Re: RBL list
Quoth Gary Wilson: > Does anyone have a current RBL list that is working? Not I. K -- It's not an optical illusion, it just looks like one. -- Phil White ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
RBL list
Does anyone have a current RBL list that is working? Gary __ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Linux users' mailing list down? SOLVED!
The urlsin the web pages don't work, so the smtp... address worked fine! Thanks for responding! = _ Susan Macchia mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ - Running Linux - because life is too short for reboots... ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Linux users' mailing list down? (fwd)
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 10:35:21 -0600 From: Andrew Mathews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Linux users' mailing list down? -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Susan Macchia wrote: | For the last several weeks, when I try to access the mailing list (to change my | subscription from temp on, to off, or to look at the archives | (http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users), I get the following error: | | | Not Found | The requested URL /mailman/listinfo/linux-users was not found on this server. | | Apache/1.3.27 Server at www.linux-sxs.org Port 80 | | | | I have tried several of the mirrors with the same or similar results. Since I | can't read the list mail, or get the digest, could someone let me know what | gives? | | TIA, | | Susan | Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users This is rather self explanatory, but you'll notice in the message footer above that it's smtp.linux-sxs.org not linux-sxs.org. Try it, I bet you get a different result. Not when she fails to get any list mail, and can't access the archives. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Linux users' mailing list down?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Susan Macchia wrote: | For the last several weeks, when I try to access the mailing list (to change my | subscription from temp on, to off, or to look at the archives | (http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users), I get the following error: | | | Not Found | The requested URL /mailman/listinfo/linux-users was not found on this server. | | Apache/1.3.27 Server at www.linux-sxs.org Port 80 | | | | I have tried several of the mirrors with the same or similar results. Since I | can't read the list mail, or get the digest, could someone let me know what | gives? | | TIA, | | Susan | | = | _ | Susan Macchia | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | _ | | - Running Linux - because life is too short for reboots... | ___ | Linux-users mailing list | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users This is rather self explanatory, but you'll notice in the message footer above that it's smtp.linux-sxs.org not linux-sxs.org. Try it, I bet you get a different result. - -- Andrew Mathews - - ~ 10:32am up 34 days, 3:51, 14 users, load average: 3.84, 2.71, 2.10 - - Order and simplification are the first steps toward mastery of a subject - -- the actual enemy is the unknown. -- Thomas Mann -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Netscape - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/mANIejAu2RVHwF4RAjDiAJ4gY6iUb4ckMml+t0wMWPimSz+3owCcD0xe V4WVw3QF9my2pgy5TOBlR5k= =2CU5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Linux users' mailing list down?
For the last several weeks, when I try to access the mailing list (to change my subscription from temp on, to off, or to look at the archives (http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users), I get the following error: Not Found The requested URL /mailman/listinfo/linux-users was not found on this server. Apache/1.3.27 Server at www.linux-sxs.org Port 80 I have tried several of the mirrors with the same or similar results. Since I can't read the list mail, or get the digest, could someone let me know what gives? TIA, Susan = _ Susan Macchia mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ - Running Linux - because life is too short for reboots... ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: procmail recipe and this list
On Wed, Oct 01, 2003, Tim Wunder wrote: >List-Id I too use List-Id, but this changed recently. The selection rules I use in my deliver based mailbox selection are: Header: pattern : Maildir Mailbox List-Id: linux-users.mail.linux-sxs.org : bulk.linux-users List-Id: linux-users.linux-sxs.org : bulk.linux-users >On Wednesday 01 October 2003 1:42 am, someone claiming to be Keith Morse >wrote: >> I can understand changing the MLM's host name at will, but it keeps >> whacking my procmail recipe. Traditionally I've been using X-BeenThere: >> on Mailman based lists. What do others use to filter this list? >> ___ >> Linux-users mailing list >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> >> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users > >-- >RedHat 8.0 Kernel 2.4.20-20.8, KDE 3.1.3, Xfree86 4.2.1 > 7:10am up 3 days, 23:33, 1 user, load average: 0.07, 0.12, 0.05 >It's what you learn after you know it all that counts > >___ >Linux-users mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users > -- Bill -- INTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC UUCP: camco!bill PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX:(206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 URL: http://www.celestial.com/ ``...I'm not one of those who think Bill Gates is the devil. I simply suspect that if Microsoft ever met up with the devil, it wouldn't need an interpreter.'' -- Nick Petreley ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: procmail recipe and this list
List-Id On Wednesday 01 October 2003 1:42 am, someone claiming to be Keith Morse wrote: > I can understand changing the MLM's host name at will, but it keeps > whacking my procmail recipe. Traditionally I've been using X-BeenThere: > on Mailman based lists. What do others use to filter this list? > ___ > Linux-users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> > http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- RedHat 8.0 Kernel 2.4.20-20.8, KDE 3.1.3, Xfree86 4.2.1 7:10am up 3 days, 23:33, 1 user, load average: 0.07, 0.12, 0.05 It's what you learn after you know it all that counts ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
procmail recipe and this list
I can understand changing the MLM's host name at will, but it keeps whacking my procmail recipe. Traditionally I've been using X-BeenThere: on Mailman based lists. What do others use to filter this list? ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: list
On Sat, 13 Sep 2003, Rick Sivernell wrote: > stupid problem needing simple answer. I have rebuilt my system and remounted > several partitions when completed. I now have permission denied on the binary > programs. They all have : rwxrwxr__ rick users and I am loged > in as rick in group users. I have tried re chmod but nothing changes the ability > to have the programs perform. Any help or suggestions appreciated. So you're saying thatr even after setting the binaries to 777 you cannot execute them? THen you most likely need to use chattr (see the man page). How did you back this stuff up that the perms on the binaries are all screwed? -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step & TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
RE: list
Rick Sivernell wrote: > List > > stupid problem needing simple answer. I have rebuilt my system and > remounted several partitions when completed. I now have permission > denied on the binary programs. They all have : rwxrwxr__ rick > users and I am loged in as rick in group users. I have > tried re chmod but nothing changes the ability to have the programs > perform. Any help or suggestions appreciated. > > cheers Is the directory executable? Tom :-}) Thomas A. Condon Plain Text Emails Don't Spread Virii! ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
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List stupid problem needing simple answer. I have rebuilt my system and remounted several partitions when completed. I now have permission denied on the binary programs. They all have : rwxrwxr__ rick users and I am loged in as rick in group users. I have tried re chmod but nothing changes the ability to have the programs perform. Any help or suggestions appreciated. cheers -- Rick Sivernell Dallas, Texas 75287 972 306-2296 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gentoo Linux Registered Linux User .~. / v \ /( _ )\ ^ ^ In Linux we trust! ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: can't mail list from kmail
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ken Moffat shocked and awed us all by speaking: > Maybe the from header in kmail is showing an unsubscribed email address? > just a thought/guess... we allow unsubbed emails onto the list... - -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 http://doug.hunley.homeip.net && http://www.linux-sxs.org To ensure privacy and data integrity this message has been encrypted using dual rounds of ROT-13 encryption. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/XhvR2MO5UukaubkRAn00AJ9wTxJWJ22TmDBtL8q9pGltRuYe+ACfXwGb 5sj5DUm4g7GDbPZahAsj7/E= =bYxD -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: can't mail list from kmail
Net Llama! wrote: On 09/07/03 10:19, Marianne Taylor wrote: Anybody have any idea why I can't mail the list from kmail, but can from Mozilla? kmail is set up properly and I can e-mail my work account. What do you mean by "can't"? Is it bouncing? If so, what does the bounce look like? I get no response at all. No problem from Mozilla. Where would I look for hidden headers, since I can't mail any lists? ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: can't mail list from kmail
On September 7, 2003 12:04, Marianne Taylor wrote: > On September 7, 2003 10:38, Net Llama! wrote: > > On 09/07/03 10:19, Marianne Taylor wrote: > > > Anybody have any idea why I can't mail the list from kmail, but can > > > from Mozilla? kmail is set up properly and I can e-mail my work > > > account. > > > > What do you mean by "can't"? Is it bouncing? If so, what does the > > bounce look like? > > Testing? > > ___ > Linux-users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> > http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users OK solved my own problem. Under default identity I hadn't specified an e-mail address, but with putting this in it now works. Thanks ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: can't mail list from kmail
On September 7, 2003 10:38, Net Llama! wrote: > On 09/07/03 10:19, Marianne Taylor wrote: > > Anybody have any idea why I can't mail the list from kmail, but can from > > Mozilla? kmail is set up properly and I can e-mail my work account. > > What do you mean by "can't"? Is it bouncing? If so, what does the bounce > look like? Testing? ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: can't mail list from kmail
On 09/07/03 10:19, Marianne Taylor wrote: Anybody have any idea why I can't mail the list from kmail, but can from Mozilla? kmail is set up properly and I can e-mail my work account. What do you mean by "can't"? Is it bouncing? If so, what does the bounce look like? -- ~ L. Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step & TyGeMo:http://netllama.ipfox.com 10:35am up 1 day, 21:29, 1 user, load average: 0.12, 0.13, 0.06 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: can't mail list from kmail
Marianne Taylor wrote: Anybody have any idea why I can't mail the list from kmail, but can from Mozilla? kmail is set up properly and I can e-mail my work account. Does kmail work with other subscribed mailing lists? Maybe the from header in kmail is showing an unsubscribed email address? just a thought/guess... -- Ken ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
can't mail list from kmail
Anybody have any idea why I can't mail the list from kmail, but can from Mozilla? kmail is set up properly and I can e-mail my work account. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: linux-users list passing on virii@earthlink.net
