Re: problem e-mail

2003-09-22 Thread Ken Moffat
Roger Oberholtzer wrote:

Anyone getting e-mails about a MS critical update? I am getting this
over 300 times per day. It has a 156K exe attachment. They all seem to come
from different addresses.
Damn but I must find the time to set up spam filtering...

 

Yes. over and over. it is, of course, a trojan; just delete it or set up 
a filter.

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Re: no mail?

2003-09-15 Thread Douglas J Hunley
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Bob Hemus shocked and awed us all by speaking:
 I was going to install SpamAssin, but the site said it wasn't for
 desktop use.  So I Lonnied and came up with this site

SpamAssassin (SA) goes on whatever machine has your incoming sendmail server. 
if that's your desktop, then so be it. SA rocks and is well worth the effort 
getting it installed and trained
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Re: no mail?

2003-09-12 Thread Bob Hemus
Kurt Wall wrote:

Quoth Bob Hemus:

Doug, is the users' mail down or did my fp-linux-ws make you disappear?

What's a fp-linux-ws?

Kurt

I was going to install SpamAssin, but the site said it wasn't for 
desktop use.  So I Lonnied and came up with this site   
www.f-prot.com ]  and downloaded their program.  It seems to be 
working.  I'm not getting any more Re:Details, etc.
Bob

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Problem facing while trying to send mail through pine

2003-09-11 Thread Swapana Ghosh
Hi 

  I am running sendmail on Cobalt raq4r.. i have created one user under
one domain. when i am using webmail , i am not facing any problem to send the
mail. But when i am trying to send the mails through pine, i am getting errors
as follows:


Sep 10 13:21:54 server sendmail[381]: h8AKLsc00381: SYSERR(testg): rewrite:
exce
ssive recursion (max 50), ruleset canonify

Can anybody give me some hints? 

Thanks in advance.
-Swapna


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no mail?

2003-09-11 Thread Bob Hemus
Doug, is the users' mail down or did my fp-linux-ws make you disappear?
Bob
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Problem facing while tring to send mail through pine

2003-09-11 Thread Swapana Ghosh
Hi 

  I am running sendmail on Cobalt raq4r.. i have created one user under
one domain. when i am using webmail , i am not facing any problem to send the
mail. But when i am trying to send the mails through pine, i am getting errors
as follows:


Sep 10 13:21:54 server sendmail[381]: h8AKLsc00381: SYSERR(testg): rewrite:
exce
ssive recursion (max 50), ruleset canonify

Can anybody give me some hints? 

Thanks in advance.
-Swapna


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Re: Problem facing while trying to send mail through pine

2003-09-11 Thread Net Llama!
On Wed, 10 Sep 2003, Swapana Ghosh wrote:
 Hi

   I am running sendmail on Cobalt raq4r.. i have created one user under
 one domain. when i am using webmail , i am not facing any problem to send the
 mail. But when i am trying to send the mails through pine, i am getting errors
 as follows:


 Sep 10 13:21:54 server sendmail[381]: h8AKLsc00381: SYSERR(testg): rewrite:
 exce
 ssive recursion (max 50), ruleset canonify

 Can anybody give me some hints?

Learn to use GOogle perhaps?
http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=num=30as_scoring=rhl=enie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8btnG=Google+Searchas_epq=rewrite%3A+excessive+recursion+as_oq=as_eq=as_ugroup=as_usubject=as_uauthors=as_umsgid=lr=as_drrb=qas_qdr=as_mind=12as_minm=5as_miny=1981as_maxd=11as_maxm=9as_maxy=2003safe=off



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Re: no mail?

2003-09-11 Thread Kurt Wall
Quoth Bob Hemus:
 Doug, is the users' mail down or did my fp-linux-ws make you disappear?

What's a fp-linux-ws?

Kurt
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Re: can't mail list from kmail

2003-09-09 Thread Douglas J Hunley
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Ken Moffat shocked and awed us all by speaking:
 Maybe the from header in kmail is showing an unsubscribed email address?
 just a thought/guess...

we allow unsubbed emails onto the list...
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can't mail list from kmail

2003-09-07 Thread Marianne Taylor
Anybody have any idea why I can't mail the list from kmail, but can from 
Mozilla?  kmail is set up properly and I can e-mail my work account.

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Re: can't mail list from kmail

2003-09-07 Thread Ken Moffat
Marianne Taylor wrote:

Anybody have any idea why I can't mail the list from kmail, but can 
from Mozilla?  kmail is set up properly and I can e-mail my work account.


Does kmail work with other subscribed mailing lists?

Maybe the from header in kmail is showing an unsubscribed email address? 
just a thought/guess...

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Re: can't mail list from kmail

2003-09-07 Thread Net Llama!
On 09/07/03 10:19, Marianne Taylor wrote:

Anybody have any idea why I can't mail the list from kmail, but can from 
Mozilla?  kmail is set up properly and I can e-mail my work account.
What do you mean by can't?  Is it bouncing?  If so, what does the bounce 
look like?

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Re: can't mail list from kmail

2003-09-07 Thread Marianne Taylor
On September 7, 2003 10:38, Net Llama! wrote:
 On 09/07/03 10:19, Marianne Taylor wrote:
  Anybody have any idea why I can't mail the list from kmail, but can from
  Mozilla?  kmail is set up properly and I can e-mail my work account.

 What do you mean by can't?  Is it bouncing?  If so, what does the bounce
 look like?

Testing?

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Re: can't mail list from kmail

2003-09-07 Thread Marianne Taylor
On September 7, 2003 12:04, Marianne Taylor wrote:
 On September 7, 2003 10:38, Net Llama! wrote:
  On 09/07/03 10:19, Marianne Taylor wrote:
   Anybody have any idea why I can't mail the list from kmail, but can
   from Mozilla?  kmail is set up properly and I can e-mail my work
   account.
 
  What do you mean by can't?  Is it bouncing?  If so, what does the
  bounce look like?

 Testing?

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Re: can't mail list from kmail

2003-09-07 Thread Marianne Taylor
Net Llama! wrote:

On 09/07/03 10:19, Marianne Taylor wrote:

Anybody have any idea why I can't mail the list from kmail, but can 
from Mozilla?  kmail is set up properly and I can e-mail my work 
account.


What do you mean by can't?  Is it bouncing?  If so, what does the 
bounce look like?

I get no response at all.  No problem from Mozilla.
Where would I look for hidden headers, since I can't mail any lists?
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Undeliverable mail: Re: Your application

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Re: Why all this- Undeliverable Mail

2003-09-03 Thread Douglas J Hunley
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Keith Antoine shocked and awed us all by speaking:
 Doug,
 I am getting virii sent to me, I have actually lost count of how many times
 I have received a copy. All I seem to be doing at the moment is deleting
 mail.

you're getting actual copies of the virus from this list? if so, we need to 
look into this asap
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Re: Why all this- Undeliverable Mail

2003-09-03 Thread Keith Antoine
On Wed, 3 Sep 2003 11:11 pm, Douglas J Hunley wrote:
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 Keith Antoine shocked and awed us all by speaking:
  Doug,
  I am getting virii sent to me, I have actually lost count of how many
  times I have received a copy. All I seem to be doing at the moment is
  deleting mail.

 you're getting actual copies of the virus from this list? if so, we need to
 look into this asap

BTW, they do seem to have stopped as of today will let you know if they 
continue, but yes they came from the list. I am only getting  undelivered 
mail notices now via the list, however that has dropped to 4 today.

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Undeliverable mail: Re: That movie

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Why all this- Undeliverable Mail

2003-09-02 Thread Harry Giles
I have recieved about 30 of these from the mailing list.  Anyone else 
getting them?

Harry G


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Re: Why all this- Undeliverable Mail

2003-09-02 Thread Tim Wunder
I suspect we're all getting them and I'm hoping the powers that be are 
doing what they can to eliminate the problem. I suspect it's 
non-trivial, or it woulda been fixed by now...

On 9/2/2003 11:38 AM, someone claiming to be Harry Giles wrote:

I have recieved about 30 of these from the mailing list.  Anyone else 
getting them?

Harry G


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Re: Why all this- Undeliverable Mail

2003-09-02 Thread Douglas J Hunley
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Tim Wunder shocked and awed us all by speaking:
 I suspect we're all getting them and I'm hoping the powers that be are
 doing what they can to eliminate the problem. I suspect it's
 non-trivial, or it woulda been fixed by now...

are you guys actually getting the virus or just notices that a virus was 
caught?
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Re: Why all this- Undeliverable Mail

2003-09-02 Thread Bill Campbell
On Tue, Sep 02, 2003, Douglas J Hunley wrote:
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Tim Wunder shocked and awed us all by speaking:
 I suspect we're all getting them and I'm hoping the powers that be are
 doing what they can to eliminate the problem. I suspect it's
 non-trivial, or it woulda been fixed by now...

are you guys actually getting the virus or just notices that a virus was 
caught?

