Re: [WSG] Site content stolen is there anyone to report it to in the USA

2006-09-07 Thread absalom
Quoting Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Dear Group,
 
 Doing a google check with allinurl:hereticpress.com/  I discovered my  
 site was being duplicated on another site
 http://literature-universe.info/siteinfo.php/www.hereticpress.com/ 
 Dogstar/Novels/NUNC.html
 
 I get an access denied error 403 when trying to see my content on their  
 site. The person concerned is listed as:
 
 Domain ID:D13331894-LRMS
 Domain Name:LITERATURE-UNIVERSE.INFO
 Created On:09-May-2006 18:27:58 UTC
 Registrant City:Birmingham
 Registrant State/Province:AL
 Registrant Postal Code:35243
 Registrant Country:US
 Registrant Phone:+1.2059691222
 Registrant Phone Ext.:
 Registrant FAX:+1.2059691222
 Registrant Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Admin Name:Gregg Ostrick
 
 I changed my .htaccess file to give him a graphic saying stolen content  
 from hereticpress.com
 
 Is there a law against this in the USA, can I report Gregg Ostrick to  
 any interested authority in the USA? I hope he likes my graphic:-)
 
 Tim
 The Editor
 Heretic Press
 http://www.hereticpress.com
 Email [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Tim,

Your .htaccess is a little dangerous as a response. It's blocking Melbourne,
Australian IPs. I can't view your site on certain networks I'm working with..

Apart from that I second what Melissa Cooper suggested. Going for the 'jugular'
as it were immediately doesn't give them appropriate means for recourse.. which
is why most of the design pirates I've had to deal with, they have usually lost
due to simple logical attrition. I've only reached for the lawyers when
absolutely necessary..

Lawrence
Absalom Media
http://www.absalom.biz 


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Re: [WSG] Site content stolen is there anyone to report it to in the USA

2006-09-07 Thread absalom
Quoting Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Dear Group,
 
 Doing a google check with allinurl:hereticpress.com/  I discovered my  
 site was being duplicated on another site
 http://literature-universe.info/siteinfo.php/www.hereticpress.com/ 
 Dogstar/Novels/NUNC.html
 
 I get an access denied error 403 when trying to see my content on their  
 site. The person concerned is listed as:
 
 Domain ID:D13331894-LRMS
 Domain Name:LITERATURE-UNIVERSE.INFO
 Created On:09-May-2006 18:27:58 UTC
 Registrant City:Birmingham
 Registrant State/Province:AL
 Registrant Postal Code:35243
 Registrant Country:US
 Registrant Phone:+1.2059691222
 Registrant Phone Ext.:
 Registrant FAX:+1.2059691222
 Registrant Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Admin Name:Gregg Ostrick
 
 I changed my .htaccess file to give him a graphic saying stolen content  
 from hereticpress.com
 
 Is there a law against this in the USA, can I report Gregg Ostrick to  
 any interested authority in the USA? I hope he likes my graphic:-)
 
 Tim
 The Editor
 Heretic Press
 http://www.hereticpress.com
 Email [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Tim,

Your .htaccess is a little dangerous as a response. It's blocking Melbourne,
Australian IPs. I can't view your site on certain networks I'm working with..

Apart from that I second what Melissa Cooper suggested. Going for the 'jugular'
as it were immediately doesn't give them appropriate means for recourse.. which
is why most of the design pirates I've had to deal with, they have usually lost
due to simple logical attrition. I've only reached for the lawyers when
absolutely necessary..

Lawrence
Absalom Media
http://www.absalom.biz 


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Re: [WSG] getting result in javascript

2006-09-07 Thread Christian Heilmann

Hi All,
I wanted to know whether I can store search result from any known site with
me or not? (If this search is free).
Lets suppose I want to store the response of
http://www.google.com/search?hl=enq=searching+techbtnG=Google+Search;
with me. I m using html/Javascript/Ajax but ajax with only xml files.
If any body can tell me whether its possible in this way or not?


