SLES10 install issue
Greetings, I have installed SLES10SP1 under z/VM 9 seperate times. I have used cloning to install some more instances. I wanted to get back to installing one more instance from the NFS server and the process failed with: YaST got signal 11 YCP file Storage.ycp:1110. The process starts normally and then starts to considerably slow down at the Installation point and seems to hang at the configuration option of partitionning. It just sits at this point with the VM virtual machine taking about 20%CPU. (See attached file: vnc17295.jpg) Any ideas. Thanks and Regards, Jihad K. Kawkabani IT Systems Engineer Consultant Voice: 440.395.0740 Network: 575.0740 Cell: 440.465.2969 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390<>
Re: SLES10 install issue
Does this new instance that you're installing have the correct minimum amount of memory? Jihad K Kawkabani wrote: Greetings, I have installed SLES10SP1 under z/VM 9 seperate times. I have used cloning to install some more instances. I wanted to get back to installing one more instance from the NFS server and the process failed with: YaST got signal 11 YCP file Storage.ycp:1110. The process starts normally and then starts to considerably slow down at the Installation point and seems to hang at the configuration option of partitionning. It just sits at this point with the VM virtual machine taking about 20%CPU. (See attached file: vnc17295.jpg) Any ideas. Thanks and Regards, Jihad K. Kawkabani IT Systems Engineer Consultant Voice: 440.395.0740 Network: 575.0740 Cell: 440.465.2969 -- Rich Smrcina VM Assist, Inc. Phone: 414-491-6001 Ans Service: 360-715-2467 rich.smrcina at vmassist.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/richsmrcina Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2008 - Chattanooga - April 18-22, 2008 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: SLES10 install issue
> The process starts normally and then starts to considerably slow down Do you have at least 512M of storage (memory)? "Mike MacIsaac" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (845) 433-7061 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
cook book for Hercules
Hi. Is there a cook book on installing zLinux (SLES 10) under Hercules under 64 bit linux? Mike -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Problems with rexec
Sorry, I don't know why the previous post showed me writing that I DID have a REXEC problem. Actually I didn't have it, which was what I wrote a few lines below, in a trial to answer the original question by Mr. Jakub. What I tried to say was: - I have an entry for RXAGENT1 in IBM DTCPARMS. - I also have another entry for RXAGENT1 in SYSTEM DTCPARMS. - I don't have a double result for a rexec execution using RXAGENT1. (which was the original problem of Mr. Jakub). - By default REXEC doesn't seem to allow anonymous connections unless you specify :Anonymous.YES in SYSTEM DTCPARMS. Sorry for the misunderstanding. Saludos / BRGDS, José R. Barón Dpto. Sistemas CALCULO S. A. Tel. 91 330 86 44 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] P No imprima este e-mail si no es realmente necesario -Mensaje original- De: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] En nombre de Alan Altmark Enviado el: jueves, 20 de marzo de 2008 0:37 Para: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Asunto: Re: Problems with rexec On Wednesday, 03/19/2008 at 05:49 EDT, Jose Raul Baron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have an entry for RXAGENT1 in IBM DTCPARMS: > > :nick.RXAGENT1 :type.server :class.rexec_agent :for.REXECD > > and I also have an entry for RXAGENT1 in SYSTEM DTCPARMS: > > :nick.RXAGENT1 :type.server :class.rexec_agent :for.REXECD > > and I don't have that problem: 1) I'm confused. Your previous post showed the problem, which I can reproduce here in the lab. 2) You shouldn't have the entry in SYSTEM DTCPARMS unless the one in IBM DTCPARMS doesn't meet your needs. (Don't duplicate data between IBM and SYSTEM DTCPARMS.) > In fact I "kind of" log in as RXAGENT1 to be able to execute the "q disk" > command. I can't do it as anonymous: > > lnxv00:~ # rexec -l anonymous -p anonymous 197.10.1.210 q disk > No agent machines are available at this time. If you code :Anonymous.YES in a SYSTEM DTCPARMS entry for :Nick.REXECD, then anonymous access will be available to you. Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: SLES10 install issue
I had 256M defined on the new service machine. 512M fixed the problem. Thanks and Regards, Jihad K. Kawkabani IT Systems Engineer Consultant Voice: 440.395.0740 Network: 575.0740 Cell: 440.465.2969 Michael MacIsaac <[EMAIL PROTECTED] om>To Sent by: Linux on LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU 390 Port cc <[EMAIL PROTECTED] IST.EDU> Subject Re: SLES10 install issue 03/24/2008 10:16 AM Please respond to Linux on 390 Port <[EMAIL PROTECTED] IST.EDU> > The process starts normally and then starts to considerably slow down Do you have at least 512M of storage (memory)? "Mike MacIsaac" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (845) 433-7061 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
