Re: Hi there
On Friday 04 January 2002 11:39 am, Bill Parker observed: > Thought I would check this list out Well you got here, so welcome.. -- Keith Antoine aka 'skippy' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Switching to DHCPDC on Comcast
Well, I tried the straight forward approach: dhcpcd -d eth1 This actually worked, partly. eth1 got a new ip. I can see network traffic with tcpdump -i eth1. And, I can ping addresses in the local home network. My problem is I need to make a new route command for my new gateway (I assume it will be new.) but I can't find the files in /var/run or /etc/ that dhcpcd is supposed to create with this information in it. Any insight appreciated. Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Switching to DHCPDC on Comcast
I get the impression, from reading man dhcpcd, that the client simply tries to extend the lease from time to time. I guess it might depend if the server decides to allow the lease to continue. I do not see how they could change your ip while you are online, since wouldn't that break all your ongoing connections? Joel > > I've been fooling around with this... Making a number of connections via dhclient in >succession... I've been handed leases of varying lengths. I've seen some as large as >40 some hours to as little as 1 hour... Beats me why, unless I'm being handed a >leftover lease from a dropped connection... really odd. > ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Switching to DHCPDC on Comcast
Hmm... Looks like you are right. Just a matter of switching a couple of letters around. This command works fine when I run it from my RH 7.1 box against my linux dhcpd server. Joel On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 07:53:55PM -0800, David Aikema wrote: > On January 3, 2002 07:33 pm, Joel Hammer wrote: > > > I don't have dhcpdc on my caldera 2.4 box, with a 2.2 kernel patched > > for win4lin. So, questions: > > Are you sure you're not actually looking for a command called dhcpcd as > opposed to dhcpdc? IIRC, Caldera ships with that, but then again its been a > while since I've used their products. > ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Hi there
On January 03, Bill Parker enlightened our ignorance thusly: > Thought I would check this list out Greetings. I like it here. "They" haven't kicked me off yet, anyway. ;-) Kurt -- You will attract cultured and artistic people to your home. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Switching to DHCPDC on Comcast
Tom Wilson wrote: > > On Thursday 03 January 2002 10 22:33 pm, Joel Hammer dropped these nuggets of > information: > > Well, I have enjoyed a static ip number on my cable modem for a year or > > so from @HOME. But, they are dead, so I seem be forced to get a dynamic > > ip number. > I have had the same IP since I got my DSL (going on a year now) even though > they use DHCP. Although for my DSL it is a non-routable IP. > > I think it depends on how your client refreshes itself against their DHCP > server as to if they can change the IP. I imagine as long as it doesn't > assign the IP you have out in the time it takes to drop and request the IP > again it should be fine. That's one thing that I noticed right off the bat, the messages in /var/log/ changed: # [root@hostname /root]# tail /var/log/messages # Jan 3 22:21:02 hostname dhcpcd[23814]: infinite IP address lease time. # Exiting # Jan 3 22:38:53 hostname -- MARK -- -- Linux SxS [http://sxs.webhop.net/] ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Switching to DHCPDC on Comcast
David Aikema wrote: > > On January 3, 2002 07:33 pm, Joel Hammer wrote: > > > I don't have dhcpdc on my caldera 2.4 box, with a 2.2 kernel patched > > for win4lin. So, questions: > > Are you sure you're not actually looking for a command called dhcpcd as > opposed to dhcpdc? IIRC, Caldera ships with that, but then again its been a > while since I've used their products. I have an eS2.3 box (sorta simliar) still running as my gateway. I show 'dhcpcd-1.3.17p4-0' as the dhcp client RPM. The activation scripts are: /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifup-dhcp /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifdown-dhcp But first, you need to make sure you go into coastool and flip the card over to use dhcp instead of a fixed addy. coastool->network admin->common network functions->pnp configuration and follow your nose on the next steps, fill in the boxes and that's it. Or at least that's all it was for me when my cable company left the @home party. Keep us posted. -- Linux SxS [http://sxs.webhop.net/] ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Switching to DHCPDC on Comcast
On Thursday 03 January 2002 10 22:33 pm, Joel Hammer dropped these nuggets of information: > Well, I have enjoyed a static ip number on my cable modem for a year or > so from @HOME. But, they are dead, so I seem be forced to get a dynamic > ip number. > > I don't have dhcpdc on my caldera 2.4 box, with a 2.2 kernel patched > for win4lin. So, questions: > > 1. Which dhcpdc is best to use. I will likely use this same box as a > dhcpd server for my home network, as well. I used just the plain old dhcpcd when I ran eD2.4. I had it setup for DSL though. It should come with it unless you have removed it. If so you can probably pull it off the installation cd. Other clients are pump and dhclient. > 2. Does anyone know how long I will likely be keeping each assigned > dynamic number? I maintain a domain name on register.com and can access > my box and get mail with my domain name, provided I can associate my > domain name with an ip number on register.com's server. I still would > like to do that but it would be difficult if the ip number changed a > lot. I never turn my machine off. The question is, if you don't turn > off your machine, can they change the ip number? I have had the same IP since I got my DSL (going on a year now) even though they use DHCP. Although for my DSL it is a non-routable IP. I think it depends on how your client refreshes itself against their DHCP server as to if they can change the IP. I imagine as long as it doesn't assign the IP you have out in the time it takes to drop and request the IP again it should be fine. -- Tom Wilson Register Linux user # 199331 Live on your knees in conformity or die on you feet for honesty ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Switching to DHCPDC on Comcast
On Thu, 3 Jan 2002 22:33:01 -0500 Joel Hammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, I have enjoyed a static ip number on my cable modem for a year or > so from @HOME. But, they are dead, so I seem be forced to get a dynamic > ip number. > > I don't have dhcpdc on my caldera 2.4 box, with a 2.2 kernel patched > for win4lin. So, questions: > Upgrade to Workstation 3.1 if you like the caldera way of doing business. I did... > 1. Which dhcpdc is best to use. I will likely use this same box as a > dhcpd server for my home network, as well. > Well... I use (going to use) dhclient in ws 3.1 to connect to comcase.net. Since my local lan is all static... that's about all I'll have to worry about. That and twiddleing my rc.firewall rules. > 2. Does anyone know how long I will likely be keeping each assigned > dynamic number? > I've been fooling around with this... Making a number of connections via dhclient in succession... I've been handed leases of varying lengths. I've seen some as large as 40 some hours to as little as 1 hour... Beats me why, unless I'm being handed a leftover lease from a dropped connection... really odd. I was told when I was connected up that static or dynamic ip address were up to the installer. I was offered the choice and I asked for static and got it. From what I understand... had I had the technology setup... I could have easily gone dhcp. > I maintain a domain name on register.com and can access > my box and get mail with my domain name, provided I can associate my > domain name with an ip number on register.com's server. I still would > like to do that but it would be difficult if the ip number changed a > lot. I never turn my machine off. The question is, if you don't turn > off your machine, can they change the ip number? > Absolutely. That's the beauty behind dhcp... However, for you and I it's another level of complexity that really, really isn't needed. -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux 10:50pm up 5 days, 47 min, 4 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: DNS server won't start in eD2.4
On Sun, Dec 30, 2001 at 08:29:49AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On December 29, Kevin O'Gorman enlightened our ignorance thusly: > > On Sat, Dec 29, 2001 at 08:23:30PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > On December 29, Kevin O'Gorman enlightened our ignorance thusly: > > > > This is very odd. > > > > > > > > My 'named' server won't start from SysV. > > > > > > > > It won't start from a root shell if I try > > > > # cd /etc/rc.d/rc3.d > > > > # ./S10named start > > > > > > > > However, it will start if I do it by sourcing the file: > > > > # . ./S10named start > > > > > > You know, of course, that S10named is just a symlink to > > > /etc/rc.d/init.d/named? What happens if you invoke this script > > > directly? You can also edit it, add "set -x" at the top for debugging > > > output, and then evaluate the differences between the two invocations > > > to see what's going wrong? > > > > > > Kurt > > > > I did that, and it's no where near as helpful as one would hope. For > > one thing, the differences first show up during the sourcing of > > /etc/rc.d/init.d/functions, which is (1) common to pretty much all > > of the SysV files, and (b) not causing problems for any of the others. > > Nothing terribly useful in here. What's in /var/log/messages? I'm > sure that somehow you've fubared the configuration. I seem to recall > an issue with OL 2.4 that the SysV script did not properly handle > /var/run/named.pid, which led to all sorts of interesting problems > starting and stopping BIND, particularly if you mixed usage of the > SysV scripts and direct invocation of the BIND. > > Kurt Nothing at all is in /var/log/messages, at least as refers to named. Once I get it started, it occasionally logs things, but there's nothing about the failure to start. If it matters, I think I set it up with webmin. ++ kevin -- Kevin O'Gorman (805) 650-6274 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Permanent e-mail forwarder: mailto:Kevin.O'[EMAIL PROTECTED] At school: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.cs.ucsb.edu/~kogorman/index.html Web: http://kosmanor.com/~kevin/index.html "Life is short; eat dessert first!" ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Switching to DHCPDC on Comcast
On January 3, 2002 07:33 pm, Joel Hammer wrote: > I don't have dhcpdc on my caldera 2.4 box, with a 2.2 kernel patched > for win4lin. So, questions: Are you sure you're not actually looking for a command called dhcpcd as opposed to dhcpdc? IIRC, Caldera ships with that, but then again its been a while since I've used their products. David Aikema ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: ELX iso's...