This is off-topic, but if you use Yahoo you can get search results in
many formats, including JSON, which is dead easy to use:

http://icant.co.uk/sandbox/jsonsearch/
There are a lot more search options: http://developer.yahoo.com/search/

Google also has an Ajax search, which you could re-use:
http://code.google.com/apis/ajaxsearch/


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Re: [WSG] XHTML Marquee

2006-09-07 Thread Rob Kirton
RichardI would suggest not using Marquee effect if at all possible. IMHO, finding such code is almost playing the accessibility standards game, rather than making something truly accessible and usable. Moving images / text will be difficult for some people to read, and if links are embeded, a moving object would be impossible for some to click on; likewise such a link could most likely not be tabbed into.
If this is a client request, maybe you can pursuade them not to use this approach an find an alternative. If it is stock price ticker, I realise that could be very difficultRob KIrton
http://ele.vation.co.ukOn 07/09/06, Richard Czeiger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Anyone know where I can find a semantic, unobtrusive, accessible marquee_javascript_? As in a stock price 'ticker' ? If someone's got some codealready writeen up, that would be great.Cheers;o)Richard
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Re: [WSG] XHTML Marquee

2006-09-07 Thread Christian Heilmann

Hi Rob,

Normally I'd agree with you, but a Stock Ticker is something of a tradition
in the industry and I think the users are used to the idea.
Here's what I've put together.


That is an assumption. It's like saying popup windows were an
convention over the years and people should be used to them. Instead,
people use popup blockers.

Animation should always go with moderation, and if you want to think
about accessibility, you should also include an option to stop it or
control its speed.

My favourite bad example is http://tfl.gov.uk, a wonderful informative
site that keeps crashing my firefox as they had to use a java applet
for scrolling a ticker.


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Re: [WSG] XHTML Marquee

2006-09-07 Thread Rob Kirton
RichardThe colour contrast is high, I personally could live with it. maybe tone it down a bit, however keep it within the guidelines (use colour contrast analyser 1.1 or similar) As is, the colours are basicaly fine within the usual colour blindness tests. If the text size is proportionate with the rest of the site, keep it. It can be resized by the user. Using h4 in the way you have is possibly good for SEO, if that is the desired effect. However I would recommend a span if not and it was for visual effect only. As it stands it will not validate unless of course h1,h2  h3 were used first.
generally semantically correct pages, and probably the best you can manage in terms of accessibility - Robhttp://ele.vation.co.uk
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Richard,
I would say my vision was basically perfect - no need for 
glasses even, but that was sore on the eyes! 
Perhaps you could make the text a little larger, and 
possibly reduce the contrast slightly?

Mike

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Re: Re: class names and IDs (was Re: [WSG] p:first-line)

2006-09-07 Thread Elliot Schoemaker

On 9/7/06, Kevin Futter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Ironically, I actually *do* use #topNav a lot, but I selected this name in
the context of top *level* nav, rather than top *positioned* nav. It never
occurred to me that this might be semantically ambiguous. I guess
#primaryNav becomes the better choice here.


Heh, I see your point!! The English language trumps us once again.

Unfortunately when it comes to semantics, linguistic anomalies do play
a role.  This is actually an interesting topic in itself when it comes
to languages parading as other forms of communication.  (eg. English
language used in scripting/coding and so forth).

Has this become a philosophical discussion yet?  I quite like the idea
of such a topic.

Oh dear, I think it's about time I stepped back from this topic :)

- Elliot

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Re: [WSG] XHTML Marquee

2006-09-07 Thread Christian Heilmann

I think one animation going across the page isn't going to kill people.
Like most scrollers, mousing over it pauses the animation.


And how do I do this with a keyboard? I'm not saying your
implementation is not good (actually it is very thorough), I'd just be
_very_ careful about claiming something is accessible, as that is a
very subjective matter. Technical accessibility is just assumption.


While I agree that everything should be in moderation, many people seem to
go the extreme: no flash, no animation, no movement.
I think there's room here to have a balance.


No, you just need to provide a means to stop and to change the speed.
Both is very easy to achieve with JavaScript and two links - which are
also keyboard accessible.