Tim Wunder wrote: But isn't it *really* just passing on failure notices of undeliverable virii? Some of which have the virii still attached. Can't the failure notices get filtered out? Tim I am getting these with the digest. I will have to unsubscribe until they are filtered out. I only have dial-up, and they are clogging my mail. I'd appreciate it if you (Tim) would send me a private post when this gets cleaned up. Au revoir. -- Leon A. Goldstein Powered by Libranet 2.8 Debian System G2 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: linux-users list passing on virii
On 9/2/2003 8:12 AM, someone claiming to be Collins Richey wrote: On Mon, 01 Sep 2003 22:45:15 -0500 Jack Berger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: For what it's worth - I haven't got one from the list. And I don't think I missed any messages. We could always forward our copies to you. But isn't it *really* just passing on failure notices of undeliverable virii? Some of which have the virii still attached. Can't the failure notices get filtered out? Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: linux-users list passing on virii
On Mon, 01 Sep 2003 22:45:15 -0500 Jack Berger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For what it's worth - I haven't got one from the list. And I don't > think I missed any messages. > We could always forward our copies to you. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area if you fill your heart with regrets of yesterday and the worries of tomorrow, you have no today to be thankful for. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: linux-users list passing on virii
For what it's worth - I haven't got one from the list. And I don't think I missed any messages. -jhb- From: Gerry Doris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> For what it's worth I sent a virus passed to me through this mailing list >> to Antony Stone on the MailScanner list. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
linux-users list passing on virii
For what it's worth I sent a virus passed to me through this mailing list to Antony Stone on the MailScanner list. He is running several virus scanners. He confirmed that ClamAV doesn't find this virus. In fact, here's the pertinent part of his reply message. > It got picked up as Sobig.F by Bitdefender, F-Prot, Inoculan and McAfee, > which on my system means that it got missed by ClamAV, Kaspersky and > NOD32 (I run several antivirus engines on a single machine for exactly > this sort of comparison!). On my system I use MailScanner to run F-Prot, TrendMicro, and ClamAV. Only ClamAV is missing the virus. If I remember correctly the list is just using ClamAV. -- Gerry "The lyfe so short, the craft so long to learne" Chaucer ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: sxs list urls?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tony Alfrey shocked and awed us all by speaking: > Hi! > > I have a comment/suggestion/question about the list format. If I find a > step on the list which I then wish to send to someone as a link, the > url for that particular page does not appear in the browser location > bar, only http://linux-sxs.org/inde2.html appears. I think that is the > link for the left-hand frame, not the actual sxs. Is there a way to > make the path to the actual step appear somewhere? that is by design. keeps people from bookmarking/deep-linking content. that way when we move shit around, it don't break, cause everyone's links are to the "front door" ... Llama's solution works. Also, should anyone have ideas/flames/whatever, send to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 http://doug.hunley.homeip.net && http://www.linux-sxs.org If the automobile had followed the same development as the computer a Rolls Royce would today cost $100, get a million miles per gallon and explode once a year killing everybody inside. - Robert Cringeley (InfoWorld) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/JVfD2MO5UukaubkRAnITAJ4zjzimgOt7jlNaSsyv+7Uv8XDukQCfafsU hHM1GqKnOhQNe5SyZzcvLyM= =9K45 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: sxs list urls?
On Monday 28 July 2003 06:46 am, Net Llama! wrote: > On Mon, 28 Jul 2003, Tony Alfrey wrote: > > Hi! > > > > I have a comment/suggestion/question about the list format. If I > > find a step on the list which I then wish to send to someone as a > > link, the url for that particular page does not appear in the > > browser location bar, only http://linux-sxs.org/inde2.html appears. > > I think that is the link for the left-hand frame, not the actual > > sxs. Is there a way to make the path to the actual step appear > > somewhere? > > In Mozilla, you could always right click on the page, and open it as > a new frame. Oh, that's very good. Works just fine in several versions of Netscape. Thanks! -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd Rather Be Sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: sxs list urls?
On Mon, 28 Jul 2003 09:46:35 -0400 (EDT) Net Llama! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 28 Jul 2003, Tony Alfrey wrote: > > Hi! > > > > I have a comment/suggestion/question about the list format. If I find a > > step on the list which I then wish to send to someone as a link, the > > url for that particular page does not appear in the browser location > > bar, only http://linux-sxs.org/inde2.html appears. I think that is the > > link for the left-hand frame, not the actual sxs. Is there a way to > > make the path to the actual step appear somewhere? > > In Mozilla, you could always right click on the page, and open it as a new > frame. Or have the page contain a 'Mail this page to a friend' button. Same as having a printer button that resends the page minus lots of junk. (Zope/plone does this for you. But that is an old discussion.) -- ++···+ · Roger Oberholtzer · E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]· · OPQ Systems AB · WWW: http://www.opq.se/ · · Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 ·Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 · · 115 34 Stockholm · Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 · · Sweden · Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 · ++···+ ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: sxs list urls?
On Mon, 28 Jul 2003, Tony Alfrey wrote: > Hi! > > I have a comment/suggestion/question about the list format. If I find a > step on the list which I then wish to send to someone as a link, the > url for that particular page does not appear in the browser location > bar, only http://linux-sxs.org/inde2.html appears. I think that is the > link for the left-hand frame, not the actual sxs. Is there a way to > make the path to the actual step appear somewhere? In Mozilla, you could always right click on the page, and open it as a new frame. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step & TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
sxs list urls?
Hi! I have a comment/suggestion/question about the list format. If I find a step on the list which I then wish to send to someone as a link, the url for that particular page does not appear in the browser location bar, only http://linux-sxs.org/inde2.html appears. I think that is the link for the left-hand frame, not the actual sxs. Is there a way to make the path to the actual step appear somewhere? Thanks! -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd Rather Be Sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
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Re: I know this is not the gentoo list but...
> For whatever reason, Apache puts the startup data (error or not) in > error_log. Look there to see if you're getting a segfault, etc., on > startup. > > I can tell you FrontPage and PHP don't work together -- you can see the > segfault right there in the error_log. I ended up compiling PHP without using emerge with ./configure --with-mysql=/usr --with-apxs and it installs fine. Looks like there is a problem with the gentoo php patch. Might have to join the gentto mailing list so I can ask about how it all works. James McDonald Systems Engineer Singleton NSW Australia ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: I know this is not the gentoo list but...
Gentoo... I love it. You see something you want, emerge (install) it and... it works. No BS, no tracking obscure dependencies, etc... On Sun, 22 Jun 2003 14:12:29 -0400 "Brett I. Holcomb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Great! It's a fantastic distro. I don't miss RPM at all . > > You might also try alt.os.linux.gentoo newsgroup. > > James McDonald wrote: > > > Folks, > > > > I have just stepped away from the world of rpm based distro's to have a > > go at gentoo. > > > > First impressions are the website information is excellent and the > > installation guides are very accurate. > > > > However I am having an issue with getting mod_php to work using the > > instruction at http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/desktop.xml#doc_chap8 > > > > If I leave -D PHP4 defined in /etc/conf.d/apache the apache server fails > > to start but if I comment if out it works I know I have some sort of > > problem with the mod_php install but because I am doing emerge apache > > php mod_php mod_ssl and don't know much about emerge I am having trouble > > fault finding it. mod_ssl works though. > > > > Any ideas on what I have to tweak to get meaningful fault finding data > > out of apache/php? > > > > James McDonald > > -- > Brett I. Holcomb > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > AKA Grunt <>< > Registered Linux User #188143 > Remove R777 to email > ___ > Linux-users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> > http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net This email account no longers accepts attachments or messages containing html. 3:19pm up 165 days, 19:53, 3 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: I know this is not the gentoo list but...
Great! It's a fantastic distro. I don't miss RPM at all . You might also try alt.os.linux.gentoo newsgroup. James McDonald wrote: > Folks, > > I have just stepped away from the world of rpm based distro's to have a > go at gentoo. > > First impressions are the website information is excellent and the > installation guides are very accurate. > > However I am having an issue with getting mod_php to work using the > instruction at http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/desktop.xml#doc_chap8 > > If I leave -D PHP4 defined in /etc/conf.d/apache the apache server fails > to start but if I comment if out it works I know I have some sort of > problem with the mod_php install but because I am doing emerge apache > php mod_php mod_ssl and don't know much about emerge I am having trouble > fault finding it. mod_ssl works though. > > Any ideas on what I have to tweak to get meaningful fault finding data > out of apache/php? > > James McDonald -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] AKA Grunt <>< Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: I know this is not the gentoo list but...
On Sun, 22 Jun 2003 22:08:54 +1000 (EST) "James McDonald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Have you looked in the apache logs. Mine are at: > > /usr/local/apache/logs. > > > > Joel > > Yeah gentoo stashes them in /etc/apache/logs but I can't seem to get > any meaningful "mod_php failed to load because" errors For whatever reason, Apache puts the startup data (error or not) in error_log. Look there to see if you're getting a segfault, etc., on startup. I can tell you FrontPage and PHP don't work together -- you can see the segfault right there in the error_log. Ciao, David A. Bandel -- Focus on the dream, not the competition. Nemesis Racing Team motto GPG key autoresponder: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: I know this is not the gentoo list but...
> Have you looked in the apache logs. Mine are at: > /usr/local/apache/logs. > > Joel Yeah gentoo stashes them in /etc/apache/logs but I can't seem to get any meaningful "mod_php failed to load because" errors > ___ > Linux-users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> > http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users > James McDonald Systems Engineer Singleton NSW Australia ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: I know this is not the gentoo list but...
Have you looked in the apache logs. Mine are at: /usr/local/apache/logs. Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
I know this is not the gentoo list but...
