Re: NFS filesystem
On Fri, 25 Jan 2002 13:52:23 -0500 "Michael W. Holdeman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Setting up another Fileserver, and SAMBA server. I am interested in > teh most stable filesystem for this server. Reiser I have been told is > not the best choice, and I have had corruption problems with it. > EXT3?, or EXT2, the old standby. I've had good success with ext3. Kurt ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: code red retaliations
On Fri, 25 Jan 2002 13:42:55 -0500 "Douglas J Hunley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > the script I used would turn the damn computer off... > I abandoned it after a while though cause a lawsuit would definately > suck..-- Ayup, getting sued can ruin your whole day... Kurt ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Intel compiler
On Sun, 27 Jan 2002 08:41:15 -0800 (PST) "Net Llama" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- Jerry McBride <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > My take on the whole affair is that Intel is making sure it's new P4 > > is properly supported... in that its' new optimizaions are being > > exploited by this compiler. That said... I'll find out shortly if > > its' worth the salt. The curious thing is... they want $500.00 for > > the fully supported product... > > I don't know that this is their reasoning. Intel worked very closely > with various OSS groups to make sure that their I64 had good support > in Linux. I think Intel is just looking to make a buck. Likely so. Various folks from Intel also participate in GCC development. Intel has a vested interest in making sure that code will run on the IA64 platform. > Keep in mind that even if the Intel compiler is faster, better etc > than gcc, this isn't all that much of a coup. THe Portland Group has > been putting out 'commericial' grade compilers that whip the GNU > compilers in performance for years. Precisely. Kurt ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: init and defunct process cleanup
On Mon, 28 Jan 2002 13:12:42 -0500 "Douglas J Hunley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have a process or two that are listed as and are owned by > init. It was my understanding that these types of processes would get > init as their parent, and periodically init would scan its children > and remove the defunct ones. These processes seem to be hanging > around. They don't respond to kill signals at all (I sent kill -$i > where i was 1-15) and they are still there. Can I signal init to tell > it to cleanup its children?-- Orphaned processes (processes whose parents have died) get owned by init, which then reaps their exit codes and cleans them up neatly. A zombie process is one whose parent did not call wait* on it, so its entry remains in the process table until a reboot. Kurt ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: interest in an annual SxS get-together?
Scribbling feverishly on January 22, Andrew Mathews managed to emit: [...] > offered, t-shirts, tux penguins, pictures of me, well maybe not me, but > Kurt, Doug, Lonnie, Burnsie, Kantoine, and Mike Andrews at least. Do we *really* want to see a picture of Kantoine in a thong? ;-) Kurt -- Don't plan any hasty moves. You'll be evicted soon anyway. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Linux Cartoon
Scribbling feverishly on February 04, burns managed to emit: > > This is a classic: > > http://images.ucomics.com/comics/fw/2002/fw020203.gif Classic indeed! Kurt -- You love your home and want it to be beautiful. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Header include question
Scribbling feverishly on February 05, Rick Sivernell managed to emit: > List / Kurt if he is there > > I am having a small problem. I have the old stl headers being used > before the new version. Would like to know if there is a enviro var that > is set with the -I include files. I have a envir variables set & set into my path > but they are not seen unless they have no file by that name anywhere else. > > Any ideas how to get arounf this? I don't really understand what the problem is. Kurt -- Go to a movie tonight. Darkness becomes you. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Header include question
Scribbling feverishly on February 06, Rick Sivernell managed to emit: > On Wed, 6 Feb 2002 07:58:04 -0500 > Kurt Wall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Scribbling feverishly on February 05, Rick Sivernell managed to emit: > > > List / Kurt if he is there > > > > > > I am having a small problem. I have the old stl headers being used > > > before the new version. Would like to know if there is a enviro var that > > > is set with the -I include files. I have a envir variables set & set into my > > > path but they are not seen unless they have no file by that name anywhere > > > else. > > > > > > Any ideas how to get arounf this? > > > > I don't really understand what the problem is. > > > > Kurt > > -- > Kurt > >The header files and there sub directory files are not seen, if there is a > corresponding file in the oldder header files in /usr/.. In Windows there is a > envirment variable to set paths for headers. That way certain headers will be seen > before others. Is there something similar in Linux/Unix. Or do I need to move my > stlport stl library to /usr. Okay, now I understand. -I /some/dir should place specified headers at the front of the list; that is, the standard headers should be searched *after* directories specified with -I. However, you have to use -I- *before* -I because -I only looks for #include "foo.h", not for #include . Bear in mind that -I directories are scanned left to right. You might also find it useful to use the -nostdinc option, which turns off searching the standard system directories for include files. The downside to this should be clear, though. Finally, use the -H option to tell GCC to print the names of the header files it is using. For more infomation, have a look at the "Preprocessor Options" and the"Directory Options" nodes of the GCC info file. Kurt -- You definitely intend to start living sometime soon. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Header include question
On, Wed, 6 Feb 2002 10:34:03 -0600, Rick Sivernell typed: [mondo snippage] > I understand, I have a handle on it now. > I just knew you were the one to ask. I really > appreciate your help Thank you. Glad to help. Kurt -- Viagra -- strong enough for a man; made for a woman. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Thanks Douglas Hunley
Typing furiously on February 06, Douglas J Hunley managed to emit: > Michael Hipp babbled on about: > > What's the *proper* way to do this (verify the libs)? > > rpm -q -a|more > > > > > P.S. I recommend you run XFree86 in 100 DPI mode for best results. > > > > How is this done? > > xdpyinfo|grep resol > then tell me how you run X? through xdm? or startx? or other? If you startX from the command line, $ startx -- -dpi 100 If you use a display manager (gdm/xdm/kdm), edit the file that starts the X server and add -dpi 100 to the command line. Kurt ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Where to get libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3