Doesn't mailman have something similar to majordomo's taboo_headers pattern
checking?  Converting to mailman from majordomo has long been on my list of
things to do when I get a shipment of round tuits, and implementing the
anti-spam/worm checks that I've got on majordomo is one of my major issues
-- it's probably just RTFM when I get time.

Bill
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Re: Why all this- Undeliverable Mail

2003-09-02 Thread Myles Green
On Tue, 2003-09-02 at 11:45, Douglas J Hunley wrote:
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 Tim Wunder shocked and awed us all by speaking:
  I suspect we're all getting them and I'm hoping the powers that be are
  doing what they can to eliminate the problem. I suspect it's
  non-trivial, or it woulda been fixed by now...
 
 are you guys actually getting the virus or just notices that a virus was 
 caught?

I've received _several_ copies of the virus itself and countless copies
via notices. The notices were not from this list.

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Re: Why all this- Undeliverable Mail

2003-09-02 Thread Tim Wunder
On 9/2/2003 1:45 PM, someone claiming to be Douglas J Hunley wrote:

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Tim Wunder shocked and awed us all by speaking:

I suspect we're all getting them and I'm hoping the powers that be are
doing what they can to eliminate the problem. I suspect it's
non-trivial, or it woulda been fixed by now...


are you guys actually getting the virus or just notices that a virus was 
caught?

Both.
Some of the notices have the virus attached as part of the original e-mail.
For instance, the message with the subject: Mail delivery failed: 
returning message to sender, dated this morning, 10:22 AM has the virus 
attached as the original undeliverable mail message.

Tim

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Re: Why all this- Undeliverable Mail

2003-09-02 Thread Tom Wilson
On Tue, 2003-09-02 at 13:45, Douglas J Hunley wrote:

 are you guys actually getting the virus or just notices that a virus was 
 caught?
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 http://doug.hunley.homeip.net  http://www.linux-sxs.org

I have not received the virus.  Just a bunch of notices from some virus
scanners saying they received a copy of the virus from the linux-users
list.  Obviously the address has been spoofed.  And now the list is
spammed by automagic messages from virus scanners.

--Tom Wilson
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Re: Why all this- Undeliverable Mail

2003-09-02 Thread bof
Replies and notices  --- lots and lots of them: probably 60 in the past 
two days.

Douglas J Hunley wrote:

Are you guys actually getting the virus or just notices that a virus was caught?

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RE: Why all this- Undeliverable Mail

2003-09-02 Thread Jack Berger
just the notices - 

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 Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 12:46 PM
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 Tim Wunder shocked and awed us all by speaking:
  I suspect we're all getting them and I'm hoping the powers 
 that be are
  doing what they can to eliminate the problem. I suspect it's
  non-trivial, or it woulda been fixed by now...
 
 are you guys actually getting the virus or just notices that 
 a virus was 
 caught?
 - -- 
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 http://doug.hunley.homeip.net  http://www.linux-sxs.org
 
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Re: Why all this- Undeliverable Mail

2003-09-02 Thread Andrew Mathews
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Douglas J Hunley wrote:
| Tim Wunder shocked and awed us all by speaking:
|
|I suspect we're all getting them and I'm hoping the powers that be are
|doing what they can to eliminate the problem. I suspect it's
|non-trivial, or it woulda been fixed by now...
|
|
| are you guys actually getting the virus or just notices that a virus was
| caught?
| --
| Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778
| http://doug.hunley.homeip.net  http://www.linux-sxs.org
|
FWIW- I have yet to receive any of these attachments. I'm running
MIMEDefang/Clamav/Sendmail same as the list.
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Re: Why all this- Undeliverable Mail

2003-09-02 Thread Douglas J Hunley
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Andrew Mathews shocked and awed us all by speaking:
 FWIW- I have yet to receive any of these attachments. I'm running
 MIMEDefang/Clamav/Sendmail same as the list.

and you're not having the occasional .pif file make it past MD (like we've 
been discussing on the MD list for a while now)?
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Linux is a _real_ OS, not some we filled in the paperwork and it is now 
standards compliant.  -- Linus Torvalds
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Re: Why all this- Undeliverable Mail

2003-09-02 Thread Raymond Russell
On 9/2/03 11:38, Harry Giles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have recieved about 30 of these from the mailing list.  Anyone else
 getting them?
 
 Harry G
 
 


Its due to the SoBig worm.  It must be using the lists e-mail on some ones
infected machine and the bounces are coming back here.


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Mac OS X 10.2.6


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Re: Why all this- Undeliverable Mail

2003-09-02 Thread Andrew Mathews
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Douglas J Hunley wrote:
| Andrew Mathews shocked and awed us all by speaking:
|
|FWIW- I have yet to receive any of these attachments. I'm running
|MIMEDefang/Clamav/Sendmail same as the list.
|
|
| and you're not having the occasional .pif file make it past MD (like we've
| been discussing on the MD list for a while now)?
| --
| Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778
| http://doug.hunley.homeip.net  http://www.linux-sxs.org
Nope. I haven't received any attachments. MIMEDefang has been deleting all the
.pif's, regardless. No upstream filtering is going on either. (yeah, I've been
following the MD thread on this, but I have a pretty standard config under
2.60-cvs) Relevant defang filter below:
# This procedure returns true for entities with bad filenames.
sub filter_bad_filename ($) {
~my($entity) = @_;
~my($bad_exts, $re);
~# Bad extensions
~$bad_exts = '(ade|adp|app|asd|asf|asx|bas|bat|chm|cmd|com|cpl|crt|dll|exe|fxp|h
lp|hta|hto|inf|ini|ins|isp|jse?|lib|lnk|mdb|mde|msc|msi|msp|mst|ocx|pcd|pif|prg|reg
|scr|sct|sh|shb|shs|sys|url|vb|vbe|vbs|vcs|vxd|wmd|wms|wmz|wsc|wsf|wsh|\{)';
~# Do not allow:
~# - curlies
~# - bad extensions (possibly with trailing dots) at end or
~#   followed by non-alphanum
~$re = '\.' . $bad_exts . '\.*([^-A-Za-z0-9_.,]|$)';
~return re_match($entity, $re);
}
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Re: Why all this- Undeliverable Mail

2003-09-02 Thread Douglas J Hunley
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Andrew Mathews shocked and awed us all by speaking:
 Nope. I haven't received any attachments. MIMEDefang has been deleting all
 the .pif's, regardless. No upstream filtering is going on either. (yeah,
 I've been following the MD thread on this, but I have a pretty standard
 config under 2.60-cvs) Relevant defang filter below:

looks like our filter. you must just be getting lucky. it's weird, cause the 
ones that make it through won't infect you. the email and virus both are 
fscked up enough that they don't work as intended. oh well. I think I got a 
handle on everything now.

the list seems much quieter now
- -- 
Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778
http://doug.hunley.homeip.net  http://www.linux-sxs.org

panic(esp_handle: current_SC == penguin within interrupt!); --2.2.16 
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Re: Why all this- Undeliverable Mail

2003-09-02 Thread Keith Antoine
On Wed, 3 Sep 2003 03:45 am, Douglas J Hunley wrote:
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 Tim Wunder shocked and awed us all by speaking:
  I suspect we're all getting them and I'm hoping the powers that be are
  doing what they can to eliminate the problem. I suspect it's
  non-trivial, or it woulda been fixed by now...

 are you guys actually getting the virus or just notices that a virus was
 caught?

Doug,
I am getting virii sent to me, I have actually lost count of how many times I 
have received a copy. All I seem to be doing at the moment is deleting mail.

-- 
Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY'
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Re: Why all this- Undeliverable Mail

2003-09-02 Thread Tony Alfrey
On Tuesday 02 September 2003 08:38 am, Harry Giles wrote:
 I have recieved about 30 of these from the mailing list.  Anyone else
 getting them?

I'm getting megabytes of this stuff and other bounced mail.  I think 
Doug is gonna work on a really spiffy filter to keep all of this 
bounced stuff from getting sent back out on linux-sxs.org  g


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Re: Why all this- Undeliverable Mail

2003-09-02 Thread burns
On Tue, 2003-09-02 at 15:53, Raymond Russell wrote:

 Its due to the SoBig worm.  It must be using the lists e-mail on some ones
 infected machine and the bounces are coming back here.

It would have to be a Windows box.
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Re: Ideas for Mail and Calendaring for 50,000 Users

2003-08-28 Thread Collins Richey
On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 07:48:45 +1000
James McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Jason Joines wrote:
 
   We just got a new CIO at the university where I work.  One thing he
   
  is about to do is get rid of all the different mail systems and have
  
  one big combined system for all employees and students.  That'll be 
  about 50,000 users.
 
   At the moment the predominant faculty/staff mail system is Lotus 
  Domino on windows 2k and the predominant system for students is Sun 
  Internet Mail Server on Solaris.  He intends to replace these with
  ms exchange on windows 2k.  There is a small chance he will listen
  to suggestions to consider non-exchange options.
 
   Any suggestions?
 