Folks, I have just stepped away from the world of rpm based distro's to have a go at gentoo. First impressions are the website information is excellent and the installation guides are very accurate. However I am having an issue with getting mod_php to work using the instruction at http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/desktop.xml#doc_chap8 If I leave -D PHP4 defined in /etc/conf.d/apache the apache server fails to start but if I comment if out it works I know I have some sort of problem with the mod_php install but because I am doing emerge apache php mod_php mod_ssl and don't know much about emerge I am having trouble fault finding it. mod_ssl works though. Any ideas on what I have to tweak to get meaningful fault finding data out of apache/php? James McDonald ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [OT] Slackware List
rels wrote: OK, no problem ... what was the size of the download ... in round numbers ;>)) 694,976,512 one cd. well worth it. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [OT] Slackware List
OK, no problem ... what was the size of the download ... in round numbers ;>)) - Original Message - From: Collins Richey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 9:44 PM Subject: Re: [OT] Slackware List On Mon, 31 Mar 2003 11:36:09 -0500 "rels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Oh well ... I haven't gotten a chance to download Slackware yet anyway > as originally planned. Hope to do so shortly. > It's well worth the download; just plan on fixing KDE early on, if you're a KDE fan. -- Collins ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [OT] Slackware List
Ken Moffat wrote: Is it necessary to remove the old ones, or can an upgrade be done? I downloaded all the files in the directory mentioned earlier, except the KDEI subdirectory, and then, as root, went to the directory where I had downloaded everything, and typed "upgradepkg *.tgz". This updated all the KDE packages and so far it has been working without problems. BOF ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [OT] Slackware List
Collins Richey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Worked for me. > >-- >Collins - Slack 9.0 EXT3 Tried it again ... ---tm--- Linux Registration Number; 184093, http://counter.li.org __ Try AOL and get 1045 hours FREE for 45 days! http://free.aol.com/tryaolfree/index.adp?375380 Get AOL Instant Messenger 5.1 for FREE! Download Now! http://aim.aol.com/aimnew/Aim/register.adp?promo=380455 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [OT] Slackware List
On Tue, 01 Apr 2003 22:28:47 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (tom) wrote: > Greets list, sorry about this... > > Kurt Wall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >Oops - I managed to wipe out the list of subscribers to my little > >Slackware list here at KurtWerks during an upgrade. :-\ If you're > >interesed in (re)subscribing, please visit > >http://www.kurtwerks.com/mailman/listinfo/slackware/ > > > >Sorry for the inconvenience. I learned how to back up my Mailman > >installation, so it's not a total loss. ;-) > > > >Thanks, > > > >Kurt > > Is the mailman working now? I've re-applied 2 or 3 times, > but no replies from the list; that, or my fingers are > too fat for typing :) > > ---tm--- > Linux Registration Number; 184093, > http://counter.li.org > > Worked for me. -- Collins - Slack 9.0 EXT3 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
RE: [OT] Slackware List
Greets list, sorry about this... Kurt Wall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Oops - I managed to wipe out the list of subscribers to my little >Slackware list here at KurtWerks during an upgrade. :-\ If you're >interesed in (re)subscribing, please visit >http://www.kurtwerks.com/mailman/listinfo/slackware/ > >Sorry for the inconvenience. I learned how to back up my Mailman >installation, so it's not a total loss. ;-) > >Thanks, > >Kurt Is the mailman working now? I've re-applied 2 or 3 times, but no replies from the list; that, or my fingers are too fat for typing :) ---tm--- Linux Registration Number; 184093, http://counter.li.org __ Try AOL and get 1045 hours FREE for 45 days! http://free.aol.com/tryaolfree/index.adp?375380 Get AOL Instant Messenger 5.1 for FREE! Download Now! http://aim.aol.com/aimnew/Aim/register.adp?promo=380455 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [OT] Slackware List
Collins Richey wrote: upgrade kde to kde 3.1.1, which is what I did. There are slack packages available. I removed everything arts*, kde*, and qt and installed the latest and greatest. OK if you have high speed internet. Is it necessary to remove the old ones, or can an upgrade be done? ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [OT] Slackware List
On Mon, 31 Mar 2003 18:46:13 -0800 Ken Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Collins Richey wrote: > > >On Mon, 31 Mar 2003 11:36:09 -0500 > >"rels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > >>Oh well ... I haven't gotten a chance to download Slackware yet > >anyway>as originally planned. Hope to do so shortly. > >> > >> > >> > > > >It's well worth the download; just plan on fixing KDE early on, if > >you're a KDE fan. > > > > > > > > What's the problem with kde? Seems to work here, but I just tried it > for the first time. > Yes it works mostly (no major failures for me), but the recommendation I got (someone else replied on this list) was either to downgrade qt or upgrade kde to kde 3.1.1, which is what I did. There are slack packages available. I removed everything arts*, kde*, and qt and installed the latest and greatest. OK if you have high speed internet. -- Collins - Slack 9.0 EXT3 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [OT] Slackware List
Collins Richey wrote: On Mon, 31 Mar 2003 11:36:09 -0500 "rels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Oh well ... I haven't gotten a chance to download Slackware yet anyway as originally planned. Hope to do so shortly. It's well worth the download; just plan on fixing KDE early on, if you're a KDE fan. What's the problem with kde? Seems to work here, but I just tried it for the first time. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [OT] Slackware List
On Mon, 31 Mar 2003 11:36:09 -0500 "rels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Oh well ... I haven't gotten a chance to download Slackware yet anyway > as originally planned. Hope to do so shortly. > It's well worth the download; just plan on fixing KDE early on, if you're a KDE fan. -- Collins ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [OT] Slackware List
An unnamed Administration source, Shawn Tayler, wrote: % % % Hey kurt, % % Got this back when I tried to subscribe. Stupid me. It should be fixed. Kurt -- Graduate life: It's not just a job. It's an indenture. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [OT] Slackware List
An unnamed Administration source, Collins Richey, wrote: % On Thu, 27 Mar 2003 20:57:53 -0500 % Kurt Wall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: % % > Oops - I managed to wipe out the list of subscribers to my little % > Slackware list here at KurtWerks during an upgrade. :-\ If you're % > interesed in (re)subscribing, please visit % > http://www.kurtwerks.com/mailman/listinfo/slackware/ % > % > Sorry for the inconvenience. I learned how to back up my Mailman % > installation, so it's not a total loss. ;-) % > % % It turns out, the answer is: X doesn't like the comment line. When I % remove this, everything works. I never could find after going through % the man files where the syntax for .Xdefaults is located. If someone % could comment on that, I would love to hear about it. For historical reasons, X uses "!" rather than "#" to mark comments. Kurt -- Mosher's Law of Software Engineering: Don't worry if it doesn't work right. If everything did, you'd be out of a job. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [OT] Slackware List
An unnamed Administration source, Ken Moffat, wrote: % Kurt Wall wrote: % % >Oops - I managed to wipe out the list of subscribers to my little % >Slackware list here at KurtWerks during an upgrade. :-\ If you're % >interesed in (re)subscribing, please visit % >http://www.kurtwerks.com/mailman/listinfo/slackware/ % > % >Sorry for the inconvenience. I learned how to back up my Mailman % >installation, so it's not a total loss. ;-) % > % >Thanks, % > % >Kurt % > % > % Oops, mail keeps returning from % % marta.kurtwerks.com % % as undeliverable. I think I've got this fixed now... Kurt -- We have met the enemy, and he is us. -- Walt Kelly ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [OT] Slackware List
Oh well ... I haven't gotten a chance to download Slackware yet anyway as originally planned. Hope to do so shortly. Rob E. - Original Message - From: Kurt Wall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Linux Users Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 8:57 PM Subject: [OT] Slackware List Oops - I managed to wipe out the list of subscribers to my little Slackware list here at KurtWerks during an upgrade. :-\ If you're interesed in (re)subscribing, please visit http://www.kurtwerks.com/mailman/listinfo/slackware/ Sorry for the inconvenience. I learned how to back up my Mailman installation, so it's not a total loss. ;-) Thanks, Kurt -- When we are planning for posterity, we ought to remember that virtue is not hereditary. -- Thomas Paine ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [OT] Slackware List
On Sun, 30 Mar 2003 17:21:47 -0800 Shawn Tayler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hey kurt, > > Got this back when I tried to subscribe. > [ mail stuff snipped ] Ayup, me too. -- Collins ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [OT] Slackware List
On Sun, 30 Mar 2003 21:16:02 -0500 "David A. Bandel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 30 Mar 2003 18:15:10 -0700 > Collins Richey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > It turns out, the answer is: X doesn't like the comment line. When > > I remove this, everything works. I never could find after going > > through the man files where the syntax for .Xdefaults is located. > > If someone could comment on that, I would love to hear about it. > > X uses ! to mark comments, not #. Could that have been your problem? > Thanks, David, I am filing this away. -- Collins ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [OT] Slackware List
On Sun, 30 Mar 2003 18:15:10 -0700 Collins Richey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 27 Mar 2003 20:57:53 -0500 > Kurt Wall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Oops - I managed to wipe out the list of subscribers to my little > > Slackware list here at KurtWerks during an upgrade. :-\ If you're > > interesed in (re)subscribing, please visit > > http://www.kurtwerks.com/mailman/listinfo/slackware/ > > > > Sorry for the inconvenience. I learned how to back up my Mailman > > installation, so it's not a total loss. ;-) > > > > It turns out, the answer is: X doesn't like the comment line. When I > remove this, everything works. I never could find after going through > the man files where the syntax for .Xdefaults is located. If someone > could comment on that, I would love to hear about it. X uses ! to mark comments, not #. Could that have been your problem? Ciao, David A. Bandel -- Focus on the dream, not the competition. Nemesis Racing Team motto pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [OT] Slackware List
