Re: Which kernel?
On Mon, 24 Dec 2001 13:14,daddy scribed: > I'm going to compile my first kernel because I need to get USB > support. I've decided to upgrade from my stock 2.2.12 kernel to a > 2.4.??. Should I go with the latest kernel or something different. > TIA. 2.4.16 yep... -- Keith Antoine aka 'skippy' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: christmas and its HOT now Hotter!
On Mon, 24 Dec 2001 08:34,patrick kapturkiewicz scribed: > Merry Christmas to you all from the Alps. > It's -15°C cold here. There is plenty enough snow on the > fields > ...and on the roads (Snowplows' strike -- grin) > in this country not very far than the fine Lonni's pics ;-) > There is nothing better than a good wood fire in a little > chalet. > > Joyeux Noel a tous. > Patrick Well its now 5.30pm on Xmas Eve here in Queensland. It hit a high of 41C today with 90% humidity, feel like a squeezed sponge. Its predicted to get higher tomorrow, Xmas Day. Everything is hot to the touch, even bedsheets no good drinking beer as all it does is make it worse. I am going to clear out the fridge and climb in. So after all my whinging: I wish all of you on the lists whom I have had the pleasure of corresponding with, those whom I also have the honour to call friend, those who have helped others in ther hour of need, a very MERYY XMAS and a Joyous NEW YEAR, that has to be better than the one we have just experienced. Off to a beer and a meal of tiger prawns and steak, so there -- Keith Antoine aka 'skippy' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Which kernel?
--- daddy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm going to compile my first kernel because I need to get USB > support. I've decided to upgrade from my stock 2.2.12 kernel to a > 2.4.??. Should I go with the latest kernel or something different. If this is your first kernel build, I wouldn't bite off more than you can chew. In other words, don't try to start adding all kinds of fancy features, such as USB support until you are comfortable building a kernel in the first place. Sure, you might find it quite easy, and get a fully functional, USB-enabled kernel on the first try, but you may not, and trying to get USB working will just be another place to screw up. I'd recommend rebuilding the 2.2.12 kernel that you have so that it has the same exact functionality that you're using now. If that goes well, then work on moving up to a 2.4.17 kernel. Going from 2.2.x to 2.4.x kernels is not very difficult, but its not a very smooth process either, as *ALOT* of packages will need to be upgraded to get a working 2.4.x kernel. See /usr/src/linux/Documentation/Changes in your 2.4.17 source tree for the minimum requirements. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Which kernel?
daddy wrote: > I'm going to compile my first kernel because I need to get USB > support. I've decided to upgrade from my stock 2.2.12 kernel to a > 2.4.??. Should I go with the latest kernel or something different. > TIA. I would use 2.4.16 or 2.4.17. Earlier than that, it's hit or miss whether the kernel is any good or not (meaning that I can't keep them straight). I just did 2.4.17 tonight and it worked fine, but I've heard of problems compiling X and glibc against it. I don't see anything in the LKML archive to suggest avoiding 2.4.17. Dave ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Which kernel?
On Sun, 23 Dec 2001 21:14:29 -0600 daddy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm going to compile my first kernel because I need to get USB > support. I've decided to upgrade from my stock 2.2.12 kernel to a > 2.4.??. Should I go with the latest kernel or something different. > TIA. > current kernel (2.4.17) is what I'm running, and it's aok. -- Collins Richey Denver Area - 22DEC2001 - WWTLRD? gentoo_rc6 k2.4.17+ext3+xfce+sylpheed+galeon ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Which kernel?
I'm going to compile my first kernel because I need to get USB support. I've decided to upgrade from my stock 2.2.12 kernel to a 2.4.??. Should I go with the latest kernel or something different. TIA. Mark ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: killed gui...
