Re: more of the damn kiddies
On Tue, 18 Sep 2001 11:51:41 -0700 Bill Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | On Tue, Sep 18, 2001 at 11:23:41AM -0700, Vern W Heesch wrote: | >Excuse my ignorance, but is this any threat to Linux and Apache? | | It's main danger is that it can fill up your disk with log entries. I | turned off the packet logging on our Linux router because our syslog grew | 3.5mb in less than a half-hour with packets rejected with destination | addresses to unused subnets in one of our class Cs. I have a number of virtual domains managed by Apache. They all use the same IP address and HTTP port. All the worm accesses only show up in one of the domain's log files. It is the first virtual host listed in my Apache config file. So, maybe one could set up a 'junk' domain first and just not log that one? I suspect this just an artifact of this release of Apache rather than a 'feature'. But maybe an exploit could help lessen log file size. -- = Roger Oberholtzer E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] OPQ Systems AB WWW: http://www.opq.se Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 115 32 Stockholm Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 Sweden Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Fwd: Active defense gets serious: Announcing LaBrea 2.0
what does everyone think of this? -- begin forwarded msg — Subject: Active defense gets serious: Announcing LaBrea 2.0 Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 12:42:34 -0500 From: "Tom Liston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> First we slowed 'em down... ...Now, we're gonna' STOP 'em. Announcing: LaBrea 2.0 It all started a few weeks ago when we read this innocent little paragraph in Chapter 22 of Steven's TCP/IP Illustrated, Vol. 1: "The characteristic of the persist state that is different from the retransmission timeout in Chapter 21 is that TCP never gives up sending window probes. These window probes continue to be sent at 60-second intervals until the window opens up or either of the applications using the connection is terminated." What a lovely word "NEVER" is As you may or may not know, LaBrea 1.x is a small Linux-based application that puts unused IP addresses on your network to use, creating a "tarpit" which slows down scans of your address space by establishing connections and forcing inbound connections to time-out. LaBrea automates the process of "grabbing" unused IP addresses and adding them to its pool of "tarpit" addresses. But now, thanks to the word NEVER, we can take "active defense" to a whole new level. LaBrea is beginning to generate interest in those who know that an active stance against REAL attackers is necessary to the continued health of the Internet: "LaBrea gives its users a tactical advantage over 'zombie' computers like those compromised by the Code Red worms. The computer security industry will find it a very intriguing utility." -- Rob Rosenberger, editor, Vmyths.com **New in LaBrea 2.0** When LaBrea is started with the "-p" flag, it will force connection attempts into the "persist" state. You grab 'em, hold 'em, and NEVER let 'em go. Yes, that's right... I said "*NEVER* LET THEM GO"... How does it work? Technical details: The LaBrea "server" software allows a normal three-way handshake in response to a connect attempt. During the handshake, the server sets a small (5 byte) TCP window. When the client sends its first 5 bytes of data, the server responds with a TCP window of 0 (wait). The client then shifts into the "persist" state, where it sends what are called "window probe" packets at intervals that increase to a maximum of 4 minutes for an NT stack. The LaBrea server answers these probes to hold the client in the persist state. At this point, a connection can be maintained with a throughput of approximately 1215 bytes per hour. All of this can be done without maintaining any "state" on the connections. This vastly simplifies LaBrea's code. Because you're holding connections open, and because there is a bandwidth "cost" associated with doing that, the "-p" option requires that you specify the maximum bandwidth (in bytes/second) that you want to allocate to doing this. You set the maximum bandwidth, fire it off, and LaBrea takes care of the rest. It keeps a 5 minute running window of bandwidth allocated to holding open connections, and does it's best to keep you at or near the maximum you allow. (FYI: 1 byte/second is roughly equal to 3 scanning threads). What happens to the threads you don't grab? LaBrea still tarpit's 'em... just like before. Using LaBrea before was a whole lot of fun... Now, it's just incredible. I've had people ping scanning "virtual machines", running NMap on them, and even some enterprising folks very interested in the version of BIND that my LaBrea machines are running. Ladies and gentlemen, we really CAN make a difference. But don't just take my word for it: check it out for yourself. At the HackBusters site, we have a page showing the current "live" activity in our very own tarpit. You can see the folks that are just visiting, and you can also check out a list of the very "special" people that we're hanging onto INDEFINITELY. While you're there, grab a copy of the source code to LaBrea, or read our white paper entitled "Welcome to My Tarpit - The Tactical and Strategic Use of LaBrea." While you're looking at the "VIPs" as we're calling them, notice something: I've held onto some of them for more than 5 days... No, you didn't mis-read that: *5 DAYS*... And don't be fooled by the fact that everything there seems to be aimed at port 80. Hackbusters lil' chunk o' IP space just seems to be sitting in the midst of CodeRed central... LaBrea will capture anything that tries to initiate a full connection on ANY port. Over the weekend, we had some Gnutella scanners on the line until they got a clue and gave up... We believe that by using tools like LaBrea, we can actually make a strong proactive stand to improve the "health" of the Internet. Please consider setting up a tarpit. Please pass the word to others. See: http://www.hackbusters.net Questions and comments can be directed to the address on the HackBusters site.