Typing furiously on February 06, Michael Hipp managed to emit: > On Wednesday 06 February 2002 03:09 pm, Net Llama wrote: > > rpm --rebuild > > > > If all goes well, you end up with a binary RPM in > > /usr/src/OpenLinux/RPM/ > [snip] > > > After I did that would I have libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3? > > > > You'll have an RPM named libstdc++-libc-foo-whatever-i386.rpm > > As long as you'll indulge me, I'll keep asking questions. Thanks. > > Bear in mind that I'm on a hard-driving search for that holy grail of > files: libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3 > > So which rpm would I do --rebuild on? I searched the rpm database and the > above lib file doesn't exist anywhere within. So how would rebuilding help? On my Red Hat box, it comes from the gcc source rpm. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: A Fat-Finger Fixer
Typing furiously on February 07, Kevin O'Gorman managed to emit: > Okay, I'll bite. What is it? There's no man page for 'shopt', nor any > mention of it in the bash manpage as a builtin, so I'm mystified. That's > on eD2.4, anyway. I don't recall which bash version was the default in eD 2.4, but methinks shopt is bash 2.x. In any event, shopt -s cdspell sets the cdspell option, which has the following effect: cdspell If set, minor errors in the spelling of a directory component in a cd command will be corrected. The errors checked for are transposed characters, a missing character, and one character too many. If a correcĀ tion is found, the corrected file name is printed, and the command proceeds. This option is only used by interactive shells. Kurt ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: kernel recommendations
Typing furiously on February 07, Collins managed to emit: > I've been off the linux lists for a couple of weeks. > > Is 2.4.17 a "safe" kernel for upgrading? I've used it without incident. Kurt ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Ping
Typing furiously on February 11, Ian managed to emit: > Pong. Game, set, match. Kurt -- New England Life, of course. Why do you ask? ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: HELP!! (fixed - not solved)
Typing furiously on February 11, daddy managed to emit: > On Sunday 10 February 2002 07:34, Michael wrote: > > On Sun, 10 Feb 2002 08:23:49 -0500 > > > > Michael Scottaline <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribbled in frustration: > > >You may want to check your system for a "rootdisk" folder. > > >Mike > > > > === > > OOOPS! I meant "rootkit" > > > > Mike > If I have one what does that mean? That you've been hacked. Kurt -- Why do they call a fast a fast, when it goes so slow? ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: (no subject)
Typing furiously on February 12, Cyberclops managed to emit: > What in hell is this s**t? A stock, witty reply to "ping". As in "ping pong". A slightly less hostile question would have sufficed. Kurt -- "If that man in the PTL is such a healer, why can't he make his wife's hairdo go down?" -- Robin Williams ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
For Our Aussie Friends
"Sydney, 800 miles S. of Nova Scotia (SatireWire.com) - After what witnesses described as an all night blinder during which it kept droning on about how it was always being bloody ignored by the whole bloody world and would bloody well stand to do something about it, Australia this morning woke up to find itself in the middle of the North Atlantic." http://www.satirewire.com/news/jan02/australia.shtml -- Morton's Law: If rats are experimented upon, they will develop cancer. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: who has built Mozilla from source?
Typing furiously on February 13, Net Llama managed to emit: > Subject basically asks it all. Has anyone successfully built Mozilla > from source? If so, what kind of voo-doo monkey magic did you need to > get it to build into a fully functional package? Got any chicken feet? Kurt -- "I will make no bargains with terrorist hardware." -- Peter da Silva ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Workstation 3.1
Shawn Tayler offered this little gem: % I am curious as I am not a developer (at least not yet). Would I % be able to qualify? Yes. ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: YOU READ MY MIND (was Re: building a new distro)
Andrew Mathews offered this little gem: % % Question is, what standards should be adhered to? I woult think FHS ( % http://www.pathname.com/fhs/ ) would be common sense, as would be LSB ( % http://www.linuxbase.org/ ) just for starters. This needs a consensus % before any package inclusion discussions. Ummm, unless things have changed, the FHS URL refers to the same standard as the LSB. I can't get to the Pathname site to confirm this, though. It certainly *used* to be the same, though. Regardless, the FHS (2.0 *or* 2.1) represents a good starting point, for most of the reasons pointed out in the various Rationale sections scattered throughout the spec. I don't agree with all of them, but neither does anyone else. Kurt ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: KurtWerks? Or does he?
Les Bell offered this little gem: % Mike Andrew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: % % >> % Last disastrous buisiness decision he made was % marketing the Kurtwerks(tm) Tin Hat. Turned out to be just tin foil, so % no-one was fooled. % << % % Huh? It stopped the aliens controlling our thoughts, didn't it? % % Pity it didn't sell so well in Orem. [smirks and chuckles] Yow! Kurt -- Sole agent for the KurtWerks(tm) Tin Hat ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: KurtWerks? Or does he?
Andrew Mathews offered this little gem: % % GNL/Linux (Gnu's Not Linux) Here, here! ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: FW: Security Alert Consensus #104
Taplin, Simon S offered this little gem: % I know the debate about posting security warnings is still ongoing, but how % about I just post this when I get it, its only once a week. How about not, at least until the debate concludes? I monitor a number of security lists as it is and, frankly, get enough duplicate email messages already as a result. Another duplicate is quite unnecessary. Why not simply post the URL, if you must post it at all? Kurt [286 lines of noise snipped] ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Advice?
Glenn Williams offered this little gem: % Hi, Group: % % Are there any caveats, warnings, pitfalls or advice I should heed % before installing SuSE 7.2 Personal with the firewall and journaling % file system (Reiserfs) options enabled? Back up early and often. Save your /boot partition. Create a resuce disk. Don't put vital data on it. Don't expose a fresh installation of *any* distro to the Internet until you've updated with all security patches and welded security holes shut. K ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Advice?
Glenn Williams offered this little gem: % Thanks, Kurt % % Good ideas. HTH. K ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: exucutimg binaries
Lee offered this little gem: % Trying to install BootMagic on a Manrake 7.0 that is already installed % on the hd. Plan on adding SuSe later. Have BootMagic on a Partition % Magic 4.0 disk. When I try to execute the file with % /mnt/cdrom/BOOTMAGIC/ setup.exe Enter, I get a'" can't execute binary % file" error message. If i try . /mnt/cdrom/BOOTMAGIC/setup.exe I get the % same error message. Questions: 1) can BootMagic be installed from the % Partition Magic cd on an already installed Linux system, 2) how do I get % the binary file to execute from the cd? I'm guessing that you have to run a Windows binary from the Windows operating system, unless you have Wine installed. Also make sure that the CD is mounted with the "exec" directive in /etc/fstab, or at least not with the "noexec" directive. Kurt ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Stale lock file?