I haven't been following this closely, so i apologize if this was already covered. Did you build the new version of kdm from source, or was it a precompiled binary? I'm wondering if you built if from source, you didn't include PAM support, or something like that? --- Tim Wunder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Previously, BadMan chose to write: > > This is what I receive in tail -f /var/log/secure from the kde2 kdm: > > Dec 23 17:29:03 linuxbox PAM-warn[2726]: service: kde [on terminal: > :0] > > Dec 23 17:29:03 linuxbox PAM-warn[2726]: user: (uid=0) -> bill > [remote: > > ?nobody@?nowhere] Dec 23 17:30:05 linuxbox PAM-warn[2726]: service: > kde [on > > terminal: :0] Dec 23 17:30:05 linuxbox PAM-warn[2726]: user: (uid=0) > -> > > root [remote: ?nobody@?nowhere] > > > > I can find no other items with errors from attempted logins... I > have been > > doing all this without reboots(and hope to continue so) > > > > Any other Ideas where I should look for possible problems...? > > Can you return things to the way they were and start over? > > Can you log in as root and edit the login manager from within KDE? I > can't > remember if KDE 2.1.1 on eD2.4 let you configure that or not. If you > can, > remove all users then add them back again. > > Of course, if you can't login using kdm, I guess that'll be tough. I > never > tried to remove KDE1 from eD2.4, so I can't offer too much help on > this. I > assume you've read everything on the SxS site regarding the removal of > KDE1. > > Have you looked at your kdmrc file in /opt/kde2/share/config/? = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: killed gui...
Previously, BadMan chose to write: > This is what I receive in tail -f /var/log/secure from the kde2 kdm: > Dec 23 17:29:03 linuxbox PAM-warn[2726]: service: kde [on terminal: :0] > Dec 23 17:29:03 linuxbox PAM-warn[2726]: user: (uid=0) -> bill [remote: > ?nobody@?nowhere] Dec 23 17:30:05 linuxbox PAM-warn[2726]: service: kde [on > terminal: :0] Dec 23 17:30:05 linuxbox PAM-warn[2726]: user: (uid=0) -> > root [remote: ?nobody@?nowhere] > > I can find no other items with errors from attempted logins... I have been > doing all this without reboots(and hope to continue so) > > Any other Ideas where I should look for possible problems...? Can you return things to the way they were and start over? Can you log in as root and edit the login manager from within KDE? I can't remember if KDE 2.1.1 on eD2.4 let you configure that or not. If you can, remove all users then add them back again. Of course, if you can't login using kdm, I guess that'll be tough. I never tried to remove KDE1 from eD2.4, so I can't offer too much help on this. I assume you've read everything on the SxS site regarding the removal of KDE1. Have you looked at your kdmrc file in /opt/kde2/share/config/? HTH, Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Vi question: Graphics
Try :digraphs to see the various acsii codes and symbols. BOF Joel Hammer wrote: >Any vi users here? >I would like to use the [CNTRL]V sequence to add simple graphical thingees >like small boxes and circles to my text files. Is there a way to do this >with vi? I have checked out the ascii and iso-8859 pages, and I don't see >any graphical thinges in those ascii codes. > ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: killed gui...
guess it would have helped to mention that this is kde 2.1.1on a stock COLeD2.4 kernel of 2.2.14 with all other security updates. Bill Day ( a.k.a. BadMan ) 188133 http://counter.li.org irc.openprojects.net #linux-users ( Open 24/7 ) Our crystal tears now fall upon the ashes, but from the dust shall grow a spirit, to be in compassion for those who are lost, and one in determination to break those who dare test our resolve to be free... http://www.daysdomain.com/tribute.html 2:30pm up 144 days, 5:01, 17 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 - Original Message - From: Tim Wunder To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2001 3:50 PM Subject: Re: killed gui... Previously, BadMan chose to write:> ok, I changed my path for inittab to look in /opt/kde2/bin/kdm and receive> my gui login for kde again, however, all users(including root) get a> failed login for the kde2 desktop>> little more info, all (both kde1 and kde2 we're working perfectly before I> began this little escapade to remove kde1)>> Also, now on lookout so please excuse the crappy wordwrap>> checked /var/log/gui and pointed to /etc/X11/kdm/Xsetup_0:> /etc/X11/kdm/Xsetup_0: /opt/kde/bin/kdmdesktop: No such file or directory>> So I edited it did telinit 3 then telinit 5 got gui back but still not able> to login, see the kdm with all the available suers but login fails>/opt/kde2/share/config/kdm/kdmrc configures kdm in KDE 2.2.x, /opt/kde2/share/config/kdmrc controls it for earlier versions of KDE2. There was a major change to kdmrc from 2.1x to 2.2x.Look there for clues.HTH, Tim___Linux-users mailing listArchives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: ELX Linux
On Sun, 23 Dec 2001 10:50:17 -0800 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > For those of you who like to try new distros, ELX Linux is available > for download today. > > The FTP connection didn't work but the HTTP one did. I haven't > finished downloading it yet so don't have any other comments. > > you can get it at > > www.elxlinux.com > > click on download > Must have just been "max connections open" on the server. I'm downloading it now using the ftp connection. -- Collins Richey Denver Area - 22DEC2001 - WWTLRD? gentoo_rc6 k2.4.17+ext3+xfce+sylpheed+galeon ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: christmas and its HOT!
