Linux-Misc Digest #367

2000-08-07 Thread Digestifier

Linux-Misc Digest #367, Volume #25Mon, 7 Aug 00 02:13:02 EDT

Contents:
  Re: rsh and password (David Steuber)
  mp3 normalizer for Linux? (Erik Max Francis)
  RE: Animations in Gimp ("Miguel Martínez")
  Re: sending fax (Gary Carlson)
  /usr/lib/python1.5/config not found in Redhat6.2 (Sam Wun)
  Re: ADSL with Suse 6.2
  Re: Adabas ("John E. Garrott Sr")
  ipconfig /renew on Linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Almost Lost New Hard Drive After Linux Install (Michel Catudal)
  Re: Netscape 4.72 on Suse 6.4: close window aborts instead of closes (Michel Catudal)
  Re: Should I build up an athlon box or buy an Imac DV? (Mary P)
  Re: UDMA IDE Drive stops network transfers (Duane)
  Re: ipconfig /renew on Linux (Akira Yamanita)
  Something OTHER than a getty on a vterm (Fester)
  Re: Something OTHER than a getty on a vterm (Dances With Crows)
  RedHat 6.1 and networking (Photon85)
  Re: Something OTHER than a getty on a vterm (Fester)
  Re: ipconfig /renew on Linux (Hal Burgiss)
  Recording on the sound card on console ? (Pedro Duarte)
  Re: Something OTHER than a getty on a vterm (Cameron Hutchison)
  Re: Something OTHER than a getty on a vterm (B'ichela)



Subject: Re: rsh and password
From: David Steuber [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2000 00:00:03 GMT

"Andrew N. McGuire " [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

' ^^ I think I've got the answer to that question though.  Unfortunatly, I
' ^^ won't be able to test it until apostrophe has been relocated.  It is
' ^^ not a major deal though.  XEmacs has a -nw flag that allows it to run
' ^^ in my xterm.  I still use the mouse a bit though :-(.
' 
' IIRC you can also use the -t flag.  Or of course you could use
' vi^H^Hvim.

I use vim for quick and dirty edits.  It certainly loads faster.  But
I have not mastered it, so I am very clumsy when it comes to serious
text editing.  For that, I use XEmacs.  It's not much of an excuse,
but there you go.

My system has *both* text editors ;-).

-- 
David Steuber   |   Hi!  My name is David Steuber, and I am
NRA Member  |   a hoploholic.
http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionaryva=hoplitesubmit=Look+it+up

The problem with AI is that it has a mind of its own
--- Devon Miller

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From: Erik Max Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: mp3 normalizer for Linux?
Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2000 17:03:40 -0700

Anyone know of a Linux application that can normalize the volumes on a
large collection of preexisting mp3s?  These are preexisting mp3s, so if
they normalize while they're first ripping/compressing that won't do the
job; although, one which can do the job _in addition_ to
ripping/compressing would be just fine.  (None of the ripping programs I
looked at which supported some kind of normalizing seemed to be able to
separate the functionality.)

Thanks.

-- 
 Erik Max Francis / [EMAIL PROTECTED] / http://www.alcyone.com/max/
 __ San Jose, CA, US / 37 20 N 121 53 W / ICQ16063900 / tSftDotIotE
/  \ The work of many cannot be done alone.
\__/ (a Bemba proverb)
Kepler's laws / http://www.alcyone.com/max/physics/kepler/
 A proof of Kepler's laws.

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From: "Miguel Martínez" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Animations in Gimp
Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2000 00:20:31 GMT


Robert J Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió en el mensaje de
noticias 6Qij5.131302$[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 I have a friend who is driving herself around the wall trying to figure
 out how to to animations in gimp.

 Any pointers would be appreciated :-)


Take a look at this: http://jimmac.musichall.cz/tutor.php3



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From: Gary Carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.caldera
Subject: Re: sending fax
Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2000 00:46:18 GMT

In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
  Daniel Bechard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 How can I send fax with Open Linux 2.4

Easiest way for single operator machine... get efax by Ed Casas.

Most versitile, especially for multiuser system... mgetty. Should have
come on distro CD... came with 2.3 anyway.

--
Gary Carlson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: Sam Wun [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: /usr/lib/python1.5/config not found in Redhat6.2
Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2000 11:42:53 +1000

I have python1.5.2 installed in my Redhad 6.2 machine wht the following
lib path:
/usr/lib/python1.5
but there is no /usr/lib/python1.5/config directory in the directory. So
when I tried to install DCOracle,
it complained that /usr/lib/python1.5/config not found.

Does any one know how to fix this problem? I have tried to re-installed
python1.5.2, but it doesn't generate
the config file for me.

Thanks
Sam.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: ADSL with Suse 6.2
Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2000 02:22:29 GMT

Volker K?ster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 

Linux-Misc Digest #368

2000-08-07 Thread Digestifier

Linux-Misc Digest #368, Volume #25Mon, 7 Aug 00 04:13:02 EDT

Contents:
  Re: color display (David Efflandt)
  Re: RedHat 6.1 and networking (Shawn Smith)
  Re: CD Writing Software (Neville Cobb)
  Re: Operating systems for personal-computers? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Grub/Lilo - How do you start with GRUB? (Neville Cobb)
  Re: What do you mean by this? (David Efflandt)
  Re: UDMA IDE Drive stops network transfers (Kenneth Rørvik)
  Re: Changing LILO in Mandrake? (Tim Palmer)
  Re: Something OTHER than a getty on a vterm (Fester)
  Re: Something OTHER than a getty on a vterm (Floyd Davidson)



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Subject: Re: color display
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 06:12:23 + (UTC)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Sun, 06 Aug 2000 05:30:03 GMT, jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
hi im using slakware 7 currently. my video card is S3 Trio64 with 2 mb 
memory. i was wondering how i can start x window straight away to 16 bit 
color without typing startx -- -bpp 16 in the command line. thanks for 
helping.

My XF86Config in part is like this.  The alternate 800x600 mode can be
switched to with Ctrl-Alt-keypad_plus for webweinies who use tiny fonts to
compensate for the jumbo MSIE fonts:

# The accel server
Section "Screen"
Driver  "accel"
Device  "S3 Trio64 (generic)"
Monitor "Panasonic SL70"

Subsection "Display"
Depth   16
Modes   "1024x768" "800x600"
ViewPort0 0
EndSubsection
EndSection


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David Efflandt  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://www.de-srv.com/
http://www.autox.chicago.il.us/  http://www.berniesfloral.net/
http://hammer.prohosting.com/~cgi-wiz/  http://cgi-help.virtualave.net/


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Shawn Smith)
Subject: Re: RedHat 6.1 and networking
Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2000 06:15:26 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On 07 Aug 2000 03:52:46 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Photon85) wrote:

Hello all.  (Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] rather than the from
address on this message)

I am running Red Hat 6.2 with Linux 2.4.0-test1.  I first set up this system at
college, and so I was able to set up networking by givining the Red Hat
installer all the appropriate networking information (hostname, IP addresses,
etc.).  However, since I am changing rooms at college next year, I will need to
change some of this networking information.  I decided to try changing this
information on my system now, just to see what would happen, and a friend of
mine recommended I use linuxconf to do so.  After changing the hostname and IP
address to dummy test values (these two pieces of information will be the only
ones to change when I get to school), I told linuxconf to "activate new
changes" and then I quit.  After rebooting my system, the system seemed to hang
upon reaching the System Logger step in the initialization sequence.  I
rebooted again and used the "linux single" prompt to gain access to an
emergency recovery shell, and I again ran linuxconf, this time disabling the
ethernet adapter device (but leaving the dummy information there).  Rebooting
again let me use my system again, except that now I have no network support at
all.  I have tried restoring the networking information to what it had been
before, but that doesn't help.