Kurt Wall wrote: Oops - I managed to wipe out the list of subscribers to my little Slackware list here at KurtWerks during an upgrade. :-\ If you're interesed in (re)subscribing, please visit http://www.kurtwerks.com/mailman/listinfo/slackware/ Sorry for the inconvenience. I learned how to back up my Mailman installation, so it's not a total loss. ;-) Thanks, Kurt Oops, mail keeps returning from marta.kurtwerks.com as undeliverable. This is the Postfix program at host marta.kurtwerks.com. I'm sorry to have to inform you that the message returned below could not be delivered to one or more destinations. For further assistance, please send mail to If you do so, please include this problem report. You can delete your own text from the message returned below. The Postfix program <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Command died with status 2: "/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post slackware". Command output: Group mismatch error. Mailman expected the mail wrapper script to be executed as group "postfix", but the system's mail server executed the mail script as group "nogroup". Try tweaking the mail server to run the script as group "postfix", or re-run configure, providing the command line option `--with-mail-gid=nogroup'. Reporting-MTA: dns; marta.kurtwerks.com Arrival-Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 20:09:19 -0500 (EST) Final-Recipient: rfc822; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Action: failed Status: 5.0.0 Diagnostic-Code: X-Postfix; Command died with status 2: "/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post slackware". Command output: Group mismatch error. Mailman expected the mail wrapper script to be executed as group "postfix", but the system's mail server executed the mail script as group "nogroup". Try tweaking the mail server to run the script as group "postfix", or re-run configure, providing the command line option `--with-mail-gid=nogroup'. Subject: test From: Ken Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 17:09:15 -0800 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] test ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [OT] Slackware List
Hey kurt, Got this back when I tried to subscribe. > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Command died with status 2: >"/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman request slackware". Command output: > Group >mismatch error. Mailman expected the mail wrapper script to be > executed as group >"postfix", but the system's mail server executed the > mail script as group >"nogroup". Try tweaking the mail server to run > the script as group "postfix", or >re-run configure, providing the > command line option `--with-mail-gid=nogroup'. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [OT] Slackware List
On Thu, 27 Mar 2003 20:57:53 -0500 Kurt Wall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Oops - I managed to wipe out the list of subscribers to my little > Slackware list here at KurtWerks during an upgrade. :-\ If you're > interesed in (re)subscribing, please visit > http://www.kurtwerks.com/mailman/listinfo/slackware/ > > Sorry for the inconvenience. I learned how to back up my Mailman > installation, so it's not a total loss. ;-) > It turns out, the answer is: X doesn't like the comment line. When I remove this, everything works. I never could find after going through the man files where the syntax for .Xdefaults is located. If someone could comment on that, I would love to hear about it. -- Collins ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
[OT] Slackware List
Oops - I managed to wipe out the list of subscribers to my little Slackware list here at KurtWerks during an upgrade. :-\ If you're interesed in (re)subscribing, please visit http://www.kurtwerks.com/mailman/listinfo/slackware/ Sorry for the inconvenience. I learned how to back up my Mailman installation, so it's not a total loss. ;-) Thanks, Kurt -- When we are planning for posterity, we ought to remember that virtue is not hereditary. -- Thomas Paine ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Caldera List
Javier Hernandez wrote: I am testing some other distros: Suse and debian (libranet). libranet has a new version in beta, looks improved. They are selling the current version (2.7) at a discount ($25). ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Caldera List
On Sat, 8 Mar 2003, Kurt Wall wrote: > So, what's the reaction on the Caldera list to this latest piece > of brilliance? I do not think Caldera is too much worry about it. I remember the Caldera mail list with 100 - 150 messages a day, nowdays you can get one or two messages each one or two days. :( Just a couple of comments on the list, one to tell about unsubscribing Really sad ¡¡¡ I still have too systems working with Caldera Openlinux 3.1.1 and one with Openlinux 3.1 but I am testing some other distros: Suse and debian (libranet). Best regards, -- Javi, _ [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.europa3.com/users/fjherna/ \_(X)_(_)_(X)_/ http://www.valux.org/ !___!___!_Valencia(Spain) === Advancement in position. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Caldera List
On Saturday 08 March 2003 05:19 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Welp, I finally pulled the plug on the Caldera Users List. Ditto -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd Rather Be Sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
RE: Caldera List
I did the same. Didn't even leave a comment first, it just wouldn't have mattered. --- On Sat 03/08, < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: From: [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 18:19:35 -0700 Subject: Caldera List Welp, I finally pulled the plug on the Caldera Users List. Been a subscriber for 8 years.. The SCO MBA's (appropriately said earlier) really are clueless. They are trying to get the big payoff so they can retire. Steve ___ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Caldera List
On Sun, 9 Mar 2003 07:48:49 -0500 "David A. Bandel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 8 Mar 2003 21:42:41 -0600 > Rick Sivernell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > List > > > >I have been watching this last bit of conversation with bated > > interest. I am using Caldera stuff still. But it appears I need to > > do some heavy consideration of moving to something else. At this > > time I have a lack of funds to buy much in OS's. I like the setup of > > the eServer/eWorkstation 3.1.1 systems, but they are starting to > > fall back in the stable side of cutting edge. While I do not want > > bleading edge, since I am still do college software design for one > > more year. I would like the opion of this list, no flames as I know > > we all love our stuff . > > > > 1. Should I stay with what I have and just upgrade it as I can to > > xfree 4.3 kernel 2.4.20.X gcc 3.2, I really do not care for kde and > > I am using xfce 3.18 xterm 3.19 ? > > If I were you, I'd stay with what I have right now. If you have a > spare partition, you might try to install something else to play with. > I'd > suggest you look at Knoppix. Knoppix is a basic distro you can even > install to a hard drive (unfortunately, they don't allow XFS install). > > It's based on Debian, so a chicken can do upkeep (upgrade, > maintenance). > dselect takes care of all dependencies for you, not like RPM. IMHO, > it's always been the best, just that annoying GNU stupidity. > > Boot up Knoppix and play with it. You can do almost anything without > affecting your isntalled system as long as you don't make your hard > disk read/write. > > > > > 2. dump it and move to another distro. > > > > System SCSI drives and cdroms NVida RNT2 video Asus P3 mobo. > > 750+ meg memory soundcard nic and some other general stuff. > > > > Any thoughts here as to what direct I might want to go. Cheers to > > all > > > [snip] > > Ciao, > > David A. Bandel > -- > Focus on the dream, not the competition. > Nemesis Racing Team motto > David Sounds logical, I have been listening to the list talk of knoppix, and thought about looking at it. It is on my list now. Too much to d, not enough time in the day. cheers -- Rick Sivernell Dallas, Texas 75287 972 306-2296 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Caldera Open Linux eWorkStation 3.1.1 Registered Linux User .~. / v \ /( _ )\ ^ ^ In Linux we trust! ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Caldera List
On Sat, 8 Mar 2003 21:42:41 -0600 Rick Sivernell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > List > >I have been watching this last bit of conversation with bated > interest. I am using Caldera stuff still. But it appears I need to do > some heavy consideration of moving to something else. At this time I > have a lack of funds to buy much in OS's. I like the setup of the > eServer/eWorkstation 3.1.1 systems, but they are starting to fall back > in the stable side of cutting edge. While I do not want bleading edge, > since I am still do college software design for one more year. I would > like the opion of this list, no flames as I know we all love our > stuff . > > 1. Should I stay with what I have and just upgrade it as I can to > xfree 4.3 kernel 2.4.20.X gcc 3.2, I really do not care for kde and I > am using xfce 3.18 xterm 3.19 ? If I were you, I'd stay with what I have right now. If you have a spare partition, you might try to install something else to play with. I'd suggest you look at Knoppix. Knoppix is a basic distro you can even install to a hard drive (unfortunately, they don't allow XFS install). It's based on Debian, so a chicken can do upkeep (upgrade, maintenance). dselect takes care of all dependencies for you, not like RPM. IMHO, it's always been the best, just that annoying GNU stupidity. Boot up Knoppix and play with it. You can do almost anything without affecting your isntalled system as long as you don't make your hard disk read/write. > > 2. dump it and move to another distro. > > System SCSI drives and cdroms NVida RNT2 video Asus P3 mobo. > 750+ meg memory soundcard nic and some other general stuff. > > Any thoughts here as to what direct I might want to go. Cheers to all > [snip] Ciao, David A. Bandel -- Focus on the dream, not the competition. Nemesis Racing Team motto pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Caldera List
Kurt wrote: Feigning erudition, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: % Welp, I finally pulled the plug on the Caldera Users List. Been a subscriber % for 8 years.. The SCO MBA's (appropriately said earlier) really are clueless. % They are trying to get the big payoff so they can retire. So, what's the reaction on the Caldera list to this latest piece of brilliance? % I can say that I have been retiring Caldera driven systems for about a year % now. I rather like SUSE.. I've been liking Slackware a good deal, played with LFS a bit. Haven't had the courage to try SuSE in a long time. Mandrake's out, as is Red Hat and other RPM-based distributions. Haven't tried the Debian family, yet. % Man has Caldera taken a dive. Hopefully I can get less of a loss on the IPO % stock that I have now.. I am planning my exit strategy before they go bankrupt.. I'm just amazed, man. It's just a darn shame.