Re: Fwd: Active defense gets serious: Announcing LaBrea 2.0
On Wednesday 19 September 2001 07:57, DOUGLAS HUNLEY wrote: | what does everyone think of this? i think it's highly cool in concept; a friend is setting it up on his lab rat to see if it is cool in reality. -- dep There is sobbing of the strong, And a pall upon the land; But the People in their weeping Bare the iron hand; Beware the People weeping When they bare the iron hand. ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Fwd: Active defense gets serious: Announcing LaBrea 2.0
I guess this is only within the lower 1024 ports, right? I feel dumb asking, but I want to be sure I understand what is going on. Currently, if I don't have a listener on such a port, connections do little to me. So, what I am doing here is not so much protecting my system as making life hell for possible intruders by tying up their resources (and my 'unused port' resources). If they access a port I really am using, this is outside what LaBrea deals with. Right? -- = Roger Oberholtzer E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] OPQ Systems AB WWW: http://www.opq.se Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 115 32 Stockholm Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 Sweden Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Fwd: Active defense gets serious: Announcing LaBrea 2.0
Quoting dep <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Wednesday 19 September 2001 07:57, DOUGLAS HUNLEY wrote: > | what does everyone think of this? > > i think it's highly cool in concept; a friend is setting it up on his > lab rat to see if it is cool in reality. Am I understanding this correctly? This is something that is more for use by ISP's, hosting providers and other admins of networks with large numbers of internet exposed machines isn't it. There wouldn't be much use applying this to a NAT connected network of any size large or small would there? -- Linux SxS [http://hal.humberc.on.ca/~mrcn0031/sxs/] ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Final Cost
from Ronnie Gauthier: " Crosby-Stills-Nash " Anyone catch them on Leno? Nope. I don't have a tv. " The only thing that scares me about the whole thing Much more than that scares me (probably you too, I guess:). " is what the final cost of freedom will really be. The final cost is likely to .be. freedom. What precious little we have left. (I kinda figure that's a typo in your sentence and you meant 'to' freedom, not 'of' freedom, sorry if I'm putting words in your mouth.) The latest internet worm is much^100+ less serious, in my view, than the terrorist assault yet, on another list, one 'reasonably reputable and long time subscriber' has, in response to the worm, advocated a)licensing all machines connected to the internet (and, iirc, at least one respected linux user has advocated this as well) b)licensing all users (it wasn't clear to me if this was all computer users or just all internet users) c) confiscating your computer if you can't compute responsibly R -- "Nothing so needs reforming as other people's habits." ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: who had the ELF errors with Mozilla & flash?