Merry Christmas to you all from the Alps. It's -15°C cold here. There is plenty enough snow on the fields ...and on the roads (Snowplows' strike -- grin) in this country not very far than the fine Lonni's pics ;-) There is nothing better than a good wood fire in a little chalet. Joyeux Noel a tous. Patrick > ---Message d'origine--- > De : Keith Antoine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date : 23/12/2001 03:15:39 > > Merry Xmas to all and the very best wishes to all fro the New year. Ithas to > be better than the last one dosen't it ?? > __ E-mail gratuit - Multimania - http://www.multimania.fr
Re: killed gui...
This is what I receive in tail -f /var/log/secure from the kde2 kdm: Dec 23 17:29:03 linuxbox PAM-warn[2726]: service: kde [on terminal: :0]Dec 23 17:29:03 linuxbox PAM-warn[2726]: user: (uid=0) -> bill [remote: ?nobody@?nowhere]Dec 23 17:30:05 linuxbox PAM-warn[2726]: service: kde [on terminal: :0]Dec 23 17:30:05 linuxbox PAM-warn[2726]: user: (uid=0) -> root [remote: ?nobody@?nowhere] I can find no other items with errors from attempted logins... I have been doing all this without reboots(and hope to continue so) Any other Ideas where I should look for possible problems...? Bill Day ( a.k.a. BadMan ) 188133 http://counter.li.org irc.openprojects.net #linux-users ( Open 24/7 ) Our crystal tears now fall upon the ashes, but from the dust shall grow a spirit, to be in compassion for those who are lost, and one in determination to break those who dare test our resolve to be free... http://www.daysdomain.com/tribute.html 2:30pm up 144 days, 5:01, 17 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 - Original Message - From: BadMan To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2001 2:38 PM Subject: Re: killed gui... ok, I changed my path for inittab to look in /opt/kde2/bin/kdm and receive my gui login for kde again, however, all users(including root) get a failed login for the kde2 desktop little more info, all (both kde1 and kde2 we're working perfectly before I began this little escapade to remove kde1) Also, now on lookout so please excuse the crappy wordwrap checked /var/log/gui and pointed to /etc/X11/kdm/Xsetup_0: /etc/X11/kdm/Xsetup_0: /opt/kde/bin/kdmdesktop: No such file or directory So I edited it did telinit 3 then telinit 5 got gui back but still not able to login, see the kdm with all the available suers but login fails Bill Day ( a.k.a. BadMan ) 188133 http://counter.li.org irc.openprojects.net #linux-users ( Open 24/7 ) Our crystal tears now fall upon the ashes, but from the dust shall grow a spirit, to be in compassion for those who are lost, and one in determination to break those who dare test our resolve to be free... http://www.daysdomain.com/tribute.html 2:30pm up 144 days, 5:01, 17 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 - Original Message - From: Anita Lewis Newsgroups: sxs.lists.linux-users To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2001 1:09 PM Subject: Re: killed gui... On Sun, 23 Dec 2001 11:40:57 -0700, Dave Anselmi wrote:> > Look at /etc/inittab. That's where init gets told what you want to do in> run level 5. Hopefully the fix is as simple as giving init the correct> path to your new kdm.And if it's not that simple at least you can change the default there from 5to 2 and boot into console mode. Make sure that you don't have a link in/etc/rc2.d to kdm or xdm, because on my install that directory had S99xdm. It took me a while to figure out why runlevel 2 was giving me a gui.Anita___Linux-users mailing listArchives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: killed gui...