Re: Caldera List
Hi Rick ! If you still have one more year to go, you should stick with what works. It'll take you a couple of weeks to a month to get used to another distro. If you're going to move to an OpenLinux-like distro like TurboLinux, it should not take you more than a week, Red Hat will take you about 2 weeks (because they have a lot of configuration crap), Slackware -well, that depends. I was never able to get Slackware working fine on my home system. If you're doing mainly development work (like myself), and you just need a stable, familiar platform, then you should resist the urge to upgrade. I am a victim of this techno-lust, and have migrated in the past year, from OpenLinux to TurboLinux to Slackware to Spectra Linux, which is what I am using now. Wasted a lot of time without making my Java apps run any faster. In fact, if anything, bootup times are much slower now, because I've got a lot crap running on my system :). Regards, pascal chong Rick Sivernell wrote: List I have been watching this last bit of conversation with bated interest. I am using Caldera stuff still. But it appears I need to do some heavy consideration of moving to something else. At this time I have a lack of funds to buy much in OS's. I like the setup of the eServer/eWorkstation 3.1.1 systems, but they are starting to fall back in the stable side of cutting edge. While I do not want bleading edge, since I am still do college software design for one more year. I would like the opion of this list, no flames as I know we all love our stuff . 1. Should I stay with what I have and just upgrade it as I can to xfree 4.3 kernel 2.4.20.X gcc 3.2, I really do not care for kde and I am using xfce 3.18 xterm 3.19 ? 2. dump it and move to another distro. System SCSI drives and cdroms NVida RNT2 video Asus P3 mobo. 750+ meg memory soundcard nic and some other general stuff. Any thoughts here as to what direct I might want to go. Cheers to all ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Caldera List
Feigning erudition, Rick Sivernell wrote: % List % %I have been watching this last bit of conversation with bated % interest. I am using Caldera stuff still. But it appears I need to do % some heavy consideration of moving to something else. At this time I % have a lack of funds to buy much in OS's. I like the setup of the % eServer/eWorkstation 3.1.1 systems, but they are starting to fall back % in the stable side of cutting edge. While I do not want bleading edge, % since I am still do college software design for one more year. I would % like the opion of this list, no flames as I know we all love our % stuff . Well, my disgust with SCOdera does not mean you should drop your usage of it. Rather, it just means I don't want it in my house or on my systems. I threw away a lot of software this morning, along with a number of t-shirts. If lack of funds is the issue, I can certainly burn you some CDs of a couple of distributions and send them to you. Contact me offline if you want to discuss this further. % 1. Should I stay with what I have and just upgrade it as I can to xfree % 4.3 kernel 2.4.20.X gcc 3.2, I really do not care for kde and I am using % xfce 3.18 xterm 3.19 ? This is the lowest cost approach. I don't know how easy it will be nor do I know how time-consuming it might be for you. % 2. dump it and move to another distro. This is the no-brainer approach, but might represent too much upheaval. % System SCSI drives and cdroms NVida RNT2 video Asus P3 mobo. % 750+ meg memory soundcard nic and some other general stuff. % % Any thoughts here as to what direct I might want to go. Cheers to all Kurt -- Our country has plenty of good five-cent cigars, but the trouble is they charge fifteen cents for them. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Caldera List
List I have been watching this last bit of conversation with bated interest. I am using Caldera stuff still. But it appears I need to do some heavy consideration of moving to something else. At this time I have a lack of funds to buy much in OS's. I like the setup of the eServer/eWorkstation 3.1.1 systems, but they are starting to fall back in the stable side of cutting edge. While I do not want bleading edge, since I am still do college software design for one more year. I would like the opion of this list, no flames as I know we all love our stuff . 1. Should I stay with what I have and just upgrade it as I can to xfree 4.3 kernel 2.4.20.X gcc 3.2, I really do not care for kde and I am using xfce 3.18 xterm 3.19 ? 2. dump it and move to another distro. System SCSI drives and cdroms NVida RNT2 video Asus P3 mobo. 750+ meg memory soundcard nic and some other general stuff. Any thoughts here as to what direct I might want to go. Cheers to all -- Rick Sivernell Dallas, Texas 75287 972 306-2296 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Caldera Open Linux eWorkStation 3.1.1 Registered Linux User .~. / v \ /( _ )\ ^ ^ In Linux we trust! ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Caldera List
On Sat, 8 Mar 2003 20:41:19 -0500 "Kurt Wall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Feigning erudition, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > % Welp, I finally pulled the plug on the Caldera Users List. Been a subscriber > % for 8 years.. The SCO MBA's (appropriately said earlier) really are clueless. > % They are trying to get the big payoff so they can retire. > > So, what's the reaction on the Caldera list to this latest piece > of brilliance? > Reaction? Heck the list has been like a piece of comfortably numb (is there anybody out there? Is there anyone at home?) for a year. The reaction I am sure will be nada (he he).. > % I can say that I have been retiring Caldera driven systems for about a year > % now. I rather like SUSE.. > > I've been liking Slackware a good deal, played with LFS a bit. Haven't > had the courage to try SuSE in a long time. Mandrake's out, as is Red > Hat and other RPM-based distributions. Haven't tried the Debian family, > yet. > SUSE is great. I like it better than RedHat. Haven't used Slackware in *many* years.. > % Man has Caldera taken a dive. Hopefully I can get less of a loss on the IPO > % stock that I have now.. I am planning my exit strategy before they go bankrupt.. > > I'm just amazed, man. It's just a darn shame. > Shame? More like sham. I have never been involved in such a project as closely as the Open Linux debacle and seen such "turn your back on your bread and butter" attitude. But, was destined to have happened. I mean business is business. I will vote with my wallet - and with the customers that I recommend Linux to. Guess I was duped from the start of the IPO by the RedHat rise to fruition.. Shame on me.. Steve ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Caldera List
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Welp, I finally pulled the plug on the Caldera Users List. Been a subscriber for 8 years.. The SCO MBA's (appropriately said earlier) really are clueless. They are trying to get the big payoff so they can retire. I can say that I have been retiring Caldera driven systems for about a year now. I rather like SUSE.. Man has Caldera taken a dive. Hopefully I can get less of a loss on the IPO stock that I have now.. I am planning my exit strategy before they go bankrupt.. Steve P.S. If anyone has good reports on a Linux distro that works well with a Ultra Sparc 2, and/or Mac G3(Yellowdog?), let me know.. For the Sparc, I'd recommend Aurora Linux. http://auroralinux.org I use it on an Ultra 5 and an E250. It's based on RH 7.3, kernel 2.4.18, and works very well. I left the Caldera list about 8 months ago after a frustrating go-round with John Boland about their business methodology which he was firmly supportive of. I don't have any systems running anything of theirs anymore. I still believe it's one of the best examples (and will end up as such at Wharton) of a company going from first to worst in record setting time. I'm glad some of the good people there left before it became so embarrassing. -- Andrew Mathews - 6:49pm up 26 days, 23:43, 13 users, load average: 1.03, 1.04, 1.00 - "I'd love to go out with you, but I'm converting my calendar watch from Julian to Gregorian." ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Caldera List
Feigning erudition, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: % Welp, I finally pulled the plug on the Caldera Users List. Been a subscriber % for 8 years.. The SCO MBA's (appropriately said earlier) really are clueless. % They are trying to get the big payoff so they can retire. So, what's the reaction on the Caldera list to this latest piece of brilliance? % I can say that I have been retiring Caldera driven systems for about a year % now. I rather like SUSE.. I've been liking Slackware a good deal, played with LFS a bit. Haven't had the courage to try SuSE in a long time. Mandrake's out, as is Red Hat and other RPM-based distributions. Haven't tried the Debian family, yet. % Man has Caldera taken a dive. Hopefully I can get less of a loss on the IPO % stock that I have now.. I am planning my exit strategy before they go bankrupt.. I'm just amazed, man. It's just a darn shame. Kurt -- Real programmers don't comment their code. It was hard to write, it should be hard to understand. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Caldera List
On 03/08/03 17:19, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: P.S. If anyone has good reports on a Linux distro that works well with a Ultra Sparc 2, and/or Mac G3(Yellowdog?), let me know.. If you don't mind Redhat (i know that i don't), then Aurora Linux & Yellowdog are the best bets: http://yellowdoglinux.com/ (Mac) http://auroralinux.org/ (SPARC) -- ~ L. Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step & TyGeMo:http://netllama.ipfox.com 5:20pm up 54 days, 44 min, 3 users, load average: 0.38, 0.32, 0.44 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Caldera List
Welp, I finally pulled the plug on the Caldera Users List. Been a subscriber for 8 years.. The SCO MBA's (appropriately said earlier) really are clueless. They are trying to get the big payoff so they can retire. I can say that I have been retiring Caldera driven systems for about a year now. I rather like SUSE.. Man has Caldera taken a dive. Hopefully I can get less of a loss on the IPO stock that I have now.. I am planning my exit strategy before they go bankrupt.. Steve P.S. If anyone has good reports on a Linux distro that works well with a Ultra Sparc 2, and/or Mac G3(Yellowdog?), let me know.. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Firewall Question: Gave bad advice, ask others on list again...