Vern W Heesch offered this little gem: % I am running eW3.1 (beta) and am having a problem with the floppy. If I % try to mount it from the terminal it tells me it is already mounted. I % can cd to /mnt/floppy and see the files. If I click on the floppy icon % on my desktop it tells me it is already mounted or busy. I can't umount % it from the desktop icon because it doesn't have umount on the menu, % it's still mount. If I try to umount from the terminal it says it cannot % create link /etc/mtab~, perhaps there is a stale lock file? % % Can someone explain to me what the 'stale lock file' is all about, and % maybe a solution to this? This happened before and I couldn't figure % anything out so I rebooted. Would be nice if I could fix this without % having to reboot. Hmm. Have a look /in /var/lock for the offending file. Look also for a dot file in /etc. Is there already an /etc/mtab~ owned by another user? What happens if you simply log out all users? Kurt ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: linux swap priority
--- % -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- % Hash: SHA1 % % I just noticed that on SuSE, swap is mounted w/ a priority of 42. I know that % if you don't specify a priority it gets a priority of '-1'. % I understand what the swap priority is for (man 2 swapon), but why set it to % 42? Is that better than -1? Or is it just a Douglas Adams reference? 42 is better than -1 (re-read the swapon man page). Is that the priority or the nice value? -1 has always worked for me. Of course, that value goes all the way to MAXINT (32767, or some such), so 42 isn't as good as 420. It could be an Adams reference, too. Kurt ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: linux swap priority
Auyeung at Technet Systems offered this little gem: % Sorry to interrupt, % % Does the newer kernels still have the 127M limit on swap partition % size? Not since late in the 2.1 series. Kurt ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Compiling SRPMs and i386, versus i686
Shawn Tayler offered this little gem: % Ok, % % Here is todays really stupid question, I am quite sure. No question is too stupid to ask. Some questions are, however, to stupid to answer. This is not one of of them. % I was starting to compile the KDE2.1.1 src rpms on my newly installed % OL 3.1 system. I noticed that the compiled RPMs end up in the i386 % directory under src etc Is this because my Kernel is a stock % precompiled one? Or are things just done that way? Is there a way to No, it has little to do with your kernel. Rather, it is more about RPM's default build options. % get an optimazation of the compiled code to better utilize my P3-500? % Would it behove me to do a Kernel compile of my own first then do these % other compiles? Yes. Find /var/lib/rpm/rpmrc (or some such). Change the default buildarch to i686. Another way to help is to locate the the options in that same file that pass options to GCC and add one or both of "-march=686 -mcpu=686" to the options line (which currently reads something like "-O2 ". % Just looking for a little wisdom from the list I've got a wisdom tooth you can have, if you think it will help... Kurt ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
C Shell Ref [Was: Re: Stupid newbie network question]
Susan Macchia wrote: % in C-shell: % $ setenv DISPLAY :0 Speaking o' C shell, can you recommend a good tutorial reference for C shell? I've been a ksh kind of guy since I got started with Unix, so it's time I branched out. Thanks, Kurt ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Compiling SRPMs and i386, versus i686
Net Llama corrected my CRS, noting: % % That's a beautiful nugget of info. However, on the RH based systems % that i'm using at the moment all the files in /var/lib/rpm end in .rpm, % and are binaries. Mine was in /usr/lib/rpm. Varies from distro to distro, and the FHS has changed things, too. You can also twiddle/create /etc/rpmrc or $HOME/.rpmrc to get the same effect. /{us,va}r/lib/rpm/rpmrc modifies RPM's behavior at the global level. $HOME/.rpmrc modifies it on a per user basis. Kurt ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: packet socket: mmapped IO?
Net Llama offered this little gem: % I'm building 2.4.6 (yes, the final is out!) and ran across the option % under Networking Options for "Packet socket: mmapped IO". The % description sounds nice "If you say Y here, the Packet protocol driver % will use an IO mechanism that results in faster communication. If % unsure say NO". % % OK...so if this is such a great thing, why would i say NO? I honestly % don't even understand what it does. Would there be any benefit to % activating this for a ppp dialup connection? Any risks? mmapped packet socket IO only buys you great benefits if you use the packet socket stuff. But, to break it down somewhat, mmapped IO is I/O to a memory map, an in-core image of a disk file. Obviously, I/O to memory is vastly faster than I/O to disk, and an mmapped file doesn't update the disk version until explicitly flushed (bdflush, for example, doesn't update the on-disk file). Most modern "cat" implementations, for example, use mmaps (memory maps), rather than long sequences of disk reads followed by writes to stdout. You won't see the difference for small files, but compare the performance of catting, say, a 10MB file, to reading that same file in using vi. I'm still sorting out the packet socket stuff, I'm afraid. % I still haven't figured out why Netscape & Mozilla get sluggish under % 2.4.x kenels, so i'm kinda grasping at straws for solutions. Netscape and Mozilla are still broken, and the new VM code in the kernel hasn't helped. I've no problems with Opera in this regard. Kurt ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: ssh2 issues
[EMAIL PROTECTED] offered this little gem: % % I had added my box in /etc/hosts on the SolBox before writing that last % email. Good question, though... Add "-d" (debug) at the server end, then. Perhaps add it at the client end, too. I believe that you can add the "+x" or "-x" equivalent to the configuration file in /etc/ (/etc/sshd.conf, methinks) to fix that little inconvenience. Kurt ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Stupid newbie network question
Susan Macchia offered this little gem: % I suspect if you look at fatbrain and do a search (probably an o'reilly % book out there), you'll find a decent one. I learned C-shell so long % ago on SunOS 2.something that didn't use any other reference but man. % It was the first shell I learned and so, of course out of habit, it is % the shell I use. But I have to say that I think that kshell is better % for writing scripts. I like C-shell for UI...IMHO [nods] I use ksh/sh/bash/zsh out of habit, but I keep hearing that csh is good for programming. I'd like to see for myself. csh will have a tough go of it though, now that Korn has released ksh as open source... Thanks for the input. Say, did you ever solve your X programming dilemma (how to identify the client GUI system)? Kurt ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: PGP stuff
Net Llama offered this little gem: % % I kinda agree with Collins on this. THe amount of bandwidth that is % getting wasted with pgp (or gpg) public keys on a public mailing list is % just attocious. I rather doubt who is saying what on this list, as long % as its civil & informative. Umm, I don't quite follow that last sentence. But, I'm with the dromedary and Collins on this one. PGP is important, to be sure, but I consider it unnecessary on a public list. My 2 shekels.. Kurt ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Error on mail to the group.