  Thanks,
 
  Jason Joines

Even Microsoft can't make Microsoft servers work.  Send the CIO this URI
as noted on the list.

Microsoft hides behind Linux for protection
http://news.zdnet.co.uk/software/linuxunix/0,39020390,39115920,00.htm



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Re: Ideas for Mail and Calendaring for 50,000 Users

2003-08-28 Thread Shawn Tayler


qmail  

Assuming he at least has an open mind.  You might point out the
HUGE security risks that he will be placing the University into if he goes
the MS route...

Look at Sobig, and believe it or not my office was brought down by Nachi,
the IT dept is node 253 of tertiary adjunct 46, it arrived as an
attachment, right through an Exchange mail server with McAfees big
commercial setup.  An idiot, in the DA's office, where else, clicked on
it and we are in our 3rd day of cleanup, it shutdown whole depts.  Every
unpatched Win2000 box that was turned on and connected to the network was
infected within minutes, I am serious, nearly a thousand machines... 
We have a very nice network infrastructure so it moved real fast.  And
Nachi isn't an email worm.

Shawn

On Wed,
27 Aug 2003 09:00:25-0500 Jason Joines[EMAIL PROTECTED] professed:

   We just got a new CIO at the university where I work.  One thing he is 
 about to do is get rid of all the different mail systems and have one 
 big combined system for all employees and students.  That'll be about 
 50,000 users.
 
   At the moment the predominant faculty/staff mail system is Lotus 
 Domino on windows 2k and the predominant system for students is Sun 
 Internet Mail Server on Solaris.  He intends to replace these with ms 
 exchange on windows 2k.  There is a small chance he will listen to 
 suggestions to consider non-exchange options.
 
   Any suggestions?
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Ideas for Mail and Calendaring for 50,000 Users

2003-08-27 Thread Jason Joines
 We just got a new CIO at the university where I work.  One thing he is 
about to do is get rid of all the different mail systems and have one 
big combined system for all employees and students.  That'll be about 
50,000 users.

 At the moment the predominant faculty/staff mail system is Lotus 
Domino on windows 2k and the predominant system for students is Sun 
Internet Mail Server on Solaris.  He intends to replace these with ms 
exchange on windows 2k.  There is a small chance he will listen to 
suggestions to consider non-exchange options.

 Any suggestions?

Thanks,

Jason Joines
Open Source = Open Mind

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Re: Ideas for Mail and Calendaring for 50,000 Users

2003-08-27 Thread David A. Bandel
On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 09:00:25 -0500
Jason Joines [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   We just got a new CIO at the university where I work.  One thing he
   is 
 about to do is get rid of all the different mail systems and have one 
 big combined system for all employees and students.  That'll be about 
 50,000 users.
 
   At the moment the predominant faculty/staff mail system is Lotus 
 Domino on windows 2k and the predominant system for students is Sun 
 Internet Mail Server on Solaris.  He intends to replace these with ms 
 exchange on windows 2k.  There is a small chance he will listen to 
 suggestions to consider non-exchange options.
 
   Any suggestions?

If he's serious about Exchange with 50k+ users, I suggest you find a new
job (the recent posting to this list comes to mind).  Not even M$ can
get this to work.  You'll need one exchange server per 500 users (so
100+ Win2k systems running Exchange should work) -- or, one Linux box
using something like PowerMail (and PostgreSQL), although I'd suggest 3
systems for good failover capability.

Also, the PowerMail solution will cost you about half a million $$$ less
and not have nearly the headaches.  BTW, to run 100+ Win2k servers,
you'll need at least 10 more Windoze admins too (not included in above
cost savings estimate, so estimate over $1,000,000 in savings per year).

OTOH, if this guys importance is measured in terms of the size of his
budget and not his successful accomplishments, only M$ will do.  M$, the
empire builders' dream.

Ciao,

David A. Bandel
-- 
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Re: Ideas for Mail and Calendaring for 50,000 Users

2003-08-27 Thread Mike Reinehr
I only know what I've read about it, but it sounds like Ximian Evolution 
would be just the product for you:

http://www.ximian.com/products/evolution/

cmr

On Wednesday 27 August 2003 09:00 am, you wrote:
   We just got a new CIO at the university where I work.  One thing he is
 about to do is get rid of all the different mail systems and have one
 big combined system for all employees and students.  That'll be about
 50,000 users.

   At the moment the predominant faculty/staff mail system is Lotus
 Domino on windows 2k and the predominant system for students is Sun
 Internet Mail Server on Solaris.  He intends to replace these with ms
 exchange on windows 2k.  There is a small chance he will listen to
 suggestions to consider non-exchange options.

   Any suggestions?

 Thanks,

 Jason Joines
 Open Source = Open Mind
 

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Re: Ideas for Mail and Calendaring for 50,000 Users

2003-08-27 Thread Andrew Mathews
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Jason Joines wrote:
|  We just got a new CIO at the university where I work.  One thing he is
| about to do is get rid of all the different mail systems and have one
| big combined system for all employees and students.  That'll be about
| 50,000 users.
|
|  At the moment the predominant faculty/staff mail system is Lotus Domino
| on windows 2k and the predominant system for students is Sun Internet
| Mail Server on Solaris.  He intends to replace these with ms exchange on
| windows 2k.  There is a small chance he will listen to suggestions to
| consider non-exchange options.
|
|  Any suggestions?
|
| Thanks,
|
| Jason Joines
| Open Source = Open Mind
| 
phpgroupware.
http://phpgroupware.com
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Re: Ideas for Mail and Calendaring for 50,000 Users

2003-08-27 Thread Jason Joines
David A. Bandel wrote:

On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 09:00:25 -0500
Jason Joines [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

 We just got a new CIO at the university where I work.  One thing he
 is 
about to do is get rid of all the different mail systems and have one 
big combined system for all employees and students.  That'll be about 
50,000 users.

 At the moment the predominant faculty/staff mail system is Lotus 
Domino on windows 2k and the predominant system for students is Sun 
Internet Mail Server on Solaris.  He intends to replace these with ms 
exchange on windows 2k.  There is a small chance he will listen to 
suggestions to consider non-exchange options.

 Any suggestions?
   

If he's serious about Exchange with 50k+ users, I suggest you find a new
job (the recent posting to this list comes to mind).  Not even M$ can
get this to work.  You'll need one exchange server per 500 users (so
100+ Win2k systems running Exchange should work) -- or, one Linux box
using something like PowerMail (and PostgreSQL), although I'd suggest 3
systems for good failover capability.
Also, the PowerMail solution will cost you about half a million $$$ less
and not have nearly the headaches.  BTW, to run 100+ Win2k servers,
you'll need at least 10 more Windoze admins too (not included in above
cost savings estimate, so estimate over $1,000,000 in savings per year).
OTOH, if this guys importance is measured in terms of the size of his
budget and not his successful accomplishments, only M$ will do.  M$, the
empire builders' dream.
Ciao,

David A. Bandel
 



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search for it, please send it to me.

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Re: Ideas for Mail and Calendaring for 50,000 Users

2003-08-27 Thread Tim Wunder
On 8/27/2003 12:31 PM, someone claiming to be Andrew Mathews wrote:

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Jason Joines wrote:
|  We just got a new CIO at the university where I work.  One thing he is
| about to do is get rid of all the different mail systems and have one
| big combined system for all employees and students.  That'll be about
| 50,000 users.
|
|  At the moment the predominant faculty/staff mail system is Lotus Domino
| on windows 2k and the predominant system for students is Sun Internet
| Mail Server on Solaris.  He intends to replace these with ms exchange on
| windows 2k.  There is a small chance he will listen to suggestions to
| consider non-exchange options.
|
|  Any suggestions?
|
| Thanks,
|
| Jason Joines
| Open Source = Open Mind
| 
phpgroupware.
http://phpgroupware.com
Do you use it? I've looked at it for our small network here, but haven't 
tried to implement it yet.

Tim

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Re: Ideas for Mail and Calendaring for 50,000 Users

2003-08-27 Thread Net Llama!
Ya, evolkution is an Outlook clone.  Its not an exchange clone, AFAIK.

On Wed, 27 Aug 2003, Tim Wunder wrote:

 Isn't that just for the client end, to connect to the servers?

 On 8/27/2003 12:03 PM, someone claiming to be Mike Reinehr wrote:
  I only know what I've read about it, but it sounds like Ximian Evolution
  would be just the product for you:
 
  http://www.ximian.com/products/evolution/
 
  cmr
 
  On Wednesday 27 August 2003 09:00 am, you wrote:
 
   We just got a new CIO at the university where I work.  One thing he is
 about to do is get rid of all the different mail systems and have one
 big combined system for all employees and students.  That'll be about
 50,000 users.
 
   At the moment the predominant faculty/staff mail system is Lotus
 Domino on windows 2k and the predominant system for students is Sun
 Internet Mail Server on Solaris.  He intends to replace these with ms
 exchange on windows 2k.  There is a small chance he will listen to
 suggestions to consider non-exchange options.
 