In terms of 'crashing' your browser, this is why I'm hoping that the
information is available whether you have CSS or JavaScript turned off.
If anyone thinks it's inaccessible, I would be eager to here why and hope
that you can offer alternatives to make it accessible.


That is the Java Applet, not your example. For some reason their
classes never load properly.


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[WSG] Semantics - (was : class names and IDs (which was p:first-line))

2006-09-07 Thread Designer

Elliot Schoemaker wrote: [snipped]


Has this become a philosophical discussion yet?  I quite like the idea
of such a topic.

- Elliot



OK, so how far do we take this thinking on semantics etc.  For example, 
many people use a div called 'header'. Suppose I decide to put this at 
the bottom?!!!  Taking this to the extreme, it suggests that 'header' is 
presentational/positional.


So, what we need is a summary of useful 'box-names' which are 
semantically sound, but which don't actually mean anything!


I'm calling this the 'standards contradiction syndrome'. :-)


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Re: [WSG] XHTML Marquee

2006-09-07 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun

Richard Czeiger wrote:
I'd appreciate any comments/suggestions/criticisms... 
http://www.grafx.com.au/wip/marquee.html


Resulting in a blank page with no Marquee in my Opera 9.
Unreadable even with font-resizing to largest in IE6, because of too
high contrast.
Quite a few steps font-resizing needed in Firefox to make it readable,
because of too high contrast.

Generally: high-contrast light on dark should have bold text to reach
the same readability-level as dark on light when small font-size is used
- especially on high-intensity/high-contrast lcd screens.

Georg
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[WSG] Sitecheck please

2006-09-07 Thread Florian Hamberger
redesigned the following site. I tested it with IE 6, FF, Konqueror, and 
Opera. With Opera 9 the navigation isn't displayed correctly, with Opera 8.x 
no errors occur. The horizontal rule still behaves strangely with IE - it 
should always be 66% wide, however IE shows it on all pages except the home 
page about half. And an additional problem: IE doesn't print the background 
image of div#header.

The address of the site is: www.rosenheimer-forum.de
The stylesheets are www.rosenheimer-forum.de/stylesheets/site.css,
www.rosenheimer-forum.de/stylesheets/menu.css and
www.rosenheimer-forum.de/stylesheets/site-print.css


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Re: [WSG] XHTML Marquee

2006-09-07 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh


On Sep 7, 2006, at 7:10 PM, Richard Czeiger wrote:


I'd appreciate any comments/suggestions/criticisms...
http://www.grafx.com.au/wip/marquee.html


It look like this in my browser
http://emps.l-c-n.com/bm/marquee.png
Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en; rv:1.9a1) Gecko/ 
20060907 Camino/1.2+

with minimum font-size set to 12px.
Barely readable for my old eyes, even as it is static.

See this for why.
http://www.geckoisgecko.org/

Philippe
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Re: [WSG] Semantics - (was : class names and IDs (which was p:first-line))

2006-09-07 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun

Designer wrote:

OK, so how far do we take this thinking on semantics etc.  For
example, many people use a div called 'header'. Suppose I decide to
put this at the bottom?!!!  Taking this to the extreme, it suggests
that 'header' is presentational/positional.


Well, I regularly put parts of what end up as visual header, below
everything else in the source-code. Wonder what I should call that
thing now :-)


I'm calling this the 'standards contradiction syndrome'. :-)


Indeed, but quite interesting. Guess I like problems that have no clear
solutions. Maybe it'll clear up one day.

Georg
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RE: [WSG] Semantics - (was : class names and IDs (which was p:first-line))

2006-09-07 Thread Ricci Angela
I always call the group of elements on the top of the page #header, but I don't 
interpret it as a positional name at all. I believe that the header of a 
document, whatever it is, groups important information of the same kind. We can 
find on the header of a document, for example, the name of the company - or 
person, the main title of the document, important transversal information that 
helps in reading this document. So now, where - or why - can we put this group 
of content other than in the beginning of the doc? Why should somebody want to 
put the company logo at the bottom of the page? The problem here is to 
understand the role of a document header, imh.