Collins Richey offered this little gem: % Any clue why I got the following? The mail in question was actually % delivered to the group. I've never gotten anything like this from my mail % service before. % % % Fw: Mail System Error - Returned MailError on mail to % % Begin forwarded message: % % Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 18:44:26 -0700 % From: Mail Administrator <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> % To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] % Subject: Mail System Error - Returned Mail % % % This Message was undeliverable due to the following reason: % % Each of the following recipients was rejected by a remote mail server. % The reasons given by the server are included to help you determine why % each recipient was rejected. % % Recipient: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> % Reason:5.7.1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... Relaying denied % % % Please reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] % if you feel this message to be in error. Are you sure there wasn't more information (like a full mail header)? The MTA at linux.nf thought your were trying to relay mail, which you were, in a way (to the list, of course), to it refused to do so and bounced the message. I got one of these from pananix.com a few days ago, as memory serves. Kurt ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: X display problem (was Re: Stupid newbie network question)
Susan Macchia offered this little gem: % > % > Say, did you ever solve your X programming dilemma (how to identify % > the client GUI system)? % % No, I could find no way to identify the "windowing system" to which an % app is displayed. I have customers who use Exceed or ReflectionX and % the default fonts/window sizes chosen for, say Tru64, don't look right % under Exceed/ReflectionX, which is why I would like to dectect this. % Our application does allow the user to customize said sizes/fonts, but % not until after running it with the default fonts/sizes for Tru64. Ho, % hum... % % Thanks for asking anyway :-) Sure. I posted a reply with some suggestions, but my memory of Xt and Xlib programming has grown a shade rusty, so I wasn't sure if they would work. Kurt ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: PGP stuff
Glenn Williams offered this little gem: % Well, it sorta makes sense if you substitute "rarely" for "rather" but % I am just guessing. I was tweaking the Llama in the first sentence, although I wasn't quite sure what he meant, either. No big deal. He clarified. ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
SuSE Gripes [Was Re: KernelBuild 2.4.6]
Bruce Marshall offered this little gem: [snippage] % Just found another 'wide decision' in SuSE 7.2 % % Tried to add a user... like webmaster. Should be an easy thing to do. % % Nope... It es verboten to add a user uhnless it be 2 to 8 chars in length!! % % Dumb... totally dumb. No, neither dumb nor totally dumb. Only recently has support for user names longer than 8 characters developed. As long as you stay within a strictly Linux (and, I believe, a strictly 2.4+ kernel and glibc >= 2.1, but I could be mistaken) long user names are fine. But, they are extremely non-portable - if you use NFS and/or NIS (or NIS+) with non-Linux *NIXen systems, long user names may cause problems. Big UIDs, on the other hand, are no problem. % But just go to command line and use YAST instead of the gui YAST2. No % problems, no questions asked. % % Dumb... totally dumb. The GUI tool is behind. BFD. Point-and-click system administration is bad idea, anyway. ;-) Kurt ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Sylpheed test
Bruce Marshall offered this little gem o' intolerance: % On Thursday 12 July 2001 22:30, Andrew Mathews wrote: % > This is a test. For the next few words the sylpheed email program will % > be checking wordwrap and non html settings. If this had been a real % > message you would have been notified by extra sensory perception. % > Remember, this is only a test. % > % > - % > Andrew Mathews % % This is Kmail testing for intruder emailers. Intruder alert!!! % % Consider yourself LARTed for having a sig line that exceeds the standard 3 lines, lacks the obligatory "-- \n" separator, and that includes ASCII art. Kurt ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Sylpheed test
[posted and mailed] Andrew Mathews wrote: % % Okay, I'm completely lost here. I wanted to test sylpheed to see if it % had any features I wanted. I created one message to test the word wrap % at 72 and no html so as not to offend anyone else. I have no idea why % Bruce would want to killfile me because of that. Not like we had a flame % war or anything. My sig is the same as I've used for a couple of years % now, and is listed in the SxS. Oh well, I try to be courteous and verify % I'm not violating the common rules and someone gets their knickers in a % twist. Maybe Les Bell wasn't so wrong after all. But before I go, What's % a LART? Andrew, Sorry for the confusion. I LARTed Bruce for a petty PLONK, not you, although you sig line *is* too long ;-). A LART is Luser Attitude Readjustment Tool. I prefer the fire and brimstone variety, others prefer heavy and substantial. Kurt ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: SuSE Gripes [Was Re: KernelBuild 2.4.6]
Bruce Marshall opined: % On Friday 13 July 2001 00:39, Kurt Wall wrote: % > % > No, neither dumb nor totally dumb. Only recently has support for % > user names longer than 8 characters developed. As long as you stay % > within a strictly Linux (and, I believe, a strictly 2.4+ kernel % > and glibc >= 2.1, but I could be mistaken) long user names are % > fine. But, they are extremely non-portable - if you use NFS and/or % > NIS (or NIS+) with non-Linux *NIXen systems, long user names may % > cause problems. Big UIDs, on the other hand, are no problem. % % Well, all that you say kinda flies in the face of my having users like % webmaster and hostmaster under an eD2.4 system. Why was it possible on a % 2.2.14 kernel? I *did* write "but I could be mistaken." eD2.4 isn't *that* old, either. In any event, this is pointless so I'll drop the subject. I've been up too long meeting deadlines, and I'm a grumpy curmudgeon on my bet day anyway. K ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: SRPM weirdness
Net Llama offered this little gem: % I've suddenly run into a very odd problem trying to rebuild SRPMs. In % the past I was always able to download foo.src.rpm and run the following % as root without any problems: % rpm --rebuild foo.src.rpm [slash/burn] % File /usr/src/redhat/SOURCES/ppp-%{Version}.tar.gz: No such file or % directory % % That last line is the problem. It dies at that point. I tried a % different SRPM and it died with a similar error. The directory % structure /usr/src/redhat/SOURCES/ exists. Any ideas? It certainly is. You're not using Caldera's version of RPM, but someone else's, arguably Red Hat's. Somewhere under /usr/lib/rpm you'll find a file named *macros* - look at it's defintion of "%(Version}" and I think you'll figure out how to fix the problem. Kurt ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: SRPM weirdness
Net Llama offered this little gem: [whack] % Well, its the Caldera built SRPMs that are failing. SRPMs built by % other distros or people are fine. I'm not using rpm -3.0.6 from % Caldera, i'm using Redhat's version. Hrmm...perhaps that's the problem. % BTW, what's a macro with respect to rpm? RPM macros are one name that represents another or that expand to some value that can be programmatically determined at run time (vis-a-vis RPM). Kurt ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: what are you doing about the ORBS mess?
Douglas J. Hunley offered this little gem: % I finally landed a new job and have been really busy this week. I just got Congrats! % caught up (kinda) and am at a loss about the ORBS thing. My current % sendmail.cf uses blackholes.mail-abuse.org for it's DNS spam blocking. Should % I swith that to or.orbl.org? What have you guys done about it? % Please don't chime in w/ "you shouldn't do that. it censorship" or any of % that other crap. If that's what you want to talk about, go to /. % I have sites to run and policies to follow. Thanks ORBS have effectively shot themselves in the head. In any event, while I agree that DNS-based spam blocking is effective, I think it a blunt tool that hurts innocent users who've no idea what their ISPs are doing. What really pisses me off, though, is the ORBS random tests - they tested my mailserver once, discovered no open relay, but came back again two days later anyway. ORBS were blocked at my firewall thereafter until I took my server down when I moved. They stay on my personal shit list until I get a personal letter apologizing for attacking my server. I know little about MAPS, so, for once, I have no opinion. ;-) Kurt ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: List problems?