On Thu, 3 Jan 2002 20:03:33 -0700 Collins Richey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 3 Jan 2002 19:04:06 -0500 Jerry McBride <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > I've just ftp'ed the elx iso's for a cd customer of mine and I was > > wondering if anyone else may be interested in a copy? Seems to be spread > > across two cd images, got them both. > > > > Let me know asap, as I'm in the middle of burning stuff for tomorrow's > > post office visit... :') > > > > How do you still have a working [EMAIL PROTECTED] address? I thought all those > were burned forever. > We're good until February 28... then it turns into [EMAIL PROTECTED] If they manage the broadband as well as the cable tv programming... I'll be looking for a dsl connection. :') ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux 10:50pm up 5 days, 47 min, 4 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: opinions on iptables scripts?
David A. Bandel babbled on about: > I have firewalls in a number of places (companies, organizations, > individuals). Each one custom rules. Some things (almost) never change, > and those are the basis for the scripts I provided LJ with my article. My > recommendation: decide exactly what you want to do and implement those > rules. Don't use a canned script. If you don't know what you want, > perhaps you shouldn't try (alone), but get someone knowledgeable to help. exactly. I know what I want open and to whom. that I can probably implement. I just wanted to see what this list thought was decent starting points to examine how others are doing the iptables things. > > For those who enjoyed my basic Netfilter article, I'll have another (more > advanced) article RSN. what's the URL of the previous article? also, post the new URL when it goes online please. thanks! -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: Linux StepByStep - http://linux.nf /* After several hours of tedious analysis, the following hash * function won. Do not mess with it... -DaveM */ 2.2.16 /usr/src/linux/fs/buffer.c ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: IT jobs Florida
> I knew that I was in bad shape when Boone's Farm tasted good. > > Bill Boone's Farm, Night Train, Mad Dog, four-way hits of Mr. Natural, Goofy blotter. They were necessary evils to deal with that Commodore 64 and its 13" B&W TV monitor and cassette tape drive. Randy ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Switching to DHCPDC on Comcast
Well, I have enjoyed a static ip number on my cable modem for a year or so from @HOME. But, they are dead, so I seem be forced to get a dynamic ip number. I don't have dhcpdc on my caldera 2.4 box, with a 2.2 kernel patched for win4lin. So, questions: 1. Which dhcpdc is best to use. I will likely use this same box as a dhcpd server for my home network, as well. 2. Does anyone know how long I will likely be keeping each assigned dynamic number? I maintain a domain name on register.com and can access my box and get mail with my domain name, provided I can associate my domain name with an ip number on register.com's server. I still would like to do that but it would be difficult if the ip number changed a lot. I never turn my machine off. The question is, if you don't turn off your machine, can they change the ip number? Thanks, Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: opinions on iptables scripts?
On Thu, 3 Jan 2002 18:06:52 -0500 Douglas J Hunley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Looking at Freshmeat, I see like 50 different firewall scripts > (iptables based). What are you guys using? > rc.firewall? > shorewall? > mon mothma? > others? I'm using 'narc' available here: http://www.knowplace.org/dl/narc-0.5.1.tgz I found it at freshmeat.net -- Myles Green Calgary AB Canada Alberta Linux Step by Step Mirror: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/mylesg/ -- There are two major products that come out of Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: ELX iso's...
On Thu, 3 Jan 2002 19:04:06 -0500 Jerry McBride <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I've just ftp'ed the elx iso's for a cd customer of mine and I was > wondering if anyone else may be interested in a copy? Seems to be spread > across two cd images, got them both. > > Let me know asap, as I'm in the middle of burning stuff for tomorrow's > post office visit... :') > How do you still have a working [EMAIL PROTECTED] address? I thought all those were burned forever. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area WWTLRD? - ELX-1 system k2.4.17+xfce+sylpheed ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Internet Server Sanctions
On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 07:23:10PM +, Ronnie Gauthier wrote: >Not quite right. If I set up IBM.com in my dns anyone on my network would go >where my records point to and nothing can supercede them except a lawsuit. >Not internic, your ISP, IBM or anyone. > There are actually legitmate reasons one might do something like this. I had a case last week when one of my friend's DSL connection got hosed, and their upstream took several days to fix it, giving them a fixed IP dialup in the interim. We're the primary backup MX forwarder for their domain, but not a secondary DNS server. I just set up authoritative DNS for them here using djbdns (lot's easier and more secure than bind) with a primary MX record pointing to their dynamic dialup, and this got their mail flowing in the interim. Bill -- INTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC UUCP: camco!bill PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX:(206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 URL: http://www.celestial.com/ It's very glamorous to raise millions of dollars, until it's time for the venture capitalist to suck your eyeballs out. -- Peter Kennedy, chairman of Kraft & Kennedy. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: IT jobs Florida
On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 07:40:56PM -0500, Kurt Wall wrote: >On January 03, Randy enlightened our ignorance thusly: > >[...] > >> The 70's were hell on brain cells, I think, it's all just a blur. The >> normal conversation went something like what are these I don't know >> just take a couple:). > >I think I remember that... I certainly recall taking more than just >two of anything that came by. If one was good, then two was better, >and twenty was perfect. ;-) That any brain cells survived is fscking >amazing. I knew that I was in bad shape when Boone's Farm tasted good. Bill -- INTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC UUCP: camco!bill PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX:(206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 URL: http://www.celestial.com/ Basic Definitions of Science: If it's green or wiggles, it's biology. If it stinks, it's chemistry. If it doesn't work, it's physics. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
More SxS Steps for 3-Jan-02
Proper French for all front page frames (patrick kapturkiewicz) VIDEO -> AVI + DIVX -> Mplayer (Net Llama!) VIDEO -> AVI + DIVX -> Avifile (moved (Net Llama!) = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Hi there
On Thursday 03 January 2002 05:39 pm,Bill Parker wrote: > Thought I would check this list out Why?? We're just a bunch of bums that complain about native californian drivers. -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd rather be sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Hi there
--- Bill Parker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thought I would check this list out Howdy = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: opinions on iptables scripts?
On Thursday 03 January 2002 19:38 pm, Douglas J Hunley wrote: > Joel Hammer babbled on about: > > I would STRONGLY urge you not to use any script for your security. > > Scripts are basically black boxes. You can't rely on a black box. You > > have to know about security. > > I know. But they are usually good starting points. > > I already know ipchains inside and out. My ipchains script is even up on > the SxS. But I wanted something to look at for iptables. Helps me figure it > out.. When I was running eD2.4, I knew how ipchains worked although I still used a script to implement them. But I can tell you I spent a LOT of time dinking with the rules to try to get ipchains to let me get out for vnc, irc, and many other weird protocol things and it wasn't a happy situation. Iptables doesn't have these problems. It will almost anything get OUT, and remembers that a response is due back IN. But won't allow (if you set it that way) strange things to get in, possibly through the holes you made to let something out. It's a whole lot better situation in my view. My $.02. -- ++ + Bruce S. Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bellaire, MI 01/03/02 20:37 + ++ "Books are good enough in their own way, but they are a mighty bloodless substitute for life." - Robert Louis Stevenson ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: opinions on iptables scripts?