   Any suggestions?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Jason Joines
 Open Source = Open Mind
 
 
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Re: Ideas for Mail and Calendaring for 50,000 Users

2003-08-27 Thread Mike Reinehr
I should have remembered the proverb: Better to be silent and let people 
think you are a fool, than to speak and let them know it.

My bad. Spoke about something I know nothing about.

cmr

On Wednesday 27 August 2003 12:16 pm, you wrote:
 Ya, evolkution is an Outlook clone.  Its not an exchange clone, AFAIK.

 On Wed, 27 Aug 2003, Tim Wunder wrote:
  Isn't that just for the client end, to connect to the servers?
 
  On 8/27/2003 12:03 PM, someone claiming to be Mike Reinehr wrote:
   I only know what I've read about it, but it sounds like Ximian
   Evolution would be just the product for you:
  
   http://www.ximian.com/products/evolution/
  
   cmr
  
   On Wednesday 27 August 2003 09:00 am, you wrote:
We just got a new CIO at the university where I work.  One thing he
   is about to do is get rid of all the different mail systems and have
   one big combined system for all employees and students.  That'll be
   about 50,000 users.
  
At the moment the predominant faculty/staff mail system is Lotus
  Domino on windows 2k and the predominant system for students is Sun
  Internet Mail Server on Solaris.  He intends to replace these with ms
  exchange on windows 2k.  There is a small chance he will listen to
  suggestions to consider non-exchange options.
  
Any suggestions?
  
  Thanks,
  
  Jason Joines
  Open Source = Open Mind
  
  
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Re: Ideas for Mail and Calendaring for 50,000 Users

2003-08-27 Thread Andrew Mathews
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Tim Wunder wrote:
[...]
|
| phpgroupware.
| http://phpgroupware.com
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|
| Do you use it? I've looked at it for our small network here, but haven't
| tried to implement it yet.
|
| Tim
Yes. We have around 2000 users and it works quite well.
phpgroupware/sendmail/MIMEDefang/clamav gives us shared calendars,
global address books, check in/out functions, web, pop3  imap4 mail,
spam filtering,  anti virus scanning all in one system that doesn't
even yawn at 15,000 messages a day. (before sobig  blaster) Total cost?
$0. Compared to 4 Exchange servers at $1,200 per, plus $50 per client
license (x 2000) to connect = $104,800. To try to be a proponent of a
solution like Microsoft offers would definitely be a valid argument of
more money than brains
We've made some worthwhile contributions to mail-abuse.org,
phpgroupware, sendmail, spamcop.net and other open source providers though.
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Re: Ideas for Mail and Calendaring for 50,000 Users

2003-08-27 Thread Alma J Wetzker
Jason Joines [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed, 27 Aug 2003 09:00:25 -0500
 We just got a new CIO at the university where I work.  One thing he is 
about to do is get rid of all the different mail systems and have one 
big combined system for all employees and students.  That'll be about 
50,000 users.

 At the moment the predominant faculty/staff mail system is Lotus Domino 
on windows 2k and the predominant system for students is Sun Internet 
Mail Server on Solaris.  He intends to replace these with ms exchange on 
windows 2k.  There is a small chance he will listen to suggestions to 
consider non-exchange options.

 Any suggestions?

Thanks,

Jason Joines
The recent virii incidents ought to be sufficiently fresh to make a 
point about downtime vulnerability.  At the U of MN students can connect 
inside the firewall.  A single machine infected outside and then logging 
in inside will compleatly bypass the firewall.

I am not sure about cost savings specifically but linux should mean 
fewer machines, therefore fewer support resources, therefore fewer 
ongoing costs.  In the current economy, universities seem to be getting 
squeezed pretty good.

It all depends on the CIO's goal.  If he wants to have the largest staff 
and biggest budget, stress the threat of downtime.  (It is already 
assumed that he is susceptible to FUD, at least from M$.)  If he wants 
to show efficiency and budget cutting know how, stress simplicity and 
cost savings.

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Re: Ideas for Mail and Calendaring for 50,000 Users

2003-08-27 Thread Gerry Doris
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 Tim Wunder wrote:
 [...]
 |
 | phpgroupware.
 | http://phpgroupware.com
 |
 |
 | Do you use it? I've looked at it for our small network here, but haven't
 | tried to implement it yet.
 |
 | Tim

 Yes. We have around 2000 users and it works quite well.
 phpgroupware/sendmail/MIMEDefang/clamav gives us shared calendars,
 global address books, check in/out functions, web, pop3  imap4 mail,
 spam filtering,  anti virus scanning all in one system that doesn't
 even yawn at 15,000 messages a day. (before sobig  blaster) Total cost?
 $0. Compared to 4 Exchange servers at $1,200 per, plus $50 per client
 license (x 2000) to connect = $104,800. To try to be a proponent of a
 solution like Microsoft offers would definitely be a valid argument of
 more money than brains
 We've made some worthwhile contributions to mail-abuse.org,
 phpgroupware, sendmail, spamcop.net and other open source providers
 though.

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I'mn surprised you haven't plugged SpamAssassin into the mix.  Is there a
reason for that?

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Re: Ideas for Mail and Calendaring for 50,000 Users

2003-08-27 Thread Net Llama!
On Wed, 27 Aug 2003, Gerry Doris wrote:
 I'mn surprised you haven't plugged SpamAssassin into the mix.  Is there a
 reason for that?

Maybe cause its track record lately isn't that great.

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Re: Ideas for Mail and Calendaring for 50,000 Users

2003-08-27 Thread Andrew Mathews
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Gerry Doris wrote:
[...]
|phpgroupware/sendmail/MIMEDefang/clamav gives us shared calendars,
[...]
|
| I'mn surprised you haven't plugged SpamAssassin into the mix.  Is there a
| reason for that?
|
| Gerry
We don't really need it. We run Symantec AV on a Sun Solaris box that
uses dnsbls. Our spam has dropped by 95%+ and it wouldn't serve much
purpose. By the time it gets to the system it's already been scanned for
virii and checked against the appropriate blacklists. We also have 4
more dnsbls coded into sendmail for a total of 7 checks, plus zone files
for the ones available on our dns servers, so lookups are not a large
amount of external traffic. The internal queries are on a gigabit
network. So all total, a single message is scanned for virii twice by
two different av scanners, and checked against 7 blacklists, as well as
the access list blocking capabilities of sendmail. Excellent
instructions for this are available at:
http://abuse.easynet.nl/spamlist-usage.html
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Re: Ideas for Mail and Calendaring for 50,000 Users

2003-08-27 Thread James McDonald
Jason Joines wrote:

 We just got a new CIO at the university where I work.  One thing he 
is about to do is get rid of all the different mail systems and have 
one big combined system for all employees and students.  That'll be 
about 50,000 users.

We run a single M$ E2K server for around 1000 users and it needs fairly 
intense admin... especially as the information stores are around the 
200GB mark.

Lotus Domino server will run on Linux so throw that in as an option for 
a more stable server over the W2K base.

However Outlook is a better PIM than the Lotus Notes Variety.

Will clients want to synchronize PDA's? etc

There are solutions provided by the big linux providers
http://www.suse.de/en/business/products/suse_business/openexchange/
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Re: Ideas for Mail and Calendaring for 50,000 Users

2003-08-27 Thread James McDonald
Jason Joines wrote:

 We just got a new CIO at the university where I work.  One thing he 
is about to do is get rid of all the different mail systems and have 
one big combined system for all employees and students.  That'll be 
about 50,000 users.

 At the moment the predominant faculty/staff mail system is Lotus 
Domino on windows 2k and the predominant system for students is Sun 
Internet Mail Server on Solaris.  He intends to replace these with ms 
exchange on windows 2k.  There is a small chance he will listen to 
suggestions to consider non-exchange options.

 Any suggestions?