Tom Jandl offered this little gem: % Has anyone else been getting "ghost" messages dated June 28th thru July 13th % from this list today? Nope. Kurt ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Multipage images with convert
--- % Could someone show me the command using convert (Part of the ImageMagick % package) to combine two or more tiff files into one large tiff file, or % best yet, a large jpg file, which will display in a browser like netscape? In general, "convert fromfile.tiff tofile.jpeg". The magic incantation depends on what you want to do. I think you may prefer the "montage" command, another part of ImageMagick. "combine" may also do what you want: combine fig1.tiff fig2.tiff combined.tiff http://linux.nf/magik.htm Kurt ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
RE: Help with PDF files
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On > Behalf Of Mike Andrew > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 8:55 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Help with PDF files > > > On Wednesday 18 July 2001 06:34, Vern W Heesch wrote: > > Didn't dawn on me that txt files contain no formatting. > Sooo, any ideas on > > something that CAN write to PDF and maintain the original > formatting? I > > tried a few searches but only came up with the Adobe > windows program. But I > > don't want to use windows. enscript, ps2pdf Use enscript (or nenscript, depending on distribution) to create PostScript output of your text file. Then, use ps2pdf to turn the PostScript into PDF. I have *no* idea why you'd want to do this, though. Ain't none o' my bizness, either. Kurt ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: We're being scanned (and attacked)
Douglas J. Hunley offered this little gem: % Some joker started scanning my ports VERY heavily today. I'm also getting % beaten by that new IDA worm (the IIS one). Some kiddies have a shit load of % scripts and are trolling for vulnerable machines (thank god for apache/linux). % Portsentry and my other tools are doing their best, but we're still getting % hammered. hang in there Ayup. I was getting thumped earlier, but it seems to have died down for the time being. I want to know where the a*hole that wrote this lives 'cause I've got a club I'd like to apply to his/her head. Forcefully. Repeatedly. K ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: SCSI Zip Drive SuSE 7.1
Mike Andrew offered this little gem: % On Friday 20 July 2001 05:39, Jason Joines wrote: % > /dev/sdb4 did the trick. Thanks for the help! % % Always a pleasure. Welcome to this wonderful group of penguins. ...with the occasional odd duck like Mike thrown in just to keep us all on our toes. K ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Reiser FS
On Fri, Jul 20, 2001 at 01:20:09PM -0700, Jim Bonnet wrote: > There is a tool that will blow away your mbr, dd > > dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/[device-node] bs=512k count=1 > > Im not sure what fdisk /mbr does, but you can take a look using hexdump -c on > the drive before and after so you can get a feel for what it does.. fdisk /mbr replaces the active boot sector with a backup copy. ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Linux-users -- confirmation of subscription -- request 425196
On Sat, Jul 21, 2001 at 10:19:51AM -0700, Net Llama wrote: > > *sigh* Is it so hard to follow instructions? Can't follow instructions if they don't get read in the first place. ;-) K ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Linux-users -- confirmation of subscription -- request 425196
On Sat, Jul 21, 2001 at 03:41:28PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > confirm 425196 Do be so good as to read the *entire* message explaining how to confirm your subscription request. Kurt ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: RedHat7.1/eDesktop2.4 differences
On Sat, Jul 21, 2001 at 06:57:46PM -0700, Ken Moffat wrote: > > I'd like to know the differences I can expect to encounter if I go from > eD2.4 to RH7.1. There are probably many subtle differences, and I > thought someone might have some thoughts? Newer kernel; newer X; slicker tools; the installation assists you in setting up a firewall (similar tool available post-install); Linuxconf is deprecated; BIND jumps to verison 9.0; bindconf is the new BIND configuration tool; apacheconf is the new Apache configuration tool; Sendmail jumps tp 8.9; smarter security configuration in general. I think I'm familiar with this book, too. Has some warts, but the information is mostly accurate. Kurt ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: RedHat7.1/eDesktop2.4 differences
On Sat, Jul 21, 2001 at 10:07:17PM -0700, Net Llama wrote: [Llama holding back snipped] > bombed out on 3 of the 4. I've since replaced it on the 4th with SuSE > as I was quite sickened by the perpetual POS that kde2 has become. Its [more self-restraint snipped] Y'know, FVWM2 is again starting to look attractive as a window manager how that both GNOME and KDE have surpassed it in terms of bloat and speed... ;-) K ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: yowee!!
On Fri, Jul 20, 2001 at 04:54:44PM -0400, dep wrote: > alan cox refuses to come to u.s., says developers get arrested there. > maddog says he's nuts. (well, i'm greatly oversimplifying, but that's > kind of the effect.) > > http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2001-07-20-014-20-NW-CY Zounds, Batman! Alan Cox is one of the cooler heads in the free software community. Must be bleed over from the G8 mess. Ick. K ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Why Apache Has Three Configuration Files
ROFLMAO. I was doing some research and stumbled across this philosophical explanation why Apache has three configuration, the use of two of which is deprecated: http://www.apache.org/info/three-config-files.html I especially liked the final note: "... and if someone doesn't put the answers to these questions into a FAQ someplace, you are all at risk of being assaulted again with yet another excerpt from my rejected scripts for "Kung Fu: The Legend drags its Lame Ass into Cyberspace' ..." Blessed Be, Kurt ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Broken DNS?