--- David Aikema <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On September 18, 2001 08:21 pm, Net Llama wrote: > > Odd thing is that flash now works for me as well. Still can't get > Java > > working though. > > IIRC you're supposed to run java as root when installing java and the > first > time after that that you view a java applet. I'm aware of that fact. I've installed Java numerous times. This is the only time that it has failed to work. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux FAQ & Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Redmond Linux
Have installed the beta 3 Redmond Linux on a 233 mmx with 64 meg memory. Installation went fine even had a driver for my old S3 928 video chip. Problem is that any time I open up the menu the thing locks up. That's before I even select an item from the menu. The program just locks up with the menu opened on the kde desktop. Strange thing is that I can alt-f2 get a command line punch in commands such as ksaferppp and dial out and connect to the ISP and even order up Netscape through the alt-f2 command window. But the menu on the kde desktop stays locked up.even though the mouse pointer still moves Any suggestions? Lee ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
More Steps
Sept 19 SCANNERS->EPSON... (courtesy Tony L.) Success story and links to additional info. -- Linux SxS [http://hal.humberc.on.ca/~mrcn0031/sxs/] ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Mozilla 0.9.4 java plugin
Hi All, I remember there being previous discusion on the java/browser issues and getting it to work. I have just installed mozilla 0.9.4 to /usr/local/mozilla and launched it and gone to http://ascta.com/ there is a java applet which causes the java vm download to start. The download is coming from ftp://ftp.netscape.com/pub/netscape6/english/6.0/unix/linx22/xpi/jre.xpi and it auto installs. After this has occurred the java plugin information appears in about:plugins. but launching the above page as a normal user causes the browser to freeze and launching as root causes the browser to terminate immediately. If I try to launch the JavaControl Panel.html it has the same effect. Can anyone point me in the right direction as to what to check. I thought it may have been corrupt download files but I have downloaded twice to no avail. Regards James McDonald ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Redmond Linux
Have you experienced this problem with other window managers other than KDE? --- Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Have installed the beta 3 Redmond Linux on a 233 mmx with 64 meg > memory. > Installation went fine even had a driver for my old S3 928 video > chip. > Problem is that any time I open up the menu the thing locks up. That's > before I even select an item from the menu. The program just locks up > with the menu opened on the kde desktop. Strange thing is that I can > alt-f2 get a command line punch in commands such as ksaferppp and dial > out and connect to the ISP and even order up Netscape through the > alt-f2 > command window. But the menu on the kde desktop stays locked up.even > though the mouse pointer still moves Any suggestions? = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux FAQ & Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
RE: Linux in Spanish
> Are there very many books on Linux that are written in Spanish? Also, > are there any distributions in Spanish? I'm not aware of Spanish language distributions, but I'm sure such exist. One of my books was translated into Spanish, but it is about programming, not usage and administration. Kurt ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
RE: Linux in Spanish
Quoting Kurt Wall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Are there very many books on Linux that are written in Spanish? Also, > > are there any distributions in Spanish? Don't know if this is what's being looked for but: Linux MX - a spanish speaking Linux, based on Redhat in Mexico. Manufacturer : Open Source de Mexico S.C. Distribution : Linux MX for Intel PC's FTP Server : ftp://ftp.os.com.mx/pub/linuxmx Support : http://www.linux.org.mx/listas -- Linux SxS [http://hal.humberc.on.ca/~mrcn0031/sxs/] ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Linux in Spanish
> I'm not aware of Spanish language distributions, but I'm sure such > exist. > > One of my books was translated into Spanish, but it is about > programming, not usage and administration. > > Kurt Somebody sent me the name of a Spanish distribution and I saved it, but I can't get to it right now, I'm on the Windows side of my box. They also told me you had a book in a book in Spanish. I'm working on a book proposal (Word is the only time I open my Windows partition) and plan to advise targeting the Hispanic population. I've worked with a lot of Mexicans in construction. They're great, bright, friendly, industrious, and family-oriented. Randy Donohoe ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Linux in Spanish
> Don't know if this is what's being looked for but: > > Linux MX - a spanish speaking Linux, based on Redhat in Mexico. > Manufacturer : Open Source de Mexico S.C. > Distribution : Linux MX for Intel PC's > FTP Server : ftp://ftp.os.com.mx/pub/linuxmx > Support : http://www.linux.org.mx/listas > > > -- > Linux SxS [http://hal.humberc.on.ca/~mrcn0031/sxs/] Thanks Ian, I think that makes three distribs (counting the Mexican gov't sponsored one) people have sent me. Randy Donohoe ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Mozilla 0.9.4 java plugin