Does anyone know why this happened, and what I should do to fix it?  I know
that reinstalling linux will fix the problem, but of course I don't want to do
that just because my hostname might change.

Don't reinstall, this happend to me and I fixed it easy.

Red Hat's 5.2 Install Guide page 348 Support FAQ covers this problem.

Long story short edit your hosts file to be simillar to this:

127.0.0.1   localhost localhost.localdomain
192.168.10.10   shawn shawn.smith.com


Also, I was wondering how to upgrade my Red Hat installation.  Do I just boot
off a RedHat CD of whatever version I want, and then follow through as though I
were installing it for the first time?  Will doing this leave my home directory
files and kernel upgrades in place?

Should give an upgrade option that will save your files.




All the best,
Shawn Smith  !UNT Proud!
My Resume http://sites.netscape.net/shawnspad/shawn_smith_resume.htm
My freeware: http://sites.netscape.net/shawnspad 



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From: Neville Cobb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: CD Writing Software
Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2000 16:18:24 +1000

Bob

As far as I know, XCDRoast is a front end for the other two. Most
distributions come with cdrecord and paranoia already installed and all you
need to do is run xcdroast, this is so with Mandrake 7. Another good front
end is gtoaster.  Start from http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/ this
site has a tutorial on how to burn CDs.

Nev


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello all,

 I just want to know what software I'll need to record with my cd writer.
 There seems 

Linux-Misc Digest #369

2000-08-07 Thread Digestifier

Linux-Misc Digest #369, Volume #25Mon, 7 Aug 00 10:13:04 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Something OTHER than a getty on a vterm (Floyd Davidson)
  How to get Video in/ out (on GeForce) working ? ("Smelly Cat")
  Re: kde 2.0 beta 3 (muzh)
  Xdefaults (Ron Nicholls)
  Re: Xdefaults (Andreas Kahari)
  Re: Something OTHER than a getty on a vterm (Cameron Hutchison)
  Re: Modem doesn't work (and it's not a WinModem) (M. Buchenrieder)
  Re: Need XF86Config for Tecra 8100 (Heinz Rohde)
  Re: Modem Lights App for Windoze? (Robert Heller)
  Re: Something OTHER than a getty on a vterm (Floyd Davidson)
  Server names for fetchmail? (Mihaly Gyulai)
  Re: sending fax (LFessen106)
  Re: mounting ide-scsi device (mjbeasley)
  Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (Phillip Lord)
  Re: Changing LILO in Mandrake? (John Hasler)
  Scripting the keystrokes in X? (Andrew Purugganan)
  OT: PNP OS? (Re: Modem doesn't work (and it's not a WinModem)) ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Mouse problems in linux (Geoff Short)
  How to change a ro mounted disk to rw? (Ted Sariyski)
  Re: Something OTHER than a getty on a vterm (Geoff Short)
  Help burning CDR (iso) image (pdlamb)
  Re: Mouse problems in linux (Andreas Kahari)
  icons on virtual desktops ("JR")
  Re: Size of /var/lib/rpm - why so big? (Vlar Schreidlocke)



From: Floyd Davidson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Something OTHER than a getty on a vterm
Date: 06 Aug 2000 23:48:00 -0800

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (B'ichela) wrote:
Fester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Et Cetera... what I want to do is run something OTHER than mingetty on
tty1. Specifically top, so that when I press CTRL-ALT-F1, I see top
running, and can use it without providing a user/pass and manually running
it. I tried:

1:2345:respawn:/usr/bin/top

   if you want top. try this line. its Ugly but it will work. For
this I will use tty4 as its a good idea to leave tty1 alone.

Good advice.

top /dev/tty4 /dev/tty4 21 
If you want to put this in your inittab the following hack should work
4:2345:respawn:top /dev/tty4 /dev/tty4 21
   I learned of the fancy 21 from a unix book. heres a summary
of what the redirectors mean
/dev/tty4   #send standard output to /dev/tty4
/dev/tty4   #get standard input from /dev/tty4
21#send standard error to the same place standard output
 goes /dev/tty4

All good!

   Only problem is. anyone who goes to /dev/tty4, even non root
can raise hell by killing anyones processes they want! as /dev/tty4
will be running a program with the effective UID of ROOT!

Good point.  The solution is to run it in secure mode, with the
's' option,

  4:2345:respawn:top s /dev/tty4 /dev/tty4 21

which will disable dangerous interactive commands such as the
'k' command to kill processes.

Another way to obtain the same effect is with a global init
file, /etc/toprc, which is described in the man page for top.
In any case it is nice to configure the top display as desired
and then write that configuration to ~/.toprc with the
interactive W command while in top.  The configuration of course
will be for the root user, and whatever is written will be the
default for root.

  Floyd

-- 
Floyd L. Davidson  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska)

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From: "Smelly Cat" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: How to get Video in/ out (on GeForce) working ?
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 20:32:11 +1200

So 
Anybody know how to get video in / out working in linux ? I have an ASUS
v6600 (GeForce 256) Deluxe and would like to get the video in working ...
but how and where to start. I have checked around and found NOTHING !

-So if Anybody could help or if you with to add something ... post it !

(specs : Athlon 750 / Asus GeForce / etc )




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From: muzh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: kde 2.0 beta 3
Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2000 20:48:07 +1200

Daniel Bechard wrote:
 
 I download a bunch of files (kde 2.0 beta 3) for exemple
 kdepim2-1-92-1.src.rpm
 When I tried to install this file with package it did not seem to work
 Is there something I have to do beside using package to uptade the kde
 files?
 
 Thanks

Looks like source-RPM's to me.
You still have to compile it.
Src.rpm files usually put themselves in /usr/src/packages/SOURCES (or
something similar)
Enter the appropriate directory, tar -xzvf if necessary then read any
README or INSTALL files you find.  They will tell  you how to proceed
further.

-- 
Never trust a man in a suit --
cll

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From: Ron Nicholls [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Xdefaults
Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2000 19:03:39 -1000

Although I have configured gnome from the defaults, I don't have an
Xdefaults file in my home directory. I do have one in root.

So how can I have modified my home desktop and not produced an Xdefaults
file.