SLES9 SP4 install problem
Hello list, I'm trying to install SLES 9 SP4. I believe I built an install tree per the README file on CD1 of SP4. This tree is NFS-exported and can be mounted on another running system in the same subnet. I have a 768M machine. When I use the kernel and RAMdisk from the SP4 CD1, during network setup, the gateway cannot be pinged. When I use the kernel and RADdisk from the vanilla SLES 9 CD1, the install process gets through all of the networking, then seems to fail on the NFS mount of the install tree. Here is the conosole error: == ... Yes/No:warning: can't open /etc/fstab: No such file or directory lockd: failed to open /var/lib/nfs/state: err=-2 Which terminal do want to use? 1) X-Window 2) VNC (VNC-Client or Java enabled Browser) 3) ssh Choice:Please enter the Password for VNC-Access (6 to 8 characters): ramdisk /dev/ram0 freed >>> SUSE LINUX Enterprise Server 9 installation program v1.6.36 (c) 1996-2004 SU SE LINUX AG <<< SCSI subsystem initialized st: Version 20040318, fixed bufsize 32768, s/g segs 256 Starting hardware detection... Searching for info file... lockd: failed to open /var/lib/nfs/state: err=-2 Driver Update: Service Pack 4 Mar 24 16:07:10 suse portmapÝ335¨: cannot bind udp: Address already in use *** Could not find the SUSE LINUX Enterprise Server 9 Installation Source. Activating manual setup program. == Has anyone seen this portmap error? Thanks. "Mike MacIsaac" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (845) 433-7061 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Using VI via Telnet to Linux on z ???
Any hints/tips on using Vi on linux running on z? I presume you should telnet instead of tn3270 but any other hints/tips? thx Lionel B. Dyck, Consultant/Specialist Enterprise Platform Services, Mainframe Engineering KP-IT Enterprise Engineering 925-926-5332 (8-473-5332) | E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: lbdyck | Yahoo IM: lbdyck Kaiser Service Credo: "Our cause is health. Our passion is service. We're here to make lives better." I never guess. It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts. - Sir Arthur Conan Doyle NOTICE TO RECIPIENT: If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are prohibited from sharing, copying, or otherwise using or disclosing its contents. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and permanently delete this e-mail and any attachments without reading, forwarding or saving them. Thank you.<>
Re: Using VI via Telnet to Linux on z ???
Hi, Lionel. Well since Linux is Linux, even when running on z, vi should work just as it does on other platforms. I would, however, strongly suggest that you consider using ssh (port 22) instead of telnet (port 23) to connect to your Linux guest. Lionel B Dyck wrote: Any hints/tips on using Vi on linux running on z? I presume you should telnet instead of tn3270 but any other hints/tips? thx Lionel B. Dyck, Consultant/Specialist Enterprise Platform Services, Mainframe Engineering KP-IT Enterprise Engineering 925-926-5332 (8-473-5332) | E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: lbdyck | Yahoo IM: lbdyck Kaiser Service Credo: "Our cause is health. Our passion is service. We're here to make lives better." I never guess. It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts. - Sir Arthur Conan Doyle NOTICE TO RECIPIENT: If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are prohibited from sharing, copying, or otherwise using or disclosing its contents. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and permanently delete this e-mail and any attachments without reading, forwarding or saving them. Thank you. -- DJ V/Soft z/VM and mainframe Linux expertise, training, consulting, and software development www.vsoft-software.com -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: SLES10 install issue
>>> On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 12:08 PM, in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jihad K Kawkabani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I had 256M defined on the new service machine. 512M fixed the problem. Please note that you won't need to _keep_ the system at that size. It's just for the install process, since you were using VNC. You should be able to drop it back down again, depending on what you're planning on running on the system. Mark Post -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Using VI via Telnet to Linux on z ???