--- James McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ftp://ftp.netscape.com/pub/netscape6/english/6.0/unix/linx22/xpi/jre.xpi You've got a typo in that URL. It should have "linux22" not "linx22". > Can anyone point me in the right direction as to what to check. I > thought it > may have been corrupt download files but I have downloaded twice to no > avail. Seems to have started magically working for me = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux FAQ & Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: fighting the worm (enough of this already)
Let's take a vote. Does anyone think that current users of windows products (server or browser) will switch because of this latest worm? I vote no, because if they didn't switch after the last worm, they don't have the brains or time to make a switch. It might be time to think whether or not Microsoft has become a security risk to the country. Joel ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: fighting the worm (enough of this already)
On Wednesday 19 September 2001 13:43 pm, Joel Hammer wrote: > Let's take a vote. Does anyone think that current users of windows products > (server or browser) will switch because of this latest worm? > I vote no, because if they didn't switch after the last worm, they don't > have the brains or time to make a switch. I think they're clueless... They don't: 1) Know they really have a problem 2) Know who is responsible for the problem 3) If they knew they had a problem, they wouldn't know how to fix it. If the worse part is, that I am sure a lot of them think of MicroSoft is a hero because it keeps coming to the rescue with 'fixes' for these terrible viruae > It might be time to think whether or not Microsoft has become a security > risk to the country. Now *there* is something really to consider. A very valid point. > Joel > > ___ > http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc > ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- ++ + Bruce S. Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bellaire, MI 09/19/01 13:51 + ++ "It is always brave to say what everyone thinks." - Georges Duhamel, French author (1884-1966) ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: fighting the worm (enough of this already)
On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 01:43:01PM -0400, Joel Hammer wrote: >Let's take a vote. Does anyone think that current users of windows products >(server or browser) will switch because of this latest worm? >I vote no, because if they didn't switch after the last worm, they don't >have the brains or time to make a switch. It isn't a matter of brains in most cases, but pure ignorance. There's also the matter of job security for the industry that's grown up to put bandaids on the Microsoft plague >It might be time to think whether or not Microsoft has become a security >risk to the country. This is a question? Windows is a threat to any data accessible to the machine. It costs billions every year in time lost waiting for reboots, and recovering data trashed by Windows and the brain-dead Microsoft applications. Check out the paragraph ``Covert use of Windows Machines'' in an article that I wrote back when the I Love You worm hit: http://www.celestial.com/iloveyou/ This was written a couple of years ago. Since then, Microsoft's own servers have been hit for Windows source code (could that be instrumental in perfecting the latest attacks), their servers have been hit by Code Red, and many U.S. Government sites hit as well. Bill -- INTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC UUCP: camco!bill PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX:(206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 URL: http://www.celestial.com/ ``Scientists are explorers. Philosophers are tourists.'' -- Richard Feynman ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Redmond Linux
This sounds like a memory problem. Bad memory can cause sudden system lockups in many cases. I'd recommend going to freshmeat.net and finding memtest86, and running it for at least 24 hours straight. If you have memory on hand to swap out, that would be a faster test. --- Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Net Llama wrote: > > > Have you experienced this problem with other window managers other > than > > KDE? > > Yes. Itdoes the same on both kde and kde2 > > > > > > > --- Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Have installed the beta 3 Redmond Linux on a 233 mmx with 64 meg > > > memory. > > > Installation went fine even had a driver for my old S3 928 video > > > chip. > > > Problem is that any time I open up the menu the thing locks up. > That's > > > before I even select an item from the menu. The program just locks > up > > > with the menu opened on the kde desktop. Strange thing is that I > can > > > alt-f2 get a command line punch in commands such as ksaferppp and > dial > > > out and connect to the ISP and even order up Netscape through the > > > alt-f2 > > > command window. But the menu on the kde desktop stays locked > up.even > > > though the mouse pointer still moves Any suggestions? = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux FAQ & Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
dd and tape drives
Greetings, I've got a very very odd & frustrating problem. Basically, any attempt to write to an Ecrix VXA-1 tape drive with the dd command fail. The basic command that i'm issuing as root is: dd if=whatever of=/dev/st0the output from the command is always: 0+1 records in 0+0 records out I have no problems reading or writing from the tape drive when using dump and/or tar, so its not a hardware problem. Please let me know if you need more info. Anyone with any input? TIA, Lonni = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux FAQ & Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: dd and tape drives