Angela

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Designer wrote:
 OK, so how far do we take this thinking on semantics etc.  For
 example, many people use a div called 'header'. Suppose I decide to
 put this at the bottom?!!!  Taking this to the extreme, it suggests
 that 'header' is presentational/positional.

Well, I regularly put parts of what end up as visual header, below
everything else in the source-code. Wonder what I should call that
thing now :-)

 I'm calling this the 'standards contradiction syndrome'. :-)

Indeed, but quite interesting. Guess I like problems that have no clear
solutions. Maybe it'll clear up one day.

Georg
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Re: [WSG] Semantics - (was : class names and IDs (which was p:first-line))

2006-09-07 Thread Designer

Tony Crockford wrote:

Hmmm...

I think we could take this too far.

if html contains head and body, why cant body contain header, content 
and footer


yes they are positional.

but there has to be some structural semantics as well surely?  (we 
accept that head comes before body...)


we also accept thead tbody and tfoot, for tables and they have rules 
as to what follows what.


maybe we should be pressing for page subdivision as a standard, rather 
than trying to make up new names for what goes at the top, middle and 
bottom of the page...


;o)


I agree. The thing is, if top, middle and bottom are OK, surely left and 
right are too? Where do you draw the line?


(my own view is that they probably are OK - like Patrick said, 
pragmatism is the order of the day here, surely?)


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Re: [WSG] Semantics - (was : class names and IDs (which was p:first-line))

2006-09-07 Thread Tony Crockford

Designer wrote:

I agree. The thing is, if top, middle and bottom are OK, surely left and 
right are too? Where do you draw the line?


(my own view is that they probably are OK - like Patrick said, 
pragmatism is the order of the day here, surely?)


I think so...

until we get a algorithm built into CSS and Browsers that says place 
this image in the container so that the text flows around it with the 
least orphaned words then we're going to have to make choices about 
should it float left or right  and whilst I think left and right are 
*wrong*  as class names I can't think of a way to differentiate classes 
for image placement that make any long term maintainable sense.


the argument for semantic class names can be used to argue for left and 
right in this case - e.g calling something p.red now means headaches for 
maintenance in the future when p.red is now green, but creating 
img.typea and img.typeb  is just as much a nightmare if you forget which 
type floats which way...


Pragmatism rules.

I want my CSS to be flexible, meaningful and written so I can read it 
like a story (preferably without a translation guide...)


likewise the (x)html should make sense too, so when I look at the code 
and the CSS in an editor I can picture what it *should* appear like.


;o)

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Re: [WSG] Trouble with float layout (IE6 versus Firefox)

2006-09-07 Thread Doug Wigginton
Thanks to Kepler for tinkering with the CSS and to everyone else for their input on this.

The html below allows the floated divs on the right to stack when resolution gets to 600x800.

(in both FF and IE6 Win)

The primary containers needed % widths and there needed to be enough extra room in these divs so that when the resolution is 600x800 the individual child divs do not overflow their containers and cause browser-specific weirdness in IE6



!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//ENhtmlheadtitleStacking Floats/title
style* { margin:0px; padding:0px }body { margin:20px }div { padding:2px }div#content { border:solid 1px black; width:100% }div#leftArea { width:54%; float:left; display:inline; border: solid 1px red}
div#leftArea div { width:390px; background-color:#A0A0A0 }div#rightArea { width:44%; float:right; display:inline; border: solid 1px blue}div#rightArea div { width:205px; float:left; display:inline; background-color:green }
br.clearBoth { clear:both }/style
/headbodydiv id=content
div id=leftAreadiv Left Area/div/div
div id=rightAreadiv First Right div/div
div Second Right div - for 800x600 resolution this div drops for display in viewable area/div/div
br class=clearBoth //div/body/html
On 9/6/06, Kepler Gelotte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 in your testcase, Firefox, Safari, Opera and other modern browsers drop the whole box containing [green div 1] and [green div 2]. That
 is the correct behaviour in this case: the width of the floated parent is not specified, and depends on the width of the content (known: the width+padding+border+margin of the 2 floatedgreen divs;
 the width for those divs is specified).If you float the child div's right instead of left as in:div#rightArea div { float:right; width:220px; background-color:green;margin:2px }the parent div id=rightArea takes on a width of 100% in FireFox.
In Opera the body definition:body { margin:20px }causes the top margin to jump between 20px and 40px when you resize thewindow both horizontally and vertically.I guess all browsers have their quirks.
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Re: [WSG] Semantics - (was : class names and IDs (which was p:first-line))