On Thu, 3 Jan 2002 19:58:20 -0500 Joel Hammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spewed into the bitstream: > I still use them, so, they're not entirely dead. You can configure tcpd > wrappers with your firewall. Since you can spawn scripts with tcpd > wrappers when certain events occur, you can have very tight control over > security. tcp wrappers is good, but limited -- mostly by what it can watch (TCP, but not UDP) connections. iptables is maturing rapidly and quite well. Some things you'll find in the `make patch-o-matic` target include: port scan detection, NETLINK target support, strings support (yes, search for strings inside packets -- preferably, you'll only use this with connection tracking, which reassembles packets first), much more. > > I think that changing technologies/software everytime you > want a new feature is overkill. I believe it was the Bard who penned: I believe it's great we have choices. > > "Do not dull thy palm with the entertainment of each new hatch'd, > unfledg'd courage." > > Joel > > > Yes but ipchains is a dead issue. > ___ > Linux-users mailing list > Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Ciao, David A. Bandel -- Focus on the dream, not the competition. -- Nemesis Racing Team motto Internet (H323) phone: 206.28.187.30 ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: IT jobs Florida
On Thu, 3 Jan 2002 17:28:46 -0800 (PST) Net Llama <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribbled in ultimate sarcasm: > --- Michael Scottaline <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > You mean there were "survivors" <|:-) > > I survived the 70s just fine, at age 5. === You're a riot, Lonni..., a regular riot Mike -- "Modern art is what happens when painters stop looking at girls and persuade themselves that they have a better idea." -- John Ciardi ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: exchange 5.5
On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 01:46:13PM -0500, Douglas J Hunley wrote: >Tim Wunder babbled on about: >> You mean Groupware? Funny, I'm starting to look into this myself. Not as >> a replacement for Exchange, but as a new installation. >> I've found some that look interesting, but haven't tried any yet: > >does IMP fall in there anywhere? it's part of Horde (www.horde.org I think) IMP is a web mail product allowing one to set up a web interface to one or more servers running IMAP. It has several nice features including the ability to access multiple servers, and to send mail using different domain names depending on the server selected (the same server may be used with different domain names). We're running a pretty old version (at least a year) on php3 so I can't say if the current version is any better. Horde also has a ``project management'' web interface which we've tried, but found pretty lame. I really want to find a real project management package for Linux that handles resource levelling, allocation of fixed assets, etc. We used TimeLine for Windows for several years, but (a) it doesn't seem to be available now, and (b) I really don't want to run Windows applications Our only Windows box ceased to boot over a month ago, and I haven't had any serious need for any Windows application (it still runs RedHat 7.1 just fine). I'm waiting for my brother to get back from Maui to deal with the Windows side of it. Bill -- INTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC UUCP: camco!bill PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX:(206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 URL: http://www.celestial.com/ ``Freedom from prices is freedom from responsibility. You can simply pass laws, using the magic wand of government to satisfy your own desires at unspecified costs to be paid by others.'' -- Thomas Sowell Aug 2000 ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Hi there
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Re: opinions on iptables scripts?
On Thu, 3 Jan 2002 18:06:52 -0500 Douglas J Hunley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spewed into the bitstream: > Looking at Freshmeat, I see like 50 different firewall scripts (iptables > based). What are you guys using? > rc.firewall? > shorewall? > mon mothma? > others? > I have firewalls in a number of places (companies, organizations, individuals). Each one custom rules. Some things (almost) never change, and those are the basis for the scripts I provided LJ with my article. My recommendation: decide exactly what you want to do and implement those rules. Don't use a canned script. If you don't know what you want, perhaps you shouldn't try (alone), but get someone knowledgeable to help. For those who enjoyed my basic Netfilter article, I'll have another (more advanced) article RSN. Ciao, David A. Bandel -- Focus on the dream, not the competition. -- Nemesis Racing Team motto Internet (H323) phone: 206.28.187.30 ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: IT jobs Florida
--- Michael Scottaline <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 3 Jan 2002 19:40:56 -0500 > Kurt Wall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribbled in frustration: > > > That any brain cells survived is fscking > > amazing. > > You mean there were "survivors" <|:-) I survived the 70s just fine, at age 5. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Internet Server Sanctions
Not quite right. If I set up IBM.com in my dns anyone on my network would go where my records point to and nothing can supercede them except a lawsuit. Not internic, your ISP, IBM or anyone. On Friday 04 January 2002 01:07, Keith Antoine wrote: > On Friday 04 January 2002 07:46 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] observed: > > Agreed. However, the issue becomes difficult when both the original ISP > > and the new ISP maintain DNS records for a domain. While the owner of > > the NIC handle certainly has the power and the right to delegate the > > domain to anyone she chooses, if the old ISP does not delete the DNS > > records for that domain, competing DNS records will exist if or until > > the records at the new ISP (which would be the authoritative ones) > > supercede the records at the old one. > > > > Kurt > > Again stated better than I could. But the verdict is that he is not locked > in so much as he thinks he is. If he does redelagate the domain its only a > matter of time before the 'old' dns becomes defunked. -- Ronnie == Each days terror almost a form of boredom madmen at the wheel and stepping on the gas and the brakes no good and each day one, sometimes two, morning glories faultless, blue, blue sometimes flecked with magenta each lit from within with the first sunlight -- Denise Levertov -- ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: ssh plus PATH
On Friday 04 January 2002 09:03 am, David Aikema observed: > On January 3, 2002 12:38 pm, Keith Antoine wrote: > > I have two small problems that I need answers to. > > > > #1. I now at last with my bandwidth supplier at last got him to put on > > ssh. Thats great, but what do I need to ftp using ssh, does he need to do > > anything else other than having sshd running ? > > Won't using sftp do the trick? I suppose not too many gui apps support it > yet but it works quite nicely from the console. > > David Aikema Thanks David! -- Keith Antoine aka 'skippy' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
raise your right hand
http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=01012002-053506-3828r It's kinda fun fantasizing about using one of these during political campaigns and head-of-state press briefings... R ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Internet Server Sanctions
On Friday 04 January 2002 07:46 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] observed: > Agreed. However, the issue becomes difficult when both the original ISP > and the new ISP maintain DNS records for a domain. While the owner of > the NIC handle certainly has the power and the right to delegate the > domain to anyone she chooses, if the old ISP does not delete the DNS > records for that domain, competing DNS records will exist if or until > the records at the new ISP (which would be the authoritative ones) > supercede the records at the old one. > > Kurt Again stated better than I could. But the verdict is that he is not locked in so much as he thinks he is. If he does redelagate the domain its only a matter of time before the 'old' dns becomes defunked. -- Keith Antoine aka 'skippy' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: ssh plus PATH
On Friday 04 January 2002 07:41 am, Net Llama observed: > --- Keith Antoine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have two small problems that I need answers to. > > > > #1. I now at last with my bandwidth supplier at last got him to put on > > ssh. > > Thats great, but what do I need to ftp using ssh, does he need to do > > anything > > else other than having sshd running ? > > I've not used sftp at all, so i'll leave it to others to describe that. > However, you do *not* need to use (s)ftp to xfer files around. scp > (secure copy) will do the job quite nicely. And yes, as long as sshd is > running on the server side, that's all you need for either sftp or scp. Wunnerful ! I had my suspicions and you have confirmed that its easy and not difficult. -- Keith Antoine aka 'skippy' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: opinions on iptables scripts?