Hi, list, Since my move, I've had to rely on my ISP's services for KurtWerks because I cannot obtain affordable broadband connectivity in my new location. Anyway, I have a fixed range of IP addresses, one of which is assigned each time I dial-in. When David's mail server is providing back up MX services for linux.nf, I invariably receive 550 errors when sending mail to the list because the reverse lookup on my IP address understandably fails. Is that a foobar of my own (bad masquerading rule somewhere) or of my ISP? If the former, I'm not enough of a masquerading whiz to fix it. If the latter, I'll lean on the ISP to fix it. If more information is required, I'll provide that, too, publicly if it doesn't expose too much information about my setup, privately if I feel it does. Thanks and all, Kurt ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Reiser FS
On Mon, Jul 23, 2001 at 06:41:37AM -0700, Jim Bonnet wrote: > uh, a backup copy of what? If you are running linux/unix how is fdisk /mbr > going to provide a backup copy? It must copy those bytes from somewhere that > windows likes.. Sorry. A backup copy of the boot sector. fdisk /mbr is DOS/Windows only. > Does grub/lilo install a backup copy of the mbr in the same place as windoze? Not in the same place. LILO does provide a restore option, but the command line option for restoring the original boot sector using LILO escapes me just now. K ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: RedHat7.1/eDesktop2.4 differences
On Mon, Jul 23, 2001 at 05:59:54PM -0400, Douglas J. Hunley wrote: > On Sunday 22 July 2001 13:14, Net Llama babbled: > > > > dig up some documentation on their package manager. I forget > > > > 'man tar' ;) > > bit of an oversimplification there LLama... 'man pkgtool' would be correct > (but who actually uses that?) As an arrogant man myself, I recognize arrogance when I see it. :-) There are literally thousands of installations using pkgadd and its kin. Why, I can think of three right off hand that use it, and they haven't a Linux box in the house. K ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: blowing away boot records and partition tables
On Mon, Jul 23, 2001 at 06:01:37PM -0400, Douglas J. Hunley wrote: > I understand that 'dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/xx bs=512k count=1' > will zero out the MBR, but does it also get the partition table? or should a > count of 2 (3?) be used? > thanks! Oops. "bs=512k" means 512 kilobtyes. Strongly recommend you try "bs=512" instead. K ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: blowing away boot records and partition tables
On Tue, Jul 24, 2001 at 10:25:19AM +1130, Mike Andrew wrote: > On Tuesday 24 July 2001 09:31, Douglas J. Hunley wrote: > > I understand that 'dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/xx bs=512k count=1' > > will zero out the MBR, but does it also get the partition table? or should > > a count of 2 (3?) be used? > > thanks! > > oooh, that aint what you want at all. you specified a scribble of one single > block of 512,000 bytes > > dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/xx bs=512 count=1 Of course, Mike "The MBR King" beat me to it... K ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Fwd: New column
On Mon, Jul 23, 2001 at 07:35:27PM -0400, Randy Donohoe wrote: > Thanks for the exposure, that'll help a lot. Two-second pings aren't > bad, over here in the hills of eastern Kentucky our signals come in on > surplus DC mine cable. We use carrier pigeons to transmit our packets in Holladay, UT. K ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: RedHat7.1/eDesktop2.4 differences
On Sun, Jul 22, 2001 at 05:45:01AM -0700, Kenneth G. Moffat wrote: > This sounds dangerously close to an endorsement Of? K ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Broken DNS?
On Mon, Jul 23, 2001 at 08:24:18AM -0400, dep wrote: > On Monday 23 July 2001 01:11 am, Kurt Wall wrote: > > | Since my move, I've had to rely on my ISP's services for KurtWerks > | because I cannot obtain affordable broadband connectivity in my new > | location. Anyway, I have a fixed range of IP addresses, one of > | which is assigned each time I dial-in. When David's mail server is > | providing back up MX services for linux.nf, I invariably receive > | 550 errors when sending mail to the list because the reverse lookup > | on my IP address understandably fails. Is that a foobar of my own > | (bad masquerading rule somewhere) or of my ISP? If the former, I'm > | not enough of a masquerading whiz to fix it. If the latter, I'll > | lean on the ISP to fix it. If more information is required, I'll > | provide that, too, publicly if it doesn't expose too much > | information about my setup, privately if I feel it does. > > the way around this i'm using -- smpt on local machine, pop elsewhere > -- is a masquerade envelope, which is fairly easily set up in > sendmail. is this the kind of thing you're seeking? I use envelope masquerading. Alas, this doesn't seem to be the solution I seek. I shall continue my quest... Kurt ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Fwd: New column
On Mon, Jul 23, 2001 at 10:38:44PM -0500, David A. Bandel wrote: > Kurt Wall wrote: > > > > We use carrier pigeons to transmit our packets in Holladay, UT. > > > > Then I assume you are in full compliance with the new RFC2549, IP over > Avian Carriers with Quality of Service, which updated RFC1149, Standard > fo the transmission of IP datagrams on avian carriers. Alas, no. I'm totally retro and have not enabled QoS. I didn't realize RFC1149 had been updated, either. Thanks for the tip. ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Way off topic
On Tue, Jul 24, 2001 at 07:56:27PM -0700, Shawn Tayler wrote: > On Tue, 24 Jul 2001 22:18:50 -0400, Bruce Marshall wrote: > > >This is so wy off topic, I have to ask:"how many of these hillarious > >things have you had?" > > > > :o) > > One is enough! Sure, if its a one gallon bottle. *-) K ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Broken DNS?
On Tue, Jul 24, 2001 at 12:20:00PM -0700, Keith Morse wrote: > > I'm sorry as this probably won't answer your question, but won't the > reverse lookup have resolve to a mx record. At the very least you might > want to pose this question to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] user's > list. Chuck Mead is the maintainer and seriously knowledgeable about all > things mta/mda/mua/et al. No need to apologize. I'm still poking around for an answer, but, fortunately, it happens infrequently enough that it is low on my list of things to fix. Thanks, Kurt ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: dying harddisk
On Thu, Jul 26, 2001 at 02:49:43PM +0800, Auyeung at Technet Systems wrote: > Hi, everyone, > > My harddisk running RH7.0 is developing bad sectors. > What is the name of program that will run a surface scan on > a Linux system? > I man fsck and it seems that fsck is not the answer? badblocks Kurt ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: The Strangest Things In My Mailbox!
