Re: Sendmail Masquerading Question
On Wed, 13 Feb 2002 22:43:41 -0500 begin Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth: [snip] But no matter what combination of DM / CM / CG (shooting wildly at then end) I cannot prevent it from mailing out [EMAIL PROTECTED] when I send from the sendmail box. Which of course bounces as domain doesn't exist. Remove the CG item(s). You need: DMmarchak.ca FEATURE(masquerade_envelope) (this goes in your .mc file, then rebuild w/ m4) you can always test: sendmail -bt /tryflags hs /try esmtp [EMAIL PROTECTED] /try local [EMAIL PROTECTED] (all should resolve completely (and finally) to [EMAIL PROTECTED]) CtrlD to quit. Ciao, David A. Bandel -- Focus on the dream, not the competition. -- Nemesis Racing Team motto Internet (H323) phone: 206.28.187.30 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Sendmail Masquerading Question
On Wed, 13 Feb 2002, Ian wrote: I think it was either Kurt or you who said to add set hostname = marchak.homeip.net to my .muttrc file...which I did. But when mail arrives at the other end, mutt has changed it to marchak.homeip.net, but there's something in the header, I think it's the fact that in the header of the email contains Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] is what is causing the other servers to reject because a direct cut and paste of the From info (from the same header) is From: Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED] You need to setup masquerading for the envelope and the header, and you can also use genericstable to rewrite the From:. If you take a look at Linux Journal's site there's a wrieup I did on a sendmail setup like this that I've used successfully at a manufacturing plant where several folks were masqued behind one internet account. I do the same thing here and run 4 seperate accounts for my various identitities. If you need more details, holler. Stew Benedict ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Sendmail Masquerading Question
Stew Benedict wrote: On Wed, 13 Feb 2002, Ian wrote: I think it was either Kurt or you who said to add set hostname = marchak.homeip.net to my .muttrc file...which I did. But when mail arrives at the other end, mutt has changed it to marchak.homeip.net, but there's something in the header, I think it's the fact that in the header of the email contains Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] is what is causing the other servers to reject because a direct cut and paste of the From info (from the same header) is From: Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED] You need to setup masquerading for the envelope and the header, and you can also use genericstable to rewrite the From:. If you take a look at Linux Journal's site there's a wrieup I did on a sendmail setup like this that I've used successfully at a manufacturing plant where several folks were masqued behind one internet account. I've tucked away yours and David's posts...will have a look-see tonight. I think the link is: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=4539 in case anyone else is interested. I do the same thing here and run 4 seperate accounts for my various identitities. You know, a few trips to a good doctor, and you can maybe whittle it down to one identity. ;-) -- Linux SxS [http://sxs.homeip.net/] ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Sendmail Masquerading Question
OK, Followed Doug's SxS step and produced in about an hour or less, a fully functioning sendmail. All but the tweaking...which has turned out to be far less satisfying. From mail clients on other hosts on my home network, email composed in say netscape goes out with the From values set (in netscape) staying as is, and all seems to be working OK. Whenever I send mail from the sendmail machine, which is behind a firewall w/ port forwarding, the address is always [EMAIL PROTECTED] which only exists in my little network...although I have the marchak.ca domain hosted outside, the only official/external NS records are www.marchak.ca and marchak.ca. So, domain masquerading sounded like what I was looking for. I have a domain through dyndns.org, which I put in /etc/mail/local-host-names and I can accept mail for marchak.homeip.net...cool. What I wanted to do was have mail sent from [EMAIL PROTECTED] (which is what it would be when I am logged in locally to the box with sendmail running) to be changed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have a imaps server running and I want to have all my mail bounced to sent to marchak.homeip.net so I can do away with outside web mail and just run my services myself...so I have no mailbox size limits except the ones I put on myself...and because I can. But no matter what combination of DM / CM / CG (shooting wildly at then end) I cannot prevent it from mailing out [EMAIL PROTECTED] when I send from the sendmail box. Which of course bounces as domain doesn't exist. Can someone more sage in sendmail shed some light on my dim little picnic? -- Linux SxS [http://sxs.homeip.net/] ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Sendmail Masquerading Question
I do the same as you. But, I use mutt, which puts on the proper world accessible address (hammershome.com) instead of my private network name jhammer.org (which also exists on the net but its not mine.) All my mail is composed and sent on my box which runs sendmail and also serves as the firewall. Do you think mine works because by serendipity jhammer.org exists in the real world, too? Joel On Wed, Feb 13, 2002 at 10:43:41PM -0500, Ian wrote: OK, Followed Doug's SxS step and produced in about an hour or less, a fully functioning sendmail. All but the tweaking...which has turned out to be far less satisfying. From mail clients on other hosts on my home network, email composed in say netscape goes out with the From values set (in netscape) staying as is, and all seems to be working OK. Whenever I send mail from the sendmail machine, which is behind a firewall w/ port forwarding, the address is always [EMAIL PROTECTED] which only exists in my little network...although I have the marchak.ca domain hosted outside, the only official/external NS records are www.marchak.ca and marchak.ca. So, domain masquerading sounded like what I was looking for. I have a domain through dyndns.org, which I put in /etc/mail/local-host-names and I can accept mail for marchak.homeip.net...cool. What I wanted to do was have mail sent from [EMAIL PROTECTED] (which is what it would be when I am logged in locally to the box with sendmail running) to be changed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have a imaps server running and I want to have all my mail bounced to sent to marchak.homeip.net so I can do away with outside web mail and just run my services myself...so I have no mailbox size limits except the ones I put on myself...and because I can. But no matter what combination of DM / CM / CG (shooting wildly at then end) I cannot prevent it from mailing out [EMAIL PROTECTED] when I send from the sendmail box. Which of course bounces as domain doesn't exist. Can someone more sage in sendmail shed some light on my dim little picnic? -- Linux SxS [http://sxs.homeip.net/] ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Kernel sources question (Mandrake 8.1)
El Dom 10 Feb 2002 15:16, escribió: On Saturday 09 February 2002 08:36 pm, Jean Sagi warbled: Does anyone know where to get the kernel sources on the Mandrake 8.1 cd's? I would be a matter of looking at each cd under kernel. However at this yep! site http://ranger.dnsalias.com/mandrake/mandrake8.1/kernel/ You can download the latest mandrake version of kernel 2.4.17 full source file or the rpm version. In the process of doing so... -- Chucho ! [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Header include question
Mike The problem was not the library, I have LD_LIB set., it is the older stl headers being called before the STLport header with the sane name ie. vector list on. I have been using kdevelop 2, a real pig, I do not consider very good at all. Their build files have everything in them whether they are used or not. Making simple make file is not hard, they have made a feast of it. -- Rick Sivernell Dallas, Texas 75287 972 306-2296 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Caldera Open Linux eWorkStation 3.1 Registered Linux User .~. / v \ /( _ )\ ^ ^ In Linux we trust! ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Printing question
On Thu, 7 Feb 2002 21:41:44 -0500 Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This sort of sounds like a memory problem. Knowing nothing, I would venture that there may be a misunderstanding between your printer and your server over how much memory is available on the printer (making most of this up.) Also, what does top show during this long printing job? Can you just dump a postscript job to this printer? Or, can you first filter the job into a file, watching how long it takes, and then just cat the file to the printer? Joel On Fri, Feb 08, 2002 at 12:17:30PM -0500, Keith Antoine wrote: e On Thursday 07 February 2002 08:39 pm, Collins warbled: Is the following action a) typical of unix printing in general b) typical of cups c) typical of ghostscript interpreting ps for a laserjet d) result of screwed up config options Whenever I print something that is longer that a page or two, the printing trickles to the printer in page bursts, ie deliver a page to the printer, delay, deliver another page to the printer. On Windows the entire data stream gets dumped to the printer, and printing is continuous. All I can say Collins is I use cups and its no different to Windows style printing. After observing the behavior with top, it appears that the pagination is occurring back at the ghostscript level. Any idea how to alter this behavior? Cups doesn't appear to have any customizing options - only choice of dithering, page size, and banners. The cups admin menu doesn't have any options that I can find, either. laserjet 100 is a selectable option under cups admin, but I didn't see any options there either. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area WWTLRD? - ELX rc1 with xfce and sylpheed ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Printing question
Does the print file generation take a long time on the linux server or is the slowness in the transfer to the printer? You could just change lp=/tmp/outfile and time the output. You would first have to touch /tmp/outfile and run checkpc -f. Joel After observing the behavior with top, it appears that the pagination is occurring back at the ghostscript level. Any idea how to alter this behavior? Cups doesn't appear to have any customizing options - only choice of dithering, page size, and banners. The cups admin menu doesn't have any options that I can find, either. laserjet 100 is a selectable option under cups admin, but I didn't see any options there ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Kernel sources question (Mandrake 8.1)
Does anyone know where to get the kernel sources on the Mandrake 8.1 cd's? I used the software manager to find and install them but i cannot find them. I don´t know if it's some package i have to install, or they just dont come in any of the three cd's. I read the kernel-howto, but I just says to get linux-x.y.z files from some urls and it follows with the process of recompiling the kernel... I need them, not to recompile a new kernel. Just need source file (headers maybe) to compile the modules for install a PC-TEL winmodem my uncle has. I´m following the steps of Jan Stifter I found on Llama's SxS for 2.4 kernels and it states that you have to run ./configure with two parameters: --with-hal=pct789(Uncle's modem chipset ) --with-kernel-includes=/path/to/my/kernel-sources/include If you don't have your kernel sources at /usr/src/linux, specifiy your includes... That's it idon´t have them!! Any help would be very appreciated. Chucho! _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Kernel sources question (Mandrake 8.1)