Thanks,

Jason Joines
Open Source = Open Mind

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Re: Mail related issues

2003-08-14 Thread Andrew Mathews
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Swapana Ghosh wrote:
| Hi
|
|i am facing one problem recently...My server is
| cobalt-raq4r. we have created the users through the
| cobalt GUI and *sendmail* is running as MTA . Now in
| case of the mails. The problem is as follows:
|
| - When one user is sending mail from any address
| to one of
|   our domain the messages are showing in the
| /var/log/maillog as follows:
| __
|Aug  8 09:21:11 server sendmail[1712]:
| h78GLBP01712: from=[EMAIL PROTECTED],
| size=752, class=0, nrcpts=1,
| msgid=[EMAIL PROTECTED], pro
| to=ESMTP, daemon=MTA, relay=artemis.ixpres.com
| [216.240.160.204]
|
| Aug  8 09:21:12 server sendmail[1713]: h78GLBP01712:
| to=[EMAIL PROTECTED],
|  delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:01, mailer=local,
| pri=30266, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent
Since you see it processing through syslog as such, before any header
rewrite, then that's how the user is sending it. They need to send it to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] rather than [EMAIL PROTECTED] The from= in syslog is
shown only for sender records.
~ _
|
| When i am checking the mail, the mail is showing in my
| mailbox as follows:
| 
| Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 09:23:25 -0700
| From: Michael A [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Subject: Contact Information
| 
|
| I don't want that the To will be assigned as
| [EMAIL PROTECTED]
You can use the virtusertable and genericstable functions of sendmail to
readdress the messages if needed. See:
http://www.sendmail.org/virtual-hosting.html
Make sure your DNS records are correct first, as any errors will make
the rest of your efforts irrelevant.
| It is not happening for all the users - somtimes i am
| seeing that though the maillog
| is showing [EMAIL PROTECTED] but the mail is
| coming in my inbox as
Did you rebuild your sendmail.cf with FEATURE(always_add_domain)?
This will always add a domain in conjunction with the MASQUERADE_AS
flag. Could be you defined one but not the other. What's in your
/etc/mail/local-host-names?
|
| [EMAIL PROTECTED] For few cases , i am seeing this
| type of behavior
Please post a syslog record with the matching message header, as well as
the ruleset 93 sendmail.cf when you are able.
| If anybody can point me out why it is behaving this
| type of - it will be really
| helpful...
|
| Thanks in advance.
| -Swapna
|
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Mail related issues

2003-08-08 Thread Swapana Ghosh
Hi

   i am facing one problem recently...My server is
cobalt-raq4r. we have created the users through the
cobalt GUI and *sendmail* is running as MTA . Now in
case of the mails. The problem is as follows:

- When one user is sending mail from any address
to one of
  our domain the messages are showing in the
/var/log/maillog as follows:
__
   Aug  8 09:21:11 server sendmail[1712]:
h78GLBP01712: from=[EMAIL PROTECTED],
size=752, class=0, nrcpts=1,
msgid=[EMAIL PROTECTED], pro
to=ESMTP, daemon=MTA, relay=artemis.ixpres.com
[216.240.160.204]
 
Aug  8 09:21:12 server sendmail[1713]: h78GLBP01712:
to=[EMAIL PROTECTED],
 delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:01, mailer=local,
pri=30266, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent
_

When i am checking the mail, the mail is showing in my
mailbox as follows:

Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 09:23:25 -0700
From: Michael A [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Contact Information


I don't want that the To will be assigned as
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

It is not happening for all the users - somtimes i am
seeing that though the maillog
is showing [EMAIL PROTECTED] but the mail is
coming in my inbox as

[EMAIL PROTECTED] For few cases , i am seeing this
type of behavior

If anybody can point me out why it is behaving this
type of - it will be really
helpful...

Thanks in advance.
-Swapna

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Re: mail is not reaching.

2003-08-02 Thread Swapana Ghosh
Hi 

 Few months back I have insalled
*spamassassin* with spamc/spamd
in one of our server. 

 As i have failed in subscribing to the
spamassassin list(they are giving message that they
sent email to my address for authentication but i did
not receive any mail from them till yet :-) )  so i am
asking my questions here. If anybody answers me though
, it will be helpful...

 As i am getting information from our clients
that they are  getting spam mails - that means few
mails are not being filtered by spamc/spamd.  No. of
hits is showing -(ve)

 I checked the log file. I found that the mail
which, one of the clint has reported, those are
showing as *clear messages* .

 Here i is the user-prefs configuration ::

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# How many hits before a mail is considered spam.
required_hits   4
#
# score SYMBOLIC_TEST_NAME n.nn
subject-tag {SPAM?}
report_header   1
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  Here is the mail which client has forwarded
to me::: I have changed the client email address as
per their wish...

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Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Received: from thebestpr1nt1ngs1teever.com
(cpe-24-197-101-203.spart.sc.charter.com
[24.197.101.203])
by server (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id h71NZPP27293
for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 1 Aug 2003 16:35:25 -0700
Message-ID:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: PRINTING CARTRIDGES, Ideal Prices
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 07:44:30 -0600
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain;
charset=us-ascii
X-Priority: 3
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE
V6.00.2800.1106
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by
server id
h71NZPP27293
X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.2 required=4.0

tests=INVALID_MSGID,NO_REAL_NAME,SPAM_PHRASE_01_02,TONER,
  USER_AGENT_OE
version=2.41
X-Spam-Level:

67 Percent off all printing supplies!

Please see our stores,
feel what
others already have, the best ink
cartridges
at an amazining price

I offer any
models including,
Canon,
Lexmark Epson, and HP

 http://u-need-1nk-we-th1nk.com/neb.html
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It will be apprecited if some one guides me and help
me out - Can it be possible to solve this problem if
any thing is set to the user_pref file? The version of
spamassassin , i am running is 2.41. 

Regards.
-Swapna

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Squirrel Mail Test

2003-06-22 Thread James McDonald
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James McDonald
Systems Engineer
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Regarding sendmail mail queue

2003-06-14 Thread Swapana Ghosh


Hi Andrew

 Thanks a lot... Now the mail are coming to my
queue and i am not seeing any rejectiong of smtp
connection in the maillog. So qmail is sending
the mail without holding those defeffed mails in its
queue.
 But one problem is there . All the mails are
now gathered in the /var/spool/mqueue... No mails are
going to senders...
 So here i am stuck again...


I have mentioned the sendmail.mc file below:

Thanks again - pl. let me know what to do again for
generating the mails in queue.

Regards.
-Swapna


Andrew Mathews wrote:
| Hi Andrew
|
|Here is my sendmail.mc file - i am sending
because
| if i missed anything to explain you
|
| divert(-1)
|
| include(`/home/swapna/sendtest/m4/cf.m4')
| VERSIONID(`linux setup for Red Hat
Linux')dnl
| OSTYPE(`linux')
|
| define(`confDEF_USER_ID',``8:12'')dnl

Add   define(`confTRUSTED_USER', `smmsp')dnl here
(And make sure smmsp user exists)

| undefine(`UUCP_RELAY')dnl
| undefine(`BITNET_RELAY')dnl

Change these to:dnl (`UUCP_RELAY')dnl  dnl
(`BITNET_RELAY')dnl
unless you're still using uucp and bitnet.

|define(`confTO_CONNECT', `1m')dnl
|define(`confTRY_NULL_MX_LIST',true)dnl
|define(`confDONT_PROBE_INTERFACES',true)dnl
|   
define(`PROCMAIL_MAILER_PATH',`/usr/bin/procmail')dnl
|define(`confCONNECTION_RATE_THROTTLE',
`50')dnl

Increase this to 75 for now.

|define(`ALIAS_FILE', `/etc/aliases')dnl
|define(`UUCP_MAILER_MAX', `200')dnl

Change this to dnl (`UUCP_MAILER_MAX', `200')dnl
as you don't need it.

|define(`confUSERDB_SPEC',
`/etc/mail/userdb.db')dnl
|define(`confPRIVACY_FLAGS',
`authwarnings,novrfy,noexpn,restrictqrun')dnl
|define(`confAUTH_OPTIONS', `A')dnl
|define(`confTO_IDENT', `0')dnl

Add your define(`conf DELAY_LA', `0')dnl
and  define(`confREFUSE_LA', `0')dnl
here. (0 disables a max threshhold)

|FEATURE(`no_default_msa',`dnl')dnl
|FEATURE(`smrsh',`/usr/sbin/smrsh')dnl
|FEATURE(`mailertable',`hash -o
/etc/mail/mailertable.db')dnl
|FEATURE(`virtusertable',`hash -o
/etc/mail/virtusertable.db')dnl
|FEATURE(redirect)dnl
|FEATURE(always_add_domain)dnl
|FEATURE(use_cw_file)dnl
|FEATURE(use_ct_file)dnl
|FEATURE(local_procmail,`',`procmail -t -Y -a
$h -d $u')dnl
|FEATURE(`access_db',`hash -TTMPF -o
/etc/mail/access.db')dnl
|FEATURE(`blacklist_recipients')dnl

You probably won't use this right now, set it to:
dnl FEATURE(`blacklist_recipients')dnl

|EXPOSED_USER(`root')dnl
|DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Port=smtp,Addr=0.0.0.0,
Name=MTA')dnl

Add  DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Port=submission, Name=MSA,
M=Ea')dnl here.
You don't have a submission port defined (port 587) so
everything is
going across port 25 unnecessarily.