2006-09-07 Thread Terrence Wood

On 7/09/2006, at 11:11 PM, Designer wrote:
So, what we need is a summary of useful 'box-names' which are  
semantically sound, but which don't actually mean anything!


I've always borrowed from the print world: #masthead, #sidebar,  
#navigation (or #nav), #main (or #main-content), #search and #footer.  
If I need wrappers then these are #page, #pagewrap, or #wrapper.  
Anything more specific, image replacements or suchlike, get a short  
iterated id (#i1, #i2 etc)


Class names usually refer to function, though I probably could do  
better: .hide, .access, .floatleft, .floatright, .current.



kind regards
Terrence Wood



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[WSG] Re: Semantics - (was : class names and IDs (which was p:first-line))

2006-09-07 Thread Andrew Cunningham

Designer writes:


I agree. The thing is, if top, middle and bottom are OK, surely left and 
right are too? Where do you draw the line? 

(my own view is that they probably are OK - like Patrick said, pragmatism 
is the order of the day here, surely?)


In my current projects i try to avoid labels such as left' and right and 
use something more functional. Using an id of #left or #right in a template 
requiring UI mirroring becomes rather odd with #left displaying on the right 
o the page and #right displaying on the left of the page ;) 



Andrew Cunningham
Research and Development Coordinator
Vicnet
State Library of Victoria
Australia 




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[WSG] The DOM

2006-09-07 Thread MarcLuzietti
Can I ask a DOM question here? Is there a way to use JavaScript and the 
Dom to make an element be focusable?

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Re: [WSG] web check please??

2006-09-07 Thread Tom Livingston



On 9/7/06 5:02 PM, John 'Max' Maxwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 www.project.ex16.co.uk

Min-width would be my only complaint. Narrow windows get crazy.

Very nice though.

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Re: [WSG] Re: Semantics - (was : class names and IDs (which was p:first-line))

2006-09-07 Thread Tony Crockford

Andrew Cunningham wrote:

Designer writes:


I agree. The thing is, if top, middle and bottom are OK, surely left 
and right are too? Where do you draw the line?
(my own view is that they probably are OK - like Patrick said, 
pragmatism is the order of the day here, surely?)


In my current projects i try to avoid labels such as left' and right 
and use something more functional. Using an id of #left or #right in a 
template requiring UI mirroring becomes rather odd with #left displaying 
on the right o the page and #right displaying on the left of the page ;)


Agreed, for general elements, but what about for images within a column 
of text..



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Re: [WSG] web check please??

2006-09-07 Thread Tony Crockford

John 'Max' Maxwell wrote:

I next want to look at full disabled access etc - can anyone recommend a 
solid and well represented, up to date resource for this area of web 
design?? Please do not say google it - I want advice from people who 
have used it - there are websites and even published books out there 
turning out code that simply doesn't work to the degree it should.


Hey John!

how about signing up with GAWDS?
(www.gawds.org)

lots of very knowledgeable folk there.

an alternative starting point:

http://diveintoaccessibility.org/
Dive Into Accessibility

and a very useful forum here:

http://www.accessifyforum.com/
Accessify Forum: Accessibility Discussion Forums

and although I haven't bought it *yet* this book looks very promising:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/1590596382/


HTH

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RE: [WSG] The DOM

2006-09-07 Thread Paul Bennett
Yes :)

input type=text name=foo id=bar /

script
document.getElementById('bar').focus();
/script

Paul


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Re: [WSG] The DOM

2006-09-07 Thread Doug Wigginton
I might be missing something, but there's:

document.getElementById( id).focus()

to set focus using the DOM...