-- 
-
-
Regards RonN

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Subject: Re: Xdefaults
From: 

Linux-Misc Digest #370

2000-08-07 Thread Digestifier

Linux-Misc Digest #370, Volume #25Mon, 7 Aug 00 13:13:02 EDT

Contents:
  Re: How to change a ro mounted disk to rw? (Nicolas Iselin)
  Re: Help burning CDR (iso) image (Dances With Crows)
  Re: How to change a ro mounted disk to rw? (Dances With Crows)
  Re: sending Fax (Fabian Gebhardt)
  Re: Modem Lights App for Windoze? (Fabian Gebhardt)
  Re: Size of /var/lib/rpm - why so big? (Dave Brown)
  Re: mp3 normalizer for Linux? (Mike Castle)
  Re: VNC and my proxy
  Re: Almost Lost New Hard Drive After Linux Install (Svend Olaf Mikkelsen)
  Re: Backup /usr files (permissions?), repartition, restore?
  Re: Linux sees only 64 M of RAM ???
  Re: Linux sees only 64 M of RAM ??? (Dances With Crows)
  Re: Almost Lost New Hard Drive After Linux Install (Bob Hauck)
  Re: Linux sees only 64 M of RAM ??? (Bob Hauck)
  Booting linux from ZIP (Antonio =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9=20Ant=F3n?=)
  linneighborhood (alikbm)
  Intel Etherexpress Pro/10+ ISA problem (Stephen Britton)
  /usr/sbin/nscd  (David Steuber)
  Re: UDMA IDE Drive stops network transfers (David Steuber)
  Re: UDMA IDE Drive stops network transfers (David Steuber)



From: Nicolas Iselin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: How to change a ro mounted disk to rw?
Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2000 16:12:44 +0200

Ted Sariyski wrote:
 
 Hi,How to change a ro mounted disk to rw?

First of all, this is what your system does everytime it boots. It
first mounts your root filesystem read-only, performs some checks
and then remounts it rw.

There is an option to mount that is used for unmounting and mounting
in one step (remount). I just say: RTFM/man mount.

 
 I posted this two days ago but did not get any answer. This a last cry
 for help before going to rebuild the system. 

Don't !!!

 I messed with the
 /etc/fstab and put /dev/hda1 instead of /dev/sda1. At boot time the
 system looks for an non-existing device and throw me up in a rescue mode
 with /dev/sda1 mounted under / as read-only. If I am able to mount
 /dev/sda1 as read-write I will be able to correct the typo in /etc/fstab
 and it will save me a lot of time. The problem is that I do not know how
 to do this. I am unable to umount /dev/sda1. 

If you would successfully umount your root filesystem, where would you 
take take the mount command from ??? ;-)

 When I submit "umount
 /dev/sda1" the system doesn't complain but do nothing. I am stuck. Is
 there a way to change the mode of a mounted file system from ro to rw. I
 will highly appreciate any help, hint, points to howto, etc.

The second solution can help you in the future whenever there is a problem
booting: Download the tomsrtbt 'Linux on one floppy' from www.toms.net.
Boot this floppy and then mount the partition in question manually (i.e.
without using /etc/fstab, again just read the full manpage to mount) vi 
fstab and there you are. 

Good luck

Nicolas

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Help burning CDR (iso) image
Date: 7 Aug 2000 14:17:51 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Mon, 07 Aug 2000 08:21:02 -0500, pdlamb wrote:
I need some help burning an image to a CD.  I haven't been able to burn
it with cdrecord, using a command line like 'cdrecord speed=4 dev=0,0,0
-v pinstripe-powertools-i386.iso' -- makes the best coaster you've ever
seen!  I've had my best luck mastering and burning images with xcdroast,
but I can't figure out how to specify an image file.

How did you make the .iso file in the first place?  And can you check
the .iso using the loopback, like so?
  mount -t iso9660 file.iso /mnt/other -o loop,ro
should mount the .iso on /mnt/other --if it coughs up error messages
unrelated to the lack of loopback support in your kernel (Put it in!) or
the nonexistence of /mnt/other (mkdir it), then the .iso file is more
than likely corrupt.  To make an .iso file out of a data CD, just do:
  dd if=/dev/cdrom of=file.iso bs=2k

xcdroast is a frontend to cdrecord and mkisofs--nothing more, nothing
less.  What works in xcdroast *must* work in cdrecord.  Does cdrecord
cough up any errors while burning?

-- 
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin /   Tyranny is always better organized
http://www.brainbench.com /than freedom.
=/  ==Charles Peguy

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: How to change a ro mounted disk to rw?
Date: 7 Aug 2000 14:19:26 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Mon, 07 Aug 2000 09:19:13 -0400, Ted Sariyski wrote:
I posted this two days ago but did not get any answer. This a last cry
for help before going to rebuild the system. I messed with the
/etc/fstab and put /dev/hda1 instead of /dev/sda1. At boot time the
system looks for an non-existing device and throw me 

Linux-Misc Digest #371

2000-08-07 Thread Digestifier

Linux-Misc Digest #371, Volume #25Mon, 7 Aug 00 14:13:04 EDT

Contents:
  Re: UDMA IDE Drive stops network transfers (Stewart Honsberger)
  Re: OT: PNP OS? (Re: Modem doesn't work (and it's not a WinModem)) ("Stuart D. 
Gathman")
  Re: Almost Lost New Hard Drive After Linux Install (Stewart Honsberger)
  psychology of linux (shawn)
  Re: /usr/sbin/nscd (brian moore)
  Re: kde 2.0 beta 3 (sfcybear)
  Re: Recording on the sound card on console ? (Dave Phillips)
  **Something For Sale You Want** (N/A)
  Re: psychology of linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Modem Lights App for Windoze? ("Gavin")
  Linux 6.2 Login problem ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: reinstalling LILO (Simon Lemieux)
  Re: ADSL with Suse 6.2 (blowfish)
  Re: Problems with Belkin OmniView Switch box ? (blowfish)



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stewart Honsberger)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: UDMA IDE Drive stops network transfers
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2000 17:12:23 GMT

On Sun, 06 Aug 2000 19:31:28 -0700, Duane wrote:
 In `make menuconfig' there is a `Use DMA by default when available'
 option under `block devices'.  I've got it turned on.  Is there
 something else I have to do, or are IDE drives just fundamentally
 screwed up this way.  I hate the idea of disk access bringing other io
 and perhaps even the CPU to a halt.  I can't afford to install the
 equivalent amount of SCSI disk.

To see how (or whether) DMA is operating, have you tried hdparm?
http://www.linuxnewbie.org/nhf/intel/hardware/hdtweak.html

I just tried it on my drives, both UDMA 33, and got the following results;

blackdeath:~ # hdparm -tT /dev/hda

/dev/hda:
 Timing buffer-cache reads:   128 MB in  2.69 seconds = 47.58 MB/sec
 Timing buffered disk reads:  64 MB in  4.73 seconds = 13.53 MB/sec
blackdeath:~ # hdparm -tT /dev/hdb

/dev/hdb:
 Timing buffer-cache reads:   128 MB in  2.55 seconds = 50.20 MB/sec
 Timing buffered disk reads:  64 MB in  7.78 seconds =  8.23 MB/sec
blackdeath:~ # hdparm -d /dev/hdb

using_dma was enabled for both drives but not 32 bit I/O support. I enabled
it on both drives and didn't really get any speed increase, except the cache
reads on hdb have improved by about 5MB/sec.

Are these speeds typical of UDMA33 equipment (as measured by hdparm)?