Previously, BadMan chose to write: > ok, I changed my path for inittab to look in /opt/kde2/bin/kdm and receive > my gui login for kde again, however, all users(including root) get a > failed login for the kde2 desktop > > little more info, all (both kde1 and kde2 we're working perfectly before I > began this little escapade to remove kde1) > > Also, now on lookout so please excuse the crappy wordwrap > > checked /var/log/gui and pointed to /etc/X11/kdm/Xsetup_0: > /etc/X11/kdm/Xsetup_0: /opt/kde/bin/kdmdesktop: No such file or directory > > So I edited it did telinit 3 then telinit 5 got gui back but still not able > to login, see the kdm with all the available suers but login fails > /opt/kde2/share/config/kdm/kdmrc configures kdm in KDE 2.2.x, /opt/kde2/share/config/kdmrc controls it for earlier versions of KDE2. There was a major change to kdmrc from 2.1x to 2.2x. Look there for clues. HTH, Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Dumb Question of the week
On Sun, 23 Dec 2001 16:06,stayler scribed: > Would you guys be able to point me to a good reference on major and > minor numbers for file systems. I'm p-laying with IDE CDROM and DVD > drives and COL is complaining about wrong major/minor numbers. They > are set to 1 1 just like my SCSI's. Suggestions? > > stayler Thems not the major or minor numbers complained about. I am guessing you are looking in fstab, whilst the numbers are displayed in /dev against the driver. -- Keith Antoine aka 'skippy' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: hot summer days
On Sun, 23 Dec 2001 16:03,stayler scribed: > On Sun, 23 Dec 2001 15:56:16 +1000, Keith Antoine wrote: > >Um, sitting here its 4pm and 33C Humidity 100%. The Temp on the cpu is > >63C (about 147F) and the systemm is 40C (about 106F). The room is > > hotter with the beast going so I am going to shutdown and have a cool > > beer and plenty of water. > > Good idea Skippy, > > You in a queenslander or are you surface mount ;-) , To us a queenslander is a type of house peculiar to Qld, old style lost of verandah space and on stumps (stilts), you must have seen them. I am NOT walking my 4 k this morning as at 5.15am its 28C and 96%% humidity, does not leave much room for a good day. -- Keith Antoine aka 'skippy' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: killed gui...
On Sun, 23 Dec 2001 11:40:57 -0700, Dave Anselmi wrote: > > Look at /etc/inittab. That's where init gets told what you want to do in > run level 5. Hopefully the fix is as simple as giving init the correct > path to your new kdm. And if it's not that simple at least you can change the default there from 5 to 2 and boot into console mode. Make sure that you don't have a link in /etc/rc2.d to kdm or xdm, because on my install that directory had S99xdm. It took me a while to figure out why runlevel 2 was giving me a gui. Anita ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: killed gui...
[This message has also been posted.] On Sun, 23 Dec 2001 11:40:57 -0700, Dave Anselmi wrote: > > Look at /etc/inittab. That's where init gets told what you want to do in > run level 5. Hopefully the fix is as simple as giving init the correct > path to your new kdm. And if it's not that simple at least you can change the default there from 5 to 2 and boot into console mode. Make sure that you don't have a link in /etc/rc2.d to kdm or xdm, because on my install that directory had S99xdm. It took me a while to figure out why runlevel 2 was giving me a gui. Anita ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
ELX Linux
For those of you who like to try new distros, ELX Linux is available for download today. The FTP connection didn't work but the HTTP one did. I haven't finished downloading it yet so don't have any other comments. you can get it at www.elxlinux.com click on download Ray Ray & Nancy Plummer Copper, Elektra & WOK http://www.nanray.cjb.net/gsdped/gsdbintro.html ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: killed gui...
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Well, I was attempting to remove kde1.1.2 to make my machine a > "leaner, meaner an faster machine" unfortuanately I boobed > someplace. > > x is still good, but cannot get to a gui for login now.. > > Using the line /etc/rc.d/rc.gui > > INIT: /opt/kde/bin/kdm: not installed Look at /etc/inittab. That's where init gets told what you want to do in run level 5. Hopefully the fix is as simple as giving init the correct path to your new kdm. Dave ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
killed gui...
Well, I was attempting to remove kde1.1.2 to make my machine a "leaner, meaner an faster machine" unfortuanately I boobed someplace. x is still good, but cannot get to a gui for login now.. Using the line /etc/rc.d/rc.gui INIT: /opt/kde/bin/kdm: not installed I changed the line in /etc/config.d/shells/bashrc to read kde2 as follows... [ -z "$KDEDIR" ]&&[ -d /opt/kde2 ] && export KDEDIR=/opt/kde2 backedup my X11 scripts and proceeded to remove kde1 items. (I have not yet removed qt1), logged out of gui, switched to tty1 logged in as root replaced my X11 scripts and proceeded with /etc/rc.d/rc.gui to receive above. telinit 5 gives the following INIT: /opt/kde/bin/kdm: not installed INIT: Switching to runlevel: 3 INIT: sending processes the TERM signal Press to continue back to my loggin prompt. I also did perform the kill pid of kdm but there was no process to kill Im currently using a webmail interface from browser so I hope the wordwrap aint too awfull. TIA for any ideas. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: christmas and its HOT!