On 9/7/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Can I ask a DOM question here? Is there a way to use _javascript_ and theDom to make an element be focusable?
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Re: [WSG] Site content stolen is there anyone to report it to in the USA

2006-09-07 Thread Tim

Thanks,

I have blocked IPs collecting email address as well, everyday, more and 
more IP email address collectors. Sorry for the ban on some Melbourne 
IPs Lawrence. I have most things spam proof, email addresses hidden in 
javascript and lots of fake emails addresses on pages with META tags 
noindex nofollow. I have a bog-trag as well which robots can stuck in 
which creates endless fake email addresses. 
http://www.hereticpress.com/Private/members.foo


If a robot follows such pages I ban them by IP and sometimes 
user-agent, Not an accessible solution, but I have had pirates take 
content before and display my pages in in a frame on their own site.


The google cached version of the page seems to be after they removed my 
content.


I never reach for lawyers, I also have the domain 
http://www.avoidlawyerspicnics.com


If I open up the site and remove most of the banned IPs, I will get 
thousands of visits from bad-bots who serve no purpose at all. Sorry 
for anyone denied access unjustly, should I cast all fears aside and 
open it up completely. I would like my author's content protected, but 
do not wish to deny access to legitimate browsers.


Thanks for the advice everyone.

Tim


On 07/09/2006, at 4:22 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Quoting Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


Dear Group,

Doing a google check with allinurl:hereticpress.com/  I discovered my
site was being duplicated on another site
http://literature-universe.info/siteinfo.php/www.hereticpress.com/
Dogstar/Novels/NUNC.html

I get an access denied error 403 when trying to see my content on 
their

site. The person concerned is listed as:

Domain ID:D13331894-LRMS
Domain Name:LITERATURE-UNIVERSE.INFO
Created On:09-May-2006 18:27:58 UTC
Registrant City:Birmingham
Registrant State/Province:AL
Registrant Postal Code:35243
Registrant Country:US
Registrant Phone:+1.2059691222
Registrant Phone Ext.:
Registrant FAX:+1.2059691222
Registrant Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Admin Name:Gregg Ostrick

I changed my .htaccess file to give him a graphic saying stolen 
content

from hereticpress.com

Is there a law against this in the USA, can I report Gregg Ostrick to
any interested authority in the USA? I hope he likes my graphic:-)

Tim
The Editor
Heretic Press
http://www.hereticpress.com
Email [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Tim,

Your .htaccess is a little dangerous as a response. It's blocking 
Melbourne,
Australian IPs. I can't view your site on certain networks I'm working 
with..


Apart from that I second what Melissa Cooper suggested. Going for the 
'jugular'
as it were immediately doesn't give them appropriate means for 
recourse.. which
is why most of the design pirates I've had to deal with, they have 
usually lost

due to simple logical attrition. I've only reached for the lawyers when
absolutely necessary..

Lawrence
Absalom Media
http://www.absalom.biz


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[WSG] Re: Semantics - (was : class names and IDs (which was p:first-line))

2006-09-07 Thread Andrew Cunningham
Tony Crockford writes: 



Agreed, for general elements, but what about for images within a column of 
text..


the placement of an image within a column would still be subject to 
mirroring in theory, so i'd nbe inclinde to avoid descriptors of left and 
right. 

the concept of left and right in terms of floats, margins and padding is 
problematic enough in templates designed for multilingual environments that 
I'd avoid references to left and right anywhere else. 

Andrew 


Andrew Cunningham
Research and Development Coordinator
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State Library of Victoria
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RE: [WSG] The DOM

2006-09-07 Thread Kepler Gelotte

 Can I ask a DOM question here? Is there a way to use JavaScript and the 
 Dom to make an element be focusable?

If the item in question can receive focus (e.g. input ... or a ...),
then add an id to the element:

input type=text name=phone id=phone ...

And then use:

document.getElementbyId('phone').focus();

If the element can't normally receive focus (e.g. divtext in need of
attention/div), then you can dynamically wrap the text with a href=#
id=focused. I would suggest using the jQuery javascript library to do any
dynamic wrapping.