The problem is most likely that the file you are reading is not a multiple of the block size. If for example, you create a temporary file with exact multiples of the block size, then you won't get an error. e.g. dd if=/etc/printcap of=/dev/st0 bs=512 count=4 Then you wont' see any errors, because you've got complete blocks to write. dump, tar and cpio (and their ilk) will all pad the block out so that it fills the last block. dd is not really a great utility for doing backups, apart from anything, you cannot backup multiple files with it, not unless you start doing non rewind tape device stuff and index list building, which isn't worth it. Why don't you want to use tar or cpio? Gordon Net Llama wrote: > Greetings, > I've got a very very odd & frustrating problem. Basically, any attempt > to write to an Ecrix VXA-1 tape drive with the dd command fail. > The basic command that i'm issuing as root is: > dd if=whatever of=/dev/st0the output from the command is always: > 0+1 records in > 0+0 records out > > I have no problems reading or writing from the tape drive when using > dump and/or tar, so its not a hardware problem. > > Please let me know if you need more info. > Anyone with any input? > > TIA, > Lonni > > = > > Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Linux FAQ & Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com > > . > > __ > Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? > Donate cash, emergency relief information > http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ > ___ > http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc >->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: BP adds to Open Source
- Original Message - From: "Alan Jackson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Richard Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 4:23 PM Subject: Re: BP adds to Open Source > > I'm also not sure your statement about Fortran vs C is correct. We've done > benchmarks, and for hard core I/O + CPU numerics, Fortran is still hard to > beat. And we run ours on Linux (the 1024 node IBM cluster). Porting to Linux > was amazingly easy. > If you have some relevant, non-proprietary benchmarks for the performance of seismic code in Fortran on Linux vs. C on Linux using an open-source compiler, let's see them. I was unable to find an open source Fortran compiler for Linux - which one are you using? Since the GCC compiler has been in use on Linux for about a decade, I would expect that it is pretty bug-free and well-tuned. My claim is partly based on my experiences in the 80s with the kind of code that grizzled oil-industry Fortran programmers produce vs. the kind of code relatively young academic C programmers produce. Given identical algorithms and coding styles, any difference in the code performance would most likely be due to a difference in the compilers. Again, I'd expect GCC to do a little better than a relatively immature Fortran compiler. > We have an in-house system that is so well-tuned that when we ran it on > Apollo workstations (remember those?), it overloaded the power supplies > and caused them to arc out and fail. They never expected anyone would > drive the I/O, CPU, and Bus at 100% all at once. Great, but I don't see how this is relevant to the performance of the system on Linux. Is it still possible to get replacement parts for Apollos? Richard Anderson, Ph.D www.raycosoft.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Seattle, WA ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Dedicated hosting (Cobalt Raq)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I'm searching for a dedicated hosting provider. Anyone has experience with these servers (Raq3/Raq4)?? Besides that: Anyone can comment on any of this providers?? RackShack: http://www.rackshack.net/ (There's not much info/details about their services. Subsidiary of Everyones Internet) Dialtone Internet: http://www.dialtone.com/ (They've called me by phone USA->Argentina. They've offered me an interesting plan) TIA, Federico Voges Socio gerente Intrasoft Malabia 2137 14 A (1425) Buenos Aires Argentina Te/Fax: 54-11-4833-5182 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.intrasoft.com.ar PGP Public Key Fingerprint: A536 4595 EB6F D197 FBC1 5C3A 145C 2516 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. iQA/AwUBO6kSchRcJRaVKt4XEQJnKwCfeiLvZFemJ0cgzd2up42/DUJGypcAoKHL BdyeqrbrvoM52MAJ6h1Y8+M0 =KQmw -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Fwd: Active defense gets serious: Announcing LaBrea 2.0
On Wed, 19 Sep 2001 07:57:35 -0400 "DOUGLAS HUNLEY" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > what does everyone think of this? > I'm confused as usual... Does LaBrea require an unused ip to work or will it defend an ip that actively being used? I set it up on my home lan, on the server. It didn't appear to "capture" anything except my imagination. :') So... how about a HOW-TO for us to busy to RTFM? -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux 5:50pm up 16 days, 4:57, 7 users, load average: 0.11, 0.05, 0.01 ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
nimda worm
Dont do this with a win box! Go here. read the page source. Note the javascript http://208.163.77.109 then get http://208.163.77.109/readme.eml is this what the virus does on its own or is this site setup to infect on purpose? -- Ronnie == Life can be a dream; or it can be a nightmare it's all in your min ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: fighting the worm (enough of this already)