Jay Nugent wrote: >Too bad we blew it back in the late 70's, early 80's when we were > *supposed* to move over to the metric system. Base-10 is FAR better a > measurement scale than Base-the-kings-feet and other arbitrary scales. > > 0c = pure water freezes 32f >100c = pure water boils (at sea level) 212f > > 1g = 1cc pure water (in liquid state) > > 1calorie = raise 1cc pure water 1c in 1minute > >Dang! Nice how dimensional measurements and mass and temperature all > relate to one another like that :-) Water is only 1g/cc at 4C. Where'd they get that, you ask? That's the temp where liquid water is densest (sea-level pressure and all that). Also, a calorie is based on grams, not cc's and doesn't have anything to do with minutes. Calories are a measure of energy, not power. Dave ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: WP8 envelope question
OK. I will make it more ambitious. I will look into doing envelopes with several applications. This may take a couple of weeks. Joel On Sun, Dec 23, 2001 at 04:54:10PM +0100, Zoran wrote: > On Dec 22 Joel Hammer was heard saying: > > ->Do you really think this is worth a SxS? > ->Joel > ->> On Dec 21 Joel Hammer was heard saying: > ->> > ->> ->Well, I finally solved this vexing problem, without having to tinker with > ^^ > > *** You gave the answer already... ;-) Why letting somebody else with the > same problem reinvent the wheel? > > A few lines, that's all. > > Cheers, > Zoran. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: hot summer days
Keith Antoine wrote: > What I forgot to say and was the point is that I cannot format floppies > they all error out and the machines is HOT, so what is the max temp for Atlon > and hd's in C ? 90C, 194F, from the AMD datasheet. Mine (850) runs about 57C whether it's hot or cold in the house. It would run cooler, but I have a broken ASUS board. Dave ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Dumb Question of the week
Net Llama wrote: > --- stayler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Would you guys be able to point me to a good reference on major and > > minor numbers for file systems. I'm p-laying with IDE CDROM and DVD > > drives and COL is complaining about wrong major/minor numbers. They > > are set to 1 1 just like my SCSI's. Suggestions? > > /usr/src/linux/Documentation/devices.txt If you don't have the kernel source handy, or the devices.txt isn't part of your distros docs, you can find the same info at: http://www.lanana.org/docs/device-list/devices.txt Dave ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Windows98: Command prompt?
Go to start . Run > type COMMAND and click ok that should get you to Dos prompt. M$ Windows Sucks Jamal. - Original Message - From: zohar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2001 11:11 PM Subject: Re: Windows98: Command prompt? > "command" in START-RUN > - Original Message - > From: "Joel Hammer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2001 8:32 PM > Subject: Windows98: Command prompt? > > > > A bit OT but: > > Does anyone know how to get a MSDOS prompt on a window98 computer which > > doesn't list that option anywhere? > > My son needs to backup everything from his new laptop which has windows98. > > It would be easiest just to run ftp from the command line but we can't > find a way to get an > > MSDOS prompt on his fancy HP powerful laptop computer. The fancy windows > > GUI ftp client doesn't have a way to select all files at the same time. > > I know, I know, dump windows, but he has to use windows at school. > > Everytime I work with windows I am astounded by what an awful operating > > system it is but its what we have to work with. > > He is tired of windows98 crashing several times per day. > > So, he is going to install XP professional ($20 [no upgrade] from his > school > > bookstore.) I may be tempted at that price. > > Joel > > > > ___ > > Linux-users mailing list > > Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users > > ___ > Linux-users mailing list > Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users > ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: WP8 envelope question
On Dec 22 Joel Hammer was heard saying: ->Do you really think this is worth a SxS? ->Joel ->> On Dec 21 Joel Hammer was heard saying: ->> ->> ->Well, I finally solved this vexing problem, without having to tinker with ^^ *** You gave the answer already... ;-) Why letting somebody else with the same problem reinvent the wheel? A few lines, that's all. Cheers, Zoran. -- "Software is like sex, It's better when it's Free..." -- Linus Torvalds ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: christmas and its HOT!