-- 
Stewart Honsberger (AKA Blackdeath) @ http://tinys.cx/blackdeath
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  (Remove 'thirteen' to reply privately)
Humming along under SuSE 6.4, Linux 2.4.0-test5

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From: "Stuart D. Gathman" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: OT: PNP OS? (Re: Modem doesn't work (and it's not a WinModem))
Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2000 13:01:33 -0400

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 In alt.linux M. Buchenrieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 : Linux isn't a PNP OS. You'll have to use the isapnptools for this
 : modem card to have it recognized in Linux. BTW, you'll have to disable
 : your COM2 port in the system's CMOS if you want the modem to be on
 : /dev/ttyS1 , otherwise you'll get a HW conflict.
 
 Interesting...
 
 So if isapnp is developed for linux, and even incorporated into the kernel,
 and if linux works with PCI -- when is linux considered a PNP OS?  Is it
 there now, or does the isapnp part have to be a little more automatic? (AFAIK
 you still have to generate and edit an isapnp.conf file, a task which is
 not "plugging" and definitely not "playing")

PCI and VLB plug and play features works fine with Linux - and even with
Win9x.  ISA PnP has never, in our experience, been plug and play for any
OS.  Every single ISA PnP card (dozens since the "standard" was
introduced) we have installed produced an all day configuration
nightmare under Win95.  "Plug and pray" is truly a better name.  

A much more useful standard would have been a universal protocol for
setting virtual jumpers on jumperless cards - including virtual labels
in ROM.  This would avoid tracking special config diskettes for each
kind of jumperless ISA.  It would have made manually configuring
jumperless cards pleasant - and formed a solid basis for developing a
PnP protocol that actually worked.  (Walk before you run.)

ISA cards work best with nice jumpers - preferably real hardware jumpers
with nice screened labels by the jumpers (since the manual will probably
get lost).  It's a plus if it uses DIP switches visible from the back of
the PC without removing the card.  I hate trying to find the config
diskette for a jumperless card.  If you want PnP, use a real PnP bus:
MCA, PCI, VLB, S390 channel :-)

The only thing worse than ISA PnP are jumperless ISA cards with a Win9x
only config program.  We got sold one of those on a machine certified as
"OS/2 ready".  Go figure . . .  (Most jumperless ISA cards use a DOS
config program - tolerable if you can keep track of the diskette.  I
recommend keeping a compressed diskette image on disk for such cards.)

-- 
Stuart D. Gathman 

Linux-Misc Digest #372

2000-08-07 Thread Digestifier

Linux-Misc Digest #372, Volume #25Mon, 7 Aug 00 15:13:02 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Booting linux from ZIP (Robert Wiegand)
  reclaiming the master boot record? (Peter Bismuti)
  Sound applications? (Simon Lemieux)
  Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (blowfish)
  Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (blowfish)
  Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (blowfish)
  Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (blowfish)
  Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (blowfish)
  Re: Sound applications? (Stephen Hui)
  Installing Linux after Windows 2000 Pro ? (John Robson)
  Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (blowfish)
  Re: Sound applications? (E J)
  Re: UDMA IDE Drive stops network transfers (Dances With Crows)
  Help with Printer (Paul Koch)
  Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (blowfish)



From: Robert Wiegand [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Booting linux from ZIP
Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2000 12:48:25 -0500

Antonio José Antón wrote:

 When I reboot the computer, the ZIP drive blinks the LED (I suposse it
 is trying to load boot sector) and then BIOS shows the message "INSERT
 BOOT DISK".

 Is there any problem with LILO in ZIP drives?

I think this is a BIOS problem, not a LILO problem.

Your computer BIOS doesn't see the Zip disk as a bootable drive.
Check your BIOS settings.

-- 
Regards,
Bob Wiegand   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

--

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Bismuti)
Subject: reclaiming the master boot record?
Date: 7 Aug 2000 18:07:25 GMT

I tried running lilo as root and my machine still wants to boot into
Win98.  Apparently I wrote over more than the MBR. 

What can I do now if anything?

Thanks

--

From: Simon Lemieux [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Sound applications?
Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2000 18:12:01 GMT

Hi,
I was wondering if you knew some free sound application for recording sounds
from a micro?  for distorting sounds, etc...

I'm using RedHat6.1...

Thanks,
Simon

--

From: blowfish [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: ..
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2000 11:19:40 -0700

Zebee Johnstone wrote:
 
 In comp.os.linux.setup on Fri, 04 Aug 2000 17:17:24 -0700
 blowfish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Zebee Johnstone wrote:
 
  Here, you deduct it from your taxable income, not the tax you pay.
 
 So.  If you can deduct it from your taxable income, you're than paying
 less tax. Isn't it? Mate!?
 
 
 Which isn't what you said.  You said that the money went either to the
 software company or the taxman.
 
Gosh!

If you pay the money to the software company, and, as a result, you can
pay less tax.
Isn't that you still end up paying less?

 Clearly only half (at a marginal rate of 50%) goes to the taxman.
 
Then, deduct the other half as business loss. Talk to your tax
accountant/bean counter.

 And if company tax is lower - in some places it may be as low as 30% -
 then the reward for buying and tax-deducting is not attractive.
 
Put it on business loss.

Find a good accountant.

I am not an accountant. Or tax consultant. But business loss is legit
deduction.

 BIg companies have been pirating for years.   I've worked for several
 and a lot of software was dodgy.  Wasn't until FASA started getting
 real aggro and knocking off people like MLC Insurance that they
 tightened up.
 
Take Boeing as an example.  If they go the free software route, they can
save millions in software costs, but they decided against it, because
it's not practical for such a big international corp to switch
everything, tens of thousands of employees in numourous countries, and,
the trainning costs and time loss will far outcosted the cost saving in
free software.

Most GNU-GPL stuff are fits for those college geeks with too much free
time on their hands. In the business world, time is money.
 
 However, small business and home users are not peanuts in the software
 world.  If they were, places like OfficeWorks wouldn't be selling
 software.
 
No, I'm not saying home users and small biz are peanuts. But NOT
everybody has the knowledge, and time to tinker.