Once you putty in, use VI or what ever you want. There is no (well very little) difference. I wouldn't recommend you use VI from the 3270 console. Tom Duerbusch THD Consulting Law of Cat Obstruction A cat must lay on the floor in such a position to obstruct the maximum amount of human foot traffic. >>> Lionel B Dyck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 3/24/2008 2:04 PM >>> Any hints/tips on using Vi on linux running on z? I presume you should telnet instead of tn3270 but any other hints/tips? thx Lionel B. Dyck, Consultant/Specialist Enterprise Platform Services, Mainframe Engineering KP-IT Enterprise Engineering 925-926-5332 (8-473-5332) | E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: lbdyck | Yahoo IM: lbdyck Kaiser Service Credo: "Our cause is health. Our passion is service. We're here to make lives better." I never guess. It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts. - Sir Arthur Conan Doyle NOTICE TO RECIPIENT: If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are prohibited from sharing, copying, or otherwise using or disclosing its contents. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and permanently delete this e-mail and any attachments without reading, forwarding or saving them. Thank you. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Using VI via Telnet to Linux on z ???
On Monday 24 March 2008 15:04, Lionel B Dyck wrote: >Any hints/tips on using Vi on linux running on z? > >I presume you should telnet instead of tn3270 but any other hints/tips? You can't use it from a 3270 console because the required cursor movement control is not in the console driver. It can't draw characters where it wants to. So use SSH or telnet to login. Once you have a remote shell, vi should work properly. If you're using telnet from a Windows system, Linux may not detect your terminal type properly. Type "echo $TERM" to see what it thinks your terminal type is. If there is no output, try doing "export TERM=vt100" before running vi. Windows will handle the VT100 cursor movement sequences. Are you having a specific problem with vi? - MacK. - Edmund R. MacKenty Software Architect Rocket Software, Inc. Newton, MA USA -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: SLES9 SP4 install problem
>>> On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 12:15 PM, in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Michael MacIsaac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello list, > > I'm trying to install SLES 9 SP4. I believe I built an install tree per > the README file on CD1 of SP4. This tree is NFS-exported and can be > mounted on another running system in the same subnet. I have a 768M > machine. > > When I use the kernel and RAMdisk from the SP4 CD1, during network setup, > the gateway cannot be pinged. Mike, I haven't tried to do a fresh install of SP4, just an upgrade. If I get some time this week, I'll give it a try. However, I know for a fact that during testing, all the various install methods are tested, so I don't think I'm going to have a problem. Either way, I'll let you know. Mark Post -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Using VI via Telnet to Linux on z ???
Thanks - my linux guy was trying to do it from tn3270 and had issues and I hadn't tried it as I don't know vi. thx Lionel B. Dyck, Consultant/Specialist Enterprise Platform Services, Mainframe Engineering KP-IT Enterprise Engineering 925-926-5332 (8-473-5332) | E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: lbdyck | Yahoo IM: lbdyck Kaiser Service Credo: "Our cause is health. Our passion is service. We're here to make lives better." I never guess. It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts. - Sir Arthur Conan Doyle NOTICE TO RECIPIENT: If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are prohibited from sharing, copying, or otherwise using or disclosing its contents. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and permanently delete this e-mail and any attachments without reading, forwarding or saving them. Thank you. From: "Edmund R. MacKenty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Date: 03/24/2008 12:23 PM Subject: Re: Using VI via Telnet to Linux on z ??? On Monday 24 March 2008 15:04, Lionel B Dyck wrote: >Any hints/tips on using Vi on linux running on z? > >I presume you should telnet instead of tn3270 but any other hints/tips? You can't use it from a 3270 console because the required cursor movement control is not in the console driver. It can't draw characters where it wants to. So use SSH or telnet to login. Once you have a remote shell, vi should work properly. If you're using telnet from a Windows system, Linux may not detect your terminal type properly. Type "echo $TERM" to see what it thinks your terminal type is. If there is no output, try doing "export TERM=vt100" before running vi. Windows will handle the VT100 cursor movement sequences. Are you having a specific problem with vi? - MacK. - Edmund R. MacKenty Software Architect Rocket Software, Inc. Newton, MA USA -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 <>
Re: Using VI via Telnet to Linux on z ???