On Sunday 10 Feb 2002 01:36, Jean Sagi wrote: Does anyone know where to get the kernel sources on the Mandrake 8.1 cd's? I used the software manager to find and install them but i cannot find them. I don´t know if it's some package i have to install, or they just dont come in any of the three cd's. I read the kernel-howto, but I just says to get linux-x.y.z files from some urls and it follows with the process of recompiling the kernel... I need them, not to recompile a new kernel. Just need source file (headers maybe) to compile the modules for install a PC-TEL winmodem my uncle has. I´m following the steps of Jan Stifter I found on Llama's SxS for 2.4 kernels and it states that you have to run ./configure with two parameters: --with-hal=pct789(Uncle's modem chipset ) --with-kernel-includes=/path/to/my/kernel-sources/include If you don't have your kernel sources at /usr/src/linux, specifiy your includes... That's it idon´t have them!! Any help would be very appreciated. kernel-source-2.4.8-26mdk.i586.rpm is on CD2 kernel-headers-2.4.8-26mdk.i586.rpm is on CD1 -- Peter Ruskin, Wrexham, Wales. AMD Athlon XP 1600+, 512MB RAM. Registered Linux User 219434. Mandrake Linux release 8.1 (Vitamin) Kernel 2.4.8-34.1mdk-win4lin, XFree86 4.1.0, patch level 21mdk. KDE: 2.2.2. Qt: 2.3.2. Up 1 day 4 hours 11 minutes. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Kernel sources question (Mandrake 8.1)
Tnx! a lot, I'll try it inmediatly. Chucho! Peter Ruskin wrote: On Sunday 10 Feb 2002 01:36, Jean Sagi wrote: Does anyone know where to get the kernel sources on the Mandrake 8.1 cd's? I used the software manager to find and install them but i cannot find them. I don´t know if it's some package i have to install, or they just dont come in any of the three cd's. I read the kernel-howto, but I just says to get linux-x.y.z files from some urls and it follows with the process of recompiling the kernel... I need them, not to recompile a new kernel. Just need source file (headers maybe) to compile the modules for install a PC-TEL winmodem my uncle has. I´m following the steps of Jan Stifter I found on Llama's SxS for 2.4 kernels and it states that you have to run ./configure with two parameters: --with-hal=pct789(Uncle's modem chipset ) --with-kernel-includes=/path/to/my/kernel-sources/include If you don't have your kernel sources at /usr/src/linux, specifiy your includes... That's it idon´t have them!! Any help would be very appreciated. kernel-source-2.4.8-26mdk.i586.rpm is on CD2 kernel-headers-2.4.8-26mdk.i586.rpm is on CD1 _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Kernel sources question (Mandrake 8.1)
I'd strongly recommend downloading the latest stable kernel source (2.4.17) from kernel.org and building that. --- Jean Sagi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know where to get the kernel sources on the Mandrake 8.1 cd's? I used the software manager to find and install them but i cannot find them. I don´t know if it's some package i have to install, or they just dont come in any of the three cd's. I read the kernel-howto, but I just says to get linux-x.y.z files from some urls and it follows with the process of recompiling the kernel... I need them, not to recompile a new kernel. Just need source file (headers maybe) to compile the modules for install a PC-TEL winmodem my uncle has. I´m following the steps of Jan Stifter I found on Llama's SxS for 2.4 kernels and it states that you have to run ./configure with two parameters: --with-hal=pct789(Uncle's modem chipset ) --with-kernel-includes=/path/to/my/kernel-sources/include If you don't have your kernel sources at /usr/src/linux, specifiy your includes... That's it idon´t have them!! = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Kernel sources question (Mandrake 8.1) [SOLVED]
El Sáb 09 Feb 2002 21:44, escribió: Funny... kernel-headers was installed, but kernel source was not... and urpmi didn't noticed. Trying to find with keyword kernel doesn`t show anything... rpm -i kernel-source installed ok! ./configure make make install modprobe ... insmod ... and voila! PC-TEL working on LInux!! Tnx! a lot, I'll try it inmediatly. Chucho! Peter Ruskin wrote: On Sunday 10 Feb 2002 01:36, Jean Sagi wrote: Does anyone know where to get the kernel sources on the Mandrake 8.1 cd's? I used the software manager to find and install them but i cannot find them. I don´t know if it's some package i have to install, or they just dont come in any of the three cd's. I read the kernel-howto, but I just says to get linux-x.y.z files from some urls and it follows with the process of recompiling the kernel... I need them, not to recompile a new kernel. Just need source file (headers maybe) to compile the modules for install a PC-TEL winmodem my uncle has. I´m following the steps of Jan Stifter I found on Llama's SxS for 2.4 kernels and it states that you have to run ./configure with two parameters: --with-hal=pct789(Uncle's modem chipset ) --with-kernel-includes=/path/to/my/kernel-sources/include If you don't have your kernel sources at /usr/src/linux, specifiy your includes... That's it idon´t have them!! Any help would be very appreciated. kernel-source-2.4.8-26mdk.i586.rpm is on CD2 kernel-headers-2.4.8-26mdk.i586.rpm is on CD1 _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Kernel sources question (Mandrake 8.1)
El Sáb 09 Feb 2002 21:56, escribió: Good idea... but for today is enough... 22:59 local time... And getting 2.4.17 by a 56k modem... ... others days need work too... ;) I'd strongly recommend downloading the latest stable kernel source (2.4.17) from kernel.org and building that. --- Jean Sagi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know where to get the kernel sources on the Mandrake 8.1 cd's? I used the software manager to find and install them but i cannot find them. I don´t know if it's some package i have to install, or they just dont come in any of the three cd's. I read the kernel-howto, but I just says to get linux-x.y.z files from some urls and it follows with the process of recompiling the kernel... I need them, not to recompile a new kernel. Just need source file (headers maybe) to compile the modules for install a PC-TEL winmodem my uncle has. I´m following the steps of Jan Stifter I found on Llama's SxS for 2.4 kernels and it states that you have to run ./configure with two parameters: --with-hal=pct789(Uncle's modem chipset ) --with-kernel-includes=/path/to/my/kernel-sources/include If you don't have your kernel sources at /usr/src/linux, specifiy your includes... That's it idon´t have them!! = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Kernel sources question (Mandrake 8.1)
On Saturday 09 February 2002 08:36 pm, Jean Sagi warbled: Does anyone know where to get the kernel sources on the Mandrake 8.1 cd's? I would be a matter of looking at each cd under kernel. However at this site http://ranger.dnsalias.com/mandrake/mandrake8.1/kernel/ You can download the latest mandrake version of kernel 2.4.17 full source file or the rpm version. -- Keith Antoine aka 'skippy' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Header include question
On Thu, 7 Feb 2002 06:04, Kurt Wall wrote: On, Wed, 6 Feb 2002 10:34:03 -0600, Rick Sivernell typed: [mondo snippage] Kurt I understand, I have a handle on it now. I just knew you were the one to ask. I really appreciate your help Thank you. Or, you could try the Kurtwerks(tm) all stars bobby dazzler. It saved me, the universe, made coffee and washed the dishes export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=some damn path It was *after* this bit of Kurwerks(tm) advice that I discovered I didn't need to fiddle with -I -i --nostdinc etc. My only complaint is that Kurt could have told me about it before I asked. -- http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Printing question
Is the following action a) typical of unix printing in general b) typical of cups c) typical of ghostscript interpreting ps for a laserjet d) result of screwed up config options Whenever I print something that is longer that a page or two, the printing trickles to the printer in page bursts, ie deliver a page to the printer, delay, deliver another page to the printer. On Windows the entire data stream gets dumped to the printer, and printing is continuous. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area WWTLRD? - ELX rc1 with xfce and sylpheed ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Printing question
On Thursday 07 February 2002 08:39 pm, Collins warbled: Is the following action a) typical of unix printing in general b) typical of cups c) typical of ghostscript interpreting ps for a laserjet d) result of screwed up config options Whenever I print something that is longer that a page or two, the printing trickles to the printer in page bursts, ie deliver a page to the printer, delay, deliver another page to the printer. On Windows the entire data stream gets dumped to the printer, and printing is continuous. All I can say Collins is I use cups and its no different to Windows style printing. -- Keith Antoine aka 'skippy' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Printing question
Same for me. CUPS works great. Michael Keith Antoine pontificated eloquently: On Thursday 07 February 2002 08:39 pm, Collins warbled: Is the following action a) typical of unix printing in general b) typical of cups c) typical of ghostscript interpreting ps for a laserjet d) result of screwed up config options Whenever I print something that is longer that a page or two, the printing trickles to the printer in page bursts, ie deliver a page to the printer, delay, deliver another page to the printer. On Windows the entire data stream gets dumped to the printer, and printing is continuous. All I can say Collins is I use cups and its no different to Windows style printing. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Printing question
On Thu, 7 Feb 2002 21:41:44 -0500 Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This sort of sounds like a memory problem. Knowing nothing, I would venture that there may be a misunderstanding between your printer and your server over how much memory is available on the printer (making most of this up.) Also, what does top show during this long printing job? Can you just dump a postscript job to this printer? Or, can you first filter the job into a file, watching how long it takes, and then just cat the file to the printer? Joel Good thoughts. I'll try when I have a chance. On Fri, Feb 08, 2002 at 12:17:30PM -0500, Keith Antoine wrote: e On Thursday 07 February 2002 08:39 pm, Collins warbled: Is the following action a) typical of unix printing in general b) typical of cups c) typical of ghostscript interpreting ps for a laserjet d) result of screwed up config options Whenever I print something that is longer that a page or two, the printing trickles to the printer in page bursts, ie deliver a page to the printer, delay, deliver another page to the printer. On Windows the entire data stream gets dumped to the printer, and printing is continuous. All I can say Collins is I use cups and its no different to Windows style printing. -- Keith Antoine aka 'skippy' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area WWTLRD? - ELX rc1 with xfce and sylpheed ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Header include question
Scribbling feverishly on February 05, Rick Sivernell managed to emit: List / Kurt if he is there I am having a small problem. I have the old stl headers being used before the new version. Would like to know if there is a enviro var that is set with the -I include files. I have a envir variables set set into my path but they are not seen unless they have no file by that name anywhere else. Any ideas how to get arounf this? I don't really understand what the problem is. Kurt -- Go to a movie tonight. Darkness becomes you. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Header include question