 Zebee

-- 
- Alex / blowfish.(Have Fun with geek's culture: Part-1.)
--
- If Vi is God's editor. Then, God must have too much free time on his
hands,
  lives a very dull and unproductive life; so he needs Vi to waste his
time.
  But Vi was still too fast. So God created EMACS on the 8th day - which
takes
  Eight Months to load, And Counting Still...
- The UN-GEEK CODE:(?What is a
geek?)-#!?+++??|$+?+++???+++---
  geek + vi | ~/emacs
==ZZzzz!!...:P~
  newbies + Windoz | C:\LOOKOUT
EXPRESS==_the_horrors_the_hooORs!!! :-|
- My SAS (Sing-A-Song) Fingerprint -v.i007.bond: Doe1(-a deer, a female
deer.) RaY2(- a 

Linux-Misc Digest #373

2000-08-07 Thread Digestifier

Linux-Misc Digest #373, Volume #25Mon, 7 Aug 00 16:13:03 EDT

Contents:
  Re: reinstalling LILO (Dances With Crows)
  Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (Robert Krawitz)
  Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (Robert Krawitz)
  Re: Installing Linux after Windows 2000 Pro ?
  taskbar disappearing under gnome (Matt)
  Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (blowfish)
  Re: Almost Lost New Hard Drive After Linux Install (Svend Olaf Mikkelsen)
  reclaiming master boo block? (Peter Bismuti)
  Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (blowfish)
  Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (blowfish)
  xv bugs (Neil Zanella)
  Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (blowfish)



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: reinstalling LILO
Date: 7 Aug 2000 19:17:30 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Mon, 07 Aug 2000 17:51:52 GMT, Simon Lemieux wrote:
A boot floppy heh? Damn! I don't even have a floppy drive!  Is it
possible to make an image of that floppy and write it to a bootable CD
to transform that bootable floppy into a bootable CD?
Can I make an .ISO image of a floppy disk?

http://www.linuxcare.com/bootable_cd/download.epl

It looks *very* nifty, and provides all kinds of useful rescue/recovery
tools.  Or you could make an El Torito bootable CD if you have a disk
around.  Check the man page for mkisofs, paying attention to the -b and
-c options.  If you have a bootable Linux floppy image file, then you'd
call mkisofs like so:
mkisofs -r -b boot.img -c boot.catalog -o output.iso
/path/to/rest/of/files/you/want/to/put/on/CD
then burn output.iso to CD with cdrecord in the usual manner.

-- 
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin /   Tyranny is always better organized
http://www.brainbench.com /than freedom.
=/  ==Charles Peguy

--

From: Robert Krawitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: 07 Aug 2000 15:32:52 -0400

blowfish [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Zebee Johnstone wrote:

  Which isn't what you said.  You said that the money went either to the
  software company or the taxman.
  
 Gosh!
 
 If you pay the money to the software company, and, as a result, you can
 pay less tax.
 Isn't that you still end up paying less?

Yes, but you still pay more than zero.

  Clearly only half (at a marginal rate of 50%) goes to the taxman.
  
 Then, deduct the other half as business loss. Talk to your tax
 accountant/bean counter.

Well, not quite.  As a business expense, it has already been taken out
of your income.  You can't (legally) deduct it twice.

 Take Boeing as an example.  If they go the free software route, they can
 save millions in software costs, but they decided against it, because
 it's not practical for such a big international corp to switch
 everything, tens of thousands of employees in numourous countries, and,
 the trainning costs and time loss will far outcosted the cost saving in
 free software.

That's quite a different issue.
-- 
Robert Krawitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://www.tiac.net/users/rlk/

Tall Clubs International  --  http://www.tall.org/ or 1-888-IM-TALL-2
Member of the League for Programming Freedom -- mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Project lead for The Gimp Print --  http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net

"Linux doesn't dictate how I work, I dictate how Linux works."
--Eric Crampton

--

From: Robert Krawitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: 07 Aug 2000 15:35:43 -0400

blowfish [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Also. You did contradicted your own idea of *free software*, as you have
 taken the money from Debian as a reward.
 
 Isn't that your codes should be *FREE* as in money - free, unlike
 non-GNU-GPL codes-which costs money, as in *FREE BEER* too!?

No, "free" as in "free software" only refers to "free speech"
(liberty), not "free beer".  It's perfectly legal to sell GPL'ed
software for whatever the market will bear.  The only thing the seller
has to do is provide the source code, and not restrict further
distribution beyond what the GPL specifies.

-- 
Robert Krawitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://www.tiac.net/users/rlk/

Tall Clubs International  --  http://www.tall.org/ or 1-888-IM-TALL-2
Member of the League for Programming Freedom -- mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Project lead for The Gimp Print --  http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net

"Linux doesn't dictate how I work, I dictate how Linux works."
--Eric Crampton

--

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Installing Linux after Windows 2000 Pro ?
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 15:28:17 -0400

The only thing to worry about is the size of the disk : 30 gig.

If you want w2k Pro  linux to dual boot, 

Linux-Misc Digest #374

2000-08-07 Thread Digestifier

Linux-Misc Digest #374, Volume #25Mon, 7 Aug 00 17:13:04 EDT

Contents:
  Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (blowfish)
  Re: Problems with Belkin OmniView Switch box ? (Robert Surenko)
  Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (blowfish)
  Re: Size of /var/lib/rpm - why so big? (Stewart Honsberger)
  Re: Size of /var/lib/rpm - why so big? (Vlar Schreidlocke)
  Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (blowfish)
  Re: reclaiming the master boot record? (Akira Yamanita)
  Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (blowfish)
  Re: MySQL vs PostgreSQL which is newbie friendlier? (blowfish)
  Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (Johan Kullstam)
  Re: Size of /var/lib/rpm - why so big? (Bill Unruh)
  Re: /usr/sbin/nscd (John Hasler)



From: blowfish [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: ..
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2000 13:09:46 -0700

Phillip Lord wrote:
 
  "blowfish" == blowfish  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
   blowfish If you try to set up a booth right outside of 10, Downing
   blowfish Street to sell stolen property. I'm sure Tony will have a
   blowfish few choiced words with you, and have you escorted away by
   blowfish Bobbies. ;-)
 
 Well Tony already did this inside number 10. The racism and
 bigotry he stole from Thatcher, the complete absence of any real
 policies from Major. The "third way" rhetoric may not be stolen, but
 as he appears to have found up his ass, I am not sure that this is
 anything to boast about.
 
Yeah, sure.  But ?who? put Tony in office? ;-)

Same here with Billy. ;-)

 Phil

-- 
- Alex / blowfish.(Have Fun with geek's culture: Part-1.)
--
- If Vi is God's editor. Then, God must have too much free time on his
hands,
  lives a very dull and unproductive life; so he needs Vi to waste his
time.
  But Vi was still too fast. So God created EMACS on the 8th day - which
takes
  Eight Months to load, And Counting Still...
- The UN-GEEK CODE:(?What is a
geek?)-#!?+++??|$+?+++???+++---
  geek + vi | ~/emacs
==ZZzzz!!...:P~
  newbies + Windoz | C:\LOOKOUT
EXPRESS==_the_horrors_the_hooORs!!! :-|
- My SAS (Sing-A-Song) Fingerprint -v.i007.bond: Doe1(-a deer, a female
deer.) RaY2(- a drop of golden sun.)
  Me3(- A name, I call myself.) FAr4(- A long, long way to run.) Sew5(-A
needle pulling thread.)
  lA6(-A note to follow sew.) TeA7(-A drink with jam and bread.) That
will bring us back to DOe-oh-oh-oh...

--

From: Robert Surenko [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Problems with Belkin OmniView Switch box ?
Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2000 20:18:06 GMT

blowfish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 I am running Mandrake 7.1, and am using a Belkin Omni View SE 4-Port to
 switch between the Linux box and a Win98 box.
 
 I am finding that when I switch from the Win98 box to the Linux box,
 spurious character(s) seem to be sent to a Linux xterm.  It seems as if
 usually, the spurious character is an "up-arrow", since I often find my
 last command (repeated) in the command line (I am using bash).  I am
 running the same setup at work with a Linux and NT box and have seen
 nary a problem.
 