Regards,
Kepler Gelotte
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Re: [WSG] The DOM

2006-09-07 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
Marc Luzietti wrote:
 Is there a way to use JavaScript and the
 Dom to make an element be focusable?

Here's a script for I often use applying focus to form elements for IE. I 
call it focus_js.js and It could be used for anything, they just need to be 
added as indicated below. If used with another script, just add it to the 
existing script file.

// Begin scripting
window.onload = function() {

 // What elements do you want to assign which events to? ADD more as needed.
 var objEvt = {
  input   : [hover, focus],
  select  : [hover, focus],
  textarea: [hover, focus]
 };

 // spare use variables
 var temp, tempLen = 0;

 // hover/focus functions
 function hoverFunc  (){this.className += ' hover';}
 function unHoverFunc(){this.className = this.className.replace(' hover', 
'');}
 function focusFunc  (){this.className += ' focus';
  if(navigator.appName.indexOf('Explorer')!=-1){

// For clearing a URL/web address input of placeholder except http://
   if(this.value==this.defaultValuethis.name=='url') this.value='http://';
  }
 }
 function unFocusFunc(){this.className = this.className.replace(' focus', 
'');}

 for(var i in objEvt){
  temp = document.getElementsByTagName(i), tempLen = temp.length;
   for(var j=0; jtempLen; j++){
for(var k=0; kobjEvt[i].length; k++){
 if(objEvt[i][k] == 'hover'){
  temp[j].onmouseover = hoverFunc;
  temp[j].onmouseout  = unHoverFunc;
 } else if(objEvt[i][k] == 'focus'){
  temp[j].onfocus = focusFunc;
  temp[j].onblur  = unFocusFunc;
 }
}
   }
 }
}
// End scripting

To use it you link it like any other script then wherever you have the 
:hover and :focus pseudo elements in your CSS, add .hover and .focus 
classes.

:active isn't used in this case.

Hope this helps.

Respectfully,
Mike Cherim
http://green-beast.com/



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Re: [WSG] The DOM

2006-09-07 Thread Marko Mrdjenovic

document.getElementByTagName('body')[0].focus() ?

http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/DOM:element.focus
http://msdn.microsoft.com/workshop/author/dhtml/reference/methods/focus.asp

fry

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Can I ask a DOM question here? Is there a way to use JavaScript and the 
Dom to make an element be focusable?






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RE: [WSG CMS] Strict CMS

2006-09-07 Thread Mark Wonsil
 I am interested in a CMS that is:
 * XHTML Strict
 * Built-in Accessibility features.
 
 I also need one that has the following:
 * Blog with commenting
 * RSS syndication
 * Events calendar and option for people to sign up for events
 * Basic image galleries
 * Search options
 * Donation option in the future
 
 I was looking at Xaraya or Web GUI.
 But any advice would be much appreciated.

CivicSpace was designed to do all of these. It is built on Drupal. You can
demo either at:

CivicSpace:
http://www.opensourcecms.com/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=510

Drupal:
http://www.opensourcecms.com/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=132

Mark W.




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Re: [WSG] web check please??

2006-09-07 Thread ~davidLaakso

John 'Max' Maxwell wrote:

Hi All,

its very early days but I am trying to tie down a solid cross-browser 
3 column liquid layout - I'm really only at 'wireframe' stage but have 
shoved some content in to make sense:


www.project.ex16.co.uk

I am looking for cross-browser friendly resizing of the browser 
window, wanting the left and right columns to remain the same with a 
fluid centre column. A constant padding around the whole site to show 
the slight gradient in the 'body' - and the site should not exceed 
1000px in width. It should also handle resizing of text ok.


I next want to look at full disabled access etc - can anyone recommend 
a solid and well represented, up to date resource for this area of web 
design?? Please do not say google it - I want advice from people who 
have used it - there are websites and even published books out there 
turning out code that simply doesn't work to the degree it should.


all comments greatly appreciated.

Kind regards,

Max.