On Wed, 6 Feb 2002 08:32:44 -0500 Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scribbling feverishly on February 06, Rick Sivernell managed to emit: On Wed, 6 Feb 2002 07:58:04 -0500 Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scribbling feverishly on February 05, Rick Sivernell managed to emit: List / Kurt if he is there I am having a small problem. I have the old stl headers being used before the new version. Would like to know if there is a enviro var that is set with the -I include files. I have a envir variables set set into my path but they are not seen unless they have no file by that name anywhere else. Any ideas how to get arounf this? I don't really understand what the problem is. Kurt -- Kurt The header files and there sub directory files are not seen, if there is a corresponding file in the oldder header files in /usr/.. In Windows there is a envirment variable to set paths for headers. That way certain headers will be seen before others. Is there something similar in Linux/Unix. Or do I need to move my stlport stl library to /usr. Okay, now I understand. -I /some/dir should place specified headers at the front of the list; that is, the standard headers should be searched *after* directories specified with -I. However, you have to use -I- *before* -I because -I only looks for #include foo.h, not for #include foo.h. Bear in mind that -I directories are scanned left to right. You might also find it useful to use the -nostdinc option, which turns off searching the standard system directories for include files. The downside to this should be clear, though. Finally, use the -H option to tell GCC to print the names of the header files it is using. For more infomation, have a look at the Preprocessor Options and theDirectory Options nodes of the GCC info file. Kurt -- Kurt I understand, I have a handle on it now. You might also find it useful to use the -nostdinc option, which turns off searching the standard system directories for include files. The downside to this should be clear, though. yes, you are coorect here, not a wise idea, unless your situation requires it. I just knew you were the one to ask. I really appreciate your help Thank you. cheers -- Rick Sivernell Dallas, Texas 75287 972 306-2296 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Caldera Open Linux eWorkStation 3.1 Registered Linux User .~. / v \ /( _ )\ ^ ^ In Linux we trust! ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Comcast question: dynamic ip and hostname
I changed over to a dynamic ip from a static ip number with comcast recently. I got an ip number and ran nslookup against it to see what my new host name was, and it was: pcp361333pcs-udp079123uds.towson01.md.comcast.net Now, when I run nslookup against my ip number, which hasn't changed, I get: tow33dhcp1252.towson01.md.comcast.net I called comcast tech support but they were clueless about this. Or, better put, I was unable to make them appreciate my concerns. My major concern is to maintain my current ip number, which is reachable from anywhere on the internet as hammershome.com. SO, any comcast users here? Have you tried to reboot your machine to see if you maintain the same ip number. Have you tried to use the new hostname with the -h parameter with dhcpcd? Also, I would like to know if the new name is resolvable on the internet, so, would someone, NOT on the comcast network, kindly ping that name (tow33dhcp1252.towson01.md.comcast.net) and see if you get back: 68.33.4.228 ? Thanks, Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Comcast question: dynamic ip and hostname
She pings from 167.ville. On Sun, 3 Feb 2002 10:41:34 -0500 Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I changed over to a dynamic ip from a static ip number with comcast recently. I got an ip number and ran nslookup against it to see what my new host name was, and it was: pcp361333pcs-udp079123uds.towson01.md.comcast.net Now, when I run nslookup against my ip number, which hasn't changed, I get: tow33dhcp1252.towson01.md.comcast.net I called comcast tech support but they were clueless about this. Or, better put, I was unable to make them appreciate my concerns. My major concern is to maintain my current ip number, which is reachable from anywhere on the internet as hammershome.com. SO, any comcast users here? Have you tried to reboot your machine to see if you maintain the same ip number. Have you tried to use the new hostname with the -h parameter with dhcpcd? Also, I would like to know if the new name is resolvable on the internet, so, would someone, NOT on the comcast network, kindly ping that name(tow33dhcp1252.towson01.md.comcast.net) and see if you get back: 68.33.4.228 ? Thanks, Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Comcast question: dynamic ip and hostname
Previously, Joel Hammer chose to write: BTW, my current plan is, if I have to reboot, I will not run dhcpd and not ask to be reassigned an ip number. In effect, I will act like I have a static number. Afterall, they did give an infinite lease when they assigned my number to me. Has anyone tried this? Joel Hi Joel, Thru several re-boots of my router (opening and closing ports), my IP address has yet to change. I don't think you have to worry about using DHCP to get your IP address. It seems each cable modem gets a unique IP address that doesn't change. HTH, Tim -- Caldera eWorkstation 3.1, kernel 2.4.9, KDE 2.2.1, Xfree86 4.1.0 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Comcast question: dynamic ip and hostname
On Sunday 03 February 2002 07:41 am, Joel Hammer wrote: Also, I would like to know if the new name is resolvable on the internet, so, would someone, NOT on the comcast network, kindly ping that name (tow33dhcp1252.towson01.md.comcast.net) and see if you get back: 68.33.4.228 ? Thanks, Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. -- Ted Ozolins (VE7TVO) Westbank, B. C. PING tow33dhcp1252.towson01.md.comcast.net (68.33.4.228) from (me) : 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from tow33dhcp1252.towson01.md.comcast.net (68.33.4.228): icmp_seq=0 ttl=240 time=131.896 msec 64 bytes from tow33dhcp1252.towson01.md.comcast.net (68.33.4.228): icmp_seq=1 ttl=240 time=130.139 msec 64 bytes from tow33dhcp1252.towson01.md.comcast.net (68.33.4.228): icmp_seq=2 ttl=240 time=129.973 msec 64 bytes from tow33dhcp1252.towson01.md.comcast.net (68.33.4.228): icmp_seq=3 ttl=240 time=131.733 msec 64 bytes from tow33dhcp1252.towson01.md.comcast.net (68.33.4.228): icmp_seq=4 ttl=240 time=133.442 msec --- tow33dhcp1252.towson01.md.comcast.net ping statistics --- 5 packets transmitted, 5 packets received, 0% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max/mdev = 129.973/131.436/133.442/1.336 ms
Re: Comcast question: dynamic ip and hostname
Thanks everybody. It sounds like things are more or less like they were under the old @HOME arrangement, which is good. Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
xfce question
List In xfce can you put icons on the desktop like in kde2 does? I would like to set some icon shortcuts. xfce is great. cheers -- Rick Sivernell Dallas, Texas 75287 972 306-2296 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Caldera Open Linux eWorkStation 3.1 Registered Linux User .~. / v \ /( _ )\ ^ ^ In Linux we trust! ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: xfce question
--- Rick Sivernell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: List In xfce can you put icons on the desktop like in kde2 does? I would like to set some icon shortcuts. xfce is great. AFAIK, you can't place icons on the desktop, only in the control panel bar thingy. You can customize the mouse generated menu (left mouse button click) to include whatever you want in it. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: xfce question
On Fri, 1 Feb 2002 09:22:38 -0800 (PST) Net Llama [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Rick Sivernell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: List In xfce can you put icons on the desktop like in kde2 does? I would like to set some icon shortcuts. xfce is great. AFAIK, you can't place icons on the desktop, only in the control panel bar thingy. You can customize the mouse generated menu (left mouse button click) to include whatever you want in it. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. Lonnie That is cool, thanks. It was a thought, still like usin it -- Rick Sivernell Dallas, Texas 75287 972 306-2296 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Caldera Open Linux eWorkStation 3.1 Registered Linux User .~. / v \ /( _ )\ ^ ^ In Linux we trust! ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: xfce question
Previously, Net Llama chose to write: --- Rick Sivernell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: List In xfce can you put icons on the desktop like in kde2 does? I would like to set some icon shortcuts. xfce is great. AFAIK, you can't place icons on the desktop, only in the control panel bar thingy. You can customize the mouse generated menu (left mouse button click) to include whatever you want in it. You can iconify apps, which places them on the desktop as an icon, but there still open and running, I think. Probly not what he wants... Tim -- Caldera eWorkstation 3.1, kernel 2.4.9, KDE 2.2.1, Xfree86 4.1.0 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: xfce question
On Fri, 1 Feb 2002 10:36:43 -0600 Rick Sivernell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: List In xfce can you put icons on the desktop like in kde2 does? I would like to set some icon shortcuts. xfce is great. cheers -- Rick Sivernell ROX-filer is a good addition to XFce for desktop icons, etc. There was some chat a while back on the XFce list about incorporating it into to XFce, but haven't seen it mentioned lately. http://rox.sourceforge.net/rox_filer.php3 -- Put bounce and zoom in every step with keds! kids! keds! Chris Kassopulo _/\_ Linux User #199893 _/\_ Vector Linux ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: xfce question
On Fri, 1 Feb 2002 14:31:04 + Chris Kassopulo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 1 Feb 2002 10:36:43 -0600 Rick Sivernell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: List In xfce can you put icons on the desktop like in kde2 does? I would like to set some icon shortcuts. xfce is great. cheers -- Rick Sivernell ROX-filer is a good addition to XFce for desktop icons, etc. There was some chat a while back on the XFce list about incorporating it into to XFce, but haven't seen it mentioned lately. http://rox.sourceforge.net/rox_filer.php3 -- Put bounce and zoom in every step with keds! kids! keds! Chris Kassopulo _/\_ Linux User #199893 _/\_ Vector Linux ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. Chris Thanks I have now dl it and another req src-rpm. I will need to buld this later -- Rick Sivernell Dallas, Texas 75287 972 306-2296 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Caldera Open Linux eWorkStation 3.1 Registered Linux User .~. / v \ /( _ )\ ^ ^ In Linux we trust! ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: xfce question
On Fri, 1 Feb 2002 10:36:43 -0600, Rick Sivernell wrote: List In xfce can you put icons on the desktop like in kde2 does? I would like to set some icon shortcuts. xfce is great. cheers I used to run xfce and I had kde installed as well. I just started kfm up when X started. I put 'kfm ' in .Xclients. That put the icons that are in ~/Desktop on my desktop. I no longer use xfce and don't have kde installed either, but I'm pretty sure that is what I did. Anita ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: xfce question
On Fri, 1 Feb 2002 22:01:50 + (UTC), Anita Lewis wrote: On Fri, 1 Feb 2002 10:36:43 -0600, Rick Sivernell wrote: List In xfce can you put icons on the desktop like in kde2 does? I would like to set some icon shortcuts. xfce is great. cheers I used to run xfce and I had kde installed as well. I just started kfm up when X started. I put 'kfm ' in .Xclients. That put the icons that are in ~/Desktop on my desktop. I no longer use xfce and don't have kde installed either, but I'm pretty sure that is what I did. Anita I just had to check this out. I have Gnome installed and am using icewm-gnome. So I tried putting gmc in .Xclients. Then I remembered that I'm now using .xsession for that kind of thing; so I put it in .xsession. Then I just had to drag and drop to place some icons. After that I had to find out where they are stored, because ~/Desktop seems to be just for KDE. I found them in ~/.gnome-desktop/ So now I have icons again - well at least folder icons at this point. Anita ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: xfce question
On Fri, 1 Feb 2002 22:14:51 + (UTC) Anita Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 1 Feb 2002 22:01:50 + (UTC), Anita Lewis wrote: On Fri, 1 Feb 2002 10:36:43 -0600, Rick Sivernell wrote: List In xfce can you put icons on the desktop like in kde2 does? I would like to set some icon shortcuts. xfce is great. cheers I used to run xfce and I had kde installed as well. I just started kfm up when X started. I put 'kfm ' in .Xclients. That put the icons that are in ~/Desktop on my desktop. I no longer use xfce and don't have kde installed either, but I'm pretty sure that is what I did. Anita I just had to check this out. I have Gnome installed and am using icewm-gnome. So I tried putting gmc in .Xclients. Then I remembered that I'm now using .xsession for that kind of thing; so I put it in .xsession. Then I just had to drag and drop to place some icons. After that I had to find out where they are stored, because ~/Desktop seems to be just for KDE. I found them in ~/.gnome-desktop/ So now I have icons again - well at least folder icons at this point. Anita ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. Anita Interesting, I will look into that Thanks -- Rick Sivernell Dallas, Texas 75287 972 306-2296 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Caldera Open Linux eWorkStation 3.1 Registered Linux User .~. / v \ /( _ )\ ^ ^ In Linux we trust! ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: xfce question