Greets list, Jim; As I stated before, I am inexperienced about IMAP before I replied to you, and therefore failed to answer your question properly. I've read a little more, since I felt something was wrong about my reply... :( First off, you must disable IDENTD daemon or service from the firewall, since this service will provide a cracker some simple information about your firewall quite easily. I apologize for communicating this piece of bad info to you. What I meant to say was the identd daemon on the clients computer, which you've have stated you removed, should be installed and running; Second, IMAP does require an "active" TCP connection to the client when the server is accessed, because the client is able to selectively choose the message headers he/she wants from the central file server, and then download what they like. A high port number TCP connection is required for the IMAPS mailserver to work, since IMAP permits the client to "work on the server" which explains your logs and your observation of the IMAP server attempting re-connection after packets from it are dropped. This is explained within the IMAP RFC 2060; The Internet Message Access Protocol, Version 4rev1 (IMAP4rev1) allows a client to access and manipulate electronic mail messages on a server. IMAP4rev1 permits manipulation of remote message folders, called "mailboxes", in a way that is functionally equivalent to local mailboxes. IMAP4rev1 also provides the capability for an offline client to resynchronize with the server (see also [IMAP-DISC]). --- snipped for length --- Therefore, you could attempt to activate identd on a single client for testing purposes, and test to see if this solves your problem. If not, you may left with having to "punch a hole" in the firewall, and create a limited number of monitored ports to permit the server to talk to the clients. It would require you to filter the firewall packets on the firewall protecting your clients, to confirm they are comming from the imap server and permit them to pass, rejecting all others. Jim Bonnet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Tom- Thanks for the reply. I have specifically disabled identd on my >imap server because many of our users are behind firewalls that don't >pass identd. > >I have also enabled for the heck of it identd on my firewall.. This >didnt change anything. > >It is not a consisstant port, it is like other services, it is picking a >random really high port. > >I'll read thru that info you sent. > >Im not waiting for the ident timeout anymore after turning it off on the > server. What I do see is that when IMAPS tries to do whatever he's >doing making a connection back to me on a blocked port is that the next >time I check a imap mailbox it needs to re-authenticate. > >Thanks alot- >Jim > > > >tom wrote: >> Greets list, Jim; >> >> Jim Bonnet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >>>Could someone enlighten me on the finer aspects of firewalling. >> >> >> I'll try. Although I'm a comparitive newbie, I think I can expand >> on your question a little, from what little I know. I hope not >> to make any mistakes, but I'm sure we'll hear about it here :) ---tm--- Linux Registration Number; 184093, http://counter.li.org __ The NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. Upgrade now! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Slackware Mailing List
On Sun, 5 Jan 2003 11:42:10 -0500 Wade Barocsi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 4 Jan 2003 19:38:14 -0500 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I'm pleased to announce that KurtWerks now hosts a mailing list for > > users of Slackware. List information and subscription instructions > > available at > > http://www.kurtwerks.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/slackware. > Great, Thank you. Sign me up. Eh? Don't you mean sign yourself up? -- Collins Richey - Denver Area gentoo 1.4 system ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Slackware Mailing List
On Sat, 4 Jan 2003 19:38:14 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hello, list, > > I'm pleased to announce that KurtWerks now hosts a mailing list for > users of Slackware. List information and subscription instructions > available at http://www.kurtwerks.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/slackware. > I look forward to seeing all the Slackware users on this list on > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To try to head off any criticism of posting this here, let me make > perfectly clear that KurtWerks hosting a Slackware mailing list is > *no* way suggests *any* dissatisfaction with this list or the job > Doug has done running the Steps site. IMHO, linux-sxs.org is the > premier site for Linux support and [EMAIL PROTECTED] is the > all-around best general list for supporting general Linux users. > > I created [EMAIL PROTECTED] to meet a distinct need for a > Slackware-specific mailing list -- slackware.com does not have such > a list Great, Thank you. Sign me up. -wade ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Slackware Mailing List
Hello, list, I'm pleased to announce that KurtWerks now hosts a mailing list for users of Slackware. List information and subscription instructions available at http://www.kurtwerks.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/slackware. I look forward to seeing all the Slackware users on this list on [EMAIL PROTECTED] To try to head off any criticism of posting this here, let me make perfectly clear that KurtWerks hosting a Slackware mailing list is *no* way suggests *any* dissatisfaction with this list or the job Doug has done running the Steps site. IMHO, linux-sxs.org is the premier site for Linux support and [EMAIL PROTECTED] is the all-around best general list for supporting general Linux users. I created [EMAIL PROTECTED] to meet a distinct need for a Slackware-specific mailing list -- slackware.com does not have such a list and I no longer venture out to Usenet. I also created the list out of a desire to run my own mailing list. I'll continue to be an active participant here and will continue in my role as an editor, hopefully a more prominent one. I hope to be just as busy over at KurtWerks. After all, it is my own site and I've been wanting to do something more interesting with it for quite some time. Finally, I have not official affiliation with the Slackware site. This is strictly my own undertaking. Best regards, Kurt -- Know what I hate most? Rhetorical questions. -- Henry N. Camp ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: List
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 08:06:41PM -0700, Collins wrote: > On Wed, 20 Nov 2002 22:47:40 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > It's got to be a highly specific mix. I'm running kernels built with > > 2.95.3, 3.0, 3.1, and 3.2; a C library built with 3.2; XFree86 built > > with 3.2 and 2.95.3; and applications built with all of them. I've > > had ZERO problems. > > I'm glad to hear that. I have ZERO experience with mix and match, > only with distros that are totally based on one compiler version or > the other. Your experience is definitely the most common one. As a rule, I wouldn't recommend mixing and matching the way I have because doing so might well trigger obscure compiler or library bugs. So far, I haven't experienced this, but that doesn't mean it couldn't happen. In theory, though, this type of mix 'n' match should not be an issue in user-space apps because the compiler ordinarily can be relied upon to Do The Right Thing. Kurt -- Cynic, n.: One who looks through rose-colored glasses with a jaundiced eye. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: SCO linux RPM List
All the SRPMs are available on ftp.sco.com. Its never been terribly clear on whether RPMs will also be provided for download. On Fri, 22 Nov 2002, Matthew Carpenter wrote: > distro-watch has updated their SCO section to include the important > information on SCOUL. > > No download AFAICT. > > On Thu, 21 Nov 2002 10:02:28 -0800 > Jim Bonnet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Net Llama! wrote: > > > > > Jim, > > > I appreciate your effort, but the original question remains. Why > > > isn't this documented at sco.com? I would hope that individual > > > employees of SCO are not repsonsible for providing this information to > > > potential customers. > > > > > > -Lonni > > > > > > On Thu, 21 Nov 2002, Jim Bonnet wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > To be quite honest, they are still updating the webpage even as we > > speak... So who knows what the future holds.. The ftp SRPMS directory is > > > > filled now BTW. > > > > ftp://ftp.sco.com/pub/scolinux/server/4.0/SRPMS > > > > --jim > > > > > > ___ > > Linux-users mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> > > http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users > ___ > Linux-users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users > -- ~~~~~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step & TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: SCO linux RPM List
distro-watch has updated their SCO section to include the important information on SCOUL. No download AFAICT. On Thu, 21 Nov 2002 10:02:28 -0800 Jim Bonnet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Net Llama! wrote: > > > Jim, > > I appreciate your effort, but the original question remains. Why > > isn't this documented at sco.com? I would hope that individual > > employees of SCO are not repsonsible for providing this information to > > potential customers. > > > > -Lonni > > > > On Thu, 21 Nov 2002, Jim Bonnet wrote: > > > > > > > To be quite honest, they are still updating the webpage even as we > speak... So who knows what the future holds.. The ftp SRPMS directory is > > filled now BTW. > > ftp://ftp.sco.com/pub/scolinux/server/4.0/SRPMS > > --jim > > > ___ > Linux-users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> > http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
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On Wed, 20 Nov 2002 22:47:40 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 06:37:57AM -0700, Collins wrote: > > > > I suppose it all depends on the meaning of "is," to quote Bill > > Clinton. > > > > Separately compiled components that have no interaction can be > > compiled with either compiler, and neither is aware of the other, > > but early adaptors on gentoo did indeed report disastrous results > > when a mix of components compiled with the two different compilers > > was attempted (I don't have the details). > > It's got to be a highly specific mix. I'm running kernels built with > 2.95.3, 3.0, 3.1, and 3.2; a C library built with 3.2; XFree86 built > with 3.2 and 2.95.3; and applications built with all of them. I've > had ZERO problems. > I'm glad to hear that. I have ZERO experience with mix and match, only with distros that are totally based on one compiler version or the other. > That said, I'm not going to argue with you about this. Your message > said recompile everything with 3.2, which is perniciously false. > No arguments needed. I'm happy to hear this bit, too. > > From everything I read, the major vendors in their rush to get out > > 3.2 based products have done their usual sloppy work (not enough > > testing before release), so I'll let the pioneers fend off the > > arrows (most of the arrows have nothing to do with 3.2). At some > > point the mix will change, and there will be a compelling reason > > to switch to 3.2, and there will be a reliable RH, etc.. distro > > (gentoo is, of course, just as stable with 3.2 as with the older > > compiler), but I don't believe that time has come yet. > > Well, then, the problem is not the compiler, but the vendors who > have"done their usual sloppy work." > We could fill volumes with vendors who have done their usual sloppy work, most especially with binary only products, but there don't seem to be a lot of alternatives to these in the plugin world. With this one exception, I have no objection to a new compiler, but I'm not convinced that I really need it yet. BTW, I was the last in my neighborhood to get a microwave, so just color me "behind the times." -- Collins Richey - Denver Area Redhat 7.3 system ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
