes. It works as advertised. Some comments: 1) Installing Websphere to manage downloading a bunch of JAR file is massive overkill. Check out http://h3270.sourceforge.net for a much lighter weight alternative. 2) Expensive for what you get. 3) The main benefit of HOD is support for some of the more esoteric 3270 features. H3270 covers about 90% of the common ones, so it's a hard case to make. There's also a very nice capability in both HOD and h3270 to do graphical overlays for 3270 screens that is handy for the mainframe illiterate. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Wiki
On Wed, May 16, 2007 at 07:36:48PM -0400, David Boyes wrote: Hari? What about the stuffed animal sitting on the desktop machine in my office (providently named 'rama')? It has a nice new collar with two tuned bells on it, providing, of course... the rama llama ding-dong Good thing the bells are there...lest an observer think the rama llama ding dong is sitting in front of the keyboard. -- Jay Maynard, K5ZC http://www.conmicro.com http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net http://www.hercules-390.org (Yes, that's me!) Buy Hercules stuff at http://www.cafepress.com/hercules-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Wiki
On May 16, 2007, at 8:02 PM, Jay Maynard wrote: On Wed, May 16, 2007 at 07:36:48PM -0400, David Boyes wrote: Hari? What about the stuffed animal sitting on the desktop machine in my office (providently named 'rama')? It has a nice new collar with two tuned bells on it, providing, of course... the rama llama ding-dong Good thing the bells are there...lest an observer think the rama llama ding dong is sitting in front of the keyboard. I refuse to turn on my iSight so that this can be either refuted or confirmed. Adam -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Wiki
Good thing the bells are there...lest an observer think the rama llama ding dong is sitting in front of the keyboard. Hmph. This from the guy in the Tron suit. Look, you lisp, and wear strange suits! -- Wm Shakespeare, Two Gentlemen of Verona -- db (who's feeling a bit silly this evening) -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Wiki
On 5/16/07, David Boyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good thing the bells are there...lest an observer think the rama llama ding dong is sitting in front of the keyboard. Hmph. This from the guy in the Tron suit. Look, you lisp, and wear strange suits! -- Wm Shakespeare, Two Gentlemen of Verona -- db (who's feeling a bit silly this evening) -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 Hello! Well for those of us who keep strange company, I have here two Siberian tiger cubs named Igor and Ivan. They are sitting on the printer and are bored. And as you'd all expect from my company name I have here four representatives from that galaxy. Two are the 'droids, I will leave it as an exercise for the group who the others are. -- Gregg C Levine [EMAIL PROTECTED] This signature was once found posting rude messages in English in the Moscow subway. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: FTPS (FTP over SSL) Package for SLES9
On Wednesday, 05/16/2007 at 03:02 MST, Brandon Darbro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: José L. Ramírez wrote: Hi, Along with vsftpd, SLES9 also comes with the pure-ftpd server which supports TLS/SSL. Pretty much any ftpd can be made into an FTPS server by using stunnel, too. Sort of, but not really. FTPS is defined by RFC 4217, which provides for new FTP subcommands to enter/exit the TLS environment. This is what the z/VM 5.3 FTP server *and* client support. I don't know whether the normal Linux ftp client has been updated for RFC 4217 yet. I believe FileZilla on SoureForge.net supports ftps. Transparent TLS can certainly be done, but that's not the same thing. Our research showed that client support for FTP using a transparent TLS connection was rare. Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