> I wouldn't recommend you use VI from the 3270 console. Vi does have a line mode operation, but you won't like it much. The commands are based on ex, and about as hard to use as any line mode editor, but it works. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Using VI via Telnet to Linux on z ???
On Monday 24 March 2008 15:40, David Boyes wrote: >> I wouldn't recommend you use VI from the 3270 console. > >Vi does have a line mode operation, but you won't like it much. The >commands are based on ex, and about as hard to use as any line mode >editor, but it works. Or, when you're really stuck, use ed(1). Or is that for when you *want* to be really stuck? There's a story I ran across many years ago in a fortune(6) database about the creator of ed(1): --- Ken Thompson has an automobile which he helped design. Unlike most automobiles, it has neither speedometer, nor gas gauge, nor any of the numerous idiot lights which plague the modern driver. Rather, if the driver makes any mistake, a giant "?" lights up in the center of the dashboard. "The experienced driver", he says, "will usually know what's wrong." --- - MacK. - Edmund R. MacKenty Software Architect Rocket Software, Inc. Newton, MA USA -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Using VI via Telnet to Linux on z ???
Any hints/tips on using Vi on linux running on z? I presume you should telnet instead of tn3270 but any other hints/tips? It's a pretty minimalist editor, so there's not a whole lot to know, really. It's pretty much the same everywhere, and it's the only screen editor you can assume to be present on any Unix variant. Tips: 1) Make a habit of using h,j,k,l to move the cursor rather than relying on arrow keys. That works *everywhere*; arrow keys rely on whether the termcap entry is good or not. There are still some termcap entries that suck, and there are always people who believe that Windows command line windows are acceptable terminal emulators. Arrows do not work in Windows DOS windows because Windows programs them to send something completely wrong (even if you select the vt100 or xterm termcap, which are otherwise generally good). 2) The basics are ESC (exit insert), i (insert) , o (insert after this line), w (write file), q (exit), ! (imperative - do it anyway), d (delete), the motion keys mentioned in #1 (hjkl), and colon ( : ) in command mode. Vi can do a lot more, but most of the time you'll want to use something more sophisticated if you're doing anything more complicated than simple editing. These items will let you do useful things w/o causing too much grief. 3) (derivative of #2) Install something more sophisticated if you need to do more than just trivial conf file tweaking. Most of the other editors are designed to help you with tasks, and there's no point in keeping a dog and doing your own barking. What is "something more sophisticated"? That's a religious issue, and everybody has their favorite. 4) Force everyone to learn at least the basics of vi listed in #2. Inevitably there will be some reason why you can't install something better. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Question on measuring CPU Usage in Linux
Under Linux we have the command vmstat (and others) that display the CPU usage. CPU Usage is broken into four groupings totaling 100%. I understand System and User CPU usage, and Idle is available CPU. But "wa: Time waiting for IO", is this available CPU or unusable CPU? If this number is high on a system, is this a performance issue? On one of our systems, in PERFKIT we see the CPU at 99%. But we show CPU values at us: 21% sy: 5% id: 0% wa: 74%. Is the actual work being done by 26% of the CPU, and 74% CPU is unavailable waiting on I/O? Any performance suggestions? James Chaplin Systems Programmer, MVS, zVM & zLinux Base Technologies, Inc (703) 921-6220 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: cook book for Hercules
>>> On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 10:16 AM, in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Michael Prahin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi. Is there a cook book on installing zLinux (SLES 10) under Hercules > under 64 bit linux? I'm not aware of any such document. If you've already got Hercules running with other Operating Systems, doing a Linux install should be fairly straightforward. You'll need a network installation server to provide access to the installation media, and a CTC connection from the Hercules guest to the host network. Other than that, there shouldn't be anything unusual about it. Mark Post -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Question on measuring CPU Usage in Linux
The numbers reported by vmstat inside a Linux guest report on the virtual CPU usage. Unless you have attached real CPUs to a guest, they're not a good representation of real CPU utilization -- it tells you only what the division of labor is from Linux's perspective. Useful for determining whether you have an I/O hog or not, but not reflective of the actual usage of the system. If you are using Perfkit, you need to install RMFPM in the guest and configure Perfkit to accept data from it to get a better sense of what is actually going on. There are other solutions that use a different approach to correlate the VM and Linux CPU numbers (SNMP + VM accounting records), and recent mods to the Linux kernel (I think those made it into SLES 9 SP4, but don't know for certain -- they're in SLES 10 SP1) that provide more accurate VM accounting records, but I don't know if Perfkit supports them yet. Don't run RMFPM for very long; it's a real hog on it's own. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Using VI via Telnet to Linux on z ???