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Net Llama! wrote: Jim, I appreciate your effort, but the original question remains. Why isn't this documented at sco.com? I would hope that individual employees of SCO are not repsonsible for providing this information to potential customers. -Lonni On Thu, 21 Nov 2002, Jim Bonnet wrote: To be quite honest, they are still updating the webpage even as we speak... So who knows what the future holds.. The ftp SRPMS directory is filled now BTW. ftp://ftp.sco.com/pub/scolinux/server/4.0/SRPMS --jim ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
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Jim, I appreciate your effort, but the original question remains. Why isn't this documented at sco.com? I would hope that individual employees of SCO are not repsonsible for providing this information to potential customers. -Lonni On Thu, 21 Nov 2002, Jim Bonnet wrote: -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step & TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
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This is the list of RPM's I have on my desktop here.. It's not complete because I didn't install all the RPMS, but I got about 99% of them.. The actual _VERSION_ numbers may have changed on the gold-cut. I'm running an earlier beta system, but atleast the names of packages are the same.. Jim Bonnet gnome-mime-data-2.0.0-180 glibc-i18ndata-2.2.5-163 glibc-info-2.2.5-163 ghostscript-fonts-other-7.05.3-62 filesystem-2002.9.2-56 aide-0.9-32 gcc-info-3.2-45 libaio-0.3.15-25 netscape-plugins-4.80-22 perl-DateManip-5.40-244 perl-HTML-Tagset-3.03-300 perl-Tie-IxHash-1.21-334 perl-Time-Period-1.20-36 perl-TimeDate-1.10-332 perl-URI-1.20-39 perl-XML-Writer-0.4-254 postgresql-jdbc-7.2.2-35 sash-3.4-504 saxident-1.1-428 scslog-2.3-302 terminfo-5.2-402 unitedlinux-release-1.0-127 xfntscl-4.2.0-188 xmodules-4.2.0-188 icons-101.0-577 intlfnts-1.2-427 man-pages-1.53-32 metacity-themes-0.1-54 providers-2002.9.8-12 words-words.2-284 yast2-trans-en_US-2.6.7-2 glibc-2.2.5-164 glibc-locale-2.2.5-163 gmp-4.0-149 iptables-1.2.7a-53 bonnie-1.4-75 bzip2-1.0.2-51 cdparanoia-IIIalpha9.8-287 compartm-1.1-32 cpio-2.5-54 cpp-3.2-45 ctags-2002.7.18-34 findutils-4.1.7-435 fping-2.2b1-569 gkermit-1.0-450 gle-3.0.6-250 glib-1.2.10-326 glib2-2.0.6-47 gdbm-1.8.0-689 file-3.37-154 fillup-1.10-32 ash-0.2-641 attr-2.0.11-16 awesfx-0.4.4a-215 bing-1.0.4-610 binutils-2.12.90.0.15-50 ddrescue-1.02-230 dhcp-tools-1.2-224 diffutils-2.8.1-49 dos2unix-3.1-29 dosfstools-2.8-296 e2fsprogs-1.28-30 ed-0.2-611 imap-lib-2001a-159 antiword-0.33-69 gtkglarea-1.2.2-469 eject-2.0.12-160 ethtool-1.6-37 expat-1.95.4-41 freetype2-2.0.9-85 g3utils-1.1.28-254 hdparm-5.2-33 ksymoops-2.4.5-68 lha-1.14i-297 libPropList-0.10.1-371 libart_lgpl-2.3.10-53 libcap-1.92-226 libexif-0.5.3-39 libgcc-3.2-45 libghttp-1.0.9-370 libiodbc-3.0.6-79 libjpeg-6.2.0-481 libmcal-0.6-404 libpcap-0.7.1-56 librsvg-1.0.1-672 librsvg2-2.0.1-162 libxcrypt-1.1-54 liby2util-2.6.21-1 linux-atm-2.4.0-157 logsurfer-1.5a-304 lsof-4.64-40 ltrace-0.3.26-46 m4-1.4o-286 make-3.79.1-407 mdadm-1.0.1-37 mktemp-1.5-482 mt_st-0.7-168 mtx-1.2.15-162 ncurses-5.2-402 net-tools-1.60-283 netacct-0.71-245 netcat-1.10-612 netdate-1.2-325 netdiag-20010114-139 opie-2.4-293 pam_smb-1.1.6-372 patch-2.5.4-308 pax-3.0-155 pbm2l7k-990321-538 pciutils-2.1.10-40 perl-Crypt-DES-2.03-109 perl-Digest-SHA1-2.01-153 perl-HTML-Parser-3.26-39 perl-gettext-1.01-325 popt-1.6-282 radiusclient-0.3.1-306 rcs-5.7-610 rdist-6.1.5-543 recode-3.6-240 reiserfs-3.6.2-41 rrdtool-1.0.39-57 rzsz-0.12.20-586 sed-3.02.80-53 slang-1.4.5-53 tar-1.13.25-46 tarfix-1.0-562 tcl-8.4-60 tclx-8.4-37 tcpd-7.6-457 textutils-2.1-39 ttcp-1.4-507 unace-1.2b-513 unarj-2.43-534 unixODBC-2.2.2-94 usbutils-0.10-41 utempter-0.5.2-142 whois-4.5.29-29 wireless-tools-23-130 xtermset-0.5.1-301 zip-2.3-490 zlib-1.1.4-51 zoo-2.10-602 cdk-4.9.10-158 ckermit-8.0.200-134 compat-2002.8.15-29 iptraf-2.5.0-166 gettyps-2.0.7j-436 atk-1.0.3-66 dhcp-base-3.0.1rc9-43 dialog-0.62-618 dprobes-3.6.3-32 acl-2.0.19-17 heartbeat-pils-0.4.9e-8 jfsutils-1.0.24-1 joe-2.9.8-130 libgtop2-2.0.0-232 libidl-0.8.0-87 libpng-1.2.4-41 libstdc++-3.2-45 libtiff-3.5.7-156 libxml-1.8.17-104 lukemftp-1.5-330 mtr-0.46-216 mysql-shared-3.23.52-27 ncftp-3.1.3-56 ngrep-1.40-241 orbit-0.5.17-65 perl-Digest-HMAC-1.01-237 perl-XML-Parser-2.31-40 rarpd-1.1-324 readline-4.3-50 screen-3.9.13-25 talk-0.17-304 varmon-1.0.2-298 xshared-4.2.0-188 zsh-4.0.6-30 db-4.0.14-194 gd-1.8.4-401 gdb-5.2.1-60 gfxboot-1.9-59 fileutils-4.1.11-30 bash-2.05b-50 bc-1.06-478 dump-0.4b31-26 imwheel-0.9.5-631 MyODBC-libiodbc-2.50.39-87 MyODBC-unixODBC-2.50.39-96 gtk-1.2.10-463 libungif-4.1.0b1-190 lsb-runtime-1.2-37 openmotif-2.2.2-124 parted-1.6.3-40 plotutils-2.4.1-179 sablot-0.82-123 saxtools-2.2-709 star-1.4.1-46 t1lib-1.3.1-120 umsprogs-1.13-100 unclutter-8-435 units-1.74-52 unrar-3.00-53 vlan-1.6-74 xaw3d-1.5-655 xled-1.3.1-987 xloader-4.2.0-188 xlock-5.03-229 gnome-common-1.2.4-275 bootsplash-theme-UnitedLinux-1.0-71 cracklib-2.7-716 gnuplot-3.7.1-595 grep-2.5.1-84 fltk-1.1.0rc5-50 ghostscript-fonts-std-7.05.3-62 arpwatch-2.1a11-203 audiofile-0.2.3-172 bind9-utils-9.1.3-264 devs-2002.10.4-9 dhcpcd-1.3.22pl1-129 dosbootdisk-1.0-333 i4l-isdnlog-2002.10.1-8 imlib-1.9.10-499 iproute2-2.4.7-367 TraceToolkit-0.9.5-45 aaa_skel-2002.10.14-1 acroread-5.06-13 db-utils-4.0.14-194 gxmhtml-1.4.1.7-134 iputils-ss020124-334 freetype-1.3.1-690 gal-0.19.3-155 gawk-3.1.1-126 gzip-1.3-326 horde-1.2.6-532 htdig-3.1.6-67 java2-jre-1.3.1-524 k_deflt-2.4.19-120 less-376-31 libgimpprint-4.3.3-42 liblcms-1.09-42 libmikmod-3.1.10-136 libnet-1.0.2a-319 libogg-1.0-43 libtool-1.4.2-347 libunicode-0.4-396 libusb-0.1.5-129 libxml2-2.4.23-117 logrotate-3.5.9-198 makedev-2.6-152 mgetty-1.1.28-254 minicom-2.00.0-147 mm-1.2.1-38 modutils-2.4.19-39 mozilla-1.0.1-38 mtools-3.9.8-454 mtr-gtk-0.46-216 ngpt-2.0.1-36 nmap-3.00-54 nn-6.6.4-45 pango-1.0.4-68 pcre-3.9-131 pdksh-5.2.14-532 perl-5.8.0-58 postgresql-odbc-7.2.2-35 procmail-3.15.1-3
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On Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 06:37:57AM -0700, Collins wrote: > > I suppose it all depends on the meaning of "is," to quote Bill > Clinton. > > Separately compiled components that have no interaction can be > compiled with either compiler, and neither is aware of the other, but > early adaptors on gentoo did indeed report disastrous results when a > mix of components compiled with the two different compilers was > attempted (I don't have the details). It's got to be a highly specific mix. I'm running kernels built with 2.95.3, 3.0, 3.1, and 3.2; a C library built with 3.2; XFree86 built with 3.2 and 2.95.3; and applications built with all of them. I've had ZERO problems. That said, I'm not going to argue with you about this. Your message said recompile everything with 3.2, which is perniciously false. > From everything I read, the major vendors in their rush to get out 3.2 > based products have done their usual sloppy work (not enough testing > before release), so I'll let the pioneers fend off the arrows (most of > the arrows have nothing to do with 3.2). At some point the mix will > change, and there will be a compelling reason to switch to 3.2, and > there will be a reliable RH, etc.. distro (gentoo is, of course, just > as stable with 3.2 as with the older compiler), but I don't believe > that time has come yet. Well, then, the problem is not the compiler, but the vendors who have "done their usual sloppy work." Kurt -- "Love is a snowmobile racing across the tundra and then suddenly it flips over, pinning you underneath. At night, the ice weasels come." -- Matt Groening ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
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On Tue, 12 Nov 2002 19:55:37 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 07:03:46AM -0700, Collins wrote: > > On Sun, 10 Nov 2002 08:53:38 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > On Sat, Nov 09, 2002 at 11:00:01PM -0500, Brett I. Holcomb > > > wrote: > > > > How do you upgrade from gcc 2.9x to 3.2? Can't that be a > > > > perilous path? > > > > > > You don't "upgrade," really. The default configuration is to > > > install 3.2 in /usr/local, alongside whatever you already have. > > > > > > > The upgrade path is to recompile everything that you have with the > > new compiler. The perilous part of the path is getting the > > sequence right, and anything that has mixed components (compiled > > with and without 3.2) will fail miserably. > > Poppycock. I have a mixed system and no problems whatsoever. > I suppose it all depends on the meaning of "is," to quote Bill Clinton. Separately compiled components that have no interaction can be compiled with either compiler, and neither is aware of the other, but early adaptors on gentoo did indeed report disastrous results when a mix of components compiled with the two different compilers was attempted (I don't have the details). Putting all that aside, I'm still not convinced that there is any great advantage to the new compiler at present. I ran with the latest gentoo (gcc 3.2 based) for several months with no problems including upgrades (except for the fact that binary plugins for moz, etc., are not available). Now I'm running RH 7.3 which uses the old compiler. I'm not noticing any performance difference on my desktop machine. The last recommendation I read on the 2.5.x development kernel still recommended 2.95.xx. gcc 3.2 does have extra support for the AMD chips, but I have a PIII machine. >From everything I read, the major vendors in their rush to get out 3.2 based products have done their usual sloppy work (not enough testing before release), so I'll let the pioneers fend off the arrows (most of the arrows have nothing to do with 3.2). At some point the mix will change, and there will be a compelling reason to switch to 3.2, and there will be a reliable RH, etc.. distro (gentoo is, of course, just as stable with 3.2 as with the older compiler), but I don't believe that time has come yet. At present, if you want a fully functional browser with all the plugins (many of these are binary only), you need to compile your browser with 2.95.xx, and I can't see screwing around with 2 compilers on my system. This is not meant to discourage those who like to tinker - lord knows I've been bitten by that bug often enough. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area Redhat 7.3 system ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
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On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 07:03:46AM -0700, Collins wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Nov 2002 08:53:38 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > On Sat, Nov 09, 2002 at 11:00:01PM -0500, Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
> > > How do you upgrade from gcc 2.9x to 3.2? Can't that be a perilous
> > > path?