I still use them, so, they're not entirely dead. You can configure tcpd wrappers with your firewall. Since you can spawn scripts with tcpd wrappers when certain events occur, you can have very tight control over security. I think that changing technologies/software everytime you want a new feature is overkill. I believe it was the Bard who penned: "Do not dull thy palm with the entertainment of each new hatch'd, unfledg'd courage." Joel > > Yes but ipchains is a dead issue. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: IT jobs Florida
On Thu, 3 Jan 2002 19:40:56 -0500 Kurt Wall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribbled in frustration: > That any brain cells survived is fscking > amazing. You mean there were "survivors" <|:-) Mike -- "It is God's job to forgive bin Laden. It is our job to set up the meeting." --U.S. Marine Corp. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re:PATH
On Friday 04 January 2002 07:39 am, Net Llama observed: > The basic formatting (whether in .bashrc, .bash_profile, .profile, or > just on the command line) is: > export PATH=$PATH;/path/to/more/paths;/another/one Thats fine, thanks; but I seem to remember something else too. That if I used to edit the paths in "somewhere' it did not remember it on reboot. I had to do it differently for it to be permenant. So I am guessing the last statement is the one to use?? Whilst I am here, something else also, in Mandrake 8.1 you can setup easily through 'control center' a shared access to the internet. However it also is not permenant insofar as on reboot I have to go and do a 'reconfigure'. Does anyone know of a workround for this, please. -- Keith Antoine aka 'skippy' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: IT jobs Florida
On Thu, 3 Jan 2002 19:20:34 -0500 Randy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribbled in frustration: > The 70's were hell on brain cells, I think, it's all just a blur. The > normal conversation went something like what are these I don't know > just take a couple:). > Randy LOL!!! No comment... Mike -- "It is God's job to forgive bin Laden. It is our job to set up the meeting." --U.S. Marine Corp. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: IT jobs Florida
On January 03, Randy enlightened our ignorance thusly: [...] > The 70's were hell on brain cells, I think, it's all just a blur. The > normal conversation went something like what are these I don't know > just take a couple:). I think I remember that... I certainly recall taking more than just two of anything that came by. If one was good, then two was better, and twenty was perfect. ;-) That any brain cells survived is fscking amazing. Kurt -- Better living through chemistry. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: opinions on iptables scripts?
Joel Hammer babbled on about:
> I would STRONGLY urge you not to use any script for your security.
> Scripts are basically black boxes. You can't rely on a black box. You have
> to know about security.
I know. But they are usually good starting points.
I already know ipchains inside and out. My ipchains script is even up on the
SxS. But I wanted something to look at for iptables. Helps me figure it out..
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Re: ssh plus PATH
On Friday 04 January 2002 07:28 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] observed: > You would use scp rather than ftp. Other than permitting you access > using ssh, you should be in good shapel. Thought it would be something like this. TA! > > #2. Can someone tell me how one adds a PATH statement. Is there something > > on SxS, that I missed, know its been said before but I have no hardcopy. > > I also remember there is a prescribed command line with PATH in caps and > > also export PATH somewhere. > > At the command line (for Bash and other Bourne shell derivatives): > > $ export PATH=$PATH:/some/new/path/element again thanks, thats what I needed. > We can discuss this off line. As you know, I make a living > programming Linux... > > Kurt Ok this one will be offline after this and I will need to setup a list daemon so as we can stay private in a list. Early next week i'll contact you. -- Keith Antoine aka 'skippy' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: ssh plus PATH
On Friday 04 January 2002 06:54 am, scott curtis observed: > Keith Antoine wrote: > > #2. Can someone tell me how one adds a PATH statement. Is there something > > on SxS, that I missed, know its been said before but I have no hardcopy. > > I also remember there is a prescribed command line with PATH in caps and > > also export PATH somewhere. > > As far as the path goes, if you would like to put something in the path of > the user so that they can access it every time that they login, just edit > the .bash_profile (I believe it is this file, provided that you are using > bash for your shell) file in that user's directory. That is probably the > easiest way of adding stuff to the path, just be sure to put in the ':' > between different paths. > > -Scott No thats not wahat I want, sorry. Waht i need is the path ststement used when trying to install something, tarball, and the libs are not where the prog expects em to be ! -- Keith Antoine aka 'skippy' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: IT jobs Florida
> Check out the mailing list at www.flux.org for S. Florida. There are > a lot of good techie people on it, and not being one myself, I can > not answer intelligently (also grew up in the 70's and not many brain > cells still alive) Or, if you wish, I can ask a few folks at the next > meeting. The 70's were hell on brain cells, I think, it's all just a blur. The normal conversation went something like what are these I don't know just take a couple:). Randy ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
scp vs sftp was Re: ssh plus PATH
On Fri, 4 Jan 2002 11:32, Ian wrote: > But as the Llama pointed out, scp is pretty easy too. except and of course it is single target only meaning you can copy *.thing to/from a specific folder but not a series of different things. This makes it tedious when repetetively typing in the secure password. sftp works much as you would expect any login-style ftp to work. It's one drawback (from my point of view) is that it cannot do command completion, thus 'put' something_starting_with abcd (tab) doesn't work. But other than that, it's standard ftp fare. -- http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: ssh plus PATH
David Aikema wrote: > > On January 3, 2002 12:38 pm, Keith Antoine wrote: > > I have two small problems that I need answers to. > > > > #1. I now at last with my bandwidth supplier at last got him to put on ssh. > > Thats great, but what do I need to ftp using ssh, does he need to do > > anything else other than having sshd running ? > > Won't using sftp do the trick? I suppose not too many gui apps support it > yet but it works quite nicely from the console. Keith, Knowing your penchant for all things GUI and pointy clicky, I'd have to agree that sftp may be the way to go for you in the beginning, if you can maneuver in CLI ftp you should be OK. But as the Llama pointed out, scp is pretty easy too. 'scp my_new_file.html [EMAIL PROTECTED]:directory_to_copy_to' -- Linux SxS [http://sxs.webhop.net/] ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
ELX iso's...
I've just ftp'ed the elx iso's for a cd customer of mine and I was wondering if anyone else may be interested in a copy? Seems to be spread across two cd images, got them both. Let me know asap, as I'm in the middle of burning stuff for tomorrow's post office visit... :') Cheers all. -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux 6:55pm up 4 days, 20:52, 4 users, load average: 0.13, 0.08, 0.01 ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: opinions on iptables scripts?
On Thursday 03 January 2002 18:28 pm, Joel Hammer wrote: > I would STRONGLY urge you not to use any script for your security. > Scripts are basically black boxes. You can't rely on a black box. You have > to know about security. > I would learn to set up some ipchains rules, or get a set of rules from > somewhere, and then edit them with vi or some simple editor which won't try > to mess them up to much with inserting line feeds and such. > The commands: > ipchains-save > myrules > vi myrules > ipchains -F > cat myrules | ipchains-restore -f > are all that you need to do. > (Oh yes. You can't do this on a telnet connection. ipchains -F closes down > my firewall since I have all defaults as deny.) > This method is all I have used for serveral years to keep my firewall > working just fine. Yes but ipchains is a dead issue. -- ++ + Bruce S. Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bellaire, MI 01/03/02 18:41 + ++ "A computer, to print out a fact, Will divide, multiply, and subtract. But this output can be No more than debris, If the input was short of exact." -- Gigo ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: opinions on iptables scripts?
On Thursday 03 January 2002 18:06 pm, Douglas J Hunley wrote: > Looking at Freshmeat, I see like 50 different firewall scripts (iptables > based). What are you guys using? > rc.firewall? > shorewall? > mon mothma? > others? > > thanks! SuSE's firewall2 -- ++ + Bruce S. Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bellaire, MI 01/03/02 18:40 + ++ "Snow Day -- stay home." ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: IT jobs Florida
On Thursday January 03 2002 02:42 pm, Randy wrote: > On Thursday 03 January 2002 10:21 am, you wrote: > > Randy wrote: > > > Any Floridians on the list? What does the IT sector look like down > > > there? This is my last northern winter. Check out the mailing list at www.flux.org for S. Florida. There are a lot of good techie people on it, and not being one myself, I can not answer intelligently (also grew up in the 70's and not many brain cells still alive) Or, if you wish, I can ask a few folks at the next meeting. > Is Florida still in a drought? Not in S. Florida! But it is going to get real cold here tonight. Maybe in the upper 30's F. (A record!) Harry G ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: christmas and its HOT!
--- Tony Alfrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thursday 03 January 2002 07:23 am,Net Llama wrote: > > --- Tony Alfrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > RPI?? Seemed like a pretty good school. > > > > At one time it was. > > My visit there was back in '81 or so. Ahh..that was nearly 15 years before i got there :) = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: opinions on iptables scripts?