|
|FEATURE(`accept_unresolvable_domains')dnl

Get rid of this one, it's poor security. Set it to:
dnl FEATURE(`accept_unresolvable_domains')dnl

|
|MAILER(smtp)dnl
|MAILER(procmail)dnl
|Cwlocalhost.localdomain
|
 
Andrew Mathews



HERE IS THE MODIFIED SENDMAIL.MC FILE
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  1 divert(-1)
  2 dnl This is the sendmail macro config file. If
you make changes to this file,
  3 dnl you need the sendmail-cf rpm installed and
then have to generate a
  4 dnl new /etc/mail/sendmail.cf by running the
following command:
  5 dnl
  6 dnlm4 /etc/mail/sendmail.mc 
/etc/mail/sendmail.cf
  7 dnl
  8 include(`/home/swapna/sendtest/m4/cf.m4')
  9 VERSIONID(`linux setup for Red Hat Linux')dnl
 10 OSTYPE(`linux')
 11 dnl Uncomment and edit the following line if
your mail needs to be sent out
 12 dnl through an external mail server:
 13 dnl define(`SMART_HOST',`smtp.your.provider')
 14 define(`confDEF_USER_ID',``8:12'')dnl
 15 dnl undefine(`UUCP_RELAY')dnl
 16 dnl undefine(`BITNET_RELAY')dnl
 17 dnl define(`confAUTO_REBUILD')dnl
 18 define(`confTO_CONNECT', `1m')dnl
 19 define(`confTRY_NULL_MX_LIST',true)dnl
 20 define(`confDONT_PROBE_INTERFACES',true)dnl
 21
define(`PROCMAIL_MAILER_PATH',`/usr/bin/procmail')dnl
 22 define(`confCONNECTION_RATE_THROTTLE',
`75')dnl
 23 define(`ALIAS_FILE', `/etc/aliases')dnl
 24 dnl define(`STATUS_FILE',
`/etc/mail/statistics')dnl
 25 dnl define(`UUCP_MAILER_MAX', `200')dnl
 26 define(`confUSERDB_SPEC',
`/etc/mail/userdb.db')dnl
 27 define(`confPRIVACY_FLAGS',
`authwarnings,novrfy,noexpn,restrictqrun')dnl
 28 define(`confAUTH_OPTIONS', `A')dnl
 29 define(`conf DELAY_LA', `0')dnl
 30 define(`confREFUSE_LA', `0')dnl
 31 define(`confQUEUE_SORT_ORDER', `random')dnl
 32 dnl TRUST_AUTH_MECH(`EXTERNAL DIGEST-MD5
CRAM-MD5 LOGIN PLAIN')dnl
 33 dnl define(`confAUTH_MECHANISMS', `EXTERNAL
GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 L

Regarding sendmail mail queue

2003-06-14 Thread Swapana Ghosh


Hi Andrew

 Thanks a lot
 I waited almost 1 hr just to see if my luck
favours.  But i found that after more than an hr mail
started to generate from the queue and finally all
mails have been sent...

Best Regards.
-Swapna



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Related sendmail mail queue

2003-06-14 Thread Swapana Ghosh
Hi 

When i am processing 10,000 subscribers for the
mailing list testing,  then the records took 15 mints
to clear the qmail queue and after 15 mints i checked
that all the records came to sendmail queue and then
it started for clearing the queue.
But when the same testing i did with 50,000 
records, I guessed that altogether qmail willl take 75
mints to clear its mailq?
 But i saw that the processing became very slow in
the middle. I mean sendmail was accepting the mail
very slowlyAnd finally all the mails to come from
qmail server to sendmail server, took almost 4 hrs
 As the qmail doc is telling that qmail clears the
50k queue in 1 hr or less(if it does not have any
deferred mails) then.. what should i think ...Is it
the sendmail that slagging down the process for
handling the huge queue? Moreover the server i am 
using for processing the list where qmail is
installed, it is
intel XEON with multiprocessors - I mean physically 4
CPUs are running.. 
 I have now created 5 users and each users for
10,000   aliases, that means purposely i have
distributed the records in between 5 users... 
 How can i process more quickly in my sendmail
server.. I want that it will process its mail queue
more quickly so that the qmail server can generate
50,000 records to sendmsail server within 1 hr or
less
 In my earlier mail , i have posted the
sendmail.mc file

Your suggession is always appreciated...

Thanks again
Best regards.
-Swapna

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Re: Related sendmail mail queue

2003-06-14 Thread Net Llama!
How much memory does this box have?  What kind of HDs?  What's the load 
like when its taking an hour to send mail?  Which version of sendmail? 
Which kernel version?  What kind of network connection do you have (type 
 speed)?

On 06/14/03 18:54, Swapana Ghosh wrote:

Hi 

When i am processing 10,000 subscribers for the
mailing list testing,  then the records took 15 mints
to clear the qmail queue and after 15 mints i checked
that all the records came to sendmail queue and then
it started for clearing the queue.
But when the same testing i did with 50,000 
records, I guessed that altogether qmail willl take 75
mints to clear its mailq?
 But i saw that the processing became very slow in
the middle. I mean sendmail was accepting the mail
very slowlyAnd finally all the mails to come from
qmail server to sendmail server, took almost 4 hrs
 As the qmail doc is telling that qmail clears the
50k queue in 1 hr or less(if it does not have any
deferred mails) then.. what should i think ...Is it
the sendmail that slagging down the process for
handling the huge queue? Moreover the server i am 
using for processing the list where qmail is
installed, it is
intel XEON with multiprocessors - I mean physically 4
CPUs are running.. 
 I have now created 5 users and each users for
10,000   aliases, that means purposely i have
distributed the records in between 5 users... 
 How can i process more quickly in my sendmail
server.. I want that it will process its mail queue
more quickly so that the qmail server can generate
50,000 records to sendmsail server within 1 hr or
less
 In my earlier mail , i have posted the
sendmail.mc file

Your suggession is always appreciated...
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Re: Related sendmail mail queue

2003-06-14 Thread Andrew Mathews
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Swapana Ghosh wrote:
| Hi
|
| When i am processing 10,000 subscribers for the
| mailing list testing,  then the records took 15 mints
| to clear the qmail queue and after 15 mints i checked
| that all the records came to sendmail queue and then
| it started for clearing the queue.
| But when the same testing i did with 50,000
| records, I guessed that altogether qmail willl take 75
| mints to clear its mailq?
|  But i saw that the processing became very slow in
| the middle. I mean sendmail was accepting the mail
| very slowlyAnd finally all the mails to come from
| qmail server to sendmail server, took almost 4 hrs
|  As the qmail doc is telling that qmail clears the
| 50k queue in 1 hr or less(if it does not have any
| deferred mails) then.. what should i think ...Is it
| the sendmail that slagging down the process for
| handling the huge queue? Moreover the server i am
| using for processing the list where qmail is
| installed, it is
| intel XEON with multiprocessors - I mean physically 4
| CPUs are running..
|  I have now created 5 users and each users for
| 10,000   aliases, that means purposely i have
| distributed the records in between 5 users...
|  How can i process more quickly in my sendmail
| server.. I want that it will process its mail queue
| more quickly so that the qmail server can generate
| 50,000 records to sendmsail server within 1 hr or
| less
|  In my earlier mail , i have posted the
| sendmail.mc file
|
| Your suggession is always appreciated...
|
| Thanks again
| Best regards.
| -Swapna
|


To process the sendmail queue more frequently, check your init script
for it. On a Red Hat system look at /etc/sysconfig/sendmail. It will
show something like:
DAEMON=yes
QUEUE=1h
Change the QUEUE to something like 5m to process it once a minute. This
is extreme, so use it at your own risk.
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Re: Related sendmail mail queue

2003-06-14 Thread Andrew Mathews
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Andrew Mathews wrote:
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| Change the QUEUE to something like 5m to process it once a minute. This
| is extreme, so use it at your own risk.
snip
Typo. 5m is every 5 minutes, not once a minute. Sorry.
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Related sendmail mail queue

2003-06-14 Thread Swapana Ghosh
Hi 

How much memory does this box have?

The OS Redhat linux 8.0  

Mem:  517156864 306970624 2101862400 54534144
178073600
Swap: 107347148820480 1073451008
MemTotal:   505036 kB
MemFree:205260 kB
MemShared:   0 kB
Buffers: 53256 kB
Cached: 173892 kB
SwapCached:  8 kB
Active: 159200 kB
Inact_dirty: 96288 kB
Inact_clean:  1308 kB
Inact_target:51356 kB
HighTotal:   0 kB
HighFree:0 kB
LowTotal:   505036 kB
LowFree:205260 kB
SwapTotal: 1048312 kB
SwapFree:  1048292 kB
Committed_AS:75752 kB

What kind of HDs?  What's the load 
like when its taking an hour to send mail? 

Load is varying 15 - 22 ...in this server only i am
running sendmail
NO other processing is going on.

 Which version of sendmail? 

sendmail-8.12.5-7


Which kernel version? 

kernel-2.4.18-14

 

Regards.
-Swapna

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Re: Related sendmail mail queue

2003-06-14 Thread Net Llama!
On 06/14/03 20:55, Swapana Ghosh wrote:

What kind of HDs?  What's the load 
What kind of HDs?

like when its taking an hour to send mail? 
Load is varying 15 - 22 ...in this server only i am
running sendmail
NO other processing is going on.
Something is not right if the load is that high.

What kind of a network is this on?

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Transferring Mozilla Mail filter rules between installations

2003-04-04 Thread James McDonald
Folks,

I have mozilla installed as my IMAP client on WinXP and MDK9.0.

I blow away my sessions change profiles and generally gig around with 
mozilla regularly I am wondering is it possible to transfer the basic 
Mail filter rules so that I don't have to labouriously go in and create 
them new each time.