You have a nice site going, Max. I do not think that min/max width is 
supported in IE, although I think it is in IE7. For IE/6.0  and down I 
think you will need to use your favorite IE min/max workaround. If you 
do not have a favorite work around, you may want to get things going 
well cross-browser at width 100% first (sort of first things first 
principle, if you will). Faux column sidebars 
http://www.alistapart.com/articles/fauxcolumns/ might be a nice touch, 
too. As far as a layout  is concerned, we trip into personal opinion. 
You could stick with what you've got. Or, the 3 column layout on this 
page http://www.alistapart.com/articles/negativemargins/ is robust, 
stable and works well cross-browser (and the tutorial includes 
implantation of equal height columns-- faux columns). And, primary 
content first in source order variations on the same negative margin 
concept may be found here: http://blog.html.it/layoutgala/ (although 
some of these become more difficult to implement the any column longest 
principle).


But either way, the zooming (up or down) of text is not necessarily a 
layout function, but rather one of understanding the Web-- how she 
works, and how we can work with her, to to deliver meaningful content, 
at any screen resolution or zoom set. Just letting stuff (content) flow 
without restricting height on containers sometimes helps to resolve some 
of these issues.


HTH.
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Re: [WSG] XHTML Marquee

2006-09-07 Thread ~davidLaakso

Philippe Wittenbergh wrote:


On Sep 8, 2006, at 12:28 PM, Richard Czeiger wrote:

I've updated the script and taken in to account the contrast factor 
as well as the accessibility issue.
If I were to take it to the exterme, I'd dynamically generate the 
control links.

As it is, i've chucked them into a separate div

http://www.grafx.com.au/wip/marquee.html


Your scripts still fails to account for Gecko browsers that are not 
Firefox:  Mozilla Suite, Camino, ... [1]

as I mentioned yesterday.

The bad detection is in this line:

// Firefox
if (navigator.userAgent.indexOf(Firefox)!=-1 || 
navigator.userAgent.indexOf(Safari)!=-1)


Change Firefox to Gecko.

[1] http://www.geckoisgecko.org/

Philippe


And like sort of maybe be even nicer :-) to:
Version 9.01 Build 8552 Platform Win32 SystemWindows XP
http://www.chelseacreekstudio.com/ca/cssd/images/mar.jpg
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Re: [WSG] XHTML Marquee

2006-09-07 Thread Christian Heilmann

 I've updated the script and taken in to account the contrast factor
 as well as the accessibility issue.
 If I were to take it to the exterme, I'd dynamically generate the
 control links.
 As it is, i've chucked them into a separate div

 http://www.grafx.com.au/wip/marquee.html


That is not the extreme, it is a prerequisite.

Rule 1: JavaScript dependent elements should be generated with
JavaScript, otherwise you promise functionality that may not be
available.


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Re: [WSG] REST HTTP error codes and responses for form/parameter validation

2006-09-07 Thread Tim Lucas

On 05/09/2006, at 11:37 AM, Matthew Cruickshank wrote:


Is there any convention or standard for this?
Not that I've found. The Yahoo's web services API documentation  
says that 400: Bad request. The parameters passed to the service  
did not match as expected which seems about right for missing  
parameters.


http://developer.yahoo.com/search/errors.html


Interestingly this is the same approach as the REST client in Rails,  
which expects a 400 Bad Request for validation errors:

http://dev.rubyonrails.org/changeset/5068

REST obviously lends itself to HTML forms as API documentation  
(textareas, select boxes, etc.), so I've been providing that and  
returning HTTP status codes and XHTML. My CSS classes are exception  
names for machines to parse (though I should also include them as  
http X-something headers; and it would probably be better to send  
XML+client-side-XSLT rather than XHTML).


I guess if they were expecting a HTML response then a 200 OK with  
XHTML would be best (so you can test with forms), but if they wanted  
XML then you could return a 400 Bad Request. Do browsers render the  
response from 400 responses? I'd prefer to always be sending the same  
response code, it just feels wrong to be varying response codes  
depending on the accept header.


-- tim



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