I would STRONGLY urge you not to use any script for your security. Scripts are basically black boxes. You can't rely on a black box. You have to know about security. I would learn to set up some ipchains rules, or get a set of rules from somewhere, and then edit them with vi or some simple editor which won't try to mess them up to much with inserting line feeds and such. The commands: ipchains-save > myrules vi myrules ipchains -F cat myrules | ipchains-restore -f are all that you need to do. (Oh yes. You can't do this on a telnet connection. ipchains -F closes down my firewall since I have all defaults as deny.) This method is all I have used for serveral years to keep my firewall working just fine. > Looking at Freshmeat, I see like 50 different firewall scripts (iptables > based). What are you guys using? > rc.firewall? > shorewall? > mon mothma? > others? > > thanks! > -- > Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 > Admin: Linux StepByStep - http://linux.nf > > What am I?... Flypaper for freaks! > ___ > Linux-users mailing list > Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: christmas and its HOT!
On Thursday 03 January 2002 07:23 am,Net Llama wrote: > --- Tony Alfrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > RPI?? Seemed like a pretty good school. > > At one time it was. My visit there was back in '81 or so. --- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd rather be sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: opinions on iptables scripts?
On January 03, Douglas J Hunley enlightened our ignorance thusly: > Looking at Freshmeat, I see like 50 different firewall scripts (iptables > based). What are you guys using? > rc.firewall? > shorewall? > mon mothma? > others? > > thanks! Personally, I prefer the ones used in the iptables-HOWTO and/or the ones David Bandel used in his article in Linux Journal sometime back. Kurt -- Your nature demands love and your happiness depends on it. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
opinions on iptables scripts?
Looking at Freshmeat, I see like 50 different firewall scripts (iptables based). What are you guys using? rc.firewall? shorewall? mon mothma? others? thanks! -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: Linux StepByStep - http://linux.nf What am I?... Flypaper for freaks! ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: ssh plus PATH
On January 3, 2002 12:38 pm, Keith Antoine wrote: > I have two small problems that I need answers to. > > #1. I now at last with my bandwidth supplier at last got him to put on ssh. > Thats great, but what do I need to ftp using ssh, does he need to do > anything else other than having sshd running ? Won't using sftp do the trick? I suppose not too many gui apps support it yet but it works quite nicely from the console. David Aikema ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Internet Server Sanctions
On January 03, Bruce Marshall enlightened our ignorance thusly: [clip] > I don't think (or am not aware) that having two ISP's have DNS entries would > really be a problem. > > I moved my domain from one ISP to another and the previous ISP kept the DNS > entry for well over a year. It was never a problem unless I happened to be > using that ISP (which was rare) and I wanted to 'talk' to my domain at the > new ISP. Obviously there will be a conflict there... but since I was aware > of the problem, I didn't let it be an issue. > > As far as the 'outside' world was ever concerned, I had moved my DNS entry > the minute that the root servers had been updated to point to the new ISP. Okay. I stand corrected. K -- Try to value useful qualities in one who loves you. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Internet Server Sanctions
On Thursday 03 January 2002 16:46 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Agreed. However, the issue becomes difficult when both the original ISP > and the new ISP maintain DNS records for a domain. While the owner of > the NIC handle certainly has the power and the right to delegate the > domain to anyone she chooses, if the old ISP does not delete the DNS > records for that domain, competing DNS records will exist if or until > the records at the new ISP (which would be the authoritative ones) > supercede the records at the old one. I don't think (or am not aware) that having two ISP's have DNS entries would really be a problem. I moved my domain from one ISP to another and the previous ISP kept the DNS entry for well over a year. It was never a problem unless I happened to be using that ISP (which was rare) and I wanted to 'talk' to my domain at the new ISP. Obviously there will be a conflict there... but since I was aware of the problem, I didn't let it be an issue. As far as the 'outside' world was ever concerned, I had moved my DNS entry the minute that the root servers had been updated to point to the new ISP. -- ++ + Bruce S. Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bellaire, MI 01/03/02 16:59 + ++ "OLE: Obsolete Legacy Environment." ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: patches/updates
On January 03, Schmeits, Roger enlightened our ignorance thusly: > How does one handle packages updates on Linux servers? I have noticed on > Redhat you pay a subscribition fee whereas Caldera it is a free service. > Beginning relatively green yet I find myself uncomfortable/ignorant on > applying patches/updates to Linux distros. How does one handle this > situation in a production environment without breaking other programs? For a single system, you can use Red Hat's service free as long as you register is using rhn_register. However, in many cases, simply monitoring the appropriate mailing lists for notifications of package updates is sufficient. In a proper production environment, moreover, you would have a test bed system that mirrors your production system. When an update or patch is released, you apply the update to the test system, satisfy yourself it doesn't break other programs (which it shouldn't), and *then* apply said update to the production box. Kurt -- You will have a long and unpleasant discussion with your supervisor. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Internet Server Sanctions
On January 04, Keith Antoine enlightened our ignorance thusly: > On Friday 04 January 2002 12:23 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] observed: > > On January 03, Declan Moriarty enlightened our ignorance thusly: > > > I got an Irish Government Grant (payout) to get an Internet site. The > > > site put up was ABSOLUTE junk, and the company involved > > > http://www.getfreeinternet.co.uk will not answer the phone, answer > > > e-mail, amend the site, or do anything they said they would. > > > > > > At this stage I would like my domain back, and to get rid of them > > > altogether, while maybe making things difficult for them in passing. > > > They, however only get paid for the site, and have ignored requests to > > > remove it. Where do I go from here? > > > > My recommendation would be to start the process to move your domain > > elsewhere -- perhaps when the new domain host requests the transfer, > > they will have better success. If not, they may have more clout to > > compel the transfer. > > > > Kurt > > Kurt, Declan, > > My memory is not real good now-a-days; however I am sure that the transfer of > domains has nothing to do with the ISP as much as it has on the owner of that > doamin name, and the posessor of the nic handle. If you posess the nic handle > and the domain all that has to be done; I am in the throws of transferring my > ISP operation from one ISP and setting up another. All I have to do is go to > ITMelbourne and redelugate the domain to the new site and servers. These have > to be online and running at the time. So long as there are no outstanding > monies the ISP has no say in the matter. Agreed. However, the issue becomes difficult when both the original ISP and the new ISP maintain DNS records for a domain. While the owner of the NIC handle certainly has the power and the right to delegate the domain to anyone she chooses, if the old ISP does not delete the DNS records for that domain, competing DNS records will exist if or until the records at the new ISP (which would be the authoritative ones) supercede the records at the old one. Kurt -- You too can wear a nose mitten. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: ssh plus PATH
--- Keith Antoine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have two small problems that I need answers to. > > #1. I now at last with my bandwidth supplier at last got him to put on > ssh. > Thats great, but what do I need to ftp using ssh, does he need to do > anything > else other than having sshd running ? I've not used sftp at all, so i'll leave it to others to describe that. However, you do *not* need to use (s)ftp to xfer files around. scp (secure copy) will do the job quite nicely. And yes, as long as sshd is running on the server side, that's all you need for either sftp or scp. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: ssh plus PATH