James

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Re: Transferring Mozilla Mail filter rules between installations

2003-04-04 Thread Andrew Mathews
James McDonald wrote:
Folks,

I have mozilla installed as my IMAP client on WinXP and MDK9.0.

I blow away my sessions change profiles and generally gig around with 
mozilla regularly I am wondering is it possible to transfer the basic 
Mail filter rules so that I don't have to labouriously go in and create 
them new each time.

James

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Move or copy the rules.dat to or from your 
~/.mozilla/username/profilename/ImapMail/servername directory.
If you have multiple IMAP servers, of course be careful to move it to 
the correct one. :)
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RE: Transferring Mozilla Mail filter rules between installations

2003-04-04 Thread Jack Berger
On an windows box it should go into:
\Documents and Settings\username\Application Data\Mozilla
   \Profiles\name\xxx.slt\Imapmail\servername\rules.dat

-jhb-

 -Original Message-
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 Subject: Re: Transferring Mozilla Mail filter rules between
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 James McDonald wrote:
  Folks,
  
  I have mozilla installed as my IMAP client on WinXP and MDK9.0.
  
  I blow away my sessions change profiles and generally gig 
 around with 
  mozilla regularly I am wondering is it possible to transfer 
 the basic 
  Mail filter rules so that I don't have to labouriously go 
 in and create 
  them new each time.
  
  James
  
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 Move or copy the rules.dat to or from your 
 ~/.mozilla/username/profilename/ImapMail/servername directory.
 If you have multiple IMAP servers, of course be careful to move it to 
 the correct one. :)
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CORE-20030304-02: Vulnerability in Mutt Mail User Agent

2003-03-22 Thread CORE Security Technologies Advisories
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  Core Security Technologies Advisory
  http://www.coresecurity.com

  Vulnerability in Mutt Mail User Agent

Date Published: 2003-03-20

Last Update: 2003-03-19

Advisory ID: CORE-20030304-02

Bugtraq ID: 7120

CVE CAN: None currently assigned

Title: Mutt Controlled IMAP server buffer overflow

Class: Boundary Error Condition (Buffer Overflow)

Remotely Exploitable: Yes

Locally Exploitable: No

Advisory URL:
  http://www.coresecurity.com/common/showdoc.php?idx=310idxseccion=10

Vendors notified:
  . Core Notification: 2003-03-11
  . Notification aknowledged by Mutt: 2003-03-12
  . Fix developed by  Mutt: 2003-03-17
  . Fix incorporated to releases of Mutt stable and unstable branches:
 2003-03-19 . Public announcement of fixed packages: 2003-03-19

Release Mode: COORDINATED RELEASE

*Vulnerability Description:*

  Mutt is a very popular small text-based MUA (Mail User Agent) for
  Unix operating systems.
  For more information about Mutt visit http://www.mutt.org

  The Mutt Mail User Agent (MUA) has support for accessing remote
  mailboxes through the IMAP protocol.

  By controlling a malicious IMAP server and providing a specially
  crafted folder, an attacker can crash the mail reader and possibly
  force execution of arbitrary commands on the vulnerable system
  with the privileges of the user running Mutt.

*Vulnerable Packages:*

  Versions of Mutt up to, and including,  1.4.0 (stable)
  Versions of Mutt up to,  and including, 1.5.3 (unstable)

*Solution/Vendor Information/Workaround:*

  Mutt 1.4.1 (stable branch) and 1.5.4 (unstable) have been
  released with a fix for the vulnerability.

  These versions will soon be available from ftp://ftp.mutt.org/mutt/.

*Credits:*

  This vulnerability was found by Diego Kelyacoubian, Javier Kohen,
  Alberto Solino, and Juan Vera from Core Security Technologies
  during Bugweek 2003 (March 3-7, 2003).

  We would like to thank Thomas Roessler, Edmund Grimley Evans and
  Marco d'Itri for their quick response to our report and the
  generation of fixed Mutt packages.

*Technical Description - Exploit/Concept Code:*

  According to the RFC2060 (INTERNET MESSAGE ACCESS PROTOCOL -
  VERSION 4rev1), section 5.1.3: By convention, international mailbox
  names are specified using a modified version of the UTF-7 encoding
  described in [UTF-7].

  When mutt has to convert from its internal representation in UTF-8 to
  UTF-7-like encoding it calls indirectly the function utf8_to_utf7() in
  module imap/utf7.c. The aforementioned function miscalculates the
  maximum output length; therefore provided that one can control the
  IMAP server, it is possible to craft a folder name that will generate
  output at least 50% larger than the calculated maximum.

  These perl oneliners will generate two different folder names
  whose length is past the calculated maximum:

   perl -e 'print (chr(0x10) x 20)'
   perl -e 'print ((chr(0x10) . chr(0x41)) x 20)'

  The second produces a longer output after conversion. It might be
  necessary to increase the multiplier to see Mutt crash.

  A post-mortem analysis of the crashed process shows:

#0  0x4207434f in _int_realloc () from /lib/i686/libc.so.6
#1  0x42073416 in realloc () from /lib/i686/libc.so.6
#2  0x080aafbd in safe_realloc (p=0xbfffe194, siz=121) at lib.c:96
#3  0x080c58d2 in utf8_to_utf7 (u8=0x80f5708 , u8len=0, u7=0xbfffe1d4,
 u7len=0x0) at utf7.c:237
#4  0x080c5961 in imap_utf7_encode (s=0xbfffe1d4) at utf7.c:252
#5  0x080c4cf7 in imap_munge_mbox_name (
 dest=0xbfffe720
imap://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/\020A\020A\020A\020A\020A\020A\020A\020A
\020A\020A\020A\020A\020A\020A\020A\020A\020A\020A\020A\020A,
 dlen=1024,
 src=0x80f0e90
\020A\020A\020A\020A\020A\020A\020A\020A\020A\020A\020A\020A\020A
\020A\020A\020A\020A\020A\020A\020A)
at util.c:507
#6  0x080bfe65 in imap_open_mailbox (ctx=0x80f0d78) at imap.c:548
#7  0x08082cca in mx_open_mailbox (
 path=0xbfffedd0
imap://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/\020A\020A\020A\020A\020A\020A\020A\020A
\020A\020A\020A\020A\020A\020A\020A\020A\020A\020A\020A\020A,
flags=0,
 pctx=0x0) at mx.c:694
#8  0x0805ff66 in mutt_index_menu () at curs_main.c:1032
#9  0x08079083 in main (argc=3, argv=0xba04) at main.c:841
#10 0x420158d4 in __libc_start_main () from /lib/i686/libc.so.6

gdb) x/10i $pc
0x4207434f _int_realloc+175:  testb  $0x1,0x4(%eax,%esi,1)
0x42074354 _int_realloc+180:  jne0x4207440b _int_realloc+363
0x4207435a _int_realloc+186:  mov0xffe8(%ebp),%edi
0x4207435d _int_realloc+189:  add%eax,%edi
0x4207435f _int_realloc+191:  cmp0xfff0(%ebp),%edi
0x42074362 _int_realloc+194:  jb 0x4207440b _int_realloc+363
0x42074368 _int_realloc+200:  mov0x8(%esi),%edx
0x4207436b _int_realloc+203:  mov0xc(%esi),%eax
0x4207436e _int_realloc+206:  mov%eax,0xc(%edx)
0x42074371 _int_realloc+209:  mov%edx,0x8(%eax)
(gdb) p/x $eax
$22

ADMIN: mail is back

2003-03-04 Thread Douglas J Hunley
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luckily, mimedefang covered us during the short time we were vulnerable. 
please, keep your anti-sendmail comments to yourself. thanks
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Re: Hosed linux-sxs.org mail Re: OT Re: Ogg

2003-02-22 Thread stayler
On Sat, 22 Feb 2003 19:08:58 -0800, Net Llama! wrote:

problem is that the load on the box is over 20.00, with mimedefang.pl 
going bezerk.

Thats interesting.  Is there a relaying issue?

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Re: Mail Question

2003-02-10 Thread David A. Bandel
On Mon, 10 Feb 2003 14:22:08 +0800
Chong Yu Meng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[snip]
 
 Problem : The mail will be delivered if the recipient has a email 
 account on XYZ.com (i.e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]), but if the recipient
 belongs to some other domain, the mail will not get delivered.

relay problem -- you're not permitted to relay.  The mail server must
accept mail from the web host for relay.  You need an entry in
/etc/mail/access for the web server.

[snip]

 
 After discussing this problem with the ISP, I was told that one 
 workaround is to install an SMTP agent on my server.

This will work, but you may find some mails servers complaining about
your not having an MX address.  Best to have the mail sent to a system
you are permitted to relay through that is a legitimate e-mail server. 
That server can always rewrite the mail header any way you need.

[snip]

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Re: Mail Question

2003-02-10 Thread stayler
HI!