 Anybody else having this problem ? This is an annoyance, but my
 real worry is that one day I am going to have something disastrous,
 repeated in the command line...
 
 thanks,
 terry
 
 Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
 Before you buy.

 My Berkin Omni 4 ports KVM died after 2.5 months.

 I don't have any windoz machine, so, can't answer that part. It worked
 okay with *BSD and Linux. But died a premature death.

*** Did this switch let you alt-f1 or alt-f2 to different
*** screens when NOT using X.

thanks 

griz

 -- 
 - Alex / blowfish.(Have Fun with geek's culture: Part-1.)
 --
 - If Vi is God's editor. Then, God must have too much free time on his
 hands,
   lives a very dull and unproductive life; so he needs Vi to waste his
 time.
   But Vi was still too fast. So God created EMACS on the 8th day - which
 takes
   Eight Months to load, And Counting Still...
 - The UN-GEEK CODE:(?What is a
 geek?)-#!?+++??|$+?+++???+++---
   geek + vi | ~/emacs
 ==ZZzzz!!...:P~
   newbies + Windoz | C:\LOOKOUT
 EXPRESS==_the_horrors_the_hooORs!!! :-|
 - My SAS (Sing-A-Song) Fingerprint -v.i007.bond: Doe1(-a deer, a female
 deer.) RaY2(- a drop of golden sun.)
   Me3(- A name, I call myself.) FAr4(- A long, long way to run.) Sew5(-A
 needle pulling thread.)
   lA6(-A note to follow sew.) TeA7(-A drink with jam and bread.) That
 will bring us back to DOe-oh-oh-oh...

-- 
=
- Bob Surenko  

Linux-Misc Digest #375

2000-08-07 Thread Digestifier

Linux-Misc Digest #375, Volume #25Mon, 7 Aug 00 18:13:02 EDT

Contents:
  Re: UDMA IDE Drive stops network transfers (Stewart Honsberger)
  Re: Size of /var/lib/rpm - why so big? (Stewart Honsberger)
  Re: mp3 normalizer for Linux? (Kevin E Cosgrove)
  Re: Xdefaults (Fester)
  Re: psychology of linux ("Philo")
  Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (Robert Krawitz)
  Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (Robert Krawitz)
  3c59x using IRQ 0, how to change? ("Jason")
  Web BBS with stories  Video (Scorpius)
  Re: psychology of linux (Stephen Hui)
  Re: 3c59x using IRQ 0, how to change? (mst)
  Putting 2GB into several CD's (Julio Gonzalez-At)
  GUI Software??? Please Help ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (Johan Kullstam)
  Re: Help burning CDR (iso) image (Patrick Lamb)



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stewart Honsberger)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: UDMA IDE Drive stops network transfers
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2000 20:52:32 GMT

On 7 Aug 2000 19:04:07 GMT, Dances With Crows wrote:

After using the -u1 flag my drive performance seems to have improved,
especially in the buffer-cache reads. They now look as follows;

I just tried it on my drives, both UDMA 33, and got the following results;
/dev/hda:
 Timing buffer-cache reads:   128 MB in  2.69 seconds = 47.58 MB/sec
 Timing buffered disk reads:  64 MB in  4.73 seconds = 13.53 MB/sec

blackdeath:~ # hdparm -tT /dev/hda

/dev/hda:
 Timing buffer-cache reads:   128 MB in  2.22 seconds = 57.66 MB/sec
 Timing buffered disk reads:  64 MB in  4.32 seconds = 14.81 MB/sec

/dev/hdb:
 Timing buffer-cache reads:   128 MB in  2.55 seconds = 50.20 MB/sec
 Timing buffered disk reads:  64 MB in  7.78 seconds =  8.23 MB/sec

blackdeath:~ # hdparm -tT /dev/hdb

/dev/hdb:
 Timing buffer-cache reads:   128 MB in  2.22 seconds = 57.66 MB/sec
 Timing buffered disk reads:  64 MB in  7.60 seconds =  8.42 MB/sec

I've also enabled Write cacheing on both drives. That, from what I
understand, can cause data-loss after a power failure, but I'm going to
test it for a while and see if performance improves.

The above 57.66 number seems a bit interesting to me - both drives DMA
buffers read at the same speed? Is that normal?

The info on my drives looks like such;

blackdeath:~ # hdparm -i /dev/hda

 Model=Maxtor 90648D3, FwRev=GAS74812, SerialNo=A36200NC
 Config={ Fixed }
 RawCHS=12556/16/63, TrkSize=0, SectSize=0, ECCbytes=29
 BuffType=3(DualPortCache), BuffSize=512kB, MaxMultSect=16, MultSect=16
 DblWordIO=no, OldPIO=2, DMA=yes, OldDMA=2
 CurCHS=12556/16/63, CurSects=12656448, LBA=yes, LBAsects=12656448
 tDMA={min:120,rec:120}, DMA modes: mword0 mword1 mword2
 IORDY=on/off, tPIO={min:120,w/IORDY:120}, PIO modes: mode3 mode4
 UDMA modes: mode0 mode1 *mode2
 Drive Supports : ATA/ATAPI-4 T13 1153D revision 17 : ATA-1 ATA-2 ATA-3 ATA-4

blackdeath:~ # hdparm -i /dev/hdb

 Model=FUJITSU MPA3043ATU, FwRev=9519, SerialNo=01168939
 Config={ HardSect NotMFM HdSw15uSec Fixed DTR10Mbs RotSpdTol.5% }
 RawCHS=9042/15/63, TrkSize=0, SectSize=0, ECCbytes=4
 BuffType=0(?), BuffSize=0kB, MaxMultSect=16, MultSect=16
 DblWordIO=no, OldPIO=2, DMA=yes, OldDMA=0
 CurCHS=9042/15/63, CurSects=8544690, LBA=yes, LBAsects=8544940
 tDMA={min:120,rec:120}, DMA modes: mword0 mword1 mword2
 IORDY=yes, tPIO={min:240,w/IORDY:120}, PIO modes: mode3 mode4
 UDMA modes: mode0 mode1 *mode2
 Drive Supports : ATA-1 ATA-2 ATA-3

VIA MVP3 chipset w/VIA UDMA support enabled in kernel 2.2.16, hdparm
-u1 -c1 -m16 -d1 applied to both drives.

I'm now using all of those settings. It appears as if my Sector Count was
already set to the MaxMultSect value for both drives by default.

The figures are even better with the 2.4.x test kernels,

My kernel version is in my .signature. I must say I'm quite impressed with
the performance of these drives, if those figures are correct. I'm going
to reccomend some of these settings to a friend running a UDMA66 drive and
see what numbers he can come up with.

but overall performance is still worse with 2.4 thanks to the ongoing
VM problems.

Oh? I've noticed snappier performance since switching to 2.4. Memory
management appears to be much better, and disk cacheing is greatly
improved.

"Ongoing VM problems"? Would you mind elaborating?

My early '97 laptop gets 3M/sec even with everything tweaked for hdparm,
so 13M sounds great to me

I dunno, that's just what hdparm tells me. Since applying some of the early
tweaks to my HDD's, moving 3-6MB MP3 files between drives/partitions has
GREATLY improved. I'll have to try moving a 300MB VMWare .dsk file around
and see how fast MC tells me it's moving.