On Fri, 1 Feb 2002 10:36:43 -0600 Rick Sivernell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: List In xfce can you put icons on the desktop like in kde2 does? I would like to set some icon shortcuts. xfce is great. No and never. Xfce is dedicated to keeping the bloat out. You can add icons to the popup menus that appear on the panel. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area WWTLRD? - FreeBSD 4.4 + xfce + sylpheed ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: xfce question
On Fri, 1 Feb 2002 16:25:53 -0700 Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 1 Feb 2002 10:36:43 -0600 Rick Sivernell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: List In xfce can you put icons on the desktop like in kde2 does? I would like to set some icon shortcuts. xfce is great. No and never. Xfce is dedicated to keeping the bloat out. You can add icons to the popup menus that appear on the panel. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area WWTLRD? - FreeBSD 4.4 + xfce + sylpheed Collins OK -- Rick Sivernell Dallas, Texas 75287 972 306-2296 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Caldera Open Linux eWorkStation 3.1 Registered Linux User .~. / v \ /( _ )\ ^ ^ In Linux we trust! ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
RE: Developer question
Use autoconf. Kurt -Original Message- From: Rick Sivernell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wed 1/30/2002 12:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Subject:Developer question List I am doing a programming project for a college class. My system and the development system are both Linux. The final build operation will be on BSD, I do not at this time knowe version. My question is, if I create the config Makefile stuff on linux, how much rework to make my stuff work on BSD. My code will be generic not X or gnu specific, but use the standard headers stlport. cheers -- Rick Sivernell Dallas, Texas 75287 972 306-2296 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Caldera Open Linux eWorkStation 3.1 Registered Linux User .~. / v \ /( _ )\ ^ ^ In Linux we trust! ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. winmail.dat
Re: Developer question
Rick, I've done lots of porting sporadically over the years and for the most part, they should port. Just be careful not to use any Linux specific features in your makefile and you should be all set. And even if your code was X window specific, X is on available on all *nix* platforms (provided that it's installed). BTW, what programming language are you using? C or C++ ? Let me know if you need any more help. Be glad to! List I am doing a programming project for a college class. My system and the development system are both Linux. The final build operation will be on BSD, I do not at this time knowe version. My question is, if I create the config Makefile stuff on linux, how much rework to make my stuff work on BSD. My code will be generic not X or gnu specific, but use the standard headers stlport. cheers = _ Susan Macchia mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ - Running Linux - because life is too short for reboots... __ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Developer question
On Wed, 30 Jan 2002 16:13:20 -0500 Wall, Kurt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Use autoconf. Kurt -Original Message- From: Rick Sivernell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wed 1/30/2002 12:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Subject: Developer question List I am doing a programming project for a college class. My system and the development system are both Linux. The final build operation will be on BSD, I do not at this time knowe version. My question is, if I create the config Makefile stuff on linux, how much rework to make my stuff work on BSD. My code will be generic not X or gnu specific, but use the standard headers stlport. cheers -- Rick Sivernell Dallas, Texas 75287 972 306-2296 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Caldera Open Linux eWorkStation 3.1 Registered Linux User .~. / v \ /( _ )\ ^ ^ In Linux we trust! ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. Kurt Susan Thanks for your input. Your anwsers were as I thought, just needed to make sure as I start on this assignment. I will be using C++. This is a programming assignment for an upper level course @ UNT. It is to be a web based front frame in a browser talking to a program to build the frams for display. Something a little new for me, but not at this time a hard challenge. Should be fun. A whole lot more than my Computer ethics class g. cheers -- Rick Sivernell Dallas, Texas 75287 972 306-2296 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Caldera Open Linux eWorkStation 3.1 Registered Linux User .~. / v \ /( _ )\ ^ ^ In Linux we trust! ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: ext3 on root partition question
Jerry McBride babbled on about: I've had the experience where a root system running ext3 was so clobbered that it had to be accessed via a boot floppy. The only rescue floppy I had on hand did not have an fsck thas was able to recover the ext3 system... Bingo... a big problem, yes? After upgrading the utils on the floppy, I was able to fsck.ext3 the partition in question and all data was recoverable. That was my point, sorry I wasn't clear enough in the begining. ah! ok. I see what you mean. I *thought* you menat the rescue floppy kernel didn't know ext3... I follow you now -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: Linux StepByStep - http://linux.nf /* * For moronic filesystems that do not allow holes in file. * We may have to extend the file. */ 2.4.0-test2 /usr/src/linux/fs/buffer.c ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: ext3 on root partition question
Jerry McBride babbled on about: That's correct. But my original post was to the effect of making people aware of a real bad gotcha is your RESCUE floppy wasn' ext3 aware. It can be very embarassing. :') ___ I still dont follow you Jerry. Embarassing how? It will work. I do it all the time. I have an ext2 boot flopy and regularly use it to boot an ext3 system. where's the issue? -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: Linux StepByStep - http://linux.nf I don't pirate MS software. It wouldn't be worth the price.. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: ext3 on root partition question
I still dont follow you Jerry. Embarassing how? It will work. I do it all the time. I have an ext2 boot flopy and regularly use it to boot an ext3 system. I've had the experience where a root system running ext3 was so clobbered that it had to be accessed via a boot floppy. The only rescue floppy I had on hand did not have an fsck thas was able to recover the ext3 system... Bingo... a big problem, yes? After upgrading the utils on the floppy, I was able to fsck.ext3 the partition in question and all data was recoverable. That was my point, sorry I wasn't clear enough in the begining. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: ext3 on root partition question
On Wed, 23 Jan 2002 13:34:15 -0500 Douglas J Hunley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jerry McBride babbled on about: I wasn't able to fsck and ext3 partition with old ext2 utils... Quite embarassing. if you're running ext3 you need a recent e2fsprogs and util-linux anyway. I kinda thought that this was a given. That's correct. But my original post was to the effect of making people aware of a real bad gotcha is your RESCUE floppy wasn' ext3 aware. It can be very embarassing. :') ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
ext3 on root partition question
Hi all, I have converted my all my filesystems to ext3. I am running SuSE 7.3. But I am concerned that my root partition did not get converted. Last night I had a power outage and on reboot, fschk was run on my root partition. The boot screen showed the following message: /dev/hda2 not cleanly unmounted, check forced Now all the other partitions looked like they were using the journal files because for each partition, I saw a message stating (something to the effect) that the journal file was being checked. Once the system was booted, when I do a 'ps | grep jour' I see only 4 entries and would expect 5 for my 5 partitions: root50 1 0 06:44 ?00:00:00 [kjournald] root51 1 0 06:44 ?00:00:00 [kjournald] root52 1 0 06:44 ?00:00:00 [kjournald] root53 1 0 06:44 ?00:00:00 [kjournald] Below is my fstab: /dev/hda2 / ext3defaults 1 1 /dev/hdb5 /usrext3defaults 1 2 /dev/hdb1 /usr/srcext3defaults 1 2 /dev/hdb6 /optext3defaults 1 2 /dev/hdb7 /home ext3defaults 1 2 /dev/hdb2 swapswappri=42 0 0 /dev/cdrecorder /media/cdrecorder autoro,noauto,user,exec 0 0 /dev/cdrom /media/cdromautoro,noauto,user,exec 0 0 /dev/fd0/media/floppy autonoauto,user,sync 0 0 devpts /dev/ptsdevpts defaults 0 0 proc/proc procdefaults 0 0 usbdevfs/proc/bus/usb usbdevfsdefaults,noauto 0 0 /dev/hda1 has a test version of SuSE7.3 which I can boot into. I used this to convert /dev/hda2 (my production root partion). I am running with the stock SuSE 7.3 kernel and haven't yet applied any security updates. When I try and rerun tunejfs on /dev/hda2 I get the following message: tune2fs 1.24a (02-Sep-2001) The filesystem already has a journal. So it should be ext3, right? Can anyone help unravel the mystery? TIA! = _ Susan Macchia mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ - Running Linux - because life is too short for reboots... __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: ext3 on root partition question
The output from mount is: /home/susan/Compaq/backup mount /dev/hda2 on / type ext3 (rw) proc on /proc type proc (rw) devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,mode=0620,gid=5) /dev/hdb5 on /usr type ext3 (rw) /dev/hdb1 on /usr/src type ext3 (rw) /dev/hdb6 on /opt type ext3 (rw) /dev/hdb7 on /home type ext3 (rw) shmfs on /dev/shm type shm (rw) usbdevfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbdevfs (rw) So it looks like its ext3. But why would fsck be run on bootup? Douglass Hunley wrote: Susan Macchia babbled on about: Once the system was booted, when I do a 'ps | grep jour' I see only 4 entries and would expect 5 for my 5 partitions: So it should be ext3, right? Can anyone help unravel the mystery? what does 'mount' say that root is mounted as? -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: Linux StepByStep - http://linux.nf = _ Susan Macchia mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ - Running Linux - because life is too short for reboots... __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
OTreally stupid question about HTML
how would one construct an HREF to a specific newsgroup on a specific news server? I know HREF=news:news.somewhere.net; will pull up the configured newsreader and attach to news.somewhere.net, but how do I get the newsreader to automagically load a specific newsgroup on news.somewhere.net? thanks -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: Linux StepByStep - http://linux.nf Imagine if every Thursday your shoes exploded if you tied them the usual way. This happens to us all the time with computers, and nobody thinks of complaining. -- Jeff Raskin, interviewed in Doctor Dobb's Journal ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OTreally stupid question about HTML
Douglas J Hunley wrote: how would one construct an HREF to a specific newsgroup on a specific news server? I know HREF=news:news.somewhere.net; will pull up the configured newsreader and attach to news.somewhere.net, but how do I get the newsreader to automagically load a specific newsgroup on news.somewhere.net? thanks A HREF=news://news.somewhere.net/stepsite.somelists.freebsd-users; ...replace with appropriate values. The actual syntax looks something like this in full: newsURL= scheme : [ news-site ] [ refbygroup | message ] scheme = news | snews | nntp news-site = // site / refbygroup = group [ / messageno [ - messageno ] ] message= local-part @ domain as you can see, it's possible to be quite granular in you addressing, say automatically point them at the news server and a specific message number. -- Linux SxS [http://sxs.webhop.net/] ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OTreally stupid question about HTML