> >
> > You don't "upgrade," really. The default configuration is to install
> > 3.2 in /usr/local, alongside whatever you already have.
> >
>
> The upgrade path is to recompile everything that you have with the new
> compiler. The perilous part of the path is getting the sequence
> right, and anything that has mixed components (compiled with and
> without 3.2) will fail miserably.
Poppycock. I have a mixed system and no problems whatsoever.
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On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 07:03:46AM -0700, Collins wrote: > On Sun, 10 Nov 2002 08:53:38 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On Sat, Nov 09, 2002 at 11:00:01PM -0500, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: > > > How do you upgrade from gcc 2.9x to 3.2? Can't that be a perilous > > > path? > > > > You don't "upgrade," really. The default configuration is to install > > 3.2 in /usr/local, alongside whatever you already have. > > > > The upgrade path is to recompile everything that you have with the new > compiler. The perilous part of the path is getting the sequence > right, and anything that has mixed components (compiled with and > without 3.2) will fail miserably. Poppycock. I have a mixed system and no problems whatsoever. Kurt -- Acid -- better living through chemistry. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
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On Mon, 11 Nov 2002 07:03:46 -0700 Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 10 Nov 2002 08:53:38 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On Sat, Nov 09, 2002 at 11:00:01PM -0500, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: > > > How do you upgrade from gcc 2.9x to 3.2? Can't that be a perilous > > > path? > > > > You don't "upgrade," really. The default configuration is to install > > 3.2 in /usr/local, alongside whatever you already have. > > > > The upgrade path is to recompile everything that you have with the new > compiler. The perilous part of the path is getting the sequence > right, and anything that has mixed components (compiled with and > without 3.2) will fail miserably. > > If you are a typical user of RPMs, you'll need to find a lot of RPMs, > or use SRPMa ro rebuild everything. Most distros are beginning to > provide 3.2 based installs, but these are a mixed bag at present, > since they always drag in something poisonous (i.e. untested) in > addition to 3.2. > > I've used a 3.2 based distro (gentoo), and it's totally innocuous, if > done properly. OTOH, it's no fantastic improvement, so you're > probably better off (TM) waiting for everything (binary plugins, > especially) to catch up. > > -- > Collins Richey - Denver Area > Redhat 7.3 system > ___ > Linux-users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> > http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users I think I will wait a while, this is going to be too much trouble. Thanks for your reply. cheers -- Rick Sivernell Dallas, Texas 75287 972 306-2296 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Caldera Open Linux eWorkStation 3.1.1 Registered Linux User .~. / v \ /( _ )\ ^ ^ In Linux we trust! ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
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On Sun, 10 Nov 2002 08:53:38 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Sat, Nov 09, 2002 at 11:00:01PM -0500, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: > > How do you upgrade from gcc 2.9x to 3.2? Can't that be a perilous > > path? > > You don't "upgrade," really. The default configuration is to install > 3.2 in /usr/local, alongside whatever you already have. > The upgrade path is to recompile everything that you have with the new compiler. The perilous part of the path is getting the sequence right, and anything that has mixed components (compiled with and without 3.2) will fail miserably. If you are a typical user of RPMs, you'll need to find a lot of RPMs, or use SRPMa ro rebuild everything. Most distros are beginning to provide 3.2 based installs, but these are a mixed bag at present, since they always drag in something poisonous (i.e. untested) in addition to 3.2. I've used a 3.2 based distro (gentoo), and it's totally innocuous, if done properly. OTOH, it's no fantastic improvement, so you're probably better off (TM) waiting for everything (binary plugins, especially) to catch up. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area Redhat 7.3 system ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
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Okay. Thanks. Then I suppose you use whichever one the app will compile with. > On Sat, Nov 09, 2002 at 11:00:01PM -0500, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: >> How do you upgrade from gcc 2.9x to 3.2? Can't that be a perilous path? > > You don't "upgrade," really. The default configuration is to install 3.2 > in /usr/local, alongside whatever you already have. > > Kurt -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] AKA Grunt <>< Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
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On Sat, Nov 09, 2002 at 07:10:54PM -0600, Richard R. Sivernell wrote: > > many thanks here. When installed , g++ 3.2, this > will not affect my system will it, and I suppose that I will > need to set CC & other variables for g++ 3.2? You should be able to say "/usr/local/bin/g++ foo.cc" and the compiler will Do The Right Thing (c). Kurt -- "She said, `I know you ... you cannot sing'. I said, `That's nothing, you should hear me play piano.'" -- Morrisey ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
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On Sun, 10 Nov 2002 08:56:20 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Sat, Nov 09, 2002 at 05:34:15PM -0600, Richard R. Sivernell wrote: > > Kurt > > > > At http://www.gnu.org/directory/devel/Compilers/gpp.html all > > they have is 3.0.4. where do I get 3.2. Is there any thing else I need to > > upgrade to make this work? > > For GCC in general, http://gcc.gnu.org/. > For 3.2 in particular, http://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-3.2/. > > You should have everything else that you need. > > Kurt > -- > Conway's Law: > In any organization there will always be one person who knows > what is going on. > > This person must be fired. > ___ > Linux-users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> > http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Kurt many thanks here. When installed , g++ 3.2, this will not affect my system will it, and I suppose that I will need to set CC & other variables for g++ 3.2? cheers -- Rick Sivernell Dallas, Texas 75287 972 306-2296 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Caldera Open Linux eWorkStation 3.1.1 Registered Linux User .~. / v \ /( _ )\ ^ ^ In Linux we trust! ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
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On Sat, Nov 09, 2002 at 05:34:15PM -0600, Richard R. Sivernell wrote: > Kurt > > At http://www.gnu.org/directory/devel/Compilers/gpp.html all > they have is 3.0.4. where do I get 3.2. Is there any thing else I need to > upgrade to make this work? For GCC in general, http://gcc.gnu.org/. For 3.2 in particular, http://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-3.2/. You should have everything else that you need. Kurt -- Conway's Law: In any organization there will always be one person who knows what is going on. This person must be fired. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
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On Sat, Nov 09, 2002 at 11:00:01PM -0500, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: > How do you upgrade from gcc 2.9x to 3.2? Can't that be a perilous path? You don't "upgrade," really. The default configuration is to install 3.2 in /usr/local, alongside whatever you already have. Kurt -- The use of COBOL cripples the mind; its teaching should, therefore, be regarded as a criminal offense. -- E. W. Dijkstra ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
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Kurt At http://www.gnu.org/directory/devel/Compilers/gpp.html all they have is 3.0.4. where do I get 3.2. Is there any thing else I need to upgrade to make this work? cheers -- Rick Sivernell Dallas, Texas 75287 972 306-2296 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Caldera Open Linux eWorkStation 3.1.1 Registered Linux User .~. / v \ /( _ )\ ^ ^ In Linux we trust! ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
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How do you upgrade from gcc 2.9x to 3.2? Can't that be a perilous path? > On Sat, Nov 09, 2002 at 08:44:25AM -0600, Richard R. Sivernell wrote: >> List >> >>I am trying to compile a library call AI Loom, seems it may require >> g++ 3. What do I need to install other than g++ 3, an problems here to >> watch out for. > > gcc 3.x. 3.2 is better than the others in the series. > > Kurt -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] AKA Grunt <>< Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
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On Sat, Nov 09, 2002 at 08:44:25AM -0600, Richard R. Sivernell wrote: > List > >I am trying to compile a library call AI Loom, seems it may require > g++ 3. What do I need to install other than g++ 3, an problems here to watch > out for. gcc 3.x. 3.2 is better than the others in the series. Kurt -- "And what will you do when you grow up to be as big as me?" asked the father of his little son. "Diet." ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
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List I am trying to compile a library call AI Loom, seems it may require g++ 3. What do I need to install other than g++ 3, an problems here to watch out for. Thanks for any help cheers -- Rick Sivernell Dallas, Texas 75287 972 306-2296 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Caldera Open Linux eWorkStation 3.1.1 Registered Linux User .~. / v \ /( _ )\ ^ ^ In Linux we trust! ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
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On Sat, 9 Nov 2002 13:34:49 -0800 Tony Alfrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I just wondered since I've been using 2.95.2 to compile virtually > everything and nothing blows up so far. But then the stuff I > compile isn't all that exotic. Kernels, kde, and now some Palm > stuff. > I'm not aware of anything that doesn't compile with 2.95.xx. On the other hand some things don't work with the new compiler release, most especially the binary plugins for Netscape/Mozilla/etc. haven't been produced with the new compiler, so you need to compile the browsers, at least, with 2.95.xx if you want to continue using the plugins. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area Redhat 7.3 system ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