On Sat, 22 Dec 2001 18:53:43 -0800 David Aikema <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On December 22, 2001 06:51 pm, Lee wrote: > > Keith Antoine wrote: > > > Here I am sitting with towel round waist at 6.20pm after coming > > > out of shower for the 4th time today, also having had the > > > machine shut down 4 times also. > > > > > > It got to 37C about 1.30 and is still 30C at the moment. Fans do > > > little to cool one down and I had 3 travel jobs to do today. > > > That meant driving with aircon struggling, so much so that I > > > burnt my hand getting back in after an hr and 30 on the steering > > > wheel, also the safety belt buckle was just to hard to fasten. > > > There is no sign of a good storm to cool things down. > > > > 37C? What does that come to in real temperature (F)? > > C = 5/9(F-32) so... which works out to roughly 100F > Ah, yes, you Ozzies always get it bass-ackards! After probably the mildest fall into winter on record, we're finally getting cold weather - a little snow on the ground yesterday, but the Denver winter sun will take care of that in no time. I spent the early evening hours trailing my daughter round the mall looking for last minute presents. Have a Merry Sweat or Shiver, depending on your locale! -- Collins Richey Denver Area - 22DEC2001 - WWTLRD? gentoo_rc6 k2.4.17+ext3+xfce+sylpheed+galeon ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
LFS
Well, the saga continues. Since LFS w/ 2.4.16 seemed to have problems compiling X, thought I'd see how 2.4.17 fared. Here, glibc-2.2.4 won't compile. Complains about incosistencies in the operand in the spinlock definition in spin.h. If it's not one thing it's another. Ciao, David A. Bandel -- Focus on the dream, not the competition. -- Nemesis Racing Team motto Internet (H323) phone: 206.28.187.30 ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [OT] testing my smtp
reading the books... working on it... :) Michael Scottaline wrote: > > On Sun, 23 Dec 2001 18:41:46 +0800 > Chang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribbled in frustration: > > > testing > > Passed... Next?! > > -- > "Alcohol is the anesthesia by which we endure the operation of life." > -- George Bernard Shaw > ___ > Linux-users mailing list > Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- The pivotal point is the "second chance", judged by another set of criteria. In Linux We Trust -- http://linux.nf and news://news.hkpcug.org ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [OT] testing my smtp
On Sun, 23 Dec 2001 18:41:46 +0800 Chang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribbled in frustration: > testing Passed... Next?! -- "Alcohol is the anesthesia by which we endure the operation of life." -- George Bernard Shaw ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: christmas and its HOT!
On Sat, 22 Dec 2001 22:37:43 -0500 (EST) Jay Nugent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribbled in frustration: >Too bad we blew it back in the late 70's, early 80's when we were > *supposed* to move over to the metric system. Base-10 is FAR better a > measurement scale than Base-the-kings-feet and other arbitrary scales. > > 0c = pure water freezes 32f >100c = pure water boils (at sea level) 212f > > 1g = 1cc pure water (in liquid state) > > 1calorie = raise 1cc pure water 1c in 1minute > >Dang! Nice how dimensional measurements and mass and temperature all > relate to one another like that :-) == Makes my head hurt!! :-( Talk of kernel compilations and the relative merits of various versions of gcc is much less confusing and stressing. ;o) I hope everyone has a wonderful holiday!! Mike -- "Alcohol is the anesthesia by which we endure the operation of life." -- George Bernard Shaw ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: christmas and its HOT!
On Sun, 23 Dec 2001 00:30:18 -0500 Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spewed into the bitstream: > Jay Nugent wrote: > > > Greetings, > > > > On Sat, 22 Dec 2001, Lee wrote: > > > > > Jay Nugent wrote: > > > > > > >Snip > > > > >Too bad we blew it back in the late 70's, early 80's when we were > > > > *supposed* to move over to the metric system. Base-10 is FAR better a > > > > measurement scale than Base-the-kings-feet and other arbitrary scales. > > > > > > Metric is just as arbitrary as a king's foot being 12 inches long rather than 10 and > > > 36 inches from tip of his nose to finger tips. In the universe there's nothing more > > > arbitrary than the circumference of the Earth or boiling and freezing point of