Ian wrote: Douglas J Hunley wrote: how would one construct an HREF to a specific newsgroup on a specific news server? I know HREF=news:news.somewhere.net; will pull up the configured newsreader and attach to news.somewhere.net, but how do I get the newsreader to automagically load a specific newsgroup on news.somewhere.net? thanks Forgot something. All the gory details: http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2396.txt ...has anyone seen one of these (an RFC) that doesn't hurt to read? -- Linux SxS [http://sxs.webhop.net/] ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
RE: question for security gurus
got try www.sans.org. They often list the most common security holes in companies and weaknesses in desktops, poliocies, and a whole bunch of stuff. I took a security class with company (online courses that is) and this is a top notch site with excellent classes if you are serious. there prices are not terribly bad. Lots of good articles on various types of weaknesses. roger -Original Message- From: Douglas J Hunley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 5:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: question for security gurus If I was to start some side consulting as a Network Security Analyzer, what tools/steps/methodologies would everyone recommend? Opensource would be best, but I'm open to anything. I've made some recommendations to my firm (who wants to go down this path) but I thought I'd get some more info from those in the know. Basically, they want to be able to approach company XYZ, and sell them a Security Assesment service. What machines are exposed to Internet, what holes they have, what services are available to whom on the Internet. Can we DoS you, DNS poisoning, zone xfers, known holes, etc.. thanks in advance! -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: Linux StepByStep - http://linux.nf printk(MASQUERADE: No route: Rusty's brain broke!\n); 2.4.3 linux/net/ipv4/netfilter/ipt_MASQUERADE.c ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Sendmail question
Is there a straightforward way to have e-mail sent to nonexistent addresses forwarded to root or another account? We would like to be able to collect these to possibly forward to the users. I know we could set up aliases for deleted former users and maybe for incorrect spellings we could anticipate, but that wouldn't get all possibilities. Any suggestion would be appreciated. Stuart Biggerstaff Linda Hall Library 5109 Cherry Kansas City, MO 64110 Phone: (816) 926-8748 (800) 662-1545 x748 FAX:(816) 926-8785 URL:www.lindahall.org ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Sendmail question
On Tuesday 08 January 2002 17:34 pm, Stuart Biggerstaff wrote: Is there a straightforward way to have e-mail sent to nonexistent addresses forwarded to root or another account? We would like to be able to collect these to possibly forward to the users. I know we could set up aliases for deleted former users and maybe for incorrect spellings we could anticipate, but that wouldn't get all possibilities. Any suggestion would be appreciated. If you're running procmail, just put in a recipe at the end of your list of recipes to dump it to a file. -- ++ + Bruce S. Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bellaire, MI 01/08/02 17:47 + ++ Don't be afraid to take a big step. You can't cross a chasm in two small jumps. - David Lloyd George. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Sendmail question
On Tue, Jan 08, 2002 at 04:34:42PM -0600, Stuart Biggerstaff wrote: Is there a straightforward way to have e-mail sent to nonexistent addresses forwarded to root or another account? We would like to be able to collect these to possibly forward to the users. I don't do sendmail, but did see an /etc/maildomains file on a system I did some other work on which provides for mapping mail for multiple domains with default addresses if there isn't a match. The file for this is in the format: [EMAIL PROTECTED] some_valid_email_address [EMAIL PROTECTED] another_valid_email_address example.com an_address_where_anything_else_goes. I thought this was a pretty neat way to handle virtual domains, and implemented this in smail-3.2 using the rewrite driver. This probably isn't the best way to handle several thousand primary addresses on a system though. It lends itself best to virtual domains with limited numbers of users. This could be used though if one has a capability similar to smail's smart_user variable which will forward unknown local addresses to another mail server for handling (or another instance of the server on the same machine, but listening on another NIC). I know we could set up aliases for deleted former users and maybe for incorrect spellings we could anticipate, but that wouldn't get all possibilities. Deleted or expired are fairly easy to handle by aliasing the address so that they get forwarded to a script that returns some useful message. Bill -- INTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC UUCP: camco!bill PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX:(206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 URL: http://www.celestial.com/ ``Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority it is time to pause and reflect.'' -- Mark Twain ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Sendmail question
On Jan 8 Stuart Biggerstaff was heard saying: -Is there a straightforward way to have e-mail sent to nonexistent addresses -forwarded to root or another account? We would like to be able to collect -these to possibly forward to the users. *** Yes there is: Use the /etc/mail/virtusertable and enter one line er address to redirect: # Catch all users on a domain # --- @..xxxerror:unavailable This domain is not in use anymore # Catch specific user # --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] And so on... Compile the file with makemap hash /etc/mail/virtusertable /etc/mail/virtusertable Cheers, Zoran. -- Software is like sex, It's better when it's Free... -- Linus Torvalds ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Sendmail question
Thanks to the people who responded for their ideas. Where I think we will go with this is indeed using tools for virtual domains. In particular, if we can be sure doing so will leave mail to valid addresses untouched, making an entry to virtusertable sounds like the approach that will have least impact. I may do a test system to verify. At 04:19 PM 1/8/02 -0800, Bill Campbell wrote: On Tue, Jan 08, 2002 at 04:34:42PM -0600, Stuart Biggerstaff wrote: Is there a straightforward way to have e-mail sent to nonexistent addresses forwarded to root or another account? We would like to be able to collect these to possibly forward to the users. I don't do sendmail, but did see an /etc/maildomains file on a system I did some other work on which provides for mapping mail for multiple domains with default addresses if there isn't a match. The file for this is in the format: [EMAIL PROTECTED] some_valid_email_address [EMAIL PROTECTED] another_valid_email_address example.com an_address_where_anything_else_goes. I thought this was a pretty neat way to handle virtual domains, and implemented this in smail-3.2 using the rewrite driver. This probably isn't the best way to handle several thousand primary addresses on a system though. It lends itself best to virtual domains with limited numbers of users. We have probably just over a hundred users--but LOTS of mail, and more than a few really large messages. This could be used though if one has a capability similar to smail's smart_user variable which will forward unknown local addresses to another mail server for handling (or another instance of the server on the same machine, but listening on another NIC). We ideally want undeliverable mail to go to root, or (better) another single address on the same server. I know we could set up aliases for deleted former users and maybe for incorrect spellings we could anticipate, but that wouldn't get all possibilities. Deleted or expired are fairly easy to handle by aliasing the address so that they get forwarded to a script that returns some useful message. True, but it means about three years worth of former employees, some of whom we've probably forgotten. And then there is the issue of senders guessing e-mail addresses--while the way we assign addresses is probably not exactly intuitive for some of our colleagues. Bill Stuart Biggerstaff Linda Hall Library 5109 Cherry Kansas City, MO 64110 Phone: (816) 926-8748 (800) 662-1545 x748 FAX:(816) 926-8785 URL:www.lindahall.org ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
question for security gurus
If I was to start some side consulting as a Network Security Analyzer, what tools/steps/methodologies would everyone recommend? Opensource would be best, but I'm open to anything. I've made some recommendations to my firm (who wants to go down this path) but I thought I'd get some more info from those in the know. Basically, they want to be able to approach company XYZ, and sell them a Security Assesment service. What machines are exposed to Internet, what holes they have, what services are available to whom on the Internet. Can we DoS you, DNS poisoning, zone xfers, known holes, etc.. thanks in advance! -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: Linux StepByStep - http://linux.nf printk(MASQUERADE: No route: Rusty's brain broke!\n); 2.4.3 linux/net/ipv4/netfilter/ipt_MASQUERADE.c ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: question for security gurus
On January 07, Douglas J Hunley enlightened our ignorance thusly: If I was to start some side consulting as a Network Security Analyzer, what tools/steps/methodologies would everyone recommend? Opensource would be best, but I'm open to anything. I've made some recommendations to my firm (who wants to go down this path) but I thought I'd get some more info from those in the know. Basically, they want to be able to approach company XYZ, and sell them a Security Assesment service. What machines are exposed to Internet, what holes they have, what services are available to whom on the Internet. Can we DoS you, DNS poisoning, zone xfers, known holes, etc.. I would start with nmap, then proceed to more aggressive probes such as Saint or Satan. In the process, consider password guessing programs, packet sniffers, and some of the common root kits. K -- You will receive a legacy which will place you above want. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: question for security gurus
Kurt Wall babbled on about: I would start with nmap, then proceed to more aggressive probes such as Saint or Satan. In the process, consider password guessing programs, packet sniffers, and some of the common root kits. are Saint/Satan still worth it? Doesn't Nessus cover them? -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: Linux StepByStep - http://linux.nf printk(What? oldfid != cii-c_fid. Call 911.\n); 2.4.3 linux/fs/coda/cnode.c ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Lilo question (HW-RAID5)/Error
I have RH7.2 installed on a Compaq Dual-PPro with HW RAID5. It's an old box (200MHz for each proc) but it seems to run ok. I am attempting to update my lilo config and running into problems. Here is my lilo.conf file: prompt timeout = 100 boot = /dev/ida/c0d0p1 map = /boot/map install = /boot/boot.b message = /boot/message default = linux image = /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.7-10smp label = linux initrd = /boot/initrd-2.4.7-10smp.img read-only append = mem=256M root = /dev/ida/c0d0p2 image = /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.7-10 label = linux-up initrd = /boot/initrd-2.4.7-10.img read-only append = mem=256M root = /dev/ida/c0d0p2 When I attempt to execute /sbin/lilo -v -v -v it gives me this: [root@lngi56 etc]# lilo -v -v -v LILO version 21.4-4, Copyright (C) 1992-1998 Werner Almesberger 'lba32' extensions Copyright (C) 1999,2000 John Coffman Reading boot sector from current root. Merging with /boot/boot.b Device 0x4801: BIOS drive 0x80, 255 heads, 4110 cylinders, 32 sectors. Partition offset: 73440 sectors. Secondary loader: 11 sectors. Device 0x4801: BIOS drive 0x80, 255 heads, 4110 cylinders, 32 sectors. Partition offset: 73440 sectors. Syntax error near line 2 in file /etc/lilo.conf Removed temporary file /boot/map~ It doesn't seem to matter what line 2 is. I've rearranged the lilo.conf file around in everywhich way... Here's the last intriguing tidbit: When I edit /etc/lilo.conf, vi puts the [dos] tag at the bottom of the screen Would this make a difference? Thanks all, Matt -- Matthew Carpenter CNI, CNE, CCNA, MCP, J2CP, WP [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.e-i-s.cc/ Enterprise Information Systems *Network Consulting, Integration Support *Web Development and E-Business ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Lilo question (HW-RAID5)/Error