On Tue, 18 Sep 2001 21:21:40 -0400 "Douglas J. Hunley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am a bit hesitant to post this, but I know others probably feel the way I > do, so... > Doug, Dude... becareful who you show this to... :') You're amongst friends here, no dobt about it... but an idiot from the outside could cause a lot of trouble... That aside, thank you. I printed this one out on the laser printer and will keep it in my personal note book. :') -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux 5:59pm up 16 days, 5:06, 7 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: dd and tape drives
Gordon, Thanks for your input. I should have previously mentioned that this isn't me that's experiencing this problem, its a customer. I normally do use tar or dump to write to tapes, and have never used dd before. This customer is adamant that they can use dd, so I'm forced to either prove it won't work (which is not the case, unfortunately), or find a solution. I'll pass along your suggestion, and let you know the result. Thanks! Lonni --- Gordon McCrae <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The problem is most likely that the file you are reading is not a > multiple of the block size. > > If for example, you create a temporary file with exact multiples of > the block size, then you won't get an error. > > e.g. > > dd if=/etc/printcap of=/dev/st0 bs=512 count=4 > > Then you wont' see any errors, because you've got complete blocks to > write. > > dump, tar and cpio (and their ilk) will all pad the block out so that > it fills the last block. > > dd is not really a great utility for doing backups, apart from > anything, you cannot backup multiple files with it, not unless you > start doing non rewind tape device stuff and index list building, > which isn't worth it. > > Why don't you want to use tar or cpio? > > Gordon > > Net Llama wrote: > > > Greetings, > > I've got a very very odd & frustrating problem. Basically, any > attempt > > to write to an Ecrix VXA-1 tape drive with the dd command fail. > > The basic command that i'm issuing as root is: > > dd if=whatever of=/dev/st0the output from the command is always: > > 0+1 records in > > 0+0 records out > > > > I have no problems reading or writing from the tape drive when using > > dump and/or tar, so its not a hardware problem. > > > > Please let me know if you need more info. > > Anyone with any input? = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux FAQ & Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Dedicated hosting (Cobalt Raq)
Just about anything Cobalt is a low end server solution. Its essentially what Sun directs people to, when they can't afford a Sun server. --- Federico Voges <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi, > > I'm searching for a dedicated hosting provider. > > Anyone has experience with these servers (Raq3/Raq4)?? > > Besides that: Anyone can comment on any of this providers?? > > RackShack: http://www.rackshack.net/ (There's not much info/details > about their services. Subsidiary of Everyones Internet) > > Dialtone Internet: http://www.dialtone.com/ (They've called me by > phone USA->Argentina. They've offered me an interesting plan) = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux FAQ & Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: fighting the worm (enough of this already)
On Wednesday 19 September 2001 06:06, Jerry McBride babbled: > Dude... becareful who you show this to... :') this list is full disclosure. and I didn't advocate using it. I simply made my thoughts available. It is a nice trick though... ;) thanks for the warning though. -- Douglas J. Hunley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - Linux User #174778 Admin: http://hunley.homeip.net/Admin: http://linux.nf/ Brainbench Linux Administration Certified ~~ Now offering Linux admin services for the home user ~~ "Arthur yawed wildly as his skin tried to jump one way and his skeleton the other, whilst his brain tried to work out which of his ears it most wanted to crawl out of. ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: nimda worm
On Wednesday 19 September 2001 17:59, Ronnie Gauthier babbled: > is this what the virus does on its own or is this site setup to infect on > purpose? the virus does this. neat trick actually.. -- Douglas J. Hunley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - Linux User #174778 Admin: http://hunley.homeip.net/Admin: http://linux.nf/ Brainbench Linux Administration Certified ~~ Now offering Linux admin services for the home user ~~ Miss Wormwood, could we arrange our seats in a little circle and have a little discussion? Specifically, I'd like to debate whether cannibalism ought to be grounds for leniency in murders since it is less wasteful. -- Calvin ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
RE: Fwd: Active defense gets serious: Announcing LaBrea 2.0
It will only work with unused ip Addresses. -Original Message- From: Jerry McBride Sent: Wed 9/19/2001 5:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Subject: Re: Fwd: Active defense gets serious: Announcing LaBrea 2.0 On Wed, 19 Sep 2001 07:57:35 -0400 "DOUGLAS HUNLEY" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > what does everyone think of this? > I'm confused as usual... Does LaBrea require an unused ip to work or will it defend an ip that actively being used? I set it up on my home lan, on the server. It didn't appear to "capture" anything except my imagination. :') So... how about a HOW-TO for us to busy to RTFM? -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux 5:50pm up 16 days, 4:57, 7 users, load average: 0.11, 0.05, 0.01 ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Dedicated hosting (Cobalt Raq)