-- 
Stewart Honsberger (AKA Blackdeath) @ http://tinys.cx/blackdeath
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  (Remove 'thirteen' to reply privately)
Humming along under SuSE 6.4, Linux 2.4.0-test5

--

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Linux-Misc Digest #376

2000-08-07 Thread Digestifier

Linux-Misc Digest #376, Volume #25Mon, 7 Aug 00 19:13:02 EDT

Contents:
  passwd change error ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (blowfish)
  Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (blowfish)
  Server lockups - DAC960PL maybe? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (blowfish)
  Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (blowfish)
  Re: gzip / zip / compress : 2 gig limit? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (kristian ragndahl)
  Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (John Hasler)
  SAMBA password problem (Stewart Honsberger)
  INIT: Id "x" respawining too fast: disabled for 5 minutes -- and it won't stop! 
(Dave Brondsema)
  Re: 3c59x using IRQ 0, how to change? (Akira Yamanita)
  Re: 3c59x using IRQ 0, how to change? ("Jason")
  Re: text files (The Darkener)
  Re: GUI Software??? Please Help (Alex)



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: passwd change error
Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2000 22:00:00 GMT

Hi,
We install the redhat 6.0. Then we installed the user quota that comes
with the package. now, when i do passwd to enter a new passwd for a user
and after the final entring and hitting the enter key, the system halts
and i get the system freeze. what would be the cause?.

Please if you do not mind email me copies of your posts/replies. My
access to newsgroups are limited. Greatly appreciated.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

--

From: blowfish [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: ..
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2000 15:15:00 -0700

Robert Krawitz wrote:
 
 blowfish [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Robert Krawitz wrote:
 
Take Boeing as an example.  If they go the free software route, they can
save millions in software costs, but they decided against it, because
it's not practical for such a big international corp to switch
everything, tens of thousands of employees in numourous countries, and,
the trainning costs and time loss will far outcosted the cost saving in
free software.
  
   That's quite a different issue.
 
  That's part of the total costs too. Isn't it!?
 
 Of course it is, but that has nothing to do with free vs. proprietary
 software; it's a matter of frictional losses in retraining on anything.

But we're discussoing the overall values of "free" vs. propriety
software.  Ain't we?

So. That should be part of the total equation too.

 --
 Robert Krawitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://www.tiac.net/users/rlk/
 
 Tall Clubs International  --  http://www.tall.org/ or 1-888-IM-TALL-2
 Member of the League for Programming Freedom -- mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Project lead for The Gimp Print --  http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net
 
 "Linux doesn't dictate how I work, I dictate how Linux works."
 --Eric Crampton

-- 
- Alex / blowfish.(Have Fun with geek's culture: Part-1.)
--
- If Vi is God's editor. Then, God must have too much free time on his
hands,
  lives a very dull and unproductive life; so he needs Vi to waste his
time.
  But Vi was still too fast. So God created EMACS on the 8th day - which
takes
  Eight Months to load, And Counting Still...
- The UN-GEEK CODE:(?What is a
geek?)-#!?+++??|$+?+++???+++---
  geek + vi | ~/emacs
==ZZzzz!!...:P~
  newbies + Windoz | C:\LOOKOUT
EXPRESS==_the_horrors_the_hooORs!!! :-|
- My SAS (Sing-A-Song) Fingerprint -v.i007.bond: Doe1(-a deer, a female
deer.) RaY2(- a drop of golden sun.)
  Me3(- A name, I call myself.) FAr4(- A long, long way to run.) Sew5(-A
needle pulling thread.)
  lA6(-A note to follow sew.) TeA7(-A drink with jam and bread.) That
will bring us back to DOe-oh-oh-oh...
(c)Copyrighted by Alex / blowfish. 2000. All Rights Reserved.

--

From: blowfish [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: ..
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2000 15:29:25 -0700

Robert Krawitz wrote:
 
 blowfish [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Robert Krawitz wrote:
  
   blowfish [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
Also. You did contradicted your own idea of *free software*, as you have
taken the money from Debian as a reward.
   
Isn't that your codes should be *FREE* as in money - free, unlike
non-GNU-GPL codes-which costs money, as in *FREE BEER* too!?
  
   No, "free" as in "free software" only refers to "free speech"
   (liberty), not "free beer".  It's perfectly legal to sell GPL'ed
   software for whatever the market will bear.  The only thing the seller
   has to do is provide the source code, and not restrict further
   distribution beyond what the GPL specifies.
  
  No. Speech to most *real* human means expressing ideas, communicating to
  other *real* humans.
 
 

Linux-Misc Digest #378

2000-08-07 Thread Digestifier

Linux-Misc Digest #378, Volume #25Mon, 7 Aug 00 22:13:04 EDT

Contents:
  loadlin problem (lu tong)
  Re: i need help uninstalling redhat linux 6.2!!! (Robert Schweikert)
  Re: SAMBA password problem (Robert Schweikert)
  Re: Booting linux from ZIP (Robert Heller)
  Re: reclaiming master boo block? (Robert Schweikert)
  Re: RPM crashes my Linux (John Hasler)
  Re: installing freenet (David Rysdam)
  Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (Christopher Browne)
  Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (Christopher Browne)
  Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (Christopher Browne)
  Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (Jay Maynard)
  Re: Almost Lost New Hard Drive After Linux Install (Bob Hauck)
  Intelligent Autoresponder? (Joel Wilf)
  Re: UDMA IDE Drive stops network transfers (Bob Hauck)
  Re: Putting 2GB into several CD's (Bob Hauck)



From: lu tong [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: loadlin problem
Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 09:04:00 +0800

I use loadlin to load linux at the desktop of win98.

When I load in linux and then reboot, the linux can't reboot while it
can shut down.
But use LiLo or boot disk can reboot.

What's the probelm?
thank you!


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From: Robert Schweikert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: i need help uninstalling redhat linux 6.2!!!
Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2000 21:12:43 -0400

Well if you want to get rid of lilo then you want to use

lilo -u device-name

as documentedin the lilo man page. If you want to get rid the the whole
distribution I amafraid you will have to resort to more drastic measures,
reformating the partition where you installed RH6.2 is the best way to go
about it.

use /sbin/mke2fs check the man page for this.

Good luck,
Robert

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 hello if anyone out there is using redhat linux 6.2 i need help
 uninstalling it i've tried the command /sbin/lilo -u and it isn't
 working it sais in the redhat install guide that it would store an
 older version of lilo in a text file but it isn't working if anyone out
 there knows any other way of uninstalling redhat linux 6.2 then email
 me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Thanks deja member omega_666x and solo519!!!

 Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
 Before you buy.

--
Robert Schweikert  MAY THE SOURCE BE WITH YOU
[EMAIL PROTECTED] LINUX




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From: Robert Schweikert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: SAMBA password problem
Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2000 21:16:07 -0400

Sounds like you are having an encrypted password problem.