Sorry to reply to my own post, but the issue WAS the [dos] file. I copied and pasted the config into a new file in vi and lilo ran flawlessly. Thanks anyway! Matt On Wed, 2 Jan 2002 11:42:01 -0500 Matthew Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have RH7.2 installed on a Compaq Dual-PPro with HW RAID5. It's an old box (200MHz for each proc) but it seems to run ok. I am attempting to update my lilo config and running into problems. Here is my lilo.conf file: prompt timeout = 100 boot = /dev/ida/c0d0p1 map = /boot/map install = /boot/boot.b message = /boot/message default = linux image = /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.7-10smp label = linux initrd = /boot/initrd-2.4.7-10smp.img read-only append = mem=256M root = /dev/ida/c0d0p2 image = /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.7-10 label = linux-up initrd = /boot/initrd-2.4.7-10.img read-only append = mem=256M root = /dev/ida/c0d0p2 When I attempt to execute /sbin/lilo -v -v -v it gives me this: [root@lngi56 etc]# lilo -v -v -v LILO version 21.4-4, Copyright (C) 1992-1998 Werner Almesberger 'lba32' extensions Copyright (C) 1999,2000 John Coffman Reading boot sector from current root. Merging with /boot/boot.b Device 0x4801: BIOS drive 0x80, 255 heads, 4110 cylinders, 32 sectors. Partition offset: 73440 sectors. Secondary loader: 11 sectors. Device 0x4801: BIOS drive 0x80, 255 heads, 4110 cylinders, 32 sectors. Partition offset: 73440 sectors. Syntax error near line 2 in file /etc/lilo.conf Removed temporary file /boot/map~ It doesn't seem to matter what line 2 is. I've rearranged the lilo.conf file around in everywhich way... Here's the last intriguing tidbit: When I edit /etc/lilo.conf, vi puts the [dos] tag at the bottom of the screen Would this make a difference? Thanks all, Matt -- Matthew Carpenter CNI, CNE, CCNA, MCP, J2CP, WP [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.e-i-s.cc/ Enterprise Information Systems *Network Consulting, Integration Support *Web Development and E-Business ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- Matthew Carpenter CNI, CNE, CCNA, MCP, J2CP, WP [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.e-i-s.cc/ Enterprise Information Systems *Network Consulting, Integration Support *Web Development and E-Business ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Lilo question (HW-RAID5)/Error
On Wednesday 02 January 2002 08:42 am, you wrote: I have RH7.2 installed on a Compaq Dual-PPro with HW RAID5. It's an old box (200MHz for each proc) but it seems to run ok. I am attempting to update my lilo config and running into problems. Here is my lilo.conf file: prompt timeout = 100 ---maybe quotes should be on 100? -- Ted Ozolins(VE7TVO) Westbank, B. C. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: vi question: mapping a key to esc in insert mode
Joel Hammer wrote: I use vi. I'm sorry to hear that. No, no, just kidding. I use it too. ;-) The biggest nuisance I have with it is constantly having to hit the esc button to exit the insert mode. I have remapped my ; key to do this. But, now I have to type cntrl-v59 to insert a semicolon into my document. I assume you used map! to remap the ; key and the F2 key. You can change this behavior (macros calling other macros) by setting noremap: :set noremap If you want remap set, just unset it and reset it in the macro. Try this: map! F2 ^[:set noremap^Ma;^[:set remap^Ma map! ; ^[ The F2 represents pressing the F2 key, ^[ means ctrl-vESC, and ^M means ctrl-vctrl-m. If you reverse the order of the map! commands, you'll have to use ctrl-v; rather than ; in the top one. I tested this in gvim 5.8, but I got the idea from a paper on vi so it should work for you. The paper (Vi Macros, Abbreviations, and Buffers by Fred Buck) is available here: http://www.mathsci.appstate.edu/~egp/misc/vi/macros Dave ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
vi question: mapping a key to esc in insert mode
I use vi. The biggest nuisance I have with it is constantly having to hit the esc button to exit the insert mode. I have remapped my ; key to do this. But, now I have to type cntrl-v59 to insert a semicolon into my document. I have tried to map F2 to insert a ; but that is not possible. Hitting the F2 key just results in an esc command being sent, not a ; symbol. I have tried to define the F2 mapping with cntrl-v59, and that works, but the F2 key then sends a ; which results in the esc function being activated. So, I guess my problem is, how do you send an ascii code to vi and prevent it from being interpreted if it has been remapped? I can get around this by making up a file which contains the ; symbol, and reading that file into my document with a macro, but that seems really lame. Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Question
On December 28, Jer Scanlon enlightened our ignorance thusly: Very obviously a newby, waiting for parts to finish his new Box. Am going to start with Mandrake 8.1. Am printing-out the manuals now. I've been lurking for some time, and am learning some of the linux lingo. But, SxS.Sox vs Sonics? Be a very strange game. SxS is a shorthand for Step-by-Step. Kurt -- To be sure of hitting the target, shoot first and, whatever you hit, call it the target. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Question
On Fri, 28 Dec 2001 17:28, Jer Scanlon wrote: Very obviously a newby, waiting for parts to finish his new Box. Am going to start with Mandrake 8.1. welcome to this wonderful mailing list. -- http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Question
--- Vern W Heesch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 27 December 2001 09:58 pm, you wrote: Very obviously a newby, waiting for parts to finish his new Box. Am going to start with Mandrake 8.1. Am printing-out the manuals now. I've been lurking for some time, and am learning some of the linux lingo. But, SxS.Sox vs Sonics? Be a very strange game. Jer SxS = Step-By-Step. You'll find them to be an excellent source of information. Since no one else has yet pointed out the URL for the SxS, please see my sig. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Ok... so its a stupid question
Previously, David Aikema chose to write: mouse usb-ps2 ps2-serial No cigar. The fly in this ointment is that no two ps2-serial adaptors are born equal. They are married to the mouse that they came with. There is no such thing as a 'generic' ps2-serial adaptor. The ps2-serial adaptor that you have is a cheat and a liar, it's ps2 connection is expecting a mouse, a specific oem mouse at that, the last thing it expects is to be hit with is another (male) ps2 connector and I am unaware of any circumstance where what you have will work. -- http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Ok... so its a stupid question
On Thursday 27 December 2001 05:55 am, you wrote: Previously, David Aikema chose to write: mouse usb-ps2 ps2-serial No cigar. The fly in this ointment is that no two ps2-serial adaptors are born equal. They are married to the mouse that they came with. There is no such thing as a 'generic' ps2-serial adaptor. The ps2-serial adaptor that you have is a cheat and a liar, it's ps2 connection is expecting a mouse, a specific oem mouse at that, the last thing it expects is to be hit with is another (male) ps2 connector and I am unaware of any circumstance where what you have will work. The biggest problem isn't thepinouts of either of these, as all the ps2 pinouts are the same, the problem is that ps2 and usb both have a +5V and ground available capable of supplying more current than any serial bus can ever hope to. Most devices built for usb require that extra zap and even if you were to custum build an adapter that would allow you to connect that usb device to a seriaal port I doubt that it would ever operate properly. Hence my previous comment; Get a USB adapter card and be done with it. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Question
Very obviously a newby, waiting for parts to finish his new Box. Am going to start with Mandrake 8.1. Am printing-out the manuals now. I've been lurking for some time, and am learning some of the linux lingo. But, SxS.Sox vs Sonics? Be a very strange game. Jer --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.310 / Virus Database: 171 - Release Date: 12/19/01
Re: Question
On Thursday 27 December 2001 09:58 pm, you wrote: Very obviously a newby, waiting for parts to finish his new Box. Am going to start with Mandrake 8.1. Am printing-out the manuals now. I've been lurking for some time, and am learning some of the linux lingo. But, SxS.Sox vs Sonics? Be a very strange game. Jer --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.310 / Virus Database: 171 - Release Date: 12/19/01 SxS = Step-By-Step. You'll find them to be an excellent source of information. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Dumb Question of the week
On Sun, 23 Dec 2001 16:06,stayler scribed: Would you guys be able to point me to a good reference on major and minor numbers for file systems. I'm p-laying with IDE CDROM and DVD drives and COL is complaining about wrong major/minor numbers. They are set to 1 1 just like my SCSI's. Suggestions? stayler Thems not the major or minor numbers complained about. I am guessing you are looking in fstab, whilst the numbers are displayed in /dev against the driver. -- Keith Antoine aka 'skippy' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Vi question: Graphics
Try :digraphs to see the various acsii codes and symbols. BOF Joel Hammer wrote: Any vi users here? I would like to use the [CNTRL]V sequence to add simple graphical thingees like small boxes and circles to my text files. Is there a way to do this with vi? I have checked out the ascii and iso-8859 pages, and I don't see any graphical thinges in those ascii codes. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: WP8 envelope question
On Dec 21 Joel Hammer was heard saying: -Well, I finally solved this vexing problem, without having to tinker with -the postscript code. -To move the text on the envelope over to the right side of the printer, in -the envelope definition, move the text up with the TOP adjustment 4.375 inches. -Joel *** A petit SxS maybe!? Cheers, Zoran. -- Software is like sex, It's better when it's Free... -- Linus Torvalds ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: WP8 envelope question
Do you really think this is worth a SxS? Joel On Dec 21 Joel Hammer was heard saying: -Well, I finally solved this vexing problem, without having to tinker with -the postscript code. -To move the text on the envelope over to the right side of the printer, in -the envelope definition, move the text up with the TOP adjustment 4.375 inches. -Joel *** A petit SxS maybe!? Cheers, Zoran. -- Software is like sex, It's better when it's Free... -- Linus Torvalds ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Fwd: Re: Ok... so its a stupid question