On Thu, Jul 26, 2001 at 12:26:25AM -0600, Myles Green wrote: > [snippage] > > in fact, it was one of their dial-up help-desk people who first turned > me on to linux way back when - right after i said 'what do you mean > reformat the drive and reinstall !?! again !!? blah! blah! blah! there's > got to be *something* better than this!!'. all he said was 'do a search > on google.com for linux... but you didn't hear that from me' =) I downloaded my first few Slackware disks Way Back When (c) from, of all places, America Online. Talk about dripping with irony. ;-) Kurt ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: dying harddisk
On Fri, Jul 27, 2001 at 01:07:11AM +0800, Auyeung at Technet wrote: > Thanks, Rick, Jinm and Kurt, > > I have a backup and so dd to another hd. Put the new hd into another box ( > totally different > hardware ) and to my surprise, on boot up Anaconda detected the change and > reinstalled the new modules correctly --- no more kernel panic --- I think I > start to fall in love with this distro! I believe the critter that does this is named kudzu. Anaconda is the installer. Glad the problem is solved, however. K ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Linux Courses
On Thu, Jul 26, 2001 at 03:22:41PM +0200, Taplin, Simon S wrote: > I'm looking at doing some Linux training while working. I see in Linux > Journal that there are two main OS independent version, the LPI LPI (Linux > Professionals Institute) and the SAIR GNU linux. Which is better? And why? My 2 shekels: LPI is the only alternative worth considering because I would have to study to pass their certification. Note that LPI does not provide training, they define certifications and the tests to achieve those certifications. I don't like SAIR for several reasons: 1. "GNU/LInux" - 'nuff said. 2. Tobin Maginnis is an ass and even more arrogant than me - he was with LPI back before LPI *was* LPI, when LPI was just a group of linux-cert mailing lists. Some discussion didn't go his way, he asserted "Tobin Maginnis *is* Linux certification," and went away. 3. The tests are fluff. 4. They keep spamming me. Kurt ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Possible virus
On Fri, Jul 27, 2001 at 07:57:47PM -0700, Net Llama wrote: > > --- Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Net Llama wrote: > > > Then why are you so afraid of opening it? > > > > Because the damned thing might end up in a non functioning binary > > which takes up HD space. > > Oh, but the email that it came with, that you downloaded, somehow isn't > taking up the very same exact amount of HD space? Please give me > directions to your alternate dimension. Life sounds quite ideal there. Geez, Lonnie. Who peed in your cornflakes this morning? ;-) I suppose the message might be in an IMAP store, in which case he has not necessarily downloaded the message. Just a thought. Maybe not even a good one. Kurt ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: RH 7.1 /boot directory. Info please
On Sat, Jul 28, 2001 at 04:24:39PM +1130, Mike Andrew wrote: > the following TWO non obvious files exist in my /boot folder. Can someone > shed a little light on them for me? > > > ONE: > > kernel.h -> kernel.h-2.4.3 > kernel.h-2.4.3 > > these were introduced at the 2.4.3 update it was not supplied on the distro's > cd at 2.4.2 That's not true, at least not here. I have their 2.4.2 twins installed on a box here. They are part of the kernel-headers package: $ rpm -qf /boot/kernel.h-2.4.2 kernel-headers-2.4.2 > The contents should be self explanatory, but, I can find no script that does > this, and I don't know what the contents would be subsequently used for I'm guessing the files, or, rather, their contents, are used by Red Hat-specific tools, perhaps by the RHN utilities (up2date, etc.). > vmlinuX-> > vmlinuZ-> > > vmlinuz is a modularised, non- multi processing kernel. ( I hate the word > SMP, too confusing). Both are approx the same size, and apart from booting > the damn thing, what would vmlinuX be? Beats heck out of me. I'm only using Fuscia Fedora to finish a couple of projects, then I'm off to Slackware. K ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: fine. no more orbl
On Sun, Jul 29, 2001 at 09:17:51PM -0600, Collins Richey wrote: > > Now I'll get bitchy. > > > 1. You provided no warning for this unilateral action. Nobody has a clue By long tradition, system administrators are free to do as they see fit with the system(s) they administer. While it may have been more courteous to users to have provided some warning in advance, I maintain that you are out of line to complain about the unilateral action because, bottom line, you get to use, for free and without strings, a service someone else provides. I know you know this, but perhaps it helps to be reminded. Eh? > when they get a "return address denied by mail service" message. I tried > unsubscribing and resubscribing, but that did no good. The icing on the The mail headers provided all of the information you needed. Doug is right, too, if an ISP doesn't close an open mail relay, even though they are not now a spam source, they *will* eventually become one. Code Red should remind everyone how easy it is to scan a range of addresses. It only takes about 10 more lines of code to scan every port on an address for one that can be probed more completely for potential exploit. Kurt ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: procmail question
On Mon, Jul 30, 2001 at 07:00:40AM -0400, Douglas J. Hunley wrote: > on a system with procmail as the LDA, which gets executed first, > /etc/procmailrc or $HOME/.procmailrc ? > thanks /etc/procmailrc. ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Screen capture
On Tue, Jul 31, 2001 at 12:29:52AM -0400, Joel Hammer wrote: > I am getting daft but I can't seem to use xv to grab a screen which has > multiple open windows on it. It just give me the window the cursor is in. > My attempts to grab a rectangle don't work well across several screens. > Any insight appreciated. Try xwd instead. It will grab the whole screen, I believe: $ xwd -screen | convert - dump.jpeg Grabs the root window, pipes the output to convert, which reads its stdin and dumps the result in dump.jpeg. Kurt ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: I have returned
On Tue, Jul 31, 2001 at 03:43:20PM +1000, Keith Antoine wrote: > Sorry but I am back <|;-00.Did 4630 km wothout leaving > my home state, and now feel like a stunned mullet after a final drive of > 1150 yesterday and today. Had a magnificent time and now need to d/l the > photos and work on them and get them up online. Got as high as I could, > north with a conventional car, before turning back. > > Shorts, thongs and a singlet were the order of the day. Welcome back. The thought of seeing you in a thong makes me shudder and sends a chill down my spine, though. ;-) Kurt ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Testing, ignore
In the last episode, we heard Auyeung at Technet say: > Wondering how many of us would just delete the mail when we see the subject > line saying > "testing -- ignore " ? Evidently, not many. ;-) Kurt ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
RE: FTP and freesco (solved)
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tim Wunder > Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 6:55 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: FTP and freesco (solved) > > > I know, don't respond to your own posts (especially if nobody > cares). But if > we can talk about Keith Antoine's thongs, a reply to my own > post sould be OK. Well, it wasn't his thongs we were talking about so much as his, well, um, uh... > Who knows? Someone might find it on the archive and get some > use out of it... That's the spirit. Actually, it is fodder for a quick Step-by-Step. ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Centering a postscript document
In the last episode, we heard Joel Hammer say: > Well, I have RTFM on convert, including the home page for ImageMagick, and > can't even begin to see how to do this simple thing. I don't want to emboss, > add texture, shear, etc. any image. > All I want to do is take a postscript file printed by quattropro and get it centered > on a page. Sounds simple but it is too much for me. I'd use something like enscript with the appropriate incantations to center it as required plus the option to write the output to a file. Kurt ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Volume Control in Realplayer8:SOLVED (Blame TakeConsole)
In the last episode, we heard Mike Andrew say: > > why does yahoo keep telling me I am a failure? I know that. Reminder, perhaps? ;-) Kurt ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Screen capture
In the last episode, we heard Ronnie Gauthier say: > Looks like I'm having tennis shoe for breakfast :-( Yum, yum! My favorite. K ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
RE: Header Files
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Chris Kassopulo > Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 7:15 AM > To: Linux Users > Subject: Header Files > > > Greetings, > > Anyone know where I can snatch a copy of the header files for > kernel 2.4.4 without downloading the whole enchilada? An RPM named kernel-headers, perhaps? You DO NOT want to use kernel headers that do not match your running kernel. Kurt ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
RE: NIC Addresses
In the last episode, Jason Joines told us: > Is there a way to obtain the IP address associated with a given > NIC address? I have used arping to go the other way but > haven't found > anything that does this. Doesn't RARP (reverse ARP) do this? Kurt ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Strange file.