Check out the samba book at

http://us2.samba.org/samba/oreilly/using_samba/index.html

Chapter 6 covers passwords:
http://us2.samba.org/samba/oreilly/using_samba/ch06_04.html

Good luck,
Robert

Stewart Honsberger wrote:

 Hello All!

 I'm trying to setup SAMBA so that I can access some of my files under a Win'98
 system as a shared drive, but am running into a problem. Every time I try to
 access my computer from the Win'98 system it tells me I need a password for
 \\BLACKDEATH\IPC$ and I have NO IDEA what to tell it!

 I've tried my own password, the password I've entered as my Samba password
 with smbpasswd (both the same PW), but it doesn't work.

 What do I need to do to be able to atleast LOOK at the available shares?

 Thanks in advance!

 --
 Stewart Honsberger (AKA Blackdeath) @ http://tinys.cx/blackdeath
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]  (Remove 'thirteen' to reply privately)
 Humming along under SuSE 6.4, Linux 2.4.0-test5

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Robert Schweikert  MAY THE SOURCE BE WITH YOU
[EMAIL PROTECTED] LINUX




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From: Robert Heller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Booting linux from ZIP
Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 01:18:00 GMT

  Antonio =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9=20Ant=F3n?= [EMAIL PROTECTED],
  In a message on Mon, 07 Aug 2000 16:33:31 GMT, wrote :

A= Hello,
A= 
A= I'm making a system with only one iomega-ZIP disk (ATAPI version
A= connected to /dev/hda) and memory (without hardisk or CD). While
A= installing, I connected a CD-Rom to boot and install Linux (Suse 5.3) in
A= a ZIP diskette.
A= 
A= I configured a partition (/dev/hda1 to full disk size) and installed
A= LILO. The BIOS can boot from device LS/ZIP.
A= 
A= When I reboot the computer, the ZIP drive blinks the LED (I suposse it
A= is trying to load boot sector) and then BIOS shows the message "INSERT
A= BOOT DISK".

Are you seeing *any* messages from Lilo -- you should see:

LILO Boot:

(the L, I, L, and O letters should appear one by one, as each of the
four parts of the Lilo boot loader loads up).

The "INSERT BOOT DISK" looks like a *BIOS* message.  This is NOT from
LILO.  Lilo complains by not typing all of its name (and hanging) or
typing part of its name and various hex codes, or some variation.  If you
don't see at least the first L of LILO, the BIOS never read in the MBR
from the Zip drive.  You need to 

Linux-Misc Digest #379

2000-08-07 Thread Digestifier

Linux-Misc Digest #379, Volume #25Tue, 8 Aug 00 00:13:02 EDT

Contents:
  Caldera OpenLinux 2.2 KDE ("Matthew Pang")
  Re: Sound applications? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Caldera OpenLinux 2.2 KDE (Dances With Crows)
  Re: Server names for fetchmail? (David Efflandt)
  Re: VNC and my proxy ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: initrd lilo option? (David M. Cook)
  *Dire Need of Error Help* (N/A)
  Dire Need of Error Help (N/A)
  +Desperate Need of ERROR Help+ (N/A)
  Re: Size of /var/lib/rpm - why so big? (Michael Meissner)
  Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (John Hasler)
  Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (John Hasler)
  Re: MySQL vs PostgreSQL which is newbie friendlier? (Prasanth A. Kumar)
  Re: +Desperate Need of ERROR Help+ (Prasanth A. Kumar)
  Re: Caldera OpenLinux 2.2 KDE (Prasanth A. Kumar)
  Re: initrd lilo option? (Prasanth A. Kumar)
  Re: *Dire Need of Error Help* (Shaun)
  RH 6.2 Network Trouble (srini)
  Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (Christopher Browne)
  Re: Backup /usr files (permissions?), repartition, restore? (MH)
  i386 or i686 ("C.C.")
  Re: Backup /usr files (permissions?), repartition, restore? (Prasanth A. Kumar)
  Re: i386 or i686 (Prasanth A. Kumar)
  Re: RH 6.2 Network Trouble (Prasanth A. Kumar)
  Re: reclaiming the master boot record? (Peter Mitchell)
  Re: INIT: Id "x" respawining too fast: disabled for 5 minutes -- and it won't stop! 
(Bill Unruh)
  Re: reinstalling LILO (Peter Mitchell)



From: "Matthew Pang" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Caldera OpenLinux 2.2 KDE
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 10:11:36 +0800

After installation, I started KDE and found the the virtual screen was
bigger than the physical screen.  I tried to modify ViewPort 0 0 to disable
Virtual Desktop and Virtual 1024 768 to resize the resolution in "Screen
sections" XFree86Config.  But it did not help.  So I hope someone could give
me some advise.



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Sound applications?
Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 02:19:21 GMT

I wrote:

 What I'm looking for right now is a program to concatenate sound files. Seems
 so simple, but...

I ended up converting them to .raw with sox, cat'ting them, and converting
back. As usual with Linux, where there's a will, there's a way, albeit not
always a direct route. :-)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Caldera OpenLinux 2.2 KDE
Date: 8 Aug 2000 02:25:14 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Tue, 8 Aug 2000 10:11:36 +0800, Matthew Pang wrote:
After installation, I started KDE and found the the virtual screen was
bigger than the physical screen.  I tried to modify ViewPort 0 0 to disable
Virtual Desktop and Virtual 1024 768 to resize the resolution in "Screen
sections" XFree86Config.  But it did not help.  

How many resolutions did you configure?  A part of your /etc/XF86Config
(/etc/X11/XF86Config if the layout is like RedHat's) will look kind of
like so:
Section "Screen"
  Driver"SVGA"
  Device"Primary-Card"
  Monitor   "Primary-Monitor"
  DefaultColorDepth 32
  SubSection "Display"
Depth   32
Modes   "1024x768" "640x480" "400x300"

In the Modes line, if you have any mode larger than 1024x768, then the
virtual screen will be that size.  Edit the file manually, using emacs,
vi, nedit, or pico, and take out any modes higher than 1024x768.  (Or
run Xconfigurator, XF86Setup, or whatever Caldera's X-configuring
program is and don't configure any modes  1024x768.)  This is just the
way X works, and believe it or not, there are some folks who really like
that virtual screen option.

So I hope someone could give me some advise.
  ^^
Speling chicker?  :-)

-- 
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin /   Tyranny is always better organized
http://www.brainbench.com /than freedom.
=/  ==Charles Peguy

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Subject: Re: Server names for fetchmail?
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 02:26:09 + (UTC)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Mon, 07 Aug 2000 11:57:05 GMT, Mihaly Gyulai [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm a bit confused about using hostnames with fetchmail...

My address is [EMAIL PROTECTED], however I should
use the fvmrt-xch.vizmuvek.hu server for fetching mail.

User: my-user
At: vizmuvek.hu
Mail server: fvmrt-xch.vizmuvek.hu

Here is a detail from my .fetchmailrc:

# ./~fetchmailrc

defaults
protocol auto
fetchall

poll vizmuvek.hu via fvmrt-xch.vizmuvek.hu protocol IMAP
user my-user is misi here
pass jelszavam
fetchall

My problem:

When I try to fetch mails, it tries to use this address:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] .
It fails; I suppose this address does not exist.

What happens if you remove the