This initally didn't seem to make it through so I'm attempting to repost. -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: Re: Ok... so its a stupid question Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 22:14:33 -0800 From: David Aikema [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On December 21, 2001 08:20 pm, Ted Ozolins wrote: On Friday 21 December 2001 06:41 pm, Tim Wunder wrote: Previously, David Aikema chose to write: 2. Would an optical mouse get enough electro-juice via the serial port to enable it to work... or are the ps2 and usb ports capable of powering more demanding devices? Why not just get an USB adapter card and be done with it? The people owning this computer aren't really technology enthusiasts they just don't want to upgrade. I lent them an old serial mouse which was in perfect working order and they've been using that for the past month or so (somehow that mouse has always slipped my mind). The machine in question is a cyrix p150+ w/ 16 megs ram running windows 95 on a 1 gig or smaller hard drive the usb adaptor would almost be worth as much as the entire machine from the looks of things. David Aikema --- Your message cannot be delivered to the following recipients: Recipient address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reason: Remote SMTP server has rejected address Diagnostic code: smtp;530 5.7.1 Relaying not allowed: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Remote system: dns;10.0.120.44 (TCP|10.0.120.198|55242|10.0.120.44|25) (pd5mq1so.prod.shaw.ca -- Server ESMTP [iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 [built May 7 2001]]) Hmn... I know Bill Day and at least one other person appeared to be having similar problems the other day... David Aikema ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Dumb Question of the week
Would you guys be able to point me to a good reference on major and minor numbers for file systems. I'm p-laying with IDE CDROM and DVD drives and COL is complaining about wrong major/minor numbers. They are set to 1 1 just like my SCSI's. Suggestions? stayler ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Dumb Question of the week
--- stayler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would you guys be able to point me to a good reference on major and minor numbers for file systems. I'm p-laying with IDE CDROM and DVD drives and COL is complaining about wrong major/minor numbers. They are set to 1 1 just like my SCSI's. Suggestions? /usr/src/linux/Documentation/devices.txt = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Vi question: Graphics
Any vi users here? I would like to use the [CNTRL]V sequence to add simple graphical thingees like small boxes and circles to my text files. Is there a way to do this with vi? I have checked out the ascii and iso-8859 pages, and I don't see any graphical thinges in those ascii codes. Thanks, Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
WP8 envelope question
Now that I have the filtrex patch installed, I can use WP8 again. One real problem for me is envelopes. I have to print them out in the narrow format, not wide format, since my lexmarkz53 isn't wide enough for a business envelope. Problem is, wp8 insists on printing them out on the left hand side of my printer (users left hand). However, my printer insists that the paper be loaded flush with the right hand side of the printer. Before I look into patching up my print queue filter to change the postscript file generated by wp8 (this could be done, I guess) does anyone know of a way to make WP8 print envelopes in the narrow format with the text flush to the right side of the page. Thanks, Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Ok... so its a stupid question
I'm just wonderinf if there's a limit to the number of adaptors that you can throw on a peripheral. I've currently got a usb optical wheel mouse sitting around that someone I know wants to use on a motherboard that only gives you serial mouse support. The thing currently has a usb-ps2 converter on it and then a ps2-serial converter attached to that. I can verify that the mouse works, as well as does the usb-ps2 adaptor... but the mouse fails to work when attached to the serial port with the second adaptor. I know somewhere around I've got a second ps2-serial adaptor that I can verify works.. but I can't find it for the life of me. So... I guess I've really got two questions... 1. Is there a limit to the number of adaptors that you can shove on a peripheral? ...and... 2. Would an optical mouse get enough electro-juice via the serial port to enable it to work... or are the ps2 and usb ports capable of powering more demanding devices? David Aikema ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Ok... so its a stupid question
Previously, David Aikema chose to write: 2. Would an optical mouse get enough electro-juice via the serial port to enable it to work... or are the ps2 and usb ports capable of powering more demanding devices? I wouldn't think the serial port can provide enough power. The PC serial port doesn't have a dedicated power pin. AFAIK, power is gotten from there by tying certain signal pins (RTS+CTS??). I would doubt it could power it. I think you can buy adapters that'll steal power from the keyboard or mouse ports, though. Check out BB Electronics, or Black Box. I think they have web sites. HTH, Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: WP8 envelope question
Well, I finally solved this vexing problem, without having to tinker with the postscript code. To move the text on the envelope over to the right side of the printer, in the envelope definition, move the text up with the TOP adjustment 4.375 inches. Joel On Fri, Dec 21, 2001 at 01:09:25PM -0500, Joel Hammer wrote: Now that I have the filtrex patch installed, I can use WP8 again. One real problem for me is envelopes. I have to print them out in the narrow format, not wide format, since my lexmarkz53 isn't wide enough for a business envelope. Problem is, wp8 insists on printing them out on the left hand side of my printer (users left hand). However, my printer insists that the paper be loaded flush with the right hand side of the printer. Before I look into patching up my print queue filter to change the postscript file generated by wp8 (this could be done, I guess) does anyone know of a way to make WP8 print envelopes in the narrow format with the text flush to the right side of the page. Thanks, Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Ok... so its a stupid question
On Friday 21 December 2001 06:41 pm, Tim Wunder wrote: Previously, David Aikema chose to write: 2. Would an optical mouse get enough electro-juice via the serial port to enable it to work... or are the ps2 and usb ports capable of powering more demanding devices? Why not just get an USB adapter card and be done with it? ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Ok... so its a stupid question
I have one on a box that runs col2.3, works fine. On Saturday 22 December 2001 04:20, Ted Ozolins wrote: On Friday 21 December 2001 06:41 pm, Tim Wunder wrote: Previously, David Aikema chose to write: 2. Would an optical mouse get enough electro-juice via the serial port to enable it to work... or are the ps2 and usb ports capable of powering more demanding devices? Why not just get an USB adapter card and be done with it? ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- Ronnie == Each days terror almost a form of boredom madmen at the wheel and stepping on the gas and the brakes no good and each day one, sometimes two, morning glories faultless, blue, blue sometimes flecked with magenta each lit from within with the first sunlight -- Denise Levertov -- ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Hd question.
I agree with the opinion that the disk is dead, presuming you already gave us all the relevant info. Can you mount a floppy and boot? If you have windoze, www.toms.net/rb has a version of linux that builds under dos - a zip file. Then #e2fsck - n will tell you about the state of the hd, and offer the address of an alternative superblock # badblocks will check the disk blocks. Use switches. With that history, I'd back up anything you want off the windoze side NOW!! e2fsck can be run to call badblocks. -- Regards, Declan Moriarty Applied Researches - Ireland's Foremost Electronic Hardware Genius A Slightly Serious(TM) Company Experience is like a comb, that Life gives you - AFTER all your hair has fallen out! On Sunday 16 December 2001 05:08, you wrote: After running a Win95/col2.2 dual boot for 2.5 years the col2 suddenly shutdown down one night in the middle of an internet session. I mean the screen just went dark. The bootup was .located in the hda mbr. On reboot, boot magic failed with the error message that the linux partition couldn't be found. Took the opportunity to upgrade to e2.4. After two weeks it failed to bootup. Error message said something was cycling too fast and it would have to shut down for five minutes. Never booted up. Upgraded to w3.1. Lasted about three days before did the same thing. Boot and rescue disks failed to boot system. Shifted to Mandrake 7.0. After a month failed to boot. Error message said reading 1 bit in swap sync. Moved to Mandrake 8.0, 8.1 same results. The system is a Mainboard running a 200mmx Pentium with 64Meg memory and a Quantum 4 gig big foot hd. Only thing I can think of for this is that the hd may be going bad and files are getting corrupted in bad sectors. Any opinions? Lee ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Hd question.
After running a Win95/col2.2 dual boot for 2.5 years the col2 suddenly shutdown down one night in the middle of an internet session. I mean the screen just went dark. The bootup was .located in the hda mbr. On reboot, boot magic failed with the error message that the linux partition couldn't be found. Took the opportunity to upgrade to e2.4. After two weeks it failed to bootup. Error message said something was cycling too fast and it would have to shut down for five minutes. Never booted up. Upgraded to w3.1. Lasted about three days before did the same thing. Boot and rescue disks failed to boot system. Shifted to Mandrake 7.0. After a month failed to boot. Error message said reading 1 bit in swap sync. Moved to Mandrake 8.0, 8.1 same results. The system is a Mainboard running a 200mmx Pentium with 64Meg memory and a Quantum 4 gig big foot hd. Only thing I can think of for this is that the hd may be going bad and files are getting corrupted in bad sectors. Any opinions? Lee ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Hd question.
Well, there's not much to go on here, but its fairly certain that its hardware failure somewhere. If the disk is still under warranty (and i believe that Quantum gave 3 yrs) then you can get it replaced at no charge. That may be the easiest route in the shortterm, unless you have a bit more info to go on. --- Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After running a Win95/col2.2 dual boot for 2.5 years the col2 suddenly shutdown down one night in the middle of an internet session. I mean the screen just went dark. The bootup was .located in the hda mbr. On reboot, boot magic failed with the error message that the linux partition couldn't be found. Took the opportunity to upgrade to e2.4. After two weeks it failed to bootup. Error message said something was cycling too fast and it would have to shut down for five minutes. Never booted up. Upgraded to w3.1. Lasted about three days before did the same thing. Boot and rescue disks failed to boot system. Shifted to Mandrake 7.0. After a month failed to boot. Error message said reading 1 bit in swap sync. Moved to Mandrake 8.0, 8.1 same results. The system is a Mainboard running a 200mmx Pentium with 64Meg memory and a Quantum 4 gig big foot hd. Only thing I can think of for this is that the hd may be going bad and files are getting corrupted in bad sectors. Any opinions? = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Hd question.
On Sunday 16 December 2001 0:08 am, Lee wrote: After running a Win95/col2.2 dual boot for 2.5 years the col2 suddenly shutdown down one night in the middle of an internet session. I mean the screen just went dark. The bootup was .located in the hda mbr. On reboot, boot magic failed with the error message that the linux partition couldn't be found. Took the opportunity to upgrade to e2.4. After two weeks it failed to bootup. Error message said something was cycling too fast and it would have to shut down for five minutes. Never booted up. Upgraded to w3.1. Lasted about three days before did the same thing. Boot and rescue disks failed to boot system. Shifted to Mandrake 7.0. After a month failed to boot. Error message said reading 1 bit in swap sync. Moved to Mandrake 8.0, 8.1 same results. The system is a Mainboard running a 200mmx Pentium with 64Meg memory and a Quantum 4 gig big foot hd. Only thing I can think of for this is that the hd may be going bad Ya think?:o) and files are getting corrupted in bad sectors. Any opinions? You're not one to take a hint:-) -- ++ + Bruce S. Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bellaire, MI 12/17/01 11:42 + ++ Some painters transform the sun into a yellow spot; others transform a yellow spot into the sun. - Pablo Picasso ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Hd question.