--- scott curtis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Keith Antoine wrote: > > #2. Can someone tell me how one adds a PATH statement. Is there > something on > > SxS, that I missed, know its been said before but I have no > hardcopy. I also > > remember there is a prescribed command line with PATH in caps and > also export > > PATH somewhere. > > As far as the path goes, if you would like to put something in the > path of the > user so that they can access it every time that they login, just edit > the > .bash_profile (I believe it is this file, provided that you are using > bash for > your shell) file in that user's directory. That is probably the > easiest way of > adding stuff to the path, just be sure to put in the ':' between > different > paths. The basic formatting (whether in .bashrc, .bash_profile, .profile, or just on the command line) is: export PATH=$PATH;/path/to/more/paths;/another/one = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
RE: exchange 5.5
I found this ..I dont know it it has any potential. http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Qmail-VMailMgr-Courier-imap-HOWTO.html -Original Message- From: Tim Wunder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 1:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: exchange 5.5 Schmeits, Roger wrote: > What is similar in the Linux world for a replacement of Exchange 5.5? Group > scheduling, email, resources planning (i.e. room scheduling). > > Oh yeah... You may find this link useful: http://nexist.sourceforge.net/groupware.html Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: ssh plus PATH
On January 04, Keith Antoine enlightened our ignorance thusly: > I have two small problems that I need answers to. > > #1. I now at last with my bandwidth supplier at last got him to put on ssh. > Thats great, but what do I need to ftp using ssh, does he need to do anything > else other than having sshd running ? You would use scp rather than ftp. Other than permitting you access using ssh, you should be in good shapel. > #2. Can someone tell me how one adds a PATH statement. Is there something on > SxS, that I missed, know its been said before but I have no hardcopy. I also > remember there is a prescribed command line with PATH in caps and also export > PATH somewhere. At the command line (for Bash and other Bourne shell derivatives): $ export PATH=$PATH:/some/new/path/element > I also am involved with a charitable organisation that does 'aged person > monitoring' on NT4 with proprietory phoneline answerring box plus a server > with a database and workststions. > > I need to have some people who are programming literate in linux. It is > envisaged that we can replace the servers, already done, and software with > what is already in existance. It needs tying together. There will be monetary > returns for all involved, plus the ability to market what eventually > transpires. > > What I am after at this stage is expressions of interest only. I will then > shift any other discussions to some other channel. We can discuss this off line. As you know, I make a living programming Linux... Kurt -- You will be married within a year, and divorced within two. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: ssh plus PATH
Keith Antoine wrote: > #2. Can someone tell me how one adds a PATH statement. Is there something on > SxS, that I missed, know its been said before but I have no hardcopy. I also > remember there is a prescribed command line with PATH in caps and also export > PATH somewhere. As far as the path goes, if you would like to put something in the path of the user so that they can access it every time that they login, just edit the .bash_profile (I believe it is this file, provided that you are using bash for your shell) file in that user's directory. That is probably the easiest way of adding stuff to the path, just be sure to put in the ':' between different paths. -Scott _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
ssh plus PATH
I have two small problems that I need answers to. #1. I now at last with my bandwidth supplier at last got him to put on ssh. Thats great, but what do I need to ftp using ssh, does he need to do anything else other than having sshd running ? #2. Can someone tell me how one adds a PATH statement. Is there something on SxS, that I missed, know its been said before but I have no hardcopy. I also remember there is a prescribed command line with PATH in caps and also export PATH somewhere. I also am involved with a charitable organisation that does 'aged person monitoring' on NT4 with proprietory phoneline answerring box plus a server with a database and workststions. I need to have some people who are programming literate in linux. It is envisaged that we can replace the servers, already done, and software with what is already in existance. It needs tying together. There will be monetary returns for all involved, plus the ability to market what eventually transpires. What I am after at this stage is expressions of interest only. I will then shift any other discussions to some other channel. -- Keith Antoine aka 'skippy' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Internet Server Sanctions
On Friday 04 January 2002 12:23 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] observed: > On January 03, Declan Moriarty enlightened our ignorance thusly: > > I got an Irish Government Grant (payout) to get an Internet site. The > > site put up was ABSOLUTE junk, and the company involved > > http://www.getfreeinternet.co.uk will not answer the phone, answer > > e-mail, amend the site, or do anything they said they would. > > > > At this stage I would like my domain back, and to get rid of them > > altogether, while maybe making things difficult for them in passing. > > They, however only get paid for the site, and have ignored requests to > > remove it. Where do I go from here? > > My recommendation would be to start the process to move your domain > elsewhere -- perhaps when the new domain host requests the transfer, > they will have better success. If not, they may have more clout to > compel the transfer. > > Kurt Kurt, Declan, My memory is not real good now-a-days; however I am sure that the transfer of domains has nothing to do with the ISP as much as it has on the owner of that doamin name, and the posessor of the nic handle. If you posess the nic handle and the domain all that has to be done; I am in the throws of transferring my ISP operation from one ISP and setting up another. All I have to do is go to ITMelbourne and redelugate the domain to the new site and servers. These have to be online and running at the time. So long as there are no outstanding monies the ISP has no say in the matter. Of course things could differ elsewhere. -- Keith Antoine aka 'skippy' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: exchange 5.5
Schmeits, Roger wrote: > What is similar in the Linux world for a replacement of Exchange 5.5? Group > scheduling, email, resources planning (i.e. room scheduling). > > Oh yeah... You may find this link useful: http://nexist.sourceforge.net/groupware.html Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: IT jobs Florida
On Thursday 03 January 2002 10:21 am, you wrote: > Randy wrote: > > Any Floridians on the list? What does the IT sector look like down > > there? This is my last northern winter. > > Thanks, > > Randy Donohoe > > > >Every kid out of high school bills him/herself as a computer whiz > > kid and the state's college's and universities turn out system > > science types by the dump truck full. Although,there is a defense > > industry settled in around Orlando As for weather, in my part of > > the state (Panhandle) the only way you can tell summer from winter > > is the rain is cold in the winter and warm in the summer. > > Lee Is Florida still in a drought? Randy Donohoe ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: exchange 5.5
"Schmeits, Roger" wrote: > > What is similar in the Linux world for a replacement of Exchange 5.5? Group > scheduling, email, resources planning (i.e. room scheduling). I am currently looking into TWIG [http://twig.screwdriver.net/about.php3] most of what you are looking for. It runs in conjunction with an IMAP server to provide mail capabilities. I have only just scratched the surface of it though. I am still trying to get Cyrus IMAP up and running on my system...then I'll look into TWIG or something similar. Hey! Anyone out there have cyrus configured...now or in the past? -- Linux SxS [http://sxs.webhop.net] ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: exchange 5.5
Tim Wunder babbled on about:
> You mean Groupware? Funny, I'm starting to look into this myself. Not as
> a replacement for Exchange, but as a new installation.