I use the Raq4's. Installation and setups are easy, they are fairly solid and based on redhat 6.0. Cobalt has nice support pages and online security updates with their own RPM installer. All maint and updates can be done via browser on :81. One thing, you cant heavily reconfig or mess with them too much or Sun considers your warranty void, as long as you keep updates in they do warranty the software. I do find Sun a bit more stiffer on giving free support that cobalt was but they have helped me with the reply of "this time but next time you pay." And yes, it was our fault the box died, but they did help although we did have to buy the restore disk. So I guess it depends on your host, do you support yourself or do they keep your box running and updated. Go to http://cobalt.com for more info on the boxes. We host, just what are your requirements and intended use? We dont do porn, warez, hate, or search engines/software repositories. On Wednesday 19 September 2001 16:47, Federico Voges wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi, > > I'm searching for a dedicated hosting provider. > > Anyone has experience with these servers (Raq3/Raq4)?? > > Besides that: Anyone can comment on any of this providers?? > > RackShack: http://www.rackshack.net/ (There's not much info/details > about their services. Subsidiary of Everyones Internet) > > Dialtone Internet: http://www.dialtone.com/ (They've called me by > phone USA->Argentina. They've offered me an interesting plan) > > TIA, > > > > > Federico Voges > Socio gerente > > Intrasoft > Malabia 2137 14 A > (1425) Buenos Aires > Argentina > > Te/Fax: 54-11-4833-5182 > e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Web: http://www.intrasoft.com.ar > > PGP Public Key Fingerprint: A536 4595 EB6F D197 FBC1 5C3A 145C 2516 > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and > its affiliated companies. > > iQA/AwUBO6kSchRcJRaVKt4XEQJnKwCfeiLvZFemJ0cgzd2up42/DUJGypcAoKHL > BdyeqrbrvoM52MAJ6h1Y8+M0 > =KQmw > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > > ___ > http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc > ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- Ronnie == Life can be a dream; or it can be a nightmare it's all in your mind ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Mozilla 0.9.4 java plugin
On Wed, 19 Sep 2001 08:48:12 -0700 (PDT) Net Llama <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Seems to have started magically working for me not me, I deleted it, don't care. Flash works so far. -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Problem with kde2.2.1 rpms for ew3.1
I had previously upgraded ew3.1 to kde 2.2 without any real problems. And then just recently kde 2.2.1 was released which was something that I was waiting for at artsd always seems to be dying on me up to this point. The install was a success except for one thing. My login manager seems to feel the urge to operate in german(?) although the rest of kde shows up in english as wanted. I've taken a peak in the kontrol center but can't seem to find anything to set the login manager language. Any suggestions? Now to go see if artsd has finally learnt out how to behave it (worked nicely when I used it in kde2.1 but of course that release didn't like my graphics card and I personally prefer graphics to sound) David Aikema ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: nimda worm
yeah I went there ona winbox yesterday, it was the most common hit from nimda worm it opened a folder i immediately closed it dont really understand what its trying to do other than open a non resizeable window at 6000x6000... I wasa able to avoid being infected do to dialup since it takes so long to DL it, closed it before it gets downloaded hehe well using konquerer i went again and did the second one(since I have pine installed) it opened a console with a prepared email to myslef.witha bunch of crap in it... anyway.. onto the rest of my maill... On Wednesday 19 September 2001 16:59, you wrote: > Dont do this with a win box! > > Go here. read the page source. Note the javascript > http://208.163.77.109 > > then get > http://208.163.77.109/readme.eml > > is this what the virus does on its own or is this site setup to infect on > purpose? -- Bill Day A.K.A. BadMan RLU#188133 RLM#83358 http://counter.li.org irc.openprojects.net #linux-users MicroShaft is the only company that introduces an OS that is worse than the one it replaces. <---> 7:30pm up 49 days, 9:31, 25 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: (no subject)
take a look at http://linux.nf first. HP is the usual choice. Ian Marchak wrote: >Anyone have any experiences, good or bad, with scanners that are intended for >office use. Namely, I am trying to track down reviews and details on scanners >that include: > >- D-Size / 11x17 / A3 format >- Colour >- auto document feeder (50+ page capacity) >- Duplex scanning nice but not necessary. > >Most of the contenders I have found weigh in at 6-7K $US...caught me a bit off >guard. It seems thought that this is about the going rate for this type of >critter. > _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: fighting the worm (enough of this already)
no way. worms would merely lure more users to pay more to microsoft so that she could solve their problems, kind of a "negative" feedback loop. >Let's take a vote. Does anyone think that current users of windows products >(server or browser) will switch because of this latest worm? >I vote no, because if they didn't switch after the last worm, they don't >have the brains or time to make a switch. > _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Security discussion anyone?