Yes as your sendmail should simply go directly to the recipients mail
server.  Or the simpler alternative is to direct the email through
whatever email server your machine is allowed to relay through already.
 That will accomplish the same result without needing sendmail.  

Stayler

On Mon, 10 Feb 2003 14:22:08 +0800, Chong Yu Meng wrote:

My question is this :
Was the engineer just blowing smoke at me, or does that actually work ?
If the MX record of XYZ.com points to another server (and I can't change 
the record), and I install sendmail or postfix on my server, and point 
my servlet to localhost as the SMTP server, will mail delivery 
succeed, even if mail relaying is denied ?

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Mail Question

2003-02-09 Thread Chong Yu Meng
Ok, here's my first question on the list :

Scenario : Company XYZ, which I used to work for, deployed a server in a 
certain local ISP. I wrote a Java servlet that tries to mail the results 
 of  a form to the server administrator, along with an acknowledgement 
email to the person who filled out the form.

Problem : The mail will be delivered if the recipient has a email 
account on XYZ.com (i.e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]), but if the recipient belongs 
to some other domain, the mail will not get delivered.

I'm thinking that this is probably a mail server problem, and, in fact, 
I have found that other companies that hosted with this ISP have similar 
problems. The mail server does not appear to accept relaying.

Since I have already left the company, getting access to the error logs 
is not really an option.

After discussing this problem with the ISP, I was told that one 
workaround is to install an SMTP agent on my server.

My question is this :
Was the engineer just blowing smoke at me, or does that actually work ?
If the MX record of XYZ.com points to another server (and I can't change 
the record), and I install sendmail or postfix on my server, and point 
my servlet to localhost as the SMTP server, will mail delivery 
succeed, even if mail relaying is denied ?

Any help clarifying this would be greatly appreciated !

Regards,
pascal chong

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Re: fetchmail choked on a piece of mail

2003-02-06 Thread Joel Hammer

On Wed, Feb 05, 2003 at 11:31:37PM -0500, Kurt Wall wrote:
 Some sort of unexpected (duh) binary character? Did it stop at the 
 same location each time?

Yes, it seemed to. 

It was long, but not dramtically long, perhaps two lines of dots instead
of the usual 1/4th line or so. 

Joel
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fetchmail choked on a piece of mail

2003-02-05 Thread Joel Hammer
My incoming mail goes to various mail servers on the internet, and I run
fetchmail to get them from various POP servers.

Today, for the first time in memory, when  fetchmail tried getting my mail,
a particular piece of mail kept freezing during the download and fetchmail
would finally stop, giving  an error message of some sort or another.
I had to go onto the server with telnet and delete that piece of mail,
then, all went well.

So, the question: What kind of mail would freeze the download and kill
fetchmail?

Joel

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Re: fetchmail choked on a piece of mail

2003-02-05 Thread Net Llama!
On 02/05/03 19:56, Joel Hammer wrote:

My incoming mail goes to various mail servers on the internet, and I run
fetchmail to get them from various POP servers.

Today, for the first time in memory, when  fetchmail tried getting my mail,
a particular piece of mail kept freezing during the download and fetchmail
would finally stop, giving  an error message of some sort or another.
I had to go onto the server with telnet and delete that piece of mail,
then, all went well.

So, the question: What kind of mail would freeze the download and kill
fetchmail?


some f00l who sent you a 948MB attachment?

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Re: fetchmail choked on a piece of mail

2003-02-05 Thread Kurt Wall
Feigning erudition, Joel Hammer wrote:
% My incoming mail goes to various mail servers on the internet, and I run
% fetchmail to get them from various POP servers.
% 
% Today, for the first time in memory, when  fetchmail tried getting my mail,
% a particular piece of mail kept freezing during the download and fetchmail
% would finally stop, giving  an error message of some sort or another.
% I had to go onto the server with telnet and delete that piece of mail,
% then, all went well.
% 
% So, the question: What kind of mail would freeze the download and kill
% fetchmail?

Some sort of unexpected (duh) binary character? Did it stop at the 
same location each time?

Kurt
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RE: several pop mail acounts...

2003-02-03 Thread Wil McGilvery
How about fetchmail?

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-Original Message-
From: Bill Day [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 11:57 AM
To: linux users
Subject: several pop mail acounts...

I have several popmail accounts and would like to pull them all down to my
linux box(which also has its own mail server, that works)...

What all do I need..?

I have running Trustix realease of postfix-0.0.20010228.pl08-2tr.

TIA,

Bill Day

Linux 2.2.20-1tr i586
 10:10am  up 29 days, 15:45,  0 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.01, 0.00
We're still up at irc.openprojects.net @ #linux-users
or irc.freenode.net @ #linux-users
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several pop mail acounts...

2003-02-03 Thread Bill Day
I have several popmail accounts and would like to pull them all down to my
linux box(which also has its own mail server, that works)...

What all do I need..?

I have running Trustix realease of postfix-0.0.20010228.pl08-2tr.

TIA,

Bill Day

Linux 2.2.20-1tr i586
 10:10am  up 29 days, 15:45,  0 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.01, 0.00
We're still up at irc.openprojects.net @ #linux-users
or irc.freenode.net @ #linux-users
http://counter.li.org #83358
http://sxs.daysdomain.com/



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Re: Mozilla mail question

2003-01-10 Thread kwall
Feigning erudition, Susan Macchia wrote:
% Hi all,
% 
% I use Mozilla connecting to the exchange server which is POP.  I like mozilla
% much better, with its color coding of the inbox, etc.  When I receive outlook
% html formatted email, it looks like plain text in mozilla.  This is a real
% problem because in lengthy conversations, it becomes much more difficult to
% follow since color coding and font changes may be used.  I have tried saving an
% Outlook mail that I've sent as html and then reading it with mozilla, and it
% looks fine.  This leads me to believe that the html produced by outlook is
% readable by mozilla.  When I read email that I've sent (formatted as html), it
% looks fine in both outlook and mozilla.
% 
% I've searched the mozilla preferces over and over to see if there is some kind
% of setting, but don't see anything.  Does anyone have any idea what mozilla
% could be doing?
% 
% BTW, I tried Kmail and it has the same problem!  So it could be something in
% outlook?  Ideas of where I could start to look would be welcome.

Hmm. What I would do is to look at the HTML Outlook produces and see what 
it is doing that may be confusing Mozilla.  Could it be something that is
fixed in a newer version of Mozilla?

Kurt
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Re: Mozilla mail question

2003-01-10 Thread Jason Joines
Susan Macchia wrote:


Hi all,

Before I state my problem, I want to apologize for this not being a linux only
question.  But I thought that some of you might have experienced this problem. 
Ok, here goes:

At my job most folks use MS Outlook for email and generally format their email
in HTML.

I use Mozilla connecting to the exchange server which is POP.  I like mozilla
much better, with its color coding of the inbox, etc.  When I receive outlook
html formatted email, it looks like plain text in mozilla.  This is a real
problem because in lengthy conversations, it becomes much more difficult to
follow since color coding and font changes may be used.  I have tried saving an
Outlook mail that I've sent as html and then reading it with mozilla, and it
looks fine.  This leads me to believe that the html produced by outlook is
readable by mozilla.  When I read email that I've sent (formatted as html), it
looks fine in both outlook and mozilla.

I've searched the mozilla preferces over and over to see if there is some kind
of setting, but don't see anything.  Does anyone have any idea what mozilla
could be doing?

BTW, I tried Kmail and it has the same problem!  So it could be something in
outlook?  Ideas of where I could start to look would be welcome.

TIA


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   There is an article in the February issue of Linux Journal about 
replacing Microshaft Exchange (there is a commercial product at 
http://www.bynari.net/insightserver.html). 

   From what I can tell Outlook users who connect to the Exchange 
server exchange messages in a proprietary format with proprietary 
headers (Corporate WorkGroup Mode).  When you connect with Mozilla as a 
POP client, it can't decode this format.  If your send mail with 
Mozilla, it never converts the mail to a non standard format, so you can 
read it just fine.  If the Outlook users were to be connected to a 
standard POP/IMAP server they would be in Internet Mail Only Mode and 
would stick closer to the standard so you could probably read their 
stuff.  If your mail were on a different non-Exchange system, mail from 
your Outlook/Exchange users would have to go through an MTA which would 
recode the message and headers to standard before sending it on to the 
remote system.  You should be able to read that fine too.  The problem 
is indeed the use of a non-standards based mail system.

   We have a similar situation here.  The primary campus mail system is 
Lotus Blotes.  It uses a proprietary format for messages between Blotes 
Client/Server users.  If a message is sent to a non Blotes mail system, 
the MTA converts it to standard (usually very poorly, I'm sure the same 
is true of Exchange).  If a user connects to the Blotes server with a 
standard client, such as Mozilla, via POP/IMAP they cannot view the 
formatting of the message properly because it is still in a Blotes 
proprietary format.

Only thing I know that might work is to have your mail forwarded to 
another non-Exchange server and see if the MTA converts it to standards 
well enough for your client to interpret it.

Jason Joines
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