> I've found some that look interesting, but haven't tried any yet:
does IMP fall in there anywhere? it's part of Horde (www.horde.org I think)
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Re: patches/updates
On Fri, 4 Jan 2002 04:57, Schmeits, Roger wrote: > How does one handle packages updates on Linux servers? I have noticed on > Redhat you pay a subscribition fee whereas Caldera it is a free service. this is not true of a *single* installation (but I note you use the word serverS) the up2date package of Redhat 7.1/7.2 is straight out excellent, It works, and it's a no-brainer 'automatic' update and install. I run it once / week and just let it do it's thing. you first have to type the magic-words rhn_register (it's also available in system->rhn as an icon. If you do in fact have multiple machines, all based on the same distro level, then you can tell up2date to retain the rpm files which it uploads for you. Copy them over and install in the standard manner using kpackage or whatever. It was this package incidentally that made me move to Redhat. I was tired of extracting teeth to get simple things done, like upgrades. -- http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: exchange 5.5
Schmeits, Roger wrote: > What is similar in the Linux world for a replacement of Exchange 5.5? Group > scheduling, email, resources planning (i.e. room scheduling). > > You mean Groupware? Funny, I'm starting to look into this myself. Not as a replacement for Exchange, but as a new installation. I've found some that look interesting, but haven't tried any yet: Open Source: http://www.phpgroupware.org/ http://www.moregroupware.org/ http://www.anteil.com/pre_crm.htm Closed Source: http://joydesk.com/product_business.html Based on the limited demo's I tried, moregroupware looks pretty good. Anyone use any of these or have other suggestions? HTH, Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: exchange 5.5
There are several commercial solutions I am aware of, and I'm sure there are some open-source ones as well. Here are the commercial ones I know about: 1) HP OpenMail - discontinued by HP, but licensed by Samsung SDS so it looks like it has a future after all. OpenMail has been around forever, so it's well tested in enterprise environments. http://www.openmail.hp.com/cyc/om/00/index.html 2) Bynari Insight - I've been watching this one for awhile, and it seems to have developed nicely. http://www.bynari.net/groupware.html 3) Caldera Volution Messaging Server - New kid on the block, don't know much about it. http://www.caldera.com/products/volutionmsg/ On Thu, 2002-01-03 at 09:40, Schmeits, Roger wrote: > What is similar in the Linux world for a replacement of Exchange 5.5? Group > scheduling, email, resources planning (i.e. room scheduling). > > > Roger > ___ > Linux-users mailing list > Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: patches/updates
Net Llama wrote: > > You do have to pay to use the automated monkey tools. However, nothing > stops you from downloading & installing the updated packages manually. Odd, I've used 'up2date' as recently as 5 minutes ago (nscd update just to see if it would work)...but I never paid anything for it. Hrmm. I'll just keep this to myself...forget I said anything. The only thing I did do was register (in terms of information not in terms of money) the (downloaded) copy I installed when asked for it. When I proved the installation was successful and that Linux/Samba could do the job needed, I went out and bought the office a copy, but the box is still shrink-wrapped. Purchasing it was more an exercise in fiscal morality on my part than anything...I suppose I should RTFM...or at least the errata! ;) -- Linux SxS [http://sxs.webhop.net] ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
RE: patches/updates
You do have to pay to use the automated monkey tools. However, nothing stops you from downloading & installing the updated packages manually. --- "Schmeits, Roger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I was always under the assumption that you had to paid for the service > in > order to use the automated tools. > I might be wrong. wouldn't be the first (orlast for that matter). > thanks > > -Original Message- > From: Ian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 11:41 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: patches/updates > > > "Schmeits, Roger" wrote: > > > > How does one handle packages updates on Linux servers? I have > noticed on > > Redhat you pay a subscribition fee whereas Caldera it is a free > service. > > Beginning relatively green yet I find myself uncomfortable/ignorant > on > > applying patches/updates to Linux distros. How does one handle this > > situation in a production environment without breaking other > programs? > > I think, the subscription to the Redhat service involves them actually > tracking what versions of redhat you are running on what systems and > notifying you by email when an update is needed. There is also a > daemon > or cron driven periodic check for or something of that nature. > > I believe you can update Redhat (at least you could with 7.1) for > free, > by using 'up2date'. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
RE: patches/updates
I was always under the assumption that you had to paid for the service in order to use the automated tools. I might be wrong. wouldn't be the first (orlast for that matter). thanks -Original Message- From: Ian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 11:41 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: patches/updates "Schmeits, Roger" wrote: > > How does one handle packages updates on Linux servers? I have noticed on > Redhat you pay a subscribition fee whereas Caldera it is a free service. > Beginning relatively green yet I find myself uncomfortable/ignorant on > applying patches/updates to Linux distros. How does one handle this > situation in a production environment without breaking other programs? I think, the subscription to the Redhat service involves them actually tracking what versions of redhat you are running on what systems and notifying you by email when an update is needed. There is also a daemon or cron driven periodic check for or something of that nature. I believe you can update Redhat (at least you could with 7.1) for free, by using 'up2date'. -- Linux SxS [http://sxs.webhop.net] ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
exchange 5.5
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Re: patches/updates
--- "Schmeits, Roger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How does one handle packages updates on Linux servers? I have noticed > on > Redhat you pay a subscribition fee whereas Caldera it is a free No you don't. You pay a subscription fee to get to use a fancy program that brainlessly updates your system. Otherwise you update your packages from the RedHat ftp server for free like anyone else. > service. > Beginning relatively green yet I find myself uncomfortable/ignorant on > applying patches/updates to Linux distros. How does one handle this > situation in a production environment without breaking other programs? If the patches are being supplied by the distro vendor, and you haven't modified the packages that are being patched, then nothing should break. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: patches/updates
"Schmeits, Roger" wrote: > > How does one handle packages updates on Linux servers? I have noticed on > Redhat you pay a subscribition fee whereas Caldera it is a free service. > Beginning relatively green yet I find myself uncomfortable/ignorant on > applying patches/updates to Linux distros. How does one handle this > situation in a production environment without breaking other programs? I think, the subscription to the Redhat service involves them actually tracking what versions of redhat you are running on what systems and notifying you by email when an update is needed. There is also a daemon or cron driven periodic check for or something of that nature. I believe you can update Redhat (at least you could with 7.1) for free, by using 'up2date'. -- Linux SxS [http://sxs.webhop.net] ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
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patches/updates
How does one handle packages updates on Linux servers? I have noticed on Redhat you pay a subscribition fee whereas Caldera it is a free service. Beginning relatively green yet I find myself uncomfortable/ignorant on applying patches/updates to Linux distros. How does one handle this situation in a production environment without breaking other programs? Roger ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: start bind-9.2.0 using uid named
Chang babbled on about: > Speaking of bind 9, maybe we should combine all the articles in that > section into one, that talks about setting up a secured, caching DNS > with support for local domains. It should really useful to newbies. > > Your artcile would be a starting point, adding the rest into a bigger > procdure. let's forget about bind 8.. :) on my todo list actually. that and writing up what it takes to make bind 9 chrooted (which is not much) -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: Linux StepByStep - http://linux.nf Admin: http://hunley.homeip.net /* James M doesn't say fsck enough. */ 2.4.3 linux/net/core/netfilter.c ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: start bind-9.2.0 using uid named
[EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled on about:
> > > Simply add named group to the daemon group.
>
> I think this should read: "Simply add the named user to the daemon
> group."
>
> > > then make /var/run root:daemon and 775.
yeah, yeah. what Kurt said
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Re: Memory lapse
On Thu, 3 Jan 2002 08:48:38 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On January 02, Myles Green enlightened our ignorance thusly: > > On Wed, 2 Jan 2002 19:27:49 -0700 > > [deletia] > > > As Ian pointed out, you can do this with LiLo itself or here's > > another one from the lilo mini-howto that will work as well (I can > > verify this as I've used it more than once with success): > > > > dd if=/boot/boot.0300 of=/dev/hda bs=446 count=1 > > The reason bs=446 is correct is that boot loaders use the first 446 > bytes of the MBR. The next 64 bytes contain the partition table. The > last 2 bytes store a magic number typically used to store a value > that confirms that the indicated sector is a boot sector. Thanks for explaining that Kurt, I was begining to wonder which value (512 vs. 446) was the correct one. I know I've used bs=512 in the past and it worked but the Doc I referenced yesterday had bs=446 which I didn't really notice until I saw the post from Declan this morning. Between having Microsoft rammed down my throat at school and running into changes in the Linux documents like the above it's no wonder I'm constant state of confusion these days. -- Myles Green Calgary AB Canada Alberta Linux Step by Step Mirror: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/mylesg/ -- There are two major products that come out of Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Memory lapse
On Thu, 3 Jan 2002 10:45:33 + Declan Moriarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Was it Myles Green who wrote on Thursday 03 January 2002 05:12: > > On Wed, 2 Jan 2002 19:27:49 -0700 > > [snip] > > > > dd if=/boot/boot.0300 of=/dev/hda bs=446 count=1 > > Pardon a detail improvement, but I believe it actually is bs=512. This > can be checked by simply doing ls -l /boot/boot.0300. The MBR is 512 > bytes long, so the memory creaks out. Well, I wrote that verbatum (actually it was a C & P) from the Doc I refered to (lilo mini-howto) but now that you mention it, I do seem to recall using bs=512 when I last used it. Sorry for the confusion :( -- Myles Green Calgary AB Canada Alberta Linux Step by Step Mirror: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/mylesg/ -- There are two major products that come out of Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
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RE: Certification
Randy wrote: >January 2002 08:43 am, you wrote: > > On January 03, Randy enlightened our ignorance thusly: > > > Was it ever decided if SAIR or LPI was the best Linux > > > certification? > > > > Well, as far as I'm concerned, LPI is the far better certification > > for reasons discussed in that thread. LPI is far more rigorous and > > thorough than SAIR. > > > > Kurt > Thanks Kurt, that was a while ago and a long thread. I couldn't > remember if any consensus was ever reached. I'll pull their page and > check them out. > Randy Donohoe As an aside, CompTIA has released their Linux+ certification. I haven't really looked at it though. I've been reading up to get LPI. -- Tom Wilson ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: christmas and its HOT!