dep on computer security vigilance: http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/opinions/3784/1/ -- "No enterprise is more likely to succeed than one concealed from the enemy until it is ripe for execution." Machiavelli from _The Art of War_ ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: I need the plain facts about WORD filters
On Tue, 18 Sep 2001 22:51:51 -0400 Joel Hammer wrote: > But, I have come to realize that when you are supposed to be an Information > Services professional, and don't have a clue, you push to become a completely > Microsoft shop. This isn't a sick joke. I'm speaking from experience. > Joel Our downward spiral into perdition began in earnest when the CIO got to spend the day on Billy boy's yacht. -- --- | Alan K. Jackson| To see a World in a Grain of Sand | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | And a Heaven in a Wild Flower, | | www.ajackson.org | Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand | | Houston, Texas | And Eternity in an hour. - Blake | --- ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: I am afraid...
Isn't it funny, but when we start talking about the need to defend rights and freedom, the first thing we do is to suspend the civil rights of all honest, healthy, straight men between 18-?40 (How high will they go? And, they don't draft felons, do they? Or the other, very noisy half of the adult population, you know, the ones with TWO X chromosomes.) Makes you think. Joel ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: nimda worm
Well noticed a couple other things after I posted this(on linux, kde2.x and kmail) had an email for win 98 ping...eml opened it with adv txt editor didnt interest me so I deleted opened up kmail and noticed to new folders in it.. sam.eml and '01 it position a.eml... dont know where the hell they came from... On Wednesday 19 September 2001 20:08, you wrote: > yeah I went there ona winbox yesterday, it was the most common hit from > nimda worm > > it opened a folder i immediately closed it > > dont really understand what its trying to do other than open a non > resizeable window at 6000x6000... I wasa able to avoid being infected do > to dialup since it takes so long to DL it, closed it before it gets > downloaded hehe > > well using konquerer i went again and did the second one(since I have pine > installed) it opened a console with a prepared email to myslef.witha > bunch of crap in it... > > anyway.. onto the rest of my maill... > > On Wednesday 19 September 2001 16:59, you wrote: > > Dont do this with a win box! > > > > Go here. read the page source. Note the javascript > > http://208.163.77.109 > > > > then get > > http://208.163.77.109/readme.eml > > > > is this what the virus does on its own or is this site setup to infect on > > purpose? -- Bill Day A.K.A. BadMan RLU#188133 RLM#83358 http://counter.li.org irc.openprojects.net #linux-users MicroShaft is the only company that introduces an OS that is worse than the one it replaces. <---> 7:30pm up 49 days, 9:31, 25 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Scanners [was Re: (no subject)]
Chang wrote: > > take a look at http://linux.nf first. > HP is the usual choice. > > Ian Marchak wrote: > > >Anyone have any experiences, good or bad, with scanners that are intended for > >office use. Namely, I am trying to track down reviews and details on scanners > >that include: > > > >- D-Size / 11x17 / A3 format > >- Colour > >- auto document feeder (50+ page capacity) > >- Duplex scanning nice but not necessary. > > > >Most of the contenders I have found weigh in at 6-7K $US...caught me a bit off > >guard. It seems thought that this is about the going rate for this type of > >critter. HP makes nothing larger than 8.5x14 so they are out the door from the get go. -- Linux SxS [http://hal.humberc.on.ca/~mrcn0031/sxs/] ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Terminal Server ?
Hi! is their a step by step to set up a server so that terminals can be used to access the software from the server? (not disk less terminal, I think their called X terminals). I want to be able to maybe click on an icon to access the server "desktop", or maybe auto boot like the windoze startup. Thank you! (using 2 Linux boxes redhat/Debian and 2 windoze boxes. Running a basic network right now) ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
RE: fighting the worm (enough of this already)
I vote no, because they don't believe there is any alternative. A lot of these people don't know that much about their computer and Linux/Unix terrifies them. -Original Message- From: Chang Sent: Wed 9/19/2001 9:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Subject: Re: fighting the worm (enough of this already) no way. worms would merely lure more users to pay more to microsoft so that she could solve their problems, kind of a "negative" feedback loop. >Let's take a vote. Does anyone think that current users of windows products >(server or browser) will switch because of this latest worm? >I vote no, because if they didn't switch after the last worm, they don't >have the brains or time to make a switch. > _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