pure > > > water at one standard Earth atmosphere. > > > >Yeah, but how do you start from scratch unless you happen to have the > > king's body laying around somewhere. At least with a *water* standard, > > your referance is available in abundance on the vast majority of the > > planet. There was only ONE king and he's pretty rotted away by now so we > > can't really be sure that our measurement system is even in calibration > > anymore... ;-) We can recalibrate against a water standard at anytime. > > > > --- Jay > > Actual we don't need to. The US bureau of Standards maintains a metal standard for the > inch, foot, yard in a temperature controled environment along with metric and atomic > standards for wave length standards. As far as pure water there is no such thing in the > universe. Any planet that has sufficient atmosphere pressure and te mperature to > maintain water in the liquid state also has gasepus impurities that end up in the water > effecting it's boilling and freezing points. > That's not all that affects the boiling and freezing points. I doubt you'll find many other planets that have the same gravity as wee do (thus the same psi at sea level, which also affects the measurement). Ciao, David A. Bandel -- Focus on the dream, not the competition. -- Nemesis Racing Team motto Internet (H323) phone: 206.28.187.30 ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Dumb Question of the week
Greetings, On Sat, 22 Dec 2001, stayler wrote: > Would you guys be able to point me to a good reference on major and > minor numbers for file systems. I'm p-laying with IDE CDROM and DVD > drives and COL is complaining about wrong major/minor numbers. They > are set to 1 1 just like my SCSI's. Suggestions? 1 1 I think you have this wrong. I think you are looking at some flags in /etc/fstab. These are NOT the major and Minor numbers. These are the 'dump' and 'fsck-order' numbers. A '1' in the dump column means to check this partition at boot time, a '0' means not to check it. The fsck-order number means to check them in the following order. 1 first, 2 second, etc. More than one partition can be checked at a time (albeit slower on the same spindle) across diverse spindles. # # /etc/fstab # # # /dev/hda2 / ext2 defaults 1 1 /dev/hda4 /home ext2 defaults 1 2 /dev/hda1 /boot ext2 defaults 1 2 /dev/hdd /mnt/cdrom iso9660 ro,noauto 0 0 /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppyext2 noauto0 0 /dev/fd0 /mnt/dosfpymsdosnoauto0 0 defunct:(pid231) /net ignore 0 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 /dev/hda3 swap swap defaults 0 0 # # Second Hard Drive (HDB) # /dev/hdb1 /mnt/dosmsdos defaults,noauto 00 /dev/hdb2 /mnt/backup ext2defaults,noauto 13 #/dev/hdb3 noneswapsw /dev/hdb4 /u ext2defaults 12 # # --end of file-- # For Major/Minor numbers just take a look at the /dev directory. For IDE drives the 3 is the Major number and the 0 thru 16 is the Minor number: brw-rw 1 root disk 3, 0 Sep 7 1994 hda brw-rw 1 root disk 3, 1 Sep 7 1994 hda1 brw-rw 1 root disk 3, 2 Sep 7 1994 hda2 brw-rw 1 root disk 3, 3 Sep 7 1994 hda3 brw-rw 1 root disk 3, 4 Sep 7 1994 hda4 brw-rw 1 root disk 3, 5 Sep 7 1994 hda5 brw-rw 1 root disk 3, 6 Sep 7 1994 hda6 brw-rw 1 root disk 3, 7 Sep 7 1994 hda7 brw-rw 1 root disk 3, 8 Sep 7 1994 hda8 brw-rw 1 root disk 3, 9 Sep 7 1994 hda9 brw-rw 1 root disk 3, 10 Sep 7 1994 hda10 brw-rw 1 root disk 3, 11 Sep 7 1994 hda11 brw-rw 1 root disk 3, 12 Sep 7 1994 hda12 brw-rw 1 root disk 3, 13 Sep 7 1994 hda13 brw-rw 1 root disk 3, 14 Sep 7 1994 hda14 brw-rw 1 root disk 3, 15 Sep 7 1994 hda15 brw-rw 1 root disk 3, 16 Aug 2 1996 hda16 Hope this helps clear a few things up... --- Jay "Those that sacrifice essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Ben Franklin (1759) ++ | Jay Nugent [EMAIL PROTECTED](734)971-1076(734)971-4529/Fax| | Nugent Telecommunications [www.nuge.com] (734)649-0850/Cell | | Internet Consulting/Linux SysAdmin/Engineering & Design/ISP Reseller | | ISP Monitoring [www.ispmonitor.net] ISP & Modem Performance Monitoring | | Web-Pegasus[www.webpegasus.com] Web Hosting/DNS Hosting/Shell Accts| | LinuxNIC, Inc. [www.linuxnic.net] Registrar of the .linux TLD| ++ 6:00am up 23 days, 2:44, 7 users, load average: 0.01, 0.03, 0.00 ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
[OT] testing my smtp
testing -- The pivotal point is the "second chance", judged by another set of criteria. In Linux We Trust -- http://linux.nf Let's share ideas. news://news.hkpcug.org ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Fwd: Re: What exactly is up with this?