--- Tony Alfrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wednesday 02 January 2002 06:25 pm,Net Llama wrote: > > > I was in Troy, NY in late August; it was like a sauna. Ditto > > > Manhattan > > > ;-) > > > > Indeed, Troy, the armpit of NY (and home to my alma mater as well). > > RPI?? Seemed like a pretty good school. At one time it was. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: IT jobs Florida
Randy wrote: > > Any Floridians on the list? What does the IT sector look like down > there? This is my last northern winter. > Thanks, > Randy Donohoe >Every kid out of high school bills him/herself as a computer whiz kid and the state's >college's and universities turn out system science types by the dump truck full. >Although,there is a defense industry settled in around Orlando As for weather, in my >part of the state (Panhandle) the only way you can tell summer from winter is the >rain is cold in the winter and warm in the summer. Lee > ___ > Linux-users mailing list > Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Will they recommend LINUX????
Not likely. It's not just the politicians but the so-called system science bureaucrats. Example: Florida just finished shaving half a billion dollars from the budget. I suggested to the governor's office, his budget office, state purchasing office that they forgo Win XP and the upgrade of many of the state's computers that XP would require and identify where Linux would be better suited as a way to save money. Additionally, many state agencies pay outside contractors to develop speciality software which they then lease back to the state even though Florida paid to have it developed. Linux would save the state a bundle. Unfortunately, it would mean that the state's system science people would have to learn something new and might even be required to write some of those special programs. Then there is the cost of lost revenue to outside contractors that a loss of lease payments would bring. The result: Windows stays firmly entrenched and the taxpayers get to support MS's lawyers and political campaign contributions. "R. Quenett" wrote: > " > > Perhaps they'll urge Americans to switch to a safer OS ;-) > " > Not likely during the curreuired to nt administration. > " > " Or any other. > > Government doesn't _do_ 'open'. It's poisonous to the culture. > > R > > Ps.. a healthy and prosperous new year to all, and congrats and thanks > to all involved in producing the sXs and its content.. impressive and > useful r > ___ > Linux-users mailing list > Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Internet Server Sanctions
On January 03, Declan Moriarty enlightened our ignorance thusly: > I got an Irish Government Grant (payout) to get an Internet site. The site > put up was ABSOLUTE junk, and the company involved > http://www.getfreeinternet.co.uk will not answer the phone, answer e-mail, > amend the site, or do anything they said they would. > > At this stage I would like my domain back, and to get rid of them altogether, > while maybe making things difficult for them in passing. They, however only > get paid for the site, and have ignored requests to remove it. Where do I go > from here? My recommendation would be to start the process to move your domain elsewhere -- perhaps when the new domain host requests the transfer, they will have better success. If not, they may have more clout to compel the transfer. Kurt -- Your sister swims out to meet troop ships. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: christmas and its HOT!
On Wednesday 02 January 2002 08:56 pm,[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Tony Alfrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > On Wednesday 02 January 2002 06:25 pm,Net Llama wrote: > > > --- Tony Alfrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Wednesday 02 January 2002 03:51 pm,Net Llama wrote: > > > > > --- Tony Alfrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > [snip] > > > > Most likely true. At least i don't feel the need to go 20MPH as > > > soon as the first rain drop hits the road. > > > > Naw, us natives just speed up to avoid the touristas. ;-) > > Avoid 'em I thought the idea was to bag one. 8^) Personally, I > was born here in California, left in early teens, and bounced from > Denver, Colorado to Portland Oregon. Then into the Air Force & off > to lots of lovely places, including two years practice in real cold - > Fairbanks, Alaska. > > Worst thing about California drivers in any sort of weather other > than dry is that half of them go 20 mph - and the other half go 90! > Inevitably, some of them meet on the freeway, usually during rush > hour... > > rickf Well, I've been wrong all these years. I always thought the 20 mph half were the touristas, especially those from NY, wondering where all the snow was. ;-)(ooohh, now I'm in trouble). -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd rather be sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Certification
On Thursday 03 January 2002 08:43 am, you wrote: > On January 03, Randy enlightened our ignorance thusly: > > Was it ever decided if SAIR or LPI was the best Linux > > certification? > > Well, as far as I'm concerned, LPI is the far better certification > for reasons discussed in that thread. LPI is far more rigorous and > thorough than SAIR. > > Kurt Thanks Kurt, that was a while ago and a long thread. I couldn't remember if any consensus was ever reached. I'll pull their page and check them out. Randy Donohoe ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
OT, Legal assistance Re: Internet Server Sanctions
On Thu, 3 Jan 2002 11:00:40 +, Declan Moriarty wrote: >At this stage I would like my domain back, and to get rid of them altogether, >while maybe making things difficult for them in passing. They, however only >get paid for the site, and have ignored requests to remove it. Where do I go >from here? Get an attorney stayler ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Memory lapse
On January 02, Myles Green enlightened our ignorance thusly: > On Wed, 2 Jan 2002 19:27:49 -0700 [deletia] > As Ian pointed out, you can do this with LiLo itself or here's another > one from the lilo mini-howto that will work as well (I can verify this > as I've used it more than once with success): > > dd if=/boot/boot.0300 of=/dev/hda bs=446 count=1 The reason bs=446 is correct is that boot loaders use the first 446 bytes of the MBR. The next 64 bytes contain the partition table. The last 2 bytes store a magic number typically used to store a value that confirms that the indicated sector is a boot sector. [more deletia] K -- You will win success in whatever calling you adopt. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Certification
On January 03, Randy enlightened our ignorance thusly: > Was it ever decided if SAIR or LPI was the best Linux certification? Well, as far as I'm concerned, LPI is the far better certification for reasons discussed in that thread. LPI is far more rigorous and thorough than SAIR. Kurt -- Make a wish, it might come true. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: start bind-9.2.0 using uid named
Speaking of bind 9, maybe we should combine all the articles in that section into one, that talks about setting up a secured, caching DNS with support for local domains. It should really useful to newbies. Your artcile would be a starting point, adding the rest into a bigger procdure. let's forget about bind 8.. :) -- The pivotal point is the "second chance", judged by another set of criteria. In Linux We Trust -- http://linux.nf and news://news.hkpcug.org ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Memory lapse
Hi, Group: Thanks to all for the many helpful suggestions and ideas. I will make the lilo boot floppy first and then follow the original plan. I should have thought of that - I have a lilo boot floppy on my other Linux box. I did a little research on restoring the MBR in WinXP, and discovered that the Windows XP installation CD can be used to enter a "recovery mode" from which a DOS prompt allows the user to run the "fixmbr" command, which accomplishes the same thing as "fdisk /mbr" in earlier versions of DOS. If all is as it appears, (assuming the boot loader is in the /boot partition and not the mbr) it won't be necessary to modify or restore the mbr. But then, we have no use for fire insurance until the house burns down. Regards, Glenn Glenn Williams - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux user # 135678 since 1994 Amateur Radio Packeteer since 1988 - Original Message - From: "Collins Richey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 4:47 AM Subject: Re: Memory lapse [snip] > > > > > > dd if=/boot/boot.0300 of=/dev/hda bs=446 count=1 > > > > Pardon a detail improvement, but I believe it actually is bs=512. This > > can be checked by simply doing ls -l /boot/boot.0300. The MBR is 512 > > bytes long, so the memory creaks out. > > > > Before you try anything, first create a working lilo boot disk with your > existing and functional ilo.confby changing the root=/dev/hda to > root=/dev/fd0 and then /sbin/lio. Verify that the boot disk works, then > make your attempts to modify the mbr. > > -- > Collins Richey - Denver Area ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: start bind-9.2.0 using uid named
On January 03, Chang enlightened our ignorance thusly: > ok. > > > It's Doug, Chang.. we're all friends here > > That's not an offcial response. I just found a reply to a similar > question. > > will root:daemon /var/run compromise or break other packages? No. > AND, how to add one group into another group via commands? I don't believe you can. > anyway, I fixed it. thanks for the tips, doug... > > > I have to disagree with ISC. pid files go in /var/run. PERIOD. > > even the Linux Standards Base agrees on this one. > > Simply add named group to the daemon group. I think this should read: "Simply add the named user to the daemon group." > > then make /var/run root:daemon and 775. Kurt -- Accent on helpful side of your nature. Drain the moat. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