On Monday 24 March 2008 15:59, David Boyes wrote: >4) Force everyone to learn at least the basics of vi listed in #2. >Inevitably there will be some reason why you can't install something >better. Vi is still the "default" editor for Linux, even though the GNU project has written the "nano" editor. Weighing in at a svelte 377K when built with all features enabled under SLES 9 for z. That's far smaller than the 1.4MB vim. Links against fewer shared libraries too. It uses an "emacs-like" key mapping, and actually shows a table of common keys on-screen so you can figure out how to use it when you start it up. It uses ncurses, so it won't work on 3270 either. Unfortunately, the major distros do not seem to have picked this up. Anyone else run across nano yet? It builds out of the box under Linux on z. - MacK. - Edmund R. MacKenty Software Architect Rocket Software, Inc. Newton, MA USA -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Using VI via Telnet to Linux on z ???
> Or, when you're really stuck, use ed(1). Or is that for when you *want* > to be > really stuck? It's your foot, and your gun. Pull trigger when ready. Aiming optional. 8-) One of my favorite console sessions (redacted to protect the guilty): telnet cm2cntrl.xx.edu Connected on port 23 to cm2cntrl.xx.edu Esc character is ^] CM2 node XX; CM-Paris xx.yyy Release 1.0 Warning: Safeties are: OFF; target acquisition: nominal. > . . . (I love massively parallel hardware. 8-)). -- db -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Using VI via Telnet to Linux on z ???
I've installed and used nano at several client sites lately.works great, and the prompting helps me remember how to get at least simple editing chores done Edmund R. MacKenty wrote: On Monday 24 March 2008 15:59, David Boyes wrote: 4) Force everyone to learn at least the basics of vi listed in #2. Inevitably there will be some reason why you can't install something better. Vi is still the "default" editor for Linux, even though the GNU project has written the "nano" editor. Weighing in at a svelte 377K when built with all features enabled under SLES 9 for z. That's far smaller than the 1.4MB vim. Links against fewer shared libraries too. It uses an "emacs-like" key mapping, and actually shows a table of common keys on-screen so you can figure out how to use it when you start it up. It uses ncurses, so it won't work on 3270 either. Unfortunately, the major distros do not seem to have picked this up. Anyone else run across nano yet? It builds out of the box under Linux on z. - MacK. - Edmund R. MacKenty Software Architect Rocket Software, Inc. Newton, MA USA -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- DJ V/Soft z/VM and mainframe Linux expertise, training, consulting, and software development www.vsoft-software.com -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Using VI via Telnet to Linux on z ???
> Vi is still the "default" editor for Linux, even though the GNU project > has > written the "nano" editor. Nano is nice, but there are 47 zillion scripts that expect /bin/vi. It also fails horribly on linemode terminals, where vi just adapts and becomes a stupid 'ex' clone. There are nano packages for most of the distros; they're just not installed by default. See 'editor wars' for reason. -- db -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Using VI via Telnet to Linux on z ???