In the last episode, we heard Lee say: > Still haven't found a way to remove my delinquent Win file. But, net > lama was right. Something else was devouring my hd space. Got rid of it > with $ cleandir -a +365 /home/user. Now have 45% of my hd available. A > definate improvement over 2%. What's the output of "lsattr" on that file? Or have we been here already? Kurt -- Big M, Little M, many mumbling mice Are making midnight music in the moonlight, Mighty nice! ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
RE: wu-ftpd and session limit per ip
Linuxism Chang asked: > Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 2:13 AM > To: linux-users > Subject: wu-ftpd and session limit per ip > > > Is it possible to limit each IP to login wu-ftps once only at any > time? Yes. See the host-limit directive for /etc/ftpaccess. From the man page: host-limit Limit to simultaneous connections per host IP address at times , displaying if the user is denied access. Limit check is performed at login time only. If multiple "host- limit" commands can apply to the current session, the first applicable one is used. Failing to define a valid limit, or a limit of -1, is equivalent to unlimited. is in same format as the times in the UUCP L.sys file. Kurt ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: The Worm: How you doin'?
In the last episode, we heard dep say: > On Friday 03 August 2001 06:26 pm, Lee wrote: > | Let's not forget that RedmonLinux is just down the street. > > tough. Collateral damage. ;-) Kurt -- flytrap n. [rare] See firewall machine. ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: /tmp full
In the last episode, we heard Mark Heinrich say: > I am unable to start KDE because my /tmp is full. I deleted the files that > I thought I could and there are only two or three left but I am still > getting an error that my /tmp is full. How can I see how much space /tmp > has allocated and how much is free? How can I increase the amount of space > /tmp has? TIA Space usage: df -h /tmp du -s /tmp What's using /tmp? lsof +d /tmp lsof +D /tmp KUrt -- The philosopher's treatment of a question is like the treatment of an illness. -- Wittgenstein. ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: CD burning: request for test was Re: usb card reader
In the last episode, we heard Mike Andrew say: > > this is the crux of the matter Kantoine, sybil is kernel 2.4.x and I need it > confirmed that append= is NOT needed (after all) in a 2.2.x kernel. There has > to be a better (tm) way of doing thingz. "append=" is not required. K ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Linux-Mandrake 8.0 messenger
In the last episode, we heard Mike Andrew say: > On Thursday 09 August 2001 21:59, joshua brow wrote: > > For attn Mike Andrews, > > > Huh? What did I do? Good grief, there's simply no telling what you've done this time. Kurt -- Ideas don't stay in some minds very long because they don't like solitary confinement. ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: help with printing pdf files
In the last episode, we heard Mike Andrew say: > can someone help me please. if i try and print (via ghostview) to my > laserjet, the printer just blinks at me. I have no trouble printing in > general, just (apparently) massaged postrcrpt files. When a printer winks at you, be afraid, be very afraid. > i thought enscript passed thru postcript as is? I've had no trouble. Anything interesting in the log or from lpc? Then again, I only use enscript for sending text to a Postscript. What about plain old "lpr my_pdf_file.ps". This works for me. Kurt -- Serfs up! -- Spartacus ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
RE: multiple pppd
> sir, in the interface name "ppp0", > "ppp" is the deivce type, what is "0"? > port number? device alias? > that could aid my search :) The interface number. If you have five PPP interfaces, they would be numbered ppp0, ppp1, ppp2, ppp3, and ppp4. > and how could you use ifconfig to change ppp0 to ppp1 after ppp0 > was up? I did come across asolution by accident while playing > with pppoe and dial-out pppd. I'm not sure you would. ppp1 refers to a different interface than ppp0. I have two NICs, eth0 and eth1, and getting them confused or forcing one to be the other would cause a great deal of weeping, wailing, and gnashing of teeth. Kurt ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: DNS log question (BIND)
In the last episode, we heard Federico Voges say: > Hi! > > Can anyone tell me the meaning of these messages?? > > Aug 11 07:12:44 drakis named[30669]: Lame server on '53.190.51.200.in-addr.arpa' (in >'51.200.in-addr.arpa'?): [200.0.193.98].53 'XANADU.SUR.TELINTAR.COM.AR' > Aug 11 07:14:48 drakis named[30669]: bad referral (23.192.200.in-addr.arpa !< >208/28.23.192.200.in-addr.arpa) from [200.192.23.214].53 This is a FAQ. The BIND FAQ at http://www.isc.org/ answers it very nicely. Kurt ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: easy ftp
In the last episode, we heard markh say: > Here's a newbie question for you: I've been ftp'ing files using > Netscape file by file. How do I get a whole directory at once? The > reason I'm asking is that I'd like to upgrade to XFree 4.1, KDE > 2.1.2, and sometime soon kernal 2.4.5 (I'm running a stock 2.2.14 > from eD2.4) TIA With Nutscrape, you don't. ncftp lets you do "get dirname" and grab the entire directory. gftp and KDE's equivalent graphical ftp client (I forget its name) do the same. Kurt -- To our sweethearts and wives. May they never meet. -- 19th century toast ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Question on script
In the last episode, we heard [EMAIL PROTECTED] say: > I have a small script that pings my ISP every so often so the ISP > doesn't shut my server connection down for lack of activity. The script > is as follows > > #!/bin/sh > ping -i 600 wvi.com>/tmp/pinglog.txt > > On my desktop I have set up an icon to start the script called pingit. > The execute line is > > /root/pingit &. Lose the period, if it's there. I don't think it is necessary to run it in the background, either. Moreover, you need to do something with stderr: ping -i 600 wvi.com > /tmp/pinglog.txt 2> /tmp/pingerr.txt The other problem is that ping must run in a terminal, so create the shortcut to run in a terminal (I believe there's a checkbox for this purpose). > !pingit & What's with the "!"? > I get an error msg that has to do with the '&' > > If I try to run it with just !pingit, it says that there is no such command. Right. The script is named "pingit" not "!pingit". Try: ./pingit The shell has a special meaning for "!". Kurt -- QOTD: "It's not the despair... I can stand the despair. It's the hope." ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: test-please ignore
In the last episode, we heard easwari say: > test Note the date: "Thu, Jan 01, 1998." Kurt -- ... relaxed in the manner of a man who has no need to put up a front of any kind. -- John Ball, "Mark One: the Dummy" ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
[veering OT]Re: test-please ignore
In the last episode, we heard Michael Scottaline say: > On Sun, 12 Aug 2001 18:30:27 -0600 > Kurt Wall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> insightfully noted: > > KW> In the last episode, we heard easwari say: > KW> > test > KW> > KW> Note the date: "Thu, Jan 01, 1998." > KW> > KW> Kurt > === > Wow!! Even snail mail *might* have been faster, no Kurt??? > Mike Our wagon train based networking is faster. ;-) K -- Q: What's yellow, and equivalent to the Axiom of Choice? A: Zorn's Lemon. ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Question on script
In the last episode, we heard [EMAIL PROTECTED] say: > Thanks Kurt. > > That fixed things. Jep. K ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users