Net Llama wrote: Well, there's not much to go on here, but its fairly certain that its hardware failure somewhere. If the disk is still under warranty (and i believe that Quantum gave 3 yrs) then you can get it replaced at no charge. That may be the easiest route in the shortterm, unless you have a bit more info to go on. --- Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Snip It's an old hd 4gig have been running it for 2.5 yrs and bought it used. So ready to replace it anyway. The thging that galls me though is that the WIN 95 side of the dual boot has been running without problems. Lee= Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Hd question.
Lee wrote: % After running a Win95/col2.2 dual boot for 2.5 years the col2 suddenly % shutdown down one night in the middle of an internet session. I mean the % screen just went dark. The bootup was .located in the hda mbr. On % reboot, boot magic failed with the error message that the linux % partition couldn't be found. Took the opportunity to upgrade to e2.4. % After two weeks it failed to bootup. Error message said something was % cycling too fast and it would have to shut down for five minutes. % Never booted up. Upgraded to w3.1. Lasted about three days before did % the same thing. Boot and rescue disks failed to boot system. Shifted to % Mandrake 7.0. After a month failed to boot. Error message said reading 1 % bit in swap sync. Moved to Mandrake 8.0, 8.1 same results. The system is % a Mainboard running a 200mmx Pentium with 64Meg memory and a Quantum 4 % gig big foot hd. Only thing I can think of for this is that the hd may % be going bad and files are getting corrupted in bad sectors. Any % opinions? My take is the HD is toast; failing that, the MB is toast. Kurt -- Slang is language that takes off its coat, spits on its hands, and goes to work. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Hd question.
Lee wrote: [...] % It's an old hd 4gig have been running it for 2.5 yrs and bought it used. % So ready to replace it anyway. The thging that galls me though is that % the WIN 95 side of the dual boot has been running without problems. Linux pushes hardware much harder than Windows. Kurt -- Today is the first day of the rest of the mess ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Hd question.
--- Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Net Llama wrote: Well, there's not much to go on here, but its fairly certain that its hardware failure somewhere. If the disk is still under warranty (and i believe that Quantum gave 3 yrs) then you can get it replaced at no charge. That may be the easiest route in the shortterm, unless you have a bit more info to go on. --- Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Snip It's an old hd 4gig have been running it for 2.5 yrs and bought it used. So ready to replace it anyway. The thging that galls me though is that the WIN 95 side of the dual boot has been running without problems. It could easily be some bad blocks that appeared on the side where you're trying to run linux. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Hd question.
On Sunday 16 December 2001 15:08, Lee enunciated: After running a Win95/col2.2 dual boot for 2.5 years the col2 suddenly shutdown down one night in the middle of an internet session. I mean the screen just went dark. The bootup was .located in the hda mbr. On reboot, boot magic failed with the error message that the linux partition couldn't be found. Took the opportunity to upgrade to e2.4. After two weeks it failed to bootup. Error message said something was cycling too fast and it would have to shut down for five minutes. Never booted up. Upgraded to w3.1. Lasted about three days before did the same thing. Boot and rescue disks failed to boot system. Shifted to Mandrake 7.0. After a month failed to boot. Error message said reading 1 bit in swap sync. Moved to Mandrake 8.0, 8.1 same results. The system is a Mainboard running a 200mmx Pentium with 64Meg memory and a Quantum 4 gig big foot hd. Only thing I can think of for this is that the hd may be going bad and files are getting corrupted in bad sectors. Any opinions? Looks like a new HD time, I would not have waited so long as its surely going to kark it at some stage totally. The bigfoot was a wierd exercise by Quantum for IBM, it never took off in the market place. I have replaced quite a few in the last 2 years. -- Keith Antoine aka 'skippy' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
IMPAP server configuration question
Trying to make my linux box an imap server. It is amazingly hard to find info out about this. My Programming Internet Mail book from O'Reilly doesn't mention anything about setting up the server. Using the defaults, everything works fine for mail that goes to my standard mailbox, the one in my environmental variable MAIL. However, I am not sure of the best way to allow for other mailboxes to be serviced by the server, eg. how to allow the imap client to subscribe to them. Now, when I try to subscribe from Netscape 6.2, every file on my home directory seems to be presented as a mail box. So, should I be fiddling with the client (what is user space, anyway?) or should I fiddle with the imap server? Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: IMPAP server configuration question
IMAP configuration, as I have found it, is nonexistent. Either you allow it or not (though your inetd config) and you control access to the service (hosts.allow and hosts.deny, I suppose iptables as well). It's essentially on or off. If I'm wrong, please tell me otherwise. I created a directory called MAIL off my user directory and it is where all my mail is stored, etc... In Sylpheed (my IMAP client) there is a configuration IMAP server directory which I type in MAIL and everything works. I believe Netscape has the same option. On Sat, 15 Dec 2001 11:04:41 -0500 Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Trying to make my linux box an imap server. It is amazingly hard to find info out about this. My Programming Internet Mail book from O'Reilly doesn't mention anything about setting up the server. Using the defaults, everything works fine for mail that goes to my standard mailbox, the one in my environmental variable MAIL. However, I am not sure of the best way to allow for other mailboxes to be serviced by the server, eg. how to allow the imap client to subscribe to them. Now, when I try to subscribe from Netscape 6.2, every file on my home directory seems to be presented as a mail box. So, should I be fiddling with the client (what is user space, anyway?) or should I fiddle with the imap server? Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- Matthew Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.e-i-s.cc/ Linux User #185986 Enterprise Information Systems *Network Consulting, Integration Support *Web Development and E-Business ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: bzImage question - now make modules
On Monday 01 October 2001 14:58, Tony Alfrey wrote: make modules_install: OK until the very end where I think it runs depmod -a. The list of modules with unresolved symbols looks like [snip] Almost for sure (being a caldera derived kernel) the offender is /etc/modules.conf. remove all path statements from the top of that file. eg path[usb] you can, safely, neuter that file altogether to get a kernel made and add back the relevant bits later. Not a recommended procedure but, hell, nothing wrong in reducing noise levels first time out. there is *still* an unresolved issue with depmod -a that requires it to be used AFTER you reboot the new kernel. This 'problem' is so endemic that all distros i am aware of automatically fire that command out at boot time without your help. The ways they do that are sometimes wondrous to behold. So, if modules are your only problem you will be 'ok' to reboot on a now (functionally compiled) kernel. It is quite likely in any case, that because this is your first go, you've probably 'missed' selecting / compiling a module or two and depmod / modprobe will scream regardless. The bottom line safety net is to leave an intact kernel 2.4.0 kernel image in /boot, ensure lilo does indeed point to it in some way, and, secondly retain /lib/modules/2.4.0 Everything else is playtime, and you'll be reasonably bomb proof. -- http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: bzImage question - now make modules
On Tuesday 02 October 2001 06:57 am,Mike Andrew wrote: On Monday 01 October 2001 14:58, Tony Alfrey wrote: make modules_install: OK until the very end where I think it runs depmod -a. The list of modules with unresolved symbols looks like [snip] Almost for sure (being a caldera derived kernel) the offender is /etc/modules.conf. remove all path statements from the top of that file. eg path[usb] David Bandel recommended to retain only path[usb]=/lib/modules/'uname -r' Shoule I kill that too?? you can, safely, neuter that file altogether to get a kernel made and add back the relevant bits later. I'm a little unclear here. Do you mean wipe out /etc/modules.conf during make bzImage and then put it back before make modules? Not a recommended procedure but, hell, nothing wrong in reducing noise levels first time out. snip So, if modules are your only problem you will be 'ok' to reboot on a now (functionally compiled) kernel. At this point, I get Installing kernel . . . . . . . . . . . Uncompressing Linux . . . . . . . . . Invalid compressed format (err=1) It is quite likely in any case, that because this is your first go, you've probably 'missed' selecting / compiling a module or two and depmod / modprobe will scream regardless. I went back and did a very vanilla xconfig with as little stuff as I thought I would need. The list of complaints is now shorter. depmod -a seems (but I'm not yet absolutely sure) to complain about unresoved symbols on each module that I selected as a loadable module. The bottom line safety net is to leave an intact kernel 2.4.0 kernel image in /boot, ensure lilo does indeed point to it in some way, and, secondly retain /lib/modules/2.4.0 Everything else is playtime, and you'll be reasonably bomb proof. So far, I have been able to boot the 2.4.0 kernel with no problem after the new kernel boot crashes. This is my script. It is a synthesis of the various scripts and suggestions in the various SxSs. My new kernel source is in /root/testlinux/linux-2.4.4 #!/bin/bash # bk - script to build a kernel mv /lib/modules/2.4.0 /lib/modules/old-2.4.0 echo Building a new kernel . . . cd /root/testlinux/linux-2.4.4 make mrproper if [ $? -gt 0 ] ; then echo make mrproper failed exit 1 fi make xconfig es=$? if [ $es -gt 0 ] ; then echo make xconfig failed exit es fi make dep if [ $? -gt 0 ] ; then echo make dep failed exit 1 fi make clean if [ $? -gt 0 ] ; then echo make clean failed exit 1 fi make bzImage if [ $? -gt 0 ] ; then echo make bzImage failed exit 1 fi make modules if [ $? -gt 0 ] ; then echo make modules failed exit 1 fi make modules_install if [ $? -gt 0 ] ; then echo make modules_install failed exit 1 fi cp arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.4-modular cp System.map /boot/System.map-2.4.4 # Put this back anyway if the script crashes mv /lib/modules/old-2.4.0 /lib/modules/2.4.0 depmod -a 2.4.4 lilo Thanks for your help! -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd rather be sailing ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
bzImage question - now make modules
Hi list! Earlier I complained about my 2.4.4 kernel compile crashing at make bzImage. But it appears that the problem was in running xconfig in run level 3 and not within X. So now things get as far as make modules before going bonk. I get this: buz.c:322: `KMALLOC_MAXSIZE' undeclared (first use in this function) buz.c:316: warning: `alloc_contig' might be used uninitialized in this function buz.c: In function `zoran_ioctl': buz.c:2837: `KMALLOC_MAXSIZE' undeclared (first use in this function) make[3]: *** [buz.o] Error 1 make[3]: Leaving directory `/root/testlinux/linux-2.4.4/drivers/media/video' make[2]: *** [_modsubdir_video] Error 2 make[2]: Leaving directory `/root/testlinux/linux-2.4.4/drivers/media' make[1]: *** [_modsubdir_media] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/root/testlinux/linux-2.4.4/drivers' make: *** [_mod_drivers] Error 2 zoran is a loadable kernel module for a video adapter that is selected as m in xconfig as is buz. So what do you experts think? Should I just trash these in xconfig? Or any other ideas? Thanks! -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd rather be sailing ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