Where is a good url to get the tar file for nano you use on zLinux? Thanks, Detro Senior IT Specialist 1177 S. Belt Line Rd; Coppell, TX 75019 Internal Mail Stop: 77-01-3001O; Coppell, TX Phone: 469-549-8174 (t/l 603-8174); Fax: 469-549-8235 (t/l 603-8235) Send me an email [EMAIL PROTECTED] IBM Global Solution Center Dave Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: Linux on 390 Port 03/24/2008 03:55 PM Please respond to Linux on 390 Port To LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU cc Subject Re: Using VI via Telnet to Linux on z ??? I've installed and used nano at several client sites lately.works great, and the prompting helps me remember how to get at least simple editing chores done Edmund R. MacKenty wrote: > On Monday 24 March 2008 15:59, David Boyes wrote: >> 4) Force everyone to learn at least the basics of vi listed in #2. >> Inevitably there will be some reason why you can't install something >> better. > > Vi is still the "default" editor for Linux, even though the GNU project has > written the "nano" editor. Weighing in at a svelte 377K when built with all > features enabled under SLES 9 for z. That's far smaller than the 1.4MB vim. > Links against fewer shared libraries too. It uses an "emacs-like" key > mapping, and actually shows a table of common keys on-screen so you can > figure out how to use it when you start it up. It uses ncurses, so it won't > work on 3270 either. > > Unfortunately, the major distros do not seem to have picked this up. Anyone > else run across nano yet? It builds out of the box under Linux on z. >- MacK. > - > Edmund R. MacKenty > Software Architect > Rocket Software, Inc. > Newton, MA USA > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- DJ V/Soft z/VM and mainframe Linux expertise, training, consulting, and software development www.vsoft-software.com -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 <><>
Re: Using VI via Telnet to Linux on z ???
Gary, I get my copy from here: http://www.nano-editor.org/ DJ Gary Detro wrote: Where is a good url to get the tar file for nano you use on zLinux? Thanks, Detro Senior IT Specialist 1177 S. Belt Line Rd; Coppell, TX 75019 Internal Mail Stop: 77-01-3001O; Coppell, TX Phone: 469-549-8174 (t/l 603-8174); Fax: 469-549-8235 (t/l 603-8235) Send me an email [EMAIL PROTECTED] IBM Global Solution Center Dave Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: Linux on 390 Port 03/24/2008 03:55 PM Please respond to Linux on 390 Port To LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU cc Subject Re: Using VI via Telnet to Linux on z ??? I've installed and used nano at several client sites lately.works great, and the prompting helps me remember how to get at least simple editing chores done Edmund R. MacKenty wrote: On Monday 24 March 2008 15:59, David Boyes wrote: 4) Force everyone to learn at least the basics of vi listed in #2. Inevitably there will be some reason why you can't install something better. Vi is still the "default" editor for Linux, even though the GNU project has written the "nano" editor. Weighing in at a svelte 377K when built with all features enabled under SLES 9 for z. That's far smaller than the 1.4MB vim. Links against fewer shared libraries too. It uses an "emacs-like" key mapping, and actually shows a table of common keys on-screen so you can figure out how to use it when you start it up. It uses ncurses, so it won't work on 3270 either. Unfortunately, the major distros do not seem to have picked this up. Anyone else run across nano yet? It builds out of the box under Linux on z. - MacK. - Edmund R. MacKenty Software Architect Rocket Software, Inc. Newton, MA USA -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- DJ V/Soft z/VM and mainframe Linux expertise, training, consulting, and software development www.vsoft-software.com -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- DJ V/Soft z/VM and mainframe Linux expertise, training, consulting, and software development www.vsoft-software.com -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Weird network problem
We found this description of this problem. http://www.excentral.org/archives/2005/07/12/two-nics-one-subnet-linux-heada ches -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rich Smrcina Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 9:16 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Weird network problem Phil, Is this gateway machine having a dispatching problem? Is it running CCL? Phil Smith III wrote: > I visited a customer yesterday, and they mentioned a weird problem: > > They have a z/Linux guest that's acting as an SNA gateway for some VSE users. So it's dual-homed: a virtual NIC (vNIC) for incoming TCP/IP traffic, and a real OSA for outgoing SNA (to the VSE guest(s) -- not sure what happens there, whether one is a gateway or what). > > So this all works, BUT every so often -- like a couple of times an hour -- IP traffic to/from the gateway