,--- Forwarded message (begin) Subject: Re: What exactly is up with this? From: Leo Saguisag <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 15:12:30 -0800 On Fri, 21 Dec 2001 14:39:51 -0800, David Aikema <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Thus far any attempts to play with Kylix have caused me nothing but >problems when running Mandrake 8.1 the past couple months Kylix worked >the first time I loaded it (I may have upgraded kde and probably also qt >since then so that might be the cause) but ever since then it kept >prompting me to authorize it (I already had). > You can try going into your $HOME/.borland directory and deleting the file registry.bin to flush out your registration information. > >I tried entering the authorization key a >second time but that didn't do anything to alleviate my problems (I got a >'thanks for authorizing' and then the program never got beyond its splash >screen). I tried wiping out my .kylix directory just in case any of the >configuration files in there had gotten wrecked but that didn't really have >any positive effects (it would then hang on 'generating font matrix'... I >left it in that state for at least an hour). > Just close that dialog and try re-starting the IDE. This works. Bear in mind though that Mandrake 8.1 is running version 2.4 of the kernel, which has been known to cause problems with Kylix 1. Kylix 2 was certified on RedHat 7.1, Mandrake 8.0 and SuSE 7.2 so you'd have a much better chance of getting it working on Mandrake 8.1 if you used Kylix 2 instead. Open Edition is a free download as always. > >Now, I recently installed Suse... and grabbed the Kylix OE off the install >cds, thinking as this was packaged for the distribution it shouldn't cause me >any problems (and any dependencies it might require would be handled)... but >once again I was wrong. > >Now all I'm getting errors about not being able to find the configuration >files when launching the start script (how am I supposed to create them other >than to run the startup script?) Unfortunately, when SuSE repackaged Kylix 1 OE to put on the SuSE 7.3 CDs, they missed a few critical files. Borland has made a patch for this. Go to http://www.borland.com/devsupport/kylix/downloads/ and click on the link "Missing Configuration file for SuSE 7.3" These files are normally generated at install time by the Kylix installation scripts. Hence all the warnings on the documentation about *not* installing Kylix manually via RPM. However, again, since K1 was never certified on kernel 2.4, you would be much better off installing the Kylix 2 Open Edition. You can download it at http://www.borland.com/kylix/tryitnow.html >and also getting errors with a bunch of >libs. >I added /opt/kylix/bin to /etc/ld.so.conf and ran ldconfig (don't ask me >why >they have the libraries in bin instead of in lib...). > Highly not advised because Borland distributes a customized libqt.so which might interfere with other applications dependent on QT such as KDE. > >Now, when I try to launch Kylix directly I get the following error: > >david:/opt/kylix/bin # ./Kylix >./Kylix: error while loading shared libraries: bpldesignhooks.so.6: cannot >open >shared object file: No such file or directory >david:/opt/kylix/bin # ll bpldesignhooks.so.6 >lrwxrwxrwx1 root root 36 Dec 21 08:39 bpldesignhooks.so.6 >-> /opt/kylix/bin/bpldesignhooks.so.6.0 >david:/opt/kylix/bin # ll bpldesignhooks.so.6.0 >-rwxr-xr-x1 root root 8468 Jul 23 11:22 >bpldesignhooks.so.6.0 > >Anyone have any suggestions? I've read the preinstall, readme, install >help >files and none of them have really offered any help. You should always use the 'startkylix' script to launch Kylix. From the Kylix 1 README, under the section "RUNNING KYLIX" : Always start the IDE by running the startkylix script rather than running the kylix executable directly. (Both script and executable are located in the bin subdirectory under the Kylix installation directory.) The startkylix script sets up certain environment variables used by Kylix before starting the IDE. HTH. `--- Forwarded message (end) ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Vi question: Graphics
On Sun, Dec 23, 2001 at 02:47:56AM -0500, Joel Hammer wrote: >Any vi users here? >I would like to use the [CNTRL]V sequence to add simple graphical thingees >like small boxes and circles to my text files. Is there a way to do this >with vi? I have checked out the ascii and iso-8859 pages, and I don't see >any graphical thinges in those ascii codes. There aren't any. The graphical thingies are generally non-ascii, Microsoft specific codes. You can get limited screen graphics using curses where the codes are defined for a particular type of terminal (ANSI, Wyse60, xterm, etc.) in the terminfo or termcap files. This method is general and not tied into a specific type of terminal. Generally it's a Bad Idea(tm) to embed non-ascii codes in text files. http://www.fourmilab.ch/webtools/demoroniser/ Bill -- INTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC UUCP: camco!bill PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX:(206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 URL: http://www.celestial.com/ ``Guns are no more responsible for killing people than the spoon is responsible for making Rosie O'Donnell fat.'' ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