machine starts going over the real OSA. This seems to mean (based on observed behavior) that IP stuff originating FROM that machine works, but external stuff (say, SNMP requests) don't. It also means that their SNA users get dropped *sometimes*. > > Fooling around on the guest with ping and traceroute using -I proved to my satisfaction that this is what's happening (though of course I'm always happy to be proven wrong). > > And after a few minutes, it all goes back to normal. > > route -nNvee and with no operands seems to support that no visible routing changes are occurring. Note that when things are "switched", I can't even ping the gateway using the vNIC interface! > > It "feels like" something is deciding that the real OSA is "better" -- faster? shinier? less virtual? -- and deciding to use that, but then for some other reason switches back. But that's a SWAG. > > Ideas? Output of various commands is below. Oh, one other thing: I've never seen some of the output from Q V OSA below (the INP + 01 stuff). But then, I'm not used to fooling with real OSAs attached to guests. I didn't see anything about this output in the HELP file for QUERY VIRTUAL OSA. > > Thanks... > > ...phsiii -- Rich Smrcina VM Assist, Inc. Phone: 414-491-6001 Ans Service: 360-715-2467 rich.smrcina at vmassist.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/richsmrcina Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2008 - Chattanooga - April 18-22, 2008 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Question on measuring CPU Usage in Linux
>>> On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 4:04 PM, in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "CHAPLIN, JAMES (CTR)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Under Linux we have the command vmstat (and others) that display the CPU > usage. What version of what distribution do you have? Anything prior to SLES10 and RHEL5, the data from inside the guest is pretty much meaningless. Mark Post -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Using VI via Telnet to Linux on z ???
Hello! For my part, I prefer the VIM variant of the classic VI editor. However since Slackware on Intel does have emacs I've used that. Also the edit function of the MC thingie. Just how peculiar can the termcap entries on Linux be? -- Gregg C Levine [EMAIL PROTECTED] "The Force will be with you always." Obi-Wan Kenobi > -Original Message- > From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David > Boyes > Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 4:51 PM > To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU > Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] Using VI via Telnet to Linux on z ??? > > > Or, when you're really stuck, use ed(1). Or is that for when you > *want* > > to be > > really stuck? > > It's your foot, and your gun. Pull trigger when ready. Aiming optional. > 8-) > > One of my favorite console sessions (redacted to protect the guilty): > > telnet cm2cntrl.xx.edu > Connected on port 23 to cm2cntrl.xx.edu > Esc character is ^] > > CM2 node XX; CM-Paris xx.yyy Release 1.0 > > Warning: Safeties are: OFF; target acquisition: nominal. > > > . > . > . > > (I love massively parallel hardware. 8-)). > > -- db > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or > visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: cook book for Hercules
I sent one to the Hercules group a while back to do a 64b centos install under windows. Maybe there's something there that might be of use? i -- Original Message -- Received: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 02:17:37 PM GMT From: Michael Prahin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: cook book for Hercules > Hi. Is there a cook book on installing zLinux (SLES 10) under Hercules > under 64 bit linux? > > Mike > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Using VI via Telnet to Linux on z ???
On Mar 24, 2008, at 3:50 PM, Edmund R. MacKenty wrote: On Monday 24 March 2008 15:59, David Boyes wrote: 4) Force everyone to learn at least the basics of vi listed in #2. Inevitably there will be some reason why you can't install something better. Vi is still the "default" editor for Linux, even though the GNU project has written the "nano" editor. Weighing in at a svelte 377K when built with all features enabled under SLES 9 for z. That's far smaller than the 1.4MB vim. Links against fewer shared libraries too. It uses an "emacs-like" key mapping, and actually shows a table of common keys on-screen so you can figure out how to use it when you start it up. It uses ncurses, so it won't work on 3270 either. Unfortunately, the major distros do not seem to have picked this up. Anyone else run across nano yet? It builds out of the box under Linux on z. - MacK. It's the default editor on Debian. it is a clone of pico, and it might be findable under that name on some distros. Adam -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
